Wild Crime: Because They're Mine | S4 Ep. 3

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Speaker 9 Hi, it's Deborah Roberts, co-anchor of 2020.

Speaker 3 You're about to hear the third installment of our four-part series, Wild Crime: 11 Skulls.

Speaker 9 Here is episode 3: Because they're mine.

Speaker 10 Israel Keys had confessed to Samantha Koenig.

Speaker 10 He knew that there were going to be consequences

Speaker 2 and he made it pretty clear to us that

Speaker 10 he was willing to talk about more.

Speaker 10 He'd identified that there was a couple in Vermont that something similar had happened to.

Speaker 11 We were shocked.

Speaker 12 I think the initial reaction was a shock that it's a couple, that it's not a single person, but that it's a couple.

Speaker 10 We immediately start googling and trying to figure out who this couple could be, and we very quickly identify the couriers.

Speaker 10 But he's had some demands.

Speaker 15 As soon as I, you know, started talking to you, I knew I was never getting out.

Speaker 15 I'm not Bubba from the sticks who sat in one town for all my life. I've been lots of places, I've done lots of things, and I'd rather go out while I still have some good memories.

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Speaker 10 Disreel Keys had indicated how he wanted the death penalty.

Speaker 10 He wanted it quickly.

Speaker 10 He would be willing to talk with us as long as we were clear on what his goal was and we could help facilitate that.

Speaker 21 My name is Bob Drew.

Speaker 21 In 2011, I was assigned to the Behavioral Analysis Unit.

Speaker 13 Our goal is to provide behavioral insight into unusual or repetitive crimes.

Speaker 22 We look at the offense and try to determine personality traits and characteristics of the offender.

Speaker 15 I don't really consider myself all that different or all that special from hundreds of thousands of other people.

Speaker 15 All you have to do is type in a word search on

Speaker 15 any given porn site and there's all kinds of people who have fantasies about rape and bondage, and

Speaker 15 the kinds of things that I take to another level.

Speaker 22 Israel Keys has sadistic sexual fantasies that involve rape and murder that are very ingrained in him.

Speaker 12 Israel Keys told us that if he told us the things that he did, there was no jury in the United States that would not convict him to death. That every jury in the U.S.
would give him a death penalty.

Speaker 5 Police are searching for a couple from Essex and they're calling their disappearance suspicious.

Speaker 16 Bill and Lorraine Courier.

Speaker 15 I walked around the neighborhood.

Speaker 15 After I found that house and decided that it was probably an older couple just because of the way they had their backyard set up, they had like a swimming pool and a deck and a barbecue.

Speaker 15 It just looked like a, you know, like older couple that didn't have kids. So I knew there was probably only one room in the house that was being used as the bedroom.

Speaker 26 He was looking for the circumstances that would line up well for him to take someone.

Speaker 15 I cut the phone lines because usually if there's an alarm system,

Speaker 15 it'll trigger the alarm.

Speaker 27 The neighbor next door, he was still up, he kept coming out and smoking.

Speaker 27 I held off for quite a while before I actually broke into the garage.

Speaker 15 I was just like a blitz attack. I was probably in the bedroom within five or six seconds.

Speaker 15 I had them roll over on their stomachs and told them to keep their faces down on the pillow and not look at anything.

Speaker 15 And after they had done that, I restrained their wrist.

Speaker 28 So you don't have to tell them, but they know they're being robbed.

Speaker 27 That's best what they say when they're being robbed. Well, they kept trying to ask me.

Speaker 15 I didn't tell them what was happening.

Speaker 15 Anytime I was in the room, there were never any lights on.

Speaker 5 Just your headlamp.

Speaker 6 Right.

Speaker 22 It's a way to control the victims because you're blinding them.

Speaker 15 They were wondering what was going on. I just told them it was a kidnap for ransom setup and that there were other people involved in it.

Speaker 15 I think they thought it was a case of mistaken identity or something. I was just bullshitting him.

