
Bad Romance: Barefoot Witness
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Everyone wants to be lucky in love and Lintel Washington finally is. When she goes missing,
the only person who
may know what really happened is her tiny daughter, a barefoot witness.
Am I ever gonna love, gonna love, gonna love again?
Am I ever gonna love, gonna love, gonna love again?
A beloved teacher.
Dedicated. A beloved teacher, dedicated.
No matter what those children did, she gave them everything she had. Full of promise.
She was named Teacher of the Year. Lintel Washington seems to have a bright road ahead, but it's about to meet an unexpected end in a very dark place.
We had just the makings of a real horror story. One Thursday morning, a parking lot security camera captures something pretty disturbing.
A toddler running around by herself clutching a pillow.
I mean, this is a little child.
Thank you. herself clutching a pillow.
I mean, this is a little child. My name is Leslie Parms.
In 2016, I was driving for a company. I noticed a young lady, about three years old.
She was standing in the parking lot about right here. She was kind of teary-eyed and distraught.
And I actually said, where's your mom? And she just kind of looked around. And I didn't see any adults out here with her, so I immediately called 911.
I have a child. How old are you, sweetheart? What's your name? She's three years old.
She's in the parking lot standing here by herself with a pillow. No one's around.
Can't find anyone. I need an officer.
It's then that Parms notices something alarming. The little girl isn't wearing shoes and there's blood on her feet.
You hurt your foot. That's why you're bleeding.
Do I need to send medical attention that way? An ambulance? I don't think so. And I started asking her where's mommy's car and she pointed to her mom's car which her mom's car was on the other end of the parking lot closer to the fire hydrant it was a blue four-door sedan I approached the car and I peeked through the window oh my gosh there's blood on the front seat of the car okay stay on the phone with me okay it's the size of a lot of blood something was really, really, really wrong.
The woman's keys and her purse are in the car. Okay.
It looks like one of the other pillows are in the car. She was keeping a freaking car.
God, . When police arrive, the little girl begins revealing more of her story.
Mommy was bleeding. She was bleeding.
She is able to describe in detail what she's seen, even if it's only in little bits and pieces. Who was it coming from? The number one.
Officers run the plates and discover the car belongs to a woman named Lintel Washington. She's the mom of the little girl they've found.
Lintel Washington teacher at a middle school and no one heard from her. She just didn't show up to teach her class.
And I knew instantly something is wrong. She would never allow her daughter to be alone.
Never. We're not using the name or showing the face of the child to protect her privacy.
I had to take a bath and do it with my blood. Yeah, you gotta take a bath.
They're gonna get you cleaned up, okay? A blood-soaked car, an abandoned child, her mother missing. The police need answers, and they need them fast.
You know where your mommy went? No. Where? Can you point the direction she went? Lansell Washington's nickname is Puffy.
That was the name she had since her childhood.
She was loyal, dedicated, and hardworking.
Very funny, very passionate, very kind person. We didn't call ourselves friends, we called ourselves sisters.
She was a great mother, very caring, very loving, and that was her whole entire world. I called her Miss Washington.
She was my eighth grade social studies teacher. She always had a bright smile every time we walked into the classroom.
What made her a good teacher? Her heart. You know, Lintel had a loving, caring heart.
And no matter what those children did, no matter where they came from, she gave them everything she had. But according to Lintel's closest friends, she felt something was missing from her life.
She wanted love. She wanted a relationship.
She wanted family. Lintel did not have any luck with men.
I mean, probably none of us, but hers was just jaw-dropping, like crazy stuff. When she was younger, there was a short-lived marriage.
Then a promising relationship with her daughter's father, Darren Glasper, also crumbled. Was there talk of marriage and really making this permanent? Yeah, it really was.
But I also had some issues and some demons I was dealing with. When you say demons.
Yeah, I was still influenced by alcohol and drugs. It was wise that we decided to go separate ways until I got myself together.
We actually broke up when she became eight months pregnant. And as she moved into motherhood, her love life didn't seem to be getting any better.
Did you get the impression that she was looking for love, Jame? Sure. But she didn't really, you know, connect with anybody.
Then Lintel meets somebody new.
Somebody at school.
His name, Dr. Robert Marks.
