Inside 2024 - Preview | Favreau + Tommy Talk Election Night

Speaker 1 Hey there, I'm John Favreau. I'm Tommy Vitor.
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Speaker 1 Each monthly episode of Inside 2024 will feature a rotating cast of former White House staffers spilling their campaign trail stories and insights as we look ahead to the 2024 election cycle.

Speaker 2 In this episode, John and I will take you through one of the most stressful, dramatic, dramatic, and sometimes terrible days of the year, Election Day.

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Speaker 3 Pokemon go to the polls.

Speaker 4 Yes, we can.

Speaker 3 We can now project that former Vice President Joe Biden has been elected President of the United States.

Speaker 1 We did it.

Speaker 4 We did it, Joe.

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Speaker 1 As you can hear, I'm here with

Speaker 1 my buddy Tommy. Also, we both were on the Obama campaign, so we're going to talk about that.

Speaker 1 And also here, one of our favorite crooked media producers who's going to be moderating these discussions, Caroline Reston, what's up? Are you or Andy Cohen?

Speaker 3 That's my dream. I want to start today at the end and talk about Election Day.

Speaker 3 And I thought that was a really great place to start because, you know, this show is going to get into the nitty-gritty of what it's like to be on a campaign.

Speaker 3 But I feel like our listeners, and honestly, we need to be reminded of what's at stake, what we're fighting for, and remember the like amazing glory it is to win and the gut-wrenching feeling of losing.

Speaker 3 When I mentioned this topic to you guys, you both had like very skeptic, nervous, stressed out feelings about it. So when you hear about election day,

Speaker 3 what are the emotions that stir up for both of you?

Speaker 2 Well, the thing about election days that are, that is weird for people who do what we did, which is communications work, is that there's nothing to do.

Speaker 2 You just sit around and you stress out and you read exit polls and you follow the news and you vote. But like mostly you're just hurry up and waiting.

Speaker 2 Now, it's different for the field team because they're out. They're doing a huge GO TV effort.
They're knocking on doors.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You asked what election day is like and anxiety is the first word that comes to mind.
In fact.

Speaker 1 like so much anxiety that you just saying election day, like I had the feeling again of like, oh shit, it's here. Because there's, first of all, there's nothing to do on Election Day.

Speaker 1 Like I said, if you do the work that we do. And so you're just like, but you have to go to work and you're sitting around and it's like everyone's asking everyone else, you hearing anything?

Speaker 1 You hearing anything? You got any reports? How about early vote reports?

Speaker 1 How about reports from early voting in precincts? And

Speaker 1 it just goes on and on and on and on.

Speaker 3 These first exit polls were released just a short time ago. The initial survey shows the election day.

Speaker 5 These early exit poll results are based on voter interviews before election day

Speaker 1 so if you're in the white house and you're watching the numbers right now uh what does it tell you and what do you do well some brutal numbers for president biden right there dan and i have to say and like none of the information is super helpful or or very illuminating about like what the final tally is because not everyone has voted yet but uh it does not stop you from asking people what you've heard josh earnest said that uh looking at exit polls is like hooking up with your ex you know you shouldn't do it you do it anyway you feel terrible afterwards and it's just sort of like this awful ritual that you're doomed to repeat.

Speaker 3 On election day,

Speaker 1 where

Speaker 3 what is like a day in the life? Like you're waking up. Where is, obviously, what if I was asleep the whole time?

Speaker 1 Where honestly, that would have been preferable.

Speaker 3 Where are the staffers? Where is the candidate? Like, so in 2008, you guys were in Chicago. That's where Obama was too.
But were you guys in the office with him for the full day?

Speaker 1 We were in the office. Tommy and I were in the office.
He was not in the office. Well, he voted.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he was home and then he voted.

Speaker 1 Didn't Bill Ayers come to this?

Speaker 2 So, so, this is the funny story. So, Jen Saki is with the press pool.
They're all waiting to watch Obama go in and vote. This guy named Bill Ayers shows up.

Speaker 2 Bill Ayers was a huge point of controversy in this election because he was part of an organization called the Weather Underground back in the day.

Speaker 1 We have a great podcast here at Crooked Media called Mother Country Radicals that's about this.

Speaker 2 Domestic terrorist group. Yeah.
Blew shit up, right? And they had a relationship.

Speaker 1 For the greater good. For the greater good.

Speaker 1 Debatable.

Speaker 2 So anyway,

Speaker 1 moving forward. So they, they,

Speaker 2 they knew each other back in the day. They like were socially friends at the University of Chicago.

Speaker 1 Some might say they were paling around.

Speaker 2 Yeah, paling around Terrace is Sarah Palin famously said. So he shows up, and that was like the big brouhaha of the day is Saki emailing being like, well, funny story,

Speaker 1 Bill Ayers is here.

