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an odd alter ego and even eating parts of certain victims while drawing strange pictures and

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Let's do this, everybody. Let's go on a trip, shall we? Yeah, we shall.
Let's do it. We are going to Maryland this week.
We are in Bethesda, Maryland. This is in Central.
This is a popular place. It is.
We've all heard of Bethesda. Yeah, Bethesda has been, I don't know why.
Was it? I don't know. I i feel like those old tv ads there was people that were like you know uh send a a self-addressed stamped envelope it was something i think a lot of that shit came maybe there yeah i think that's what it was maybe i don't know so this isn't self-addressed remember allow six to eight weeks for shipping or whatever the hell you want this thing off tv you can have it two months from now just what happened i want to know why i know so much about bethesda that i don't know anything about it well we'll find out some stuff about here it's in central maryland with maryland's like a lot of panhandles all together this is a very strange shaped place the middle one here yeah they definitely kind of made that one up as far as the land goes there's nothing no natural borders to it where you go yeah that's where it Oh, yeah.
It's a very strange shaped place. The middle one here.
Yeah, they definitely kind of made that one up as far as the land goes. There's no natural borders to it where you go, oh yeah, that's where it ends.
Oh yeah. Apart from the ocean.
Yeah, and the ocean and the rivers. It's about 20 minutes to Washington, D.C.
from here. Okay.
And about 45 minutes to Baltimore. So it's actually closer to D.C.
than Baltimore here. Yeah.
Maybe it was in the wire. Possibly.
Yeah. That's a possibility.
Billy, about two hours and 45 minutes to Pocomoke City, Maryland, which was our last episode

in Maryland. here yeah maybe it was in the wire possibly yeah that's a that's a possibility about two hours and 45 minutes to poke them oak city maryland which was our last episode in maryland gone like a ghost that was a very weird episode there just a disappearance completely um this is in montgomery county area code 301 the motto here is an uncommon mix of life and style it is oh god jesus dude that's uncommon that's such a marketing can't like that's they hired a company yeah they they paid five grand for that and someone gave them that slogan um some of the history here a little bit uh most of the settlers here were tenant farmers who paid their rent in tobacco oh try that now yeah pay your rent in anything but currency just tobacco just give them a pile of marlboros and see if that's is this good drop kick them a carton a newport is that all right or no square a couple reviews of this town here uh we'll get through them pretty quick because we have a lot of crazy story here here's five stars okay what i love the most about Bethesda is its safety.
Having lived in several countries, that doesn't sound good when we're talking about a show called Small Town Murder. Bethesda's safe because I've been to Uganda.
It's definitely the safest place I've lived in. Wow.
Moreover, it's very international. I also love how clean it is and how green everything looks during the summer.
However, it's very residential, so it's not a very walkable city. How many times did they say very in this review? Yeah.
A few. It also has to be, it also can be a bit too calm sometimes.
Okay. A little too calm, not enough partying.
Is that good? I don't know. It depends on what you're looking for, I guess, right? One star, we've lived in Bethesda for a year, and we cannot wait until our lease expires so we can get out of Bethesda.
Oh. My car was broken into a month after moving to the, quote, nice neighborhood.
Uh-huh. Well, that's where the nice cars are to break into.
You don't break into shit. You don't break into somebody's

85 fucking Caprice? No.

They don't leave money in there.

There is constant mayhem

from construction in the downtown area.

You know, improvements.

The construction causes mayhem? Improvements and stuff

of making it a nicer place.

The drivers are chaotic.

There are a few safe places to walk

to restaurants because the drivers are unpredictable. We'll just jump up on the curb and take you out on the sidewalk.
It's very hot and humid. Well, yeah, that's the East Coast.
The J2 bus is okay, but the bus drivers are aggressive. Yeah, it's a bus driver.
Jesus Christ. That's great.
There are a few normal primary care doctors, just urgent care that acts as primary care on paper, but without the trust or security of actual doctor-patient interactions. Rent is absurd, but most of the housing is dated and low quality.
Okay, that's great. And they say that there's no good mechanics in the area, just some extremely expensive dealerships.
Very specific complaints. This person wants somebody to do everything for them.
And they're upset that everything can't be done exactly how they want it. And this person is an incapable person of taking care of themselves.
No, they can't do much here. Jesus Christ.
I mean, I guess if you're not a doctor or a mechanic, it would be hard to take care of that stuff. Yeah, I don't know.
Mechanics well yeah well can't look at a car and do anything if you've got a scanner it's not hard well you just gotta take fucking everything if you're a professional if you own a professional shop yeah you know my father can fix any car up till about 1998 and then it starts to be in computers fix everything today too he just needs the computer that tells him what do. He doesn't have because he doesn't have a shop.
And then you've got to take everything out to do one little thing. I think that computer's expensive.
I think it is, yeah. I think you only get it when you're certified.
I think probably, yeah. So people in this town, 66,294 people.
So a little big, but still a suburb and definitely residential. That's why we put those reviews to tell you that.
It's 52% female, so way more females than males. Median age is a few years higher than the national average.
It's 43. It's a very suburban family type of place.
61% married, which is well above the national average. Very low people that are single with children is only 6.5%.
You get married, you buy an expensive house that you can't afford to get divorced in. That's it.
And you work on your own car. You stay together.
And you just let your cars die and put them in the garage. Race in this town, 74.8% white, 3.6% black, 11% Asian, 7.2% Hispanic.
So some mix up in there. Religion, 40% of the people here are religious.
So it's lower than our normal here. We have Catholic is the most.
Yeah. But it's not by that big of a margin, though.
Really? It's not. We'd say that it's the Baptists of the North, but we're really not in the North.
And it's just... It's a hodgepodge.
They just happen to have seven or eight more. Baptists of the mid-Atlantic region here.
That's about it here. The unemployment rate here is about average.
Median household income here is very high. Rest of the country, $69,000.
Here, $178,370. These people are crushing life.

They're killing it.

That's almost three times the national average of everything.

But the cost of living, you need to make that.

Outrageous.

$100 is average.

Here, it's $138,500.

$138,500.

That's not that bad.

You're making three times the national average in money.

Yeah, but the home cost is the problem.

That's the big one.

That's what drives it all the way up.

The home cost, median home cost here the problem that's the big one that's what drives it all the way up the home cost median home cost here 1 million 72 thousand 100 dollars so you better be making 200 grand a year to buy any house is your average house yeah so that's for every two for every half a million dollar house there's a million and a half that's exactly right so So if you've saved up your money you're all ready to go we have for you the bethesda maryland real estate report the average two-bedroom rental here is twenty three hundred forty dollars which is almost double the national average. Here's a four-bedroom, three-bath, 2,228-square-foot house.
It's nice. It's a cute little place.
It's built in not even little. It's a decent place.
It's a good-sized house. It's classified as a bungalow, so it's that style.
So it looks smaller than it is. It was built in 1928 and very nicely updated.
It's pretty damn cool. Wow.
It is $950,000 though. My God.
Which is a bit pricey. No land, a little tiny lot.
Nothing. Just this little house.
It's got to have a finished basement, right? That's got to be where the footage comes from. Maybe.
Possibly, yeah. I don't remember.
It was hard to tell. If they don't show...
If it's a finished basement, sometimes it's hard to tell if it's in the rest of the house or where it is. Here is a six-bedroom, six-bath, T-ball for each and every B-hole here.
5,890 square feet. This is the middle house.
0.35 acres. This house looks like it's 150 years old, but it was built in 2003.
Oh, wow. It's an old Victorian.
It looks like a big old Victorian house. It's got like that round turret looking thing there and all that kind of shit.
It's very cool, but you are like, hey, what the fuck? This is old, but it's not. I don't understand it.
It's $3,190,000. Okay.
Man, why? Imagine being able to own that. It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous. And then the next house is even crazier.
Six-bedroom, 11-bath. T-bowl for all your b-holes and your brothers and sisters.
you can invite your parents over to take a dump. Everybody.

They ran out of people to put bedrooms in.

They're just like, we've got so much more room.

Just make more bathrooms.

We've got a lot of plumbing.

We have extra pipes. Let's just.

What's that idea?

It's 11,522 square feet on 1.93 acres.

It's like.

It's amazing.

It's on the river.

It has these beautiful views. It looks like a resort destination romantic comedy movie wedding venue.
That's what it looks like. It's ridiculous.
Is it $11 million? It looks like a resort. $23,500,000.
$23 million. $23 million.
I don't know what that is.

A sultan lives there.

Somebody who goes to D.C. sometimes but lives in the United Arab Emirates or something.

That's ridiculous.

This isn't in Beverly Hills or in Greenwich or something like that.

This is Bethesda, Maryland, which we thought we heard of, but we weren't sure. I'm not even sure why or what this is.
Things to do here. I'm going to give you two completely opposite things as far as culture goes.
$23 million. That's what there is to do here.
That's for these. That's the first thing to do is for the $23 million house set here.
Listen to this shit. It's called Bethesda Row Arts Festival.
Here's the description. I'm going to notice if you notice.
I'm going to see if you notice a certain word they like to use here. Every September, over 30,000 affluent art enthusiasts from the Washington, D.C.
metro area and its surrounding suburbs converge upon the Bethesda Row Arts Festival. The three-mile radius surrounding the festival boasts an average household income of $196,910, positioning the event as one of the nation's most affluent and educated art marketplaces.
Hey, you broke dummies. Stay away.
Yep. Would you like to come and stare at rich people, do shit that rich people do that you can't afford to do? Maybe they can tell you about their extra bathrooms.
What do you say? Come through and get bullied without a single word. They just look at you and go, ugh.
So that's one end of it. Yeah.
Affluent. They love the word affluent in there.
Yeah. Then the other end of it yeah affluent they love the word affluent in there yeah then the other end of it is porky the little eater what is this okay that is i'll show you a picture that is this okay there's a little six foot high brick house with a pig with its mouth open looks like a glory hole that looks like a pig glory hole.
It looks like you fucked that pig's face. You fuck its face and you're like, okay.
It says Cabin John Regional Park is a peaceful picnic spot in Montgomery County that features one very unusual resident, an environmentally conscious talking pig. Oh boy.
He has been entreating visitors to his chatty maw with refuse since the park opened in 1966. The push of a button located near his smiling face.
It's not smiling. He's making an o-hole for a dick.
There's not a person. This is just a...
It's like a computerized... It's a pig.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It talks if you press the button. Okay.
It's all the prodding he needs to start his pitch. After a couple of snorts and grunts, the low voice of one-time park caretaker Ted Gurney issues the following cheery message.
Hi, kids. I'm Porky the little eater, and I sure like to eat.
You can feed me paper and cardboard, soft drink cans, but never feed me bottles or broken glass. Glass gives me a stomach ache.
He's a recycle bin. He's a recycle bin that doesn't do glass he's like yeah throw that in the trash it's got a vacuum powered mouth you know people have stuck their dick in here how many people have stuck their dick in this big mouth how many I'd love to know it's remarkable you gotta go there man there's this park with this you just stick your dick in there buddy i'll tell you that vacuum pig mouth it will suck you into the next farm boy and it's free oh my god that is funny porky wasn't the first talking trash receptacle in montgomery county that honor was held by billy the litter goat who was that who in 1965 was at Wheaton Regional Park.
But Porky is the only one that remains. Okay, so they got rid of the Litter Goat.
The Litter Goat sounds like much more practical, and it seems right, because goats will fucking eat anything. Pigs don't eat bottles.
They don't eat paper, right? No, I guess that's why glass gives you a stomachache. Yeah, they'll eat the clothes of a dead person, I think, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And a dead person. And a dead person.
They'll eat the clothes on the person. Holy shit, that is crazy.
So crime rate here, what we're interested in. Crime rate, property crime is actually less than the national average by about a third under the national average.
And uh violent crime murder rape robbery and of course assault is about half the national average so okay pretty goddamn safe in this town it's a it's super wealthy i mean if you happens when you have money if yeah if you're riding down the street and anything less than a 90 000 car there's probably people everyone's gonna notice you and you'll be caught for murder i think so what's this riffraff doing here what are you doing staring at the art installment don't do that you're not up to that so that said let's talk about holy shit some murder here this is wow okay let's just start by talking about this guy here all right this is no other way to do this Hadden, H-A-D-D-E-N is his first name, Hadden Irving Clark. He is

born in 1951, and he's from Troy, New York originally. That's where he's born.
But he's going to move all over the place, just constantly moving as a child. His parents are always going to – his dad's always going to a different job, trying to make more money.
Troy is a shithole. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anything way up, anything in upstate New York there is a dump. So bad.
These are burnt out industrial towns that still have SUNY colleges. Now they're just little college towns now.
It's a little greeny town, yeah. Now his parents are married and together his whole life, which normally you'd go, okay, well that's good.
It'll be a stable upbringing. But this is not a stable upbringing.
And judging by the actions of Haddon and his brother, something went wrong in this house, for sure. Like, this is not an okay household here.
They move all the time, at least, like, sometimes twice a year. Oh, really? And not just to a different house, to a different city.
Really? really yeah like move to a different place completely a couple times a year which is different like i moved a lot in work well no not instability he his dad his dad's a chemist and apparently a like top tier gun for hire chemist back then where people were always trying to hire him away and so he was always moving jobs to get more money his dad's name is also hadden um they called him hadden junior this hadden young hadn't even though they uh his dad doesn't have a middle name but he does but they still call him junior all the time now his dad was on the team that invented and was one of the heads of the team that invented saran wrap. Yeah.
His dad invented plastic wrap. Wow.
Every time you save something and put it in your fridge, this guy's dad had something to do with this shit. Fascinating.
So that's very interesting. When you lost the lid to the Cool Whip Bowl and you're just like plastic wrap, this guy did it.
He did it. How many picnics has this man saved the food of? How much food has he saved? Yeah.
When the Cool Whip Bowl's lid got melted in the dishwasher. What are you going to do? He fixed it.
When it's twisted now. Now it's twisted.
Now it's forped. It doesn't fit.
It doesn't fit. It won't go down on this side.
Over here it pops up if I push down over here. Oh, what's that smell? He'll take it.
He's like, hold on. You'll have to use saran wrap forever on this.
Also helped invent fire-retardant carpeting as well. Well, I guess I didn't even realize that exists.
It's all carpeting now. Every carpeting is fire-retardant, whereas it used to be— It's got to have something, right? Yeah, it used to be just the most flammable thing in your house.

Just boom, it burst into flames.

It's cotton.

It's just yarn beneath your feet.

Or worse, by then they were using synthetic shit, so it would burn even better.

Yeah, they were using nylon and shit like that.

Jesus.

Yeah, that's a big deal.

His father had an MBA and a PhD in chemistry and...

Smart son of a bitch.

Used it.

Very smart. But he's always wanting more money, more status, So that's why they move all the time, different jobs.
His mom's a homemaker. She takes care of the kids at home.
There's four kids. So three boys and a girl.
And mom, her name is Flavia. Flavia? F-L-A-V-I-A.
Flavia? Flavia, yeah. Now, she sounds like she's ethnic.
Like ethnic like ooh maybe his mom's like Spanish or something absolutely not she is as blue blood her lineage goes back to the actual Mayflower that's how blue blood they are that's wild shit and she bragged about that she was direct descendant from heroes of the Revolutionary War. Now, Haddon's grandfather on his father's side served as the elected mayor of White Plains, New York as well.
Really? Which is a good-sized city, White Plains, just north of the Bronx. It's a decent-sized city right outside New York City.
I just stayed there. It's beautiful.
It's very nice in that area. It's it's an expensive area a little pricey are crazy yeah a little pricey in that area to do anything now both of the parents hadn't seen your and flavia are super nasty alcoholics by the way oh that's a problem and not alcoholics to the point where anyone outside of The house notices it.
he goes to work he does his work very well comes home she goes to her society events does all of her things and ties it on when they get home then they lock the door drink like fish and fight with each other in front of the kids oh no so yeah that's and the kids are horrified by. Sure.
Now, here's the family, the way the kids go.

Brad is the oldest.

Bradfield is his name.

That's the first son.

Bradfield.

Bradfield goes by Brad.

He's a year older than Haddon, born in 1950.

Then Jeff, with a G, is he's born in 1955, another brother.

