The Hand in the Window: 'Follow the Flies'

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Speaker 2 Detective Brian Evans has known Detective Kim Major a long time.

Speaker 3 I started actually the same day as Detective Major did. It was actually on my birthday, September 29th,

Speaker 3 1997 is the day we started.

Speaker 2 They had been rookies together on the Ashland Police Force, partnered up on a lot of cases. Over time, they formed a close bond, the type where they could finish each other's sentences.

Speaker 2 They each had their specialties. Evans was a narcotics detective.
And Major?

Speaker 3 She's a very good interviewer. I think most of that comes from her drive.
to help. She can be very relatable to the suspects and they find it very easy to talk with her.

Speaker 2 Like Major, Evans had grown up in the area. He went to high school in Ashland.
So when Stacey Stanley and Elizabeth Griffith disappeared in quick succession, it seemed strange.

Speaker 3 I'd say it's very unusual to have two adult females missing for the city of Ashland. I would say that that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 After Jane Doe escaped her kidnapper, Detective Evans was one of the first officers on the scene at that yellow house on Culvert Court. His role was to secure the crime scene.

Speaker 2 That meant walk through the house, take pictures, don't disturb any evidence, and finally, handle the paperwork needed for police to do a more detailed search.

Speaker 3 Captain Lay has me in charge of the search warrant. Being a narcotics guy, I write the most house search warrants for drug houses, so that became my focus.

Speaker 2 Evans was looking for anything related to Sean Grate's kidnapping and assault on Jane Doe, but with two other women missing, he was on high alert as he moved through the house, room by room.

Speaker 2 If there were more secrets to be found, Brian Evans would be there to find them.

Speaker 2 From 2020 and ABC Audio, this is The Hand in the Window.

Speaker 2 Episode 4.

Speaker 2 Follow the Flies

Speaker 2 While the crime scene buzzed with activity, in the interview room at the police department, it was quiet. Sean Grate sat shirtless at a small table, leaning back in his chair.

Speaker 2 Detective Kim Major sat to his right, about a foot away, leaning forward.

Speaker 2 Major had gotten Sean Gray to admit to his brutal attacks on Jane Doe.

Speaker 2 Now she pushed him carefully about the other missing women, Stacy Stanley and Elizabeth Griffith. She started with Elizabeth, the 29-year-old who had last been seen a month before.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 4 do you know where Elizabeth is right now?

Speaker 4 I don't care what you told anybody else. I care what you tell me.

Speaker 4 Hey.

Speaker 3 I feel you already know I can't answer your question very no.

Speaker 2 Great kept telling Major that he felt she already knew where Elizabeth was. Detective Major wasn't sure what that meant.

Speaker 2 She tried a new question.

Speaker 2 Did Elizabeth Griffith ask Great to hurt her or kill her?

Speaker 2 No, she hasn't asked me to do nothing.

Speaker 2 She's mentioning it

Speaker 2 about

Speaker 2 not wanting to be alive before

Speaker 2 that one time.

Speaker 2 Like within five minutes, I know her.

Speaker 2 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2 According to Great, Elizabeth had expressed suicidal tendencies. He told Major Elizabeth said that, quote, within five minutes of knowing her.

Speaker 4 Well, when I tell you I don't think she's alive, it's because that's what I think.

Speaker 4 I don't know what else to say. I don't know where she is.

Speaker 5 I would like for you to take me there.

Speaker 5 If you're willing to do it, we'll go load up and go there.

Speaker 5 Will you take me there?

Speaker 5 I can take you to a place in Mansfield.

Speaker 2 Take you to a place in in Mansfield, Great said.

Speaker 2 A city twice the size of Ashland in a neighboring county about 20 minutes away.

Speaker 2 His demeanor was suddenly different.

Speaker 2 He looked uncomfortable, and his voice had dropped to almost a whisper.

Speaker 4 Where she is,

Speaker 4 where are you going to take me to Mansfield?

Speaker 4 Where there's another girl?

Speaker 4 Where there is a girl.

Speaker 4 But I'm not.

Speaker 2 Great seemed to be talking about a different woman, someone besides Elizabeth Griffith. Major wanted to know if this woman, whoever she was,

Speaker 2 was still alive.

