The Gas Man | Chapter 1

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Speaker 16 We were returning home and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Catherine Andrew.

Speaker 18 I got to sit in the driver's seat.

Speaker 19 I grew up in an aviation family and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.

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Speaker 23 These small interactions can shape a kid's future.

Speaker 24 It felt like I was the captain.

Speaker 25 Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever.

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Speaker 27 It takes 28 gallons of fuel and a spark to burn a human body.

Speaker 27 The body lays flat for hours, engulfed in flames, as the crematory furnace reaches 1600 degrees, as hot as molten rock.

Speaker 27 Our skin, fat, muscles, and organs vaporize at that temperature, but not our bones.

Speaker 27 When the furnace is turned off, only a skeleton remains, laying prone, like it decided to take a nap.

Speaker 27 If you want to fit those bones into an urn, you have to pulverize them in a machine that looks like a large blender.

Speaker 27 Two heavy blades grind them down into pebble-sized pieces of bone. The ashes are only ashes in name.
They're not soft or powdery to the touch, but coarse like dry sand.

Speaker 27 It's an imperfect process, if perfect means every last bit of us ends up in an urn. Inevitably, some small percentage of our remains falls into literal cracks in the furnace.

Speaker 27 the cracks formed over time by the intense heat.

Speaker 27 Some of us, of our remains, is even mixed with remains of previous cremations.

Speaker 27 But when all is said and done, most of our bones end up in an urn.

Speaker 27 And of course,

Speaker 27 that's if everything goes right.

Speaker 27 From Waveland and Campside Media, this is Noble.

Speaker 27 I'm Sean Raviv.

Speaker 27 Episode 1:

Speaker 27 The Gas Man.

Speaker 27 It's October 2000, and Gerald Cook is driving to a crematory. He's in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains, where he grew up, like his parents, and their parents.

Speaker 27 Like a lot of people from rural northwest Georgia, His family goes back generations in the area. Gerald knows it as a place where if one person does something, somebody else knows about it.

Speaker 27 Gerald works for a propane company and there's a 3,000 gallon gas tank on the back of his truck.

Speaker 27 This isn't normally part of his route, but Gerald has agreed to make the delivery today because the other driver is too scared of going to the crematory.

Speaker 29 He just said it made him feel creepy,

Speaker 29 but he never gave anybody any details. Did he see what I seen? I have no idea.

Speaker 27 The crematory is on a 16-acre property in Noble, Georgia. Noble is a quiet place, not even a real town.
No school, no mayor, maybe 300 people live there.

Speaker 27 It's just a few dozen one-story houses on sprawling tracts of land, some small farms, man-made fishing ponds, the remnants of a shuttered hotel.

Speaker 27 The crematory property used to be the most bustling in all of Noble,

Speaker 27 but now it's a quieter place, and strangers are not welcome.

Speaker 27 But Gerald is there on business. He's driving to the crematory to refill a propane propane tank that's used to power the furnace, where the bodies are burned.

Speaker 27 He turns past an engraved headstone that says Tri-State Crematory. He takes the truck down a long driveway, past a stone-trim ranch-style house.
Gerald comes to a dead end at a cul-de-sac.

Speaker 27 In front of him are a couple storage buildings, and a smaller brown building that houses the crematory.

Speaker 29 It seemed like it was a block building,

Speaker 28 very ragged.

Speaker 29 It was not maintained at all. There was,

Speaker 29 you know, just weeds and junk everywhere and equipment that had broken just left in its place. There were hearses there.

Speaker 29 There was caskets setting out on the ground everywhere. Just a...

Speaker 29 Just a very rough looking place.

Speaker 27 Gerald gets out of his truck, leaving the big diesel engine running, and gets to work. It's normal for Gerald to not bother customers when he makes deliveries.

Speaker 27 Just connect his tank to the customers, deliver the gas, and get out of there. Nobody greets him, so that's exactly what he plans to do, as quickly as possible.

Speaker 27 He isn't sure where the propane tank is, so he walks around a bit, goes behind one of the storage buildings.

Speaker 29 There was a little small tractor there with a front end loader, not far from debris that you might find around buildings and stuff, such as just wood and limbs and whatever.

