#541 - Death, Love & OnlyFans - Calera, Alabama

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Here we go. We're going all the way to Alabama.
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This is Calera, Alabama. How do you spell that? C-A-L-E-R-A.
Calera, Alabama. Almost like the disease.
It's Calera, Alabama. Let's go, everybody.
Any other Oregon Trail ailments here? Dysentery, Georgia, are we heading to next week? So cholera, Alabama. It's in central Alabama.
And this, by the way, if you're going, this sounds familiar. We did this case for the virtual live show.
So we do the virtual live shows like every six months. That was a while ago.
Six months later, we'll do it as a regular show because, you know what, it's a story that we have done already already so i'm not going to just throw it away we're doing and it's we pick great stories for live shows so it's a good one here uh central alabama it's about 35 minutes to birmingham go up there it's about three hours and 15 minutes to chinchula alabama oh boy which was the last alabama one before this which was bargain bin bundy oh yeah if you remember. And then we did another Alabama, but that's another story.
So this is in Shelby County. Okay.
And the motto here, wow, they're pushing hard to the rack here. The heart of the heart of Dixie.
Oh. The heart of the heart.
So you see there's a heart. But right there in the middle of that, that's the heart.
We're the left ventricle of the heart of that don't have this doesn't have the same yeah i don't it doesn't doesn't zing with the page right it's too many syllables uh what aortas maybe it's a heart thing i'm looking in this book it's none of the valve of the heart no no that don't sound good nobody likes v's in there that doesn't work heart of the heart of that doesn't work. Heart of the heart of Dixie.
That perfect. Heart of the heart.
Heart of the heart of Dixie. So it is Dixie through and through here.
Incorporated in 1893, Calera gets its name from the Spanish word that means limestone. Oh, does it? I suppose so.
Or it did in 1893. The town was known as Lime Kiln Station before it was incorporated.

And then they said, well, that sounds like.

It sounds gross.

That sounds like a filthy industrial shithole.

Let's change that name.

That sounds smoky.

Lime Kiln Station does not sound good.

That's like when they give them names and numbers.

Yeah.

Like some of them were like this town was called like Area 62, Space 5.

Quadrant 38.

Before it was called, you know called Pleasant Town or some shit.

You're like, okay, that's weird.

The location was in the heart of the lime-producing area of the state.

Didn't know.

One of the largest chemical lime-producing areas in the United States.

Oh, it makes that? Yeah, who the hell, who thinks, where do they make chemical lime at?

Unless you're trying to get rid of a body quickly, you'd really have no need to even think about it. Oh, boy.
So it was established, this county in 1818, and the county was named for a Revolutionary War hero, and the first governor of Kentucky, Isaac Shelby, and the first courthouse was built of logs. Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Fucking logs. You bet.
They Lincoln-logged that first courthouse. How's that? It was initially housed in an old school building, which was a log building.
And then they built a brick courthouse in 1884. Good move.
Yeah, that's a good move. Because as we know, everything in this country burned down from like 1885 to 1930.
So they had to rebuild it. It's now known as the Old Shelby Courthouseouse and it houses the shelby county museum and archives yeah and the current limestone courthouse was built from 1905 to 1906 at a cost of 300 000 then what a deal which is like wow a lot of money so much money that's for taking 1905 it's the gdp of our country how the hell did they afford that 300 grand how did they get 300 grand in a small county back then that's wild that's a big bank loan wow uh shelby county has a long history in agriculture since about 1990 it's become a big location for growing soybeans oh so there you go okay soybeans reviews of this town we've never been there yeah the hell do we know about it? I'm not going.
I don't plan on it anytime soon.

No, probably not.

Five stars.

Seems out of the way.

I have no reason to go there.

I don't think we're going to do a live show in Calera.

I'm not flying over it even.

No, down there.

It's crossing over it much.

Five stars.

Small town.

Nice people.

Love that.

Easy to find everything.

Clean.

Is it? Clean. Yeah.
It better be. There's nobody here.
Starting to build it up more and more. They are building more houses, places to eat, and things to do.
Anything you need can be found in the city. Easy access to the interstate or even back roads to get to nearby cities.
I'll stay off of those. Thank you.
I've seen my cousin Vinny, and I will not have a repeat of that. This town is like a plaid skirt.
Easy access. Easy access.
Four stars. The crime in my city isn't bad.
We'll be the judge of that. I think we have the stats and you don't.
James is more thorough. We got this.
It's pretty rare when something bad happens here. If there is a problem, the police comes when they aren't busy.
Do they? When they aren't busy?

We're busy now.

Yeah, my son just stabbed my husband.

We're busy.

The police, they will comes when they're not busy.

If they don't have other stuff going on.

Also, never put if there's a problem in anything, because I'll always say, check out the hook while my while my dj well at least they didn't say they'd solve it yeah that's that helps they didn't say they'd solve it but every by the way every single word yeah has a capitalized first letter in this so they had that right they didn't just do all caps every single word. Wow.
It's the weirdest fucking, I've never seen it before. If there's a problem.
Yo, I'll solve it. It's weirder like that, right? It's much weirder like that.
That's nuts. Yeah, it's like lyrics.
It's strange. I don't know why they would present them like that, and there's no spaces after the periods.
Anyway. And the cops comes.
They comes. they'll comes if they're not too busy that's awesome three stars yeah i don't know much about this area okay how about you learn a little before you make a review then what do you do it why would you go i'm gonna make a review of this i don't know very much about it why'd you wait on all those sounds your computer was making and should i give it three star five stars well i don't know too much about one star well i can't i don't know too much we'll just go three we'll just play it right down the middle just in case play it real safe uh two stars for late night food and drinks there is one bar and the restaurants close early the one bar is very small and crowded i bet it is crowded if there's only one of them what's it called j? Jesus.
No plug? They're not telling us. Come on, man.
They want to keep it. You kidding me? It's crowded already.
No many more people. I'm not telling anybody about the paper tiger.
Fuck. One star, like living in Mayberry, police are very crooked.
They don't know how to handle new people. New people that come in.
Do the police handle that? Apparently. When you come into town, handle you apparently how long you've been shit cheap built houses everywhere and nothing is open past 10 p.m they only have five stores that is tough or as the other person put it anything you need can be found in this city before 10 p.m before 10 p.m they're not out late much.
People in this town, 16,126.

So that's actually a decent-sized town.

It's 35 minutes from Birmingham, so that makes sense.

So it's like driving distance to Nashville.

There's a nice little area that's a little secluded, a little out of the way, a little peace and quiet.

A little questionable.

A little questionable, yeah.

A little dangerous for guys like me, probably. I don't like it.
You may be more ethnic than Toby Keith. Yeah, it's a little questionable a little questionable yeah i don't think a little a little dangerous for guys like me probably i don't like it you may be more ethnic than toby yeah it's a little bit yeah that's that's the scale i feel like more ethnic than toby keith means stay off this back road uh population 16 126 there's way more females than males like over 52 for some reason uh 32.4 is the median age.
So young, yeah. So low.
Yeah, that's very young. I think maybe the college being close by.
Young children are all above average, and 25 to 44 are above average. So they're fucking and having young children.
It's pretty obvious what's happening here. 56% married.
All, like, the divorce rate's lower. The married or single with children is lower.
It's kind of a family area here. Race of this town, 65.6% white, 27.9% black, 0.9% Asian, 3% Hispanic.
Religion here, a lot of religion, 70.7% religious. And Baptist, 51% Baptist.
As we know, baptists are the catholics of the south that's number one gonna be everywhere number one every week with a bullet unemployment rate here very low it's under three percent that's great which is extremely that's actually not great when it's dangerous when it gets down that low then they don't can't find people for to do shit at that point it's important it's weird yeah apparently you want like a four like economically and the balance you are for means that't find people to do shit at that point. Got to import them.
It's weird, yeah. Apparently you want like a four, like economically in the balance.

A four means that there's people to – I mean, it sucks for that four.

Yeah, it's not going well for them. Yeah, for everybody else I guess it's good.

Median household income here is $70,500.

They're doing well.

About $1,000 more than the national average.

So that's fine.

Everything's great there.

Cost of living here, $100 is average. Here it is $ 100.1.
Right around there, yeah. On the money there.
And we find that housing is actually the low thing here. Really? That's what's cheap.
Median home cost, $228,100. That's unbelievable.
That's not bad, and they're doing well with their finances. So not too shabby here.
And if you agree, and you need come here, we have for you, if you want to be done with all your shopping by 10 p.m., we have for you the Calera, Alabama Real Estate Report. The average two-bedroom rental here goes for $1,260, which is about the average.
And anytime there's a college anywhere near anything, rent prices are way up because that's all everybody's doing. Here's a three-bedroom, one-bath, 1,344-square-foot house.
It's not bad. It says, Attention Home Hunters on the listing in all capital letters here.
It's nestled near a limestone park and Oak Mountain State Park. What do you do with the limestone park? I don't know.
Just look at the lime. Scrape your knees.
That's dusty and weird. Bunch of kids leaving with scraped elbows.
I don't understand that. Perfect for families.
It boasts a water heater less than a year old. Oh, the house does.
The house does, not the park. It's perfect for families because the water heater works.
Yeah, you can take a bath. So a backyard shed and a front storm shelter for safety.
Yeah. 0.75 acres.
Not a bad house. 99,000 bucks.
99 grand. Three bedroom, 1,350 square feet.
That's like a trip in time. That's what I paid for my first house that was that size.
In 2001? Yeah. Three.
2003. Wow.
Here's a four bedroom, three bath. 2,556 square feet.
It's built in 2016 so it is pretty new. It's interesting though.
They staged it. Obviously had someone stage it.
No one lives set up like a hotel lobby. No one lives like that.
It's weird. No one puts fresh lilies out on a daily basis.
I don't think. Where do you throw your bags when you walk in the door? Exactly.
So it's a little bit weird here, but it's interesting. It's $310,000.
How many square feet? $25,56. That's pretty good.
Four bedroom, three three bath that's not bad yeah but it's

very cookie cutter yeah it's you can make it your own for that money you gotta want to live in a cookie cutter neighborhood to have that uh this one here four bedroom four bath tea ball that's for each and every b hole out there 3,050 square feet on two acres fucking what it's lovely yeah This this house is absolutely has been redone to the specifications of 2023 hgtb like and white they just yeah they just want barn doors they watch somebody barn door to somebody redo a house and they were like fuck yeah that's all there is to it move that boss that's it and it's uh in five years it'll look like shit everyone will go Yeah Yeah, five years, somebody's going to walk in and go, Why all the gray? Why all the gray? A lot of photoshopped things in here, too. They photoshopped a Pac-Man arcade machine in here for some reason.
Which is an interesting choice. If I go into a house and I expect a Pac-Man machine And it's not there? You better have a fucking Pac-Man machine is all I'm saying.
I don't have some questions. Especially for $724,900.
That machine's about $800. Just get it and put it in the house.
But you know what? It's just been reduced. It's been slashed.
$699,900, baby. It's a bargain.
Get on in there. And then finally, things to do.
Here we go. The third annual crawfish boil.
Yep. Let's get boiling.
I don't get it. I love a crawfish.
Oh, boy. Oh, they're so good.
Pop those tails off. It feels like a lot of work.
It's not. You pop the tail off.
You pull it out. You suck the thing.
You suck the body out. How much meat is it? In the tail? A little bit of meat.
You eat like 50 of them. They're great.
That feels like. It's a whole thing.
You get a pile, and it's fun, and you rip them apart, and you get them, and you get them and you eat them and there's potatoes it's fucking good geez man am i more southern than you here on this what's going on feels like a slaughter for nothing that's great they're they're fucking river roaches who cares slaughter them they're great they're delicious i love them i made them at the river uh they're great and just ate the claws cracked those up. That's the one thing you don't eat.
Is that right? I cracked them. I cracked them.
They're too tiny. Yeah, you just pop the tail.
Yeah? You pop the tail. Yeah, it is.
They are. There's not a lot of meat in the claw.
No. Nobody does that.
You pop the tail, pull the meat out, and then suck on the body. And then you get all the juice out, like the seasoning that you've done.
And then you throw it away. Huh.
The whole thing, throw it away. Yeah, they're good.
We had a big boil over the summer, man. We weren't here for it.
Son of a bitch. I can't believe it.
This year, there's local vendors, fun and games, live music that they're not going to tell us about because it's so good. Yeah.
I love that. So brag about it.
Yeah. The fan of the mystery guest.
Yeah. Well, it's presented by the sponsor, ERA King Real Estate.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're saying, come on down.
They say they invite you to our third annual crawfish. Well, that sounds festive, the era real estate people.
Also, the Strawberry Festival and Car Show. Yeah, why not? Let's mix those together.
Have a strawberry shake and lean over my 67 Camaro. How many years did the organizers have separate festivals and like,

it's got to be the strawberry festival drawing people away from us and vice versa.

To where they finally said, you know what?

Like two warring mob families.

We could share this neighborhood.

What do you say?

Bill brought that fucking hot ass Nova out of his garage.

Nobody's going to come get shortcake.

He's got a 69 challenger. His wife's got the shortcake.
This place is fucking great. It's my favorite.
It says there's nothing like biting into a sweet and juicy strawberry. Strawberries are wonderful.
They are pretty legit. And you add some festive music and a dash of outdoor family fun, and you've got a recipe for a good time there, Charlie.
It doesn't say Charlie, but i'm calling you charlie a little bit of some beach boys surfboard on the top of a volkswagen let's do it kokomo on loop it's not even old beach boy the 80s beach boys we're all sober beach boys we don't even manson who beach yep those are the ones Our drummer's dead, Beach Boys. Manson who, Beach Boys? Those are the ones.
Our drummer's dead, Beach Boys. The one who hung out with Manson drowned.
Don't worry, Beach Boys. Everything's fine.
Poor Denny. Denny was a mess.
They're supposed to be. It was a messy time.
They're rock stars. It'd be a mess.
It's the 60s. You're supposed to be.
Invite a gaggle of hippies over to your house and have them take over.

Who cares?

That's great.

So they said that the Strawberry Festival will feature all of the above.

Well, that's good.

At least they weren't telling us things and then go, now we'll have some of that stuff,

but not all of it.

All of the above.

In addition to strawberry vendors, attendees will find food trucks, a car show, a kid zone,

and plenty of live music.

Sure.

Who's the live music from? Who is it? Local high school bands and choirs no oh that's gonna be great as well as guest musicians automatic slim blues band that's automatic slim automatic slim blues band that's a whole right but is it automatic slim blues band or is it automatic slim blues no no automatic slim blues band four words yeah but i don't know where the emphasis is supposed to i don't think you're supposed to i don't think we're supposed to know where the emphasis is supposed to be well you know what yeah their emphasis is from 12 to 2 p.m there you go so if you're in if you're a performer and you're your fucking call time is like pre-noon you're not doing. I'll tell you that right now.
High noon is when you start? And then the headliners will be the headliners is the name of the band with a Z, the headliners. They have to go on.
They go on at three, of course. I mean, they won't go on before two.
That's the thing that comes with that. It's the 11th time they're doing this and the event planners hope to make it the biggest one yet sure tyler madison who runs this joint says we're trying to make it the biggest it's ever been just come on out and have some fun do do what tyler says just come on out and have some fun he's not even trying to i'm not i'm not gonna sell it to you anymore just just come on out okay eat a fucking strawberry what do you want make it big then he says it's a free-for-all festival festival for the community which he means it's free for all right it makes it sound like people are just brawling in the streets throwing strawberries at each other wrestlemania of the old town yeah slamming each other on classic car hoods and shit hell yeah uh festival the strawberry festival will be a cupcake eating contest oh featuring cupcakes provided by the local bakery creations galore and shit.
Hell yeah. The Strawberry Festival will be a cupcake eating contest featuring cupcakes provided by the local bakery Creations Galore and more.
Sure. So you gotta have that, obviously.
And there's the whole schedule here of everything. Enjoy a day with family and friends.
Vendors will be selling foods, arts, crafts, produce, and of course, strawberries. Obviously.
That fucking better be. Then there's a a kid zone where they claim to include a princess character meet and greet,

face painting, balloon art, inflatables.

