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And sorry.

I'm Jenna Fisher.

And I'm Angela Kinsey.

We were on the Office together.

And we're best friends.

And now we're doing the Ultimate Office Rewatch podcast just for you.

Each week, we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind-the-scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you.

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Hi, Ange.

Hey, Jenna.

Why are you looking at me like that?

Because I have some sciatica pain in my hip.

Oh, Lord.

Is this how we're starting today?

Yeah.

All right, what else you got?

Well, I was trying to stretch it and you told me I had to sit down.

You guys, she was kicking her leg in the air.

It was comfortable, but you felt good.

You think you can do that for 45 minutes?

I think I can, yeah.

Okay, go.

You go, girl.

I thought I could kick my leg and do this podcast at the same time, but Angela told me to sit down.

I did because sit down.

I didn't say it like that.

I was like, A, you're going to hurt yourself.

B, I don't think I can concentrate.

Why should you kick your foot up like that?

All right.

Well, I might need to do it midway, but let's get started.

Okay, Jenna.

When you do it midway, I'm going to film you and I'm going to put it on Office Ladies.

All right.com.

All right.

Today we are talking about the carpet.

It is season two, episode 14, written by Paul Lieberstein, aka Toby, and directed by Victor Nelly Jr.

Yeah.

I'm going to give you a summary.

Do it.

In this episode, someone leaves a

gift on Michael's carpet.

You could call it that.

In his office.

It is soft.

It is smelly.

You're going to describe it.

It is brown.

Gross.

But the question is: who done it?

Michael is determined to find out.

Everyone's a suspect.

He suspects everyone in the office.

To keep a close eye on the office, he takes over Jim's desk, which forces Jim to go work at an empty desk right next to Kelly.

And Jim quickly learns why Kelly works in the back by herself.

But the biggest surprise of this episode might be that you finally see Pam and Roy getting along.

They've come back from a vacation and they're all giggly.

They're giggly.

They've been in the Poconos.

Yeah.

Which I googled.

It's only about 51 minutes from Scranton.

And is it snowy?

It's snowy because this was January and here are the best activities.

Because I went down the rabbit hole of the Poconos.

Now I want to go to the Poconos.

It's beautiful.

In the winter, here are the best activities to do in the Poconos, right?

One hour away from Scranton.

Snow tubing, skiing, snowboarding, a casino, snowmobile, ice skating, snowshoeing.

There's a brewery and a spa.

Oh, I bet Roy went to the brewery.

Yeah.

I mean, I mean, yeah.

That's for sure.

They pretty much did that in the casino.

Jim asked Pam if she did a lot of skiing, and she says, not really.

Yes, she says.

Or a little.

A little.

A little.

All right.

Are you ready for some fast facts?

I am.

And then at some point, Jenna, you'll have to let me know with your sciatica and all of that business yeah i do have a gift for you you do yes and i want to share it with you right here with all of our office ladies listeners because y'all been listening oh my gosh who am i

i should tell you guys my sister janet from texas has been here for a week and so i just said y'all been listening

yeah when you two get together you get all southern i get very southern so anyway you guys will get it you'll be in on the joke and and that's why i want to give it to you like during a podcast do you want to give it to me right before we start with fast facts?

I guess we should after I've said all that.

That's a big build-up.

You're probably really curious.

Oh, it's wrapped in bubble wrap, just like Michael's foot from the injury.

Look at you with your little office callback.

That's right.

You guys that have been listening know that Jenna hasn't really seen Star Wars, and it's okay.

I've come to terms with this, you guys.

I don't like scary movies, right?

This is an impasse in our friendship.

What are we going to do?

We don't know.

So, anyway, but you did say you love Star Wars sort of memorabilia.

I do.

You were Princess Leia for Halloween as a kid.

Yeah.

Right?

All right.

So remember my little baby Yoda?

No.

My crochet.

Stop it.

Baby Yoda.

Stop it.

Okay.

So I have to give a huge shout out to Shay.

He crocheted this.

He is one of my Instapal friends.

His name on Instagram is, oh, Shay, what is it?

It's Foron Fleek.

Am I saying that right?

I hope so.

But he heard how much you loved mine and and Jenna.

Oh, he made you one.

Look at him.

Baby Yoda.

Oh my gosh.

Little crib and it's crocheted by hand.

And look, it's a Christmas.

It's a Christmas ornament.

Well, you know, two of my favorite things are Christmas decor.

And handmade Christmas stuff.

You love that.

And also baby things, like things made into babies.

I know.

Right?

Baby elephant.

I was just watching this movie, Journey 2

with my son, and they have little bitty tiny tiny elephants on the island.

The elephants are shrunk down and they're little, and they're so cute when they're tiny.

Well, now you have a tiny baby.

And that's from Shay, Jenna.

Oh, Shay, thank you so much, Angela.

Thank you so much.

Well, Angela.

You had to have one.

I have a surprise for you, but I'm going to save it.

Is it a scary movie you're going to make me see?

I got you a severed head

from

a

famous scary movie.

No,

I got you Freddie's glove.

No, I didn't.

This is not a tangible item that I'm going to hand you, but it is a thing I'm going to tell you.

Okay, I can't wait.

Okay.

Let's start with fast fact number one.

I declare with full authority.

