#595 - More Than A Family Feud - Quincy, Illinois

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This week, in Quincy, Illinois, detectives are suspicious of a horribly murdered woman's husband, partly because of a comment made about her on the game show Family Feud, but a mountain of evidence will reveal what really happened.

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Okay.

Let's go on a trip, shall we?

We are going to Illinois this week, much like we will be going to Illinois soon for the live show.

This is in Quincy, Illinois.

This is in far western Illinois, on the Mississippi over there.

Yeah,

it's kind of central and western, you know, over there.

On the river, it's about two hours and 15 minutes to St.

Louis, about an hour and 50 to Springfield, Illinois, if you want to go in there.

And it's about four hours and 40 minutes to our last Illinois episode, Oak Park, Illinois, which is right outside Chicago, where we'll be May the 17th at the Riviera.

That episode was Dreaming of Murder.

Remember that person?

I dreamt of this murder.

And they're like, oh, hands behind your back.

Yeah.

You probably.

That's nice.

Yeah.

This is in Adams County, area code 217.

And the nickname here, no motto, but they do have a nickname.

They call this Gem City.

Yeah.

Gem City, baby.

I don't know.

It's totally outrageous.

It's going to say it's totally outrageous.

Gem City.

That's absolutely with a G.

So a little bit of history here.

After 1800, it was called the Bluffs.

That was the name of the town, the Bluffs.

In 1825, they renamed their town Quincy and became the seat of Adams County.

And both of these, by the way, both the county and the town were named after, at that time, newly elected president John Quincy Adams.

There you go.

So you got Quincy and the name of of the

newly elected.

They're fucking naming just minting places

already.

That's it.

They loved it.

They were real happy with his election, apparently.

I was looking at landslides.

He got fucking trounced in an election,

like one of the worst in the history of the country.

Yeah, there's the look back.

There's a lot of.

He got like one elector.

Yeah.

He did like, he did like a Mondale.

It was really bad.

Interesting.

So there's been some disasters here, as always in the Midwest.

1945, in April, a tornado ripped through the business district of Quincy and screwed up everything, damaged the courthouse.

It was also so severe that it blew the roof off the courthouse,

damaging it,

damaging it beyond repair.

Now it has no top at all.

The whole thing came off.

The whole lid.

Whole lid.

In 1976, three improvised explosive devices were detonated at Colt Industries Inc.,

Quincy Compressor Division plant.

A team of specialists from Fort Leonard Wood in the area

in support of the Secret Service during the, there was a visit by at that point, Bob Dole was running for president.

I know he ran in 96, too, 20 years later, but he was running in 76 also.

So

the Secret Service was there because he was doing a visit there, so they helped too.

A fourth unexploded IED was discovered by Quincy firefighters during a search of the plant.

What the fuck?

Yeah, that is fucked up.

During the examination of the device, it detonated.

Oh my God.

Killing the team supervisor, Sergeant Major Kenneth Foster Sr., and seriously injuring the Illinois state arson inspector as well.

Holy shit.

Jesus Christ.

Then.

Did you find out who placed it?

We don't know.

No idea.

What?

No clue.

It blew up all the evidence.

During the Mississippi River flood of 1993, obviously this place was hurting here.

Then in June of 2008, another flood submerged much of the riverfront and low-lying regions.

So, not great.

This is not a good place to be.

But it's been twice recognized as a, quote, all-America city and is a participant in the Tree USA program.

In fall of 2010, Forbes magazine listed Quincy as

eighth in the best small city to raise a family category.

Or lose a child.

Just away from the river.

That's

as long as you're not ripping.

Illinois Joplin.

This is wild.

So let's get some reviews of this town because we don't know what the hell's going on here.

We've never been here.

Most of you out there have probably never been there, also.

So let's find out what we're talking about.

Reviews.

Here's five stars.

There's some fun reviews here, too, by the way.

My husband and I moved to Quincy in 2005.

Quincy has been a great place to raise our children, find employment, receive top-notch medical care, and community for all with an exclamation point.

You know, live, raise your children, work, go to the doctor, do everyday things, eat, things like that.

Five stars, I think that it is a very friendly place to live.

I've grown up here, and there hasn't been anything awful here.

Most people get along, most people get along just all around a good place to live.

Sorry, that has no punctuation in it, so I have to figure out the end of the sentences.

Except for that attempted bombing in fucking 1976, Dole assassination attempt.

I don't think that that that was, I don't think they were alive for that, probably.

It seems like.

Three stars.

Small town in the middle of nowhere.

And they use the less popular version of nowhere, N-O-Where.

You don't see that very often.

Not a lot to do besides bowling, driving around, and maybe catching a movie.

There are numerous bars and even a few nightclubs.

Crime rate is increasing in the good parts of town.

Rent is high compared to some bigger cities.

We'll be the judge of that.

We'll give you stats later.

Here's one star.

Okay, this is great.

As corrupt as it gets.

There you go.

There we go.

The haves rule over the have-nots.

People are either nauseatingly

conservative or disgustingly liberal with no in-between.

The mall is on its last breath.

All of that, and then the mall we're going to talk about.

The mall is like a JCPenney barely hanging on, a things remembered, and like a bunch of cell phones.

And it's a lot of cell phone case kiosks.

That's all it is.

Beep.

And then the last line.

And then the last line, the mayor is a midget.

What?

I don't know.

And I found a picture of him.

He looks pretty normal to me.

I don't know, right?

I don't know.

He's probably a little chubby, fat, Midwestern guy.

The guy looks like Bob from the steakhouse, doesn't he?

Not a midget.

That's weird.

Okay.

Next up, one star.

The people in Quincy are dishonest, crooked, and deceitful.

Not the government now, the people themselves.

Those all mean the same thing.

Yeah, that's liars.

I would never recommend setting foot near it.

Not even in it, near it.

Not near, yeah.

To avoid interacting with the worst human beings on the planet.

The worst on the planet.

Worst on the planet.

Okay, not the, interesting.

And then finally, one star.

This place is unkind.

I was collateral in a meth deal when I was three.

Collateral?

You hang on to this for a minute.

I'll get you your money, I swear.

That's what that is.

I don't have any money, but take my baby.

I'm judging my town by my parents' behavior.

Well, that someone else was willing to take that.

I guess

that's the transactional nature of how things work here.

Someone else was willing to take.

Your parents were willing to let you be held for a minute until they got the cash for their meth.

If I'm a meth dealer, I don't want to watch somebody's toddler.

That sounds awful.

Fuck out of here and bring me money.

What are your car keys?

That's what I'm saying.

Most of the population here.

That's right.

Most of the population here don't take care of homes or have jobs.

There are many hiring signs, odd fashion choices with hardly any attractions.

Odd fashion.

People don't dress well here either.

Do not recommend.

Well, yeah, you're going to be held collateral in a meth deal.

Sure.

That is weird.

Population: 39,687 brokered meth children live here, apparently.

Fascinating.

A lot more women than men, 52% women.

So that's way over the national average.

I don't know what that means or whatever, but median age here is 40.

It's usually about 38, so that's pretty close.

Little less, a little under the national average as far as married goes and things like that.

More people are single with children.

You know, that sort of thing.

It basically doesn't, all the stats don't say this is a real wealthy, you know, upscale area.

It says it's, you know, kind of a middle-class area, got some lower

parts, got some poor people, it's that kind of place.

Race in this town, 89% white, 6.1% black,

0.9% Asian, 1.6% Hispanic.

So there's that.

And then religion here, though, they are religious as shit here.

Are they?

50-50 is the norm.

Here it's 78%, which is one of the highest we've ever gotten outside of Utah.

That's crazy.

And the highest of all of them are other Christian faiths.

Oh, okay.

I don't even know.

I I don't even know.

That's crazy because they have Lutheran, Methodist, Pentecostal, Presbyterian.

They have all of these listed.

So, what other one is there?

I don't even know what it is, but it's something they're there.

It's dominant.

It's dominant.

Unemployment rate here is a little lower than the national average.

It's under 5% here.

So, saying everybody doesn't have jobs isn't really true.

Seem to be employed.

Median household income here is low, though.

$50,857 a year.

You're working, just making nothing.

Not making a lot.

The average is about $69,000.

So that's not good.

Cost of living, $100 is regular average.

Here it is $77,000.

And the low one is housing.

Median home cost here, $144,300.

Okay.

Very low.

So if we've convinced you, damn it, that you've got an extra three-year-old and a hankering for some meth, we have for you the Quincy, Illinois Real Estate Report.

The average two-bedroom rental here goes for $830.

So that's low.

That's very affordable.

That's way more than $400 less than the average.

Here is a three-bedroom, one-bath, 792-square-foot house.

I don't know how you fit three bedrooms into 792 square feet.

That's nothing.

800 square feet.

There is one picture of this house, and it's from the exterior, and it appears to be crumbling

from the pictures.

As the seconds tick by, things will fall off of it, it, it looks like there's plywood on the windows or

window holes, as I'm going to call them in this case, because windows denote glass.

Not sure if there's any glass.

It's built in 1872.

Old.

The listing says some TLC could make this a great home or rental.

Also, a bulldozer would help.

Some TLC.

It says metal siding as is.

It is $10,000 for this house.

$10,000.

That's a recent five thousand dollar price cut holy they that's 33 off amazing so sale house everybody yeah here's a two-bedroom two-bath 984 square foot house not awful from the outside looks like a cute little house has a porch and everything it's fine inside whole other story i could

you know that you know the special smell that old people smoking has not regular people smoking elderly people that's what i could smell in here it's it's from the 70s, and it's all, it's not good.

$75,000 for that, though.

Everything's so affordable.

It's affordable.

Here's a five-bedroom, four-bath, 4,953-square-foot place.

God damn, huge.

On three acres, too.

Just a beautiful thing.

They say this stunning, custom-built ranch offers nearly 5,000 square feet of finished living space and is the perfect blend of style, space, and functionality.

It's a nice house, nice house inside, you know, up to date and and all that.

650 grand for 5,000 square feet and three acres.

Three acres.

Not bad.

Not bad at all.

Things to do here.

The Quincy Freedom Fest.

Oh, boy.

That takes place on the 4th of July right there.

Yeah.

That's okay.

Yeah.

It's at the park on the riverfront, so hoping that it doesn't rain too hard.

As long as it don't swell, yeah.

That's right.

They have boots, they have bands, and all sorts of shit here.

Also features a car and bike show and a

bike show and a reading of the Declaration of Independence.

Why not?

What the hell?

And then you end the evening.

The kids love that.

They love hearing things with hearie in them and shit like that.

We the people.

Oh, Christ.

They love hearing antiquated English.

That's their favorite.

In order to form a what?

A what now?

So this is, then they also have new this year, a showcase of anything with V8, muscle cars from all eras it says

Latin dance performers and teachers okay

a pre also a pre they are gonna have salsa teachers come in and give you a preview of some nightclub that's gonna open with salsa dancers

Nancy Calloway's nightclub okay

a taekwondo performance by the local dojo Jesus Christ

I wouldn't want to see that the one up the street from me the the guy running it and his father got busted for molesting kids

I was like, yes, gee, you open doors and say, bring your kids here.

I don't trust it immediately.

So we got that.

If it doesn't have Dietrich Bader dressed up in American flag pants, I don't want to see it.

No, no.

Also, performances from Motley Crew and Poison tribute bands.

Of course.

They're not getting them.

And then another band called Ghost of Judas.

Okay.

And then there's.

Priest covers, probably.

Maybe, yeah, that seems like they probably like to do.

Makes sense.

Then there is the Gem City or Gem City Summer Concert Series.

Here we go.

That's also in July.

And it is

put together with somebody, guy who owns a sports bar.

And they said,

he said, not only are we looking forward to the shows, but we put this together so that people from outside the area can come down to experience what the Quincy area has to offer.

Come for the weekend and catch some great shows, eat at great restaurants in the area and enjoy Quincy.

Come to a 5,000 people tat.

Wait, how many is it?

38,000.

All right.

Stay for the weekend.

Stay for the weekend.

It's hot shit.

July 18th, they'll have Gavin Adcock there.

Jesus.

I don't know who that is.

Looked like he was a country guy.

Yeah, he had a hat.

And then July 19th, this is amazing.

You know who's going to be there?

Who's that?

Brett Michaels.

I was just going to say.

Brett Michaels bald ass is not coming coming to the stage.

He is.

He is.

He is.

That's why when you said that, I was like, bite your tongue, bite your tongue.

Yeah.

They got it.

Bald Michaels.

Bald Michaels.

Two weeks after, literally two weeks after the tribute band will be there.

Do you like these songs?

He'll be here.

He'll be here, you know.

He'll sing every rose.

He's going to do these much better.

Well, about the same, probably.

Let's be honest, dear.

With the fucking extensions.

Materialistic here.

That's my favorite revelation from Rocka Love is that he fucking wears extensions because rock stars can't be barred.

Yeah, yeah.

He goes, I'll just, he tried to Hulk Hogan and I'll just put a fucking bandana on.

And he seems to get

sows shit in there.

Oh, man.

So crime rate in this town, what we are interested in, property crime is about 20% higher than the national average.

Wow.

I don't know what's going on here.

It's what do you

have?

Sometimes you don't pay for your baby.

That's true.

And then violent crime, murder, rape, robbery, and of course assault.

The Mount Rushmore of crime is just slightly above average, but pretty close.

But still, I mean, average is the whole country with big cities and all that, so this makes no sense.

That said,

let's talk about some murder, shall we?

Here we go.

Let's do this.

Okay, let's open up here talking about a young lady,

Rebecca Bernadette Postel.

Hell yeah.

Becky, she goes by.

I would too.

Oh, Becky.

That's very 80s name, too, Becky.

Becky Bernadette.

How many girls did you go to elementary school with named Becky?

Oh, my God.

There's always like four girls in class named Becky, three named Lisa, four named Michelle.

And then there'd be like, you know.

There's a reason it's at the beginning of Sarmix-Alot song.

It's a very popular fucking name.

Very especially for white ladies, yeah.

So she is born in Quincy.

Becky's a Quincy girl, born and raised.

Real smart, real like kind of.

socially smart and academically smart young lady she is here.

Her parents are Bill and Bernadette.

So she's got her mom's name as a middle name.

She's got one sibling, a sister named Sarah.

And she went to Payson Seymour Elementary School, then went to Quincy Notre Dame High School, which sounds like a Catholic school, doesn't it?

She's very Catholic.

The family's very Catholic, by the way.

Yeah.

Whole family.

It is.

That would make sense.

She was named valedictorian.

Best one.

Best one at the private school.

So, you know, she's pretty smart.

And

also, but she's not a nerd either.

She's real socially good, too.

People, people like her.

She's, you know, has a great personality.

So she's got a lot going for her.

Valedictorian with a good personality.

And she's really pretty, too.

So she's got like, I mean, damn, blonde hair.

Yeah.

I mean, doing great.

Blonde and smart.

That's good shit for her.

It's a nice place to be in what year?

88?

Well, if I 98 would be when she graduated, 99, something like that.

It's a pretty good place to be in there.

Not bad.

Yeah, it's pretty damn good.

So then she graduated cum loud, uh, we'll skip the jokes from Quincy University with a bachelor's degree in biological science and a minor in chemistry.

God damn, so she's she's getting good grades, yeah, and she's not just getting doing taking easy classes or trying to graduate easy.

This is

that's that's hard.

Um, she also meets a young man, not going to be romantically involved with him at the moment, but meets a young man and becomes friends with him while she's in college, a guy named Timothy Wayne Bleifnik,

B-L-I-E-F-N-I-C-K.

Sometimes you just wish you could take your wife's name.

Jesus, Bleef.

Well, you can.

I mean, there's no rules against it, but Blefnik is common.

You're just looking for anybody else.

And my last name is Petrogallo, so trust me.

It's rough, but Blefnik is.

Weird.

It's a tough one.

He's born in 1983, so he's a little bit younger than her, about a year and a half younger than her, but not too much.

Now, Tim,

through this time of college and around college and after college, he has a couple of minor brushes with the law here.

In 2002, in August, he is arrested for operating an uninsured motor vehicle and failure to reduce speed properly or whatever.

He didn't probably slow down through a construction zone and got pulled over and didn't have insurance.

So there you go.

Sometimes this shit's expensive.

That's what happens.

Now, later on, after they know each other pretty well here, in 2006, he's also arrested for a DUI

at the time, too.

In the Midwest, you got to be hammered.

In Illinois, yeah, you really got to be wrecked there.

So he probably hit something or some shit.

So now Becky gets her, you know, has her college degree.

She starts a career working for San Sanofi Aventis, which is a pharmaceutical sale firm where she's a pharmaceutical rep.

So you know she's pretty.

Yeah.

She rolls her little suitcase in there and, you know, all that shit.

Here's a CPAP machine.

Take seven.

You know the women who are pharmaceutical sales reps.

They all look the same.

They're all blonde and pretty and thin and, you know, well-spoken and all that because they have to speak to doctors.

So they have to be actually smart.

They have to be able to speak.

That's why she has all those degrees.

She has to be able to speak about the, you know, what they have and in an intelligent way, not like I'm doing now.

So, unlike me.

So talk about these thingies.

These thingies there.

So about two years after graduation, Becky and Tim start dating.

So she's already started her career, he started his career, and, you know, they start dating.

They get together and

they're having a nice little time here.

Now, 2009, they get married.

Oh.

Oh, yeah.

It moved quickly, too.

Tim's under 30, though.

They're doing great.

That's smart.

That's not bad.

At 28, well, they're smart, educated people.

They're not like us who got married when we were young because we, you know.

Because we knocked people off.

Yeah, yeah.

This is different.

It's a different story.

Actually, mine came later, but that's fine.

Yeah, you know, you got married because there was a problem.

There was something going on.

Something happened in there.

There was a problem.

So her sister, Sarah, Becky's sister Sarah, was there, and she said, Becky's wedding was beautiful.

She was so happy.

She also said Tim was a responsible guy.

He had a great job.

They had a house.

She was over the moon.

Two, you know, this is great.

Young couple, both doing very well in their careers,

educated.