And then the last child is Allison, finally got a girl. She's born in 1959.
Okay. So they had Brad.
He was a boy. Terrific.
They wanted Haddon to be a girl, especially mom. Flavio really, really wanted Haddon to be a girl and was super pissed that he wasn't a girl.
And she has to do this again. And then probably strike three was really bad.
Really? But she will not accept that he's not a girl, which is weird. We'll talk about this.
Really? Now, Allison, things are so fucked up in this house. Allison will, as a teenager, will run away from the house, never talk to her family again.
She just... Done.
For a teenager to leave and never fucking come back, there's bad shit going on there. For sure.
She later on, years later, said, quote, I never had a family. Oh, wow.
That's her quote. This house is a mess, and it has to be.
A little bit about Haddon and his strange behavior as a child. He's got very strange behavior.
He was late to walk, late to talk also. Oh, late bloomer.
Late bloomer. And everything.
And all sorts of shit here. Now, when he was very young, he rammed his brother with a bike.
And we'll talk about that and give you a little more detail on that. Oh, totally on purpose.
I mean, his brother's head bounced off the sidewalk, Jeffrey bleeding profusely and everything like that. His mother blames his strange behavior on the doctor using the forceps wrong when he was a baby and being born.
And fucking fucked up his brain. Squeezed his brain, stupid.
That's what she said. So, yeah, she would speculate that that had to be a brain injury from birth.
She would say it was a difficult delivery and the doctor had to use forceps to get him out, and she even claimed also that this had to have resulted in an injury and left a long-lasting impact and fucked up his judgment basically. His mother brought him to Yale University's Child study center at age four.
These are wealthy people with education and they, we're going to get to the bottom of this and see if we can't fix it. Yeah.
The smartest people on the planet. Well, the smartest people on the planet completely misdiagnosed him as, uh, as having cerebral palsy, which he absolutely does not have,

and perhaps a mild brain damage.

Which he probably has. Which he probably does have, but definitely doesn't have cerebral palsy.

So that was a wasted trip to Yale there.

Wasted trip to New Haven that day.

They gave scholarships to the wrong kids.

Jesus.

Kids doesn't have palsy. Look at them for Christ.
What are you talking about? Walking all over the place. Yeah, Jesus.
So the Clark family moves around Connecticut, New Jersey, and all over the place. It's around the Northeast where all this stuff is going on here.
Rarely staying at a place for more than a year, sometimes moving twice in in a year and the parents they have a lot of money uh obviously but they have to move around and do all that kind of thing and if you know if you've done that as a kid it's it's hard it's hell yeah i did that a lot i went to a lot of different schools and moved across the country and back and it's really hard to get keep your footing and yeah you know feel like you're have any planted roots yeah yeah when you have money like that too like you're staying in nicer and those kids are so fucking mean oh yeah cruel you know i mean they're openly and you're not part of it yeah you're not your parents don't go to the country club with their parents for the last 20 years and all that kind of shit so are they as alcoholics are they drinking like really good you know i mean i don't know exactly i assume it's why would they drink rot gut if they yeah they probably probably drinking she's probably drinking good wine he's drinking like a single malt i think they're some sort of glenn livid or something i don't know. Your routine includes arming your SimpliSafe home security system.
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Now back to the show. So it's tough, though.
Basically, he never had a solid friendship group. You have to constantly adjust to new surroundings, which will make you either quiet or will make you a comedian like me.
So that's what happened there. Both ways, it's not good.
Well, I guess I figured out if I'm funny that people will like me and I'll make friends easier. It's a lot easier to do.
So, yeah, so they had to do that. A lot of moves, a lot of shipping around and everything like that.
So you have to figure it out. Figure it out and figure out how to do it.
And he's not good at this stuff stuff and part of it is he doesn't really have a good base of him like a good base of knowing who he is at home yeah at home he he's teased at school and at home basically he's picked on everywhere mainly by his parents really well his father had a nickname for him oh no that he called him all the time in front of him and just general. It was, quote, the retard.
What? So, where's the retard, he would say. And that meant Haddon.
Yep. And he would say, hey, retard, come here.
I get that this isn't nice, but this is what he would call his fucking son that's so fucked up for me yeah this is when he's like five six meaning like everybody in the house recognizes him as the that's it yeah they all knew that was his nickname we call we call him sunny we call him spanky and that's the retard like that's crazy princess allison and the retard that's so fucked that's so fucking mean man and terrible it's his father it's his own father yeah so you're not gonna have him over yeah it's like a friend coming over the house and dad comes home and goes where's the retard yeah and they go they're talking about me or he's in his room with his friend. The friend's going to know that your nickname is awful at all.
And then what's going to happen at school? Right. Yeah.
Later on, while talking to a psychiatrist, this is horrifying, when he's an adult talking to a psychiatrist, he said that when he was growing up, before he knew what your official name was like on a birth certificate or something he thought that retard was part of his name. He thought that was he thought he was Haddon Retard Irving Clark.
Like he thought that was his name. Like the Bill Cosby joke in the old day.
I thought my name was Jesus Christ. That's exactly what it is.
God damn it. God damn it.

Jesus Christ.

Get in the.

Yeah.

Wow.

So that's what he thought.

He actually thought that.

That's fucked up.

Now his mother gave him a different nickname for a completely different reason.

Okay.

His mother upset that he was not a girl.

The accident.

No,

no,

no upset that he wasn't a girl and not having a girl until he's eight years old would dress him up in girls clothes and call him kristin no you can't do that so like this kid has no idea who he is essentially um he's a retarded girl yeah that's that's in his mind he has no idea his parents making him be, Jesus. So he thinks his name is Haddon Retard Kristen Irving Clark.
That's a lot of names. Oh, Jesus.
And the parents, while they're doing this, while they're being horrible to him, abusive as shit, they're also, like I said, alcoholics who fight not only verbally but physically in front of the children as well. Nice.
So this is a mess, a goddamn mess. One classmate said that he remembered both Bradfield and Haddon, the brothers, were both mean and quick-tempered, and said that Haddon had a learning problem and a speech impediment, and he attended a special school as well.
Yeah. So he went to a special school from the time he was 6 to 15 so that's why his dad did this to him yes and then obviously he would you know he would think that of himself anyway and then rather than the dad going no no no it's just you know some people learn at different paces buddy he'll be fine his dad goes hey retard which is not you know gonna help this kid at all and he's and he's the only one of the kids that's at this special school yeah and he's he's clearly slower than everybody else at learning and just give him some fucking time you guys and the kids in the neighborhood are going to pick on him for that obviously forever so they're brutal yeah one of this classmate said hadden would get angry and go into a corner and pout all the time the kids didn't want to play with him That's how he was.
Another childhood friend of his said that he had a speech impediment and a quick temper and said that sometimes he couldn't control himself. If something didn't go his way, he'd get very upset.
All the kids would walk away and wait for him to calm down. He'd have a tantrum, and they all knew to just leave him alone, basically.
So the next-door neighbor here this is the next door neighbor for a while until the Clark family moved to Rhode Island in 1962, called Haddon a meek child, mischievous at times, but I don't remember him as a problem child. No, because he's just beaten down.
He's the one that everybody's beaten up on. He's not a problem child at that point.
that point well all this is going on his parents are active in all this outside activities they're active in the boy scout troops they go to pta meetings they're in the church group they are members of civic organizations all this nice stuff is going on on the surface they look like the perfect family and then you know what goes on behind closed doors it's messed up um so the only thing that the father did with hadden that didn't involve insulting him or beating him up was they took him hunting so he spent that was the quality time they spent together was hunting firearms let's yeah let's teach this kid but that could go either. That could be something that he could be interested in and whatever.

Or you could just be teaching an angry person how to be violent.

That's the other thing.

You're teaching him how to murder.

You never know.

Or it could be good for him.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't understand.

I don't know.

People do it.

I don't understand the bonding of that experience.

That's fucking crazy.

That's because neither of us had that with our fathers too. So we don't know didn't know your dad my dad has never been a hunter yeah he's never hunted anything i get it if that's your survival thing if you're gonna go out and eat all that that's great good for you yeah yeah yeah i don't care i don't give i'm not judging anybody i don't give a shit i don't know don't kill anything endangered please that'd be nice trying to kill like any kid out and be like white rhinos or anything yeah take this gun child yeah yeah it seems odd but that's bizarre it depends on where you are too because some people like live in the woods and they yeah i don't know so james you got to tame the the population it's out of control they're gonna shit everywhere that's the problem it's the shitting there's gonna be too much poop on the forest floor here We've got to clean this up.
That's the problem. It's the shitting.

There's going to be too much poop on the forest floor here.

We've got to clean this up.

Can't even hike.

Okay.

So the elder Haddon was a big hunter, and he taught Junior here how to trap animals.

So Haddon here, the young Haddon, Junior, rather than keep just doing this on hunting trips, he would trap all sorts of shit in the backyard. See, this kid isn't right in the head to be teaching this stuff.
So he would trap every little furry animal he could find, fucking rabbits and possums and squirrels and raccoons and anything here. So, yeah, he would do this.
He would torture them until they died. Every once in a while he would let one live for some reason though, which nobody ever understood here.
Yeah. One of them that he let live was a raccoon that he caught and he kept it as a pet.
That's actually kind of cool. It's funny as shit.
He trained it. He trained it.
I've seen this. This is amazing.
He would ride his bicycle around with the raccoon clinging to his head and neck. What? Yeah, just hanging off his head and neck.
It would hold on to him. It would hold on to him, yeah.
Amazing. And so the kids thought it was like basically a live-action Davy Crockett hat because back then that was a popular thing, the coon-skin cat.
So he had a real one. He also did bad things with these animals, like dissecting them, which is weird, unless you're in science class.
And if kids picked on him, he would catch their pets and decapitate them. No! Yes, that's how he would get them back.
What pets was he catching cats dogs oh yeah you can catch dogs fuck yeah catch a little dog and kill it if you want to i'm sure if you're a sick fuck so obviously he's got mental problems this is not normal um he's in and out of psych wards and special treatment facilities as a child as well yeah and the parents this is a lot of money that's going out they paying for this. They're not putting them in some county facility in some padded room.
They're sending them to some fancy psychiatrist and shit like that. But his dad always had the money for it, so that wasn't a big deal here.
His brother now Brad issues as well. Brad began doing drugs when he was about 10 years old and was very aggressive.
At one instance, he got a hold of a gun and used it to shoot out the windows of the next door neighbor's vehicle. And they said, why did you do that? Why were you mad? And he said, I wasn't mad.
Just did it, quote, for the heck of it. I wanted to see the windows break.
Just felt like window shatter would be fun. Shot at his neighbor's car.
Wow. You find a car in the woods abandoned you do that that's how you do that every town has a car in the woods abandoned somewhere that you can shoot up and really there's there's you got things in the house your mom made beans or something take the cans take something now brad hadn't at one point told his mother that his brother brad had taken up in a treehouse and sexually assaulted him.
Oh, shit. His brother denied it and his mother just ignored it and acted like it didn't happen.
Oh, boy. So Brad was doing things to his brother here.
Yeah. Haddon fails two grades in elementary school.
His intelligence later on is found to be average to low average, IQ-wise and shit like that. Haddon's brother Jeff, that's the younger brother, about four years younger, he talked about Haddon having a mean streak, and they said he didn't even know where it came from, and oftentimes Jeff was the target of the meanness, because people would pick on him, he can't get them back, but he can get his little brother and make him hurt.
So he said something always seemed off about Haddon here. He said, quote, Haddon was always strange.
He was always different. As a child, he'd ignore people when they asked him a question sometimes or run away.
It's an odd reaction to that. How was school today? Okay, I guess never mind.
I don't understand this. I'm running.
It wasn't that he was being rude. The concept of rude wasn't there for him.
It's like someone who doesn't taste sweet. If you give them a plate of strawberries, they're not going to taste them.
Rude didn't occur to him. Never even thought about it.
He just never thought about it. As he got older, a lot of his emotional development didn't move beyond being 8 or 10, which is true.
We'll find out later. As a kid, he did a lot of impulsive things, but it didn't matter.
As he got older, it began to matter. This is all a quote from Jeff.
It continues. There were a lot of times when I got hurt from something stupid he did.
I have the scars. One time we were riding our bikes, and we were trying to learn to ride one-handed, and I told him not to ride too close to me, but he did.
And when we were just learning, so we didn't have that much control. He swerved in front of me and I fell and hit my head.
Hadn't ran home. By the way, hit his head, split his head open, bleeding all over the sidewalk, unable to move.
Hadn't ran home. And when he saw my parents, he said, don don't worry the bike's all right that's what he said so his concept of everything is way skewed and off he doesn't doesn't get shit so he used to say things like if you hit my truck uh i'll kill you like when you go buy it yeah i'm the the you'll heal the truck won't is what they would say so they probably said that to him and that's why he probably said don't worry the bike's okay yeah i remember having my dad at one point having two cars and they were one was nicer than the other yeah and he's one was he said that's death and this one is mega death don't hit that one as we were playing basketball so all my friends knew don't hit the car with the ball or james's father will kill us so it was like everyone was terrified of him that was dismemberment he said that in front of my friends when i was like 12 they were all like oh shit don't hit the cars goddamn so yeah you get that in your head um but i said he just didn't know didn have the care.
The one place, there's one place in the world where Haddon feels comfortable and safe. And that is at his grandparents' house.
Yes. Somehow his grandparents here, I don't know, they're decent people even though they've raised either one of these people.
His parents are monsters. They raised somebody that's an alcoholic.
Something. So this was in Cape Cod his parents lived.
Oh, okay. Very nice.
So he'd go there. His grandparents were always there.
He visited them every summer. He'd come.
He would fish. Sounds like a fucking dream.
I'd love to do that. Down the Cape every summer? Going to the Cape every summer? Damn it.
He's like Tom Hanks in Splash, this fucking guy. I'm jealous.
It's incredible. He would fish and do all the nature stuff.
Yeah. He said these were the happiest days of his life.
And Jeff said the days we spent there were the most wonderful time of Haddon's life. They were for all of us.
Yeah. it would be very hard to make the cape an awful memory.
But I mean, his grandparents treat them great, and it's just like it's a totally different life for them. Totally different life.
So that's nice. Now, as a teenager, he is discovered to enjoy wearing adult women's clothing sometimes.
Now, he is much like Ed Wood. Ed Wood is a filmmaker.
I don't know if everybody's heard of Ed Wood, but Ed Wood is known as the worst director of all time. He made Plan 9 from Outer Space, which is considered the one of the worst movies that's ever been made back in that era.
Ed Wood, I know a lot about him because he's from Poughkeepsie, actually. He worked at the Bardabon Theater when he was a kid and shit.
But there's a good movie, the Tim Burton movie with Johnny Depp, as Ed Wood do. It's very good.
But I've read books and stuff about Ed Wood, and Ed Wood liked to wear women's clothing. He was an extremely straight guy.
He was a World War II veteran, and he was a paratrooper, for Christ's sake. I mean, fucking big balls on this guy.
Good man, yeah. And he said that he was never scared of being killed.
He was only scared of being injured and having the medics find his bra and underwear. Under the fucking uniform? Under the uniform, yeah.
He said that's all he was scared of was that. That's what was terrifying him about being in the Army.
What a fascinating – I guess that makes all the – he's probably not the only one that's ever done that. No, no, no, absolutely not.
This is a big thing like this. There's a lot of – apparently a lot of men who like – that are like straight and that are not – they're not even like – there's no transness or there's no – they just like wearing women's clothes.
They like the feeling of bloomers. I don't know.
So I don't know what that is. And he once told his mother, I like my lady's clothing.
Don't try and change me. Okay.
He hadn't said that to his mom when he was like 12. Don't try to change me.
He like burst into a Lady Gaga song after that. And they were like, I guess just let him wear the bra.
Yeah. Just let him wear it.
So weeks after he got caught doing that, he was involved in a peeping Tom incident that resulted in police intervention, which isn't great. That's heavy.
Apparently, his father would try to change him in his saying that he said, I'm going to change this boy by beating this out of him with a belt. Oh boy.
He would get Haddon when he would get, when he would come out of the bathtub naked, his father would rush in the room with a belt and start beating the shit out of him when he was like wet and drying off. Oh God, Jesus.
Yeah. Um, it's wild.
So at 15, he was sent to a conventional school away from the special school, regular high school out of the special education school and immediately fell behind again and couldn't keep up. And, you know, it was a hard time.
OK, now 1964, age 14. This is when he claims to have murdered his first victim.
We don't know anything about this because it's very vague, but he said he murdered his first victim who was a boy, a child, and he says his father helped cover it up. His father knew.
Which kind of would make sense because his father wouldn't want that being public for himself. But we don't know the details about that or anything about that.
That's just something he mentions later. But when he was 16, a woman hired him to work in her yard, to yard work, found him in her house.
He's supposed to be out in the yard. Instead, he's in the house wearing her nightgown yep god um yeah that'll get you fired from yard work pretty quick yeah uh that is interesting a year later his mom this was before way well after the incidents of catching him wearing quote catching him wearing women's clothing but his parents came across him wearing a nightgown and standing in front of a mirror yeah so um his mother mentioned these incidents to the therapist he was seeing because this is the thing he's in therapy this entire time this isn't like oh you know these parents don't know what to do and they just stick him in a room he's in therapy he goes to see doctors all of this shited.
Documented. So the therapists recommend that she not confront him and just leave him alone about it.
Okay. And you know there's that.
Yeah. The doctor knows, too, that it's not a trigger.
It's not a big deal. It doesn't matter.
Exactly. Just leave him alone.
I mean, there's many serial killers or people that do bad things that do that. Yeah.
There's probably a thousand that didn't. Oh, more than that.
Yeah, absolutely. I drink Pepsi.
I'll bet they drank that, too. Well, they always say, this many drug addicts started out by smoking this or smoking pot or drinking alcohol.
I bet a hundred out of a hundred started out by drinking milk like where where where do we stop going back and figuring it out they're probably breast they

were either breastfed or drank fucking uh formula it's these fucking gerber people those are the people you blame like who are you gonna blame gerber big gerber so 1972 he graduates from high school at 21 years old.

