An Interview with Timothy Olyphant

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We were on the office together and we're best friends.

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Hello there.

Hi.

We have a really,

really fun episode today.

I feel like we say that every week, but oh my gosh, if you don't leave with a smile on your face after you listen to this next video, what's wrong with you?

I don't either.

Also, we just love our job, so it is a fun thing.

It's fun to get to do this.

Really fun.

Mm-hmm.

I do.

I love my job.

I feel so fortunate that I love my job too, and oh, yeah.

My parents loved their jobs.

My mom was a teacher.

My dad was a plastics engineer.

They loved what they did for a living.

And they always told me, we just hope that you get to have a career that you also love.

Yeah.

And I do.

And they

supported me in my pursuit as an actress because they knew, well, that's the thing she loves.

That's what makes her heart happy.

Yeah.

My sister's a teacher.

It makes her heart happy.

Yeah.

It's a beautiful thing when that can happen.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, listen, you all know that there are still so many people who were on the office that we have not talked to, that we have wanted to have on the podcast.

And today we get to cross one of those names off our list.

Yep.

Today on Office Ladies 6.0.

Timothy Oliphant is in the studio with us.

You might know Timothy from his many movies and television roles, including the hugely hugely successful shows Deadwood and Justified.

Of course, you know, I loved him in The Mandalorian.

And you know what?

I did not bring it up on purpose because I didn't want to be a total nerd in front of him.

I know.

I was already a geek.

But I loved him in Mandalorian.

And you know, on the office, he played Danny Cordre, the top salesman in the Scranton-Wilkes-Bury area.

He was the salesman that Michael Scott eventually hires to work at Dunder Mifflin.

Yes, the character of Danny Cordre was in two episodes that aired in the original broadcast, The Sting and Costume Contest.

And Angela, you bring up in our interview that he was also in a deleted scene for Michael's last Dundees.

Yep.

Now, I love the setup to his character.

In The Sting, Jim and Dwight are on a sales call to their client meeting at Frames Select, and they see rival salesperson Danny Cordre sitting in the lobby.

I thought we should hear it.

Dwight.

Crap.

Danny Cordre is the worst.

Well, by worst, you mean the best.

The best salesman ever.

He works for Osprey Paper over in Throop, steals more clients from Dunder Mifflin than anyone.

So the situation is the worst.

Also, he slept with Pam.

No, he didn't.

Tell him.

Nothing happened.

We went on a couple of dates.

He never called me again.

What?

He never called you?

I thought you said it just fizzled.

That's That's fizzling.

I mean, someone has to start the fizzle.

Yeah, I thought you started it.

No, I liked him.

For a couple of days, four years ago.

You know, I have a kid with you, right?

I just love this.

There's so much information and history packed into these little couple of scenes.

I know.

This was a really fun Jim and Pam runner.

We talked more about it, but it was so fun how it kept popping up.

Well, I just love that.

And Jenna, in re-watching this episode, it was so funny to me how all the Dundromifflin employees react to meeting Danny.

So we just heard Jim and Dwight, but I also thought you should hear when Michael First Sees Him and then the whole bullpen.

Sam, help me put these clips together.

Let's hear it.

Oh, no, that's a male model.

Oh, my God.

Jansport backpacks.

10 or 15 years ago, you were a model for Janport backpacks, were you not?

Yes.

Yeah, but what's going on here?

I knew it.

I remember the one you were like, hey

to mr danny cordre he is going to be joining us as our new traveling salesman say hello to danny

me okay you know what no

just that was a bleep that was probably standards and practices because kelly says you know the f word she does

And listen, we've shared this before, but the character name Danny Cordre was inspired by our very own Randy Cordray.

And I just love that his name made it on the show.

I know.

Well, we always love hearing from you all.

And several of you wrote in some great observations and comments about the character Danny Cordray, and we wanted to share.

Yes, starting with Ashley S.

from Kaysville, Utah, who wrote in to say, I find it funny that Michael has a talking head referencing the killer in Scream 2.

One of the murderers is Timothy Oliphant.

That murderer is now in the office.

Ashley, this cracked me up.

You know I'm a horror movie fan.

You know I know Scream 2.

I held myself back from asking Timothy about Scream 2 in our interview because I didn't want to geek out too much.

Let's hear this clip of Michael talking about Scream 2.

I tried.

I tried.

I tried to talk to Toby and be his friend, but that is like trying to be friends with an evil snail.

I feel like I'm dying inside.

I feel like Nev Campbell in Scream 2.

She thinks she can go off to college and be happy, and then the murderer comes back, starts killing off all of her friends.

Learned a lot of lessons from that movie.

This is just one of them.

There's more.

There's more lessons.

Scream 2.

Well,

Scream 2 was early in Timothy's career.

I mean, he is playing a college student.

He is so good in it.

He is such a great villain.

Like, he always often is playing kind of like the nicer guys.

The hero guy.

But always with a little darkness.

It's interesting.

We talked to him about it.

Good catch, Ashley.

I loved it.

Well, we also got this fun catch from Carly F.

in Prospect Heights, Illinois.

She said her and her husband were watching Justified, and they realized that Dave Kechner had a few episodes.

She said they loved that Timothy and Dave Kechner had a few episodes together, even though they didn't have any together on the office, but they were both traveling salesmen.

They also found it ironic that their joint episodes in Justified both take place in Florida, which is where Todd Packer ends up at the end of the office.

Oh my gosh!

This is like a monk crossover, but it's a Justified the Office crossover.

I just started watching Justified.

It's really good.

It's so good.

I have not gotten to Dave Kechner yet.

I haven't either.

I just started watching it too.

Well, everyone, thank you so much for writing in.

We used a lot of your questions in our interview with Timothy as well.

And, you know, we're so excited to reunite with him.

And this really all came about, Jenna, because you ran into him last year.

Yes.

We were at a mutual friend's birthday party and I asked him if he would come on the podcast.

He was so lovely.

He said, of course.

We did this interview right before our holiday break, and it was just such a great way to end the year.

It really was.

He's so charming, and he hung out with us for over an hour.

We talked to him about his time on the office and so many other things.

So let's take a short break.

And when we come back, our interview with Timothy Oliphant.

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My goodness.

Timothy Oliphant.

Hey, how's it going?

Good.

Oh, my gosh.

How cool to see you sitting across from us.

And you got a scarf on.

Well, it's the season.

It is the season.