Speaker 4 What happened to her?

Speaker 4 Hey, are you okay?

Speaker 2 What happened?

Speaker 6 She's gone?

Speaker 6 She's been gone.

Speaker 2 She's been gone.

Speaker 2 Great's voice was breaking. He began to cry.
The circling questions about Elizabeth Griffith had broken through, but not in the way Major... was expecting.

Speaker 5 He's not even telling me about what happened in my own county. He's not telling me about our missing ladies.
So you don't know? Is he just making this up?

Speaker 4 Has anybody, I mean, has she been buried or did you just leave her somewhere?

Speaker 4 You don't know?

Speaker 4 I know I loved her.

Speaker 2 I loved her,

Speaker 2 he said.

Speaker 4 Is she in a house?

Speaker 4 What is she in?

Speaker 4 Sean, what is she in?

Speaker 4 She's in the woods?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 How long has she been there?

Speaker 4 How long?

Speaker 6 June. June?

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 4 What's her name?

Speaker 7 Candace. Candace? Cunningham.

Speaker 4 Cunningham?

Speaker 3 This comes out of the blue, right?

Speaker 5 This came out of the blue.

Speaker 2 A new name, a new county, a new possible victim of Sean Great.

Speaker 2 Candace Cunningham.

Speaker 2 Great described how he met Candace in Mansfield, in a house house where he'd rented a room the previous winter.

Speaker 5 Candace had not been reported missing, and Candace had dated Sean Grate.

Speaker 2 Detective Major would later learn that Candace was 29 years old. She was just 4'9, with dark hair and high cheekbones.

Speaker 2 Candace's family later told a local newspaper that she had struggled with addiction and was in and out of touch with her family.

Speaker 2 Great said that he and Candace had been seeing each other for around seven months when they began squatting together in a white house on the road leading out of Mansfield.

Speaker 2 But Great claimed the relationship wasn't going well.

Speaker 2 Great said they argued a lot. He told Major that one morning, Candace had woken him up by asking him to roll her a cigarette.

Speaker 2 3 o'clock in the morning, and I got hit in the face with a bag of tobacco.

Speaker 2 I just hadn't.

Speaker 2 Gray told Major that they started physically fighting and that he strangled her to death.

Speaker 2 If this story was true, it was a confession of cold-blooded murder.

Speaker 2 Not wanting to lose momentum, Major asked Gray if he'd show her the spot in the woods behind the house where he'd left Candace Cunningham's body.

Speaker 2 It will be easy to find, he said.

Speaker 2 Just follow the flies.

Speaker 4 So we're going to go. We're going to go find Candace, right?

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 5 who else are we going to go find?

Speaker 5 I guess I'm ready to go ahead and get my

Speaker 5 lethal injection.

Speaker 5 But I'll tell you about that first.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 He says, how many before I am

Speaker 5 lethally injected?

Speaker 5 So he's talking about how many people, how many victims before I get the death penalty is what he's asking. And I'm saying, well, let's not worry about that right now.
Let's just get the facts.

Speaker 5 Let's just talk.

Speaker 2 Major sense that there might be more that Grade was on the verge of sharing.

Speaker 5 I do feel if you do something and it's in there,

Speaker 5 it needs to come out.

Speaker 5 It's like a sore that is festered inside that you have to rip a scab off to clean it. It's in there and it wants to come out.
So

Speaker 5 I'll be the conduit.

Speaker 4 Who else?

Speaker 4 Where I came from.

Speaker 4 Yeah?

Speaker 4 There's somebody in there?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Great wasn't making eye contact. When he said there was someone in the house at Culvert Court, he started squirming in his chair.

Speaker 4 Who is it? Is it Elizabeth? Where is she in there?

Speaker 4 In the closet. In the closet?

Speaker 4 Which closet?

Speaker 4 Upstairs. Upstairs.

Speaker 5 When he said that, I didn't know if she was alive or not. I just knew she was in a closet.

Speaker 2 Major wanted to confirm whether Elizabeth Griffith was hidden in the house alive or dead.

Speaker 2 She returned to Great's earlier allegations about Elizabeth being possibly suicidal.

Speaker 4 So with Elizabeth,

Speaker 4 you wanted to free her. How did you do that same way with Candace or another way?