Speaker 3 Was that an accident?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Yeah.
But we, as far as I remember, just like sat in that office and were just like refreshing news websites from like 5 a.m.

Speaker 2 until they called in.

Speaker 3 So you're saying you're mostly doing nothing except for reading exit polls that may or may not confirm what you don't or don't want to hear. Correct.
So you're gossiping.

Speaker 3 You're just gossiping. That's a much better analogy.
It's just gossiping. Just chilling.
Which sounds honestly very fun. So, okay,

Speaker 3 Fabs, you were... speech writer.

Speaker 3 Where in the timeline have you written a concession or

Speaker 3 what's the other word oh no victory speech

Speaker 3 speech we had three speeches you have three what's the other one i don't know too close inconclusive yeah inconclusive oh um i didn't forgot you guys did that that sucks yeah there's a lot of um did you ever watch feep yes you know uh selena meyer is best friend who's like well that's a good question i mean i can see how it can go one way but what if it went the other way do you remember her rebecca she was so annoying um and as i mentioned really models like a candidate friend quite well by the way yeah 100 um so are there any times during that day where you're editing speeches based off of what's happening?

Speaker 3 How does that process work? Are you on the phone with Obama? Are you working with your

Speaker 3 team? Like, how does that work?

Speaker 1 So maybe a week before Election Day, we started to write the drafts of the election night speeches.

Speaker 6 Now, you guys may argue with me on this, but again, I'm just trying to give a little bit of a,

Speaker 6 I want this to be populous, but I want a little bit of a flavor of forward-looking stuff.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the way it went was I took the lead on the victory speech.

Speaker 1 I think Sarah Hurwitz wrote, who was one of our speechwriters. She had been Hillary Clinton's speechwriter.
Then we hired her.

Speaker 1 And then she came with us to the White House and became Michelle Obama's speechwriter. She's a fantastic speechwriter.

Speaker 1 She took the lead on the concession speech. And then I forget who did the Too Close to call speech, but that was similar to the

Speaker 1 short one. It was a very short one.
Yeah. It was like, we're excited about the results.
We still got to wait for all the votes to be counted. We'll talk to you tomorrow kind of thing.

Speaker 1 And so we had all the speeches done. I had sent Obama had them like days before the election on election day, but he was like, I don't want to edit.
I don't want to jinx anything.

Speaker 1 And I'm like too nervous.

Speaker 2 Everyone's so superstitious. Everyone's so superstitious.

Speaker 1 So no one gave us edits.

Speaker 1 So Obama did not give me edits to the victory speech until it seemed like we won Ohio and and he won the presidency and then he called with just a couple edits okay yeah so we actually have a clip from that moment and so what you're about to hear is from the documentary by the people and it's Obama calling Favrea with a few last minute edits oh and one paragraph up acts had one edit when it says there will be setbacks and false starts he has there are many who won't agree

Speaker 1 with every decision or policy I make as president and we know that government can't solve every problem.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Who could say over that speech? And why did I see you change the word that to those?

Speaker 3 Are those the important edits you're doing? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, he, Obama would make sort of nitpicky edits like that, just because he's a writer. And so he got into that kind of stuff.
The only, I think I sent that, I sent it around to everyone.

Speaker 1 The people who would really make edits. The most edits were Axelrod, David Axerod, who's our chief strategist.
And once in a while, Robert Gibbs would make an edit.

Speaker 1 David Plough, the campaign manager, would make an edit, but really no one else dug in, unless it was a policy speech. That was not a policy speech.
So that was just most of that was just me and him.

Speaker 3 Do you remember any like specific part of that? That was a victory speech, but is there a specific part you remember that you like really loved or what's your idea?

Speaker 1 Well, a couple of days before, when I was trying to figure out an ending to the speech, I read a CNN story about

Speaker 1 this woman named Ann Nixon Cooper who had waited in line in Atlanta to vote for three hours,

Speaker 1 which is crazy that she had to wait three hours to vote, but also it was notable because she was 105 years old.

Speaker 4 This election had many firsts and many stories that will be told for generations. But one that's on my mind tonight is about a woman who cast her ballot in Atlanta.

Speaker 4 She is a lot like the millions of others who stood in line to make their voice heard in this election, except for one thing. Ann Nixon Cooper is 106 years old.

Speaker 1 And so I thought about, I thought this was a great way to end the speech, to talk about like when she was born, right? She couldn't vote because she was black and because she was a woman.

Speaker 4 She was born just a generation past slavery. A time when there were no cars on the road or planes in the sky.

Speaker 4 When someone like her couldn't vote for two reasons, because she was a woman. and because of the color of her skin.

Speaker 1 And then like all the things she'd seen in the century that she was in America and all the progress she'd seen.

Speaker 4 And tonight, I think about all that she's seen throughout her century in America.

Speaker 1 The heartache and the hope, the struggle and the progress. So we figured that's how we'd end the speech.
And then after talking about all the things she'd seen, we'd do the yes, we can refrain.

