Charlie's Final Hours. What Else Is Josh Hammer Lying About? | Candace Ep 250

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Speaker 5 All right, you guys. Happy Wednesday.
Sorry, we're running late today. I'm starting homeschooling, so still getting adjusted to the new schedule.
Where should we begin?

Speaker 5 Okay, well, Josh Hammer, because that's certainly getting a little more interesting, maybe a bit darker than we had anticipated.

Speaker 5 Because just 16 hours before Charlotte Kirk was assassinated, he mysteriously retweeted a 2013 tweet from Donald Trump calling for public executions.

Speaker 5 Now, I have tried, and I don't feel that there is any way that I can confidently explain to you guys why he tweeted that, least of all in the context of him having already admitted that he and a rabbi in Israel had a long talk with Charlie the night before he died, something he was very proud of.

Speaker 5 Also, Dinesh D'Souza has jumped into the mix. Welcome, Dinesh D'Souza.
He is joining every commentator who hates Candace Owens. That's nice that he has entered the foray.

Speaker 5 He's got some things to say to me. We're going to discuss it because it's weird.
And I'm also going to explain to you why, more formally, at least, why I decided to activate an effective kill switch.

Speaker 5 And I want you guys to pay attention because this is really important. Welcome back to Candace.

Speaker 5 Hoisted by his own petard. That's an expression, obviously, that we use a lot.

Speaker 5 And I have this thing where I always have to go back and research and figure out why we use common expressions because nobody actually thinks about those things anymore.

Speaker 5 Well, this one is pretty obvious.

Speaker 5 It refers to when soldiers would use a petard, essentially a bucket-shaped explosive device packed with gunpowder, effectively a bomb, to blow up the gates and wall fortifications of their enemies.

Speaker 5 They'd light the fuse, and sometimes

Speaker 5 they would be hoisted by their own bombs. And that's exactly what is happening right now to Josh Hammer.

Speaker 5 For weeks after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Josh Hammer obsessively and shamelessly accused people of lying, people of grifting, people of attempting to destroy Charlie Kirk's legacy.

Speaker 5 Charlie Kirk was his friend. He claimed rather maniacally.

Speaker 5 Charlie never once flinched on the topic of Israel. He died just loving Israel.
It was like, are you kidding me? It's all he cared about. Check out just some of these tweets, by the way.

Speaker 5 This is a collage. We just don't have all day here to gather crazy Josh Hammer tweets, but you get the idea.
There is a repulsive op right now to hijack Charlie Kirk's legacy.

Speaker 5 There is a repulsive op right now desecrating Charlie's memory by trying to posthumously convert him to groiperism. I can't believe there's something known as groperism.

Speaker 5 I was given access to this letter a few months ago and I read it at that time. Tucker, Candace, and other bad faith actors are lying through their teeth about Charlie and Israel.
Candace Owens and

Speaker 5 other grifters, you get that back up for a quick second.

Speaker 5 Candace Owens and other grifters are trying to posthumously rewrite and hijack the legacy of the great Charlie Kirk to further their patently evil ends. There has been a repulsive op, op, op.

Speaker 5 The reality is simple. Charlie was a bridge.
Like it's weird that he keeps repeating that sentence. Like I said, maniacal, obsessed.

Speaker 5 And of course, in the comfort of his own derangement and with the full support of the press and the silence of Charlie's other quote unquote friends, Josh was really acting the part of a true Pharisee.

Speaker 5 He was certain that the truth would not rise again. He was so confident that he had killed it and that he could himself hijack the legacy of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 5 Except the truth did kind of rise again, kind of always always does rise again. And the world now knows that Josh Hammer had personal, intimate knowledge that Charlie's views were changing.

Speaker 5 He lied about the Hamptons meeting. I've told you the truth from day one.
Seth Dylan and Josh were personally upset with Charlie's defiance against the state of Israel.

Speaker 5 Seth Dylan was the more vocal of the two parties in the Hamptons, as I said, in terms of actually pressing Charlie, but both of them were upset about the way that they saw his viewpoints shifting.

Speaker 5 And Tucker was therefore correct at charlie kirk's memorial um it was definitely the correct analogy when he spoke about these sorts of individuals who plot and lie and think that they are going to be successful in well murdering the truth in the story of jesus christ take a listen charlie would have loved this not just because he loved large groups of people but because ultimately he was a christian evangelist and it actually reminds me of my favorite story story ever.

Speaker 6 So it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up, and he starts talking about the people in power.

Speaker 6 And he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people.

Speaker 4 And they hate it.

Speaker 6 And they just go bonkers. They hate it.
And they become obsessed with making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking.
We've got to shut this guy up.

Speaker 6 And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamplit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us.

Speaker 8 We must make him stop talking.

Speaker 6 And there's always one guy with the bright idea and I can just hear him say, I've got an idea.

Speaker 8 Why don't we just kill him?

Speaker 8 That'll shut him up. That'll fix the problem.

Speaker 4 It doesn't work that way.

Speaker 6 It doesn't work that way. Everything is inverted and the Beatitudes tell it, I think, the most crisply.
Everything is sort of the opposite of what you think it's going to be.

Speaker 5 That is a fact. It will always be the opposite of what you think it's going to be when you are attacking people who are telling the truth.

Speaker 5 And the truth is, that is now an established fact, like I said, that Josh Hammer knew that Charlie Kirk's perspectives on Israel were changing.

Speaker 5 And since that announcement, Twitter users pointed out a very strange tweet that Josh Hammer hit send on 16 hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

Speaker 5 For no apparent reason at all, he retweeted something that President Donald Trump had sent a full 12 years ago about public executions. Here it is.

Speaker 5 Here is that retweet Trump wrote on April 19th, 2013, should be public execution for all to see. You will end this bull fast.

Speaker 5 And Josh Hammer just replies and says, base, you can see,

Speaker 5 this is, we are in central time, so that's about 9.05 p.m. Eastern time.

Speaker 5 Now, what is the justification for this? There might be one. I tried in earnest to at first rationalize it, right?

Speaker 5 What could have been going on that Josh Hammer decided to dig through the 2013 Twitter archives and retweet someone calling for someone, calling for a public execution?

Speaker 5 Well, I'll let one of the many Zionist PR agents explain it first. Shashar Ali, who, like I said, is quite literally paid to do PR for Zionists.

Speaker 5 I know this personally on the right and on the left, tried to explain it away by kind of lying, I would say.

Speaker 5 He tried to claim definitively that Josh was referring to the criminal who horrifically murdered the Ukrainian refugee, Irina Zarutska, in North Carolina.

Speaker 5 That was obviously a big story in the beginning of September. Yashar Ali wrote this.

Speaker 5 Last night, Candace Owens, quote, tweeted notorious neo-Nazi Sam Parker, who pointed out that Josh Hammer, who is Jewish and was a friend of Charlie Kirk's, elevated a Trump tweet from 2013 the day before, which called for public executions.

Speaker 5 Candice, of course, would like people to believe that Josh's quote tweet is suspicious in the context of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 5 But Josh was just sharing what many conservatives were sharing and stating the day before, that's because they were talking about the horrific murder of Irina Zarutska.

Speaker 5 This is where I say that no civilized nation uses the death penalty in parentheses, referring to his own thoughts.

Speaker 5 Now, another user then jumped on that and tried to establish a non-fact that the footage of Irina's murder was released on that day, on the 9th, and that's why Josh tweeted that.

Speaker 5 All of this is factually untrue. Okay.
Irina was murdered on August 22nd. Her perpetrator was arrested that same day, and the footage was released and trended on X on September 5th.

Speaker 5 Josh himself sent multiple tweets regarding the homicide, as everyone did, because like I said, it was trending.

Speaker 5 And when he was asked specifically about punishment, criminality, perhaps that her perpetrator should face, Josh, at no point that I could determine, whether he was on the news, whether he was on his own show or anywhere else, did he speak about the death penalty or, you know, a public execution.

