What Does Israel Have On Donald Trump? | Candace Ep 224

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Netanyahu expected to push for plan to 'occupy' Gaza, Homeland Security gaslights us by denying tying FEMA funds to Israel stance, and Milo Yiannopoulos joins me for MAGA's funeral.

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All right, you guys, happy Tuesday.

I am joined by Milo Yiannopoulos.

You want to know why?

Because it feels like a MAGA funeral.

We are both wearing black.

A lot has happened in the last 24 hours, really honestly, since Trump reassumed office, and it's time to talk about it.

And at the end, you do kind of want to go back to the beginning.

Welcome back to Candace.

No, he didn't.

He was fantastic.

All right, you guys.

So there's a long backstory.

We have so much we actually need to talk about, but I want to suspend that for a later episode because I actually contacted you weeks ago saying, Milo, I want to have you on.

Wanted to go through the history.

Yay.

But for my audience, my newer audience, and these are people that are on the left.

And now I think we're all kind of coming towards the middle and realizing that everything is corrupt and fake and gay.

I want to let them know you're actually kind of a piece of my backstory.

I didn't know you, but when I was a liberal and on the left and found myself falling down the hole, meaning I realized actually I agree with conservatism and I kind of like Donald Trump and I was kind of scared to say that as a black person in America, I found your writings.

You were a Breitbart and your writing was excellent and you were talking about the ills of modern feminism.

You absolutely blew up.

And I would say that you are original MAGA, meaning I think of you, I think of Steve Bannon, I think of all of these people when the whole world was like Donald Trump will never become president of the United States.

You guys.

We didn't agree.

We did not agree.

There were about seven of us when the rest of the country was afraid even to admit who they were voting for.

And who would you say were in that original MAGA group?

I think of you and Steve Bannon.

And Mike Cernovich would be a little bit more than that.

Absolutely, Mike Cernovich.

I think that

even Baked Alaska was there up with us front row in

some of the talks.

My buddy Pizza Party Bannon, if people remember him from

if you were a little bit more online at that time.

And, you know, really, it was a very small group.

I would say Stephen Molyneux, who's just got back to Twitter, who's

sort of a, I guess he's an online philosopher, I guess you would say.

You know, really, it was a very small group.

And I got a compliment from

somebody high up in the campaign in 2016 that I think was excessive.

I don't think it's fair.

But, you know, he said, oh, you're one of the seven people who put him in office.

I said, come on, grow up.

But what I think he was getting at was that at a time when even Americans were afraid to to admit who they were voting for, although they did in huge numbers,

there were, you know, seven or eight or nine of us or whatever, who were out there every day

saying, it's okay, even if you don't admit it to your wife, do it in the booth.

And fortunately, we did persuade them.

And so, yeah, I mean,

I was there when he came down the golden elevator, which other people kind of saw in retrospect.

And

I sort of, at that time, I was kind of, what is going on here?

This is exciting.

This is interesting.

And then when he came out and said, um, why were you there?

You were there when he came on the escalator.

How did you get there?

I was invited by a friend

who said, I think you're going to want to come along to this, somebody who works at a hedge fund.

And at that time, you know, if he was sort of vaguely somehow connected to the Trump organization or maybe

whatever, people kind of had an idea that Trump was going to do something, right?

Because he'd been trailing for many years that he was going to run for president.

And people sort of, he's going to make an announcement of some kind, either that he is or he isn't.

And so a friend of mine invited me and said, You probably want to be here for this.

And it was the kind of person that only says it when they mean it.

So

when he started to speak in that unfiltered, extraordinary way about immigration, and in that announcement, when he right out of the gate said

something along the lines, you know, they're not standing their best, the Mexicans, rapists,

that, oh,

this is the guy that people have been waiting for that is going to speak like they do.

This is the guy that they've been waiting for that is going to

speak directly, plainly, honestly, persuasively, and in that demotic mode,

in the manner in which we speak to each other over the kitchen table

about the things that are freaking them out.

And nobody else is going to do it.

All right, I'm in.

And for most of the last nine years, I have been.

That's correct.

And I think that's definitely what drove me toward him.

I liked the fact that he spoke what felt like he was being very honest.

He understood how to speak to a blue-collar worker to say,

look around you, look at the roads.

You've got immigrants coming in.

Your jobs are being taken.

And I'm going to fix it.

Build the wall was the chant.

Notoriously, that was a reflexive thing, didn't he?

That atavistic understanding of the working man.

And we thought to ourselves, well, he's a construction guy, isn't he?

So he's been on building sites his whole life and he knows how to talk to people who lift and stack and make things for a living.

Right.

And it was very exciting.

Yeah, it was exciting.

And so you supported him, presumably, through the first four years?

I did.

And I, you know, a lot of people who supported him and did a lot for him weren't necessarily recognized for it in the first administration.

But I think that the

supporters, like me, you might say, more colorful,

hard to handle maybe, kind of supporters fall into two brackets.

You've got the people who are just desperate to be next to him at all costs, even if it's not the right thing for him.

And then those of us who are content with the victory and happy to chill.

So I never really made much of an effort to kind of engage with the administration the first time around.

By the same token, they didn't really, you know, whatever.

A lot of us in the same boat.

And that wasn't such a big deal.

But

I think that many of us felt that first Trump administration was not exactly all that we were hoping that it would be and not really,

not really what we were expecting from candidate Trump that time around.

What would you say?

Because I honestly think I was still very much asleep.

And you're correct.

I remember Ann Coulter.

She was someone who very early on supported Trump.

And then she sort of said, this is not what I wanted.

I got into it.

You did.

Okay, yeah.

She said, This is not what I wanted.

And then they had a meeting, by all accounts, they had a meeting in the Oval Office that did not go well.

And unfortunately, I don't think they got on particularly well, which is a real shame because I think Anne has a reasonable claim to having written the manifesto for his first

victory, which is Adios America.

And what do you think changed when he got into office?

Or I guess what were you disappointed in that first term?

We didn't see much of the campaigning Trump.

We saw a lot of the old

business as usual Republican Party,

you know, tax cut bills passed and this, that, and the other.

And

it didn't feel like what we were building up to.

It was almost sort of, it was anticlimactic.

It was

almost as though, you know, we had this, I mean, I walked into the Trump victory party on the evening of the election in 2016.

And everybody in there was ashen-faced.

There wasn't a person in there who believed that he would win, including him,

except me, a friend of mine, Mike Ma, and two other guys that I brought with me.

And we were like,

and we looked around and the room was, it was like a funeral.

Not dressed as snazzily as we are today.

But

I didn't understand it.

I was like, what's wrong with you guys?

Like, you know, he's winning, right?

When the New York Times has to put out a poll that says that Hillary's got a 98% or a 96% chance, you remember that, of winning, you know, that's like they're in real trouble.

And nobody got it.

The president himself was, you know, when he was spotted, was looking like he just wanted to get the evening over and done with and go home.

When he won,

I think everybody sort of caught up to the excitement and realized that actually, oh, maybe, maybe my vote did make a difference, you know, back at home.

But then the administration, it didn't seem to deliver on any of the promises.

We didn't really get any movement on borders or

great victories against

universities.

At that time, I remember that we would all been talking a lot about

campus rape culture and the gender pay gap.

These are the sorts of things that people were talking about then,

all of which had been exploded and

exposed and discredited.

But all those people still seemed to remain in power.

And all those institutions didn't seem to be losing very much by the fact of Trump being president.

In fact, if anything, they seemed to be doing quite well fundraising while he was in.

And he wasn't really stacking up the victories that we were expecting.

So I think I don't think I'm alone in saying that first Trump administration was

something that left us all feeling deflated.

I would say when I examined that, I always thought it was so unfair because he was constantly fighting.

I mean, I just every single day, I think most people assumed that, okay, you fight, you win, now you're the president, now the media is going to want to applaud you and want you to do well because you're the leader of the free world.

And that wasn't the case.

I think for the first time ever, it was every day they kept the pressure on new scandal, this scandal, this person's coming up, this person's saying this.

And I think that probably surprised him before he could even properly become accustomed to being the president of the United States.

He was constantly having to fight everywhere.

So I was able to excuse that because I feel that we were very much a part of fighting that.

We were fighting the media with him, fighting the fake news media with him.

This time, though, fast forwarding to today.

He kind of disproved that with the second administration, right?

Because he came in all guns blazing with a crack a team of crack troops you know he came in with his with his praetorian guard um and it was something that some of us had been saying you know we we saw it in action you can just turn around and say

and you know get on with it um and and and he did and so that you know if anything left us feeling a little bit more robbed about the first administration because it's like we we we we we we to do this hard work to get him in the first time it was not easy to persuade americans that this was a realistic proposition I mean, I mentioned I had to persuade Anne.

I mean, I mean, I really had to persuade her.

She was very upset by what Trump said about Ted Cruz's wife, for instance.

And now we would kind of barely think twice about a comment like that from Trump.

But at the time, it was just not the sort of thing people expected to hear from a presidential candidate.

So, you know, those of us who were out giving speeches and the rest of it, we were doing a lot of work behind the scenes as well, doing the best that we could to kind of get the people we knew had a lot of firepower, you know, behind this.

But we sort of robbed of progress there and then robbed of a whole election after that.

Thank goodness

we thought at the beginning of this administration, things now seem to happen to be happening.

Things are getting done now in a way that they should have been the last two times.

At least that's what we thought.

I don't even, I genuinely am trying to process what's happening with this administration.

Obviously, this is Israel.

We have been infiltrated by Israel.

I'm wondering if maybe we were always infiltrated by Israel and we just weren't paying attention.

But the first remarkable fumble, and this was shocking to me because Trump,

generally speaking, has good social skills and is able to read a room correctly.

I would say that, right?

For him to come out and say, why are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

Because you're still on it.

I don't want you as supporters.

That I just go, is somebody tweeting for him?

Do they have something on him?

Is he actually sweating bullets?

Because the Trump that I know is smarter than to try to gaslight his supporters.

So

what is your read on that when he did that?

When he said, so here's the thing.

The grand

pedo theory or whatever, this idea that there are elites wielding extraordinary power in the shadows using

evidence against each other of whatever who have we're,

this is not a conspiracy theory.

This is how every civilization in human history has become at the end, at the late decadent period, just before things collapse.

It is not unusual or crazy or right-wing or

lunatic to say, I kind of think there might be a secret cabal of like powerful pedophiles running the world.

That's exactly what happens in every empire in history.

It's what happened in Rome.

