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Speaker 4 Number one, she's laying on the floor and it's blood everywhere. It's right everywhere? Yes, Bab.

Speaker 5 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 He said, Bambi, your mom and daddy's dead.

Speaker 6 I just dropped the phone and started crying.

Speaker 7 It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 They were loved by everyone.

Speaker 8 The classic question that people in your mind of work pose is, well, who benefited?

Speaker 9 Bambi. She needed her stepfather and mother dead so she could get a property back.

Speaker 8 You got the daughter and the boyfriend who seemed to be in some sort of conspiracy, the theory goes.

Speaker 9 Well, an agreement to accomplish a goal.

Speaker 6 They surrounded me like a pack of wolves.

Speaker 10 They said, you did this, you.

Speaker 6 And I said, I did not.

Speaker 11 I resented her.

Speaker 12 I hated her.

Speaker 11 I didn't want to see her face ever again.

Speaker 12 Everybody rusts judgment in this case.

Speaker 12 There was blood that belonged to another person.

Speaker 8 At the scene.

Speaker 12 At the scene. Then all of a sudden, this blood has been identified.
You said they identified the killer. And I just started weeping.

Speaker 6 This cannot be happening.

Speaker 15 So many people's lives have been turned upside down. Their lives will never be the same.

Speaker 3 The old barn is a shambles now.

Speaker 3 The fields back in the day so lush and productive,

Speaker 3 gone to seed.

Speaker 3 The farmhouse empty.

Speaker 3 Time was the farmland in Horry County was some of South Carolina's finest.

Speaker 3 Bambi Bennett's granddad owned a big spread and created a legacy for the generations to come.

Speaker 6 That barn used to be tobacco barn, and my granddaddy built that.

Speaker 3 So it was a tobacco property, huh?

Speaker 6 He did farming and tobacco.

Speaker 3 Bambi's roots here are as deep as the old oak tree draped in Spanish moss that still stands tall in the front yard.

Speaker 3 They say land is worth dying for because it's the only thing that lasts.

Speaker 3 And truer words might never have been spoken. In this case, a beautiful piece of land turned out to be nothing but trouble.

Speaker 3 This is where Bambi Bennett's family was ripped apart by an act of cruel, unspeakable violence.

Speaker 3 Bambi, her given name, was a fun, feisty, good old girl, country through and through.

Speaker 6 Well, I was at my grandparents a lot growing up, and we gardened and we had a big yard, you know, a huge yard.

Speaker 3 You're a country girl.

Speaker 3 But she'd endured her share of heartache even at a tender age.

Speaker 3 Her parents divorced when she was just six. Mom remarried.
Then a few years later came that terrible day she'll never forget.

Speaker 6 My daddy

Speaker 6 and my granddaddy passed away on the same day. I was 12 years old.

Speaker 8 So all of a sudden you'd lost the two important men in your life? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 It was a bewildering and tragic day. There was so much sudden loss to absorb that young Bambi, not yet a teenager, paid no mind to her grandfather's and father's wills.

Speaker 3 But it turned out she'd been left the entire homestead, all 240 acres of it, to be held in trust until she turned 18.

Speaker 3 Not long after Bambi inherited the farm, her stepfather Charlie moved the family onto the property, her property. Most everybody called him Big Charlie.
Bambi called him Daddy.

Speaker 6 Daddy loved hunting and fishing and he always had fish fries and oyster roasts. There was always people down at the barn.

Speaker 8 You call your stepfather Daddy. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 Easily do that, huh? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 6 I've always called him Daddy.

Speaker 3 Big Charlie was a deacon at church, and he started a small business selling and installing glass, converting the old tobacco barn into his shop.

Speaker 3 Bambi's mom, Diane, worked as a secretary in the public schools. They were a respected, happy couple, salt of the earth.

Speaker 6 She was the backbone of that family.

Speaker 3 Bambi's cousins, Jessica and Amy, loved their Aunt Diane.

Speaker 6 If your car literally stopped in front of their house or broke down, she would go and make sure you had a meal or you were warm. And while she was doing that, Big Troy would be like fixing the car.

Speaker 3 Good mom? Fabulous mom.

Speaker 13 Outstanding.

Speaker 7 I mean, her biggest thing was she wanted to make sure her kids were protected and their hearts were protected.

Speaker 3 And her daughter Bambi would need a lot of protecting. The girl was growing up in a rush, married to her high school sweetheart and divorced after a few months.

Speaker 3 By the time she was just 24 years old, she had another failed marriage and was struggling as a single mom trying to raise two boys, Cody and Nathan.

Speaker 8 That had to be tough. Keep your household going, huh?

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 3 And things went from bad to worse. Bambi started popping painkillers.