Speaker 10 Instead, as you will see, and we will show you Josh in his own words, he spoke about the double standards surrounding the media coverage of her murder and really the topic of criminality more broadly and safety in america take a listen to what josh said you know gabrielle i'm i i i'm i'm a lawyer by training and i i remember my first year of law school back in 2013 when i was taking criminal law this is kind of the beginning of kind of the left's kind of foray into so-called criminal justice reform and even back then There's a lot of chatter among my more liberal classmates about how, you know, incarceration and prisons and locking people up, you know, how all of this is just racist.

Speaker 10 It's kind of like it is an old kind of symbol of a white patriarchal, colonialist, imperialist society there. And how the ultimate goal is basically to defund the prisons.

Speaker 10 And then, you know, if some people are going to commit some violent crimes, you know, essentially let the chips fall where they may. Well, you know, this is letting the chips fall where they may.

Speaker 10 But most American people have not lost their minds. Most American people stand where, where Donald Trump stands, which is

Speaker 5 I don't disagree that we all want basic safety. I just don't hear him.
And like I said, I've looked for it ever even calling for the death penalty in those days that were leading up.

Speaker 5 So I decided to do what I always do. Rather than say what he definitely meant or what he didn't mean, I decided to just create a micro timeline of Josh Hammer's tweets.

Speaker 5 And it gets pretty interesting on September 9th, the day before Charlie Kirk's assassination. This is what Josh Hammer tweeted.
He tweeted a total of nine times on September 9th.

Speaker 5 And you can gather what was going on at that day from his tweets. Wakes up at 7:30 A6, or rather, pushes the first tweet at 7:30,

Speaker 5 7:36 a.m., and he tweets about a viral viral Phillies crowd scandal. This is in Eastern Standard Time, by the way.

Speaker 5 Right after that, he tweets a link, the one that I just showed you, to his media appearance about Arena Zarutska, where he does not call for the death penalty or anything close to the death penalty.

Speaker 5 9.23 a.m., he tweets against Tucker Carlson because he has to do that at least twice a day, or I don't feel like he can get on with his day.

Speaker 5 9.29 a.m. He tweets in favor of Israel and throws shade at Trump and Qatar.

Speaker 5 And all of this is related to what went on on September 9th, which is that Israel bombed Qatar for no reason, violating international law, which they tend to do a lot.

Speaker 5 But he, of course, was in favor of what they were doing.

Speaker 5 And so he throws shade at Trump and Trump's relationship with Qatar, because I guess it would be okay for them to violate international law if Trump wasn't friends with Qatar or something.

Speaker 5 11:33 a.m., he tweets against Saudi Arabia because they came out and made a statement against what Israel had done. So he tweets against Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 5 And then at 3 o'clock p.m., he tweets against Tucker Carlson for telling the truth about Israel and 9-11. Again, he has to do that a couple of times a day.
It's part of his ritual.

Speaker 5 5.58 p.m., he tweets about the Hebrew Bible being the basis of Western civilization alongside a speech that he had given, tweets a link out. Again, promoting himself, 5.59 p.m., he tweets a promotion.

Speaker 5 of his media appearance regarding a Supreme Court decision. And then there's this three-hour break.

Speaker 5 He puts his phone down. Maybe, maybe, maybe this is a three-hour break where he speaks to Charlie Kirk.
I don't know, but I know that he speaks to Charlie Kirk at night.

Speaker 5 And then at 9.09 PM, again, we're talking Eastern and Josh Hammer tweets in favor of public execution. And there's no context that is provided.

Speaker 5 So anybody telling you he for sure meant this or he for sure didn't mean this is a liar. We cannot know that.
We cannot know Josh Hammer's thoughts.

Speaker 5 A couple of things that I want to point out, Josh is not saying in that tweet that he's calling for the death penalty.

Speaker 5 People calling for the death penalty, debating the death penalty is a very common political debate. It's a very common political talking point.

Speaker 5 It is absolutely not a typical or a regular political talking

Speaker 5 point or debate regarding public executions. We don't talk about that often.
It's an exceedingly specific ask, right?

Speaker 5 Usually reserved to a visceral response to something that you have seen and in the moment, right?

Speaker 5 Matt Walsh, actually, when we were prepping the show, I said, I will guarantee you that when that footage got dropped, which was on September 5th, four days earlier, Matt Walsh would have tweeted,

Speaker 5 this person should be publicly executed. And by the way, he did.
He did. He said, we can't keep living like this.

Speaker 5 The only solution is ruthless punishment, public execution for violent criminals, long prison sentences, hard labor. This guy had multiple previous arrests.

Speaker 5 He should have already been serving 30 years in the labor camp. This is the only way, as our ancestors knew, we've tried compassion compassion and restorative justice, and this is the result.

Speaker 5 It was inevitable. So Matt Walsh then went on his show and further explained that already contextualized tweet.

Speaker 5 And he explained how men have a visceral response when you see somebody being victimized, a woman being victimized in that way, that arena was.

Speaker 5 So we decided for good measure that we should check to see if maybe it was something regular that Josh Hammer also spoke about, which is public executions.

Speaker 5 And I can tell you that it is not something that Josh Hammer regularly tweets about or discusses. The first time that he tweeted about a public execution was back in 2013.

Speaker 5 And he said it in reference, I'm sorry, in 2022. And he said it in reference to the Boston Marathon bombing terrorist account.
I'm sorry, the Uvalde shooter.

Speaker 5 The Uvalde shooter is apparently dead, but just as with the Buffalo shooter, this level of pure evil would have been another ideal time for a public execution. So

Speaker 5 to be clear, that makes sense, right?

Speaker 5 He is in the moment and he is saying, I'm having a visceral reaction to the idea of another school being shut out,

Speaker 5 being having another school shooting. And for that reason, I am saying that this would have been an appropriate scenario for a public execution.
Emotions are running high.

Speaker 5 You are visceral and you're learning things. You're seeing and you're learning those things in the moment.
As I said, that would make sense in its context.

Speaker 5 I also want to remind you that Josh Hammer is a lawyer by training. He was at one point the editor at large of the Daily Wire and he is currently the senior editor at large at Newsweeks.

Speaker 5 Plus he hosts his own show. My point that I'm making here is he knows how to communicate.
Okay.

Speaker 5 This is not some random guy on Twitter who doesn't know that if you haven't tweeted all day about something, you can't just throw out tweets about public executions without contextualize them, right?

Speaker 5 He certainly understands you don't just send out a standalone tweet at 9 o'clock p.m.

Speaker 5 and everyone's just going to go, what are you referring to? He knows the public is not going to comprehend what he means outside of him providing some further context.

Speaker 5 And I will also add here that it is not particularly helpful that Josh Hammer as an individual is obsessively angry. He is an incredibly angry little man.
You can read through his tweets.

Speaker 5 He has openly expressed bigoted and prejudiced opinions against white people. Okay.
He does not view himself to be a white person. He views himself to be a separate race, Jewish.
That is a fact.

Speaker 5 And it wasn't a long time ago. We don't have to go back to 2013 to hear his ideas on that.
Here is a tweet from him in 2019 that he then erased regarding white people. Here's what he said:

Speaker 5 Jew hatred is inherent in the European DNA.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 Just like it's inherent. You're just inherent.
If you're white, you're inherently guilty. You're inherently an anti-semite.
It's just you're born this way. It's just in your DNA.

Speaker 5 It's incredible that he said that. And in response, we were told that he meant it metaphorically, which kind of

Speaker 5 metaphor. He run that tweet again.

Speaker 5 I do know a little bit about metaphors and similes and I'm not feeling Jew hatred is inherent in European DNA. How's that for a metaphor, guys, for you? Because I thought metaphor might be

Speaker 5 fire hair

Speaker 5 to describe somebody who's redheaded. Oh, no, it's not literally fire.
It's fire, fire red. No, I don't think

Speaker 5 a metaphor would be saying explicitly and literally that hating Jews is inherent inside of white people. I think it's amazing that he's even allowed, like, there's just no consequence.