Oh, that's embarrassing.

Who's coming to the bar afterwards just oh just me okay never mind just me and the mill workers okay that sucks he's a big guy too he's six two he's not like a no like he sounds like a little squirrely guy but he's not he's a big guy he's a Not like a big heavy guy. He's a big guy, too.
He's 6'2". He's not like a...
He sounds like a little squirrely guy, but he's not. He's a big guy.
He's a man. Not like a big, heavy guy.
He's kind of lanky, but he's 6'2". He's a big guy.
So he likes cooking. That's what he likes.
Hell yeah. So his family was absolutely fucking thrilled to find out he had an interest.
They're like, you're interested in something? Apart clothing or trapping and killing animals great a normal thing that's actually a career fucking terrific they don't care if it's oh we want you to be a chemist or go to yale a job is great whatever something that you can have an open conversation about at the church cookout i'm fine that's it and he wants to be a cook which is that is also a profession where weird behavior things like that completely ignored if you can keep up during rush no one cares what you do give a fuck what underwear you're wearing yeah you can keep all those steak temps straight while keeping up during a rush at from six to seven i don't give a shit if you go out in the fucking parking lot

rip kittens heads off and drink their bloods from their body like a mug doesn't matter only wearing ruffled bloomers no one cares nobody cares yeah and that is one of the biggest things in the in the in the like industry of restaurants is yeah no one cares what the fuck you do if you can keep up in the kitchen. So he ends up there.

They want to do everything they can to help him do this.

So they use all of their resources and connections and everything else to get him a spot at the Culinary Institute of America.

CIA up the street from my house there in High Park, New York.

Now, this is, by the way, the exact same time anthony bourdain was here oh this is the really weird he has like i wish anthony bourdain was alive for a lot of reasons but i really want to know if he knew this guy because he not only went to culinary school at the same school at the same time or within a year but they also both worked in province town and restaurants there was a big like a pipeline between the culinary institute and all of their while they were working there like summers while they were going to school and also like when they graduated a lot of them worked in province town really which is off cape cod it's a big kind of a big gay place. Yeah.
It's the end tip. It's beautiful.
It's great. It's a fucking party.
It's a huge party. So that, that's all tons of restaurants.
And that was a place that had big kitchens that would hire culinary Institute people. It was a good place to get your feet wet.
And Anthony Bourdain worked there for years, for a couple of years when he first started. So, so did this guy.
So they must've known each other because all these, all of the cooks would all end up with the same bars after shifts because they all get off at the

same time so it's really interesting so they get him into cia which is you know on a beautiful

place a beautiful school and everything like that and not only is he a decent cook he's fucking

amazing at ice sculptures amazing incredible like really good he's got a portion of his brain that certainly works. It's so weird.
Yeah, he's got definite things he's skilled at. Like, so good they were saying, holy shit, you're going to do really well because these fancy parties, they all have ice sculptures.
Right. If you can do that, you charge a fortune for those.
You can bring the ice sculpture and then make a seven course hors d'oeuvres and fucking dinner thing. You can make kinds of cash.
Yeah. Crush that shit.
So apparently he was very skilled with a knife and they said he could carve anything out of a block of ice. Just anything he wanted.
Graduates from the Culinary Institute of America in the spring of 1974. Gets lucky he graduated because he got in trouble a couple times.

Number one for urinating into vats of mashed potatoes.

In retaliation against slights that he perceived against him.

Because the students cook, the way the CIA works is students cook for the other students. So you're always either cooking for the other students or eating what the other students have cooked so he was mad at the other students so he pissed in the potatoes he made pissy potatoes that's crazy because it's like that'll thin them out tremendously this is my specialty.
Pissy parsley potatoes. You're going to love them.
You can taste that. That's piss and parsley.
Those are asparagus potatoes. Oh, you can smell that.
I don't even see any asparagus. That's crazy.
Oh, it's in there. Don't worry.
So after graduation, he can't keep a job, though, for more than a few months. Because he he is to show up every day and do your job and leave right you have to have some form of stability at least at work um he was hired by a few really nice restaurants too because back then you know if you were a cia graduate anybody would hire you in their kitchen you know what i mean there wasn't a of, it's not like now where there's so many chefs and cooks and people.

Back then cooking was not a glamorous job.

It wasn't a cool job.

It wasn't anything like that at all.

So he would always get fired though.

And man,

people weren't going to deal with this shit.

Basically the way these employers put it is he tried to act like he did with his family with them, and they weren't putting up with this shit, basically. Here you show up, you do your job, you go home, shut the fuck up.
Don't piss on the potatoes. Yeah, they weren't going to deal with this bullshit.
He tried to treat his supervisor and coworkers like he treated his family, and they would fire him, basically. So much so that from 74 to about 1981, he held 14 different jobs.
God damn. That's a lot.
He got fired for doing weird shit like chugging beef blood in the kitchen at one point. Why? Just chugging it.
So they were like, okay, he's too weird. You're fired.
To scare people or something? What is that? I don't know if it's to keep them away. His grandparents, who he loves and who have always taken care of him, his grandfather dies in 1975.
Fuck. And his grandfather was apparently taking care of his grandmother, who was in poor health.
So then his grandmother ends up going to a nursing home after that. So that whole thing is gone.
His whole, his refuge of Cape Cod and his grandparents that he could still go to at any point is now over with. So that's tough.
He gets a job on a cruise ship as a chef. Oh, no.
The peak of culinary importance. Cruise ship cuisine.
Making buffets for old people at that point in time. That's what that was.
People in wheelchairs. Yeah, making food that is friendly to dentures.
Denture-friendly fare. Very soft fare.
Yep, soft, mushy shit. This is on the SS Norway.
And that was, after a while, that's all he could do was be a chef on a cruise ship because restaurants wouldn't hire him anymore, essentially. He would recall later that most of the other cooks were Korean, and they didn't speak any English.
So he was just talking to people in English, and they would talk to him in Korean. But the weird part is this worked out well for him because they didn't think he was weird because they didn't know what the fuck he was saying or doing.
So they thought he was fine. He didn't know what they were saying.
Everybody got along because they couldn't talk. Yeah.
He stayed in this for almost a year. This is the longest he's ever had a job at once.
After that, he ends up taking jobs at a couple different Long Island banquet halls. And he actually has a three-week assignment at the 1980 Olympic Games in Lake Placid as well.
Awesome. I don't know if those athletes.
Maybe that was the thing that propelled our hockey team over Russia was urine potatoes. That's what did it.
The power of this man's urine propelled them to the biggest upset in Olympic history. The potatoes.
These potatoes. So his mother and his father are going to divorce in the early 80s.

They're going to get separated.

Yeah.

His father goes on to marry a much younger woman, obviously, because he's got money.

He's got saran wrap money.

He's got saran wrap.

He wraps her in saran wrap to keep her fresh.

Oh, wow.

So then his father completely ignored the kids after that, even though they're all adults.

It was like, oh, well now I got, I'm banging this young lady now.

I'm busy.

So Haddon, by 1982, he's between jobs.

He's having a hard time.

He ends up moving in with his mother, who's living by herself at the time.

And she wanted to help him get his shit together and told him, listen, you can live here.

No rent.

All you need to do is do a few chores here or there. But after a while, they started to argue and things kind of got out of control.
At one point, an argument escalates to the point where Haddon beats his mother up so bad she calls the cops. So this resulted in him being brought up on assault charges, but then it was dismissed.
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But she didn't want to press charges on him. That's why.
She just didn't. But she did realize that they couldn't live together any longer.
So she felt sorry for him. She would let him sleep in a shed on the property if he had nowhere else to go.
He was allowed to sleep in the shed. Soon, he have to i have to get my life together here by the way this is crazy i'm sleeping in a fucking shed i have no job you know and he's a skilled chef and stuff i mean he's literally a culinary institute graduate he knows how to do things but he can't keep it together long enough he says i know what i'll do here um he ends up uh um joining the navy that's his fucking solution to this now a couple of things back in the 70s when he graduated from culinary institute his first few jobs were in provincetown just like anthony bourdain was there he says later on that while in provincet we'll have more details later, he said he killed several women in the sand dunes and buried them in the sand dunes.
Really? Yes. He said he cut, wow, he, Jesus Christ, he cut this one woman up because she bit him.
Okay. So he killed her.
I guess he tried to rape the first woman after he murdered her, but it didn't work. He couldn't do it.
Okay. So he tried to be a necrophiliac and couldn't do it here.
Another woman here, he claims that, and we'll get more details later, he claimed he murdered her, buried her nude under the sand dune, first removing her hands and wrists, and then cutting her fingers off and cutting them at the knuckles and using the pieces of finger as bait for surf fishing. Golly.
That is insane. Yeah.
That's fucking wild. So he joins...
Did you say if he he caught anything? I never heard if he caught anything. I was curious, too.
I got the biggest sailfish, boy. It's beautiful.
Love to know if that worked. No, it didn't work.
So he joins the Navy, and he's a below-deck cook. He's got cooking skills.
That's what they're going to have him do. He works on a nuclear aircraft at the time called the USS Carl Vinson.
Yeah, the aircraft carrier. That's a big one.
It's a big one, yeah. He's one of the cooks.
He was assigned as a cook, and his duties were basically the same as the cruise ship. He's on a ship, and he's putting shit out there.
So he's going to try. He's going to try to make it go, but after a while, he, of course, gets pissy with everything.
He doesn't like being bossed around. He doesn't like the commanding officers telling him what to do, which is the whole point of the military.
Like, if you don't like people telling you what to do, the military is not for you. You've got to be able to deal with that shit.
You've got to take orders, man. He had some run-ins here after one of a little problem with some fellow sailors.
Some of the fellow naval people stuffed him in a meat locker for over three hours. Made him stay in there.
That is pretty interesting here. He also got transferred a couple times.
He was sent to a different ship, the USS Theodore Roosevelt, and things didn't get better there.

At one point, people who were mad at him waited for his shift to end,

then jumped him, and his head was viciously smashed against the deck of the ship

multiple times.

The interaction was just because they didn't like him?

Well, they asked, what the hell happened here, Haddon? and he said, quote, they were jealous of my cooking skills. No, not that.
So he beat him nearly to death because he cooked well. Yeah.
That's pretty ridiculous. Yeah.
It's more likely it's just he's a weird guy, and he does weird things, and he doesn't know how to fucking talk to people. He'll also later say they found out that he wore women's underwear and they didn't like that about him to begin with.
He was sent on. He was his stint on Iwo Jima was pretty brief as well.
He goes there. He had apparently a break with reality at some point.
Lost his mind. I mean, he's had a break for a while.

And was sent to a psychiatric hospital for an evaluation and was deemed unfit for duty.

Right.

Yeah.

Because he said something crazy and they were like, we can't do this.

So they beat him half to death.

That makes sense.

So Jeff, his brother, said that a massive head injury from this beating is kind of what caused, quote, his danger potential to become unleashed.

This head injury fucked him up.

He said this about his brother.

Something in this beating changed him.

Probably it was a combination of the actual beating of his head and some emotional stuff that happened afterwards.

Instead of just being carelessly dangerous, he was then somehow able to justify his acts of violence. Really? Yes, this is real weird.
So June of 85, he's discharged from the Navy, diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. Oh.
Yeah, and given a medical discharge. Yeah.
Heath told them he thought he had a split personality. He said he doesn't like hurting people, but he sometimes does things that he wasn't aware that he did.
Whoa. He also said he heard voices tell him he couldn't trust anyone.
That's a problem. And as a result, he only talked to himself.
Oh, okay. Whoa.
He'd see things that weren't there. he'd hallucinate um at times his speech would wander off into weird shit he would say things that don't make any sense um it's really weird uh he was given a 30 disability status at the time which gave him a small pension he's he's he can't hold a.
He's a wacky son of a bitch. So he's having a lot of this little bit of money helps him, obviously.
So he gets home, gets discharged, and he has nowhere really to go. So lucky for him, his brother Jeff is in the middle of a divorce.
So he moves into Jeff's basement. This is on Sudley Spring Road in Silver Spring, Maryland.
He's not, by the way, Haddon will not take the medicine they prescribed him for his paranoid schizophrenia. He's not doing that at all.
He just doesn't give a shit and won't do it. So Jeff here, he's got other problems as well.
Jeff earned a degree in microbiology at Ohio State University. Wow.

His brother Brad also had an advanced degree.

Really? Yeah.

He married his childhood sweetheart.

I mean, he's living the American

fucking John Cougar Mellencamp song

dream here. And made their way

to the Maryland suburbs, and he

got a job with the Food and Drug Administration.

Really?

They had a nice house, they have three kids, And then shit turns ugly and they get a divorce. Jeff can't do it.
Well, Marcia accuses Jeff of physically abusing her twice. And he was convicted on charges of that, getting a suspended sentence for domestic battery as well.
Like childhood. You know, well, speaking of like childhood, let's talk about his other brother, Brad.
Yeah, Bradfield. What'd he do? Brad's a bad guy.
Real bad guy. What's he up to? Now, Brad's a successful guy.
He's good at, you know, college and a job and all that kind of thing. He married a woman in 1977, and they got divorced by 79.
Nice. That'll work.
That's about how long you should probably marry. About two years.
You're like, well, this isn't working. Well, let's give it a chance and it ain't working.
Okay. Because there were people who get married and they get divorced in like a year.
You're like, you didn't even try. You didn't even give it a chance.
Two years, you go, that's enough. So he had moved to California by the early 80s.

He started a good job at a computer firm then.

He's doing great.

He's starting to turn it all around.

And then he met a woman on a work-related trip to Chicago named Carolyn Calavera.

They had a little fling, and then Carolyn broke things off in in the summer of 84 and after that brad got weird really this i don't understand it it was like seeing this girl for a little bit seeing this woman not even for that long and when she didn't want anything to do with him anymore he's a divorced man like he's had relationships fall apart but this one broke his ass man it fucking broke him like even his like people at work noticed he got weird all of a sudden and um anyway he ends up meeting another woman named patricia mack or mock m-a-k and um she showed up at work there and um brad liked her and she liked him that's great problem is she's married oh no which isn't good obviously she's not for you so they i guess had a little affair but then she chose to stick with her husband right which will happen and um but she still ended up talking to brad and being kind of they said they don't know if it was physical at that point, but it was at least an emotional affair, they were saying, with Brad. She stayed in contact with him even after she got a different job and left.
So she didn't even have to see him every day. No, but she certainly wants that dick.
She wants something. There's certainly a sexual tension there.
Yeah, that's for sure. why else are you keeping in touch with someone you had sex with unless there's a something going on there well a reminder that maybe you could do it again something you never know at least it's a like a you know a dick in a glass case at that point you know a case of emergency smash away and he looks at it the same way so there is one time here where pat Patricia's husband is out of town on business and Brad invites Patricia over for dinner.
So she accepts. Why not? I guess she's going to come over.
I mean, yeah, well, for her, it's why. Why? Let's do it.
So Brad, I mean, has a real nice dinner, wine and good food and, you type of thing. By the end of the night, they're chilling at his swimming pool, drinking drinks, doing all this type of shit.
They start kissing. They do all that.
They're making out. They go in the house.
They're getting into it. Patricia's shirt's off and everything like that.
And apparently, he starts going to work on her nipples, right? Just licking and stuff like that. He starts biting.
Starts biting hard. Oh, what? To the point where she said, hey, stop.
That hurts. Too hard.
She said, you're going to leave marks and my husband's going to see them.