Bankruptcy.

No.

We have reached full Mindy.

The carpet is when we reach full Mindy.

This is full Mindy, you guys.

You're going to hear it.

You know it.

It's happening.

I asked Sam to make a compilation of all of the things that the character of Kelly says to Jim back in the annex to prove that we have hit full Mindy.

So first of all, the hair is transformed.

The hair is pretty much down just a tiny clip, but it's fashionable.

The outfit, super pink, fluffy.

Skirt, all of it.

Pink lipstick.

She sits on her desk.

She puts her feet up.

She's like, I mean, come on.

She also talks about Beyonce.

This is a big thing.

She talks about about the color pink.

She crushes on Ryan.

And at the end, she breaks.

Uh-huh.

Here it is in its glory.

The full Mindy.

Do it.

I'm serious.

My closet doors will not shut.

Beyonce, pink the color, pink the person, hot dogs, basically anything that is awesome.

Oh my god, he is so cute.

Would you talk to him for me and see if he likes me?

Oh, please, Jim.

Please, please, Jim, please, please, please.

He's so cute.

I like him so much.

And I would do it, but I'm too shy.

Please, Jim, please, please, please, please, Jim, please, please, please.

There you go.

Oh, man.

And poor Jim this episode.

We'll get to that.

But come on, Beyonce.

There's a lot of Mindy here.

Yes, I think this is it.

Now we're going to track and see if she stays full Mindy.

Don't worry, we're not done tracking this in case you were worried.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, if, you know, next episode she has a bun, we're going to let you know.

I'm pretty sure in in Casino Night, she gets extensions like suddenly that we never speak of, or her character never speaks of, but she's got this gorgeous long hair in Casino Night.

So we'll, we'll track that as well.

All right.

Fast fact number two, we have a big guest star.

Ken Howard shows up as Ed Truck.

Now, this is the only episode where we see this character, but we refer to him a lot.

He was the boss of the office before Michael, and Michael worked under him when he was a salesman.

Ken Howard is a famous character actor in Hollywood.

First of all, he's six feet six inches tall.

Is that insane?

He's so tall.

You notice in the scene that he does with Steve that he's like kind of towering over Steve.

He's a very large person.

So Ken played basketball in school and he was offered a number of scholarships, but he turned them all down in favor of pursuing an acting career.

And he started his career in the theater.

Angela?

A theater actor?

I studied theater classes too, Jenna.

You're like, Angela, it's this thing called theater.

Theater actor.

I mean, you know, I'm kind of a fancy theater person.

Well, you know, I didn't meet Ken or share a scene with him, but a theater bond was felt.

Did you study like dialects in your acting theater school?

I see what you're doing there.

Oh, do you?

That was a dig.

You know what?

I see what you're doing.

You're digging.

All right.

Well, he won a Tony Award.

Ah.

He appeared in over 100 movies and television series during his 47-year career.

Unfortunately, Ken passed away in 2016, but he left behind this huge legacy.

You know, he was even the president of the Screen Actors Guild Union for four years.

Yes.

So he is, guys, just an icon of the entertainment industry.

And we were so lucky to have him for just this one scene.

Oh, it was huge.

We were thrilled, thrilled.

So, Angela, fast fact number three

is my my surprise to you.

Oh, okay.

Are you ready for it?

I don't know.

I watched Game of Thrones.

What?

What?

That's right.

What episode?

The first two and a half episodes.

Did you really?

Yeah.

I couldn't turn it off.

Do you like it?

I have a lot of thoughts.

Oh, no.

Do you want my thoughts?

Yes.

Okay.

So, first of all, episode one of Game of Thrones.

Okay.

Very horror movie, Angela.

The White Walkers and the dismembered bodies.

And love that.

I know.

I was like, why didn't she tell me about this part that I'm in?

I thought you knew about the White Walkers.

Jenna, we called my cat Otter the White Walker.

I didn't know what that meant.

I don't know what that means.

It's because he was so old.

He was like 22 years old and he barely had any fur left.

And he'd be like, meh.

And we called him the White Walker.

Well, I liked the opening.

Then we cut to the credit sequence, which is going over this map of lands and names of lands.

And I was just like, oh, this is the part I don't want to learn.

Okay, that part is long and just skip past it.

And also as seasons change and the topography changes, those images change.

But anyway, just skip over it.

Then I want to say, there's a lot of brother-sister love.

Listen, in the beginning.

Just a lot.

In the beginning.

And then I think that kind of tapers off a little bit.

Okay.

I know.

Jenna, listen, there's some messed up stuff.

Okay.

Well, I'm I'm liking the, is it the Stark family?

Yes.

Lord Stark and his family.

I'm digging on them.

Oh, okay.

I'm hating the queen and her brother.

Oh, yeah.

I know.

Ooh.

The Lannisters.

Ooh, the Lannisters.

Is that their name?

Okay.

But here's my big observation.

Okay.

And I want you to help me out here.

This is fantasy, right?

This is not based on anything.

Game of Thrones is just fantasy.

Okay.

Here's my beef.

Okay, you're only two episodes in.

Go on.

Two and a half.

Here's my beef.

That's why I want you to speak to this for me.

Okay.

Why can't the women do more than sew and marry?

Oh, they do.

They're going to do a lot more.

