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Hi there and welcome to your second drink of season two's episode, Take Your Daughter to Work Day.

Well, lady, I went back to our mailbag, like all the way back to the folder that we had for when this episode of the podcast aired and i looked for any letters about take your daughter to work day that maybe we hadn't answered great i mean this is all the way back to 2020.

i love it and let me start with a fan mail flurry Because after this podcast aired, I had really wondered if jitters, the coffee shop, was a real place.

Well, Katie N wrote in and said, I'm listening to the Take Your Daughter to Work Day episode.

And yes, jitters used to be a thing.

I grew up in Boulder City, Nevada, and that is what we had pre-Starbucks.

There was also one at the local community college in Henderson, Nevada.

Not sure if they ever made it to Scranton, Pennsylvania, but I hope that gives some closure to Jenna's 40-minute hunt for nothing.

And Francesca B.

said, there is a jitters coffee shop in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

I don't know when it was established, but the coffee is great and it's very cute.

We also got a letter from I Am Not Your Uncle Steve who said jitters was a real place in the Steamtown Mall.

It was on the corner of the food court and eventually became a candy store.

Oh, so it was in the mall.

I guess it was.

And then finally, Ms.

Rain Shuttle said, My friend's husband's family used to own jitters.

Oh my gosh, you found the people.

But the mall refused to renew their lease and replaced it with a Starbucks.

Oh.

But I have to just say thank you, everyone, because when I was revisiting our breakdown of this, I was reminded that I spent a very long time trying to find out if Jitters was a real place, and I appreciate knowing.

Yeah.

Well, you guys also sent in some fun background catches for this episode.

I love a background catch.

This one from Teresa W is fantastic.

Okay, so listen, you might remember that we had been tracking Angela and Roy and we had been looking for signs of their romance.

And I also loved how Teresa started her letter.

Ready?

Okay.

She wrote, okay, okay, okay.

Get ready for your mind to be blown.

Eight exclamation points.

You guys are tracking Angela and Roy.

At around 15 minutes of the Bring Your Daughter to Workday episode, when Roy is wrestling with Meredith's kid, it zooms out to Jim and in the background is Angela watching Roy wrestle and smiling.

I think that Angela sees how strong Roy is and is pleased with him.

I think she also sees how fun he can be and Angela is kind of attracted to that.

I mean, I have no doubt that Angela was delighted watching Roy wrestle, be kind of a dad figure.

I think she was into him.

You know, did Angela have more lovers on the show than anyone else?

I was thinking about this the other day

because she is so judgmental of Pam.

The Pam, Pam, the office mattress.

Exactly.

But the truth is,

she dated a lot of folks and a lot of folks in the office.

It's true.

It is true.

Andy and Dwight, but also the senator.

Yes.

Am I missing someone?

I feel like there's someone I'm missing.

The senator wasn't in the office.

No, true.

But I don't know.

Well, she did say that she's had more than one set of men duel over her.

Yes, exactly.

Another background catch comes from Boss McKay.

Basma says, Toby does something interesting in the background at 11 minutes and 26 seconds.

And then again at 11 minutes and 30 seconds.

He's in the kitchen behind the window blinds.

quietly watching Michael give a tour of the office to the kids as Creed begins to take off his shoes.

I just thought Paul was hilarious in that scene.

You know, one of my favorite things about re-watching the show is watching little background moments like this

because we were always just filling the moment with our reactions to things.

And you really can't see them all the first time you watch.

So I loved this.

Thank you for pointing this out.

This was very, very fun.

Well, I noticed that we didn't talk much about the deleted scenes in this episode, and a lot of them have been added back to the Peacock Superfan episode.

My favorite is a new cold open conference room scene.

Angela, you are trying to set the menu for Take Your Daughter to Work Day.

You have to hear it.

I think five plain and one veggies should be fine.

How about pepperoni?

No.

I like extra cheese?

Absolutely not.

I like extra cheese too.

Fine.

The first lesson we'll teach the children will be about obesity.

And then you can't really hear it, but under his breath, BJS Ryan goes, Thank you.

Because he's going to get the pizza he wanted.

The other two deleted moments that I wanted to flag, they're real heartbreakers, actually.

The first one was pointed out by Logan T., who said, I don't know if you noticed this or not, but in Boys and Girls, Pam is drawing a picture that you can see at 14 minutes and 54 seconds.

And then it comes up later in a deleted scene of Take Your Daughter to Work Day when Kevin's girlfriend's daughter sees that same picture on Pam's desk.

Yes, well, Kevin's fiancé's daughter, Abby, is played by Greg's daughter, Haley.

Yes.

So in this episode, Pam is desperately trying to bond with a kid.

And at one point, Abby comes up to her desk to get some candy, and Abby and Pam have this little exchange when Abby notices this drawing.

Let's listen.

Did you draw that?

Yeah.

Do you like to draw, Abby?

Yeah, I want to be an artist when I grow up.

Me too.

You are grown up.

You are grown-up.

I know.

This is the truth out of like the mouth of babes.

Yes, yes.

And then there was also a tag at the end of the episode that is new in the Superfan episode.

It shows Michael continuing to watch the footage from the children's show.

Remember earlier, we see part of the children's show that Ryan had to go to his mom's house to get the tape.

But the only part we see in the episode, as it originally aired, was the part where little Michael is being very awkward and he's saying he wants to have a hundred kids so he can have a hundred friends, so no one can say no to being his friend.

But in the footage at the end, little Michael is seen performing magic for the other kids and he's making them laugh.

And then at the end, a little girl comes up and whispers in his ear, and he smiles like she's maybe flirting with him.

It is so touching.

And this is one that I really wish lived in the original episode.

It is such a tender moment.

And just, again, some of the things I'm loving in these new little nuggets that Dave Rogers is so carefully crafting.

Yes.

Finally, I just wanted to say thank you to my fellow Lubies lovers out there.

You know, Lubies, the cafeteria I would go to with my grandparents.

Oh, you talk all about it in the middle.

I know.

I know.

Well, Tyler M.

from Wichita Falls, Texas.

What's up, Wichita Falls?

I mean, you know, I know Wichita Falls.

I mean, we went there all the time.

Tyler says, my great-grandparents always took me to Luby's anytime I was with them.

Tyler, I bet we were there at the same time.

Probably.

Tyler says, my heart was warmed hearing Angela rave about it.

I got super ecstatic hearing her even just mention Texoma.

And next thing you know, she mentioned my hometown.

And Diana Kaye said, growing up in San Antonio, I ate there all the time with my grandparents.

It was clearly a grandparents go-to.

We would meet them there at the same location on Sunday afternoons following church, and it was the highlight of my week.

I loved getting my own tray and picking out whatever I wanted, including dessert and feeling so grown up.

Now when I visit, I try to eat at one at least once.

Woohoo, Texas Girls Unite.

I love those.

Well, listen, thanks everyone for listening and please enjoy our breakdown of Take Your Daughter to Work Day.

I'm Jenna Fisher.

And I'm Angela Kinsey.

We were on the office together.

And we're best friends.

And now we're doing the Ultimate Office Rewatch Podcast just for you.

Each week, we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind-the-scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you.

We're the office ladies.

Hey.

Hello.

If you have a daughter, you can take her to work today.

Yes.

It's Take Your Daughter to Work Day.

To Dunder Mifflin.

Season two, episode 18.

This one's written by Mindy Kaling and directed by Victor Nelly Jr.

Victor Nelly.

Second one he's directed.

Yes, prolific TV director.

He's fantastic.

We really liked him.

He was so nice.

Should I start with a summary?

Jenna, you know that's how you start.

I know.

Just do it.

I should just do it in order.

I like every week, though, that you ask me.

Every week you're like, should I start with a summary?

Like, what if I was like, no, not today, lady?

What would I do?

I don't know.

Would I listen to you or would I just do it anyway?

It'd probably be During Headlights.

You know what?

Try it some week and we'll see.

Okay, I will.

But not this week.

You told me to do it.

Do it.

Here I go.

In this episode, the Dunder Mifflin employees bring their daughters to work for the day.

Stanley brings his teenage daughter, who starts crushing on Ryan.

I mean, she's just a version of Mindy, right?

