Episode 121: “The Leader of the Pack” by the Shangri-Las

A History of Folk Music and 500 Songs

by Andrew Hinke.

Episode 121 Leader of the Pack

by the Shangri-Lars

Today we're going to look at one of the great death discs of all time, a record that was the epitome of the genre, and one that rendered it more or less defunct, because nothing was ever going to top that record.

We're also going to look at the career of a group that are often called the quintessential girl group, but who despised the term, and at how the mafia shut down a great record label.

We're going to look at Leader of the Pack, where the Shangri-Lars.

He turned around and smiled at me, you get the picture?

Yes, we see.

That's when I fell for the leader of the pack.

To tell the story of the Shangri-Lars, we need to return for the last time to Lieber and Stoller.

After their time at Atlantic, working with the Drifters and the Coasters, the duo had had a falling out with the Ertigan brothers and Jerry Wexler over what they considered to be unpaid royalties and spent a couple of years less successfully working at United Artists.

But they'd got the urge to start up their own label again, like the one they'd run in the fifties, Spark Records.

Their main reason for doing this was financial.

While they'd produced most of the hit records they'd written, the only actual money they made from any of them came from the songwriting royalties they got, which came to about two cents per record split between them.

As Lieber put it, after a while we got to thinking, why should we settle for two cents when we could have our own record and get 21 cents?

They started a label called Tiger Records, and their first release was by Tippy and the Clovers, one of two groups that had formed around ex-members of the classic doo-wop group The Clovers, when they'd split a couple of years earlier.

Lieber and Stoller wrote and produced it, but the record went nowhere.

the sweat falling out of my head.

She said, babe, Boss and Old, baby, keep on working, but it ain't no time to quit.

She said, go, Boss and Old, baby, keep on dancing, I'm about to have a separate.

The record wasn't a dead loss, though.

A couple of months afterwards, Elvis recorded a soundalike cover version.

Elvis wasn't allowed to work directly with Libra and Stoller anymore, because Colonel Parker saw them as a threat to his domination of Elvis, but he still liked their material and would record it.

Elvis' version featured in the film Fun in Acapulco and made the top 20.

So they were still making hits, but still making only their two cents a record.

Less, actually, because Elvis always took a cut of any song he recorded.

After Tippy and the Clover's record flopped, Lieber and Stoller put their label on hold.

A year later, they started another label, Daisy, Daisy, and announced it with a blaze of publicity.

They signed writing and production deals with Barry and Greenwich, Bacharak and David, Robert Bateman, and more, and were going to write and produce stuff themselves as well.

The first record on Daisy Records, Big Bad World by Cathy Saint, seemed like a likely winner.

was more so right.

And though the moon was shining nice and bright, it's a big, bad word.

A big bad word.

They make you sit and wait for them to come around.

It might have been a success, except that it came out the week that Kennedy was killed, and the radio stations dropped anything remotely upbeat.

Daisy only put out four singles in total, because the Kurdie assassination stalled its momentum completely, and so Liever and Stoller revived the Tiger Records label instead.

They put out several great records, such as Go Now by Bessie Banks, a song written by Banks' husband and produced by Liever and Stoller.

And since you gotta go or you had better go now

Go now, go now

But that wasn't a hit either, though it was a hit for the Moody Blues a year later.

Of course, as Libra and Stoller hadn't written that one, they didn't even get their two cents a copy copy for the Moody Blues record.

Lieber and Stoller came up with yet another label for their company, Red Bird, but had a realisation.

They knew how to make records, but didn't know how to sell them.

But they knew someone who did.

George Goldner is someone who has come into the narrative many times before, of course.

He had been the owner of the record labels for whom the Chantelles, Frankie Lyman and the Teenagers, and many others had first recorded, and he was someone with taste that was regarded as simultaneously terrible and great by the music industry.

For one reason.

The stuff he liked matched uncannily what the average fourteen year old girl enjoyed.

And this is something that needs to be emphasised at this point.

We've looked quite a bit at what are termed girl groups in recent months, but it's important to note that that wasn't what they were called at the time.

They were just vocal groups, rock and roll singers, just like any other rock and roll singers.