I'm just saying that, like, you take the Wonder Woman thing, right?

And it's fantasy.

And so it's about like a badass island of women warriors because we can make up anything we want.

It's not based in any real time period.

Right.

So why does fantasy as a genre in general seem to

put men and women in such traditional roles basically, especially for Game of Thrones.

I mean, you guys out there that have watched it know this is kind of a little bit of a subtle hint, but she's not going to get it.

So, you know, just ignore, ignore.

The women pretty much end up burning it all to the ground.

They are literally like, I am woman!

They serve it up, lady.

Don't you worry.

All right.

They're going to dish it out.

I really hope that that girl, the girl who loves the sword play, that's a dog.

Aria?

Oh, yeah.

Trust me.

Okay, hold on.

Aria's going to do, Aria's going to be okay.

Aria has a list.

I'm not even going to get into it.

Ooh, wait, whoa, wait, wait.

She has a list?

You don't want to be on her list.

You know, I love a list.

Oh, honey, you don't want to be on this list.

Ooh, okay.

I can't wait for Aria's list.

Oh, it's good.

Okay.

I want to say one last thing, and we can cut this out if this goes on too long.

I want to just say one last thing.

Winter is coming.

We get it.

It's coming, guys.

We've been talking.

I mean, how many times per episode do they need to say winter is coming?

And also, this winter, it's like, I feel like they have the wrong name for it.

It doesn't sound like a winter's coming.

It sounds like an avalanche is coming to bury you for seven years in cold.

It's an avalanche of dead walking people.

Okay.

I mean,

that's what's coming.

The white walkers are coming.

So the white walkers come with winter, but the white walkers aren't affected by winter.

Jenna, I'm not going to get into it.

I'm not going to get into it.

All I'm saying is winter is coming is a layered metaphor.

Okay.

It's

a cold.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

All right.

Well, good.

And the Dothrockies, is that my saying it right?

The Dothrockies, yeah.

And Carl Drago.

Yeah.

Is his name Carl?

No, it's Cal.

Oh, Cal.

I love that you thought that the guy that speaks no English and is shirtless on a horse was named Carl.

I did.

Khaleesi and Carl, they're going to make a happy pair.

Look at him riding off in the sunset.

Carl.

I was like, Carl,

they only refer to him by his first and last name all the time.

I have noticed that in two and a half episodes, he has only said the word no three times.

It's because he can't, Carl can't speak English, Jenna.

Okay.

Thank you.

Well, that was it.

That was it.

I gave in.

I did it.

I watched it.

I'm a little bit hooked.

Okay, good.

You'll love all the White Walker stuff.

Okay.

I now, I guess, have to watch, watch what's it the edge with the edge the edge have you never seen the edge we already you already know this but you've never seen it what how many different ways do you want me to tell you i haven't seen it you know about the bear how do you know about the bear i've seen trailers i've seen you know what all i needed to see was a man like getting attacked by a bear and i'm like i'm out also so the revenant was not for you oh hell no academy award winning film the revenant hell no another great survivalist film for all you survivalists out there i saw saw a trailer, and what's his name?

Leo DiCaprio is getting mauled by a bear and he's like, pass, hard pass.

All right.

Well,

you know, I like quotes from things, and I really appreciated this quote from Game of Thrones.

I love that we're still talking about it.

Go.

The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword.

Oh, yeah.

I liked that.

And he made his son cut off that guy's head.

No, he made him watch as he cut off the head.

Well, eventually he makes him cut off someone's head.

Wow.

Spoiler.

A bunch of people are going to lose their heads.

Just

part of life back then.

Okay.

Back then in fantasy land.

There you go, guys.

That was my fast fact number three.

I promise after this break, we will begin talking about the office again, specifically the carpet.

We will break down the episode for you.

I think Dwight would have loved Game of Thrones.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I think him and Angela would have watched it.

You guys would have spoken to one another in Dothrocky.

Oh, for sure.

It would be like our code language.

You have a somewhat Dothrockian relationship.

A bit of a Cal Khaleesi thing.

You mean Carl?

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Okay, we're back from break.

We start this episode with a cold open.

Pam is on vacation.

Yes.

Ryan is at the reception desk and Jim keeps glancing up.

At Ryan and he's like, what are you looking at?

And Ryan has that great talking head where he's like, Jim keeps looking over at reception,

but it's not as creepy creepy as the way Michael's looking at him.

Yes, exactly.

Okay, so the episode starts and Pam is back from vacation.

She's happy.

She's at front reception.

Michael walks in and calls her Spamster.

Yeah.

He hasn't done this bit in a while where he takes her name and smushes it with other things.

And she's like, let me guess how you got that, Pam, Spam, and hamster.

Spamster.

And then as he walks off, he goes, I am Pam, Spiccoli.

You guys, for your, you young people, he's pretending to be Jeff Spiccoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Yeah, that's a dated reference.

That is a dated reference.

Michael goes in his office.

What happens, Jenna?

There's something very smelly on the carpet in his office.

What I love about this is we don't ever show you too much of it.

You see a little bit on the carpet, though, and what you see is foul.

Yeah.

It is so gross.

It's pretty awful.

And he makes a bunch of people come into the office to see what it is.

We had a fan question from David Griffiths and Haley Crook and many others.

