US to cut flights if government shutdown continues

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Speaker 5 This is the global news podcast from the BBC World Service.

Speaker 5 I'm Charlotte Gallagher, and in the early hours of the 6th of November, these are our main stories.

Speaker 5 As some flights are set to be grounded, we'll get the latest on the US government shutdown that's now the longest in history.

Speaker 5 Outrage in Mexico after a man tried to grope the country's first female president in public. A key test for India's nationalist prime minister in an election in the country's poorest state.

Speaker 7 Also, in this podcast, Hamas is actually trying to arm itself, trying to assert dominance, assert control, is killing people in broad daylight to make sure they understand who is boss.

Speaker 5 The BBC is allowed into Gaza, where Israeli soldiers keep a close watch on Palestinian fighters.

Speaker 5 The federal government shutdown in the United States, which started more than five weeks ago, is now the longest on record.

Speaker 5 The failure of Republicans and Democrats in Congress to agree a new funding deal means that flights will have to be cancelled from Friday.

Speaker 5 The Federal Aviation Administration has said it will cut air traffic by 10% across 40 busy airports in order to maintain safety.

Speaker 5 Air traffic controllers have been working without pay for more than a month and some are now calling in sick. The Transportation Secretary, Sean Duffy, has said they're looking for work elsewhere.

Speaker 9 What we're finding is that our air traffic controllers, because of the financial pressures at home, are taking side jobs. They need to put food on the table, gas in the car, pay their bills.

Speaker 9 And so because of that, we have seen staffing pressures throughout our airspace. Those who travel will see that we've had more delays.
We've had more cancellations.

Speaker 9 We do not want to see disruptions, but our number one priority is to make sure when you travel, you travel safely.

Speaker 5 I heard more from our North America correspondent, Peter Bose.

Speaker 11 This is going to have a huge impact given that the U.S. system handles roughly 44,000 flights every day.
That's passenger flights, cargo planes, and private aircraft.

Speaker 11 So a 10% cut, about 4,000 fewer flights. So this this is a proactive move to relieve the pressure on the air traffic controllers.
So specific airports will be affected.

Speaker 11 We don't know at this stage which ones.

Speaker 11 And in fact, since the original announcement, the Reuters News Agency has reported, quoting its sources, that these cuts will be rolled out from Friday, perhaps starting at about 3% or 4%.

Speaker 11 I think what this tells us is that this is a moving situation.

Speaker 11 The airlines have only really just discovered that this is going to happen, and clearly, we'll be working very hard to try to organise this and work out the implications for its passengers.

Speaker 5 I mean, this just sounds unbelievable to me, that you can have people doing such an important job, like air traffic control, and they're not being paid.

Speaker 5 I mean, is this affecting the safety of air travel?

Speaker 11 That is a key question. There is no indication right now that air travel in this country is not safe.
That's what they're trying to avoid.

Speaker 11 In fact, the FAA has said that the system is still operating safely, but they are warning about these staffing problems and the fatigue pressures, especially amongst its staff, saying that as time goes on, this is now a record-breaking shutdown in terms of the number of days, and the problems are only going to get worse as every day goes on.

Speaker 11 The other concern is that because of staff shortages, there could be delays in maintenance work on critical equipment.

Speaker 11 And again, were that to be causing a significant concern that equipment simply wasn't working properly, that could cause further flights to be delayed or indeed cancelled.

Speaker 5 Peter Bowes. Mexico's first female president, Claudia Schainbaum, has called for sexual harassment to be made a crime in the country after footage showed a man trying to grope her in the street.

Speaker 5 She's filed a complaint against the man who she said was drunk. He's since been arrested.
The attack happened on Tuesday when she met supporters near the Presidential Palace in Mexico City.

Speaker 5 Will Grant is our correspondent there.

Speaker 12 I think it really has shocked Mexicans because one thing, of course, is that there might be a breach of security, but it's quite another that a member of the public with bad intentions could get so close to the President, could touch her body without permission, could attempt to kiss her, and that a good few seconds pass before any member of her team stepped in and you could see on her face that she was visibly shaken by the incident.

Speaker 12 I think it says two key things to us. Really, that this lamentable episode, as President Claudia Schneebaum put it, shows just how ingrained machismo is in Mexican society.

Speaker 12 As people have been putting it, ultimately, if that can happen to the president, what chance do ordinary women in the streets stand?

Speaker 12 So that is one side of it, and it's a very, very coherent argument which has been resonating around the country since this happened.

