BONUS: Steve Interviews the Railroad Man Yuri Lowenthal

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Well, hey there, family.

It's me.

You know who I am.

Steve Schell, old gods of Appalachia, hanging out here with you.

I know you weren't expecting to hear from us this week.

We did not promote this at all because the element of surprise comes with magic of its own.

So I am not alone here in the void.

Notice you don't hear really any crickets.

You don't hear any drones.

So you know we're not going into storyland.

And normally, I'm going to tell you, nine times out of ten, when I do something like this, it's going to be reserved for Patreon.

But y'all came through for us this season, whether it's supporting the show by word of mouth, getting us into the New York Times.

We don't have have a publicist.

Y'all's word of mouth got us into the New York Times back around Halloween.

Y'all are supporting us on the t-shirt shop.

Cameo has become a wild and wonderful thing for me.

I have done more cameos as Hornethead than I have just about anything.

If you've never had Hornethead tell you to go to the gym, then for a meager price over at cameo.com.

Or if you want Melvin to tell you to go take your kids to baseball and it's your turn to be a good parent, I can do that as well.

I've got to do the Walker Sisters later today, and I'm fighting the urge to buy wigs.

That's all I'm saying.

But I bring all this up, not just to come and tell you and say thank you.

I have a gift for you, my family.

I went walking here in Fletcher, North Carolina, which where I live is, I can say this without giving away a geographic location.

I went walking down by the railroad tracks.

I went walking down by the tracks after dark against my own good counsel, and I happened to find somebody there.

And I know about third of you just gasped because, yes, indeed, my brothers, my sisters, and all my family beyond the binary i am joined now by the railroad man himself mr yuri lowenthal yuri how are you my brother

yeah

uh i am uh thrilled to be here with you finally steve this is uh this was this is long overdue my friend yeah we have been trying to put together this but we're both getting busy and with the world sort of opening back up and then sort of closing back down

work for

yeah work for both of us um if you are not all the way through season two and have not gotten to the siege of pleasant evenings, the incident with the railroad man and the local magistrate story featuring Yuri and the buttercream dream Corey Forrester, you might want to pause because we're definitely going to talk about some spoilery stuff about that story.

And we are going to celebrate old daddy Charcoal himself being here.

Yuri, how does it feel?

Now, I am the voice of Hornethead and 80% of the other characters on the show.

So I understand how it feels to be objectified as an infernal deer filled with darkness and and glowing amber antlers.

People like that voice.

How does it feel to be possibly the most thirsted after character to

ever grace the mountains of old gods of Appalachia?

I don't know what I did to become so lucky or so cursed, depending on how you look at it.

It is a burden that I am willing to bear.

Oh, man, we have sold a ton of the shirts designed by the railroad stand from our Discord server,

which that piece of work made me so, so happy.

And there's another shirt out there.

Twitter user, you know who you are.

Mr.

Lowenthal here has brought this shirt to me.

I believe that is Aaron, I believe, is the user.

Their Twitter handle looks like Appalachia with the upside-down Vs.

Be very excited because Mr.

Lowenthal here, Yuri sent me an image of that shirt.

It's like, do I have to make this shirt and wear it myself?

So we're going to be hollering at you here very shortly now that season two is over.

So, Yuri,

you are not of our people.

You are an outsider to a certain degree.

So, can you tell?

Can you tell the people

how do we end up being kin?

How do we end up working on this together?

Well, I'm only an outsider, and then I walked away, and then I left the village, as it were, because I grew up in Tennessee.

I grew up in Nashville.

Now, you could argue that Nashville is hardly,

you know, I mean, that is, it is about as cosmopolitan as the South gets, but as Appalachia gets.

But,

you know, I grew up with, you know, stories of the Bell Witch and, you know, just terrified out of my mind.

And when I started listening to the show, I mean, you know,

anybody could be a fan.

You don't have to be from Appalachia to absolutely not.

Our family is fast and wide.

Yeah.

But

I mean, you could, you could tell by the way I think I reached out to you how excited I was.

And, you know, I would have accepted a, hey, you know, well, we've got a, you know, a rule about this.

And

this is, you know, we're sticking by it.

