Farewell Show: LIVE With Ian Carroll | Candace Ep 183

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Speaker 3 All right, you guys, it's here. The last episode before I go on maternity leave.
I'm fortunately being joined by Ian Carroll. A lot, I feel like, happened over the weekend.

Speaker 3 I don't know, Blake Lively trying to grift off of her mom's trauma. Ian did a great video speaking about what's going on with Justin Bieber and the Hollywood Wars.

Speaker 3 Of course, obviously, there's been a lot of blowback to Jordan Peterson over everything that he has said about psychopaths, which just means everyone who disagrees with me is one.

Speaker 3 So, we're going to jump right into it. Welcome back to Candace.

Speaker 3 Ian Carroll, welcome back.

Speaker 2 Good to be back. Good to see you.

Speaker 3 People are excited that you're going to be taking over for me.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's really humbling, and I'm really glad. I'm proud to be doing it.
And I'm actually really excited about the stories that I'm kind of working on right now to get ready for it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're like also like me where you just get on a rabbit hole and just start researching and you're suddenly everywhere. I was watching a video that you did.

Speaker 3 We should talk about this briefly because I think it's all kind of related to psychology being used on the public, us being socially engineered, and we're we're kind of noticing a lot of things at once.

Speaker 3 And particularly in Hollywood, it's kind of when somebody tries to get out, then we're suddenly told that they're on drugs and they're crazy. And you did a video on Justin Bieber.

Speaker 3 So what was your, what is your take there?

Speaker 2 I mean, we're still in the middle of whatever's happening to Justin, but I mean, I really was building off of a lot of things that you had said and a lot of things that Brett had said.

Speaker 2 And even if you don't have any inside information, just looking at the pattern in Hollywood, the pattern with all these different stars, and obviously they take a different tactic with each different star based upon whatever they can exploit or whatever they can sort of smear or slander.

Speaker 2 Like it was different with Michael than it was with Prince and Brittany and Ye. And now Justin, they are attacking what they can attack.
And

Speaker 2 once Justin's...

Speaker 2 close, you know, circle started coming out and telling people what was really going on, it became very apparent that the smear tactics being used to sort of pathologize Justin and to make his fans worried about him and give him this kind of like manufactured crisis.

Speaker 2 It's the exact same pattern.

Speaker 2 And I mean, it looks like the kind of thing that they're doing every time someone threatens them or someone that is very powerful or important or influential tries to get away from them.

Speaker 2 And in some ways, I think that the Justin one is almost more targeted because it's not, he's not going after the whole industry.

Speaker 2 It really feels like this one is kind of Scooter specifically taking personal offense to what's going on here. And Scooter kind of got trapped in the middle of this deal with Hybe.

Speaker 2 So I think that it's sort of a case where you have a specific,

Speaker 2 I don't want to say mobster, but someone that's sort of feeling.

Speaker 3 Discuss a bit about the deal with Hyde.

Speaker 2 So Scooter was hemorrhaging his client. Scooter's very well known in the industry for not being, shall we say, the nicest guy to work with or for.

Speaker 2 He's great if you're working for him and he... and you're making him money and you're making him fame and success.

Speaker 2 But over and over, artists throughout his career have left him and said that he's great until he doesn't need you anymore and then you're discarded.

Speaker 2 And he had lost all of his artists, including like Ariana grande for example the taylor swift drama and justin was like his last big name and he sold his whole business ithaca holdings to hive which is the k-pop company which is very uh like the korean mafia of music um and i'm pretty sure that was in 2021 that predates this kind of justice world tour fiasco where justin's face was paralyzed and justin you know incurred all this debt.

Speaker 2 So it kind of feels from my perspective that I'm assuming that Scooter kind of saw the writing on the wall and was trying to to move out of this position of managing talent because no more talent was with him and into this executive role.

Speaker 2 And he managed that and he sold what he had for a billion dollars to Hybe. And this company, Ithaca Holdings, was like making less than 200 million a year in revenue, I believe.

Speaker 2 So it's like they're selling it at this crazy high valuation. And presumably that's because it includes the future perpetual rights to Justin Bieber and his brand.
Interesting.

Speaker 2 Okay, I didn't even look at this. And so, yeah, so this Hybe sale, this Hybe deal is critical because it happens before the Justice World tour.

Speaker 2 Justin then goes on this crazy, more than a year-long world tour where he happens to get COVID at the start of it. And then he happens to get an injury that looks an awful lot like a vaccine injury.

Speaker 3 And his wife also had the, yeah, she had a brain clot.

Speaker 2 Exactly. And he winds up with half his face paralyzed, can't continue.

Speaker 2 And so.

Speaker 2 I'm not super clear on all the specifics because I don't have any like files or anything. It was just what I was told about the situation.

Speaker 2 But apparently the tour was booked out on advances, which is not uncommon for the industry, as far as I'm aware.

Speaker 2 But with such a big tour, we're talking hundreds of millions, at least tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars advanced.

Speaker 2 And so when he's partway through this tour and then can't continue, suddenly there's a whole bunch of debt that's been incurred that's not getting paid back.

Speaker 2 And obviously, then Justin goes to his management and is like, so we have insurance, right? This is no problem. We have insurance for this kind of a thing.

Speaker 2 And allegedly, what then was told to him is that, no, you broke your contract. So there is no insurance payout here.
You actually have to cover this debt.

Speaker 2 And so Justin's management, whether it was Scooter technically at the helm of this or his other managers that were at the helm of this, that management team managed him in such a way that the most popular pop star, like one of the most popular pop stars in the world.

Speaker 2 got saddled with hundreds of thousands of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of debt on a tour that they had mismanaged and that he had had a like all of these things reflect on the management and how poor their management style is and are things that if scooter was really a good manager this would never happen to your artist because he's supposed to work for the artist he's supposed to be like the number one manager in the industry so that all happens in the middle and justin is trying to get out and scooter's on the hook for a billion dollars worth of value like he's promised a billion dollars worth of justin bieber's future to this korean company which he's now on the board of And so I feel like Scooter's in the lurch because suddenly Scooter can't deliver on this billion dollar promise that he's made.

Speaker 2 And Justin's trying to escape from that promise because he hates them all. And they're still trying to control control him through his other company.

Speaker 2 And so it's just, it feels to me like everyone is sort of trapped in

Speaker 2 bad ideas that are sort of leveraged to the hilt in terms of how much money is involved and how many promises are involved.

Speaker 2 And it all revolves around Justin continuing to produce music, which like anyone who's had a kid or a creative in their life knows that no creative dude like Justin is going to be producing hit singles if he hates you and you're trying to control his whole life.

Speaker 2 And so it feels like we're seeing not only these smear campaigns to try to get him back in line coming from Scooter, but it also feels like we're seeing Justin kind of acting out because he has no power.

Speaker 2 He's in secret litigation.

Speaker 2 They won't let him open a new clothing company. They won't let him like profess his faith in God or they're slandering that.
So it's just, it's messy in every direction.

Speaker 3 It's really interesting because it also makes you just revisit everybody in the past. that has kind of gone through a similar thing, a similar cycle.

Speaker 3 And what's really the tell is just the way the paparazzi suddenly takes a picture of them and they're doing kind of nothing.

Speaker 3 And then suddenly they're trying to spin a picture of any person. Like if you just have like a resting face, miserable, exhausted, on drugs, this, that.

Speaker 3 And it's like, you could take anybody out of context and say this. And especially someone like Britney Spears, I kind of go back to the breakdown and how they just had the paparazzi hounding her.

Speaker 3 And I wonder if she was similarly trying to take ownership of her life and trying to leave. Because the reality is, is you can't get into these contracts as someone that is that young.

Speaker 3 Even if your mom says like, yes, thumbs up, we can do this. And suddenly you maybe perhaps want to relitigate that when you get older.

Speaker 3 And from what I heard from, and I'll tell you exactly who it was, actually Courtney Love. I actually have had some conversations with her.