You know how that works.

But he kept doing it.

So she like slapped him like, hey, stop biting.

You know, I get that you're all into it, but you got to chill the fuck out.

Thanks for the enthusiasm, but yeah.

So Brad gets angry at being slapped.

And rather than stopping, he bites the tip of her nipple off. Oh my God, that's horrifying.
Dude, that's horrifying. Yeah.
He fucking bit her nipple off, man. I don't even know why.
She's in trouble now. Yeah.
So she got away from him but fell down crying in pain and bleeding obviously so apparently a neighbor uh hears these screams but doesn't know what's going on so she doesn't call the cops oh i bet she wished she would have or at least yeah this patricia woman wished she would have so as patricia tried to get away brad corners her in a room in his house and just beats her beyond recognition oh no he beat her head so hard that he knocked her out obviously and um that's when he was like oh shit i've been beating this woman so hard that he, you know, fucking said I knocked her out. So he ends up grabbing his keys, getting a pack of cigarettes and leaving.
He takes off on foot, apparently deciding to walk around because he's drunk. She is unconscious and bleeding on his floor.
So he walks and smokes and does all this type of shit. And you'd think he's trying to calm down.
That's the thing. Instead, he must have been coming up with some crazy fucking plan because he gets back.
And instead of trying to save her and take her to the hospital, he drags her still unconscious body to his bathroom and cuts her right breast off of her body. What? The one he bit the nipple off of.
Yes. Then he left her unconscious on the floor.
She still didn't come to? Oh, my God. She has so much brain damage.
Yeah. He totally fucking beat her savagely.
He's a big guy. He savag her he took that's not the weird part though yeah he took her breast outside and put it on the grill and cooked it and ate it what he cooked that was the idea her breast and ate it from walking and smoking smoking and walking he's i got I'm a little.
Oh, my. I'm peckish.

I could go for a bite.

Crazy. So that's wild.
He then went inside. He doused Patricia's crotch with rubbing alcohol and set it on fire.
Oh, Jesus. She's still alive.
This is fucking crazy. So he then got a butcher knife from the kitchen and absolutely carved her up with it.

I mean, came in there and it's fucking horrifying.

He cut off her arms.

He cut off her legs.

Oh, my God.

He cut off her head and even cut her torso in half with very good precision, by the way.

Yeah.

Knew what he was doing.

He didn't do...

She died from the dismemberment.

That's crazy.

From blood loss.

We don't know at what point she died.

Like, it's...

Who knows?

She had a broken skull

and we have no clue

what exactly killed her.

But it is horrifying.

Wow.

He then stuffs everything

into plastic bags and throws them out in a remote location, just trash bags. So that's that.
So the problem is when her husband gets home, he's pretty worried that his wife is missing. Yeah, where's my wife? She's a real stable lady with a steady job and everything like that.
So one thing leads to another, and next thing you know, the cops are talking to Brad. Yeah.
They talk to her job and they go on her friends and they know that she's been seeing this guy and all this type of shit. He lied.
So we wasn't well. She wasn't with me.
I don't fucking know. So the cops leave and then Brad starts to feel some remorse, apparently.
So shortly after the police left, he had a mental breakdown and stabbed himself in the stomach in an attempt to commit suicide. Wow.
But he didn't bleed to death, so he ended up calling an ambulance. So then when he's at the hospital, he confesses to the police about what he did.
Remember how you came by earlier asking about her? Well, yeah. So that is pretty fucking interesting here.
Brad is put on trial for first-degree murder, and he cooperates and confesses, and he gets 15 years to life for the murder. Wow.
By the way, he's eligible for parole in 2002.

At that point, we'll talk about how that worked out.

Okay.

So, back to Haddon.

But that's Brad at this point.

So, while Haddon is losing his fucking mind doing weird shit,

his brother has gone completely off the deep end into cannibalism.

Really fucking his life up.

What happened in that house to cause this?

You know, like, with the parents to cause this shit.

I don't know. deep end into cannibalism really fucking his life up what happened in that house yeah to cause this you know like to cause with the parents to cause this shit i hope allison's okay wow she is she took off and said i never had a family she just made her own life fuck these people she's the only one who got out unscathed i feel like so october 1985 this is a young nine-year-old girl named Sarah Pryor that Haddon kills this young girl.
She vanished after going for a walk on Route 26 in Weyland at 4 p.m.

The Pryors were new in town, just moved in from Boston or from near Boston, and she just disappeared into thin air, her father said.

Thank you. The Pryors were new in town, just moved in from Boston or from near Boston, and she just disappeared into thin air, her father said.
Don't have any idea what happened. They said that they got in touch with the police department there.
She had disappeared in Wayland. They said, quote, at approximately 4 p.m.
that day, Sarah Pryor told her father she was going for a walk in the neighborhood. We know that she walked north on Concord Road for approximately one and a half miles.
She was seen by several individuals at places along the route. At some point, don't know exactly where, it's our belief that she was abducted, but we have no crime scene, no witnesses, no physical evidence.
We do not know what happened to this child. That's what the police report said.
They called her your basic, average, happy-go-lucky nine-year-old girl, shy around strangers, family-oriented, athletic, does well in school. Later on, when she's missing, there's a message on the Berlin Wall about her.
What? People would write messages on the Berlin Wall before they took it down. And one of the messages was about her.
Yeah, it said, where is this here? Yeah, they wrote a thing about her disappearance and, you know, all that kind of thing. Her father said, I was at home on the day she was abducted.
She had made herself a dish of Jell-O. She watched a TV show and finished eating the dish of Jell-O.
Then she said she was going to go out for a walk. I said, aren't you going to clean the dish of Jell-O? She said she cleaned it when she got back.
She walked out the front door. I never saw her again.
Wow. It's wild shit.
They said they've kept her room just the same as it was. They said we expect the worst and pray for the best.
And the cop said that they are, I work on this case every day, made a promise to the parents. I'll never stop working on it.
He also said, none of us could believe something this terrible could happen in our community. It was unthinkable.
Now people think about it all the time. It's certainly brought right up close that we are not safe here either.
Yeah, that's right. Safe anywhere.
So I guess Sarah was starting to feel comfortable, they said, so she was going on walks, like exploring because they had just moved there. Her mom said, Sarah was shy, and I was teaching her to be more trusting of other people.
Going for a walk was a big deal for her. She was proud to go explore.
The last thing she said to my husband was, I'm going to go further today than I've ever gone before. That's the difference between the 80s.
In the 80s, a nine-year-old girl would say that, and you'd go, okay, bye. Good for you.
Now they'd be like, no, you're fucking not. Not without me, you're not going anywhere farther than you've gone before.
Are you crazy? So after the girl disappeared,

the parents' marriage dissolved,

and it turned into a big mess, obviously.

It's tough.

So they said tips have led police to search parts of Boston, Baltimore,

Rhode Island, and Cape Cod for signs of Sarah.

All have turned out to be either psychic speculation,

cruel frauds, or sightings of girls who look like Sarah.

So the parents said they stopped getting their hopes up after a while. The mother said she holds out no hope that Sarah's alive, but she hopes the killer will be caught.
She says, the mother says she's certain she knows who did it. Oh? A convicted murderer in Texas named John Wordy.
She said that's who's responsible for Sarah's death. Why him? Wayland Police Chief Gerald Galvin, who was headed the investigation in Wayland from the start, said that Wordy, this guy, a 50-year-old, was in the area the day Sarah disappeared.
Witnesses reported seeing a car similar to Wordy stopped at various points along Concord Road on the afternoon of October 9th, 1985. And police believe that he returned to Massachusetts in 1994 after being released early from his prison sentence for strangling a Texas teenager.
Six weeks after Sarah disappeared, Wordy tried to force a Newton woman into his car at knife point, but the woman escaped. So Wordy was sentenced to seven to 12 years in Massachusetts prison.
After his release, he went back to Texas for violating the conditions of his murder parole, and he was put back in prison. Now, they questioned him, and he told the police, I have nothing to do with that Sarah Pryor shit, and I don't even know anything about it.
So, no, it didn't happen. and he told the police i have nothing to do with that sarah prior shit i don't even know anything about it so no didn't happen and he's he wasn't lying it's not him but they they i mean in the paper the mother's like he fucking killed my daughter period and it wasn't him um priors that that family the sarah priors family said that the the wayland police received anonymous letters that year on December 16th and 17th that said Sarah's body could be found in a well near six cottages protected by a row of pine trees.
Yeah. They were typewritten letters postmarked from Boston, said the well was in Rhode Island, about 10 miles from the Massachusetts border.
They said that Rhode Island police failed to turn up any trace of Sarah, though. They said the fact that they have not found the body is encouraging.
Well, not really, because she's probably not. That's not great.
We're real excited because we haven't found it yet. Yeah.
A lot of these people were psychic sending letters, too, which is getting hopes up and shit. They offer a reward.
A $30,000 reward is offered for information to get Sarah back. They said, we know that a nine-year-old little girl cannot have disappeared without someone knowing what happened to her.
That's a fact. I can tell you what she's not doing is she didn't go get a job somewhere because she doesn't like it here.
She didn't just fucking take off and start college. We're real encouraged that we haven't found the body yet.
She's probably off being successful somewhere. Yeah, I'm sure she started her own business.
When you first start your business, it takes a long time to get it off the ground. She's been working hard.
You'll hear about her soon when they write articles about her successful cupcake business. Nine and a half.
She's doing great.

So early 1986, Haddon is arrested for shoplifting women's underwear.

Okay.

So we all knew he did that.

He's getting brand new ones, huh?

He wears the women's underwear under his pants.

That's what he wears all the time.

That's what he likes.

During all of this, Haddon Sr., who had been suffering from pancreatic cancer commits suicide that's yeah he kills himself right that's the move a pancreatic cancer is a tough one and i don't know his son is one son is a fucking cannibal yeah got found out for cannibalism and murder his other son is a fucking nutcase i think this guy is just like okay his daughter left ran away never came back i think it's just i'm done he probably felt like the pancreatic is penance for what he's given the society something he should anyway yeah so may of 1986 jeff and hadden um they're living together uh hadden has got himself a cooking job at a local country club. And, you know, he's got some money saved up.
He's got a pension check coming in, too. So he pays his brother $500 in rent, which is a lot, actually, for a basement in the 80s.
But he liked hanging out with his brother, and his brother needed the money. So that's kind of his brother's going through a hard time.
He just got divorced. He lost custody of his kids.
And Haddon would help out by occasionally picking up the children for visits if Jeff was at work or something. So Jeff liked the extra money.
He liked having help with the kids around the house. So they seemed to get closer, and especially after Brad ends up doing all this crazy shit and eating a woman that brings them closer which is interesting um and then their father kills himself and that also yeah no it's just us brings them closer so the clark brothers found solace with each other basically here so hadden for once was a source of comfort for somebody like jeff liked having him around um hadden went to his father's funeral came dressed in his navy uniform oh even though he was obviously been in the navy in a long time and you got kicked out i was gonna say you got kicked out for being insane i don't know this is not a point of pride this is disappointment that's probably he probably didn't have a suit think about it's probably his best suit.
Oh, his only dress is his dress white. Yeah.
That shit is, I mean, it looks sharp anyway. If he could still fit it, that's pretty good.
Good shit. Yeah, he's always pretty thin, so I think he could never, even when he's older.
So it seemed like he's trying at this point. He would do well with Jeff's kids when they came, and Jeff said it was because Haddon's kind of a big kid himself.
He said he never really matured past a certain age, so maybe that's the deal here. He said it this way.
Jeff described him, quote, here was this six-foot-two tall inch man who was their emotional age. He was a playmate, but a playmate who could drive a truck to the park and choose the biggest swing.
Yeah. Haddon was a playmate who had money to buy them candy and who taught them how to kill skin, butcher, and cook rabbits he raised in our backyard pen.
He was an adult with the social skills of an 8 to 10 year old child. So they started arguing over money though.
And also Jeff started arguing with him about how close he was with the kids. You're hanging out with the kids too much.
There is even, at some point here, Jeff decides that he, well, not decides. He saw and says later that he saw Haddon fondling himself in front of the children.
Oh, Haddon. second part but she doesn't want anyone jerking it around my kids either so yeah so he moved out he finds a cheaper room on the other side of town for 150 a month but he's pissed he's pissed he got kicked out he's not happy now you'd think that he would just go yeah he's got a new woman coming in he's gonna get married not gonna have my weirdo brother living here too in our during the honeymoon but not him um and then a week after that, this is fucking wild,

or a week before he got kicked out,

he was mad at his six-year-old niece anyway, Eliza,

who called him a retard.

Oh, here we go.

A six-year-old called him a retard,

and he wanted to kill her after that, he said, for that remark.

Yeah, because you're six.

You can't kill his father. I'm an adult.
And I can't kill my dad, so guess what? I can't kill my dad, you're six, and think you're mentally superior to me. You're going to die.
That's fucking bad. So he is kicked out here, and he's having problems.
This is May 31st, 1986. He's standing outside Jeff's home and it's hot outside.
And, uh, he's standing out there being pissy. And I guess he said he's there to give, uh, to get his stuff.
He had more stuff there. Now everyone was out.
All the, everyone in the house was gone. So, you know, there's that.
And,. And anyway, he's at the house.
He's waiting to pick up a box of his shit. And as he starts going toward the house, a little girl walks up.
Oh, God. A six-year-old little girl named Michelle Dorr, D-O-R-R.
And he knew her. He knew her.
He goes, oh, what's this kid's name? I know this kid um she is just a little cute little girl with freckles and you know she's eliza's friend his little niece and his dad or this little girl's dad lives on the street lives two doors away and um you know that's and he's there on the weekend so this's there on the weekends, hangs out with his niece on the weekends.

So she's wearing a pink ruffled swimsuit. She's wet.
She was playing in the little backyard pool, the little plastic pool. Her home life isn't great either.
Her mother or her father would slap around the mother in front of her at times. And so she has like a little bit of a stutter and has like some emotional problems from all this crazy stuff that's going on at home.

Her mother said later on she had seen too much for a six-year-old.

So back to this current day, she, the little girl asked, where's Eliza?

And, you know, Haddon said to himself, oh, I can get revenge on little Eliza here for calling me a name. Yeah.
So he says she's in the house upstairs in her room playing with God, with dolls. You can go in if you want.
Oh boy. So Michelle walked up the house, went up the steps.
And, um and when she was out of sight, he went into the back of his truck

and got his toolbox.

Now, in there, his toolbox had his chef shit in it.

In there, he had his knife roll.

And so he takes his knife roll,

and he selects a 12-inch long chef's knife and walks in the house, follows this little girl into Eliza's room, throws her to the floor. She didn't even know it was going.
It happened so fast she didn't even scream. She didn't even know it was happening.
He threw her to the floor and slashed her with a backhand slash from left to right across her chest. And the second one went back the other way.
It looks she had basically had a Z on her chest. Yeah.
She. Yeah.
No, it was like a Z the way she the way he did it. Oh, it came back.
Slash. Slash.
It looked like the Zorro sign. Basically, He then, she is in shock, falls down.

He covers up her mouth, and he stabs the 12-inch knife through her throat.

What the fuck?

Obviously, the blood goes everywhere.