Speaker 22 He knows what's coming.

Speaker 29 He has a plan to kill them.

Speaker 22 He went in with this plan to kill them.

Speaker 22 Part of fooling them and making them think that there's hope feeds his sadistic nature and his sadistic fantasies as well.

Speaker 15 Once I had him in the car, I had her in the front seat. Her hands were behind her back.
I had cable ties on her. I think I had cable ties on her feet too.

Speaker 31 So Deke was he in the back?

Speaker 15 Yeah, he was in the back on a passenger side.

Speaker 21 He's driving around with the couriers, even if it's just for a couple of miles.

Speaker 21 There aren't a lot of people around, but It's a hugely risky thing to do because there's a chance one of them could escape. He's not experiencing fear.
Psychopaths don't fear what

Speaker 21 most people fear. They don't have emotional responses that are even on a continuum of what other people experience.

Speaker 24 You drove straight from their house to the house that you'd already picked out, or did you have to find that?

Speaker 27 No, yeah, we drove straight there.

Speaker 33 I already knew where it was.

Speaker 10 He described Bill is still restrained, taking Bill down to the basement

Speaker 10 and securing him down there.

Speaker 15 Cable tied his hands down to the stool so he couldn't stand up and then had the stool backed up against the wall.

Speaker 15 And

Speaker 15 well, I mean it must have taken me longer than I thought because I came out of the basement

Speaker 15 and she had got out of the car.

Speaker 15 She had somehow broke the cable ties on her hands and on her feet and got out of the car.

Speaker 2 He grabs Lorraine, drags her back to the farmhouse, takes her to a bedroom in the farmhouse.

Speaker 10 Keys had been in the farmhouse previously, kind of preparing it. There were some mattresses and things in the bedroom where he took her.

Speaker 15 She finally shut up a little bit, and

Speaker 15 I heard something downstairs. And that's when I started having problems with the guy.

Speaker 15 He went down there, and he hit the stool. He was kind of a big guy, he was like overweight, and the stool would just collapse.

Speaker 15 The cable ties that I had on his wrist, behind his back, they broke and I don't know, just messed my whole plan up.

Speaker 24 At that point he was still like trying to talk me out of it.

Speaker 13 He's like, just let us go.

Speaker 15 We haven't really seen you. You can still walk away.

Speaker 15 And I just kind of laughed at him.

Speaker 30 I was like, I don't even know

Speaker 13 how much plan I put into

Speaker 30 just walk away.

Speaker 15 That was part of the whole plan for taking a couple. You know, I had this idea in my head of what was going to happen.

Speaker 10 He would not openly talk about if there was a sexual component to the male victims that he killed.

Speaker 2 But the homicides were absolutely sexually motivated.

Speaker 10 That was a very large component of the homicide.

Speaker 15 My plan was to take him into the basement, tie him up separate, and then take her upstairs.

Speaker 15 There were these two queen-size mattresses in the upstairs corner bedroom, and that's where I planned to take her.

Speaker 13 And then him,

Speaker 15 she was annoying me that I was having to deal with him. And I just came to the realization that you know he wasn't gonna stop fighting.

Speaker 13 There was a shovel in the basement, and I hit him with that a couple times.

Speaker 13 And then I was all hammed up and grabbed the 1022.

Speaker 13 There was a cop car right across the road and they're only 100 yards away.

Speaker 34 Two young cops lived right across the street.

Speaker 25 Israel Keys was pretty confident in his ability to pull this off right under the nose of the police.

Speaker 15 So I grabbed that, the silencer, and put that on.

Speaker 15 He saw the gun and he started to say something, and it just pissed me off. off.

Speaker 6 I just started pulling the trigger.

Speaker 15 I pulled as fast as I could until the magazine was empty.

Speaker 6 After he killed Bill, he tells us that he rapes Lorraine Currier.

Speaker 6 He rapes her multiple times.

Speaker 6 Talks about going outside, taking a smoke break, coming back in,

Speaker 6 and raping her again.