Speaker 3 And she was saying to me that publishing in Hollywood is just one big gang and they will own all of the publishing rights one way or another. And I go back and I think about what Michael Jackson said.

Speaker 3 I go back, I think about what Prince said, and I'm looking at Justin Bieber and I'm like, is this what this is really about?

Speaker 3 Is you are literally not allowed to take anything out of Hollywood with you when you go.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. I mean, we know full well, not a secret, that Hollywood and especially the music industry was founded by the mob and the mafia and the

Speaker 2 music industry specifically. You can like look into the exact mobsters that are famous for having been the sort of founders of this model.

Speaker 2 And then you can look at the history of the industry and see how they've always treated their artists this way and they've always embezzled money in these ways and laundered money in these ways.

Speaker 2 And there's no evidence that it ever stopped but there is evidence that the same tactics are still being used and to the paparazzi thing justin just posted he's been doing it more and more but he just posted on his instagram a couple days ago a video of himself trying to walk out of his place with haley and the paparazzi the way they are there and i can't help but suspect like is that kind of paparazzi attention always around every star or is it only there when someone wants to smear you yeah and they said they said the then they put pressure on you exactly and my pr person said that he was like nobody nobody does paparazzi anymore.

Speaker 3 He's like, it's just a different era. People have cell phones.
And he's like, and so when you see that, it is because somebody is calling and paying someone. That's not paparazzi.

Speaker 3 That's just stalking someone and trying to drive them crazy and pretending it's because they're famous. I think we have the video actually of what he posted onto his Instagram, Justin Bieber.

Speaker 2 Watch out.

Speaker 3 And she's going to leave your house here.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and Haley's right behind him. He's going to see her in just a second.

Speaker 2 Watch out, John, watch out, watch out.

Speaker 3 Crazy. Look at these guys.

Speaker 2 And if you look at these dudes' faces, they don't look like creatives. They don't really look like the kind of people you expect to be paparazzi photographers.
Yo, watch out. Very harassing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the idea is really just to drive people crazy because they can't get a moment in privacy and to make them have that breakdown.

Speaker 3 It's interesting because we're actually...

Speaker 3 I've got all these books that obviously I'm planning to read for my book club. And the one that I'm really excited about, we're reading Hollywood Babylon.
So we're talking about that.

Speaker 2 People need to know. If anyone's not in the book club, you should join.
That book is crazy.

Speaker 3 That's crazy about the founding of Hollywood, the gangs, the amount of people that they killed, the amount of people that died.

Speaker 3 And the fact that the media today tries to like debunk this book is incredible because it tells you like the media has always, you learn in this book, the media has always been a part of this organ, this gang organ, which we're obviously all very much aware of.

Speaker 3 But the next book we're reading, and this kind of pivots and gets into, because we're seeing it in politics as well, is like this classification of a person as crazy if they don't get in line.

Speaker 3 It happened to me last year. It's like I went from totally just being an amazing, oh, she's got so much potential, she's amazing, to like, no, actually, she's suffering postpartum psychosis.

Speaker 3 And the second book that we're reading is called The Assault on Truth, fascinating book. And Skyla, you can bring this up.

Speaker 3 We spoke about this in Book Club, but I'm going to give this also to the public, written by this guy named Jeffrey Masson. Jeffrey Masson was this Harvard graduate, psychoanalyst,

Speaker 3 Jewish guy. And I'm telling you, he's Jewish because it's relevant because they can't just go, oh, he's anti-Semitic.

Speaker 3 And he

Speaker 3 got his dream job working as an assistant director at the Sigmund Freud Archive Center. So he worked under Sigmund Freud.
This is the father of modern psychology, right?

Speaker 3 He worked under Anna Freud at the Sigmund Freud Archive Center, and he was next in line to become a director. So Jeffrey said, you know what?

Speaker 3 I'm going to learn German so I can read all of these papers that haven't been released to the public. It's an archive center.
So they get access to things that we weren't allowed to see.

Speaker 3 So he learns German. He's reading through Sigmund Freud's work.

Speaker 3 And he suddenly realizes, like, for those of you that have never studied psychology or don't know a little bit about Sigmund Freud, if you're listening to this, the relevant portion is he just did a lot of work about children and sex and kept basically, like when he first came out, he said, like, you know, children are being molested by their parents.

Speaker 3 And then he did a complete 180 and like went back on his seduction theory and was like, actually, these kids are attracted to their parents.

Speaker 3 And this was kind of one of his biggest things that he established. He was very interested in children and sex.

Speaker 3 And he reads through his documents and he said, Sigmund Freud had proof that these children were being molested by their parents.

Speaker 3 And he hid it and gaslit them and created modern psychology in the psychoanalytic movement to gaslight people and to figure out how you could gaslight people by just diagnosing them when they were telling the truth about something.

Speaker 3 So this book, and you can go down to that section, Skylar, if you want.

Speaker 2 Yeah, wow. I never knew it was in a book.
I could buy and reach out.

Speaker 3 So he then, this guy was thinking, once I ring the alarm on this, the entire like mainstream media is going to want to cover the fact that Sigmund Freud was a fraud fraud and he was covering from a bunch for a bunch of parents who were like molesting their children and it turned out that they all turned on him he ends up in like a 10-year lawsuit i think this is recent the 80s and 90s oh yeah yeah this guy this guy is definitely still alive yeah and so he has he was supposed to succeed him as the director of the sigmund freud archives after his and anna freud's deaths um and then he rings the alarm he starts speaking to anna and he's like everyone's going to be so happy that i'm like ringing the alarm and saying that actually the father of modern psychology is just the father of modern gaslighting.

Speaker 3 And these kids, he had actual clinical proof that these kids had been molested. Crazy.
Okay. And so what ends up happening is the entire mainstream media smears him, libels him.

Speaker 3 He ends up in a 10-year defamation lawsuit as they try to smear him as like a crazy person. And he's like, I just did everything right.

Speaker 3 And so to be able to bring this book is so relevant because I always say you got to go back to the beginning to understand these tactics that they have been employing because Sigmund Freud, his family, the Bernays family, then becomes the father of modern propaganda, Edward Bernays, who did the World War I, the World War II propaganda to make Americans hate Germans, to make us eat breakfast.

Speaker 3 Like, I mean, tons of things that Edward Bernays did. That was his nephew.
And they still, and they also control today modern PR.

Speaker 3 Like the biggest PR person in the world is like Matthew Freud, who's his like great-great-grandfather. And so it's super important.

Speaker 3 And so when I see these tactics and you get to like now, obviously we should have talked about like this random report from Jordan Peterson that like everyone disagrees with me as a psychopath.

Speaker 3 You just go like, okay, we're still, this is what the psychology community actually,

Speaker 3 that's what he is. He's a professional, professional psychologist.

Speaker 3 And when you don't get what you want or the public isn't doing what you want, you're supposed to just call them crazy and gaslight them.

Speaker 2 Devilishly intelligent.

Speaker 2 It's such a, it's such a smart tactic, especially in Hollywood in the music industry, because you have all these people that you have every case to make that they might be crazy.

Speaker 2 And some of them actually, like, obviously, obviously, like when you go through trauma, if you're an Epstein victim, or you go through trauma because you're a child star and you were probably molested or drugs or whatever it is, then it's very easy to make the case that they might be crazy.

Speaker 2 But time after time after time, you notice that despite what their mental state might be, The FBI investigated Michael Jackson for 10 years and did not find any evidence of the allegations as one example, right?

Speaker 2 And he was very clearly a threat to the music industry. So they keep pathologizing people over and over.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he was getting ownership.

Speaker 2 Exactly. I just know this because I watched your video.

Speaker 3 Michael Jackson was actually getting ownership, owned the Beatles catalog, and they just moved. And they were like, actually, he's a pedophile.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And the father of modern psychology taught this. So when you see that someone is majoring in psychology, this is, it's such an important book.