Speaker 4 Same way?

Speaker 2 The same way.

Speaker 2 Strangulation.

Speaker 2 Detective Major told Grade she'd bring him something to eat and drink, making excuses to step out of the interview room.

Speaker 2 She was actually going to alert her colleagues at that house on Culvert Court to tell them they should be looking for a body.

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Speaker 2 In a few short minutes, Sean Great had confessed to not one, but two murders. The case was rapidly evolving into one of the biggest that Ashland's police department had ever seen.

Speaker 2 By now, Ohio's Bureau of Criminal Investigation, or BCI, had been called in to help. With every hour that passed, more BCI trucks pulled up to the house on Culvert Court.

Speaker 2 Brian Evans was in the process of photographing every room in the house when

Speaker 3 I began to receive communication via phone calls and text messages from the interview that's taking place with Detective Major and now that we know Mr. Great.

Speaker 2 The first call that Brian Evans got was about Candace Cunningham, that Great had admitted to killing her in a house in Richland County.

Speaker 2 Five minutes went by when Evans' phone rang again.

Speaker 3 And I get another communication that our missing female Elizabeth is deceased and she's upstairs in a closet.

Speaker 2 Detective Evans was surprised. He had just walked through every room in the Culvert Courthouse, and he didn't remember seeing any closets in the upstairs rooms.
He went to look again.

Speaker 2 He climbed the stairs and entered a small bedroom on the second floor. Inside was a green sofa bed with rags tied to the frame.
They looked like restraints.

Speaker 3 Once you got upstairs, the rooms were in semi-disarray. I mean, there was a bedroom, and in that bedroom, there was, you couldn't see the closet door at all.

Speaker 2 On one wall, clothing was everywhere, hanging from nails and stacked in piles on the floor. As Evans looked closer, he realized there was a door hidden behind all the mess.

Speaker 2 It was sealed shut with duct tape.

Speaker 3 As we started pulling away the clothes in that upstairs closet area, you could see the fly activity. A lot of the flies were dead at that point, meaning that they've been there a while.

Speaker 3 Then you could start to get the odor of a decaying body.

Speaker 2 Evans and his fellow investigators pulled the clothes away from the closet doorway. A BCI agent peeled back the tape and opened the door.

Speaker 2 Inside, they found more mess, another pile of clothing and bedding.

Speaker 2 The agents removed each layer of the pile, one by one, until they made a chilling discovery.

Speaker 2 A woman's dead body.

Speaker 3 She was down basically on her stomach chest area with her hands tied behind her back and her legs tied up and then hogtied to her hands and her head and face was facing away from us to the back of the wall.

Speaker 2 Because of the tight space and the decomposition of the body, Evans couldn't tell immediately if it was Elizabeth. The body had clearly been in the closet for a while.

Speaker 2 It was there during the days that Jane Doe was trapped downstairs.

Speaker 4 All right, Sean, I've been on the hunt for snacks. You got chips.
Here's what I got so far.

Speaker 2 Detective Kim Major had left the interview room to make sure her colleagues were briefed on Sean Gray's confessions. She returned, ready to ask Great for more details about Elizabeth's death.

Speaker 2 Major asked if Gray had sexually assaulted Elizabeth Griffith before her murder. Great said no.

Speaker 2 Major asked how Elizabeth had ended up at Great's home.

Speaker 2 spent the day together at her apartment, playing card games. That night, Elizabeth had gone to Great's home.
They hadn't been there long, Great said,

Speaker 2 when he attacked her. He strangled her, then tied her up in the closet.

Speaker 2 In the days that followed, he would periodically kill the flies that buzzed around the house. Major noticed that Great was very interested in flies, the life cycle from egg to maggot to adult.

Speaker 2 He also seemed drawn to specific parts of death and the decomposition of bodies.

Speaker 5 There are times during the interview if he would talk about what a woman's face does when you're killing her or

Speaker 5 what her body does, how a body decomposes the

Speaker 5 larva or following the scent to find the body or watching their bodies decompose. You know, there's lots of things where you could tell he's interested in this.

Speaker 2 Major continued to press him.

Speaker 4 Are there any other girls in the house right now?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 One down in the basement. Down in the basement?

