Exclusive: We Found the Knicks' Top-Secret Tapes for Kawhi, Kyrie and KD

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Speaker 1 I'm not going to even tell you what I did for you.

Speaker 1 Come on, man. Frank, it's an honor for you to be here.

Speaker 1 I said I could do it over Zoom, and I said you have to be here in person. I respect that.

Speaker 1 I respect that. I drove in.
You drove? Yeah, I'm not going to marry. I asked him who's paying for it.
He said, well, you know, do that. I don't know how to do that stuff.

Speaker 1 So now I'm going to be out of money anyway. So you had to do the congestion.
Sell me. I said, Venmo me, Frank Isolo.
I have NYP. I have New York press plates.
So I park on 37,

Speaker 1 then I walk to 48 to Sirius. Then I took the train down here.
Real New York stuff right now. I mean, just the most

Speaker 1 like a diplomat. He parks like a diplomat.
I'm sorry, testing, testing. One, two, three.
Oh, close on a man. It's like this family at Yankee Stadium this summer.
Got it?

Speaker 1 They drove and parked on 42nd Street and then took the Metro North up.

Speaker 1 And I was like, that makes absolutely no sense, but you have your reasons. Like, I guess you don't want to go to the Heroin McDonald's across the street from Yankee Stadium like the rest of us.

Speaker 1 On River,

Speaker 1 they have NYP parking there. Okay.
But you have the mall there.

Speaker 1 I waited people out for them to leave. A guy came with a bunch of like groceries.
Blah, blah, blah, pull it right there. I'm not paying for parking.
I need to get one of those.

Speaker 1 I'm like George Costanza. Eagle.
Another New York legend. This is already the most New York conversation we've we've had on this podcast.

Speaker 1 We're just talking about parking strategy in and out of Yankee games. Frank, you don't know Dezas.
You've never met him before.

Speaker 1 I'm supposed to be really phony and say, I really admire your work. No, you're fine.
I funny. No, you're really funny.
Thank you. Funny in like a ha-ha way or funny like a...
Well played.

Speaker 1 You know, like a clown? I make you laugh. I'm here to amuse you.
No, you're very good. Thank you.

Speaker 1 I think he's very New York. Like, you've lived in New York your whole life.
I look like New York, but he kind of is New York. Yes, but

Speaker 1 I'm very familiar with you, read your work, not even bull.

Speaker 1 Like, I know Frank. When he said it, I was like, I'm still depressed that I got laid off.
I kind of, I like working for a newspaper.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, you work with words, and there's no longer any reason for words. I know, nobody reads.
No one reads. Everybody tweets.

Speaker 1 Pablo's doing a great job with his podcast, but people hate him for it. But people took you more seriously, or you like when people take you seriously when you work for Sports Illustrated.

Speaker 1 I think people took me more seriously when I was. I used to go during Lynn's Anity is where Frank and I really developed a relationship.

Speaker 1 Because you were beating everyone in the story, so I hated you. And Frank was taking shots at me.
And it's an as a New Yorker, it is an honor when Frank Isola personally tries to drone strike you

Speaker 1 in the pages of one of the city's great tabloids. It really

Speaker 1 Frank is somebody that we both grew up reading. Yes.

Speaker 1 If you grew up a Knicks fan, Frank Isola has another nickname. Yes, Frank Ashola.
I was going to say, is that it? Frank Ashola. Or if it was, if you're old enough, Frank Ayatollah.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that works. That works.
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I remember. I remember my wife and kids call me the other one.
Craig Ayato Ayatola. I remember this.
Sometimes I would see tweets from him and I was like, this motherfucker.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I had to realize. I was like, that's your thing.
But here's what's weird. When they were terrible and dysfunctional, I was pointing it out.
The Knicks were terrible and dysfunctional.

Speaker 1 And last year, I was praising them for how well they did. I was surprised I got rid of the coach and everyone was killing me.

Speaker 1 I thought that last year they had a good year. I thought when they won 24 games, that was a bad year.
Right. You know what it is? Have you ever been to an animal shelter?

Speaker 1 And they have like a rescued dog, and like the dog is like getting cared for and getting food on schedule, and it lashes out, it doesn't know how to act.

Speaker 1 So, that says Knicks fans, like literally, you could be like, Yo, that was a good year. You're like, What do you, what do you mean by that? Yeah, really, that's funny to you.

Speaker 1 Like, we, we're very, we're very caustic, we don't trust this. Like, me right now, like, I'm like, everyone's like, oh, you guys won the cup.
I'm like, what is it? Do we have the cup curse now?

Speaker 1 How do the Knicks maximize their natural advantages? Being

Speaker 1 they're in New York. Yes.
I mean, how the Knicks have approached the acquisition of superstars is really the premise of why I've been summoning you here.

Speaker 1 The thing we did in 2024, this was in April 2024. Excellent.
We got the tape that the Knicks made for LeBron.

Speaker 1 And I just want to refresh people's memories because you two, I think, are just in the target demo.

Speaker 1 But if you haven't seen it, what the Knicks did to recruit LeBron James in the summer of 2010, it did involve this.

Speaker 19 Now, we just got to find a place for your friend LeBron to live. What's

Speaker 19 Says it gets really loud there. Take a look.

Speaker 21 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 21 Yeah, that's that's it.

Speaker 1 That's going to be perfect for showing Madison Square Garden on a laptop in this modest apartment that the late great James Gandalfini was filming this scene out of, in which they're in witness protection.

Speaker 1 That was the premise of this, by the way.

