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I told you we'd be back, and I told you we would not be alone, but this time I have not only brought with me the railroad man himself, Mr.

Yuri Lowenthal, from actually in the temple of those who sleep beneath my cohort, my Edgar Allan Hoe, my absolute mistress of the darkness.

We are joined by Cam Collins.

Cam, how are you?

Doing good.

Hello, family.

And as if that weren't enough, as if that weren't enough old God's lusciousness, if that weren't enough pudding in your cup, I have with me Jerry Brotherton, the retired judge himself, Corey, the buttercream dream forester.

Corey, how are you doing today, brother?

Well, Heidi, I'm very glad to be here.

It's nice hearing this, such a familiar voice actually introduce me.

I feel honored.

I feel blessed.

I feel humbled.

I feel not worthy.

Well, you are someone who knows something about pudding cups.

Yes, I do.

We told y'all.

Oh, you listened to my album.

That's so sweet.

I did.

I did.

Oh, my God.

I just now got that.

I'm a little stoned.

Hey, hey, that's fine.

No judgment.

I understand dealing with the old gods does require some substance sometimes.

You have to kind of go into it.

Family, if you have listened to season two, and this is your last chance to turn back right now, we are going to be neck deep in season two spoilers.

We are holding nothing back.

It's been since July that we dropped the finale.

And this material you're getting between now and our new story releases is pretty much spoiler zones.

So if you have not listened to The Siege of Pleasant evenings, a bad night for Halloween,

Charcoal Soup, and all any of the railroad man and local magistrate arc, we're going to be talking about it like it's family history.

So just be aware.

You got about three, two,

one, and we're in the spoiler zone now.

So

gentlemen, Corey, we talked to Yuri a little bit so he can chill out for a second.

And I would like to point out, if you are not seeing the video of this and patrons may be seeing the video of this, Corey and Yuri are both wearing the Railroad Man shirts designed by the Railroad Stand.

Pose for me, boys.

Let me get a screenshot of that at least, if nothing else.

Hang on.

I would say, give me a Young Bucks pose, but I'm not sure that you both know what that means.

Just get the art.

All right, just flex.

There we go.

All right, hang on.

And

captured.

Excellent.

Amazing.

Beautiful.

Wonderful.

That shirt, of course, designed by the Railroad Stand.

Available over at the T-Public store of Old Gods of Appalachia for a reasonable sum.

Corey, how did you come to his family?

Like,

I know Yuri crept up on us in the dark of night, and I didn't know who he was for the longest time.

And I knew of you vaguely through Drew Morgan and through Trey Crowder.

I was actually at a wedding with Drew Morgan, which he barely remembers.

But

how did you find your way to the family?

Y'all are one of, there's been about

five or six things over the past several years that I just get repeatedly

mentioned in on Twitter.

Like I get tagged and shit.

And for so long, old gods of Appalachia, old gods of Appalachia, old gods of Appalachia.

And that appealed to me, but I was like, I wasn't super into podcasts at the time.

I'm not even sure that we were doing one ourselves.

We weren't yet told that comedians were legally required to have a podcast.

So before they put me in prison for that, you know.

But I just kept getting tagged in it.

And I want to say that it was just one thing where I was like, yeah, okay, right on.

Of course, I'll check it out.

And then Drew Morgan's wife, Andy, we were, I think, I want to say we were in Denver hanging out, you know, having a Denver time.

And I heard it come out of her mouth.

And I was like, oh, wait,

you listen to that?

And she's like, yeah.

And I was like, okay, well, not that I don't trust the opinion of a random stranger on the internet.

Sure, sure.

But now that you've said it and

now that you've said it and you're someone I love, I will check it out.

And I can't tell you how many years ago that was, but it's just one of them things that it became it as far as Appalachian recommendations it became one of those things that well 50 million Elvis fans can't be wrong you know

well I remember just one because like we get we need to turn our Twitter DMs off we we've been talking about doing this forever and just listing the email address

but you had sent us a Twitter DM and I think you were pretty high when you sent it I'm not sure

but you were you were just like if y'all ever want any free voice work I like to get high and go in the woods and listen to your podcast and creep myself out it was like no, no filter, just like straight, I get high as shit and listen to your podcast.

And I was like, okay.

And I checked him, oh, he's like with these guys.

Okay.

And I said, we'll keep that in mind.

And literally, when I started putting together the cast for this, I'm like, I'm going to go check out Buttercream Dream and see.

And that's when you had, like, two days before Leslie Jones had retweeted you into the stratosphere.

And I'm like, hey, how about that free voice work now there, cousin?