Speaker 2 Another body.

Speaker 2 This time in the basement of the yellow house.

Speaker 4 What's her name?

Speaker 4 Stacy.

Speaker 2 Stacy.

Speaker 2 Great described her as a dark-haired woman in her 40s. A nice lady, he said.
He'd driven her car and still had her keys.

Speaker 2 All the details matched the Stacy Stanley case. the 43-year-old mother and grandmother who had gone missing from a gas station the previous week.

Speaker 2 Her sons had been all over town putting up flyers with Stacy's picture on them, asking the public for any information about where she might be.

Speaker 2 Great told Major that he'd seen Stacy standing at the gas station in the rain, waiting with a flat tire. He helped her, and Gray said, he asked if Stacy would like to hang out sometime.

Speaker 2 Gray told Major that Stacy had agreed, and they'd gone back to his house. According to Great, they'd sat together talking.
But then he said, things turned sour.

Speaker 4 Did you have sex with her?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Great raped Stacy. Investigators would later find out that he filmed the attack on his phone.
When Stacy fought fought back, Great

Speaker 2 strangled her.

Speaker 2 She wanted to play the innocent thing.

Speaker 2 I just kind of just snapped on her.

Speaker 2 Great shifted the blame onto Stacey.

Speaker 2 She wanted to play the innocent thing, he said.

Speaker 2 So I just snapped.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 So what did you put her in in the basement?

Speaker 4 Put her on the floor?

Speaker 4 Where on the floor in the basement?

Speaker 4 I need all that stuff.

Speaker 4 Garbage.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 2 Great said that Stacy's body was under the garbage in the basement.

Speaker 2 Soon, Brian Evans got another call from the station.

Speaker 3 I'd say about within a half hour after finding Elizabeth upstairs, I received more information that Stacey should be in the basement under a bunch of trash bags.

Speaker 2 Evans and a couple of other officers went down to take a look. Downstairs, there was a large pile of bags.
It looked like Great had been using the basement to store all of his trash since he moved in.

Speaker 3 And before we even moved any trash bags, there was, I believe, a checkbook. There were some items that had Stacey Stanley's name on it.

Speaker 2 The officers also found a pink mace container on a keychain. Slowly and methodically, they photographed and removed bag after bag.

Speaker 2 As they cleared one of the last areas, they saw something

Speaker 7 startling.

Speaker 2 It was a hand. sticking out from under a blanket.
It had a small tattoo on it and rings on the fingers. The rest of the body was hidden under the bags.

Speaker 5 It's bad enough what he did, but for some reason,

Speaker 5 thinking that he put her under trash

Speaker 5 makes it worse.

Speaker 2 In a town as small as Ashland, One murder would be shocking. Now, police were dealing with

Speaker 2 In a place where everybody knows everybody, it hit hard.

Speaker 2 Have you ever seen anything like this in all your years of police work?

Speaker 3 No, I've been on other homicides and other tragic cases, but not to this magnitude now.

Speaker 2 By the early afternoon, a crowd had gathered outside the house on Culvert Court. Detective Evans recognized members of Stacey Stanley's family.

Speaker 15 The day that they they were found, I think we spent the majority of the day sitting in the parking lot.

Speaker 2 Stacy Stanley's son, Curtis, waited along with a growing number of journalists and Ashland residents.

Speaker 15 Hundreds and hundreds of people sitting in there, and a bunch of news channels, and everybody else. And you could see them bringing things out, and they seen them bring the bodies out.

Speaker 15 And they had all those tents, and they, and that was it. They didn't tell us.

Speaker 2 Detective Evans couldn't reveal everything he knew just yet.

Speaker 2 The body in the basement was too decomposed to be recognizable, but the evidence that police had collected suggested that it was Stacy Stanley. Evans was close to one of Stacy's family members.

Speaker 2 He reached out to her.

Speaker 3 I told the family member I can't release any information, but I'd like to have you answer a few questions about some property of Stacy's, and she said that she would.

Speaker 2 Evans shared a picture of the pink mace keychain and a ring that had been found on the body. Stacy's relative confirmed that Stacy owned those items.

Speaker 3 That was hard, yes.

Speaker 2 Evans couldn't confirm the reason why he was asking these questions, but he knew what it looked like. Now the police were almost sure it was Stacy.