It happens in all of them.

So it isn't weird or strange that people would imagine that might be happening now as our civilization looks as though it may be crumbling.

So it's not weird to think that.

It was also a central plank of marga it's why it it's why 2016 happened it's one of the three or four things that made 2016 happen this idea that the democrats in particular although probably we didn't want to know too much but you know or maybe we did but uh you know probably some people on your side too but but most of the democrats uh celebrities politicians the rest of it um were in cahoots with uh people like jeffrey epstein

doing backdoor deals,

not passing laws or

not running institutions for the people, but rather for their own enrichment, engorgement, and power.

And they all also happen to be wrapped up, if not in outright pedophilia, at least in sexual degeneracy and so on and so forth.

And this is kind of a rump of people at the top of society, the elites, who live basically beyond consequence, who live free from worry about the terrible things they do, things that would end the life of anybody else, because they are insulated by this,

you know, by the world in which they live and everybody looking out for everybody.

That That strikes me as a demonstrable fact of reality and not necessarily anything too great.

So

this is a plank

along with the border and a few other things, free speech, that become the motivating

social energies behind 2016, why it happens, right?

Why Trump is possible at that moment, why people are open to voting for somebody so unusual in politics, why people were prepared to take the risk.

Epstein is the key that unlocks the secrets, the secret architecture of our world, the way in which power is structured and operates over all of us and

for its own benefit and for the enrichment and engorgement and protection of a couple of people.

He represents in one person.

Everything that we worry about, that we fear, that we strongly suspect is happening and that we're probably right about.

He's a symbol for all of it.

And

for Donald Trump, who we had previously assumed was somebody who just got us when nobody else did, to turn around and say, I don't understand why people are going on about this.

I think it's just bad people,

my former supporters.

If you're into this, I don't want your support.

When I heard that, my response was very simple.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, mine was a bit more

explicit.

It was, I just was like, I said this to Tucker Carlson a few days ago.

I would have preferred you saying, F you, nana boo boo, you can't touch us.

We have so much power.

Because then I and I would have appreciated the honesty.

I would appreciate the honesty, but gaslighting us, like going back to this Sigmund Freud.

Pretending he doesn't know.

Pretending you don't know.

Don't know why we're upset.

You fully know why we're upset.

You fully know why this matters.

In fact, it was your administration, people that you've now put in your administration who have communicated the importance of Jeffrey Epstein.

Whether we're talking about

you did it.

You did it.

Your sons did it.

And so there was just this moment where I wasn't just frustrated.

I was angry.

I was actually angry.

And then the stupidity, which is required for supporters to believe when Pam Bondi then looks over and says, we don't know if he was working.

Come off it.

Wouldn't you rather than they just say FU?

I would prefer that.

Yes, you're right.

You're right.

It's more respectful to just say FU.

It is.

And at least, at least with FU, you can say, well, there must be a lot going on.

I'll talk to you when you calm down.

At least there's an opportunity to circle back and to forgive and

to assume that something must be going.

It's like, you're going through a lot.

You know,

something, something.

Give us something to cling to, but no, cold, calculated, repeated.

I don't want you.

Okay.

This was a betrayal not just of his supporters, their priorities, and

his own promises,

but

it was an attempt to deny one of the reasons that he got elected in the first place and pretend that it didn't exist.

And this is a level of lie, a level of audacity that is so disrespectful and so outrageous and so extraordinary that it leaves you wondering,

all right, what have they got on you?

What's going on?

There was something about the gaslighting, too, that for me felt very academic.

And what I mean by that is, just in my life and my experience, you find these people who believe so much in their degrees, right?

We rule over you because I have a master's degree in this and I'm smarter than you.

And I think credentialism.

Yes, credentialism without question.

And I will tell you right now.

The blue-collar people are smarter than them.

Okay.

These people would die if they had to go out and hitch a tent in the forest.

Literally, they wouldn't be able to survive on basic skills.

They would even do a middle-class job, be a travel agent.

They wouldn't be able able to do any of this stuff, right?

Common sense is so much more admirable.

And when he said that, he basically looked at people who have common sense, right?

Who recognize what's happening.

They maybe don't hold the degrees of, you know, you're ilk people that graduate to, you know, from U Penn and their sons go to U Penn, but they know what Jeffrey Epstein is and they know what Jeffrey Epstein was.

And so he lost.

And they know he didn't kill himself.

They know he didn't kill himself.

And so he lost something that was almost magical about him.

Again, like the ability to be a person that comes from this class of people, but to be able to speak to the blue-collar worker, to the middle class, he lost that.

He suddenly became one of them in that moment.

I agree.

And in a sense,

he

took a steaming pile of, you know what,

on his legacy, on his supporters, and

the

underpinning assumptions that he was voted in office

on the basis of

he denied who he was.

He didn't just lie to us.

He didn't just deny us.

He denied himself too.

That betrayal was a betrayal of his own movement, of his legacy.

This was to say, Trumpism was fake.

It's not real.

It's all crazy.

You're lunatics.

I'm the president.

Shut up.

That was a betrayal of his own

place in history.

Now, let me ask you.

That's why it's so unforgivable.

What could move Trump to portray himself?

That's what I'm interested in now.

Now it's the why.

What does Israel have on Trump?

Is it Israel?

I think it's Israel.

It's an interesting leap to make, but

not really.

Because the last 48 hours, the last 56 hours

have been the worst,

you know, to the extent that I, you know, I've had a life in public life, been the worst couple of days of my life.

to see somebody who, you know, and I had a bit of a wobble in 20, whenever it was, you know, I'm not going to lie about that.

You know, and I've even

served other candidates for high office, you know, in the meantime.

But, but, you know, I began and thought that I would end my political life, or at least, you know, the extent to which I'm in public life, with Trump.

And certainly, you know, was excited about that.

You know, you see people like Stephen Miller on TV and you're like, yeah, you know.

But to hear him in the last few days, and this is why I think you're maybe right about that country, to hear him say in the last few days

that um

that he you know that that or or to get the message that um his administration was going to deny um uh disaster relief funds to states that don't um uh uh do whatever uh you know uh to take to to you know to the insufficiently um uh um

if you're boycotting israel if you've got

hit by a hurricane if you got hagandal's in the fridge instead of ben and jerry's you know you're screwed um like that low and then the same day, after having, you know,

committed treason in the morning to commit genocide in the afternoon

by saying,

or by giving an indication that Israel would be fine to go and just annex Gaza, a place where they're not.

Which is what Miriam, and by the way, just so everybody's clear, they're also going to take the West Bank.

Miri Adelson came to him and said, no, we're not taking Gaza.

We're also taking the West Bank, and we want you to look the other way.

And here's $100 million.

So they're currently going door to door and traumatizing people that live in the West Bank, right?

Palestinians that live in the West Bank.

And Trump is pretending he doesn't know that's going on and now

penalizing Americans who should rightfully be outraged that we pretend we're the leaders of the free world.

You know what I mean?

Everybody should want to live like us.

So we've got it all figured out.

We have so much high morality.

And yet you look at what's happening in Gaza.

And all of our politicians do not have the stomach to say what is so obviously true.

And what is obviously true is that by the time this is over, Netanyahu's Israel will have eclipsed Hitler's Germany by many, many,

many, many counts, morally speaking, and probably by the numbers too, because the way that that country is behaving, you know, it's the kind of thing that

people are like, all right, come on, calm down.

But no, I mean it.

The

manner in which they are exterminating innocent children.

No, it has eclipsed it.

Somebody showed that they were using this measure, like, you know, Israel and their propaganda was using this measure for October 7th, saying this is the equivalent of, this would be like, by rate, killing this many people

for Gaza.

And they were like, that would be the equivalent of murdering 44 million Americans.

If Mart Levin can go on television and say that losing, you know, 300 IDF soldiers is the equivalent of 3,000 American soldiers, I think perhaps we'll take the same approach to mathematics.

And now they're not doing that, that approach to mathematics anymore.

Yes, yes, they've said that.

But interesting, isn't it?

The outcry to both, and the one that Trump rolled back and the one he didn't.

He rolled back the

Zionist virtue signaling,

meaning, okay, fine, let's cut that bit out

of the Homeland FEMA terms,

which they then tried to pretend.

Oh, yeah, let's actually show that.

Let's actually, because they think we're this stupid again, he just thinks everybody's so dumb.

Unbelievable.

But they actually had the language on the DHS website where

you were going to be denied the funds.

And I'm just trying to see which line this is on on the left hand side is that the Israel oh here it is yeah it says

with companies doing business in or with Israel or authorized by license by or organized under the laws of Israel to do business discriminatory prohibitive you can't boycott these companies then they just delete it and they actually went on Twitter and tried to gaslight the public

full Zionist now they're like we had it on the website we're going to disappear from the website and then we're going to say what are you guys talking about we never had that language You know what's that?

Homeland Security is now getting

notes added on X for lying.

Readers added context.

They thought you'd might like to know.

This is misleading.

DHS terms and conditions only now removed the section stating boycott means refusing to deal, cutting commercial relations, or otherwise limiting commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies.

That was the language.

They removed it.

And the Homeland Security had the nerve.

to pretend that it wasn't there.

That is extraordinary.

That's the one that they rolled back because that's the one that actually doesn't really matter.

It's offensive.

And

if it had been carried through

if it had been

honored and there had been a disaster and a state hadn't been ready, and it was because of this, I think maybe you could say

it's treason, bro.

It just is.

I think it's fair.

I think it's fair.

The threat is treason.

Even having the language on that website.

Maybe it is.

Maybe it is.

I've been careful about this word because I didn't like it when it was floated all the time.

This is treason.

It almost became comic.

I'm close.

I'm close.

Treason trees.

This is the closest I've been to saying, no, actually, if you were going to deny Americans in need supplies during a time of need, because they are within their own free will deciding that.

It's more than bad enough.

It's more than bad enough.

And I think it probably is that.

But it doesn't actually matter because, I mean, of course, it would match their lives if it happened, but it's based on

a the BDS thing is it's all virtue signaling, right?

It's a leftist thing.

And then

if states are having sanctuary cities, something that you were elected to do, and you want to withhold funds, I wouldn't withhold disaster funds over that because that's mental, that's absolutely psychopathic.

Just because somebody lives in a state that has sanctuary cities, I live in California.

What is your name?

An earthquake?

You're going to let me plunge down a ravine?

Sorry.

Yeah, like that is psychopathic.

And that's what we were hoping to defeat by keeping

the drunk out.