It's an old house with some sloped floors, so blood is going fucking everywhere in the room. He didn't know what to do.
He didn't know whether to mop up the blood and cover this up. Or maybe in his mind he should try to have sex with her now that she's dead.
Oh, my God. He tried that, and he couldn't do it.
Yeah. So then he went downstairs, got some plastic trash bags.
Did I say that? Yes, I did. I didn't say trash, plastic, flash bags.
Ran out to his truck, got some rags and his Navy duffel bag, went back upstairs, stuffed her into a plastic bag, then put this body into a duffel bag. Then he mopped up the floor like, you know, wax on, wax off on that kind of shit.
He said he did it like like an aircraft carrier, the way you'd swab the deck there. Everything had blood on it, and everything he could find with blood on it, he was sticking it into trash bags.
He cleaned up, you know, to the naked eye, pretty decent. He threw the bags and the body in the bag in the back of his truck, and then he raced off to get to his chef's job about 20 minutes away okay because he couldn't be late so oh boy people are obviously looking for michelle clearly she's a six-year-old girl so this girl's father carl carl door he's looking he looked into the backyard several times he didn't see michelle um he said that his father he said that she just vanished after he he had filled the waiting pool for her in the backyard and then went inside to watch the Indianapolis 500 on TV.
What year was that? 1986. Wow.
So he said he had last seen her a little after two o'clock when she came inside for a towel. so he said he wasn't worried at the time, though, because this is a safe street and it's, you know, nothing exciting ever happens here.
It's fine. It's going to be easy.
He said, my daughter's probably down the street playing. That's what he thought with Eliza, which is her friend.
So that's what he said. He goes, I looked out there.
I didn't see her, but I figured she went down the street with Eliza. So he just said, eh, whatever, and started paying a few bills while watching the Indy 500.
She's six. Dude, you don't just go, I don't know where my six-year-old is, but I'm sure she'll turn up.
Like, what the fuck? Finally, about 5.30. Yeah, I said five.
It's at three and a half hours. He just let this go.
It's a long race, James. He waited until the fucking checkered flag, dude.
You got to wait for Rahal to take the checkered. He had to see fucking Al Unzer Jr.
take the whole thing. He had to sit.
It's the only name I could think of from old NASCAR. I think it was Rahal that won, probably.
Or Mario Andretti. I don't know.
One of those fucking guys. There's only like six fucking famous ones.
I i don't remember from fucking indie cars from back then so um he by that time he it's 5 30 he walks down to the to jeff clark's house to see if his daughter's with eliza he finds jeff uh in the backyard barbecuing really yeah um his kids are there jeff's kids are there. His new girlfriend's there.
Eliza's there. No Michelle, though.
So Jeff says, I haven't seen Michelle all day. I got home and I've been barbecuing.
I have no idea. And so they ask Eliza.
Eliza says, I haven't seen her all day either. She didn't come down here to play with me.
So Carl was like, what the fuck? So Carl walks around. He walks down to the street, doesn't find anything, starts knocking on doors.
Have you seen my daughter? Is she over here? Is she talking to you? She has no idea. He doesn't know what to do.
So he starts panicking, drives around the neighborhood, and then heads over to the police station and reports her missing. When he does that, he becomes their prime suspect.
Oh my God, really? Absolutely. a strange father living off here he's watching her she disappears it doesn't look good right so they said that the cop said that when a child disappears you look at the parents or the caregiver first especially if in a divorce situation it's even more they said it's usually it's 90 chance that it's either the parents or the caregiver that did something to the child.
That's just statistics. Is that right? The detective here, Mike Garvey, who is the first cop to speak with Carl Doerr, said it's page one in the handbook.
He said the more Carl was there, the more he looked like the guy. They said he had threatened his wife.
He said that he would abduct their daughter just three months before threatening the wife. Oh, but he regrets those words.
They've been battling in a custody battle for years. Carl was the last to see him alive.
And they asked him to take a polygraph test. The polygraph examiner told them Carl might know more about Michelle's whereabouts than he was telling them.
And cop said that's our fucking guy. That's our guy.
Yep. Carl said quote it was good cop bad cop.
They were right in my face telling me I'd failed the polygraph exam and that it had been 24 hours and they knew she was dead. We were going to find her they said and when we do we're coming to get you.
So Carl scared shitless. Also, this girl, Michelle's mother, told the cops she thinks Carl did it.
Really? So, I mean, they're just all on board Carl. They're not even looking at anybody else.
She gave them an extra motive. She said her estranged husband was trying to get out of paying her $400 a month in child support as well.
So that would help. So he told the cops he loved his daughter.
They said, no, you don't. He took a second lie detector test with a different examiner and passed it.
Okay. So then he underwent hypnosis even to try to prove his innocence.
Wow. He took sodium pentothal, truth serum, quote unquote.
Okay, yeah. And none of this convinced the cops, even though under hypnosis, truth serum and lie detector he said he didn't do it.
So yeah, this is not great. They said, nope, it's him, he snapped, he did this and yeah.
And apparently, in a psychotic episode, he told a psychiatrist that he had abducted and killed his daughter really he didn't why would he tell him that he said quote i started hallucinating i couldn't take the pressure my brain was soup when they talk about false confessions they happen so fucking often and this is why people's we sit in our living rooms and watch the shit and you know in in the best possible conditions with your drink of choice next to you eating a fucking snack on your 80 inch fucking lcd tv this asshole like why would you say that but when you are in a police station for 24 hours and they're you're taking fucking and it's oh every day this is your day and your kid's missing and you don't know what's going on and they're making you take drugs and hypnosis. You might just snap.
That'll happen. And you might start to believe them when they say we can help you.
We can get you home. Yeah.
The fuck. Yeah.
And exactly. And he we know for a thousand percent fact this man did not kill his daughter.
He didn't do it. Absolutely.
didn't do it. Fucking, you know, Haddon has the details.

He knows where the body is.

He fucking did it.

But this poor guy, he said that his mental state, he started to believe that people on television shows were talking about him.

He snapped.

Dude, his brain broke.

His brain fucking broke.

He said that he looked behind the TV set.

And when he didn't see anything, he thought the police were fucking up the TV reception. That's how fucking crazy is.
The next day, Carl got into his car, drove to his father's grave and began talking to his headstone, thinking the headstone was speaking back. Yeah.
He said, quote, I believed that if I could find Michelle, I could bring her back to life. And if I was able to do that, then I must be Jesus.
He's not wrong. He went from watching an IndyCar race to three days later, believing that he may be Jesus and he's going to bring his dead daughter back from the grave he also because he said that he could do that he began calling himself the white messiah okay i'll believe it if you can bring a little girl back i'm listening i'll watch if you can do it yeah so anyway the cops took this all as a confession basically yeah so they bring him in again and again and again and again he's eventually committed to a psychiatric hospital for 72 hours of uh a psychiatric observation because he's acting so crazy soon as he got out they questioned him again okay, he's just basically the thing he did, though.

He was ashamed that he had neglected his daughter because he knew that he should have kept a better eye on her.

So he fudged the timeline.

That's why Haddon is never considered a suspect.

Yeah, you can't do that.

He told the cops it was around 2.10 p.m. that she left rather than a little before 2.
That 15 minutes gives Haddon a perfect alibi because he was at work after that. So if he said the truth, then Haddon would have been a suspect because they talked to Haddon.
They talked to all the neighbors, but he wasn't a suspect because the timeline didn't fit. The timeline.
Yeah, he finished his— So back meanwhile, while all this is going on, Haddon finishes up his shift at the country club and begins driving with Michelle's body in his pickup truck. Yeah.
In the back, he's got the cap on it. So, I mean, he can't see it like at a stoplight or anything.
He stopped off at the nearby Bethesda Naval Hospital to get the hand on his cut, cut on his hand fixed up. Yeah's part of his benefits package when he was discharged from the Navy.
He leaves the hospital about midnight, drives toward Baltimore on Old Columbia Pike. He saw some woods pulled over to the shoulder of the road and stopped.
So he said if the cops came by, he was ready to tell them that he just was trying to piss and he couldn't wait, So he had to pee right there. He grabbed the duffel bag, flashlight, and a shovel from the back of his truck and over the guardrail.
Just telling him he's making potatoes. Just saying, God, I'm doing stuff down here.
Yeah. Making pissy potatoes.
Anybody need some pissy potatoes? So he goes into a ravine into the woods. At the base of a tree, he dug a grave four feet long, digging until he hit clay.
Basically, he couldn't dig anymore. Took the little girl from the duffel bag and put her in there.
But before he finished, he had one more thing to do. He ate a piece of her.
What is the deal? He had to it i don't know what about what about this family causes two people to not only think i'll kill somebody but i should probably see what they taste like also right sample it who the fuck thinks of that we've covered a lot of murderers most of them don't think i should probably get a taste yeah that's wild man that fucked up. So he covered her with parts of an old mattress he found nearby and some leaves and then fucking went back to his place.
That was it. Went back to his rented room.
June 8th, 1986. Now, this is nine days later.
A detective, Wayne Farrell, is cruising around the neighborhood on Sudbury Road where this all happened. He was trying to figure out anything here, and he found Haddon in the driveway of his brother's house fucking with his truck engine.
The cop said, were you here yesterday? And he said, ah, for about two or three minutes. So this guy, this detective later on told another detective about this encounter, that there was a guy on the street for about three minutes.
He said that he had checked around and that Haddon Clark seemed to be the neighborhood weirdo. Yeah.
So this guy, this detective's boss said, go ahead and bring him in for a fucking chit chat here. So they do.
They call in Jeff and Jeff calls Haddon because they didn't know how to get a hold of Haddon. Haddon goes to the police precinct the next morning.
He's supposed to. He was on time, but they let him chill in there for a little bit and do all of that.
He said he punched the client time clock at the country club where he worked at 246 that afternoon. And they did some figuring.
well if carl saw his daughter at 210 then hadden clark couldn't have found abducted and killed someone then hit a body within 36 minutes that's impossible and that's and and drove 20 minutes to work right that's gotta you gotta have a plan to do that yeah they said they weren't about to you know they said they weren't allowed about they were going to question him but they thought that you know his alibi is probably pretty solid they were went at him a little bit soft uh they asked him about the rabbits he had raised behind his brother's house and his life and all that kind of shit they started asking him about the kids in the neighborhood and hadn't complained that one of the little boys had kicked quote kicked him in the testicles while he was playing with a group. A, while you're playing with a group of kids.
B, you have six-year-olds kicking you in the balls and calling you a retard. That's a weird day.
What a fucking day. Why do you set yourself up to have that day? Yeah.
So he said he didn't like that kid. He also said he once playfully pinned a little girl to the ground.
There is no playful way that an adult man pins a little girl to the ground. Not your own? You don't do that.
Nope. Not a relative.
Yeah, not your own and not laughing and having horseplay. With their parents present, if it's not yours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Still, even then, no good.
Yeah, that could be precarious also no good so they said to him is that what you did with michelle and they pulled out a little a picture of her and they said he began rocking back and forth in his chair and he began crying and not looking at the photo oh which is not good that's not good that's the worst response to this picture that you could have it's

the worst thing you could do not oh yeah that's i've seen that kid that's the right response rocking and crying is and refusing to look at the picture again bad so they said again is that what you did with michelle and he mumbled an answer mumbled an answer and then out of nowhere he He says, I feel sick.

Do you have a bathroom?

And he ran into the police station bathroom and began vomiting loudly into the toilet with the cop standing right behind him watching him like, holy shit. That's the that's the craziest response to a fucking photo we've ever seen.
It's a cute kid. You shouldn't be throwing up.
This is. Yeah.
Wow. Jesus Christ.
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So then he's throwing up and they're yelling at him. What did you do? The parents need to know.
Tell me what happened. They need to bury their child.
Was it an accident? Let's talk about it. And he was throwing up.
Yeah. So what they did is, as he continued to throw up, they slid a photo of Michelle under the stall door.
Oh, God, Jesus. Do you need more fuel for that vomit? And said, what did you do? Yeah.
Between heaves, he said, quote, I don't know. I may have done something.
Sometimes I black out and do things I don't remember. Oh, boy, that's a terrible answer.
All of these are the worst answers you could possibly give. But he then said again he said but i was there at 246 i checked into work at 246 and the detective checked his notes he had called the country club he checked in at two he fucking punched in at 246 so they were like he may be crazy he may be a weirdo but he's not a time traveler so there's no fucking way he could do this.
He's a punctual weirdo. Yeah, he's a punctual weirdo.
But they said there's no way the time frame works. So they don't know why he's reacting like this.
But who the fuck knows? Carl Dore gave him an alibi, essentially. God damn it.
So this crime won't be solved now. They can't ever pin it on the father.
They didn't do anything with Haddon, so it just goes cold as shit. So for the next few years, Haddon's mental state just goes to shit.
It's not good. Oh, man, it's really bad.
He stopped renting his room for $150 a month, even though he could very easily afford it, and starts living in the back of his pickup truck

under the cap.

Then he would often set up camp

in the woods just off the interstate.

Yeah,

nobody would hire him as a chef,

probably because he has woodland animals

in his beard and shit like that.

Burrs stuck to his

clothes are like, I don't think so.

So he would... He's working odd jobs as a gardener and you know things like that um he would work at fast food places he'd do whatever just to he doesn't need money he doesn't spend it on anything so november of 1987 he has stopped for speeding um in montgomery county maryland that's over 10 miles an hour over the limit and then march of 88 he stopped again for speeding in montgomery county same thing again so he needs ticket money that's all he needs here so he tried to get help a few times one time he showed up at a veterans hospital after and then stayed a few days got a few doses of haldol and then um took off and went back to the woods yeah so um doctor's diagnosis was this, quote, his mental state is psychosis with questionable etiology.
He states that birds and squirrels talk to him and keep him company. He's tearful at times with intermittent outbursts of anger and agitation.
He's a potential danger to himself through poor judgment and self-defeating behavior. And he told the doctor, I think I have a split personality.
I don't like to hurt people, but I do things I'm not aware of. Yeah, and you're a psycho Cinderella.
This is fucking horrific. This is wild shit.
So, he ends up, he's boarding in 1988. He is staying at the house of an older couple yeah but they asked him to leave because their daughter had to move into the house and wanted to use that room when he left he stole tools records and some rare books um and also he wrapped fish heads in plastic and hid them around the house oh he fished him he magical joke it goes.
He shrimped them. He shrimped them.
Shrimped them up good. Yep.
That is a horrible thing. Yeah.
This place I worked, they pulled a prank on this one kid, man. I felt so bad for him.
It was Phoenix in the summer, and he didn't have air conditioning. He was driving a Saturn with no with no air conditioning and they put a fucking fish under his front seat when like when he got to work in the morning and he worked you know nine ten hours of 115 degree day and then opened the door yeah and you can imagine how overwhelming that was uh he couldn't find it for a while oh no they left it in there oh yeah yeah and then finally found it in there he couldn't find it so he drove home and then finally found it and then the car never would you could never get that out of the car it was there forever it was the company i worked at they had to retire a truck that they did that to me with a tilapia under the front seat.
It'll do it. On a Memorial Day weekend.
Oh, my God. With the windows up.
And I threw up. I opened the door and threw up.
He did, too, I think. And they had to retire the truck.
It was useless. You can't.
At least that was a work truck where they just give you another one. This poor bastard.
He drove a Saturn with no air conditioning, which is not a choice. That is the best he could get.
And now he has a Saturn with no air conditioning that reeks of fish. They sent it out to detail it.
It came back and it smells worse. Yeah.
He just angered the hive at that point. Just made it worse.
It's a dead animal, man. And it just smells like death.
it it never goes away nope late one night he hanged their cat and left it on the doorstep dude after it's already over like he fished him he shrimped him and then he left came back and and and hung the cat that's not all either we'll get more. No, he's just terrorizing these people with the worst things.

He later told the detective, I knew that would get to him.

I knew that would hurt him.

You know, killing their pets and ruining their house.

So September 88, his mother confronts him for stealing items from her home in Rhode Island.

He visited his mom and during his stay, he started stealing shit.

She caught him and screamed at him.