A little bit.

A little bit.

What is it about Ryan?

The ladies love Ryan.

I know.

Kevin brings his fiancé's daughter.

Right.

Meredith brings her son, and Toby brings his kind of shy five-year-old daughter who ends up bonding with Michael.

Also, in this episode, Pam makes it her mission to befriend just one kid.

Just one.

Yeah, we learned that Pam is not good with kids.

Apparently, not.

All right, should we do our fast facts?

Why are you asking me?

Because that's part of it.

Yes, do them.

Part of doing the fast facts is me asking you if I should do the fast facts.

Fast facts, Jenna.

You should do your favorite fast facts.

Fast fact number one.

We got a lot of questions about the kids in this episode.

So let's break them down one by one.

Stanley's daughter, Melissa, was played by Jazz Ray Cole.

Okay.

And she is a professional actress.

No relation to anyone on the show.

We hired her.

She was also on the sitcom, My Wife and Kids.

When she shot this episode, she was 17 or 18 years old.

So her birthday is in February.

And I think that's right around the time we were shooting.

And I have this memory of her telling me that she had just turned 18.

Aww, when I first came to Los Angeles, I was in my 20s, but I looked like I was a teenager.

Right.

And so I had this special agent who would send me out for roles to play high school kids.

Because when you have a kid on a set, they have very limited work hours.

They have child hours according to the union rules.

And so they can't work as long of days.

They have to take these breaks.

There has to be a tutor who teaches them school stuff.

So if you look older than 18, but you can play a kid, this is like a little niche market.

I was in 90210.

Oh my gosh, Angela.

No, you were not.

I was in 90210 and I didn't have lines.

My biggest moment, though, was when I played Tori Spelling's sorority sister.

Uh-huh.

And we were collecting votes.

I think they were going to vote some girl out.

of the sorority and I collected the votes and I had to hand them to Tori.

Whoa.

Yes.

So I remember, I remember it like it was kind of cool if you, you know, could get parts like that because you could work longer hours and you were older playing younger.

I got to be in the movie Pleasantville with Toby Maguire and Yes Witherspoon.

That's a good one.

Uh-huh.

And I got to work a whole week, which is really exciting.

I was just a featured extra.

Me too.

When I was the sorority sister, I was the featured extra.

Yes, I was a featured extra in Pleasantville because I was over 18 to play under.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh, I love that.

Toby's daughter, Sasha, was played by Delaney Ruth Farrell.

Now, here's a little interesting tidbit about her.

What?

She was the daughter of our set dresser, Sean Farrell.

Aw.

So you maybe remember we had an establishing shot of Toby's desk a while ago where he explains that he's divorced and he has a daughter and there is a picture of a little blonde girl.

He says this is Sasha.

That picture was placed there by Sean of his daughter.

So when it came time to do this episode, we kind of had to use her.

Wait, so did, wait,

did Sean just sort of make that happen?

Yeah, Sean just put a picture of his daughter on Toby's desk.

Well, she's very cute.

So cute.

And she was so good.

She did great.

Not an actress, just daughter of our set dresser.

Yeah.

And she's going to come back again in Family Portrait Day.

Okay, so now Meredith's son.

Meredith.

Sean's son is hard to say.

Meredith's son.

Guys, Jenna has tried it three times.

I have.

Meredith's son

Palmer was played by Spencer Daniels.

No relation to Greg Daniels.

Nope.

Wikipedia, you're wrong.

Okay.

Did you hear us?

Fix it.

Okay.

Maybe that was somewhere else I read.

Dunderpedia.

Maybe it was Dunderpedia.

One of the pedias is saying that Spencer Daniels is Greg Daniels' son.

He is not.

That's not the case.

Now, Spencer is also going to come back in season eight, episode 24, Family Portrait Day.

Fan question from curly-haired Tess and Hannah Burcell and Lisa Farr and many others.

Was Meredith's son played by the same actor when he came back as the stripper for Angela's Bachelorette party in season nine?

We'll get there, but that's one of the most uncomfortable moments of my life.

Yes, it's the same actor.

Yes.

Oh, go.

Yes.

Yes, same guy.

And he's still acting today.

So he is a professional actor.

That

wasn't for him as a person.

It was just that.

Right.

It's just a young person.

We met him when he was a boy.

Oh, and then when he was a man, he stripped at your fictional bachelorette party.

Okay.

Okay.

And then finally, there was Kevin's fiancé's daughter, Abby, who was played by Haley Daniels.

who is Greg Daniels' daughter.

Yes, Haley is so, so sweet.

Yeah.

And she did a great job.

She's so good.

Not an actor.

Not an actor.

She did such a great job.

She had to be very deadpan and i thought she was hilarious fast fact number two a lot of people ask what was it like to do an episode with all these kids around

now what did you remember about that ange

well i mean hale was in our little accounting nook quite a bit and i just wanted to make sure she was good yeah i think i just wanted to make sure she would i was like do you are do you need to go to the bathroom do you have snacks i just sort of became that person yeah but obviously when kids are in an adult work environment you do change your behavior, or you should.

So I remember we got a little lecture about it.

Yeah.

Oh, we got a little talking to you.

We got a little talking to actually.

At the beginning of filming.

Yeah.

At the beginning of filming, just like, hey guys, there's going to be kids on set.

Let's just mind our manners today.

And actually, when Michael and you have that scene in the cold open where you're like, Michael, I talked to you about this.

That actually reminded me of whenever we had people visiting the set.

Yeah.

Whenever sometimes families would visit the set, they would win like some type of visit and a whole family would come.

And a lot of times our AD, Kelly Cantley, would be like, hey, everyone, heads up, young children.

Keep it G-rated.

Not that we were like a body group, but you know, it's like a group of adults all day.

I feel like when there weren't kids around, though, there was quite a bit of cursing.

There were, yes, that's, you know, so there were adult words.

But there were adult words.

But besides that, we weren't

super like weird or inappropriate or anything no but our scripts were half the time

half the time there were things that were said within the context of a script where i'm like oh yeah

yeah that's true okay all right fast fact number three this was sent in by a fan i loved this thank you so much kelly nudo she tipped me off to the fact that fundle bundle You know, the little TV program that Michael was on as a child in this episode, it was inspired by a real local children's program in Scranton called The Land of Hatchy Malatchie.

Oh my lord, I love that.

Yes, it was a little program for kids that started in the 50s.

It ran for almost 25 years.

Local.

Local Scranton.

Yes.

It featured songs and appearances by kids, just like our version.

It was originally hosted by a woman named Nancy Berg, who was referred to as Miss Nancy.

And then it was hosted by Miss Judy, who was played by Lois Burns.

I don't know why they called her Miss Judy when her name was Lois, but they did.

And of course, in our version, we had Miss Trudy,

who was played by actress Sue Nelson.

And Edward R.

Meow.

Yes.

But this was really sweet.

Lois, who played Miss Judy, was interviewed recently about her time on the land of Hatchy Malatchie.

And she said, Hatchie Malatchie.

Hatchie Malatchee.

Hatchie Malatchie.

Sorry.

It just makes me laugh.

I know.

Okay.

What did she say about the land of Hatchy Malatche?

She said that their goal was to make sure that every kid knew they were important.

Aww.

I love that.

I love that little tidbit.

Thank you, Kelly, for writing in because that is like, I don't even know how we would find that.

No, that's so great.

That's not on any of the

websites that I usually go to for research.

For the deep dive?

Yeah.

So thank you.

She's over on Office Ladies Pod over on our Insta.

She sent me a message.

Oh, that's so cool.

Thanks.

All right.

Those were some really good fast facts, lady.

High five.

Oh, high five, me.

That was Jen and I high fiving.

It was.

It's kind of awkward because we have to reach across the table and two microphones.

And I always worry about your cards.

Don't mess up my cards.

Don't mess up your cards.

All right, let's take a break and come back and get into this episode.

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All right, we're back.

Let's start breaking down this episode.

We open with a Pam talking head.

Yeah.

She explains that it's take your daughter to work day.

And she says, I'm not actually great with kids, but I want to get better because I'm getting married.

So she's going to put out lots of extra candy on her desk.

Lots of candy.

