Deadly Engagement - Ep. 5: Good Neighbors

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Speaker 2 June 20th, 2008 was the summer solstice, the longest day of the year. To Shannon Crawley, it must have felt like the longest day of her life.

Speaker 2 According to her, the day began with a four-hour sexual assault in the pre-dawn hours. From that moment on, She had scarcely a moment to herself.

Speaker 2 In the hours after she reported the attack, she'd been poked and prodded by doctors and nurses, questioned by police.

Speaker 2 I'm with the police department, and I just want to talk to you about a few things. And it's going to be a long day of trying to straighten this out and get this taken care of you.

Speaker 2 After she was released from the hospital, Shannon's mother and sisters hovered over her like bees on a tulip.

Speaker 2 While out in the hall, she likely heard the Crawley menfolk murmuring softly to one another,

Speaker 2 making sounds of sympathy and concern. She was really not talking much that night.
She was just very sore. That's Shannon's brother-in-law, Chris Williams.

Speaker 2 He and his wife, Brandy, Shannon's sister, had come down from New Jersey. I think she had some issues with men being around her, so I just stayed back.

Speaker 2 a little bit from, you know, engaging in any conversation about entry men that night.

Speaker 2 Through Through bits and snatches of conversation, the man had gotten a good idea of what Shannon said had happened.

Speaker 2 I sort of asked how she felt and how she was doing, and if she had pain, if she needed anything, those sorts of things. That is Keith Crawley, Shannon's dad.

Speaker 2 I'd more or less let her spend her time with the sisters and her mom. Just having a woman, I think, is more important than me being in the way.

Speaker 2 The story Shannon told was awful enough,

Speaker 2 but one detail Shannon seemed to recall most vividly was horrific.

Speaker 2 Use the knife to penetrate you.

Speaker 2 In this episode, you'll hear how the knife Shannon says was used to attack her was found at the home of the man she said raped her, her former lover, Jarmeer Stroud, a man who'd been engaged to Danita Smith.

Speaker 2 The woman Shannon stood accused of murdering 18 months earlier. Both worked for the police department.

Speaker 2 I was a 911 dispatcher and the U.S. police officer.
We met there.

Speaker 2 We dated. We broke up.
You'll hear how within days of that knife's discovery, the sexual assault case against Jarmeer Stroud was suddenly in question.

Speaker 5 No one wants to be that officer that says, you know what, lady, you're lying.

Speaker 2 I just feel that

Speaker 2 this

Speaker 2 injustice,

Speaker 2 this is pure

Speaker 2 And you will hear how that knife helped strengthen the prosecution's case as the date of Shannon Crawley's murder trial drew ever closer.

Speaker 6 It seemed obvious not only who was stalking whom, but who was trying to frame whom at that point.

Speaker 2 I'm Josh Mankiewicz, and this is Deadly Engagement, a podcast from Dateline.

Speaker 2 Episode 5:

Speaker 2 Good Neighbors.

Speaker 2 Bluestem Court is a little suburban cul-de-sac on the north side of Greensboro. It's a quiet street with friendly neighbors and hedges that are almost never allowed to get out of control.

Speaker 2 In 2008, it was home to Jermeer Stroud.

Speaker 2 Very little of note ever seemed to happen there.

Speaker 2 And then, one steamy Thursday night in June, something did.

Speaker 2 Thursday is trash day on Bluestem Court. So there were a few empty bins still out by the curb.
One of them belonged to Jermir.

Speaker 2 At about 10.30 that night, one of his neighbors, out watering her flowers, heard a car enter the cul-de-sac.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I went all the way to the end of the cul-de-sac and did the little loop and came back and stopped at his trash can and threw something out.

Speaker 2 I just figured that he was throwing out a bottle or something.

Speaker 2 A guy who lived next to Stroud was outside transferring some guy stuff to the new car he and his wife had just bought that day.