How about that free voice work now, motherfucker?

Now he's worth our time.

No, I'm kidding.

The price of the brick has increased.

Unfortunately, for some people,

I tend to talk to everyone the same, whether you're the preacher or whether you're my best friend of 30 years.

So if what I want to say is, man, I get fucked up and listen to your shit in the woods.

That's what I'm probably going to say.

And we're for that.

Yeah, and yeah, and I could tell.

See, that's the thing.

That's how I knew you truly were family.

I was like, I can talk to this guy like this.

That's no problem.

But yeah, man,

I'm so glad that you hollered back because that was not only me loving your podcast.

That's also me being, I'm not, that was pretty much the first

actual voice character work I've ever done.

Whoa.

Ever.

I mean, I've done like, I've had to use my voice for certain things, but never like, oh, this is a completely different person.

And so that was me just being like, I want to get into this.

I don't know how.

I like the stories they're telling.

I could probably fit into that world.

I'm shooting my damn shot.

No, absolutely.

And I want to compliment you.

Thank you.

I want to compliment you, and I'll let Yuri say his piece about you here in a second.

But, like, you

following a tradition here at Old Gods.

Betsy Puckett, who played Granny White and Build Mama a Coffin, available exclusively on Patreon, patreon.com/slash old gods of Appalachia.

She is a known comedic actress in the Asheville, Western North Carolina area.

If you ever rode the Lazoom comedy bus in this town and there was a crazy waitress lady screaming at you and putting you in your place, that's Betsy Puckett.

And she was the leader of a comedy troupe called Lilas.

It was an all-all-woman comedy troupe here in Asheville.

It's very funny if you were from Asheville, kind of.

It's very Asheville-centric humor.

Great, but a great friend of mine, my sister hosted the moth.

You know, the yen to my yang, the drawl to my twang.

I host one month, she hosts the other.

And when she took on the role of, that was her first villain, and she did things with it that were absolutely unnatural.

And I mean, she's terrifying.

You, my friend, took on a character who very easily, who in my head at first was kind of like a cocky, cock-of-the-walk, you know, daddy's boy who, you know, could do no wrong.

And you made him softer

and

vulnerable.

And like, you still hated him for his privilege, but at the same time, you couldn't blame him.

You felt bad.

Well, it's funny that you say that about being cocky, cock of the walk.

Like, when I hear,

I don't know, like, I see that some people, when they read the descriptor of, like, oh, this got his daddy's money, you know, he maybe when he was 20, he was like that, but I don't know, man.

Like, I just was like, I know this piece of shit, you know what I mean?

I was like, and so his voice was like an amalgamation of three dudes that I know in my life who kind of fit this description.

But, like,

I don't know.

I think Jerry Brotherton probably thinks all the things that you just said about him, but I don't think that it comes out that way to anyone who knows shit.

Yeah.

Yeah,

I agree.

I mean, you already won by, you know, having thought about it.

Honestly.

Well, I was scared you were on this show.

I was like, I got to work.

Oh, so, so, so I helped you get there.

So, so, so, so you're welcome.

Um,

well, that, well, that goes both ways.

Um,

because as soon as I heard that you were going to be on it, that's when I'm like, wait, I got to, I got to find out a little more about this guy.

And that's why I've listened to your record.

And that's what, because,

you know, it,

because you're great.

And that's when I started, you know, finding your videos on Twitter and passing those around.

And

it filled, I don't know,

I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but it filled a hole for me

that I didn't know needed filling.

So thanks for filling my hole, Corey.

Cam, I know you've been, Cam's been hugely complimentary of your performance, have you not there?

Oh, I have.

You've done a fantastic job.

Yeah, you definitely, I agree, turned what, you know, was originally intended as more of sort of this, you know, cocky little asshole into, well,

kind of, kind of the way we tend to view George W.

Bush these days is a spoiler.

But without the genocide.

Without the genocide.

Right, right.

Although Jerry Brotherson tried, you know, I mean.

He tried.

He's just

a lot of people buried in that mountain.

Yeah.

This is so interesting to me because, like, recently in my life, I've, I've, you know, in the past five years at least, I've gotten to be friends with more actors, and I would talk to them about their craft, and they would talk about making choices and all this stuff.

They're like, oh, yeah, you know, when I was doing this, that was actually my idea.

And I was always someone just from a writing and performing background.

It was like, oh, yeah, it's whatever's on the page, that's what they do.

So it's so interesting to now finally be a part of that where you're like, actually, I wrote this and I didn't envision it like that at all, but that's how you interpreted it.

And that's how you went with it.

