"Der Amoklauf von Erfurt" – mit Sarah
Am 26. April 2002 erlebt Sarah etwas, das ihr Leben für immer verändern wird: den ersten Amoklauf an einer deutschen Schule. Sie ist Schülerin am Gutenberg-Gymnasium in Erfurt, als ein ehemaliger Mitschüler das Gebäude betritt und das Feuer eröffnet. 16 Menschen sterben an diesem Tag, darunter auch zwei ihrer Freund*innen – direkt vor ihren Augen. Für Sarah ist plötzlich nichts mehr, wie es war: Ihre Schule wird zum Tatort, ihr Alltag zum Trauma, und die ganze Nation blickt erschüttert nach Erfurt.
Der Amoklauf von Erfurt war ein Einschnitt in die deutsche Geschichte. Zum ersten Mal sprach man hierzulande von einem „School Shooting“ – ein Ereignis, das bundesweit Schlagzeilen machte, Debatten auslöste und bis heute rechtliche Folgen nach sich zieht. Für Sarah aber bleibt es vor allem eines: ein Tag, der untrennbar mit ihrer Biografie verbunden ist.
In dieser Folge spricht Sarah darüber, wie sie die Stunden des 26. April 2002 erlebt hat. Die Angst, die Ungewissheit, das Gefühl, mittendrin zu stehen. Und darüber, wie dieses einschneidende Erlebnis sie bis heute prägt.
Wir wollen in dieser Folge auch der Opfer gedenken: Heidrun Baumbach, Monika Burghardt, Dr. Brigit Dettke, Yvonne-Sofia Fulsche Baer, Andreas Gorski, Rosemarie Hajna, Susann Hartung, Gabriele Klement, Hans Lippe, Ronny Möckel, Carla Pott, Helmut Schwarzer, Hans-Joachim Schwertfeger, Anneliese Schwertner, Heidemarie Sicker und Peter Wolff.
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