Speaker 2 He saw the same thing. I was messing in the car and I heard a cthunk.

Speaker 2 And so

Speaker 2 I got out of the car and kind of peeked around the car.

Speaker 2 I saw the

Speaker 2 vehicle driving off from Jameer's Canon.

Speaker 7 I was thinking to myself, well, you know, maybe they had a McDonald's bag or a drink or something they're just trying to get rid of.

Speaker 2 The next day, an attentive neighbor on Bluestem Court might have noticed a Charlotte police car parked in front of Jameer Stroud's house.

Speaker 2 And then later, seeing how Jameer's trash can was still in the street, Some thoughtful soul dragged it back up the drive and parked it by his back door.

Speaker 2 Those are the kind of neighbors you want.

Speaker 2 And Jermir Stroud had them on Bluestem Court.

Speaker 7 I just assumed that it was just one of my neighbors there nice, putting my trash cans back up my

Speaker 7 house.

Speaker 2 Jermeer did not give the question of who moved his trash can a second thought. Maybe not even a first thought.

Speaker 2 At least... Not until Monday, when he happened to take out the garbage.

Speaker 7 I lift up my trash

Speaker 2 You see, days earlier, Jermeer's former lover, Shannon Crawley, had accused him of raping her with a knife.

Speaker 2 That's not all.

Speaker 2 Shannon Crawley was, at the time, out on bond, awaiting trial trial for the murder of Jermeer's fiancé, Danita Smith. Shannon wasn't dodged.

Speaker 2 In May of 2007, Shannon,

Speaker 2 she was released in jail,

Speaker 2 and she issued

Speaker 2 a statement to the Brown Police Department

Speaker 2 blaming you for being involved in the murder.

Speaker 2 On Saturday morning, the day after she said she'd been raped, Shannon Crawley said she was feeling a little better. Well enough, at least, to talk a bit about her ordeal.

Speaker 2 Shannon was still complaining about continued discomfort and bleeding. She stayed all day because she wouldn't get in my bed.
And we wouldn't have to go to the bottom of the moment.

Speaker 2 We tried to leave her alone, and she said she was bleeding. And she said it wasn't normal.

Speaker 2 The Crawleys thought it possible the medical team that had seen Shannon after the reported rape had missed something.

Speaker 2 Shannon had not allowed the medical staff to do more invasive diagnostic procedures because she'd said she was in too much pain.

Speaker 2 Now the Crawleys wanted doctors to take a closer look. It made sense.
It was Shannon who resisted. Because Shannon, her concern was that people would think she did this to herself.

Speaker 2 And no one will believe that she was actually attacked. In the end, the Crawley family prevailed.
So we convinced her, finally, to go to the hospital. And I told her her sisters would take her.

Speaker 2 That's Shannon's mom again. They took her to the hospital and texted me and told me that she saw that the doctor, the doctor,

Speaker 2 face didn't look good when she came out of the room.

Speaker 2 According to the Crawley sisters, a second and more thorough examination showed they were right.

Speaker 2 Shannon's bleeding had been caused by internal injuries that had gone undetected the day before.

Speaker 2 They did an internal exam and

Speaker 2 said that she had a lot of wounds on

Speaker 2 inside and a lot of cuts. That's Shannon's brother-in-law, Chris Williams.
They were going to make a note and add it to...

Speaker 2 I guess a previous support of the initial

Speaker 2 examination. The Crawleys were not sure what the hospital staff did for Shannon that night other than give her something for the pain.
She was in extreme pain.

Speaker 2 She felt like everything was falling out. Shannon's mom, Anne.

Speaker 2 She just laid down. She cried.
You know, she just, she cried. That's all she did, just cry.
And she was in a lot of pain and she just cried a lot, you know. So she slept in my bed with her daughter.

Speaker 2 That made her feel better. That daughter's her.

Speaker 2 In a strange way, that scene might well have reminded the Crawleys of some more innocent times when Shannon was growing up. Shannon was thumbsucker.