Speaker 10 This story hit me a little bit harder than Keith's talking about what happened with Samantha in part

Speaker 10 because

Speaker 10 he was even, I think, more detailed in his description of what happened with Lorraine.

Speaker 2 Just the things that he did to Lorraine were,

Speaker 10 it was incredibly difficult to listen to and to imagine that that happened.

Speaker 10 Sorry.

Speaker 13 Just like, I don't know, I guess you could call it

Speaker 15 the fantasy that developed over the years.

Speaker 6 And he said he took Lorraine downstairs and Bill's obviously deceased on the floor. He describes killing her and then using contractor bags to put their bodies in in the basement of that house.

Speaker 15 The bodies were completely covered and they were underneath a lot of debris that I piled on top of them, like wood and trash.

Speaker 37 Someone like Israel Keys,

Speaker 37 they don't have any kind of feeling for another human being. It's a way of looking at another human being as sort of as an object or a tool to further or advance what it is that I want to do.

Speaker 22 He's kidnapping, raping, and murdering, and he tells it as if he's gone to the grocery store.

Speaker 29 I think he knows he's doing that.

Speaker 22 I think that he likes to just sit there in a way and perhaps get some sense of delight by telling these horrific stories in such a casual way, knowing that he's likely shocking the investigators.

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Speaker 38 Mary Morsey. Hey Mary, it's Frank Russo, Jack Bell, and Israel Keys here.

Speaker 30 We're calling calling from Engrees. Thank you.

Speaker 39 I'm here in my office in Vermont with Lieutenant George Murray, who is in charge of the courier investigation for the Essex Police Department.

Speaker 28 Do you mind if I ask you about

Speaker 24 why Vermont and why Essex Junction?

Speaker 19 It just seems kind of off the meeting path from the areas you've been to.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 15 off the meet and path, that's kind of like what I like to do.

Speaker 6 What we discovered was that the farmhouse in which Israel killed the couriers and disposed of their bodies in had been demolished.

Speaker 10 To find out that the farmhouse had been demolished, that was just

Speaker 10 another kind of blow to the investigation.

Speaker 45 Police dig up a demolished home on Route 15 in Essex, looking for clues.

Speaker 34 I was able to actually contact the guy that tore the house

Speaker 34 He said, well, there were some trash bags over in the corner in the basement.

Speaker 6 And there was a terrible aroma of death emanating from there.

Speaker 15 I mean, if you go into an old farmhouse and smell something dead, that's not really that unusual.

Speaker 23 So

Speaker 15 I figured as long as it passed, like someone went into the basement and looked around a little bit,

Speaker 15 they wouldn't be that suspicious of something smelling dead.

Speaker 34 They sent a cadaver dog into

Speaker 34 the foundation to see what would happen.

Speaker 6 And darned if the dog didn't go over an alert

Speaker 34 right where the excavator said those bags were.

Speaker 31 Everything had been taken away and it had gone up to the one dump that we have in the state of Vermont, which is up in Coventry.

Speaker 12 So what is the deal with the couriers as far as the investigation?

Speaker 20 I mean, where are they at?

Speaker 15 The people back east.

Speaker 19 They're still digging.

Speaker 15 I mean, they haven't found the bodies yet.

Speaker 13 You're kidding.

Speaker 15 You sure they have the right house? Well, that house was demolished and stuff was carved away.

Speaker 31 When they did the demolition, they were digging everything out.

Speaker 17 Wow.

Speaker 30 That is

Speaker 17 crazy.

Speaker 15 I'm just amazed that

Speaker 15 if they actually

Speaker 15 dumped the remains into a dump truck, nobody noticed that.

Speaker 38 There is a new twist in the search for Bill and Lorraine Courier. They vanished in Essex last June.
Now investigators are digging through tons of trash at the landfill in Coventry.

Speaker 13 This is what's known as the Coventry Landfill.

Speaker 13 I haven't been back here since the day the search ended.

