Immediate Fight

Okay,

I want you to turn around Jeff and I want you to look right over there

There's a giant empty parking lot that is about five steps away from where we're sitting

Still would be further away from where we parked.

No, I don't think it would be thank you.

Thank you appreciate it.

Maybe not to this table but to the guy to buy the food.

No, no, that's uh also that parking lot wasn't there last night.

night.

Just want to say.

Oh no, you weren't going to that parking lot.

You had turning down that street right now.

I had no idea.

But I said, you know, what I said, remember what I said?

What I said exactly was, let's see what's happening on 4th Street.

Where is that parking lot?

You watched 4th Street.

Cars pull out.

There was a three-car space.

And you, I tell you what happened.

I've been there.

And I'm not mad at you about it, even though I got a little sniffy with it.

Sounds like it.

You panicked.

No.

And you were stressed out.

And you did the, I'm just going to go, I'm just going to extricate myself from the situation to go to a safer space i wouldn't say i panic it was the same thing as when the doorbell rings and you run behind the hallway what it was was

you hint too what it was that's how i know was um

the parking lot was busy there were a lot of people coming in and there was like one entrance from the side and one from the street it was just a whole complicated thing you couldn't wrap around from one aisle to the other waited eight seconds that car would have moved and we would have parked immediately and it was totally fine the one that you stressed out about that was backing out we were like, oh, we just gotta, they weren't gonna fit by us.

There wasn't enough room.

I'm sorry, did we park?

Was there enough room out and left?

Was there enough?

There wasn't enough room for that car to come.

Fuck us, there wasn't enough room for the car to come.

Right, and you,

Gus, I love you.

Right, back up.

I love you.

Come over here.

We would have been.

I love you.

I love you.

Admit you're wrong.

Look at that drive parking.

You walk to admit I'm so wrong.

I'm gonna go fucking walk it.

Wait, I'm gonna lose your signal.

Oh, man.

Well,

we're at better half.

So mad.

We're at better half coffee.

I'm just watching to see when I lose Jeff's signal.

I think I did.

Yeah, there it goes.

If it helps,

I agree with you.

Yeah, no, I'm totally right.

Okay.

You can get mad all at once.

That car wouldn't have fit when

you were there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Does he have to re-roll when he comes back?

No, no, it's still recording.

You're still good.

Wait, where are you going now?

Now he's got to measure in the other direction.

Oh, okay.

I'm definitely going to lose his signal.

Well, I guess we'll see what happens.

Sorry, Richard.

Uh,

this is a very big spot.

Is that a better house over there?

I think so.

I think it's called Holdout.

Oh, that's right.

I've been here once, and I sat like over there.

My wife and I came here, we sat over here, and I thought we got food from that place.

That's so that's holdout, and it's next to it.

And uh, there's this huge area in the back that uh

there's a ton of seating and there's a ton of parking

when we park, you make the same joke I do all the time.

We parked, you said, Don't forget where we parked.

I say it every time I park.

My wife,

my wife, not thrilled every time.

How you, so what do you think?

So, if you map it from the closest parking spot that a person could pick, which is for compact cars only, you don't have a compact car, you're in your mom's truck.

But I went ahead and mapped it from there anyway, just to be kind, to the desk to the counter to order a coffee would be 62 steps from where we parked is 38 steps oh 24 extra steps so it's closer yeah how much time would we have saved if we just parked back there instead of in the front none we would have saved nothing oh okay a little bit further okay he also didn't know there was parking there

he would have discovered and it would have been a happy accident but he didn't know there was parking back there he was driving off into the undefined future because he was stressed out about turning right that parking lot didn't exist until I turned down 4th, and that's when it willed itself into existence.

Nobody's saying that.

I said that.

I'm saying that.

Well, then you're wrong.

I'm pretty.

I thought we were going to park by the train.

Really in the trains.

It's a south by southwest week to.

I wanted to go somewhere downtown, but you can't really get anywhere downtown because of

all the insanity.

So I think this was a good compromise.

This is about as close as we can probably get before really getting

on.

Well, there's 4th Street.

case there's fourth street i know that

and then so south by just a little round right right right right southbuy is everywhere all over we had to avoid 35 so we took a very roundabout way to get here uh we were talking about like what part of south by is it because it's like oh when do bands play and all that stuff Bands are in town.

The bands are playing and stuff.

A band called Gods Hate that played on Saturday and they're

pretty fucking tough.

That's a whole thing where it's like, hey, what's up?

Are you in the pit?

Crowd kill everyone.

It's like scary shit.

So I think South Buy ends, what, in a week?

I think I dirt knock on Sunday's the last day.

Music goes from Wednesday to Sunday.

So if this is the music week, then yeah, it'll end Sunday.

Crazy.

I thought it was a week.

I thought we were a week earlier than that, but I guess not.

You know, like SNL had its whole like 50-year anniversary bullshit.

Yeah, they told me a lot.

And

they had like, as part of all that, they had a documentary, like a mini documentary about like music acts and music on SNL.

I don't know if either of you watched that but i thought

it was a lot of very self-serving stuff obviously they're producing it

but on snl i thought that uh there was an itching story i didn't know about i guess um where they booked like some punk act in 82.

uh-huh is it fear yeah yeah and i i guess i'd never seen that performance you've never seen that before

one of the most legendary punk bands of all time dude fear they love living in the city it was uh it was amazing that was only because of belushi then yeah ballushi was like let's do it it was it was the halloween show right

they got banned yeah played i love living in the city i love living in the city i love that song that's so cool i love that band yeah and that's uh lead singer of that band you know you know him from something else his name's leaving i saw an interview the interview they did a talking head interview with him like nowadays oh really but i couldn't quite place it he played mr body in the clue movie okay yeah i was like i was like there was something familiar about him yeah i couldn't i couldn't quite place it he was in a couple of 80s roles like he's in a john kuzak movie or he's in john cryer movie He was fucking cool.

Like that in the Tunky Kid interview with him where they were talking about that performance.

I was like, oh, that's really.

What's one of these?

I've seen Fearplay three or four times, but the coolest thing, because I kind of,

well, they were problematic at the time.