Yeah.

How you doing?

You're good.

How are the ladies?

The ladies are good.

How long have the ladies been in this building?

It didn't start here.

No.

No, no.

No.

I like that.

I'm going to try to get more

of those moments right there.

Answers.

We started at Earwolf, which was this great little space.

And then Sirius bought Earwolf, and then we ended up renting this little space, which was cute.

But like, we had a, we had like a shower curtain that like separated us from other, from Sam and Cassie in the booth.

It was sweet.

It was cute.

But now we're with the folks at Odyssey and we got real fancy building now.

And that's, this is their floor.

This is their building.

They're in

their nook.

This is their name.

This is their nook.

And they get, and this space is your space.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah, way to go.

Right.

I get you too.

Yeah.

It's pretty good.

Pretty good.

You're doing all right.

Yeah, it's very.

We have these do hickeys too.

Oh, no, the whole thing is.

It says office ladies on the microphone.

It's pretty swinky.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Who would have thunk?

I know, right?

Just two gals chatting about a show they were on.

Just chatting about.

Here in Hollywood, there's a walk of,

there's the stars.

Yeah, the walk of fate?

We don't have one.

Wait, do you have a star?

No, I don't have a star.

You don't have a star.

You know, every now and then you have these moments.

You're like, yeah, you're in showbiz.

That's right.

Hello, Razzle Dazzle.

I do feel a little show busy when I come here because I'm coming into the heart of Hollywood.

You know, when I first moved to LA, I lived in West Hollywood.

Yeah.

And I went by all this stuff all the time.

And I moved out.

I'm not in West Hollywood anymore.

You left.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

I'm jumping in.

Okay, jump in.

Ready?

All right.

Okay, here we go.

So listen, we usually start with the same question.

We usually ask people, How did you?

They offered it to me.

Your job in the office, you already know.

But I was going to say, listen, I'm like, you know, first time,

first time caller last, anyway, I'm like, yeah, I've listened.

I got it.

Yeah.

I got no story for you other than they offered it to me and I said, yes.

Wait, can we just go on record that Timothy listens to office ladies?

Yeah.

Thank you.

For sure.

Let's go.

Wow.

Yeah.

They offered.

You guys are huge.

They gave you the office because people are listening.

You know that, right?

I love it.

Well, I was actually going to start with another question, which was, how did you get your start in Showbiz?

Oh.

Like, when in your life did you realize that you wanted to be an actor?

I articulated it sometime in my early 20s.

Okay.

You said it out loud.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yes.

That's a big deal, though, because you know.

My wife, I remember,

I know I may not have articulated it.

I don't, well, let me say this.

I do remember articulating it to my wife.

We got married at 22.

I I just said turned 23.

And she, I do know that her response was, you've never mentioned this before.

So

that I want to,

so

first started kind of talking about it

like 22 around there.

Yeah.

What inspired that?

Had you been in a like a college production or what?

Nothing.

Nothing.

Now, when I was younger, I do remember thinking, oh, I'd love to do that.

I remember thinking

comedy, stand-up comedy.

I remember thinking that.

And my mom said, you don't want to do that.

Those people are all on drugs.

They're divorced and they're on drugs.

I don't know.

And then at a certain point, I was like, mom, you're divorced.

You know what I mean?

You're halfway there.

Might as well be in showbiz.

Right.

So,

yeah, never done it before.

I had never done it.

Wow.

And so.

Where do you go from there?

So I grew up in Modesto, by the way.

Grew up in Modesto.

We got a fan question about that.

We asked people to write in, and someone actually said, Megan G from Albany said, My husband and I lived in Modesto, California.

What does Timothy remember about growing up there?

Folks are really proud of him out there.

Oh, that's very kind.

Well, I mean,

I don't.

I mean, I still, my mom lives in Modesto.

I still go to Modesto.

I was in Modesto just

in October.

So, yeah.

My favorite bread maker is in Modesto,

Bonnie O'Hara.

She has a home bakery, fresh breads and cookies and stuff.

Wait.

That might be my, wait a minute.

Hold on.

What?

Wait, wait.

Well,

that can't be right.

Is her name Bonnie?

I'm forgetting a name, but the woman used to live across from my street from my mother

had made

in her garage.

She had a home bakery.

Yeah.

She made and she was doing really well.

Is that Bonnie?

Bonnie was your neighbor?

Bonnie O'Hara.

And do we need a moment to Google?

She wrote her.

No, I'm looking in my contacts.

No, I don't think it's her.

Okay.

Okay, she wrote a cookbook.

She's your favorite.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She bread making for beginners.

And I bought her cookbook.

I started making bread thanks to her, but she has got a whole business in her,

like in her little home kitchen, and she sells bread subscriptions.

No, for a second there.

For a second there.

I don't think.

Bonnie, if I do know you, I'm really sorry because it's it's been a minute.

Listen, if it's not Bonnie,

the takeaway is Modesto is the mecca for bread.

Mecca for bread.

Yeah.

Good bread there.

Awesome good bread.

Yeah.

I just finished a job in Finland and the AD made the best bread.

Homemade?

Homemade bread.

They're big on their bread there.

Very healthy, good breads in Finland.

I guess Europe just has grape bread in general.

People say like, oh, if you don't want gluten, don't worry about it so much there in Europe.

Anyway, I don't understand it.

and as a rap gift he gave me the recipe no

gave me a little notebook and a handwritten recipe tried to convert it from metric and

we haven't made it yet but that's the plan this holiday we're gonna make the bread auntie auntie's bread

i love that first aid d i'm a bread enthusiast okay jenna used to bring in like her yeast like in the bowl right is that what it's called yeah you gave it a name well i would bring in my joe Angela ask her.

Geese gets a name, right?

My starter, my source starter's name was Goldie.

Did you know?

What?

No.

How long have you two known each other?

Am I here to bring you together?

Bring you closer?

I didn't know your starter had a name.

Yes, its name was Goldie.

It's a nice name, Goldie.

Because you have to feed it every day.

And I said it's like taking care of a goldfish, so I named it Goldie.

How did you know that?

You know, you're this close to having a second podcast.

Or you're going to be my replaceable about bread.

With

Marcy and Jenna.

You laugh.

It could happen.

Oh my God, for sure it could happen.

Okay, back to your career.

This is a show.

You've built

a monster show here all based on one

half-hour comedy.

Yeah.

Bread.

is bigger.