And the last one.

But the two female presidents stopped by Trump.

You can't take that away from him.

But

that is psychopathic enough.

But that's the one, ultimately, it's kind of virtuous singly in the gesture, you know.

But the one he caved on was that the one nobody has had a thing to say about was giving the nod to Israel to effectively move in and just take over huge.

And how recently it was, think how recently it was, that Trump irritated by disrespect and um uh and and and bad behavior from Netanyahu was signaling when he was here that uh maybe America would have a presence in Gaza that maybe that there would be a Trump tower in Gaza not to

Netanyahu's visible displeasure and surprise saying some of this stuff right

and how soon how quickly we got to the stage where Trump has said yeah just kidding they can have it all I think it's performative I think Trump's family is invested.

If you look at Jared Kushner's, the money that he's spending right now in Israel, I think that's what Trump is more concerned about, which is his family's legacy.

Obviously, in my viewpoint, October 7th was planned.

This is a false flag.

They always had the fact that Miriam Adelson came to him.

There isn't a doubt in my mind.

Of course, it was planned.

Israel has conducted so many false flags in the past.

And then the fact that he's being investigated for that and they're keeping everything hush-hushing.

It's a national security risk about how he was feeding talking points to your country's going through this and you're feeding talking points and you're being investigated for corruption pertaining to what happened on that day.

I mean, it's very obvious.

There are rabbis in Jerusalem today who are saying just this.

Of course.

There are rabbis in Tel Aviv who are saying just this.

There's no explanation for the Iron Dome mysteriously not working after its flawless record.

Why pilots were killed?

And moved the troops from the border.

Right.

Moved that music festival to the border so that they had lots of lovely young Nubile sympathetic victims.

Why Why the IDF was grounded for hours in an area where they could almost hear their own family members in the nearby homes.

Why they intercepted the hostage plan and they just ignored it.

It is not Egypt's warnings that there's a build-up happening on the border.

We're just not interested right now, actually.

Suddenly this

is not interested.

Mossad knows.

I like how you call it the Mossad, which is correct.

The Mossad knows, they know how many American Catholic bishops are homosexuals to the the man.

Because

I met somebody who works in Israeli intelligence who told me, oh, yeah, it's 88%.

I said, what?

Oh, 88% of American Catholic bishops.

And I said, what do you mean?

88%.

I said, oh, well,

we checked.

I was like, what do you mean you checked?

For them not to know what's happening on their own border is ludicrous.

It is unbelievable.

And now it makes sense because when I very innocently tweeted, no country in the world has a right to commit a genocide, was it two years ago or a year and a half ago?

and shocking controversial

they were they were so reactive which was such a they knew what was happening the entire time you know they had their people in place and to

gaslight the public their media members in place you had people like dave rubin who reacted to this tweet like i said something so crazy like i i thought that was obviously true we should never be supporting a genocide and i believe that every

every moment of october 7th was planned and i'm not even just like months in advance years in advance that they had planned to expand israel's borders

Same time with what's happening in Syria.

Everything seems like it was part of a broader plan.

And Trump, I have to ask the question, whether or not he was aware.

What did he know and when?

What did he know and when?

Yeah, I think it's reasonable.

And

to,

you know, to

try to claim that

there's this blind spot where suddenly they just had a failure of intelligence.

And But all these other things, I mean, this is a country that has gone so far, an administration, Netanyahu, that is, that has gone so far that they're now willing to sacrifice their own citizens in order to increase their borders.

Well, where does that,

where do I remember that from?

Could it be the word Lebensraum?

Could it be a country that did exactly that?

And it makes me wonder, well, it makes me remind me of why we don't give the victims of crime power over

sentencing of

the perpetrators.

Because

if the Jewish people suffered

to whatever extent

people have their own ideas about that,

under the Nazis, under the Third Reich,

and have held on to that as a core part of their identity, their victimization at the hands of the Nazis, which to some degree, of course, happened,

and define themselves according to that victimhood, they're the last people you want to give a gun to.

Well, or the Bolsheviks who magically disappeared and may have reappeared, laundering themselves through as like there

actually were Jewish victims during World War II.

And then there were people like Ellie Wietzel and Robert Maxwell, who may have actually been, you know, working for other people, doing demonic things.

And then they just said, oh, no, we were victims too.

That's my perception.

We know for a fact that some of the Bolsheviks were protecting Israel and these people were mass murdering Christians, you know?

So you start to ask the question, that can't leave you, right?

When you have this spirit of just murder and lying and deception and gaslighting, but

you're encouraged by the mythology that despite the terrible things that you do, you are history's greatest victims, and therefore anything you do is somehow justified.

You know, this is why we don't give rape victims the power to decide if they're a rapist, you know, goes away for life or

gets a death penalty.

Why we don't give orphans guns

because we need grown-ups in the room to decide what's reasonable and to hand

or to allow the acquisition of nuclear weapons in the hands of a rogue state that murders its own people by omission or commission,

that has the ability to take out cities,

and that believes that its people are history's great victims.

This cannot be allowed.

No, it's completely crazy.

And this is definitively what Trump, his entire legacy, is over.

I think it really is over.

I think MAGA is over.

There's no question.

I mean, MAGA, with Trump, I guess, leading the movement, is completely over.

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Okay, I want to kind of get into what everybody else, the MAGA originals, the patristics of MAGA, if you will.

Steve Bannon tweeted, I don't know if we have his tweet, which I thought...

it was very interesting, but he tweeted essentially Israel first, obviously.

Everyone's recognizing that as it pertains to what they tried to do.

Meaning it, I think, as a criticism.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah.

He said Israel first.

Yeah, I should be clear.

Tongue in cheek, Israel first.

And in response to this FEMA policy, they obviously, yeah, Israel first.

He sees him shaking hands.

Trump has finally betrayed America.

And yeah, there was this revolution, which I'm proud of, by the way, because I think it shows that MAGA is not a cult, that people are outraged, that he is not a king that we will say, but this is, he's gone way too far.

But it's not the only thing that happened.

I want to get to this, and you are the right person to speak about it.

I remember watching clips, and Skylar, if you can find a clip, please pull it.

You went to Berkeley University and they tried to kill you.

Okay.

Literally, Milo Giannopoulos went to speak at Berkeley University a very long time ago and they tried to burn the place down.

I remember they were throwing chairs through windows and there was a fire.

They started a fire because they did not want to hear a person that was supporting Trump speak at their campus.

It was insane.

You have no idea.

Now I've left the homosexual life behind me.

I will never be able to do this now.

But that night I had planned to wear a resplendent Native American headdress as my outfit.

It was the climax of the tour.

I was going to talk about cultural appropriation.

It was the most marvelous outfit I can now never wear.

But

they did about $20 million worth of damage to Berkeley and the town.

My favorite moment, which none of the press covered for reasons that will be obvious to you, is above the Wells Fargo cache point, the ATM that they ripped out the wall.

There was an anarchist sign on the wall with the words, Democrats, you're next,

which

nobody remembers and nobody covered.

But the level of anarchist fury was

quite remarkable.

It was interesting because that was a moment where I think people realized that, and this whole non-Sidney Sweeney scandal that's happening right now is kind of adjacent, but there was kind of this anger at the idea, the early MAGA movement, of white people having a place in society because they got really used to kind of tailing between malays.

You should feel angry and you should feel guilty for being white.

And you kind of got on stage and said, no, maybe we shouldn't feel guilty.

It's really interesting that Trump is in office and he is actually doing a lot to effectively create his administration DEI policies, the one thing that we're supposed to be going after, right?

As MAGA, saying this is actually not okay.

But he's doing it for Jews.

Okay.

Yes, it's true.

This recent situation is absurd.

Okay.

You go to school, sometimes you get into a fight.

And nobody expects the federal government to immediately get involved.

Okay.

But this is what happened.

Pam Bondi, within hours of a Jewish man, by the way, a Jewish man being shoved by a girl at, I think it's Florida State University.

That's correct.

How wounded.

They got into some sort of a TIFF.

We don't know.

We know that he had his phone out, so we're not going to be able to see the full thing of what started it.

He's wearing an IDF shirt.

She says something to him.

They get a lot of money.

Not a provocation at all, by the way.

Right.

They're committing a genocide.

Maybe it's.

Four days previously, we have the headline that

they're just gunning down civilians, lining up for food.

Hunger games.

Literally.

And whoever's fault that is, the soldiers, the people in charge, the sergeant,

the government, BB, whoever it is, they're doing it.

For you to go out in an IDF shirt, bit much.

It's a bit much.

I would say.

So somebody said something to him at the gym.

It was a woman who said something to a male student on campus at the gym.

They get into a tip.

I'm going to show you the horror of what happened here.

Oh, no.

Everybody, is it covering your

eyes?

It's very graphic.

It's very graphic.

violence.

Brutalized.

Here is the clip that required a federal-level response from the Attorney General.

F Israel, free Palestine, put it on Barcelona FSU.

I really don't give a f.

You're an ignorant son of a bitch.

Oh, he did the LeBron James there.

Oh!

Still holding his phone.

This is the kind of vicious, deadly assault that, you know, has become all too common.

Please.

And then what happens happens is somehow Randy Fine, who's openly genocidal maniac.

So actually he's got a bridge too far for AIPAC.

He's got worse than morals, you would think, when you look at him, doesn't it?

He laughs when he sees Palestinians that are starving.

He somehow gets this clip and he alerts Harmeet Dylan.

All I know is that within a couple of hours, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General of the United States, issued a tweet.

And here is what she says.

She says, thank you, President McCullough, for your leadership and prompt action.

Anti-Semitism will not be tolerated in Florida or anywhere else.

And then she thanks civil rights.

She thanks attorneys.

She thanks

Dylan.

And then she thanks the U.S.

attorney, Jack Keegan.

They said they are all investigating this.

So we cannot get Jeffrey Epstein's binder.

We can't get a response for that.

It's taking a long time to figure out who the clients were.

Arrests.

One, not one arrest in any of the things that the president's voters care about.

But they had this girl doxed, her full name on the internet.

They had

a whole ecosystem of lovely people who are out there ready to ruin your lives if you um have the temerity to object to somebody wearing a shirt that bears the iconography of a foreign army murdering children right that's what happened here and pambandi got involved and we're supposed to think what they got involved because they were worried about discrimination or they got involved because this entire administration only cares about zionists and they're actually creating dei policies for jews it's not just that, but it's the language too.

Thank you for your leadership.