And now I'm super happy because you easily could have been like, yo, this ain't it.

So that's, that's so, that's so bizarre to me that, like, in your mind, it was completely different.

That's crazy.

For me, it wasn't radically different, but just like, you just took him.

Like, there's a moment.

Like, I was, uh, I was, I was actually talking to my wife about this interview coming up, and I'm like, there's just this moment that Corey takes it when the railroad man comes back, and you kind of see,

even though he has been introspective and understands, like, you know, I can't do that awful, awful stuff my daddy had me doing for money or glory or whatever, but like, at least I, you know, now I'm down here and I'm in my little town.

I can't, I'm not doing no harm whatsoever.

And here still, I managed to sell my soul.

And the moment you, you did the one-line read, I don't know how many takes you got because I only got one.

When you said,

so you're the devil then.

And I was just like, this is how limited this little man's view is of just like, you know, the world and and God and everybody is just like, so he assumed, like, I've been bad enough that I done screwed up so hard that I done sold my soul to the devil.

And, well, here we, just that moment, I'm like, there's the performance right there.

Well, thank you.

But the dialogue ahead of that actually informed my decision to say it like that because

if I'm correct, right after I say that, the railroad man, Yuri, goes on this diatribe about how small-minded I am to think that the devil of the Bible would be doing all this shit.

And so I read that

forward and I was like, okay, be stupid.

Be even dumber.

You know what I mean?

So, yeah, so, so, so, points also for reading other people's dialogue.

Oh, for sure.

A lot of actors would have just gone to their line and read their dialogue.

Well, I got to tell you, if

it's very possible that if

someone had just asked me to do them a favor and this wasn't a show I cared about, that I might have done that.

I would like to think that I wouldn't, but I may have gotten in a hurry and been like, I got this or whatever.

But like,

I know I know and respect so many people that listen to this podcast that I was like, no, dude, like, you know, this is something that you're not a professional at, so you're going to probably have to try even harder.

But, like, you know, leave it all out there and any cheat code you can think of, you know, try that.

So if it means reading it backwards, do that.

You know.

for the record, Yuri Lowenthal is the only professional voice actor to ever be on Gods of Appalachia.

We're all professionals now.

That's how good your writing is, by the way, because I would have never guessed that.

Yeah.

Especially with those last couple episodes.

Last couple episodes where we worked our asses off on those.

It was so good.

Kim, what did we come out to at one point?

Like 900?

9,999.

And we're like, okay,

we we can't touch it but then of course we we had to so it was like oh well

but yeah we wanted it to be at that we're like yes this is perfect now can i jump in real quick with uh with the story about when i got high and listened to your show um just for a second because because i don't really get high because i

it's something that i you know i'll try every now and then and it never really quite works for me it's like i get all the all the stuff that i that i don't want all the anxiety i get all the anxiety i get the dry mouth I get the um my my time gets all fucked up like every second seems like a year um which you know under certain circumstances would be great but uh and so the last time that I tried this and this is an embarrassing story I've never told in public before but I you know I feel like I'm I'm amongst family so I

I was out in my office late one night and I'm like, I'm just going to take some time to myself.

And I'm like, oh my God, my friend gave me some pot cookies that he baked a while ago.

Oh, look, I just edibles too.

Yeah, so it's edibles.

And

I, you know, I just, they were in the Ziploc bag, and I had thrown them on my shelf for, you know, another day and forgot about them.

And I'm like, well, he said they were really strong, so I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna have a little bit.

Maybe I'll have like a third of this cookie.

And I ate it, and I knew it was going to take a little while to settle in.

So I was just waiting.

Just waiting.

And then

it finally kicked in

and then a second after the high kicked in the food poisoning kicked in because I had because those cookies were like two years old I don't know what the fuck I was thinking eating two-year-old cookies off a bookshelf oh no and and so I'm like oh no oh no this is like the worst feeling in the world and every second is lasting a year

so so I started to panic oh no and I'm like you know what I need to do?

I need to focus.

I need to focus and I'm just going to get through this.

And I hate being punished for, you know, something that I wanted to do nice for myself, but I just got to get through this.

So I put on an episode of the show

and I'm just like, I'm just going to, I'm just going to sit here on the couch and I'm just going to listen to the show.

And I'm like,

and the food poisoning got worse.

And so I felt poisoned.

And I felt like I had been listening to the show for six years.

I'm like, how is it possible?

I'm still in this same episode.

Something's wrong.

And that's what I texted my wife in the house.

And I'm like, hey, how's it going?

She's like, hey, I'm just about to go to sleep.