She got like a potted plant.

Did you see that?

That was like a last-minute store graph.

There's like all of a sudden a plant.

No, I did not notice that.

I have a little thing for my background pals.

All right.

At nine seconds, freeze frame.

You're going to see over your shoulder, it's on the accounting side.

Okay.

The Uncle Sam.

Do you remember the Uncle Sam?

Oh, yeah.

Why did we have that guy?

It was a doll of Uncle Sam.

Yeah.

He had the 4th of July hat on.

He had a flag.

You could hit a button, and I think he would play Yankee Doodle Dandy or something.

I don't know.

It sat there.

When did he show up?

From the beginning?

I think he's there from the beginning.

I mean, I have a memory of him because I would turn around to go and talk to you.

He's what I would pass first.

So the first time I turned around, I was like, oh, God.

History of Uncle Sam is a common national personification of the U.S.

federal government.

According to legend, it came into use during the War of 1812 and was supposedly named for Samuel Wilson.

Who was Samuel Wilson?

Well, I'll click on him.

I'll tell you.

Where are you reading this?

Is this Wikipedia?

Wikipedia.

Samuel Wilson was a meatpacker from Troy, New York, whose name is purportedly the source of the personification of the United States, Uncle Sam.

Kind of looks like going in a circle.

It's going in a circle.

I need to know more about meatpacker Sam.

Meatpacker Sam.

Anyway, that's Uncle Sam.

He sat over my shoulder for nine years.

I think I'm going to spend more time on that after the podcast is over.

So if you want more Uncle Sam facts, I might bring them to our candy bag.

Okay, bring them to the candy bag.

So I noticed something for kind of the detail folks.

At 21 seconds, the candy on Pam's desk is suckers and lifesavers.

Lollipop things.

Yeah, it pretty much stays that way.

However, in the previous shot, at 10 seconds, there's a bowl of lemon drops, a bowl of Starburst, and a candy dish full of jelly beans.

And then those are gone, and then there's lollipops.

Yeah.

Candy continuity.

Candy continuity.

What happened?

And then I hold up bags of even more candy, which is none of those things.

It's like Jolly Ranchers.

Yep.

I know.

Fan question from Michelle Monge.

Did Jenna get to decide what candy was sitting at reception?

No.

I'm going to say no.

They just gave it to me.

But she also wants to know, how often did you guys eat it?

A lot.

I ate a ton of that candy all the time.

Everybody.

I would get sick.

People would walk up and you would think they were coming to talk to you, but they were just coming for candy.

It's true.

I remember you would sometimes be like, oh, hey.

And then it was just like

digging in the candy bowl.

I don't remember you eating a lot of it.

Do you have a sweet tooth?

I don't think of you as having a candy sweet tooth.

No.

No.

I don't.

Yep.

We're different that way.

We're different.

I do.

All right.

So now Michael comes out of his office and Pam explains that he cannot be nasty today because kids are coming.

Name's Pam.

Miss Beasley, if you're nasty.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Are you having a wardrobe malfunction?

Janet Jackson.

You're like, no, stop.

Shut it down, Michael.

Shut it down.

So Michael is very annoyed.

He has a talking head.

He says he,

why is he going to be held back today?

He is like Eddie Murphy and Raw.

He is HBO.

No limits.

No limits.

And now we're asking him to be Eddie Murphy in Daddy Daycare.

No.

I mean, can you, why are we doing this to him?

I don't know.

I mean, I love that he thinks of as his workplace, as like a place where our rated content

should be.

That's, that's where it happens, is at work.

He's like a human resources nightmare.

He is.

So Pam convinces Michael to welcome the kids.

He comes out into the bullpen.

He tries to welcome them.

I don't know.

He really is not into it.

He's not into it, but he tries to compare, compare, like, hmm, let me put this in kids speak.

Oh, I should compare myself to a superhero.

And so he's like, I'm like the, you know, guy,

I'm like Superman in Gotham City.

And it's the one time, like, this happens so rarely when Jim and Dwight are both on the same page.

They're like, that's Batman.

And he's like, ugh, fine, a mquaman.

But it's like, Jim and Dwight were actually like together.

It's true.

For one moment.

For that one moment to correct Michael.

Yeah.

Okay.

Can we just talk about how cute the little girl that plays Sasha is?

Yeah.

And when Paul, as Toby walks her through the kitchen and then Dwight's like, hello, tiny one, you are the future.

Like just Dwight's idea and like how he sees children, it just made me laugh.

I think Toby seems like a really good father in this episode.

I do too.

Yeah.

He has the most kind of

He's gentle and kind.

Parental instincts of all the people that we see parenting in this episode.

I agree.

I think Toby's a great dad.

He might be a little sad, but he's a great dad.

So now we go to the scene in accounting where Kevin is explaining his file cabinet to Abby.

Oh, man.

She's thrilled.

She's thrilled.

I mean, you know, he's showing her the file cabinet, but there is a giant vat of M ⁇ Ms.

Yeah.

Like, why doesn't he just say, do you want some M ⁇ Ms?

At 2 minutes, 30 seconds, we had a fan catch.

Okay.

Fayelle 123 says Angela has a dog photo on her side of the partition.

Angela, she is not the only person who noticed this.

Michelle Sexton also noticed, we got two emails about this dog poster on your partition.

Michelle wants to know, what does the sign say?

I tried to look at it and I couldn't tell what it says.

Okay, well, actually, there's a great screen grab of it at 44 seconds.

Oh, okay.

The dog is actually holding up a sign.

and it says will love for food

oh and i think it's like an adoption or like food donation or something for animals.

Do you remember this going up?

Why did it all of a sudden appear on your side of the?

Yeah, it wasn't normally there.

And I will tell you guys this: I don't know specifically why this one went up at that moment, but I can tell you sometimes Matt Zone, our B camera operator, or Randall Einhorn, A camera, would need to be shooting and accounting.

And they work quite a bit for this episode.

And that glass partition would make a glare.

Okay.

And so sometimes they would would strategically put a little piece of paper of some kind on the glass partition to sort of block the bounce of that glare.

Oh, so that they wouldn't get their own reflection from the glass.

Yeah.

And so they did that sometimes.

So all of a sudden I'd sit down to do a scene and I'd be like, what is that?

Where are all these papers?

Yeah.

And it would be to sort of block that glare and

them being able to see the camera or the boom.

Oh my gosh, so the dog paper was a glare blocker.

I think the way they were shooting to catch Abby through the partition and Kevin, there was a glare.

And so they put that up.

They would often do that.

And then that's when I would have random signs on the partition.

And you know that Kevin and I, I've said this before, of everywhere in the bullpen, we're the only desk pod with a partition.

Yes.

And you know my backstory for this is I think Angela Martin requested it because Kevin's disgusting.

Well, next we move to Kevin's talking head, where he just says he really hopes that Abby doesn't look on his computer.

Why is Kevin such a perv?

This is the second time he's worried about what's on his computer.

I mean, Kevin, did you learn nothing after email surveillance?

I know, but also.

You didn't scrub your computer after that?

Also, Kevin, just stop being gross.

All right.

So now Stanley introduces Michael to his daughter, Melissa.

Oh, man.

She's wearing some headphones.

Michael says,

wow.

How do we explain what Michael says?

He says she's a stone-cold fox yeah and to keep the frat boys away from her and then she says I'm in eighth grade yeah oh she's a middle schooler oh Michael that was really awkward this moves us into Michael's talking head where he says this is a quote that a lot of people emailed about he says it's not that children make me uncomfortable it's just why be a dad when you can be a fun uncle And a lot of people thought that this was a continuity error because we've heard so much about how Michael wants a family and wants to have kids.

And they were saying, why does Michael say that he doesn't want to be a dad?

Oh, no.

He's not saying that.

He's

he's compensating for the fact that he's not a dad.

I think he's just giving himself a pep talk.

Yeah.

All Michael wants to do is have a family.

For sure.

For sure.

And I think in this moment, he's just like trying to put a good spin on where his life is at.

for himself.

I think so too.

Yeah.

I think so too.

It kind of made me sad because you know that's not really where his heart's at.

Oh, just wait.

I know.

I mean,

I sobbed twice during this episode.