This is the kind of thing you see in wartime.

It's the kind of thing

when somebody issues a proclamation that declares the freedom of the whatever.

No, just relax.

You've been

the level of absurdity gives me hope in a way because as you know,

most people under 40 and everyone under 30 thinks this is insane.

It's insane.

Insane.

Could the university not handle that little shove?

Because The kid even need to report it to Randy Fine.

Did he need to upload it?

Did he survive something?

I'm sorry.

Kids are being murdered while they're trying to get food in Gaza.

But this guy?

No, that's when the federal government, that is when the federal government really speaks up to true violence and avoid getting shoved on a college campus.

For their leadership.

Thank you.

Thank you for the leadership.

This is disgraceful, disreputable, despicable.

It is a shame that for once the young people

in this country have more of a moral compass than the old, which is not true of every electorate all the time.

Really true.

I mean, maybe it is more true than we like to admit as conservatives.

Perhaps it is.

But

your time is running out, you people.

You know, you're on bar time as it is.

Randy Fine is an artifact of

years gone by when you could speak about,

because they're Muslims.

And because,

and some of your viewers may not like this, I'm sorry, but because pretty much every American president has proven their toughness credentials by murdering a few of them.

I mean, a few million.

You know,

pretty much every American president comes into office, wants to let people know they're serious, kills a few million Muslims

over and over and over again.

Is it any wonder that some of them have the opinions about America that they do?

But why are they chanting death to America?

Because we're killing them, we're responsible for death with our weapons and our fucking

decades.

We've been murdering them like it's nothing

and

treating them like

subhumans, like people who don't have.

And frankly, I'm sorry, Muslims and Jews, both people of the book, if we have a relationship as Christians with any other faith, we have it as much with Muslims as we do with Jews.

And, you know, frankly,

some of their morality and some of their prescriptions about daily life have a lot more in common with a traditional Catholic than any Jewish teaching I've ever heard.

And yet we treat these people as though they are animals in foreign countries to be

exterminated when it suits us financially or in any other way.

And to

then protect a foreign country, not ours,

and its logos and its supporters from reasonable outraged responses by fellow students in this case, with the language, the high, the elevated language of statehood.

Thank you for your leadership.

It's disgusting, but

I can't help but think they got 10 years of this left and then it's over.

I think it's less than 10 years, I think.

Hopefully.

I actually think that's why they're speeding everything up right now because they realize, they recognize that nobody's following for this anymore.

I mean, another thing that Trump did that was fraudulent was saying that he was going to, you know, first order a business.

I'm going to rescue TikTok.

And I knew instantly, TikTok, apparently, Gen Z and Beneath had a moral compass about Palestine and they said, we've got to get it under control.

And then Trump goes, oh, I'm going, nobody, don't abandon TikTok.

I'm going to rescue TikTok.

We're not going to get rid of TikTok.

He didn't mean from the sex, did he?

He did not.

He didn't mean from the degeneracy.

He did not.

He didn't mean from the anti-Americanism.

He didn't mean from the Chinese propaganda.

He meant from people telling the truth about the Middle East.

That's what he meant.

And so this is who they have now installed.

Let's take a listen to this hero.

She will be in charge of hate speech at TikTok.

Take a listen.

Oh, but back to the good old days.

Yeah.

After my sophomore year, like many of my friends, I had a summer internship, a Goldman Fellowship at AJC.

I came to work each Tuesday as Israel engaged in life in one of the larger military operations of my lifetime, Suketan, Operation Protective Edge.

There we go.

That summer, I realized how impactful my Jewish upbringing and education was.

I simultaneously realized how passionate my own Zionist identity had become.

Has she mentioned America yet?

I grew up in a traditional Jewish Jewish college.

But in an untraditional decision, after graduating from Michigan, I made aliyah and enlisted in the Israel Defense Forces.

I spent the next two years serving as an Azikat Shirion, an instructor in the Army Corps.

To many, this might seem like a contradiction.

For a woman who identifies as liberal and progressive to be a Zionist so committed as to join the IDF, for me, these two identities go hand in hand.

Intersectionality.

What do you think about her leading

moderation policy?

What did we put Donald Trump in office for if we are back to the bad old days of 2014-50?

Next, she's going to be telling us about the wage gap.

She's going to be telling us

about campus rape culture.

It seems you can get away with any degree, any kind.

of skullduggery.

You can get away with any sort of wickedness if you will only call yourself or have yourself identified as a Zionist.

You can do anything, be anything, say anything, if only you will spend a year in the IDF.

Well, I'm sorry, but that kind of hypocrisy, that kind of shallow and outrageous and disgusting sort of papering over of wickedness is a thing, I hope, of the past.

We've fought those battles and we thought we had won them, but we are going to because

just look, take it, if you're watching this disheartened, and I understand why you might be,

just cast your eye over the social attitude studies that are pouring out year after year, showing the most colossal swing away from support for what is now a rogue and wicked state of Israel.

The problem is that they're murderous.

So I think about that and I'm like, this is great.

Like the public sentiment is shifting and we wonder, we understand what's wrong with Israel.

But then what happens?

They're just going to come, they're going to start brutalizing Americans.

I mean, they've shown, they don't care.

They'll kill a baby.

They don't care.

They will literally kill a baby and say there was was a tunnel underneath this crib i have no doubt that the end of the state of israel which must come um

will be accompanied by uh great horrors but

this is

a state that is no longer any good even for jews

because i'm watching her and i'm looking at you know the the expressions of our own politicians And I'm feeling more anti-Semitic.

My whole life has been a war against anti-Semitism, my own.

to, I'm trying not to hate people, but everything in my body is making me go,

you know?

And I'm losing that fight, people.

I'm losing it.

Well, it's hard not to have a humane response to watching children being grown up every day.

And it is not.

And then to have people

like the Barry Weiss's of the world trying to tell you that it's not happening.

You get so angry.

You get so angry with the lies.

And why are you allowed to lie?

Why are you allowed to gaslight?

Why are you allowed to pretend that what's happening is okay?

And not be, by the way, effectively chased out of society.

Instead, she's being awarded.

We have a phrase for this, righteous indignation.

And it is that feeling that you have when your compassion is ignited or your sense of injustice is ignited.

And then fuel is added to the fire by somebody telling you that you're crazy or that actually the good guys are the bad guys and the bad guys are the good guys.

Yes, that's what they're doing.

And that's exactly what's happening.

And,

you know, it's,

I can't help but feel as a natural optimist that

the absurdity, the heightened ludicrousness of all of this must surely portend the end, at least in America, of the support for this stuff.

And within a decade, it's going to become awkward, if not impossible, for a politician to say they support Israel.

It will happen very fast when it happens.

It happens little by little and then all at once.

When we look at Israel,

I think I fixed the problem, by the way, the Middle East.

I think I've solved it.

So the creation of the state of Israel is a colonial error.

It's a colonial mistake.

They should have given them Vermont, you know.

But it's, you know, Britain and America create this state, and they create an intractable problem that can only be resolved by the death of everyone.

You know,

it can't go on.

I think a colonial problem has a colonial solution.

And the only way, really, to deal with this is the one thing nobody wants to do: send in troops, not necessarily Americans.

I think probably Britain should bear the brunt of this since this is Britain's original sin.

I think that

the state has failed, that Israel is no longer

a going concern

as a state in 2025.

Both sides, the Israelis and Palestinians, have demonstrated they're not capable of self-government.

I think Britain needs to take over the sovereignty,

autonomous rule

of that area.

And I think the British Army needs to maintain the peace there and turn it into something like a giant UNESCO site where anybody of any faith can come visit wherever they want to go.

And the whole thing,

the Holy Land in Christianity, which by rights, the whole region is probably Orthodox Christian anyway.

But anybody of any faith can go anywhere and the British Army is there to guarantee the peace.

And hopefully in that way,

people will not feel,

hopefully that will reduce the horrors that are surely to come from both sides if an external major power backed by all the others is once again running the region.

It seems to me to be the only solution.

Basically, you

move pretty much everybody out and and turn the whole thing into a giant museum.

Because

the creation of the state in the first place seems to me to be

a riddle with no solution.

It's a puzzle with no answer.

And the only way to address it is to undo the mistake that was made in the first place.

Yeah, but then where are those Israelis going to go?

Because I personally, like, people that turn the other cheek when they're like murdering children, it's not, I wouldn't want them as a neighbor, like, personally.

I'm just saying.

And again, I want to be clear: it's not all Israelis.

Like, obviously,

the Haretz Haretz has been every day hitting at all of the lies.

And obviously they want Netanyahu, but many of them are okay with what's happening.

Too many of them are okay with what's happening in Gaza.

I think the majority of them are okay with what's happening in Gaza.

That's terrifying.

I don't want that person as a neighbor.

Any person, I don't even want the Americans that are supporting us as neighbors.

I'm basically going, okay, where should we send these people?

They can't be here.

You can't be here if this is your.

guiding philosophy in life that it's totally acceptable to mass murder children and to shoot them and to look the other way when they're trying to get food to to block aid to allow a starvation campaign to get what you want yeah no you need to leave america by the way so that's where i'm at yeah so i think i think that's fair but it's also it's it's quite a large area of territory that's under under dispute here it's it's a big place and i think space can be found for everybody it's not like israelis haven't had to move before um they had to move when they uh left gaza a while back you know that now they're now saying was a mistake uh i'm not saying you know i'm not suggesting everybody needs to move uh from where they are currently but if there were an external power who were backrunning the place, whose responsibility it was to keep the peace, and

who made it very clearly understood that the slightest

act of violence toward Brits or anybody else would be met with

brutal and deadly force.

But the issue is that even though they aren't the most powerful state, I mean they're not the biggest state, but they are the most powerful state, is what I would say Israel is.

It's because they have ran the most sophisticated blackmail campaign.

I mean, they have blackmailed.

I am shocked, even when I'm going into stories like about Emmanuel Macron, there's randomly an interjection of Israeli blackmail that they have.

Honestly, for people who can control the weather, they're not very good at PR.

I don't know how

that joke, but I don't know how good really

the Israelis or the Jews who care about this stuff have been at any of this.

They can temporarily intimidate somebody into saying something that that person does not believe for an easy life or financial advantage or political advantage.

But it doesn't persuade them.

It doesn't make them believe that.

It just means that they know what they ought to say if they don't want any trouble, or they know what they have to say if they want certain advantage.

It doesn't actually persuade anybody.

I think that the battle that really matters for Israel

is not one happening in Gaza, but it is in the

hearts and minds, as they say, of people all over the West.