He was the assistant principal at Brookstown. I'm assistant principal.
Robert Marks is the other assistant principal. Every time I see him in the hallway, he would always be like smiling and waving and saying hi.
He was a very nice, kind man. This is a guy from the north side of Baton Rouge who was successful.
He had a PhD in education. Lintel and Robert Marks begin working at the middle school at about the same time.
At what point did you know that she was interested in Robert Marks? She shows me a picture of him. And so I say, okay, he's nice looking.
And she just started beaming like she started smiling. But it seems that nobody at the school knows about the affair between the teacher and the assistant principal.
Did you have any inkling that they had a relationship? Not at all. Now, she did kind of say, I think he's so cute.
Turns out Dr. Marks is hiding more than an office romance.
The thing is, Robert Marks is married. Had a wife, beautiful wife, beautiful kids.
He wanted to take out and she asked him, she said, aren't you married? He has told Lintel Washington that he's very unhappy, that he is divorcing his wife, and that he's in love with her and wants to have a life with her. He assured her that it's a divorce.
They're separated. He did say that there was this two-story house, and the wife was upstairs and he was downstairs.
They do live together, but they live on separate floors. He would go to her house.
They would cook, um, her daughter was there. So she knew that it was one of these complicated situations, but she could only go by what he was showing her.
She calls, he answers, he's available. So he's not moving like a married man.
Was she in love? Yes, she was. I think she had her disappointments.
And so now finally she gets someone who's Dr. Robert Marks.
And he wants her. He's pursuing her.
A new love, the promise of a new family. It's everything Lintel's been hoping for.
But she has no idea what truly lies ahead. Something horrible has happened to Lintel Washington.
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Lentel Washington is still considered missing tonight. The investigation started Thursday when Washington's three-year-old daughter was found wandering around a parking lot.
That little girl got blood on her feet. Somebody heard of mama.
With her mother missing, that little girl, as you can hear on this police dash cam video, soon begins innocently revealing family secrets. My mommy's a kid.
Your mommy got a baby in her, tell me. Who learns that she's pregnant first? Did she reveal it to you? Oh, yes, she did.
I'm two months pregnant. My baby looks so beautiful in my womb.
She said, this baby is for Robert Marks. She's pregnant with Robert Marks' baby.
And I'm like, oh my goodness, what is he saying? And she tells me he's happy. In Lintel's apartment, detectives will later find sonograms tracking her pregnancy, including one announcing, I'm a girl.
She says, Dallin, that's the name. She said, oh, I love it.
Then she tells it to Robert Marks. She texts me back and she says, girl, he loves the name.
So he was excited about the name and he was excited about the pregnancy.
So she was getting her family. But then everything comes crashing down with one click of a mouse.
Robert tells Lintel that he's going on a trip for a few days. He's going to Panama City to go to a family reunion.
A family reunion like his mama, his daddy, you know, his sister. She saw a picture of Robert and his wife on a cruise.
She saw it on social media. She says, does this look like a couple that's going through a divorce? And I said, no.
She spent the whole weekend trying to get in contact with him, and he was away on his trip. And so she was getting more and more upset, angry, mad.
She was saying, I'm going to his house. Lintel gets to Robert's house and there's a huge revelation.
Remember how she believed that they lived on separate floors because they were getting a divorce? She said, girl, that boy told me he stayed in his two-story house. He lives in a damn trailer, girl.
And she says, he's gonna pay child support and I'm gonna tell his wife. She said, oh, I'm gonna tell a wife.
She was upset. By the time Robert returns from his cruise on June 6, he has got one angry Lintel Washington waiting for him, and he knows he's got a problem.
Lintel sends a blunt text message to Marks, questioning whether he's truly committed to her and to their unborn baby girl. Just keep it 100 with me.
Do you really want me, or are you quitting to run away from your responsibilities with me and our unborn daughter?" At some point he suggested they get together. She says, do you think I should meet him face to face? And I said, yes.
Say, this way you'll know if he's lying. I said, look him in his face and see if he's lying.
days later later, Lintel is missing. Lintel Washington and her daughter lived in a one-bedroom apartment very close to where Lintel's car was found.