These are all things you can promise.

And unicorn rides.

I'm calling you out on that, sir.

Where's your unicorn?

Show me a picture.

You have a pony with a fucking horn strap to his head.

You glued a corn cob to that thing's face there's a leather strap around its chin you're not even fooling children with that i don't think unless you hammered it into this poor horse's face they might have made one and you need to be arrested made me a unicorn here he is staple it to its head wow it says enjoy a plethora of baked goods, such as cake pops, while perusing the handmade crafts, clothing, and jewelry displayed from various vendors and vintage boutiques. It's also a swap meet.
Yeah. It's every festival in America.
That's all of them. So that said, crime rate.
Here we go. What we are interested in here.
Property crime is slightly above average. Oh.
So there's more. More than you think.
Maybe these cops don't come. I was going to say nobody comes is the problem.
That's the issue. Violent crime though, murder, rape, robbery, and of course assault.
You'd expect that to be low at least. Right about average.
What in the fuck is going on? I don't know what's happening here but these people seem to be they seem very happy and were crime free and if there is a problem which there never is, apparently there is. is more than.
That's why they didn't solve it. I think so.
Maybe they should have checked out the hook. Yeah.
Get that DJ revolving. That's what I mean.
That's the problem. I don't think anybody realized what's happening here.
Yeah. That guy just stopped it.
If there's a problem, he didn't do anything else. Nothing else.
So that said, let's talk about a murder here and some wild shit here. Let's start out hot.
January 13th, 2018. Yeah.
There is a young lady named Makorsha Purifoy. Hell yeah.
That's a handle, boy. That's Makorsha Purifoy.
I'm glad you're saddled with that burden. I don't want that one.
They're both hard to say. Yeah.
It's one of your names, but when both are hard to say, your brain goes, oh, no, what do I do? It panics. I'm not in the right place.
Your brain's set to pronounce one name. And you're like, oh, God, both of those are hard.
I don't know what to do. Two nightmares.
Did I leave the country? Yeah. That's why I'm lucky my parents didn't name me after their grandfathers and i'm not gaetano biagio petrigallo that would have been people's head would fucking explode at least james are like all right i understand that one yeah so now she's 19 years old sure and she is headed out she's uh she lives on this in this suburban neighborhood and she is headed out to go to her work at a fast food restaurant.
What one? Don't know. We don't know.
Not important at all. But she's going out to sling French fries in one way or the other.
I assume maybe it's that one. What is the one Alabama one we did? Oh, where the fries, you got to eat them in the car.
You got to eat them in the car. Was it, fuck, was it checkers? I don't know.
I don't remember. I don't think so.
I want to eat them wherever that was because the fries sounded really good. Yeah.
You don't eat them in the car. Otherwise, they're trash.
They're trash. I love all the Alabama where people were like, she's full of shit.
Because nobody waits to eat them fries. They were like so vocal.
Yeah. Ain't no way she's telling the truth.
We got so many messages and everything. That lady's lying because you do not wait to eat those French fries.

And it was like, not even like a joke thing.

They were all dead serious.

Like, when you get those French fries, you eat them right away.

That lady is lying.

Put her in prison.

It's the most, does your kitchen cook grits quicker than anyone else?

It's the most damning circumstantial evidence in the history of murder down there. It was wild.
Are you or we don't believe that your stove cooks grits faster than any other place on the planet? That boiling water soaks into a grit faster on your stove than on any other place on the planet. Love that.
So boiling water soaks into a grit. So McCorsha says, it was dark, it was cold.
I wasn't sure like what I was seeing. That's January.
Right. In northern Alabama, January gets cold.
In the south, just in general. It's cold.
It gets cold. They have fucking ice storms.
That's crazy. The weather is horrible down there.
It's shit. In the summer, it's 100 degrees and humid, and it's fucking, and it's cold as shit in the winter.
It's just shit. It's hot and shitty.
It's the worst weather in the country. My dad lived in North Carolina, and I'm like, when is it nice out? Never.
It went from freezing to fucking humid, sweating, my ball stuck to my leg in a day. Four seasons of it'll all kill you.
It's crazy. It's insane down there.
So, yeah, the weather gets rough down there. So I guess she, this is before dawn.
This is pre-dawn. Oh boy.
And she is driving, going to fast food. God, Jesus, leaving your house pre-dawn to go make fucking hash browns.
It's freezing. Oh God, Jesus, that's rough.
And she says she spotted something in the road. Yeah.
She said, I think I see a person laying in the road. Uh-huh.
That's what she said. She was on the phone.
She called her mom and said, I think I see something. Well person laying in the road that's what she said she was on the phone she called her mom and said i think i see something well halfway in the road she didn't know so rather than you know pulling up and checking it out she went back home to get her parents circle back get mom she doesn't want to go check this out by herself which i don't blame her she's it could be somebody who's uh you know playing a trick and she's they're gonna jump up and kidnap her you don't know.
That's smart. So she's like, she goes home and gets her dad and her mom.
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And takes them and they return to the scene to try to check this out.

And we'll return to them later.

We'll circle back.

So right now there's a family standing over what's possibly a person lying in the road.

After circling back, we will circle back.

We will circle back.

And let us introduce some people here. Okay.
Let's talk about Kathleen Dawn Martin. Okay.
Now, she'll go by Cat West. Hell yeah.
As West will be her married name later on. And Cat is short for Kathleen.
Pretty sick name. And that's her kind of internet personality is Cat West.
So friends of hers say she's very extroverted. Always.
She was born in 1975, by the way. And she's very extroverted.
And they said she's always the life of the party. They said she has an online personality that we'll talk about later.
But sure, it's kind of like her regular personality, too. And it's weird because a lot of people, a lot of articles talk about how she's led a double life.
Oh. But it's like not a double life at all.
It's an out-in-the-open life. It's very strange how they act like she was like.
They act like the husband and kids went to bed, and then she grabbed a miniskirt and went out on the street and gave $20 blowjobs. That's what they act like it was.
And no one knew about it. That's how they act like it was.
So you heard snoring in the house and it's just like blowjob time. Like one of those suburban prostitution rings where all the mothers are like, we're bored.
I don't think that ever happens in real life. But in movies, that's always a thing.
We're like eight attractive 35-year-old ladies who are just tired of going to soccer practice. Yeah, they have kids in the fourth grade together and they're like, you guys want fuck for money we should right we should totally do it and then they just get together and do it it's a weird slice one more fucking orange on i can't do it can't do it anymore saturday afternoon the goddamn alabama football game's on i can't do it i'm not doing it i just want to blow a stranger for for money i don't need that's all i to do.
Yeah. That's all that happens.
I've seen like six movies where that's a plot. It's like, how is that a plot? For walking around money.
Yeah. Just feel like doing it.
I know it happened once in real life. Did it really? Yeah, there was a real thing that that happened and they've made like it happens everywhere now.
What a dream. That's amazing.
Oh, wow.

So that's her friend.

That's Kat's friend, Brittany, that says she's very extroverted.

Life of the party.

She said Kat would get on stages and sing.

She couldn't sing for the life of her, but she was saying she would sing as she was proud of who she was.

Now, that's the type of and that's the advantage of being a very like a hot woman.

Yeah.

You can have no singing ability.

You get up there and people are like, yeah.

Give it hell, girl.

Yeah.

Whereas us, they'd be like, okay, fucker, get off the fucking, come on.

Jesus Christ.

Are you going to sing the second verse too?

No, no.

You already did one.

Get out.

He's not doing Freebird.

No, it's long.

No.

Give him like an Ace of Base song. Is that the intro to november rain you son of a bitch no scenes from italian restaurant no i'm sorry he's gonna air guitar slashes part fucking a he's gonna air piano billy joel solo and i won't have it so as a kid her mom nancy said she loved to be outside that was.
She liked to go out. She said that was her big deal.
She had a swing set. Yeah.
So she liked to be outside in the swing set. She likes to be like, seems like physically active.
Doing things, yeah. She likes to move around and do things.
Yeah. And later on, we'll find out when she gets drunk, she gets really active.
Really? Yeah. When I get drunk, I'm like, you know, we laugh, I'll walk around a little bit, but

I'm not like, hey, let's go play basketball.

Like, that's not...

I'll throw up.

Yeah, she goes on a trampoline when she gets shit-faced.

Oh, I will for sure throw up.

You are tempting fate right there.

Honestly.

That is brutal.

How good was that drink?

You're going to taste it again.

Imagine we went and, like what we did at the steakhouse there, imagine we had like three

martinis and then jumped on a trampoline.

We were throwing up anyway.

Never mind.

And before you call us wusses, they were really strong.

Thank you. what we did at the steakhouse there.
Imagine we had like three martinis and then jumped on a trampoline. We were throwing up anyway.
Never mind. Before you call us wusses, they were really strong.
That's a lot. It was just basically like glasses of vodka with a fucking olive in it at this place that we go.
They think they're doing us a favor. Yeah, they're like, oh, you're going to like this one.
It's just a shitload of vodka, a splash of olive juice, and then a couple olives on a stick. It's crazy.
So we leave drinking like fucking 16 ounces of vodka a piece, and we're like, I don't feel so good. I had martinis.
Why do I feel like I drank a quart of vodka? I had three drinks, but wow, I don't seem so nice right now. That's how we were, though.
We were a mess. Yeah, I shouldn't have eaten all that food.
That's how we were. I need more food.
I didn't have enough. Yeah, Jesus, I think I got to put more food on top of that.
So Kat's parents are Nancy and John Martin. And they say when she was in Florida, that's when she grew up in Florida, they say she doted on her dolls all the time.
Like a mom would. like some little girls are really maternal with their dolls.
They want the dolls that shit and they have to feed and everything which is strange. I don't know if it's just a boy thing or just the fact that I'm lazy but I didn't really want to, I didn't want any doll that needed to be tended to.
Like a wrestling figure, you just stand it there. It doesn't shit itself.
You don't have to feed it. And he's good until you want to wrestle him.
That's it. He'll hang out.
You can throw him in the closet. He won't cry and shit.
None of that. And you can get one, and he'll be patient until you get the Iron Sheik to wrestle with him.
He'll get there. Nikolai Volkoff will patiently await his tag team partner.
It's fine. No one's worried about it.
So, yeah, they said that and they they said she wanted to be a mom someday yeah her dad said when she got a bit older she wanted to do modeling sure and she she has a real kind of marilyn monroe obsession yeah from a young age she's real into marilyn monroe and there's there's women who are real into marilyn monroe and women who don't give a shit about Marilyn Monroe. Yeah, I don't think there's much in the middle of that.
There's not in the middle. No, they're either like, oh, I don't like her, or they're like, oh, my God, she's the most iconic, whatever the fuck.
So wherever you fall, it doesn't matter. A lot of people just go, yeah, she's a person.
She's fine, yeah. Now, her friend, Brittany, says she kind of looked like her, and she tries to recreate some of her photos and her hairdos.
And a lot of her pictures, she has like that updo, the blonde, like platinum blonde, bright red lipstick. Yeah, titties out.
Boobs popping, that sort of thing. And she tries to like replicate.
So it's like some of her clothing is like that she'll wear. It's like it's that kind of early 60s kind of like that kind of dress cut not the pinup girl show no no no the pinup girl shit's different okay the pinup girl shit is a completely different not necessarily rockabilly stuff no pinup girl is like more like hanging in a motorcycle shop or some shit whereas this is more like yeah this is more like um that early 60s kind of classy attempt at whatever.
White and black stripes, that shit. That type of shit, or like the little flowy skirt, that type of shit.
Less grease under the fingernails than a pinup girl. A little more gidget on the beach.
A pinup girl looks like she'd jerk you off and your dick would be dirty when it was over. You'd be like, what'd you get on there? You know what I mean? That's not like that.
I think I prefer that. That's fine.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying.
Filthy's great. I'm just saying that's what she's not Marilyn Monroe.
It's a different thing. I kind of want to scrub my balls and go, is that 10W30? What is that? Yeah.
No, the Maryland girls look like they would be like, ew. Yeah.
That's grease. Not grease.
Ew. Something came out.
It is grease. Whereas I feel like the rockabilly girl is like, where are you going to put it? She just rubs it on her face.
She don't have to shoot it up. Where are you putting it? Put it in my hand.
Where do you want me to aim it, I feel like? Up or down? Put it in my hand. I'll put it where it goes.
Oh, don't worry about it. Yeah.
So she's into Marilyn now. Her friend said she was obsessed with Marilyn Monroe and tried to emulate her in every way.
And her pictures were definitely like that. And her friend said, and this is not shocking, when you have the two, here's two statements that she made.
And one definitely piggybacks the other.

She was obsessed with Marilyn Monroe and was trying to emulate her in every way.

There were some self-esteem issues there with her,

which there were some self-esteem issues with Marilyn too.

So that makes a lot of sense.

She craved adulation, adulation from people, whether she knew them or what is that she wanted that's every person online now yeah yeah yeah that's instagram fuck shit that's that's that's instagram full of it like let me ask you this if instagram tomorrow uh-huh uh didn't show likes or follower counts would you even bother posting on it if i didn't know who i'm reaching no no fuck i mean i'm out there you go and they tell you why you're there then the only reason i'm in there is because of the show and i want to be able to try to advertise as much as i can or show that you know people are going to see that the show's up whether they whether whatever but just that's all it's for yeah i don't understand somebody with 20 fucking followers posting everything about their life. That I don't get.
That's why they have 20 followers because no one cares about their life. It's not interesting to people at all.
No one cares about. But that website is full of those people.
No, that's what I mean. So that's just what we've all, I'm not taking shots.
Is it a lottery that the dream is that that shit creates a fucking fucking two million follower account yeah i mean i think the dream for everybody is that they that can be their job now yeah you know what i mean how many people bought a fucking van and tried to drive around in the sierra nevadas or whatever as a you know it's like that was we're gonna be instagram people now somebody just said there was a study. 12 million quote unquote influencers are on Instagram.
I still don't know. What's the fucking definition? What does that mean? Yeah, I don't know.
What's the low end? What's the fucking floor of followers for an influencer? Yeah, yeah. I mean, everybody thinks they're an influencer.
So who knows? God damn it. So the dad said, you tell her she's beautiful and she'd say, you're just my mom and dad.
Yeah, She doesn't believe anybody. No.
So she's and she's very pretty and needs to be told it a lot. That's the thing.
Yeah. She needs to.
She needs it. Her parents said her feelings of isolation and self-doubt and depression would spiral out of control because she was so, you know, freaked out about everything.
Her mom said, I don't know how many different places we took her. She went to a lot of counseling.
Really? Yeah. I mean, the parents are doing the right thing.
Yeah. Number one, they're there.
They're paying attention. And there's counseling involved.
They're telling her, hey, you're beautiful. And then they're saying, okay, that doesn't work.
Let's take you to counseling. I mean, that's really, and especially for back then, because she was born in 75.
Yeah. So she's a teenager, like 1990.
Yeah. At that point, it was like, you know, fix your shit.

It was more like there was less counseling

and more like tough love at that time and shit like that.

Like your kid just needs a discipline.

That's what they need.

But I mean, that person has existed since the dawn of time.

Remember summer rental?

The chick got that hot chick with the amazing tits

and she's showing them to everybody.

And the husband's like, just tell her they're nice because it's all she wants to hear.