Speaker 2 She was the, she's the second oldest, but she really is the baby of the family.

Speaker 2 Easy to cry, very sensitive, stubborn.

Speaker 6 The overwhelming thing I think about her is she's been very sensitive.

Speaker 2 I cry, baby. She's cried the drop of a a hat.

Speaker 2 For several days, Shannon rested and recuperated in the comforting cocoon of family, surrounded by people who'd known her all her life, people who loved her, sheltered her, and who believed every word she'd told them about her former lover, Jarmeer Stroud.

Speaker 2 Well, that wasn't nearly enough. In the weeks and months to come, she would need to convince total strangers to believe her as well.

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Speaker 2 for Jermir Stroud. That knife was absolutely the last straw.

Speaker 2 For months, he'd heard how his former lover, Shannon Crawley, had been talking smack about him. That was unpleasant, but not unexpected.
This was something else.

Speaker 2 And now Jermir had had enough.

Speaker 7 I have been accused of murdering my own fiancé, and then two weeks after I was supposed to marry the woman that she murdered, she's now accusing me of rape, and I know I wasn't there.

Speaker 2 As he stared at the knife lying at the bottom of his trash can,

Speaker 2 his mind raced back and forth, switching between memories and scenarios like a teenager with a remote.

Speaker 2 Three days earlier, cops from Charlotte had come to Jermir's house and questioned him about that alleged rape. And Jermir said said he had told them everything.

Speaker 2 On duty till after midnight, then McDonald's, on the phone with a friend, then to bed.

Speaker 2 All of it checked out. Cops had the McDonald's receipt and phone records.
A printout showing his cell hitting a tower in Greensboro right around the time he was allegedly raping Shannon.

Speaker 2 100 miles away.

Speaker 2 After asking Greensboro police to come collect the knife jermir called the charlotte police department

Speaker 2 he was put through to the sex crimes unit detective pam zencon was the lead detective on this case

Speaker 2 and she picked up it was a folding blade kind of right blade folds in but it was it was unfolded just out what what kind of uh blade was it can you describe the blade um

Speaker 7 it was

Speaker 7 I don't know. It was at least like a four-inch blade.
So when I say a four-inch blade, I'm talking at least minimum of four inches. I'm talking about the exposed part of the blade.
Right.

Speaker 7 And it was kind of like a real fancy type deal.

Speaker 2 Jermir told Detective Zen Con he had never seen that knife before. He knew for certain he had not put it there.

Speaker 2 Jermir says once he saw it, he just shut the lid and started checking with his neighbors.

Speaker 7 So first thing I did was I called my neighbor that was most likely was the, you know, guy that kind of takes care of me all for my mail and stuff when I'm out of town.

Speaker 7 town all right i said you have to put my trash cans up by this uh

Speaker 7 up at my house no it wasn't me so jermir asked his neighbor who lived on the other side a guy named brandon i said hey man put my trash cans up by my house he says no i didn't touch trash cans he said but you know what i did see something weird i saw a guy you know pull i saw somebody pull up i saw you see saw a late 90s late models with viewers come down to the all the end of my closest sack circle around pull up to my house stop slow down And somebody got out, put something in my trash can, and throw off.

Speaker 2 I said, oh. What time of night was this?

Speaker 7 He didn't recall the time directly. And I told him, I said, don't worry about selling it to me.
I'll make sure you talk to officers.

Speaker 2 Later, Jameer says he asked one more neighbor, a woman named Jessica, if she had been the one who moved his trash can.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 bingo. She said, I've been trash in his other trouble.
I said, okay, thank you.

Speaker 7 She said, yeah, they were out there after trash days over, so I just figured I'd, you know, get them out the street and pull them up there for you.

Speaker 7 I said, Greg, I said, did you happen to leave a knife in there or anything? She goes, oh, gosh, no, a knife. I said, no.
She said, no, I didn't leave anything in there.