Speaker 3 Cause I know that obviously you're signing up for the major. I'm not accusing you of co-signing this because we don't know the sources of any of these things.

Speaker 3 We think of Sigmund Freud and we just hear he's great. No, this guy was a professional, professional gaslighter in chief.

Speaker 2 When I first heard about Sigmund Freud's, like his whole theory in, I think, middle school, it rang some bell. It was like, this is not right.
This is weird.

Speaker 2 Like, I've never, the whole Oedipus complex thing, like, it just does not pass the sniff test, even as a child, as an adult.

Speaker 2 Nowhere in between does that pass the sniff test if you're anywhere normal at all.

Speaker 2 So it's kind of crazy that they got away with it passing the sniff test for so long that it's taught in like normal mainstream colleges and universities and community colleges.

Speaker 2 And no one's asking any questions about this. That is pretty weird.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And there's so much more that like

Speaker 3 about him like wilhelm fleece by the way if you want to look up this guy wilhelm fleece fleece is spelled f-l-e-i-s-s this was sigmund freud's best friend um and according to this guy jeffrey mason also his lover um you know and he

Speaker 3 he similarly molested his son and so he was seeing all of these people wilhelm fleece's son is robert fleece and robert fleece came out and said that he was molested by his father so there was an entire psychoanalytic community of disgusting people, and they created a social science because that's what psychology is.

Speaker 3 It's a social science to see if you could gaslight people about their experiences. So it was the first thing that came to my mind when I was like, is Jordan Beach just trying to gaslight me?

Speaker 3 And it produced a report and people that were like, he didn't name names. He literally named my name not only in the report

Speaker 3 for saying Christ is king, which I'm like, you're going to pretend I became a Christian.

Speaker 3 My first book was published in 2018, and I wrote about my biblical upbringing with my grandfather and included biblical quotes all throughout. You're not gonna gaslight me about my Christianity.

Speaker 3 I've declared Crisis King my entire life.

Speaker 3 But to see that method of someone who doesn't declare Crisis King, believes in psychology, believes in his own like

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Speaker 2 No, he doesn't even believe in his own rhetoric. I mean, clean your room, Jordan.
We've all seen the clip of Jordan's room. Like, you know, raise your kids in a way that's like, eh,

Speaker 2 there, there's, and I mean, I don't even want to go into the other things that Jordan, like pathologizing you, the healthy Catholic woman that's raising, you know, soon to be four kids, versus pathologizing Jordan,

Speaker 2 it's not a comfortable conversation to have once you start looking at it, you know, clearly. And it's so backwards that he would try to pathologize you in his shoes.

Speaker 3 And what's crazy is like a psychopath is Ted Bundy.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Like Candace Owens is Ted Bundy.

Speaker 3 Candace Owens' Jeffrey Dahmer is a bit of a stretch. And it's kind of funny.
And I don't care. And I'm pretty happy about this stuff.

Speaker 3 And I think that's kind of one of the things this newer movement, now that we have access to information and we kind of know that all the experts are BS,

Speaker 3 it doesn't make me feel heavy. It makes me feel light.
Like we can stop believing in this burden of the idea of the expert.

Speaker 3 But I wanted to show people this because it's important to see how often they do this, where they just call us all psychopaths if we don't do what they want.

Speaker 3 Skylar, can you bring up the article of Trump supporters being psychopaths, like female Trump supporters? And it's the exact same language.

Speaker 3 Female Trump supporters exhibit slightly elevated subclinical psychopathy study finds. And it goes into, again, the dark triad, the dark tetrad of traits that they have.

Speaker 3 Then there's like the science direct one during COVID. I think I put a link in there.
Let's check this one out here too,

Speaker 3 where they COVID-19 prevention behavior is differentially motivated by primary psychopathy narcissism and vulnerable dark triad traits. Like this is what they do.

Speaker 3 It's like, if you don't do what we want you to do, we will accuse you of being a psychopath. And it's like, dude, I just want to see my grandma during COVID.
And I kind of like Trump.

Speaker 3 Like, is it, am I a psycho? Like, I'm not Ted Bundy.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Or just like, I want to believe what Anthony Fauci himself said about masks three months ago at the start of COVID.
And now

Speaker 2 I just want to believe what he said about herd immunity three months ago. in official statements and then suddenly it's the opposite

Speaker 2 but i'm a psychopath for all that and and i think that during covet we got a certain flavor of getting over trust the experts and a lot of people woke up to the fact that like these health experts can be controlled but now the douglas murray thing the jordan peterson thing and everyone that's been in between there i think it's kind of waking us up to oh wait it's like oh it's it's all experts it's not just those ones it's also those ones and also those ones and it's not just the ones in the white house or in you know that kind of field it's also the ones that are coming on our podcasts it's also the ones that are going out and doing media appearances.

Speaker 2 And I think people are starting to wake up to the big picture.

Speaker 3 And I think the big picture makes us ask questions about what is university really about, right? What is university actually about?

Speaker 3 And it is a way to just indoctrinate people into these, these various cults of understanding, you know, believing in their own expertise, but not even knowing where their expertise like originates from.

Speaker 3 And that's why I said going backwards and speaking about Hollywood, reading these books, these old books, or, you know, reading this newer book from Jeffrey Mason, where he kind of goes back and he just tells the truth.

Speaker 3 I just read Sigmund Freud's own pieces of paper

Speaker 3 and in his own studies and his own journals and his own diaries. And he still got gaslit and called all of these things and had to fight for his life and his reputation.
And I feel blessed.

Speaker 3 I don't know if this guy haven't reached out, but that I can finally give a platform for this man who fought such a noble fight to expose the entire field of psychology.

Speaker 3 But what are we to think of the fact that they knew this and Sigmund Freud is still celebrated in our universities, Ian.

Speaker 2 The thing that I think immediately is: if you look at the timing there, it's like 1890s, 1900s, kind of like turn of the century, like the Gilded Age, the Industrial Revolution is peaked.

Speaker 2 And it's, we're talking, that's the robber barons, you know, the found, the Federal Reserve is about to be founded. Like, that's the J.P.
Morgans of this world.

Speaker 2 That's the, if I'm not mistaken, the Carnegies and the Vanderbilts.

Speaker 2 That is the era of sort of like this peak wealth disparity, like disparagement between this upper class, this lower class, but very tight media control.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, most people are still illiterate. Most people, there's certainly no, there's not TV or any kind of information dissemination yet.

Speaker 2 So they existed in a world where you had these extremely wealthy elites doing Lord knows what, that they would need people like Sigmund Freud explaining these things, right?

Speaker 2 And they're getting on the train where the European trend of central banking and funding wars from both sides and stuff was pretty well underway by 1900, but they hadn't yet gotten the Federal Reserve.

Speaker 2 So we're in this era where the powerful elite of the world, these globalist elites of the world, like they were at the top of their game and about to perform their greatest coup d'etat of all time, which is the Federal Reserve.

Speaker 2 So I'm just looking at the timing there of when Freud kind of gave them this nugget. And I'm not surprised that he's protected.

Speaker 2 And I'm not surprised that he got built into all those Ivy League institutions because they had so much power and control at that time.

Speaker 2 And it was a time when they, like, if you look back in history, some, there's some eras, like the Iran-Contra era, where the deep state clearly fumbled the ball multiple times.

Speaker 2 But then there's certain eras where the deep state, whatever groups are in there, clearly were nailing it. And like

Speaker 2 the 1900s to 1930s era is, let's just say, they were really on point.

Speaker 3 And what's interesting is that all of these perverts actually came from the same region.

Speaker 3 Like their origin stories, and I'm really pointing this out in our Hollywood Babylon reading is like, as we keeping, you keep speaking about these founders of Hollywood, the founders of movies, the father, you know, these founders of propaganda, they all came from like the same region in Eastern Europe.

Speaker 3 And it was at a time where they were trying to overthrow Christian empires.