That person exists everywhere.

Always.

Marilyn Monroe was that person.

I mean, that's...

And she got it.

Everybody told her and she still didn't get it.

She fucking married several famous people and it was a huge movie star and was iconic and everything else. Fucked the president i mean fuck the president which i mean what's that word i guess you can do that at any time now yeah or for the last i think ever really yeah yeah you could have i don't think fucking the president was as big an accomplishment as people thought it was much of a task now that we know what people did back in the day and forever we're like i think these guys just fucked whoever was around.
Seems like it's pretty easy. Her parents said she was battling bipolar disorder and drinking too much.
Oh. So those two things don't go together well.
No. That's bad.
Self-medicating for bipolar with alcohol just tends to extend the depression times, which isn't good at all. She's just taking a willy-nilly medication for depression or was it like prescribed no she was not she's just drinking that's what i mean she had bipolar and she was drinking oh no she's so she's unmedicated and drinking so it's kind of kind of tough for her but she's starting to get her shit together by about 2004 she's 29 yeah is when her life kind of comes together through her her 20s, she really had a lot of problems.
I mean, she was just a lot of depression problems, drinking problems, some issues that her parents were trying to help her out with. Very normal, though, right? In your 20s? In your 20s to try to not know who you are and find yourself? That's the time.
That's the time to do it. That's the time to unravel and then unravel back up again.
Yeah, yeah. The 30s are supposed to be your 20s with money.
Figure out your 20s. Well, your 30s.
Who the hell makes money in their 30s anymore? Supposed to be. If you've gone to college.
Oh, you meant if you're like a responsible person. Not us.
Okay. Thank you.
I thought you meant, I was thinking like people like us. You thought us trash? No.
No, not trash. We didn't have shit.
So this happened at a 2004 Super Bowl party here. And that's where she met a guy that she was smitten for here.
He's a guy named William Jeffrey West. And he goes by Jeff.
So Jeff West. Billy Jeff.
Billy Jeff West. Jeff West, which sounds like an old West sheriff.
I'm Jeff West and I'm going to clean this town up. Batman's son.
Jeff West. This is my son, Jeff.
I'm sorry, Robin, but we're going to put you on the shelf for a while. We're going to put Jeff in there.
Adam West is like, his voice is just like a little straighter Goldblum.

Kind of, yeah, yeah.

Goldblum is a little more flamboyant.

That's all it is.

Well, Goldblum has more of a, he has more of like.

Pause and draw now.

He has like a walk-in thing once in a while.

Where he's like, so I was walking to the store.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

He'll pop that out in there.

And then he'll drag a word out forever.

Yeah.

And then a long pause and then hits you with a word for no reason. And then he'll talk a really fast sentence like this.
Yeah. God, he's a wild card.
So I was thinking. He's really his.
I was thinking. It's all it is with him.
It's change of pace. He's like a pitcher who's one fastball is 96 and the next one is 92.
He's hard to hit. That's what I mean.
He's good like that. I throw another fastball.
Yeah. It's crazy.
He throws it in there. There you go.
He just figured out Jeff Goldblum. That's Jeff Goldblum.
That's his whole thing that he does. So now Nancy, that's Kat's mom, said they fell in love on their first date.
Is that? Well, Jesus. Somebody did.
I guess so. Can't do both, right? It was really love at first sight.
She said it really was. For all of us a year they're getting married god damn i mean they like met i guess they're both like 32 i think it's one of those things where also you make we're looking for someone so you meet a smoke show that doesn't know she's a smoke show you better marry her oh she knows she's a smoke show oh yeah that's why she yeah yes that's she just needs it she needs it that's what i mean if you put your if you take sexy pictures of yourself and put them on Instagram, it's not because you think you're ugly.
You know. Or put them on OnlyFans.
Even more, you want people to pay for it. Right.
It's not because you think you're ugly. You know what I mean? Instagram, you're giving it away for free.
Yeah. And that person even knows.
I think maybe her thing is like, I'm tired of everyone wanting to fuck me and not wanting to be with me might be the thing of her. So Jeff West is a local army recruiter at the time when they meet.
So he's a military guy and kind of a straight laced kind of a cat. And they get married in Las Vegas.
There we go. Going to have that.
In 2005, they are going to have a daughter as well here named Lola. So they're going to move around the country with Jeff's job.
Like an Army recruiting, if you're successful, that just means you're going to really move a lot. They're going to just put you in wherever they need you.
So that's a tough gig. Yeah, if you're good for it, they want you in every state getting more and more of these boys.
I would assume if you're a recruiter, you want to stay in the mediocre range so you can kind of say, hey, let's not get too good here.

If you like the school your kids are in, just dial it down a little bit.

Let a couple of fish go.

Yeah, you definitely, you don't want to be a superstar in this scenario.

Throw a couple back.

Hey, good.

Now we're going to move you to a terrible place where we can't get anybody to join the Army even.

Have you heard of Fargo?

That's where you're going.

So they move all around with the daughter.

Her friend, Kat's friend, said Lola was her light, Lola was her gift, and she adored her daughter.

Yeah.

Which, I mean, she's always wanted a baby.

So this is like, finally, and she's like 30 years old, too.

It's a good time for her to have a baby, I would think.

2005?

2005. Yeah, that's when they had the kid, huh? that's an interesting time to name a kid lola lola that was early l-o-l-a lola yeah yeah that's why they or maybe late oh yeah that's she's born in 75 her parents listen to classic rock on the radio she's heard that song a million times quite a bit and it's stuck in her head and she's like yeah but i mean like that's a popular name now uh it is which is lila and lola both of them but i think i think she got in early that's very early yeah 2005 so 2007 comes along yeah and they end up filing for bankruptcy oh no while living in cartersville georgia which in 2007 there was quite a few people filing for bankruptcy if they weren't they were just giving shit back and blowing up their whole lives just giving shit back like i did with a house yeah here you go you can have this back luckily the mortgage company we had was like under a huge investigation oh that's great fuck you take that back and never heard another word about it didn't fuck my credit or anything is that right swear to God.
I short-sailed one and it fucked me for seven years. No, the mortgage company was like completely being taken apart by the federal government because they did all sorts of illegal shit so they couldn't like do anything.
Wow. It's like the loans were all like not technically legal, I guess, or whatever.
So we were just like, you can have that. Peace out.
They took my house, fucked my credit, and then there was a HELOC that they didn't satisfy before giving the money to the- This is entertaining. The podcast right here.
Jimmy's HELOC. This is real.
This is what the people want to hear. This is what they want to hear.
If you ever listen to a murder podcast, I hope someone brings up their HELOC. Ah, that's great.
I was just going to say they washed it because they didn't have the paperwork for it. Because it was in 2008 when they gave it to me.
Oh, it's just a mess. So they didn't have the paperwork.
So they called me and were like, we have to forgive this. And I was like, that's great.
Sounds good. Thanks.
I used that to buy a motorcycle. Whoops.
Good. I didn't have it to give you anyway.
Thank you. So, yeah, they go in.
They do the same thing. 2007, Cartersville, Georgia.
They go bankrupt. And the case is handled very routinely.
It's closed within months. At that point, this was very common.
Bankruptcies were popping left and right. So they end up, at some point here, they move to Southern California.
Okay. And this is in 2011.
They live here. Sure.
They move to Southern California. And I guess her friend Brittany Driesler, the one who's been talking about her, I guess her husband was thinking of enlisting in the Army.
Oh, I know a guy. I don't know how old he is.
I know a guy that could use him. Yeah.
My, like, 37-year-old husband doesn't know what to do with himself. So, well, he's not really our top.
Perhaps his credit's fucked and he can't get a job. That's what I'm thinking.
I don't want soldiers that are like, if you've been in the army, but you can't just show up at 37. Yeah.
You're going to, your knees are going to hurt the fuck out of here. What's wrong with you? You've got a HELOC to worry about.
You got all sorts of shit going on. I got a mortgage.
what i mean no at least no i don't want that no showing up all complaining yeah 37 year olds that's when it starts to fall apart yeah absolutely not you can't sleep in the shit that they give them to sleep in it's gonna hurt you're gonna need a special pillow because your neck's messed up they don't give you that there's a bombing and you got to go out and yeah with it it takes me a minute to stretch. You got to be 19 or else it doesn't work.

So anyway, that's at the recruiting station.

Brittany said that Jeff West basically convinced her husband right away to join the army.

Yeah, that's it.

And they said Brittany said her first impression of Jeff.

He was just super reassuring and nice.

He was just nice.

And so this is how they met. This wasn't Kat's friend to begin with.
Her husband, she walked in with her husband in a recruiting station, met him. They hit it off.
So Jeff invited them over to hang out. Bring your wife.
Come on and hang out. Yeah.
And so they came over to the house. Kat answered the door.
Sure. And they have a baby, and she's dressed up nice, and it looks like the perfect little family.
Wow. Brittany said that she was just in her tank top and shorts and really happy and bubbly.
Hey, girl. Right off the bat, she was like, you want a drink? Yeah.
This is the house you want to go to. This is so fun.
You walk in, and they're putting drinks in your hand. Yeah.
That's good stuff here. Brittany said they look like a real happy couple.
They said those kind of like they were an unlikely couple. Yeah.
Basically. And yeah, she put it this way.
If she's a nine, he's about a five and a half. So it's one of those straight laced military and straight laced military.
So they're like, this is a weird. How did you two get together? He's not rich or anything like what's up with that? Brittany said, quote, seeing how Kat carried herself and what she looked like and then seeing Jeff.
And she takes a pause and goes, I know opposites attract. Which means, I mean, she's he's a troll is what she said.
He doesn't deserve her. She said, put a horn on his head and call him a unicorn and the kids could ride him at the fucking strawberry festival.
Staple it to his scalp. Because he's a monster.
Wow. He's a hideous monster, she said.
She said, I know opposites attract, but I was like, that guy pulled that girl? Hmm. Yeah.
She said, you never know. It really never made sense to me until i started to get to know them more oh i mean it was to the point where you go that's your wife holy shit where'd you get her from yeah which you know that's swinging a little bit above his weight class say there i mean good for him but also that's stressful it is big yeah we can we're not good at handling that guys we need someone that we feel like is in our range.
Yes.

Oh, believe me. I can appreciate an incredibly hot woman, but I know that that's not for me.
Yeah. You look at that and you go, there's- Ah, good for whoever gets to ride that ride.
It's like basketball players are trying to fuck her. I have no much of a chance here here so well that look i just know that i'm beneath the minimum height requirement for that ride that's all yeah every time i see it i just go oh i can't wait till one day i grow up yeah that's that's yeah well those it's to hang on to that yeah just like a woman like that is hard yeah and it's um not a lot of guys have the confidence for that especially if they're hide hideous.
And if you can manage that, fucking high five, daddy-o.

But most of the time, you're either very handsome or very wealthy.

Yeah.

So for a guy who's not very handsome or very wealthy, he has got some fucking confidence.

He must have a hammer on him, boy. And, you know, that's the other option.

I don't know what kind of confidence it is on this guy.

It's confidence, looks, money, hammer.

Probably in that order. Confidence confidence looks money hammer probably in that order I'm going to say.
Goldblum answered you. Yes he did.
I think it's in that order. I think it's in that order probably.
So she is asked if Brittany is asked if she would describe their marriage as a conventional marriage and britney laughed and said definitely not okay yeah it was they said that cat was just she was wild she said she's wild she said that she would jump from the kitchen counter to the sofa and just shirtless and braless.

She's taking her tits out while people are over and leaping from the counter to the couch like a fucking calico.

And military men?

With her tits out.

Yeah, how do you handle that?

That's a lot.

Oh, man.

It's one thing if a woman's hot, whatever, but she's like, here are my tits, brah!

You're like, I can't, I don't know what to do with this.

I mean, I don't know.

I know what to do with it for a little while. I know what to do with it for a little while and then i got i know what to do with it for like i don't know 30 40 seconds and after that i don't know what to do with it anymore i hope you know what to do with yours because wow you're gonna be you're gonna be crying a lot people are i invited a guy i recruited for the army oh good i'll get my tits out wow that's wild and um the interviewer said wait in front of you and your husband this would happen and she says yes my husband would go oh my gosh yeah you did like we come over here all the time this is great Jesus Christ it's free holy shit I'm gonna join the army the navy the marine corps the air force yeah anything else you want me to join? The Boy Scouts, I'll join them all.
Is there a tip jar to keep this going? This is incredible. What happens if I stop tipping? And Jeff's just like, oh, that's my life.
That's what she does. Wow.
And there's a baby in the house and everything. She's like, my tits have gotten bigger.
Yeah. What a great mom.
Good for her. Good for her.
Yeah. So they would hang out at home, and they also stayed going out to bars and clubs together, the couples and all that kind of thing.
Brittany said she'd be lively and animated, and Jeff would be just sitting on the couch, relaxing, having his drink. Wow.
It's very weird. Interesting.
Like a Hugh Hefner relationship. Yeah.
Like, no, go on, girls. Go out and frolic.
Show them your tits, girls. Show them the goods, ladies.
And then I'll be sitting here in my weird smoking jacket. Yeah.
So they said that, Brittany was asked if the two of them would fight ever. And Brittany said Kat would fight, Jeff would not.
What does that mean? if you've seen the Sarah Boone trial, I think that's what they're discussing. Just going, all right.
The text messages in that trial. Everybody, do yourself a favor.
It's all on YouTube, the Sarah Boone trial. The text messages.
Yeah. Because, I mean, the video she recorded, you know what happens in between videos.
I mean, they're all her being aggressive, aggressive Sarah Boone being aggressive it's a drunk girl yelling at a man yeah and him and then the one with the video is because she's not drunk she's mad at him wow he fell asleep she wouldn't let him in the room so he was sleeping on the floor in the hallway and she came out and yelled at him this is Sarah Boone not George Torres not cat and she's like I told you not to go anywhere near me. You're out here and now the whole hallway smells like you.
And she's like yelling at him, I don't love you. Get the hell out of here.
And she's sober? Well, she says, you drank, there was enough vodka there for two people to feel real nice and you drank it all. She's mad because he drank her vodka.
Went through her portion to get to his it's wild but text messages are different and text messages you can see exactly what everybody says and it is just her haranguing this guy and him saying fucking i love you i don't know i what i don't know what happened what i'm sorry what did i do and like she's just like you don't even you Puerto Rican piece of shit. Like, you're like, what the fuck? Yeah.
This lady's crazy. Fuck you.

Then she's just like, you Puerto Rican piece of shit. You're like, what the fuck? Yeah.
This lady's crazy. Fuck you.
Then she'll text the guy's mother and be like, he's a piece of shit. You should come pick him up.
He's 40-something years old. You're like, wow.
It's crazy. So Kat would fight.
Jeff would not. I'm not saying Kat is like Sarah Boone.
I'm just saying that reminded me. I just watched the trial.
She said Cat would get emotional. When she was drunk, she would get loud.
That's normal. She would get, um, feisty is the way she put it.
Girl, you got to be so specific. Feisty.
When you say a woman who's drunk gets feisty, you know the guy version of that. Yeah.
You know what I mean? A gal is a pain in the ass. A dude punches shit.
They're violent. Yeah.
But he would sit there and just say, okay, boo, boo. Okay.
I love you. All right, baby girl.
She'd go crazy and yell at him. He'd go, all right, all right.
I love you. I love you.
Which is kind of what George Torres did too. So she said, you know, she said she never, he was never, ever jealous, though.
It was never any put your tits away.

Yeah.

None of that.

He's got a lot of confidence, I'll say.

And one other friend said that surprised me because I don't think many men would feel that way about that.

No.

Yeah.

Your ultra hot wife with her tits out.

A lot of guys would be like, oh, Jesus, I don't like this at all.