I mean, they could, and they're also going to start a family a little later, so they could raise some good kids and have a decent life here, these two.

And they have their first son's born in 2010.

So they have a kid pretty quick.

Pretty quick.

Becky's friend said they were so cute.

They were the first ones on the dance floor, meaning her and Tim, not her and the baby.

That would be weird.

This is his first time.

They were the life of the party.

Not many couples say, I'm ready to have a baby right away.

You know, they were that couple.

They were just so excited to be parents.

And a lot of that is they're pushing 30, too.

They're not 21.

Yeah.

So, you know, that's when you're pushing 30, it's a little different than when you're 21.

Your doctor might warn you.

You don't have a big window left.

That's the other thing.

We don't know what her body or her

condition of her reproductive system.

We have no idea or his either.

We have no clue.

So she quits her job as a pharmaceutical rep to be a stay-at-home mom.

Really?

Yeah, Tim's doing real well.

He's got a very successful career in the recycling industry.

He works for different recycling firms, and later on he'll have his own, too.

And Tim said about this when they got married and everything seemed wonderful.

He said, I thought this was it.

You know, I'm going to be 85 and sitting on a porch in a rocking chair with her talking about how good life was.

So, I mean, the table is set for these people to have just a great life.

Everything's prepared.

Sit around at 85 and wait to die and giggle about how great this has been.

That's right.

Have weird old people sex in the house?

Get real dirty with it.

You know what I mean?

That's supposed to be a nice thought, what he just said, but it just made me real fucking sad.

How a great life was?

Jesus, man.

Great life.

Wasn't it great?

Talking about your memories.

Yeah.

Shit.

I guess if you had 55 years or so beforehand with it, maybe you wouldn't feel so bad.

Yeah.

So

they have a second son in 2012-ish is when their second son is born.

And things started to change a little bit after that, apparently.

Everything wasn't so perfect because through the first born and

everything like that, everyone was like, wow, they were the, you know, the perfect picture of a couple, of the perfect little family.

Two kids will do that.

Second kid and also two young kids.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Two of their two and brand new.

That's dude, that's that's difficult.

That's like my brother.

That's that's his.

I did it.

That's his house.

He's three now or two.

No, he is two.

Same two.

Golly.

Same two, but they're two years apart or whatever.

So that's insane.

They're ripping the house apart.

And two little boys, especially.

It's like, it's wild in there.

So

one's wild.

It feels like a raise.

Yeah.

So

the sister, Sarah, this is Becky's sister, said life with kids is challenging, and there was a distinct shift in their relationship in the years after their second child was born.

She wanted to have her own career again, and that became a point of contention.

She got bored with the kids.

You just stretched that fucking break out two more years.

Yeah, that's the problem.

And after that, I guess she wanted to, once the, she was fine being a stay-at-home mom with the first one.

Once the second one was born, she started getting antsy, I think, wanted to get out of the house.

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She said, and Sarah said, quote, she was very happy with their marriage for probably the first five years.

And then, you know, things started to change.

He got progressively more manipulative and controlling.

He didn't do any of the work ever at the house.

So they're like, he wouldn't wash a dish.

Like, that's the thing.

She's got double shifts now.

She's working with two kids.

Two double

babies.

Yeah.

easy, man.

You got to fucking, it's all hands on deck.

That's that's the thing.

When you have two little kids like that, it's not even a matter of, well, I was working, so you can do this.

It's like, it doesn't matter.

The house is on fire.

I don't care if you're working or not.

Grab a hose, motherfucker.

Let's go.

There's shit all over the carpet, man.

Can you at least clean that while I change these diapers?

Yeah.

Shit, puke.

Cheerios are everywhere.

Just the amount of Cheerios on the floor in this house is remarkable.

Teddy Grams are fucking flying.

It's crazy in here.

It's a lot of shit.

So

then she, but she's going to do it.

She doesn't care.

She gets into nursing is what she wants to get into now.

She's going to switch careers, which is a, I guess she already started out with the biology chemistry background, so I guess it's not that far of a stretch.

Not much translates from there to there, I imagine.

No, but some of it does, sure.

But

knowledge is going to be helpful.

I bet you have to take some of the same prerequisites to get

her degree there and here.

Because I know biology and chemistry is the first things you have to to take if you want to be pre-med.

Okay.

And that's what you're doing.

You got to know this body and know what these chemicals are going to do.

You know what this shit's going to do.

Yeah.

So she went to the Blessing Rieman College of Nursing and Health Sciences, where she graduated summa cum laude and received the Faculty Outstanding Senior Award.

She's amazing.

She's an extra.

She's to school.

God damn it.

Every time she does anything, she is the top person doing it always.

That's just how she is.

They give her information and she retains it.

Yep.

And it doesn't seem like she's like a crazy type A type either that like has to be number one.

It just seems like she's just good at shit and does it.

She just does it.

Yeah.

She just does it, you know?

It's not even like a mental illness.

It's just like a, she's just smart and has and is that talent.

This woman's now 30, 32, and she is absorbing information at a level I couldn't do when I was 16.

When we were four, when you're supposed to be able to learn languages and I, yeah.

She's absorbing information, retaining it, and then spitting it back out of her fucking mouth when asked.

That's amazing.

Not bad.

She gave birth to their third child, another son.

Oh my God.

Another son

during spring break of her senior year and only missed one day of school.

Unbelievable.

She had a baby and missed one day of school.

She's like, let me schedule my baby for spring break.

There we go.

Pencil that in.

I'd take the week off for the flu.

That's what I'm saying.

You know how efficient that is, though, to be be like, I'll just have the baby while I'm off for a week and then, you know, I should be back.

Wow.

Chocolate for spring break.

That's crazy.

She worked.

She ends up getting a job working for Quincy Medical Group in the gastrointestinal surgery that's in that department before transitioning to Blessing Hospital's emergency room, which is, wow.

ER nurse.

Man, ER is a special kind of, that's a special kind of mental makeup you have to have to do that.

Like any kind of doctor, you're going to have have to go, you know, see the insides of people and shit like that.

It's rough, but not knowing what's going to come through the door at any moment and just being ready for it, even if someone comes in with half a head and you've got to try to put it back together is that's remarkable.

You're a specialist.

You see the inside of this particular part all the time.

That's fine.

That's fine.

There's a dealer's choice of what inside you're about to see.

Anything could happen.

Anything.

That's crazy.

It's a buffet of fucking malady.

And so

forearm, toes, heads, everything.

Something up the ass, somebody with a sprinkler key stuck in their forehead, like you name it.

It could happen, and they could be right back to back to back.

Sprinkler key.

How the fuck did that happen?

I don't know.

You're running and trip.

What were you doing?

Who knows, man?

That's what I'm saying.

That's what the ER is.

How'd something get up your ass?

You know what I mean?

How'd you get the sprinkler key up your ass?

It's amazing.

So she is an RN, and she's also a certified trauma nurse specialist as well, a TNS, and a sexual assault nurse examiner as well, an SA.

Oh, my God.

So she's getting all these certifications.

It's pretty impressive, man.

So friends and family, though, say Tim wasn't thrilled with this.

I'd be super proud of her, man.

That's pretty cool.

Why is he not thrilled?

Wouldn't you be fucking?

I'd be like anything that

Sarah knows.

There's a ton of acronyms

to spit out that this woman gets to say she is.

That's amazing.

You're supposed to be proud of your spouse for like success, too.

That's part of it.

Especially that.

Yeah, especially all those things.

But apparently, he's not too thrilled with this.

He doesn't like the career.

The hours are rough, and it's an ER nurse.

You're going to come home probably not in the best mood all the time,

decompressing and things.

Becky's sister said, quote, he was not contributing.

He was not supportive.

He chastised her about the house not being clean.

He never said, can I help you clean the house?

It was always her job.

We called her the single married mother mother because she was not getting much, if any, help from Tim.

God damn, Tim.

Jesus Christ.

Well, he is working.

They're acting like he's not bringing home the lion's share of the money, too, though.

So, I mean, he is working also.

She's an RN with all these certifications on the end of it.

And he's just like.

But they're acting like he's sitting home watching fucking family feud all day.

Yeah.

And Bryce is right, fucking drinking

corn whiskey or something.

He's also out working.

He should come home and help because they're both working.

If they're both working full-time

married mothers,

that's crazy.

If they're both working full-time, it should be definitely a 50-50 affair with the kids at least and helping out with the kids.

At least there, yeah.

Yeah.

So he said, the sister said, and that was the point where she truly believed the marriage was in danger of falling apart.

So

she received at the hospital the DAISY Award, which recognizes the care and kindness nurses provide to their patients.

Right.

So, of course, she's going to win an award.

Now, Tim acknowledges that he wasn't real high on Becky getting back into a career and especially in nursing, but he said it wasn't for his own selfishness or anything like that.

He said he was out of concern for her well-being.

Oh, yeah.

He said, because of the stress piece of it.

And, you know, he was asked, does that mean that were you worried you were going to have to, you know, pick up more of the work with the kids?

And he said, not at all.

I've always been involved with the kids every day.

Oh.

Which not everybody says that's true.

Now,

Becky here,

always, she's very busy, but she still is like volunteers.

She volunteers for shit.

She has three small kids.

Yeah.

An ER nursing job, all those acronym certifications, and she does volunteer work as well.

Where?

At the school.

According to members of the St.

Peter's Grade School Association, where Becky volunteered for years, she was, they called her a tremendous asset, always willing to help her pitch in, whether it was coordinating the mother-son event, which just makes me think of arrested development motherboy.

So don't call, don't do that.

Don't have motherboy.

Planning the teacher conference luncheons or coordinating the school room, school's room mothers.

And she also volunteered at the homeward bound wagon, W-A-G-G-I-N.

Wagon.

Yeah.

Non-profit, all-volunteer animal rescue group.

She volunteers there too.

So she is is busy.

She's definitely doing it.

Yeah.

That's a busy Becky you got going on right there.

The third son is born in about 2017 while all this is going on.

So that's the spring break and all that kind of shit.

So

she's a good mom.

Everybody says a great mom.

She,

wow, she built for Halloween.

Yeah.

She built the kids' Transformers costumes that actually transformed.

She made the kids Optimus.

She made the kids fucking star scream or whatever the fuck.

Like, what the fuck is happening?

Unbelievable.

That's crazy.

That's awesome.

My mom didn't do that shit.

She'd be like,

here's one of those plastic masks in the grocery store with the

plastic apron that goes in front of you there.

I have one of those.

There you go.

Those were terrible.

This is a bad mask.

They smelled awful.

Oh,

you'd smell like plastic for a month after that.

It was horrible.

Thanksgiving, people would be like, Do you smell plastic?

I smell plastic.

What is that?

What does that smell?

He was He-Man two weeks ago.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, it's really bad.

He really wanted to be Optimus Prime, and I didn't have the time to make it, so this is what he smells like.

It's like $4.99.

That's what they were, yeah, like $4.99 pieces of shit.

Stupid elastic things stapled to plastic.

It was a rubber band stapled onto the mask.

That's the height.

And that shit would come off after an hour and a half, and then you have a mask you have to hold onto your face like a fucking idiot.

Or one time that happened to me, and I can't remember who did it.

If it was my grandfather, somebody tied, stretched the rubber band and tied it around the eye hole.

In the eye hole.

So it had a fucking rubber band in the eye.

Rubber band tail.

I looked awful.

I looked like a fucking joke walking down the street, man.

That's extra tight now.

I'm surprised anybody gave me candy.

Like, they weren't just like, this is pathetic.

Get off my property.

I'm not giving you candy.

I'm not even giving you sweet tarts for that.

That's terrible.

Go.

This is the worst costumes ever.

It was so bad.

Then she would also created custom first day of school posters each year for the kids.

Yeah, you got to do that for the photos.

That's interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's true because this is.

later.

This is the 2000, late 2010s.

So this is Instagram.

I forgot about that.

This is some Facebook shit.

Yeah, Instagram for sure.

This is Instagram.

So 2019, Tim is working for Quincy Farm Products.

That's where he got a job.

And he is allowed to work remotely a lot of the time.

So he works from home a lot, too.

Awesome.

Which is good.

So if you have three kids, that's somebody's there to be able to pick them up and do shit.

Now, 2019,

Tim makes a television debut here.

All right.

He, alongside his parents and brothers, went on Family Feud.

Hell yeah.

The Steve Harvey Family Feud, obviously, because it's 2019.

Somebody in his family answered the call.

He

called them, and then he stood next to Steve Harvey in a giant fucking peach-colored suit and did some games.

And blurted out goofy answers while Steve judged the shit out of him,

shaking his head.

And every once in a while said something inappropriate to Family Feud that will be

on all sorts of fucking

attempted viral videos.

Yeah.

Oh, look what Steve Harvey said.

So anyway, Steve Harvey said, all right, Tim, we talked to a hundred married people.

What's the biggest mistake you made at your wedding?

What the fuck, Steve?

That's Steve's question.

You're just asking for trouble.

Is that what the show is now?

They're trying to ruin lives.

I mean,

it's always like family feuds are always the same thing.

There's like the obvious, cheeky answer, and then there's the real answers.

You know what I'm saying?

So it's almost like Hollywood Squares used to be where they'd give a fake answer, except you can't give a fake answer on Family Feud.

You have to give the real answer.

But the lowest answer is always the goofy one that they're like.

That's what he said.

There it is.

So he said, it's always two idiots who said it on the survey.

Right.

It's always two points.

So what's the biggest mistake you made at your wedding?

I don't even know what the top answers for that would be.

The top answer is my spouse.

Well, I mean, like, in reality, though, because there's supposed to be like seven answers.

So what would those answers be?

I danced bad.

I got too drunk.

Yeah, too drunk.

Ate.

Bad toast.

Cut the cake raw.

I don't even know what you would do.

Like, pick the wrong best wife.

Looked to the bridesmaid.

Yeah.

Pork the bridesmaid in a broom closet.

He said, quote, honey, I love you, but I do.

That was, I do was the mistake.

Yeah, that's his joke there.

That's the joke.

Yep.

And then he said quickly, not my mistake, not my mistake.

I love my wife.

And then he said, I'm going to get in trouble for that, aren't I?

Yeah, you are.

You're just trying to score points.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Either way,

so now you didn't get points, and your wife is going to think you're a douchebag.

So you just failed twice on that one.

Now, March of 2020 is when COVID obviously kicks in.

And Becky is a nurse.

So in a hospital.

So that's why.

Oh, boy.

So during this, she begins telling her friends of her marriage problems.

And they're like, listen, sweetheart, we all got problems right now.

You know what I mean?

There's a lot more than this.

There's a whole lot of shit going on right now.

It's wild out there.

I haven't been able to wipe my ass properly in a week and a half.

That's what's going on right now.

I used a squirrel yesterday.

Yeah,

I just used an old shoe.

It wasn't comfortable.

It wasn't comfortable at all.

I've been looking for something soft for a month now.

Yeah.

Went through the family guinea pigs.

That was no good.

You know, they bite.

I drugged my ass on the couch like a dog with worms because look.

It worked.

Got down on the carpet.

They were right.

It's rough and it's red back there.

Let me tell you, the look I got from my dog, too, he was pissed.

He's like, oh, I'm not allowed to do it, but you can.

That's fine.

So this friend of hers at work said, quote, she told me that Tim just didn't want to be married anymore.

I thought, wow, you know, they were like the perfect couple.

And this this was also during COVID.

So a lot of, there was a lot of, people were like,

everything was disrupted.

Yeah.

People are creatures of habit.

Yeah.

People are creatures of habit.

And if their habits get broken, they don't know how to react to it.

They freak the fuck out.

Like, they either stand fuck still and panic, or they get more done because that, yeah, yeah, thriving in it is awesome.

I love it.

I moved like 37,000 times when I was a kid.

So like, I don't give a fuck about things like that.

I was like, oh, let's see what happens here.

Like, you know, I, yeah, shit being weird for me is fine.

So, but other people, they get very set in their life and set in their ways.

January of 2021.

Okay.

So they make it through 2020.

That's good.

In January of 2021, Tim files for divorce.

He files.

He files for divorce.

Yeah.

Wow.

He basically was telling some people that he saw a change in Becky's personality after she became a nurse and he didn't like it, which I don't know.

She seems like the same, she's going to be the same person wherever she is.

Yeah, just based on three kids, and now she changed.

It's a little odd, yeah.

I don't really believe that.

So, he also, this is a quote from Tim, she struggled with patience and stress a lot, which, yeah, emergency room nurse, that's the number one

stress would be the number one probably problem of that job, I would think.

Stress, he said, especially when it came to the kids, and it created some con uh, some conflict.

But

Becky's sister, Sarah, said, bullshit.

Tim's making excuses.

She believes the reason Tim filed for divorce is that he couldn't control Becky.

She said that Becky was a loving mother and tried to salvage the marriage, though.

Sarah said she really wanted to go to marriage counseling with him and he refused.

Oh.

So, yeah, if someone offers to go to counseling and you don't want to go, then you're done with the relationship at that point.

You're saying, I don't want to fix it.

I don't even want to try.

I'm not throwing up your hands and saying, we need to sit down and have a professional walk us through how to either compromise or just get through whatever our differences are.

And if you're not going to, if you're not willing to try that, then yeah, I don't know what you're doing here.

The person you're married to thinks that's the last-ditch effort, thinks you don't have anything left.

That's what they're telling you.

You said, no, no, no, my bags are already packed in the trunk.

I'm fine.

The car's already warm.

It's warm.

I'm taking the rest of the toilet paper, by the way.

Yeah.

So,

according to this, though, it turned pretty contentious pretty quick: the divorce.

They fought about money, the home, the custody of the kids.

It's a lot.

It's just a lot, which is really odd that there would be like, it was very contentious, especially on Tim's side, which is weird because he filed for the divorce.

So you'd think he would be just wanting to get out of it.

You know what I mean?

So during their marriage, Becky purchased a gun, a nine millimeter.

But after they separated, she didn't have the gun anymore.

She couldn't find it.

I don't think she's allowed to have it.

Why?

Well, yeah, you can have it.