So police want to know why Lintel would have parked there and why her daughter would have been left behind. It's that scared little girl who offers a crucial clue.
Mr. Robbie did that lunch, and Mr.
Robbie did that lunch. The police have no idea at that point who that person is until the friend and coworker, Jamisha, shows up at the scene.
I said, Mr. Robbie from the school, Mr.
Robbie? And she was shaking her head. Mr.
Robbie is the name Lintel's daughter calls Robert Marks. I said to the police officer, they were in a relationship.
I said, but he would be the first place that I would start. Investigators know that the clock is ticking, so they waste no time in talking to Robert Marks.
This is an urgent situation. They need to find Lintel Washington You know where she's at.
With precious time slipping away, what will Marks reveal?
It's been less than 24 hours since Lintel Washington went missing, and police are talking with Robert Marks, the man with whom she was having an affair.
When's the last time you saw her?
Yesterday.
They met, he tells them, in a Walmart parking lot near his home.
How long did you see her yesterday?
38.
Is she alone? 39. They were in her car? Yes.
What car were you in? I was riding a motorcycle. Marks admits to the affair.
Does your wife know about her? I think she does now. He also claims the parking lot rendezvous was completely innocent.
Who did y'all meet for yesterday? Just to tell them. Did she ever threaten to talk to your wife? Never? Never.
So that would be news to you that she had planned on talking to your wife? Yeah. He says, yes, I was with Lintel.
And then afterwards, she went her separate ways, and I went and hung out at a restaurant. Where'd you go after you saw her? She just went around a little bit.
Played by Twin Peaks. He tells police that the night before, he was watching the basketball game.
With one minute left to go in the game, the score remains... At a local bar called Twin Peaks.
She's not just missing. Maybe she's not just missing.
Just what I said, she's not just missing. We have evidence that she's hurt bad and we've got enough blood in the car.
To assume that she's dead. It seems that Robert Marks was the last adult to see Lintel.
But to know for sure, police need to find her. An active scene is unfolding as detectives search for Lintel Washington.
Using cell phone records, police determined that on
the night she went missing, Lintel may have been across the Mississippi River
in neighboring Iberville Parish. It's remote, it's rural, it's farmland, it's
sugarcane field. It was a massive search effort.
In the air, on ATVs, and on foot. Chief Criminal Deputy Ronnie Hebert takes me to that rural area where his investigators were searching for the missing mom.
You had heard there was a woman missing and a little child that was found. Right.
Did your gut instinct tell you anything?
I was hoping and praying that they would find her alive, but my gut instinct told me that she would probably be deceased.
How big is the surge?
This is a massive area. Cane fields, a lot of water.
Sheriff Brett Stacey launched a couple of boats to show us one of the first places he
and his deputies thought to look. It's a place called Whiskey Bay.
We were drawn here because of this place's history. You want to get rid of a body, this is a good place to go.
In South Louisiana, with this heat and this humidity, a body will decompose very rapidly. That makes time of finding the body, get it to the autopsy quick, and determine cause of death.
Especially in a homicide case, time is important. Authorities search and search and search.
Finally, on the sixth day, they catch a break.
Well, this is certainly off the beaten path. It is really.
As you see, all the cane they got, right? So you got the call and where had they found a body? Right up in this area, right here. That time they had some water in this ditch because to me it was a watery grave.
And there was no question in your mind she had been dumped there. Absolutely, she was a transferor dump.
It's very humid. We have a lot of flies, spring maggots, and the body can deteriorate in such a rapid pace.
Using dental records, authorities are able to confirm it is indeed Lintel, Washington. The coroner rules her death a homicide.
The cause, a single gunshot wound to the head. I remember I just dropped to the floor and then my husband caught me.
I couldn't even stand up. My main concern at that point was her daughter and keeping her away from the television because they were constantly running the pictures and the slang teacher and all of these different things on the news.
That day just, that changed my life forever. In what ways? I knew I had to do better now.
This child's going to need her father in her life. For Melissa Mason, old conversations still haunt and hurt.
She asked, well, should I meet him face to face? And I told her, yes. I said, that way you'll know if he's telling the truth.
And so...
That was hard for me because I said yes
and I should have said no.