We'll get to that.

At three minutes, 31 seconds, we meet Jake, Meredith's son.

Yeah.

Meredith's son.

Meredith's son.

A hard thing to say.

He was suspended from school.

He's kind of a rascal.

That's a nice way to put it.

I know.

I wrote a different word.

It rhymes with Schmashmoe.

But yeah, he's just not nice.

And I'm I'm like, I mean, he's like throwing things at people.

Yeah.

He's like a name.

Insulting her.

I know.

His shirt.

Did you see what his shirt says?

Yes.

It says something like, I have already forgotten your name.

Yes, that's what it says.

I mean, Meredith.

Meredith.

Why are you letting him walk around with that on?

Yeah.

Okay, so the next scene I love, it's three minutes, 44 seconds.

We're in the conference room.

We're setting up for something.

It looks like there might be a party aspect to the stay.

It's you, Kelly, and Ryan.

Kelly's helping me put a tablecloth on the conference rooms.

But she's, I just want to say, remember in the Christmas episode when Cam is not helping you put it on?

Yeah.

Kelly is also not really helping you put it on.

Anytime there's a party, I totally relate to Angela because you guys are a bunch of jerks.

You know what?

I help.

I have a feeling that every time we try to help you with that tablecloth, you yell at us.

I don't think so.

And that's why we're not helping you with it.

I don't think so.

You probably nitpick how we're doing it.

That's what I, why does no one help you with the tablecloth?

Because you're a bunch of slackers.

Nope, you're a bunch of slackers because you because you'll say just as you're you're about to shoot down a child and so I'm just saying anyway, this might be why it's all on you trying to set up for this party.

Ryan and Kelly aren't helping.

I know Kelly's looking at Ryan.

Ryan's like, don't look at me.

And I'm in the meantime like, eh.

Anyway, Toby walks in with Sasha, his daughter, and she very sweetly says, Can I help?

So sweet.

So sweet.

Angel's like, no, no.

I'd have to explain everything to to you.

No.

And then Kelly, I look at Kelly and I'm like, no.

And I love Paul's delivery of like, well, I didn't see it going that way.

Yeah.

He's like, that's not what I was expecting.

That's not what I was expecting.

Yes.

I love that scene.

Kelly was so excited.

She's like, I love babies.

I can't wait to have babies.

Ryan is really funny in this episode.

BJ is great.

He has some really funny moments.

And he's just like, basically, Kelly just,

her idea of hooking up is just having babies with me as soon as possible.

Well, his talking head, he's like, Kelly and I agreed we were just going to have fun.

But what I'm realizing is that fun for Kelly means getting married and having babies as soon as possible with me.

So that's her definition of having fun.

And don't hook up with anyone like that on February 13th.

That's right.

I like your line in this scene, Angela.

I get quoted this a lot.

Yeah.

When she asked me if I would like to have kids and I say, well, maybe some small, well-behaved boys.

Yeah.

So weird.

Small, well-behaved boys.

Small.

I don't want big, big boys.

Apparently not.

I want tiny petite boys.

All right.

So next up, Michael is on the phone to corporate and Toby's daughter, Sasha, walks in.

Yeah.

She, then she leaves, but then she comes back later and starts playing with his toy train.

They're so sweet together.

So sweet.

Michael's so tickled.

He's having such a great time with her.

I know.

They do the train whistle.

And he really, Steve, when we were filming that, Steve actually kept making the kids crack up.

Do you remember that?

I remember how hard it was for Haley to keep a straight face and Delaney too.

Steve was cracking her up.

It was really sweet.

But we had a couple fan questions about that.

Katie Procedo said, I always love episodes where we get to see Michael interacting with kids because you can just tell that Steve Corell likes being around kids.

He's a great dad.

He is.

And Beth White said, is Steve really this good with kids in real life?

Yes.

He is.

He is.

He is.

The kids were so tickled by him.

He's a sweetheart.

And we should say, you mentioned earlier, Angela, how families would sometimes come and visit.

Steve was such a great ambassador for the show.

He would always go into our green room and meet the families and take the kids on a little tour and show them his office.

Yes.

Well, I think now Pam is going to try to get Abby to help her shred some old documents.

Shut down.

Yeah.

Pam gets shut down.

No, Abby's reading on the couch in reception.

But then Jim says, hey, I've read that book.

They have a little banter.

And then bond.

Yeah.

Abby agrees to help him with sales.

Now, I want to say something here.

Okay.

I feel a soapbox coming.

It's tiny.

It's a very, it's a small opinion.

Okay.

Observation.

Okay.

Jim knows.

that it's Pam's goal to befriend a kid.

But rather than help her bond with Abby, he just kind of shows off

and steals Abby away.

I think this is hurt feelings, Pam talking.

But did you notice?

I mean, I thought that was a little bit of like.

Passive aggressive?

I don't know what it is, but it was a little bit of like, come on, it's not that hard.

I can do it.

Like, like, Jim.

Watch me bond with a kid.

So it's like a competition?

Yes, it felt a little bit weirdly competitive.

Hmm.

Okay.

Do you not see that?

Well, I guess I do.

I guess I also just thought Jim was being really nice.

No, he knows Pam's goal.

And I think if he were really being nice, at the end of that whole spiel, he would have said, and Pam, why don't you join us?

Or he might have said, do you know who else loves books?

Pam?

Yes, yes.

This is what I'm saying.

He doesn't help facilitate anything.

He just comes in and shows off.

Maybe it's not his job to help Pam.

It is.

It is his job to help her.

Pam is not his responsibility.

Pam is getting married.

He's ticked off.

See, that's what I'm saying.

Oh, that's what I'm saying.

That's what's underneath it.

If, see,

before they got in all these little fights and all the wedding date was set, I think Jim would have facilitated.

Maybe.

But now he's like boundary Jim.

Now he's like, I have boundaries.

I don't help you anymore because I'm not your fiancé.

Also, maybe I'm practicing self-care, Pam.

Wow.

I see what side you're on.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Here we go.

Well, let's talk about how Dwight is doing with the kids.

Okay, let's.

Abby is hanging out with Jim and Jim's doing that thing where, you know, she's shaking his hand.

He's like, oh, man, you're crushing me.

Oh, wait.

I watched this with Isabel.

Okay.

And so when Dwight's like, you're not even, she's not that tough.

I'll show you.

He's, she's like, what is wrong with Dwight, mom?

He's so literal.

He is.

He's, he is childlike himself.

It's true.

It's true.

And then after that, Meredith's son comes over to Dwight's desk and starts touching all his bobbleheads.

Hold up.

Where's the Dwight bobblehead?

Well, Melinda Magerkuth would like to know that as well.

Seven minutes, one second.

Where is Angela's gift to Dwight?

Thank you, Melinda.

I am hoping, Melinda, that Dwight saw all those children there and feared for its safety and with loving care locked it in his drawer.

He has one drawer that locks.

It's on the left side of his desk.

And I hope it's locked there for safety.

You know what?

Let's say that that's where it is.

During this scene,

Meredith's son refers to Meredith as Meredith.

And Dwight is Mr.

Poop.

Yeah.

He's being a jerk.

He's being a jerk.

And Jim and Abby laugh.

Oh, they think it's so funny.

They're like, now they're like totally in cahoots.

I loved when Sasha goes up to Phyllis and says, are you Mother Goose?

Yes.

We were all so tickled by that when we read it at the table read.

I remember.

I laughed so hard at that observation.

If anyone should ever be cast as Mother Goose, it is Phyllis.

And Phyllis's reaction, though, is so brilliant.

And so Isabel and I were watching it together.

So we went and we wanted to see what a picture of Mother Goose looked like.

Does it look like Phyllis?

It looks like Phyllis.

100%.

100%.

You're showing me a drawing of Mother Goose, and it looks like Phyllis.

And she's even like wearing purple.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I don't know.

Phyllis was wearing purple in the scene, this whole episode.

And I wondered if they sort of looked at Phyllis.

She was always in purple.

She was in purple a lot.

If you went to Phyllis's house and looked in her closet, it would just be purple outfits.

And lots of like beaded jewelry.

Yes.

She always had a lot of

beaded necklace.

Okay.

It's so true.