Never mind.

Never mind.

There's no

sometimes in divorces when they're contentious,

but there has to be police involvement.

Never mind.

Yeah, yeah, no, there's no

situations or anything.

This was just.

She said she noticed it was gone after he had moved out and they had separated.

So he's like, she said, my gun's gone.

Then she started telling people that she was scared of Tim at certain points.

She told a guy who was a friend of theirs who lived in Ohio, who knew them both very well, a guy named Gary Collins.

She talks about how

he had worked with

Tim in the past and shit like that.

He said that Becky told him Tim was hiding money from her.

And she also told him she did not want

the boys, her sons, to be around Tim's dad, Ray.

And this guy also said one time he talked to her and she was very distraught and crying, and saying that if anything happens to me, it was Tim who did it.

Really?

Now, Collins was a police officer.

Yeah.

So he told her, Well, if you're that concerned about it, you should go get a restraining order.

You know, and here's how you do it.

And told her the path to do that because, you know, she's never really had to file restraining orders against anybody before.

So, September 2021, Becky sends a text to her sister Sarah.

And this text, I've seen the screenshot of this, it says, quote, if something ever happens to me, please make sure the number one person of interest is Tim,

as

that is who would do something to me.

I'm putting this in writing that I'm fearful he will somehow harm me, come after me, or will try something to make to me that takes me away from the kids or the kids away from me.

He's already lied multiple times to paint himself as the victim and me as the perpetrator when it's absolutely the other way around.

No, I have not sent this to mom or dad as I don't want them to be out of their minds with worry.

Okay.

I wish she would give us an example of some of the shit that's making her scared.

There is some stuff here

with this that we'll talk about.

She also said that her sister said that this came from because one of the nurses she knew at the hospital was murdered by her partner recently.

So she was now very worried that she would be murdered too, which is, you know, so there's break-ins in the neighborhood.

You lock your door extra tight.

It's one of those things.

Sure.

So Sarah, the sister, said,

I said, what did he do?

And that

text was prompted by the murder of one of her colleagues, one of the nurses she knew, who was murdered by her partner.

That scared her.

She felt like that could happen, and this is real.

So

Tim said, quote, I never understood where that came from.

We'd get into arguments and sometimes we'd get loud, but that's all it amounted to.

There was no physical things.

You know, everybody argues.

Sarah says she recommended Becky seek help from a domestic abuse organization.

And eventually, Becky files for an order of protection against Tim.

In her petition, she alleged that Tim, Tim, quote, entered her residence without permission.

And also, she said that he repeatedly falsified interactions between the two.

The order of protection was not granted, though.

There was no proof of it.

No proof, no evidence, yeah.

No evidence of any kind of aggression.

You can't just get an order of protection because you don't like somebody.

You know, you have to have a reason.

And, I mean, she probably had a reason to feel that way, I'm sure.

But

a judge needs to see evidence in front of them, unfortunately, in such situations, which makes it hard.

But if they didn't, then people could use that as a weapon against their partners to not be able to see their kids.

And

people would be throwing that back and forth a lot if there was nobody in there.

So not saying Becky would do that, but other people might, you know,

less honest people.

So here's more texts from 2021 here.

In May of 2021, a friend of Becky's named Christine Moore received text messages from Becky.

In one, dated May 7th, 2021, she said, quote, Tim has screamed in my face, shoved me in front of the kids, and has thrown things across the room where the kids and I were standing, punched a hole in the wall.

If things don't really don't go his way, I feel he can be very unstable and unpredictable.

And the thought has gone through my mind on

of it, that's hard to, and the thought that has gone through my mind on of if it's a text, so she might have been bad spelling there, I may need a restraining order.

I'm definitely changing the locks as soon as I can.

She also ended up getting a security system in her house, too.

During that same conversation, she also wrote, the only way to ensure all three children choose him over me is to eliminate me as a choice.

That's what she said.

So then there's another one here, another friend named Nicole Bateman, and this is from a text message exchanged from two days later on May 9th, 2021.

Becky said, quote, Tim told me if I outed his dad,

that he, Ray, the dad, would probably have to move and then he would kill himself.

What is he gay?

We'll talk about it.

She later told the friend that she worried that Tim would take the kids even if she was awarded custody because, quote, he will be pissed and he will do whatever he feels like doing.

She also texted that same friend in September of 2021 saying, quote, a friend and co-worker of mine from the ER was murdered last Friday by her ex.

In that same conversation, Becky wrote, yes, I had literally had a panic attack Friday night thinking Tim is going to come after me and do the same if he continues to not get his way.

She also wrote that Tim had filed for an order of protection,

which she said was based on lies, and she was worried about what else he was capable of.

And she also wrote that her lawyer

She told her lawyer that, quote, Tim's erratic behavior and constant lies facilitate the need for protection.

On top of all of that, he has all of our guns and ammunition, including mine.

Okay.

Okay.

So Becky's scared.

And

like we said, a lot of this, we don't know if it's just because someone at work, you know, divorces are crazy, but who knows?

So there's another woman named Becky here, Becky Spots.

Becky and Becky.

She's Becky's coworker and friend.

Multiple Beckies working as nurses at this hospital.

This is a Facebook messenger conversation they had on June 4th, 2021.

Becky wrote, I am wanting to never have my children around Tim's father alone ever again.

It's gotten to the point that I even hate going to work for fear he will secretly take off with the kids and I won't see them for a long time ever.

And she said basically this, there was a bunch of similar conversations to this, the friend said.

Becky also wrote the following, quote, I truly believe Tim has serious mental health problems and is becoming more vengeful and unpredictable, and it scares me.

But I'm scared to even try to get an order of protection because it will piss him off and he will try to punish me somehow.

And I don't think an order of protection will be issued because they will say his violent outbursts have not been egregious enough and incidents have been stretched out over too long of a period.

Temporary custody has not even been set yet because we haven't been to court and I don't even have exclusive possession of our house.

So I can't even legally keep him away from me or the kids.

It's a very volatile situation.

Yeah, yeah.

He's still legally allowed to come over whenever he wants.

He still lives there, technically.

She said, plus, if I ask for an order of protection, I won't be able to come see my children at his house anymore, and he may cut off their communication with me while they're there, and that scares me too.

Sure.

So she wants to be able to, you know, pop over, see the kids if they're over there.

January 2022, Becky is, I guess, trying to move on from all this here.

She meets a guy named Ted Johnson.

Ted and his Johnson, she meets here.

Yeah, she met Ted's Johnson.

She meets Ted.

Well, they didn't meet the Johnson until summer of 2022.

They were, apparently they met in January, but became romantically involved in the summer of 2022.

Yeah.

I have someone I'd like to introduce you to, he said.

It's Johnson.

Here he is.

Now there's three people in the room.

Yeah.

So the divorce proceedings are taking their toll on everyone here.

In just a year, it's really gotten taxing.

It's really stretched out.

Jesus.

It's taxing.

And they haven't had, like, you know, I haven't been to court and all this.

So, um,

Sarah, the Becky's sister, said Tim's appearance was disintegrating over the course of the divorce.

He didn't even look like the same person that she married.

He became even more vindictive.

He became a very hateful person.

She was convinced that he was willing to do just about anything to prevent her from winning in the divorce.

Oh, God.

Tim asks the court for sole or majority custody of the three children.

But Becky also files motions, and we have some of these here.

Yeah.

Okay.

In his petition, he accuses Becky of repeatedly calling him and demanding to speak to their youngest son.

Okay.

Is it like every three minutes?

Because otherwise it's a mother calling to talk to her young son.

I don't know what's bad about that.

That seems okay to me.

Also accused her of becoming secretly combative at their children's school after he declined to give give her a letter that one of their sons had written to them

and harassing Tim via text message to find out where he was with the children, which where are you with the kids, I don't think is a, it's not a harassing, unless it's every three minutes, it's not harassing at that point.

So Becky filed her own petition accusing Tim of repeatedly entering her home without permission and using the children to access the house and take things.

When she called police over the incidents, Becky wrote in the petition, responding officers told her that she needed a restraining order to present similar situations.

Like, listen, we can't tell the guy to can't come back if he legally lives here.

So legally, his house and possibly some of his shit's there.

So

that's tough for them, you know.

According to the petition, Becky also accused him of cutting down her favorite tree as punishment.

He's mad at her, and he went out and chainsawed her tree down.

That's pretty pretty vindictive.

As punishment for, quote, not doing things he's been asking for for 10 years.

Also, he threatened to toss out a family pet.

Becky, as you know, volunteers in animal shelters and shit, so she likes her animals, obviously.

And I don't think anybody would be okay with that.

You're not throwing out my dog.

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Because she wasn't adhering to a strict workout regime.

What?

Okay, not the dog, Becky.

So So I'm going to throw out the dog because

you're not working out as much as I'd like you to, which is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

Those things don't even make sense.

We're divorced, so this doesn't even matter.

Why is it?

That's not your point.

This was while they were together, I think.

Oh, okay.

Or while they were in the process of breaking up when he was half in and half out, which I'm not in this app,

you didn't meet your goals today.

I'm going to throw the fucking dog out.

I don't know.

That just doesn't make any sense.

No.

At all.

Can't get one to the other.

Did you eat Cool ranch doritos today yes well i'm killing the cat okay like they don't connect at all i don't know how they connect

why is the why is the bunny hanged in the garage well weird i found the cheese nips open and

she also he also or she accuses him of nearly hitting her and one of their children with a garden hose and reel during an argument like the reel for the hose

thing so i don't know maybe he threw the whole hose set up or what when becky told tim she didn't feel safe around it around him and wanted to sleep with one of their children, she wrote that he threw her bedding into the basement.

He took all of her sheets and blankets and threw them into the basement.

There you go.

She said that this is Sarah said his form of torture really was manipulation and control.

All those are true.

That's just weird.

It's just, that's what I mean.

It's all weird shit.

It's all like, it's not stuff.

I don't know if that would get you a restraining order stuff.

Apparently it didn't because she tried to get one, but it's definitely

odd character behavior there for him.

So Tim said, yeah, I was the one that wanted to get out and I tried on several occasions, but there are details that I'm, that are hard to talk about that happened in the divorce.

That's his exact quote.

Like the part where you threw her betting down the fucking stairs.

Take that.

Now your shit's in the basement.

It'll be all moldy soon.

So in the months after he

filed for divorce, that's when all this started happening.

Yeah, she says at one point to a friend, I truly believe Tim has serious mental health problems and is becoming more vengeful and unpredictable.

Tim says, bullshit.

Becky was the one who was becoming vengeful.

She was going full Becky on me and shit.

Like, what am I supposed to do?

He said, she told people I had an affair, which was untrue.

She tried to tell people that I was an alcoholic, which is untrue.

She was telling people these things because she was angry about the divorce.

And he alleged that he sought a water of protection because Becky would stalk and harass him.

Stalk and harass him.

Yeah.

He also referenced an incident to back this up in his mind where Becky had become combative during a disagreement at a parent-teacher night.

This is that letter.

Remember the one, the letter the kid wrote to them, and he said he was keeping it.

Okay.

This is on video, by the way.

He's recording this.

All right.

Tim is.

She says, I'm asking for the letter.

He says, stop.

I'm asking you to stop harassing me and stop following me.

She said, I'm not harassing you.

I'm asking you.

And he said, I will make a copy for you.

And she said, I don't want you to tape me.

Don't tape me.

And he said, then stop doing this.

And she said, don't tape me.

I don't.

And he said, then stop doing this.

And she said, I didn't ask you to tape me.

God damn it.

So, yeah, this is ridiculous now.

These days,

very childish.

He's getting a camera out to record all their conversations, and I'm going to hide this letter from her, and

we're going to argue about it.

It's all you've already embarrassed her on national TV, man.

Haven't you?

Yeah.

Well, luckily, she wasn't there.

At least she wasn't like on TV, too, like standing next to him, having to

eat that shit.

I think it's worse to like use the TV as a way to message her.

Well, then he looked into the camera and was like, my bad baby.

You know, like, I love you.

That's crazy.

So, Tim's divorce attorney said, quote, I don't think anybody was trying to hurt anybody.

I think you have two parents that were having a disagreement and didn't know how to deal with it.

I think it's tip for titan.

That's what I think.

That's what I mean.

That seems about right, I think.

Yeah.

So she said that the judge did not grant the restraining or the order of protection because there was no reason to.

Then they said, we learned that Becky sought an order of protection against Tim.

She didn't want Tim's father, Roy, to be around her kids unsupervised, and that was one of the Ray was one of the issues of the divorce.

Did I say Roy?

Yeah.

Roy?

You love Roy.

Roy.

I guessed Roy.

The judge ultimately did order that Becky and Tim stay away from each other's residences except when exchanging their kids.

Leave each other the fuck alone unless you're dropping the kids off or picking them up.

Yeah.

And in those cases, sometimes you can just do it at a firehouse nearby, not the subplace, an actual firehouse.

I used to be a process server.

I'd have have to serve people in a lot of kid exchanges, and a lot of them are done at the grocery store or at the McDonald's parking lot, or that's where they exchange.

One of my friends have to do it there.

Yeah.

So also the judge ordered Tim to return a nine millimeter handgun that Becky had gifted them when they were together.

Okay.

Interesting.

So

because he liked to shoot.

Sarah, the sister, said he was into, you know, recreational shooting, and she wanted that particular gun back because the gun was in her name.

But he never gave it back to her.

Right.

So here are some more divorce info here.

The finances were particularly contested.

Tim and Becky disagreed on the division of property

and about a half million dollars of marital assets.

Holy.

Yeah.

Becky was planning to testify in the divorce hearing that discrepancies on money that her husband had either taken or

money he had taken or things that he had understated, meaning money he made under vowels.

Didn't put in.

Yeah.

She said that she should be entitled to that.

So

they also said that apparently

Tim's divorce attorney sent a settlement proposal letter to her.

And in the letter, amongst other things, he requested that his father be allowed to have unsupervised contact with the children.

However, Becky viewed unsupervised contact with him, with the father, as a that ended all negotiations right there yeah

and she was ready to put on evidence we'll find out what this is about why the father shouldn't be able to spend time with the children unsupervised and she rejected this settlement proposal okay

now tim has been growing his hair long he's like a real short-haired guy before now he's growing his hair all long he's like long hair at this point in time And Sarah, Becky's sister, said, we had seen through social media the deterioration of his appearance that went hand in hand with the deterioration of his mental state over the course of the divorce.

So if you grow your hair out, that's a deterioration of your appearance.

Oh, listen, James, you're a nutcase.

What the fuck?

Yeah, what am I doing?

Tim said that's not the case, and he was growing his hair out for a fundraiser for cancer research.

That's what he said.

He's going to, he's going to

cut it and donate it.

Yeah, that's what I was doing here.

So that's just so weird.

Yeah, your mental state's deteriorating if you change your hair.

Imagine women change their hair all the time.

Imagine if a husband's brother said, obviously she was going crazy.

She changed her fucking hair.

It was different.

Like, you'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with you, you weirdo?

Sometimes a haircut does signify.

There are some 2 a.m.

bangs.

You're like, Jesus, what are you nuts?

2 a.m.

bangs.

Yeah.

We know the 2 a.m.

bangs.

You just grabbed it and went, ah, and chopped it all off, and it's an inch from your hairline straight across.

That's those are.

Yeah, you got like the baby hair.

Yeah, exactly.

But like, if a woman woman like, you know, changed her style or went with a different color, you wouldn't be like, she's obviously going mentally crazy because she changed her hairstyle.

But if he grows his hair out, he's losing his mind.

It takes so much time, too.

It's like sometimes it's just like maybe you're lazy, don't want to get a hair.

Sometimes you grow it out for locks of love.

There's plenty of reasons to grow it.

Or when you start to be in your 30s

and 30s and 40s, like me, about five years ago, I was like, why do I have short, short hair?

Most of the people I know that are are my age and I hang out with, they're fucking bald.

At least I have hair.

I should grow hair out while I still have it.

You know what I mean?

Fuck, fuck it.

Yeah.

I was like, I'm wasting this hair.

Yeah.

I'm wasting hair.

So I started growing it out just for that.

It's dying purple.

I don't give a shit.

Yeah, I don't know.

Someday it might be gone.

So I'd like to use it while I can.

Yeah.

So anyway, so that's how petty it gets, though.

It's rarely, my point is like, it's rarely a growing out that signifies crazy.

It's usually

fucking

it all off all at once.

that's crazy that's when people like ooh i don't know about that so anyway they have a final divorce hearing they're gonna have the whole divorce trial here set for march 2nd 2023.

here we go okay

now documents show that becky was planning to expose a family secret

She and other witnesses, she says she has witnesses ready to testify that her father-in-law, we'll get his name right, Ray, had a history of, quote, perversion and abusing minor children.

Oh.

Not good.

Including a minor family member, putting a huge strain on Tim, it said.

Now, Becky had gathered

witnesses.

She said she planned to have testify about this that would allege that he had a history of this for many years.

Ray.

Really?

The alleged victims were not Tim and Becky's children, by the way.

Never, not them.

So Becky sought an order of protection against Ray, but a judge denied her request because you have to have proof of this.

You can say that guy's a pervert.

To just say, yeah, that guy's a pedophile.

You could say that about anybody.

But, you know,

in a letter, Ray's lawyer wrote that Ray vehemently denies the claims and that he has never been charged with any criminal offense stemming from anything like that.

Yeah.

Okay.

Roughly two months after the petition for a protection order was denied, she filed another time Becky does.

This is the Roy one.

Okay, this is there.

Now, some of Tim's relatives had accused Ray of sexual assault.

She wrote in the petition, and she doesn't want him near the kids.

She said she confronted Tim about the allegations.

This is what she put in her petition.

He told her to, quote, calm down.

Oh, it gets worse.

Oh, it gets worse.

Anytime there's a pedophilia concern, calm down isn't the correct answer.

This is the, wow.

Right now, I want the kids away from Tim for this.

He said, yeah, don't worry about it.

Our kids are boys, not the

girls have accused him of molesting them, not boys.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, he doesn't like little dicks.

He likes, you know.