Speaker 8 The old story, huh?

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 8 Just gobble them down when you can get them.

Speaker 6 them, huh? I like the way it made me feel.

Speaker 3 Bambi was a single mom, hooked on pills and sitting on a piece of land worth a small fortune.

Speaker 3 Diane decided it was time to intervene before, say, another whirlwind husband Dujour got half the property.

Speaker 6 Mama said, if you put it in my name, it will be protected.

Speaker 3 And so she signed the deed to her property over to her mom. And then Bambi signed over her heart, sending Cody and Nathan to be raised by their grandparents.
She calls it her lowest point.

Speaker 6 I didn't want to do it, but I knew it was the right thing. She wanted to take care of them.
She loved those children.

Speaker 3 It was a crushing loss, no question. But Bambi agreed at the time the boys were better off.
They loved Diane and Charlie.

Speaker 11 They're just very loving, like did a lot of outdoor stuff. I mean, they spoiled us to death.

Speaker 8 Nathan, Pablo.

Speaker 16 They're the most loving individuals I've ever met in my life. My grandma is the most sweet woman, and everybody says so.

Speaker 3 With the boys living at their grandparents, Bambi tried to get her own life back on track. That's when she met Rick Gagnon, a new hire at Charlie's Glass Company.
There was an instant attraction.

Speaker 6 I've always liked the bad boy image, you know, I guess. Like he had the goatee and the

Speaker 6 shaved head. I don't know.
We just had a good time together.

Speaker 17 Was it a serious relationship?

Speaker 6 Yes, it was.

Speaker 3 Rick was serious too. He confronted Bambi about her demons.

Speaker 13 I told her if, you know, she wanted to be in a relationship and she had to,

Speaker 13 you know, do something about the pills.

Speaker 3 By the spring of 2005, Bambi felt she had turned the corner. She and Rick found a home of their own in Myrtle Beach.
After a long struggle, she was ready to be a mom to her boys again.

Speaker 6 I was getting on my feet and I just, I wanted Cody and Nay there with us.

Speaker 3 Grandparents Charlie and Diane agreed very reluctantly to let the boys move in with Bambi and Rick. But no sooner had the boys moved than Diane was making the case to get them back.

Speaker 6 Mama was concerned.

Speaker 8 Did she want to hold on to the boys?

Speaker 6 She said that she would like for him to, you know, continue to stay with her.

Speaker 3 Boyfriend Rick thought Bambi couldn't catch a break with her family.

Speaker 13 Everybody pretty much treated Bambi like crap. It stemmed from you know issues that Diane, Charlie, and Bambi had.

Speaker 3 Those issues were simmering into an angry family drama. Then, just a few weeks after the boys were turned over, it happened.
It was April 12th, a Tuesday morning. Bambi called her mom.
No answer.

Speaker 3 Big Charlie was late for work. One of his barn employees went up to the house to look for him.
Moments later, he called 911.

Speaker 4 Number one, he's laying on the floor and he's blood everywhere. He's right everywhere.
Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 3 Inside, things were chaotic, an appalling sight. Big Charlie and Diane were dead.
And the old farmhouse they loved so well was now a crime scene.

Speaker 3 Some small, stray drops of blood might just provide a huge clue.

Speaker 9 It appeared that someone involved in the crime was a bleeder. So that's great evidence.
It is if you can match it up.

Speaker 3 The horror discovered inside that farmhouse confused both the caller and the 911 operator. But what happened to Charlie and Diane was all too clear.

Speaker 3 She was found lying next to her bed, Big Charlie sprawled on the bathroom floor. Each had been shot multiple times, both by then dead for hours.

Speaker 3 Horry County Sheriff Philip Thompson's cell phone erupted with calls about the shooting and he rushed to the scene, not to investigate. Charlie and Diane were his best friends.

Speaker 8 They weren't just mine. They were everybody's friends.
What we remember is how good they were, how kind they were, and what good people they were.

Speaker 3 Down at her house in Myrtle Beach, about 30 minutes from the crime scene, Bambi was getting ready to go antiquing with her mom. She called her cell.
One of Charlie's glass company workers answered.

Speaker 6 I said, can I speak to my mama, please? And he said, Bambi, your mom and daddy's dead.

Speaker 3 Just like that.

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 6 And I said, what?

Speaker 6 He said, Bambi, somebody's broke in here and killed him,

Speaker 6 shot him.

Speaker 6 And I just dropped the phone

Speaker 6 and started crying.

Speaker 3 When Bambi arrived at the house, yellow caution tape blocked her way. Police were everywhere.

Speaker 11 My mom was like freaking out.

Speaker 3 Rick tried to comfort Bambi. Young Cody turned to him too.