They wanted to know, was there anything in the office that made it actually smell so that we were having authentic reactions?

No.

That is just some good acting, right?

Real good acting.

As I watched this, I was so impressed.

I was so impressed.

I actually texted Brian and I was like, I want you to go back and rewatch the carpet.

When you get a whiff of whatever it is, it made me laugh so hard.

I was like, he did such a great job.

And Michael has a line, you guys, that I feel like is sort of my vernacular, like the way I would talk.

He says, there is a stink in there.

That is how you would describe it.

There's a stink, y'all.

And I love Creed's line.

A lot of fans pointed this out.

Someone making soup.

Somebody making soup.

So my sister Janet was visiting and watched this episode with me.

She made me screen grab Phyllis's face reaction to when Creed says somebody making soup.

Seriously, it is hilarious.

It's at three minutes, 10 seconds.

Somebody making soup.

Look at Phyllis's face.

Next, we have Michael's Talking Head where he's talking about Fear Factor and he has to leave.

And then for the rest of the episode, we're clearing out his office.

I did a deep dive on Fear Factor.

Why, Jenna?

Why did I do a deep dive?

I don't know.

This has started to happen to us where something's mentioned in an episode and then we spend hours.

watching clips or researching things on websites.

My gosh, it was like you watching all the videos of the Hooters' birthdays.

Yeah.

I watched these Fear Factor clips.

You guys, it was like, okay,

eat this dried horse rectum.

I'm not kidding.

Yeah.

I'm not kidding.

Or intestine or something.

And then I looked up why it got canceled.

Okay.

It's so gross.

What happened?

I don't even think we can say it here.

What happened?

They had.

It got canceled because of an incident?

Yes.

And they didn't air it.

but it's why it got canceled and joe rogan has talked about it it's so gross what okay you had two choices this episode is called the hee haw episode you could drink donkey pea or donkey semen

that is horrible jenna that is horrible did they do it they did it oh they did it and one guy said as he started drinking he vomited back in his own cup oh god it's horrible oh my god it's horrible this was and how how did this get i mean who was like yeah that's a great idea let's also how did they get the donkey jizz?

Oh, oh, Angela.

I'm sorry.

It's my first thought.

Whose job was that?

Wow.

No.

No.

No.

No.

I don't think so.

No.

Not happening.

Next up in the episode.

Wow.

Sorry.

Did everyone do it?

Or just like, what happens if you don't do it?

You're out?

I don't know.

Like, I know they're, you know, there's the contest.

And if you do it, ultimately, whatever all the challenges are, I don't know how people get picked, but whoever does the challenge, if they don't do it, they're out.

It was a crazy show.

Crazy.

All right.

I'm looking in the booth where Sam and Cody are sitting.

They seem sad.

They've ruined their day.

You guys, I just, well, like, this was such a big deal for Michael to like be like, this is my fear factor audition tape.

I was like, oh, yeah, what was that show again?

I just started looking it up.

That was like one of the first things that came up.

Anyway, you're welcome.

Where are we?

So next up, Jim enters.

He asks about Pam's vacation.

He is so excited that she's back at the reception desk, but then we reveal that Roy and Daryl are also upstairs and that Roy is, they're cleaning out Michael's office.

They're going to replace the carpet, basically.

And Pam and Roy are clearly on good terms.

They're like giggly.

They're giggly.

And Roy is like engaging with her.

You know what I mean?

She like looks over and mouths the word help, you you know, because he's got to go do this gross job and she laughs.

And so they're being kind of flirty and sweet and Jim clocks it right away.

We had a fan question from Jamie Boggs.

Why on earth are the warehouse guys changing the carpet?

How is that in their job description?

I kind of agree, but it makes sense to me.

I feel like Michael makes people do things outside of their job description all the time.

And so we kind of had to do this too, just as a writing convention.

We needed a reason for Roy to be upstairs for this whole episode.

So we kind of need him to change the carpet.

But a lot of people asked, did they really rip up and replace the carpet?

Well, they did really rip it up,

but I don't think they really replaced it.

I think they just put it back down again in the end.

Yeah, I think there was like a top carpet they pulled up.

Yeah.

But then that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, but they did.

I mean, they really did dismantle the office in the middle of this shooting.

Yes.

And all of Michael's talking heads take place in the conference room.

All of his stuff is piled behind him.

Yes.

So that's sort of a new spot where we see Michael.

That was a fan question too from Alexandra.

What is the room Michael has his talking heads in while his carpet is being cleaned?

It's the conference room.

I was curious too.

And so I zoomed in on the scene where Michael is talking.

And I realized it was the conference room because the painting is hanging on the wall behind him.

Yeah.

It was a painting that was always in the conference room.

I felt like that was a nice little touch to let the audience know where he was.

At one point, it actually falls down.

I noticed that.

Banging around.

That was a blooper.

That was a blooper.

That was not intended.

But it it was a great, just like kind of reminder of like where he was.

So next up, Michael takes over Jim's desk, forcing Jim into the annex.

He's going to sit next to Kelly.

She explains that Toby used to sit there, but he had to move due to an allergy.

To the desk.

To the desk.

His allergy was to the desk.

I'm pretty sure all those desks are the same desk, but Toby just had a specific allergy to that one.

So then we have Michael in the bullpen and he's chatting with Dwight.