And I think we managed to still stick by your rule.

Indeed.

And,

and, you didn't ask me to, to, you know, to down a couple of whiskeys and settle back into the way I used to talk when I was in, when I was growing up in Nashville.

Um, you didn't ask me to do that, which I appreciate, you know, because we didn't need to push that.

I get enough of that when I, you know, when I have more than two, or I get on the phone with my sister anyway.

Oh, yeah.

Calls back home is an automatic way to dip, to dip the paintbrush back into the, into the family bucket there.

Yeah, I talked to my mom on the phone the other day, and y'all y'all know y'all have seen me it's it's really we're going through a weird thing as the show is getting bigger and people are new people are seeing some of our live streams right at a facebook live the other day and people are either shocked by how i look i guess maybe or so handsome so much

they expect overalls and a beard apparently sometimes a bigger beard okay fair enough yeah that's fair and that's fair but they're also a little bit surprised that my voice doesn't sound the cadence of the narrator all the time i'm like i am an actor right okay like this is my natural like if i relax all the way into my accent this is how it sounds and i'm not holding back anything.

This is just what it sounds like when I go home, talk to my family, everything's a little bit faster.

Comes through my nose a little bit, and that's just how it is.

But on my normal day-to-day, my Asheville, North Carolina, progressive liberal hippies with white dreadlock voice comes out more like this, which I know is still accented.

But Yuri had been supporting us.

And did you find us through Gary Witta?

No, I was, I think I was, I was already listening to you.

I think it was because some friends of mine did a podcast, a horror podcast, uh, called

Video Palace.

Oh, God, that show is so good.

So good, right?

And I think somebody said, I was done with Video Palace, and

they said, if you're looking for more, you should probably try this.

And I think that was my gateway.

Oh.

And then I, and then when I don't know if Gary tweeted about it or if it was just in the, and I think it was just in the credits once or you thanked Gary and his wife.

And

then

I immediately

sent a note to Gary saying, hey, is that the you?

Were you involved?

And he said, yeah.

And then when we started talking, you know, we found out that I also knew Gary Widow.

Yeah, yeah,

Gary Witta, a mutual friend of ours, fantastic screenwriter, wrote Book of Eli,

was kind of

wrote the OG Rogue One script

and a lot of other great things.

His wife is my wife's oldest internet friend who she has never met.

They have known each other for like 20 years.

Oddly enough, I met her in a parking lot of a Target in San Francisco when I was out there on a poetry trip with our youth poets.

And like I was standing there talking to Denez Smith, who is an amazing poet.

Go look that person up.

If you're listening to Steve Reeds and you hear me do these, introduce you to these poets, Denez Smith is a poet you need to know.

And another, another poet, Devin Samuels, who's not as well known, but Denez had just been on the Colbert show, like a couple of weeks before with McElmore.

He got to do a verse like after the hit and Jamila Woods.

And this woman approaches us and I'm like, oh, she recognizes Denez, clearly, clearly because the nest is beautiful and has a very unique look so i start to step back and she's like are you steve shell

and this is old gods doesn't exist nobody knows who i am maybe outside of slam poetry and she's like i'm leah witta i'm jamie's friend so we sent a selfie and we we did all that um but uh when the show started picking up we reached out to gary for advice and he's like i'm very busy and i won't i won't tell the whole story of how we eventually got connected to uh charlie ferraro at uta who's gary's agent now he's our agent and uh and yuri was retweeting us with his massive follower count and i'll be completely honest i don't watch anime i haven't played a spider-man video game in ever so i'm like who is this cool dude who's like retweeting me and like we were in la and you're like oh man i just missed you in la we could have hung out and i'm like who are you

why are you so friendly because i don't i don't trust you la vampires you weirdos

but then like every time you would retweet us we'd gain like 300 followers And I'm like, hey, could you start?

And I looked you up and I'm like, oh, he's a, he's a voice actor.

I wonder what he's not Appalachian.

No, what could we do?

What could we do?

And then one day I was asking you to retweet a trailer and you're like, you know, Steve, I would do anything for the show.

And I was like, I don't have Naruto money, Yuri.

And you're that was that was that was very Railroad Man of me.

I know, I know.