Speaker 4 And this year, in this election, she touched her finger to a screen. and cast her vote.

Speaker 4 Because after 106 years in America, through the best of times and the darkest of hours, she knows how America can change.

Speaker 4 Yes, we can.

Speaker 1 So I wrote this whole thing. He called me, like we just saw in that clip.
And as soon as I hung up, Tommy, who was right next to me, was like, oh,

Speaker 1 you should like call in Nixon Cooper and like let this woman know that she's going to be in this speech. So it was like, oh, right.
I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 1 And so we had our researchers like find, locate her, find her number.

Speaker 1 And so I called her and

Speaker 1 like a very frail woman picks up the phone and I was like, hi. And I explained to her who I was and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, and Senator Obama's going to mention you in the speech and because he's really moved by her story. And she's like, Is it going to be on TV?

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh yeah, it's going to be on TV. And then she was like, she stopped and she thought and she was like, what channel is it going to be on?

Speaker 1 And I was like, it's going to be on all the channels.

Speaker 1 And then she stopped and she was like, I'm so happy. I'm so proud.
And it was like right at that moment that they called the race.

Speaker 6 11 p.m. on the East Coast, and we have news.
Barack Obama will be the 44th President of the United States.

Speaker 1 And so everyone's like cheering and yelling and clapping. And I was like under the desk trying to like talk to Anne Nixon Cooper before he went at it.
It was really, it was a cool cool moment.

Speaker 2 Kind of like emotional to think about all this shit, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. It's a long time ago, but I always, it's a, it's an emotional moment.

Speaker 3 I mean, I wasn't even there and I felt like I want, I wish I was there. Like it just felt really emotional and special.

Speaker 3 Talking a little bit more about the day, Tommy, I know you worked with the press. On that day, like what's the relationship like between the campaign and this press?

Speaker 3 How much are you guys speaking to each other? How much are you kind of leaking

Speaker 3 temperament in the headquarters? What does that look like?

Speaker 2 Well, so my job in Iowa, I was the Iowa press secretary, and then they said, come back to Chicago headquarters. We're about to beat Hillary.
We need you to do rapid response against John McCain.

Speaker 1 Ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 What, like four or five months later, we're still campaigning against Hillary. Eventually, we win the primary.
So then I become a rapid response person.

Speaker 2 And my job was like, go after the McCain campaign all day, every day. So

Speaker 2 that's just a way of saying, like, my job was kind of done. in terms of press.
So I'm just gossiping with people. I'm just trading information, right?

Speaker 2 There is a pool of reporters that follow Obama around wherever he goes. Jen Saki was usually with them.
So she's like in a van with them, following his movements and then hanging out.

Speaker 3 We found this one clip of you. And I believe this is when you're working in iOS.
It's you and a reporter. And

Speaker 3 I always had an idea that there was a very formal relationship between campaign people and reporters. And the chumminess was very shocking.

Speaker 7 Yeah, just got another one for the Boston Club. Hey, man.
How are you?

Speaker 8 I've been reading you forever. I've been swearing about Boston sports.
Have a fun. We just stick it to us on that crap lobbying story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I knew you wouldn't do that.

Speaker 8 That's such bullshit.

Speaker 8 When are we going to move past the gotcha story?

Speaker 3 Oh, come on. That was...

Speaker 7 Here's the reason it's a bullshit story.

Speaker 1 Can I just say what a good spokesman Tommy was and that like highlighted it, that clip? He like goes up to Scott Holman. He's like super friendly.
Oh, from Boston, Rita River.

Speaker 1 What the fuck with that story, blah, blah, blah. And then grabs the candidate and brings him to the local Iowa

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 fucking.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what was the counting contest?

Speaker 1 Oh, the colonel counter contest. Yeah.
Brings him over to the colonel contest to get the like local hit in Iowa, which is way more important than whatever the Boston Globe.

Speaker 1 That was the only thing I cared about. Yeah.

Speaker 2 My job was like, what does the Iowa press need and how can I beg, borrow, and steal to get it? And it just meant like getting

Speaker 2 the reporter campaign relationship is politics like anything else. They're not like a special breed of people.
They're human beings. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like, none of them wake up in the morning wanting to do a bad job. None of them wake up biased.
But like, we all make mistakes. We all have our biases.

Speaker 2 So, like, if you're friendly to people, if you're nice to them, if you give them access, treat them like a human being, like, you're going to do better.

Speaker 2 And Obama got that intuitively and was like, yes, I want to make time for them. But a lot of other candidates refused to.
Like, Hillary wouldn't take questions for months.

Speaker 2 They planted questions at one point. We sourced that out and and planted some stories about it.

Speaker 3 So we're at, you know, the polls are closing. Everything's too close to call.
What are you guys doing? But most importantly, what are you drinking?

Speaker 1 Here's what I remember.

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