Speaker 5 It's like, yeah, well, editor at large in Newsweek, what are you going to do? Eh, it's fine. You can hate white people.
We all know that. It's fine.
Totally fine.

Speaker 5 Anyways, that's what he thinks about you guys. Full stop.

Speaker 5 And people are maybe perhaps because of that, because of how he regularly treats people and how he regularly attacks people and how vicious he is, are not feeling particularly charitable towards him, especially having been exposed as somebody who lied so audaciously and boldly and repeatedly and unnecessarily about the pressure that Charlie was under, pressure which Josh Hammer was a part of applying in the weeks and then in the hours leading up to Charlie Kirk's death.

Speaker 5 Saddens me that Charlie was stressed and Charlie was worried and that the very people that were stressing him out and making him have that sense of anxiety and worry, then you eulogized him and lied about all that.

Speaker 5 Why lie? That's the part that the public does not understand. How can we trust a person that lies in that way?

Speaker 5 The natural thing is for us to then wonder, what else is Josh lying about? Would we trust if Josh came out and said that tweet was definitely about arena? Other people pulled Trump tweets.

Speaker 5 Some did, pulled that very tweet and called for a public execution. Would you trust Josh if he came out and said, I know I didn't contextualize it.

Speaker 5 And I know all day I was tweeting about Israel, but that one was about arena.

Speaker 5 Don't forget, he proudly went around and he promoted to everyone that would listen that he spoke to Charlie the night before he died, probably in that three-hour window.

Speaker 5 He bragged that he and Rabbi Walicki had a Zoom call with Charlie. Why? Because they said Charlie wanted them to help him with his talking points about Israel.

Speaker 5 Now, I have to say, Charlie was one of the most skilled debaters ever, like literally ever. Any person that I have seen actually debating on stage, I learned my debate cues from Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 5 So it is very new to me to think that they scheduled this call because he was in need of tips on debating from a rabbi over in Israel and Josh Hammer.

Speaker 5 But let's be real, I have no proof to the contrary because I wasn't on the Zoom call.

Speaker 5 And Josh made it clear multiple times that in his last conversation with Charlie, Charlie, above anything else, was really interested in Josh's book.

Speaker 5 So much so that in his literal first tweet after news broke that Charlie had in fact died, Josh manages to bring up his book. I'm not kidding.
Here's his tweet. He writes this.

Speaker 5 I am speechless, devastated, and heartbroken. We spoke less than 24 hours ago.
Charlie joked how he was going to plug my book on this very tour. He was a unique force, a generational leader.

Speaker 5 Pray for Charlie's beautiful wife and their young children. Rest in peace, warrior.

Speaker 5 And as you saw yesterday, Josh never forgets to plug his book. He never once forgot to plug his book.

Speaker 5 A few days after Charlie's death, he went on JTV, which is on the global Jewish channel, to discuss that call, that last call with Charlie further with a host named Ollie.

Speaker 5 And here is what Josh says about his book.

Speaker 11 We actually did speak for the last time less than 24 hours before the assassination happened. We had a Zoom call, a friend of mine, him, a couple of his producers.
It was a small call.

Speaker 11 We were literally talking above all about the anti-Israel questions that he expected to receive on this campus tour.

Speaker 11 And we were kind of talking him through talking points and strategy and how to deal with these expected hostile questions. And, you know, you held on my book, Israel and Civilization, Ollie.

Speaker 11 The last words I think Charlie spoke to me were, he literally said, you know, Josh, you know, when the Israel question comes up, I'm just going to plug your book, you know, Israel and Civilization, because I think that what you write in the book basically is how I feel as well.

Speaker 11 And that ends up being the last time that

Speaker 11 we spoke.

Speaker 5 Well, you heard him. It's like Charlie's final wish is for you to buy Josh Hammer's book.

Speaker 5 I mean, he's like, hey, he literally says the last thing he said to me actually was like, I'm just going to plug your book. What he wanted to do on this tour was just to plug Josh Hammer's book.

Speaker 5 And it's so sad that he never had the opportunity to plug Josh Hammer's book.

Speaker 5 Now, let's keep with this interview because he's going to be asked more specifically about certain characters in the movement that are trying to quote unquote hijack Charlie's legacy by telling the truth.

Speaker 5 And remarkably,

Speaker 5 he is going to work. I swear, it's going to work in his book again.
Take a listen.

Speaker 12 Precisely, as you, as you mentioned, there have been people who, like Ian Carroll, and it pains me to mention her name, Candace Owens, because I know how close she was and maybe still

Speaker 13 is to Charlie.

Speaker 12 But at the end of the day, she has chosen to hijack his death right now to blame it on Israel. I mean, it's just so disturbing.

Speaker 13 But then you have the people who are sort of a bit more in the middle.

Speaker 12 Maybe I wouldn't even say in the middle, but they're teetering a bit. The Megan Kelly's and the Michael Knowles and others, kind of in this in-between.
What do you think is going on there with them?

Speaker 11 Yeah, look, I mean, we can talk about every commentator one by one, but I think it's kind of easier to make a few kind of generalizations, right?

Speaker 11 I think a lot of folks are kind of just trying to take their commentary to where they see the perceived momentum, especially among the younger generation there.

Speaker 11 But so I think a lot of it is trying to kind of, you know, stick your finger in the wind and try to see, you know, where Gen Z is and also really, I mean, above all, see kind of just where the Twitter algorithms are right now.

Speaker 11 I mean, it's very hard to look at someone like, let's take Matt Gaetz, okay? Matt Gaetz was a former Republican congressman from Florida. Now he hosts a show on One America News.

Speaker 11 Matt Gates and I were very friendly for a while. Okay.
He had me on his show back in March when my book came out. Ollie, he referred to my book as a battle map to save Western civilization.

Speaker 11 It was an extraordinarily kind segment. He was asking very intelligent questions.
He clearly had read the book. He was engaging with the material in it there.

Speaker 11 And a few months later, he's talking about Jewish supremacy,

Speaker 11 a term that has kind of like der Sturmer origins. And he's had all sorts of horrible guests.

Speaker 11 I mean, does someone like that like actually flip that quickly based on like literally from March to June or July? No, of course not. I mean, it defies common sense.
It defies reality.

Speaker 11 That's obviously not what's happening there.

Speaker 5 I think it's just profound cynicism.

Speaker 11 It's trying to kind of just play for clicks, play for money, and trying to kind of generate some viral clips to appease a small but very vocal and very online segment of the American right and of the American internet user base there.

Speaker 5 I just love that he doesn't even blink as he goes from promoting his book again to then accusing people of wanting money.

Speaker 5 It's just incredible as he's completely grifting off of Charlie's death by trying to promote his book as like Charlie's last wish.

Speaker 5 It's really amazing. Also, why does Michael Knowles randomly catch astray? Like what's Michael Knowles been up to that he's like now on their list?

Speaker 5 Michael Knowles, Megan Kelly, they're listing them. That's coming next.
Okay. Inevitably, it comes inward.
I just want to be clear in case, um, what he's saying is not registering to you correctly.

Speaker 5 So, white men, to the extent that you are willing to get out there and work to serve

Speaker 5 really his book, to sell his book, to serve his interests, which are very clearly Israel, you're cool. You know, no one's going to call you a semite.
Everything can be cool.

Speaker 5 Um, to the extent that you, I don't know, maybe don't want to do that, you will be ruined. Matt Gaetz, what was he thinking? It's crazy.
Like, what on earth was Matt Gaetz thinking?

Speaker 5 It was great when he was out there pitching Josh Hammer's book, and now he can't be saved.

Speaker 5 But then, and this is where it gets important, Josh Hammer gets even more specific, addressing the question, if Charlie was beginning to crack on his support for Israel.

Speaker 5 Let's not forget, we already know. The answer to this is yes.
So looking at this hindsight 2020 really is something. Take a listen.