Like, and it was, but then, yeah.

And then we just, we just hit it off.

And I found the character.

The railroad man was always going to be a character after I name-dropped him in the Wolf Sisters.

And the character changed.

You were almost a serial killer.

Like, the Railroad Man originally was patterned after Francis Walcott on Deadwood.

Yes, I think I remember you talked about it.

Hyper-violent, did what he wanted, walked where he wanted because powers that protected him made it so.

But then, as you shaped the character and you found the voice, he went from like, yeah, this guy could roll into town and kill a few dozen people and then leave the town almost, or he could raise it to the ground with the powers of dark magic and capitalism.

So,

same thing, really.

Right.

Thinly veiled metaphor.

Thinly.

Thinly.

The thinnest.

But yeah, you brought such lots.

So just as an actor, and this is an actory-asked question for me to ask you, how did you get there with him?

Like, how did you,

how did you find that?

Yes.

And, you know, I know where you got the words.

I wrote them.

But like, how did you, where did you find, where did you find him?

I,

you know,

it's always a lot easier for me, and this is not just because we're talking face to face.

It's always a lot easier for me when the writing is good.

You know, I mean, that makes an actor's job so much easier.

And I was already in love with the poetry that you had been creating.

And

the, you know, the smoothness of the character comes from the smoothness of the writing.

But also, I mean, you know, you talk about capitalism, you talk about how, you know,

the, you know, yeah, you could either come in and kick a door down, or you could come in and charm the pants off everyone

and, you know, end up with a lot more at the end of the day.

And I think, you know, that's where, where he's at.

He's no stranger to violence.

He's no stranger to, you know, pure evil.

But he knows he doesn't, you know, it's almost more of a challenge and it's, it's much more rewarding for him.

to let people sort of come in on their own.

Yeah.

That was, that was a lot of it.

You just oozed.

Like we, I think we took one direction call where

I think I walked you through a couple of phrases and you just, but then they just slid on like this oily glove.

And I, I don't think I ever had to direct you past that.

Like I might have, I think I definitely wanted potato salad.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

No, and that was a good call.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was very, people found that very disturbing.

And there was fan art of you serving potato salad in one place.

I don't know if Railroad Stan drew that one or whatever, but

it's a weird world when two kids who grew up in Poe Dunk, Appalachia, get to work with the voice of Spider-Man.

And we did some math.

Actually, I had the Red Thread Society do some math on you.

They're probably maybe peeing themselves right now over this interview because

they're huge stand of the Railroad Man.

But I believe Churlington Beescoat on the Discord server did the math and that Frank Megatron Wellacher might be the only voice actor that has more the working actor that has more voiceover animation credits than you do right now

so so you are prolific

my friend yeah I know right like and you know and in in a similar way it's it's weird for me to think that this you know little Jewish kid from Nashville

grew up and get to gets to do this stuff.

You're freaking Spider-Man.

Like you're Spider-freaking man.

man and for a kid i know and for a kid who grew up reading comics and you know loved spider-man and you know just about anything else that he could get his hands on um that is it is still

i like i i mean you just said it out loud and i'm about to say it out loud that i'm i'm spider-man and it still doesn't feel yeah real

yeah yeah i mean i i i don't i don't think i'll ever be spider-man but i the closest i can come to relate is when like we sit down and look at numbers and they're like okay a half a million people listen to the show yeah and i i scream into a trash can for a half hour uh sure yeah because you can't make that work in reality yeah no or it's just like when people um

and when you like when you like you people like you and uh there are a lot of artists out there um tess fowler whose artwork i admire and adore is apparently a big fan and uh is a lovely human being and like there are people who have i love hearing that who have pushed us along out there uh and have suggested us like i think one of the the, there was a, a while back, it was some,

the name is escaping me, but someone's just early on was raving about the show.

Like we weren't even all the way through season one yet.

And it was the guy who drew the Avatar of the Last Airbender comic.

And I'm like, that person knows who I am.

Like that person, like, that's strange and bizarre.

And it is a wild, it is a, it is a, a, a wild thing to go from like doing a project that you think five people will hear to yeah, it's just for me and my friends.

Hanging out with Spider-Man.