And

I just realized.

What?

You kind of took your daughter to work.

I did.

Oh, because she watched the office.

Oh, she watched it with you.

Yes, I guess I did.

You took your daughter to work for Take Your Daughter to Work Day.

For office ladies.

Yeah.

I did.

That's kind of sweet.

That's so funny.

All right.

Seven minutes, 53 seconds.

We're back in the kitchen and Melissa and Ryan are talking.

And Melissa's like, so I thought it was really funny.

And sort of the way they wrote her eighth grade brain to try to impress Ryan is that she just drinks coffee all day.

Yeah.

The ice, matcha ladder, whatever it's all day.

Yeah, she can't get enough of them.

Yeah.

Ryan, you're such a dork.

You haven't been to jitters?

Oh my God.

Give me your phone number.

He's like, uh.

Yeah.

Speaking of jitters at Steamtown Mall.

So Steamtown Mall is is a real place.

Yeah, we've been there.

The center of the city of Scranton.

Yeah.

I could not find a jitters today or in the past.

I spent a good 40 minutes looking for it.

Well, that's 40 minutes of your life.

You're never getting back.

I'm never getting back.

But guys, if there is or ever was a jitters, will you let me know?

Because.

Jenna needs that 40 minutes back.

I just need to

validate her.

Yeah.

Validate that 40 minutes.

Well, during this whole conversation about jitters in the kitchen, Kelly.

Kelly is vicious.

Kelly is the type of gal that if you step on her like territory, like her man space in any way, she's going to burn you to the ground.

And she does.

She decimates Ryan.

She goes and tattles immediately to Stanley.

She points, she was like, Ryan has something fishy going on.

I don't know.

They're tattling.

I'm watching them all day.

Yeah.

And Stanley is pissed.

Okay, this leads us to the scene

we got more mail than any other scene in this episode.

Okay.

The scene when Stanley confronts Ryan in the break room.

This was called out as many people's favorite.

Fan question from Chris Johnson.

How many takes did it take to get the Stanley Ryan scene?

I tried to text Leslie.

We need to get Leslie in here.

We do.

I tried to reach out to him.

Hopefully we'll get him.

He's traveling right now.

He's traveling.

Okay.

So

I know from the bloopers, because there are great bloopers on YouTube of this,

that he completely made BJ lose it.

Oh, yeah.

Season two bloopers at the three-minute mark.

I watched it as well.

Okay.

Stanley is letting Ryan have it.

Leslie improvised a ton.

That whole thing was like, Jesus isn't going to help you.

None of them are going to help you.

He was fantastic in that scene.

And now we're going back to the conference room and Dwight is playing the recorder for the kids.

And he's got this on the table.

He's got corn husk and plates and cups of ribbons and things.

Yeah.

There's going to be some kind of crafting project.

Yeah.

I had a fan question from Laura.

Okay.

Rain's recorder playing is top-notch.

Did he really play the recorder or was it added in later?

No, he really played that.

Yeah.

He played the bassoon in high school.

Yeah.

He plays the recorder again in the bird funeral.

Yes.

When Pam sings along.

So Rain is recorder proficient.

He is a recorder player.

Yeah.

He is.

Now he's also reading a book.

Wait, wait, before we get to that,

hold up.

This is big.

This is one of my biggest cards of this episode.

I might not be saying much.

This is a big card for me.

He finishes playing the song and he goes, that was Green Sleeves.

It's an English ballad written about the beheading of Anne Boleyn.

Okay, so you know I did a term paper on Anne Boleyn.

Love college.

I love Anne Boleyn.

No, in high school.

Oh.

Yes, in high school, senior term paper.

But I looked up Green Sleeves.

Okay.

This was fascinating to me.

Sorry, about to geek out on you guys a little bit.

There is a persistent belief that Green Sleeves was composed by Henry VIII for his lover Anne Boleyn.

Here's what really threw me for a loop.

Ready?

Yeah.

There's this other interpretation of the lyrics.

Ready?

Yeah.

Lady Greensleeves was a promiscuous young woman, even perhaps a prostitute.

Okay.

At the time, the word green had sexual connotations, most notably in the phrase a green gown, a reference to the grass stains on a woman's dress from engaging in sexual intercourse

in a field somewhere.

Green is kind of whorish.

Green is kind of whorish.

This justifies that whole line for Angela Martin.

I freaked out.

I was in my that's what she said, and I'm like, green is whorish.

I'm sure my neighbors were like, what is happening?

Lady, green was like a dirty color.

Great find, Angela.

Thank you.

That is some deep diving historian type work on the internet to prove a reference line from the office.

Well done.

Thank you.

I give you this.

Thank you.

I want to give you that.

I take that.

I take that.

All right.

So also in this scene,

he is reading a book called Struwell Peter.

We had a fan question from Tyler O'Donnell.

Was the story that Dwight reads the kids a real folk or was it something the writers made up?

Gang, it's real.

It's real.

Loosely translated, it means Shaggy Peter.

It was a German.

What?

That's dirty.

Don't wave your Shaggy Peter at me.

It sounds inappropriate.

It does.

Okay, so it's a story about Shaggy Peter.

I went out last night, and this guy had such a shaggy Peter.

Jenna.

We're going to get the E.

All right.

Okay.

It is a German book called Cautionary Tales for Children.

All right.

Okay.

Written by Heinrich Hoffmann in 1845.

Now, I found this fascinating.

Heinrich Hoffmann wanted to get a Christmas present for his three-year-old son.

Okay.

And he could not find a good children's book.

I'm sorry, Heinrich.

So he wrote his own.

He wrote it himself.

About Shaggy Peter.

Yes, he wrote Struelpeter.

Peter.

And it was so sort of popular, I guess, among people that Heinrich knew that it was eventually published.

Let's cut off their thumbs.

Yeah, exactly.

In the story.

Here's a super crazy fact.

What?

In 1891, Mark Twain...

wrote a translation of this book that he called Slovenly Peter.

Slovenly Peter.

Yes, which was published, but not until 1935, 25 years after Mark Twain died.

Mm-hmm.

And you and I are going to write our version called Shaggy Pete.

There are 10 stories in this book.

So in addition to the thumb-sucking story that Dwight reads the kids, which is true and in the book, there is also a story about a little girl who plays with matches.

accidentally lights herself on fire and dies.

Then there's the story of a boy who doesn't want to eat his soup for dinner.

He holds out for five days and then starves to death.

And dies.

Do all the kids die or get maimed?

No, not all of them.

Some of them live through their rebellions.

But are forever like sort of maimed or

sort of just, you know.

Not the same emotionally.

Kind of.

Yeah.

Well, that's fun.

Yeah.

So that's,

that's the book.

It's real.

Well, we really get a window into Dwight and Angela's childhoods in this episode.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, Dwight grew up reading these stories with his grandma.

Yes.

And then Angela is like, listen, my father was a strict disciplinarian, so you better whip these kids into shape.

That's right.

They are a perfect match.

I say it over and over.

They really are.

They really are.

At nine minutes, 47 seconds, we do pan to the table where Dwight has laid out supplies to make Cornhusk dolls.

No one ever makes them, but there is supplies are there.

we had a fan question from lauren page who actually made the corn husk dolls that dwight plans to make with the kids was it phil shea i would say phil shea it was lauren yeah phil shea was responsible for all of those items on the table phil shea is a jack of many trades like he really had to do a lot he does yeah i just love it that now our questions come in with like specifics.

They know, yeah.

Am I spotting a Phil Shea moment?

Yes, Lauren, you're spotting a Phil Shea moment.

I think we should take a little break.

Okay.

Because Michael is about to give the kids a tour of the office, and I think that deserves its own space.

All right.

It's really sweet.

It's sweet.

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We got some food.

There's a bagel bar.

Angela's eating an everything bagel.

With as much butter as I can put on it.

Don't judge me.

What?

Don't judge me.

Okay.

We won't judge you because we can't understand you.

I love butter.

Okay.

Angela, before we get started, I want to take a moment because I feel like there's something I have to say to you.

Is this like a, do I need a glass of wine moment?

Like, is it that big of a moment?

Or am I okay with my bagel and butter?

You're fine with your bagel and butter.