Speaker 3 I mean, you and I spoke about this even with like LBJ's family, like LBJ's family, they were the 1845ers left, you know, trying to overthrow Germany. It failed.
I think it was the 1845 revolution.

Speaker 3 It might be 1848 revolution actually of Germany. It was like all of these communists were trying to overthrow these Christian empires.
The Russian Tsar gets assassinated.

Speaker 3 And then all of these Eastern European,

Speaker 3 I would say, like, I'm pretty sure Sigmund Freud was the kingdom of Galicia, his family's from. He's a Galician Jew.
And they come over to America.

Speaker 3 And the kind of the story that we're told is, oh, everyone just came with the clothes in their back and like made it big in Hollywood or made it big in modern psychology.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, no, America was a young country. We were very like susceptible to all of these things that, like you just said, that we didn't understand.

Speaker 3 But there is so much more here that meets the eye.

Speaker 3 And it's only through actually engaging and reading these books that would never become movies, these books that you are not allowed to read, that you can truly understand like what's happened in this country, because we all recognize that something's not right.

Speaker 3 And a huge piece of this is psychology. What is the modern media? What was MKUltra?

Speaker 3 Why did the CIA invest in journalists? It's all about controlling our minds.

Speaker 3 And they think that all you need is an expert to get up there and tell you something's psychopathic or someone's crazy or someone, you know, Britney Spears needs to go on a Psych 5150 hold or Kanye is talking about Christ and he's got to go on a Psych 5150 hold.

Speaker 3 And we need to be like, no, what was this person trying to say that you have suddenly made me think they were totally fine for 20 years? And suddenly, like, no, Michael Jackson's like wacko jacko.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I mean, Hollywood Babylon is a perfect book to highlight that because they don't really focus on where people are from, but they do clearly focus on the moral degradation of America through Hollywood and how those Hollywood executives knew what they were doing and were doing it intentionally.

Speaker 2 And they were, it was illegal. Like the things that they were publishing were so morally reprehensible to the culture that America used to have that they were illegal.

Speaker 2 And they actually had to like slow walk it over time.

Speaker 2 And you can see in that book how different American morals and virtue used to be and how it slowly was degraded through movies and music and propaganda, psychology.

Speaker 2 And now we wind up with this world today where like, like.

Speaker 2 on your Twitter feed is the OnlyFans girl that the two OnlyFans girls, they're having this horrible competition that I don't even want to talk about because I hate how people platform them.

Speaker 2 It's like just in our normal lives all the time.

Speaker 3 But that is what we were speaking about last time, about pornography being a spiritual weapon. And this was literally imported over to America.
And people need to understand that.

Speaker 3 It's like Hollywood introduced these concepts, and it was a war with this Christian culture that they wanted to collapse.

Speaker 3 And I would say, probably, you know, by the time you get to the 1960s, is when they really kind of started proliferating that pattern.

Speaker 3 And that's why that book chaos is just amazing because you realize they've always been into these weird sex cults, even Hollywood Babylon, telling you that these directors who came from Germany would protect the sets and like make them have these sexual orgies as they were creating films about Babylon, about you know Egypt.

Speaker 3 And so there is sort of

Speaker 3 this underbelly of a demonic religion is really what I took away from this book because, and we talk about this in my book club a lot, but what did they believe in?

Speaker 3 What do you actually, what are these people? This is, these aren't Abrahamic faiths. This is not Judaism.

Speaker 2 I mean, they speak clearly about their hate for Christianity. Yes.
And their disdain for Christianity.

Speaker 2 And a lot of those communist revolutionaries in that 1900 era were explicit that their goal was to overthrow Christian religion and Christian nations.

Speaker 3 And it was successful. I mean, the most assassinations of like the king of Italy, I think it was Umberto I.

Speaker 3 He, the person who assassinated him was motivated by Emma Goldman. I was speaking to you about her.

Speaker 2 That woman. That whole rabbit hole.

Speaker 3 That whole rabbit hole that flies under the radar that introduced feminism to America

Speaker 3 by like controlling Margaret Sanger. Everything that we know about our history is totally fake.
And it really does make you wonder if we are living in the Matrix.

Speaker 3 Like when you see this stuff, you're like, wait, it is totally plausible. Nothing is real.
The media is not real. You know, Emmanuel Marcron being president isn't real.

Speaker 3 They can just pull people up, pluck them, make them leaders, give them degrees, and make you think these people are experts. And your entire life is being guided by them.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, I think we are living in like the Matrix. Like this is totally, reality is not what it actually is, but people seem to be like waking up now suddenly.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like, this is the kind of report, like these types of stories are the ones that do make me genuine, genuinely question, is there some sort of Illuminati conspiracy going on here?

Speaker 2 Because a lot of days it's easy for me to fall back into the like kind of mundane conspiracies of like, yeah, that corporation is conspiring with that one and that that billionaire is conspiring in that one thing.

Speaker 2 And all that does happen. But when you look at these bigger pictures, like the gender ideology stuff, communism stuff,

Speaker 2 you know, the control of Hollywood and the music industry, those are the places where it does really, like there is actual evidence, not just, it's not just harebrain theories. It's like evidence.

Speaker 2 And when you look at it happening over and over and over again across many generations of musicians, many generations of music stars or sorry, movie stars, it, that, that is not the kind of thing that is evidence of one little conspiracy or group.

Speaker 2 That is the evidence of a large control mechanism somehow operate, like a cult or a mob or

Speaker 3 both.

Speaker 2 Secret society, like call it what you want.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's, it's one of those things when I, um, um, before I got baptized Catholic, I just remember that one of the priests said that to me in English.

Speaker 3 He was like a very ornary English priest, and he was like, He literally said to me, like, you Americans know nothing about your own history. You know, like every America was founded by Freemasons.

Speaker 3 And I was just like,

Speaker 3 and I'm still reading, you know, I'm still reading. And I don't know.
There's actually a book that I'm reading right now that I can't wait to get, like, to finish.

Speaker 3 It's, it's called The Secret Founding of America. Already, my mind is blown.
Like, everything we even know about the Mayflower, we are just one big movie that we have been watching.

Speaker 3 And if you don't do due diligence by yourself and you have the public education system, and you, the worst part is you think you're educated.

Speaker 3 So if you got all A's, you take pride in the fact that you got a degree. And that's the problem with all of these degrees is that it

Speaker 3 sort of artificially inflates your ego. It's like one of the first lines of attack is like, you don't even have a degree.
You don't even have, you know, he doesn't know anything. He's not an expert.

Speaker 3 And the reason for that is because they have to keep people in that artificial bubble of thinking that their degree means something.

Speaker 3 Because what the degree actually means is that you have completed a course in your own miseducation.

Speaker 3 And it not only is your own miseducation, and we made you pay for it.

Speaker 2 How like, how completely crazy is that?

Speaker 2 Going into debt is different than paying for it.

Speaker 2 Create fake money that didn't exist before, that you don't have, that you're going to be paying off for the next 20 years, the rest of your life, whatever it is.

Speaker 3 With psychology, you're going to be a failure if you don't go to college. You don't go to college and learn about feminism and this and that.

Speaker 2 But they will repackage your debt and collateralize it and then make money off it four ways till Sunday while you work to pay it off. Right.

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I feel like we're already in a lot of trouble. So that's great.

Speaker 3 We'll just keep going because, you know, just keep talking about all the things that we're not allowed to talk about.

Speaker 3 And I, one of the things that drives me crazy is when they take out these clips out of context. And

Speaker 3 even when they write the articles, you're like, Candace Owens says Sigmund Freud. I'm like, Sigmund Freud protected pedophiles.
I'm like, I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 Like the director of the Sigmund Freud Archive Center said this, who worked under Anna Freud and read his work. And even just that little piece of removing something,

Speaker 3 it tries to make us all sound like we're crazy. Bingo.
Why do they do this? Because they need people not to get to the source, not to get to the truth, but it's not working right now.

Speaker 2 It's not.