Speaker 6 Every morning we would gather, there was a picture.

Speaker 44 of Bill and Lorraine that was in that tent.

Speaker 13 And every time you walked through it, that photo was always there.

Speaker 6 And that was done with intentionality to remind all of us who it was

Speaker 13 we were searching for.

Speaker 24 Waves of us would line up and go through with rakes and picks and shovels through all of the debris. It just was like that hour after hour, day after day.
The smells are horrific.

Speaker 24 There's sharp things everywhere. You have to wear a ton of protective gear in June and July in Vermont.

Speaker 24 It's probably the most grueling effort that I ever made as a crime scene investigator.

Speaker 34 We had no bodies at the time and we had to give closure to the investigation. But I will say closure to the family outweighed the closure to the investigation.

Speaker 24 Now you have a family on the other side of this that's

Speaker 24 living a tortured existence that they just want to have their loved loved ones back.

Speaker 45 11 weeks, 178 agents, folks from the FBI, special search and hazmat teams, looking through 10,000 tons of trash, hundreds of boots, rakes, and a million dollars later, no remains of the couriers.

Speaker 33 Bill and Lorraine, they were together since high school. They were so connected and so much in love with each other.

Speaker 33 And you never saw one without the other.

Speaker 6 I can see them up in heaven and I just see them happy and they don't have pain.

Speaker 46 They don't feel the pain of what happened to them.

Speaker 6 It's all wiped clean.

Speaker 6 At this point now we have Samantha Koenig and the couriers.

Speaker 6 So now we know we have three victims of Israel Keys that he has admitted to killing.

Speaker 14 They are drastically different when you compare them.

Speaker 47 Now you have two genders, you have three individuals that are just vastly different in age even, different locations geographically.

Speaker 6 And so now we know that Israel Keyes is a serial killer.

Speaker 7 So in order to begin putting together possible other victims, Kat Nelson at the FBI begins compiling a timeline of Keyes' travels and then looking in and around those areas at missing persons.

Speaker 26 So this timeline focused mostly on his travels. So you'll see more records here that have to do with airline, hotel, car rentals, the toll roads that we were able to track him on.

Speaker 26 We have him traveling to just multiple places across the United States. Sometimes he's by himself, sometimes he's with other companions.

Speaker 7 He's all over the United States. He's all over Canada, Mexico.

Speaker 48 It's fairly obvious there were other victims. And what can we do to solve unsolved murders, get closures to families, and find out the breadth of what he's done?

Speaker 31 This is the area that we need to concentrate on looking for missing people because he could have driven from Manchester, New Hampshire's airport to any of these areas.

Speaker 37 The strategy at this point is to continue to get him to talk, to follow up.

Speaker 48 It's going to be a very long process.

Speaker 15 I've known since I was 14 that there were things that I thought were normal and that were okay, that nobody else seems to think were normal and okay.

Speaker 15 So that's when I just started being a loner.

Speaker 3 Where were you living at that age?

Speaker 4 In Colville.

Speaker 6 Colville, Craftsman.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Out in the woods. I knew about every inch of that area.

Speaker 16 We're pretty close to where Israel grew up.

Speaker 41 We're about a mile from the paved road, about 20 miles from the nearest town of any size.

Speaker 28 So it's very secluded, very rural, very, very remote.

Speaker 26 Keys grew up in Colville, Washington, in a very ultra-religious, conservative type home.

Speaker 49 They belonged to a pretty extreme community.

Speaker 37 Part of that was almost like a white nationalist type of thing.

Speaker 16 It did seem to be more on the fringe.

Speaker 41 We're right on the edge of Colville National Forest.

Speaker 11 So this is pretty wild.

Speaker 41 I think as Israel grew older and he started experimenting with some of his more violent tendencies, a million miles of Colville National Forest provide a lot of area where he could just disappear into the woods and dissect animals and do some pretty disgusting things.

Speaker 1 The Keys lived up the side of a mountain.