Speaker 7 She said, but you know what was weird, though? I did see somebody pull up.

Speaker 7 It was kind of weird. Somebody just kind of pulled up, got out, dropped something in there.
And I just thought it was kind of strange that they would do that.

Speaker 2 And they pulled off.

Speaker 2 The neighbors described the person they saw as either a white male or a light-skinned black male.

Speaker 2 The car he drove, they described as being greenish-gray or possibly blue, a late-model vehicle, kind of rounded and bubbly, Jessica said.

Speaker 2 Brandon said it looked like a Buick.

Speaker 2 Jermeer could not think of anyone he knew who matched that description and who drove a car like that.

Speaker 2 However, the timing was suspicious.

Speaker 2 Jessica and Brandon had seen the man drop something into Jermeer's empty trash can on Thursday night.

Speaker 2 That was four or five hours before Shannon had claimed her rapist grabbed her in the backyard of her mother's home in Charlotte.

Speaker 7 The one neighbor, Jessica, who said she saw the white male, number one, we white males that would be involved in this. So she had somebody else working with her.

Speaker 7 Number two, somebody is providing her with my schedule. Somehow, when she killed my fiancé, she knew that I would be home alone and bed by myself.

Speaker 7 When she called me back in January, she knew I would be home alone and bed by myself. When

Speaker 7 this knife got dropped,

Speaker 7 somebody knew that I would be at work. And when this alleged rape thing happened, she knew that

Speaker 7 I was home alone and bed by myself. You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 That's not a pattern that an idiot couldn't pick up on. You know what I mean? Right.

Speaker 2 The detective and Jameer spoke several times. over the next few days.
Hey, Jameer.

Speaker 2 Hey, this is Detective ZenCon. Pam ZenCon.
how you doing?

Speaker 2 Hey, I got a quick question for you. I spoke to your neighbors.

Speaker 2 The one thing I do need to ask you, just to say I did,

Speaker 2 when you located the knife in the trash, you lifted the lid and then what happened? What did you do? In those calls, Jameer sometimes vented his frustrations over the slow pace of the investigation.

Speaker 2 All I can do is think from my end.

Speaker 7 And from my end, I'm thinking, and I don't know what you all have. From my end, I'm thinking, this is so ridiculously obvious.
I didn't do it. You know what I'm saying? You know what?

Speaker 2 If it was that ridiculous obvious, then I wouldn't have been working on this case for almost over two weeks. Okay.
So, you know what? Maybe you should go into investigations. Okay.

Speaker 2 Because nothing's that ridiculously obvious.

Speaker 7 All right.

Speaker 7 I'm just on the job.

Speaker 2 Jermeer told the detective that after all he'd been through, What he most wanted was Shannon Crawley to be arrested for falsely accusing him of rape.

Speaker 2 One of the worst things you could ever accuse a man of is rape.

Speaker 7 That's just nasty. Okay.
And not being prosecuted is good enough for everybody else, but clear it is what I want.

Speaker 2 Cops have a slang term for evidence like that knife that seems to conveniently fall from the sky and implicate a suspect. They call it snowflaking.
To Jermir.

Speaker 2 This felt like a blizzard.

Speaker 2 It was then that Jermir suggested, speaking cop to cop, that Shannon Crawley would likely get away with this slander.

Speaker 2 Because he said, everyone knows cops are not in the business of arresting women who say they are rape victims.

Speaker 7 I understand you all's position

Speaker 7 as to why y'all can't do that, but I kind of feel like it's a political thing keeping y'all from doing that.

Speaker 2 That suggestion was a step too far for Detective Zen Con. Well, Jameer, let me tell you something right now.
I don't appreciate that.

Speaker 2 Okay, law enforcement, law enforcement, I don't appreciate what you just said to me. Okay, I have worked very hard on this case and am still working hard on this case.