Speaker 12 And the other, of course, is the one you've mentioned, which is presidential securities happening just days after a very popular mayor of a municipality called Uruapan in Michuacan was murdered at a Day of the Dead celebration in a public square shortly after he called for more support and more protection from Claudia Schaenbaum.

Speaker 12 So it just goes to show that while her team have always allowed her to mingle with crowds, to shake hands, pose for photos and hugs and so on, it does come at a real security cost, but one that she said in her morning press briefing that she was not prepared to change.

Speaker 5 The fact that this has happened to the president and the fact that she's speaking out about it now, do you think that that could make a difference?

Speaker 12 It's such a public moment. It's such a shocking display of matchism, of assuming that a woman is there for him to be able to touch if he wants to, even if she be the president.

Speaker 12 I think the the things that Claudia Schoenbaum said afterwards that she was going to carry through with bringing charges against this man because he had done it to other women that day, she was told, and also to say that enough is enough, that we as women in Mexican society won't put up with this, and she needs to be seen to be leading that charge.

Speaker 12 So I think it has the potential to do something.

Speaker 12 The difficulty is, of course, that even as a candidate, she was talking about clamping down on gender-based violence, on working harder on femicide, which is notoriously bad in Mexico.

Speaker 12 And we're not seeing any significant improvement on those numbers since she's come to office.

Speaker 5 And you're out in Mexico City at the moment. Is this something that people are talking about?

Speaker 12 It is. It actually is.
I've been listening on the radio stations and it was often the subject of conversation. You can see people talking about it in chat groups.

Speaker 12 It's something that people are shocked about. And it is, of course, leading all the newspaper coverage.
It stands out because it's so brazen, but it also stands out because it's so ordinary.

Speaker 12 And I think that is what disheartens Mexicans: that even the head of state isn't protected from the machismo in this society.

Speaker 12 What happened to Claudia Schaenbaum happens every day to women in Mexico, and it happens often.

Speaker 12 It just so happened that on this occasion, he was caught on camera doing so, was arrested, and will face charges.

Speaker 12 But the vast, vast majority of those incidents around Mexico go completely unreported and unpunished.

Speaker 5 Will Grant. The BBC has been allowed to enter Gaza for the first time since the ceasefire was declared last month.

Speaker 5 The Israeli army took a group of journalists into the Palestinian territory on Wednesday.

Speaker 5 They weren't allowed to go beyond the yellow line, which is the temporary boundary between the areas of Gaza controlled by Hamas and those controlled by Israeli forces.

Speaker 5 Military censorship laws in Israel mean that Army personnel were shown our material before publication.

Speaker 5 The BBC maintained editorial control of this report from our Middle East correspondent, Lucy Williamson, at all times.

Speaker 13 As you are seeing in front of you, is the battlefield of Sajaya. To the left is Gaza City.

Speaker 13 The yellow line, you can see it, it is a bit before the first line of buildings or after the first line of buildings.

Speaker 14 I'm just standing now on a ridge very close to the yellow line, and for 180 degrees around me, all I can see pretty much is rubble. Buildings just smashed into piles of grey concrete and stones.

Speaker 14 In the far distance to my left there are buildings of Gaza City, some of them still standing. That's of course where many people are still living.

Speaker 14 But the rest of it just shows what this two-year war has done to Gaza.

Speaker 1 It was not a goal.

Speaker 15 IDF's goal is to combat terrorists, to release the hostage and make Sir Hamas can never care at another October 7th.

Speaker 14 Lieutenant Colonel Nadav Shoshani is an Israeli military spokesman.

Speaker 15 And when you ask the commanders fighting here how the battlefield looked like, they'll tell you. Almost every house had either a tunnel shaft or was booby-trapped or had an RPG or a sniper station.

Speaker 14 Israel doesn't allow international news organizations to report independently from Gaza.

Speaker 14 This visit with a group of journalists was a short, highly controlled trip with the Israeli army with no access to Palestinians or other areas of Gaza.

Speaker 14 Israel's forces say there are confrontations with Hamas in this area almost every day and that its troops will stay in Gaza until Hamas disarms and gives up power.

Speaker 14 It's not yet clear when or how that will happen. So what's the specific condition? I know you say Hamas disarmament but the process for that hasn't even been worked out yet.

Speaker 7 Well on the contrary Hamas is actually trying to arm itself trying to assert dominance assert control over Gaza is killing people in broad daylight to kind of terrorize the civilians and make sure they understand who is boss in Gaza.