Speaker 1 My favorite part that I think people overlooked, though, is the fact that when the Knicks were recruiting LeBron James in 2010, they were also recruiting two other stars,

Speaker 1 Frank, Chris Bott,

Speaker 1 and Dwayne Wade.

Speaker 1 And I wouldn't say they tried quite as hard when they

Speaker 1 did some alt takes on that same scene.

Speaker 19 Now we just need to find a place for your friend Dwayne to live. What's he like?

Speaker 2 But he respects tradition.

Speaker 19 Now we just need to find a place for your friend Chris to live. What's he like?

Speaker 20 Where's a modern guy?

Speaker 2 But he respects tradition.

Speaker 1 I feel like they were running out of time in the studio and it was like, yo, we'll fix it in post. We will fix it in post.

Speaker 1 The list of famous faces they got, it didn't just, start and stop with the Sopranos. The first face you saw in the video, of course, was Donald Trump.
Rudy Giuliani is in there.

Speaker 1 Chris Rock is in there, Spike Lee.

Speaker 1 But I do want to highlight one of the faces that I don't think aged nearly as well as any of those, actually, because you may recall him from his work in Hollywood and beyond.

Speaker 21 New York is such a universal city. And I know LeBron, I mean, I read his book,

Speaker 21 and I know that he's tight with his buddies. The idea of those friends coming to New York City, those guys sound amazing, loyal, smart, bright.

Speaker 1 Well, Weinstein Sanity was a bleak period during the Knicks run.

Speaker 1 That's the glad Monterey Zeek's no wearing that off. Weinstein's sanity was another tabloid sensation.

Speaker 1 And in case you're wondering how poetic Harvey is when it comes to those other two superstars, they also taped that.

Speaker 22 You know, when I think of The Road Not Taken, Robert Frost's great poem about a man who makes a decision, the road that he'll travel down. And I think that Dwayne Wade wouldn't come to New York City.

Speaker 22 I mean, you know, I love Miami, but Miami is a suburb of New York. I think of that Robert Frost poem, The Road Not Taken, about someone who doesn't take the big road.

Speaker 22 And I just wonder if Chris Bosch is sitting there and going, wow, I could have gone to New York. I could have played on the world stage.

Speaker 1 And I didn't do that.

Speaker 22 I didn't throw my hat into the greatness ring. You know, I can see him being, you know, 70-year-old guy and going, wow, I should have done that, shouldn't I? Well, you know what?

Speaker 22 Don't be the 70-year-old guy, just do it.

Speaker 1 I feel like he quotes his Robert Frost poem for everything. He's just like, Oh, my food's late.
You know, like Robert Frost said, the meal not discovered. He's like, All right, we get it, Harvey.

Speaker 1 Then he quoted Nike at the end. Just do it.
Just do it.

Speaker 1 There was a greatness ring he referenced, which feels like the thing that the Knicks should put in the wrappers of MSG. That's where the Emirates banner should go in the greatness ring.

Speaker 1 The reason you're here today, though, is not because I just wanted to replay that video, those videos, all of them for you, although I do.

Speaker 1 I bring you here because the Knicks actually quietly have learned their lesson. So the next big free agency summer, Frank, where three stars were available of that caliber, right? That was 2010.

Speaker 1 The next time it happened was 2019.

Speaker 1 Frank, could you remind us what was going on in the summer of free agency in 2019? You had Kevin Durant telling people he wanted to team up with Kyrie Irving to come to New York.

Speaker 1 And you you also had someone else available that summer, too.

Speaker 1 We're doing a Kawhi Leonard episode.

Speaker 1 The question of how do you recruit three stars if you're the New York Knicks? Yep.

Speaker 1 Frank, could you just give a sense for us of how much celebrity matters at Madison Square Garden? All of it. All of it matters.

Speaker 1 Look at, you know, during the game, they're going to show celebrities during timeouts. That's a big part of it.
The celebrities all want to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 I never knew Ben Stiller was this big of a fan. I mean, he's huge.
I was covering the Knicks for 20 years. I never remember seeing him at a game.
Now he's everywhere. Now he's everybody living.

Speaker 1 You can't have, you can't throw a Knick jersey without hitting Ben Stiller. And the funniest thing is, like, he's a huge celebrity.
You can just do the smallest tweet. Be like, let's go, Knicks.

Speaker 1 And it's like, Ben Stiller liked it. Within 30 seconds.
I'm like, you are so tapped in, man. I almost feel now that they're getting better.

Speaker 1 I feel there's a little competition now among the celebrities. Oh, Shalom's coming.

Speaker 1 Who's the biggest Knicks fan? So that is certainly a big part of it.

Speaker 1 And part of the whole thing with Kevin Drain and Kyrie Irving, people were the all-star game that year, I'm going to forget where it was, but it was in February and everyone, it might have been in Charlotte, and everyone was saying, Kyrie and Kevin Drain have already decided they're coming to the Knicks.

Speaker 1 That was in February. Yeah, as a delusional Knicks fan, that sounds like something I would have believed just from with no sources, just someone in my barbershop said it.

Speaker 1 In fact, the two of them before the All-Star game

Speaker 1 talked in like a hallway where everyone could see them, everyone in the media, and they were kind of whispering each other's ears.

Speaker 1 It wasn't Charlotte, by the way. Yeah, it was.
A viral video of them just like having a story. Yep, I was standing right there.
As Mike Frances would say, I was there. Yep, I saw the

Speaker 1 God, the Pope.

Speaker 1 So 2019, it's not LeBron, Wade, and Bosch. It's Kyrie, it's KD, and Kawhi Wire.

Speaker 1 And the Knicks, Frank, had a ton of cap space.