Speaker 11 And then I remember Rick, he was near me and I was crying on his shoulder.

Speaker 16 And

Speaker 11 Everybody was just kind of, it was a madhouse of it.

Speaker 3 In those moments, it seemed the whole county had gone mad. The murders of Diane and Charlie came hard on the heels of two other vicious killings nearby.

Speaker 3 Vivian Skipper was Charlie and Diane's neighbor. She runs a flower shop nearby.

Speaker 8 So tell me about the fear, Vivian. Is this the kind of thing you could feel in the air?

Speaker 1 You could feel it in the air.

Speaker 15 I was at the flower shop.

Speaker 8 Probably not too thrilled with the idea of getting in your car and driving away.

Speaker 1 I didn't even want to go home. It was pretty bad in H'rie County that day.

Speaker 9 When I first arrived, what I'm looking at is an opportunity to get oriented to the crime scene.

Speaker 3 The man responsible for making sense of the crime scene was Prosecutor Fran Humphreys, then Deputy Chief Solicitor for Horry County.

Speaker 8 Had the house been tossed, rifled?

Speaker 9 It had. And one of the first things you do is you look for things.
This appeared to be a home invasion burglary. First take on it.
First take. Home investigation.
No question.

Speaker 3 It was a gruesome crime scene. The bathroom awash in Charlie's blood.
There was blood spatter in the bedroom where Diane lay, but several feet from Diane, there were notably a few small droplets.

Speaker 9 It appeared that someone involved in the crime, not the victims,

Speaker 9 was a bleeder.

Speaker 8 Why couldn't that be from one of your two victims?

Speaker 9 It was apparent that Big Charlie never left the area of the bathroom. And it was apparent that

Speaker 9 Diane died where she lay.

Speaker 8 So it looks like your shooter, your intruder, is bleeding. Is bleeding.
So that's great evidence.

Speaker 9 It is if you can match it up.

Speaker 3 While crime scene techs processed the house, investigators started taking statements. Big Charlie and Diane had a large family and knew a lot of people.

Speaker 9 We talked with everybody. The list of people that we talked to is exhaustive.

Speaker 3 A parade of friends, employees, and family was brought down to headquarters for interviews, including Bambi and her boyfriend, Rick.

Speaker 6 They did gunshot residue tests on all of us.

Speaker 8 Including you?

Speaker 3 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 13 They had me remove my shirt, lift my pant legs up. They took my shoes, took pictures of my shoes, tops, bottoms.

Speaker 3 Both Bambi and Rick told police they'd spent the night at home, never left. With the interviews complete, police drove Rick and Bambi back to the farmhouse.
Everyone was gone.

Speaker 3 Bambi says she realized she'd left her purse with her phone and car keys in the detective's cruiser. She decided she'd take her mother's vehicle to get home.

Speaker 6 We didn't have any way to get in touch with nobody. We didn't have anything.
And I told Rick, I said, see if you could find find mama's purse or cell phone. And

Speaker 6 so he went in the house.

Speaker 3 Police had released the crime scene, but it still looked like one. Detectives told the family they would have to clean it up.

Speaker 3 So when Rick says he went in to fetch Diane's car keys, he found himself tiptoeing through a bloody mess.

Speaker 8 What were you seeing?

Speaker 13 All the blood and just one of the most horrible things I'd ever seen.

Speaker 3 Rick approached the bathroom where Charlie had been killed. He says he noticed Bambi through the window pacing in the backyard.

Speaker 13 She was calling out, you know, mama, mama. She was crying, screaming, and I stepped into the bathroom, tried to step around the mess as best I could, and I shut the blind.

Speaker 8 And you closed them because you didn't want Bambi to see the blood and gore.

Speaker 13 That's right. I remember saying to Bambi, I think I stepped into

Speaker 13 some blood in the bathroom, and I was

Speaker 13 wiping my shoe off on the sand.

Speaker 13 And she was telling me to wash my shoe so I didn't get blood in her mom's truck man that must have been eerie being in that house that night huh

Speaker 13 yeah extremely

Speaker 3 it was an eerie moment one that would haunt bambi and rick for years to come

Speaker 5 bambi makes a stunning admission that's been along my family

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Speaker 3 The cold-blooded killing of Big Charlie and Diane Parker had a great many people in and around Conway, South Carolina bolting their doors and locking their windows.

Speaker 8 Had you had any trouble in that neighborhood out in the countryside with break-ins?

Speaker 6 Not that I know of. I mean, it's always been

Speaker 6 a wonderful place. It just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 Prosecutor Fran Humphreys focused on the evidence coming from the Parker crime scene. He quickly came to believe this was more than just a bungled home invasion.