So 2014, they moved to Alabama.

Here they come.

Lock, stock, and barrel moving right into Alabama here.

And he got a job as a campus police officer at a college here.

So that's where they hang out.

He's done with the military now.

Apparently, maybe he's retired.

He's probably been in for 20 years at this point or something.

I doubt they're sending him to this little town as a recruiter. No.
I mean, if he's 40 at this point, he's probably been in for 20 years at this point or something. I doubt they're sending him to this little town as a recruiter.
No, I mean, if he's, what are we thinking here, 20, he's 40 at this point, probably been in for 20. Probably did his 20 and got the fuck out.
So he's a campus police officer here. And the couple always makes time to be together.
They have regular date nights. They try to keep this marriage cooking along.
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And now back to the show. Now, Kat here on Facebook describes herself as a full-time wife and mom.
She's got internet personality kind of thing where she takes very posed pictures and very staged shots. And on Facebook, she posted a lot of selfies.
And obviously, all the commenters would be like, you're beautiful, you're hot, you're gorgeous, all that shit, obviously. Yeah, that comes out of the woodwork if you're a woman posting shit on there.
Boy, you will know quick. There's also photos of her wedding though and her and her husband and uh you know her and her husband and her and her daughter playing in the snow and shit like that so it's next amongst the boudoir no no not really boudoir okay on here okay here it's just like selfies and people like oh you're hot got it and then but it's not like she's not trying to present herself as like i'm single and hot she's like i'm a wife mom.
Here's my husband and kids. And here's also what I look like alone.
But I'm pretty smoking at the same time. So she posts all that kind of shit.
Her personal description, though, included the word exhibitionist in there. Oh, girl.
And she doesn't mean art, I don't think. I don't think so either.
I think she means having her tits out. I think she means jumping from counter to sink.
Counters to sofas. She had a private Instagram account with 52,000 followers.

Doing great.

That just linked to OnlyFans, though.

Really?

So she'd have her site there where she'd post some teasing shit, and then she would link you to OnlyFans that would say,

you'd go here for naughty fun.

Doggone.

And some of the images were included in a site for also mature hotties. Oh, okay.
So she's trying to get into the MILF market. Yeah.
So she posted similar content on Twitter here where she joined about 2016. She started posting in March and she would just initially tweet links to a site where she sold clothes to.
She sold dresses, coats, shoes and kids clothing. I don't know if she resold shit or did like whatever the fuck.
So what do they call that? Are you up thrift? Is that it? I don't know. I don't know.
That seems douchey. It's where you like take shit and then you make it.
You go to Goodwill and then sell it for three dollars. No, you go to Goodwill and then you customize it and sell it.
Oh, you customize. So that'd be like Etsy then.
Ish, yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
So on August 11th though it all changed when it turned into never mind baby clothes anymore. She tweeted Happy Frisky Friday.
Let's get this party started. I'm done fucking around.
With a link to OnlyFans. There you go.
Happy Frisky Friday. Who wants to see my tits is what it was there.
So the description included a link to a wish list page where viewers could purchase lingerie for her. Yeah.
And then she'll wear it for you. Oh, boy.
How fucking. Why are we doing? Why isn't there? And men.
Yeah. Why isn't there a...
We don't get to touch that person. Why are we giving them lingerie? I've got a wish list full of snap-on tools.
Buy those for me and watch me work on my car. That's all.
Nobody wants that. No, I would hope not.
I wish they would. I mean, I'm sure there are women that have weird car fantasies.
Do you think there are some that would want to watch you work on something? Absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah, women love that shit. Did I just start something? No, that's pretty huge.
Does that exist? Yes, absolutely. Does it really? Yes, yes.
You just invented something that's been around for a long time. People pay to watch people work on cars? Yes, they pay to watch people sleep.
They pay to watch people do everything. Yes, there is a niche.
If you can think of a niche, it exists. Goddamn.
I'm late. People making more money than you could ever fathom god making doing anything doing 2000 and late in 2000 and broke fucking that's what it goes man so she this is uh you can see sex sexier images here uh for 15.99 a month that's a pretty good deal that's i mean that's like hulu with no no ads and that's like three, by the way.
Yeah, that's three Patreon. I think we put out more.
Our tits aren't there, but our episodes are better. We put more work, right? Yes.
Yes. Absolutely.
If I had tits, that's what I'd be doing, but I don't. So Jeff, most of the time, he was the photographer for these.
So that's how much he didn't mind. He was the one taking the fucking pictures.
He was helping her and, you know, like suggesting poses for her and shit. Like, this looks sexy.
Do that. Bend it over.
And she had hundreds of paying subscribers that known her as Kitty Cat West. Hundreds paying $16 a month.
She's making a fucking living. Her friend said she was very out loud about it.
She was making money. So there's a weird thing when stuff happens in this case where lots of press accounts say double life.
There's no double life. It's one life.
I mean, it's, yeah, during the day she's, you know, a mom and getting her kid fucking Cheerios and chopping up fruit and shit, but then at night she's taking her tits out, but it's not a double life. Everyone knows about it.
She's not just two jobs. That's all.
Her husband is involved in it. Her friends know about it.
It's not. She posts it on her public pages on Twitter.
She just has two jobs that are polar opposites of each other. That's all.
Yeah. She's a mom and she shows her tits.
She's like Batman. She's like 65% of women, I think.
She's Batman is what she is. Doing doing nice boring work during the day and at night she's doing just having the fun doing the lord's work at night so now only fans a little bit of background for only fans here it has become a huge deal for celebrities the amount of money that people make on only fans is staggering it's staggering there's actresses that go on there that make more fucking money on there than they do in their whole careers acting.
It's insane. And a bunch of them don't even show anything.
No, that's the other thing. What is that? What are we paying for? I don't know why anyone would pay for nude pictures of anyone at this point when there's free porn all over the place.
Twitter is just porn now. Yes.
Actual porn, James. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cock money shots. Well, it's that actual porn.
That's in between eight trillion political posts. So that's all Twitter is now is just political posts.
Aggressive political posts and then a cock shooting jizz everywhere. Yay.
Wow. Boy, did this turn out great.
This is looking good. So this, I guess the big thing that made this big was the Bella Thorne thing when she went on there.
Who's that? She was a Disney star. Oh.
And then when she was older, she went on there. She made a million dollars on the first day posting, quote, lifestyle content.
Not showing her pussy. Just posting, here's me, here I am.
Here's me having here me having spaghetti yep so and then it became also then obviously there's women who do yeah catch me outside girl yeah i mean there's women who do that's just a porn site that they do yeah they do their porn on there so um yeah she that girl also made a million dollars she also sells like makes a lot of money in music. Yeah, I know.
That's just terrifying. She sells quote-unquote rap and then fist fucks herself.
I don't know, man. Well, I mean, fist fucking yourself, that's something.
That takes talent. That takes talent.
I don't want to hear her rap. I don't either.
No. I don't really want to watch her fist fuck herself either.
I don't want either of those things. That seems like a product that's not aimed at me.
Man. So they also say that there's a bunch of people, there's a former teacher in a YouTube video telling people that she quadrupled her income posting nudes on OnlyFans.
She said, I would wear things that allow me to feel sexy because when I feel sexy, I feel powerful. That's when i make you get a's that's when you're

gonna get a's and b's right there here another woman saying she's working her way through a

neuroscience master's program it's amazing that's fucking amazing the world that is hilarious here

um also a minnesota pastor left the pulpit to go on only fans and made a shitload of money

stop it yes because that's a that's a real good business too you could do that or if you're now

these college, like if you're a college

I'm just... to go on OnlyFans and made a shitload of money.
Stop it. Yes, because that's a real good business, too.
You could do that. Or if you're a college chick athlete, they all do OnlyFans with team gear around them.
There are girls, because now they're allowed to do that. There are college athlete girls that you've never heard of that play volleyball or soccer or something that make fucking millions of dollars a year.
Unbelievable. Millions on there.
Fingering herself on a Georgia Bulldogs jersey. I don't even know if they're fingering themselves.
That's the other thing. They might just be doing their homework.
That's the thing. Yeah, you don't know.
That's what's fucking nuts. So Brittany said Kat, when not behind the website, was not always confident.
On the outside, not confident, but on the website. What's that cams on? She's killing you.
Once you can edit photos how you want and take the angle you want and everything, then she feels confident. And she said, yes, you have your husband, but you always want to be pretty to others.
And remarkably, Jeff seemed to love it, Brittany said. Loved that other guys paid attention to her because that made him feel like a big man.

Yeah, he's winning.

Look at me.

They want her.

I got her. I get to have, yeah.

So she said,

Jeff got the best

of both worlds.

He was able to be

with his wife.

She got what she wanted,

which was to get to make money.

I get to show off

what I have

and he's not going to leave me.

Everybody's happy.

He wants to see tits.

She wants her tits out.

Yeah.

Doesn't care who looks at them. She has a mind showing to people.
Everybody's happy. He wants to see tits.
She wants her tits out. Doesn't care who looks at him.

She has a mind showing to people.

Everybody's happy.

Great.

Good for you.

That's fine.

Imagine.

2018, her online shit really ramped up, though.

Okay.

She's pretty much posting everything.

Only fans is her big thing now.

And Britney said she was starting to get knee deep in that type of industry.

I think she started to see money rolling in. It was like, well, if I do more, I make more money.
That's how you do with everything. So, I mean, go get a hot dog stand.
You're going to go, well, if I get two hot dog stands, I make even more money. Start a podcast.
Start a podcast. Let's do fucking five more, and then let's do Patreon, and then let's never sleep, and then let's fucking record every goddamn day and every day and every day and every day.
It's going to pay off, I swear. And then with OnlyFans, she'd get providers, she'd get subscribers and she could communicate with them and subscribers could make requests with her and all that kind of shit.
Sure, sure. That's how it's going.
That's going leading up to 2018. December 20th, 2017 here.
Here are some texts between Jeff and Kat. Yeah.
Okay. This is December 20th, like I said.
Five days before Christmas. Yeah.
This is getting in the Christmas spirit. This is some real Christmas spirit stuff right here.
When your wife sends you this right before Christmas, you're going to go, this is going to be a good holiday. I'm getting nothing.
Quote, show me now or it is goodbye. No more games.
Never doing this holiday again with you. It goes the same every year.
My family treats you like family. Your family treats me like shit.
Hmm. It says shut.
I believe. Oh, it says shut.
I believe it's a typo. Okay.
I'm done with you being too scared to stand up to your mom for being a bitch after almost 14 years of promises. You have to want to be with me.
I love you. You don't love me.
Your mom's a bitch. Your mom's a bitch.
Now, this is a tough one. Yeah? This is a tough one.
My first wife and my mother. Didn't get along? My mother, no, they don't get along.
So my mother, she's great, but she's tough. She's an Italian lady named Angela.
That's what I mean. That's what I mean.
She's from the fucking her mother stabbed people like she's not she's meant for conflict and so like my ex-wife would get angry that i would not defend her and i'm like i you two don't even need to talk i don't need to be in the if you can't get along just don't don't even talk and apparently that was unacceptable and i was supposed to i was supposed to like you don't make me make a bridge between them and like i was just like just ignore her leave her alone she'll leave you alone and let's up and I don't know if I was wrong to make a bridge between them. I was just like, just ignore her.
Leave her alone. She'll leave you alone and let's stop it.
I don't know if I was wrong or not. See some cranberry sauce.
Let's get the fuck out of here. I really didn't have time for that bullshit is what it was.
I'm trying to make noodles. Get out.
Yeah, go. So I was like, I wouldn't fight with her.
That was my advice. I moved out so I don't have to fight with her.
Leave me alone. I'd try not her that's i don't know what to tell you i'm gonna tell you how i know my mother she's like a force of nature there's no stopping her i don't know you can't stop her perhaps perhaps she's changing now because she's always so sweet oh she's a sweetheart but she never stops she's like a fucking like floodwaters like just get out of the way it's coming yeah it's coming so tough shit so january 4th 2018 right after the holidays here cat texts her husband i know you're scared to tell me you don't want to be with me but it's only hurting me more by lying and then she said if you don't want me if you don't want me, if you don't want me, say it.