It's bigger than the office.

I mean, it's huge.

People love the office.

People will really love bread.

I mean, it's a big deal.

It's a big deal.

I'm just saying.

I would, I would.

What are you in here twice a week?

Mostly.

How many days a week are you in here?

One day.

Are you wanting to run?

Once a week?

Exactly for the bread podcast?

Yeah.

Come on.

Timothy's going to be in here on Tuesdays, guys.

We'll bring you on.

We have a network now.

We do.

We have a network.

You can have a bread podcast on our network if you want it.

You have a network?

We do.

The Office Ladies Network.

What the?

want theisle yeah god damn it i've misspent my whole

show business

listen bread with timothy

it could happen it could all right what's our next question oh wait i'll leave this theme song by

bread by bread you know the band yes there you go

okay wait it writes itself it does it really does right there we were we were gonna ask you next about this like i haven't said anything i remember about modesto Modesto, by the way.

Wait.

Yeah.

Wait, what is your favorite favorite?

What is your favorite place to eat Modesto?

Like, what's your, like, I know Archer City, Texas.

I go to Mearns for a cheeseburger.

Oh, wow.

You know,

I mean, the places I've been going to lately are not places I went to growing up.

And Modesto,

I mean, growing up, when I think of like, where'd you go to eat when you were growing up?

I mean, we were like, we went to Arby's and we went to, you know, like Taco Bell, Taco, you know, that kind of thing.

It was kind of a a fast food joint.

There was an incredible, I think it's still there, Mexican joint on the way out to Oakdale.

Oh, I'm not going to remember it.

God, I'm terrible.

But that would be like, that was great to go out there.

And I'm pretty sure that's a Mexican food place on the way to Oakdale.

I don't sound like,

I've really drifted far from my room.

Modesto's Golden Sun.

I really have.

Because we didn't really go out to,

it's not a go out to dinner town.

i know you know yeah like my memories of of food in terms of it's like going to get winchels on sunday morning like getting donuts or something oh yeah it's good though i don't remember like foodie places there's a little bit of that now because almost the whole country's got into food right foodie places fancy foodies yeah uh so yeah no my childhood memories are just you know it was all about just roaming around we you know canals and orchards and um

all that

that's the end of that story right

cake parties in the in the orchard you know i mean in the canal yeah that was the teenage years times yeah yeah we had pasture parties when i moved back to the states but i read that you were a swimmer swam i grew up next to we grew up next door to a place which still there called it was at the time called the modesto swimming racket club it was literally we had an old farmhouse we had a field and a barn horse chickens and stuff that and we could just walk through that over to the racquet club and so my brothers and i all we just were there all the time just running around you know it was a walk to school neighborhood and yeah so we were bikes have been really good to me right now yeah so i swam and we all swam and played tennis my brother and i by the way We're hosting a charity tomorrow, tennis charity.

My brother and I, we've never done it before, first annual, Oli, it's what we're calling it, the OLI.

We're raising money for this really great place called the Center for Reflective Communities.

It deals with teen and young adult mental health.

And so if people want to go on there, they can hit the little plus sign and donate.

And where it says subject, you can put in our thing, play for good, the OLI, play for good, and donate money.

And God bless you, because they do wonderful work for.

Lord knows the young people need some help these days.

Well, we'll share that.

We'll put it in our Instagram stories with a swipe up.

And I'll show up with my racket.

Oh, let's go.

Okay.

Bring it.

We're playing Dingles.

I love Dingles.

Okay.

We're playing Dingles.

And we've got like, I think there's like 16 or 17 players that are all coming and donating like 500 bucks to play.

And there are like 16, 17 pros.

Oh, gosh.

So maybe.

But still come out and hit some balls.

You can hit with some pros.

Wait.

It's going to be super fun.

Are you playing?

I'm playing.

Dingles is so fun.

You can come out and play a little bit, hit with one of the some of the pros, and you can only say, okay, it's too much.

I don't want to play anymore.

And just hang out, and then there's alcohol.

Great.

Dingles is you have to hit cross court.

Yeah.

So, like, I have to hit cross court, and then the person next to me hits cross court.

Yeah.

And then the first person that misses, you can only do cross-court.

And when you miss, you yell, dingles.

And then the other ball that's active becomes a free ball for the whole court.

That's right.

But what happens to me is the minute someone yells dingles, I like.

You freeze?

I freeze.

Because I'm like, what happened?

And then the ball goes whizzing past me.

I'm like, ah.

Because like, imagine someone next to you yelling dingles really loud.

Take off!

Wouldn't that make you?

It would, yeah.

Yeah.

It did right now.

I could see it on her face.

I froze.

I stopped talking.

As soon as you guys started saying dingles, I haven't said a word.

We're doing it tomorrow.

Yay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Now let's see.

Okay, back to the office.

Had you seen the show before?

Were you a fan of it?

Did you know anyone?

Oh, yes.

Yeah, I'd seen both versions.

Did I know anyone?

I knew Rain.

Oh, yeah.

Rain Wilson,

when I first started acting in New York, he was my understudy in a play.

What was the first time?

I'm pretty sure that's true.

It was called The Monogamous at Playwrights Horizons.

By the way, I'm going to go see Rain's play

Saturday, closing night.

I'm going to go see Waiting for Godot on Saturday.

I saw it.

He's great in it.

Yeah.

I can't Really good.

I have a question from a fan.

Let's go.

It's Ahmit R.

from Edmonton, Alberta, who wants to know on the office, what was hardest to get used to?

The improvising in scenes or learning to see the camera as a separate character?

Take us back.

You're very great, like right out of the gate at like clocking the camera.

Yeah.

Because some people, that threw them off.

But we watched you look at the camera.

I appreciate hearing that.

I was about to answer that question with the question, which was, I don't remember.

Did I look at the camera?

What?

Yes.

It's all very vague, foggy to me,

my experience.

I don't remember.

You do.

Am I on one episode or multiple episodes?

Two episodes.

I'm on two episodes.

You have to do two, and then you have a cameo.

I hope that doesn't sound pretentious.

I just don't remember.

No, no, it's fine.