The distinction between girl groups and doo wop singers, and the distinction between both of those and rock music more generally, is something that was imposed in the 70s, mostly by male music journalists, as part of a process of revisionist history which retroactively defined rock and roll as music made by white male singer instrumentalists.

But what is very definitely the case is that immediately before the British invasion, the American music industry was in a position it had never really been before and hasn't been since, in that not only were the audience predominantly teenage girls, but the industry was making money by selling recordings by teenage girls, singing about the things that teenage girls cared about.

The power was still all with the older men who owned the record companies and produced the records, of course, but this was the high point for the active involvement of the target demographic in making the records they were being sold.

Once the Beatles hit and were properly assimilated into the industry, the record companies started to concentrate on selling young male performers.

But but at this time, more than any other, having a feeling for what teenage girls liked was an advantage, and that was something that George Goldner absolutely had.

Jerry Lieber had gone out for a drink and bumped into High Weiss, the owner of a medium-sized record label, who introduced him to Goldner.

Goldner was, at the time, short of money, as his gambling habit had once again caught up to him.

and he was begging Weiss for a job, and Weiss was using this as a way of making himself look important in front of Lieber, mocking Goldner, blowing smoke in his face, and saying things like, Would you pay this schmuck $350 a week?

While Goldner plaintively insisted he was worth at least $500.

When Weiss went off to the toilet, Lieber offered Goldner something better than a job.

He offered him an equal share in what was at that point a failing business, but one that could pay him more than that $350,

if he could find a hit.

He'd get the share only if the first record he picked out was a hit for the label.

Goldner went up to Red Red Bird's offices and listened through all the acetates overnight, and in the morning he was absolutely certain that he'd found a surefire hit.

So sure, he said he'd bet his life on it.

This horrified Lever,

as the record was one that he thought was utterly dreadful and the worst thing that the label had.

Chapel of Love had been a song that Barry and Greenwich had written with Phil Spector, and Spectre had cut a version of it with Darlie and Love on lead vocal.

However, at the time, Spectre would record vastly more material than he could actually use, and he didn't release that track.

Barry and Greenwich had thought that the song still had some potential, and when they started working at Redbird, they brought it in for a new group they were working with, the Meltones.

Lieber had hated the song, but Stoller had thought there was something to it, and had worked on the session.

With most records on Redbird, there is more than a little disagreement as to who did what.

This one is credited as a Lieber and Stoller production, but Lieber freely admitted that he had nothing to do with a record he loathed.

The production was by some combination of Stoller, Barry, and Greenwich, while the arrangement was some combination of Stoller, Greenwich, Wardel Cazare, and Joe Jones, a New Orleans musician whose band had played on Roy Brown's original version of Good Rocking Tonight, and who was the manager of the Meltones.

The Meltones were quickly renamed the Dixie Cups, and their version of Chapel of Love went to number one.

Go into the chapel, Landwick,

gone

get married.

Going to the chapel and we're gonna

get married.

Gee, I really love you and we're gonna

get mad.

Go into

the chapel of Lord

Spring.

George Goldner was now a partner in Redbird Records, and Lieber and Stella were so disgusted that a record like that was a hit that they basically washed their hands of the creative side of the label.

They remained the owners of two-thirds of the label, and were a vital part in bringing the people who made the records together, but for the most part they just made little RB records for the subsidiary label Blue Cat, and left the hit-making to other people.

George Goldner and his new young assistant Seymour Stein would do all the promotion, and the records would mostly be produced by Barry, Greenwich, Joe Jones, and a young man named George Morton, who everyone called Shadow.

Shadow Morton had been around the fringes of the music industry for years, but had never had any success.

He'd started out as a teenager in the late 50s with a vocal group called the Marquise.

This is not either of the two similarly named groups we've looked at so far, who'd recorded a handful of tracks.

Oh well tonight I have a date and I know I won't be late.

Oh it's for my girdle dove and she's my only love oh baby

Oh little baby watch it go and make me cry hold on my funny week away

Oh well I grabbed it by the hand and out the door we ran in my car we hopped and then I had a stop safe baby He spent a few years making similarly unsuccessful records, but his ambition never properly matched up with his ability.

He had ambitious musical ideas and was seriously into jazz, but he wasn't an instrumentalist or a particularly talented vocalist.