And that battle has been comprehensively and forever lost.

That's true.

That is very true.

That's over.

It's done.

You will never persuade the coming four generations of Europeans and Americans that Israel is anything but a rogue, murderous, reckless, and wretched place.

It's done, it's over, you're lost.

It doesn't matter if Mike's going over there and praying on the long, it doesn't matter what he's doing.

If anything, the more of our politicians we see over there, the more we hate the whole lot of you.

It's going to be a litmus test.

It's going to be literally, we are not going to elect any politicians that support legislation.

I believe that.

I think it's going to become a liability, and then it will become impossible to admit for politicians, at least in public.

And under those circumstances, you know, if you have to be sort of crypto Zionist at that point, where you can't say it or vote for it.

Crypto Zionist.

Fantastic.

If you can't say it or vote for it, then what does it matter?

But it's done.

It's done.

It's over.

You lost.

You lost the war for

the West's good opinion.

And you did it as victims of the Holocaust.

How did you screw that up?

Well, they used that campaign and they seated us.

But because of that, actually,

it's ironic.

They did so much in terms of Hollywood producing so many holocaust movies they made sure it was in our textbooks it's a part of growing up in america learning about the holocaust and i think that they thought that that would extend to them the ability to execute this in broad daylight people go oh well it's the jews but the opposite thing happened people said that's a holocaust happening right there

and you guys are the ones that are executing it we actually knew when we saw a holocaust happening we knew because you had so ingrained in us the liturgy of the holocaust so it kind of backfired on them in this like this way that's it's it's almost like a poetic justice in a way where it's like okay by providing that anatomy of evil right it when we saw it we knew it when we saw it yeah so you can't you can't

i've seen the movies i know what this is you are the thing and and you know what's and you know what's incredible about it when you talk about the movies and evil in the movies

um

like most people when i started my career on the right politically i kind of reflexively went along with the zionist thing i mean uh same because i didn't couldn't really care too much and it wasn't that it wasn't relevant seemed like a cost of doing business didn't really care wasn't really paying attention and that's on me

as well i i totally i was working for prager you i had no idea that was the same thing.

It didn't seem like a big issue.

You know, I was like, BLM's burning stuff down.

I don't really care about Israel.

But one day I did start paying attention.

And when I did, my opinion changed dramatically.

And I started to notice something, which is, you know, maybe

our friends,

you know, followers of Muhammad,

maybe they're a little hot under the collar sometimes.

Maybe they get a little,

you know, a little, a little

over-emotional sometimes.

And maybe they

commit

acts that

are impossible for me to wrap my head around, suicide bombings and things like that.

And maybe some of it is motivated by religion.

A lot of it's politics.

But one thing I've never seen from

a former,

even people who are in terrorist organizations, one thing I've never seen from any Muslim freedom fighter or former jihadist or whatever

is

the glint in the eye, the sparkle in the eye, and the smile that just creeps across the side of the face when an IDF soldier recalls the carnage that they caused and the lives that they took uh decades previously and they're still attached to that memory in a way that gives them not just joy but a kind of vicarious delicious pleasure and that level of cartoonish

movie villain sociopathy, you don't see it on the other side of that conflict.

You don't really see it anywhere.

I've never seen it before until this conference.

I never saw it until I started watching closely.

So I started paying attention.

And you get those videos of the IDF guys who are in their 60s, and they're talking about the stuff they did.

I've never been so frightened.

It's scary.

That's what I'm saying.

It's like,

I don't want these people living with me.

I don't want to live near them.

I don't want, it's like, whatever that is.

Maybe we shouldn't have given them Vermont.

That's why I say it goes back to when you learn about what the Bolsheviks did and what happened thereafter and the mass murder of Christians, it gives Henrik Ya Goda.

And like, we do know that Israel protected a lot of the Bolsheviks.

They did.

It's just a fact.

And so, yeah, and they do that now.

They welcome these people in and say, oh, we'll protect you if you say that you're Jewish.

You're allowed to commit these acts.

So eventually you're going to have this culture of psychopaths, right?

And the people that seem to be what a culture.

It's fostering a culture of psychopaths.

And they need to, by the way, if you know that your end goal, you're Bibi Netanyahu, and you know that your end goal is that you're just going to commit a mass genocide, you want to make sure that you are fostering a culture of psychopaths because a normal person is going to be outraged at seeing children.

No matter what you say about these children, no matter how many tunnels you pretend are under each one of them, a normal, humane response is going to be: this is unacceptable.

Taking out this trauma from Hitler that may not even have affected you at all, let alone personally,

and visiting it on

penniless brown children out in the sand, you know, is unspeakable.

And it does feel like maybe it's what's happening.

And

it's the glee.

It's the, it's the,

they get off on it.

I really do.

And I'm so, I'm sorry to say that because it sounds like a terrible thing, but um, I've never, I don't see it in the videos of Third Reich soldiers.

I don't see it in the testimony at Nuremberg.

I don't see it in any body I've ever seen from any army where anyone has had to take life.

I mean, you and I have both had a lot of private security in our lives, whether we've had Navy SEALs or we've had whatever.

I don't, when they talk about lives they've taken, they go real quiet.

Those guys, you know, people have been out and done like 18 tours in Iraq or whatever.

They go real quiet when they have to talk about that stuff.

I've never seen anything like it outside of the movies.

I think about what it would be like if you had to wake up every day and just murder children.

Even when I think about the settlers who take the land, they are climbing over the skulls of children and babies and women.

They're seeing them rotting, their corpses rotting.

It's cool as they are.

And you're going to build a pool there?

Like, is that really what?

Is Jared Christian going to do that?

Is he invested there?

Is that what Jared and Baker are?

Is the Trump legacy going to be Gaza?

Because, my goodness,

you're going to have to change your last names because every, and I totally plan on shaming any person that even goes to visit to that territory in the future.

But I want to ask you, Trump Epstein files.

He's obviously in them.

We've determined that he's in them in some capacity.

That was the reason for the gaslighting.

Apparently, they had this meeting.

Trump did not deny this.

And Pam Bombi said you're in the files.

It's a complicated relationship, right?

Because we know that Epstein was afraid of Trump and thought that Trump was going to cause a lot of problems for him.

And some people say that's because Trump is a fair, you know, of course, he is now as a president, but you know, that he was maybe was helping the authorities with Epstein.

So it's been complicated, hasn't it, with them?

Yeah, it's been complicated, but it is interesting that Trump knew, didn't know allegedly until May that he was in the files.

He knew, obviously, that he'd been on the plane.

He was in the middle you were there, so you knew you'd be in the files.

Right.

Well, he wasn't on the island, but what do you, what do you think?

There are people that are watching this and they say, Cash, you're so stupid.

Like, obviously, Trump's been involved and stuff.

That's no good.

I actually truly do not believe that Trump is into children, which some people have alleged.

No, what do you think it is that he's hiding, though?

Because he's very he suddenly doesn't want people talking about the files.

So, what is that about?

Evidently, the operation around Epstein

is protecting the same people who are

currently chilling for Israel and the Middle East and who have done so much to destroy and impoverish and weaken and

cripple and corrupt this country.

You know, we need to know, we need to see the files because we have to know that we were right.

We have to know that we tore up the norms of politics to elect somebody

wacky.

We loved him, but he's wacky.

And took that huge risk

and will be punished for it.

I mean, you can only imagine what's going to happen next time Democrats get in.

We have to know that we did it and that we were right.

We have to know that there really were people doing this stuff.

And everything that you see suggests that that's the case.

The Diddy trial, for instance, was clearly about getting the tapes that incriminated powerful Democrats.

And after they had those tapes, James Comey's daughter, the prosecutor, Maureen,

they lost interest in whether Diddy was even guilty or not.

The prosecution themselves asked for the judge to take charges off immediately before the the jury goes to deliberate because they know they didn't even get close to proving that stuff.

And so he gets convicted of a couple of the minor charges, you know.

I mean, the guy might well be a real piece of work.

And most people assume in the business that he is.

If so, why doesn't the government prove it?

Because the Department of Justice had no interest in finding out whether or not he was

raping and drugging people.

All they wanted was the tapes so that the powerful people on them weren't in any danger.

I actually,

yeah, they wanted the tapes that apparently he had tapes that they didn't know about, but he was a total operation.

I think Connie told the truth about that.

I think so, too.

Yeah, I think that's probably the full extent of it.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

But, you know, these ops do go rogue.

And if he had tapes that they didn't know whatever.

He had extra tapes that they didn't know about and they wanted to get their hands on that.

Right.

So they go and get them back.

And then they kind of, you know, phone in the rest of the trial, which is maybe their thank you for being such a good operative, you know, phoning in the rest of the trial.

And, you know, frankly, the job that the Justice Department did, he should probably get a pardon because he did get justice.

He did not get a fair trial.

Anyway, point being,

that whole spectacle, that whole embarrassing collapse of justice there.

Another example of how even now these actors can put their finger on the scale and make things happen when they need to.

Why is Trump doing this?

What they got on him?

First of all, I think you're right about Miriam Adelson.

I think it was the cost of being president again.

uh is is when the call comes and the bill falls due it's what you got to do yeah irrespective of the uh public opinion and you know he's not running for president again what does he care now you know uh they'll get over it you know people people be cool in a couple of years and maybe we maybe we even will fall back in love with him for some other reason not impossible i i don't know what he would have to just be like i'm canceling federal tax federal income tax but that's exactly i think i'd still be angry about the epstein thing we'd still be angry but if you did cancel federal income tax

almost going back.

No, give us the Epstein files, but like Yeewee.

He's got some levers left.

He's going to have to cancel.

He's got some levers left that he can pull that might just.

That's the only one I could think of off the top of my head.

I'd be like,

maybe if he really did lock her up.

Maybe if he had, no, but I don't even care about it anymore.

No, I don't know.

Because they're corrupt both sides now.

It's just everybody can go to prison.

I genuinely don't know.

That's right, by the way.

Lock up Hillary Clinton when Net and Yahoo, you're like adapting up Net and Yahoo doesn't really do anything for me anymore.

No, nobody cares.

I don't care.

And I think he was right, actually, when he said to Rogan that it wouldn't have been the right thing for the country.

I think that's right.

No, look,

we have to face the awful truth that Trump might be great on a bunch of different subjects, but he is bought, paid for, owned, and operated on this one.

And sometimes, and this one, now and again, when you got 100 million, you can donate to a presidential candidate, this one can trump all others.