She said, what are you doing stealing from me me he knocked her down and started to kick her then he got in his truck and tried to run her over she dove out of the way just in time to not get run over by his truck so she tries uh presses charges of assault and battery and he gets one year of probation she writes him a letter saying that that he is dead to her and that she does not love him anymore. Which is just what he needs.
She said she was going to pretend he was dead until he got some help from a veterans hospital. She said always remember that your mother and father loved you.
And she wrote the word loved in past tense several times. Decembercember 25th christmas day 1988 he's pulled over for speeding in montgomery county and they find an unregistered loaded 38 caliber handgun in his possession yikes he got a suspended sentence in probation for that yep um back to the uh the people's house that he put the fish heads on here.
His landlord said there he seemed crazy and evil and he booby trapped the house. Oh, this is a complete.
Yeah, this is the same one. In addition to the fish head and the stealing and the fucking cat, he also balanced a 10 gallon can of oil on top of the door so that it would spill when it was pushed open.
You know, like a cartoon. And he sprayed black dye all over the living room carpet and hid the fish heads inside the family's piano, the chimney, the stove, all places you wouldn't look.
Holy shit. In the chimney, he's going to smoke a fish head, too.
Yeah, well, that is the only one that fucking probably will get that one probably smells nice yeah put a little pepper on it a little garlic that could smell okay the charging document read the smell of decaying fish permeated the house and was extremely difficult to eradicate yeah his former landlord said his lifestyle is getting even and then said we feel scared uh after that he told us about getting even with other people so they were still scared he pleaded guilty as part of a deal which dropped the unlicensed loaded handgun offense no jail time is served and he has a suspended sentence and is assigned to a probation officer and ordered to get psychiatric treatment There we go. That's the first time.
That's good. Yeah.
So he does. But he left it immediately after being admitted.
So he's got problems. February 1989.
He gets in trouble for dressing up as a woman and going into local churches and stealing purses and wallets out of coats during like ladies church meetings. He goes in dressed as a woman and steals from them.
15 counts of theft. He is charged with a lot.
Yeah. He did it all over the all different churches.
Women would be inside doing choir practice. He would go to the cloakroom and steal all their shit because they would figure, you know, no one's going to steal their purse from church.
He was on the day he was arrested. He pulled over to the shoulder of the road and he was screwing around with his car.
A cop offered assistance. This is a crazy thing.
No one. He didn't get pulled over.
He was dicking with his car. Cop pulled up and said, hey, can I help you with your car? And he panicked.
Began fumbling around the front seat, trying to hide coats and purses. Oh.
And he just yelled at the cop, no, no, you can't go in my truck. He's like, I didn't want to until now.
That's where all my stuff's at. Now I really want to.
I didn't before. I'd sure like to now.
But the cops saw a black gun holster hanging at the top of a seatbelt restraint, and they wanted to see what else they had. Then they saw the women's purses and coats and said, are these yours? And he said, yes.
And they said, they're yours. And he said, yes, I'm a woman.
Okay. And he went, nice beard, ma'am.
Terrific. Nice to meet you, ma'am.
What I'm saying is because he's dressed in full man's regalia working on his car. So they search further.

They find women's wigs, a hypodermic syringe, women's dresses, and a thick roll of cash.

Yeah.

Got a bunch of cash, which is wild.

So 17 counts of criminal indictment, 15 for theft, and possession of controlled paraphernalia for the syringes, obviously.

So anyway, he's going to plead guilty, like we said, and he's sentenced to 18 months, but the judge suspends all but 45 days. What? Now, he serves 45 days in jail before he posts his bond, and later boasted that he did it on purpose because it's cold in February and it was warmer in jail than in his truck.
Didn't want to be outside anyway. Yeah, he said it was more comfortable in the county detention center than in the freezing cold he said he liked the three meals a day and a roof over his head and they had movies every thursday so this wasn't too bad in there this is great it's like summer camp to him he said he was he was reluctant to leave when spring arrived that should let you know how bad your life is get it to fucking like jail county is better you're like this is great.
I don't even want to listen. It's like a spa to him though.
He looks Get it to fucking jail. County is better.
You're like, this is great.

I don't even want to listen.

It's like a spa to him though.

He looks at it like a spa.

It's a vast improvement of his life.

Holy shit.

Now they said they gave him three years probation because,

uh,

he had serious mental problems.

Yeah.

The,

uh,

Maryland judge said the defendant has serious mental problems and is now addressing them. And his public defender, Donald Salzman, was so sympathetic he wrote a letter for Haddon Clark and instructed him to hand it to any police officer the next time he was arrested.
License and registration. Well, read this.
Here. The note read, to any police officer, I want the help of my lawyer, Donald P.
Salzman, and I want my lawyer to be present before I answer any questions about my case or any other matters. I do not wish to speak to anyone concerning my criminal charges pending against me or anyone else or any criminal investigation, regardless of whether I am charged.
I do not want to be in any lineup or give any handwriting samples or give any blood, hair, urine or any other samples unless my lawyer is present and then gives the lawyer's address, phone number. So this is just give them this rather than have you say dumb shit and cry when they show you an eight year old's picture.
It's going to stink of a sovereign citizen, but they're going to get to the bottom. Oh, I get it.
Oh, you're crazy. Oh, you're insane.
I see. But by 1990, living in the woods is cheap and he saves money.

He has $40,000 saved, over $40,000 by 1990.

Wow.

Just saved up.

So, yeah, they said that he defied the stereotypes of homeless people.

They said he was super industrious and he was always doing shit.

Like, he wasn't lazy or any bullshit. They said he tries hard to feed himself.
He's a little standoffish sometimes, but he wants social acceptance. They said that he plays chess.
He does things like that. He joins the First Baptist Church of Bethesda.
He's not doing okay. He's doing all right.
The reverend said he came for the social aspect. He's a little loud sometimes and would make remarks that were immature.
He was aware of that, and he didn't have social skills. They said he was a man to whom friends were invaluable.
He wanted friends really bad, but nobody liked him. He was his friend.
No, except for the kids, and then they started calling him him names and kick him in the ball so they said he would tell you he had days when he got depressed um one person from the group said i tried to avoid talking to him he talked nonsense i stayed away from him 1992 penny hoff telling okay uh h-o-u-g-h-t-e-T-E-L-I-N-G. She is a psychotherapist and a lady who lives in Bethesda.
And her daughter, Laura, she has a daughter named Laura who in 1992 was at Harvard. Fantastic.
Yeah. So doing really well here.
Totally well. So Penny, the mom, needs a gardener.
Now this is about 10 miles from where he had murdered and eaten Michelle Doerr in 1986. Penny likes to help people who need help, basically.
She's a nice lady and she's a psychiatrist. And so, you know, add all that together.
She thought she was doing a good deed when she hired a homeless man from a local church organization in 1992. And that is our guy here.
So she hires him as a gardener and he immediately becomes very attached to Penny. Okay.
Like she's his mother, like in a motherly way, because he doesn't have a mother now. And he has the mentality of an eight-year-old and has no mother.
He needs a mother. He needs a mother.
Now, he's a good worker. He does all his job and shit like that, and he's real good.
He tended to her zinnias and pruned her perennials so well that she began to invite him into the house and let him have run of the kitchen. He was allowed to make himself coffee and use the bathroom without asking if he could come in.
After a while, Penny starts noticing little things are missing. Pearls.
Pearl necklace is missing. Her underwear is missing.
Clothing starts to become missing. So she was not a very observant person, Penny, and had a lot of stuff and didn't really care that much.

But a strand of pearls disappeared, and she noticed that, but she didn't confront him about it. Penny once complained to Haddon about some missing gardening tools, and he blew up and yelled at her.
He was like, how dare you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So she was like, shit, my bad, sorry.
Rather than firing him, she backed off. So Laura, after she graduates from Harvard in June of 92, she comes back home and he doesn't like it because he's the child.
And now her daughter's home and she's paying all his attention to Penny and he's jealous. Yeah, he's jealous.
She said she appeared to like her more than him. You know, because it's her daughter and you're a homeless guy.
She hired to trim the fucking zinnias. What are you talking about? So within a couple of days of her returning, he starts plotting to get back at this Laura for how dare she come home.
October 13, 1992, Penny tells Haddon that she's going away to a conference for a week. She said, I'll be gone from the 17th of October to the 25th, so just so you know, you don't have to come that week.
October 14th, the next day after she told him that, 1992, he purchases two rolls of duct tape, braided rope, and a nylon cord. Pays with with a check those shouldn't be able to be bought together you should go no you have to get like you need like drywall or something to go with this you need some other building materials you don't just need this you son of a bitch fuck what are you gonna get a little shovel too is that what you want no so he wrote a check for this and in the memo part of the check he wrote laura on it this is what wow you shouldn't be able to buy those and for sure laura if you are who's laura you should have to ask who the fuck is that you don't get to write victim that is crazy man so saturday october 17th 1992 laura went to a horse meet i don't know what that is i think you have to be a rich person to know what a horse meat is i mean horse m-e-e-t not she's not going to eat horse meat right she's going to meet with horses.
I've heard of a car meet, you know what I mean? Yeah. People just go and park them in a parking lot.
I was going to line them all up, and you just go up and lift the tail, look at their buttholes, and go, yeah, it looks like a good horse there. That's not about 2014.
That's nice. What do you got there? That's a nice horse.
So there was a gala dinner party following the event afterwards.

The next day is a Sunday, October 18th.

Laura slept in.

She watched some football games with her older brother Warren and his roommate.

She had taken a temporary job in Washington until she decided whether to go on to law school or become a teacher.

Don't go to Harvard and then become a teacher. Not that that's bad, but I just mean for money

wise. Unless you're going to

be a teacher at Harvard.

That's what I mean.

You didn't need to go to Harvard

to get a job as a teacher is what we're saying.

You could have done this at the community college.

And not owed $200,000 in fucking

student loans.

So I guess there was a big project at the

firm due to start the next morning so she went to bed early just after 10 o'clock that night on Sunday the 18th. But she's in bed about two hours when just about midnight Haddon parked his truck on the street next to their house, to Penny and Laura's house.
He went to Penny's gardening shed and grabbed the spare house key that was kept inside. Oh.
He knew about that. By the way, he's wearing full regalia.
He's wearing clothes that he stole from Penny. Oh, my God.
He has a wig on. What a nightmare.
He has her underwear. He's carrying a black purse.
He's wearing her lingerie. All the way to the purse? Purse.
Lingerie, blouse, slacks, underwear, purse, wig. Full costume here.
So he's going as Penny, basically. Horror movie shit.
He also wore a woman's trench coat, and underneath the trench coat, he concealed a .22 caliber rifle. Oh.
He opened opened the door tiptoed into laura's room use the gun to nudge her awake yeah okay she woke up and he yelled at her why are you in my bed so you're awoke you awaken to a strange man dressed Yeah. Pointing a gun at you and saying, why are you in my bed? You'd have to think that was a dream at first, right? You'd close your eyes, reopen them like three times and be like, this isn't real, right? Laura just sat there.
I knew I was going to eat spaghetti that late. What the fuck? God damn it.
Spicy. Spicy.
Don't eat Indian food. Not past seven.
God damn seven god damn it's crazy do i have too much coffee tonight so laura just lays there terrified what the fuck so he yells again what are you doing in my bed and she was like i don't know what the fuck you're talking about then he said why are you wearing my clothes so laura started to cry he didn't know what to do she's like what's happening then he yelled at her tell me i'm laura what in the fuck tell me i'm you yeah so she said you're laura please don't hurt me i'll call you anything you want right i'll call you a fucking anything i'll call you a fucking fucking President Eisenhower if you want. I don't give a shit.
I don't give a fuck. Doesn't matter to me.
You're it. Kermit the Frog.
Great. Please don't kill me.
He asked her, he got a Bible out, and asked her to swear on the Bible that he was Laura. So she said, sure.
Okay. Then he holds the gun on her and tells her to get up, get undressed, and get in the bath.
I don't like this. No.
So he does. She does that as instructed at gunpoint.
She takes a bath. He then leads her back into the bedroom and may or made her lie down on her stomach.
Okay. Okay.
Um, his plan was to take her to a campsite in the woods and he told her he was going to quote, introduce you to hadn't. Oh boy.
He bound her wrists with duct tape and her ankles, then turned her over and started covering her mouth with duct tape. But he just got so into it, he just kept wrapping it around her head, around her eyes and her nose and just her whole head.
She couldn't breathe and suffocated. What the fuck? So he said, fuck.
She's laying there still. He started taking the tape off her face with a pair of scissors and his hand, he said, slipped and he stabbed her in the neck and then blood started coming out.
So he rather than go, what do I do? He started looking down at her neck and became fascinated with her earrings and took them like those earrings. So he had a hard time getting the second one off.
So he just got a pair of scissors and snipped off her earlobe with the scissor, with the earring on it. He then sat by her bed and just stared at her new dead body for an hour.
Oh boy. Um, at times he said he touched, touched her breasts, but said that he, um, neither raped her or practiced cannibalism on her remains.
So at three in the morning, he wrapped her body in a queen-size sheet, threw her over his shoulder, and put her in a narrow bed underneath the cap of the rear of his truck. Okay, that's his bed that he sleeps on.
He then went back inside, gathered up the bloody evidence, the sheet, the mattress pad, the pillowcase, carried him outside along with Laura's high school ring, a crystal uniform, and some other, our unicorn, some knickknacks from her room, and some other personal shit he put in his pocket. Then he laid down and slept in her bed inside.
Left the house at eight in the morning. He was wearing a woman's, wearing the whole wig and carrying the purse.
A housekeeper standing with a child waiting for a school bus would later tell the police she thought that was Laura headed out to her job. Because Laura's about six feet tall.
She's a real tall girl yeah big gal so they just thought it was laura going to work um instead he got in his truck drove two blocks to the parking lot of a nearby church backed his truck into a corner of the lot and went to sleep again next to her dead body in the back of the truck he's very sleepy well he's got a lot of he's all tuckered the thing. He's got to go and do a lot.
It's wild that he brought a gun and then just so personally didn't do anything with it. I don't think that's how he meant to kill her.
I think he meant to kill her in a different way and accidentally duct taped her too much and went, oh shit, I broke it. He's like a kid who was trying to keep a fucking fly in a jar and then ripped a wing off and was like, oh, no, now what? So the next morning while he slept, Laura's employer is calling the house, getting the answering machine.
She's never not. She's never did a no call, no show.
So they think it's odd. So they send someone to the house to look around.
That's how dependable she is. They send someone out there.
This was a friend of hers. She rang the doorbell, got no answer.
She called Laura's brother and started calling her friends. And so everyone said, oh, we'll look around for her.
Her brother Warren decided to walk the route that Laura takes to the bus stop that she would use to go to work. He walked down the street.
And as he walked down the street, he saw Haddon Clark driving toward them in his pickup truck. He was planning on coming back to the house to steal more, but now everybody's there.
Oh, my God. So Warren waved him down because he knew he was the gardener and was like, hey, do you know any of you see my sister around anywhere? And hadn't said, you know, he pulled over and the guy said, hey, have you seen my sister? And as he's asking, he just guns it and takes off.
His answers to questions are always wrong. They're always wrong.
He could have just said no and then drove away. Nope, I don't know.
I haven't been around. That would have been easy.
So officer chase him, obviously. Fuck.
So he decided I better bury her because they're looking for her. Yeah.
So he stumbled with her, gets off to a spot on the I-270 just across the highway from his campsite. And he drops her about 20 feet from the road, digs a hole, digs a shallow grave, puts her in it, covers a body with dirt and leaves.
In the months to come, though, animals are going to find this and they dig her up and they get into the remains quite a bit. And also, later on, we'll find her wrists and lower extremities would rise above the ground from heavy rains washing her hair away.
So, he's nervous. That's fucking horrifying.
So he drives north toward New England here. In Rhode Island, he stops and stuffs the bloody sheets, mattress pad, and the items he stole from Laura in a self-storage locker that he rented yearly.

He keeps the pillowcase for himself, though.

What?

It's a trophy.

It's a trophy because it's got blood on it.

Yeah.

So he drove back to Washington thinking he did a pretty good job. The cops in Maryland want to talk to him, though, because Warren and Penny both mentioned his name when his description was phoned in the headquarters.
They went, oh, wasn't this the guy who we thought killed that little girl? Same area, 10 miles away. So they said that to Penny, and Penny said Haddon wouldn't hurt anyone he's just a gardener it's not him he didn't hurt anybody she's a psychotherapist this woman like right she should know better no she wants the best of people so the cops here they go i don't think so so they remembered him vomiting in the bathroom and having you know only getting off because of that alibi right and uh And the one guy said, Haddon Clark, absolutely.
Let's go. Let's get him.
That son of a bitch got away once. This is the cop on the phone.
Let's go fucking get him. He said that, you know, we'll wait till tomorrow, basically.
Treating him like OJ stealing his shit. Not this time.
Not this time, motherfucker. So Haddon drove down to the same church parking lot near Penny and Laura's house.