Or now, looking back at a lot of what they did was problematic, but they were very cool when I was young and in the early 90s.

And one time I saw him on Congress on a motorcycle just stopped at a red light.

And I was just like, God, I didn't even want to talk to him, but I want to run into the street and go like, and he's also a scary dude, you know?

He's on like a fucking Harley, but it was cool to see him.

What's with 70s punk acts doing

weird 80s stuff where you go, oh, yeah, he was Mr.

Body and Clue or whatever.

And it's like David Johansson was

New York dolls, and then it was also Buster Poindexter.

He was a cab driver.

And the cab driver.

Yep.

Yeah.

What the hell?

Yeah, I don't know.

Do you think it's just directors and casting people going, like, I fucking love these bands?

Let's just put them in stuff.

I think it's like what today would be the equivalent of like

Laser Beam getting in the Ryan Reynolds movie?

Oh, okay.

It's like now it's not.

It's not nearly as cool.

No, it's not nearly as cool.

But like avant-garden music and stuff back then, that's what like internet celebrity is.

Interesting.

That's really interesting.

Yeah.

Huh.

Did you guys do anything for South Buy?

You guys don't.

What do you mean?

What do you mean?

When we took that long, circuitous route to get to this area,

you guys didn't do anything for South Buy.

It's way too crowded.

I did.

I went to the fucking middle of nowhere east side of Austin to eat barbecue in the wind and dust with you.

Me and Jeff.

That's the only thing I've done.

Me and Jeff went to the, at the Rodeo Grands, they have a barbecue festival.

It's like a Friday evening and then all day Saturday thing.

You pay parking and admission, and then when you walk in, all of the food and all of the drinks are free.

So you walk in and immediately it's the guy going, hey, you want like pulled pork taco?

Great.

And then you go over to like, there's just a million booths and and everything.

That's what I was going to ask.

There's actually food because I feel like a lot of those times those places are scams where there's nothing.

It's not a scam, but it is complicated.

You have to get there earlier to avoid like a bunch of lines.

But then also throughout the day, different barbecue places that are in like the competition open and give out like free food.

So like when

by the time Jeff got there, I had already been to three places in Eaton, and then we found a really long line where they gave you like a big ass plate of food, brisket and, you know, coleslaw and all this stuff.

And then you go to like the next place and here's chicken and then you go to the next place and here's a taco.

And we had like ribs and all this stuff.

But the whole time, like me, I'm just drinking beer.

Like the beer's free, the food's free.

I think it works the best if you drink because then it just becomes, because there's a lot of line, like you wouldn't like the line portion of it.

Yes, I hate that.

I'm not crazy about lines either.

But if you give into it and you recognize, like, I'm going to go stand in line, it's basically like, like he's saying, there's just stalls everywhere.

And then at any given time, there'll be maybe three places serving food.

Yeah.

And so everybody kind of runs to those three places.

So there may be, I think the longest line we've ridden was 45 minutes.

But the shortest was maybe eight.

Yeah, maybe.

Yeah.

Maybe eight or ten.

And that 45-minute line, that's the longest line.

I've been going for years.

The longest line I've ever waited in.

And we got a full meal for that line, too.

Yeah, that's why we waited a little bit.

Because that was a full-on.

Usually it's like, here's brisket nachos, and it's like a thing, and it's pretty quick.

But I was initially kind of miffed by the lines, but then you think about it and you're like, what else would I be doing?

I'd just be sitting at a picnic table talking to my friends.

Why don't I just stand here?

And they're drinking just as easily in line.

And they were actually, I'll say this for the place, bummer that I'm sober.

They just walk around handing out.

There were ladies that just had trays of shots and free beer that they were just giving out.

Also, I did partake in this.

Free chichirones.

Yes.

Just a fucking, just like a guy in a cardboard box.

Like a Staples paper box full of chichirones.

He's like, hey, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

Chijona, chichrona.

That was really good.

But then you just drink kind of all day, and then there's a carnival on like the backside.

So we were there.

Yeah, but it was,

it was great because we got there and I'm in like, I'm in like my cowboy boots and I'm trying to blend in the best that I can.

It was probably about 80 degrees.

Jeff shows up and he's crowing.

First shorts day of the year.

Look at this.

Dude, you guys must be so miserable.

Look at your long pants.

Burned doggies in his long pants all black.

You got, this is the first shorts day.

I was insufferable.

Jeff Calder.

I was so excited.

90 minutes later, it went from 80 degrees to 55 degrees in about 15 minutes.

It was that day.

That's right.

And just the wind kicked up.

Emily.

Finessa.

Brutal dress, like sundress.

They were dying.

I was freezing.

And we spent another two hours.

Yeah.

Well, we had to go to the carnival because my wife wanted funnel cake and my friend Robbie was hammered and wanted to go down the slide.

So he bought a wristband.

His wife, not thrilled, he bought a wristband so he could go down the slide.

Was it just, what is that?

Like a metal slide?

It was a big ass slide, the big wavy, really tall slide or whatever.

He's drunk because they were like, here's whiskey shots, whatever.

So he's doing whiskey shots and then he wants to go down the slide.

And you think it's going to be like, I'm going to go down the slide.

Hey, guys, let's check it out, whatever.

He got the wristband and was like, I'm going down the slide.

And he was gone.

Like, he ran over to go down the slide.

He disappeared like that.

Oh, fuck.

It was so fucking funny.

And then you just saw his little, he's got like this, like,

he's got like this little like red hat, and he just kind of, and he goes,

goes down the slide, and then he walks off, and he's like, I loved it.

Done.

Yeah, he had a great time.

And then there was cotton candy and there was funnel cake.

Yeah, so you're getting real sick.

Yeah, and then everyone went home and fell asleep for like four hours.

I didn't throw up, but I definitely slept a long time.

It was Barbecue Fest, fun as shit.

It's once a year.

Barbecue Austin, right?

I'm always wary of those festivals because I feel like, you know, you see in the suburb, a lot of them are scattered.

Yeah, a lot of them are.

Sometimes you show up and there's like, they take your money, but there's really nothing there.

So it's good to hear of one that actually delivers.

Yeah, this is...

It's connected to the rodeo.