Speaker 29 And that little tractor, I could tell that it had pushed it all up into a pile.

Speaker 29 And

Speaker 29 that's when I looked down and seen that there was bones and bodies just pushed up in a pile of debris.

Speaker 29 And the tank was not back there. But, you know, I looked at that long enough to see that there was

Speaker 29 human body parts and feet and skin. And

Speaker 29 I just remember one of a foot with

Speaker 29 skin and

Speaker 29 stuff still on it.

Speaker 27 Just a foot.

Speaker 29 Just a foot.

Speaker 27 Gerald stands in place, not quite believing what he sees. Nausea starts to kick in.
Before his mind can fully process that he's looking at human body parts, Gerald hears a voice. Gasman! Gasman!

Speaker 27 Someone is saying.

Speaker 27 He looks up and sees a very large person standing next to his truck, calling for him. Gasman! Gasman.

Speaker 27 He's a young guy, clean cut. He's tall, well over six feet, and broad, like the linebacker he used to be.
His name is Brent Marsh.

Speaker 29 Well, I had enough sense to know that I didn't want him to see me staring at this stuff there. So I ran back to the back of the truck.

Speaker 29 I literally ran and then stopped and walked so he could see me walking and just asking where the propane tank was.

Speaker 29 Basically, he acted very dumb, like I was just simply a driver that didn't have any sense.

Speaker 29 Talked very country, and he just looked at me and said, The tank is over there.

Speaker 27 Gerald goes to where Brent is pointing, behind the crematory building, to where the propane tank is located. Brent follows him.
Gerald is only five foot six, and Brent probably has 80 pounds on him.

Speaker 29 I don't know if I was directly scared of him

Speaker 29 or just scared of

Speaker 29 what I had seen, not knowing how he would feel about the fact that I'd seen it. I did all I could to

Speaker 29 act like I had not seen anything.

Speaker 27 It takes a few minutes to fill up the propane tank. The two men stand there, silent.

Speaker 27 Gerald watching his gas meter, pretending he didn't see those body parts, wondering if Brent Marsh saw him see them.

Speaker 27 Brent's been running the crematory for about five years, since he took it over from his father. He also rents out tents and chairs for funerals and weddings.

Speaker 27 He's got a little white truck that says Brent's tent rental.

Speaker 27 Finally, the tank is full after what feels like a month. Gerald pulls his gas hose back, gets in his truck, and leaves Tri-State Crematory.

Speaker 27 Instead of returning to the office, he drives around for 30 minutes, aimlessly.

Speaker 29 I didn't make any deliveries, just simply driving and thinking and,

Speaker 29 you know, just come to the conclusion that this can't be right.

Speaker 29 I had no idea what the magnitude was.

Speaker 27 Gerald Cook's delivery was the beginning of a saga that would bring incredible scrutiny to a place so small you have to strain to find a sign for it.

Speaker 27 What happened next would affect thousands of lives, become one of the biggest, most expensive investigations in Georgia history, lead to new laws, and ultimately change the way Americans think about one of the most primal and vexing questions we face as human beings.

Speaker 27 What do the living owe the dead?

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Speaker 12 This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad Ryan, real United Airlines customers.

Speaker 16 We were returning home and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Katherine Andrew.

Speaker 18 I got to sit in the driver's seat.

Speaker 19 I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.

Speaker 22 That's Andrew, a real United Pilot.

Speaker 23 These small interactions can shape a kid's future.

Speaker 24 It felt like I was the captain.

Speaker 25 Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever.

Speaker 21 That's how good leads the way.

Speaker 27 When I die, I'd like to be cremated and the ashes placed in a stream somewhere pretty by a person who who loves me.

Speaker 27 I can picture Mike remains being carried away, navigating rocks and leaves until they eventually become one with the moving water.

Speaker 27 I think people, we, usually try to avoid thinking about death and what we want to happen after we die.

Speaker 27 But my job sometimes forces me to think about it and talk to people about it.

Speaker 27 I write about dead people all the time. I've been a journalist for eight years.
I live in Atlanta, write long magazine stories and podcasts on all sorts of complex topics.

Speaker 27 CIA spies, war criminals, police chases, serial killers, those kind of things.