He went into his truck, found the bloody pillowcase, ran into some woods that bordered the church,

threw the pillowcase near the base of a tree, went back to his truck, and he fell asleep.

So, by the way, at the scene of the crime at the house, they found a butcher knife on the kitchen counter.

Her bed looked like it was scrubbed clean.

It did show traces of a large amount of blood covering almost the entire mattress, though, on there. So they talked to him.
A detective, Ed Tarny, sits him down and said, have you seen Laura? He said, quote, I'm so scared and started crying. Not the right response.
It worked once before. Yeah, maybe that'll work.
So they said, hey, there's nothing to be afraid of. And then Haddon got down on one knee and said, oh, God, I just want to die.
I thought he was going to propose. You're the only person for me, detective.
They said he was wearing a T-shirt, jeans, and a woolen sailor's cap. They asked him whether he thought Laura was pretty.
He said he hadn't paid much attention to her. When they asked, just throw a question out.
He goes, what'd you do with her? He pulled the cap down over his face and refused to talk anymore. He said, going inside now.
I can't see you. Like the from fat albert yeah except with no eye holes yeah we can and you're still there man an eight-year-old would do that right yeah an eight-year-old would go i'm gonna hide now you can't see me so the detective said we didn't know what we had at that point we knew we had a nut but was this head case smart enough to hide her body and clean up the crime scene? We just didn't know if he was that sophisticated.
So they let him go. Really? Because they have no evidence.
They just have, he's acting weird. So that's interesting.
Yeah, at one point they get him back. He's escorted by the head of a local homeless group named Sue Snyder.
And the cops were gentle because they had nothing to arrest

him on and he's got somebody with him. He had an alibi for everything except for the time Laura was

killed. He said, well, it was the middle of the night you're saying, so I was sleeping.
He left

the station and began crying and the Sue Snyder lady asked him why he was crying and he said,

I feel so bad for Penny and Warren. So when Laura never turned up ever, the local cops did a complete

So, The lady asked him why he was crying, and he said, I feel so bad for Penny and Warren. So when Laura never turned up ever, the local cops did a complete search of the area.
A dog from the canine unit led them into the woods near Penny's house that bordered the church. There they turned up one of Penny's bras, a woman's blouse, a high-heeled shoe, and the bloody pillowcase.
Taken to a lab, they determined it's the same blood type as Laura. Then they notice there is a single fingerprint on the blood.
Oh? Yeah. So they haul in Haddon again while they're testing this.
And he says as he's being hauled in, I'm just a homeless man. I don't have any friends.
I'll be jobless after this too. And they said, we found a pillowcase in the woods.
It had a fingerprint it the print is yours they don't know whose it is yet they haven't tested it's being tested uh but they were hoping that maybe he would do something he began whimpering and crying that's not the answer he they said what did you do with her and she said he said i don't remember bad answer oh bad answer But you know what they had to do? They still let him go. Yeah, because they don't have anything.
They don't have anything. So they had nothing to hold him on.
Then they used search warrants. They examined his bank accounts, found a copy of the check that said Laura on it.
They also located his campsite and searched it but didn't find Laura. The next Sunday, he attended church.
In the collection plate, he left a note that said, Hadn't I, Clark, homeless? Is life really worth living anymore, or is it time to commit suicide? That's in the collection plate. He also sends the family, Penny and the rest of the family, a sympathy card that reads, just please give me a call when you're ready to do some gardening again.
Also, I can bring you bagels on Friday, too. He's offering to pick up fucking bagels.
He's like, I'll make a bagel run. Wow, that is fucking wild, man.
So the police obviously match up the fingerprints, and he's arrested on October 22, 1992 for murder. They saw him.
They peeked through the windows of the truck cap. He's inside when they arrested him.
He's asleep hugging a teddy bear. Is that right? He's fucking eight, man.
He's an eight-year-old pervert. Something's super wrong.
So they arrested him. They told him, you're under the arrest for murder of Laura.
And he said, okay. That's all he said.
Didn't fight. Didn't do anything.
They took him in a room. And they watched him through a one-way mirror.
He looked around. They let him keep his teddy bear in there.
Yeah. At one point, he's in there alone with the teddy bear it's sitting on the table he leaned over and says to the teddy bear quote not getting out of this one and then sits back to the teddy bear he said that and it said in the boston accent let me handle this pal it's I'm just kidding.
Got any weed? Got any weed or whatever over here? Come on.

So,

yeah, that is fucking crazy.

Thunder buddy.

He didn't confess, but during

questioning, they said he lapsed into

voices an infant, a woman,

and a man who said they were

said to look for, quote,

them in New Jersey.

So they looked through one of his

boyhood neighborhoods in Warren, New Jersey, but found nothing. So this is obviously a huge deal in this area.
People freak out. It's crazy.
One of the spokesmen for the Montgomery County Township Police Department said two brothers. Isn't that incredible? No shit.
It's not it's not that incredible i mean it makes sense they said it's very odd to have brothers involved in capital murders on two coasts of the country that doesn't happen too often yeah being separate separated together yeah yeah um then another an officer with the montgomery county police department said he has a glare uh he at you with that just sends chills down your spine. Everybody compared him to Hannibal Lecter.
That's what they all compared him to because they knew he ate somebody too later on. Wow.
So, yeah, he's going to go to jail here. By the way, his brother at the time is in Tracy, California in prison where he's a model prisoner dabbling in Judaism at the time.
Really? And is eligible for parole in 2002, which, spoiler alert, he doesn't get. You're not getting out.
He cooked a woman's tit. You're not getting out on first parole.
Well, I thought about the error of my ways, and I thought, you know, barbecue sauce would be a better way to go about that next time. You charbroiled a titty, man.
It's not happening. It's like, I realized pork is a better thing, the more normal thing to cook on the grill.
So neighbors said they remember him as being a little bit weird. One neighbor said, I just remember him snapping and getting angry.
Then you just kind of walked away and he would calm down. That's what everybody would say.
Here, another guy who grew up with him said that he remembered him being quiet and a little slow. But they remembered at one point Mrs.
Clark, Flavia, trying to stop a snowplow from clearing the street so her four children could sled.

That's what mom is like. Overbearing? What is that? I will stop.
No one can drive on the street because I want my kids to sled on it. It's crazy selfish.
I'll change the entire day of everybody for my children to be able to run around. So they bring bloodhounds and find no trace of Laura here.
the two dogs searched a square mile of woods here in Warren to try to find the scent of Laura here. The two dogs, Sherlock and Buford, which are very good bloodhound names.
Yeah. Sherlock, because you're sniffing him.
And a bloodhound just looks like a Buford. And also, they look like they would wear a Sherlock Holmes hat.
Yeah, that's what, yeah. Well, it's like best in show when he's talking about.
Yeah. What's that dog's name? Is that dog's name Buford? Are they from Buford? I don't know.
No, they're from Pine Nut, whatever. Pine Nut.
Will you stop naming nuts? I love that. What if you just put like a little pipe and maybe a hat on there? Is that allowed? I don't know if props are allowed.
So they did all this shit and they're looking for. The dogs were given pieces of clothing belonging to both the victim and the assailant and couldn't find it.
They said passage of time in rainy weather made it difficult there. So they keep bringing these dogs.
They're not finding anything. Wow.
January 1993, a letter arrives to police. It's a hand-drawn map transmitted by fax machine arriving at the police station in Wellfleet, Massachusetts.
It depicted a cemetery in Wellfleet. It had been found in a pickup truck in Maryland that belonged to Haddon Clark.
This is one of the things they found in his truck. The detective in Maryland sent it up there.
He had spent summers in this area at his grandparents' house. Eating oysters.
Eating all sorts of shit. So on the map here, in the area where his father and grandparents were buried in the cemetery, he drew an X.
The Maryland detective asked the Wellfleet police if they could see whether anything seemed out of the ordinary in the vicinity of the X. Halora's body was not found there though.
They said they drove down the road and the cemetery came to the grounds by some oak trees where the Clarks have their graves. They said it was cold getting dark right in front of the grave marked Haddon Clark Sr.
It was clear the earth had been disturbed. So they called the state police

and they said there might be a body buried in the

cemetery, to which they said, listen, let me

tell you something, buddy. There's a lot.
There's a

few.

The next day, they arrived with

a dog that had been trained to find cadavers.

They said, we're in the cemetery and the officer

starts rubbing the dog.

She says, you want to go to work?

That's a way to confuse the fuck out of that poor thing find it find it find a fresher one one that's not in a box got anything newer buford well they they're also looking at uh they're also sniffing that her belongings also i think so she said go to work and find it the dog runs back and forth nobody points him in any direction and anything like that. But in about 30 seconds, he's by the disturbed piece of ground and digging furiously.
Oh, my God. So they call the police from Maryland.
They arrive and they said, we get shovels and dig up the spot. And me and the Massachusetts State Police and the detectives from Maryland and nothing's there.
They said they dig a little more. Still nothing.
They said, it's winter. It's cold.
It's damp. We're standing around a hole in the ground looking at each other shaking our heads.
He said I know now what happened. I know most of it happened anyway but for eight years I didn't know anything.
Okay. We'll get to this.
Now in jail this is before his trial is about to start. An inmate at the detention center where he's being held told police Clark had been sitting at a picnic table in the yard one day while people were playing volleyball.
The ball rolled over toward him. They asked him to throw it back, but he didn't.
He was sitting with his head in his hands and crying and saying, I shouldn't have killed her. I shouldn't have killed her.
Oh, my God. Not good.
No. So the day before the trial is set to start, he decides to plead guilty instead.

So he pleads guilty to second-degree murder of Laura.

And the sentencing is, you, sir, may fuck off 30 years in prison.

That's a long time.

For that.

Okay, 30 years.

Now, within days of his sentencing, his lawyers go to the prosecutors and and said he's ready to tell you where the body is really yeah uh he buried the body in rockville next to bethesda in woods near a highway exit ramp so with his dad's grave no it wasn't there i don't he must have been doing he did something else there who knows that would have absolutely crazy. If he buried a body on top of his dad.
I mean, I know the mob would bury bodies under other bodies, but not on top of. That's crazy.
So when he's in prison now, he's boasting of as many murders. He's telling inmates details about how he killed Michelle, Doerr, Laura, and others.

Now, obviously, they're not real big fans of child killers in prison here.

And also, if you inform on a guy, you can get early parole.

So you mix all that together.

There's a guy named Lou Luciano.

Hey, Louie.

He's a former Baltimore-based FBI agent.

And he's done a lot of murder-for-hire cases, armed car robberies, kidnappings, homicides, but he said this case was different. When he's in prison, Haddon hung meat from his cell ceiling to let it rot, drew coloring book-like caricatures of his victims, and believed his white-bearded cellmate was Jesus was Jesus actual Jesus and we'll talk about that you have a cellmate and you're hanging meat in here yes what the fuck and he's so crazy no one does anything this Luciano guy said you're dealing with multiple personalities a guy eating moldy pork patties he's a killer he's a soulless individual behind those eyes there nothing.
And he was the guy holding the cards because he had a pretty good idea where the bodies were. This guy conducted hours long interrogations with Haddon who attributed his murders not to himself but to a persona he has named Kristen E.
Bluefin. Oh boy.
That's my alter ego who I kill people. That's who kills people.
Not me, it's Kristen. Kristen from my mother.
From my mother who called him Kristen. Isn't that fucked up? God damn.
I'm surprised his middle name isn't retard. Yeah.
Kristen retard bluefin. So he said, this Luciano said, there'd be times when we spent seven, eight, nine hours with him and he's talking about his alter egos.
He's showing us his drawings. He's talking about people he killed.
He's giving information up. Some of it we could corroborate and knew about.
Some of it he was playing us. So he said that he signed his name Kristen and claimed that Kristen was a mean bitch, ate raw flesh, and loved hiding stuff.
He's a mean bitch. That mean bitch, that Kristen.
As Haddon started to demonstrate that his more forceful personality and more prolific personality was this woman, he began to become her more in the moment. He would shift back and forth.
I think Kristen was probably his wall or his shield. Yeah.
Yeah. The drawings.
Okay. I'll show you all of them at the end or most of them, but I'm going to show you one here.
That's pretty creepy. He said, his drawings are mostly women in landscapes maps.
They all, they almost look like postcards. Wish you were here so I could kill you.
He said, I'm featured in some of it, but it's always wide eyed girls with blue eyes. And it is, here is one of them my God.
I don't like that at all. No.
Are they the creepiest? They're so innocent and so fucking creepy because they're so innocent. I hate it.
They're really similar to the BTK drawings. Yeah.
And we'll talk about that. Very rudimentary.
Very childlike. Childlike.
Quality of drawing. The way he does just his lines look a lot like BTK, though.
That's how BTK would draw the slick ad people and do all that shit. I don't like the part that he gave them to.
No, they have like a fucking bald part, like a 40s man part that's been parted on the side too long. Hitler youth shit.
So, wow. During one of the interviews, Luciano asked him for a picture of Kristen, and he handed over a drawing of a blonde woman with big blue eyes.
Now, it resembled FBI special agent Desiree Smith, the guy said. When they brought it to her, they brought her in to help, Haddon gave her the picture and smiled and said, you're Kristen.
Oh, boy. They were like, whoa.
And after that, he really opened up. Because he's like, oh.
You're here. You're here.
Okay. September 23rd, 1998, they talked to him about Michelle Dorr.
Okay, they bring him into an interrogation room.

They let him sit by himself.

He starts making a series of gestures and sometimes makes,

and he also, that he says are American sign language,

but they're not.

He makes like, yeah.

He made up his own sign language,

and he sang a song in there.

Lyrics.

That never indicates guilt. Nope.
L lyrics are as such he's still working on me to make me what i ought to be took him just a week to make the moon and the stars sun and the earth and jupiter and mars how loving and patient he must be he's still working on me there really ought to be a sign upon my heart don't judge her yet there's an unfinished part songs in there, man. Throwing her in there.
Oh, boy. This is the one that's appeared in all the newspaper articles and everything.
They said, do you know who she is? And he said, yep. Yep.
And now in one of his storage lockers, the police had found a collection of tools that his landlord said that they stole from him. Now, they showed him the pictures of the tools and asked if he could identify

them.

And he said,

that's mine.

I got that from my grandfather's workshop.

That's mine.

I got it when I was in high school.

There was,

there was an old vice that came out of my grandfather's shop up in Wellfleet.

He used these tools to tune pianos.

They showed him a collection of Chinese coins.

And he said,

money,

my coin collection. And they said, you speak Chinese? And he said, yup.
Yeah. They said, you speak Chinese? And he said, yeah.
And he said, yup. Then they said, you speak Chinese? And he goes, yup, I speak German.
No, no, no. That's not what we asked.
They said, you speak Chinese. And then he took a big pause and he said, I don't speak Chinese.
But I listen to Chinese music. I listen to a lot of different types of music.
I listen to Chinese music. I listen to Mexican music too.
Caribbean. I like Caribbean music too.
Oh, boy. Great.
What the fuck are you talking about? This is not going well. An hour goes by.
they place a document several pages long in front of him with a warrant charging him with the murder yeah the other detectives asked if he wanted some coffee he said he did the guy went to get it they knew clark would talk to himself so they wanted to see what he would say he turned the pages of the warrant read them all stopped and went oh well let's guess i'm fucked yeah he took the picture of michelle from the wall and put it face down on the table then sat with his elbows on his knees and clasped clasped his hands and said oh well going to court as he slowly read through the pages he rubbed his chin and he said oh well i'm the rockville rocket the rockville rocket that's me what then he said this could be a bunch of bullshit to try to break me he spread his elbows on the table put his head down on the warrant with such force that they opened the door and asked him if he was all right whack like bang yeah then he calmly folded the warrant up, put it in his pocket, and sat there and waited for his coffee.

Now, the behavioral science unit here from the FBI, that's who these people are with, obviously.

Detective Tarney, who'd pursued him for years, said that, you know, the Maryland police took him to the FBI, the Mindhunter people, to see what the fuck's up.