And I'm like, yeah, so

here's what I just did.

She's like, she's like, honey, do you want me to come out there?

I'm like, yes, please.

Will you be my shepherd for the next however many hours it's going to take me to get through this?

And I felt like such an asshole because every time I'm like, and and the the memory thing I lose my short-term memory and I can't remember how long I've you know I've been like this and all my friends who always want me to get high and watch a movie with them because I'm a Xenophile

I finally had to stop doing that because I couldn't enjoy the movie because after a minute I couldn't remember what had happened a minute ago in the movie and I enjoy movies too much so I don't know

I just have to I think I still have to dial it in but

I'm out of it for a little while.

I fucked that when I'm good.

For the record, aside from the food poisoning part, all that bullshit happens to me too.

I've just finally found the teeniest, tiniest dose that I can take to where it's gonna be okay.

But still, even that teeny, tiny dose on some days can still decide, hey, I'm gonna ruin your entire life, and you're gonna be in the woods, and it's gonna kick in, and you're gonna be listening to old gods, and all of a sudden, the ground's gonna look like nothing but snakes because you're just so paranoid that you're like, I know it's snakes, it's snakes everywhere, and I can't imagine coupling that with life-shattering diarrhea.

And I also love that the first thing you thought of when all that was going on was like, this reminds me of old God's Apple.

I need to go.

That'll get me through.

I think, yeah, that'll get me through.

What was I thinking?

Those snakes, you know, when you saw the ground turn to snakes, that probably was actually the show and not whatever you hit.

That's a feature, not a bug.

Yeah, for sure.

Pretty much.

That's just, that's what's going on there.

All right.

So now that we've all outed our drug use, which, by the way, I don't use drugs.

Thank you very much.

I will trade Edge.

Trade Edge!

I should have done the exercise.

That's not trade Edge.

I enjoy it.

I almost had me a Boojum Brewery Oktoberfest in here.

Corey, I do fear for my life when you come to Asheville finally and the world's able to travel again because I've seen the pictures of you on tour, and I think you may kill me if I come hang out.

It's getting out of hand.

I've got to rein it back.

I'm not going to lie.

I'd been doing so much better in life during the pandemic.

Of course, I was just at my house all the time.

And then as soon as we, man, just immediately back up to our, not all our old tricks.

You know, we're not, we're still trying to stay away from most people.

But yeah, you're, yes, I may kill you.

Yeah.

I'd like a ticket to that.

particular batch of shenanigans someday.

I would say

that's it.

So Bristol has a new comedy club that just opened, and you need to come here now because Bristol has the primary benefit of being right off the interstate, so it's on the way to everywhere else.

That's the only reason we get any new shows here.

I just passed it.

No, I just passed it yesterday, and actually, as a matter of fact, my manager sent me a link to that.

She's from California before, to inform what I'm about to say is only barely offensive.

She said

she sent me a link to that new comedy club, and she goes, is fucking Bristol even anything worth something?

And I was like,

And she was meaning it sincerely, like, hey, you're from Rounding Parks, you know.

Like, and I go,

I was like, Absolutely, anywhere that is driving distance from me is I will fantastic.

And people are used to pulling off the interstate for races or strip clubs or whatever is, you know, whatever happens to be in Bristol.

I did tell you that the Gray Ballet

is returning.

Did I not?

Oh, my Lord.

The

Gray Ballet is the, so in Gray, Tennessee, there was a strip club called The Mouse's Ear.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, really?

Yeah.

I'm going to tell you right now, I am sex and kink positive.

I am.

I am.

But you were traumatized.

We are pro-sex work.

We are pro-yes.

The one and only strip club story I ever, I have, my best friend at the time got married, and his, and he is a, was a big weightlifting UFC type guy.

So his, his non-hardcore band buddies all insisted we go to the strip club.

Nobody informed us it was full nude before we walked in.

So, like when you walk in and there's like full bits, like right there, like platform level, nobody's ready for that without anticipation.

And I was like, what year was that?

I was like, maybe 24, 25.

And the, yeah, it was like, what, 2003, maybe?

Maybe.

All the women were beautiful.

Place was complete, was just a complete like sticky bottom of a, of an unwashed glass was kind of the sanitary nature of the place.

But

by sitting beside my best friend, it was just like

I got every lap dance he got, I sort of got by proxy.

And it was just like, and I just felt like a creep because I'm like, can I just write you a check?

Like, you don't want me to touch you.

Honey, I don't want to touch you.

Like, you're beautiful.

This is lovely.

But like, I, this is not for me.

And bless all the workers out there.

Bless all the dancers out there.