Speaker 2 And if I find fact enough to say that it didn't happen, I will do that. Okay.
If we can find out that she is lying, then we'll make an arrest. But you just can't decide.

Speaker 2 You just can't get a feeling or one of those officer senses that someone's lying. How long have you been in the business? You said you've been a cop five years and I've got to explain this to you.

Speaker 7 No, I'm no ma'am. I didn't say I was.

Speaker 2 That's your feeling. You can't arrest people on feelings.
You should know that.

Speaker 7 Well, I know that. And I'm not.

Speaker 2 Then why are you thinking I need to right now?

Speaker 7 Ma'am, if you notice, if you notice, I didn't say that I think that one of the things that makes y'all have to be so careful about doing that is you guys have to make sure y'all have a model of evidence, which means if I can have, if I can produce any kind of information that can help y'all come to that determination, I will, which lets you know that I know that y'all don't have enough to be able to find that fact.

Speaker 2 Speaker, you know nothing because I am telling you nothing, just like I am not telling her anything. Okay, you are the suspect in this case.
And so I am not sharing information with you.

Speaker 2 I will get information from you if you want to give it, but I'm not going to give you any information. Okay.

Speaker 2 And you did make a comment about me not making an arrest for political reasons, and that is incorrect. I am doing my investigation, and you will know the result of that investigation when it's done.

Speaker 2 I don't appreciate that comment.

Speaker 7 Well, I apologize for offending you because my intention was definitely not to offend you.

Speaker 2 Well, apology accepted. But just know because we have done nothing but work on this case and try to figure out what we can do to the fullest.

Speaker 2 And I'm not whining about how much I've been working on this case because it is my job. Okay.
But I can assure you that I have been doing my job.

Speaker 2 A few days after that phone call, Detective Zincon got her hands on a critical piece of information she'd been waiting for.

Speaker 2 The results of the rape kit were in, the one performed after Shannon said Jermir had raped her repeatedly.

Speaker 2 The lab reported finding not a trace of Jermir Stroud's DNA, not on Shannon, not on Shannon's clothes, and not on the knife found in Jermir's trash bin.

Speaker 2 It is likely an audible sigh of relief was heard miles away in Durham, where the district attorney had been eagerly waiting to hear whether the key witness in his murder case would be charged with raping the defendant.

Speaker 6 There was no semen on the vaginal swabs.

Speaker 2 That's Durham County Prosecutor David Sachs.

Speaker 6 There's a little blood on one of the swabs, but nothing that would be conclusive proof that the rape had occurred. She indicated that there should have been Jameer's DNA on her.

Speaker 2 And it wasn't there.

Speaker 6 It just wasn't there. They tested her clothes.

Speaker 2 They tested her,

Speaker 6 the underwear, everything they could, and it just was not there.

Speaker 2 And the damage, which you would think would be caused

Speaker 2 by his using a knife. Correct.

Speaker 2 That wasn't really there either.

Speaker 6 Clearly not seen. All the medical personnel confirmed for both the Charlotte police and for us that they did not see that kind of injury to her.

Speaker 2 That would have occurred.

Speaker 2 Durham County Detective Sean Pate,

Speaker 2 who had spent hours interviewing Shannon and then later arrested her for the murder of Danita Smith, was not surprised to hear that her latest accusation against Jarmeer Stroud had turned to vapor.

Speaker 5 Again, that was with the Charlotte Police Department. I know it took them, if I remember correctly, about 10 days to figure out this never occurred.

Speaker 5 And which, to be honest with you, is very, very fast for a rape because

Speaker 5 no one wants to be that officer that says, you know what, lady, you're lying. No one wants to be that person.

Speaker 5 I mean, you're just supposed to start, you know, start by believing.

Speaker 2 In the end, Jermeer was not charged with rape, and Shannon was not charged with filing a false report. However,

Speaker 2 that was not the end of the finger pointing. Oh no,

Speaker 2 soon the fingers were pointing at police.