So

it's the kickoff to the rodeo at the rodeo grounds.

And I've been going to this thing for like years that's the only reason i know about is we happened to go to it one time and it's like holy shit i can't believe this is real so we just tell people it's like come come come come it's fun as hell it's really good it's a it's a great like little festival but you guys didn't do anything for self not even anything no

what did you do uh well my cousin moved here and she her mom came to visit and she's like oh we should go get barbecue so the day after the barbecue festival oh went to go barbecue

where'd you go uh well

she wanted to go to franklin Oh, my God.

And so I'm like, oh, yeah, you know.

Yeah, so where'd you all actually go?

Exactly.

I'm like, you check it out and let me know if the line's pretty easy.

We'll come and meet you.

And she's like, no problem.

And then she drove by it and went,

hey, let's go to Micklethwaite.

Micklethwaite opened brick and mortar.

Have you guys seen it?

Yeah, I haven't been there, but I've seen it.

It's on Springdale and Tan, Tanny, Tannery, something like that.

It used to be a church.

Yeah, it used to be a church.

And it's kind of like near airport in springdale is it near

that place we used to hang out on springdale our friend's house it's really close a little a few blocks from

yeah i just want to i don't want a doxa fridge yeah yeah okay uh it's an old church it's converted it has a

inside eating like seating area and then a big outdoor patio area and everything

you have to park on the street there's no like parking lot for it you just have to park on the street and that's that kind of sucks it does especially like if you live there.

But was it pretty crowded?

No, we went at like 11:30 noon, something like that, on like a Sunday, and it was not bad.

We sat inside.

There was like, we waited behind two people.

It was easy.

I used to, I used to tell people to go to that KG barbecue.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what I was telling people.

Until last time we went, there was like an hour and a half line.

Oh, yeah.

Now I just tell people to go to that mum foods place.

Yeah, mum's foods get

awesome.

Mum Foods has a stall at Q2 Stadium now.

Oh, great.

Yeah, they're doing.

So if you ever go to an Austin FC game, strong sandwich.

You're welcome,

Mum Foods.

Yeah, there you go.

I was a strongie sandwich there.

I went to...

It's pretty cool.

I went to...

I mean, I've been to Mikawait many times, but I went one time about seven years ago.

And it's like right when they were taking off.

Like, it used to be you could just show up and get food.

Then it was like, you would show up and wait, you know, 20 minutes in line.

Oh, yeah.

So it was like right at that era where it was like really starting to be.

Really?

Yeah, yeah.

It's like the beginning of it taking off.

And I showed up and it was like a Saturday for lunch with some people.

And then it was kind of a longer line than normal.

I was like, that's weird.

like a 30-40-minute long line.

I was like, We're already here, we'll wait.

And then, like, a camera crew showed up.

Oh, no, no.

I guess Food Network was filming like a show about it, the barbecue thing.

I was like, oh, no.

So, we, you know, we get our food, we sit down, and then, like, as we need to come by with the camera, I'd like to stick it in your face.

Like, oh, what is the brisket taste like?

Like, I just want to eat.

I don't want to do this.

I don't hate this.

I just came for the beef rib.

Yeah, yeah, it is for a living.

I don't want to talk to your camera.

I'm not getting paid.

I'm not going to do it.

Yeah, I'm not doing this for free.

You should be like, I'm sorry, I'm the union.

I can't, apparently.

uh i really recommend mickle thwaite uh that's a great

i like their i like their brisket a lot i like they have a they have some pretty decent sausages i like their turkey yeah um that's a that's a great little they're really known for the the beef rib was like their signature thing for so long and in the cooler months they used to make like a homemade moon pie oh

but they haven't done that in years because the dude who made it like

like left doesn't doesn't work there anymore so they don't have the the homemade moon pie more that used to be excellent that's been a few years now uh do you guys go on tears where it's like all you want is barbecue and then you're like, and then for like three months, you're like, I just don't.

For like the first 15 years I lived.

Yeah.

Then you go through a like, I'll go to barbecue a couple times a year phase.

Now I'm in the,

I enjoyed eating barbecue with you at the festival and I probably won't eat it again

this year.

Yeah.

Or if somebody comes in from out of town, I don't ever, ever crave barbecue anymore.

Yep.

I know if I left, I would.

Once it's, I don't have access to it, but I never

call back.

Rudy's potato still has its grab on me every now and then.

I'll go pick one up.

It's about the Rudy's potato.

Potatoes are different.

That's a whole different story.

There's that baked potato trailer over on the east side I drove by the other day.

Have you been there?

There's a bakery.

Baked potato trailer.

It's over by

Descata Tacos, which, by the way, are the best fucking tacos on earth if you haven't had those.

I have not been there.

They're the ones that got Michelin starred.

That trailer is phenomenal.

But anyway, across the street, so it's at like 11th and kind of over where the East Side Pies is on the east side.

Rosewood?

Rosewood, somewhere, like maybe a block past that, or right around there.

Descata's on the south side, and then on the north side is this red baked potatoes store trailer.

Well, they have, I don't know what to call it, because they have like an indoor eating area, but all the food is trailer, I think.

Oh, cool.

I've never been there, but I think about you every time I drive by.

Damn, we should have got a potato.

I'll take it.

We should do maybe next episode.

Maybe the next episode should be a potato episode.

Yeah, I'm fine with that.

All right.

I was cleaning out the glove compartment in my car over the weekend.

Uh-huh.

And

it's like I pulled out like all these old cards and like loyalty shit.

It's like, I forgot about this.

I pulled out a loyalty card from Manbite's Dog.

They've probably been out of business for 10 years at this point.

Oh, dude.

What is Manbite's Dog?

It was a hot dog restaurant.

Oh, wow.

It was on Maynor.

It was a trailer on the move.

Maynard.

Then it was a brick and mortar over there where Chu Sando is now.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

It closed down.

Then it became Way South Philly Deli.

Then that closed down.

And now it's Chu Sando.