You're in two episodes, and then you have a little cameo for Michael's Last Dundee's where Michael sends the camera crew because Danny Cordre wins hottest in the office and it's in deleted scenes and I'm pretty sure it'll end up in the Superfan episodes too but yeah so you're

you you do win I'm in a deleted scene in another episode yeah yes Michael's last

you're in two episodes and then you got deleted from a third but you'll probably be added back

oh and what's that scene you're you've won hottest in the but i didn't show up for that you didn't and my and so you come so how am i in it oh they put me on the screen michael has a tv screen yeah and you your character says yeah i said i couldn't be there but michael sent out a camera crew to my house and oh so i shot and i shot that yes you talk it's you

you did it i didn't i don't remember that oh that's cool yeah well do you remember i do remember getting a dundee though and they sent it to my house it was very it was great oh that's cool yeah i got the little trophy yeah so do you still have it that says hottest in the office i don't know know oh that would be great to have for your shelf yeah yes i have

i have two and this will go next to it uh greatest uh world's best podcast guest yay our coffee mug i have two um

uh world's greatest dads i've i've won it twice oh that's so cute yeah now i've been a father for 25 years but i've only won the i've only got it twice and you have three children i have three children only two awarded you this by the way that's a good question The same kid.

I don't know.

I just like that I, for some reason, I have two of them.

Yeah.

Somewhere along the line, they either forgot they gave me one or they're like, oh, let's get it to them again.

Yeah, he really likes that.

Let's give them a try.

And I don't know if I am the world's greatest dad because I don't even remember who gave it to me or why or when I got it.

I just know I have two.

And I've always liked having the two side by side.

And I think for a second that Dundee might have been there.

I'm a bit of a minimalist at the house.

I don't tend to keep a lot of stuff.

That's good.

That's smart.

Oh, very good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I turned that frown around.

So I don't remember the looking at the camera bits.

Okay.

But it sounds like.

You did it really well.

That's great.

Okay, cool.

I don't remember anything being difficult about the show.

I remember other than I do remember laughing.

I'm sure I screwed up what would have been a really good scene because with Corel where I was, I just couldn't stop laughing because it was so intense and funny.

And there's a little bit of disappointment still there that I could not keep a straight face.

Is it when you're trying to leave the building?

Yes.

Because it's in the bloopers.

Yeah.

So at least it's got a life somewhere because he's incredible.

Yeah.

And he's fully committed.

And I'm quite certain, I haven't seen it in a long, you know, but that I'm the one busting up more than he is.

I'm sure I'm busting up and then, and that's making him then laugh.

But he was really impressive.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

He doesn't break.

He's like a statue.

It's really hard to make him laugh.

Yeah, no, he was very committed.

I have fond memories of my experience, you know, just in general.

I just remember enjoying the whole thing.

And you guys were all wonderful pros, great vibe.

He had already been on the air for a while.

Yeah, it was season seven, but it was always so fun when someone new came in because that new energy that it would bring to the set.

And I loved it so much.

I re-watched it.

The fact that Danny Cordre thinks Pam is a dork.

And that's why, do you remember our storyline?

He's coming back to me now.

Yeah.

So we had gone on a a couple of dates when Jim was away.

Two dates.

Two dates.

Two dates, and it was supposed to be a third, but then you didn't call me back.

And, but you try to tell Jim that it was that I didn't call you back.

And so I say, no, no, no.

And then we will not leave you alone.

And we're like, he has this great scene where he's like, man, why didn't you call her back?

And you're like,

for real, you want to know why I didn't call your wife back for a date like five years ago?

And you eventually admit that it's because you thought I was a little dorky.

And it's so great.

And what's so fun?

What's so fun?

That's so wonderful.

It's such a great scene.

And when you finally admit it that she's that Bam's a little dorky,

you're, I watched it with my son, who's 16, and he turned to me and he goes, This is so cringy.

Well, I'm dressed as olive oil.

I'm in a full Halloween costume.

Yes.

And so I am

like, I'm being pretty dorky.

And she goes, when you call her dorky, she goes, oh, okay.

Excuse me.

Like, it's so funny.

Do you remember that too?

Yeah.

So fun.

I love that storyline so much.

I want to ask you about the sting.

That's the first episode where you show up and you're this salesman and Michael's going to try to figure out why are you so good?

You're this rival salesperson.

Yeah.

And so they set up that fake office.

Yeah.

And then Meredith is an Oscar come in.

Meredith, wait, her name is something Van Helsing.

What is it?

Yeah.

Do you remember

Dwight and

I do remember?

I remember now a lot of this is coming back to me now, but I do remember the sting.

I remember that scene being in the office and her acting like a,

like she's super rich and in charge or something.

Yes.

Yeah.

And people are coming in and out.

Yes, because she starts to really hit on you.

And so they're like, ah, she's going to ruin it.

Send in Oscar.

And then Oscar comes in and she's literally like, he's here to clean.

He speaks no English.

And then they send in Ryan the Temp.

And she's like, that's Esteban.

He does floors.

So she keeps thwarting their plans.

Yes.

It's really fun.

It is a show.

How long ago is that?

It's a long time.

It's been, my God, how long ago now?

I mean, we probably shot that in 2010.

Yeah.

I mean, 15 years ago.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

People still will be like, you know.

Yeah, do you recognize Green Cordry?

Yeah, I'll get, you know, the occasional like, hey,

were you in the office?

Yeah.

That happens.

That happens.

I mean, that's so wild because you have such amazing, huge, larger than life other characters.

It's a huge, and also you get it from like teenagers and stuff.

Yeah.

It's amazing that show that just keeps on giving.

Yes.

How cool to be honest.

You guys were part of something that culturally relevant and huge.

We had no idea at the time.

Kind of amazing.

Yeah.

It was pretty wild.

I mean,

I don't have those kind of problems.

You guys must get that craziness.

People must go, okay, can you go to the airport?

What's it like when you go to the airport?

I can go a lot of places.

I really fly under the radar, and I always have.

I don't know if it's like some sort of like special gift or something.

I don't know.

But I

like I was once rear-ended by the paparazzi who were chasing Christina Ricci, and I had to get out of my car and like exchange information with them, and they never took my photo.

Like, that's like how invisible I am sort of to that amazing world.

Well, I would challenge you to fly southwest to Austin and walk through that airport

because you're going to get recognized a lot.

I think I can do it.

I'll take that challenge.

Let's go.

We're taking the show Office Ladies on the Road.

We're going to film one.

I don't know.

You guys, we're going to film one.

I get recognized a ton at airports.

Southwest Terminal in Austin.

She'll get recognized.

I want.

It's in the budget.

Let's go.

It's in the budget.

We can go talk to people about bread.

