Organ Donor Scandal & Kohberger Sentenced | 7.24.25
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Speaker 3 RFK Jr. is pushing for reform of the organ transplant system after an investigation found what he called horrifying results.
Speaker 4 I mean, if the patient's dying, but they take the patient's organs before they die,
Speaker 4 that's euthanasia.
Speaker 5 What did the investigation find and what plans does the agency have for change?
Speaker 3 I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley. It's Thursday, July 24th, and this is Morningwire.
Speaker 5 University of Idaho killer Brian Koberger is confronted by the loved ones of his victims before learning his fate.
Speaker 7 I sentence the defendant to a fixed term of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
Speaker 3 And protests erupt in the UK after an asylum seeker is accused of sexually assaulting a local girl. And now several protesters have been arrested.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
is demanding reforms to the organ transplant system after a shocking investigation found organs were nearly harvested from dozens of patients who showed signs of life.
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Here with more is Daily Wire reporter Amanda Prestijakimo. So Amanda, let's get into this investigation.
What did they find?
Speaker 10 So this investigation was taken on by HHS's Health Resources and Services Administration. They looked at 351 cases out of Kentucky where organ donation was approved but not completed.
Speaker 10 103 of those cases, about 30%,
Speaker 10 showed what HHS called concerning features, including 73 patients who showed neurological signs incompatible with organ donation.
Speaker 10 At least 28 patients may not have been dead at the time the organ procurement had started.
Speaker 10 Some of these patients died within hours, but others lived for multiple days, and some became well enough to actually leave the hospital.
Speaker 10 Now, outside of this investigation, the New York Times recently highlighted some incredibly disturbing cases where pushes for organs threatened potential donors.
Speaker 10 In one case, a 42-year-old Alabama woman had her chest cut open and her breastbone sawed before the doctors noticed that her heart was still beating and she was breathing.
Speaker 10 Kennedy, who leads HHS, called the investigation findings horrifying, and his department said that they found a systemic disregard for the sanctity of life.
Speaker 10 Kennedy said that organ procurement organizations that coordinate access to these transplants will be held accountable.
Speaker 10 He added that the entire system must be fixed to ensure that every potential donor's life is treated with the sanctity it deserves.
Speaker 3 So it sounds like Kennedy is calling out the organ procurement organizations. Is that who he's blaming here?
Speaker 10 Yeah, so the findings did list a number of issues that need to be addressed, such as poor neurological assessments and the lack of coordination within medical teams.
Speaker 10 But the ethics of organ procurement organizations known as OPOs were specifically called into question.
Speaker 10 Now, this federal inquiry was actually first sparked by a case involving a Kentucky man who overdosed in 2021.
Speaker 10 Now, that OPO, which is now called the Network for Hope, was the center of that investigation.
Speaker 10 While hospital staffers were apparently uncomfortable moving forward, they were scared they were actually committing euthanasia, an OPO coordinator assured staffers that everything was above board.
Speaker 10 Eventually, though, a doctor said he wouldn't move forward, and the man in question apparently cried, pulled his knees to his chest, and shook his head.
Speaker 10 That patient became well enough to leave the hospital, and he's still alive today.
Speaker 10 Two former employees of that OPO told the Times the organ harvesting of that man would have 1,000% moved forward if not for that doctor putting a stop to the OPO.
Speaker 10 Three other former employees said they witnessed similar cases.
Speaker 3 Horrifying. So what sort of reforms are being suggested?
Speaker 10 Well, we actually heard directly from Barry Masa. He's the CEO of Network for Hope, that OPO from Kentucky.
Speaker 10 He said they're committing their own internal investigations and they've implemented new standards to protect organ donors. Here he is before Congress on Wednesday.
Speaker 11 We have devised a checklist for every nurse that is on a DCD case and we provide that to them in real time. We did the same thing with every attending physician.
Speaker 11 We've implemented hard stops so that during any part of the process, they could raise those concerns.