He seems to have been trying to model himself on Phil Spectre at this time, someone who got by on personal brand and ideas rather than on any particular abilities, and he was going for novelty records.

The most notable record he made up until this point was a song called Only 17 by The Beatlettes, which was rushed out in late February 1964.

I'm only 17,

but I'd so like to be your queen.

I think you're brand,

I think you're grand.

You asked me to, now I'm gonna

let you hold my hand.

You said I loved him, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Said I loved him, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Even with the credits produced by George Morton, accurate, but very similar to the Beatles' production credits, that didn't have any success.

And Morton was fairly desperate when an old friend mentioned that Ellie Greenwich, that girl who'd been at high school with them, had been making hit records.

Morton called her up, and out of politeness, she invited him to drop in at the Trio Music Office.

Trio was the publishing company owned by Libra and Stoller, and to which Barry and Greenwich were signed as songwriters.

Morton went to the office and was quite intimidated by the number of gold records on the walls, and also took an instant dislike to Jeff Barry's attitude.

Barry was quite obviously unimpressed by Greenwich's down-on-his-look old school friend.

Barry eventually said to him, So what is it you do for a living?

Morton replied, Same thing as you.

I write songs.

What kind of songs?

Hit songs.

Barry said that if Morton wrote hit songs he should bring them one, basically daring him.

Morton walked out of the room, then came back and said, Do you want a fast hit or a slow one?

Barry laughed and told him to bring them a slow hit, and Morton said he'd have one for them by Tuesday.

To make a demo, he turned to his former bandmates from the Marquis.

Two of them, Joe and Marty Monaco, owned a recording studio that Morton often used, while another one, Tony Michaels, had gone into songwriting and management.

He was managing a group of teenage girls, two pairs of sisters, Betty and Mary Weiss, and the identical twins Margie and Mary Ann Ganser.

We don't have as much information as we'd like about how the group came together and got a manager.

Neither of the Weisses has given many interviews and both Gansers are sadly dead.

But they grew up in the same area of Queen's, and were singing together from their pre-teen years, particularly influenced by the Everly brothers and the the Inkspots.

Michaels had discovered the group and recorded them singing several of his songs, and they'd come up with the name Shangri-Lars after seeing it as the name of a restaurant on the way to their first session.

Although, when this was originally released, the name was misspelled as Shangri-Lars.

That session and their second session were intended as just demos, but Michaels had contacts with Karma Sutra, an independent production company run by a former doo-wop singer named Artie Rip, and Karma Sutra shopped the recordings around.

The second session, for more Tony Michaels songs, was interesting because both songs recorded started with a spoken intro, which is something that would happen with almost all their later records, and is often thought of as something that Morton created, but it's clearly something that the group were doing before they met him.

One of the many cases in stories like this of the man who was good at promoting himself as a genius being credited for something that someone else came up with.

You laughed at my advice.

Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.

Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.

But I told you, you'd be crying.

If you did,

stop your lying.

I warned you every day,

but you had to learn the hard, hard way.

I just had a lot of Merton decided to use these girls that his friend was managing, gave them the address of the studio, and got another friend to book in a few musicians.

It was apparently only on the way to the studio that he realised that he also needed an actual song, so he pulled over to the side of the road and quickly worked out something, which he later realised was loosely based on his favourite modern jazz quartet track, Sketch.

The piano player on the session was a 14-year-old kid playing his first ever session, and he later described Morton's production technique.

He's a pretty strange guy, Shadow.

He's wearing this big cape and dark glasses, and he played the producer Old to the Hilt.

I think he had a thing about Phil Spectre.

He wanted to be the Phil Spectre of the East Coast.

And he talked in these wild, dramatic theatrical terms.

He wanted more thunder, and he wanted more purple in the record.

He's waving his arms in the air saying, Give me more purple.

And I'm sitting there kind of nervous.

This is my first time ever in a recording studio, and I'm hissing to the other musicians, what does that mean?

How do I play purple?

And the guitar player leans over and says, Oh, just play louder, kid.

Billy Joel would later claim that that Shadow Morton never paid him the $67 fee he was owed for the session, but apparently it's him playing the portentous opening chords on the record.