I invited myself on the trip, by the way.

You're in our spin-off show, Office Ladies on the Road.

Yeah, Office Ladies on the Road.

Come on.

That's a fun show.

You're a man on the street.

Well,

Bread of the Week.

Bread of the week.

Southwest, Austin.

We're building the network show by show right now.

I mean, you guys have a network.

This is what you're doing.

Will you please be at our next think tank meeting?

Because

we have 44 episodes we have to do.

I like that.

There have been already think tank meetings.

Yes, yes.

Yeah.

We've got one coming up in January.

They don't happen often.

Well,

it's a holiday, so you're shutting it down.

We're taking some time.

We're taking some time.

Yeah, we're going to think tank it.

Okay.

In the episode costume contest, Michael says, you remind him of someone.

And Kelly says, is it Josh Dumel?

Fan question from Keila V in Texas.

Do you often get confused for Josh Dumel?

Follow-up.

I heard he was on your Christmas card once.

Yeah, so I've told this story before.

So forgive me for, so yes, obviously I do.

But yeah, he was in my, he took a picture with, we were at an event together.

We'd never met.

But as soon as we saw each other, started laughing.

And while we were talking, one of the Dodgers, we were at a Dodgers event, and one of the guys asked him if he was going to be in any more Hitman movies, which is a movie I did.

And he asked Josh in front of me.

And

it was pretty great.

I watched him get

mistaken for me in front of me.

It was just wonderful.

And then it occurred to me, I said, you know what?

I got my whole family here.

Would you?

And he knew right away.

He was like, I'm in.

I got it.

So great.

So he took a picture with my wife and three kids.

And we sent it out as the holiday Christmas card.

That's so awesome.

My mom had it on the fridge and hadn't noticed it.

Didn't clock it.

My brother called me, said, dude,

mom had no idea.

I had to point it out to her.

And she said, I thought he looked taller.

It's such a good story.

It's a great story.

So, yeah, me and Josh forever linked.

Lovely guy.

He's a great sport about It's kind of funny.

It's funny.

You guys have one of those?

Yeah.

I've got a couple.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would get Amy Adams and Isla Fisher.

Okay.

And have you spoken to them about it?

Yeah.

Because you assume they also.

Yes.

Or maybe she says, sometimes the paparazzis don't pay attention to me because they think I'm you.

Yeah.

She's like,

they're like, go ahead, Kenna.

Sometimes when I'm being ignored, I realize, oh, you guys think I'm Jesus.

Yeah,

exactly.

No, one time at a party,

Amy and I were both at the party.

And the guy I was with at the time, he came up to me and he's like, oh my God, I'm so embarrassed.

I just went up and I put my arm around Amy Adams.

I thought it was you.

I thought it was you.

And I was like, nope, I'm over here.

And then she came up and she was like, I met your date.

It was

so great to meet him.

So, yeah.

So we've, we've talked about it a little bit, but I don't, I, it's like I kind of see.

Did you also say, NPS, don't put your arm around me in public?

I was like, I mean, we're not together anymore.

See?

I don't know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because he overstepped with somebody else.

Do you get one?

I've gotten before a shorter version of Laura Dern.

Sure.

Like the short version.

She's really tall.

So i don't know that's i don't know i don't know what do you i yeah that's all i got but you don't have the doppelganger showbiz doppelganger out there that you know you're being mistaken for because that's where we we have the i i yeah i you know i'll get giggles behind a counter and then i realize they don't they don't know who i am yeah right they think i'm him yeah no no although i really want to tell laura dern that someday that like hey I'm your short version.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You should play her short sister

in something.

Yeah.

I want to ask you a little bit about Justified.

Yes.

I have only just started watching the series, but I am loving it.

Thank you.

Me too.

My husband loved it.

And then he had me start watching it.

I love it.

Oh, thank you.

Do you still have the hat?

Never kept it.

What?

You didn't keep your hat.

You didn't keep the hat.

So keep that in mind with the Dundee.

Right.

I didn't keep the hat.

Yeah.

That is shocking to me.

What about from Deadwood?

Do you have your star?

No, I didn't keep any.

Do you take anything from sets?

So, yes, in that like a pair of jeans or anything that's practical.

Oh, and you're like, oh, I like the fit of these.

I'm going to wear these.

Oh, right.

These are nothing sentimental.

No, I never take anything sentimental.

I take things that I'm like, oh, I could use some socks.

Right.

Yeah.

No, my kids will make fun of me.

Like if I buy something, they'll be like, oh, dad bought a shirt.

Because a lot of times I will just be wearing things that have like my character name or it either says like you know when they put inside it either says hero or it says like yeah you know raylin yeah i'll have like a pair of jeans and inside it just says raylin or hero or yeah i'll have that you know what t-shirts

anything that's yeah those i'm take all i always tell the cost you know the customer i would say look there's going to be some things missing at the so i just i hope it's in the budget which is my clothes my wife but i don't i've never taken

Yeah.

And I will say, because I always think to myself, what am I going to do with the hat?

I mean, it's just going to sit there somewhere and take up space.

And I don't like having

you're minimal at home.

We've learned this.

I'm a bit of a minimalist.

I'm a bit of the.

When I first heard about that Maria Kondo.

Oh, right.

I was like, oh, yeah, I got it.

I do it already.

I'm there.

But she added the little thank you for your service.

Do you ever hear that little quote that she does?

As you throw it away.

As you throw it away.

Yes.

yes as you yeah yeah i love that i've added that i've added that

oh thank you big fan here big fan of that but i did keep a hat from the show we did a thing it's a spoiler but we did a thing where there was a guy a villain with a hat at towards the very end of this uh

the original show's ending and i wore this hat i took the dead guy's hat because he he shot my hat i had a whole we had a whole story idea anyway I took that hat and then had it refitted so that I could just wear it like a free hat.

Yeah.

It was a little bit along that practical thing.

I was like, I'd love to get a free hat out of this.

Right.

But I don't want to want that hat,

the hat.

So I got another hat.

You wouldn't recognize it as the hat from the show, but I was, because you just have it re-blocked.

I kind of wish I did that with the Rayland hat.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just took it and then just had it.

I forget, you can just have a hat re-blocked and just make it into it's not even recognizable.

And it'd be a fun fact to say, yeah, this is a Rayland hat.

Yeah.

There it is.

Yeah.

But I just like how it looks.

Yeah, just change it around.