Okay.

I feel like it's something that I need to say.

I'm saying it reluctantly, yet with enthusiasm.

Is it about my hair today?

Nope.

Okay.

It's not about your hair.

All right.

I'm going to say it.

I'm going to say it.

But once I say it, it's been said.

I

love

Game of Thrones.

Yes.

Yes.

I told you you would.

I told you you would.

Where are you?

What's happened?

End of season one.

Spoilers.

Spoilers.

End of season one.

Oh, Khaleesi.

Out of the fire.

I mean,

Angela.

With her dragons.

When Khaleesi rises out of the fire,

I am Khaleesi, first of my name, mother of dragons.

She's got three baby dragons on her.

Yeah.

I was like,

I was, I was like, oh my God,

I am Khaleesi with three baby dragons.

And my dragons are just going to get bigger.

I was like, I'm a woman coming into her own.

I'm with you, Khaleesi.

Everyone out there who was really, I got a lot of mail and support from people out there who were like, Jenna, you do not need to watch Game of Thrones.

You do not need to, we, like, we were in it together.

I feel like I'm letting some folks down.

You told me it was a soap opera, a fantasy soap opera.

Well, it is a fantasy soap opera.

I do stand by

that.

Well, you know what?

I'm just going to say that I was wrong about it,

but I do, I'm going to stand by the Star Wars.

Okay.

Okay.

You know what?

I'll take it.

I'll take it.

I got one.

I got one.

I got G-O-T with you.

Yeah.

I'm good.

I'm in it.

I'm in it to win it on G-O-T.

Okay.

Michael takes the kids over to Creed.

Okay.

And he says, this is Creed.

He's in charge of

something.

Right.

And Creed says, that is correct.

Because Creed doesn't know.

I love that delivery.

Creed doesn't know what he's in charge of.

Creed doesn't know either.

No one knows.

And then, and then, of course, Creed is like the showstopper crowd pleaser when he's like, want to see a foot with four toes.

Yeah.

And they're so excited.

And Creed is giddy.

Creed can't wait to show him.

Finally, someone wants to see his four toes.

I know.

But he says, don't worry, like the hair covers up most of it.

Oh, what is he?

His hobbit feet?

I guess so.

Hobbit, Jenna, Lord of the Rings.

I'm sorry.

I'm not going to go there.

I know.

I'm not going to show you.

I mean, I might watch a Star Wars one day, but you are not getting me into the Lord of the Rings.

That is where I draw the line.

Fine.

All right.

So we go into the conference room and all the kids are in there and they're eating candy.

And this is when Michael tells them that he used to be the star.

I know.

He calls himself the star of a TV show called Thundle Bundle.

Here's my question for you.

Because as I watched this, I kept thinking about this.

Is just Michael's memory of this just through rose-colored glasses, he doesn't really remember what it was like.

He's recreated, sort of, he's rewritten history, if you will, right?

Yeah.

That he was the star and it was a great thing.

Yes.

I mean, I think that's pretty common.

I'm thinking of the time, for example, that I got to be on the radio reading a poem about the St.

Louis Cardinals during the World Series.

How old were you?

Oh, I was probably.

Last year?

No, I was like 10.

I was 10.

Yeah, because it was the 84 World Series, I believe.

So I was 10.

Okay.

And my memory of it is that I was a radio star.

But I'm sure if I heard the audio, it's me like,

roses are red, violets are blue.

I love the cardinals and so do you.

Right.

Like I was probably not the

poetry reader you are now.

Yes.

And he knows what this poem really was.

But in my mind,

it was such a fabulous poem.

It got live on the radio and we all listened, you know?

So I think that's what's happened in Michael's brain.

He has this childlike nostalgia of what that was.

And Fundle Bundle, if it was anything like the land of Hatchy Malatchie, was a big deal in Scranton.

Yeah.

And so, and Michael was on it.

This is a little bit of a claim to fame.

Right.

So he decides, we're going to watch it.

He tells Ryan, go get the tape.

Go get the tape from my mom's house.

And then he goes into this very elaborate exposure.

Go to nation.

To Dixon City, which I looked up.

It's about a 14-minute drive.

Go to Dixon City.

Mom might be by the pool.

She might be at the pool.

At the pool.

And so you're going to have to go through the window, boost yourself up.

Yes.

And go to the basement.

Play this clip.

It's at 12 minutes.

I just love Steve delivers it very, very quickly.

He just rattles it off as if everything he's saying is totally normal.

And also, this is something he's done countless times.

Yeah, it's so easy to do.

This is how you get in my mom's house.

She's going to be at the pool.

Yeah.

So you just, you put yourself, the window will be open, though.

Yeah.

Here it is.

I would like you to go to my mother's house in Dixon City.

And if she is at the pool, the back kitchen window should be unlocked.

I want you to boost yourself up.

I want you to go down to the basement.

In the basement is a tape labeled Fundle Bundle.

I want you to grab it.

I want you to get my guitar.

Right.

Okay.

I want you to get a tambourine.

Do you know how to play the tambourine?

I'm already getting the pizzas from Brunetti's.

So.

You know, I can go with him.

No, I will go.

Okay.

I love that.

I love it.

Oh, get my guitar, which is in his mother's basement.

Yeah.

And then, then, can you play the tambourine?

It's, it's, he's, it's all about to happen.

It's all about to happen.

So

at 12 minutes, 17 seconds, Ryan says he can't go because I'm already getting pizza from Brunetti's.

Brunetti's is a real pizza place in Scranton.

No jitters, but there is a Brunetti's.

There is a Brunetti's, but guys, guess what?

What?

I went to the Facebook page for Brunetti's.

You did?

Their pizza is a rectangle.

What?

Rectangle pizza.

Brunetti's scandalous.

Not circular pizza.

Like baronis here.

Baronis in Los Angeles.

Steve's favorite pizza.

Where we would get pizza sometimes on set.

For the cast and crew.

Square.

Rectangle.

Oh, rectangle.

Yeah.

It's made on like a cookie sheet.

Well, in our episode, we have circular pizzas.

To be fair, I did see they tend to sometimes serve circular ones.

Well, you heard it here, you guys.

You heard it here.

Sorry for the circular pizza when it wasn't Brunetti's rectangle pizza.

All right, guys.

Everybody is in the conference room now at 12 minutes, 29 seconds.

They're eating the circular pizza that should be a rectangle.

Fan catch from Mrs.

Cray.

What, Mrs.

Cray?

What is the funny dance move that John Krasinski is doing in the background?

I don't know.

They're just goofing around with the picture.

It's just John being John.

Yeah, he's just.

That's John.

Yeah.

If you want to know what John is like, check out 12 Minutes 29 Seconds.

Yeah, he's just having fun.

He is.

Are we ready to play this tape from Fundle Bundle?

12 Minutes 51 Seconds.

The Fundle Bundle tape has arrived.

We had a lot of fan questions.

about the Fundle Bundle video and how it was made.

So I reached out to Kent Zabornak, our line producer.

So he told me that our set designers built the set and that our wardrobe designer, Carrie Bennett, found all of these vintage 1960s outfits for the kids.

She was great at that.

So good.

And probably so excited because all we wore were gray turtlenecks and like beige tops.

And so she was probably so thrilled to have a project.

Here's an interesting bit of trivia about Carrie Bennett.

So before our show, Carrie worked on scrubs.

And she designed some kind of like...

I guess quote-unquote designer scrubs.

Well, she could sew.

And so she designed her own line of scrubs.

That were less boxy, that were more flattering and fitted for both men and women right different colors and patterns they were so popular that she actually started a line of scrubs yeah yeah go carry so there you go so when they shot this footage they used a cheap video camera instead of one of our regular cameras and then in post-production he told me they threw in some additional artifacts.

I guess artifacts is a term for lessening the quality of the film image.

And so that's how it got that degraded.

Grainy look.

Yes.

Yeah.

We had another fan question from Karen Fryer.

She said, who was the voice of Edward R.

Meow, the puppet that all the kids are talking to in Fundle Bundle?

The voice is Kevin Carlson.

He is a puppeteer and voice actor, but here's something very sweet.

Right.

I did not know this.

Kent Sabornak, our line line producer, used to be a puppeteer.