He replied, baby, I want you. Do you want me? We never really talked after New Year's Eve.
Oh, my. So I don't know why.
Yeah, two weeks now. Two weeks.
Well, after New Year's Eve. So in three days, they haven't talked.
They haven't talked about this or haven't talked at all. What the fuck? It's weird.
So on January 6uary 6th 2018 um she said this is the last time you will fuck me over oh you promised you don't want me fine someone will and he said i always want you yeah and then she wrote you're throwing almost 14 years of marriage away really that's what i mean to you. And then she sent him a middle finger emoji.
Fantastic. I just started using it.
The height of maturity. That's good stuff.
Another time she wrote stop texting during the conversation. So the middle finger emoji.
That is. Imagine.
Okay. Imagine your grandparents.
Everyone out there. Imagine your grandma and your grandpa.
And they're fighting. And they're sending letters to each other.
And they're sending letters with a drawn middle finger on it. There you go, Harold.
And they're like, listen, Alice, I tried my best. Stop writing back.
I will not accept delivery of your postage. Middle finger.
Middle finger. Drawn.
Return to sender. Middle finger on it.
There you go. That's how you had to do it back then.
It took three days. Ah, it's incredible.
So January 12th, by January 12th, 2018, it seems like everything is okay again. Okay.
Because they're having a date night. So I don't know if they're trying to talk to each other.
Maybe they're taking a date night to go talk about it. I don't know what they're doing here.
But earlier in the day, Kat tweets a link to sell a woman's wool jacket that day. Okay.
So she's got some shit for sale. A few days earlier, she posted a lingerie photo showing her bare ass to her adult site there.
Yeah. It's string type deal sure you see your ass i don't know i don't know when as a society we decided as long as your butthole is covered i don't see your ass but i see your ass i'm not complaining i'm just saying your ass is on full display and sometimes the asshole gets i don't care if the asshole's seen or not sometimes to see that sometimes the ring around the asshole is seen and it's like you're seeing that's your asshole you're seeing peripheral asshole that's just because wrinkles are covered doesn't mean i don't see your ass no i see yeah i i see that you tried to bleach it but still it's seen when you've seen them all i know what that looks like it's right the side of a butthole, my darling.
He got side hole out. Oh, my darling, big butthole.
Side wrinkles. Jesus.
Side butthole wrinkles. So that day also, he said he took their daughter Lola to middle school.
Sure. And then spent the rest of the day hunting with his father, William Gerald West.
So there you go. He's hunting when he got home.
That's when Grandpa, Jeff's dad, took Lola to spend the weekend with her grandparents, which wasn't uncommon. That's a nice thing.
Then they get a weekend alone together. Get out of here.
I'm going to solve problems with your mom. She's 12 at this point.
By the time you get home, it's going to be a happy house. Plus, by the time you get home, you can't have a 12-year-old in the house while you're doing a lingerie photo shoot with your ass out probably i don't think so what is that i can see side no i can ma that side rank i see it i see i see side i see wrinkles i see where the color changes that's ma seriously you have a wider butthole than i think you're aware of ma i don't think you realize you picture your butthole is very narrow but it's actually a Decent width.
You need a wider butthole than I think you're aware of, Ma. I don't think you realize.
You picture your butthole as very narrow, but it's actually a decent width. You need a fatter band on that thong, Ma.
Fatter band. That's how it goes.
So Jeff and Kat go to dinner at the Red Zone Bar and Grill. Hell yeah.
That's where they're going here. That sounds trashy.
I like it. That sounds like they're going to, like, on Saturdays you can't even get in there when the Alabama game's on.
You can smell the beer, Matt. Oh, yeah.
I picture it like Toso's. Or worse.
Yeah. But, yeah, that smell.
That smell, that stale beer and, like, old grease. That smells so bad.
And kitchen workers fucking each other in the bathroom and shit like that. You walk in and you go, what is it? What is that? Is that bathroom? Is it old grease? Is it grease? Stale beer or piss? Oh, it's a lovely potpourri is what it is.
It's a combination of the three. Thank you.
That's nice. It's a lovely candle.
What a gift. So her friend, Kat's friend, said they go out to a restaurant.
You know, they have some drinks and dinner. Yeah.
And yeah. So after dinner, they stopped at a liquor store.
Hell yeah yeah. And security cameras show them shopping, and they look to be happy.
Yeah. Nobody's angry, no hands in pockets.
They're, like, laughing. Their hands are moving.
We went to a sports bar, and we left that. Now we're getting more booze.
To go home. Hell, yeah.
To tie one on. That's good shit.
So, yeah, it looks like they're happy. Yes, out yes i mean this is a friday night for you know the kidless couple here so um it shows them purchasing uh what appears to be a bottle of lucid absinthe yeah and another bottle okay so two bottles here and everything seemed fine at one point on the video he even pats her on the ass a couple of times so if you're're patting on the ass, things are going well in your relationship.
If she's like middle finger emoji, you go, come over here, sweetheart, and pat her on the ass. So after drinks and dinner, that's when they stop.
It's R&R Wine and Liquor is where they stopped. And they got absinthe.
She picked out the absinthe. He got himself Jameson whiskey.
Jesus. My God, he is town that's a man he's drinking like fucking mcnulty yeah drinking like he's got something to forget like a divorced homicide detective that's what you're drinking like who's behind on his child support out of the bottle wow the total was 139 bucks yeah that absinthe is expensive shit yeahon.
It's all expensive. It's all expensive.
Jamo's like $40, $50 a bottle, though. If you flick it and it's glass, it's going to cost you.
If it's plastic, it's shit. You'll feel awful tomorrow.
$12.99, forget about it. So then they stopped at the grocery store to pick up an energy drink, a mixer maybe.
I don't know. Maybe they were just getting tired.
Got to tie one on for the night here. Then they went back to their home in Calera where they each had approximately six drinks.
God damn. This is after they were already drinking.
Yeah. So that's drunk.
They're part – I tell you, when they take the kids away, this is – as a person with kids, you know you're like, kids are gone. Yeah.
Woo. That's a lot of drinks drinks that's a lot of drinks uh later on after all these drinks cat changes into lingerie and asked jeff to take pictures of her that's for the online shit yeah now we're drunk in your lingerie you're gonna be fucking it's gonna be great very little hotter than a super drunk chick that's the worst take pictures of me well if it's your wife it's fine's a stranger.
Until she bends over, doesn't touch the carpet, and then her face just plows right in the ground. I mean, at least you have it recorded so no one thinks you did it.
I mean, that's not your fault. Yeah, I don't want her falling down and having bruises that she can blame on me.
You don't want her to fall anyway, but still. So Jeff photographed Kat for her site, and that's how it went.
She was wearing a pink bra, multicolored panties, and pink stiletto heels. Shit, yeah.
Pictures were taken about 9.30, and Jeff said he then went to bed by himself. That night, he posted a picture of the absinthe bottle standing up on the counter at some point on his Instagram page for some reason.
When you're drunk, you think that's a good idea to post. Everybody's going to be so impressed.
You're going to be like, wow, he's drinking. This guy's doing it.
So the next morning at 5 a.m. is when McCorsha Purifoy is on her way to work at the fast food restaurant.
She said she saw a person, what she thought was lying halfway in the road. She got her parents, came back, and Makorsha said her body was frozen, like frozen.
I was traumatized. I was just in the car crying.
She was only wearing a sports bra is what she said. So her mother called 911, and the mother said they asked to see if she was breathing or not, and she wasn't.
And so we just waited for the police to get there. She tells 911 operator she's face down with no clothes on.
The lady looks dead. Oh, my God.
Dead nude lady. I know you guys are busy sometimes, as I've heard from a review, but could you comes now, possibly? Face down, ass up, all blue.
All blue. Comes.
Dead. Yeah.
So they said you could hear her saying ma'am over the 911 trying to wake her up, but she's obviously got no response. And she said her husband touched the woman and saw no signs of light to see if she was cold or just whatever.
You could tell from a dead person. There's no animation here.
No, that's not good. She said she noticed the lights were on in the house across the street, which was the West home.
Oh, it's her house. That's the West home here.
And said the front door was opened. This is the Marcosha's mom through which she could see a man pacing back and forth.
Now, there was also a booze bottle. It's the absent bottle is near.
This is cat's body. Yeah.
And it's right near cat's body. And and it was on top of a cell phone.
OK. So the bottle is on top of the cell phone laying there, which is strange.

Now, the woman who called 911 told the dispatcher she could see a man inside this house right here pacing back and forth in front of the window.

Maybe that has something to do with it.

Perhaps connected.

We don't know.

So really interesting.

And they said the liquor bottle, there's no way this is like an accident. It has to be placed on top of the cell phone for it to go that way.
So the police are obviously going to treat this as a homicide for now. They treat everything as a homicide.
But Jeff here, no comment from him, obviously. He's in the house fucking pacing.
So the first officer gets there, and it is Officer Fred Yarenko, and he said he was among the first officers on the scene and also served as the evidence technician, which is strange because they usually have a set person. That's what they do.
This is like short straws to see who's going to have to fucking collect. First arrival, start cataloging.
That's not good. No.
For murder cases. You need someone who that's what they do.
But if this is your area, you better get to work. I suppose on all your hats.
Shit. So he said that he noticed the lights on in the West home and the door open with someone standing inside.
While he was talking to the woman who called 911, he showed up. He was talking to them.
He said the door closed. Oh.
Now, this is odd behavior from Jeff because he obviously must know his wife's not in the house. Yeah.
And he sees cops. Don't know where she is.
And now there's cops and shit. And people are gathered around what looks like a white lady laying in the street.
So don't talk to me right now. I'm gathering my thoughts.
Real weird shit here. So they said that a criminal investigator named Sergeant Mike Melhoff arrived about a half hour later.
He said, looking at the scene, Kathleen's head is laying in the road. Her body is actually laying in the grass.
Oh, wow. Yeah.
So it's not her feet on the road. It's her head.
They said there was something else he noticed right away. He said it appeared that the body had been moved more than once.
Oh. Which is interesting because she was found lying in a pool of blood.
And this is right across the street from her house. But the cop noticed, this investigator noticed, that there's another pool of blood nearby.
So either there was a second person or she was moved. So next to Kat's body, her cell phone and an open bottle of absinthe were there, which is interesting, and they said the bottle of absinthe was mostly full, they testified to, as the officer would say later on.
That's a very optimistic fella. It's mostly full.
There was a cork nearby, and he said he didn't notice any spilled alcohol from the bottle. There was also a matchbox from a restaurant, and that was the restaurant they had been earlier in the night, the Red Zone.
And, yeah, he said that he thoroughly documented everything. He said, quote, this was a big deal for us.
It's a small town. You don't usually get a blonde lady dead in the road with no fucking top on.
But it seems as though in L.A. this would be a big fucking deal.
Anywhere this would be a big deal. This is just a big deal.
Yeah. Generally, you find dead people who their lifestyle doesn't expect you to find them on the side of the road.
And be moved. And be moved also.
Several blood pools. So the sergeant here said the absinthe bottle, it was just propped up on the phone just like that.
It's like leaning on it. Like you couldn't make it stay like that unless you – like you had to set it and go, ah, perfect.
Right. So he said it was weird.
He said it just did not seem right like that. He said it would have landed in such a way that – there's no way it would have landed in such a way that it did other than it being staged like that.
And that's interesting. And her friend also said it looked staged.
And her friend said the bottle was placed on that phone. Well, unless the Dude Perfect guys did it.
By somebody. Yeah.
Yeah. So Kat, they take her in for the medical examiner.
She has a roughly two-inch gash on the left side of her head.

And the cause of death is blunt force trauma to the head.

So whatever caused that gash broke her skull in, basically.

Wow.

They said the injury that she suffered was enough to actually fracture the skull.

The autopsy showed signs of sex, but there was no indication of sexual assault.

And her blood alcohol level was 0.23. That's a hammered gown.
Which is up there. Yeah, that's usually drinking, which I mean she's in her own house drinking.
Go crazy. But the medical examiner could not say exactly how the cat sustained the injury.
They never was able to figure it out. The manner of death is ruled undetermined.
Really? Because they have no idea what happened. Is that right? They don't know if it was an accident.
Yeah, but a pantsless gal didn't do this to herself. I mean, but if you know her, being pantsless and drunk is just normal for her around the house.
For her to get drunk and run around with no pants on is commonplace. That's very normal for her.
Now, it's very strange. They post...
This is a big news story. Sure.
And, you know, this woman's found. They haven't talked to her husband, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Underneath this article, there's a shitload of comments. And I just picked out some weird ones.
Oh, boy. Here, to check this out.
Somebody said, hopefully there are fingerprints on the phone and bottle. Phone and her home computer will have loads of info.
Okay. So, to get trying to figure out what people are thinking happened here somebody else says why is this news what what how many how many suburban women are found dead naked half in the road in front of their own homes is that normal really i don't know i don't want to hear about it.
Why is this news? Wow.

Tell me about the strawberry fest.

What the fuck?

Another guy says, risky business to be involved in.

How?

It's not.

No.

That's what I mean. She's not out on the street flagging down truckers for blowjobs.

This is from her home with her husband taking the pictures.

How is that?

This is the most safe that you can do.

And then says there's a lot of truly evil people roaming free in society.

And that has 22 likes and no dislikes.

It's... This is the most safe that you can do.
And then says there's a lot of truly evil people roaming free in society. And that has 22 likes and no dislikes.
Is that right? Like how? Another one said, quote, so this beautiful young mother dies and people have made it all about some sexual photos she took. Why should she be singled out and shamed when there's so many other people doing it without getting any flack.
True. Why is this news? Why is this news?

And then somebody says, very sad, but how could her husband not know what she was up to?

He did know what she was up to, but that's what a lot of people thought was that. So, obviously, they got to talk to Jeff.

Yeah.

Because they said Jeff was standing in the doorway.

At one point, he was on the porch smoking a cigarette and watching the events but not coming over there or saying hey that my wife yeah hey um let me ask you a question could you guys get out of the way my wife's coming home soon yeah whoa this is gonna be crazy um she kind of looks like that yeah oh shit so they said when the detective spoke to jeff inside he said his behavior is not what I expected it to be, knowing that his wife was outside. He knew his behavior should be crushed.
Yeah. You know, whatever.
Holy shit. So he said everybody grieves in a different way, which is true.
Some people are stoic and some people are more shocked and some people are emotional. He said, and that was something I kept telling myself as a cop though if you get a suspicion follow that shit i can't follow my gut i only do evidence and i can't i mean it's not like you're like related to this guy i just kept telling myself everyone grieves a different way it's fine as a cop you should be looking for shit to be suspicious about right can't do it i gotta i gotta follow the evidence i just don't want i don't want people to think i'm being all suspicious of people all the time i don't want people to think i jump to conclusions when you're a detective people think you're suspicious and i just like to try to make it real comfortable for people all you gotta wait until the blood evidence comes back it goes so they said what happened jeff and he said i went to bed at 10 30 yeah i woke up at15 a.m.
My dogs woke me up barking at all the police lights outside the house. I woke up, dogs, I was confused.
I looked outside and the cop said he found it very odd that Jeff didn't ask for any details about his wife's condition. He never said, is she okay? Is she dead? Is she alive? Is she hurt? Nothing.
He just was like like i went to bed then i woke up then but never asked like by the way is she okay can i go see her next question next question they said the detective said i would have thought that he would have at least asked you know can i see her yeah something like that so they they don't understand what happened they're trying to figure it out. They're wondering, is it an accident? Was she so intoxicated she fell and cracked her head? Or was it murder? Did somebody kill her? So if so, who killed her? So they're trying to figure all this out.
They're searching the neighborhood, clues, witnesses. They take Jeff to headquarters to talk to him.
He stays there for about six hours. Okay.
He said he was absolutely cooperative. He did that.
A former Calera police officer and current Shelby County Sheriff's deputy and I feel for this man because his name is worse than mine and where he lives this is tough. Luigi Ragazzoni.
Hell yeah. Tell them what it is Luigi.
Wow, Rag wow ragazzoni actually god fuck luigi said he was on the scene documenting the list of first responders and of course taking a lot of shit where people are telling him to get a mushroom and saying i guess you're late to save the princess yeah whenever he shows up at a crime scene and there's a dead lady they go you're a little late to save the princess luigi they say it every fucking time i bet would you ride a dinosaur oh for christ's sake look at you how many coins you got luigi empty your pockets so they said while he was doing so a man later he found out was jeff west yeah approached him and said that's my wife and luigi said he apologetically informed jeff well your your wife's dead. I mean, that's what it is.
Luigi said, I went from logging and assisting somebody to assisting someone in distress. He said they talked about things other than Kat's death, such as guns and Jeff's military service.
He said it was a human-to-human conversation, not a business transaction type of deal here. He was trying to make Jeff feel better.
What are you, in the military? Check this out. This is a .40 cal.
By the way, my wife's dead out there. I don't know if you noticed that or not.
Don't worry about it. Let me show you what he carries.
Let me check this out. Check this out.
This guy's old school. He carries a .44 mag.
Fucking weird luigi accompanied jeff back inside his home and um the body cam records everything here sure uh some of the recording they they get all here and jeff just said you hear him on one of the parts say i woke up and saw all this meaning you and them and everything he said he had no idea what happened to cat he was adamant about that speculated it might have been an accident. He also said their marriage was in a good place right now.
We were having a good day. We were having a good day.
I said you're it. Yeah, which is not it.
So that's a Sarah Boone reference again. So in the interrogation at the police department, or really an interview, they're not really interrogating him.
They don't really even have any suspicions. That's no question.
They don't know shit at this point. The detective asked Jeff about the couple's relationship and their sex life.
Oh, boy. During that conversation, Jeff said that his wife was bisexual.
Oh. This guy's got a fucking.
He's hit the lottery. What a party he's got going on.
And they talked about having relations with other women okay come on what what the fuck man what is you braggadocious what are you what what do you have jeff i want to know what what is it happening what do you what's in there what do you possess yeah what is it that is that hmm the antidote like what the fuck do you have wow man do you have the the cure for something that they don't we don't know yet? It's not money. He's a five and a half.
It's Hammer, right? That's the next one. It's got to be because he's a fucking campus security officer.
The kids make fun of that guy. Yeah.
Oh, God. He's like, have you seen my hot wife? I'm going to have a threesome with her and her fucking big-titted friend later.
So, fuck you, kids. How's that? Enjoy smoking on just smoking on campus yeah enjoy so he said they talked about that specifically three women in calera that they talked about having so they were like to the point not just like i want to have a chick they were like maybe this one they're down to the final three they're down to the final three this guy is about to have a party there There's only two roses on the table.
This is incredible.

He said she liked girls. She recently wanted to look into, quote, the lifestyle.
My God. This guy is having way too much fun for his life.
They discussed that men who'd subscribe to Kat's website would occasionally reach out to her in a private messenger and sometimes even send pictures of themselves. Well, yeah, you're going to get those.
And he she would just delete the pictures uh when asked if he was ever jealous of all the other men he said there's nothing to be jealous about me and her we're in a good spot she's giving me extra ass i mean she's trying to get women extra women over here to fuck me i got a surplus of pussy this is wild pussy tits jumping around it's crazy you ever come in from the bathroom and have your tit your wife just tits out jump from a counter to a sofa it's amazing here's the thing we had a kid and then life got better yeah what somehow it got awesome god damn it jesus fucking christ she's jumping around like a gremlin so he said i'm not jealous of it meaning the pictures online he. He said, it's just pictures.
She got money for it.