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Speaker 2 As far as Shannon Crawley was concerned, the evidence meant nothing.

Speaker 2 Not the rape kit results. Not the medical reports.
None of it.

Speaker 2 Jermeer Stroud, she said, had raped her with a knife. And if the cops couldn't find evidence to support that, well then that proved what she and her family had long believed.

Speaker 2 The cops were covering up for Jermir,

Speaker 2 one of their own.

Speaker 2 She knew what she knew, and that was that.

Speaker 2 I believe that after

Speaker 2 For whatever reason, they contacted the Durham police. I feel that it was completely inappropriate for them to even involve Durham.
It had nothing to do with that case.

Speaker 2 But when they did, their whole story changed. The way they treated me, everything changed after that.
And they made me feel like I made this up. And I know that I didn't.

Speaker 2 I mean, clearly it's got something to do with that case. I mean,

Speaker 2 it's the guy that you say is the actual killer. I don't know if they changed their position on what happened to me.

Speaker 2 How they treated me initially is not how they ended up treating me after they talked to the Durham police.

Speaker 2 You think the Durham police sort of what convinced them that you're a liar? Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes, because everything changed after that. But why would the rape kit come back inconclusive? Why wouldn't Jameer's DNA be found? I'm sure he did that on purpose.

Speaker 2 How is he going to explain why he had attacked me?

Speaker 2 When you say he, you mean Jameer? Yes. So what? He did what on purpose? He's a police officer.
He made sure that his DNA would not be found.

Speaker 2 But when they found the knife, they found the knife in his trash can. He had an excuse for that.
Oh, someone must have put it there.

Speaker 2 He's got a neighbor that says, oh, well, I saw someone drive by and put the knife in his trash can.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, his cell phone records put him on the phone at the time that you say this assault was going on. And I don't believe that he was ever talking to anyone on the phone.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I know where he was that night.

Speaker 2 As for Shannon's parents, the Crawleys, well, they trusted Shannon. And they believed the fix was in.

Speaker 2 After they talked to prosecutors. Yes.
Yeah. He called down there and

Speaker 2 everything changed. Everything changed.

Speaker 2 Everything changed. This is what one big conspiracy?

Speaker 2 It sounds like it. It sounds like it, but

Speaker 5 we got to look at the way it is.

Speaker 2 So many things that just don't hold together. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 To the Crawleys, it seemed a clear case of the blue wall. Police officers covering.
for another police officer. Cop will protect other cops.
Who knows what department they're in.

Speaker 2 Shannon's father, Keith Crawley Sr.,

Speaker 2 was himself once a sheriff's deputy in another state. There are always that few.

Speaker 7 Not many.

Speaker 2 There's always that few that will cover up for a cop who they don't even know it. You were in law enforcement.
Yes. You cover up crimes by other officers? No.
I never did.

Speaker 2 The Crawleys absolutely believed their daughter. But it seems her lawyers may have had their doubts.

Speaker 2 Six months after Shannon accused Jermir of rape and just a month before her murder trial was set to begin, Shannon's attorneys withdrew from her case.

Speaker 2 In their court filing, they cited a, quote, ethical dilemma, unquote, stemming from the Bar Association's candor toward the tribunal rule. Essentially, that's an ethics rule.

Speaker 2 that says lawyers can't knowingly lie to the court or allow their client or one of of their witnesses to present testimony which the attorney knows is false.

Speaker 2 What was the precise nature of this ethical dilemma? We don't know. We do know the late withdrawal of Shannon's attorneys caused her murder trial to be postponed.

Speaker 2 The Crawleys did not mention an ethical issue when I spoke with them years later. In their telling, it all boiled down to money.

Speaker 2 The first attorneys,

Speaker 2 one in particular, kept asking for more and more and more and more money.