Stop it.

Yeah, he worked with Jim Henson.

Kent?

Kent Zabornak worked with Jim Henson and Sid and Mary Croft.

And he wanted to be Edward R.

Meow.

And they didn't let him?

No, he couldn't do it in the end.

He didn't have the time.

He couldn't leave his job of line producing.

to be Edward R.

Meow.

So he asked his friend, another professional puppeteer, Kevin Carlson, if he would do it.

This is that that classic thing that I love: where you look at someone, you think you know them.

You're like, I know you.

You're very efficient.

Kent's kind of like this high-strung, but like nice and kind, but he's getting stuff done.

He's got Excel spreadsheets.

Yeah.

And I'm like, Kent, I know who you are.

And then you're a freaking puppeteer.

Puppeteer.

What?

Yeah, I did not know.

That blew me away when he told me that.

I love that.

Yeah, I love it.

But here's something.

What?

The little blonde kid that gets interviewed by Edward R.

Meow.

The first kid?

The first kid.

Yeah.

That's Kent Sabornak's son.

Aww.

Alec.

That's so cute.

He had to audition for the role, and he got it.

He got it.

Yeah.

He had to audition.

Isn't that cute?

That is so cute.

Should we talk about Chet Montgomery?

We should.

Chet, he's like a local like celebrity.

Yeah.

So my hometown is pretty small, you know, in North Texas.

And the evening news there is, Good evening, Texoma, because we're right by the Texas-Oklahoma border.

Okay.

And the folks that do the news there, the local anchors, I have been in Wichita Falls with like my grandmother or mom.

We're like at the mall or going to Luby's.

They love Luby's.

What's Luby's?

Lubies is like.

Do they sell earrings?

No, it's like it's my grandparents love to go there for lunch.

You get a tray.

Oh, it's an eatery.

You eat there.

You get a tray and you go all the way down.

It's like a buffet.

Like a cafeteria style buffet thing?

Yes.

I'd love that place.

Oh, yeah.

Like a soup plantation?

Kind of, yeah.

Lubies.

It was called Luby's.

it's in the mall but i remember going there with my grandparents and we saw the local news guy and they were like there he is oh my god that's the he does the evening news oh my god they were so excited this kid who's being interviewed he's chet Montgomery we find out he's the weather guy yeah right he's played by Damoni Roberts Here is a crazy thing about Damani Roberts what remember earlier in the talking head when Michael says I'm Eddie Murphy and Raw but they're going to make me be Eddie Murphy in Daddy Daycare?

Is Damani in Daddy Daycare?

Yes, stop it.

Yes.

That's amazing.

Damani Roberts is also in Daddy Daycare.

Fan question from Grace Marvel5005 and Chris Wolpert.

Who played Michael as a kid?

This was an actor named Jake Callender.

Jake Callender.

Jake Callender.

He sounds like Chuck Montgomery.

He does.

Jake Callender with evening news and Texoma.

So when young Michael is interviewed.

didn't you think young michael looked like young sheldon a little bit oh yeah i can give you that right yeah yeah looks a little bit a little bit

okay so he's interviewed he's interviewed and he's asked what he wants to be when he grows up we should also remind you guys he's in a full suit and tie yeah he's a little kid yeah

and he says i want to be married and have 100 kids so I can have 100 friends and no one can say no to being my friend.

Is this when you cried?

This is when I had to turn off the episode.

It hit me

so hard.

I don't know why.

This idea of just this little kid longing for friends

and

longing for acceptance, but we're getting a real window into his life.

Listen.

It was just, it was almost too much for me.

It was almost too much for me, this sentence about michael's past

it was just and and i think because

then you go to steve's reaction and steve's acting is so good in that moment

it just it just like i don't know i mean

i remember at the time when we shot that that After the little Michael says that, it cuts to a shot of the puppet

and the puppet can't speak.

And we lost it.

The puppet is like agape, right?

His mouth is open.

Do you know that the puppet, they linger on the puppet with its mouth open in silence?

Like, what the heck?

Right?

Yeah.

They linger on that puppet for six seconds of silence.

Oh.

I mean, seeing a puppet with its mouth agape being like, what the F just

going on?

It is funny.

It is.

It is funny.

And when we were shooting shooting this, six seconds.

We were dying.

We were dying at the shot of the puppet.

And so when I was getting ready, I think, to sit down and watch this scene, all I could remember was how we were crying, laughing at this reaction shot of the puppet.

But then

I just saw this whole other side of how not funny that was.

Well, we were looking at how sad at that point.

We weren't looking at Steve at that moment.

Yeah.

So

we missed that moment for Michael.

We needed to watch it as an episode.

Yes.

As an audience, yeah.

Yeah.

I just was,

anyway.

Well,

the kids start peppering Michael with questions, right?

Yeah.

They're saying, well, did you get married?

Do you have kids?

Do you have a girlfriend?

And then the little girl says, I guess you didn't get to be what you wanted to be.

And it is soul-crushing.

And I was watching this with Isabel, who's 11.

And she turned to me and she goes, Mom,

were there just times when you were doing this show that you were like, I am so uncomfortable?

She was like, this is really uncomfortable.

And she thought it was funny, you know, but she was like, that is awkward.

And I was like, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

There are a lot of cringy moments on this show, which make it all work and balance.

But just the fact that she picked up on that at her age of like, what an awkward moment this was.

Oh, man.

Well, Michael is so gutted.

He just he locks himself in his office.

Yeah.

He won't come out.

And the reaction shots of all of us are great.

We're all really sad for him.

Sad,

a little embarrassed.

Yeah.

All of it.

So

Pam's talking to Jim.

We got a lot of mail about this little scene.

Pam's talking to Jim.

She's saying Michael won't come out of his office.

He won't answer his phone.

Over her shoulder, Roy is wrestling with Meredith's son.

He's so happy.

Roy and the dirt kid are having the best time.

We had a lot of questions about what this scene was supposed to mean because Pam seems a little bit embarrassed or ashamed that Roy and this kid are getting along.

They're like, what did this mean?

Well,

I think.

I don't know.

What was your interpretation?

Here is my take on it.

Okay.

Because you have Roy, this big guy, right?

And he's kind of fratty.

He's kind of like a frat guy.

And he is with the kid that's the asshole.

Right.

And they're having the time of their lives.

They're in there.

There's other people around them.

They're not even caring about other people's personal space.

They're wrestling in this room.

And Roy's like, got him in a headlock.

And he's like, I love this kid.

And I think Pam had a flash of what her life would be like.

With Roy with children, what their kids would be like.

Yeah.

She was going to have a kid that's like, mom, pull my finger.

fart, dad, laugh.

Yeah.

And Pamela's like, oh, God.

Well, oh, no, I'm going to be outnumbered in my own house by like the Roy kids.

Yeah.

I think it's definitely there to show a contrast to the way Jim bonds with a kid over books and reading as opposed to just rough housing.

Yeah.

But I have to say, when I saw that, I thought, yes, that's what this kid needs, actually.

He needs a father figure in his life.

He needs someone to wrestle with him because that is an important part of parenting.

I didn't think that that was

so bad of a thing.

No, I think it's perfect for Roy.

The problem is that's not what Pam wants in a dad.

Pam wants more of a gym dad that is going to do a silly dance.

and talk about books and probably wrestle a little bit too.

But I think Roy is just a little brutish.

It's absolutely what Meredith's son needs.

I mean, he needs a big guy to like grab grab him and be like, hey,

you know, pay attention.

But I just think it's just that moment that shows that Jim and Pam are just, you know, you meet people, we all like dated people, and there's some people you know instinctively that you're going to parent the same with.

Yeah.

And I think Pam and Jim are going to parent the same.

Yes.

Yeah.

I think that's good.

That's good.

That's good analysis.

I like that.

Well, Next up, we go to the copier with Dwight and we're going to see how Dwight might parent Jake.

Well, again, Dwight and Angela, Angela has told him he needs to be tougher with the kids.

Basically, that's her subtext because that's what she would expect.

Right.

That's what she had growing up and she expects him to be that way.

Yeah.

And she's egging him on.

She is glaring at him like, shut that kid up.