I have a little story for us.

Well, two things.

One, I have a question from Julio in Clinton, New Jersey.

Julio says, which office character would best survive the justified universe?

I'm going with Creed.

Okay.

I think he is in that world.

He's sort of a criminal, but also sort of not, he's questionable i feel like a marshal would be needed to track him in some way yep that would have been great because everyone on your show is so good at comedy and but not acknowledging the comedy without pointing it out which is kind of what we were doing a little bit like you very much nothing more fun than taking someone who's like known for a sitcom and putting them in like a cool gritty like comedic performance on our show that was always my favorite thing i always love that when I watch a show to see someone from a world that's like totally different.

I think your character was that on the office too, for a lot of people.

That was really cool.

Yeah, because your time on the office was after Deadwood, but before Justified.

Okay.

So I'll take your word for it.

It was.

So

if you would watch Deadwood.

It's all a bit of a blur.

Yeah.

As a Deadwood fan, which I was,

you know, we had, that was a thing that we did on the show a lot.

Like we had a lot of folks who had been on the Sting.

Wait, is is that the name of the show?

No, The Wire.

I was going to say them.

I was like, wow.

We're professionals.

Hold on.

Timothy.

They're just like, can I just tell you this is our last show of 2024?

Can you feel it?

You had Redford, Newman.

Who else did you have from The Sting?

They're all.

Gleason.

Gleason.

He was in it.

Amazing.

They were great on the show.

Forgot Jackie Gleason was in The Sting.

Have you watched The Sting in a while?

Because it holds up and it's fantastic.

I have.

It's one of my favorite movies.

I would look, you know, I keep a list of things, and I want to say I watched it like a year or two ago.

Same seen it in a while.

Really solid.

All right.

So good.

Just wonderful performances.

I mean, just

that ending is just like you love everybody, right?

When they're all closing up shop, giving the little snow.

On the nose.

Now I need to rewatch that.

So wonderful.

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I found a little something on YouTube that I want to talk to you about.

Okay.

Well, I'm leaning in.

Everybody's leaning in.

You should have teased that.

By the way, put that in the front of the show.

I found a little thing on YouTube I want to ask you about.

But we'll get that in a minute.

We'll get to that later.

And then people will really stick around.

Stay tuned.

Why do you think we've lost them?

What are you saying?

All right.

What do you got on your tunes?

By the way, let's circle back to that thing you were saying on YouTube.

Yes.

See what I did there?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Will you just do this for us?

We have some ads for you later, too.

Oh, I'd love to sit in on the ads.

Oh, you're so funny when you read ads on Conan.

I love it.

Oh, thank you.

That made me laugh so hard.

Yeah.

I read ads on Conan's.

It was really funny.

Okay.

YouTube.

Here we go.

Okay.

It was April 2015.

Okay.

You were a guest on

a guest on Conan O'Brien.

Justified last episode was that night.

There was going to be a party.

You bring on to Conan a Mason jar of whiskey from Kentucky.

And you and Conan and Andy all drank whiskey during the interview.

Yeah.

I was the second guest that night.

And I came out and you poured me.

You didn't know it was real whiskey.

You didn't realize it was.

I was like, surely this isn't real

whiskey.

Yeah, we were drinking whiskey.

And I took a big slug of it.

Yeah, I remember.

And I was like,

oh, wow, that's real whiskey.

So that is the first time I've ever drank on television.

And I re-watched the interview.

You totally are great.

You, first of all that you guys were sipping

um and then i come out i take my slug of whiskey and i am so like wackadoodle in the interview oh no

no you're being tough on yourself no but no no it was it was really good whiskey and i totally thought it was a bit and i didn't think it was actual whiskey yeah we committed we committed you guys are very committed

timothy We shared with our listeners that you and I recently connected at our mutual friend's birthday party.

Yeah.

And I got to meet your wife of 30 years.

Yep.

Don't mess me up.

It's 30-something, I think.

Go ahead.

She is amazing.

Thank you.

We got it.

Thank you.

But that's nice of you to say.

Okay.

I agree.

We got a fan question from Kim P in Chicago who said, the sexiest thing about you is your long relationship with your wife.

Would you be willing to tell us you're meet cute?

Oh.

We're separating.

No, you are not.

You are not.

I have to assume that when you met her,

you knew immediately that you needed to marry this person.

She is one of the most phenomenal human beings I have ever met.

One of the strongest, best first impressions a human has ever made on me.

Your wife is like, she is, Alexis is like a gem of a human being.

Oh, that's lovely to hear.

I will pass that on to her.

I mean, because how did you do it?

She's never seen anything I've ever been in.

But that's kind of true, isn't it?

Which part?

That she doesn't like really engage in the whole like Hollywood thing.

No, yeah.

We met in college and

we went to USC.

Okay.

Junior year of college.

Yeah, we were 20.

And

we were in a class, oceanography.

That's a cool class.

Yeah, it was like a science, you know, requirement.

And

I was swimming at SC.

All the athletes basically, we had, you know, the athletes got the counselor.

They all said, you're taking oceanography.

Like, that's your science.

And it's a super fun class.

And it's really popular.

There's this guy, Pipkin, professor there.

It was a fun class.

Anyway.

Is it like the easy science class?

I think that was the idea.

Like all the athletes were like, you should take oceanography because that'll satisfy your your science.

And it's kind of a big, easy class and it's popular.

They probably also just liked all the athletes taking the same one class.

So

we were all getting the same tutor.

We were all being tutored to get through it.

We had a class like that they called Shake and Bake because it was earthquakes and natural disasters.

Oh.

And all the athletes were in it.

There you go.

So that's your shake and bake.

Yeah, oceanography.

And

you got a field trip to

Catalina Island?

To Catalina.

So you go out on the boat and go out there and go swimming snorkeling Catalina because Essie's got like an oceanography institute out there.

Oh, that's cool.

Yeah.

So she was in the class?

She was in the class.

She used to come in late.

One of the last people to come in.

So I'd always see her coming in.

And

to your point, I began referring to her as my girlfriend.

We'd never met,

but I was like, that's my girlfriend.

I need to save her a spot because

she comes in late and she'll have to come up sit next to me

so yeah that's we had met taking oceanography class we had friends in common yeah we first met I introduced myself to her after class oh that's so cute and the rest is history

yep all right

you've been so generous with your time

the last thing that we've been a pleasure I appreciate the invitation oh thank you yeah

the last thing we do on the show is season five of Office Ladies.