Y'all are doing amazing work.

You are artists.

Validate all the hell.

But like at that point in my life, I was just like, I feel like I'm doing somebody wrong by existing in this space.

And

the one girl who got the, who kept giving the, we kept getting brought over to lap dance for my buddy Josh was just like discussing his wedding with him through the entire time.

So what are your colors?

You know, straddling his lap, you know, bending over.

So where's your reception?

You know, it's just like, it was polite and it was businesslike and like, and it was hilarious because if if you, you don't know my buddy, but like him presenting that situation was like asking a deacon, not a deacon, because Josh is no deacon, but he was just tongue to, uh,

I guess it's blush and bashful.

I don't know, you know, like there's a reference for you.

But yeah, so,

yeah, so Bristol is shit.

We'll say that it is worth fucking with.

And it's only an hour and a half from me, if that.

So, like, you know.

Yeah, it's, it's close and it's on the way to everywhere else.

That's something to do, like a side gig on your way into doing like one of your all's like multiple night stands in Asheville or something.

Yeah, for sure.

Honestly, that's probably exactly how that'll end up being routed, if I had to guess.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And Asheville has the orange peel of which the well-read comics are

kings, pretty much.

Very familiar of the orange peel.

Last time we did it, though,

obviously pre-all this mess, I remember they had just gotten, they were bragging to us about how they just got a air conditioner and a new one, you know, I assume they had, but they were like, yeah, you know, it's going to be better in here.

We got a new air conditioner.

When we get there, and

I go in to do the sound check, and it is one of the hot, it was in June, and it's so hot in there.

Like, it's so hot.

And I was like, I thought y'all got a new air conditioner.

And they're like, oh, we did, but

we just hadn't turned it on yet.

And I was like, I was like, well,

I'm going to need you to do that shit.

I'm going to need you to do that.

And they were just like,

and they were like, all right, we'll get around to it.

And then finally, before the show, like it happened, I was like, are y'all going to turn the air conditioner on?

They're like, oh, yeah,

the boss ain't here, and he's the only one that can, you know, authorize that.

And I go, I just told him, I said, dude, listen, here's the deal.

I love y'all.

I love this place.

I'm always going to come back.

But either that air conditioner is getting turned on or I'm performing in my underwear.

And I performed in my underwear.

I did the whole show completely just in my underwear.

But I loved it.

It was a great time.

But yeah, yes, Orange Peel, tremendous place.

They now, I've been told, turn on the air conditioner.

Yeah.

And the Orange Pills just sweep, like Rolling Stone called it one of the best rock clubs in the country.

It's awesome.

Yeah.

Like that's where if you're not playing the Civic Auditorium for like a big or the U.S.

cellular, no, I guess it's the Hannah's Casino Center, which is like the big concert venue for the city.

The Orange Pills holds a thousand people.

That's where like, you know, like if you want to see, it's where if you see the Mountain Goats, you know, I'm always drunk, I'm always name-dropping John and the Mountain Goats.

But

it's sad because the Mountain Goats used to play at the Gray Eagle, which is a club that holds like 300 tops, I think maybe, if that, and shows with bands you love there or comics you love there.

I saw Todd Berry there.

I bet that was awesome.

Oh, yeah, no, that was totally good.

That's where my joke that I use, that Asheville is white people with dreadlocks and white people without dreadlocks living together in harmony.

That's totally a Todd Berry joke.

That's totally great.

He's like, this seems like the kind of town where it'd be really easy to get laid if you're like a Swami.

Like, you know, like he was like,

that is accurate.

That is very accurate.

Yoda Yoko.

Yeah.

But anyway, now that we've talked all kinds of trash about strip clubs, Swamis, other comedians, and Corey in his underwear.

I'm never talking trash about that.

No, never.

Never.

It's a beautiful, it's a beautiful wave of white noise.

Yeah.

So

I guess we'll ask the question

that I planned on asking at the end, but I'm going to ask it now.

If we wanted to have y'all back, would y'all come back?

If not at the same time.

Without question.

Well, of course.

Maybe even.

I don't think Yuri can do a different character, frankly, but uh, I think since Jerry Brotherton, I don't think we need to do a prequel of Jerry Brotherton, but I would love, yeah, I actually told Drew Morgan a year ago I'd write something for him, and I never have.

Um, that's okay, it's just I'll do his thing,

and I want to have Drew.

I mean, like, yeah, because like, you know, I love y'all, and I love y'all's audience, and I would love to make my audience

and vice versa.

Um, but yeah, so I should just have it, I just should just write a three Stooges S storyline for you, Drew, and Trey just go on a spooky adventure and one by one get picked off by like a swamp witch or something.