Jake tells Dwight that he's ugly.

Yeah.

And then Dwight

is horrible.

I see.

At my potting.

At my potting, he's horrible.

Get my mini soapbox out again because I did not care for this.

No, it wasn't good.

It bumped me.

I didn't like that Dwight told a child, like that Dwight insulted a child the way he did.

I didn't, I think we're meant as an audience to be like, yeah, you give it to the jerk kid.

But I just, that, ugh, I didn't like it.

I don't think we're meant to do that.

I don't think.

I don't think so.

I think like.

There's part of you that's like glad that this kid is like at least put in his place a little bit, although done completely inappropriately.

But I think what I took away from it is like, Dwight, Dwight is a kid.

You have two, these are two kids in one conversation.

I mean, Isabel watched it with me and she was like, oh, mom, Dwight.

And I said, I know, he's just a kid.

Well, it all just made me super sad for Jake.

Oh, well, Jake, Jake is doomed.

That's what I felt like.

He's Meredith's kid and he's doomed.

At 15 minutes, 39 seconds, Pam strikes out again.

Oh, boy.

Yeah, Melissa comes over.

She's like, you know, I've spent some time with your mom.

She's so nice.

And Melissa's like,

that lady is not my mother.

Like, you mean Terry?

That's my stepmom.

Yeah.

So now she's like, oh, for two, right?

Oh, yeah.

Pam's not doing great until Jake comes over.

Jake's probably a little wounded by this time.

I think he's a little softer around the edges now.

Maybe so.

And she's like, do you want to shred some stuff?

Your shredder.

My shredder, 17 minutes, 50 seconds, everyone.

Your shredder that you said we never use.

And people were like, oh, I'm getting to my keyboard.

Yes.

Boy, we got a lot of mail after I said that early on.

Yes, Pam does use her shredder.

With Jake.

By the way, I want to say that original shredder did not work.

It was inoperable.

And I can't remember now if they had to bring in some other shredder.

I think there's a reason why there's not a great shot of it is because it doesn't technically match the giant shredder that's always been there.

I will say

also in our early years on set, I know we were on a tight budget, right?

We were the show that was almost going to get canceled.

We were like, it was sort of shoestring budget.

And a lot of our appliances in the office, if you look really closely.

are old used appliances yeah that they would take from like a prop warehouse or other shows oh the copier didn't work at first and then they wrote that someone uses the copier and they're like whoa hold up that doesn't need a a

copier.

We were just, I mean, that was just decoration.

Just a prop.

We're planning on using that.

And that shredder looked like something from the Dharma Initiative.

It looked really old.

Well, you remember that copier used to often not work right.

Do you remember that?

We were always fixing that copier.

All the time.

But then when I worked in offices, we were always fixing our copiers.

So maybe it worked just as it was meant to work.

I don't know.

Or as good as any copier I've ever used.

All right.

All right.

So now

Toby goes into Michael's office and he's returning the toys that Sasha took.

And Toby asks Michael if he's okay.

And Michael says, well, you have to ask me that because you're head of HR.

And Toby's like, well, it's true.

It's true.

But how are you?

And then they end up having a heart to heart.

A sweet heart to heart.

Michael and Toby.

I know.

But of course, then Michael asks if Sasha has a godfather.

And Toby's like, she does.

Toby actually cuts him off.

Yeah.

So he's like, hey, does Sasha have a godfather?

Because he does.

He does.

He does.

She does.

She does.

Right.

Yeah.

But Michael decides he's gotten

feeling a little better.

He's going to sign up for an online dating service.

He's going to get out there.

He is.

He's going to try to make little Michael Scott's dream come true.

Let's get married and have his 100 kids.

And he wants the ladies out there to know how serious he is about having a family and his love of children.

So he makes his username

Little Kid Lover.

Yeah, he's going to do it.

Oh, boy.

All right.

So now, huge bombshell.

Abby is leaving with Kevin, and she wants to invite Jim over for dinner.

Very sweet.

He can't.

He has plans.

He has plans.

What plans?

Kevin says.

You never have plans.

Guess what, guys?

Jim has a date.

Jim has a date.

With who?

Is this maybe Brenda?

Is Brenda back?

Fan question.

Laura Dini would like to know.

Who is Jim going on a date with?

Don't know.

Brenda?

Is he lying?

No, he has a date.

No, he has a date.

I think he does.

No, he for sure has a date.

Yeah.

So then we get to the last scene of the episode.

This is the second time I cried in this episode.

When they were singing?

Yeah.

Twite is playing a guitar.

First one.

Why did you cry in this one?

I don't know.

This song really gets to me.

Teach your children.

Michael is singing.

Crosby still's a Nash.

Yeah.

I love, I guess.

I love how

I love how Steve does this.

He went for it.

He went for it.

His very weird, hard

falsetto.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And during this scene, Jim and Pam have a little banter.

A little banter.

This was a real kick in the nuts for Pam.

This was a tough one.

Jim says, why does he have a guitar if he never plays it?

They're doing their thing where they kind of flirt and shitty chat in the corner.

Exactly.

They're commenting on what's happening.

But then they kind of giggle.

Then Pam looks away and she turns back and she's like, well, my theory is he's gone.

Jim's gone.

Oh,

yeah.

And then your little adjustment after you realize.

You were talking to no one and he's gone is so great because you kind of feel her like, oh, okay.

Jeez.

So at 19 minutes one second

we sort of start this montage right jim is leaving yeah and you see this really sweet thing with michael and sasha like he's kind of helping i think get her in toby's car and then you end with this dwight talking head yeah

it's so good what okay i have a question yeah where's that photo from i found out Good.

I was hoping you would.

Yeah.

So during this talking head, Dwight is kind of explaining the value of children

in the shroot ancestry.

And there is this photo, this black and white photo of a family, a seemingly kind of impoverished family.

Impoverished family.

Well, Dwight says that they would have a lot of children so they could work the fields, which, you know, is not a real stretch because my mom grew up in rural Texas on a farm.

Uh-huh.

And she had their 12 siblings.

Yeah.

They all worked the farm.

I think that was a thing.

Yeah.

That was a thing.

Yeah.

Life Life on the prairie.

Little house on the prairie.

We learned that from Little House on the prairie.

Not really, but

that family had a lot of kids and they all worked that field and farm.

They had like four.

I think they had more than that.

Five?

I feel like it was upwards of seven.

What?

Mara, Mara.

Mary.

Half pint.

Yeah.

The baby, who I think died on Christmas Eve of fever.

There were some boys.

One boy.

Maybe there were only four or five.

I don't know.

They all worked the farm though.

Anyway, Dwight also says that they sometimes ate the weakest person in times of real hardship.

And then he's like, but not a kid.

We didn't eat the babies.

But the way he says it means like maybe sometimes they don't.

No, he said, I'm kidding.

We never ate the children.

It never came to that.

Right.

But if it did, they were, yeah.

All right.

Well, at 20 minutes, 17 seconds, there is a shot of this photo.

And in the Booze Cruise podcast, we mentioned that Rain did bring in a number of photos of his real family.

Is this one?

No.

Oh.

It's not.

There was a real photo of his family in the vending machine in the cold open of Booz Cruise, but this was not.

Rain's real family.

Kent told me that they just found it on Getty Images.

It's a stock photo.

They just licensed it and it became the lore of Dwight's family.

Right there.

Just a picture.

There you go.

It's somebody's family.

It's someone's family.

Maybe someone will write in and say, hey, those are my ancestors.

Those are my ancestors.

A Getty image photographer came to

a reunion in 1814.

Yeah.

Anyway.

All right.

Well, there you go.

That's our episode.

All right, you guys.

That's Take Your Daughter to Work Day.

If you have any questions, if we left anything out, write us in and we will see you next week.

We will, I think, for Michael's birthday.

Michael's birthday.

Yeah, the ice skating rink.

Oh, I have good photos from that one.

I have good stories.

Thank you for listening to Office Ladies' Second Drink.

This episode was initially created in collaboration with Earwolf.

Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

Our executive producer is Cassie Jorkins and our audio engineer and associate producer is Daniela Daniela Silva.

Odyssey's executive producers are Jenna Wise-Berman and Leah Reese Dennis.

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