Speaker 11 If he is what, or if he was going in a direction that Candace Owens and others say he was going in, you know, very, very simple points.

Speaker 11 Would he have had on me and our friend Rabbi Pesach Walicki literally the night before his death to spend an entire hour talking about how to respond to anti-Israel talking points?

Speaker 11 I mean, it doesn't make any sense. It literally simply does not make sense.
His heart was absolutely in the right place. Again, he was trying to navigate kind of some very choppy water stuff.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It really doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 Charlie was just on the phone looking for talking points, trying to navigate some choppy waters with how he was going to address these kids that had some questions about Israel.

Speaker 5 He didn't, he was unflinching, but he gratefully had Josh Hammer's book and wanted to go through it and make sure that he remembered everything. Now,

Speaker 5 this is probably also a great time referring to that little conference call they had, whatever it was, a Zoom call, to tell you that that rabbi, Rabbi Walicki, was also on the now infamous text chain.

Speaker 5 So, this means that both of those individuals knew exactly where Charlie was at on the topic of Israel and how he felt leading up to that moment of his death.

Speaker 5 And again, like I said, two weeks before that in the Hamptons, they knew where he was at. Tucker Carlson told you the truth on his stance on Bibi Net and Yahoo.

Speaker 5 Nobody wants to address or answer the question of whether or not when Bibi Net and Yahoo invited him to Israel, what the context was of that.

Speaker 5 Do you think that guy guy who's fighting a 140,000 front war because he keeps picking fights and pretending he's a victim, really just has time to pick up the phone and shoot the breeze with Charlie Kirk, whose number, according to the released letter, he didn't even have in May.

Speaker 5 So what's he calling them about? They obviously weren't close if he didn't have his number, okay? So what's he calling Charlie about?

Speaker 5 Why is he inviting Charlie to Israel two weeks before he dies, right? Nobody will address that Charlie said no.

Speaker 5 He did. He said no.

Speaker 5 He didn't flinch. He wasn't even flinching.
He was just busy and couldn't make it out to Israel or something. Now, I will say that regarding Rabbi Walicki,

Speaker 5 I think he has more of a conscience and soul than Josh Hammer. I haven't seen him promoting his book.

Speaker 5 He doesn't lie as audaciously and as repeatedly and tweet nearly as neurotically as Josh Hammer does.

Speaker 5 But I want you to listen to what he had to say when asked whether or not Charlie was turning on Israel. Give us our hindsight 2020, Rabbi Bolicki.

Speaker 5 The wild conspiracy theories online, on social media, claiming that Israel and the Mossad are behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk because he was turning on Israel.

Speaker 5 Now, you spoke to him just hours before his death. Did you feel that that was the case, that he was in fact turning on Israel?

Speaker 15 Look, Lidar, I was in touch with Charlie on an almost daily basis for months. And he certainly had

Speaker 15 some disagreements with Israeli policy. And he criticized Israel where he felt appropriate.
He sometimes believed things, like a lot of people do, that are out there in the media.

Speaker 15 And that was really the substance of our relationship, was checking on things and finding out the truth. But that doesn't mean that he was immune to the negative sentiments that were out there.

Speaker 15 And there were a lot of people around him in the America First Movement who were actively working on him to try to get him to turn on Israel.

Speaker 15 But the real answer to your question is the meeting that I had with him.

Speaker 15 And the entire purpose of the meeting called by Charlie, Charlie called this meeting and it was on our schedule for weeks, was that he was going out on a campus tour.

Speaker 15 Utah was the first stop on his new campus tour. And what a lot of people in Israel do not realize or in the pro-Israel community do not realize is that between 40 and 50%

Speaker 15 of all of the questions and challenges that he would get on these campus tours were usually about Israel.

Speaker 15 Because the campuses, of course, have a lot of anti-Israel sentiment, and Charlie was known as a supporter of Israel. So he ended up being in a position where he was defending Israel all the time.

Speaker 15 And it drove him crazy because he wanted to talk about America, but he was defending Israel all the time.

Speaker 15 So in preparation for this new campus tour, he called a meeting of a few people that he trusted.

Speaker 15 to talk about Israel issues and to anticipate the questions that he would be getting, the challenges that he would be getting on this campus tour, and to make sure that he had the truth and that he could formulate answers that he was comfortable with.

Speaker 15 If Charlie had turned on Israel, why would he even bother with a meeting like that?

Speaker 15 Why would he call a meeting with a few pro-Israel friends of his to talk through Israel issues, to make sure that his facts were straight and his talking points were straight, so that he could defend Israel better?

Speaker 15 If he was turning on Israel, he would have had Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson in the meeting planning to throw Israel under the bus. The entire entire premise of the meeting refutes that theory.

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Speaker 5 How are you feeling about that? Now that you know that

Speaker 5 Charlie actually mentioned both Tucker and Candace 48 hours earlier as they were trying to do what they always do, which is control who he's allowed to speak to, control who I was allowed to speak to back when I was within

Speaker 5 the Zionist movement and waking up and realizing something was dangerously wrong when they started to try to control my voice.

Speaker 5 It's unbelievable. It's really unbelievable to reflect on that.
Now, I will say again, Rabbi Walicki, more of a soul. He's at least acknowledging that something was going on, right?

Speaker 5 I don't think he would have been comfortable pulling the jaw. She was great.
It was amazing. Buy my book, right? He loved every second.
He's amazing.

Speaker 5 Oh my God, he wished, just wish he could have gone over. The one thing that hurt Charlie Kirk the most was that he would never be able.
to wear an IDF uniform. He just wanted to go fight for Israel.

Speaker 5 That's kind of the vibes that they were trying to put out there. At least Rabbi Walicki is like, he was under some pressure.
Okay.

Speaker 5 He's saying it softly, but he's like, he was kind of needing to have a conversation to say, he's not comfortable answering these questions anymore because it doesn't feel this way anymore.

Speaker 5 He realizes something is wrong. I told you he was particularly worried that Israel was infringing upon speech in America.
I have text messages to that effect. Okay.
So there's no undoing that.

Speaker 5 He was aware that they had lost the PR war and it was weighing on him that he was seen, as Rabbi Walicki accurately states, as this person who just defends Israel, especially when what they are doing is so plainly immoral.

Speaker 5 It was starting to fracture people's viewpoints of Charlie, right? And Charlie, like I said, when he got into this, like when I got into this, we were genuinely pro-Israel.

Speaker 5 There was nothing, there was not payment that was coming in. It was, there was Ignorant? Yes.
I've owned that a thousand times. I thought it's not a relevant topic.
And it seems makes sense.

Speaker 5 You know, the low-hanging arguments make sense. Why can't they have your own country? Whatever.
I focus his BLM. He was always genuine.

Speaker 5 And I think, as I've said, he was genuinely over it towards the end because

Speaker 5 of

Speaker 5 Jewish behavior. His words, not mine, leaning into the stereotypes of Jewish behavior.
Okay. He didn't want to be bullied.
He was being bullied. They knew that he was being bullied.

Speaker 5 And yet they want us to believe that less than 48 hours before he died, Charlie announces that.

Speaker 5 He announces that he has no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of Jewish donors and their behavior, living up to these stereotypes.

Speaker 5 And despite this frustration, 48 hours earlier, the following day, he decided to have that smaller audience with two Jewish individuals who were on that chat and were aware that he was angry.

Speaker 5 But this conversation was not going to be a follow-up or in relation to what he had just expressed hours earlier to them both, but rather he was just like a super fan of Josh's book.

Speaker 5 He's like, gosh, this is amazing. This book is amazing.
I want to get on the phone with the author. What a wonderful opportunity to speak to the author.
I love this.

Speaker 5 Tell me to come up with this idea for the book. I want to hear more.

Speaker 5 And also, I'd like to strategize on how to deal with the questions that are coming at me using and promoting your book. That's what Josh wants us to believe, at least, right?

Speaker 5 And then we're supposed to believe that he had that dramatic switch. So he went from, I'm done, to like, hey, love you.
How can I be of more service to you?