That's on

According to most sources, the original recording of that track was seven minutes long, but even so, Barry and Greenwich could hear that Morton had indeed brought them a slow hit like he promised.

Morton was signed up as a songwriter and producer, and the Shangri-Lars as artists.

Barry, Greenwich, Morton, and Artie Butler went back into the studio with a two-minute edit of the recording.

Some sources say they recorded a whole new backing track, but most say it was an edit of the demo, and put together a shortened version of the song that was suitable for radio play, having the girls re-sing the vocals with Mary taking the lead, as she would for most of their recordings.

Most notably, they overdubbed a lot of sound effects of waves and seagulls on the chorus, and sound effects would become a regular feature of the Shangri-Lars records from this point on.

The record came out and was a success, but then Artie Rip came calling, claiming that the Shangri-Lars were under an exclusive contract to Karma Sutra Productions.

There had been no contract, but, and I have to be careful exactly what I say here, because Rip is still alive.

Rip had got his start working with George Goldner and Maurice Levy, and his business was apparently backed financially by some associates of Goldner's.

The end result was that Morton and Greenwich's names were taken off the record as producers, and the production was now credited to Jeff Barry and Artie Rip, and Karma Sutra would get a percentage of the Shangri-La's earnings.

The group was suddenly big.

Remember, Walking in the Sand made the top five, and they got booked onto Murray the Kay's Brooklyn Fox shows.

They were towards the bottom of the bill, but given that the bill also featured the Searchers, Millie, Martha and the Vandellas, Marvin Gaye, the Temptations, Jay and the Americans, the Contours, the Ronnettes, the Supremes, Little Anthony and the Imperials, Dusty Springfield, the Miracles, and the Devels, all on the same show.

Being near the bottom wasn't too much of an insult.

A few weeks later they also performed at the bottom of the bill at a Beatles concert, and they toured on bills with the Beach Boys and the Rolling Stones.

They were going places, and they made an impression on at least some of the other acts.

Chris Curtis of the Searchers would later talk about them, saying, It's quite a weird presentation they've got.

The lead singer stands right over on one side of the the stage, and the three others stand in the middle, instead of the other way round.

It's because when they sing remember and she goes walking in the sand, she turns her head away and looks down all dispassionately, and they wave their arms about.

They do a lot of weird actions.

It's like choreography with arms if you can have such a thing.

One girl's hand goes down, then the next, then the next.

I've never seen anything like it before.

But when the group toured the UK a few months later, Curtis was disappointed to find that, in his words, the prettiest one wasn't there.

In late 1964, Betty Weiss became pregnant.

At that time, even more than today, there was no way that an unmarried 17-year-old pregnant girl could be presented as a member of a big pop group, and so for a few months she was gone from the group in public, with no explanation, which is why you'll see a number of publicity photos of the group with only three members.

though she continued recording with them.

At this point, the group's repertoire, other than Remember, was pretty much all rock and roll standards.

Their first album, a mixture of their early singles and live recordings, contains live performances of Maybe, Twist and Shout, Shout, and Good Night, My Love, but they obviously needed a follow-up single.

The song that they ended up recording had been intended by Morton for another group, the Goodies.

Not, sadly, the British comedy trio of the 70s, but the song was given to the Shangri-Lars and became another record with a spoken intro, a portentous piano opening, and sound effects.

The leader of the pack brilliantly fused two very different but equally melodramatic pop subgenres.

The song starts off as if it's going to be a song much like He's a Rebel, about being in love with someone the world thinks is bad, but who you know has a heart of gold, but with elements of other Spectre records.

And while Morton is the principal songwriter, Barry and Greenwich are also credited, and it's easy to hear their musical fingerprints in the bass riff in the verse.

But where a song about being in love with the bad boy would normally end up with everyone seeing how the bad boy wasn't really all that bad, this one instead turned into a death disc, and one with a painful twist, where normally the boy who dies in a death disc does so knowing that his girlfriend loves him.

Here, the girl is forced by her father to dump him, and he drives off with tears in his eyes, and immediately crashes and dies.

He's so small, and kissed me goodbye.

The tears were beginning to show.

As he drove away on that rainy night, I begged him to go slow.

Whether he heard, I'll never know.