Speaker 9 It was apparent that nothing had been taken, or at least nothing that you would suspect to be taken in a burglary.

Speaker 3 Humphreys thought back to some curious statements Bambi had made in her interview with police, which she said she had given willingly. I'm sorry, I'm not.

Speaker 5 I'm not okay, but I want to help you.

Speaker 3 Soon after the interview started, Bambi, he said, began describing in detail a feud within her family.

Speaker 3 At issue was the land Bambi owned and that her parents were living on.

Speaker 5 Has been a long like family feud.

Speaker 5 Over the land.

Speaker 3 According to Humphreys, Bambi and Diane argued over who should control that property.

Speaker 9 Diane wanted to make sure that that property was there for the kids. I think she had become convinced that Bambi was not going to be in a position to manage that property.

Speaker 8 I love this girl, my daughter, but she's beyond hope. Is that the kind of the feeling?

Speaker 9 Well, she just can't be trusted with it.

Speaker 3 Bambi didn't agree.

Speaker 9 She wanted the property back.

Speaker 5 Had a lot of anger about that.

Speaker 3 But Humphries learned the land wasn't the only hot button between Bambi and her mother mother and stepdad. Bambi admitted they also argued over the raising of Bambi's boys, Nathan and Cody.

Speaker 18 Was there any issues where they didn't, where your parents didn't want the kids to go back to you guys or anything like that?

Speaker 5 Well, yeah. I understand my mama had kept them.

Speaker 5 And it was hard for her

Speaker 5 to give them back. At first, we were angry, you know, at each other and being ugly at each other.

Speaker 9 Diane just wasn't comfortable with Bambi having custody of his children.

Speaker 3 In fact, just four months before the murders, a mother-daughter shouting match over the care for the boys got so out of hand that Diane called 911.

Speaker 3 The responding officer arrived with his dash cam rolling just moments after Bambi had stormed away.

Speaker 20 I'm sorry to bother you. No, you're not bothering me at all.

Speaker 3 Diane explained the argument to the officer.

Speaker 6 She usually just does what she wants to do, gets them up when she wants to. She doesn't provide anything for them.

Speaker 3 Diane went on to say she felt threatened by her daughter.

Speaker 6 She scares me. She got in my face and tripped the phone out of my hand and I was calling her.

Speaker 3 And then came this chilling pronouncement.

Speaker 6 It's just a, but if anything happens to me, you'll know that she's the responsible person.

Speaker 9 How telling is that? She was in fear. In grave fear.

Speaker 3 Humphreys by now suspected Bambi was somehow involved in her parents' murders, but he was skeptical she could commit a double homicide on her own.

Speaker 3 So the prosecutor turned his attention to Bambi's boyfriend, Rick Gagna.

Speaker 9 He's aligned with Bambi. He was extremely faithful to Bambi.

Speaker 3 And according to Humphreys, willing to do anything for her.

Speaker 8 You got the daughter and the boyfriend who seem to be in some sort of conspiracy, the theory goes?

Speaker 9 Well in agreement to accomplish a goal.

Speaker 3 The alibi Bambi and Rick gave detectives that they were at home during the hours leading up to the murders was difficult to prove. Each gave the other as a witness.

Speaker 9 She said, we were at home. You know, Rick was there.
I was there. My boys were in the other room.

Speaker 3 The prosecutor began to wonder: could those mysterious blood droplets at the crime scene be linked to Rick and Bambi?

Speaker 9 DNA results did not come back. We didn't know who's blood.

Speaker 8 You didn't know who it was, but you knew somebody else was in the house.

Speaker 9 We didn't know it could have been Richard Gagnon.

Speaker 3 While Humphreys waited for those results, he obtained a search warrant and took another look at some of Rick and Bambi's belongings, including their shoes.

Speaker 9 There is blood on his shoe.

Speaker 8 What did the lab analysis say about that? that?

Speaker 9 It was Big Charlie's blood.

Speaker 3 The prosecutor didn't buy Rick's story about having stepped in blood while looking for Bambi's mother's car keys. Detectives also found what they thought was blood on one of Bambi's boots.

Speaker 8 So now you have two persons of interest, fair to say?

Speaker 9 Oh, no question.

Speaker 3 Ten days after the murders, Humphreys asked both Rick and Bambi to take polygraph tests. Both agreed.
and both showed deception.

Speaker 9 Rick Gagnon in particular showed deception.

Speaker 3 Police then then sat both Rick and Bambi down in separate rooms for another round of questioning. This time the gloves were off.

Speaker 5 Do you want to be charged with something?

Speaker 5 Are you charging me with that? That's my question.

Speaker 3 I didn't do anything. They hoped for a confession or at the very least that she'd give up Rick.
She didn't do either.