Speaker 7 So we're actually seeing the opposite of it and it's very clear that there there will need to be pressure. We hope this agreement is enough pressure.

Speaker 14 The division of Gaza has left it in a tense limbo and the Americans are pushing very hard to try and move quickly on to the next stage.

Speaker 14 But there are reminders every day of how fragile this situation is and every time this ceasefire cracks, it threatens to bring the whole deal crashing down.

Speaker 5 Lucy Williamson. Polls have opened in the Indian state of Bihar where millions of people will cast their votes in the first phase of assembly elections.
Bihar is the country's poorest state.

Speaker 5 The outcome will be critical for Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Hindu nationalist party, the BJP, which is seeking to retain power with its regional ally.

Speaker 5 They face a strong challenge from an opposition alliance of the RJD and Congress parties. Steve Lai spoke to Devina Gupta, our correspondent in Patna, the capital of Bihar state.

Speaker 16 We've seen a steady stream of people coming in this polling booth, which essentially is a school.

Speaker 16 So there are people coming from behind me where their identity cards are checked, and then men and women are sent to separate booths.

Speaker 16 This is where men go and then press that button on the electronic voting machine to cast their vote. Out of 243 seats in this state, half of them are going to polls today.

Speaker 16 The next half will be on the 11th of November.

Speaker 16 And there are around 90,000 polling booths like this with security guards and election officials who are making sure that voters get their chance to cast their ballot.

Speaker 16 What we are expecting is a turnout, which has traditionally been around 50 to 60 percent in this state. Women have turned out more than men.
And that's what I've also witnessed in this polling booth.

Speaker 16 There have been more women coming in with their daughters to cast their vote. And this is also because how the demography of this state is shaped.

Speaker 16 Most of the men have to travel out from here in search of jobs. This is one of the poorest states.
So what that means is the odds are stacked against them.

Speaker 16 Out of a thousand births, nearly 47 children don't make it to their first birthday. One in every five women have to drop out from their education and they are pushed into early marriages.

Speaker 16 And men, because of lack of job opportunities in industries here, have to migrate outside. And these are also the issues which are on top of mind of these voters here.

Speaker 17 Yeah, there's a lot of challenging issues that they have to contend with and also think about when it comes to their voting. Just elaborate a bit more on

Speaker 17 the issues that will be top of their minds.

Speaker 16 Well, we've seen that this place also has a national aspect to it because the regional party here, the JDU, which has ruled this place for 20 years, is in alliance with the Hindu nationalist party, the BJP, at the centre.

Speaker 16 India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi has been coming and campaigning here.

Speaker 16 In the opposition, there is the Congress with other local parties and all of them have been looking at development in the state.

Speaker 16 They've been pushing that they would get more industries to invest here. But there is a problem of corruption.

Speaker 16 There is also a problem of making the labor stay here because they're lucrative options elsewhere so those are the main uh challenges for these political parties they've also targeted welfare schemes towards women because they know they turn out in higher numbers than the men as we spoke about so there have been promises of cash handouts and direct transfer to their bank accounts there are scholarship schemes that have been introduced for them promises of government jobs by different political parties but one has to see how these voters will be looking at them.

Speaker 16 There's also an interesting matrix of caste and religion that plays out. So, are multiple and complex layers of India's democracy in play in the state elections?

Speaker 5 That was Devina Gupta.

Speaker 5 Still to come in this podcast.

Speaker 18 I really did seriously get asked in about 1967, not whether I was going to commit suicide, but when I was going to commit suicide. No way.

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Speaker 5 A typhoon, which has caused devastating floods across the central Philippines, has killed at least 114 people.

Speaker 5 Official figures show that more than 120 others are still missing. Our Southeast Asia correspondent, Jonathan Head, is monitoring the storm.

Speaker 1 I think it's a big mess they've got to clear up, particularly on the island of Cebu, which is the worst affected. Of course, it has quite a high population, at least in Cebu City.

Speaker 1 I mean, this typhoon was a very strong one, but it was the amount of water it carried that seems to have caused the most damage. Effectively, it dumped a month's worth of water on Cebu in just a day.

Speaker 1 And the Philippines is mountainous, very deforested, it can't absorb a lot of water, and that water just churned down right into urban areas.

Speaker 1 From the pictures, it almost looked like a tsunami had hit. So, it's left behind it enormous amounts of damage, completely blocked roads, massive amounts of rubble.