I mean, like, uh

you know like which i hope we get a chance to do someday in in real life back when traveling you know you know in the oh no you're yeah yeah i will undoubtedly be back we'll be out there for something but asheville is a place you can come and get away from la and uh yeah the food here is absolutely amazing it has been gentrified to to a t but like i will say our sure our food our food and beer scene are are are excellent and if you're hearing this and thinking about coming to my town during the pandemic don't

uh but if you do wear a mask i don't care if if you're vaccinated i'm vaccinated i wear a mask everywhere i go had one of my one of my most uh one of my uh most fun friends who works in um

uh in in food services in asheville at a very fine nice fine dining restaurant super careful vaccinated masks all the time delta variant you know like you can be as careful as you can but like people if you're a jerk to a servers over covet stuff don't come to my town don't go to any town just find another planet dig just dig a hole yep yeah yeah okay i i got some people that can help you with i got six men.

They haven't had much to do in a while, and they'll come and

I believe we know a gentleman from the railroad who could help supervise with that.

So are you caught up?

Did you finish the season?

I did.

Okay.

And just really, you know, I was going to

get in touch with you to tell you about this, but I figured, you know, maybe it'd be better to just talk about it in front of everyone.

Go ahead.

Exactly.

Just delicious.

And the care you took with it and, you know, getting, you know, cultural sensitivity

advisors on it was super smart.

And I think raised the level.

And all the different actors you had in this last, they're all so great.

Like, it was,

it was,

it was, you know, fantastic.

You have a great.

I don't know if it's a gift or not, because I know you worked your ass off for it, but, you know, you have a gift for, you know, just massive, ridiculous

climaxes to each of the different parts of the story.

Like it all really comes to an epic.

And that's why I want to see, you know, illustrations.

That's why I want to see, you know, comic books.

That's why I want to, you know, see stuff.

Give us time.

Give us time.

Give us time.

Yeah, I know.

I know.

I'm being impatient.

We may have time.

And I've got it all in my head, and it's great in my head.

Yeah, and thank you so much.

Cam wanted to be with us today, but Cam is over at Old God Shipping Central getting more Patreon packages shipped out to folks who have been very patient and very kind.

And they managed one call today.

And this was my

the work I must do for this show to hang out with Spider-Man,

Mr.

Yurloenthal, the railroad man,

and chat with him.

Otherwise, Cam will be here.

The three of us are going to hang out on a Zoom sometime.

Maybe patrons can join us for that or something and watch us all be gifted.

But

I asked if you were caught up, not for the obvious prompt to praise us, but

how did you feel about the bait and switch we pulled with Mr.

Nathaniel Locke?

Again, spoilers, we are going into late season tier at Two Territory because we sort of teased people that

Jack's young protege was going to get a job with the man from the railroad.

So did you have feelings about that bait and switch?

You know,

often I would say, you know, often I'd get I'd get upset about bait and switch, but when you bait and switch me,

it's okay.

Like again, you know, in that in that last little bit, you know,

the introduction of Skin Tom, you know, I was like, oh, this guy, he's going to be so bad.

We're going to hate him.

And then by the end, I was like, well, I love him.

So he's just a good, he's just a good guy who wears other people's skins.

Like, he's a helper, you know?

So, so I'm okay when you...

when you bait and switch me, Steve.

We just,

I can't, honestly, I'm not going to, I'm not going to like talk down to people.

I was surprised some people fell for it because it would be way too soon.

I felt like for it.

And we have definitely not seen the last of the railroad man.

I mean, I can't say when or where.

We don't ever do that.

But like, yeah, I wouldn't like just cut his throat one week.

The next thing you know, he's got an office job somewhere in

somewhere in Tennessee.

Like, that's just

not how HR works around here.

So what else are you listening to now that old Gods is on Hiatus?

And we talked, we named up Video Palace, which if you've never listened to Video Palace, Shudder made it.

It very much falls into the category of, oops, I podcasted my own spooky demise,

which I think is a trope, but they do it.

They are probably the top of the class of, oops, I podcasted my spooky demise.

What else are you listening to?

Is there anything else?

That doesn't have to be horror, but just like.

No, I'm on hiatus too.