Speaker 29 They lived in kind of a really small shack-like house. Wasn't very big, and so no electricity, no running water.

Speaker 41 And then as the children grew older, they went out and either slept in tents or Israel put together a ramshackle structure of his own on the property.

Speaker 37 He never had a social security number.

Speaker 11 He was homeschooled entirely.

Speaker 37 quite removed from society. There was not a lot of social interaction, especially when he was younger, outside of his family.

Speaker 41 My wife, Desiree, and I chose to chart a different course for our family.

Speaker 29 We were raised in Christian identity. That belief system is a combination of kind of more evangelical Christianity and what would be considered like white supremacist beliefs.

Speaker 41 Anyone outside of their group of like-minded believers was considered the enemy. They were either directly influenced by the media or the the powers that be, or they couldn't be trusted.

Speaker 41 They wouldn't trust doctors, they wouldn't trust lawyers, absolutely no school teachers or anything like that because they were all viewed as being a part of that system.

Speaker 29 A lot of the families would gather in a kind of a large community building and that's where I met the Keys family.

Speaker 29 And Israel was just a teenager, camo pants and big old mic on his side,

Speaker 29 which was totally normal for how I was raised. But Israel was really standoffish.

Speaker 16 He was really quiet.

Speaker 29 He was kind of creepy.

Speaker 29 His father, Jeff, was very domineering.

Speaker 8 His dad was very strict.

Speaker 26 I don't think he had a very good relationship with him.

Speaker 41 Women and children were viewed less than human. They were property.
They were very browbeaten and subjugated.

Speaker 41 When you look at the core things that a child should have, that wasn't the case with the Keyes family because of the patriarchal vent.

Speaker 41 The dad needed to get everything good

Speaker 41 and then the wife and the kids took what was left.

Speaker 29 Israel's mom was kind of a littler woman, always wearing long dresses. Everyone always wore long dresses because that's all you were allowed to wear.

Speaker 29 And his mother was very, very cowed, didn't really speak to people very much. From what I observed in the Keyes family, I don't see how Israel could have really been raised with much regard for women.

Speaker 41 If you look at it from a perspective of the trauma or the damage that he undoubtedly received driving him to who he was, I believe he was acting out some of that basic programming.

Speaker 41 As he began to pursue some of his more narcissistic and violent tendencies, he just built upon that worldview in order to hurt people and worse.

Speaker 29 A lot of the boys and or men that I was around were, you know, they were anti-government, they were militant, you know, they were armed at all times.

Speaker 29 There were clan members, there were skinheads that frequented around the periphery, but Israel

Speaker 29 was even stranger.

Speaker 15 When I was 14, there was a cat of ours that was always getting into the trash. And it was my sister's cat.
And I already told her, that cat gets into the trash again, I'm gonna kill it.

Speaker 15 We all went up into the woods and I had the cat with me. And

Speaker 23 I took a piece of parachute cord and tied it to this tree and

Speaker 15 I shot it in the stomach.

Speaker 15 And it ran around and around the tree and then crashed into the tree. and then started vomiting.
I laughed a little, I think.

Speaker 15 But then I looked over at everybody else and the kid who was about my age was with me.

Speaker 15 He was throwing up. Like he was

Speaker 30 like really

Speaker 15 traumatized, I guess you'd say.

Speaker 10 He recognized he had no emotion on that. Like it was funny to him.

Speaker 10 There were definitely signs there from very, very early age.

Speaker 38 I mean he was setting fires.

Speaker 10 He was torturing animals

Speaker 10 during that time. He was breaking into houses and stealing guns.
He already had a fascination with guns and he was stealing things.

Speaker 37 Learning about some of the behaviors of Keyes early in his life, such as the torture of an animal, it's important to note that there are people that have these types of tendencies who grow up and never act on them.

Speaker 27 And

Speaker 37 what makes that difference?

Speaker 37 That's the million-dollar question.

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Speaker 51 So she quietly and ever so carefully finds his phone and calls for help.