And he also said he didn't believe that she had cheated on him except for possibly one time many, many years ago in California.

He said she's never stepped out on the marriage.

Now, he said he had six drinks that night.

He said in a scale of one to ten, in terms of drunk, ten being drunkest, he and his wife were about a 6. You're a 6.
She's a 9. But still, yeah.
She was a .23, and that's a 6? That's a 6 in this house. Good God.
So a 10 is your breath is flammable. Yeah.
There's marks, bruises. Yeah.
They got back to their house at 8.30. He said that his wife was a member of the internet site called the Cougar Club.
Okay. There you go.
And Kathleen made pictures of herself in lingerie and posted them on the site. And people who visited the site could purchase the pictures.
And that was in their PayPal account because he was asking them, how does the money go? He goes, well, it goes in there. It goes in her PayPal account.
Then you transfer it to your bank account. So then when they arrived back to their house after eating dinner, he said that Kathleen went to change into a pink bra and pink panties and pink high-heeled shoes so she could post photographs for Cougar Club.
He said that his wife often drank, and when she was drunk, she would go out of the house and into the yard, which is what everybody says, too. Even her parents say she'd wander off when she was drinking or even sober.
She liked to go outside and do shit. She would turn into, like, a 10-year-old when she was drunk.
Yeah. He said that she'd go outside shit-faced and would go jump on the trampoline in the backyard.
That's unbelievable. That is, that's a stomach, an iron gut she's got.
She's not hidden. So about halfway through the interview, the detective told Jeff that they believed his wife had been murdered.
And Jeff said, how? Good question. You tell us, big guy.
He said, that's what we're trying to figure out. Your wife is dead.
Something went wrong. He said that he told Jeff that there was a hole to the side of her head.
And that Jeff questioned whether it was possible that someone else had come to the home. Or they said, did you think someone could have come after you were asleep? And he goes, I was asleep.
How the fuck should I know? I don't know. He said he didn't know for sure what happened, but the only thing he could think of that may have occurred was that in the past when his wife would be tanked, there were times where she would go jump on the trampoline and maybe that was it.
And, you know you know, they had some, um, evidently they had some place, they had that in the backyard. So, you know, maybe that was it.
He said he thought as a result of her jumping on the trampoline, being drunk, maybe she lost her balance and hit her head, maybe on the bar or the perimeter side of the trampoline and got dazed. And he thinks that maybe that's what, maybe she wandered out into the front and died.
Yeah. Back up fell again maybe that's it yeah got back up tried to give go to the house and got confused or something i mean who knows what a nightmare could be anything really so it's fucking weird so the sergeant here uh says that he examined the backyard and looked over the whole trampoline i mean you've got've got luminol out there, and they found no blood, no traces of blood on the trampoline, on the bar or the trampoline around, or in any other location in the backyard.
So whatever happened, it didn't happen back here is what he said. Right.
So Jeff tells investigators that they say, you know, you sound like you keep saying perfect marriage, perfect marriage, but nobody's marriage is perfect. What are your problems? And he said, well, there was some level of unhappiness, mainly because Kat wanted to have sex four or five times a week.
And he did not always want to have sex that often. That's not just bang your wife.
If she's like, hey, I really fucking throw her one. What are you doing? You've got a gal that's not just bang your wife if she's like hey i really fucking throw her one what are you doing you've got a gal that's hotter than you that wants to fuck you better fuck her that's your job fucker and she's gonna bring over other chicks too show her you're worthy get a pill and get to work shit yeah i need a pill he's like fucking 35 years old skin that smoke get in there and see what happens check out the hook while my dj revolve honest to god let's get in there you got a problem let's solve it holy shit so he said i'm not as sexual as she is yeah it is what it is i'm happy with myself she wasn't happy with it yeah so jeff said his wife claimed he hit her California.
Oh. And he said he was blocking her from hitting him when it happened.
All right. And because they said, was there ever any violence at all? I mean, years ago, this happened.
Right. The night she died, though, he said, there's no argument, no violence.
He said again, quote, we were in a good spot. We were having a good day.
A good spot. Says we keep saying having a good day from the sarah boone case in the interrogation if you keep saying don't listen to patreon she's the lady who zipped her boyfriend up in a suitcase and she says repeatedly over and over not only in her interview she said to the psychologist too because on the stand they kept saying she kept saying quote we were having a good day and i'm like she keeps telling everyone that she want everybody to know everyone we were having a good day i just love that she she she thought she's getting away with it man the whole time from from investigation interrogation all the way to trial and verdict she thought they were going to come out and go don't drink booze anymore but have a good day her lawyer's closing argument it was the worst closing argument I've ever seen he threw like eight things out there and he goes I mean reasonable doubts you all don't even have to have the same reasonable doubt so you can have a doubt about one thing you can have a doubt about something else and that's fine I gotta doubt you don't have a law degree fuck.
Fuck. They showed the video over and over again.

It's like you could see the suitcase moving.

He's begging for his life, saying I can't breathe.

And she's like, fuck you.

Wasn't there like a drink in the Camerview too?

I don't know about that one.

A different one there was.

She was just filming.

They drank three liters of Woodbridge that day. Woodbridge Chnay god damn from a florida public someone's gonna die someone someone's life is gonna end if you're buying that much woodbridge chardonnay i'm sorry no one can drink that much woodbridge it's just not's going to die.
Somebody's going to die in some way, shape, or form. So he said we were totally in a good spot.
I would not hurt my wife, which I don't like. I don't either.
I didn't kill my wife is what I like. Yeah, I don't like the two words.
Would not. And then the minimization of hurt is not kill.
She's not hurt. Yeah.
Yeah. She doesn't feel anything.
I don't like the the two words would not and then the minima minimization of hurt is not kill she's not her dad yeah yeah so that she doesn't feel anything i don't like either one i don't like anything in that sentence there um so they searched the house an evidence technician with the police department uh said that he conducted a search of the house to see if there was a secondary crime scene in the house he found no secondary scene but he did find a pair of women's pants and underwear on the kitchen table she is a part she takes her underwear off just Throws them on the house. He found no secondary scene, but he did find a pair of woman's pants and underwear on the kitchen table.
She is a part. She takes her underwear off, just throws them on the table and frolics.
Awesome. The underwear matched what Kathleen had been wearing in photographs that she sent from her phone to his phone at 931 and 942 on the evening of her death.
The shirt that she was wearing that night was never recovered by police. don't know what where the hell it is no shirt no shirt so the shirt she was wearing when she got home yeah nowhere to be found wow anywhere in the house where'd it go it vaporized it's what i mean it couldn't it came off so fast disappeared maybe that's what her clothes are like dandelion spores she takes them takes them off and they go, and they just, more clothes grow.
Wow. So Kat's family here, this is her mom, says, It seems so impossible for the extreme sadness and grief we feel as the loss of our beautiful daughter Kat to ever diminish or decrease.
However, the Lord is our hope. So I hope he can turn our mourning into comfort.
She goes on to say, My family asked for your prayers and support in our time of loss. My beautiful daughter, Kat, was not just my daughter, but a cherished wife to Jeff as well as a loving mother to their daughter.
So much negativity is out there, but with God, all I see and hear is the goodness of my cat. My family and I ask for help in the services to lay our daughter to rest and where she will be.
And he goes, OK, there you go. So days go by.
No progress because they looked inside. There's no physical evidence of shit.
It's just she wandered out there and has a head injury from mystery or mysterious head injury. They don't have a weapon.
They don't have a fucking they can't put together. Yeah, they can't put together a timeline of what they think happened.

Their timeline ends at 1030 when Jeff said he went to bed.

And then it's, she could have wandered,

it could have been two in the morning, we don't know.

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And with that shirt missing, it adds to the mystery because who, the fuck whoever has that may that maybe that's the shirt. Yeah.
Where's the shirt? fuck there's at least two facebook groups with over 2 000 members at the time that popped up immediately created to discuss the case wow this is people trying to figure it out neighbors are concerned here and everything like that um one neighbor who lives two doors down said it's shocking that it happened so close to home. So all you can do is worry about and think about your family.

And that's all I've been doing.

No, this has nothing to do with your family, obviously.

You've been thinking about this.

Yeah, this has nothing to do with your family.

Come on.

So this guy was just like, I'm looking up that neighbor.

I really want to see.

I can't believe this was happening two doors down.

I had no idea.

I had no idea.

My dick should have been rock hard the whole time.

Well, he's sitting there looking through all the pictures going, no, I'm just looking for info, baby.

That's all it is.

Thank you. was happening two doors down i had no idea i had no idea my dick should have been rock hard the whole time well he's sitting there looking through all the pictures going no i'm just looking for info baby that's all it is i'm trying to trying to crack the case i'm i've always thought i could fancy myself a detective i think i can go through this this case is juicy oh boy i'll tell you what by the way meet me in the bedroom about five minutes would you darling i'm running down her gift list.
I'm going to get you a few things. Oh, I'm going to get you something.
You're going to look nice. Put something on here for the kids.
There you go, kids. Excellent.
There's some bluey, and I'm going to get me some blowy. Your dildo.
Bluey for you and blowy for me. Let's do this.
All right, then. So the word of the death is met with a lot of sadness.
Her friends, people she worked out with at the gym and all that kind of thing. One friend from the gym said she'd come in and do her thing and leave.
She kind of kept to herself. She'd wave and smile.
She was a nice lady. Yeah.
Yeah. Don't talk to me about my tits.
Leave me alone. Yeah.
It's tough. So the investigation, they're really – the cops, by the way, the – I think it's – what is it?

48 hours that they talked to the cops on this. And the cop, the Sergeant Mike Melhoff, the main investigator here, they asked him, had you heard of OnlyFans? Yeah.
And he said, no, ma'am. This is the first day he heard of this website? So, yeah, so now not only does he have to investigate investigate a murder but he's got to figure out a whole corner of the internet that he knows nothing about he's gonna blow his fucking mind he's uh i'll tell you what i spent a good week just looking into it i locked myself in a room and i said to my wife you leave me alone i made a list of all the females in my life and then i searched their names so you know And then I just looked for pretty ladies.
And then I just looked at all the results of those women. I feel like I got the lay of the land now.
You know, there's 963 genus. So they said, could one of her only fan subscribers have stalked and murdered her? And he said, do we have someone else out there that's actually killing people? He doesn't know.

So they said they needed to, they knew

they needed to cast a wider net than just

Jeff, considering there was

thousands and hundreds of people drooling

over her tits. It's

real possible that one of them

did it. He went to bed and somebody did something terrible to her.

So they sent Jeff home and they said

they spent about three weeks, quote, looking for other suspects, which is figuring out OnlyFans and how it works and putting subscriptions on the county's credit card. Well, we have to know how the subscriptions work.
Pause and taking long lunches. Yeah.
I'm going to go home and take a shower real quick. He said there were thousands of names that had to be called through in order to properly investigate this basically every one of her like social media followers had to be talked to asked about everything not just subscribers even she's got 50 000 instagram followers man go through that god damn it so i mean you know if a guy was in the philipp he's probably not the guy.
Pretty easy to write him off. Yeah.
As they continued to gather evidence, they said they had more public involvement than they even wanted. The internet went crazy.
This is, you know, now anytime past about 2016, anytime someone's murdered and it's not solved immediately, the internet wants to solve it. And they rarely do.
Sometimes they, once in a while. They're batting like real bad.
Real bad. But they're batting.
If you remember Sherry Papini, you understand that none of that shit was good. I'm here with Sherry Panini.
Papini! For every one of those, for 10,000 of those, there's one of the people, the group of people from Don't Fuck With Cats. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those people were doing great. Yeah.
They did fantastic. That's fucking great.
There's way too many panini ones. There's a lot of paninis out there.
So they had to continue doing this. The one person with the police force said, you had this huge online presence, these murder discussion Facebook groups.
While they may have started in started in cholera there were people from all over and they aren't quiet about their opinions it seemed everyone had an opinion on the way cat died yeah and everyone's opinion isn't just you know here's my opinion for whatever it's worth everyone's like this is what happened you fucking obviously i know i am fucking 4 000 miles away i'm in upper british British Columbia, but still, I think this is why. I've done some GPS in and I figured it out.
Right. So as the police gathered evidence, they said that they, yeah, just too much here.
They said, they're reading the comments and they say, it's the husband, the next person. I vote stalker.
It may have been a freak accident. It's all these, thanks, we know the options.
And also, it's the way she lived, people said. People would put, quote, I don't agree with her lifestyle.
She brought this on herself. She was proud to have such an amazing figure.
Good for her. You go, girl.
Empowerment and emergency. She's dead.
Good for her. She's dead.
Not good for her. You girl empowerment she's dead good for her she's dead not good for her you go girl you go girl everywhere between you go girl and she brought this on herself and everything in the middle ceo and everything in the middle wow holy fuck girl boss that's amazing so jeff's, Guy Carney, enters the picture here.
He worked with West as a security officer with Jeff, and he said he heard about the death of Cat, and he contacted Jeff, and Jeff told him what happened on the night Cat died. And this is Guy's statement.
He said, West just told me they had gone out friday night they had what i want to say he referred to as a date night they had you know you look you've never heard of that before he had his term for it i can't put i believe he's date night maybe was his term like that's not a commonly used phrase it's a fucking movie with tina fey man yeah what are he talking It came out in 2014. Jesus.
They had gone out that night. They had been consuming alcohol and that due to the fact that he was having to get up to go to work at Birmingham Southern College the following morning, that he had gone to sleep.
He laid on the couch to go to sleep and his wife was still awake staying up at that time. So he said the next morning he was woken up with the dogs barking.
The dog barking woke him up. He got up to see what the dog was barking about.
And at that time when he got up, he realized the front door was open. And he walked to the front door and looked outside.
And that's when he saw his wife laying in the yard or on the ground. So I got a cigarette.
So, yeah, he doesn't run out there and go, hey, oh, my God, that's the part. All of that's fine.
It's fine. Till the point where you go, the second you saw your wife, you didn't burst through the door in your boxer shorts to go fucking see what was wrong.
Because that's what a normal person would fucking do here. So Jeff on Facebook said, because now, I mean, people, he's now become a public figure.
So he said all the online chatter has really fucked everything up. And he said to the public, our tragedy is just juicy gossip.
He wrote on Facebook. Very, by the way.
It's, yeah, juicy. Incredibly.
So according to Jeff, like we said, he went to bed at 1030 and Kat stayed up. So the sergeant, the investigator said, now that's Jeff's version of what happened.
So then they figured out, though, they're figuring out technology. Oh.
Because they had to figure out OnlyFans. Now they're figuring out different apps on the phones here.
And they figured out that Jeff has a health tracker app on his phone. Yeah.
You know, the fitness one? Yeah. Mine just told me, congratulations, you broke a record today.
While you've been sitting on your ass for the last two hours matter of fact i think it told me time to stand up this laughing has been great for your heart rate what's going on with your heart buddy let's help with that shit so he said that a cat stayed up he said now that's je of what happened. Yeah.
Before long, that's what they unearthed.

And he said, well, the health app actually shows Jeff's phone moving as late as 10 minutes after 11 o'clock.

Yeah.

Which is fine.

Because if you go, I don't know, about 1030, unless you're like, I know what time and you're really on top of it.

If you've had a few drinks and you go, 1030 or 10 after 11 is the same thing.