And so it is,

I think, a matter for the electorate to simply refuse to nominate and elect people with these views because to give Trump his due and his credit, he didn't lie to us.

He didn't tell us he was going to do something else.

He did not promise or suggest that he was some kind of Palestinian rights activist.

He said he was going to look after Israel and he did.

And maybe we didn't want to know what that would look like at the time.

And maybe we didn't want to think about how that would be.

And we couldn't have anticipated what Israel was planning then, what they were up to, but he did tell us.

And so maybe

the job now is to simply make it politically impossible

to run for president or run for Congress and be an unreconstructed Zionist.

Only we can do that because they're not going to do it for themselves.

Well, I don't know what timeline we're in right now, but Hunter Biden is making more sense.

Hunter Biden is apparently telling us the truth about Jeffrey Epstein while Pam Bondi and Donald Trump are lying.

But the second piece of his sit-down with a podcaster, I'm blanking on his name right now.

Andrew Callahan is his name.

Channel 5, I think.

From Channel 5.

Here is

Hunter Biden discussing Jeffrey Epstein and whether or not he killed himself.

Take a listen.

You know, do you think it was like a suicide?

Epstein?

Nobody does.

I mean, really, except for all of a sudden, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, nobody thinks it was.

You know,

you have that

you have that renowned doctor the um a coroner um uh that did that did the what's it called uh post-mortem autopsy yeah they did the post-mortem autopsy i don't know if that's what it's called he talks about all the different you know the the different fractures in his neck and how it was impossible that he could have done that you can't commit that

you can't commit suicide he exactly

yourself to death even if you hate life yes exactly and that literally is an impossibility and a a fiction.

And there's this idea that what he did is like he leaned forward.

Well, none of it matches up.

There's that guy that just testified that, or not testified, he was interviewed, that was in the cell next to Jeffrey Epstein's.

And he said it's just absolutely impossible that he would have been able to do that.

Now you have the tape that comes out, and it's not just one minute missing from the tape, it's actually three minutes from the tape has been overrun.

Why do we have to hear him say that?

That's just crazy.

It's the most secure facility in the country.

Well, that's the same thing.

Let me see.

Let me and that, and just just that alone.

You have someone that everyone absolutely knows that if anything happens to him is going to be, you're going to be accused of a gigantic cover-up.

And

he dies and the guy that is his co-conspirator in France, what's his name?

He just happens to, you know, commit

or, you know, die in mysterious ways in prison.

And, you know, the woman who's living in Australia, you know, she commits suicide just before that.

I mean, like, I, look,

again,

now I'm feeding into the conspiracy.

But clearly, I mean, who believes that he himself

is.

What's going on?

He knows whereof he speaks because he comes from a Democrat dynasty.

And if anybody knows about murdering your way to the top,

it is

the Democrat power families.

Exactly.

Two or three

little policy adjustments.

And he sounds remarkably like us.

And I have to say, is Hunter Biden the true heir to MAGA?

Maybe.

Maybe.

Hunter Biden, the unexpected heir to MAGA.

Listen, if he keeps talking like that and he makes just a couple little adjustments, I hope for him.

I mean, I'm watching this interview.

I've watched the other one.

I'm like, this is, he obviously doesn't care about anything anymore.

He is dropping F-bombs, going after George Clooney, going after his own side.

Yeah, he lies about his laptop, and you can see he's uncomfortable.

The parts of it where he just like says things about his dad and you you forgive him because you're like he loves his dad like he's just like my dad's great my dad nobody's ever mad nobody's ever mad for loving your dad okay but it's just crazy that hunter biden is there names doesn't he he does he knew he knew he knows exactly

cash and dan von gina is like he knew exactly the names dan vongina

but that's another thing okay you have a different opinion of dan von gino most people most people in magaland really like dam von vongi was vagina for a very long time and in fact once he got into office i realized i was right um so but you think he's just acting i think that he look years ago

on an in in a in a random interview he was asked by somebody i forget who what's the thing you care about most in the world and you think he's gonna say his kids or he's gonna say our lord jesus christ or he's gonna say this out there he says the state of israel oh oh he said the state of israel yeah this is years ago um he's one of those he's always been one of those um he's like

he's like a weak person's idea of what a tough guy looks like um he's a mom blogger you know he's he's a podcaster for Trump moms.

He's got a face that looks like a partially clenched dog's rear end.

You know, he's got, he's, he is

weak,

looks weak, sounds weak.

And since the moment he got into office, he has acted pretty weak, hasn't he?

Dan Bongino, try to go two days without looking like you can't cope with the job challenge.

Impossible.

Like, give me a break.

So you think it's all performative?

Not only is he bought and paid for, but he's also not up to the task that

he has accepted.

It is a matter of

morality and character.

When you're offered a job that you know you can't do,

you should graciously and gratefully decline and maybe suggest something you'd like just as much.

But when he was asked, do you want to be deputy director of the FBI?

Come on.

They just cared that he was pro-Israel.

He should have said no.

What about Cash Patel?

What's your take on that?

Because people, he was saying all the right stuff before he got into office.

People thought he's going to dismantle the deep state.

He's really going to do day one.

It's a perfect example of

the kind of person that I would never have trusted in a million years because he's always been a panderer.

When he was on those podcasts, he would push explanations just a little bit beyond the facts.

He would say he would

make statements that weren't quite supported by all the evidence or he would constantly gesture toward things he'd seen but couldn't tell you about.

Or

he was always pointing at something just out of reach and saying, Well, if you'd seen what I've seen, you'd know I was right.

And from that, constructing, you know, and telling people exactly what they wanted to hear.

Is it any wonder he's doing it now?

He's

in office.

He's just got a new audience now.

His audience now is the FBI.

So, no, I'm not surprised.

I think they're both disasters.

I think they're both foreseeable disasters.

Pam

Bonnie is obviously a lightweight who's hopelessly inadequate to the task of being attorney general.

The original excuse for why the Epstein files didn't come up when they were supposed to was that she wanted to do it as a surprise to the White House until presumably she saw the president's name plastered through the files and realized she couldn't.

Amateur hour, amateur hour, amateur hour.

These three names are embarrassments.

And it's all I

don't mind Pete Hexeth.

I think he's okay.

I can't stand some of the pocket squares and whatever.

It looks like addressed by his five-year-old,

but it's not so bad.

People sometimes are.

I think he's read this one, Dad.

He's like, okay.

That's sweet.

And if that's how he gets dressed in the morning, that's the only reason it would be okay.

But

I actually kind of don't mind him.

I think he's doing an okay job.

He's probably not doing most of the real job.

I will say I knew him when he was at Fox News, and he was a solid guy.

Right.

He seems okay to me.

And that's an example of where I think Margaret gets it right.

Getting a true believer who's fundamentally a good guy.

And maybe some of those job functions need to be delegated out to people who have a bit more

nuts and bolts experience of certain things.

But basically, he's fine.

The other three I just mentioned, eminently foreseeable catastrophes.

What about Steve Bannon?

I know he's not in the administration, but I definitely have been looking at a lot of his stuff lately because, like I said, at the end, you start looking at the beginning and Steve Bannon was so right about everything when MAGA, he understood MAGA, he understood the populist movement.

He was in Trump's ear.

And now I'm just wondering, how do you perceive the relationship between him and Trump?

Because Trump still speaks with him, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything that Steve Bannon is saying and the things that Steve Bannon is expressing.

We don't speak as often as we used to, but I have great respect for Steve.

I like Steve very much.

And he's really wrong.

I think his analyses of things are good.

And the thing I think that Steve has, which I've always admired, which is something that you see in great priests, you can go through hell.

You can hear the worst that humanity has to offer.

You know,

you can be presented with the most pessimistic fact pattern in the world steve will find a way

within minutes to

chart a course to victory that sounds plausible that's exciting uh that you could think okay all right okay okay it's very powerful uh and so i think he's very underrated as an orator as well as um uh being a great strategist uh more often than not right of everything and and steve was never like a uh

to the best of my recollection i mean we were at breitbart together working very closely for years but to the best of my recollection he was never he was never a big israel nut, you know, I mean, he's, he's a pragmatist, you know, he would probably say a Leninist.

So

I think he's seen the writing on the wall and said something about Trump that many of us are feeling.

You know,

Bannon is not the power that maybe he was once, but he remains one of the most intelligent and interesting and unusually correct commentators and strategists that I think we have.

Who do you think has Trump's ear right now?

That's kind of an interesting question because you're just wondering, someone who hates him, clearly, obviously, right?

I mean, someone who hates him has his ear and is telling him to do all the things he shouldn't do,

to tweet all the things he shouldn't be tweeting.

Never Trump is surrounding him.

He's the fact that he's promoting like Mark Levin.

It's like, it's like literally these people absolutely detest you, and they somehow, it's almost a humiliation situation.

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I quote, retweeted it with In Your Dreams cankels because it has just come out about his big swollen legs.

Mark Levin,

you know, this is a family-friendly show, so I actually can't talk about Mark Levin.

There's no,

I can't see any path through this where we don't get you in trouble.

I think

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He's

He

is in the state where he'll do as he's told and accept what's around it.

And we keep seeing these people, don't we, in the

in the press footage when he's coming off the helicopter and whatever, these faces we haven't seen before smirking in the background.

They hate him so much.

They hate him so much.

They're like, aha, another humiliation ritual.

Tell your supporters you don't want their supporters.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That has to be what's going on.

Unless you have a knight himself.

Unless you have a knife at Ivanka's neck, like, what else would justify this?

I feel feel like that's what I want to think.

I want to think.

I want to believe that all the kids are in a dungeon.

Exactly.

And then we can understand what he's doing and what he's tweeting because he loves his children.

He tested pictures of his children crying.

Yeah.

And then maybe, okay.

And then he's like, do the thing, do the thing.

Not Don Jr.

because he wouldn't care, but

maybe Eric and Ivanka.

Which is funny because everyone thought in the future, okay, Eric Trump is going to run or Donald Trump is going to run.

And now, obviously, I think those chances have been completely annihilated given what's happened.

But what do you think about J.D.

Vance?

I find his silence to be quite loud.

I have a feeling he's going to really pleasantly surprise us all because I think the expectations for him were so low.

The, oh, he's a creation of Peter.

People are always like suspicious about, oh, he's a creation of Peter Thiel without really explaining what it is about that that's bad.

I could explain things about that that's bad.

I know you could.

For sure.

I mean, Peter Thiel, I put him in the same class as like and Elon Musk.