Speaker 27 I once interviewed a man whose wife had been murdered. Her body was never identified, and the man was tormented.
He thought his wife's spirit was still suffering because she wasn't properly buried.

Speaker 27 I didn't know if I agreed with his theory, but I never doubted that his suffering over her was very real.

Speaker 27 His wife was gone, but she lived on in his memory. Even after her death, he saw her in his dreams and spoke to her while awake.

Speaker 27 This is just one of the many contradictions scattered throughout our philosophies about death. We know it's coming for all of us, but we don't know what it is.

Speaker 27 We treat dead bodies like they're precious, sacred even.

Speaker 27 But we're also revolted by them, the way they smell, the way they look.

Speaker 27 We do everything we can to not see the truly ugly thing that is a rotting corpse.

Speaker 27 In October of 2000, as Gerald Cook drove away from Tri-State Crematory after seeing human remains there, he was dealing with that contradiction.

Speaker 27 He almost vomited when he saw the body parts, but he was also concerned they weren't being treated properly.

Speaker 27 Aside from wondering, how did they get there?

Speaker 27 Gerald drove around and around to gather himself, and then he went to the office and spoke to his boss. who said he'd talk to the sheriff about it.

Speaker 28 I've been to many places,

Speaker 28 and I always love coming back home.

Speaker 27 This is Sheriff Steve Wilson. He was born in Northwest Georgia in Walker County, where he's been the sheriff for 27 years.

Speaker 28 You have the mountains here, you have the valleys, you have a decent climate. So as far as those things go, it makes it life easy.
You know,

Speaker 28 7,000 people in Lafayette.

Speaker 27 That's the seat of Walker County. where the courthouse is and the sheriff's office.
Noble, the site of the crematory, is six miles north of downtown Lafayette.

Speaker 28 You know, it's just the way of life. I think we're still

Speaker 28 somewhat

Speaker 28 not a Mayberry, but we're certainly not that big. Even though we do border Chattanooga,

Speaker 28 that it's a city of about 180,000,

Speaker 28 we still have somewhat that rural feel here. And it makes for an easy life, not a fast-paced life.

Speaker 27 Sheriff Wilson grew up spending a lot of of time at the gas station that his dad owned. He was elected sheriff in 1996 with 73% of the vote, and nobody has come close to beating him since.

Speaker 28 We have four cities in the county, then a lot of rural land, so one day you may be talking with a farmer, next day you're talking with a banker.

Speaker 27 And Wilson told me that part of what makes him a popular sheriff is that he has an open door policy. for citizens who want to come and talk about any issues or problems.

Speaker 28 Well, I mean, I have people come in, not every day, but, you know, it's not uncommon for someone to come to the front office and say, I'd like to speak to Sheriff Wilson.

Speaker 28 And if I'm here, I try my best to meet with them.

Speaker 27 And that's what Gerald Cook's boss did. He stopped by the Walker County Sheriff's Office to meet with Wilson.
He told him that Gerald had seen body parts piled up at Tri-State Crematory.

Speaker 28 I think I thought, you know, oh shoot,

Speaker 28 this is just, he's got behind a day or so, and he'll get caught up, you you know.

Speaker 28 I mean, it's a crematorium.

Speaker 28 I think that was pretty much my thoughts. And,

Speaker 28 you know, unfortunately, it turned out that wasn't the case, but that's what I thought at the time.

Speaker 27 Wilson figured this wasn't a crime. What else would you expect to find at a crematory but a dead body? He thought it was a regulatory issue.

Speaker 27 He pulled out a binder with all the Georgia state agencies you could call for assistance, but he couldn't find one that regulated funeral services.

Speaker 27 And after he sent a few deputies to the crematory property, and they apparently didn't see anything, he didn't pursue it any further.

Speaker 27 Like most people in Lafayette, Sheriff Wilson knew the Marshes, the family that owned the crematory.

Speaker 28 You know, they had a good reputation in the community. It was a crematorium.

Speaker 28 You take both of those and add them together. Certainly you wouldn't expect to find what we found.
I mean, I didn't, who would have ever thought of that? Not me, not you, not anyone, I don't guess.