This is what the cop said.

Quote, they took one look at him and told us,

you've got your hands full, never seen anyone like him before.

They went to, think about that.

They went to fucking Holden, and he went, beats the shit out of me.

That's a crazy one.

Fuck off.

I don't know.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

We shine dark in our light into the darkness.'t can't illuminate this one nope so 1999 he's in court again for he's tried for stealing from that family that he stole tools from and shit and he's found guilty and receives another you sir may fuck off 10 years in prison consecutive then they try him for the Michelle Doerr murder.

And he doesn't plead to this either. This is a at the trial.
His defense attorneys tried to point the finger at this girl's father. Who's fucking guilty enough as it is.
And but several fellow inmates tested to fight against him like multiple inmates were like, oh, yeah, he tells us all about this shit. so during the trial, he would rock back and forth in his chair and sometimes break into songs about Jesus.
OK. He's found guilty, obviously.
Still working on me. Working on me.
It's catchy. And he receives, you, sir, may fuck off again.
30 more years to the other one. Okay.
Okay. That's 60, but really 30.
It's consecutive, though, right? Yeah, but they're eligible for parole in 15, I think. January 2000.
I've got to hurry up here. We're running late.
January 2000, he confesses to Jesus. Not at church or to a deity of any kind.
He has a cellmate with a white beard that he thinks is Jesus. He literally thinks he's Jesus.
His name is Jack Truitt. He's in on a 50-year sentence for murder.
He's not Jesus. No, that's a big one.
News for you, not Jesus. Or he rose and really took it out on you.
He really fucked up, man. So this Jack Truitt, I'll just call him Jesus from now on.
Jesus recalled the rancid smell coming from this man's cell. He said inside Haddon's locker, he had saved 15 cartons of milk.
He said he would save them. It's hot.
He just let them swell up. It was just rancid, man.
I'd say to him, why do you do that? He told me it reminds me of decaying bodies. When Haddon started confessing to Jack because he thought it was Jesus, Jack was like, this is from Luciano, Jack was like, man, this guy's talking about killing killing, gutting and cannibalizing little kids and cutting the throats of women.
So Luciano said Jack did this at great risk being locked up in a correctional institution. Calling the police can make a very bad entry to your health record while you'll be while you're behind bars.
But Jack picked up the phone and made that call. So they asked Jesus what what Kristen is like.
Have you met Kristen? He said, the whole demeanor to me changes when he's Kristen. When you talk to Haddon, sometimes he'll bow his head and talk with his eyes closed and constantly fiddle with his watch.
He's kind of slow and a little retarded. Yeah.
Everybody notices Kristen is Kristen. Kristen is smart and evil.

That's what's weird.

When he switches personalities, he's 32 fucking points higher IQ. That's what's fucked up.
It's weird. You can see there's nothing behind the eyes with Kristen.
It's unnerving. I can easily visualize him in a car dressed in women's clothes with a butcher knife riding the roads looking for a victim so during this here um wow uh they talk about a second female personality emerges now okay kristin's daughter nicole oh no uh the jesus said quote she is i'm estimating about 14 or 15.
She's a pretty evil, pretty nasty person, a smart little kid with an attitude. She was mad because she felt the police were disrespecting her mother.
When she'd stop and go to the bathroom, they'd take her to the men's bathroom and she'd get mad. On the way to Wellfleet, he got into a dispute with the detective and tried to bite him.
This is Haddon. The detective said, Clark goes through these tirades.
The night before we went to find Michelle Dorr, he didn't eat, got lethargic, and he just got comatose on everybody. It's just like an exorcism he goes through.
This is what Jesus said here. The tirades are a result of a conflict between Haddon and Kristen.
They're fighting inside. Oh, eternally, there's a battle in there.
Jesus said, quote, when we went to get Michelle Dorr, Haddon's in the holding area and he won't talk to us. He's down on his knees beating his head against the wall and talking in a crazy language.
He was in turmoil. We didn't know it, but the problem was that Kristen told him not to tell anyone where Michelle was buried.
So Clark began telling the detectives he wanted to die. He thought that it was a good day to die.
So this guy, the detective said he held Clark's head in his lap for 20 miles in the car. He laid on his lap like a child.
Then Clark tried to scratch him out of nowhere he says like a cat it's like a sketchy cat like i was scratching and biting yeah fuck i pet him three times he bit me like the first two the next day the detective said he rode from jail with a couple fbi agents and he tried that stuff and they tuned him up real cute we brought him back and he's sporting this big black eye the fbi just kicked the shit out of him. They didn't care.
Like you bite me, I'll beat your ass back here. So Clark and Jesus and the detectives went with several.
That was the thing he said to I won't do it unless Jesus can come. I'll show you where the body is if Jesus can come.
So then this other murder fucking guy, this murderer has to go on this trip. Yeah.
Wow. So they said that Clark changed at the station.

He said he wouldn't do it.

He had to be dressed in women's clothes with Jesus next to him.

Then he'd do it.

So he said Clark changed at the station.

A red wig, gray cotton blouse, sort of a pullover tan skirt with a pattern.

I'm tempted to use the term Paisley, but I think I'm wrong.

That's from a detective who doesn't know anything about women's clothing. Paisley's the bandanas sir you can say you fucked it all up or that those 90s ties yeah he told uh the detective he placed an old box spring over her then covered her with dirt the dogs worked for several hours without finding anything one of the dog handlers took clark aside and said to clear his head from all the people standing around being a distraction.
He said he was about 10 or 20 feet from me talking to the dog handler about what time of day it had been when he buried Michelle and where the sun had been. I looked down and saw a wire sticking up and started pulling it.
It looked to be about the size of a child's bed. I said, Haddon, is this it? He came over, looked around at the trees and landmarks.
Then he got down on his knees and started pawing at the ground like a dog. Oh, Jesus.
Yep. So that's where that's where she was.
They found her there. Now, Jesus told the cops that if he wanted to discuss Clark's crimes, he had to address him as Kristen.
Yeah. And this guy said, when Clark finally called me, he's this, this person's talking saying, uh, hello, is this Hadner Kristen? He said, who do you want? I can get them for you.
I'll put them on. Well, I have some questions for Kristen.
Is she around? He paused and said, this is Kristen. What do you want? Oh boy.
I asked Clark if you would describe what happened to Sarah prior. He said, okay, that's the little girl we know, nine-year-old.
Okay, that was 85 in the fall, an Indian summer kind of day. I was on my way to the area for Maryland to see my father.
He lived in Sudbury, the town next door. My father was seeing another woman then.
I think my mom and dad were divorced at the time. I just got out of the military.
Things weren't going so good for me. I got to the house and he wasn't there.
I had plans to help him move some things. I drove all the way to help him move some stuff and stuff, and he didn't show up.
It's canceled. Big deal, but it's very frustrating to drive all that way.
And it's canceled. I was on my way home.
I forget what route I came through Wayland. I asked this girl about directions.
I was acting like I was lost. I already felt I was going to kill something.
I don't know what makes me feel that way. I know I have a problem.
If I'm doing these things, I must have a problem, but no one gives me any help. Something makes me mad and I take my anger out on anything.
You get in my way, it's like a tornado. So I sort of lured her into the car, pulled her in, took her to a field.
One thing led to another. I told her I wanted her mom, not her, and she didn't tell me where she was.
I left her in the field then, covered up, and went to one of those stores to get plastic bags. I came back, put her in the bags.
It was late in the afternoon. The only thing I left behind was her head.
I dropped it just like I dropped the pillowcase in Maryland by mistake. He just lost a head.
I headed back to Maryland.

I knew the pillowcase in Maryland by mistake. He just lost a head.
I headed back to Maryland. I knew the rest area where I could pull over and hide it and get it when I came back up.
I think it was Rhode Island. I sort of buried it, put stuff around it so no animal can get to it, rocks.
It wasn't a permanent grave site. I had already planned on going to Wellfleet to bury her at my grandfather's place.
I wasn't worried about anybody finding her before I got back. I never had anybody find anything I didn't want them to find.
That is so much information. He didn't forget a thing.
No, he knows it. In 1997, a piece of bone small enough to fit in the palm of a hand turned up in a field in the town of Wayland.
The fragment turned out to be a piece of Sarah Pryor's skull. And those are the only remains of her that have ever been found is one bone fragment from her skull.
Oh my God, that's so fucked. That's so fucked, man.
So yes, he takes them all around trying to find different things. Then they talk about other murders besides those two little girls that he killed and everything else.
One is a woman he said he met in Vermont in 1975 or 6 and drove to Wellfleet and killed her and buried her on his grandfather's property. Her body was not found.
He also says he killed a woman who's buried in Provincetown Cemetery under a marker that says unidentified female body found Race Point Dunes July 26, 74. He said that's his.
That's a lot to remember. Yes, that's, well, that's what she's, that's her marker.
Oh, okay. Because they found her in the dunes and somebody buried her.
In the newspaper story, she's referred to as the lady in the dunes. He said, in 1974, I was vacationing on Cape Cod at my grandfather's and I went into one of my episodes.
I was in Provincetown and I came across a beautiful girl. I lured her into the dunes.
I smacked her in the head with one of my surf casting poles. And then after she was unconscious, I had killed her, removed all her clothes, folded them neatly, put them under her body, and I did some things with her body.
Yikes. I folded up her clothes real nicely and I cut off her hands and stuffed her arms into the sand like she was doing push-ups.
Then I took her... Wow.
Then I took her hands and put them in her purse like a beach bag. I cut off a couple of her fingers and used them for fishing bait.
I buried her hands in a different place. I didn't bury her because I was making a statement.
I don't know why I was doing it. Maybe if you were a trained psychologist you could tell me.
I wanted her to be found. Yeah, I want answers if you give them to me.
Wow, that is fucking crazy. So Jesus has gone to all these places and everything.
Yeah. So December 15th, 2000, shortly before Christmas, he tells Jesus what he had buried in the Wellfleet Cemetery and drawn and that had drawn the cadaver dogs was the body of a little girl named Sarah.
He also drew a map of some woods in Silver Spring where he said he had buried Michelle Dorr, which is where they found it. Jesus told his wife what Clark has said, and she called a state trooper she knew, and that's how this whole thing fucking happened.
They end up digging up. They go to this grave site there.
They dig up a bucket that he described to Jesus. It was two feet below ground.
Attached to it was a shred of plastic, which had torn loose from a plastic bag. The bucket contained 230 pieces of jewelry, valuable bracelets, earrings, little bead chokers strung on rubber bands like kids wear.
One of the items was a brooch with a winged female figure reclining against a blanket. Television reporters called it the angel of death.
He said he wore that when he killed someone. That was his killing brooch.
He said someone else must have given it that name because he sure didn't, but he said the brooch belonged to a girl named Debbie whose car broke down in Pennsylvania during the 70s. He gave her a ride, and she kept asking to drive his car, and he got annoyed, so he killed killed her and buried her also in the bucket were a ring and a watch that penny later recognized as having belonged to her daughter 200 pieces of women's jewelry dude he stole this this is all of his trophies yeah these are his trophies um wow he claimed they all came from victims what near the that's crazy so 2000s they find the bathing suit that Michelle Dorr was wearing in a wooded area near a playground.
With the help of Haddon and Jesus. He's currently serving two consecutive prison terms at the Eastern State Correctional Facility in Maryland.
However, you know, Luciano says if you're comfortable with this guy living in your basement or renting a room from you, then you put him on parole. Because I don't know if he's getting parole.
No. In prison, he occupies himself by reading the Bible.
He's often given to attributing quotations to it that aren't there. This is great.
He will say, like it says in the Bible, ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. That part's not in the Bible.

Like it says in the Bible, fuck around and find out, you know?

You know what I'm saying?

As it says in the Bible, a penny saves, a penny earned.

I mean, that's just how it is.

Clichés and made up clichés and attributed.

He said at one point, like father, like son.

You ever read the Bible? Oh, they just misdiagnosed him.

The man's not retarded.

He's just dangerous.

He's just insane.

He's fucking insane.

He plays chess by correspondence with people whose names he gets from chess magazines.

What?

Plays with other prisoners, too.

And he says if he feels they're cheating, he cheats, too. Michael Bay made a documentary about him.
That Michael Bay. Which is incredible because there's that whole story, almost three hours.
Did you hear one explosion? No. Transformers, man? No explosions at all.
Called Born Evil. Oh, it's explosive.
I'll tell you that. Oh, man.
Jesus. There's also a guy named John F.
George wrote a book called Knowing Haddon, My Correspondence with the Cross-Dressing Cannibal. That is available in paperback only on Amazon.
There is also Born Evil, The True Story of Cannibalism and Serial Murder. That is available.
That's by Adrian Havel. That's some good information from the story came from that.
Got to give that credit. There's that.
I guess Havel interviewed and corresponded with Haddon Clark more than a dozen times for the account. The only names they change out of anything are Jeffrey Clark's kids because who cares? And then there's his art.
Okay, Jimmy, let's look at some of his art. First of all, you can buy one of his letters.
It's serialkillersinc.net for $30. I feel like you could probably write to him, and he'll write the fuck back.
Oh, yeah, he needs, look, here's the one you saw that's creepy. Here's another creepy one.
That's really good on the coffee cup. That person's face is fucked up.
It's so fucked. Look at the nose.
The fuck, the face, face yeah the face is the nose is a ball bag yeah it's like peter griffin's chin it's like and he he writes things on him he writes coffee like it's almost like an ad for coffee and it says circle the s hands over and under each other several times and he has like people doing sign language in all of these Here is a dog. It's a little girl.
It's always little girls. He's got an amazing rendition of one of the fucking Dalmatians.
That's beautiful. And it says pat the side of the leg, then snap the fingers.
I guess that's how you make a dog do stuff. And it's a very nice, it looks like a Disney dog.
Yeah, it's a Dalmatian. Very Disney-ish.
Here, this one, it's a picture of actual someone with a cat, a woman with a cat, and it says, love cat. And it has another drawing here and it says, Reagan Revord love cats.
Revord. Revord.
He writes like Stevie. Yeah.
Reagan loves cats. Catfish love frogs.
Marijuana. There's a weed leaf and like making a smoking gesture with this little girl that says, using the F hand, make the motion as if you are smoking a marijuana joint.
That's the sign language for that in his mind. Library.
The right L hand is a circle. That's a library.
Look at how creepy they are. That looks a lot like Laura, by the way.
They all have their eyes are either too far apart or crooked. Look at the same girl he draws.
Yeah. That's Michelle.
Ball bag nose. That's Michelle that he's drawing.
And that is Laura, because if you see a picture of Laura, it just looks like her. Here's another one.
Circle the A hand toward the body alternately several times. TV and acting.
My favorite actor is Clint Eastwood, but I have plenty of actresses I really like. Demi Moore, Michael Learned, Mary Beth McDonough, and quite a few others.
That's what he writes. Quite a few.
Home. It says Los Angeles up there.
That's for Reagan Reverd. Home is in Los Angeles.
What's this Reagan? Who is Reagan Reverd? Must have been the chick with the cat. Yeah.
Onion. Onions make some people cry.
And it's that same little girl with tears coming down her face there. Then there's a picture of Garfield that just looks traced.
Yeah, he didn't draw it. He just colored it.
That looks like a coloring book picture. It's Garfield on a skateboard with a backwards hat.
I don't get that. Then there's a frog here.
Again, that looks like a colored frog, but it sits on top of her head. Of a girl that he drew.
For some reason. Candy.
Okay. He's got M&M's, like a Photoshopped M&M's on there.
Lightning. Lightning has got that.
Money.

The girl is always the same.

Yep, the girl is exactly the same.

How is he seeing new money?

Look at that.

That's the new bills.

Those are new bills. There you go, everybody.

That is Haddon Clark.

And like I said, top 10 crazy in the history of this show, obviously.

This guy is fucking nuts.

And the world.

And the world.

Yeah, I'm sure there's crazier people, but I haven't heard of them. So we'll get through the end of this show obviously this guy is fucking nuts and the world and the world yeah i'm sure

there's crazier people but i haven't heard of them so uh we will get through the end of this

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That is Jason's brother, right? Abel Martinez, right? Is it Jason Bourne? Yeah. Sandals with no last name.
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That's vile. Yeah, it does.
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Stroh like the beer. Kachina Cameron Jacobson.
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