I mean, they have this futuristic vision.

It's a technocracy.

I mean, they're, they have, I personally don't think that people

that in their own lives

hold tradition or the nuclear family, that they should have positions of power because for them, they want to create things like, you know, we don't need women.

We're going to create an artificial womb.

We're going to have all it just scares me.

I was very unsettled by Peter Thiel's answers in that interview with the New York Times.

Oh, gosh.

Do you have that, Skylar?

That was hilarious when somebody called.

Do you want the human race to succeed or something?

And And he's like,

I was very

uncomfortable by that for sure.

You're like robots.

100%.

The robots are here.

But the people he's put forward have been that bad.

I mean, the.

But that's what they need.

They need the person that you believe in.

And I will say that's the one thing that makes me.

And I have not met J.D.

Vance.

So I'm usually a person that I like to meet someone in person before I enter in a judgment.

But I will say that just looking at the story of J.D.

Vance, there is, and this is something that Mark always says to me, that is this like the Obama thing where it's almost too good to be true.

He's changed his name a few times.

He was a senator, but somehow was able to get away from the story.

And it's not really Rags Richard.

He's had a family that's been around for a long time.

And also he gets this book deal and like Netflix does a deal with him.

Like, why did they pick this obscure senator?

Again, I'm just at a point right now where I don't trust anybody.

So I'm not saying this because I'm actually dismissing J.D.

Vance.

I'm saying I'd like to have a further conversation and sit across from him and ask him these questions.

Your radical skepticism is

what the moment calls for.

It is the most rational position.

Right?

Thank you.

That sounded so brilliant when you said it.

My radical skepticism is actually the most rational position.

Thank you, Philip.

It is what the moment calls for.

Yeah.

Um, we shouldn't trust anybody at this moment.

I'm just a dreamer, Candace.

Seriously, I'm an optimist.

I've got to believe that he's going to be all right.

Uh, um, but you can't, how can we trust the JD Vance?

I mean, what do you think about Elon Musk?

I've been calling that out from beginning.

Like, this guy is very clearly.

We have no real way to know about Vance.

We have plenty of ways to know about Musk.

Um, and Elon is,

I mean, the future he wants is not the the future I want, and the future he wants is not the future any of us really want.

But all of them are successful because they did deals with the state.

I sort of feel like what are we doing here?

I sort of feel like, based on what we know from Elon Musk so far, that Mars is just going to be a giant brothel.

You know,

he's got like a four or a five-year-old's kind of

tee,

mischievous approach to kind of like pornography and to and stuff like this.

He named the

AI on Twitter that's for kids,

what is it, Rudy or something?

And then it's like bad Rudy is the adult one.

So they're almost called the same.

Almost like you can make a mistake.

You know, like, I don't like some of that stuff.

I think it comes up and flirts with floats, you know, it goes about beyond floating the line, really.

I think Elon Musk has sex problems.

Well, which is not.

What gave it away?

Could it have been the 97 baby mamas?

Okay, but I mean, like, above and all right, okay, wow.

But above and beyond, above and beyond just a billionaire, I can do what I want with whoever I want.

And I've got the weird baby thing.

I think he's got like some real serious stuff.

To me, you can't be a leader of anything if you don't believe in the nuclear family.

That's my that is my opinion.

That's my position now.

That to me is a personal witness.

Where's your family?

Do you believe in family?

I agree with that.

And if your model for family is, well, we can create an artificial womb and we're not going to need this in the future because everything's going to be robotic.

It's not good.

And your car is going to be able to give birth to your child.

I'm going to say, I'm going to hit pass.

Just look at the people that elevate.

Ashley St.

Clair,

who is, you know, who becomes briefly, you know, the sort of.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

She won.

No, no, she didn't.

No, she didn't.

No, she did not.

Her Her name will forever be synonymous with

opportunistic womb rendering.

You know what?

I don't like it.

I don't, I don't.

The only reason I do, I actually have to defend her at this moment is because one thing that I just do not agree with is everyone pretending like Elon Musk on his like 20 seconds.

She's seen that kid.

20 seconds ago.

So

you know how babies were made.

They're like, she trapped him.

I'm like, everyone, stop acting like Elon Musk is a four-year-old.

Like, he knew exactly what he was doing.

He had the resources.

He wasn't baby trapped, but she did post five years previously that she

about wanting to,

she posted five years previously that it was her intention to

ensnare.

She didn't use that word, but it looked like she was saying it in jest.

First and foremost.

And the second thing is maybe

you could find that tweet.

You don't think the person who owns Twitter could find that tweet?

I'm sorry, he's not a victim.

We're not making Elon Musk a victim.

He didn't know about it until I resurfaced it.

But

I don't think there are any heroes in that story, by the way.

Yeah, it's Jerry Springer.

Okay.

This is ghetto.

I recognize this.

I do agree.

It's Maury, Jerry Springer, and because he's got a lot of money, we're not recognizing it.

I just find her profoundly unlikable.

But okay, we can move on.

When for centuries in Europe and then in America, there's an expectation that anybody who runs for president is going to be a married person with kids.

I think there's something very valuable about that, something cohesive, healthy, healthy, wholesome, I think absolutely necessary, 100%.

If you are

seeking to lead a country like this,

you're not coming in just as an innovator.

You're coming in as a guardian, as a protector, as a caretaker also.

And so to

show that you understand and have respect for the building block of that society, which is the nuclear family.

and to show that you put your money where your mouth is, that you demonstrate, you practice what you preach that you too are a participant participant in that institution, and therefore you're going to take care of everybody else's affairs as though they were your own, I think, is necessary and reassuring.

So,

I completely agree.

With the exception of the clergy, I really don't want to see anybody in public life that's not in a family.

I agree.

I totally agree.

And even with Elon Musk, by the way, the majority of his Abu Mamas, he used IVF, which I find to be quite strange and futuristic and weird.

Well, because,

well, I mean, his army of mids,

who knows?

But they all seem like droids droids to me.

I can't explain it.

The whole AI joyless droids.

I feel like they're partially not human.

I don't know why I feel this way.

One or two of them is employees as well.

It's like one of them is working in AI or something.

See them all together.

They have nerdy girls to them.

They have a look to them where I just.

It's called ugliness.

It's not even ugliness.

It's like there's something in the eyes that I just don't trust.

I am like, I know that you want to turn me into a robot and I cannot buy or invest in anything that you're selling.

If you were to drift off, you might wake up with an implant.

Yes.

Yeah.

That's how I feel.

Yeah, I think they're right about that.

They talk and they talk about the future and how great it's going to be and all we have to do is give them our brains.

Look at that.

I don't trust that.

And no, no, no, no, that's number four.

I just don't know about these AI bros.

That gay guy, the open AI one with the buying

buying babies, people trafficker.

We mentioned another people trafficker, a much fatter one, Dave Rubin, earlier.

Those are the people that

tend into the

obvious and ostentatious evil for me.

But that quieter, weird, unsettling thing that you've noticed about Elon's baby mom.

Yeah, for sure.

I see it too.

Yeah, something that makes me uncomfortable.

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Okay, I'm going to get to some of your guys' comments because I know that I have a book club tonight and I'm probably, but I do want to just ask you very quickly.

Somebody sent me some tallow soap.

Was it good?

Tallow's fantastic.

Honestly, it was.

Tallow's fantastic.

They used to make our french fries.

I've said goodbye to Ashy.

I have.

Which is a white people infliction.

Well,

yes.

Ashi.

Okay.

We can help.

I occasionally do suffer from this, being African-American myself.

It is an affliction.

I am both Ashy and ungovernable.

Ungovernable is definitely our affliction.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Delayed Maxwell, very quickly before I get to people's comments.

He's obviously going to pardon her.

Do we agree?

Of course he is.

Because it's the most despicable thing he could do.

So it's worse at that point.

We just all accept that.

He's already moved her into a prison cell with Elizabeth Holmes.

Oh, he's going to be a little bit of a drink.

Which I don't even think is a real prison.

She's like jogging around.

Yeah.

Oh.

So basically.

Who her father was within Club Fed?

Do you know who her father is?

No.

Used to work for Enron.

Don't get me started on the Elizabeth Holmes rabbit hole.

The guy that's bought the Enron Twitter account is so funny.

I think it's the guy who did.

If you look, find Enron on Twitter, it's so funny.

He does these things like these

spoof products, like a egg-shaped nuclear reactor.

It's just funny.

Like kind of weird surreal humor.

It's the same guy, I think, who came up with the Birds Aren't Real thing.

Oh.

Yeah,

he bought the Enron handle on Twitter, and it is my favorite thing.

Okay, I'm going to have to look that up.

But yes, he's obviously going to pardon Glenn Maxwell.

Yep.

And she's going to go to prison camp.

He's already moved to her.

There were no crimes.

Exactly.

Actually, logically, it makes sense to pardon her since there's absolutely no crimes and no victims.

Was she in jail?

Poor children of this world.

The more I learned about the elites, it's just sickening looking into the Emmanuel Macron story.

Did you watch Becoming Brigitte?

I did.

And not only did I watch it, I watched it twice.

Male or female?

Brigitte Macron.

Circle.

I have.

Look, I watched it very, very closely.

And I watched it with a critical eye because I wanted, you know, respectfully and privately to

talk to you about a few things I've had.

But I am persuaded.

Right?

I am persuaded.

How could you not?

I'm like, if you say that you don't think that Brigitte Macron is a man, I have to accept that you didn't watch a series.

It is the most.

I am persuaded.

And I haven't even read Xavier's book yet, but I.

Wait till you get to that.

We barely scratch the surface.

I am persuaded.

It's unbelievable.

Everyone around me is involved in trans and this and that.

There are things that cannot be explained.

Or rather, that they should have been able to and should by now have easily done.

So easy.

Before you get to the point where you sue someone, here's my photos of me growing up.

I don't believe that I know of, not just that I have lived to see, but that I have ever heard of or that I know of a bigger PR blunder than the Macron's suing you for this, because prior to that, viewers of this show will know that Candace, despite being a phenomenally successful and extraordinary woman, is sometimes

excluded from the coverage she should get by some of the more snooty

establishment press.

So she could break a story and everybody could know about it.

Everybody knew Candice broke it.

But you might not see it in the New York Times or on CBS, but you will now

because they have got every prestige media outlet in the world to repeat Candace's conclusions or Xavier's reporting and your conclusions, you know, the whole thing.