My dad just likes

young girls.

Yes.

Young girls.

So don't worry about it.

Can you imagine that?

Oh, no, no.

He's a very specific pedophile.

He's not.

That's what he's saying.

No, no, he's straight.

Yeah, he's good.

Yeah.

He's a straight pedophile.

It's different.

That's not okay, Tim.

That doesn't make Bill Winner.

No.

Jesus Christ.

She wrote.

He's not good at diffusing situations.

That is a bad defense of your father.

He doesn't even fucking molest boys.

Give me a break.

Oh, okay, then.

Never mind.

It's good.

Just make sure that they're not going to be able to do that.

Make sure they're dressed real masculine when they go over there.

Yeah.

Make sure they're dressed real masculine when they go over there.

That's all.

Make sure he doesn't confuse them for a girl.

They got high voices still, so let's keep them away from him.

How about that?

Wow, that is fucked up.

She wrote, I was beside myself.

I could not believe that my children's own father was unwilling to take extra precautions to protect our children from potential abuse.

Tim threatened me that if I, quote, outed his father for what he had done, that his dad would probably have to move away and would probably kill himself, and it would be all my fault.

Maybe.

Okay.

Is he a pedophile?

If he killed himself because he molested girls and didn't want to get his fault is that I mean, that's not your fault.

What are we talking about here?

Jesus.

So Becky names in an amendment to her petition, she named several relatives and described the alleged abuse.

Two were minors at the time of the incident, according to the document.

A third was 22 years old.

That's just incest at that point.

That's right.

Incesting and rape.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Becky also identified a fourth relative who reported witnessing some of the alleged abuse.

He does it in front of people, Jesus, or allegedly.

So in a petition to dismiss, in a motion to dismiss the petition, a lawyer for the father-in-law described the allegations as hearsay and unsupported by affidavits or testimonials.

You can go gather a bunch of hearsay, but unless somebody puts it under oath, I'm just not really a cannon.

Yeah, it's not legally, it doesn't matter legally.

He also,

this lawyer then accused Becky of abusing the state's domestic violence laws with a public record aimed at destroying his reputation and labeling him as, quote, one of the most despicable types of individuals in our society today.

You know, a pedophile.

Right.

The worst thing.

Yeah.

So, and nobody then ever reported the abuse to authorities or anything like that.

Nobody did.

So Tim's lawyer said that Becky had heard stories about the allegations for years, and they hadn't become an issue until the divorce got hot and heavy, he said.

Well, yeah, because you're trying to take her kids from her.

And if there's four stories about this, man, that's not good.

And they're both using whatever ammo they have.

Yeah.

You're emptying your clip here.

It's a divorce proceeding, and you're fighting.

Yeah, oh, yeah.

And if there's four people accusing, then there's more people behind that.

Right.

So

a judge dismisses this new petition

here, but the allegations are just shifted into the divorce proceedings instead.

Yeah,

that's fucked up.

Now, February 2023, Ted Johnson, her boyfriend at this point, said that, you know, they were friends at first, became romantically involved over the summer of 2022, and he knew that Becky was going through a divorce because they spoke about it often.

He testifies later on that a divorce, the divorce was full of animosity on both sides.

And by February of 2023, with the trial date coming up for the divorce, Becky was jacked to get this over with.

Yeah.

She was excited to just not fight anymore and be done with it.

However the chips fall, they fall.

Write a check or get a check, but be done with it.

At least be done with this mess.

Now, February 10th, 2003, or 2023, not 2003.

February 10th, okay,

at around 9.30 a.m., Tim called the police department, and the receptionist answered the call on the speakerphone.

And people heard Tim say that he had a gun that he needed to return to his ex-wife from a judge's order, but that he did not want to give it to, quote, that crazy bitch.

I don't want to give it to that crazy bitch.

The phone call was then transferred to a lieutenant in the police department named Shannon Pilkington.

And Shannon Pilkington says that Tim said the reason for his phone call was

the court order to give his soon-to-be ex-wife, as he put it, a gun because

she had proof that she had a gun safe.

So if she could prove she had a gun safe, then he has to give her the gun back.

He described the divorce as brutal and contentious.

He didn't want to personally give the gun to her because he did not feel safe and he was afraid of what she might do if he met with her.

So, Pilkington, the lieutenant, told him that the police department would not be involved in the return of the weapon.

Basically, it's a great story.

Work it out on your own.

We don't give a fuck.

That's a civil matter.

Don't get hurt, but get rid of the gun.

It's a civil matter.

It's not our fucking problem.

If she shoots you, give us a call.

We'll come over.

But other than that, we really have no

recourse here, which makes sense.

Now, Valentine's Day, February 14th, 2023,

a neighbor said that she saw someone in the middle of the night outside Becky's house on a bicycle.

Okay.

Okay.

And she said that she texted Becky immediately.

She said, I told her we just saw somebody in the driveway, and Becky responded the next morning.

And she said that the next morning, she said, that's when she told me she hadn't seen anything, but she had thought that she'd been hearing voices in her backyard and her motion light went on.

So now she's very paranoid.

Is what Becky said, oh man, I was hearing voices and my motion light went on, so that makes sense.

So everybody, including Becky and these neighbors, all thought that this was somebody looking for shit to steal, somebody looking for a garage that's open.

And, you know, people are always prowling around.

If you will fucking lay away your three-year-old for meth,

like, I think that, you know,

people are, you don't put it past people to maybe go into your garage and steal whatever the fuck from you.

Or maybe somebody's planting some more IUDs in this fucking place.

Who knows?

Yeah, IEDs.

IEDs.

Not IUDs.

If they were planting IUDs, that'd be good for everybody.

It's less kids.

They're in the garage.

Yeah.

Why is there an IUD in here?

Look at it.

See, it looks like a little guy like this.

What is this?

What's up with that?

Why is that?

It's like a cross minus Jesus.

Look at it.

This little thing stops it all.

Wow.

That thing sorts out jizz.

I'm fascinated.

Weird, weird, weird.

So

February 22nd, 2023.

Yeah.

Okay.

Now, Tim is going to have the kids this night, even though Becky's supposed to have the kids.

The night before,

February 21st, 2023, at 7.46 p.m., Becky messaged Tim and said, are you able to keep the kids tomorrow?

I do not feel good today and feeling worse as the night goes on.

She had some kind of surgery three days earlier.

That's why Tim has the kids.

She had some kind of surgery.

I don't think it was anything major, but enough to where she doesn't feel good.

He responded, yes, I can keep them.

I assume you're referring to overnight as well, unless something drastic changes tomorrow during the day with how you feel.

Okay.

Becky responded, correct, overnight.

So would you pick them up from school and keep them Wednesday overnight?

And he said, okay.

So Becky is home alone, recovering from the surgery.

Tim's house is about a mile away.

Okay.

And Ray's house is near there, too.

Everybody lives in the same neighborhood here.

So

anyway, there we go.

February 23rd now.

By the way, the sons are 12, 10, and 5 at this point.

Oh, wow.

They're not at home.

They're staying with Tim still on the 23rd.

At 11.51 a.m.

on February 23rd, Tim called the school that the kids go to and said that he couldn't couldn't get in touch with Becky.

Okay.

And then he called the school to see if she had

called there about the end.

And he also said that

to the receptionist here, he knew that the boys were going to be walking home, and he told me he'd be picking them up instead of having them walk home.

That's what the receptionist said.

Now, she said she found the call unusual because neither Tim nor Becky had ever previously called about how the children were going to get home.

Either they walk or they show up and get them or whatever, but they never called ahead of time to give you us a heads up on it, essentially.

So, how do you tell the school how they're going to home?

Doesn't matter.

It's weird.

So, they also, this woman also said that she did not

call Tim that day and didn't believe anyone from the school had called him that day or anything like that.

And she said that he ended up, Tim ended up picking the children up from school at 1:50 p.m., which is an hour before dismissal.

What the heck?

On the 23rd.

He was driving a Rust Red Orange Honda CR-V.

Yeah.

And she said that Tim had also picked the children up the day before, but he didn't come an hour early.

He came normal dismissal time.

So he knows when they get up.

Yeah.

So after he gets the kids, Tim said he couldn't get in contact with Becky.

Remember, he called the school looking for her.

Right.

And

so he contacted her father.

He sent a text to Becky's dad here saying, Do you know where Becky is?

So this is what it said: quote, can you please call Becky and ask her to tell me when she's getting the boys today?

I had them last night because she said she was sick, but she hasn't responded to any of the messages I sent today.

And I don't know if she's still sick or if she's coming to get them or what's happening.

I can keep the children again tonight if needed, but I just need her to let me know what she wants to do.

Yeah.

So

apparently the dad told Tim that he hadn't been able to get a hold of her either.

And so he said, I'm going to go over to the house and see if she's okay because she just had a surgery and see what's going on.

So

he said, yeah, he tried to call Tim back, but he didn't answer.

So he just texted him that.

And the dad drives over to Becky's house and said that the front door was open

when he got there.

The inside door, the heavy wooden door that was there, was open.

Not unlocked, open.

Open.

In February in Illinois.

Not latched.

Not closed.

Yeah, not just open.

So he said he checked in the garage and saw that her car was there.

Okay.

So then he walked around and the downstairs, looked around, didn't find anybody.

So then he went upstairs into their bedroom and didn't see anything, but then turned to the bathroom and found her on the bathroom floor.

Oh, boy.

This has nothing to do with her surgery.

She is covered in blood and full of holes.

It's not good.

Not really.

Not good at all.

She's not shot.

Yeah, I don't think her surgery was to be pierced all over her body multiple times down to her organs.

So unless it was that.

Told to go take care of that.

Yeah.

So this guy, the dad didn't have his phone with him, so he went next door to call 911.

Oh, God.

Jesus Christ.

So the next door neighbor said that he got there about 3.30 p.m.

He came over to her house and asked her to use her phone because Becky was dead.

He called 911.

He called his wife.

He called his wife because he wanted to remain at Becky's house and he didn't want his wife to drive.

So the neighbor went up and went and picked up Becky or picked up the mom, Bernadette.

So on the drive back, Bernadette called Tim and the neighbor could hear the conversation.

During the conversation, Bernadette told Tim that Becky was dead.

At some point, Tim had said that, quote, the school had called him to, because Becky didn't pick the boys, pick up the boys, so they called him, which isn't true.

Right.

He called them.

Yeah, that's the point.

Yeah, they said they didn't call shit.

They didn't know who was getting anybody from when.

Now, 3.33 p.m.

is when the first Quincy police officer arrives on this scene here.

He is called to assist with the, or the first detective, he's called to assist with the investigation.

He said that he was told it could be a suicide by the responding officers who don't understand how people kill themselves, apparently.

It's not by...

Yeah.

Yeah.

But then when he saw shell casings everywhere, the bathroom door had clearly been kicked in, and she's full of holes, including in her hands.

You go, well, people normally don't have defensive wounds from a suicide.

So this doesn't look like a suicide.

He said that behind the broken door was a cell phone sitting on the floor.

Pieces of wood from the door were also found all over the place, which led them to believe that whoever did this violently kicked in the door.

She ran in there to try to get away.

it didn't work um so he the the officer said he noticed around her body several very small pieces of plastic around her body

little pieces of like limp plastic not hard plastic okay

and he said there appeared to be a towel in her underwear in the genital area but that is from that she's wearing compression She's got surgery stuff on.

That's why.

Right, right, right, right.

So she's wearing like those mesh things.

Yeah.

Yeah, at first they thought it was some kind of weird posing thing or something where they put something weird on her, but it's not.

She has like this, it's all set up.

Surgery stuff.

Yeah.

Surgery stuff.

So we won't get into that too much.

Dressed wounds.

Exactly.

Yeah.

So

here they made a diagram and showed all of this later on.

Now they found a broken window in the second story of the home.

Yeah.

In the bedroom on the east side of the second story of the house, one of the windows was open and the window glass was broken and there was damage to the upper right portion of the window frame.

Inside, just under the window, there was a partial impression of a shoe or a boot.

Okay.

So they're like, okay, this is interesting.

They also found a chair outside pulled from the patio and placed next to the house to be able to get up.

That's how you stand.

Yeah, it's called a staff ladder.

That's how you work it.

So police determined quickly that whoever did this broken into the house by prying open an upstairs window in one of the children's bedrooms.

They said, quote, the person had climbed up on there.

There was a patio chair that was pulled over.

They walked past Becky's windows in her bedroom, and then they went to a room of one of the boys and pried it open, broke the window open, and went in.

You could almost trace their path to Becky's room.

They had kicked in or broken the door violently.

Becky then ran into the bathroom, turned around, and got shot.

So, because she has gunshot wounds all over her.

They also found there's tool markings on the window showing that it had been primed.

So

they swabbed the chair outside for DNA evidence because it's 2023.

This is some of the most advanced shit that they've got.

So, yeah,

touch DNA exists now, so it's a big deal.

So they said they're swabbing the chair for DNA evidence, possibly touch DNA.

They said they did not try to obtain fingerprints from the chair because doing so might compromise the DNA evidence.

So they'd rather have the DNA than a fingerprint.

I don't want the dust.

I want the

juice.

I want the juices from deep inside you.

I want his hand juices.

So they take a picture of the broken window from inside the home and a photo of the footprint left on the carpet.

So they described it saying that pieces from a metal are pieces of metal from a door and pieces of plastic on the floor around her.

So there's there's both.

Remember the little tiny pieces of plastic?

We'll find out more about that.

And they said the photo that they took also shows metal broken off the door frame, splintered wood from the door, and several shell casings in the room and one more casing in the hallway.

Okay.

So somebody took a pot shot as they were walking.

Walked in.

Yeah.

Shot her once probably and then went closer.

They're thinking.

So Jesus Christ.

They also,

the photo also shows that she, multiple pieces of plastic and a bullet hole around her on the floor as well.

So interesting here.

Now, the wounds from the autopsy report, this is brutal, dude.

She was shot 14 times.

Holy shit.

14 times with a knife.

That's all of them.

My God.

That's a lot of shots, man.

That is just...

That's a lot.

I don't know how many people need to be shot 14 times before they're dead, but if you can't kill someone close range with 10 shots, you should probably not have a gun.

We'll put it that way.

Matter of fact, there's 15, and you said there's a bullet hole on the ground.

Mr.

You missed, you piece of shit.

This is

terrible.

Oh, God.

That is fucking pathetic, isn't it?

You missed from that distance.

You scumback.

So

they said that there was, this is a police chief of Quincy said that was significant because why would you shoot someone 14 times when you could have shot them twice and killed them?

It seemed like someone was coming for Becky.

You made it very personal.

The only reason they shot on 14 is because they missed with one.

Otherwise, they would have missed with one.

I was fucking 15.

Yep, shot a total of 14 times.

They said none of the wounds were immediately fatal.

She bled out.

Jesus.

Yep.

It's fucking horrible.

She'd been shot nine times in the torso, three times in her right arm, and two times in her left hand.

One of them counts as

went through her hand and into her arm.

So they said the hand wounds are obviously defensive wound.

They said it took her minutes to die.

Jesus Christ.

They said it was an emotional response for both of us to realize that she had not,

just to realize not just that she had been executed, but that her last minutes were lying on a floor alone in the dark in extreme pain, waiting to die.

Oh, God damn.

Fucking horrible.

She was wearing black compression surgical pants and a surgical compression pad on her torso.

So they said that, yeah, nine gunshot wounds to the torso alone.

That's so many.

That's so many.

Jesus Christ.

They said the mechanism of death was internal bleeding, as she had almost no blood left in her when they found her.

Yeah, how would you?

That's so much.

They said because of the compression pad, it wasn't surprising that there wasn't as much blood on the floor next to her as you would expect because it's soaking up blood.

Yeah.

The compression pad.

They said that this would have been an extremely painful death.

They said

they noted that a projectile entered the back of her hand, exiting through her palm.

That hurts.

Aiming just at mid, just center mass.

That's so fucked up.

They also performed a sexual assault kit, and she was not sexually assaulted in any way, which that's good.

It's just

later on, the prosecutor will say whoever killed Becky stood over her and emptied the clip.

Yeah.

Fired until there was no more bullets available.

It was really, really, a really horrible crime scene.

A lawyer said that.

It was really, really, a really horrible crime scene.

They find her phone behind the door.

This is essential because it determines exactly when this happened.

Yeah.

They know exactly when this happened because at 1.11 a.m.

She tried to dial 911.

Oh.

And her phone recorded it.

She dialed 91126 before her phone was knocked out of her hand.

So she got 911 and she just didn't get anything.

And there was

motion.

Something happened and her thumb slipped.

She hit the two and the six as it was.

Hit the 911 too.

She probably was pulling it away.

It got knocked out of her hand.

Or as it was hit out of her hand, the two and the six got touched.

Yeah.

But this close to getting it off.

I mean,

literally two inches from the cops being called.

At least that would have sent someone to the house.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

So

that's crazy.

91126.

They also

found her phone behind the bedroom door, the partial shoe print near the entry.

By the way, nothing stolen in the house at all.

Nothing.

Just a murder.

Just a horribly brutal and personal murder.

And the neighbors didn't see or hear anything.

15 rounds?

Emptied a clip, and they didn't hear a fucking thing at one in the morning.

15 rounds, not a single thing.

Wow.

How far at part of these houses?

That is remarkable.

Gets what I mean.

This is crazy.

Like, is there another house between his house and her house a mile away?

Like,

that's a lot.

So nobody, and nobody's up at one in the morning?

These are all early debetters?

Like, what the fuck?

No inside the extra house.

At my neighbor fire.

At my neighbor's house.

I guarantee I wake up.

I probably hear it, I would imagine.

So now let's talk about these plastic pieces here around her because that's really weird and they don't know what to make of all this plastic.

These are small little shreds of plastic found around the body.

And they said, we thought that was very unusual when we saw that.

The main, the attorney said, I was like, okay, what's this?

The pieces are examined further, and they are found under microscopic analysis and everything, found to be remnants of an Aldi grocery bag.

The store Aldi.

Yeah.

It's one of the plastic grocery bags.