The most I've been listening to podcasts lately is my son, when we go on walks and sometimes when I don't want him to watch TV, but I want him to get focused on something, we listen to a stories podcast.

Okay.

Yeah, it's called Sis Stories Podcast, I think, with Amanda Weldon.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, I know the one you talked about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He likes that one.

He likes Reading Bug Adventures.

So this is all stuff for, if you're out there listening and you want something for your kids to listen to, that's honestly mostly what I've been consuming lately, which is a very different

field.

I have a hard time with

horror podcasts.

I love The White Vault.

I love all our friends at Fulbright Scholar.

And I finished Magnus.

You know, we are on the Rusty Quill Network.

Shout out Rusty Quill.

But I don't need to revisit those guys like anytime soon.

I rewarded myself for finishing season two by listening to

John Darnell of the Mountain Goats read Wolf and White Van.

on audiobook, which is a phenomenal.

That was my favorite book when that came out in 2015.

That was my book of the year, and it was long listed for the National Book Award.

But hearing, and I'm a,

I'm a John Darnell Super fan, and he lives in North Carolina.

And I really wish I could be seeing him at the Orange Peel tonight, but I did not think we would be having live concerts in August, which we probably shouldn't be.

But even though they're requiring masks and proof of facts to get in, I have family dinner plans, so I will not be there.

But

when a musician makes that leap from musician to novelist, you're always kind of sketchy.

Get it.

I can tell you kind of what it's about.

It's about a young man, because it's content warning, if I'm recommending it.

It's about a young man in the 80s who is obsessed with Conan and DD and has this very rich internal life, but also there's definitely something off.

And as you can find out from the get-go, that he has attempted to end his life with a rifle, but survived, severely disfigured, and has grown to be an adult and runs a turn, you remember these, Yuri, a turn by male role-playing game.

Oh my gosh.

And the narrative weaves in and out of time.

And in the real world, two kids have died playing his game.

And

there's a whole thing.

That's not, but that's not the story.

The story is about the internal workings of this character who is a grown man and also perpetually the child he was when he attempted to.

And it's just like,

it's just a, I recommend the audiobook very highly.

But the book is...

You said it's the wolf in the white van.

Wolf in white van.

And the

wolf in white van.

And that, I don't want to spoil where that title comes from.

But if you grew up in the satanic Panic, if you grew up,

that's when I was playing DD.

That's when I used to, I used to go back in Nashville.

I used to show up outside a donut shop where this guy would pull up his pickup truck and sell us used D D stuff.

He'd sell dice.

He'd sell used modules.

Like, I used to buy DD stuff out of the back of a pickup shop

in front of a donut shop.

Legit.

Absolutely 100% legit.

So I think I, and when you're talking about musicians who then write,

I immediately think, and it sort of falls in with this whole tone, Nick Caves and the Ass Saw the Angel.

Haven't read it, but I know it's out there.

It's, well, I'll tell you what, I'll read Wolf and White Van if you read.

Done, done, done.

Because they're, yeah,

so good.

Yeah, no, yeah.

But I finished Wolf and White Van and now I'm doing his other book, Universal Harvester, which is...

I know what it's horror.

And then Universal Harvester is a guy in the 90s working in a video store, small-town video store.

People start returning the tapes, and what look like clips of maybe torture or maybe a snuff film, maybe something horrible have been put on random tapes throughout the store.

And it's about unraveling the mystery of that and it does not go where you think it's going to go at all.

Darnell's mind is

there's, I, I, I talk about John a lot just because I, that's, I, I worry about my parasocial boundaries because there's just very seldom been an

author who,

or an artist who like, are you sure you're not me 20 years from the future sending me warning signs back through art because that's what this feels like tell me when i die um

but um yeah there's just as as somebody who worked in a in a video store growing up uh that uh appeals to me greatly uh next next on my list yeah next on my list is chuck wendig's new book uh book of accidents oh yeah yeah yeah i don't think i don't know that i've read chuck wendig to be honest um if you uh you know his last big book uh was called wanderers and it was very much if you liked stephen king's the stand it's it had it it definitely there was dna DNA in that.

But it was also very prescient with what's going on

with global pandemics and the rise of militias.