Speaker 1 And I've been looking at the summer of 2019 because that was the summer when Kawhi Leonard chose to go to the Clippers. That's the rabbit hole I've been in for pretty much all of this year.

Speaker 1 It's the summer, by the way, that in retrospect kind of changed the NBA. Yeah.
Kawhi goes to the Clippers. Paul George goes to the Clippers.
The Thunder get everything the Thunder are now in position.

Speaker 1 Kevin Durant blows out as Achilles. The next decade.
And yeah,

Speaker 1 people's ligaments blow up. What I didn't know about that summer, though, was how big a player the Knicks were in terms of free agent superstar recruiting.
In terms of like,

Speaker 1 you saw what they did in 2010. What did they do in 2019?

Speaker 1 What I am told is that the Knicks spent seven figures as part of a top secret campaign to not just get Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, but also Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you guys are both here because we're going to watch these videos that no one has ever seen for the first time today. Let's go.

Speaker 1 So, 2019, the Knicks, what they do, as they often do, and Frank knows this, they turn to a marketing and music mogul with the initials S and S.

Speaker 1 Steve Stouts. Steve Stout.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's right. I thought you were going to say PD.
I was like, I got to go. I got to stop.
That's right. That was the guy that was best friends with LeBron.
He was going to get him here.

Speaker 1 Then the Knicks hired him. He was arguing as a Nick surrogate on first take at one point.
Remember? Yeah, that's right. And he criticized one of the active figures.

Speaker 1 He hired Mike Miller, basically, on television. Yeah.
He got hired. His agency got hired.
His agency's name is Translation. It turns out that this agency got hired.

Speaker 1 And we know this because we just spent months, three months now, just calling around the league, trying to figure out, like, okay, I heard there's a Kawhi Leonard video that they made that no one's seen.

Speaker 1 And we got in touch with the guys who made it. And one of them agreed to come on camera.
Yeah, so I'm Chaucer Barnes. I'm chief marketing officer of translation.

Speaker 1 And this all started with a conversation between Steve Stout, our founder, and I believe Jim Dolan.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the free agency window was coming up, and there was a desire to create some like,

Speaker 1 I guess what you would call

Speaker 1 like more intimate. assets to talk to a couple of superstars than they would normally produce.
And, you know, they had a lot of cap space at the time and they wanted to go after some big stars.

Speaker 1 and so they highlighted the three K's, you know, and they were like, Yeah, we want to get after them. Can you write me? It was kind of like being a serial note to Bergerac, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, but but not being able to talk to Roxanne and not being able to follow her around. So, you know, what would be

Speaker 1 what would be persuasive to these guys? There's a lot of literary references in this episode. Robert Frost, that guy's name is Chaucer.
Listen.

Speaker 1 By the way, you're, if you think you're going to get through to Kawhi Leonard, come on now. Nobody knows what makes him take.
Well, this was the challenge, right?

Speaker 1 Come on. Well, okay.
So the three K's. This is the challenge.
This is what's going to make him.

Speaker 1 But the audio-only audience, Frank Isolo is making a motion in which he is rubbing his fingers. Rubbing the fingers.
The three K's, Jesus. Kawhi, KD, Kyrie.

Speaker 1 I heard three K's and I.

Speaker 1 Listen, get ready to rub it. Audio-only audience.
Listen, I'll take a ring anyway possible, okay? I'm not asking questions.

Speaker 1 But under the hood of this operation, so to speak, the question was, how do you recruit Kwai Leonard? And Steve Ballmer had one answer. I've been reporting the contours of that.

Speaker 1 It involves Uncle Dennis Robertson, who was reportedly asking for no-show jobs and equity in private companies and the team itself and real estate deals and all of that.

Speaker 1 Many episodes about that separately. But the Knicks clearly thought they were in it because they invested in what was called, quote, a highly personalized gift.
They wanted to do this thing bespoke.

Speaker 1 And what they decided to do, we love unboxing videos on this show. What this company did was they got a literal box, a pizza box.

Speaker 1 It's a NYX pizza box with Nick's gear, Nick's merchant, a little kith on it. You know, they said, hey, here's some free swag.
And it says, please watch the film below. Oh, is that a monitor inside?

Speaker 1 Oh, there's a monitor.

Speaker 1 There's a monitor inside of this custom bespoke pizza box. And when you open the box and you begin to watch, you see this.

Speaker 24 We're here at Madison Square Garden, and the season opener, probably the biggest ever. Why? Because it's Kawhi Leonard's first night wearing the blue and orange.
This city is in a frenzy.

Speaker 24 Kids everywhere are putting their hair in cornrows. In fact, I tried, it didn't work.
But let me tell you, this is the big one.

Speaker 1 What's up, Gawa? It's J. Welcome to New York, baby.
Back to you.

Speaker 25 Oh, what's up, Michael Ch.

Speaker 1 See, in my head, I was like, how did they have him watching this? But no, no, no.

Speaker 1 It's a doppelganger. It's Jay Farrow.
Jay Farrow. Shout out to the homie right there.
It is Jay Farrow, Michael J. There's a lot of SNL in what we're about to watch here.

Speaker 1 And I just got to say that Jay Farrow, so far, is a very compelling Kawhi player. He's great.
The braids are very authentic. From the back, I didn't know it wasn't him.
He's a method Kawhi. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And from there, the video proceeds.

Speaker 1 Ah, the champ is here. What's up, man?

Speaker 25 I don't want to draw too much attention to myself, all right? Uh-oh, I got you, I got you. Low profile, I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 Hey, man, you ready to see the city or what?