It is in many ways the ultimate death disc, and it's not surprising that the genre largely died after that.

Though there would be one final death disc hit in the UK a couple of months afterwards, when a one-hit wonder singer called Twinkle released a song called Terry, which sounds like it took more than a little inspiration from the Shangri-La's record.

He said to me, You are the one who my love I shall give.

One day he'll know how hard I prayed for him to live.

Please wait at the gate of heaven for me.

Leader of the pack went to number one.

The Shangri-Lars were now one of the biggest groups in the country and one of the few new American acts to break through in a year when British bands dominated the American charts.

Meanwhile, Morton was working with the Goodies on another song, Give Him a Great Big Kiss, intended to be their first single since Leader of the Pack had been taken from them, but again it was given to the Shangvillars.

The first the Goodies knew that the song had been taken from them was when one of them was phoned by a friend and told she'd heard their song on the radio.

The song was in a very different style from the Shangri-Lars' earlier singles, being far more up-tempo, but continues their tradition of having a spoken intro.

This time, Mary starting the song with the immortal line,

and had this wonderful bit of dialogue in the middle.

You'll be pleased to know that the Goodies did eventually get to record a single with Morton.

Both sides of the record were later covered by the Shangri-Lars, but the Goodies did at least get to put them out first.

The A side, the Dum Dum Ditty, is a bit of a case of too many cooks.

It's written by Morton with three other songwriters, Steve Vennett, Tommy Boyce, and Bobby Hart.

But the B-side, Sophisticated Boom Boom, is a wonderful piece of fun pop.

And he said, Sophisticated.

It's been longer than

bumble,

we've been needing something new.

Sophisticated bumble,

that's the thing for.

Unfortunately, Red Bird didn't put any real effort into promoting that, and the goodies split up.

For the Shangri-Lars though, Give Him a Great Big Kiss was another hit, making number 18.

But the next few singles didn't do particularly well.

They all made the hot 100, but only one of their next four singles made the top forty.

But they made the top ten again in October 1965, with another song that amped up the melodrama to even higher levels than Leader of the Pack.

In I Can Never Go Home Anymore, the protagonist again falls in love with a boy her parents don't approve of, but this time she has a row with her mother and runs away from home, only to immediately split up with the boy, but she can't go back home because her mother has died of loneliness in the meantime.

the baby,

you cry.

Mama won't go

and you can never

go home anymore.

The Shangri-Lars and Morton had hit on a winning formula.

Think of the saddest possible thing that could happen, and put it over the most intense music they could, and they were bound to have a hit.

But Red Bird Records had a problem, and that problem was named George Goldner.

Lieber and Stoller had become increasingly concerned about Goldner's debts and his unsavoury practices.

They'd noticed a large number of business associates of Goldner's hanging round the Red Bird offices, and those people didn't seem to be the kind of people they wanted to be associates of.

Not only this, but Goldner had apparently taken to getting the pressing plants to press up thousands of extra copies of records, which he was letting his gangster friends sell to pay for his gambling debts.

Lieber and Stoller came up with a plan.

They didn't want to be having to supervise their business partner all the time, but someone needed to supervise him.

Then out of the blue, Jerry Lieber got a phone call from Jerry Wexler.

While Lieber and Stoller had left Atlantic holding something of a grudge over their business differences, they still basically thought of Wexler and the Ertigan brothers as being their type of people.

They were all East Coast people from marginalised ethnicities who loved black culture and had got into the music business because of their love for jazz and blues music.

At this point, Atlantic was in a bit of a commercial slump.

Ray Charles and Bobby Darin had left.

The Drifters and the Coasters weren't selling like they had been a couple of years earlier, and they hadn't yet signed the acts that would make them the huge success they once again became in the late 60s.

Their only real success at this point was as distributors for the records that were coming out of stacks, but they did still have that massive distribution and sales team.

They were great at the business side of the music business, but just didn't have the artists, writers, and producers at present.

Redbird, on the other hand, was producing more great hit records than they knew what to do with, but had nobody involved who had the first clue about business.

Wexler wanted to know if Lieber would be interested in talking about a merger between the two labels.

Lieber and Stoller thought this sounded like a great idea.