The last thing we do on the show are call sheet questions.

These are questions that we would ask members of our casting crew, and then we would put their little answers on the back of the call sheet.

Yeah, we'd put their answers on the back of our call sheets.

We didn't do this, like the production office did it, but it was such a fun thing on the set of the office.

And it's how people like.

You learned a little bit about the cast or crew.

That's a lovely show.

I know.

Isn't that wonderful?

Yeah.

So you guys are dominating the world with your show and just

making all this and also with the lovely kind of wonderful atmosphere and

the camaraderie.

It was like a family, really.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you want to kick it off, lady?

Sure.

Okay.

First question is, what was your first job?

It could be your first paid acting job or maybe your first job in general.

As far as I can remember,

I think we would be accepting two answers, either lifeguarding or swim coaching.

I think I co-

Yeah, those are probably the two jobs I kind of did when I was growing up.

Used to give swim lessons.

Yeah.

You know, because I was a swimmer and then the

whatever.

All right, so we're going to go with lifeguarding.

Lifeguarding.

Lifeguarding.

Lifeguarding.

All right.

Do you play a musical instrument?

I play guitar.

Not well, but I play it.

I played it a couple of times for a movie.

I never got into it for a couple of different jobs, but learned it well enough for the job.

And then, just a few years ago,

either pandemic or strike, I mean, just not long ago, my daughter, who's a very good singer-songwriter,

she was like, Dad, you should play guitar.

Play guitar with me.

So, we started, I started playing guitar with her, and that got me into it.

That is so sweet.

So, she's

I owe her some thanks.

Next question: What's a place that you've been to to that you absolutely loved?

Oh, well, I love the Carmel, the sort of Northern California.

Carmel's always been a very, they can put as many bad art galleries and cutesy.

I still thought, I love it.

I don't care how many they can, that's how great that place is.

They can shove, they've shoved so much bad art in that little community.

And I'm still like, yeah, it's great.

I love it.

Can't ruin it.

I just love that coast.

And that is always, I've always had a soft spot for it.

And we used to go there as kids,

not far from Odesto.

And my wife and I always go.

We honeymoon there.

I love that area.

All right.

I've got the next one.

What do you like to do on the weekends?

These days?

Sure.

Yeah.

So I swim early Saturday morning.

This is like the routine.

I swim early Saturdays.

You still swim.

Still swim.

Okay.

I've gotten way back into, I don't know why.

It's like a thing.

My wife dragged me.

I've always swam.

But a few years ago, I was working in Tribeca

with Alex Winter and

in New York.

And my wife is like, oh, we found a pool.

I usually do.

And then there was a master's program there.

And she's like, let's do masters, you know, where you kind of like are with a group and there's a coach.

And

I was like, I don't want to do that.

Come on.

And then I did it.

And I love it.

I'm like, yeah.

So now, yeah, swim over it.

So I swim usually Saturday mornings.

Lately,

we have a,

my wife and I share an art studio with our son.

If we're really a mellow weekend, we'll go, we'll go to, we like a Saturday in the art studio.

It's kind of great.

I mean, if we're just hanging in town, dog walks.

Our kids are, we're empty nesters.

So it's just chill time.

Like we do whatever.

We're done with the like trying to get kids to a tennis tournament or whatever.

Yeah.

Which is kind of nice.

That sounds really chill.

May play tennis over the weekend.

I play with my kid.

I play with my brother.

Yes.

Weekends, weekends in LA are pretty chills.

Sunday, more like just Sunday tend to be stick around the house.

Yeah.

Like chore day kind of.

Chores.

Like, do you have a

Sunday chore?

Angela I'm in show business.

I grew up doing so many chores.

Did you guys have chores?

Like, I was a chore.

You were a chore person growing up.

You had chores.

We had major chores, major chores.

My buddies were like, dude, how?

I was like, I just got to do my chores and then I'm free.

And they were like, oh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then.

And now my kids, I don't think they, I don't think they know, like, they'd be like, chore, what is that?

Look it up in the dictionary.

I know.

I know.

It's a chore.

We just, we decided to like have a chore day and we told our kids they have to load the dishwasher what that's

yes oh my god you know my chores weren't growing up

load the dishwasher listen i'm in losing that's a routine that's not a chore yes thank you that's a routine they're 14 but let me tell you you have a wait that's still

What

do you, how do you mean that?

But they're 14.

But like, why, like, we're in Los Angeles.

It's not like, listen, in Archer City, Texas, chores were like, go, you, I had friends that had to milk the cows.

Yeah.

You know, we had to go collect eggs.

We had to clean out ponds.

We had to like mow lawns and we had to like prune and weed.

And like, we had like chores.

There was like, there's a wheelbarrow involved.

Anyway, we had a wheelbarrow involved.

There was something that took gasoline.

Yes.

That was a chore.

My dad, where he bailed hay.

It was like chopping.

We had to like, you know, there was something involved.

You might not get like, there might be blisters.

No, I'm not saying.

There was a shed.

We had to go out to the shed okay fine keeping them grounded well anyway i want you to know dishwasher i want to tell you it was a show

when i opened the dishwasher i was like what the hell happened in here everything was just thrown in there i do remember the moments with my kids and that when they were pretty old and i'm like could you just sweep this up and and you know and then you know and i started watching i'm not even gonna name which one because pretty much all of them had this moment where i was watching them sweep and I'm like,

Who taught you to sweep?

What is that?

What where'd you learn that?

And I realized I've failed.

I haven't taught it's my fault.

I mean, I can't blame them for not knowing how to sweep.

Clearly, that's something you have to kind of at some point someone else to show you.

Oh my god, it was so embarrassing.

I was like, That's not how you sweep.

Like, how is that?

I thought that was just something you knew.

No, no, it's not natural.

I have a new thing that I just implemented with my kids.

I want to get your take on it.

All right.

Let's hear it.

So

I heard this on a podcast,

which when I told my kids that, they were like, oh,

mom heard a podcast.

Mom and her podcast.

Mom and her ideas.

So

the thought behind it is rather than make them a chore list that they have to do, you teach them how to notice what needs to be done and do it.

Because the mental labor

of making the list and

saying what has to be done, like that's half the chore.

So what you're wanting to do is like raise people who can see with their own eyes what needs to be done.

So

I have this thing where I this is a podcast called Pipe Dreams.