I went into that Way South Philly Deli one time to eat, and there was nobody in the store and I waited there for a minute and then some lady came out and she was just like

what do you want and I was like I don't I don't know that I want anything and it was like one of the most unpleasant unfriendly experiences I never went back I liked ways out philly too until that day yeah they're gone damn yeah man by sogg was an awesome hot dog restaurant in like 2002

I mean it was a long time ago it was a long time like I was shocked when I found that I should have brought it I tossed it I was like I found that loyalty card like man could have had a free hot dog damn your sausage mcmuffin with egg didn't change your receipt did the sausage mcmuffin with egg extra value meal includes a hash brown and a small coffee for just five dollars only at mcdonald's for a limited time prices and participation may vary bundle and safe with expedia you were made to follow your favorite band and from the front row we were made to quietly save you more expedia made to travel savings vary and subject to availability flight inclusive packages are at all protected i did the same thing i I was cleaning out my car, uh, like the glove compartment, and I found a bunch of old bullshit.

And it was just like, oh, this is like from San Diego.

Like, stuff that is just like, I don't think this is, this isn't in this state.

And also, there's no way it exists anymore.

Yeah.

Like pamphlets and like receipts and stuff.

Like it's something that's important at one point.

Yeah, yeah, about it.

Yeah.

And then you put in the glove box.

Oh, dude, I got to keep this.

I love the spring cleaning

of life.

I didn't do my car over the weekend, but we did something

sort of adjacent to it.

We went through all of our towels and washcloths

and like kitchen towels and just got rid of anything that was old or gross.

And then what we were left with was like a weird mishmash of like different eras of stuff.

Like we had towels from before, from Italy, before she knew me.

I had shit that I've been carrying around forever.

And so we just donated it all and just bought new bath towels and new like

washcloths and stuff, linens,

and exactly what we needed.

And it feels like, I feel like I'm in a fancy house.

Hey, just I've never done that.

It's amazing.

And it wasn't expensive.

It was like 60 bucks or something.

What you're describing, I've never done in my life.

I don't think I'd ever done it either.

We should, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pitch that to my wife.

Life hack.

Yeah, it was cool.

It was a really fun experience.

It's like now I have six towels and they're all the same color.

Life hack, new towels.

And like, I don't, because we, I, we were like, at some point, you just accumulate so much shit too.

Yeah.

We donated nine towels.

Oh my God.

And now we have six towels.

Huh.

That's just math.

It's just math.

Classic math, guys.

So I recommend people do that.

Refresh your towel situation.

Take a look at them.

Take a look at it.

When was the last time you went through like shirts and got rid of stuff?

I do it pretty constantly.

Do you?

Well, I had the, you might have been the same way, but the last like six or seven years of Roost Teeth, Gus and I were getting...

I don't know, 10 new shirts a week from the company.

You know, every new product comes through.

And so you want to do your best to wear it.

You're on a camera and stuff.

Yeah, but you pretty quickly, if you're literally, if your company is literally giving you 120 shirts a year, you got to start churning through stuff.

So, I kind of always am doing that.

We call that the Christmas wardrobe.

Dude, no kidding.

That guy is never not wearing a free t-shirt.

About a year and a half ago, I discovered that Michaels has gilded shirts for $3.

Oh my god, yeah.

I told you guys that.

So, I bought five white shirts and five black shirts.

It's just one of those black shirts.

Hell yeah.

And I got rid of everything else, and I just have those tin shirts now.

I was doing, I bought some stuff at Joanne Fabric, and now Joanne Fabric is fucking gone.

I went to a Joanne Fabric over the weekend.

Oh, my God, really?

It's like they got their big sale.

They're getting rid of stuff.

Yeah.

I saw someone wearing a South by badge in there.

Really?

I was like,

what are you doing?

What are you doing?

Picking up some shit that they need last minute.

That's supposed to be on the palette.

Yeah, I got it.

Check it out, baby.

She was definitely not doing that.

She was shopping with her mom.

Dude, Joanne Fabric going out of business is such a bummer.

I went there a lot.

I wouldn't get four-way stretch spandex spandex for like lucha masks or whatever.

And there was always, there was always stuff on sale.

I get it.

There's some stuff that makes sense there.

Yeah.

But there's a lot.

They also had a lot of garbage.

There's a lot.

That place was mostly garbage.

Well, they all are.

Michael's is mostly garbage, too.

Hobby Lobby don't go there, but they are also mostly garbage.

Yeah.

It's like, man, there's a lot of stuff.

It's like this.

This is just manufactured and it's going to go straight to the landfill.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

A lot of like fabrics that are like, yo, check it out.

This is specifically for Easter.

It's mostly products that they launch 50% off.

If you're paying full price, that's a sucker.

You're a sucker.

I never thought of it that way, and that's absolutely what it is.

It's launching on sale.

Damn.

Yeah, that's, I don't know.

It going out of business is crazy, but also

that's just a lot of brick and mortar now.

Like

ordered on Amazon.

Consolidation.

Yeah.

I mean, what do you do?

You can't be heartbroken that Joanne Fabric is going out of business.

You know what I mean?

An old staple.

Yeah, right?

It's just that.

And Staples is still in business.

There are not many locations in Austin.

It made me think of Office Depot.

Yeah, Office Depot is around.

Office Depot is.

I went there the other day.

That's like sad.

Oh, no.

There's not a staple on Burnett.

Is that an Office Depot?

On Burnett.

Where?

Or on Anderson, rather?

That's an Office Depot.

It's an Office Depot.

See, they're like all the Staples.

It might have.

There used to be one in Mueller, too, but now that's at Sprouts Grocery.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And then there used to be one in the Triangle.

Yeah.

That's where the natural grocery is now.

Did it used to be a Staples right there at third at uh lamar and alt horf or was that always that was an office depot

we should start a website called was it a staples and you can put in an address and it tells you if staples ever existed there i want to do a g of that for the arena from like 2007 there was a bon me trailer at that office depot

oh office max whatever it is right there at old horf and lamar that was so fucking good i forgot about whatever happened to it but that place was awesome that was a good place that's time that's time machine food travel right there if i could i'd go back and eat there oh what would be the spot if you could tenderland what is tenderland

tenderland i miss tenderland i think about tenderland like once a month what was that yeah it was a place over on main or it's where like unit d pizzeria is now it was a little trailer in front of that building before they they actually tore that building down and rebuilt it but they served like uh pork tenderloin sandwiches but they i think it was like a like an iowa style or something right where they like pound it down super thin and it gets all massive it's like the bigger than and that's all i said yeah and and it's like the bun is like comically small on top of it and they would put like mustard and onions and pickles on it.