Speaker 5 You don't want to be charged.

Speaker 21 No.

Speaker 6 I'm not going to be charged because I didn't do anything.

Speaker 3 We're done.

Speaker 5 Lock your ass up. So you're not going to tell us anything.
Locked you up. Put some handcuffs on the table to jail and charge her with two counts of murder.

Speaker 3 But the detectives weren't done yet trying to break Bambi. On her way to her booking, Bambi said the hammer came down hard one more time.

Speaker 6 They surrounded me like a pack of wolves. They said, go get those crime scene photos of our mom and daddy.

Speaker 6 And I said, no, no, no. And I was trying to cover my face.

Speaker 6 And he was pulling my hands off of my face.

Speaker 10 And he said, you did this, you.

Speaker 3 Detective said the same thing to Rick Gagnon.

Speaker 13 They arrested me, and that's pretty much it. If Bambi did it, then I had to be a part of it.

Speaker 3 So there it was, a daughter and her boyfriend, partners in love, and suspected of murder. The alleged motive was basic.

Speaker 3 Get the deed to the land and resolve the custody issue of the boys in one bloody rampage. Horry County could sleep easier at night with case closed.
But was it case solved?

Speaker 3 A new family feud breaks out between Bambi and her sons.

Speaker 11 I had a lot of people in my ear saying that she did it. I resented her.
I hated her.

Speaker 3 Bambi Bennett sat in an Horry County jail cell, stunned. She had just been charged with two counts of murder.

Speaker 6 I thought, I'm just having a bad dream. This cannot be happening.
Not only were my parents just murdered, now I'm being accused of being the ones that killed them. I said, y'all have lost your mind.

Speaker 6 I said, this doesn't make any sense. I didn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 3 But to prosecutor Fran Humphreys, it made perfect sense.

Speaker 9 The motive is unavoidable in this case. Bambi needed her stepfather and her mother dead so she could get her property back.

Speaker 3 Property valued at north of a million dollars.

Speaker 8 The classic question that people in your line of work pose is, well, who benefited?

Speaker 13 Bambi.

Speaker 3 As for Bambi's boyfriend, Rick, Humphreys believed Bambi persuaded him to help her carry out the murderous deed.

Speaker 8 Gagnon is her puppet the way you see it. He's carrying out her orders.

Speaker 9 I think he's been her puppet from the beginning.

Speaker 8 What'd you think?

Speaker 13 I was

Speaker 3 scared to death. In cahoots with your girlfriend, Bambi.

Speaker 8 That's the theory, right?

Speaker 13 I guess so.

Speaker 3 But both Rick and Bambi said the prosecutor had it all wrong. They insisted they would never do anything to harm Diane or Charlie.

Speaker 3 And Bambi downplayed the family drama over the land despite calling it a feud during her interrogation.

Speaker 6 She wants the land.

Speaker 6 That is the most ludicrous thing ever. It was given to me by my daddy to begin with.
And even though it was in mama's name, if I wanted the land back, all I had to do was tell mama that.

Speaker 3 Also absurd, she said, was the allegation she'd kill her parents over disagreements about how to raise her boys.

Speaker 6 Who does not have disagreements ever with their mother or the father? Me and mama didn't always agree on the upbringing of Cody and Nay,

Speaker 6 but that doesn't mean I'm going to kill my mama because we don't agree. That is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 But by now, even some of Bambi's family believed she was responsible for her parents' murders, including Bambi's own sons, Nathan and Cody.

Speaker 8 You lost your grandparents in the most awful fashion, and then your mom is swept away from your life within minutes.

Speaker 11 It's just crazy. Like, you don't know who to turn to.

Speaker 8 When did you come to the idea that maybe she was the one that did this?

Speaker 11 It was a mixture of things. like i had a lot of people in my ear saying that she did it what i came to the conclusion was that she basically like

Speaker 11 put it in rick's head for rig to do it i only thought she had something to do with it from what i had been told like i resented her i hated her i didn't want to see her face ever again it seemed bambi's supporters were few and far between

Speaker 3 but one who did believe in her innocence was her attorney jim irvin Everybody rushed to judgment in this case.

Speaker 3 The way Jim Irvin saw it, the prosecution's case against against Bambi was a weak, circumstantial one that hinged on a bunch of theories as to motive.

Speaker 23 What always bothered me about this case, when you look at the gunpowder residue, there was none on

Speaker 23 Bambi.

Speaker 3 He said that one bit of hard evidence detectives thought they had against Bambi, what they thought was blood on her boot, turned out to be nothing.

Speaker 23 Detectives said, we got her. The DNA on this boat is going to belong to one of the two people.
They couldn't even say it was DNA.