They do.

They have them.

This is one of them.

Yeah.

This is one of them.

Maybe this is why they don't have them now.

Do they not?

I don't know.

I walked an Aldi once and it looked like a fucking

fucking Ellis Island or something.

Like there was just people like swarming everywhere.

I didn't know what was happening.

There was like vegetables on the floor.

I said, I'm getting the fuck out of here.

It looks like a Ross of grocery stores.

I'm told it's fantastic.

Exactly.

Yeah.

It looks like there's just mismatched shit everywhere.

We picked up a cart, walked down one aisle, turned around, dropped the cart off, and left because there was just shit everywhere.

And it was, it was just chaos.

It was chaos, man.

Yeah.

So, um,

here is another thing they're going to look for.

They said they checked seven casings, shell casings that were there.

They tested them for DNA, and one was tested for fingerprints as well.

Because you can only do one or the other because it's a small area.

They said there isn't enough surface on the casing to test for both.

So they said they could also not test for both DNA and fingerprints on the small pieces of plastic bag around the body because the surface is too small.

Much too small.

Yeah.

So that's what they're working on now.

Now they go around the whole neighborhood because it's 2023.

Does no one ever ring doorbell cam here?

Does no one have simply safe in this whole fucking neighborhood?

You guys don't have ears, apparently, so it doesn't

wild, yeah.

So, um, anyway, during this, the police began investigating.

They speak to Becky's next-door neighbors, they had security cameras set up in their driveway alongside Becky's house.

Good, they're like, okay, the camera didn't capture anything

unusual on the night of the murder, but it did capture something a little bit earlier

here.

They said that

they said at 1.05 a.m.

Here, a person was seen walking down the driveway toward the back of Becky's house.

And then what appeared to be the same person was seen 48 minutes later walking the opposite direction.

So whoever went past the camera went

in or around Becky's house for 48 minutes and then left.

So then they found out that there was another camera that captured, captured, or that, I'm sorry, this camera that captured this, captured a similar incident on Valentine's Day.

Okay.

Someone coming up to Becky's house.

Yeah.

Now there's another,

now they go to the whole neighborhood looking for cameras here.

They found another video here.

This is from a bus barn.

The fuck is that?

I don't know.

Okay, that footage showed a person riding a bike in the direction of Becky's house right before the murder and in the opposite direction right after the murder.

Okay.

So they began to suspect, obviously, whoever was on that bike, whoever's been seen in the driveway videos and in that neighborhood is probably the same person.

Sure.

Because there wasn't two people out in the middle of the winter in Illinois riding a fucking bicycle around at one in the morning.

That just is weird.

This is a bizarre thing.

Hmm.

Didn't even think about that, huh?

How weird it would be.

Is that weird?

Is that fucking riding a bike?

Well, in Phoenix, you see that all the time because people are making meth in their backpack, and that's how you do it so yeah right that's a normal thing to see in phoenix but not in like a rural area yeah that's how they do it so you they run so you get the shit to activate that's how they do it yeah that's a good thing yeah you make your little backpack meth you can do it's fucking gross so um so they're thinking yeah that has to be the same person uh the only problem with the videos was that the person seen in them is completely unidentifiable it is just a shark figure yeah

they could only see that the bike did not appear to have reflectors on the wheels oh that's what the only thing distinctive about anything, person bike, is that there's no reflectors on the wheels.

But that's a great clue because that means somebody took those the fuck off.

Also, most bikes have them on there.

So if you find one without, that's something.

So they said

later on, the prosecution team, somebody said, this isn't the part of town where people ride bikes in the middle of the night in the winter.

And so when you have this surveillance video and it exactly matches the timeline, it's pretty suspicious.

So

the February 14th one filmed a person walking down the driveway at 12.37 a.m.

That was the one from

Valentine's Day.

I almost said from Halloween.

So Becky's sister Sarah here, she gets the call that she's been killed,

that Becky's been killed.

Sarah lives in New York, was away on vacation with her husband.

So she said it was a living nightmare.

How fast can we get to the airport, fly back to New York, unpack our swimsuits, pack funeral clothes, and get to Quincy?

All in the matter of like this horrible grief.

And, you know, obviously your sister's just been murdered.

So that is fucking crazy.

Happy shit and put

sad shit in.

Yeah.

Damn it.

God damn it.

So they said that

to them, there was only one person that came to mind as a suspect, and that was Tim.

Yeah, there's a big long text about it.

That's it.

Yeah, that's it.

So they said that that's all there is to it.

So they do more DNA testing here.

They say that they collected DNA from the handlebars of a bicycle that we'll find here in a second.

They find a bicycle.

Oh.

Okay.

And we'll talk about this.

It's a blue bicycle.

And they said that the DNA on the handlebars of this bicycle did not belong to Tim, Becky, their children, or

Ted Johnson, the boyfriend.

Okay.

No DNA on there.

They tried to get DNA from a chair outside Becky's house, but she wasn't able to collect the sample that was suitable for comparison because there was so little DNA present.

They also tested the swabs the police collected from Becky's door handle and concluded that it was unlikely that the DNA was deposited by either Johnson or Tim, but may have come from Becky or one of the children.

Okay.

So not one of the two guys that might kill her.

Because the cops look at it this way.

Yes, they're in the middle of a contentious divorce, but they've known each other for 15 years and they were both still alive.

This Ted Johnson guy just popped up and now she's dead.

Great showing.

Yeah, great point.

So just logically, you're going to look at him too, clearly.

You know what I mean?

You never know what kind of guy he is.

So

they said that they did that.

They also collected DNA from a piece of plastic that was found around Becky's body and said it was likely that Becky's DNA was in the sample and not likely that it was Johnson's DNA in the sample.

They also said that there was more support for Tim being a contributor to that sample as opposed to not being a contributor.

However, it was limited in nature.

So basically, it's like 50-50 might be him.

That's not enough.

It could be anybody at that point.

So that means that there's a lot of people that fall under that category.

So, yeah.

They said also that

they tested a spent nine millimeter cartridge found in the hallway and concluded that the DNA on the casing belonged to Becky.

Oh, not, that's in the hallway, not either Tim or Johnson, neither of them, not the boyfriend, not the husband, her DNA is on it.

Hmm.

That's interesting.

Now, they further tested the eight cartridge casings found at her house and the projectiles in her body.

They found that they were all fired from the same gun.

They opined that it was either a CZ75 9mm handgun or a Ruger 9mm handgun that could have fired the rounds.

By the way, Becky's missing gun is a CZ75.

Okay.

A 9mm.

Yeah.

The one that's missing.

And her DNA is on the shell casing, meaning it could be her gun and she just loaded it and never fired any rounds out of it.

And now every round that just came after her were ones she put.

That's even worse.

She loaded her, that she loaded the gun for her own death.

That's possible.

Oh, god that's possible or they said also fluids anything's flying through the air something there's a lot of possibilities here

so what about ted johnson let's talk about him what about him yeah so february 20 or february 13th 2023 he spent the night with becky at her house romantic valentine's day evening or the eve uh the next time he saw her he said was on the evening of february 21st when he brought her over some food visited for an hour and left he's like i don't like i don't like when broads are recovering from things.

You know, it makes me uncomfortable.

Here's your food.

I'm getting out of here.

I want to see you vulnerable.

Maybe never find you hot again.

It's dangerous for me.

That's all it is.

Here, I got you some Taco Bell.

Good job.

So on the evening of February 22nd, he spoke with Becky on the phone, and she said that she was excited to pick her children up the next day because she was finally allowed to drive for the first time since having abdominal surgery the week before.

Poor thing.

She was happy to get out of the house and do shit.

That was the 23rd, the day that he picked the kids up and called the school that Tim did.

So that morning, the following morning, the 23rd, he texted her multiple times, Ted Johnson did, and

multiple times she never responded.

He talked to Becky's sister Sarah later in the day, and she told him that Becky had been found dead in her home.

That's his story.

So later, Johnson meets with the detectives at the Quincy Police Department.

During their meeting, he answered questions.

He allowed a photo of his shoes to be taken, shared his phone.

They downloaded all the data off his phone, submitted to GSR testing of his hands, which, I mean, it's the next day.

So,

I mean, unless he's a filthy monster who doesn't ever have water hit his hands, probably going to be gone by now.

And volunteered a swab for DNA testing as well.

Good.

So, I mean, he's saying I'm an open book.

They asked him if he owned any firearms, firearms, and he said, yes, he owned a.40 caliber Smith ⁇ Wesson.

And he said he does not own any 9-millimeter handguns.

And they said, okay, what do you drive?

And he said he drives a truck with Missouri license plate reading 8DC J55 because he had previously lived in Missouri.

He said that Pecky's children usually stayed with her on Wednesday nights, but on Wednesday, February 22nd, Becky had arranged for the children to stay with Tim because she was recovering from surgery.

He said he did not go to her house that night at all.

He said he had a visit.

He went, visited a friend that evening from 6:30 to 7:30 and then went home and was alone in his house the whole rest of the night.

Never left again.

It's a bad alibi.

Not a great alibi.

Visiting with a friend and then past 7:30, you have no alibi.

But I mean, normal people don't need to establish alibis if you're not.

I mean, you're using a lot of people.

Most of your life.

Yeah.

Most of my life is the worst alibi.

You don't know.

You have no alibi.

None.

Unless you were doing this this or dropping your kids off at a sporting thing, you have no fucking alibi whatsoever.

My alibi sucks all the time.

I was in the hot tub smoking a joint isn't a good alibi.

There's no point.

Who was with you?

Me?

Nobody.

I was doing a very boring thing, Your Honor.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Oh, man.

I swear I didn't kill them.

But I'm really innocent, honestly.

It's just, I'm just very,

I just do boring shit.

I just smoke weed alone a lot.

You know.

So

the bike they found, they find a blue Schwinn Sidewinder bicycle that fits, it's a mountain bike, fits the general bicycle from the picture.

Okay.

Less than a half a block from Tim's house.

They find it just outside, like wedged in between things.

Yes.

The bicycle had no reflectors on the wheels.

The bicycle appeared to not have been there very long either.

It's not like somebody dumped it there three years ago.

The tires had full air in them.

There's no rust damage and there's no weeds growing over it.

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It hasn't been there long.

They found this bike on February 27th, so four days after the murder.

They found this bike, no reflectors on the wheels, and they were like, interesting, less than a half mile from

Ted's house, from Tim's house.

I said, Ted now.

Then a few days later, they did a, a police officer climbed the side of Becky's home up to the roof like would have been done because he basically went over the roof and around he described the climb as difficult and believed a person would need to be somewhat athletic to make a climb which

Tim is Tim and and Ted are both described as athletic and in good shape and young and you know neither of them are

neither of them are 60 years old or anything they're both you know reasonably athletic basically someone

You know, if someone weighed 400 pounds or they had a medical problem or they were 65 years old, they couldn't do it.

But a reasonably athletic, younger person could do it.

So now they need a search warrant for Tim's place because they found this bike.

So they do that.

They investigate here and they executed the way they got him, by the way, March 1st, 2023, they execute a traffic stop on him pursuant to the search warrant.

During the stop, he is wearing a fitness tracker device, a whoop.

This is all capital letters, W-H-O-O-P.

He got himself a knockoff Fitbit.

A knockoff Fitbit.

Dollar General Fitbit, I feel like that is.

Fitbits are like 30 bucks now.

Yeah, I don't know what the fuck this is, but

a whoop.

He's wearing a whoop on his left wrist.

So they seize the whoop and his phone as part of the deal here, as part of the warrant.

The phone records obtained from his service provider and data from the phone showed that on February 23rd, 2023, that's the

day that her body is found,

at 11:51 a.m., he made a phone call to the school, which we know lasted for under a minute.

He also reviewed a report.

This is the guy looking over, the detective, not Tim.

The detective reviewed a report from Becky's ADT system, the security system, which showed that on February 23rd, 2023, there was an alert that the front door had been opened at 1.12 a.m.

Okay.

Okay.

Now,

at Tim's house, they find another bike, a black, red, and white mongoose bicycle.

Its rear tire is flat, and it has reflectors on both wheels.

That's not our bike.

That's not our bike.

And the bike they found is not at his house.

It's just out somewhere.

It's just out there, yeah.

Which, if a person, Tim or not Tim or anybody, rode a bike into the neighborhood and murdered this person, whatever, might want to ditch the bike on the way out.

Sure.

They might think, you know, oh, I'm probably on cameras.

I should ditch this bike.

So that really doesn't help them at all.

And if you know anything about her at all, and you're targeting to murder her, if you're looking for anybody to frame for this, maybe perhaps if you know that she needs to die and you're mad at her, then you know that she's a contentious device.

Divorce.

And everyone she knows knows that.

Bury everything near him.

I'd put a gun under his divorce sheet.

Put it in his mailbox.

Right in his mailbox.

I'd sneak up in his room and put it in his fucking belt loops.

So that doesn't help them at all.

No.

Connect anything.

What does help a lot is they found stacks of plastic Aldish grocery bags at his house.

You know, like the stack you take off the rack.

Oh, the whole thing?

Like a stack of them like that?

Yeah, like you break off 20 of them and grab them

unused.

They found that in his home.

Okay.

He's got bags.

Where do you hear his excuse for that?

It's hilarious.

Yeah.

So in his basement here, on a shelving unit, they found multiple boxes of ammunition.

One of the boxes contained both fired bullets or both unfired bullets and spent 9mm cartridge cases.

Okay.

During that, they said that the spent cartridge cases found at Becky's house were also 9mm too.

But in his basement, in Tim's basement, they also found a crowbar on top of a shelf

where no other tools were located, just a crowbar sitting up there as well.

It's a crowbar shelf.

Keep it up there.

They also said they found a large gun safe on the main floor of the the house that contained multiple firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition.

They did a gun purchase check on both Becky and Tim and learned that she had purchased the CZ75 9mm handgun.

However, they did not find that gun at the house.

Right.

He noted that Tim had in the past purchased two 9mm handguns, a Ruger LC-9, which again could possibly be, they said that could be the murder weapon, and a Ruger SR-9.

He did not find the LC-9 in the gun safe, by the way, but did find the SR-9.

Okay.

Then they look up, they get into his electronics,

which was the point, main point of pulling him over here.

They see that shows that on February 14th, 2023, starting at 1.10 a.m.,

which is just after the time that somebody walked, 12.57 a.m., someone walked up their driveway that night.

A series of searches were performed for queries such as license plate lookup, Illinois license plate lookup, title and registration, license plate lookup, free vehicle history, vehicle identification number, check.info.

Okay.

Why is he looking up?

Eventually, at 1.25 a.m., the searches went down.

Now

are being conducted for Missouri license plate number 8DCJ55.

Sound familiar?

Why else would I tell you earlier that that's his license plate numbering numbering as it mattered later?

God damn it.

Which is Ted Johnson's, just in case anybody was zoning out or doing something there.

Sure, sure.

They also, on his laptop, found a search for a VIN decoder, for VIN decoder sites,

vehicle identification numbers to find out who owned a 2021 Toyota Tundra with the same VIN as Johnson's truck.

He walked up to that man's vehicle and took a picture of his VIN.

What a scumbag.

That's dirty, man.

Up to the goddamn windshield all the way in the corner there.

Yeah.

You got to want that.

You got to lean on that car almost.

Jesus.

And then you got to put some light on it, too.

You need a flash for it.

It's dark outside.

At midnight, he's doing that.

God.

One in the morning.

Yep.

So it turns out that's Becky's boyfriend there.

So one of the police people said, and for someone with power and control issues, you realize that your prior significant other is now in a relationship with somebody, that they're spending the night on Valentine's Day, and then the minute you get back to your home at 1:10 a.m.

in the morning, you're searching their license plate number and VIN number.

That's someone who's lost control.

All alone.

If that's not bad enough, let's find some more searches that he found here.

They said, We learned that he had searched several phrases and terms that just shocked us, the prosecutor said.

Oh, what are they?

He was searching,

Jesus, quote, how to pry open a door with a crowbar.

What the fuck?

How to murder your ex-wife, who you have three kids with, are trying to get a divorce, and once made a comment about on Family Feud.

He might as well have texted that.

Just text or search for that.

Just go ahead.

YouTube, show me how to open doors with a.

You fucking wife.

If that's not dumb enough, how to wash gunpowder residue off my hands.

Sir.

And if that's not bad enough, he then searched Quincy Police Department Response Time.

Are you kidding me?

How long do I have?

Response time.

He's

setting his fucking whoop to it.

Well, no, we'll find out about the whoop.

He's not setting his whoop to it.

No, he's aware of his whoop.

He's got whoop awareness here.

So they said that those actions just didn't seem like the actions of an innocent person.

They seemed a little off, I would say.

I've never searched for any of that shit, unless it had to do with a case of the show.

You could then look up and see all the other shit I looked up with that, you know, would see it's not murder for me.

I guess I've never loved anyone or like been jealous or I've never in my life felt to look up a fucking plate or a VIN number.

I don't care.

Once we're not fucking, I don't care who you're fucking with because it ain't me.

I'm too busy looking for someone else to be fucking.

So I don't care what.

I'm going to destroy a gym sock before I worry about who somebody else is fucking.

I don't care.

Once I'm done, I'm done.

I'm out.

I don't care anymore.

You do whatever you want.

Imagine that.

I don't give a shit.

Wow.

Because both of us, I know that we're both like that because we were both when our ex-wives back in the day started dating and we were both like awesome.

Thank goodness.

Yeah.

We both fuck on.

Neither of us were upset at all.

We were both like, awesome.

Couldn't care less.

Yeah, great, good.

Move on.

So the search histories in his laptop

queries were average QPD response time.

Does my whoop record the exact times I wear it?

See, I was thinking about it.

You do.

Is this cheap piece of shit monitoring me?

Does this thing work at all?

Google said, Google said, do you mean fitness?

What the fuck is a whoop?

Do you mean I'm a fucking whoop?

What is that?

We're Google and we don't know what a whoop is.

Holy shit, these things are so expensive, James.

Oh, you had a high-quality whoop?

It's $240.

Oh, Oh, my God.