Speaker 2 The only thing left was for the family to officially confirm it. The Stanley family would have to wait for hours until late that night before they were called to a meeting at the police station.

Speaker 15 Then I remember that night we sat in that room. There's probably about 15 or 20 of us.
They pulled out a couple pictures and one of them was her hand. with a tattoo she had on her hand right there.

Speaker 15 They're like, is that, do you guys recognize that? So I went up there and I looked and said, yeah, that's my mom's picture. And that's what

Speaker 3 they told us it was my mom.

Speaker 15 Yeah, that was my mom.

Speaker 2 By the afternoon of September 13th, Detective Kim Major was finishing up her interview with Great.

Speaker 2 She had asked him point blank if there were any other missing women in the area that he had information about.

Speaker 2 Great said no.

Speaker 2 Major pushed him. Are you 100% on that? she asked.

Speaker 2 Yes, Great insisted. But Major wasn't finished with Great yet.
In a few short hours, Great had confessed to killing three women and directed the police to two of his victims' bodies.

Speaker 2 But there was still one body left to find

Speaker 2 Candace Cunningham's.

Speaker 2 It had been a long day, but Major knew that Great's openness might not last forever. She wanted him to show her where he had placed Candace's remains in the woods.

Speaker 2 When I met with Major in Ashland, I asked her to show me.

Speaker 2 This is the route that we traveled to go to the home where he

Speaker 5 murdered Candace Cunningham. This is the route we took.
So

Speaker 5 Lieutenant Scott Smart was driving.

Speaker 2 Major took me to an empty lot on the edge of Mansfield, next to a busy road. The house where Great and Candace had stayed is gone now, cleared away years ago.

Speaker 2 But you can still walk straight into the woods just beyond where the house once sat. Major described what Sean Gray said he did the day he turned on Candace Cunningham.

Speaker 5 After murdering her, he wrapped her body in a blanket, took her clothes off off of her, took her into a ravine, he took her back there and left her out in the elements under a bush.

Speaker 5 Candace had been described as being so

Speaker 5 bubbly and laughing all the time and

Speaker 5 full of life. And the smallest things make her so happy.
And he took every bit of that away.

Speaker 2 great showed detective major and the other officers where candace's body lay it was next to a creek major knew that if great had not shown them they may never have found the body

Speaker 3 what was it like to finally find this woman and give it some closure

Speaker 5 I felt this sense of urgency, but there was really nothing to run to. Like, I wanted to go down to the ravine and rescue her, but she's gone.

Speaker 2 The feeling of looking down at Candace Cunningham's remains at the bottom of the creek has stayed with Detective Major.

Speaker 2 The lack of dignity in her death, in Great's descriptions of her, the lack of remorse that Great

Speaker 2 showed.

Speaker 5 Sometimes only after

Speaker 5 you have time to think about it, do you actually realize how absolutely senseless something can be. Absolutely senseless.

Speaker 5 She wasn't killed because

Speaker 5 they were arguing and she wanted him to roll a cigarette. She was killed because he has a craving, that he has a hunger, and all it takes is you're making a mistake and you're gone.
You're gone.

Speaker 2 Detective Major Ashland County Raised and Proud realized that in the course of one day, Great's confessions had given her town a horrific claim to fame. It was now the home of a serial killer.

Speaker 2 Now she and the town would have to try to understand

Speaker 2 where did that hunger to kill come from and

Speaker 7 did it end

Speaker 6 he started out absolutely charming wonderful

Speaker 6 and then little by little he just turned more evil

Speaker 2 The Hand in the Window is a production of ABC Audio and 2020, hosted by me, John Quinones. Produced by Madeline Wood, Camille Peterson, Kiara Powell, edited by Gianna Palmer.

Speaker 2 Our supervising producer is Susie Liu. Music and mixing by Evan Biola.

Speaker 2 Special thanks to Katie Dendos, Janice Johnston, Michelle Margulis, Caitlin Schiffer, Rachel Walker, Annalisa Linder, Joseph Diaz, Jonathan Balfaser, Gail Deutsch, Gary Wynn, Stephanie McBee, Natalie Cardenas, and Samantha Wanderer.

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