They're kind of talking about the old days.

They start talking about Ed Truck, and you see that great

flashback photo.

And the mullet haircut.

Yeah.

Also, at five minutes, 12 seconds, Dwight is so happy that Michael is going to be sitting next to him.

He is just so thrilled.

And I watched the deleted scenes for this episode, and there's a really cute talking head where Dwight is like, this is just a gift.

The woman I'm dating might say it's a gift from God, but I don't know about that.

And it flashed, it cuts to me.

But there are some great deleted scenes for this episode if you have the DVDs.

And And I have a talking head, Kevin has a really funny one.

There's a deleted scene, you guys, where Jim is looking up the hotel where Pam and Roy stayed in the Poconos.

Oh, that's a little depressing.

I know.

And Kelly's like, What are you looking at?

There's also a deleted scene where he's eating alone in his car.

Oh, yeah, because he can't find anywhere to eat.

Exactly, exactly.

But there is some like really sweet sort of Dwight-Angela little nods to that relationship in the deleted scenes.

And also, during this whole sort of Dwight-Michael moment, we learn that Dwight is sitting where Todd Packer used to sit and Michael is sitting in his old desk because Ed Trek would have been in his office.

So Michael is having a little bit of like reliving the glory days of when he was out on the floor as salesman.

Yes.

I think we have some real Stanley sass in this episode.

Stanley sass.

Yes.

At seven minutes, one second, Michael bugs Stanley and Stanley is on the phone.

And this is what, this is what Stanley says to him.

I just loved loved it.

Leslie David Baker did such an amazing job.

What is it that you need right now that can't wait until I'm off the phone with a customer?

I was like, there's some Stanley sass.

So Michael is now walking around the bullpen and he's just really misbehaving.

Yeah.

He's like.

acting out in some way.

He thinks maybe they were all in on it, but yet also I think he's trying to live his glory days.

He just punches the heck out of Creed.

Oh, I loved Creed's reaction to that though.

It was so earnest.

It's like one of the few times he's truly earnest.

He's like, ow, why'd you hit me, Michael?

Like, it actually really hurt him.

And Michael, as he punched him, yelled, Charlie horse.

He's like a kid on a playground, basically.

He's like a bad kid on a playground, but that's not a Charlie horse.

Punching someone isn't a Charlie horse.

You know what a Charlie horse is.

That's just when your muscle seizes up.

Well, yeah, but I think what he's trying to say is like, How does a horse bite an apple?

Wait, what?

Stop.

Stop the podcast.

What?

How's a horse bite an apple?

Is that like Charlie horse just hitting someone or is he hitting someone to give him a Charlie horse?

What is how's a horse bite an apple?

Come over here.

I'll show you.

No, no, no, no, no.

Explain.

No.

What is this?

This is the thing you do to a person on a playground.

It's called how's a horse bite an apple?

How's a horse bite an apple?

I'm going to show you.

I'm scared.

What are you reaching for right now?

You're reaching for what?

My arm, my hand?

What are you reaching for?

It's that strong.

It's not going to hurt that bad.

If Josh did it to you, he has strong hand.

Okay, what am I doing?

What am I handing you?

You got to slide over here.

Slide over to what?

My chair.

Why?

What are you touching?

Okay, back up.

What?

Don't do it.

What are you doing?

It's not going to hurt that bad.

How's a horse bite an apple?

What?

Oh, that thing where you just like, where you squeeze someone's knee.

The top of their knee and that two little spots that really hurt.

That's how I don't think that hurts.

I think that's tickly.

That's how a horse bites an apple.

Am I right, Sam?

I've never heard how's a horse bite an apple.

What is going on, St.

Louis?

St.

Louis.

St.

Louis, Matt.

Where I was raised.

Do we have horses that bite the apple?

Come on.

I don't know how to react to it.

Sam seems to have heard this.

Yeah, that made its way to Wisconsin.

Wisconsin has How's a Horse Bite an Apple?

Cody, where are you from?

Have you heard it?

I'm from here, but my grandma was from Kansas.

My grandpa's from Tennessee, and I've never heard that.

Thank you.

Okay, so Missouri, Kansas, and Tennessee, we don't know this horse bites an apple business.

Well, Texas.

This is Wisconsin.

This is based on a poll of four people, by the way.

We've declared things about major regions of the United States based on a four-person poll.

That seems to, I think that's kind of how polling is done, though.

Oh, let's not go there.

Okay.

Well, Charlie Horse is just when your muscle seizes up.

I know that, but I kind of felt like it was like one of those things where Michael gets it a little wrong.

Like he's like, Charlie Horse, but I was like, oh, did he mean how's a horse bite an apple?

But probably not because that's too many words.

And he had to cross the the whole room really quickly.

Well, Michael also gets Dwight to go over to accounting and dump their stuff all over the ground.

We had a fan question from Alan 3.

How many times did Stephen Rain mess up the accounting area?

Did they do it randomly or was it choreographed?

Angela, can you give us some insight?

We did it a few times.

And, you know, so every time Michael would say, okay, let's send up accounting, old-fashioned raid, sells on accounting.

They would come over, they dump all of our stuff on the floor.

I did love that Angela glares at Dwight like, don't even.