Speaker 5 And then in that exact same day,

Speaker 5 he was texting people saying they are going to kill me.

Speaker 5 On the same day that he's on this Zoom call, this is a fact, this night Zoom call, as Josh says it was at night, or the New York Post reported, I think, right, that it was at night, that at the same time,

Speaker 5 that same day, he's texting people saying they are going to kill me.

Speaker 5 And we are supposed to deduce from this that by they,

Speaker 5 what he really meant was Tyler Robinson. He meant they, them,

Speaker 5 duh, like a non-binary person or a trans person,

Speaker 5 they were going to kill him. That was what he had a feeling about.
And everything else is just completely irrelevant.

Speaker 5 He

Speaker 5 just had a sense, a premonition that a trans person was going to get him. Do you believe that? Do you buy any of that? And I want to say this.

Speaker 5 I was speaking to somebody earlier about how interesting it is that none of us, and I'm not saying none of us, I'm talking about Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, myself, when we were speaking honestly and accurately about what Charlie was going through and how he was being bullied and how he was under pressure.

Speaker 5 And Megan even spoke about it herself, by the way, Megan.

Speaker 5 You should probably tell people who those individuals are.

Speaker 5 We never once said that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I've never said that because on the basis of the facts that you guys are following on the show, I don't have any evidence of that.

Speaker 5 It doesn't serve me to make up a narrative that I can't prove, right? Why would I say that? What I will say is that I am uncomfortable with how many lies.

Speaker 5 People that support Israel have been telling in the wake of his death. That has been almost the only compelling argument that Israel had anything to do with it is the way they're acting right now.

Speaker 5 Like Bibi Net and Yahoo, the propaganda, the lies, the coming after Canison's, none of this was necessary. Nobody thought when this first happened, this is 100% Israel.
100%.

Speaker 5 This happened in Mormon country. How come there were no Mormon people, no Mormon presidents coming out and saying, I just want to be clear that we didn't kill Charlie Kirk 24 hours after he died?

Speaker 5 Because that's what Bibi did. How come there were no Mormon people that started Operation Mormon pastor or president feeling the need to baselessly attack me? I was actually on the Mormons.

Speaker 5 I've been on the show calling them out by name, saying who was doing what. Mormons were not offended by that at all because they want to know if somebody is corrupt and had something to do with this.

Speaker 5 They want to know if their church was involved in this. That's a normal response, not to say,

Speaker 5 it definitely wasn't us, but rather to say, I'm on this journey. I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk too.
And I'm therefore going to support Candace's efforts to find out.

Speaker 5 Exact opposite of what Israel is doing, right?

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Speaker 5 Okay, first, I want to put out an I think cops call it an APB. What does it actually stand for, Mark? I'm not a

Speaker 5 all points bulletin. See, you're never too old to learn something.
And of course, Mark knew that instantly. All points bulletin.

Speaker 5 Mark has got a lot of random facts about every subject up there in his brain. We're not really sure why.
First order of business, I got to put out this all points bulletin.

Speaker 5 I'm looking for footage on UVU campus, some particular footage from people that were there that day.

Speaker 5 And I want to be real specific here so we don't clog up the inbox because obviously when you send footage, it's a bigger file.

Speaker 5 I'm looking for video footage of any older males, okay, any older males that day that have long hair that was up in a ponytail or a bun.

Speaker 5 So if you are a UVU student or you know someone who was a UVU student, please send this around and ask people to send me their footage.

Speaker 5 I just want to see footage of men that have their long hair, enough hair, that it's up in a ponytail or a bun. There is, of course, a specific reason why I'm asking for that.
Also, there,

Speaker 5 in me scouring the earth for every piece of footage, there's an almost incomprehensible lack of footage that is coming from the left side of Charlie, meaning if Charlie is facing the crowd, it would be his left side.

Speaker 5 So we have gone ahead and highlighted for you where I am looking for footage from. Okay.
I can't find. footage from this section.

Speaker 5 Chris, if you could go back to that first one again too.

Speaker 5 This section right here, if you were sitting here or go to the next one, all on the side, when the shots rang out or just before,

Speaker 5 maybe in the 10 minutes before, so I can see who was around or what happened when those shots rang out. It is weird.
There's just a, it's like a black hole.

Speaker 5 Cannot get footage of that angle from the front. You're probably going, well, doesn't Turning Point have that footage?

Speaker 5 Well, Turning Point, as we have learned, is not going to show anybody anything in in 4K or in 5K.

Speaker 5 I think because that would be helpful or something. So we have to do it this way, the organic way, which takes much more time.
You know, I do want to say this as well.

Speaker 5 You can send that, by the way, to tips at candaceowens.com. We also have more tips at candaceowens.com.
And please just put

Speaker 5 in the subject line, footage at UVU. That would be very easy.
It would help us sort things. We've kind of been cleaning up the inbox.
Again, more tips at candiceowens.com or tips at candaceowens.com.

Speaker 5 You know, somebody I was speaking to earlier today was speaking about,

Speaker 5 you know, the anxiety that Turning Point is going through. I do want to say this first and foremost because I felt this way at previous companies.

Speaker 5 There are amazing people that work at Turning Point USA, the overwhelming majority of them. And that's what sucks when corporate people at the top take a direction.
Those people get no say, right?

Speaker 5 This investigation is being assisted by Turning Point USA, not the execs, but turning point people on the ground, people that they don't even think about, smaller employees, like they deeply care about what has happened.

Speaker 5 They deeply care about finding answers regarding what happened to Charlie Kirk. And so we never want to paint a broad picture that this is, this is turning point.

Speaker 5 The top is is most certainly not the bottom and somebody was saying you know what if this what you're doing uh destroys turning point usa and i said you know what this is what i always say

Speaker 5 if the truth is capable of destroying your company the truth then does your company deserve to exist

Speaker 5 think about that if i'm like if people learn the truth about how Candace Owens treats her employees, Candace Owens isn't going to have a career.

Speaker 5 If people learn the truth about what Candace Owens does in the weekends, it will destroy her career.

Speaker 5 Like that probably means that you're not a good person or you're not a good company if the truth is a threat to you. I've heard this argument over and over.
I've never been fearful.

Speaker 5 And obviously, I'm kind of constantly going through a public x-ray, a public x-ray of my life, people examine me. I'm never fearful because I think I'm a decent person, right?

Speaker 5 I live honorably, don't make mistakes. Yes, I own my mistakes immediately.

Speaker 5 And I will be very quick to apologize to people when I get things wrong, but I'm not an evil person, nowhere near an evil person. And I always try to be honest.
And so do not concern yourselves with

Speaker 5 people that feel threatened by truth, right? That's, that's ridiculous. Anyway, speaking of which, obviously you can see right now, the Zionist lobby hates me and Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 5 It is like nothing anybody has ever seen in their lives. This past year, they've really upped the ante on trying to destroy me and Tucker Carlson.
The hatred is deep, it's sinister, it's evil.

Speaker 5 Um, and they have sent virtually every foot soldier that they have available to attack us repeatedly, right? Attack us repeatedly, make videos. People get confusing.
What is it? Is she lying?

Speaker 5 Why is she saying this? Is this the right time? It's actually getting quite boring, I think. It's a little boring.
I would almost describe their strategy as blitzkrieg.

Speaker 5 I don't want want to be accused of being a Nazi or using these two German words, blitzkrieg, but it has been something like bombardment and a bombardment.

Speaker 5 And this morning, they sent out Dinesh D'Souza after me. It's very, very convincing, by the way.
He sent out a tweet to convince people that they shouldn't watch me.

Speaker 5 He said, I can't comment on Candace because it's quite obviously a freak show. It's like driving on the highway and seeing a farmer having sex with a sheep.

Speaker 5 You don't want to look, but you can't look away either. The problems begin when you try to analyze it.
It is what it is.

Speaker 5 And I love that Ishar Ali replies and says, this is what I mean. These are the people who are supposed to be combating Candace Owens.
Instead, they tweet stuff like this. Yeah, hi, Dinesh.