Speaker 28 We just didn't have the luxury of knowing the entire picture, I think. And,

Speaker 28 you know,

Speaker 28 yeah, could we have done something better? Looking back, we probably could have.

Speaker 27 Sheriff Wilson knew of Brent Marsh, the man who called for Gerald at the crematory after he found the human body parts. He'd been a football player at Lafayette High and then at UT Chattanooga.

Speaker 27 He was a deacon in training at his church. Brent's father, Ray Marsh, was a well-known businessman.
The Marsh family was black and had been in the area since slavery times.

Speaker 27 And Sheriff Wilson certainly knew Brent Marsh's mother, but that wasn't particular to him, because everyone in the area knew Clara Marsh, one of the most prominent citizens of Walker County.

Speaker 27 Ray and Clara lived just a couple hundred feet from the crematory, where Gerald had seen the body parts.

Speaker 28 I've looked back on it a million times and said, could we have stopped it sooner? If we'd have have done this, if we'd done A, B, C, or D? And we probably could have, but we didn't.

Speaker 28 I knew it was there, but I'd never been down to the crematorium. I didn't know what a crematorium looked like.

Speaker 28 I mean, it was just one of those things that people in this community, yeah, we knew it was there, but nobody ever asked any questions.

Speaker 28 Nobody ever, I never heard, met anyone that said they had been to it.

Speaker 27 But Gerald Cook had been there in October 2000. He'd seen body parts that didn't seem to be where they should be, even at a crematory run by a family with a stellar reputation.

Speaker 27 Gerald told his boss, and his boss told Sheriff Wilson personally, but nothing really came of it.

Speaker 27 And then, a year after his trip to the crematory, Gerald Cook had to go back.

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Speaker 12 This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan, real United Airlines customers.

Speaker 16 We were returning home, and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Captain Andrew.

Speaker 18 I got to sit in the driver's seat.

Speaker 19 I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.

Speaker 22 That's Andrew, a real United pilot.

Speaker 23 These small interactions can shape a kid's future.

Speaker 24 It felt like I was the captain.

Speaker 25 Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever.

Speaker 21 That's how good leads the way.

Speaker 27 Many years before Gerald Cook, the gas man, ever visited Tri-State Crematory, he learned everything he ever cared to know about the Marsh family.

Speaker 29 Whenever I was a pre-teen, Ray Marsh, Brent's father, came to my house.

Speaker 27 It was 1983, and Gerald was 12 years old. Ray Marsh stopped by the cook house to speak to Gerald's father.

Speaker 29 And asked my father for a forklift that would drive outside, not just on concrete, to pick someone up and take them into the crematory facility because they were so large that he couldn't pick them up.

Speaker 27 Ray Marsh was an industrious and forward-thinking man, the kind of guy who always had the next big idea brewing. And that ran in the family.

Speaker 27 His grandfather, Brent Marsh's great-grandfather, started a sawmill that employed a lot of people in Walker County until it closed in the 1960s. In 1982, Ray saw a need for cremations in the area.

Speaker 27 At that time, anyone from northwest Georgia who wanted a body cremated had to travel two hours down to Atlanta.

Speaker 27 So Ray spent thousands of dollars on a furnace and opened the crematory that his son would later take over.

Speaker 27 He named it Tri-State, because Noble is in the corner of Georgia where it meets Alabama and Tennessee. Ray Marsh's brand new crematory would burn bodies from all three states, so Tri-State.

Speaker 27 He was probably the first black man in Georgia, maybe even the country, to open a crematory.

Speaker 27 And soon after he did so, that's when Ray Marsh ran into a problem with a large body. So he came to Gerald Cook's house to try and borrow his dad's forklift.

Speaker 27 But Gerald's dad told Ray that his forklift couldn't drive on gravel or dirt, so it wouldn't work for Ray like he had hoped.

Speaker 29 And he said, I'll probably just have to cut him up in pieces and burn him a piece at a time.

Speaker 29 Very straight-faced.

Speaker 29 because his fear was just too much fat would catch his crematory on fire.

Speaker 27 You heard this firsthand, wasn't it?

Speaker 29 Yes, I was a small child standing next to my father standing next to him.