And in a way that when I was reading it, it just became more and more terrifying.

But it's really great.

I'm glad I, so I'll recommend, I'll see your wanderers and raise you Justin Cronin's The Passage.

Okay.

The Passage is a trilogy.

Well, the Passage.

Yeah, I'm looking off to see if...

No, that's...

Okay, I sip somebody else.

Yeah, the passage is a brick, and it's the passage, the 12, and the city of mirrors, and it is vampirism as a virus,

but not in the way, like not in a trophy sci-fi way.

It actually spans, like the entire book spans generations, and a lot of inspiration of how I, how I, you will eventually see families get tied together once we start writing past mid-20th century point with old gods.

It's very inspired by this, but it is the way it is written, the lyrical nature it is written.

It starts with

Fox did one season of a TV show setting it in the present, setting the present setting in which

FBI agents are sent to retrieve a little girl who's been orphaned because they're looking for a child to use in these experiments.

And she's someone who can vanish into the system.

And it's this experiment about extending human life by doing these things.

And of course, it creates something it's not supposed to create.

But that turns into a road story with the detective and the little girl.

And then it jumps 400 years into the future, into the world that came after all of that was unleashed.

And it flashes back.

And when you're in the future, you hear about the characters you met in the first, written about as if they were in the Bible.

And then there was Amy, who was glorious and the Savior, and at her side, Peter, the man of days.

And it's like, and it's just Cronin just has this voice that weaves.

And it's just one of these things, like, if you're going to write about vampires and you're, and they're not like

spooky, you know, they're not sexy vampires.

They're not sexy.

No, no, no, twice.

No, not at all.

Not remotely.

Right.

Though in the series, they made

because the premise is they experiment on death row inmates whose deaths they fake.

So they give them this thing that mutates them.

And then, of course, they are instilled by their basist instinct and they kind of become this hive.

And it's, it's, but it is rich and it is lyrical.

It is epistolary in places.

And then you'll get like some little snippet side story that you wonder where it's going.

And they reveal a last name at the end of it.

And you're like, oh, God, that's the grandmother of that guy.

Oh, yeah.

So, Justin Cronin's when you're ready for something big and you've got downtime, just start with the passage.

And if you like it, go again, also recommend the audiobooks of that when I forget the narrator.

But this has been Book Corner with Uncle Yuri and Uncle Steve.

Whatever you do, don't get me started on movies.

Yeah, so what was the last good thing you watched?

Movie-wise,

you know, I just re-watched The Lighthouse because it's so good.

I re-watched Detention recently.

Joseph Khan is a Gonzo filmmaker and his

high school sort of

throwback to

the 90s.

But

it's part Breakfast Club.

It's part weird time travel movie.

It's part

of nuts.

But,

yeah, you know, a lot of stuff,

I'm blanking out now, but a lot of stuff

has come out recently that I guess people have sort of been holding on to, waiting for exactly when to drop it during the pandemic.

Yeah, I've been hesitant on movies.

I've been delving into TV shows.

I'm super excited that we got Wellington Paranormal in America.

Yeah.

Well, but I mean, it's not, because was that on, is it on Netflix or who's HBO Max?

HBO Max has it.

And did they drop it yet?

There are four episodes.

I think they're dropping it live on the CW, and HBO Max is getting it day after the way Hulu does.

Because I love the

what we do in the Shadows universe is

flawless.

There is nothing you can say about it again it.

I'm for it.

It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.

And

I so much.

I can't wait for September for season three.

I almost hope it's the last season because I don't want it to get too.

Yeah, I don't, I don't want to.

I don't, I, gosh,

I can't say enough good things about what we do in the shadows.

It's the funniest, singularly the funniest horror show

I've ever watched, maybe.

I have, yeah, I love it.

I have great faith in, I have great faith in Taiko Wetiti and Jermaine Clement and, you know, like everybody involved.

I can't see it.

I can't see the quality dropping off.

Yeah, no, it's like

things go on.

I don't know.

But sometimes you have to know when, like, the good place, in my opinion, walked away.

100%.