Damn.

And it was so they were only around for maybe two years.

Yeah and I miss it.

I used to live close to there and I would go there all the time.

There's a there's a Mediterranean trail over there that's pretty good.

Abu Yusef, have you ever been there?

No.

Yeah.

I think that's what it's called.

It's kind of in the same spot.

That was a, yeah.

I think what happened was They got kicked out because that building's going to get torn down and rebuilt like how it looks now.

And they were on Facebook at the time.

They're like, Yeah, we're going to move.

We're going to find a new spot.

And they just never did.

Unity D is not there anymore, right?

It's not, I think it's something else.

I don't go over that area, but I don't either.

It's like where, what, there's that like butcher there, right?

That place people love.

Dideaway.

Didaway.

That's it.

I think Dideaway is still there.

Although Salt and Time closed.

I don't know if you saw that.

I did.

I drove by there and I saw it was gone.

Yeah, it's a new place now.

Salt and Butcher.

Salt and Time closed?

Yeah.

Oh.

Closed a kind of a big deal, closed a couple, maybe six months ago.

Wow, I didn't even realize a new butcher there.

I don't know if it's open yet, but it's it looks like it's built out.

Huh.

I bought a giant ribeye there once.

Just brought my briskets in there.

Dude, if you wanted to spend way too much money on a brisket, Saltatime was the place to go.

Oh, really?

Like, another place to charge you $75 for this brisket the week.

We'll give it to you for $1.8.

Man, did you, speaking of me,

have you seen the bullshit going on around here?

I don't think so.

I believe it was, I could be wrong, I believe it was Dan Patrick is introducing legislation to the Texas legislature to rename the New York Strip the Texas Strip.

Because why should liberal New York get credit for hard-working Texas ranchers?

I believe is the exact quote he said while

tackling the important issues We fixed all the big problems now we can rename meat

What a fucking shit show what a fucking joke this stupid ass state is

rocks

Is this a bottom 10 state?

I'm sure it is.

Oh, yeah, it's gotta be right has to be I think I have a I have a tweet draft that's just been in

forever.

I've just had a tweet draft that just says texas is a bottom 10 state like

like easily it's gotta be i think in in almost any category you can think of it's certainly a bottom 10 state in personal freedoms yeah i just can't like i think it's a hard argument for bottom five but i think you could easily make an argument for bottom 10 yeah bottom 20 absolutely absolutely yeah right yeah right i think you could definitely

I think people would be upset hearing that, but also you would be like, right, but think about it for two seconds and they go, oh, okay.

In most countries, it'd be a bottom five, but most countries don't have Mississippi.

Congratulations.

Thank you, Arkansas, Mississippi, and West Virginia.

Oklahoma.

Have you seen that?

I was shit in Oklahoma.

I didn't go home as all.

Oh, no, no, no, no.

I absolutely will.

Get them.

Get them.

Have you seen the TikTok where it's just a woman going, does anyone care about Nebraska?

She's like in Nebraska talking about it.

Anyone care about Nebraska?

Is it because they're going to go bankrupt?

Yes.

Yeah.

No, nobody gives a shit about Nebraska.

Yeah, no, you just do it.

You're just finding this out now?

Yeah, you're just, you're speedrunning the thing that we're about to do as a nation.

Thanks for for the heads up.

Yeah, appreciate it.

Nebraska.

Does anyone care about Nebraska?

I don't even think I've flown over Nebraska.

I don't know if I have either.

That's a funny way to think about it.

I think it's pretty bold to call yourself a flyover state when no one flies over you.

I fly around state.

You have to fly over.

Yeah, we'll just be curved.

Yeah.

Avoid any Nebraska airspace.

We don't want to go into the engines.

These are expensive.

Do you avoid flying around South Vikas?

No, normally I don't.

In fact, I'm ego fly after this.

Oh, really?

Where are you going to go?

Just kind of putt around?

Yeah.

It's interesting around South By because there are private jets everywhere.

It gets real crowded.

The one time I will avoid flying is during F1.

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We talked about that too much.

That's insane.

South by...

South by not so bad because people come and go

over the course of like a week and a half or two weeks.

F1 is just like all in one week.

It's a lot more concentrated.

It gets really bad, yeah?

yeah like super crowded because it's i i don't know like i until i had flown with you i guess i just didn't realize that like all planes take off from the same place and you are this little plane and you get in line behind like the delta plane and in front of like the united plane and you go

i'm here too yeah yeah it definitely is like yeah we're all taking off right fellas

the funny thing is most of those people who are flying those big planes they started out in that little one exactly

they understand they know it's like, yeah, that was me a few years ago.

I just never thought, like, I just never think about it.

It's like, of course, that's where you take off from.

It's the airport.

Right.

Yeah.

It's like, yeah, I'm sure if you ever look out the window while you're taxiing and like on a commercial flight, you'll see the little plane

flutsing around too.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm never going to sit at the window.

My wife wants to sit at the window.

I got to say, I'm very, very, very,

very, very rarely jealous of Gut.

Very rarely jealous of Gut.

What about?

When we're having a conversation when we're like, he's like, oh, I might go fly today I might not.

Whatever.

Sky's the limit, right?

I love it.

And I'm about to leave this coffee shop to go to a different coffee shop to do research on Woodsy the Owl.

I must admit, I got a bit of jealousy from you.

Woodsy the Owl is an interesting topic.

Is that why you're writing Smokey the Bear?

Hell yeah.

We went to Disneyland a couple weeks ago, and everybody was buying merch.

And I just, I love Disney like a normal adult.

Yeah.

I just can't see owning anything with Donald Duck on it.

Yeah, no, I'm not a Disney characters guy.

but they had a woodsie the owl and smokey the bear shirt and i bought those and i was thinking about how ridiculous it is that i

i feel so or they license it at frontier land or not frontier land even it was at a california adventure in one of those places but uh cars land

it's owned by the federal government commoditize yeah yeah

it was in toe mater's shop uh

it was but i was thinking like these are essentially marketing campaigns by the u.s forestry service in the 70s but i feel so like strongly affectionate toward me.