Lintel Washington's murder is horrible enough,
but according to authorities, there's a second victim. Even after the trauma of Lintel Washington being shot in the head, the coroner believed that the child in there would have been able to be saved.
Through DNA testing, police determined that Lintel Washington was indeed carrying Robert Mark's baby. He was the father of the child and that Lintel was threatening to tell his wife so we figured we had a motive.
Was there any doubt in your mind once they found her body? Now that I understood that it was murder I knew that he had done it. But police need proof, and their key witness is only three years old.
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Listen now, wherever you get your podcasts. Friends of Lintel have remained hopeful, but tonight they gather to remember the person she was.
Authorities suspect that Lintel Washington was shot and killed by Robert Marks, and to help build their case, they turn to the only known eyewitness. They do these forensic interviews of children with people who are specifically skilled in this area to interview a child without further traumatizing them.
You have to protect her, because you don't know what's down the line for her psychologically. But understand that she's vital to your case.
What did you hear? I just... My mommy got hurt.
What did you hear with your ears? My ears! Did you say Mr. Robbie hurt mommy? Yes, ma'am.
When we found the body, we did find that she was shot in the head. So that corroborated what the little girl said.
You hear the little girl in her own voice saying, my mama's asleep by a lake. Mommy in the lake? Yeah.
That means she must have been back here. That this ditch was full of water.
Yeah.
Right.
And that she must have been here.
Yeah.
She must have been here.
But Marks insists that he has no idea what the three-year-old is talking about.
You know, her daughter's pretty intelligent.
Absolutely.
What's this? Okay, we've spoken with her daughter. Why would her daughter say you heard her? Heard me.
Until? Heard her feelings. No, no.
Physically harmed her. Why would she say that? Investigators are reluctant to build their entire case on statements from a three-year-old.
But it turns out there's another witness, a silent witness that was with Lintel and Marks the entire time. So Robert Marks, originally when he's questioned by detectives, he says, yes, I was with Lintel.
When's the last time you saw her? I saw her. Yesterday.
About a while. He said, afterwards, she went her separate ways, and I went and hung out with the guys at a restaurant.
That's not what happened according to cell phone records. My name is Cy Ray.
My role in investigations like this as a subject matter expert in geolocation is to analyze data that is captured by the cell phone carriers. Investigators pull those cell phone records for both Marks and Lintel from the hours before and after she went missing.
We have a system that we can map those and visualize that. That's what we're looking at here.
And when we look at this data, we can actually see travel patterns, how people are driving around town. Red icons are Lintel's device.
Blue icons are Robert's device. Where I'm starting here is we're looking at when both of them were at home before Lintel leaves her house that night.
We know that Robert Marks texted Lintel Washington. He said he wanted to meet up.
She drove from her house up to Baker. The data confirms at least part of Robert Marks statement to police.
He and Lintel did meet up near the Baker Walmart at a little after 8 o'clock the night Lintel disappeared. She comes out there in her car with her baby in the back seat.
She meets Robert Marks. He pulls up on a motorcycle.
He gets into the car. If you remember, red icons are Lintel's device.
Blue icons are Robert's device. But you can see here that when red and blue are overlaid directly on top of each other, we're getting this purple color.
This is just a really good indication that these two devices are traveling together. The phone ends up in the north end of the parish.
Veterans Police Department and Sheriff's Office has a pistol range out in that area. And it's really kind of a secluded area.
Not a lot of reason for the phone to go there.
Our evidence shows that she was killed there.
It would not have surprised the neighbors because it's a shooting range.
Investigators believe Marks might have chosen a place where nobody would be suspicious of gunshots.
And after staying there for about 10 minutes, records show the phones were on the move again. He takes the Huey P.
Long, Old Mississippi River Bridge, and he takes Highway 190 and ends up going to Rhema. Lintel's daughter is in the backseat of the car while all of this is going on.
We're kind of out in the middle of nowhere now off of I-10, and both devices are going to stop together for a period of about 30 minutes. And there's really nothing out there to stop at.
Ultimately, Lintel will be found in this area. The records then show Marks and Lintel's phones traveling east on I-10, right back into Baton Rouge.
Then her phone goes offline. The assumption then was that her phone was maybe tossed into the lake at that point.