I cannot re-watch the finale i cannot cry that much i can't do cheaty's wave speech uh no no

oh god what a great show no totally what's your comfort what's your comfort viewing right now what are you watching uh comfort comfort viewing right now ted lasso i mean is just

it is the show that we all need okay my wife liked that a lot and i haven't watched it so i'll put that yeah it is uh i you know i i put it off for for a while because i'm like you know i want to watch a sports show yeah that's kind of what i'm doing i guess it's it's about sports like the show Sports Night was about.

Oh, okay.

That show was.

How far ahead of its time was that freaking show?

Too far ahead.

Like, yeah, like, yeah.

They gave us Peter Krauss.

If you released it today, people would say, hey, this is right.

Yeah, Peter Krauss

before Six Feet Under, you know, like that was just like, and by the way, if you're from, if you're, if you're a Super Z baby, Six Feet Under was one of the greatest TV shows made of the late 90s, early aughts on HBO.

Or early HBO.

Some of it, some of it holds up and some of it did not age well.

But

interesting.

Yeah, yeah, that's that's when I went through a whole thing thing of revisiting all the big HBO hits, revisiting the Sopranos, which does not hold up that well.

There's a lot of misogyny that's just not

okay.

Never okay, but just like, there are times when, oh, yeah, that word got used.

Oh, no.

Ooh.

So much.

Yeah.

Dexter's getting a revival.

I'm not for it.

Dexter's getting a no, because Dexter did that thing where Dexter, I love Dexter, and then it was diminishing returns after a certain point.

The John Lithgow season was absolutely horrifying.

Oh, the Pentacles.

Yeah, and after that, everything everything they tried.

They tried.

I want a new season of Fargo.

How do you feel about Fargo?

Yeah, always.

Yeah, always.

I've been watching Shmigadoon.

If you're a fan of music,

the wife is on Shmigadoon, and I need to get in on it.

That is definitely feel good.

It's sort of like the Good Placey thing that I'm watching right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But yeah.

Yeah, Ted Lasso, Shmigadoon.

Doom Patrol.

So good.

Doom Patrol is so good.

It's my favorite superhero TV show like that and the boys maybe.

But Doom Patrol is, I mean, I know it was on a streaming platform that nobody really watched.

And then it's sort of buried on HBO Max, but

you owe it to yourself.

Brandon Fraser in that is a Brendan Fraser, sorry.

Brendan Fraser.

Yeah, The Return of Brendan Front.

Yeah, it's just,

yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't get enough of that.

Trying to think, let's see, what else?

Is there anything?

We're just talking about random stuff now.

But

I don't know that's what the family wanted.

It was just a chance to hang out with you.

Right.

And this is just the introduction because I have to wrap this up and get to the other work, the work where they called me and they scheduled it and they said, you got to do this and we'll pay you money.

But

can this just be sort of like the intro to a much bigger thing we do?

And we could do it live on Discord or more of this.

Yeah, I'll tell you what.

Let's call this the end of part one because we're right at a half hour.

And like, we'll, we'll, we will return with Uncle Yuri, aka daddy charcoal aka the rail me man aka uh

there somebody just died they will not believe i actually said that but i did um the most thirsted after uh character at old gods we'll we'll come back and either do something live or we'll just pick this up and add cam to the mix there'll be a part two to this maybe week or week after and fan so because you and i've gotten to talk but cam and i only talk on twitter i know and that that needs to happen part two will feature we'll be uh we'll have we'll feature 100 more cam content great so family thank you all for joining us and hanging out with uh with me and and uh uncle yuri here on a special just kind of interseason drop-in on old gods of appalachia can i throw in can i throw in one last question sure

um I just dropped a sci-fi show on dust, which nobody's heard of, but it's like a sci-fi aggregator.

All eight episodes of a sci-fi show that we produced live a couple of years ago, but now is all cut down and mastered.

You can watch it at watchdust.tv or it's probably, they've got an app, you know, it's like Shudder, but for sci-fi, basically.

And the show is called Orbital Redux.

Orbital Redux.

Gunpowder and Sky produces dust, and they're good people.

Correct.

They are good people.

All right, so family, we will come back and visit more with Uncle Yuri with 100% more cam content, and we'll work it out.

So we'll see you soon, family.

See you real soon.

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