Speaker 5 Kind of weird, man.

Speaker 5 We cannot relate.

Speaker 5 I got to tell you,

Speaker 5 if I ever was in this awful scenario where I saw a farmer trying to have sex with a sheep, I feel very much that I could not only look away, but I could call the police. Okay.

Speaker 5 So if that's kind of what you're selling. You know how like when you can't look away from bestiality.

Speaker 5 Dinesh, you want to know your opinion on me, not what's on your laptop and how they maybe blackmailed you. Okay.
That's not what we're interested in, Dinesh D'Souza.

Speaker 5 And he's like, well, I meant that as a joke. You didn't mean it as a joke.
You went seriously and it was weird. It got weird very quickly.
And we learned more about you than we learned about me.

Speaker 5 That seems to be the circumstance. It's like a complete boomerang.
But yeah, this is, they're really starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel and finding people and they're into some weird stuff.

Speaker 5 So I would say, think Janesh Souza. If you thought that that was going to be relatable and convinced people, yeah, I totally agree.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's like, just can't look away from that stuff when you see it.

Speaker 5 I, that did not happen. That did not happen.
Now, because they are seriously increasing

Speaker 5 and being, I would almost say, erratic in their behavior, obsessive, erratic, neurotic, there is a real risk here, right?

Speaker 5 I do not accept, and do you guys, that Charlie Kirk lost his life because he really pissed off the trans lobby.

Speaker 5 It terrifies me to think that on the day that Charlie died, I got multiple phone calls from people

Speaker 5 who said that

Speaker 5 me and Tucker should lay low because we're also on the list. And they never told us who specifically told them that, by the way.

Speaker 5 Now I'm wondering why they never told us who specifically told them that. I called Tucker, I'm like, I'm hearing, you're hearing the same thing.
I'm hearing they're saying that we're next.

Speaker 5 And now I go, was that supposed to be a threat to me and Tucker?

Speaker 5 To have us watch the public execution of a friend of ours and then to call us and to say, you should lay low for a little bit because you guys were hearing that you guys are on a list.

Speaker 5 Was that supposed to be a threat? Because why wouldn't you be more forthcoming with exactly who you heard that from?

Speaker 5 And I said, I remember saying, I was like, did the feds say this?

Speaker 5 Who said this specifically? Because why aren't they calling me and Tucker?

Speaker 5 Why am I calling Tucker and telling him about this? And I did. He will tell you that the day that Charlie Craig was shot, this really happened.

Speaker 5 And I'm coming out of the grief stage and realizing I think that was an element of this

Speaker 5 to send a signal to shoot him in the throat,

Speaker 5 right?

Speaker 5 To say, say, we took out his voice and we will take yours out too.

Speaker 5 And that's terrifying and that's real. And these people that we are fighting are dangerous, okay? Do not underestimate them.

Speaker 5 They are dangerous and they are haughty and they are growing increasingly desperate and panicked people that are evil in this way are not people that you wanna, that you wanna play with, right?

Speaker 5 People are nervous. Everyone is feeling it.

Speaker 5 And that's why I decided that I don't know what's gonna to happen. Okay.
I don't know how many days I have on this planet. I do know what I'm fighting for.

Speaker 5 And I do know that this life is not it. It's not.
I'm telling you guys, it's not.

Speaker 5 The people that want you to believe that it is, people that pulled you away from your faith in the first place, as I'm trying to demonstrate to you, did it because they knew they could further enslave you.

Speaker 5 They want you to be fearful of death. They want you to think it's it.
They want you to think it's lights out and that everything is over and that you are not a soul, right?

Speaker 5 Because then they can get you to do things to guard what you have in this world.

Speaker 5 Follow their rules to do things that you know are wrong because you need the money.

Speaker 5 It indoctrinates you into their matrix. What I wanted to do, as I discussed yesterday and which got picked up, was to create a kill switch, right? To realize that Kanye was kind of right.

Speaker 5 Never too late to say that Kanye was right.

Speaker 5 Kanye

Speaker 5 said that in order to be free, you had to violate these contracts. You had to recognize that your voice is being controlled.
And Kanye did just that. It was really an act of bravery to free himself.

Speaker 5 But I have no doubt for the same people that were torturing Kanye, the same people that were torturing Charlie Kirk,

Speaker 5 Kanye died today, would be the first to eulogize him. I feel that.
I do. I feel that.
And I think it's important to share that information as Kanye sent me all the messages.

Speaker 5 People who were threatening him, I have them all.

Speaker 5 To information share with Max Blumenthal, with people, Village, I mean, people all over the place to send a package and say, if anything happens to me and it looks suspicious, release it all.

Speaker 5 You know, it's not even about having an opposite and equal reaction. I want it to be an unequal reaction.
I want it to be a mistake because people, it catalyzes people waking up and learning

Speaker 5 exactly how this matrix works.

Speaker 5 And Alex Jones brought this up on his show,

Speaker 5 my Kill Switch. Here's what he had to say.

Speaker 14 Boy, did she lay the traps for him?

Speaker 14 She comes out and says, yeah, Charlie was calling me. He wanted me out of his events again and all the rest of it.
And

Speaker 14 he was also really concerned about the Israel lobby coming after him. And they said, you're a liar.
Charlie didn't like you.

Speaker 14 Charlie didn't like you. Charlie didn't call you.
He didn't text you.

Speaker 14 And so she let him say that for a few weeks and then released it,

Speaker 16 the text.

Speaker 14 And then she said, yeah, he was really upset with the Israel lobby and said he was breaking with them entirely. He wouldn't be bullied by them in the weeks before he was killed.

Speaker 14 They said, you're a liar. That's not true.
So she released those two days ago.

Speaker 14 Now she says she has the proof, and it's text messages

Speaker 14 that he feared for his life in the two days and the day before he was killed.

Speaker 14 And predictably,

Speaker 14 they're already saying

Speaker 14 she's a liar.

Speaker 14 And she's she's going to release those.

Speaker 14 And she's also sent out

Speaker 14 the dead man switch,

Speaker 14 just like

Speaker 14 James O'Keefe did to myself and a few others before he released the stuff on Prince Andrew, which is dangerous, by the way, proving that he indeed raped the girls and cover it up.

Speaker 14 People are like, we already know that. How's that daring?

Speaker 14 Oh, you're going to release the total proof on the King of England's brother uh yeah that's dangerous so those of you saying oh keeve doesn't risk his life and all the stuff he's been through and been arrested and indicted and raided

Speaker 14 try putting on his shoes for a while before you sit around and say that he didn't do anything man's a champion

Speaker 14 but but the point is is that this is a real dead man switch she has sent out it to the tate brothers dave smith max blumenthal turke carlson and others well i'm trying to get her on for weeks i'm a little bummed out she didn't send it to me

Speaker 14 because i'd like to stand with her, but we do stand with her. So they're already out saying she's a liar.
She's going to release that.

Speaker 14 Now, this doesn't prove Israel killed him

Speaker 14 or a lobby around that.

Speaker 14 Because I've seen no evidence. You know, they said his security detail was Israeli.
They weren't.

Speaker 14 It was just the first knee-jerk reaction. I said, you can certainly say Israel's a suspect, but I said, I need to see proof.

Speaker 14 We need to figure out the ballistics and who really shot him and all that before we then,

Speaker 14 you know, start saying, saying, okay, motive. I mean, you can always look at motive, but first with the forensic situation, are they covering it up? What's the ballistics? That's just where I am.

Speaker 14 I'm not going to just say something

Speaker 14 because people think it.

Speaker 14 But when she releases this, she's got it, make no mistake, just like she keeps bringing the goods and she just sets the hook with the worm on it or puts the mousetrap out with the cheese on it and they come out and say, you're a liar.