According to the police's theory, Marks has managed to hide Lintel's body and gotten rid of her phone. Now he's got a deal with her blood-soaked car and her three-year-old daughter, so he heads back towards Lintel's home.
That car was parked over off of Sherwood Forest. And that morning, this baby, this three-year-old child, had gotten out of the car.
It's important to remember that this is an ongoing affair. They are communicating constantly.
And what's interesting about this is she goes missing, and guess who stops calling her phone? And that's because he knows Lintel washington is in a sugarcane field she's dead and she's not going to answer the phone
marx isn't contacting lintel but it doesn't mean he's finished making calls for the night
he calls another lady friend he's dating another woman that right. He's got girlfriend number two.
Once police confirm that that is indeed Lintel Washington,
who they found dead in a ditch,
police then charge Robert Marks with her murder.
They charge him with feticide and several other charges.
Thank you. Police then charge Robert Marks with her murder, they charge him with feticide, and several other charges.
Does it upset you that she's dead? Anything you want to say to your family? Within a couple of days of Robert Marks being arrested, he had two lawyers. They of course have to go to work.
Any, I would challenge that it's been contaminated. The body lay in the field for many, many days.
But police say they've got another witness. Cell phone records show that Robert Marks returns to Baker to get his motorcycle around 11 o'clock on the night Lintel is murdered.
But if he leaves the three-year-old and Lintel's Toyota in this parking lot,
who gets him all the way back to his motorcycle?
I was just watching the news and they were saying about,
they show him arrested and they show the lady and stuff like that.
It just happened Wednesday night.
And I'm like, oh my God, Wednesday night? I was with him. So another woman emerges in this story.
Trameka Jackson. Trameka is also having an affair with Robert.
Lintel doesn't know about her. Robert's wife doesn't know about her.
He actually told her he was a medical doctor. What's going on in your mind that you're creating all of these false images of yourself? What are you doing? You know, you're lying to women.
You're making them think it's just them. You're getting them to trust you.
I'm trying to cooperate with my team. I don't know.
I want to give you whatever information.
She's scared.
She doesn't want to be involved in this.
She comes in voluntarily without an attorney.
Police know that Trameka and Robert Marks
are in close contact, texting and calling back and forth
the night Lintel is murdered.
It was like 10.
He called me, and then he was like, well, would you come get me?
It's going to be a little bit better. and calling back and forth the night Lintel is murdered.
It was like 10.
He called me, and then he was like,
well, would you come get me?
It's gonna be a little later, but I'm gonna call you.
I just didn't, I mean, they put nothing together.
Trameka is able to place Robert at the scene where the car was abandoned with Lintel's little girl.
It had to be 11 o'clock. He you know what your car is at? She picked him up on that street that leads into the apartment complex to the parking lot where the little girl was left.
So we go out to a local bank and pull video. Trameka has a Dodge with very specific lights.
Think of it as a bar of lights. And it's not the greatest of video, but you can clearly see in the background his second girlfriend comes to pick him up.
Trameka says after she picked up Robert, she drove him back to Baker so he could get his motorcycle.
Police are convinced that Trameka was simply doing what Robert asked her to do, and that she was in the dark about both Lintel's murder and the abandonment of her daughter.
She was very forthcoming as far as her peace in taking him away from the scene.
No indication that she knew anything about what had gone on. I think it's safe to say that a lot of people in the community were pretty pleased that he was behind bars, considering what he was charged with.
So it was really surprising when bail was set and he actually was able to leave jail. Bail was over $800,000.
This man just murdered a pregnant woman with his child in her belly and kidnapped my child to go dump their body. And y'all telling me he's not a danger or flight risk? I actually had the opportunity to interview Robert.
He was leaving the East Baton Rouge Parish Courthouse and he came out and I said, Robert, is there anything you'd like to say? First, I want to express sympathy to the family of the victim. I'll reassure you that I had nothing to do with this.
He looked me in the eye and said I had nothing to do with it. Mark's lawyers also insist their client is not a murderer.
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It's been nearly six years since Lintel Washington was killed. And after many delays, the stage is finally set for a trial.
The opening statements began today in the trial of a former assistant principal. He's on trial for her murder in Iberville Parish five years ago.