Pipe Dreams for Parents.

Pipe Dream for Parents.

Next on the Office Ladies Network.

There's pipe dreams for parents who don't live practically.

So here's what I did.

This kind of thing, it feels like this is like right next to Whole Foods, like where you go down the aisle in Whole Foods and there's like just stuff in there that's supposed to do things.

We're like, how is that even possible?

That doesn't work.

And we all just lost our minds as soon as we walked in this place.

I set a timer for 15 minutes.

And they have to notice.

For 15 minutes, they have to walk around and notice.

See what needs to be done and do it.

How's that working?

Wait, and then they're done after 15 minutes?

Yeah.

This is making my dishwasher thing look hardcore.

I got to say, I mean, I hope they turn out.

I do.

You know that.

And by the way, I feel the same about my kids are already in their 20s, so I have a pretty good idea.

But that seems crazy.

Compared to how, no, I mean, I'm not saying what my, because, you know, I got, I think there's some areas they kind of screwed up, but

they just said, like, this is what needs to go be done.

That's hilarious.

15 minutes, walk around, notice.

I mean, the gag there is they take 12, 13 minutes to notice something.

And then they're like, they only got two minutes to do it.

I got it.

Still looking around.

Still looking around.

I got 15.

I've noticed a couple of things, but I want to keep kind of poking.

There might be something better.

It's amazing.

All right.

I thought we got, I think we hit our stride somewhere where we realized if we just wrote the routines, that was the easiest way.

Like write it on the board, your sort of task?

Is what you're doing Monday.

This is what you're doing Tuesday.

It's what you're doing Wednesday.

Just these are the tasks.

A little bit.

Because otherwise you were constantly saying,

you know, hey, I need you to, could you just go do this?

Could you go?

And they're like, oh my God, you're just going to throw that on me whenever.

So it was more like, read the board.

Here's the board.

These are the things that are going to be done.

This is, you know, this is, this is yours.

This is your sister's.

This is whatever.

Yeah.

And it was, it's, it is LA.

It's not Modesto life, so it's not like they're out mowing.

I mean, no.

No, we were, we were like working.

We had like, I pulled weeds.

I picked up dog poop.

Oh, yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

I mean, I cleaned the toilets.

I was bathrooms.

That was my job in my house growing up.

Oh, that's cool.

Yeah.

I think just three boys and we were just out in the yard working.

We had daily chores and then then weekends were like

all hands-on work.

And my memory is a few hours before I was free to go hang out.

Yeah.

It was always my buddies making plans and then they're like, you'll join us like around noon, one o'clock when you're done.

I remember going over the canal to open up to water,

you'd have to let the water into the field and water the fields.

Those are real chores.

We had real chores, yeah.

Did you take 15 minutes to look around?

Just take 15 minutes to look around.

Just see what needed to be done.

I think, in theory, this is a really good thing.

It's amazing.

All right, our last question, and we're going to let you go.

Okay.

What is your favorite midnight snack?

Oh, I'm going to go with,

I guess I would go with like peanut butter.

Oh, well, yeah, lately, probably peanut butter.

Like peanut butter.

If there's like.

Just straight up?

Well,

God, we have gotten to this place where we don't have a lot of,

like back in the day, I'd be like ice cream.

But now I'm like, I don't really do that anymore.

Like that's, isn't that sad?

You get to a certain age, you have memories of midnight snacks.

Yeah.

I remember I used to eat a pine ice cream.

Now it's like, what?

That's gross and disgusting.

What's wrong with you?

You got to get up and swim.

Exactly.

So now, like, we don't, like, I think like right now

at the house, the only thing that we have that I will definitely reach for is I bought a a bunch of, I was in Finland working.

I brought so much good licorice home.

So I'll like reach for the licorice.

But when that's gone, that's it.

I'm screwed.

I'm just like, oh, maybe some peanut butter and honey.

I mean, really, my midnight snack is probably just like bourbon.

That's actually my midnight snack.

It's just the liquor cabinet.

Bourbon on the rocks.

Yeah, exactly.

There you go.

Thank you so much.

This was a pleasure.

Ladies, if I can call you that.

You can call us ladies.

Ladies, it's been a pleasure.

Thank you so much.

Thanks for having me.

Well, we're going to get your dates that you can travel.

So when we go on the road,

yeah.

All right.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Timothy.

It was my pleasure.

I mean, how fun.

He is so funny.

I know.

And you actually ended up going to his tennis charity event.

I did.

You know, after the interview, we were talking a little bit before he left.

And he was like, I'm serious.

If you want to play, you should come.

He got my phone number, and on my drive home, he called me and he was like, Hey, I'm about to text you all the info.

I was like, Okay, it was the next day.

And lady, I wore my Songs of Scranton t-shirt to represent the office ladies' team.

I was paired up with Timothy's sister-in-law, Robin, and I played with this great group of gals.

And I met a lot of his family.

It was very much a family affair.

Plus, there were some fantastic tennis players, like jaw-dropping, amazing tennis, and some familiar faces like Joel McHale.

Oh, yes.

I just want you guys all to know that Joel has a really good cross-court forehand.

Although, and Joel, I have given him crap about this.

He did get schooled in the court one or two times.

Okay.

But that's okay.

There was these tennis players were really good.

I was not in the like super good.

I was in like the medium court.

Is that what they call it?

Super good, medium good, not so good.

Is that how they did that?

That is not how they did.

They had, if you want to know, they had like 4.5s

and fours and 3.5s.

And I was on the 3.5 court.

Okay.

And threes, but I was, yeah.

So I was, 3.5 is good, lady.

That was my GPA in college.

So that's very fun.

Served me well there.

But it was a really fun day.

And thank you, Timothy, for including me and Robin for introducing me to your tennis gals.

And, you know, it was just a lot of great people coming together for a good cause.

I will share in our stories, but like Timothy said in his interview, all the proceeds went to Center Center for Reflective Communities, and I'll put a swipe up so you can learn more about it.

Well, Angela, another follow-up that we should give is that Timothy did go and see Rain's production, the closing night of Waiting for Godot, and loved it.

Loved it.

Took his mom.

Texted us to update us, which I thought was so nice.

Hey, ladies, by the way, we loved it.

We loved the play.

Well, a big thank you to Timothy for coming in the studio to talk with us.

We hope you enjoyed this episode.

And thank you to everyone who sent in questions.

We just love hearing from you.

Have a great week.

Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

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