Speaker 10 HHS has outlined a number of procedures for opios to follow, and they're demanding they adopt a formal procedure allowing any staff member to halt a donation process if there are patient safety concerns.
Speaker 10 Kennedy has also threatened to decertify OPOs if they fail to comply with corrective actions outlined by HHS.
Speaker 3 Now, wrapping up here, Amanda, what sort of reactions have we seen to this report?
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Well, you know, tens of thousands of transplants are performed every year across the U.S. They extend and save lives.
And Americans do have a giving spirit.
Speaker 10 It's estimated that about 170 million Americans are organ donors.
Speaker 10 Now, with these findings being published, some folks online are saying that they're not comfortable right now being organ donors and they don't want their loved ones to be either until this issue is resolved and the lives of potential organ donors are protected.
Speaker 3 So it sounds like valid reasons to be concerned, but HHS is looking into it. Amanda, thanks for reporting.
Speaker 10 You're welcome.
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Speaker 3 Brian Koberger was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the murders of four University of Idaho Idaho students on Wednesday.
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The victims' families spoke at the sentencing with Koberger in the room. Daily Wire reporter Mareta Lordy is here with more.
Hey Mairead. So tell us about this very emotional sentencing hearing.
Speaker 12 Hi, John. Yes, so Koberger was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the murders of Kaylee Gonsalves, Madison Mogan, Sana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin.
Speaker 12 He stabbed the four University of Idaho students in the early morning hours of November 13th, 2022 at an off-campus off-campus house.
Speaker 12 Investigators said he had no connection to the victims, but he had planned the murders for months.
Speaker 12 Koberger, who is age 30 and a former PhD student of criminology, had been facing trial next month, but he suddenly changed his plea to guilty for the four counts of first-degree murder and burglary in order to avoid the death penalty.
Speaker 12 The families and friends of the victims spoke at Wednesday's sentencing hearing.
Speaker 12 Some could hardly keep from weeping, and some spoke directly to Koberger and showed their anger, and some even said they forgave him. Meanwhile, Koberger sat and stared with a straight face.
Speaker 12 Overall, just a really striking scene.
Speaker 13 Indeed.
Speaker 5 So, what did some of those victim impact statements look like?
Speaker 12 Olivia Gonsalves, who's the sister of victim Kaylee, delivered a searing statement in which she told her sister's murderer to sit up straight, and onlookers wondered whether she might have gotten under Koberger's skin.
Speaker 14 Some of these might be familiar, so sit up straight when I talk to you. If you were really smart, do you think you'd be here right now?
Speaker 14 What's it like needing this much attention just to feel real?
Speaker 14 You're terrified of being ordinary, aren't you? You didn't win.
Speaker 1 You just exposed yourself as the coward you are.
Speaker 12 You're a delusional, pathetic, hypochondriac loser. Madison Mogan's dad said his daughter supported him in his struggle with addiction.
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Speaker 9 child that I ever had.
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Speaker 9 great thing I ever really did and the only thing I was really ever proud of. And
Speaker 9 I thought we would have
Speaker 9 the rest of our lives together.
Speaker 12 Dylan Mortensen, the roommate who survived Koberger's brutal attack, spoke as well.
Speaker 9 What happened that night changed everything
Speaker 9 because of him
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Speaker 12 Kaylee Gonsalve's father actually physically turned the lectern to face his daughter's killer.
Speaker 13 Today we are here to finish what you started.
Speaker 9 Today
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Speaker 13 Today we are here to prove to the world that you picked the wrong families.
Speaker 12 Kim Cernodel, the aunt of Zana Kernodle, said she has already forgiven Koberger.
Speaker 9 You know, this is probably going to bother everybody, but Brian.
Speaker 12 I'm here today to tell you I have forgiven you because I no longer could live with that hate in my heart. And for me to become a better person, I have forgiven you.
Speaker 12 Koberger said he respectfully declined to speak at his sentencing hearing.