And so he sort of giggles and picks up one pencil and throws it on the floor of mine.

But yeah, we did that a few times and they were just really and truly just looked like Steve and Rain were having fun because they got to come over and mess with us.

And then, so after you shoot a scene like that and they mess up the area, they say cut.

Did the set decorators come over and reset everything?

They do because they want the continuity to match.

Yeah.

And, you know, obviously we would pick up stuff as well, but sometimes we we would get in the way like we would start to pick it up and they'd be like here let me set that because that is their job to make sure it looks exactly like it did before and i might not get it right so i remember sometimes before scenes like this our script supervisor veda she is the person who was in charge of continuity on the show she would come over and take a picture of the desk area as a reference point.

So they could match it each time.

Yes.

And then after it got all messed up, then Veda would come over with her computer and she'd be like, okay, so this is exactly where the cup was and this is where this was and everything.

And they would reset the whole thing to Veda's picture and then mess it up again.

Yes, Veda was amazing and she was so sweet and kind and soft-spoken.

And sometimes she would just walk up to you and be like, Angela, on the second line in the scene, you switched your coffee mug from your left hand to your right hand.

I'd be like, oh my God, did I?

I didn't even realize.

Yes.

So you have to do that every time now.

Yes, I remember that.

I remember that.

At eight minutes, 55 seconds, I'm calling this the fan catch of the day.

What is it?

It is by Bureau.

If you freeze and zoom in on Angela's computer,

you can see a post-it note that says, quote, Angela, can I have $5 petty cash to buy some more jelly beans?

I'll give you back any change.

Thanks, Pam.

Catch of the day.

That is fantastic.

I loved that.

I think I really wrote that post-it post-it note.

You probably did.

You probably passed it to me in the background because we were bored and I stuck it there.

So then Michael has a talking head about former manager Ed Truck.

And this has one of my favorite Michael quotes.

I told myself if I was ever manager, people would laugh when they saw me coming and applaud when I walked away.

Mission accomplished.

No way to go.

I just want to call out one scene, you guys.

I know we're jumping around a little, but it's one I absolutely love at nine minutes, 55 seconds.

It made me laugh so hard when Dwight is trying to be the 107th caller.

Yes!

To win a DVD box set of Jethro Tull.

Yes.

From Rock 107.

And he just keeps calling and Michael's pained expression and then Dwight trying to sneak the call, just all of it just cracked me up.

One of the fun dynamics about the Michael and Dwight relationship is that it gives Steve an opportunity to play the straight man.

Yeah.

And he's a very funny straight man.

And so a lot of times he's the funny guy.

And the rest of us are the straight man to Steve.

But I love this dynamic shift that happens with Michael and Dwight scenes.

I do too.

I want you to know I did a little bit of a deep dive for Rock 107.

I knew you would.

I almost did, but you know what I did instead?

What?

I listened to Jethro Tull.

Oh,

there you go.

I downloaded the greatest hits and listened to it.

And my daughter Isabel was like, what is that?

Well, they currently run contests via their freeloaders club.

And you can sign up with your email at rock107.com.

And they give away, quote, dozens of prizes each month.

Here's a list of things you can win.

Okay.

iPads, water park tickets, concert tickets, gas and grocery gifts, and snow tube passes, maybe for the Poconos?

Maybe.

Those are great gifts, though.

I know.

Way to go, Rock 107.

It seems like instead of doing these live contests on the air where you have to call in like Dwight did, you can just sign up with your email and you're automatically entered.

So just just giving a plug for that giveaway, Rock 107.

Way to go.

I have 10 minutes, 44 seconds.

Okay.

Pam and Roy are flirting at reception and Jim is watching her in the kitchen.

He tries to go to the annex, but he sees Kelly.

Then he goes to the bathroom.

With his coffee mug.

This is how trapped he is.

One way is Pam and Roy.

The other way it's Kelly chatty, chatty, chatty.

So he just walks in the bathroom with his coffee mug.

Yeah.

And later he can't eat in the lunchroom because Pam's sitting in there with Roy.

This leads to the deleted scene you were talking about.

Him eating alone in his car.

Yeah.

Poor Jim, guys.

Poor Jim.

Poor Jim.

So then at 11 minutes, seven seconds, Michael goes back to accounting and he's like, hey, guys.

And I'm really snarky.

This is like very Angela Martin snarky moment.

I'm like, we haven't finished getting things in order from your last visit.

And he's like, I'm just walking around.

And I go, were you?

Like, I'm so ticked off.

You're so mad.

Well, this is when Michael gets this big idea to host a sales contest.

Well, listen, because he says we're all there working for the weekend, but you know what?

He's working for the week.

That's what?

Working for the week.

He's working for the week and he wants the sales contest now.

And the prize is a $100 bill.

Not really.

He opens his wallet and he only has $83.

Wait, Jenna, before we get into the sales competition, I do have some journal entries from this.

When do you want them?

Do you want them now?

Do you want them lay us?

I say now.

Now?

Not lay us.

Okay.

Here's my journal entry for the carpet.

I was really excited.

I was like, I wrote this on January 26, 2006.

We got great news.

We're coming back for season three.

Is this the episode where we found out?

Yes.

Oh my gosh.

So we were so excited, all of us.

I don't know if you can tell in watching the episode, but we just found out we got another, a job for another year.