Speaker 14 And she goes, boom, you're a liar boom you're a liar boom you're a liar boom

Speaker 14 bam

Speaker 14 so

Speaker 14 and she'll let him you know for a week or so kind of stew and say she's a liar and then she'll just release it and then what she's saying is you kill me it doesn't matter it's coming out

Speaker 14 and the word is he specifically thought israel was going to kill him

Speaker 14 even when michael savage first few months ago said netanyahu needs to go on my show during the break. He goes, man, I hope Massad doesn't kill me.

Speaker 14 Cruise saw it, it was on the feed, and he didn't say it was off record.

Speaker 14 It was during the break.

Speaker 14 So there are a lot of groups that want Charlie killed.

Speaker 14 He was defeating the Democrats with TPUSA, got over two and a half million people to vote conservatively for Trump, was moving the needle big time, more than anybody with young people on colleges. So

Speaker 14 I see them as the motive. And they said, we want Charlie dead.

Speaker 14 They said they celebrated when he was dead. He had like six Trantifa

Speaker 14 say, Charlie will be dead tomorrow. Then they said, see, we told you.
And that was in the town. So, you know, we got Trantifa,

Speaker 14 the Tranny Antifa, running around, engaged in all sorts of violence everywhere.

Speaker 14 So I was like, okay,

Speaker 14 that fits.

Speaker 5 So you get the picture. I mean, I think, and he goes on to explain how we all feel, which is like, genuinely, we had no proof and no rhyme or reason to think or suspect Israel whatsoever.

Speaker 5 And it's really just been this insane behavior of covering up and lying that makes us question things. Like that's the reality.

Speaker 5 And by the way, questioning things doesn't mean that we have any proof that that happened, which is why we've been actually reticent to say that.

Speaker 5 But they're not acting right.

Speaker 5 And gut means something. They're not acting right.
None of them are acting right. That's not just turning point USA execs.
And I've tried to explain it away in my head a thousand times.

Speaker 5 Oh, well, you know, everyone's grieving, well, whatever, grieving and give them time. And

Speaker 5 then it just got to a place where I said,

Speaker 5 you know,

Speaker 5 this feels like something else.

Speaker 5 I don't know why they're telling little lies. And little lies only exist to cover up bigger lies.

Speaker 5 Anyways, you guys, all of that, I also do want to add here, show you a clip before we get into some of your comments, that it's also very good to not extend

Speaker 5 to everyone that is Jewish, the viewpoints of this very radical sect that has a lot of power in America.

Speaker 5 People like Josh Hammer don't get fired when they explicitly express that, you know, they hate white people, whatever. That's like, okay, on your resume.

Speaker 5 That's not the people, you know, this, that you went to school with. Like I grew up around the Dave Smiths of the world, right?

Speaker 5 And I always say I'm grateful that I did because when you engage into politics, what you see is so ugly that you just go, oh my gosh, like coming up, coming into stereotypes, you're living up every stereotype.

Speaker 5 But what you're seeing is the stranglehold of APAC. It is a political organization.
And I always say, if you look at any lobby in DC, it'll make you hate someone, right?

Speaker 5 Pharmaceutical lobby will make you hate the pharmaceutical companies. The Jewish lobby will make you hate Jews.
The black caucus will make you hate black people.

Speaker 5 And so people that go to DC are incredibly corrupt. Money rules them and they become powerful.
Power corrupts. Absolutely.
It's just good to remember that.

Speaker 5 And I found myself wanting to show you this joke. This is a comedian, John Marco Serezi, who is Jewish and just taking, he's making fun.

Speaker 5 This is what comedians do, making fun of himself makes everybody feel better. Just remember that there are people that are not like Josh Hammer.
That's kind of what the point I want to get across.

Speaker 5 Listen to this very funny joke by John Marco Cerezi.

Speaker 16 I celebrated most of the major Jewish holidays growing up. Passover was my favorite because you get to read it at the table.

Speaker 16 And then that's the story where the Jews were enslaved by the Pharaoh, and then Moses made the plagues happen, and then

Speaker 16 we escaped and we crossed the desert for 40 years.

Speaker 12 I liked it because it made Jews seem cool,

Speaker 16 but that was also kind of confusing. Because I was like, okay,

Speaker 16 how did we go from crossing the desert to now

Speaker 16 being known as generally

Speaker 7 frail?

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 16 I didn't know, I didn't understand until one day I went on vacation to Miami with my very Jewish girlfriend. And the moment we got to the beach, she was like,

Speaker 16 it's like a desert out here.

Speaker 2 And I was like, oh my God.

Speaker 16 What if Jews have been exaggerating this entire

Speaker 14 time?

Speaker 16 We got stuck in traffic on the way there. My girlfriend was like, let my people go.

Speaker 16 The beach was a little crowded. She said, there's like six million people here.

Speaker 16 Yeah, you got it.

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Speaker 5 That's fantastic. It's funny.

Speaker 5 And it's good to remind yourself that politics is serious all the time, but most of the people do not behave like psychopaths, and they're very funny and can make fun of themselves.

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Speaker 5 off. All right, guys, what do you guys think?

Speaker 5 Are you giving Josh Hammer a charitable read?

Speaker 5 Do you think that he was inspired?

Speaker 5 Because there were people that were bringing up that old tweet. They always pull it, they always say there's a Trump tweet for everything, and then people will pass it around for certain situations.

Speaker 5 Do you think that that was what he was doing in the context of what was going on that day, which was really the focus of his tweets, seemed seemed to be

Speaker 5 talking about Israel, as always, and

Speaker 5 going after Qatar and Tucker Carlson, as always. What are you guys thinking? Corey Henry, thank you for that donation.
Hey, sister from another mother, hire more security. I fear for you now.

Speaker 5 Please stay safe. Prayers for you and yours.
You are getting close. The phone call was then putting pressure on him.
Wow, just wow. Corey, I will tell you, Charlie owned the security company.
So

Speaker 5 that security company, you see what's around him, he owned it. He actually outright purchased a security company and it didn't matter.
And they didn't do anything.

Speaker 5 It clearly was an act of vanity. They should never be allowed to work again because why would you not have, I mean, he's a sitting duck.

Speaker 5 The amount that he was paying for that security for them to not check rooftops, you could have someone actually requiring that you have access to rooftops.

Speaker 5 You could have one of your guys on a rooftop. Wouldn't that be a good idea? I don't know.
I just, I don't understand it.

Speaker 5 Kelly Gibbs writes, my Catholic bestie and I keep you in our prayers. Thank you, Kelly, for this gift.

Speaker 5 Rosary and Divine Mercy, I pray that our Lord and Lady protect you and your family, give you wisdom and safeguard the pearl of great price, the faith passed down from the apostles. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 It's such a sweet comment. Jose Cruz writes, Candace, I love you so much.
May God bless you. Can you lightly, please don't stop.
A lot of love from Mexico.

Speaker 5 I'm not associated with Turning Point USA and I'm not a liberal. Please don't tear apart Turning Point USA because we need a movement for the youth.
Please tread lightly.

Speaker 5 Make sure you have all the facts because you are an important voice. Any youth movement must be based in truth.

Speaker 5 And like I said, Turning Point USA has fantastic people that worked and signed up to work for that company and dedicated their time with that company, whether even volunteers, people on college campuses, because they believed in truth and they knew they were getting it from Charlie.

Speaker 5 Right now, we are at a point. And I think John and Irina Mappin in that beautiful letter they wrote yesterday said it way more eloquently than I ever could.

Speaker 5 which is if you if you actually continue the legacy of Charlie, it means continuing to fight for truth. And to the extent that they do that, fantastic.
They will have an ally in me.

Speaker 5 I never attacked Training Point USA because I came from Training Point USA. And I saw what it took to build that company because I was a part of building that company.

Speaker 5 But to the extent that we feel that they've become so corporate that they're not answering our questions or making us feel ashamed for asking these questions or just like feeling like they don't care about getting to truth.

Speaker 5 I think it was very sloppy what Tyler Boyer did on X. He was accusatory.
He called people names. To that extent,

Speaker 5 they won't survive. That is just a reality.
I can't fix that, right? People will pick up on that. They will pick up on what feels like treachery.