Speaker 27 When Gerald told me these stories, he did his best to remember the details and to get them all right. But memory can be tricky.

Speaker 27 It was October 2000 when Gerald, now an adult, first saw body parts with his own eyes outside the crematory building, piled up. It was almost like the story from his childhood had come to life.

Speaker 27 And all of that is on his mind a year later, when when Gerald is once again assigned to make a gas delivery to the property.

Speaker 27 Gerald doesn't usually tell his customers when exactly he's going to arrive, but on this day, his colleague keeps radioing him, asking what time he's going to get to the crematory.

Speaker 29 And they simply asked me what time I was going to be there, and I was like, I'm not sure yet, in the order of how I was running my route.

Speaker 29 And then they call me back again.

Speaker 29 Basically saying that Brent wants to know what time I'm going to be there so he can meet me.

Speaker 29 Well, that made me very, very uncomfortable.

Speaker 27 But Gerald's the kind of guy who does what he's told. Who respects the chain of command.
He told his boss about what he saw at the property. His boss told the sheriff.

Speaker 27 He figured it must have been taken care of, handled. Not a big deal.
Just a stupid mistake or something.

Speaker 27 So again, Gerald goes to Tri-State. Again, he passes the Tri-State headstone.
Again, he turns his truck down the driveway that goes deeper into the Marsh family's property.

Speaker 27 Again, he pulls up in front of the crematory building, next to the storage buildings that almost look like barns, across the driveway from the stone house where Brent's parents, Clara and Ray Marsh, live.

Speaker 27 Gerald sees an old basketball hoop, a two-foot decorative snowman, a porch swing hanging from a wooden beam.

Speaker 27 When he doesn't see anyone around, he backs his truck up to the rustic crematory building, grabs the hose, and pulls it with him as he walks the 25 feet to the propane tank.

Speaker 29 Started filling the tank, and then over to the left,

Speaker 29 to my left side,

Speaker 29 there was a decomposing body laying on the ground on a bodyboard.

Speaker 27 The body is leaning on a pile of debris. He walked over to it to get a better view.

Speaker 29 So it was this thing that looked like it was a,

Speaker 29 if you could think of a wax figure melting.

Speaker 29 Basically, facial features were gone. The shape of the body is there, but it's basically,

Speaker 29 I guess, deteriorating.

Speaker 27 Right then, Gerald sees Brent Marsh come out of another building. He walks up to Gerald, who turns his head and walks back to the gas tank, which is still filling up.

Speaker 29 He's standing next to me, and I looked over, seen it,

Speaker 29 looked back, and he never said a word, I never said a word.

Speaker 27 But you were both standing right next to this body.

Speaker 28 We were within 10 feet of it.

Speaker 27 Gerald keeps his eyes on the gauge. He tries to ignore what he saw and just appear normal to Brent, like it's just two guys shooting the shit.

Speaker 27 But then Gerald looks up again, and he sees a large blue tarp stretched out in the ground in a wooded area. Gerald quickly looks back down at the gas tank.

Speaker 29 And that's when Brent proceeded to tell me. He basically stuttered at that point and said, uh-uh-uh, um, we're having septic problems out there and we've got it all dug up.

Speaker 29 Well, I've had construction equipment and knew that when you dig up for a septic tank, you usually have dirt piles everywhere. There was no dirt at all.
It was simply a blue tarp stretched out.

Speaker 27 Gerald suddenly has a premonition.

Speaker 27 All he can think is, he's probably looking at a mass grave.

Speaker 27 When he's done transferring the gas, Gerald gets out of there, making sure not to look back at where he'd seen the body.

Speaker 27 He goes to see his boss again and tells him, look, I don't get paid enough for this. He can't shake the idea that something is just wrong at the Marsh property.

Speaker 27 But if that's the case, he doesn't understand why the police haven't done anything about it.

Speaker 29 I was never a person in this community that was a crywolf.

Speaker 29 Or you can't trust that guy or believe that guy. I've always been very honest.
And some of the stuff, when you tell me there was nothing going on, it actually attacked me personally.

Speaker 29 Like, I felt very...

Speaker 29 It was confusing because

Speaker 29 I'm pretty simple. If I say this happened, then this happened.