That is such, that's a fast fact, Angela, right there.

Oh, well, I liked your Game of Thrones thrones fast fact but there that i guess is a fast fact also i said that we're just so excited we're really proud of the show we're so excited to get a third year i said this week also we had a photographer from nbc taking official photos for the website for valentine's day i remember those photos these are sort of some iconic photos that are out there on the internet of like steve holding up a heart and kate flannery and you and me and phyllis all surrounding him yeah so there's some great valentine shot there's one of like dwight and i side by side.

I did some photos with David Denman as Roy.

So some Pam and Roy Valentine's shots as well.

And I also wrote, this was the first time the supporting cast were included in one of these big photo shoots.

And we were all so excited.

I remember that.

Because we weren't series regular the last time we did them, but now we were.

And we got to be in the pictures.

And I said, of course, I had the biggest zit since I've had since high school.

Yeah, that always happens.

They probably photoshopped it out.

I said, I hope they'll Photoshop it out.

See, look at that.

Like I said, I know.

Anyway, those are, oh, and then I wrote, and this is before, you know, obviously we ever knew we'd do this podcast.

We ever knew that we'd be tracking the Mindy of it all.

And this is what I wrote in 2006.

Okay, if you're a Kelly fan, you will love this episode.

And Mindy, who plays Kelly, does a great job.

Hey.

Even you knew.

Even something special is happening with the character of Kelly in the carpet.

2006, me knew that Kelly was maybe Kelly, was maybe maybe Mindy.

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All right, right, so back to the episode.

I have a continuity catch.

Okay.

At 12 minutes, 43 seconds, Roy and Daryl are removing Michael's carpet.

Okay.

They've got this rolled-up carpet on their shoulders and they make fun of his dancing.

But then at 13 minutes, 12 seconds, there's a shot of them through the blinds in Michael's office and they're having beers and they're kind of sleeping.

They're sleeping on the rolled-up carpet that they just removed.

They're using it as a headrest.

Yeah.

Well, there's a condutary catch.

Well, I unless, is that the new carpet they haven't put down yet?

I don't know, but there is a whole deleted scene of just Daryl and Roy just being idiots in that room.

There's a whole scene where they are drinking beers and they have two like rubber balls and they're bouncing them against the wall like they've got a game going.

Yeah.

So

there were things cut out of this episode of them messing around in there.

Well, I suppose it could be the carpet they haven't installed yet.

Maybe.

Maybe, Jenna.

At 13 minutes, 56 seconds, I declare Michael sass.

Michael sass.

Let's hear it.

Well, Pam says stopping the sales contest isn't fair.

I guess we should say Michael gets upset and he stops his sales contest.

No one can win $83 anymore.

He's just being a brat.

But Michael gives it right back to Pam.

Oh, yeah?

Yeah.

I didn't write down what he said, but you can look it up at 13 minutes, 56 seconds if you want.

That sort of takes the wind out of you.

It does.

I realized as I was looking at my sheet, I was like, wow, that was an incomplete.

I did not complete that question of my homework.

Well, I will say this.

My sister and I laughed, actually.

She's a school teacher.

She teaches pre-K.

And at 14 minutes, 26 seconds, Michael puts the whole office in timeout.

Oh, yes.

Oh, yes.

Anyway, okay.

So then we have the scene in the kitchen with Jim and Ryan, and Jim asks Ryan what he thinks of Kelly.

He's trying to help Kelly out because she's begged him.

Well, this also just shows where he's at in his day because at first he doesn't want to help her.

He's like, I'm not getting in the middle of those two.

And then by the end of the day, he's like, fine, I'll be your go-between because he doesn't have his buddy.

He doesn't have Pam to like help the day pass.

Well, we had a fan question.

Maddie W and Adrian both asked, whose idea was it for Kelly to have a crush on Ryan?

What do you think, Ange?

I think it was Mindy's.

I don't know.

I was going to text her, but she had the Oscars and she was presenting.

I didn't want to bug her.

Yeah, we were, we were prepping this episode the weekend of Oscars weekend, and Mindy was a presenter.

And can we talk for one second about how amazing she looked in her dress?

She looked amazing.

I actually did text her and BJ the next day, and I was like, You guys look so beautiful together.

Yeah.

And she wrote back, Ange, I love this.

Thank you.

Well, there you go.

Kelly and Ryan went to the Oscars together.

Well, they're very, very dear friends.

They're best friends.

They're best friends.

There were a lot of friendships that came out of our show.

There was our best friendship.

There was their best friendship.

Well, all of the guys still play fantasy football together.

That's true.

All the guys every year.

All right.

So, where are we at, Jenna?

So, next,

Michael talks to Creed about his fear of becoming Ed Truck.

Oh, this scene is so funny.

Creed made me laugh so hard in this scene.

Yeah.

He's like, Michael, you have a lot more to be worried about than that.

He's like, oh, great.

Thanks, Creed.

I guess being buried alive.

Why am I even talking to you?

And then we go outside and we meet Ed Truck.

And this scene, oh, it broke my heart because in the scene, Ed says, Michael, why can't your workers be your workers, your family be your family, and your friends be your friends?

And you can see they hold on Michael's face.

And you can see that the reason why is because he doesn't have friends and family.