That would be so tremendous, and we would definitely be in.

And I know I'm playing Curly, and fuck you for that.

The Bell Witch.

It's got to be the Bell Witch, though.

We actually all three do look exactly.

Like, I look like Curly, Trey looks like

Shimp or Mo, and Drew has the Larry thing going on.

It actually is kind of.

Oh, my gosh.

That's that you know I mean redhead.

No, I can't

even see Drew's starting to lose his hair but he's keeping it on the sides just like I'm telling you dude

it's gonna happen.

It's gonna happen.

So let me ask you this and we'll have some fun here because I like to recommend things.

What is something I doesn't have to be spooky or scary?

I know

our family loves good horror stuff, but

what is something that you're watching, reading, or have seen in the last little bit that you would recommend to somebody else?

Well,

I'll do a new thing that I'm watching that's new to everyone and a thing that has,

much like Old Gods of Appalachia, was recommended to me for so long, and for some reason I put it off, and I feel like an idiot for doing so.

The thing I'm currently watching that I, this almost goes without saying, it's Ted Lasso, for God's sakes.

It's so good.

It's the most surprised I've ever been at a show because

cynically, I just see this, and I'm like, I knew that it was, I'd seen the commercials, and I'm like, they're gonna, wait, hold on.

The commercials were one thing, but a whole television show based on a dude who goes to coach soccer that's never coached soccer.

I'm like, I know it's Jason Sudekis, but even still, then I watched the first episode, realized, oh, wait, Bill Lawrence did it?

No shit.

And it's just, it's just so tremendous.

It's got,

when I first started hearing about, oh, a comedy, it's a comedy with heart.

That used to always make me mad because I used to always be like, no, everything has to be always sunny.

There should be no love, no point, all deviousness, all crackheads.

And now I find myself going, Am I crying at this comedy right now?

And I love it so much.

And the old thing that I've just recently discovered, because now that this past couple of years, we've been spending a lot more time at home, I've been like, okay, finally the wire.

But is justified, and which I'm sure that everybody in your audience has listened to.

But I just needed to apologize to everybody for being so late to the justified train.

It is absolutely amazing.

I've never been more upset that

I wasn't able to be a part of something.

It just pisses me off.

It's just tremendous.

I will add on to your Justified thing, though, because I just posted this song on our Twitter the day.

If you are into You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive,

ignore the Brad Paisley version and go listen to the Daryl Scott version that I posted.

Oh, the Daryl Scott, yeah.

Because he wrote it.

I mean, it's his song.

And he apparently fought long and hard to get the rights back for that song.

And

a lot of his songs.

He wrote, if you go listen to so many Dixie Chick songs he wrote.

Well, Travis Tritt.

Travis Tritt, Take Day to Be Alive.

He has a verse that they took out of Travis Tritt's fourth verse, which I really like.

I love Daryl Scott.

Yeah, Daryl Scott's an amazing, amazing singer-songwriter.

And the version I tweeted of the transatlantic sessions where they're doing Never Left Harlow Alive with like a squeeze box and two gospel vote, two women gospel vocalists, and just like everybody in that moment, in that session, is feeling that song.

Yeah, that's that's that.

and Daryl Scott and John Charles Dwyer, who is from here in Asheville, those have been that's been my playlist for the past little bit.

But anyway, I'll get to my recommendations.

Cam, you have something that you're watching and enjoying?

Well, I've been listening to

new, well, I don't know if it's new.

Anyway, the pod, I think it's newer.

One of theirs, the Wondery Podcast Suspect.

Okay.

Which is really, it's really interesting because a lot, I love true crime stuff.

And

there there was somebody i was i can't i'm i'm so sorry if you're if you are a listener and not a random person that i don't remember who it was but uh somebody you know was tweeting about you know i really love true crime but i really i want to find something that's not just cop worship

basically and i and you know of course you know i was like you should make that podcast I would love that podcast and I would listen to it.

And now I started listening to Suspect and Suspect is very much,

it starts out just talking about this case where an actual pretty classic whodunit

girl was murdered after a party and it was like an apartment complex wide party so tons of suspects people in and out of each other's apartments all night long

but and it but it actually talks about for one

uh the problems with trace DNA touch DNA which is like the skin cells uh skin cells and things like that that can actually be really easily transferred.

They're not as conclusive as

juries may sometimes be led to believe.

And you also have like racism and classism also factor.

The first suspect that they looked at, who seemed a lot more likely.