Speaker 3 As for the polygraph test detectives said Bambi failed to pass, according to Irvin, those results were suspicious.

Speaker 23 The last question they ask is, have you told me everything you know about this case? If I ask a detective that same question, he couldn't pass it either. It's just too broad a question.

Speaker 3 Bambi sat in jail for six months.

Speaker 8 They were hoping she'd flip and tell them the story.

Speaker 23 That's exactly what they were hoping.

Speaker 3 Finally, the judge said, enough is enough. Prosecutor Humphreys had to let Bambi go.

Speaker 9 It became apparent to me that the evidence was not sufficient

Speaker 9 to bring her case to trial. Didn't have the goods.
There's one there.

Speaker 8 Wasn't there. And yet she's the foundation of your theory.

Speaker 9 There's no question about it.

Speaker 3 For the time being, Bambi was able to put Horry County Jail in her rearview mirror. And with it, Rick.
By now, Bambi had cut ties with her old boyfriend.

Speaker 8 Sounds like she had your back, Rick, and then she didn't.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 3 What had happened?

Speaker 13 Jail changed people, you know.

Speaker 3 Rick was hoping it would be just a matter of time before he too would be released.

Speaker 8 The forensics they had against you was no hair, there was no fingerprint, there was no DNA, nothing.

Speaker 3 But he did have Charlie's blood on his shoe.

Speaker 3 To Humphreys, that evidence was part of a bloody trail from the crime scene that was about to lead both the prosecutor and Rick Gagnon into a courtroom showdown.

Speaker 3 One of Rick Gagnon's fellow inmates comes forward with a damning story.

Speaker 9 He's been given a fairly detailed account of what occurred that evening or what the crime scene looked like.

Speaker 8 Stuff that hadn't been in the newspapers and all the news.

Speaker 9 That's not at all known.

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Speaker 3 Rick Gagnon was in a world of pain, locked up in the county jail facing two murder charges. He shared his woes with another guy in a jumpsuit, two inmates power walking together around the yard.

Speaker 13 We would walk around the pod, do laps.

Speaker 3 The jail yard buddy was named Robert Mullins, a petty crook who seemed strangely interested in Rick's troubles.

Speaker 8 Did he want to talk to you about the case?

Speaker 3 Was he grilling you? Yeah, all the time.

Speaker 13 All the time.

Speaker 3 But then it seemed everyone in this part of South Carolina wanted to know more about this case and its two beloved victims.

Speaker 3 It took three years, but in 2008, the state was ready to try Rick Gagnon for the murders of Charlie and Diane Parker.

Speaker 3 A camera was rolling as prosecutor Fran Humphreys began his case.

Speaker 19 This is purely motive evidence which establishes a motive. for Richard Gagnon to end the lives of these two people.

Speaker 3 As Humphreys recalls, the case against Rick was always motivation strong, evidence weak.

Speaker 3 Not much more than a drop of Charlie Parker's blood on a shoe when you came right down to it. Even so, Humphreys told the court, the blood put Rick at the murder scene.

Speaker 8 But he had a story for it, didn't he?

Speaker 9 He did. It didn't hold water, but he had a story about it.

Speaker 3 Humphreys recited Rick's version of how blood got in his shoe. how he'd gone into the Parker house to get a set of car keys sometime after crime scene techs had finished up.

Speaker 9 He looked to his right, which was the window leading in to the bathroom where Big Charlie had died, and noticed the blood.

Speaker 3 Rick said he worried Bambi pacing outside might look in the window and freak out all over again.

Speaker 9 He went in and stepped through the bathroom and closed the blind.

Speaker 8 And, whoops, I stepped in the blood. Yeah.
That's his story, though, right? Yeah. But it didn't hold up?

Speaker 9 No, because

Speaker 9 they were already closed.

Speaker 3 That was the gotcha. This crime scene photo, said the prosecutor, was taken hours before Rick supposedly stepped inside that house.
Notice, the bathroom blinds are drawn.

Speaker 3 Humphreys argued that Rick could not have closed the blinds because they were already shut.

Speaker 3 The prosecutor said the defendant was lying, though he believed Rick had told the truth about the murders to at least one other person.

Speaker 3 The state star witness, Robert Mullins.

Speaker 8 The witness I call the jailhouse snitch, and you probably call a jailhouse informant.

Speaker 9 No, he's a snitch. There's no question about that.
At the end of the day, what we learned from Robert Mullins is that he's been given a fairly detailed account by Gagnon

Speaker 9 of what occurred that evening and what the crime scene looked like.

Speaker 3 In fact, he said Mullins was the first to tell police this piece of bombshell news. Gagnon had mentioned an accomplice in the killings.