They could be equal partners with their old friends, and Jerry Wexler would be able to supervise George Goldner in a way that they wouldn't.

They agreed to a meeting in a restaurant.

Armet and Neshui Ertigan, Jerry Wexler, and Atlantic's lawyers, plus Lieber, Stoller, Goldner, and Red Bird's lawyer, Lee Eastman.

We've mentioned Eastman a few times before, but as a refresher, he was a long-standing entertainment lawyer who had been in the business for decades.

His one-year-old daughter had been the subject of the 1942 standard Linda, which had been a hit for numerous people, most recently Jan and Dean.

Everyone who was at that meeting told the story a different way, and only Mike Stoller is still alive to tell it.

So nobody except him knows for sure exactly what happened.

But this is the closest I can get to what seems to have happened.

I'm largely following here the account from Lieber and Stella's autobiography, but also looking at a biography of Ertigan.

What seems to have happened is that Goldner immediately proceeded to get very drunk.

Wexler then said something to the effect of, this could be a good partnership.

You've got what we need, and we've got what you need.

Goldner responded, who needs a label that's going down the toilet?

Ahmet Ertigan protested that the label wasn't going down the toilet, and Goldner responded that with the, and here he used an expletive which I can't use if I want to keep my clean rating on the various podcast platforms, that you've been releasing, it won't be long.

Lee Eastman then also started saying that he didn't see that it was in Redbird's interest to merge with Atlantic.

Wexler responded that Eastman didn't even know what they were going to offer yet.

Eastman said that Atlantic had nothing to offer that would be worth Red Bird's while.

Wexler said, wait till you hear the offer.

And then Ahmet Ertigan said, I didn't know we were prepared to make a formal offer.

Goldner then said that Wexler and Ertigan each clearly didn't know what the other was doing.

They're just jerking each other off.

Aside from a free lunch, this is a goddamn waste of time.

Eastman agreed, and the Ertigans walked out of the meeting.

Lieber and Stoller later decided that Goldner had been sabotaging the meeting because he didn't want the oversight that might have exposed his corruption.

while Eastman had backed Goldner up because he was worried that the post-merger organisation wouldn't need his services and was trying to keep his own job safe.

I hasten to point out that this is their interpretation of those people's motives, and that Eastman in particular may well have had a different take on things.

Not only did the merger fall through, but it created a huge amount of distrust among everyone involved.

Armet Ertigan decided, based on Wexler's comments about wait till you hear the offer, that Wexler had been conspiring with Lieber and Stoller behind his back, and that he had been trying to force the Ertigans out.

Lieber and Stoller would no longer be welcome to work for Atlantic at all, and Oertigan and Wexler, while they were still both at Atlantic, were not on speaking terms for many years.

Lieber and Stoller decided they just needed to get out.

They went up to Goldner and told him they were giving him the company because they wanted to get back to making records.

They had papers drawn up to sell their shares to him for the nominal fee of a dollar.

When Goldner didn't have a dollar, Lieber lent him one, which Goldner then handed back to him to pay for Redbird.

Within a year, the label had been sold off to Shelby Singleton at Mercury Records to pay for Goldner's debts.

And this is where we leave Goldner, Lieber, and Stoller.

Goldner would start one more label, but it had no success, and he died of a heart attack in 1970.

Lieber and Stoller, meanwhile, continued working successfully in the music industry, but we won't be looking at them any further.

In later years, they'd write Is That All There Is for Peggy Lee, co-write and produce Pearl's a Singer for Elkie Brooks and produce Stuck in the Middle With You for Steelers Wheel.

Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.

Here I am stuck in the middle with you.

Yes, I'm stuck in the

But their period of importance in the development of rock music was over.

Jerry Lieber died in 2011, aged 78, and Mike Stoller still occasionally writes songs.

They left behind a body of work as songwriters and producers that's unparalleled in rock and roll music history, and there's no way adequately to sum up their contributions, except to say that even in the nine episodes that have largely looked at their work, we've barely scratched the surface.

During the last year that Red Bird struggled along, the Shangri-Lars continued to release music, but the turmoil at the company meant that none of it was as successful as their previous recordings.

Even the monumental Past, Present, and Future, a dramatic recitation over music based on Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata, only scraped its way to number 59.