There's also this little thing called, I went to bed, but my wife was up up so she could have picked up my phone she could have picked up my phone and checked into it looked into it or just i you know i decided i was going to go to bed around 10 30 and but then i wandered around and then i brushed my teeth and then i went in there and i went to sleep or whatever so um yeah so the sergeant said it's 10 minutes 11. And he said, he believes Jeff also lied about when he woke up that morning.
He told the cops that the dogs got him up by barking at the police cruisers. But a neighbor reported seeing Jeff before the police.
Remember the, they were on the phone with 911 and on, on the phone. They said, there's a guy right here in the doorway of the house.
Pacing around. Pacing Pacing.
So having laid out what they believe was Jeff's movements that night, they then looked at Kat's phones. They were like, her phone's got one of these trackers, too.
It's the greatest thing ever. You don't even have to be a good detective now.
You really don't. You got your phone? I'll solve the case.
Dude, if you watch the first 48 now, literally they sit them down and they go, we'll talk when we get your phone data. They don to let's just stare at each other let's just i'm gonna it won't matter i'll just check to see if the gps has you around where the fuck you were where the murder happened and if so i don't even need to talk to you just i'll tell you you're being charged and we'll put you in a cage that's fucking it it's wild now how easy it is so they said that uh they looked at her phone.
They found that. And it showed her phone had stopped moving 16 minutes before Jeff's phone stopped moving.
Uh-oh. That's not good.
No. But they said that doesn't help figure out what caused the wound.
Right. That doesn't mean she's moving and she's not.
Yeah. That doesn't give you a – she could have put her phone down.
She could have been drunk and put her phone down and wandered off. If you're going to go jump on the trampoline, you don't need your phone.
Right. So they don't know.
This is about a month later. They get test results from the absinthe bottle.
Yeah. It had a tiny sliver of glass chipped off of it.
Oh. Not enough to even cause a leak, as we know.
It was mostly full. Right.
Optimistic police officer there. But they did also find two spots of cat's blood on the bottom of it oh so now they're thinking murder weapon this could be what bashed her head in and the sergeant said we had jeff's fingerprints on it which he took a picture with it the night before fucking holding it i mean we know he touched we know he touched it um But they were actually saying they don't know if he touched it.
Because they're saying in the store, the footage they have, she's touching it. He never touches that bottle.
But it's sitting there. She could have said, can you pour me a drink? He could have said, I'll make you one.
Who knows? He could have brought it in the house. And that's the thing.
And the interviewer that's Maureen Maher, I think it's 48 hours she's or is it dateline one of the two either one she said wouldn't you expect that given this uh given that they bought it together and said they'd been drinking that his prints would be on it and the cop said oh absolutely okay so then what the fuck you're back to square one yeah it doesn't do anything he said though there was something specific about the prints that helped point the finger at jeff what's that? He said, basically, the fingerprints, if you were going to pour a bottle, your prints would be like this on a bottle. Grab whatever is in front of you as a bottle and hold it.
Some of the top pointer, yeah. But if you were going to hold it like a baseball bat, it would be the opposite.
You'd have it upside down. Nobody pours liquor like that.
I've never seen, unless you're Tom Cruise in cocktail and you're flipping fucking bottles no one holds a bottle like that right so that was the thing they said that basically the bottle was held inverted much like he'd be holding it like a club yeah now at the same time if it was in a bag and he took it out yeah you take it out the same way so there's probably i probably have five wine bottles in my fucking house that have the exact same pattern of my fingerprints on them, which is interesting. They said that Jeff's thumbprint was found in a downward position on the bottle, and his ring finger was found over here, which she was demonstrating.
So Kat's phone, they said the last time she moved, according to the data, was at 1054 p.m., and it recorded 87 steps. Now, datat alarm system see what i mean these cops don't even damn between all of the this shit they don't even really they used to have to go like fucking talk to people right and get clues now you just need apps now you're just you just call companies and say give me your data when was this accessed and how did it work yeah so.
So the ADT alarm system shows that they should have got SimpliSafe.

It would have been much better.

Honestly.

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So it showed the front door to the West Home opened at 10.53 in one second, which is a minute before Kat stopped moving, and closed at 10.53 in 11 seconds. So it's only open for 10 seconds.
It opened again at 1.51 and 46 seconds in the a.m. Oh, boy.
2 a.m. According to her phone, she has stopped moving and he's been asleep for two hours.
Yeah. And remained open until 4, 12, and 45 seconds a.m.
Yeah. Almost three.
151 to 4, 12. Yeah.
Two and a half hours. That's a lot.
Wow. At that time, it closed.
And then the police said they responded to the scene shortly after 5 a.m. Okay.
So that's interesting. If you were asleep, sir, you got a ghost in this motherfucker.
No shit. Or Kat dropped her phone, wandered out at 2 o'clock in the morning, but then who closed the door at 412? Who came back? Yeah.
Who closed it, dude? That's the thing. Someone closed it.
Yeah. It wasn't you.
You said you got up 5 o'clock. Golly.
So there's a lot of shit that's not lining up. So February 22nd, 2018, it's a little over a month later, they announced they're going to arrest Jeff for it.
Is that right? Based on, I mean, it doesn't get any more circumstantial. I mean, he's certainly lying.
He's lying. Yep.
And that's not's, I mean, it's very circumstantial. But the circumstances, all the circumstances lead to no other real answer to this question.
All the circumstances say husband. Yeah.
The bell said it a million and a half dollars. But why? That's pretty high.
That's half a million dollars. But why? I don't understand why he, what's his motive here.
I understand that's not part of the legal thing. But yeah, for my curiosity, I sure as fuck need to know.
Are you killing your circumstantial shit? You should certainly have a motive nailed down. Yeah.
Why are you killing your wife who's, you know, hot and banging you and bringing in threesomes and making money? What the fuck are you killing her for? Jesus. So her friend Brittany says Jeff should have never been arrested.
Oh. They don't believe Jeff did shit.
She firmly believes that the police failed to fully investigate the hundreds of OnlyFans subscribers who had paid to see her content. Investigate all these guys.
Jeff's attorney here is asked, did you ever consider that maybe someone for her online life could have played a role in what happened to her that night? And this is they said that we looked into that and there just wasn't that evidence out there. So there's no evidence that an OnlyFans online user was involved in her death.
They said that. But his attorney, Jeff's attorney, says what the evidence does show is that Kat wasn't murdered.
What does it show? Their defense isn't that someone else did it. Their defense is it wasn't murder at all.
It was an accident. The lawyer said she fell and hit her head.
And Jeff's parents, Jerry and Susie, they agree too. They said they're not sure how she hit her head, but they don't think that the authorities can prove that she didn't hit her head either.
So they don't think their son, they think their son's going to be fine. His dad, Jerry West, not the basketball player, said they set out to get Jeff.
There was no investigation. And then they also, the mom said, I know he's innocent.
And then the dad said, I don't care what anybody says. He did not do this.
Jeff's parents say he's incapable of harming his family. And I mean, but a lot of people say that.
Yeah. That's very common.
Ted Bundy's mother, he was in the electric chair and she was still saying he was innocent. He's a good boy.
After he was telling them where heads were. Yeah.
Still. He's a good boy.
He's like, he didn't do it. I know that this is a mistake, so that's fine.
But they said, you know, that's normal. But the thing that's not normal is her parents fucking agree 100%.
Wow. Even the victim's parents are saying that he didn't do it, which is tough.
If you're the prosecutor, because those are the ones who file charges, actually. Yeah, that's your guy.
You file charges. You don't even have the victim's family supporting you right that's tough yeah you got to go to the family and say all the evidence says this and they go well it's wrong recalculate and they go we were calculated and they go you're a lying sack of shit and then you're like now you get the victim's family against you in court that's one thing that's like good the prosecutor the victim's family those are all kind of lockstep They're supposed to be on the same team.
Yeah, this is wild. Her cat's dad, John, said he's honorable and he loved my daughter.
I know he didn't do it. And then the mom, Nancy, said he didn't do this.
She spoke publicly. This is the mother and said cat's mother and said that her daughter was an alcoholic who suffered from bipolar disorder.
she's coming ma i got kids she's telling this is what normally what a defense attorney would say yeah when they they would have to trash family would fucking cry their eyes out how dare you say that about my family she's saying she's saying my daughter goes off and wanders off drunk she'll hit her head on something that could very happen happen, and you're damning a good man. She said that she believes Kat died from a fall.
She said her daughter, quote, fell all the time, especially when drunk. Wow.
She's clumsy, and she said she'd get drunk, jump on the trampoline, take off her clothes, wander around the neighborhood. She's like a naked, fainting goat.
Yeah. She's like a two-and-a-half-year-old.
Yeah. That's what old.
That's what two and a half year olds do. She's running around in a diaper.
They just pull clothes off and while you're like, what the fuck are you doing? How did that kids just strip their clothes off? We're in Target, put it back on. They're trying to get the last fucking pant leg off their foot and you're like, stop! Take your shoes off first, you dummy.
Jesus Christ. So, yeah, she said that's what it is.

And the father said or the mother said he didn't do this. He's a good man.
He loved her with all her heart. Shocking.
Her parents said she was conspicuously clumsy. Even when sober, she fell down.
When drinking, she was a fucking mess. Wow.
Falling down all the time. Nancy said said that

the 13 year old daughter stayed with her and her husband until jeff was arrested and uh he said she'll stay would be staying with them he said uh they said i trust him with my whole heart that's what nancy cat's mom said both of the mothers here who now say they're attached at the hip this is jeff's mom and cat's mom say the blood alcohol level was extremely high and neither of them believe that online exhibitionism was a factor here they don't think somebody came and stalked her and killed her they think she fucking fell because she's drunk yeah that's it like a mom defense voltron that's wonderful they come together And Jeff's mom said he wasn't jealous. He knew she was sick and needed the attention.
Okay. So, but this is her mom.
Nancy. Yeah, Nancy said she was not aware of that part of her daughter's life until after her death.
She didn't know she was doing all that OnlyFans shit. Well, yeah, because you don't tell your mom that.
But when she found out, she wasn't surprised at all. She said Kat was very insecure and always has been.
So this makes sense to me here. She said she wanted everyone to think she was beautiful.
Wow. She said nothing, nothing on earth could make her think Jeff is guilty.
Now, she said, now I've seen all the evidence they have. Nothing could make me think he's guilty.
They don't have the evidence, and I believe him, and I know he didn't do it. She said if there was a video of the death showing Jeff killing her actively, she would think it was doctored.
She wouldn't even believe that. That's crazy.
Now you're delusional. Yeah, you're at the level of...
I believe it if I saw you doing that. Yeah.
You know what I mean? I know you way better than she knows him it's delusions yeah so and britney the friend cat's friend said she could have run outside in the street right because she was so intoxicated she said anything's possible yeah my friend that's not out of the range of if you said if you called me up and said cat died she was drunk in the middle of the night and ran around in the street and fell and hit her head she'd go oh that makes sense you know we got a friend that uh you'd be surprised crossed a freeway oh yes we do we don't think that's murder no i believe exactly what the cops think it is yep i think he he did some shit a lot of times we know that he had substance problems from time to time and um and he was going it might have been it might have been suicide maybe sure as fuck wasn't murder. Nobody did that to him.
Nope. It was either an accident or suicide, but it wasn't murder.
He did that to them. Yeah, that's sad.
It was a great comic. God damn it.
God damn underrated comic. He's one of the guys that makes you want to fucking hunt down TikTok people who get booked at comedy clubs and sell out and burn their houses down.
Or worse over one. Because they have no talent, no experience.
and this was a guy who could kill and was so poor he will kill at will for an hour and was so poor he had to run across a texas freeway for more booze for more booze fucking sad god he played drunk frogger and lost and lost and we've got dildos that sell out constantly and live in the lap of luxury. Fucking unbelievable from three seconds of internet fame.
Oh my god. Ridiculous.
Jeff's lawyer said she was not hit in the head with that bottle. He said it's clear because Jeff is a righty and the prints at the bottom of the bottle were from his left hand.
So he wouldn't even swing with that. It would be very.
Yeah. If you were going to try to kill somebody with a swing, it wouldn't be six drinks.
Wouldn't be with your offense. God, no.
Fuck no. And the lawyer said the bottle was in a bag.
You would pull the bottle out of the bag in the same way with your thumbprint down and it would make sense. You'd use your left hand to do that certainly but you definitely wouldn't use your off hand as your kill hand no stabbing people when you stab someone is with your fucking power hand you hit somebody it's with your power hand so that's interesting he said i've handled well over a hundred murder cases never went forward on a murder case where the manner of death was classified as undetermined it's not not even classified as a homicide.
Yeah. It's not even classified as a homicide.
The corner doesn't even know. They don't know.
So it's pretty fucking wild. And that's a really good explanation for the handprints, too.
Sure. So as much as that's circumstantial evidence of him doing it, it's also just as much circumstantial evidence clearing him of it.
It both more than i think i think it's straight up

evidence that he didn't do it yeah the left hand to me says there you go unless he did that but

then he wouldn't unless he's been hiding from us this whole time he's actually left-handed

just as good with his life he just grew up super catholic and they told him not to use it

so they said what do you think happened to cat that night they asked the lawyer he said in a

nutshell she fell she hit her head she got up yeah did it again they found they said they what do you think happened to Kat that night? They asked the lawyer. He said, in a nutshell, she fell.
She hit her head. She got up and did it again.
They said they found Jeff was dressed in the same clothes as in the security video from the night before. So he didn't clean up, toss his clothes.
And this is what he said. He said there was nothing on his clothes, no liquor, no blood, no bodily fluid, no tissue, no hair.
There was no hair on the bottle. There's no glass in's no glass in her wound what so where'd that sliver of glass go yeah he said despite more likely would be she had the bottle and was drunk outside and dropped it and then picked it up even and then wandered around and drank some more with it who knows so they said and despite this they said there's no real effort to consider any other suspects either it's just basically it was an accident or he did it.
Right. And we're saying it's not an accident.
Too much. We're saying it wasn't murder.
Well, yeah. So they said the only person they ever looked at was Jeff and they never really looked at whether it was an accident or not.
And so the police, Maureen Maher, asked the sergeant here, was there ever a time you or anyone else in the police department looked into the possibility of it being an accident? His answer, absolutely not. Wow.
Okay, well, I think you, if the coroner determined, medical examiner determines homicide, then you go, no, because the medical examiner said it's a homicide. But when it's undetermined and everyone that knows her thinks it's an accident, I think you at least have to look into the possibility that it might be an accident.
So yeah, absolutely not, is his answer. He said, I don't want to sit here and say that I immediately ruled out an accident, but just the head trauma alone, knowing that the body had been moved, it was very hard to try to look at this as an accident.
Yeah. And she's incredibly hot.
We got to solve this. Yeah, we got to solve it.
You see how blonde she is? You see how sexy she is? She's blonde. That's a waste.
OnlyFans is going to be sufferers. She's hot and blonde.
We got to find this. But the other thing, and I don't know how this would work.
Could she have fallen, fallen down, gotten back up again, repositioned herself, fallen down again? Because if you have a head wound like that, you get dazed, you fall out. I've seen boxing.
Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, like a head wound, I don't know.
So anyway, Jeff's lawyer here said it's not hard to explain at all. They said the two blood pools at the scene suggest the cat fell, got up, fell again.
Okay. He said because it's clear that she moved around after she had the head injury.
And the defense lawyer said he's whittled down his entire case to only one witness, and that's Kat's mother. So my case is Kat's mother.
If she's not fucking buying it, why should you buy it? You know, that's not, this isn't the justice she wants or thinks is a thing, so you're going to overrule her. She knows them.
Yeah, and she has as much information as the cops, you or anybody else has about this shit. So there's a bail reduction hearing here.
Yeah. And Jeff here claims that he's being illegally detained and unlawfully denied liberty by the excessive bail amount.
You are being held for murder, sir. That's legal.
We're holding you for murder. So we're going to hold you for a while there.
The motion states that he poses no real and present danger to others himself or the public

at large if allowed to be released.