And so now the person who is most responsible for spreading what they say are, you know, hateful and

terrible is them.

And to sue you, and we'll maybe get into this another day.

We'll have some fun with it, but to sue you to reach over the border as a head of state

and to sue a black woman after France's history in Africa.

What they did to us in Africa.

Both of us.

No, but I mean, people don't know this.

There's 12 countries in Africa that still have the colonial franc that pay a portion of their GDP every year to the French treasury.

They still have an empire.

The French just won't leave the Africans alone.

They don't Leave black bodies alone.

And the latest black body that they wish to exert control over is Candace and her big gob.

You will not colonize me, Macros.

Okay.

But these perfumed poncers from Paris reaching over the channel and seeking to clamp their hands over the

chattering more.

It makes me sick.

One more.

I mean, haven't gay men taken enough from black women?

It's just, it's unbelievable.

I mean, Emmanuel Macron.

Their gestures,

their sayings, their body language, their

all this.

And now you want a freedom to talk about.

By the way, speaking of homosexual males, Emmanuel Macron,

which is, you get into this if you read the full book, which we're going to probably get into as we go into the second season.

But what's remarkable is how he didn't sue when people were coming out saying that they slept with him, people who were talking about how they were a part of these like sexual charged political parties.

Men that said that they slept with Emmanuel Macron, they did not feel the need to correct the record and to sue those individuals who had spoken that way.

And yet, this, for some reason, not until a black woman did it

and came through the other one.

And suddenly it's 1770 all over again.

And

French aristocrats are chopping bits off black people because they don't make their quota or because they say the wrong thing.

They will not colonize me.

They will not colonize.

Okay, let's get into some of these comments.

We have people that are writing writing in.

Let's see who we have up first.

All in right.

How is it that the Macron's attorneys are able to launch their lawsuit against you from the studios of CNN?

So true.

Is this a CNN broadcast arm of the pedophile network?

And last, but certainly not least, we declare war.

I mean, yeah, it is crazy that Tom Clare was ready to go on CNN, but I can also tell you guys, we know this for a fact as well, which will come out when we file a response to the lawsuit.

They were shopping for crisis PR firms in America before we launched our first episode, before we dropped our first episode of the series.

They were in communication with us, and yet they knew that they needed to go out and get ahead of it.

What does that tell you?

I might be wrong.

What does that tell you?

I might be wrong about this, but given the length of that complaint and when they filed it, I kind of feel like they probably had that in the chamber, or at least they were writing it while the case was going on in Paris with those two ladies, which they lost, which they lost.

And when they lost that, that would have been the moment to say, listen,

to paraphrase Lady Bratnell, to lose one defamation case looks like carelessness.

To lose two looks like

she got a ding-dong.

Because

to come to America and to lose, as they surely must,

a defamation case, I saw episodes.

where she is saying, please answer our questions, where she is saying,

if you can prove this, why don't you?

To try to prove, as they will have to, actual malice, meaning they've got to prove that Candace knew it was a lie when she said it and intended to hurt and defame and damage.

You can't.

She's on air asking you to respond to a request for comment.

And they said, we don't have to answer your questions.

And people are going, oh, you don't deserve her blood.

We didn't ask for your blood.

People were like, yes or no.

Did you used to live as Jean-Michel Trogneau?

Did you used to go by the name Berenique?

It's just incredible to me that they're pretending.

Like we said, we would fly to France, get their side of the story.

We will take your evidence.

Here, here are the pictures of her pregnant.

Here are the pictures.

And we could have been your PR firm.

Well, they wouldn't send black back.

And they said no.

They wouldn't send blood back, but they are coming for their pound of flesh.

They are coming for their pound of flesh indeed.

Amal writes, thank God pushing you to your own platform.

You're changing the world.

I'm happy that my daughter can watch someone who looks like her have such an extraordinary impact.

Thank you so much, Amal.

I appreciate your support.

Bishon writes, they, referring to Israel, are going all in because they know that when the boomers are gone, mainstream propaganda is finished.

Yeah, they have their most, they have bots on Facebook that are incredible, these little IDF bots.

And it's because you can tell they're trying.

The only strength they have is in the boomers, right?

They're like we.

They're sophisticated as the Groiper bots.

There's so many bots.

And I'm like, every time you try to say anything about Israel, the bots swarm in.

It's because they know they need the boomers.

Like it was as soon as the boomers are no longer here to defend them.

These boomers, though, are changing up their mind about Israel.

They need that chilling effect, you know, where

if you post it, it's going to be a headache.

It's going to get demonetized.

It's going to, this is going to happen.

And then people are going to, the people who do like me are going to see me getting like, you know, blah, blah, blah.

That sort of stuff has never bothered me, but it does bother most people with some good reason.

Like, nobody wants the, like, you know, for 5,000 people on the internet saying they're an idiot.

Nobody wants that.

Right.

The chilling effect that that has on what people say, what they're prepared to say, and how they say it is significant.

Bots are a psychological game.

Exactly.

Yeah, they're.

Exactly.

You're the only person that thinks this.

You're all by yourself.

Exactly.

And that's not true.

It's real.

And even if you're not

usually frightened by that kind of thing, it still somehow, at some point, is going to stop you posting something you otherwise might have or should have, even if you're somebody like us.

Marcy writes, I appreciate Milo bringing up the UK original sin.

By this, he means the Balfour Declaration.

He also mentioned the Jewish insurgency in mandatory Palestine.

Yes.

It's not a question.

It is a comment.

Anders Lovebrand writes, it's too insane.

Think a lot about the gift that Trump got from Netanyahu, the golden beeper.

That was sick.

Wasn't that disturbing?

It's just disturbing.

Even like the signing of the the missiles, like it's so psychopathic.

You have to be a psychopath to support Zionism.

Like, why would you go over and sign bombs that are going to kill children, Nikki Haley?

Why are we doing this thing?

Like, Mike Johnson, to go over there right now, when the entire world is accepted this is a genocide, to go over and to put on a yarmulke and pray on this remnant of a wall that, by the way, is not, don't even get me started on like, even they've lied about the history of that wall.

It's actually a temple.

And then to start this old canard, this Protestant nonsense about Israel in the Bible.

And

we're told to blah, blah, blah.

Starting up that old chestnut again, compounding propaganda with cruelty, with lies.

It's too much.

It's too much.

Totally agree.

President Nixon's revenge.

I don't think I actually finished that person's sentence.

Two and say anything about the Gip that he got, the Golden Beeper.

Also, the drones over New Jersey.

That's the military people speculated was looking for nuclear material that had gone missing.

Yeah, we never got an answer about those drones.

Was it the UFOs or something?

Was it?

Yeah, we never had an answer.

Remember the drones that were above New Jersey?

I mean, a lot of weird stuff happens in New Jersey.

And we just kind of moved on.

Yeah, there's a reason for that.

President Nixon, trust me, a bunch of people just tried to murder me from New Jersey.

I lived in New Jersey for two years, and they were very strange years.

It's a peculiar place.

It's like Little Israel, actually.

Why is it?

It's Little Israel.

It's a lot of places, yeah.

President Nixon's revenge.

Candice needs to, that's the name of the user, Candace needs to add a lot more airtime to Epstein.

Trump can release all the thousands of Epstein files the DOJ has now.

These files are not sealed.

They can redact all the victims' names and the photos.

Yeah, the excuse they're giving is they're saying, oh, well, it's child pornography.

That's why we're not giving it to you.

Obviously, there's pages of interviews with people that could go out now.

They could absolutely do that.

That is a fact.

And it's also a fact that they are not going to do it because Trump's friends are implicated and because Israel has occupied America.

America is an occupied nation.

I just see, we're all clear.

Let's say it again.

It's occupied.

We do not have real governance.

Everything is contingent upon Israel.

And it's been that way since they shot JFK.

Who shot Jay?

What do you mean by they?

I am talking about Israel.

Stop with your little taboo games of like, you can't say it and trying to correlate Israel to Jews.

By the way, in another episode, we should really discuss even them conflating Judaism, trying to say it's an identity as opposed to being a religion is a trick.

Okay,

that's a trick as well.

Ridiculous,

like, oh, well, now you can't say anything critical.

Now it's trying to conflate the country.

Now it's like the I am Israel.

If I

the Pentage, the Torah, vouch out, not kill.

What are we doing here?

It is belied by the history of Judaism, the faith, to say that it is only a faith.

I mean, the Jews

in

Spain in the Middle Ages effectively invent racism for the modern era.

Because so many Jews are converting to Christianity, the rabbis are like, what are we going to do about it?

Well, how about we

say it's in the blood?

You can't really stop being a Jew.

You can only sort of pretend or whatever.

So that'll help.

You know,

it was a,

when we go in history from talking about tribes, ethnic groups to talking about race.

It's a Jewish invention.

And it's

central to Jewish identity.

And all the time,

Wallace says, can Jews themselves be anti-Semitic, or is that just called telling the truth at that point?

Which is very good, funny comment.

But yeah, it's ridiculous that we're now saying the truth is anti-Semitic makes absolutely no sense.

Anyways, in closing, I'm going to do another sit down with you because we have so much talk about Yay, our past.

It wasn't really, we didn't even really have past beef.

I just didn't know who you were and didn't think that yay should work with you.

Let me take this.

Candice sent my present employer, Yay Kanye West, uh, some messages that I wasn't very happy about.

And so I know that there will be people who love her watching this being like, but didn't he tweet?

Um, uh, at the time that Candace did that, with the information that she had, she was absolutely right to look after a friend.

Um, and I appreciate it.

And in the time that has passed since, I think we've got to know each other a little bit better.

Yeah, we, we've I just didn't know you, and I just was kind of like, I don't trust him at all, and yay has no reality.

I don't know you, all right.

I don't know you, don't cry.

How dare you pretend not to know me?

No, but uh, I have to say, Candace, um, uh, no hard feelings because at the time that you sent those things, you had a great care and love for somebody that I have since grown the same affection for.

And at the time on the information that you had, I would have done the same.

Thank you.

I really appreciate that.

And yeah, we have much to discuss about Yay.

I also, the reason I first contacted you because I want to talk about Hollywood Babylon.

By the way, you guys, in about an hour, we will be doing the book club.

We're starting the Assault on Truth.

And there's, what's that?

Oh my gosh, we're running.

I'm running so late.

I literally have to go, you guys.

So I will

15 minutes, probably running 15 minutes late for a book club.

All right, you guys, I will see you then.

Thank you, Milo, for joining.

Okay, go for this.

Go for this.