No, I feel the same way.

I think it's that's why I'm gonna do an episode, but I think it's funny that

you mentioned Disney and you know these

forestry service promotional cartoons and whatnot.

I was at a Vietnamese restaurant over the weekend and they had a TV on that was playing, I guess, like modern Looney Tunes.

Yeah.

I guess it was, I don't know how recent they were, but not like Looney Tunes not made in the 40s.

Yes, yeah, they are still making Looney Tunes, yes.

And I like, you know, it's like, oh, what's going on?

Like Daffy Ducks talking to Bugs Bunny and Porky Pig shows up, whatever, and then look away, eating my food, look back at the TV, and Donald Duck,

sorry, Daffy Duck is riding up an escalator.

And I had to

put my utensils down.

I was like, why is Daffy Duck on an escalator?

Is Bugs Bunny going to pull out a cell phone next?

It was like such a weird thing to see

them interact with technology.

Right, like a modern, or not even that modern, like a piece of technology.

Yeah, even when escalators invented, this is

which made me start thinking about that.

I don't know.

I didn't take the the step to look it up.

I was like, you would never see them do that in the 40s.

So escalators must have been introduced in the 50s or 60s?

I think they came out in the 80s.

If you would have kept.

I've kept in the Saul Rite.

You'll find out.

If you would have kept watching that, you definitely would have seen Bugs Bunny on a cell phone.

That cartoon is, that's what that is.

Because it's a...

He was pulling a crypto scheme.

It's more of a like that Looney Tunes is like a sitcom-y Looney Tunes.

It's like, it's got a story and they're going to the mall or whatever.

but they're still making i think occasionally there are still like loony tunes and stuff that are wacky little merry melodies like short things or whatever i recommend jellystone if you haven't watched jelly stone i hear people love that

it's very funny and it's it's drawn goofy and it's really fun is it a is it about

it's like little like 11 minute things it's not it's not it's more in the vein of like yogi bear uses a cell phone but it is about yogi it is about yogi bear it's it's all the hanna-barbera cartoons live in like a hanna-barbera town and it's animated goofy and shitty and it's great and uh yeah like laugh olympic style where there's just like other like different oh yeah every yeah every everyone's ready yeah and it has it has so many characters that like you went oh i fucking remember that guy from one little spin-off shitty 70s it's all hannah barbera yeah yeah yeah it's all hand like grape ape oh yeah grape ape's there yeah yeah yeah they have

yeah jabber jaws there yeah yeah they have they have one that like one little guy that i made like a twitch emote and his name's like yucca yucca and he's just like this little hyena guy in like a pork pie hat and he just looks stupid and i just went that's my guy whatever he does i'm in uh but yeah it's like hey here's top cat he's like fighting like this other gang and like they're just it's a goofy cartoon it's on max i'd like to see a gritty reboot of that a great yeah top cat loses an arm yeah they uh it's a very fun it's a very fun show

that has really cool animation that I can't recommend enough.

And I had a friend that did some animation, Gene Goldstein, did some really cool animation for it and everything.

And it's great.

It was such a fun show.

And then shockingly, it only had a few seasons and they didn't renew it.

It's on Max, right?

Isn't that crazy?

So it's over already.

Yeah.

Isn't that crazy?

That's nuts.

It's funny you say that about knowing someone who animated that because when I was watching that modern Looney Tunes, I thought, man, someone's out there drawing Bugs Bunny today.

Like,

that's.

Are you kidding me?

That's cool.

There's someone out there voicing Bugs Bunny today.

By the way, there is somebody out there drawing Bugs Bunny right now having sex with Daffy Duck.

I mean, like, just as an author.

See, we all have different afternoons.

We're all different beverages.

Lady gentlemen.

Did you guys do TC beverages?

No.

No?

No, sorry.

Okay, just carrying.

No, no, I'll get you.

Yeah, yeah, thanks.

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What were we saying?

Oh, do you remember Bugsbunny having sex with Daffy Duck?

Going way back.

Talking about Bugsbunny having sex with Daffy Duck.

Do you remember going way, way, way back to Jaycon in Florida?

When early, early Roosteith days, when we would go to that, maybe the first or the second time we went to that event.

04, 05, 05, maybe, yeah.

With Joel.

Joel and Dan, I believe, were there.

We went with Joel, and that girl came over to show her.

And she had this book

on a photo album

with, you know,

art and sleeve, like in binder sleeve.

Right, right.

And she's like, can I show this to you, Joel?

And Joel's like, yeah, okay, sure.

We're signing autographs or whatever.

And she puts it down in front of him.

And she goes, okay, this is Pumba.

This is Lion King.

This is Bugs Bunny.

This is Anaconda.

This is me having sex with an Anaconda.

This is Pumba and

Timon

Eiffel Towering me.

This is me having a threesome with Belle and the Beast.

And it just got

more and more.

And just watching Joel not know how to handle it and just like short circuit and kind of break down.

And it was all really good art, too.

Like, he's really good at it.

You're super talented.

We should hire her.

I think as time went on, we learned how to deal with those situations, but this was early enough where we've never dealt with anything like that.

And it was just like deer in the headlights.

Like, what do I do here?

I've never experienced this.

I delighted.

I was

like physically far enough away from it to be able to watch and enjoy without feeling like a part of it.

So I just sat and enjoyed Joel's discomfort.

What the fuck?

So

how would you have, how would you you have handled it now?

You said like it's been now, it's like you close it.

You're like, okay, thank you for sharing.

We have a line here.

I think we need to keep dealing with these people here.

Thank you for sharing.

Yeah, that's really, yeah, you got a lot of time for it.

I think now, over time, you learn to take the initiative a lot more to like cut it off.

To cut it off and like shortcut to the end.

I just don't agree.

Like, I think that you have to get, like, if that was the mega 64 booth, I'd be going like, wow, this is pretty crazy.

You know who would love this?

Garrett.

Yeah.

But that's why the Mega 64 is still in business and Marcel Teeth isn't.