The trial of Robert Marks began with high emotion. In his colorful opening statements, District Attorney Tony Clayton asks the Louisiana jury to serve up what he calls gumbo justice.
In Louisiana we love gumbo. I told the jury that I'm going to make a gumbo.
I'm going to pull up his Google records. I'm going to take his phone records.
I'm going to take his computer, and I'm going to put all that in the pot and cook it up. Let's serve it to him cold cold like that ice cold water that runs through his vein the defense argues that there's no murder weapon no dna and no eyewitness tying marks to the crime they don't have a case of course the prosecution maintains they do have an eyewitness, Lintel's daughter.
Now at nine years old she takes the stand to confirm the statements she made to police back in 2016. What did you hear? I did.
When mommy got hurt. What did you hear with your ears? My ears! Did you say Mr.
Robbie hurt mommy? Yes ma'am. Our purpose of putting the child on the stand today was to, one, to show that the child was available, subject to cross-examination, and two, that that was the child that gave the statement when she was three years old.
It is the strongest moment in the trial and I think that they handled it so well. The defense team argues that testimony from a three-year-old isn't exactly reliable and that some of her statements were inaccurate.
Based on their child witness who told them to go to a water body, the body was recovered on land. So they've assisted us by discrediting their own three-year-old child witness.
It may have been in the context of a mind of a three-year-old, but everything she said was accurate and backed up by the physical evidence. Clayton uses Robert Marks' own words against him.
Remember, his alibi was that he was at a bar. Where'd you go after your assault murder? He was a run-around a little bit.
There was about Twin Peaks. Went to Twin Peaks and pulled up the cameras on that night.
He never showed up to Twin Peaks. Oddly, the defense doesn't offer up a reason why we don't see marks on those Twin Peaks videos.
Ultimately, the prosecution lays out what it claims is the motive for the whole thing. Until he was pregnant by Robert Marks and they were going through some problems.
At some point, he implied an abortion. He didn't say it directly, but the comment made her upset.
Good morning. Happy Valentine's Day.
I love you. Happy Valentine to you too.
You hurt my feelings yesterday. You really did.
He fixes it by saying, no, I was just saying that I support whatever it is that you want to do. That's what I meant.
Clearly this is a child that he does not want. May 24th is a really important date because that's the day that Lintel goes to the doctor, gets a sonogram, and it's revealed that they are having a little girl.
Guess what Marxist internet searches were on that day? Rather than searching for things like, I don't know, baby bassinets online. He starts looking for guns online.
He starts researching bizarre stories involving pregnant women
who have gone missing or were murdered.
What happens if you inject somebody with Clorox?
What happens if you inject somebody with petrol?
You see this thought process that he's going through.
He has a life that he does not want to blow up. The defense doesn't address this point at all, doesn't call witnesses, and doesn't offer a closing statement.
This is a circumstantial case, and in order for him to be found guilty of a circumstantial case, the state must exclude every reasonable hypothesis of innocence. They knock on the door and they say, we have a verdict.
We the people, the state of Louisiana, find you Robert Marks. And when she said that, he stood up and started putting his hands behind his back.
So he knew before the clerk said guilty, he knew what the verdict was. In the end, it takes jurors only 30 minutes to find Robert Marks guilty on all charges, including murder and feticide.
And I remember just yelling, he got it right. They got it right.
After five and a half years, finally, we got all justice served today. I thought we had raised enough reasonable doubt that the result would have been different.
After the verdict, Marks' wife, Kayla, divorces him, telling 2020 she was shocked to learn of his multiple affairs. Robert Marks was sentenced to life in prison, and he is actually in one of the worst prisons in this country.
And there are things worse than the death penalty. In Louisiana, they call it Angola.
If Lintel was still here today, I believe that she would have achieved her goal of becoming an administrator. And I think she would have had a house, very smart daughters, because education was so important for her.
And she would be a great mom. Her family keeps Lintel alive in the memory of a little girl who helped bring her mother's killer to justice.
I hope that somewhere inside of her, that strong little girl realizes that she stood up for her mom. Sometimes she says, I miss mommy.
I wish mommy was here. I say, I do too.
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