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Speaker 16 I'm Special Agent Ted Hallow with the FBI.

Speaker 16 On March 29th of 2012, Special Agent Jolene Godin called me up and said that they were working in the Samantha Koenig disappearance and that they had made an arrest.

Speaker 19 Sorry, you're under arrest

Speaker 13 And that this individual was Israel Keyes.

Speaker 16 My partner at the time was Special Agent Colleen Sanders.

Speaker 52 I got connected to the Israel Keys case very early on. Our initial assignment was to really kind of delve into the timeframe that Israel Keyes lived in Washington State.

Speaker 16 We would listen to the interviews of Israel Keyes, usually in the morning, because some of the topics are just so dark and grim, you don't want to go to bed with that in your head.

Speaker 16 One point during our interviews with Israel, he makes a comment after his daughter was born in October of 2001. He didn't want to do anything that messed with kids.

Speaker 20 Sometimes

Speaker 20 I didn't want to do anything that would mess with kids or whatever.

Speaker 16 It left us wondering, well, does that mean that he would do something prior to that point that messed with kids?

Speaker 49 12-year-old Julie Harris has been on missing person posters since her disappearance last March.

Speaker 16 Julie Harris was a big media story at the time in rural Colville, Washington, and that was right where Israel was growing up.

Speaker 16 When you were living in Colville, do you remember the case where Julie Harris, she was a double amputee, went missing?

Speaker 34 96?

Speaker 24 Yeah, she lived, I think, pretty close to you, and she went missing.

Speaker 36 I remember the name.

Speaker 15 It was kind of one of those asking interesting things.

Speaker 53 He acknowledged that he'd heard about her murder, but he denied that he had anything to do with it.

Speaker 15 I was working construction at the time, so I would carry stuff,

Speaker 15 but I never took a personal interest in it.

Speaker 50 Very peaceful.

Speaker 54 And the deer come through here a lot.

Speaker 54 But yeah, that's where she was.

Speaker 42 Julie had the personality that I dream of all the time. I try to be happy for everybody because that's what she did.
You know, if you're happy, people will be happy.

Speaker 42 When she was 23 months old, she was diagnosed with mimingocoxemia meningitis, and it was just in her bloodstream. What happened was the blood got so poisoned on her feet, it turned to gangrene.

Speaker 42 She was not handicapped. She is handy capable.

Speaker 11 Oh my goodness. The first time I met Julie, I think it was in the lunch line.
I was kind of a loner. And me and her just clicked.
No judgment. You know, we were both wild, crazy kids.

Speaker 18 Julie's been my big sister forever.

Speaker 13 She was my big sister that I took care of.

Speaker 18 Took care of her and she took care of me.

Speaker 18 I know she liked to swim. Every day that the pool was open, she was in there with me.

Speaker 27 That's where she felt her freest.

Speaker 11 There was no gravity to hold her down.

Speaker 11 We would laugh and

Speaker 11 play

Speaker 11 and just be like really innocent kids. She absolutely loved it.

Speaker 11 Summer of 95, I was 12, turning 13.

Speaker 11 Me and Jolie hung out at the pool every time we had lessons.

Speaker 11 We'd hang out in front of the fence and wait for a ride home.

Speaker 16 We were walking through here and I turned and noticed this kid sitting on the swing set.

Speaker 11 He's slowly rocking back and forth on the swing staring at us. I had no idea who the boy was

Speaker 11 He was 17 or older. There was something not right

Speaker 11 He got like so close I could see the brown slits in his eyes

Speaker 11 He starts saying how cute Julie was and

Speaker 11 It just made me feel uncomfortable because he was an older boy that was

Speaker 11 hitting on little girls. Julie was flattered about a boy paying attention to her.
She gave him her phone number.

Speaker 11 I felt something bad coming for her,

Speaker 11 but I couldn't place it.