So maybe think about that.

This is about which way is better.

You're not going to believe this.

I got to go.

We would have done that

to get it to Joel,

but it started at Joel.

Like, that's how that would have gone with us.

We would have been like, oh my God, Joel, you're going to love this.

Well, wait until she gets to Anakanta.

Anyway, look at your watch.

My shift's over.

I just remembered I have to be anywhere else.

Joel, you like

Oh my god.

Oh shit, dude.

I don't miss conventions.

I miss the fun that we had around conventions.

I don't miss conventions.

Conventions to me, I was thinking about this the other day, are I occupy an identical space in my brain that the military does.

I would never want to go back and wear the uniform or go through one day of being in the army again, but I look back on it so fondly and with so much pride.

And I can think of all the great times I had.

Yeah.

But I don't forget all the shitty times I had too that made me never want to do it again.

Exact same feelings towards conventions.

I cherish every ridiculous moment you and I had, or the three of us had, because we spent a lot of time at conventions.

But you couldn't pay me enough to work a booth again.

Anyway, we're looking at doing events again with Tales from the Stinky Dragon.

Oh, my God.

Are you really?

Yeah.

Wow.

Are you fucking serious?

Yeah.

You can go sit and do a booth and do a whole thing.

Hold on.

You got to leave.

You went down your sweater pack.

No, it would be different.

It wouldn't be like working a booth, more like doing a panel and maybe a meet and greet, but not like a full

shipping and unloading merchant.

The way we did it, Russell didn't do it.

Like, Russia stopped doing it that way after we stopped doing it.

Yeah, nobody else wanted to.

Yeah, nobody else.

Yeah, no one else was suckers.

Stop making money, dude.

Take that.

You know what I mean?

That's right.

I like the side talk.

It like, again, I don't miss the convention stuff because Mega64 still does it.

And when I see them

post stuff and it's like goofy fuck around, whatever, I get, that's really like the only time I get like FOMO.

Like I'll see that and I'm like, fuck, man, I would love to be there.

Yeah, but you forget the five-hour thing.

That is the thing.

And then I put my phone down and I go, I'm in my house with all my things.

Just imagine that.

Dude, just imagine going from your hotel to the booth.

Yep.

That process.

Just going down the street.

It's fucking probably hot and humid and you're getting bumped into by people and it's loud and it's obnoxious and people are trying to give you stuff and sell you stuff.

There's not even any free barbecue.

There's no free barbecue.

No free beer anymore.

No free shots on a tray.

And you're fucking jostling through and then somebody hassles you about your badge being backwards and you're like, God damn it, dude.

It's an exhibitor badge.

Come on, do we really have to do this?

And you say, oh, man.

I remember one time, San Diego Comic-Con.

God, it was probably 2010, maybe 2009, somewhere in that era.

And I was walking, I think we were staying at

that like, what was it?

Like a, it was like that next hotel attached to the convention center, like a Marriott or Sheridan or whatever that was.

And I was walking from the event back to the hotel, actually.

It was like the end of the day.

I'm tired.

I got, you know, carrying my shit back.

And I was wearing that

red versus blue shirt, though.

I hate you and the bands that you like.

Oh, yeah.

And like walking in the other direction with some girl who like stops me.

She gets in front of me and she's like, you don't even know the bands that I like.

Oh, my God.

And I was like, I...

Not right now.

I cannot be having this conversation.

I just like, just like stepped around her and just kept going.

I was like, I'm not doing this.

Listen, fuck off.

The first part of the statement statement is very true right now.

You don't even know the bands I like.

Right.

The beginning stands.

The thing that I think, like,

I think the thing that I would have the hardest time with conventions now is being hungover in my 20s and then going to work to the booth was like, this sucks.

It's fine.

I could not do that now.

And there's no way I'm turning down free drinks.

So

what's the happy medium i guess it's not going yeah i think for me i have as much patience as i did back then but i don't have patience stamina yeah oh that's a great that's a really good yeah i think that would be the killer for me i'll just get exhausted fast i just wouldn't have i wouldn't be able to hold i think i think if you guys do do events and you just do a panel and a meet and greet thing or whatever i think that's a great i think it's a great thing that's like for 100 eat we've done that once now

i have it twice when it comes back in like july but there's like a a fan meetup thing or whatever that's like kind of on the back of what rtx was and they rent out like the sunset room and they ask like hey do you guys want to do a you know want to do a panel here or whatever and it's like we'll just do an episode so we just go and we do an episode and that's a blast uh and then we pack it up and then i go home to all my things

and i don't have to be at a hotel you know what i mean it's that that's the now here's the other time i get jealous i'm a little jealous of 100 even that means regulation will never happen we'll never do it

andrew and gavin are never never gonna let it happen and that's fine I respect that but I will I don't miss going to conventions I do miss doing live events yeah yeah the live the live event because you you know how long you're there and it's not five days with a preview day and it's fun to be yes good at that yep you know what I mean like it is a

it's a great experience to perform in that one yeah we should figure we can figure it out for

Something else, but man, it's going to be when it's not regulation, that's going to be the expectation.

That's the hard part.

I don't want anybody down.

yeah i don't want to offer them less than what they deserve and that and that truly is like

i think that's a big reason why we don't you know for like regulation or whatever and it's not all of us so what's the so we can't and that's the point of regulation it's got to be the majority right and if the majority isn't in it yeah or if the minority is super opposed to it yeah that's fine it's cool there are a million other ways we can express ourselves creatively i don't i'm not like fussed about it no no but i must admit that i on occasion i do have a minor lament yeah would love would love to do more of that stuff too i think live shows are just like a lot of fun i also also want to tour, like just

like selfishly, I want to go on a like three-day thing where it's like hit Chicago, Milwaukee, Minneapolis.

You know what I mean?

Like hit, you know, Madison.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

Like that kind of thing where you hit like three cities in like an area that's like a little different.

LA, San Francisco, that kind of thing.

And that, that would be fun.

Yeah, Dungeons and Daddies did a European tour last year.

They did like five cities.

Like, man, that's like a good way to subsidize your vacation.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, you're going for

Peacock.

Oh, my God.

Jesus Christ.