Speaker 25 Well, I was actually about to head to Madison Square Garden. Oh, no, man, we got plenty of time to do that, man.
Right now, I just want to show you New York. What about Goodfellas? What about me?

Speaker 25 Mean Streets. Yeah, both.
You know, those are good New York movies. Can I get some sauerkraut, please? Yeah, sure.

Speaker 25 I'd have to say, for me, favorite New York movie is probably between Muppets Take Manhattan and Rocky, leaning towards Rocky.

Speaker 1 No way.

Speaker 25 Why not?

Speaker 1 Rocky's from Philly.

Speaker 25 He's from Philly, but he's... No, he's originally from New York.
No, it's shot in Philly.

Speaker 1 He's from New York.

Speaker 25 Oh, yo, Andrew. That's New York.
That's totally New York. Can I have that? I got to go.
It's Kawhi's first game, so I got to go see it. I'm not paying for this.

Speaker 1 Always the Rickslin.

Speaker 1 There he is. There is Mr.
Bennett. Showing a claw at the end.

Speaker 1 They are going for it. They are.

Speaker 1 They're like... All the stops are out.
So we were told that Ben Stiller just rearranged his whole day to shoot that scene.

Speaker 1 They considered, apparently, Spike Lee, but only briefly because it was, quote, just

Speaker 1 too obvious almost to get Spike in that. Yeah.
And so the question I'm contemplating, and I'm curious how you guys would respond if you were Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 1 Like, you're watching a video in which someone is impersonating you. And so you kind of got to thread the needle on a respectful impersonation.
Yes.

Speaker 1 That is also convincing you I want to join this organization.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they decide to go north. Oh, snap.
We got the champ in the house. What's up, champ? Oh, what's up, man? Champ, right, yeah.

Speaker 24 Well, you see, I'm representing for you already.

Speaker 1 You see, that's in New York, man.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, man. Hey, what's up?

Speaker 24 What y'all doing around here, man? You need a thing or something?

Speaker 25 Wait, Kenan, you work here?

Speaker 27 Yeah, man, it's New York. You know, everybody got a second job.

Speaker 1 Hey, Jay, you take this man and get some pizza here.

Speaker 25 No, we're actually heading to Madison School.

Speaker 24 Jay, you better take this man to get some pizza.

Speaker 1 He needs to eat. Look how big he is.

Speaker 1 You rent Joe's pizza? They're uptown now. They're downtown.
I know you don't like like to eat before a game, but you gotta try some New York City pizza.

Speaker 1 Hey, everything good over here? Well, it's great. Hey, Paulie, let me get a pie.

Speaker 18 I told you, Biggs. No more pies for you.

Speaker 8 All right, I promise I will eat it this time. No, Biggs.
You...

Speaker 8 Oh, what is up?

Speaker 1 Champ?

Speaker 27 Hey, let's bring one back to New York, all right?

Speaker 1 Let's go next. Come on, my dude.
My dude. Get out of here, Biggs.
I like how everyone in this video talks talks the way people in New York talked when Merakoch was around.

Speaker 1 Everyone's like, yo, I'm walking. Whoa, Master Square Garden and Pizza.
I'm like, no one talks like that anymore. Nobody went to school back then.

Speaker 1 By the way, does he know anybody?

Speaker 1 Does he know any of these people in the city? Maybe Michael Che. Yeah.
After that, you're just like,

Speaker 1 no way.

Speaker 1 There's no way he knows who Al Roker is.

Speaker 1 No, that's very, that's very low. No chance.
It's very low. Maybe from like the Macy's parades? Maybe.
Kawhi Lennon is getting up early on a Thursday Thanksgiving lunch. Watching a Johnny Channel.

Speaker 1 No Snoopy. No chance.

Speaker 1 This is clearly oriented around Kawhi Leonard, comedy fan and like movie enthusiasts. Like so Jason Biggs.
I didn't know. Did you guys know Jason Bigs? I was a Jason Biggs fan.

Speaker 1 Well, I didn't even know it was him. You know what? They will show him on like the jumbo chart.
I'll be like

Speaker 1 the guy from the movie. American Pie.

Speaker 1 But he's like six or seven into the game that they'll introduce. Yeah, not the first.
There is a, yes, the first. He's a second quarter, third quarter guy.

Speaker 1 We're not talking Steve Shiripa.

Speaker 1 Edie Falco, come on, come on. Only the best here.

Speaker 1 That is,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's Jason Biggs making a joke about how he f pies, but it's a pizza pie.

Speaker 1 I didn't even catch that.

Speaker 1 Neither did Kawhi. They're living.
They're levels. Levels.
They're nuance.

Speaker 1 It's elaborate. And geographically, they're going from north to south and then back up north to Rutger Park where Jay Farrow slash Kawhi Leonard decides to make an appearance.

Speaker 1 Heads up!

Speaker 27 Y'all need one more?

Speaker 28 Nah, we good.

Speaker 29 You handle what you got to do at the garden tonight.

Speaker 1 We'll handle things here. All right, kid.
Do your thing.

Speaker 27 I'll be over here if you need me.

Speaker 27 Kawhi, that's money.

Speaker 1 See, champ, I got moves.

Speaker 1 Okay, board man gets paid.

Speaker 1 Let me know if you need me at the mecca. I I got your back, Kawhi.

Speaker 30 Yo, come on, y'all. Let's play, man.

Speaker 1 That part was good. That worked.
That worked. Like, you could have just had that scene right there.
You need all the other stuff. And I would throw in a couple of good-looking women.

Speaker 1 Seriously. It's very dude-friendly.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 There are women who live in New York.