Speaker 5 It will feel to them like a betrayal to Charlie Kirk's legacy because that's how it feels to me, right?

Speaker 5 We're all feeling it together. That's the point.
And so we offer this as a course correction for them.

Speaker 5 You know, I want to believe that they're just grieving in a weird way, that they have a ton of things on their plates. Maybe they're fearful for their own lives.
I don't know.

Speaker 5 But if that were the truth, they could still get the truth out to other people. And that is something I want you to know that Charlie was remarkable at.
And that's why I always defended Charlie.

Speaker 5 Never took the bait on people saying he's this, he's this. Charlie was very good at knowing.
He's the guy that'll get in the room. He was happy to schmooze.
He was a perfect diplomat and politician.

Speaker 5 And then he would call and he'd call like Tucker or me and say, you hit this, you go hard, you do this. I mean, he was, as someone put it today, he was a maestro.
He really was.

Speaker 5 He's like, that's the drum, you know. So we're going to need the bass.
You're going to need to be the strings. I'm going to play this.
And

Speaker 5 we're going to have a symphony. They're not working with the fighters.
It feels like they're working with the feds. They've said explicitly they're working with the feds.

Speaker 5 So I don't know what to make of that.

Speaker 5 But I hear you. I hear you.
And I feel the same way. I want Turning Point USA to survive, but I want them to be truthful first.

Speaker 5 Evie writes, thank you for that donation, Evie. It's giving Joey from friends.
Do they know that we know, no? Amazing work as always. Much love and support from Australia.

Speaker 5 And if anything, God forbid, happened to you, I promise we would all ride at dawn. Thank you.
I know that you guys would all over the world. And I know that you wouldn't know, but you would know, no.

Speaker 5 You know what I mean? Like we would know what happened. So there we go.
Angela writes, follow the money, it never lies. Christ is king, team Candace.
Thank you, Angela.

Speaker 5 MJ Ramon writes, that's what's done in the dark will be exposed in the light. Absolutely.
It is biblical. Angela Lewis writes, Mormon here, we love you, Candace.

Speaker 5 We just want truth and we are praying for you constantly.

Speaker 5 Yes, I do want to say shout out to the Mormon community for never accusing me of being anti-Utah, anti-Mormon, I don't know what, anti-Latter-day Saints. Sorry, I know nothing about your faith.

Speaker 5 But you have been assisting and that's been amazing. And you want to know, like I want to know, like we all want to know.
Can Erb writes, I realized something beautiful.

Speaker 5 Charlie wanted you on stage, AmFest. They tried to stop him, but in doing so, he made sure that you had an even bigger stage.

Speaker 5 He knew pulling back the veil on the current spiritual warfare needed to be shown by you on a global stage. Rest in peace, Charlie.
I feel that way. I do.

Speaker 5 I feel like everything that happened, and that's why I say I was always like his big sister, like it happened to me first.

Speaker 5 And it was very hurtful. It was hard.
And Charlie, it was hurtful for him because you believe they're your friends. Like I, I believed that.
I believe they wanted my, I just took it.

Speaker 5 I once retweeted Max Blumenthal and they made me think I was like the worst human.

Speaker 5 And I took them at their word before I realized that it was much more sinister. And

Speaker 5 I'm grateful thus far

Speaker 5 that I did not pay any greater cost than destroying my reputation and my name and trying to get me canceled everywhere. Dennis Domian writes, in times where deception grows, truth tellers matter most.

Speaker 5 Thank you, Candice. Your courage gives hope.
Greetings from Croatia, Crisis King. Tell you a story.

Speaker 5 I used to live in Croatia for a couple of months, about three months, working on a wedding in Dubrovnik. Josie Ells writes, God bless you.
We are rooting for you from Australia.

Speaker 5 I hope you're rooting for me to get into Australia. By uncovering the flaws in the U.S., you've opened our eyes to the demonism that we are under in our own government too.

Speaker 5 I can't wait for them to approve your visa so that we can can show you some Aussie love. Even that, you know, it's up to the Supreme Court or the High Court of Australia.

Speaker 5 And if it happens, even that was meant to be because I still can't believe that I'm like banned from, I got banned from a country. Like, what am I doing?

Speaker 5 That my country, I wasn't even going to speak about Israel and nothing. And yet the Zionist lobby grows up and like, she can't speak.

Speaker 5 I was going to speak about homeschooling and children and my backstory and race issues. And they were like, you can't come in.

Speaker 5 Okay, but you can still download my podcast on Spotify. I don't, I don't understand.
Henry Love writes The Spiritual War, thank you for being one of the warriors of light. Thank you, Henry.

Speaker 5 Rachel Ryder writes, I owe you an apology, Candace, as a former Dem. I am ashamed to admit that I've said some awful things about you.

Speaker 5 Wholly unwarranted that I deeply regret you're a brilliant, honest voice in a choir of crooks and liars. We don't deserve you.
God bless. You know what, Rachel? I'll apologize back

Speaker 5 because I

Speaker 5 was also partially blinded and I thought that it was just the left. You know, I was taking that low-hanging fruit of us warring against each other.

Speaker 5 And I've realized now, like, no, we're all actually fighting real evil and we're going to disagree along the way. You know, I don't think you should trans your children.
I'm against it.

Speaker 5 I'm very against it.

Speaker 5 But I also am more interested in where all of these ideologies are coming from. I'm more interested in the war against family.

Speaker 5 I'm more interested in waking everybody up by actually being more charitable in our interpretations of one another and what motivates us and less charitable to the government, right?

Speaker 5 Because they know exactly what they're doing. And that's the real risk.
That is the real threat to the government is the left and the right actually uniting.

Speaker 5 In fact, they were like angry when they were randomly, you know, they've just been treating Megan Kelly like a battered wife. And I know, I say something, she gets beat.
It's weird.

Speaker 5 But during that course of that, Constantine kissing when he was like, you need to make a statement against Candace and Tucker,

Speaker 5 somebody else was saying to her, Candice doesn't even hate the left anymore.

Speaker 5 Like that was supposed to be a convincing argument for Megan to trash me, like really trying to get us exist in that left-right paradigm. And it only serves them at the top.

Speaker 5 So I hope more of this, more realizing, and more coming together on the stuff that we can agree on.

Speaker 5 Miracle Media, lastly, writes Canis, as a Christian, you have the authority to fight any strife that comes your way.

Speaker 5 Recite and memorize Psalms 91, 120, 123, and I guarantee God's angels will protect your footsteps, your family from these evildoers. They are protection scriptures.

Speaker 5 I thank you so much for saying that. And we pray every day.
We really do. But everything is in God's control.
And we, I feel, are in a great period of revelation.

Speaker 5 And that is why we are also in a period of anxiety, because with that, the, you know, the demons commit further to their demonology. And

Speaker 5 we therefore have to commit more to truth. And yeah, that's basically all that I want to say today.
You guys, I have some bad news here at the very end. I am going to take next week off.

Speaker 5 I'm going to take about 10 days off, actually. I'll give you more details about that tomorrow.
But, you know, I just feel like I need to, I'm arriving at the acceptance phase.

Speaker 5 I will say the stages of grief was very real.

Speaker 5 And I just kind of want to take a little bit of time to really just kind of mourn Charlie in my own personal capacity and just kind of recognize I'm never going to see him again, never gonna talk to him again, and to say kind of bye in my own way and take a break and a breather.

Speaker 5 And so nothing bad is happening to me. I will still be sending an occasional Instagram wave so that you guys know that I'm fine.

Speaker 5 But I wanted to let you know a heads up what's going on there. Anyways, you would like to support our show, as many of you guys have, you can head to cannasoons.com.
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Speaker 5 And it's a parody because we don't want to be in CIA. We think there's a lot of corruption there, actually.

Speaker 5 I'm hoping one day my team will let me have the green hat. They never sent it to me.

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