In all the major spots.

Bean hole day.

You were talking about patience.

Yeah.

And your patient stamina.

And whenever I hear the word patience, it like takes me back to working at the call center.

Yeah, you're beaten.

Because like the most common phrase we heard all the time as you were helping an old person was, oh, you have the patience of Job.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I don't know how many times a day I heard that.

I wonder if that's a phrase that dies with that generation.

It's not religious, but.

Well, yeah, I just, I don't think,

I'm asking Gen Z all the time who Job is and they they don't know.

So

the guy from Russian development.

Yeah, the rest of the development's falling off.

They don't keep up with it anymore.

Yeah.

We should talk about Better Half a little bit.

Killer Spot.

A guy asked if we wanted weed drinks.

We said no.

It's South by.

He's loading up a U-Haul van now.

There's a man in the

U-Haul van.

A free weed man.

There's a man in the silliest hat

over there.

But Better Half itself.

He looks like the dude with Curious George.

That's exactly.

Exactly.

Yeah, a man in the big

hat.

Yeah,

except it's like it's like no, no, it's just because that's color, maybe.

This is a, if I lived around here, killer spot.

It's like rural spots.

They still live around here, and I came here all the time.

This is a great spot, but then how do you not know about the parking?

Good stuff.

Because it wasn't, it didn't exist.

As a matter of fact, Emily and I reconnected here.

Like when we

dated and then broke up a couple times, and when we finally reconnected for the last time, it was against the far wall in there.

Oh, wow.

That's where we we got coffee together.

This is a great spot.

They have a pretty extensive menu.

I've seen people eating french fries at

11 a.m.

The problem that this place has, and it's no fault of theirs, is that we're here right after doing St.

Cecilia Hotel.

Oh, yeah.

Which was like impossible at the top.

Yeah, no kidding.

God.

But this place is phenomenal.

This is a great Americano.

There's a good cup of coffee.

You want to go to dinner at St.

Cecilia soon?

Yeah.

I'm going to get a little bit of something together.

Oh, my God.

Yes.

Please.

We're busy.

Okay.

Yeah.

I would invite you to go to the bathroom.

I'm flying at that time.

No, no, no, I'm good.

I'm good.

Thank you.

I only do not invite you to think.

She projected it.

I didn't say anything.

No, no, no.

I'm just letting you know.

I only don't invite you to save you the discomfort of having to say no.

I understand.

Because I know you'll say no.

I understand.

Based on the 30 years of friendship that we've had.

I want to come back here and get something to eat because I bet the food's pretty good.

That's pretty decent.

Let's pretty good.

Because the coffee's pretty good.

Their pastry selection was small.

I was really, I was expecting to see a case of pastries.

This just seems like a pastry spot.

And then you go, oh, they have like food.

This is like a restaurant.

That's what I do.

Chicken and biscuit here.

Yeah.

The coffee I really enjoyed.

How was the iced coffee?

The cold brew?

It was fun.

It was like 7.9.

It wasn't the best I've had, but it's on draft.

This place makes up for it in every other way.

Ambiance is great.

Parking is obviously great.

Listen.

Indoor, outdoor, gorgeous.

Huge lot back on 4th Street.

Yeah, just head back to 4th Street.

Yeah, If you don't want to park in the plentiful parking lot directly in the front,

if you want to do that at an extra 40 steps or whatever, go to the back.

Sometimes I'm arguing.

I would never call that plentiful in the front.

I mean, there were four spaces for you to pick from, but sure.

Four.

I would say this Americana is probably like an 8.5.

Yeah, this is

really solid.

The coffee's right there.

It's 885.

It's very good.

They also, oh, here to go.

And

we got here and we got very cool mugs.

And I will say the mug was very small and the coffee went very fast.

But he's like, oh, there's like you can refill in here.

I just didn't get up in a refill because that would have been my third cup and I didn't eat enough.

Also, I think this place is open until midnight or later because it's a brewery as well.

So yeah, what is all new?

This wasn't here last time I

was at 11 p.m.

10 p.m.

But yeah, holdout brewery.

You can check out.

Yeah, so come check out holdout in the Avengers font.

Yeah, come that stay on the Avengers campus.

The H is just missing that little commitment.

Yeah, you and Hawkeye can park in the back and then come and check it out.

This mug reminds me of Kettle.

Remember Kettle?

It's an old shitty diner?

Yeah, of course.

Where was Kettle?

It does look like Kettle.

It's on 35.

Yeah, there was one just south of Old Tor.

You ever been to Grandy's?

Same thing.

Very similar.

Jim's?

Jim's.

It's like a Jim's.

Got it.

Got it.

Got it.

Got it.

This is the kind of mug that I like.

I love a mug like this.

So, good stuff.

It's brown for the audience.

It is.

It looks like it's from the 70s.

It's brown and it's small.

Yeah.

And this is the kind of mug where you go to, like, I love like a greasy spoon kind of diner or whatever, where they just keep coming around and refilling the coffee.

And you have a mug that's this size and you get about halfway and you just never see the bottom of the cup.

They just keep refilling it and keep refilling it.

And then you have 10 cups of coffee and you're like,

just drive home.

That's my shit.

I love that.

The Tasmanian devil was running around like a dog.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Looney tunes I watched.

Yeah.

I'm telling you, man, Jellystone, that's going to be more your vibe.

He should be up on two legs.

Yeah.

Anyway, Jellystone.

Yeah.

He's got a, he should be trying to eat the rabbit, honestly.

He was acting like a dog to Bucks Bunny, and I did not like that.

It doesn't make any sense.

While we're talking about TV, just so everybody knows, Temptation Island, the Netflix version, starts this week.

Very excited.

If you're listening,

if you're listening to this, it's probably over.

So go

back and watch Temptation Island.

Yeah.

I'm sure it was good.

Probably.

There you go.

This is why we don't listen to Gus's recommendations.

Oh, there you go.

Well,

yep.

Well, thank you guys for listening.

We'll be back next week.

We're getting close.

Will season two be the last season of the show?

Find out on episode eight, which is coming soon.

This is episode five.

We got three more.

And that'll do it.

But we'll see you next time.

Bye.

Bye.