Speaker 42 March 3rd of 96. Julie was supposed to get a ride from these church people that lived up the road.
About eight o'clock in the morning, she went outside to wait on the porch

Speaker 42 they never picked her up she wasn't there

Speaker 42 so sometime between 730 and 830 is when she disappeared

Speaker 42 like poof gone

Speaker 18 I rode my bike almost every inch of Colvo looking for Julie

Speaker 13 all the way up to the mountains at the cross.

Speaker 35 Detectives found her two artificial limbs on the shore of the Colville River just last week.

Speaker 49 Investigators all weekend were sifting through the dirt looking for more evidence, but so far they've turned up no suspects.

Speaker 11 Her backpack and legs were found about 10 miles from her home.

Speaker 11 It was a dark moment.

Speaker 24 What I seen that looked like a skull was laying right down there.

Speaker 49 On Saturday, children playing in these woods found the skeleton of a girl.

Speaker 42 The autopsy said the bones made it look like she had a rough time before she died, so they're considering it murder.

Speaker 11 Everybody's waiting for an arrest. Everybody's waiting to find out who did it.

Speaker 11 And it's just dead end.

Speaker 11 Until Israel Keys came up as a serial killer,

Speaker 11 I started looking him up. I started seeing his pictures.

Speaker 11 And it dawned on me, he was the boy at the pool

Speaker 11 the summer before she went missing.

Speaker 42 When I first seen a picture of Israel Keys,

Speaker 42 I got stomachache.

Speaker 14 I was all in nerves.

Speaker 42 And then

Speaker 42 I remember Loretta telling me that

Speaker 42 this boy asked for Julie's phone number at the pool, and it was Israel.

Speaker 42 Julie could have been his first.

Speaker 42 The police need to

Speaker 42 find out. You know, they need to do the investigation.
I need to know what happened to my daughter.

Speaker 52 Would have been nice to have been able to talk about Julie Harris, but he was clearly not going to do that at that point.

Speaker 52 I have no reason to tell you more information.

Speaker 15 The things I've done, I don't feel bad about them, and I didn't do them because

Speaker 24 I felt I had no other choice.

Speaker 15 I did them for myself, so it's better actually for me to keep them to myself.

Speaker 15 Because they're mine

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Speaker 43 Two rings, surrounded by a steel cage.

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Speaker 7 When Keyes was 20, he joined the United States Army. This is a guy who was raised off the grid.
He had no social security number. He had never been to a school.
He was a home birth.

Speaker 7 He has zero proof on paper that he is who he says he is.

Speaker 7 And he walks into a recruiting office on the East Coast. He says, I want to join the Army.

Speaker 33 And they take him.

Speaker 52 Keyes spent, I think, three years in the Army. We learned that he was, for all intents and purposes, a really good soldier.
He was a good marksman.

Speaker 53 You know, he came in with survival skills and, you know, a level of fitness that probably, you know, put him ahead of the game.

Speaker 32 The Army provided a learning opportunity to Keyes to learn how to interact and get along with, at least to a fairly normal degree, with other individuals.

Speaker 10 It was during this time in the military, 1998 to 2001, really a time for him where he was trying to kind of figure out who he was and what he was doing.

Speaker 15 There was just a lot of stuff that happened when I was in the Army that changed my perspective on things, just really changed my perspective on the big picture.

Speaker 15 made me realize that you know if that was what I wanted to do then

Speaker 15 I should just do it if you wanted to kill somebody yeah because all the stuff I had been so concerned about before didn't really matter that much

Speaker 15 and when I was in the army I was in Egypt and there was that time when I moved to Tel Aviv there was a girl that I met

Speaker 15 she was pretty young it was from a

Speaker 15 Norwegian exchange student or something

Speaker 15 and we were hanging out and stuff and she told me where her room was.

Speaker 15 I did lose control a little bit as things progressed, and

Speaker 23 I wouldn't say that was like an outright rape.

Speaker 15 That's when I realized

Speaker 15 that if I was going to do that kind of stuff, it had to just be complete strangers, couldn't be anyone who knew me.