Speaker 12 He will likely be incarcerated in Idaho's only maximum security prison near Boise, which was opened in the 80s to house the state's most disruptive male residents.
Speaker 5 Well, hopefully this is the justice these families waited for these last three years. Mairead, thanks so much for reporting.
Speaker 10 Thanks, John.
Speaker 5 Protests have erupted in the British town of Epping around a hotel being used to house asylum seekers, one of whom allegedly attacked a local girl.
Speaker 5 Local reports say more than a thousand protesters have taken to the street and several people have been arrested.
Speaker 3 Joining us now to discuss is Guy Dampierre of the Prosperity Institute. Guy, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 7 Thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 3 So there have been protests in Epping over a hotel housing asylum seekers and there's allegations now of a sexual assault. So what exactly is going on in Epping?
Speaker 7 So protests began last Thursday and they've carried on over the weekend and they're about a 14-year-old girl. who was sexually assaulted by an asylum seeker living in a nearby hotel.
Speaker 7 Now, the government has failed to stop the small boat crossings that have been going on since 2018.
Speaker 7 So that's asylum seekers getting in small boats, going across the English Channel, and then basically getting picked up and brought into Britain.
Speaker 7 And over 100,000, I think we're closing on 200,000, have come in this way over the last seven years. So there are so many of them that what they've had to do is they had to put them up in hotels.
Speaker 7 But the problem is, for a lot of towns, the hotel is... the place where people go to have their weddings or their celebrations.
Speaker 7 So people are very upset that no matter where they live in the country, they're now getting a hotel with a large number of young foreign men, completely unvetted and sometimes violent and dangerous.
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Right. Now, the claim is a sexual assault of a local girl by one of these asylum seekers.
Is the blowback contained to Epping, or is there a sense that there's growing backlash in other areas as well?
Speaker 7 I think there is at the moment. There are so many headlines coming out that the mood in the country is changing enormously.
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I mean, it's very telling that Epping itself is not a poor northern town like the ones that rioted last year. This is a very leafy area.
It's close to London.
Speaker 7 You know, these are nice middle-class people who are coming out in the streets angrily.
Speaker 7 And that's in large part because not only have we had this massive increase in illegal immigration, but also in legal immigration. We've had millions of people move here.
Speaker 7 It's becoming increasingly clear that that is changing the face of the country at a speed that people are very uncomfortable with.
Speaker 7 There was a story this week based on Freedom of Information requests, which showed that there are more than 2,000 schools in Britain.
Speaker 7 where more than half the pupils don't speak English as their first language. And there were two schools where they couldn't find a single pupil who had English as their first language.
Speaker 7 You have to ask yourself, how are people going to integrate when there's nobody left for them to integrate into?
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So 2,000 schools and two with no English speakers. That's incredible.
So is it just the culture clash or is there something else going on here?
Speaker 7 I think there is more than that. There's the danger, there's the culture, but there's also a third element, which is that Britain's not having a great time economically.
Speaker 7 And immigration has always been promised as something that's a bit of a financial boon, that it'll always be a free lunch. And it's not worked out like that at all.
Speaker 7 It's actually just become a massive welfare magnet.
Speaker 7 So again, we had another very recent story saying that there are now 1.3 million foreigners who are claiming universal credit, which is the main form of benefits.
Speaker 7 So it's not all the benefits, that's just the main kind of benefits. So it's a huge number of people, and it's a huge proportion of the foreigners that live in Britain.
Speaker 7 And we had another story recently that said that... the amount of money being paid out every month in universal credit is getting close to a billion pounds a month.
Speaker 7 So to give some context, last year the government said that there was an enormous financial crisis because we had a £22 billion black hole in public finances.
Speaker 7 Well, with these statistics, more than half of that would just be foreigners claiming benefits. That's not good for the economy.
Speaker 3 Definitely some eye-popping statistics there, and it sounds like it's just clearly not a sustainable situation. Guy, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 10 Oh, it was good fun to be on the DW.
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