Speaker 1 No female Nick fans in this thing.

Speaker 1 There is an audience of one mentality here where you're like drilling down to what would this guy like. And I do feel like there are some obvious cards left on the the table.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Tracy Morgan showing up to block a kid's shot. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 If you're wondering what it's like to tape with Tracy Morgan at Rutger Park, while, by the way, Jay Farrow, again, is trying to be so restrained in his impression without like crossing the line.

Speaker 1 Right. He's like kind of a, he's a good dude.
He doesn't want to be insulting. No.
No, he's like helpful to the kids.

Speaker 1 It definitely feels like an SNL sketch that at any moment is about to go very left. Exactly.
Very left.

Speaker 1 And something that went left was an experience taping with Tracy Morgan as one of the creatives from the translation agency named Chris Mendez decided to tell us about it.

Speaker 1 Tracy Morgan pulled up in like a half a million dollar Ferrari, as you've heard. He's, he's done.
He pulls up to Rucker Park. He parks it sideways and just like gets out the car.

Speaker 1 He's like, where do I go? And we're like, yo, go over there. And people are like, are you worried about your car getting towed? And he's like, that car is too expensive to tow.

Speaker 1 And he kind of just left it there. And it's funny because like you could tell like the local cops knew him.
Like everyone was like down.

Speaker 1 It was just such an and again it was like such a new york moment because down to like

Speaker 1 people walking down the street like wondering what we're shooting to like cops everyone was like the minute they found out it was for the knicks they were like whistling looking that way they're like do your thing you know so

Speaker 1 sounded about right i mean parking again you could be frank isola with special you know he needs those press plates that's right i used to work at the library the spite and dival library and tracy morgan's kid went to school across the street so he would just come in like a drop top bentley and just park it in front of of the library, not locking the door or anything, roof it off.

Speaker 1 And who's going to steal his drop-top Bentley? I'm like, I don't even know how to drive that. I thought he did that during the playoffs last year.
He does it.

Speaker 1 He has so many cars and he's so rich and he just drives around. No security, just chilling.
He likes Morgan. Outside MSG, you'll see him like dap up kids.

Speaker 1 He gave like an inspirational speech to like one of those kids or something like that. It'll change your life.
Yeah. I think he would resonate with Kawhi.
So far, nobody else. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 So at this point, with I think that being a concern, the assembled actors actors and entertainers decide to basically just break the fourth wall and appeal directly. Yo, what's up, Kawhi?

Speaker 31 You should come to New York, man.

Speaker 30 Look at the garden.

Speaker 24 You see all them people in there? I'm one of them. If you are here in New York, I will personally come to your home and give you a forecast every afternoon.

Speaker 31 I'm a humble New York Knickerbocker fan, and we need you at the garden, brother.

Speaker 32 I don't need to tell you about basketball, but I can tell you about New York. First of all, the weather's awesome.

Speaker 1 Holding umbrellas.

Speaker 32 The Knicks won a championship when I was eight.

Speaker 32 So I'd like another one before I die. Time is running out.

Speaker 27 Man, you need to come to New York, man. You need to chill your ass out of New York.
Come play, you know what I'm saying? You're going to get all the women.

Speaker 27 I mean, I know you're married, but you know that everybody have a little bit sad piece. Now I'm saying, you can't have a value meal without having a little, you know what I'm saying? So whopper fries.

Speaker 24 But yeah, come on to New York, man.

Speaker 27 We got everything for you.

Speaker 20 We got lots of barbershops.

Speaker 8 So, you know, you'll be tight for every game.

Speaker 26 I'm kind of a big deal, all right? I walk down the streets, people go nuts.

Speaker 20 What else do we got?

Speaker 27 Puerto Ricans?

Speaker 3 I know y'all ain't got no Puerto Ricans in Toronto.

Speaker 20 We got several left, so come on down, bro.

Speaker 1 Play with the Puerto Ricans.

Speaker 26 You are next level. Like, I'm like here, and you're like here.

Speaker 27 You need to get on Drake's plane. That's what you need to do.

Speaker 32 You need to fly that plane from Toronto.

Speaker 27 You need to bring that ass to New York.

Speaker 1 There's nothing like winning in New York.

Speaker 2 Just try it. It's a good idea, because I said so.

Speaker 27 And I can give you a private check. Know why? I got money.
Bam. You want money?

Speaker 33 Come here. Come see us.
Holla at me. I'll be waiting for you.

Speaker 30 When I think of Kawhi Linux, I think of prosperity. You know how many crackheads there are in the city? You know how many people will stop doing crack if you came here, Kawhi?

Speaker 1 Where was Harvey Weinstein? What was he doing? Now he couldn't be in this video. Come on, Harvey.
Let me ask you a question. All right, this happens to me.
Somebody, I have somebody come up to you.

Speaker 1 They start talking. Oh, I thought you were so-and-so.
I said, all the time. They'll say, oh, I know a guy that looks like you.
I said, the guy better be good looking. All right.

Speaker 1 That's not Idris Albert. That's no offense to Jay Farrell.
Right.

Speaker 1 So, like, don't you? I think Kawhi Leonard would be insulted by that. I really do.
Yeah. But

Speaker 1 so the guy's got to be better looking. He doesn't have to look like you.
He's got to be better looking. But if he's funny, it's not as threatening.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because if he was, if it was just like some gorgeous model, like, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm hitting. like, no, it's like, oh, the comedy softens it.

Speaker 1 And you're like, okay, I can, I can take a little light ribbing, that kind of thing. This is Kawhi, though.
It is, but also, we don't know anything about Kawhi. Yeah, well, we found out.