Speaker 15 Just realized that if I kept doing stuff like that, it was only a matter of time before I got caught.

Speaker 36 The time I spent with Israel Keys, he was very nice to be around,

Speaker 36 but he had different, I won't say personalities, but he came across as different ways to me.

Speaker 36 I was a specialist in Alpha Company 15 Infantry, and I spent four years in Fort Lewis, Washington with Israel Keys.

Speaker 24 I would give Israel Keys like 20 bucks.

Speaker 34 We would go to cut wood.

Speaker 36 He liked talking about banks and bank robberies.

Speaker 36 I entertained that thought with him and talked about that.

Speaker 36 It went to some darker stuff later.

Speaker 37 Some of the things that Keys said to the men that he associated with in the Army may have been indications of what his fantasies were.

Speaker 36 He switched over to talking about kill kits and running around and doing things that I was uncomfortable with talking about.

Speaker 24 He talked about hiding a kit

Speaker 36 in a place that he wanted to hurt someone.

Speaker 26 He would go out and bury these kill kits so that they weren't ready for him to use whenever he felt the time was right for him to go out and commit homicide.

Speaker 7 And these were five gallon Home Depot Depot bags that he filled with zip ties and duct tape and guns and ammunition

Speaker 7 and cash because he needed to not leave a paper trail. He buried kill kits all over the continental United States.

Speaker 36 He wanted to backtrack and go to places of the country and make a trail that'll be difficult to trace where he's been.

Speaker 10 He's definitely talked about the hunt, how how the urge would come about him, and then he would

Speaker 10 plan a trip and a homicide would happen. It was a hunt for him, a hunt for kind of that perfect situation.

Speaker 36 I don't think I know a tenth of what Israel Keyes was or who he was.

Speaker 36 He was very guarded and he told stories and lies. Even to this day,

Speaker 36 the stories I heard don't match up to what the FBI has mentioned.

Speaker 10 Keyes was incarcerated at the Anchorage Correctional Complex, charged with the death of Samantha Koenig.

Speaker 10 Keyes has been in custody for a little over two months.

Speaker 8 The May 23rd hearing was an ordinary hearing that's very common in criminal cases.

Speaker 10 It was just a typical hearing that we have in order to kind of set the stage and establish a timeline for the rest of the criminal case leading up to trial.

Speaker 8 Security was always paramount when we were transporting Keys.

Speaker 2 He's obviously a very dangerous person.

Speaker 14 General Keys was walking in with the federal marshals.

Speaker 40 He was bound, shackled.

Speaker 13 This reminded you something that you see from like a movie.

Speaker 26 It was a pretty packed gallery at that point between media.

Speaker 26 Friends and family of Samantha Koenigs were there.

Speaker 56 I was at most of the court hearings because I wanted to show my support for my sister.

Speaker 56 I remember trying to keep my composure because my mom's like, did not give him the satisfaction of seeing you cry.

Speaker 26 Keys is sitting at the defendant's table and keeps glancing back towards the door that exits the courtroom.

Speaker 26 There was a female intern sitting right there by the door.

Speaker 6 I noticed Israel was staring down this young, attractive female, six or seven seats over to my right, and I kept watching him watch her.

Speaker 26 We didn't know what's going on, but he was just deadlocked on her.

Speaker 6 Made me very uncomfortable.

Speaker 6 Jeff actually went to go sit in front of her to keep Keys from staring at her.

Speaker 14 He would have to look at me and not her. All right.

Speaker 26 The judge comes in, the hearing begins.

Speaker 50 It's filed shortly after the court issued the order in this matter setting today's hearing. Our position is that at this particular juncture, we're not.

Speaker 56 I just see him like flying out of his seat.

Speaker 10 This is Deborah Roberts.

Speaker 9 Join us next week for the chilling conclusion of Wild Crime, 11 Skulls. Wild Crime is a production of Lone Wolf Media for ABC News Studios.

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