Jesus Christ.

Just buy an Apple Watch, you cheap fuck.

Jesus Christ.

I think I paid $140 for my Apple Watch.

It's cheaper than this piece of shit.

Jesus, man.

So, does my whoop record exact times I wear it?

How to check if a gun is registered to me?

Does my whoop catch up when I'm not wearing it?

Do I know how to use this thing at all?

Can you just wash off gunpowder residue?

You can, by the way, and just scrub well.

I know that.

Then, here's maybe the worst one: quote, how to make a homemade pistol silencer.

Oh, my God.

That's why they didn't hear anything.

Yeah.

Check it out.

He made it

Aldi bags?

He made a silencer out of Aldi bags.

That's what they're accusing him of here.

God damn it.

It's a whoop of fucking

grocery bags.

Not even a Kroger.

Jesus Christ.

Okay, other searches and websites visited included information about how to identify if a shotgun shell was fired from a specific gun.

Yeah.

Why criminals do not use shotguns despite cartridges being untraceable?

Like, how come everyone's not using a shotgun if they're untraceable?

He literally looked that up.

Because it's the loudest fucking thing you could do is fire off a shotgun.

That's why.

I don't think Aldi bags are silencing that.

You're hearing that shit from fucking three miles away.

That's why they don't use those very well.

Look at the hole at the end of that fucking barrel, man.

Kaboom.

Omar used one because he didn't give a shit.

He didn't think that

he didn't think McNulty and Bunk were going to be rolling up anytime soon.

That's why.

Because Baltimore's response time is a little slower than Quincy's.

Especially at the low rises.

You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, all that.

Also, how to open a window from the outside, using a crowbar to force open a window, lock picking techniques, and more information about whoop data and tracking.

Whoops couldn't be more appropriate.

But you can't tie him to that bike.

That's the thing.

You can't tie him to that.

Oh, shit, maybe you can.

Let's look at his Facebook.

No way.

Yep, he had on his phone a fake Facebook account under the name of John Smith.

He's a very creative man, this guy.

He's got a big imagination.

So that that John Smith account appeared to have been looking at the bike for sale, a blue Schwinn without reflectors on the wheels.

Bought it at marketplace.

Just like the bike that was found a

half block from his house.

Wow.

Now, the guy who owned the bike testified that in October 2022 through Facebook, this is months earlier.

He sold a blue Schwinn bicycle that didn't have reflectors on either wheel.

The buyer was a tall, white man, a little shorter than this this guy.

This guy's six foot six, so everybody's shorter than him, and had an athletic build.

He couldn't remember anything else about it because it was a $75 bike transaction.

So he wasn't really.

He doesn't care.

It's not the guy who adopted his son or something.

Who gives a shit?

I asked 75.

I got 35.

I don't care what this guy did with it.

Who cares?

I don't care if he beat a child to death with it.

Doesn't beat the fuck out of it.

Not my problem at that point.

So the name associated with the profile that Tim was using was John Smith, and the account didn't have a photo, obviously.

They found messages using Facebook Messenger from user John Smith to other people.

So one message to Bob Singleton read, Bob, any interest in pushing back to roughly 11 a.m.

in Hannibal tomorrow?

I'll be in an orange Honda CR-V when you arrive.

So we know it's him.

Yep.

It's not somebody else using his phone.

So, and they, and that guy testified, too, that he was driving an on-Honda CR-V.

This guy that he was sending,

they also said John Smith sent another message to Singleton saying, hey, Bob, I got down here a little early.

I'll be having coffee inside.

I'm in a green zip-up hoodie, hooded jacket.

I have long brown hair.

Just to make sure that you know it's him.

It's his car.

It's described myself.

Yeah.

He also found a message from John Smith account to

on his phone to Amy Trevor-Webster about a 26-inch mongoose mountain bike she was selling on Facebook.

He asked if the bike was still available for purchase on October 12th, 2022.

She responded that it was available and asked what time he'd like to pick it up.

John replied between 1 and 2 p.m.

And they replied, yeah, that's fine.

I'm not sure when I'll be home, but if I'm not, I will set it out front and you can just pay money in the mailbox.

This is the Midwest.

I don't give a shit about this bike.

I don't care if you steal it, that says.

Yeah, I'm leaving it on the patio.

Hopefully you pay for it.

If not, whatever.

So later on that afternoon, John Smith wrote, money is in the mailbox.

Thank you.

That, by the way, is the mountain bike that was found in his garage, the Mongoose.

So he has tied himself to John Smith's Facebook account and is inextricably

in there.

Now, they also tested the bike.

They got on the Schwinn.

Well, not that Schwinn because it's evidence, but they got an exact model of that Schwinn and made

the ride, one of the cops did, from Tim's house

north of the school bus garage to Becky's house, and it took under five minutes.

Yeah.

So, real easy for him to do that.

Ten minutes on bike.

Oh, it gets worse for Tim.

No.

Worse than how do I kill my ex-wife who has three kids named Becky and who wants to call my father a child.

Worse than Googling that.

Did he write his name in jizz?

They found inside the gun safe in his room dozens of shell casings, like we said.

Spent shell casings were found in his home.

Yeah.

An expert compared them to shell casings found at the crime scene and determined that 27 shell casings in Tim's house had been fired from the same gun used in the murder.

Why would he do that?

Fucking idiot.

Then they test out the bags as well.

They fired the gun inside a bag or a couple bags, which created multiple pieces of finely shredded plastic similar to what they found on and around Becky's body.

Why would he do that?

Is it to catch the casings?

Because sometimes people will put a bag to try to catch the casings because they only found nine casings at the scene.

So he took some of them with him.

Maybe that was in the bag.

The bag got in front of it, started getting blown away with it, or they tried to make a silencer.

He did.

Or he was trying to do both.

Silence and catch and then forgot that this is going to put holes in it.

Yes.

He doesn't seem like the smartest person.

He's pretty fucking dumb.

Which is crazy because he's pretty smart.

That's fucked up.

He's not smart dumb.

He's not murder smart.

No.

You know what he did?

He hasn't listened to this show.

No, right.

He's dumb smart.

And this is the thing.

He had seven years of an opportunity before this murder to listen to our show.

Yeah, we've been doing a lot of a while, Tim.

We don't want anybody to help anybody get away with murder.

This isn't a how-to.

Get your goddamn shit together.

I just want, if you're going to do something, do it properly, assholes.

Just murder, fucking planting a garden, anything.

Just do it properly.

Also, if you don't murder,

then don't murder because you're not good at this, man.

Murder.

Oh, by the way, what does he have to say about all this?

Quote, I can't even fathom the idea of considering

murdering somebody.

Like, I can't.

I'm not a violent person.

I'm not an angry person.

I've never been that way.

Yeah, well, we know that.

Yeah.

Just based on the evidence, man.

You Googled it.

oh god his attorney said that she is determined to prove his innocence wow she said just because tim and becky are going through a messy divorce it doesn't mean he killed her that's crazy uh

she said it wasn't pretty but the things that they were fighting over were not monumental things

And

she was asked, this lawyer was asked about, there's a number of friends who said that Becky had expressed fear of Tim.

And the lawyer said,

Yeah, that's a lot of girl talk.

I've never seen any pictures of her with bruises or marks, any allegations of him beating on her, nothing.

Girl talk.

She wasn't scared of a beating.

She was scared of a murder.

That's the thing.

That's what she was scared of.

Not a beating.

That was just girl talk.

Terrible thing to say.

Girls just, well, it's kind of like saying if a guy's talking shit about his wife, another guy would go, it was just guy talk.

We were complaining about our wives.

That's what guys do.

I think they're saying the same thing.

Girls complain about their husbands.

Overreactive woman.

That's all.

Yeah, yeah.

So that's what they're saying.

Yeah.

So the prosecutors say that even though there may not have been physical abuse, there was emotional abuse involved in text messages and all that.

The prosecutor said, I would say what the texts reveal is somebody who wants power and control.

He wants to control the relationship.

He wants to control how people perceive him.

Tim said, absolutely not.

Tim said, no, she wasn't the one that was emotionally abused.

I tried to create space.

I tried tried to stay out of her life.

And he said, I have an alibi for the murder.

So, oh, here we go.

Yeah.

Nanny, nanny boo-boo.

You know what I mean?

He says, they go, well, what was it?

He goes, I was at home with my sleeping kids.

Okay, that's great alibi, asshole.

Yeah.

So

his lawyer said she told him that she wasn't feeling well, and he said, that's fine.

That's how you want to see two people in a divorcing situation act with kids.

Now, also, they said the prosecutor said that we were able to download information off Tim's phone, and we found that he had what I'll call a burner or fake Facebook account for the name John Smith, and that John Smith was looking for a

bike for sale, a blue Schwinn with no reflectors, just like the one that was found.

His lawyer, again,

says that's nothing.

She says, quote, I mean, I have a fake Facebook account.

I'm not proud of it, but people do it.

Do they search for things that were involved in murders?

That's the question.

I don't have a fake Facebook account.

I do have a fake Facebook account.

I have no fake accounts.

I don't even want to deal with my real accounts.

Never mind fucking fake.

I barely touch those.

I haven't posted on Instagram in like six months.

I just don't care.

She's just busy with this.

Yeah, how fucking shitty her relationship is.

It's so weird.

My husband could be cheating.

I'm trying to catch him all the time.

Yeah, see, I have a fake burner account.

I stalk people with it.

What's the big deal?

People do it.

So they asked her, isn't it a bit of a problem, though, that on his phone he gets an alert for that blue bike?

Yeah.

And the lawyer says, sure.

Are there similarities?

Sure.

But that's not the only abandoned bike that's ever been found around town.

Yeah.

No, but it is the one that matches the one from the videos, and it is a half mile from the dead lady's house and even closer to the suspect's house.

So it's kind of, wow.

Also, Tim says he knew about Becky's new relationship months earlier.

That wasn't at Valentine's Day when he saw the license plate.

That wasn't what it was.

He said, I actually didn't care.

That's it.

Then why are you searching?

Why are you

looking for public records?

That's another thing that a man that doesn't care does, bro.

Nope.

Come on, I'm going to show you what guys that don't care do.

Exactly.

I've never gone anywhere at one in the morning to search for anything.

I don't care.

Not searching for shit.

That's some shit my mother used to drag me to do when I was a little fucking kid.

Yeah.

And she'd be going out with this one or that one.

We'd have to go at fucking midnight to some guy's house so she can drive by to see whose car is in the garage and all that shit.

You know how many times I fucking did that with her and my aunts and all this bullshit to drag me out in the middle of the fucking night.

You're in a bad relationship and you're breaking up.

Watch porn and beat your dick raw until you can't walk.

Do that and shut the fuck up about it anymore.

You're going to bed with Vaseline dick.

Yeah, you'll have the surgical compression pants on.

So his lawyer said she's got an excuse for it

that she didn't care.

She said, quote, I mean,

if I'm going to be checking out my husband's new girlfriend, I'm going to be doing it late at night after my kids are asleep or any other time during the day.

Yeah.

You're going to go walk down, you're going to leave your sleeping children in the house and stalk your ex and then get information and look it up.

I don't think so.

So the interviewer said, so it's just a coincidence that the night you see that prowler at the next-door neighbor's driveway and his truck is there, it's just a coincidence that minutes later, Tim is doing research on the VIN number and the license tag.

Right.

And the lawyer says, that's not Tim in that video.

Okay.

Then did that person tell him about the tag in the VIN?

Because he looked it up minutes after whoever the fuck shadow person was looked at it.

So what are we talking about?

They said, what about the searches that were found in Tim's phone?

The lawyer said, there's no date or time as to when those searches were done.

So we don't know if they were actually done before the murder, and we don't know if they were done after the murder.

But the state is saying that they do have a time stamp on it, and it was minutes later.

Maybe you should ask them for discovery because they seem to have it.

Yeah, they have a lot of shit.

Well,

he hasn't even been arrested yet.

Oh.

They're collecting evidence.

They're just interviewing him and interviewing the lawyer.

So they end up searching a lagoon.

Apparently, Tim Tim is listed as co-owner of TBRK Properties LLC, the company which owns a trailer park, the Timber Ridge Mobile Home Park on East State Street, east of Quincy.

There's a lagoon there, so the police are in a boat searching the lagoon for the murder weapon is really what they're looking for.

So they said they use strong magnets to comb through the water, looking for metal, looking for a gun.

That's

the city.

I love those.

Those are cool.

they

do something cool, yeah, that's fun shit.

So, oh, especially in some lagoon by a trailer park, imagine the shit you're gonna pull out of there.

Oh, boy, oh, boy!

Holy crap!

So, the whoop device now

shows that the whoop was paired with a smartphone.

He described the whoop armband as a battery-powered, wearable device that uses a Bluetooth connection to send data to a paired smartphone that is then transmitted via the internet to your whoop account.

So, this is the timeline of events.

Morning of February 14th, 2023, which is when that

VIN numbers and everything were happening.

At 12 a.m., Tim's whoop device disconnected from his phone.

At 12:37 a.m., the camera recorded an individual walking up Becky's driveway next to Becky's house.

At 1.10 a.m., the whoop device reconnected to his phone at the same time his laptop was being used to search for information about Johnson's truck.

Wow.

Not good.

No.

Morning of February 21st, 2023.

At 12.44 a.m., his cell phone screen locked, which meant the phone was not being used.

At 12.45 a.m., the whoop device disconnected from his phone.

At 1 a.m., the bus garage camera recorded a bicyclist heading toward the direction of Becky's house.

At 1.17 a.m., the bicyclist passed the camera, headed north.

At 1.41 a.m., he passed the camera, headed south, going back to the house.

At 1.56, he passed by the camera, headed north.

At 2:11, the whoop device reconnected to the phone.

At 5:30 a.m., the phone was unlocked.

So he's leaving his phone behind to go do things.

Yes.

Yeah.

Exactly.

He's leaving his phone behind because he knows that's going to track.

That will track.

Yeah.

Yep.

So if he leaves at home, then it's different.

Looks like that.

Now, the morning, yeah, the morning of February 22nd, 2023, his whoop device at 12.45 a.m.

disconnected from his phone.

At 12.50 a.m., his cell phone screen locked.

At 12.57, the bicyclist passed by the garage.

At 1.05, the camera showed someone in the driveway next to Becky's house.

At 1.10, the bicyclist passed the garage, headed north.

At 1.15, the defendant's phone is unlocked, or Tim's phone is unlocked.

And at 1.16 a.m., his whoop is reconnected to the phone.

At 1.39 a.m., his phone is locked again, and the whoop device disconnected from his phone.

At 1.46 a.m., the bicyclist passed by the bus garage, headed south.

At 1.53 a.m., the camera recorded an individual in the driveway next to Becky's house.

At 2.08 a.m., a bicyclist passed the garage heading north.

At 2.19 a.m., the whoop device reconnected to his phone.

So he's been doing this every night is what that says.

These are the days before the murder.

Yeah.

Yes, he's making sure of what's going on and times and shit.

And he's keeping track of the calories he burns while he does it.

While he's done it.

He's Super fucking scummy.

He's like, I want to lose a couple of pounds while I'm doing this.

That's why I'm getting a bike, man.

He's going to keep track of my heart rate.

Jesus.

So the morning of February 23rd, 2023, that's when the murder happened.

12.36 a.m., Tim's whoop device disconnected from his phone.

12.38, his phone was locked.

12.55 a.m., a bicyclist passes the bus garage headed south.

The bike did not have reflectors.

There, by the way, we know that her phone tried to call 911 at at 1.11 a.m.

At 1.16 a.m., the bicyclist passes the garage heading north.

At 2.01 a.m., the whoop device is reconnected to his phone.

This man is just driving himself crazy.

This is fucking insane, man.

This is insane.

So they said, by the way, when they looked over his entire history with the whoop device,

besides this February 15th, through this period, no other times that he's ever had that was the device disconnected from the phone for a significant duration.

That wouldn't just be like a Bluetooth hiccup or something.

For that time, yeah.

In other words, the only gaps in the device were those that they identified as having occurred on February 14th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd.

All the same

corresponding with the same exact times that a man on a bicycle's seen on cameras going up to this house.

So then they ask him about the family feud joke.

What about that?

Yeah.

If you're so happy.

So the lawyer said, quote, it's a game show.

It's a silly answer to a silly question on a silly show.

Doesn't make one a murderer.

Standing in front of a man in a silly suit.

The whole thing's silly.

Yeah, but sometimes

people say truthful shit.

Many a joke is, what is that?

The many a jest is truth.

I don't know.

Every joke, there's a nugget of truth to it.

There's a bit of truth to it.

That's why it's funny.

It's funny because it's true.

Yeah, or it's got to be completely not true, and then it's absurd at that point.

But either way,

that's what you got to do.

Yeah, and maybe, and maybe you just

Freud would have a field day with this whole thing is the point.

Maybe he just blurted some shit out that he really meant, and it happened to fit.

Happened to be bad luck.

Who knows?

March 23rd, 2023, he's arrested finally.

So a month later, it takes them to arrest him.

The prosecution here is pointing out that on the day of the murder, hours before anyone except her killer knew she was dead, Tim brought a little tyke's basketball hoop over to his father's house.

What?

Little Tyke's hoop because he's got a five-year-old.

So think about that.

Those kids have not been allowed to go over there and see him unsupervised, but now that day, that morning, he's bringing a hoop over.

Like the kids have come over.

You're not worried about.

Now you're going to see these kids.

So the prosecutor said he's doing that because he knows Becky's not going to be a problem anymore.

Becky didn't want those boys around Ray.

And in Tim's mind, that problem was solved because Becky was dead.

When Tim was arrested, he was ordered held without bond.

He had a right to a speedy trial, as we all know from the Laurie Vallo thing.

If you press for that,

you're going to get a trial a lot quicker.

But you're also not going to have a lot of time to mount evidence either.

Really fucking sad.

to prepare for a defense.

So that meant the prosecutors would be required to try the case within 90 days of the arrest, which is really quick.

The prosecutor said, we are going to be ready, come hell or high water.

That close to that mess sip.

It's so weird.