Speaker 1 Pablo reported he pulls out the dirt with one hand, plants a tree with the other, just goes.

Speaker 1 Those big, that's what now we know what that big claw is for.

Speaker 1 Digging that hole, sticking the tree in there. Tree man gets paid.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, for those who don't remember how that summer went,

Speaker 1 not good. Wait, we didn't get KD?

Speaker 1 We didn't get

Speaker 1 it.

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Speaker 1 Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, they're playing footse all

Speaker 1 year, basically. And I do want to show what the Knicks prepared for Kyrie first.
Because again, they don't just do it as if, like, here's an email attachment.

Speaker 1 They made, you know, for kids who don't remember what this object is, Deezus, what is this object? I was about to date myself and say it's an Apple II, but it's not. This is a TV with a built-in VCR.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wow.
It's like, it's sort of

Speaker 1 Jane Herring crack is created. Yep, exactly.
All around. It's like orange and blue.
Yep. All these.
This is good. You can see the

Speaker 1 K open. Yeah, got the Kyrie Irving KI.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's right. That's his logo.
Yep. Street artist Eric Hayes is the artist who put work into it.

Speaker 1 That's actually not bad. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's going to impress him, but

Speaker 1 and when you press play on this thing, what it was designed to do was show you this.

Speaker 1 Kyrie Irving was made for the New York Knicks.

Speaker 24 New York City basketball is in Kyrie Irving's blood.

Speaker 1 Well, it's Ruthlin here. Here's a guy that played in the park.

Speaker 24 When Kyrie was young, his father used to bring him to the gym, and he was too young to play with us.

Speaker 8 That boy used to watch me.

Speaker 24 He has that mental toughness, a heart of the lion, the grit, the hunger.

Speaker 2 All that stuff he does, it came from the playground, with the crossover, the jelly.

Speaker 24 He has New York City flair.

Speaker 33 And the DNA of New York City is Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 1 This is very streetball-oriented. They decided to appeal to that.
Speedy Williams, record park legend, Earl de de Pearl Monroe, who's also, yes, legendary on the outdoor court.

Speaker 1 Blackjack Ryan, also very famous in the streetball world. That's the angle they're going with.

Speaker 1 And it's sweet. It's like, okay, they're appealing to tradition, and then they're going to imagine also a future for Kyrie Irving if he decided to join the Knicks.

Speaker 19 Hey, my name is Kyrie, and I was named after my favorite baller of all time.

Speaker 29 Why do you think I named both of them at them?

Speaker 24 Kyrie.

Speaker 1 Kyrie's so gifted, he wrapped it. Living in the future, the present, he passed it.

Speaker 1 Kyrie. Kyrie Irving, man.

Speaker 1 Stay home, man. Get home, man.

Speaker 1 I love this, just like, oh, we're going to get Kyrie and it's going to be so much unprotected sex in New York City. My God, we're just naming the kids left and right.

Speaker 1 That one's not, that's actually not bad. It's a vision of of 2027.
They put the aftermath on there. Like, this is what happens if you win in New York, you get a Weedies box.

Speaker 1 Um, I will point out that the Wheaties box lately is less sort of, I mean, do we have the Timothy Chalamet on it? Exactly. Chalamet has a Weedies product.
Oh, wow. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. They're just.

Speaker 1 Look.

Speaker 1 Hold on. We have a.
Let's just get that. I mean, I haven't looked at a box of Weedies in quite some.
What? $19 now? Here is the Spawn Con. Oh.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen.

Speaker 1 I went to that.

Speaker 1 I didn't take one though. Yeah.
Was it right? Timothy D. Charlemagne, courtside all the time since he was a child, a real New Yorker.

Speaker 1 And it was where, you know, the big thing is orange. They wanted everybody, you would have fit in perfectly last night.
They had. They wanted everybody orange.

Speaker 1 The Empire State Building with Charles last night. Listen.
It's like they bring him on to talk about other things. Yeah.
They're like, talk about, you know, childhood cancer.

Speaker 1 He's like, yo, childhood cancer is really bad. But you know, it's not bad.
We're in the NBA Cup. And you're like, all right.
He was on in London on a show just last week, and he mentioned the Knicks.

Speaker 1 He can't go tell me. I love it.
That's what I'm saying. He's like you.
He's a real Knicks fan. Real Knicks fan.
Like, we're going to talk about it when you don't want to hear it.

Speaker 1 So, Kyrie was appealed to in that regard. And yeah, I think that was largely well done.

Speaker 1 Kevin Durant, what they provided him in terms of what the object was physically, it was a literal key to the city with a plaque. And the plaque says, Kevin, the city is yours.

Speaker 1 Continue your legacy in the mecca of basketball. He did.
He went

Speaker 1 just in the wrong borough.

Speaker 1 He got lost.

Speaker 1 So this key, this golden key in this beautiful case, was a thumb drive. It turns out when you plug it in,

Speaker 1 clever. When you plug it in, you get a full-on music video.
And some of this has already come out.

Speaker 1 We reported this, actually, broke this news earlier that they made this whole custom thing involving the Wu-Tang clan and Fat Joe and a bunch of other people about the 2019 Knicks roster.

Speaker 24 Let me tell you something, man. I was outside in the rucka.

Speaker 24 KD scored about 81 points out there

Speaker 25 Just shooting miles away. I mean miles away

Speaker 1 That's when I knew he was the real deal.

Speaker 24 It's only one place to play is the Knicks.

Speaker 12 There is nothing else man

Speaker 12 That's why you know he belong here in New York.

Speaker 24 What's up KD?