Speaker 9 The only way he can have that information is from someone who went on the crime scene, who participated in the crime.

Speaker 3 And then the prosecutor tried to to spin an inconvenient fact in his favor. Those mystery blood drops found at the murder scene had been tested.

Speaker 3 The DNA was not a match to Rick, but to an unidentified male. That said the prosecutor actually supported what Mullins said, that Rick had an accomplice.

Speaker 3 Humphreys believed the evidence was enough to put the defendant away. He only wished he could make the same case against Rick's old girlfriend.
What about Bambi?

Speaker 8 I mean, she wasn't being tried in this courtroom.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 9 I think it's a travesty.

Speaker 8 Her fingerprints are on this.

Speaker 9 All over it, figuratively.

Speaker 3 And that's just how he laid it out in his closing.

Speaker 3 He told the jury this was a story about a spoiled woman, Bambi Bennett, who'd manipulated her boyfriend, Rick Gagnon, into doing her murderous dirty work.

Speaker 3 Get back the deed, get her mother off her back.

Speaker 9 He had heard from Bambi how her parents were not fair to her, that they have her land. You know, my parents are horrible people, and I'm, you know, they've taken advantage of me.

Speaker 3 To make things right, argued the prosecutor, the dutiful boyfriend and his right-hand man entered the house and hunted down Bambi's parents in their nightclothes.

Speaker 3 The jury had just heard a drama of southern Gothic proportions, dripping with family greed and hatred. Now it was time for an entirely different story.

Speaker 21 None of the puzzle pieces fit.

Speaker 3 Rick's defense team, including attorney Barbara Pratt, told the court that the state's case was heavy on fiction, light on facts.

Speaker 21 They had a puzzle, they had neat little pieces, but the pieces weren't exactly right.

Speaker 3 The state was so desperate to prove its case, she said, it clung to the word of a jailhouse snitch and career criminal.

Speaker 21 A fella that is there to cut himself a deal and get himself some assistance, I guess, in his own case is not likely to be credible.

Speaker 3 Not only was the snitch not to be believed, the defense told the jurors, but the state was also trying to confuse them about the the mystery blood found at the crime scene.

Speaker 3 The bottom line, said Pratt, the DNA from that blood cleared their client of the murders.

Speaker 21 The DNA didn't match. And we knew the DNA was not going to match Rick.

Speaker 3 And they knew that, she said, because Rick had an alibi for the night of the murders. He'd been asleep in Myrtle Beach with Bambi.

Speaker 3 The way Pratt saw it, the most challenging part of the case was the blood on Rick's shoe. To explain how it got there, Rick took the stand.

Speaker 3 He pointed out that on the morning the bodies were discovered, police had examined them thoroughly and found nothing.

Speaker 13 If there was blood on my shoes that morning, I'd have been arrested right then and there. There was no blood on my shoes that morning.

Speaker 3 That came later, he said, when he stepped into the blood-soaked bathroom.

Speaker 3 Despite that police photo, he insisted the window blinds were open and he'd worried simply that Bambi might see the horror inside.

Speaker 12 I went in and shut the blind. I didn't think she needed to see that.

Speaker 3 He testified the blood got on his shoe at that moment, not before.

Speaker 8 Did you go into the house and kill Big Charlie and Diane at the instigation of Bambi?

Speaker 8 Are you two in a conspiracy to kill those people?

Speaker 13 No, sir.

Speaker 3 So who did kill the couple? We don't know, said the defense, but it wasn't Rick Gagnon. With that, the jurors filed out to deliberate.

Speaker 3 Rick waited with his attorneys, and the woman many felt to be at the heart of it all held her breath.

Speaker 3 The jury renders its verdict.

Speaker 6 I didn't know what to think. I didn't know what to think anymore.

Speaker 3 But this isn't the end of the case, because finally, investigators learn who left those mystery blood drops at the crime scene.

Speaker 13 You said they

Speaker 13 identified the

Speaker 23 killer.

Speaker 3 Jurors in Rick Gagnon's murder case deliberated for only a few hours. When they filed back into the courtroom, he read their faces and knew they'd found him guilty.

Speaker 13 Two counts of murder, received two life sentences.

Speaker 8 That's called a pine box sentence.

Speaker 8 You're going to get out of the system in a pine box when you're dead. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Bamby Bennett said she didn't want to be in court for the verdict. Her attorney, Jim Irvin, called her with the news.

Speaker 6 Here I am thinking, oh my gosh, could he have done this? And then I'm going in the back of my head, there's no way he could have did this.

Speaker 3 Rick felt as though he'd been sandbagged.

Speaker 13 I believed that if God saw fit to have me go home, I would go home.