So,

yeah.

Oh, shit.

Never mind.

I guess come hell.

We didn't realize it was raining so hard outside.

Fuck.

So the prosecutor also said, juries expect a confession.

They expect that DNA evidence says that it's one in 500 million.

We're going to have to show them that's not what we have here.

And it's true.

Lawyers used to be like, if they didn't have an eyewitness back in in the day, they wouldn't convict.

Whereas an eyewitness is the worst evidence possible.

Sure, sure.

You couldn't have a worse evidence than an eyewitness, but that used to be a thing.

Now they want DNA evidence.

They want someone on camera murdering someone or else they don't trust it.

You can get data that you were going 24 miles an hour and fucking reverse in your car.

And the people are like, I don't know.

I didn't see it on camera.

The audio's not exactly where

the car said it did that.

I don't know, man.

That's what happens.

So it's weird.

So anyway, he's arrested, and they expect a confession.

Now,

he's going to do a 48-hour interview.

That's where all of his quotes came from.

And he insists he's innocent.

Dude, he said, I'm innocent.

I didn't kill Becky.

If it weren't for this goddamn whoop.

This fucking whoop.

Why did I need to be so fit?

Why?

Why does it need to be named such an appropriate fucking thing?

And be accurate.

Whoops, you fucked up and murdered someone.

Now you're caught, asshole.

Shit.

What an idiot.

God damn it.

So his attorney continues defending him in public.

This is for the prosecutor said, and in the defendant's house, this is on 48 hours, we found stacks of Aldi bags.

He had fired through an Aldi bag, either in an attempt to muffle the sound or to catch the shell casings.

Yeah, both probably.

The prosecutor said in that process, DNA was left behind on a piece of plastic, and that was the one where it's more likely Tim than nobody else.

But that's not really, no jury's going to take that as anything.

Also, Tim could not be excluded from DNA that was found under Becky's fingernails as well.

Okay.

But they said that could have been one of her kids, too, because they have his DNA.

And they said it's the male contributor to that.

So they said that was three times more likely to have come from the defendant or a male relative from the lineage of the defendant, which is his kids who live with her.

Yeah, exactly.

Three, exactly.

So,

wow.

His lawyer says this case is dripping with reasonable doubt.

Casey Schnack is this lady's name, and she's got the hugest balls I've heard of anybody here.

She says the evidence is far from definitive.

This is her, they said, why does he have all these Aldi bags and finding the Aldi bags by there?

She said, quote, everyone in town has Aldi bags that they're hoarding.

What?

What?

Why?

Does everyone live in an apartment and have a dog?

Otherwise, they're not fucking hoarding these bags.

Yeah.

What kind of hot item are these Aldi plastic shopping bags?

Are they that thick?

Are they that real?

Are they like Target bags?

Like they're thick and nice.

They're fucking like Target's got those good ones.

Seven sheets of paper thick.

Oh, so thick.

They're great, man.

Yeah, nothing.

Any other, you go to Walmart and buy something.

It's all broken and ripped out by the time you get to your car.

If you put a Target bag over somebody's fucking head, they're not going to be able to tear a hole in that.

They're going down.

They couldn't chew their way through that shit.

They're going down.

Holy shit.

So they said, yeah, everyone in town has Aldi bags that they're hoarding.

They could have come from Becky's house.

Okay.

Or anybody else's.

But there weren't a fucking stack of them in her house.

And they said, with DNA from him?

Yeah.

And she said, well, because they transferred stuff back and forth for the boys in Aldi bags.

Oh, you know.

Dirty clothes you bring, and that's that's okay.

All right.

They said there was DNA found under Becky's fingernails, and his lawyer said, yeah, and it was just as likely to be Tim's as any one of the boys.

So what are we talking about here?

So he's charged with two counts of first-degree murder and one count of home invasion.

Oh, yeah, because it's not his home anymore.

It's not his home anymore.

So the trial starts, and this is amazing.

The prosecutor,

Joshua Jones, has a beef with the judge, a pre-beef with the judge.

Well, the judge has a beef with him, I should say.

In January of 2022, so

year and a half before this, Joshua Jones, the prosecutor, was in this judge's courtroom when he took the bench.

Before any case was called, the judge made the following statements in open court to the prosecutor: quote: Mr.

Jones, you may leave the courtroom.

Mr.

Jones, you may leave the courtroom.

I don't get on social media, but my wife does, and she saw the thumbs up you gave to people attacking me.

I can't be fair with you.

Get out.

Get out.

You're not trying this case because I can't be fair with you because I want to punch you in the dick right now.

Yeah.

So that's fucking amazing.

That's hilarious.

They ordered him out

as he was still sitting at the counsel table, a bailiff came up and said, you got to go.

I'm going to fucking drag your ass out.

So he said, the prosecutor said he wasn't sure to which social media post he was referring.

He noted that there had been several social media posts about

a case leading up to that day.

And one post was from a victim's advocacy group that made a post on Facebook that said, hold rapists accountable.

Because he felt like holding rapists accountable was part of his job as a prosecutor.

He liked the post.

How about you don't need to be on social media?

You don't need to do that.

How about that?

I mean, that one seems like, I mean,

what a bold stance to take.

You know what I mean?

Like,

yeah.

Who the fuck doesn't want to do that?

That's what I mean.

Oh, like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

I'm going to dogpile on this shit.

You're dumb.

So anyway, they got him back.

They get him in the same room, and they ended up getting an apology out of the prosecutor, and he accepted it, and then they started trying cases before him again.

So this is the same prosecutor and judge that we're dealing with in this case.

Jesus.

So here are the opening statements here, a bit from them.

The prosecutor says, the last minutes of Becky Bleefnik's life were not in the arms of her children.

Jesus Christ.

He said Becky had texted a family member saying if anything happened to her, it was Tim.

Tim told Becky she would not get his money as the two were going through a divorce.

And he also said all the bullets were fired from the same gun, describing the last moments of Becky's life in his opening statement, saying the defendant looked down at Becky and he pointed a gun at her and he pulled the trigger.

Said shell casings were found near her body.

There's numerous objections from the defense, by the way, during the opening.

Which that's a strategy that some lawyers don't like to object during statements because it makes you look like you're trying to shut the other person up and not let them get their point out.

And juries don't like that.

But if it's going beyond the scope of, you know, if you're fucking your client more because they're saying shit that's not in evidence or something, then you got him.

So it got to be so many objections that the lawyers and judge had to go have a

sidebar in chambers to talk about it.

The prosecutor said before stepping into the chambers, the prosecutor said 27 shell casings were also found in Tim's basement.

He said they matched the type of casings found near the body.

The prosecutor also says that Tim's internet search history includes how to use a crowbar, how to make a homemade silencer, police response times, how to open a window from the outside, using a crowbar, and how to wash gunpowder from your hands.

Yeah.

Basical, basic fucking murder walkthrough.

I'm looking for.

You know, you look for video game walkthroughs on YouTube.

He's looking for a murder walkthrough.

Yeah.

I'm always looking for cheat codes for

Blitz, NFL Blitz or something.

Yeah, yeah, for your arcade thing.

Yeah, how do I, yeah, I'm sitting here in Red Dead.

How do I get into that world without having to go through the whole thing?

Oh, I got to go up to the mountain and stand there.

If you stand there while they shoot at you and arrest you, then it's okay, and you go to another world.

Big head code, get rid of GSR.

Same thing.

Same shit.

Same shit.

Fucking code for Contra for unlimited lives.

Same thing.

So

the prosecutor says Tim climbed onto the second story of the home, busted through the window using a crowbar, and shot her 14 times, leaving her terrified, bleeding, and alone.

Saying that leading up to the murder about a week before, a person seen in video riding a bicycle from the direction of the defendant's house to the direction of the victim's house, laid out evidence of the whoop and everything else, saying that it points directly to Tim, starting out with odd pieces of Aldi bags.

They told the jury they found stacks of Aldi bags during the search of his home.

And he said he had fired through an Aldi bag, either in an attempt to muffle or to catch the shell casings.

The prosecutor said she showed weakness to a predator, and that's what predators do.

When they see weakness, they attack.

And they said that also explains the point of entry, an upstairs window in one of the kids' bedrooms.

The prosecutor said, if you're a random intruder, why do you go to the second floor window?

You go past not just one window, but three windows that are possible entrance points.

Go to the sleepiest one.

Yep.

You just happen to get lucky that it's a little boy's room and that he's not there that night.

Wow.

You have to know that.

You have to know that.

Exactly.

So the defense attorney here, Casey Schneck, begins her opening statement here.

Yeah.

And she said, listen, this case is, quote, dripping with reasonable doubt.

Why did they always do it, Jack?

Dripping like blood or jizz or other things that makes you think of this woman died with not a drop in her.

Why would she

say it?

How many episodes?

It's like every episode, pretty much, they do it.

They can't help it.

I don't know what it is.

They can't help it.

Man.

And he said, they also, she went on to say, just because they were going through a contentious divorce, that doesn't mean that he killed her.

Lots of people go through contentious divorces.

They said that I discount all this evidence, saying that the experts' opinion

concerning the shell casings is, quote, subject to human error.

Oh, my God.

Well, I mean, everything is subject to human error.

They're saying ballistics match, that's subject to human error.

If you fuck it up, you fuck it up, and then

it matches something else.

Which at that point, it's your job to bring in an expert to say it doesn't match that.

You can't just go, well, you could be wrong, right?

I mean, that's not a defense.

She suggests also to the jury that everyone in town has stacks of Aldi grocery bags in their house.

That's not incriminating.

So if you have a few people who don't have several hundred plastic shopping bags in their house, they're like, we all have stacks of these things.

What are you talking about?

I wonder if Aldi made this the reason that they don't have because you have to bring back the one by my house at least you have to bring your own bags and you have to pay a quarter for their fucking cart and then bring it back and then you get the quarterback.

New York, that's all the grocery stores with the quarter.

And here they don't do plastic bags at all.

The only one in Arizona that does it.

Yeah, only like little convenience stores do plastic bags here because they're not supposed to.

I don't think it's legal.

So yeah, everybody else does paper.

People bring their own bags.

They sell the like insulated bags too you could get i i choose to believe that all the shopping places just don't want to be tied to a murder anymore i think so

i think that's got to be what it is so that's why whoops aren't for sale anymore are they off the market you can't buy it on amazon it's it's unavailable interesting so she also pointed out that the bike that was found doesn't have tim's dna on it And she says prosecutors can't even say for sure whether that bike that was found is the same bike from the videos.

Never mind a bike that Tim was on.

You can't even put him on on the bike, and you can't even say

from the videos that bike's even his.

Maybe it works.

She says, On his hands, we don't know.

You never know.

It's on his head.

Maybe.

She said that it's not Tim in the videos.

She told the jury, you can't tell who's on the bike from the videos.

She said the evidence will not show beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed the murder.

She said there's a lack of physical evidence, no murder weapon, no bloody clothing.

And while police seized multiple pairs of Tim's shoes, they were unable to match them to a partial shoe print found at the scene.

They said they took every pair of athletic shoes that they thought would be a match, and they didn't find any that were a suitable match.

She points out that Tim's DNA was not on the patio chair as well.

She said nothing on that was connected to Tim.

They took every pair of gloves from his car, house, and they could not find, none of those had anything linking him to this crime.

She says she believes investigators should have given more weight to the idea that it could have been an intruder who killed Pecky and a break-in gone wrong.

She points out that investigators never found shoes to match the partial shoe print, which she could have thrown out.

I mean, that's...

I mean,

that seems like something you didn't have to Google.

How to dispose of shoes.

In garbage or a lagoon.

Thanks, Google.

Thanks.

She said, you can't say

with a reasonable degree of certainty that

the person on any of those videos is him.

All you see is a bike without reflectors.

So what the fuck?

Investigators should have given other weight to the other shit.

She also pointed out that there's no date or time as to when those searches on his phone were conducted.

She said they could have been done after the murder, which why the fuck would you search that shit after a murder?

That makes no sense.

She said his DNA wasn't found on the bike, and we don't even know that the bike, we don't even know that the bike that was found is the same bike in the video, and we don't know if it was him on the bike, so who knows?

Becky's sister Sarah testifies here.

She said that Becky often posted on Facebook about her sons.

The prosecution asked about texts from September 2021, and that's the if something ever happens to me text

that she gets to read out loud.

And Sarah's all choked up about all this shit.

I can't imagine.

The defense asked her when's the last time she saw Tim.

She said she hadn't seen him since 2019.

Years.

So three years before the murder even happened.

She lived in New York, too.

She didn't live around here.

She said she's never witnessed him and Becky fight.

And when she talked to her mom February 23rd, she said her mom didn't know anything aside from the fact that Becky died.

She, um, yeah, she said that she did not forward the text messages to her parents or police before Becky was killed.

Because that wasn't the point of the text message.

It was

because the defense tried to say, well, if you were so concerned, why didn't you send these texts to your parents or the police?

I wasn't concerned.

She was concerned.

Yeah, she was concerned.

And it was six months later.

So by then, then, I thought maybe the concern had waned.

And she did take them to the police.

She did go to the police, and they told her there's nothing they could do about it.

Well, Becky did.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

They're talking about the text that Becky sent Sarah saying, if anything happens to me, it's Tim.

They're saying, Sarah, before the murder, why didn't you go to the police with that?

Because it's not your responsibility.

It's Becky's.

That doesn't do anything.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, then tell her to come in with evidence, which is

tell her to stop on by.

So then they get Ted Johnson on there.

Yeah.

And he said that she was looking forward to being alone.

He talks about texts on February 14th and that he spent the night at her house and he parked behind her house near the driveway.

They said, did you and Becky have sex that night?

And he replied, yes.

They said that on February 23rd, Becky's sister messaged Johnson to ask him to call.

She broke the news about Becky's death.

He said he was not exclusively dating Becky, but he wasn't having sex with anyone else.

He testified he was holding a bag for Becky in a safe.

He said he didn't know what was in it.

And when the defense asked him

if he knew $13,000 was in the bag, he said that he didn't have a key to Becky's house, and he doesn't know.

He said that the day before Becky was killed, he didn't go to Becky's house.

He said the night she was murdered, he doesn't recall if he left the house.

Before he said he had gone to a friend's house that night.

So the defense really jumps on that as, oh, he doesn't know where he was.

So then they get the crime scene people here, and they testify that gunshot residue can be washed off with soap and water.

And they said, it doesn't take much, does it?

And they said, nope, not at all.

They said, and it be after about six hours, it becomes less likely to be able to test for it anyway, just because it's wiping on other things.

They said that as your sweat will get it off.

And they said that

they found how to wash gunpowder from your hands in a search history.

A pair of gloves they found.

They said the gloves were not tested for gunshot residue.

More photos of gloves were shown in court.

One pair was seen tossed in a trash can.

They seized these gloves on March 1st, and they said that too much time had passed from when the gloves were collected from the murder until now to have the from the murder to have it tested.

Also, they tell that prosecutors tell the jury that police found this crowbar in Tim's basement.

Then they call an expert to the stand who testifies that she compared it to the tool marks left on the window that was pried open at Becky's house.

They're microscopic consistencies, but she couldn't say with scientific certainty that the crowbar made those marks.

It's not a bullet.

There's no ballistics here.

So the defense here.

When asked about this later on, they say when the defense had its turn to call witnesses, it chose to call none.

And they asked his lawyer, you could have brought in your own expert to say those things didn't match.

They're going to rest on what the fucking state.

Dude, that is great evidence.

They're just going to go, well, we felt they didn't prove anything.

Like, huh?

Well, you got 12.

So we proved a lot here.

Your whoop tells them everything.

So they said, why didn't you bring your own expert?

And the defense attorney says, hmm, I guess we could have, but we were strapped on time and funds.

We couldn't afford it.

So they said, you've got a man's life on the line.

And the defense attorney said, And he didn't want us to do that.

He didn't want you to put on a defense.

I don't think he did.

I doubt that.

So they might have told him what it costs.

Who knows?

So during closing now, before they rested the case, they said they dropped the spent shell casings bomb on the jury there.

And an expert testified that they determined that they were all fired from the same gun that killed Becky.

That's not good.

So the prosecutor says each time each firearm leaves its own fingerprint on every shell casing that it fires, it was the same gun that killed Becky that fired these shell casings that were found around in Tim's residence.

The defense said that's the expert's opinion.

At the end of the day, it's subject to human error like anything else.

Okay.

Wow.

They said, now, additionally, the elephant in the room, the Google searches, the state did not tell you when those were done that they cannot tell you you when those searches were done and they cannot tell you who did those searches.

If those searches took place before Becky's death, I would admit it should be considered by you for whatever that's worth.

But they can't tell you that.

Nobody can tell you that and you're not allowed to guess.

If these searches took place after Becky's death, and then the searches, then the searches should indicate there's nothing more than the defendant looking into the investigation like half the town did.

Well, half the town has garbage, has LD bags, and they all looked into this case as evidence real intricately.

And following the investigation, as the news allowed us to, follow the evidence.

But they can't tell us when those searches were done, and it's not my job to tell you or prove to you when they were done.

These searches indicate nothing more than somebody looking on the internet.

I think it's for murder shit.

That's what, yes,

you need the second half of the sentence for murder shit.

She then said, I think it's logical to do, even if something like this were to happen to your family.

But the state wants you, each and every one of you, to speculate.

And the state wants each and every one of you to guess when those searches took place.

All right, prosecution's got a rebuttal, and it's funny.

The defense says maybe the searches were done after Becky was found murdered.

One of the things about this trial that's been complained about is how tight-lipped we've been.

Information has not been released to the public, and that's true, too.

They were releasing it like unsealing shit, like real gradually.

They said if he was searching for this information after Becky was murdered, how did he know that a crowbar was used?

He just got lucky and guessed.

Yeah.

He said, nobody knew that a crowbar was used.

That wasn't released to the public.

That's big.

He said, nobody knew that a window was used.

That wasn't released to the public.

Nobody knew that the neighbors didn't hear shots, that an improvised silencer might have been used.

That wasn't released to the public.

None of those things that were released to the public, but they all appeared on his phone.