He needs his workers to be all three things.

He doesn't have those compartments in his life.

He doesn't.

And it breaks your heart.

It breaks your heart for him.

Oh, well, speaking of heartbreak, 17 minutes, eight seconds.

So this is like cut in between Michael's talking head.

Jim is in the kitchen, which is kind of looks like Jim hung out in the kitchen all day.

I think he spent a lot of time in there.

Not only that, guys, but if you look at this episode, John didn't have very many lines.

This was not a tough like line count for him as far as like memory work.

All of his stuff was reacting for the most part in this episode.

So, but anyway, during Michael's talking head, we see Jim is in the the kitchen and he tries to wave goodbye to Pam.

Pam doesn't see it and just leaves.

And it's like the last just like wind out of his sails for the day.

She kind of leaves early.

She's got her big puffy coat on and everyone else is still working, but she sneaks out.

Yeah.

And what does he do after that?

He calls Brenda.

Oh, God, it's so desperate.

From Booz Cruise, the corporate liaison and asks her on a date.

And Kelly's, Kelly, Mindy's reactions as Kelly to this phone call were so fantastic.

So great.

He calls and asks her on a date, and then he's like, and you can just, you know, I got your number from the company directory.

And I guess you could get my number from the company directory.

Said directory.

Oh, what are you doing?

Or check your email because I just emailed you.

Okay, hope to hear from you.

Okay.

Yeah.

And Kelly's like, did you just ask a girl out over voicemail?

He's like, yep.

Michael's talking head in this episode.

He has a huge talking head that I love.

And I wrote it all down.

Here it is.

Last week, I would have given a kidney to anyone in the office.

I would have reached right into my stomach and pulled it out for them.

But now, no, I don't have the relationship with these people that I thought I did.

I hope they ask

so they can hear me say, oh, nope, I only give my organs to my real friends.

Go get yourself a monkey kidney.

Oh my God.

He's so mad.

He's so mad.

He's so hurt.

He feels so betrayed.

He really would have given them one of his organs.

You know, he would have.

Yeah.

He would have.

Now he's only going to give you a monkey kidney.

Poor Michael.

Poor Michael.

And then at 18 minutes, 20 seconds, guess who calls?

Todd Packer.

Todd Packer, did you get that package I left for you?

He's like, what package?

Did I get a package?

Anybody see a package?

Joy's like, do you mean the thing?

The thing in your office?

And Michael's delighted.

Oh, what a funny prank.

Oh, someone loves me.

They want to do jokes.

They want to poop on my floor.

It's so funny.

When Packer does it, it's a hilarious, funny prank.

No, when Packer does it, he says it 19 minutes, 13 seconds.

It was done out of love.

Just like I thought.

Which is not what he thought.

It's not what he thought.

But I do think he's so relieved that it was no one in the office.

Well, everything is right again, right?

His universe makes sense again.

This is my family.

They wouldn't do that.

It's just crazy Todd Packer.

Everything's okay.

Well, then can we talk about the sweetest of sweet moments?

Yes, I did write in my journal.

I said, guys, I don't want to give anything away, but this has one of the sweetest endings of an episode yet.

So this whole episode, we've given you no indication that Pam is clocking Jim in any way.

In any way.

But Jim walks to his desk.

He sees the little message light flashing and he plays his messages.

And Pam has left him seven voicemails

all about her day.

And clearly she's missing him and missing interacting with him.

Yeah.

And you see him kind of walk to his car as these messages play.

And his face.

Ah, he's so happy.

Yeah.

And everything is right in his world again.

And kind of everything is right in our world again, too, because I think as an audience member, it's funny.

I forgot about the voicemail messages.

when I was watching this.

Yeah.

And I was frustrated with Pam.

I was like, what is wrong with you this is your friend why are you being so coy i skied a little and then like

say hi to the guy i wasn't upset with pam because i feel like she's this is so complicated for her i mean i'm sure there's hills and valleys of her wanting to invest in roy and what they've built together and see it through and then there's all these overwhelming feelings of like but i don't think he's the right person but we've been together so long like it's and then when she sees jim she's it's like holding up a mirror to herself but you're telling me she didn't miss him on the vacation.

Yes, but admitting to missing him is admitting to this emotional affair and she's not there yet.

She's not there yet, but these messages meant the world to me as a viewer when I was watching it.

Yes.

I was like, yes, thank you.

Thank you.

And also, guys, once again, I feel like Michael and Jim had a parallel storyline

where they sort of lose the thing they love, which is for Michael, the acceptance of the office, his friends.

For Jim, it's Pam.

But But then in the end, it's all okay.

It's going to be okay.

Yeah.

No.

Aw, that's the carpet.

That's the carpet, everybody.

I have a question.

I want to throw it out there.

Angela, do we need to start a second podcast where I re-watch Game of Thrones and we discuss

office ladies do Game of Thrones?

Oh my gosh, I would love that so much.

I mean, does anyone want to hear that?

Does anyone want to hear me listen to Game of Thrones, though?

There might be some

diehard Game of Thrones fans will be like, no, you guys are gonna, you're gonna ruin it.

All right, next week we're gonna do Boys and Girls, which is a very exciting episode for Angela and I will tell you all about how we had a hand in creating this episode.

Yes, see you next week.

See you next week.

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