Speaker 2 And it's the only thing they really seem to have in their arsenal is either censorship, shut it all down, or try to play on that sort of brain barrier they've built into everyone they've educated in terms of like, you can't listen to that person, they're a kook.

Speaker 2 Don't listen to Candace, she's a psycho. But the problem is that they only have to hear you once in your original form.
And toward, like, they just have to hear more than 15 seconds.

Speaker 2 And then suddenly the next 10 seconds, they go, wait a minute. She, you didn't share that other part that she said where she gave the source, right?

Speaker 2 And ironically, often people in our shoes are so much better about sharing our sources because it matters to us, A, because we care, because it's the right thing to do, but B, because our livelihoods are on the line.

Speaker 2 And if you don't share your sources, you're in big trouble. Whereas the mainstream media rarely shares their sources.

Speaker 2 And often when they do, like Politico is famous, my favorite thing about Politico is they'll share their sources and it'll be a link to other Politico articles.

Speaker 2 And you'll just go in little Politico circles around from article to article without any actual primary sources anywhere. It's all fluff.

Speaker 3 That's what I say. It's just all fluff.
It's all made up words. It's one big circle jerk.
It's all of them just saying, we're the experts and we've just said this. It's what do you have to do?

Speaker 3 You just have to make a report and say, I'm a doctor and I have a PhD. And so I'm saying that this person's Ted Bundy.

Speaker 3 And the thing that really bothered me like about the psychopath classification is I'm going, wait a second, that indicates that I have like violent tendencies.

Speaker 3 Like, what have I done in my life for you to be able to just go out there and be like, you know what? I'm just going to call this person violent.

Speaker 3 You know, this person could potentially rise to violence because she's declaring that Christ is king. Completely nutty.

Speaker 3 But something that I really loved was I really loved Tim Poole's response to this. And why I loved it is because Tim Poole is like, you know, the guy in the beanie, right?

Speaker 3 Who's running a podcast with like a skateboard studio.

Speaker 3 And he just sees, cuts right through the Jordan Peterson BS of pretending that we're all too stupid to recognize what you're doing with now trying to diagnose people who simply disagree with you, who have a different perspective than you.

Speaker 3 So let's just show that Tim Poole clip because I thought it was actually pretty awesome.

Speaker 4 The problem is that four to five percent of the population, something like that,

Speaker 4 is

Speaker 4 cluster B, B, that's the DSM five terms, histrionic, narcissistic, antisocial, psychopathic, or they have, and they have dark tetrad traits. They're Machiavellian.
Oh, they're not.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry, dark tetrad. I said triad.
I was wrong.

Speaker 4 That's about 4%. Okay, so the question is, how do these people maneuver? And the answer is they go to where the power is.

Speaker 4 And they adopt those ideas and they put themselves even on the forefront of that. But the ideas are completely irrelevant.
All they're doing is they're the Pharisees.

Speaker 4 They're the modern version of the Pharisees. They're the people who use God's name in vain, right?

Speaker 5 Okay, let's pause real quick because

Speaker 5 that's him basically saying Candace Owens, okay? So I've got the tweet from, let me see if I can pull it up here.

Speaker 5 Here you go. Jordan Peterson tweeted, Candace Owens is a true pharisa pretender.
She vociferously proclaims her devotion to Christ for no other reason than to evaluate her perceived status.

Speaker 5 Her outrage is designed not to shout the truth from the rooftops, build bridges, or make peace, but to subvert Christianity itself with its new force to her own purposes.

Speaker 5 She is literally using God's name in vain. There are few more unforgivable sins.
Jordan Peterson says, Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites.

Speaker 5 You are like whitewashed tombs, which appear beautiful on the outside, but inside are full of dead men's bones and every kind of filth.

Speaker 2 Oh!

Speaker 2 Yo!

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 This is some kind of like inter

Speaker 5 factional beef.

Speaker 5 When Jordan Peterson mentions the cluster B, dark tetrad individuals, they go to where power is. That's the corporate press right now.

Speaker 4 That's what all of that was.

Speaker 5 The reason why they're marching in lockstep, the reason they're lying is because they're not there to seek truth. They're there to seek power and influence.
I work for some of these organizations.

Speaker 5 The reason people get jobs there is because they want the platform to get followers. They want to be famous.

Speaker 5 They tell you things like, I always wanted to be a muckraker, like Nellie Bly. I wanted to be like her.

Speaker 4 You're like, oh.

Speaker 5 So you're looking for vanity and attention. Okay, that's a a bit unfair.
If you want to emulate good behaviors, that's fine.

Speaker 5 But typically, for a lot of these people, they are not saying they wanted to do the good work. They're saying they wanted that position and reverence that came with it.

Speaker 4 They proclaim moral virtue. Yes.
Doesn't matter whether it's right or left or Christian or Jewish or Islam. They invade the idea space and then they use those ideas as...

Speaker 4 false weapons to advance their narcissistic advantage.

Speaker 4 And so then you have the problem, and the right's going to face this more and more, particularly, because the left had to face it when they were in power.

Speaker 4 How do you identify the psychopathic parasites, 4% of the population, who are clothed in your clothing?

Speaker 2 Not naming anything.

Speaker 5 No. Did Omi just call Candace Owens a psychopathic parasite?

Speaker 2 Come on.

Speaker 5 Look, I tweeted at this clip saying, Dr. Peterson, like, who are you referring to? He called Candace Owens a Pharisee, a Pharisee pretender.
He's in the Lord names in vain.

Speaker 5 He then does this segment, this bit. They've got this document he put out.
Yo, he's literally calling her a psychopathic parasite.

Speaker 3 Timple just like read him his rights right away. It's like, dude, what are you doing? Like,

Speaker 3 just have the courage at least to just at me and call me a B-I-T-C-H.

Speaker 2 I can deal with that.

Speaker 3 I'm a big girl, but like trying to dress it up in a report and use your like psychology degree to do it, all because you're upset. Because it, like, I must have been working on this since I was a kid.

Speaker 3 Because, like I said, my first book just recounts the entire story of how my grandfather insisted on us doing biblical study every morning at breakfast and how committed to his faith he was.

Speaker 3 And so, I must have been like so committed to this game that I started it when I was seven years old with my granddad.

Speaker 2 That's why you're so good at it, really, is because I mean, in order to be a real, what is that, pharisaical pretender, uh, parasite, um, you know, you got to get them started young.

Speaker 2 And I just love how he uses so much jargony, jargony baloney

Speaker 2 to say, you know, essentially what, like, like, I'm not saying that Jordan is doing that, but he, he sure is getting close to the sun where we're having discussions with sources about what we're seeing in the news the way that our like journalists are supposed to do.

Speaker 2 And now we have a psychologist weaseling his way in there to get into the discussion and say, like, oh, stop talking. Like, you're psycho, you're psycho, you're a parasite.
Shut it down.

Speaker 2 I have big words. It's like, okay, bro, you're not a part of this discussion because we're talking about stuff over here with sources.
Do you want to talk about the facts?

Speaker 2 Do you want to call us a liar? Like, do you want to, do you want to discuss the evidence that we're talking about or just call everybody names?

Speaker 3 And I'm, by the way, and that's the thing, he's too above us to just be like, you know what? She pissed me off. Take off your hoops and just say some mean stuff to me.
I can deal with that.

Speaker 3 Like, that's totally fine. Just don't dress this up like you're above an ad hominem attack and you've like thought about this clinically and psychologically.
Like it's just a different time.

Speaker 3 You know what I'm saying? Like it's just a different time.

Speaker 3 Like the Gen Zers are not going to go for this the millennials everybody's waking up and we're just we can smell it as soon as you drop it like that's why i love tim pool just destroying this in a beanie like bro we saw your tweet like two weeks ago now you're on a tour saying the same thing and but the only thing that tim pool gets wrong is he like i don't know if this is some factional beef it's not there isn't any factional beef i have no i jordan jordan if you are watching you can come sit in this chair i i think it really just goes down to me being able to see through it you know and i think that when people feel seen and people can, oh, she just called me out for kind of like not living according to how I tell people to live, it kind of makes people go into a bit of a spiral.