Speaker 11 Come through baby bro.

Speaker 1 We need you.

Speaker 24 I know you got that root tattoo on your chest, right? Over there there on your leg.

Speaker 1 I see that bird. Got it all for us.
Get it, guys. A yoke sneaker on the hardwood floor.
All we all need now is to get a gold ball.

Speaker 24 We're going to ride with you die, what you spiked on say.

Speaker 1 1.5 seconds left all day. We gon' build you a statue right in front of the garden and all gold.
All these other organizations are gone.

Speaker 1 This is the music in the background when you're changing the settings on NBA Live. You're like, let me turn down the sliders.

Speaker 1 There are so many people in that video that they hired to do it. And it goes on and on and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 But the problem with this whole thing, Frank, I need you to help explain the timeline issue with free agency.

Speaker 1 So these videos were all shot from late May to late June, I believe, in 2019, is what we were told. But the free agency window for the NBA, legally, officially, opens on June 30th at 6 p.m.

Speaker 1 One problem with what happened in 2019, as often happens in NBA free agency, Frank, is what? Well, Woge was breaking stories

Speaker 1 before even 6 o'clock. Yes.
So how could Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving be going to the Nets having not even spoken to them? How is that even possible? 56 p.m. That's what the time was?

Speaker 1 Woj tweets out, Brooklyn is making a clean sweep tonight. Brooklyn will sign Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and DeAndre Jordan, league sources, tell ESPN, an hour before the thing actually opens.

Speaker 1 And this is an issue because it turns out that if you're this agency and you're the Knicks like preparing these videos,

Speaker 1 there was a concern about whether they would actually ever see them. Definitely play by all the rules.
Definitely play by all the rules.

Speaker 1 The Knicks obviously handled that, but they were definitely buttoned up in that respect. Nobody's looking for

Speaker 22 the unforced error there.

Speaker 1 We were all throwing our fingers on the table waiting to get the feedback, like knowing that we might have had a thing when the phone never rang for us.

Speaker 23 Kawhi loves it.

Speaker 1 KD's order, like when that never happened, that was,

Speaker 1 I don't know, yo, to this day, I don't know who got what. I don't know anything.

Speaker 1 And what I did was I made some more calls. We, as a show, decided to keep reporting this story.
And I got to Rich Kleiman, Kevin Durant's agent and longtime business partner and New Yorker.

Speaker 1 And I said, Had you ever seen any of this stuff, the KD stuff? And he said, quote, nah, he never saw it.

Speaker 1 I haven't even discussed with him. But as a native New Yorker, I just saw it yesterday, and Wu-Tang can do anything, and I'll like it, end quote.

Speaker 1 But what we are learning, given that Kawhi Leonard clearly was being, Frank, the Clippers were courting Kawhi Leonard

Speaker 1 long before 6 p.m. Yep, on free agency opening day.

Speaker 1 And the Nets clearly, and Kyrie and KD, they had been planning something long in advance. And then weirdly, what I'm here to say is that I found out that the Knicks really didn't tamper enough.

Speaker 1 I don't think. I agree.

Speaker 1 All right. So if you go back to LeBron, I wrote Charles Oakley's book for him.
Thanks for reading it. And Charles Oakley talks about talking with LeBron the summer before

Speaker 1 free agency. And he told Charles, I'm going to go to Miami.
Charles knows Pat Riley. He ran into him in Miami, told him that.

Speaker 1 Pat Riley kind of ignored it because he was worried about tampering and things like that. I remember walking into, running into Mike Miller.
Mike Miller said he ran into LeBron like in May.

Speaker 1 LeBron saw him and he said, what are you going to do? I'm going to go to Miami.

Speaker 1 The players all know.

Speaker 1 It's amazing how they all know because the Kevin Durant and Kyrie stuff, February was going to the Knicks. And then all of a sudden by March, April, there was this shift where people were saying.

Speaker 1 They're both going to go to the Nets. I was saying, really? Yeah, no, they're going to go to the Nets.
And by now, you've heard the Knicks, but everyone said, no,

Speaker 1 they don't want to go.

Speaker 1 They're going to go to Brooklyn and play for the Nets. So all this stuff that they do, the intentions are good.
Yes. But all the stuff behind the scenes, it's just like your guy, Uncle Dennis.

Speaker 1 We all heard, it was like the, I always feel like it was the Mark Maguire, Barry Bonds thing about guys who are using steroids, but everybody in the media ignored it.

Speaker 1 Everyone was hearing Dennis is asking for the moon. He's asking for the moon.
Everyone ignored it. Obviously, the Clippers gave him the moon because that's where he ended up.
Right. I love that.

Speaker 1 Also, as a regular fan, as a casual, you're just really thinking like everyone plays by the rules. The tampering rules are so serious.
No one's sending any text messages, no conversations happening.

Speaker 1 And then, once you actually get into business and you start meeting, people are like, Yo, I know where I'm going to be three years from now. Yeah, you don't have to recruit me.

Speaker 1 I know exactly where you're like, Oh, it's not all hunky-dory like that. And also, as you said, we need to tamper more.
We need to tamper more. What did Fred Van Fleet just recently say?

Speaker 1 He said that when we first met with Kawhi, he said it's gonna be a one-year thing. I'm not gonna be here next year.
He did what he came to do, yeah, yeah, and

Speaker 1 he said it from day one: I'm not staying here.

Speaker 1 You know what? He never said he was going to stay.

Speaker 1 From day one,

Speaker 1 I don't know why they traded for me. I don't want to be here.
I'm not staying here. So a lot of us thought it was between Toronto and the Clippers.
Obviously, it wasn't. Still a great trade, though.