Speaker 1 I mean, in amongst that rubble, you've got broken parts of buildings, you've got cars, you've got shipping containers all piled up making it very hard to clean up and a huge amount of mud as well.

Speaker 1 Now President Bonbar Marcos is due to arrive there today to at least symbolically show his support for the population and perhaps to encourage the cleanup effort but that's going to take an awful long time and we do think the casualties are going to rise and that storm is still very very strong.

Speaker 1 It's measured as a category four typhoon which is exceptionally strong for a typhoon that's already been through the Philippines and is now moving west across the South China Sea.

Speaker 1 So south central Vietnam, which expects to feel the brunt of it later this evening, people there are stocking up on food.

Speaker 1 People in more vulnerable areas are evacuating because by Vietnamese standards, this is still a very, very strong storm and potentially a very, very damaging one.

Speaker 5 Jonathan Head.

Speaker 5 The U.S. Supreme Court has been hearing arguments over the legality of President Trump's use of emergency powers to impose tariffs on imports.

Speaker 5 A number of small businesses and a group of states say most of these are illegal and should be struck down. down.
If the court agrees, Mr. Trump's trade strategy would be upended.

Speaker 5 Outside the court, the Democrat senator Ed Markey had this to say.

Speaker 21 This case is not enemies of the state versus Trump. It is small businesses versus Trump.
It is Main Street versus Mar-a-Lago. And it is mom and pop versus Trump's billionaire buddies.

Speaker 5 Nick Miles heard more from Gary O'Donoghue in Washington.

Speaker 22 The court spent a couple of hours going through these arguments with the lawyers, oral arguments, effectively.

Speaker 22 And essentially, those that oppose these tariffs say: look, there's only one institution in this country that can raise revenue, raise taxes. Tariffs are a tax, and that institution is Congress.

Speaker 22 And the President can't do this. It's simply not part of his constitutional powers.

Speaker 22 On the other hand, the proponents and the Trump administration say, look, there are these emergency powers, this Emergency Economic Powers Act, under which the President can take measures to what's called regulate importation.

Speaker 22 And they say regulating importation can mean, among other things, imposing tariffs. So that is the essential argument.

Speaker 22 It's an argument about a particular statute in one case, this Emergency Act and how it's being implemented.

Speaker 22 But it's also a constitutional argument about where the line is drawn between the powers that Congress has versus the Presidency.

Speaker 23 And Gary, it's hard to overstate, isn't it, quite how many people and companies have been affected by the tariffs in the US.

Speaker 23 How much is riding on the outcome of this case for them and also for Donald Trump?

Speaker 22 Well, so far, in purely financial terms, you're looking about $100 billion,

Speaker 22 which, if the Trump administration loses, it's going to have to pay back to importers and various companies that have paid these tariffs. So, that's a big hit.

Speaker 22 When you look at the level of taxes that have imposed on pretty much every country in the world, the lowest rate is 10%. Most of them are much, much higher than that.

Speaker 22 And of course, you know, at the end of the day, some of that may be absorbed by importers, some of it may be absorbed by foreign manufacturers, but certainly a chunk of it is going to be absorbed by American consumers.

Speaker 22 And at a time when the economy is, you know, showing some signs of slowing down a little, certainly the labour market is slowing down, that is something they can't afford.

Speaker 22 So a lot rides on this for Donald Trump in terms of the rest of his time in power.

Speaker 23 And very briefly, Gary, when can we expect a decision on this?

Speaker 22 Well, normally with big cases like this, you have to wait until the middle of the following year, so next June.

Speaker 22 But there is some suggestion that this is considered so important by the court that they may come back sooner than that.

Speaker 22 And a very quick thing to add, a lot of the Conservative, or at least a couple of the Conservative judges on this Conservative-dominated court were sounding slightly sceptical about the government's arguments.

Speaker 5 That was Gary O'Donoghue.

Speaker 5 Russia's defence minister has advised President Putin he should prepare for full-scale nuclear testing testing after President Trump said the US would start testing nuclear weapons. Mr.

Speaker 5 Trump's energy secretary later clarified this, saying the tests would not involve nuclear explosions. But Mr.
Putin is remaining cautious, as our Russia editor Steve Rosenberg explains.

Speaker 24 The Russian state television showed Vladimir Putin chairing a meeting of the Russian Security Council with top security officials like the Defence Minister and the Chief of the General Staff.

Speaker 24 The Russian Defence Minister, Andrei Beluseov, he was championing the bed. He suggested that Russia should prepare for full-scale tests immediately.