Speaker 3 But I don't have any beef. I want Jordan Peterson to be the person that he writes about in his book.
I want him to be an example to young men. We need more examples to young men.

Speaker 3 It's not personal for me. It's just not personal for me.

Speaker 2 And I think that a lot of these people that are, you know, continuing this gaslighting campaign, both the ones in front of the screen and probably the ones behind the screen, I think a lot of them are probably older people.

Speaker 2 And I think a lot of them don't understand, A, the exact power of the way social media really does spread and the way that people really do.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't think they realize how much better the audience of young people is at reading comments and at checking the like ratios and at checking the reposts and at like getting the whole side of the story.

Speaker 2 I don't think they realize how much they're failing at this because they actually don't know how to use the medium anywhere near as well as the audience does.

Speaker 2 And so they're just continually blundering and blundering and blundering.

Speaker 2 And Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson are just two examples, but they are stark examples of these sort of like kind of dinosaur-y neocons trying these outdated tactics that really just make you look better.

Speaker 2 I know. Thank you.

Speaker 3 I was like, I'm like, I'm not clothed in anything. I can barely fit anything right now.
I'm due this week. I'm doing four days.
I'm not trying to wear anybody else's clothes. Okay.

Speaker 2 And for like how much of a ride you've been on and how big you've blown up, you're like one of the least narcissistic people in this entire industry.

Speaker 2 And I've met a lot of people in this industry by now. And, you know, a lot of them are great, but there are some narcissists in this industry.
And you're definitely not one of them.

Speaker 2 You're super chill.

Speaker 3 I just like, I just genuinely just want to have fun and talk about ideas with people on the internet. And I feel so remarkably blessed.
You know, I have a husband that loves me.

Speaker 3 I have children that I'm literally obsessed with. I think they're just like the most adorable people in the world.
And I want people to find that happiness.

Speaker 3 And I, I really do think that it only comes from not looking to the external world for approval. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like actually knowing that I have things that can't be taken away from me and to lay your head in the pillow every night and know that you're just telling the truth.

Speaker 3 And if you get it wrong, but you have the humility to go back. And I've seen you do this and I do this.
And I go, you know what? I said this. And that was actually not right.
So I want to update that.

Speaker 3 And I'm just so happy that we're moving into that energy, that like the mainstream media is failing, the experts are failing, and people are angry about Ian Carroll.

Speaker 3 Like I love when I watch people go on like an Ian Carroll angry spiral because I'm like, he's so happy and he doesn't care about this. He's going to keep making videos.

Speaker 3 You're literally being triggered by a guy whose TikTok says, yeah, not an expert, but interested. Like you're interested.

Speaker 3 And people appreciate that.

Speaker 2 Just trying to learn stuff and have fun. And yeah, like Douglas Murray calling, like trying to pose to Joe that I was an expert.
My literal Twitter bio says, not an expert in anything but sarcasm.

Speaker 2 And you're so right that I'm, it's, it's water off your back.

Speaker 2 And you said something really important that I, I want to highlight is that when you have like love in your human relationships in your real life with real connections with real people that fill you up every day, the internet is just a game that you play on your phone and it does not matter.

Speaker 2 And I think that unfortunately America is so full of people without love in their immediate life, without real connections, without marriages that are happy, without parental relationships that are happy, that a lot of people actually are missing real human connection.

Speaker 2 And so the internet becomes this stand-in for human connection, but the internet is especially X is made to feed off of hatred and anger and arguments.

Speaker 2 And the algorithm is really good at feeding you angry arguments too. And so so many people get turned into rage bots when they really are a good person in their own heart.

Speaker 2 They just don't have anything filling their heart up to help them stay in that energy.

Speaker 3 And it's why I think people need God. I really do.
I think people need God and it's like you just need to fill yourself spiritually with something else. But like I said, it's been a really nice pivot.

Speaker 3 I'm trying to make predictions for Hollywood because you and I were kind of saying before we went live that there's so many pieces that are coming together at the exact same time.

Speaker 3 And it's beautiful because it is bringing together the left and the right, which we never thought was going to happen ever. And that's why I had been obsessed.

Speaker 3 And I know you don't know much about it with this Blake Lively case, but what is at its core is really kind of the end of Hollywood.

Speaker 3 It's realizing that the people that we put up on these platforms are not good people, that these are the people that are egotistical and maniacal and just want to get their way and care so much about that positive feedback from the audience.

Speaker 3 They're willing to do or say anything.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 you probably know just a little bit about the Blake Lively case, but it followed a little bit. It was not a publishing thing, by the way.

Speaker 3 It's like just wanted to destroy this guy, Justin Baldoni, to take his movie. Anyways, she's been doing press

Speaker 3 for her next movie, which is A Simple Favor 2.

Speaker 3 And because we got to watch, I mean, what was so unique about this case was we had a woman who made an allegation being Blake. And if you read it, it sounds horrific.

Speaker 3 What she says was done to her on set. You look at Justin Baldoni and you go, he must be like

Speaker 3 basically close to being a rapist. Like, if you just read her complaint,

Speaker 3 then they dropped the footage of the moment. That's what, that is what is so unbelievable, Ian, is that we got to actually watch her quote unquote

Speaker 3 sexual harassment. And it was just the exact opposite of what she said happened.
And that is what has outraged people.

Speaker 3 It's because the New York Times gave us a vision, she gave us a vision, and then we got to see the thing. And people were very frustrated.

Speaker 3 So, she recently appears at this gala and over the weekends, because she got honored by Time gala uh for being a wonderful person for donating to black lives matter in 2019 it makes no sense but a very good protein city's got a burn and so how she tries to get out of this pr is she brings her mom to this time gala to and she gives a speech about how her mom was like sexually assaulted or raped

Speaker 3 like it was just gonna cripped off of somebody else's incidents and i just want to play a little bit of her speech because i just didn't even know what to make of this pr PR move: like, okay, I maybe got caught making stuff up, but let me tell you about what my mom lived through in the 80s.

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Speaker 3 Ian, your thoughts, this is just a PR move I've never seen. It's like I got caught with my pants down lying.

Speaker 3 And so I'm just going to kind of grift off of, and like, you know, I have obviously, like, if that happened to her mother, that's terrible.

Speaker 2 It's awful.

Speaker 3 I'm glad her mother survived it. But this is the PR move.

Speaker 2 It could be the wrong strategy. If you get caught being a like fake rape accuser, essentially, maybe don't go grifting off of other rape situations.
Like Jesse Smullet just is like, you know what?

Speaker 3 I got caught with this fake noose in the subway sandwich, but let me tell you about my great uncle.

Speaker 2 He was the victim of racism.

Speaker 3 He actually, let me just hold his hand right here.

Speaker 2 I'm only here today to be the fake victim of racism because

Speaker 2 my great-grandpa was really a victim of racism. That's so bizarre.
It's bizarre.

Speaker 3 It's a bizarre PR move to be like, I'm just gonna gripped off of somebody who actually did survive something because I got caught with the Subway sandwich and the noose in the Arctic Chicago weather.

Speaker 3 And my name's Jesse Smollett, but I know people who actually did get lynched or

Speaker 3 I do have black friends. It feels like that.
Like it feels like I have black friends kind of a moment here.

Speaker 3 And I just couldn't believe. I'm like, this is what I mean.
They don't get that the public is not going for this. Like the public can just see through this.
Again, nothing personal against her mother.

Speaker 3 Like, I'm sure her mother lived through all that. And like that, but it's just, what?

Speaker 2 Well, it's also like from a technical standpoint, it was kind of a confusing telling of a story because if I heard her right, it was that her mom had heard an account of a survivor.

Speaker 2 And then during an abuse situation, her mom was in that other accounting, had inspired her mom to, it was a, it was a confusing story a little bit.