Speaker 3 And that thought, Rick, was about all he had left. Faith in God and a good appellate lawyer.
In this case, Bob Duttock.

Speaker 8 In my 22 or 23

Speaker 8 years

Speaker 8 of being an appellate defense attorney, Rick Gagnon was only one of about two or possibly three people that I genuinely believed was innocent.

Speaker 3 That certainty would mean exactly nothing to an appeals judge unless Bob and Rick could come up with new evidence.

Speaker 3 Then, in 2009, a year after his verdict, Rick had an encounter in prison with yet another inmate.

Speaker 13 And

Speaker 13 he was all like excited about something.

Speaker 3 Authorities in Tennessee, the prisoner told Rick, had just arrested someone for a home invasion there.

Speaker 13 He told me, he said

Speaker 13 they

Speaker 13 identified the killer.

Speaker 3 That man's name was Bruce Hill. When Tennessee authorities ran his DNA through the database, they had a match to the mystery blood found at the Parker crime scene.

Speaker 3 In 2011, a jury convicted Hill of the murders of Big Charlie and Diane. His motive for the crime was never firmly established.

Speaker 8 Who's Bruce Hill?

Speaker 3 Did you know that name?

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 8 Did you ever see him at the farm property? On job sites?

Speaker 13 No, never.

Speaker 3 But Rick's lawyer needed proof that there was no connection between the two men, so he paid Hill a visit.

Speaker 8 Bruce Hill shown a picture of Rick Gagnon, and his words were, you know,

Speaker 8 I've never seen that cracker

Speaker 8 before.

Speaker 8 You know, Bruce Hill had been unambiguous, and he was very blunt, that he did not know Rick Gagnon.

Speaker 3 All Hill had to do now was admit that in open court, and Gagnon might go free. Hill flatly refused.
Once again, Rick was out of luck, but not hope.

Speaker 13 It was the first piece of good news I'd had in a long time. You know, I was excited to see what God was getting ready to do.

Speaker 8 And there were developments.

Speaker 13 Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 Namely, the arrival of a new inmate.

Speaker 13 Now I was in the chapel at the time. It was my job assignment.

Speaker 13 He was brought into the chapel.

Speaker 3 One day the man opened up and stunned Rick. He said he'd known a guy in jail named, wait for it,

Speaker 3 Robert Mullins, the very same who testified against Rick. The man then said that Mullins had shared a secret.
He had lied about Rick's involvement in the murders.

Speaker 13 I mean, I already knew it, but to hear somebody else say it, you know, Mullins had lied. Yeah.

Speaker 8 He was kind of proud of what he was able to do.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Now this snitch-on-snitch story had the appeals judge's attention.

Speaker 8 The judge had to make a determination that the result of the trial would probably

Speaker 8 have been different. Because Mullins' story was that important in getting the conviction.

Speaker 3 Right. The judge vacated Rick's conviction, saying the new county solicitor, the one who'd replaced Humphreys, could re-file charges if he wanted.
The solicitor solicitor said he did not.

Speaker 3 So in 2013, after eight years inside, Rick Gagnon walked out of prison.

Speaker 13 Just the smell of the ocean, you know, it's like freedom. It was a terrible thing that, you know, I went to prison for something I didn't do.
It's changed my life.

Speaker 3 His old girlfriend believes her life was upended too. Bambi says she's cut ties with most of the people she grew up with.

Speaker 6 That was my home.

Speaker 6 But my home that I had known

Speaker 6 just falsely accused me and

Speaker 6 destroyed every

Speaker 6 destroyed me.

Speaker 8 Do you want an apology? Would that go anywhere for you?

Speaker 6 I do want an apology. No, it doesn't change what they did and it's not going to fix what they took away.

Speaker 8 She'd like nothing more than an apology from you for the heartache you've caused her.

Speaker 9 Yeah, she's not getting that.

Speaker 3 Bambi's defense attorney, Jim Irvin, died in 2017. He was one of the few who believed in Bambi's innocence from the start.
It took her own children a long time to feel that way.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I don't think she had anything to do with it.

Speaker 11 It just took a while before you really were able to trust her with all your feelings and really tell her you loved her and hugged her and mean every bit of it.

Speaker 8 You can be her sons again.

Speaker 5 Right, definitely.

Speaker 3 For that, at least, Bambi is grateful. For the future, she's hopeful, even if every once in a while she looks back in anger.

Speaker 6 I lost my mom and dad. My children lost their grandparents.
Our family still has no answers. They're still saying the case isn't completely solved.

Speaker 6 Maybe if they took their time in the beginning, we wouldn't be in this predicament today.

Speaker 3 Maybe there are no more answers. No reason to keep digging up the past.
Just leave it rooted right where it is and let the Spanish moss grow.

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