Speaker 2 And when he realized there wasn't any more to give, that's when he wanted to back out of the case.

Speaker 2 Doctor, yeah. Doctor, you already spent all your money.

Speaker 2 The court ended up appointing Shannon a new attorney. He was appointed by the state after we had already spent him all there was to spend.

Speaker 2 Two years after her daughter's death, Sharon Smith was emotionally spent. It had taken months for the sharp pain of losing Danita to dissipate into a constant dull throb.

Speaker 2 It was an ache that never went away. It took longer still for her thoughts to turn from the horror of Danita's death to wistful memories of her short but exceptional life.
She touched a lot of people

Speaker 2 in the 25 years that she was on this earth. That is Sharon Smith, Danita's mom.
I did not realize it, but she did. And she accomplished more

Speaker 2 in her 25 years than what some of us do in a lifetime.

Speaker 2 And although the family has marked Danita's birthdays with photos of her posted on social media, Danita has never aged. She is forever 25.

Speaker 2 There are no new pictures of her celebrating life's achievements. No photos of Danita proudly holding her own children.
Unfortunately,

Speaker 2 I didn't get to plan her wedding or see her come down the aisle

Speaker 2 or

Speaker 2 the excitement of her having her children. or even see her go across the stage for the second time to get her masters.

Speaker 2 Danita was gone, but far from forgotten.

Speaker 2 In the years since Danita's death, her mother turned her attention to the case being built against Danita's accused killer, frequently calling both the detective who had arrested Shannon Crawley and the prosecutor she hoped would put Shannon away for life.

Speaker 6 Denita's mother was in constant contact with our office and with me personally.

Speaker 2 Durham County Prosecutor David Sachs.

Speaker 6 She would call me up and we would talk and I would let her know where things stood and what we were doing and what the next steps were and things of that nature.

Speaker 6 And this took a long time to get to trial. And so there were a lot of conversations with Miss Smith.

Speaker 2 Early on, a lot of those discussions centered on Sharon's would-be son-in-law, Jameer Stroud,

Speaker 2 and Danita's accused killer, Shannon Crawley. Did you ever worry they had the wrong person? Shannon versus Jameer.
Well, Shannon versus

Speaker 2 anybody. At first, first I did.

Speaker 2 At first I did. When Sharon learned Shannon had said it was Jameer who killed Danita, Sharon says she initially believed her.
I was very angry.

Speaker 2 I was very angry because I had gotten to know Jameer, welcomed him in my home. And

Speaker 2 if he'd have gone down, If the evidence supported it, evidence supported it. By January 2010, the prosecutor was ready to take his case against Shannon Crawley to trial.

Speaker 2 He was confident he had the evidence to get a conviction. What he was not sure about was how his key witness, Jameer Stroud, would come off in front of a jury.

Speaker 6 What became very hard was to deal with his mannerisms.

Speaker 6 I have a very specific memory of sitting down with Denita's mother, and we actually watched together Jumir's videotaped interview because I wanted her to see what I was dealing with.

Speaker 6 Because you would watch his interview, and it just, it would just strike you that he's hiding something or something. And she had the same impression.

Speaker 6 And she was like, that's not, that's just not the Jumir I know.

Speaker 2 It was an odd position to be in after three years of investigation. The DA was plainly worried that if this approaching day of reckoning became yet another round of he said, she said,

Speaker 2 the prosecution could still lose.

Speaker 6 Comes across squirrely sometimes.

Speaker 2 Just comes across squirrely.

Speaker 6 There's just something not right, you know.

Speaker 2 Next time.

Speaker 6 The whole trial was basically us saying that Shannon Crawley committed this murder and the defendant saying Jameer Stroud did this murder.

Speaker 2 The tone was definitely, you know, somber. Shannon's family here and, you know, you got Donita's people on the other side.
You know, tense is a good word for it. I do know

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 my belief is

Speaker 2 that Jameer is going to pay for this one day.

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