Speaker 2 And so from like a storyteller's perspective, as you know, as we are people that communicate for a living, I was a little lost on what actually the story was and what the gala was not about.

Speaker 2 Was the gala about rape at all?

Speaker 3 Nope, the gala, she was being honored for giving money to, this was also weird and confusing, for giving money to BLM when she gave it really as a hostage because people were mad at her because she got married on a plantation.

Speaker 3 Awkward. And so

Speaker 3 she gave money to BLM and the woman was like, we're honoring her for time now.

Speaker 3 And then she brought her mom and spoke. I mean, the entire thing is just the public is stupid.
We're going to get out of this one. Don't worry.
And you're not.

Speaker 3 Like, let me tell you guys, I don't care who you are. Just tell the truth.
We are very clearly in the age of just tell the effing truth. Okay.

Speaker 3 Well, we'll take it. Whatever it is.
I swear this could have been done months ago. All she had to do was be like, you know what? I was just, I was tripping.

Speaker 3 I want Blake just to be like, I was tripping. Yep.
And I'd be like, I respect that. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 I respect that.

Speaker 3 I was getting, you know, women, we get a little cray cray.

Speaker 2 I mean, Brigitte McCrone would have done well to do the exact same thing. Listen, Janice, I'm sorry.
I was tripping. I know I kind of like married my nephew, allegedly, but I was tripping.

Speaker 2 That would still have been a better move than what they did. I was tripping.

Speaker 3 I don't even know why I married my nephew like that. And I'd be like, it's, you know, I'm glad you were at least here.

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We're already up to an hour, which is crazy. I could talk to you forever.

Speaker 3 People want to know what the schedule is going to be, when you're going to be taking over for me. They want to know when I'm having this baby, when I'm going to be back.
Guys,

Speaker 2 baby's already here, yo. You didn't hear him?

Speaker 3 They just, yeah, he's right here. He's right here.

Speaker 3 Guys, babies decide when they're going going to come. I have no control over this.
I'm not scheduling an induction. I'm just going to let this little dude decide what he wants to do.

Speaker 3 But, and hopefully, it's an easy birth. And so I'll be back whenever.

Speaker 3 But, Ian, they want to know your schedule, what days you're going to be covering, and like anything you can tell us about the topics.

Speaker 2 You're not allowed to swear.

Speaker 2 Oh, I can. There's no swearing.
I used to.

Speaker 3 Remember, I'm being a fake Christian. So, you know, my psychopathic.

Speaker 2 No, I can be a fake Christian too, Candace. I can do it.
I mean, my fake earpiece is falling out. So

Speaker 2 I'm like, I need to pull out my calendar to make make sure I get the dates right.

Speaker 3 I think it's May 12th, is when you start.

Speaker 2 Yeah, May 12th is the first day I'll be here.

Speaker 3 Do you say 10th, Skyla?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, May 12th is that Monday.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 we'll probably be doing three episodes a week. And if I'm really crushing it and keeping up, because you work hard.
You guys put out a lot of shows. And I mean, it takes a lot of research and such.

Speaker 2 So if we're crushing three days a week, we might move up to four.

Speaker 2 But, you know, you said a high bar. And so then I'll be here until you need me to be here, right? And I've got a few.

Speaker 3 You might just like it so much. I keep them here forever.

Speaker 2 It's pretty sweet here in Asheville, and it's pretty sweet to work. Your team is awesome.
But yeah, I'm scheduled to be here for up to eight weeks, give or take.

Speaker 2 And, you know, if something goes crazy, I'll be here until you need me. And if you're ready to come back early, then you'll come back early.

Speaker 3 And if he has like a super exciting topic, I'm going to jump in, obviously, for random stuff. I was telling him, even I'm beginning to look into like the Idaho 4, Brian Coburger stuff.

Speaker 3 So he in dangerous combination. I see why they hate us.
I actually totally empathetic about, you know, I'm like, you know what?

Speaker 2 We are just so interested.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's rough being on Team Live. Exactly.
They're lying

Speaker 3 and they hate us for telling the truth, but I'm definitely going to pop in occasionally. I will be keeping up the book club, so don't worry about any of that.

Speaker 3 Guys, I'm going to get to some of your questions and comments that you guys are rolling in before we get out of here. Brittany Douglas writes, happy early birthday, Candace.
That's right. Tomorrow is

Speaker 3 my birthday. And I'm hoping it's also my birthday.

Speaker 3 So let's hope that this little guy just makes an appearance tomorrow on my birthday. I will be turning 36 years old.

Speaker 3 And this person writes, 89 babies are the best. That is true, but not Taylor Swift until we see our text messages.
We cannot confirm if the 1989 babies are the best, Ian.

Speaker 3 Uchicha Itachi, I love this, okay, writes, the question is, what will we do if Justin suddenly dies? Man, you just went there. Uchicha just went there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was trying not to get that dark in there.

Speaker 3 We're like happy and light. No, we just, they didn't expose us.

Speaker 2 To be fair, I think that now that we're all reporting on it, I don't think they can go there.

Speaker 2 Like there is a certain element where, as media figures, we can run run protection for these people and we do and we should um that would be pretty obvious harley don't harley pasternick if you're watching we're not buying the bathtub story okay

Speaker 3 maybe don't send him away to la la land it's all no la la land okay or it's not going down harley harley so chill out sarah writes cannice tell them about the netflix freud connection sarah's in the book club also the freud uh family started netflix whoa yeah crazy i'll get you the guy's name actually Actually, you're going to look that up.

Speaker 2 Talk about mind control. Holy moly.

Speaker 3 Yes. So it's all modern media and it's been the same family for.
Oh, he's already pulled it up. My producer is so much faster than me.
So embarrassing. Mark Bernays Randolph.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 He is the co-founder and the first CEO of Netflix. And he is from the Freud family.

Speaker 3 So see there it says one of Randolph's paternal great-granduncles was psychoanalysis pioneer Sigmund Freud.

Speaker 2 You learn a lot in the early lives.

Speaker 3 And Edward Bernays was his great uncle. And so these are, that's what I'm trying to tell you.
It's like they've been in control forever.

Speaker 3 And so when you see these, you know, Netflix is doing a deep dive on something, you really got to ask yourself, oh, well, are you guys going to do a special on Sigmund Freud? We're going to go there.

Speaker 3 They got a lot of power in media. They've always had power in media and they've had power in terms of shaping our minds.
Sarah, love you from the book club. Bloop.

Speaker 3 That's a great name too, writes, Candace. Oh, Candace's electionist today.
It's actually Canada.

Speaker 2 Candace Football. Narcissistic.

Speaker 2 Probably a psychopath.

Speaker 2 What are you going to do?

Speaker 3 Dark triad just became me, and I just said that I was being elected. It wasn't me.

Speaker 2 It's hard to keep the act up. Sorry.

Speaker 2 Canada's election.

Speaker 3 The Freudian slip.

Speaker 3 Canada's election is today. Please pray for us because of your content.
I've started to notice the media push propaganda worldwide.

Speaker 3 Side note: I'm a black woman who used to hate you, and now I love you. I love you too, girl.
I love you too. Don't worry.
It's okay. I say I'm an acquired taste.
I get it.

Speaker 3 I feel like I was even that way for my sisters. I don't think they were sure about me until like I was like eight, you know?

Speaker 2 Especially early on. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, you were saying some uncomfortable truths all along.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm acquired. S writes, Candace can't watch as exams are coming for me.
Have an amazing leave and hope everything is blessed.

Speaker 3 I hope you know you guys have woken up the masses that people are aware of these world leaders and blind extremist ideologies. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, TikTokers going through grocery aisles, which is how Ian started, which is why I really enjoy the conspiracy theories about him. I'm like, guys, no, he's been around.

Speaker 3 He's just been in grocery aisles. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I've been looking at all the tampons trying to figure out out who owns the tampons and the fruit loops.