Speaker 24 However, in Russia, it's what Vladimir Putin says that counts. So let's look very closely at the language he used.
President Putin did not say full steam ahead, please, with nuclear testing.

Speaker 24 He told officials to draft proposals about a possible start on work to prepare for a nuclear test.

Speaker 24 He also said Russia has always strictly adhered to and continues to adhere to its obligations under the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, and we have no plans to deviate from these commitments.

Speaker 24 So it looks like the Russians were sending a message to Washington that if you really are planning to resume nuclear testing, just be aware. Russia is not going to sit idly by.
We'll do it too.

Speaker 24 And I think there was a certain degree of surprise here in Moscow last week when President Trump made that announcement about nuclear testing, a certain amount of scratching of heads trying to work out what exactly Donald Trump meant.

Speaker 5 Steve Rosenberg. Finally, the first book written by the Canadian author Margaret Atwood was a collection of poetry published in 1961.

Speaker 5 In the 64 years since then, she's published 18 books of poetry, 18 novels, including The Handmaid's Tale, and now a memoir, Book of Lives, a memoir of sorts.

Speaker 5 She's been speaking to Nula McGovern, who first asked Margaret Atwood about the difficulty she faced as a female author in the 1960s.

Speaker 18 What were the role models at at that time? I really did seriously get asked in about 1967, not whether I was going to commit suicide, but when I was going to commit suicide. No way.

Speaker 18 Well, it would show that you were serious, right?

Speaker 3 I understand that there was meant to be this torment that was attached to.

Speaker 18 You're supposed to be very tormented and sort of nun-like, or else you could be a high priestess of the imagination and do some human sacrifice, like the white goddess in Robert Graves's books which were circulating at the time.

Speaker 18 So those were the models and it was somewhat daunting.

Speaker 5 But you persevered nonetheless.

Speaker 3 Did you always feel that you would be successful as a writer?

Speaker 18 Oh no, no, no, no, not at all. This was Canada.
So no, you didn't think you were going to be successful. You thought you were going to be dedicated.
So it wasn't considered a career.

Speaker 18 It was considered a vocation like being a priest.

Speaker 3 The Handmaid's Tale, I want to come back to that, your dystopian novel about a patriarchal society in which women are forcibly assigned to produce babies.

Speaker 3 It was heralded not just as a modern classic, but also prescient in the way that it warned what might happen in the future and that reproductive freedoms could be challenged.

Speaker 3 Some say that they are now.

Speaker 18 We are talking specifically about the United States. Yes.
We are talking about the form an autocracy would take were there to be one in that country.

Speaker 18 So So it would not be, hi, my name is Joe, let's all be communists. That would not fly in the United States.

Speaker 18 What is much more likely to fly, as we are seeing unfold before our very eyes, and going way back to the 17th century when the Massachusetts Bay Colony was set up as a Puritan autocracy, not a democracy, forget that part.

Speaker 18 That came in the 18th century. So what form would it take were there to be one in the United States? And it would take the form of a theocracy, at least in name.

Speaker 18 People would say they were doing these things in the name of the Almighty. That's what they would do.

Speaker 18 And once they got into power, they would get rid of all the other religions, not just all the other non-Christian religions, but all the other Christian religions, because autocracies are autocracies.

Speaker 3 Do you ever worry about something like that happening?

Speaker 18 Of course I have a worry, and so do people who live there. But it is my contention that America is a very ornery place and that people in it dislike being told to line up and do as they're told.

Speaker 18 And that can have a plus and it can have a minus. But the plus is they're likely to be resistant to tyranny.
They're not very deferential.

Speaker 3 But with The Handmaid's Tale, or indeed

Speaker 3 the year of the flood, people see it as preempting the 2008 financial crash. What do you say to people who say you can read the future?

Speaker 18 Nobody can read the future because there isn't one future. The future is multiple, so the decisions we make now will influence the future we get, but there are always going to be unexpected factors.

Speaker 18 You can make educated guesses. You can say, if we continue doing this, that will probably be the result.
But that's all you can do. And the handmaid's tale was based on a theoretical question.

Speaker 18 If the tendencies that started to become manifest during the first years of the Reagan regime, if those continue and America deepmines its own past, namely the 17th century, this is likely to be the result.

Speaker 5 That was Margaret Atwood.

Speaker 5 And that's all from us for now, but there will be a new edition of the Global News podcast later. If you want to comment on this podcast or the topics covered in it, you can send us an email.

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