Speaker 29 And if you don't believe me, go look. It's there.
It's been there every time I went.

Speaker 27 Gerald doesn't want to reach out to the sheriff again, so he does the next best thing. He calls his Aunt Faye.

Speaker 27 She's an assistant at an FBI office in Walker County, and Aunt Faye believes her nephew when he tells her that he saw bodies at Tri-State.

Speaker 27 The deliveries at Tri-State changed Gerald. They were seminal moments in his life.

Speaker 27 Before then, he hadn't seen what happened to bodies once you brought them to a funeral home. The steps that are taken behind closed doors so that families don't have to see the ugly part of death.

Speaker 27 But now Gerald had seen death up close. Closer than he ever wanted to.
And he didn't think it was how it was supposed to be.

Speaker 27 Not this graphic. Not this in your face.

Speaker 27 Not lying around like discarded trash. Tell me, can you tell me how it's changed you? You know, what has changed about you?

Speaker 29 Nerves.

Speaker 29 Tend to be nervous a lot.

Speaker 29 Anxiety.

Speaker 29 A lot of bad dreams.

Speaker 29 You know, the scary movies and stuff that people can laugh and watch. I'm the person that's going to shut their eyes.
Just can't tolerate that stuff.

Speaker 29 You know, I don't wake up every day thinking about it at all. Tried to put it in its place.
But I think the scarring that was done was,

Speaker 29 I guess, just impregnated into

Speaker 29 my being. And there were so many people that would try to come up to me and thank me.

Speaker 29 Try to thank you for something that you did

Speaker 29 because they went through a lot of pain.

Speaker 29 And I can't imagine what they went through on that side of it.

Speaker 27 Gerald's part of the story ends here.

Speaker 27 But that thought he had, that he'd seen a mass grave without really seeing one, was prescient.

Speaker 27 And telling Aunt Faye was the best decision he made.

Speaker 27 Because someone with authority eventually believed Aunt Faye.

Speaker 27 the way they never believed Gerald. And what those authorities would ultimately find would be much worse than anything Gerald saw.

Speaker 28 There was a hole that had been dug out in the woods that was partially filled with water. There were skeletons in that.
I mean, guys, this is like a horror movie. That's the first thing I thought.

Speaker 28 I was like, my God, there are skeletons everywhere.

Speaker 27 That's on the next episode of Noble.

Speaker 27 Noble is the production of Waveland and Campside Media. Noble was reported and written by Johnny Kaufman and me, Sean Ravive.

Speaker 27 Johnny Kaufman is our senior producer. Sierra Franco is our associate producer.
Editing by Jason Hoke, Johnny Kaufman, and Matt Scher.

Speaker 27 Fact-checking by Kaylin Lynch. Sound design, mixing, scoring, and original music by Garrett Tiedemann.
Our theme music is La Lucha Esuna Sola by the band Esmerine.

Speaker 27 Campside Media's operations team is Doug Slaiwin, David Eichler, Ashley Warren, Destiny Dingle, and Sabina Mara.

Speaker 27 Jason Hoke is the executive producer at Waveland. The executive producers at Campside Media are Josh Dean, Vanessa Gregoriatis, Adam Hoff, and Matt Scher.

Speaker 1 There are millions of podcasts out there, and you've chosen this one.

Speaker 4 Whether you're a regular or just here on a whim, it's what you have chosen to listen to.

Speaker 6 With Yoto, your kids can have the same choice.

Speaker 5 Yoto is a screen-free, ad-free audio player.

Speaker 9 With hundreds of Yoto cards, there are stories, music, and podcasts like this one, but for kids. Just slot a card into the player and let the adventure begin.

Speaker 11 Check out Yotoplay.com.

Speaker 12 This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan, real United Airlines customers.

Speaker 16 We were returning home and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Kathy and Andrew.

Speaker 18 I got to sit in the driver's seat.

Speaker 20 I grew up in an aviation family and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.

Speaker 22 That's Andrew, a real United pilot.

Speaker 23 These small interactions can shape a kid's future.

Speaker 24 It felt like I was the captain.

Speaker 25 Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever.

Speaker 21 That's how good leads the way.