Speaker 3 And yeah, he's been doing work. You need to go back and look through his catalog because it's actually super interesting.
I've just banned red dyes from my house.

Speaker 3 I'm getting a little cray cray about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 3 Oracle writes, any thoughts on the death of the Pope during the Passover sacrificial hour? I think there's a lot of deep meaning in a lot of the things that are happening. Change

Speaker 3 respectfully, obviously, like pray for his soul. I genuinely just, I am just a shift.

Speaker 3 There's just vibes or, I just feel like there has just been a real shift is what I would say about the Pope passing. Misty writes, all of society is set up to separate us from nature and God.

Speaker 3 Our homes, jobs, clothes, and food are all synthetic. Very few jobs are absolutely essential to keep society going.
Everything else is entertainment to distract from our God-given life.

Speaker 2 Yep. Not only to distract you from your God-given life, but to fill up the hole in your soul that your no longer God-given, like no longer godly life leaves you with.

Speaker 2 It's like sell you this like drug or this distraction or this gluttony or whatever it is, you know?

Speaker 3 Yeah, people really loved when you were speaking about pornography the last time you were on here. If you want to like reiterate what you were saying about it's an epidemic.

Speaker 2 It's an epidemic in our culture. And the thing about it is that everyone's uncomfortable to talk about it.
Cause like 98% of men, I don't making up statistics, but like.

Speaker 2 Basically all men are in some way watching it and don't and like, you know, a huge portion of them are in some way addicted to it and don't want to talk about it and it's uncomfortable because like no one's proud of it really and if you are proud of it maybe you should examine that um and women don't really want to talk like no no one's really in a position to bring it up and so the men on the internet kind of have like like someone's got to bring it up right and and it's it's it's awkward for everyone that should be talking about it.

Speaker 2 And it's only not awkward for the people that are like in it, that are part of the problem.

Speaker 2 So it's, I think it's just inherently a conversation that we're going to have to have because now parents are realizing like how ingrained this is in their children's digital space in their media space and if you don't start talking about it if we don't start talking about how to protect our kids from it i don't want to know where our world goes it's they're getting everyone addicted to something early and pornography is a big piece of that puzzle because what is pornography to a 10 year old boy right is is like just watching a woman holding a gucci bag with her boobs out

Speaker 2 it's one of the the ones you can get young men addicted to without having to put something like in their mouth or in their body or in their clothes.

Speaker 2 Like what it's, you just have to put a billboard up and suddenly, you know, put an advertisement on, put it in their Instagram reel.

Speaker 2 And every single boy is forced to contend with, oh, I can just get free this in my phone infinitely forever. And especially that

Speaker 2 biological need that arises out of your own hormonal structure.

Speaker 2 And if you don't have a moral and like, it's really a religious framework to protect you from that sin, for lack of a better word, that desire, then you're going to fall into that trap somehow.

Speaker 2 And it's only more effective. We have robots coming.
We have AI generation coming.

Speaker 2 And so like we're in a very disconnected world. And that just spells disconnection all the way to the max.

Speaker 3 And it's really tragic. You know, Michael E.
Jones, who is on the ADL's list for being Adolf Hitler, he was on, he was Adolf Hitler before I was Adolf Hitler. So he's like a log for everything.

Speaker 3 Exactly. But he did a whole book on the origins of pornography, talks a lot about the French Revolution, even where the word sadism comes from.

Speaker 3 And it's fascinating to learn that and to know that. Again, we don't know the origin stories.
We just know that it's here.

Speaker 3 So I don't remember what the name of his book is because I'm very bad with book titles.

Speaker 3 Libido Dominandi, yes, Latin.

Speaker 3 And that is a good... place to start as a man, I think.
And woman, by the way, women are dictated to porn too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's just a different kind of temptation. It's a different kind of grappling, right? And it's and like men, all men growing up, you have to deal with that in your life.

Speaker 2 Your kids, your young boys are going to have to deal with it. And you, as a man, have to deal with that.

Speaker 2 You have to figure out, are you going to let this trap, like let this thing take part of your sovereignty away from you and part of your masculinity away from you?

Speaker 2 Or are you going to realize that it's your responsibility to decide your relationship with it instead of letting it decide its relationship with you? And it's just, it's not easy.

Speaker 2 Like everyone gets it. It's, it's not easy.

Speaker 3 I mean, you just have to start talking about it too. Like, it's not easy.
And you just got to try to overcome it.

Speaker 3 It is one of the weapons that, you know, psychological weapons that have been intentionally afflicted on American society.

Speaker 2 But as more men deal with that, that will help free young women from thinking that this is what every man wants.

Speaker 2 And it'll help free young girls from growing up in a world where they think they have to sell their bodies in order to be high quality.

Speaker 2 Because nowadays we have this world full of men that don't want to address their side of that equation, but they do want to like, I want to marry some like trad wife girl that's like perfect and has never had sex with any other men.

Speaker 2 Like, bro, are you living up to that standard right now too?

Speaker 2 That's the conversation none of these like, you know, manosphere people want to to have is like, are you the trad husband that goes with that trad wife?

Speaker 3 That's such a great, such a great thought. I love that.
See, that's just why I'm sad to leave. I can't believe this is my farewell episode.
It makes now I'm just sad and crying. You'll be back.

Speaker 2 So long. Farewell.

Speaker 3 Last person says, thank God you're looking into the Idaho 4 case. It has never made any sense.
We'll miss you, Candace. I know that is going to be just like moms.
We're just, we, you know what?

Speaker 3 Cause we were just so shaken by the idea that this could happen on a college campus. And then they gave us like no details and nothing really made sense.
They kind of locked it down.

Speaker 3 And somebody involved reached out to me and I will be looking into that while I am on maternity leave. And if I find anything, I'll jump in and I'll get Ian down the rabbit hole.

Speaker 3 Ian are just going to be under, we're just going to be in rabbit holes. Like we're just going to be in backyards, like jumping into holes.

Speaker 2 So this is

Speaker 2 my mom.

Speaker 3 This podcast is just going to become like this.

Speaker 2 We're going to make some people mad. Yeah.

Speaker 3 By the way, Ian, I need to link, guys.

Speaker 3 He also, while he's doing this, we will be driving traffic to his YouTube channel because he is just starting his YouTube channel and he does not have nearly as many followers as he should have.

Speaker 3 So every episode, we'll be linking it. I will also put Ian's YouTube channel in this episode as well.
Go support him. Go support independent thinkers.
The rumors about him aren't true.

Speaker 3 He's actually pretty broke. We're not funded by Qatar.
I'm trying to be, I would like to do like a Qatari airline commercial or something. I don't know if you're watching.
watching. I don't know.

Speaker 3 I get these accusations.

Speaker 3 Nope, none of that's true. So let's help and support Ian in any capacity.
And so check that out on the link. And then you guys, I also want to remind you, I will be on Minect, M-I-N-N-E-C-T.

Speaker 3 If you want to send me a message, I can answer you. That's something that I will be doing on maternity leave.
Also, the book club is the next way that you can reach me.

Speaker 3 Obviously, we will still be keeping that up. CandiceOwens.com.
Sign up for the book club. The books are amazing.

Speaker 3 They will terrify you, but you will also be more well-rounded and I think just impervious to the media because you will know exactly what it is, which is one big game of demonic psychology.

Speaker 3 Ian, anything that you would like to add before we are out of here?

Speaker 2 No, I just really appreciate it. And I'm just praying for a healthy birth for you and everything to go smooth.
And I'll be back here today.

Speaker 3 You're praying, you psychopath.

Speaker 2 I know, right?

Speaker 2 All these Pharisees out here.

Speaker 2 And all y'all, I'll see you guys in a couple of weeks. Once I'm done in Austin, I'll come out here and we'll have a good time.

Speaker 3 So fun. 42,000 watching live.
Thank you guys so much for joining us. And we will see you.
He will see you on May 12th.