Yeah, he's searching all those facts.

All the things we didn't tell anybody about.

And,

wow, he also said the last point I will make is this, and it goes to the searches on his cell phone.

The defense says maybe the searches were done after Becky was found murdered.

One of the things about this trial that's been complained about is how tight-lipped we've been, and that's that part.

Okay.

So interesting there.

So, yeah, it all appeared on his phone.

Now, the verdict here, after all that,

five hours of deliberation.

It's pretty quick, right?

Yeah, that's pretty quick, but it's not first vote.

Quick.

Maybe it is.

Well, yeah, maybe it's not first vote.

Yeah.

Unless they had to go over stuff because sometimes you'll get, like with the Lori Vallo thing, it only took a couple hours because

the Lori had asked them to watch the full interrogation video and said, you'll get...

So they sat and watched the full interrogation video.

That was most of the time they were deliberating, was just that.

And they were like, oh, there's nothing else on there that we didn't see.

Okay, yeah, guilty.

We got it.

We nailed it.

Five hours

of deliberation, they find him guilty of all charges.

Got him.

Got him.

When the jury began deliberating, they took a vote and there was a not guilty.

Really?

Someone voted not.

Someone needed to be talked into this for five hours.

What?

Unbelievable.

Someone really wanted to kill his wife someday and he's like, look.

What the hell?

I wear a Fitbit and hate my wife.

We can't convict this guy, right?

Oh, boy.

Wow.

So during sentencing, they bring in the victim impact statements, and Becky's sister said, Tim orchestrated the worst possible horror for my father.

It wasn't enough

for him to murder my father's daughter.

He had to have him find her and let that be the image and the last thing that he had of her.

Yeah, the father found her.

It's horrible.

They said, your children's future will forever be impacted by your crime.

They're already suffering.

Maybe you should have Googled childhood PTSD in between your internet searches for homemade silencers and VIN numbers.

Boom.

That's a good fucking, that's a good victim impact statement there.

The brother-in-law, this is Sarah's husband, said that, did you think about 12-year-old?

I won't use his name because they're all still minors.

They've had enough fucking problems.

Nobody needs their names out there.

Did you think about 12-year-old Blank as you broke through his window?

Did you think about 10-year-old Blank as you charged down his hallway, chasing his defenseless mommy en route to slaughter his entire world?

On August 23rd, on August 11th, 2023, I asked this court to show the same mercy he showed Becky when he left her alone on that cold bathroom floor, paralyzed from the waist down,

unable to breathe because a bullet had pierced her lung.

Mike Trump.

Oh my God.

The defense comes in and says, listen, you should consider his behavior prior to the murder.

Yeah.

What are we talking about here?

She said he's got a college education, full-time employment, financial stability, and a clean criminal record before making one bad decision.

That shows that he had to go extra far out of his way to get there then.

That makes him worse.

If he's a guy who's like had a horrible life and no education and been in and out of prison, I go, that's not a far jump for him.

I get it.

But this is like, you really had to want a murder to do this.

And like this.

The way it was done,

if you've never done anything ever and this is the first thing you're doing, this is so crazy.

You're a bad thing.

You're terrible.

You've been storing this up in your whole life, and you're fucking

your own children's lives.

This is crazy.

As crime one, what the fuck, dude?

So the defense attorney said the judge of the court, which is the judge, cannot ignore the things that Tim has done in his life that were positive.

Great.

Well, the judge had an option of sentencing him to anywhere between 45 years in prison and life in prison without parole, anywhere in there.

Okay.

So the judge says,

Mr.

Blind Bleefnik, you researched this murder.

You planned this murder.

You broke into her house, and he actually said this.

You shot her one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen times.

He said loud.

Yeah.

He went through it to show how many that is.

And cruel that is.

And another that you missed, you piece of shots.

You piece, you loser.

Some of those shots were fired while she was

lying on the ground, and you did all of that while your children were upstairs at your house, lying snug in their beds.

The court believes that the only appropriate sentence is, you, sir, may fuck off.

Life in prison, no parole.

14 times.

All the dicks.

Yeah.

Eat them all, motherfucker.

That is a lot.

So,

I think, yeah, this is some cold, calculated shit.

This isn't heat of the moment.

No, this is

an argument.

I mean, obviously.

Yeah.

He gets in an argument that he shoots or whatever.

I mean, that's horrible.

He can't do that, obviously.

And he should go to prison for 40 years or something, but maybe that's not life without parole.

But this shit is calculated and disturbing.

You can't leave your kids at home and go kill the person you're in a contentious divorce with in that, I mean, in the a a week before your fucking trial, too, your divorce trial.

14 fucking shots.

You emptied a gun into a woman.

Yeah.

So the prosecutor said they got to tell

Becky's mother about this, about the sentence, and said it was the best feeling in the world.

It was probably as great a feeling as when the verdict came down because she just said, oh, that's such good news.

Thank you.

And she was laughing with joy.

She was so happy and she just said, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Now I can go tell the rest of the family I'm going to call them.

Oh, boy.

So he does sit down for the 48 hours interview.

It was about a month after his conviction, right before sentencing is when he did it.

And they asked him, did you ever imagine you'd be here?

Yeah.

And he said, no, no, never.

At times, it's felt like I'm watching somebody else's life from the outside, like it can't be me.

He said that the only thing I can do right now is what we are doing, filing an appeal.

I have to.

I have to believe the process because

if not emotional.

And they said, tell me what you're thinking right now.

And he said, my kids, I just want them to know that I love them and I miss them and I'm innocent.

I didn't kill Becky.

Dude, you can't say this.

Even your lawyer was like, I mean, you know, he did one bad thing.

So the sister, this is Becky's sister, Sarah, said he called my dad to set him up to find her.

That alone shows how cruel he really is.

As agonizing as our pain is, I want him to understand that his worst crime was against his own children.

By the way, the sons live with Becky's parents, who are in the process of legally adopting them.

Okay, that's good.

Because he's life without, so he's done.

October.

October 2024, he wanted a new trial.

New trial.

Here are the three reasons.

The court admitted evidence that was irrelevant or not otherwise admissible under the forfeiture by wrongdoing doctrine, which means that if someone attempts to stop a witness from testifying via wrongdoings, the court can still use the witness's statement or evidence, even if it wouldn't be allowed normally.

The state argued that the testimony contained enough facts to to be relevant, citing the example of the victim changing the locks and Tim searching on the internet for how to open a bar, how to bar open a door or window.

So they also cited the example of not returning the victim's gun, therefore had an opportunity to commit the crime with that gun.

Reason two, the prosecutor was allowed to make representations to the jury during rebuttal argument that were not admitted into evidence or subject to cross-examination.

When you do a rebuttal, you know how there's prosecution does the closing, defense then does a close a closing after that then the prosecution comes back with a rebuttal the things they say can only be a rebuttal to what the defense just said you can't put new shit out there now yeah it has to be a rebuttal to what they said same thing when when you see a

a re a re direct examination or a recross like that, it has to be on what the other lawyer just questioned them about.

It can't just be like new shit.

You can't save some shit for later and then pop up with it.

This is Lori Vallo's whole fucking

argument.

You present a case, they present a case, and then they present a case, I present a case, and then they get to rebut it.

It's just not fair.

And then they get to rebut it.

It's not fair.

Okay.

Unbelievable.

So also, reason three is that the case should have been tried before a different judge who had no relation to the prosecutor trying the case.

Now, this is stupid because the prosecutor and the judge didn't get along.

It's not like they were brothers.

They didn't get along.

Just because there was an apology and an accepted apology doesn't mean that there was no acrimony between them.

That's crazy.

They said a case this important should not be tried or should be tried by a judge whose career is not resting in the hands of the prosecutor trying the case because prosecutor was testifying against this guy in a judicial review case.

Who cares?

Also, hearsay.

Following statements by Becky were allowed in.

Yes, I absolutely worry he will try to take the kids sometime, especially if he gets awarded the custody I want.

He will be pissed and do whatever he feels like doing.

Talking about a friend of hers being murdered,

saying that to make all this crap up and blame it on me.

What else is he willing to do if he'll do that?

Saying, I told my lawyer I either want an order of protection for myself and the kids or at least make a statement in court about what he did.

So it's on record.

Quote, I'm never wanting to, I'm wanting to never have my children around them alone ever again, meaning his family.

It's gotten to the point where I hate even going to work for fear he will secretly take off with the kids and I won't see him for a long time.

I don't think an order of protection will be issued because they'll say his violent outbursts, bursts haven't been egregious enough.

It's a fucking nightmare.

That's a whole statement on its own.

And then the text to her sister if something ever happens to me.

So, in response here, the appellate court ruled, just as with the forfeiture by wrongdoing doctrine, a defendant's success in silencing Becky should not be rewarded by his use of her own privilege to frustrate this truth-seeking process looking into her death.

If someone's going to say a bunch of bad shit that would incriminate you, you can't just kill them and then you're not allowed to say that.

They can take those statements because you killed them to shut them up.

So they said it is true.

Becky may have had specific information.

She preferred to remain confidential under ordinary circumstances, but a murder trial is not an ordinary circumstance.

And the jury has been made privy to the most intimate aspects of Becky's life.

Denied.

Fuck off.

Back to prison, asshole.

They have started a GoFundMe

for the kids

for a memorial for her and a support fund for the kids here.

They said that she leaves behind three young children and an entire community who loved her more than anything.

She always envisioned herself working hands-on in the medical profession.

So they talk about all this.

They said, we're thankful to everyone who's offered prayers and supports.

The family seems like nice people.

They don't seem like they seem like Becky comes from a real nice family of real nice normal people, and they didn't want some scumbag killing their fucking family member.

That's all.

None of these people are, they don't seem wacky or crazy at all.

They all seem pretty much on the level.

And meanwhile, you got this guy who's a murderer we know of and his dad who may or may not only like to molest young girls, allegedly.

The other interesting part is that like she they she clearly had some sort of gut feeling about his behavior.

She didn't have any proof, but she was just like, I know what I know.

I know what I know.

I knew him for 15 years.

This man's fucking dangerous.

Yes.

I knew him for 15 years and I know him.

And nobody listened to her.

It's fucking sad.

GoFundMe raised $130,666

out of the $250,000 goal.

This is 1.2,000 people have donated already.

So I think the family feud thing helped because we've got a little hook for it.

She, poor Becky, is buried at Cavalry Cemetery in Quincy, Illinois.

So her hometown.

So there you go, everybody.

That's Quincy, Illinois.

And just a giant asshole.

Tim's an asshole.

If you're going to be one of those guys who's not a criminal or anything like that, don't be a fucking murderer.

And then if you're going to be a murderer, don't do it that way.

It's just disgusting.

Ew is right.

Kill her?

What is wrong with you?

You're not a murderer, man.

Don't murder her.

No.

If you murder her, you're going to be a murderer.

But there's bad ones to do that.

And then people will call you a murderer.

Yeah.

And this lady didn't deserve.

She didn't deserve to be murdered.

There's just no, she did nothing except he filed for fucking divorce.

She didn't even file for divorce.

You're on your way out, man.

It's almost done.

I went out of this.

She said, let's get counseling.

And he's like, I got to kill her.

Like, what the fuck are you doing?

He must have been having an affair or something, but that never came up.

I would assume they would have found that, but I don't know what his fucking problem is.

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Jimmy, hit me with the names of the people who would never, ever, ever disconnect their whoops to come murder us.

Hit me with them right fucking now.

This week's executive producers are Alexandra Armstrong, Gary Howard, Peyton Meadows, Joey Morrissey, and Sammy the Judgmental Potato.

Whatever that is, that's fantastic.

Thank you, so much.

I'm going to touch the shit out of you.

Thank you so much.

Other producers this week are Breonna Bird.

She got her master's in psychology.

I found out because her friend Cassie told me.

Holy shit.

I don't keep track of that shit.

You don't keep track of people's fucking

educational

achievements?

Not me.

Okay.

Eli Covington, Janice Hill, Trina Gager, I think, or maybe Gager.

Maybe Gagger.

I hope it's Gager.

Foxy T.

Oh, no, it's just Fox T.

Kurt Keeter.

Josh Perkins.

Jen Young.

Hannah Dixon.

Jill Silva.

Catherine the Sass.

I think it's Sasshole.

I doubt it's Sash Hole, right?

I don't know.

Probably Sasshole makes more sense.

Probably.

Erica Beaker, Liz Avery.

Jody wants us to participate in the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, so we may have to look into that.

It's all the way in Edinburgh, James.

Yeah, that's a little far.

It's a long point.

Alexa.

Alexa?

Alexa Fenters?

That's for people trying to get their name out there.

We're fine.

Heather R., Samantha Quinn, I.

Crominger.

Oh.

William O'Connor.

Derek Glaha.

Donald Rump.

What the shit in Christ.

Jane Ring.

Lex Garrett.

What is it?

CF My Solf.

Are you trying to get me to say myself something?

What is that?

What are you trying to say?

What are you trying to say?

What are you trying to get me to say now?

Sarah Gilbert.

Probably not that one.

I don't mind.

Kimberly Ola,

Amy Hansen Wood, Lisa Holton, Gentry with no last name, Lisa Ballou, Matt Kirk, Kayla Ross, Joanna Jacobson, Tammy Mara Quinn, Kevin Boggs II,

Hans Hansen, no way.

Tito Perry, M.

Vi.

Or V maybe.

I don't know.

VY is Vi usually, right?

Tiffany with no last name.

Randy Wagner.

I got to talk myself through it.

Connie Davis, Ashley Clark, Casey B, Michael Walker, James Pearl, Drew Roberts, Charlotte Hummel, Kim Mize, Armise, maybe, Laura D'Archangelo,

Rachel Croft, Keila, Keila H, Keela, Cassandra Archibald, Callie Needhammer, Nidehmmer, I don't know, Michael Panetta, Liz Daniel, Liz Danielle, maybe it's just Daniel, Lindsey Nyland, Diane Hazen, Chris Rumer, Chris Rumer Webster.

You got two, obviously.

I think it's thank you.

One guy, two patrons.

You're the best guy.

You are the shit.

You're really overachieving.

Shane Nugent, Concord with no last name, MDI 69.

Patty Cakes, Melissa Williams, Joel Seha, or yeah, it's Seha.

Matthew Smith, James Hodge, Randy Gallup, Alicia Medeiros, Tanker Tom, 68.

Scott Williams, probably not that one.

Renee Bouton.

What?

I'll move on.

William Ashworth, Jennifer Locklear, Jennifer Barnes, Riley Smith, Alexandra Glenn Burroughs, Danny Hill, Pamela McLean, Richard Amos, Kat

Herbert Meyer, Herbert Meyer.

That's a brutal name.

Ashley Pagano

can do that.

Samantha Glatfelter, Kenny Barrett, Christine

Gulke.

God damn it.

Elizabeth Jones, Cheryl Moore, Kyra Wheaton, Jill with no last name.

Lord Gavatron, Jake with no last name.

Danielle with no last name.

Nick Kropp.

Nope, that's Corp.

Jonathan Kowalski, Craig Machin, Machin, Melissa Reams,

Angie Slater, Mike Kelly, Alex, Alex Escovel,

Alex,

Hondroyu, no last name.

Sherry Bouton.

I said that.

Is that a different Bouton?

Wow, more Bhutans.

Jesus Christ.

My Bhutan.

I'll just say that.

Kevin Paterote.

Bethany with no last name.

Ty Lazard.

Happy Toby.

PQ, Pete Sanok,

Gaby or Gabby with no last name.

Joker with no last name.

Joe Morris, he donated both ways.

Thank you, Joe.

Thank you.

Ashley Garrett, Catherine Godfrey, Catherine Dwayne, Barb with no last name.

All-Star Cleaning Solutions.

They're in Shapin, South Carolina.

That's the easiest way to get an advertisement for your business, I suppose.

Why not?

Happy commercials.

Nikki with no last name.

Bill H.

Casey Merrill.

Bob Loblob.

Man, it's Lawloblob.

Bob Loblob.

Bob Loblaw.

Bob Loblaw's Loblaw.

Arrested Development.

It's an arrested development joke.

That's what it is.

I was like, that's got to be from something.

La Blaw.

Bob LaBlaw's Law Blog.

It's the fucking funniest thing.

Diane with no last name.

And

Lishka with no last name.

Amber Lynn, no last name.

Just Cody El Diablo Blanco Toxico.

I think that's the toxic white devil, right?

I think so.

I don't know.

Rebecca Hurley, Maggie, or yeah, Maggie Hennessy.

Dana Nicole,

what?

Bick Ford.

I think it's Jennifer.

That's what it's pronounced.

Dana Nicole Poutan.

Jennifer Redman, George with no last name.

William Dunn Pills.

Rachel with no last name.

Michaela Brownlee, Kelly Krull, Rob with no last name.

I'm going to just put Pouton if they don't know what.

We used to do horror, remember?

That was the same thing.

Yeah.

Carrie Robertson,

Kristen Montanero, Deb Martinez, Veronese Putin, Paul Poutan, Sierra Tragdon,

Sam Poutan, Cherry Blonde, Barbara Baylor, DJ Putin, Amber Puckett, Joseph Kane, Gabby Bailey, Aaron Anselmo, Robert Vieira, Samantha Clifford, Carly,

Carrie Wa Woff, maybe, Hugh G.

Rection, James.

Oh, wow, probably somebody's name.

That's Bart Sam.

The JFK was no scoped.

I don't know what that means.

Was not scoped?

He's dead, so it did happen.

Kylie, 2016, Quentin Williams, Wildflower, Allison MacArthur, Kevin Sconard, Sconnard, Joanne Putan, Karen Saisek, Vicki Orvin,

Richard Jalinen, what is this?

Mackenzie Kidwell, Kathy Falk, Bird Putin, Akeelah Bailey, Ashley S., Miranda Putan, Megan Garmin, Erica Espinoza, and all of our Putins.

You're fantastic.

Thank you so much, everybody, for all that you do for us.

You beautiful, beautiful sons of bitches.

We love you from the bottom of our hearts.

Thank you for everything.

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