Speaker 1 Would you trade a guy for one year to win a championship if you haven't, if you've never won one and they probably won't win one ever again? It's worth it. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Kawhi thing, though, what we're finding out is that it is very likely that the first time Kawhi, and Kawhi,

Speaker 1 if you're not subscribing to Papalatori finds out, he gives him a lot of information about your own life.

Speaker 1 But the first time he may ever see this is this way. Yeah.
Like the, so KD never saw that. Kyrie probably never saw that.
Kawhi probably never saw that.

Speaker 1 Like they were onto the, they weren't opening up like Nick's marketing.

Speaker 1 recruiting packages. Also, when you got the key, did he even know it was a USB stick?

Speaker 1 Also, you can't just be opening, you can't just insert a USB stick into a random computer if you don't know where it came from.

Speaker 1 So the Knicks are so good at getting famous people into the building as fans. Yes.

Speaker 1 But the question of like, how do you actually leverage what makes this city special from the entertainment perspective?

Speaker 1 This is now a decade of trying to do this stuff, but not quite getting the game correct.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And so I don't, yeah, Frank, I don't know.
I don't know. Do you the Knicks now are in a different place? Yes.
Deesus is celebrating.

Speaker 1 I mean, Deesus is, I believe, now working for the United Arab Emirates. You know, I knew ever since I was a young child growing up, I've always wanted the NBA Cup.

Speaker 1 I just remember growing up in the Bronx. And, you know, it's finally come true.
So I have to pay them back.

Speaker 1 He wants a first-class ticket on Emirates. That's why he keeps mentioning Emirates NBA Cup.
They have great Emirates. It worked for Eric Adams.

Speaker 1 Where is.

Speaker 1 Can Eric Adams pop up in a Knicks recruiting video at some point?

Speaker 1 You're going to have to tape it in New Jersey. I think he's in Fort Lee, right? Isn't that where he lives?

Speaker 1 No, right now he's like, he is like a parent whose child is going away to college. He's out every night.
He's going on trips. Like, we don't know.
New York won every morning.

Speaker 1 They're like, he might be here.

Speaker 1 Your boy will do it. Zoran? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. And he's a footballer, too.
Yeah. Listen, he sent that tweet out.

Speaker 1 right when the game ended yesterday he did not have to wait for the pr people he didn't you know eric adams would have gotten a role he would be like oh we're proud of our champions from Barclay Center, and then it would have edited the tweet and been like the mass in Square Garden and something like that.

Speaker 1 So, we got some things going on here. We're in a new place.
You think professional athletes at that level, that much money, really care about guys like actors and singers and rappers recruiting them?

Speaker 1 I don't think they do.

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Speaker 1 Shout out to Harry S. Truman High School in the Bronx.
I went there in elementary school because my elementary school had asbestos. So we had to be on the top floor of Harry S.

Speaker 1 Truman High School for a year. We did not see the sun.
We were were just indoors.

Speaker 1 I put in security cameras there. Did you? I helped my father run the line.
This is like a million years ago. And you're right.
I kept thinking, there's no windows in this. There's no windows.

Speaker 1 It was like a prison. No, it's a greatness ring.
The true greatness ring is the top. That's the mecca.
That's a real mecca.

Speaker 1 The next video there's because I have like little kids like, yeah, come to school here, man. We got no windows.
We see a window for a championship. And I'm like a punk kid growing up along the island.

Speaker 1 I'm like, wow, they need security cameras in the high school. Wow, what's going on?

Speaker 1 There was a lot going on at school. You were laying wire that was

Speaker 1 like my father's second job. So I think I might have got 10 bucks an hour.
I'm not going to say how long ago it was. Dude, I have uncles and family members like, you were laying wire at a young age.

Speaker 1 Doesn't get better than that.

Speaker 1 Don't talk about the athletes. Tell them more about that.
Like, what was the price of copper? Dude, 10 bucks an hour? Listen, you can't beat that. You know, you're on the LIR

Speaker 1 smoking a cigar.

Speaker 1 I'm in the beer car.

Speaker 1 You're waiting for my tracks. Like, hey, what's going on tonight? Got to change that to make it again.
Oh, man. Dog it.
Oh, is it peak time?

Speaker 1 I tried to cost more money at peak. He knows.
I guess what I'm left thinking at the end here. Well, I guess I'm thinking about a poet, a poet by the name of Robert Frost.
Yes. How interesting.

Speaker 1 Who once said in The Road Not Taken, I shall be telling this with a sigh somewhere ages and ages hence.

Speaker 1 Two roads diverged in a wood. And Kawhi,

Speaker 1 Kawhi took the one last traveled by, and that has made all the difference. Robert Frost.
Well done.

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Speaker 1 that's his legacy. And running wire and

Speaker 1 Harry Truman High School. And LI.

Speaker 1 Listen, I could call Mike Francesca and talk about this for an hour. I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you understand how good a job like that was? Like, that's generational, Mike.

Speaker 1 I dare say that Harvey Weinstein, much like Frank Isola and Desus Nice,

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Speaker 36 Talking about guns with others might not always feel comfortable, but it could save a life. Here's a way to start a conversation.

Speaker 36 Your family is going over to your neighbor's home for dinner for the first time. How would you ask if there are any unlocked guns in the home?

Speaker 1 Hey!

Speaker 23 Hey, we're so excited for tonight.

Speaker 1 Before we come over, though, may I ask if there are any unlocked guns in your home? Our guns are stored securely, locked in a safe that the kids can't access.

Speaker 1 Awesome.

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