I used to sing

a tisket, a tasket, a green and yellow basket.

I'm all packed up and I'm on my way, and I'm gonna fall in love.

But at the moment, it doesn't look good.

At the moment,

it will never happen again.

I don't think

it will ever

happen

again.

When Red Bird was sold to Mercury, the Shangri-Lars moved along with it, although at this point Marge left the group, leaving them as a trio of Mary, Betty and Mary Ann.

But the records they made for Mercury didn't chart, and after two singles they were dropped.

Morton, meanwhile, was more interested in the new artists he'd signed to his production company, like the Vanilla Fudge, and Janice Ian, whose first hit he produced.

She called you boy instead of your name

When she wouldn't let you inside

When she turned and said, But honey, he is not our kind

She says I can't see you anymore

Morton apparently also served as the uncredited producer on a record by a new group called Iron Butterfly, who he thought were too tight in the studio and needed to play Sloppier.

He told them the equipment was malfunctioning and just to practice the song and jam a bit, while secretly recording them.

The 17-minute result made up one side of their album, while the 3-minute single edit became their biggest hit.

Morton would go on to work with groups like the New York Dolls, but his career was essentially destroyed by his alcoholism, and he did little of note in the last 40 years of his life.

He died in 2013.

After being dropped by Mercury Records, the Shangri-Lars were involved in a tangled web of litigation that meant that for 10 years, none of them could record.

The group split up, but remained friendly.

But Mary Ann was having problems with drugs and alcohol.

She was hospitalised, and for a while she got herself clean.

But then one night in 1970, she and her sister went round to visit Betty Weiss.

While she was there, she relapsed and overdosed.

Betty didn't have a telephone, and Mary Ann died before medical help could get there.

She died one month to the day before George Goldner.

In 1977, the legal problems that had stopped the group from recording finally resolved themselves, and they decided to take a chance at a comeback.

They called Seymour Stein, who they'd known from his days at Redbird and who now owns Sire Records.

Stein was enthusiastic about working with them again, as their music had been a huge influence on groups like The Cramps and Blundy, who were now becoming popular as part of the new punk scene around CBGBs.

Stein put the group together with a songwriter and producer named Andy Paley, who was part of the punk scene and had worked with people like the Ramones, but who also had a sensibility for the melodic pop styles of the pre-Beatles 60s, as you can hear from his recordings as part of the duo The Paley Brothers.

Gotta suit the minister.

He don't care.

If he don't ever come up for air, the t-shirt, shot, shape, so

how low can you go

from sea to shadow sea?

Check them out for you and me.

La dentine, s'est fonda stick.

Le passifique, s'est derifique.

Paley put together a backing band for the group, consisting of himself on guitar, with Lenny Kay and J.D.

Doherty of the Patty Smith Group, on bass and drums.

And they played one show at CBGB's, which was apparently a huge success, but the sessions fizzled out.

It seems that the group weren't really all that interested in making any more records.

They just wanted to prove to themselves that they could.

There were tentative approaches to other labels for a couple of years, but most of the record companies wanted wanted them to go disco, while Mary wanted to do something more in the style of the New York art punks who were so influenced by the group, and nothing came of it.

The Shangri-Lars would only play one more show together, in 1989, when they became aware of another group performing under their name, and so did a show to establish their ownership of the trademark.

They eventually settled with the management of the fake group, who were allowed to continue touring as the Shangri-Lars so long as they paid a royalty for use of the name.

Marge died in 1996, and Betty has largely chosen to stay out of the spotlight, to the extent that Mary, who is very protective of her sister, won't answer questions about her.

After decades of avoiding the music industry herself, Mary eventually recorded a solo album in 2007.

that I hold inside.

You're never gonna see me cry.

That's one thing, baby.

Baby, you better know.

Mary now occasionally performs live and will give the occasional interview, though she never reveals much about herself or the group.

She detests them being called a girl group, saying they were rock and roll singers and shouldn't be defined by their gender.

After spending her whole life since she was 15 having her public image controlled by other people, and for much of that time not being able to work in her chosen field, and after seeing the damage that was done to her sister and their friends, she will now only do things and talk about her life on her own terms.

And who can blame her?

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