Of course, you know, his family got him a lawyer and suddenly they start looking at somebody else, which really seems like, oh, you're going for the low-hanging fruit.

It's a poor black kid, only black man at the party, no lawyer.

I mean, it's, it was, uh, so it is, it's actually very critical of the, of the process, even though they are, they're very polite.

They actually manage to get the prosecutors and the police to talk to them and, you know, be in interviews, which is not always the case.

If they think you're going to be critical, sometimes they are not willing.

But yeah, it's actually

on podcast interviews for the record.

So, yeah, it's been, it's been a, it's been a really, really good show.

All right.

Yuri Lowenthal, what is something you're listening to, watching, enjoying right now?

That's going to segue right really well into mine, which is that new Steve Martin, Martin Short show,

Only Murders in the Building.

I've seen one episode and I'm in.

I'm in.

It's so great.

And it only gets better from the, like, I mean, it's a really interesting, like,

I find it hard to think of any other show that's doing it or has done exactly what they're doing.

It's lovingly done.

There is such.

and I'm iffy on Martin Short.

Martin Short did Jiminy Glick, that fat suit bullshit that he did in the late 90s and just grossed me out, turned me off to him entirely.

When you put him and Steve Martin together, because they're such good friends,

and you take Steve Martin's, something that he always brings to his projects, which is like this

like magical realism.

Like every now and then, something really weird happens, but it's just accepted as part of the world.

And I think that's something that he's bringing to this, and it's working really well for me.

And if you love true crime podcasts, it is totally.

Yeah, it is.

Yeah, it is.

That

and another Hulu show.

I've been all over Hulu for some reason lately.

Reservation Dogs is awesome.

You just took one of my recommendations.

I saw the pilot and I really enjoyed it.

Reservation Dogs is one of the best things on television right now.

My wife was trying to get me to watch it for a hot minute and I'm like, I'm not in the right mood.

I'm not in the right space.

Then I found out who the executive producers are and I was just like, oh, Tyco, right?

Yep.

Title Wave TD.

Yeah, what can he not do?

Brilliant.

Yeah, yeah, and

insane.

And yeah, we're several, several, and there's some magical realism that's happening later in it and featuring Tannis from Letterkinney.

Forgive me for not knowing that actress's name.

It's escaping me at the moment.

But it is.

Letter Kenny.

Yeah, Letter Kenny.

Letter Kenny, which had so much promise.

And then.

That's another one of those old God of Appalachia things for me where, but I haven't, I only watched the pilot and I did like it, but like, I cannot tell you the amount of times a day someone's like, have you seen Letter Kenny?

Have you seen Letter Kenny?

Yeah,

I'm really interested in what happened with those dudes because they went from being like super left

calling out a lot of problematic shit in that style of sketch comedy to like almost inverting themselves by the last season.

I haven't seen it.

To where, like, where the main character is arguing why he should be able to use the word gay however he wants.

And like they start, like they start taking kind of snowball jabs at people.

And I don't, and if it's supposed to be ironic, it was a lot.

I stopped watching because honestly, it became a lot of the same jokes just beating.

But the first three or four seasons are brilliant.

I mean, they're hilarious and whatever.

I'm going to be boring and say that the current season of American Horror Story has an interesting premise.

They're finally doing vampires.

They had to get around to it.

They had to.

And

so the concept is this: Vampirism is caused by a drug.

And it's a drug that boosts creativity, but only if you already have talent.

If you don't have talent, you basically turn into like, you know,

a soulless sort of monster vampire.

But if you do, you still have to kill people and drink their blood and stuff.

You just, you know, are under control.

So

the Torreador are the dominant clan, is what you're saying.

saying yes the toreador

are the dominant clan uh but yeah this whole the whole concept of you know creatives as vampires is

i it's it's different i mean it's been pretty interesting and it's also i i'm i'm iffy about the show sometimes there are seasons i have not loved but so far i'm like all right

I'm following.

We all true.

The only creative vampires exist in Los Angeles.

We all know this.

This is like a thing.

We needed an additional form of representation from our agency.

So I texted our agent.

I'm like, hey,

could you go dig up like a literary vampire from the crypt for me that I could talk to to answer some questions?

Yeah, just pitch them on up.

Bring Pete.

Oh, oh, oh.

Season three of What We Do in the Shadows is out.

Oh, yeah.

Just

and also Wellington Paranormal, that's sort of the off spin or the offshoot on HBO Max.

Yeah, no, Wellington Paranormal is basically the movie world.

It's all the same universe, but it's New Zealand movie world of what we do in the shadow and it's cops.

Yeah, like it's the show cops,

and they're the two of the most lovely, stupid human beings.

And what's funny to me is that for us, the New Zealand accent is part of the joke, just the way they say things.

So, I'm just really curious how that show plays in New Zealand, because that's where it was imported from there.

Yeah, it came out after the movie came out, but it's just like, you know, it's just, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's really,

again, Taka doing the wonderful, wonderful,

yeah, he's doing the Lord's work.

No, yeah, I mean, yeah, and the fact that we're starting to see throwbacks to the movie on Wellington,

aka Nick the Douchebag Vampire,

is

truly, truly, truly magical as far as that goes.

All right, so family, we are going to, we're near the end of our time.

So, before we go, though, do y'all have anything you want to plug or upcoming dates?

Yeah, I'd love to plug.

I did a sci-fi show a couple years ago, I guess almost three years ago now, for Legendary Digital.

They had a platform called Project Alpha, and they were looking for content.

And we pitched them a show that was going to, it was a sci-fi show, a weekly sci-fi show, but we perform it live every week, you know, and

all the special effects are live.

The music was performed live by a band on the stage while we were doing the show.

Like, it was the highest tightrope I'd ever walked in my life.

And then to make it even more complicated, because it was a live show and it was on this sort of Twitch-type platform that Legendary was trying to do,

people who were watching the show in real time could vote on ways the story would go.

So we'd have to prepare branching storylines and sort of make up our mind on the fly.

It was

what level, how, why?

That is

why, who said this was okay?

Duty to mind her, is what she did.

But the show is called Orbital Redux.

And what we did is we took all the footage from those live shows and we cut together the episodes.

We said, look, if these episodes stand on their own without the gimmick of it being live, we'll find a new home for them.

Because a lot of people didn't get to see the show because of the platform that it was on, nobody knew about, and then it went away.

And we did it, and the episodes turned out great.

And so we found a home on Dust.

which is, for those who don't know Dust and most people don't, it's a sci-fi, you know, aggregator site.

It's a like sort of like what Shudder is to horror.

Dust is, you know, you can download the app or you can go to their YouTube or you can just go to watchdust.tv, look for the show Orbital Redux.

It's eight episodes.

You can binge it in two and a half hours or you can spread it out as you see fit.

And all I ask is that as you're watching the show, just remember when we were first doing that, we were doing it live.

But I'm so proud of it.

Go watch Orbital Redux.

Orbital Redux on Dust.

Corey, what about you?

You know, I'm on tour.

Well read.

You can go to wellreadcomedy.com.

W-E-L-L-R-E-D comedy.com.

It's a pun.

And we're going to be, I mean, you know, we're rounding out the year with my favorite show that I would really love to plug just because I assume you have a lot of family members here on the podcast in Nashville, Tennessee.

December 16th through 19th, we do our special Christmas shows.

They're the funnest shows.

And I was also just informed yesterday that like three of the five shows for December are already almost sold out.

So, get those tickets.

And other than that, just I got so I've got so many things that I can't wait in a month to talk to you about, but I can't say them right now.

So, just if you follow me on Twitter, you'll know about them.

I'm really having a great time doing a lot of different things, writing some things, saying some things into a camera, that whole lot, you know.

So, yeah, man, you know, just nothing.

Nothing.

Nothing until I can tell you in three months.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

So, we encourage our family to stay tuned.

Old Gods has a ton of content coming very soon, hopefully, unless the world, the Lord comes or the Creek rises or both happen at once, which has been known to happen around these parts.

So I appreciate y'all.

Yuri, Corey,

y'all made season two something new.

You really did.

Thank you so much for being part of this.

It was a pleasure.

Thank y'all for having me.

And Yuri, it was an honor.

My goodness,

I'm not worthy, as they say.

That goes both ways.

I'll take it just because I'm older than you, Corey,

but that goes both ways.

Well,

not just y'all's audiences and the people y'all brought and helped expose us to, but I mean, just y'all killed it.

Y'all came in like, like you, like, Corey, like you said, guest stars can come into a podcast and be a name and say some lines and be gone.

There are some podcasts out there that have done major, major Hollywood celebrities, and it sounds like they read the lines, all 20 of their lines on their lunch break in order with no direction.

And both of y'all worked with us and took direction for me, who's nobody,

you know, outside of just narrating this podcast.

So I appreciate both of you so much.

I love you.

And I know I'm so happy and proud to call you family.

And we managed to get through this episode without once talking about the desirability of the railroad, man.

So I guess we'll have to do another episode.

Yeah.

But yeah.

So thank y'all for joining us.

And we'll talk to you soon family talk to you real soon

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