That doesn't matter.

And also, we don't know that.

We don't know that.

Also, that's not why they're holding you.

They're holding you to make sure you don't run away because you have a murder charge

over your fucking head.

So they said the main purpose of Bond historically is to ensure the presence of the accused in court to address the charges. And his lawyer says it should not be used as punishment.
Says Jeff is certainly looking forward to defending himself at trial in this case. There's absolutely no evidence that he's a flight risk.
He was honorably discharged from the army after 21 years of service, has no criminal record, was gainfully employed up until his arrest, has strong ties

to the community, and a desire to clear his name.

All fine.

The attorney says that he maintains his innocence.

He says he's heartbroken over the death of his wife and the disruption that this case

has caused his family.

He's also concerned about his daughter and how the loss of her mother is affecting her

and he can't be there to help.

He said, Jeff is a good man, a good husband, a good father. father when it's all said and done we anticipate a successful outcome of this case prosecutor says tell you what want a deal let's offer you a deal oh he offers jeff a deal and he offers him a deal that jeff could take without admitting he did anything an alfred play exactly He's going to say, you can just say you have evidence and we have enough evidence, but you don't admit your guilt.
He would just have to acknowledge that the state had enough evidence to likely convict. Wow.
And also, if the judge accepts that deal, it means that Jeff would be let off with time served and two years probation basically you accept this deal you'll be out by the end of the week you'll be back with your daughter by the end of the week what do you do and that you say yes do you fuck yeah you say yes and the second you leave the court you go I didn't fucking do that shit I took the deal because who the fuck knows what's gonna happen in court but I didn't fucking do it you think they would have given me a deal where i could walk out with time served if i they thought i killed her this is they know they wanted to clear their books and keep died i'd make it about them fuck those people yeah if it was me and i didn't actually kill my wife if it was him and i killed my wife i would or if him and not kill your wife i don't know so i'm taking that deal does trial is risky yeah i don't know no matter what trial's risky yeah and down there you never know yeah and pictures of her she's gonna be beautiful you're a troll right it doesn't look good it just doesn't yeah and the prosecution go maybe he was getting jealous and people go i'd be jealous if i was look at That's what I mean. So they ask the defense attorney, what does it tell you as a defense attorney when the prosecution offers that kind of deal? And he said, that tells you as a defense lawyer, the prosecution has some problems with the case.
They got nothing. And they recognize.
And that's what it is. They have nothing.
And the defense has the victim's family on their side. So it's a tough sell to this jury if they want to have a jury but um and according to the prosecutors plea deals are standard in every case they're usually not it's not like this not in murder cases in murder cases they offer you you know second degree and 25 to life rather than first degree and life without or the death penalty or like you know second degree in life with parole or some shit they don't say you can leave tomorrow every one of those deals would get taken every single one of them um and the lawyer told jeff this is a reasonable offer and it doesn't get any better than this pretty much and the lawyer said he rejected it immediately He didn't do it man jeff said no if you you have to be either the craziest narcissist lunatic in the world yeah or very innocent yeah one of the two here he didn't do it how the fuck did he not go outside then this is blowing my mind how would you not go out how would you watch people go yeah it looks like my wife out there she looks dead i guess i'll just smoke a cigarette what the fuck looks like her shit dude it's so weird and they said why did he reject the offer and the lawyer said because he says i cannot say i'm guilty of something that i didn't do which the alfred plea doesn't make you even say you're guilty.
It says they have evidence. Not I'm guilty.
If they made him do an allocution and everything then yeah. If he has to go up there and go yeah I bashed your fucking head in.
If you apologize for what I did then yeah. That's different.
If you just go they have evidence but I didn't fucking do it and you can still get the deal and walk out do it. Who cares.
But they said that he decided to roll the dice and take his chances in court. And the defense attorney said he understands the risks of going to trial.
He gets it. Judge banned cameras from the courtroom.
But 48 Hours was there taking notes. They followed this story.
Sure. They were like, she's really hot.
We're going to go down to Alabama and just camp out for a while. What do you think? Hi, this is Lester Holt.
I live here now. I've just rented a house, and it's lovely.
A registered voter down here now. Looking for other blonde women on OnlyFans.
I've heard this is where there's a hotbed of horny. I hear there's a hot prostitution ring going on with sexy milfs down here.
That's part two of this story. David Muir just moved here, too, that sandbagging son of a bitch.
That's some bitch. So anyway, they sat with, this is Nancy Martin.
The Martins sat with Jeff's mother, Carolyn, during the hearing. They held each other's hands, the mothers and everything.
They're like fucking Laver shirley these two uh john robbins a defense attorney believes the prosecutors have problems with their case and um you know before the trial he said they talked with more they called with more talk of a plea deal he rejected they called back yeah they're like what less can you offer though i mean you know you can just leave after you hang up just yeah just say they have enough evidence and then hang up and then you can just go. We'll just let you right out.
Wow. Nope.
And the defense attorney said, we discussed what would it take to settle the case, but they could not come to terms. The prosecution also notified the court that it was making a filing of new evidence, texts between Jeff and Kat, the ones that we showed.
And the sergeant said it was apparently a very volatile relationship. Okay.
That's what they're saying. It sounded like pretty normal, and they drink a lot, so that's also part of it.
That's a very drunk, been together nine years argument. 14! And if one of the parties is bipolar, too, and if you're with somebody that long and you recognize when the phases come on if you see someone's getting manic yep and sending shit that's when you're ignoring those and you're like this will blow over de-escalating i love you i love you i love you de-escalate so maybe that's part and we're not trying to just i don't know i'm randomly defend him i'm just trying to we're trying to find anything what is fucking anything anything here because this is confusing.
So the jury is nine women, three men. I'm just trying to, we're trying to find anything.
What ifs? Fucking anything. Anything here, because this is confusing.

So the jury is nine

women, three men. I don't know if that's

good for him or not. No, I don't think so.

I think he could have probably got that a little bit

better on the dice. Should have been six and six.

Although the guys would have

probably said, you think

you're

jealous of her tits. Fuck you.

You did this. I would have been fine.
Come on.

Get out of here. So the

prosecution tells the jurors here

I don't know. You're jealous of her tits.
Fuck you. You did this.
I would have been fine. Come on.

Get out of here.

So the prosecution tells the jurors here in the openings that the Wests did not have a harmonious marriage. And it was reading from the text.
You're throwing away almost 14 years of a relationship. She'd written about a week before she died.
You don't want me. Fine.
Someone will. I always want you, he replied.
They said, yeah, that's how it goes. They told the jury in the first day of testimony here that he used a liquor bottle to kill his wife with a blow to the head.
And he said, why hasn't he called this in? Talking about the 911 call saying he was there. He would later say that he was sleeping.
It did not result from a fall, the prosecutor said.

The severity of the head wound indicated that when this person got hit,

they were going down fast.

Okay.

Now, the defense talks about how the text, yeah, there was text,

but they went from fighting to erotic.

Yeah, in no time for that. So fast that the defense says, we're going to use these to defend ourselves like you can just as easily use to defend look at how quickly they make up next thing you know she's saying i want you to come over here and finger me so what the fuck you know uh the defense attorney said to me it's a bunch of baloney it's supposed to show the volatile marriage that they had she's mad at him one minute sending naked pictures to him saying she loves him the next.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's what happens. Um, yeah, that's a,

that's what happens um yeah that's a that's better than fucking yeah no makeup the defense attorney said anytime cat said something uh that quote can be considered an argument his response is i love you i want you you sexy. He knows exactly what she wants to hear.
Sure does.

And that's what that is.

He showed, so the defense attorney showed a couple dozen more text messages that showed intimacy and love between the couple.

Jeff repeatedly referred to his wife in multiple messages as sexy mama.

And Kat often sent him photos of herself topless and in provocative positions.

God damn it.

She's an awesome wife.

What a great wife. So he would reply, quote, your picture's hot as fuck.
Fuck yeah, it was. Your picture's hot as fuck.
What else do you say, though? Well, there's no way to be eloquent. That's all I've got.
There's no way to be eloquent. That's all I'm going to say.
All the blood is rushing somewhere away from your brain. How the fuck are you supposed to? Holy shit, look at those.
They want us to have these things to say all i got is the my god those are awesome the blood has left my brain yeah the part of me that forms words and sentences it's gone from there i want to suck them shit shit i'm so sorry he replied to one of her photos saying looking good sexy mama which sounds like he's a trucker from the 70s. Hey, looking good,

sexy mama. Break a break of 19,

sexy mama. Oh, baby, you see that mud flaps on her, buddy.
I'll tell

you what. Oh, Jesus, I don't think that's

a compliment, man.

Truckers, you never

know.

She replied to him at one point,

thank you for making me feel

sexy. I love you.
So she,

they know what each other

wants at this point. And she knows what he means when

he's She replied to him at one point, thank you for making me feel sexy. I love you.
So they know what each other wants at this point. And she knows what he means when he says that shit.
Exactly. So the defense attorney said the state's case is based solely on circumstantial evidence.
Nobody's going to come in here and tell you Jeff hit his wife in the head with a bottle. The medical examiner's not even going to tell you she was murdered.
So definitely not going to say how it happened. We're very confident that when you hear all the evidence in the case, you will come to the conclusion that there's no murder here.
There's no killing. Jeff is not guilty.
Right. So he also told the jury that the only reason national media and even local media were covering the trial is because she had pictures with her boobs out, literally.
He said, I find that to be a little sad. If it weren't for the kitty cat website, no one would be interested.
And it's true. They wouldn't.
Funny name. Yeah.
Does he mean the cougar one, or does he mean OnlyFans? No, no, her, kitty cat. She goes by kitty cat West.
That's how she does it. So he said there's no discord between the couple about the adult photos, if they're going to try to say he's jealous.
He says, yes, she had a website. She posed nude.
She did that for her own self-esteem. Jeff was fully aware of what his wife did and assisted her in it.
Yeah. He's trying to make her happy, it feels like.
He's a fucking cameraman. So the sergeant who investigated this whole thing, he gets on the stand, Mike Melhoff, and he says, I wouldn't want to speculate as to, you know, what drove him to that point, but I can certainly say that I feel that, yes, he's the one responsible for his wife's death.
That's not real convincing, Sarge. No.
I mean, I can't tell you why, how, when, really. Yeah, and he did.
He's, he's, I know he's the one, but I know he's responsible somehow. Jesus.
I can't prove anything. I have no evidence.
Kat's mom testifies that she herself witnessed Kat in an intoxicated state go outside barefoot in any kind of clothes, underwear included, whether it was hot or cold, in various staging, varying stages of dress and undress. When she heard her daughter fell down on the side of the road naked and cold, she was not surprised.
Nope. At all.
She was like, God damn it. I told her to stop doing that.
Literally. She said her daughter was a heavy drinker who had problems stopping herself once she started drinking.
Yeah. She just keep drinking.
She said she could not drink just one drink. She testified her daughter would be up drinking long after anyone else who joined her drinking would go to bed.
She just sit up by herself. Whoever they would go away and she'd be like, I'll see you later.
And she'd stay up and drink one more. And her mom said that is when she would go wander around outside and take her clothes off and shit.
Wow. Yeah, would frequently do that.
She said that it was not strange to wake up in the middle of the night and see her half-naked dancing outside. All by herself.
All by herself in the dark with a bottle. Whew.
Just drinking. So she goes, I could see her doing this and happening.
What is that? daughter, she saw her daughter alive two days before she was found dead. She said that her and her husband took her to a follow-up visit after she got a breast job six weeks earlier.
She just got new boobs? New tits. Damn it.
You don't. Here's the thing.
Yeah. I'm going to say this.
This is going to sound crass. Yeah.
But I'm going to say this as a reality thing. You do not spend $8,000 on tits and then kill them.

I'm not wasting $10,000. And I said them, not her, because that's what he, if you're a murderer who looks at your wife as someone you could kill, you go, I own those tits and I just bought them and I'm going to get my use out of them.

$10,000 just laying in the gutter?

No way.

Not happening.

Not once.

Probably not.

So they said that, yeah, that's how that went.

By the way, she is the lone defense witness, Nancy Martin. Really? Cat's mother, the lone defense witness.
She said she saw Jeff at the funeral home where Jeff broke down while picking out a casket and was having a very hard time doing all this shit. She said, I know it hurt me, but I can't imagine how he felt.
Wow, her daughter. Her daughter.
So they asked the prosecution, this is 48 hours doing this, were you surprised at how supportive Kat's parents, particularly her mother was, of the man the police say killed her daughter? And she said, you know, I can't really recall another case where the mother of the victim and the father of the victim were so attached to the suspect. Kat's parents are even giving Jeff legal advice.
They help convince him not to testify. So they want him to get off on this, which you don't see this very often.
You'll see it in our cases sometimes in the beginning. But then once evidence comes out they're like uh we changed our minds the other part too of being a mom or a parent really of a murdered child if you don't said that like your kid yeah yeah being the father of a murdered child no in my experience of having but if if there if if he didn't do it and we're sure he didn't do it if they convict him of it they're closing this dark exactly if if i believe that he didn't do it and we're sure he didn't do it, if they convict him of it, they're

closing this. Exactly.

If I believe that he didn't do it, I'm

riding this till the wheels fall off so that

force these motherfuckers to get back to work and find

who did this. Especially if you don't think anyone

did it. If you think it was a fucking accident, you just

feel bad. You don't want anybody

to suffer for something that my drunk daughter

did. Your grandkids are losing

both her parents now for this? This is crazy. So the physical evidence they put out, two-inch wound to the skull, the medical examiner said it did not appear to have been caused by a fall, which then why wouldn't they rule it a homicide? Yeah.
That makes no sense. The force of the blow pushed the woman's brain into its stem, they said.
Good God. That's a lot.
That's a tough fucking shot. That's a big blow.
Yeah. Said it was a considerable amount of force to cause an injury like that.
Scalp wounds bleed like mad. The brain is very vast.
It's a very vascular structure. Yeah.
They said that, testified that it wasn't likely that she fatally was wounded from falling, particularly because she was only about 5'2". She had less room to fall.
So they said, how about the object they believed killed her? And they said whatever it was had an edge, but it wasn't sharp. There you go.
So we didn't cut it from that, but it had an edge. Like a rock.
Now the bottle, they said that two swabs taken of the bottom of the lucid absinthe bottle,

the prosecutors say, tested positive for her blood.

Also testing positive for her blood was a towel taken from the master bathroom, which...

Could be anything.

I was going to say, I can't imagine how many people, there's a little bit of their blood on a towel in their master bathroom.

Forget it.

If I change my blade on my razor? Exactly. Oh, it's everywhere.
Exactly. It's a bloodbath in there.
You could pop a pimple. It's crazy.
I mean, there's so many ways to bleed in the bathroom. It's not even fucking funny.
And a white tank top retrieved from the laundry basket. Under cross-examination, they said there was no way to tell how long the bloodstains have been there on the towel or the tank top.
Sure. Might have been there for a month.
We have no idea. So in the closing arguments here, the DA tries to tie together this theory.
He says Jeff lost his temper with his wife. He said he had a problem with her drinking and her social media usage, which no one else on earth said or thought.
Yeah. And as drunk as they both were, they're both the same amount of drunk.
That's what I mean. They were trading off drinks.
They stopped. Here's your bottle.
Here's my bottle. That's not, I have a problem with your drinking.
You have your own. Yeah.
The prosecutors say the evidence from the night shows it. Jeff had thrown her phone into the street and clubbed her to death with the liquor bottle when she went after it.
And he says that the way the bottle and phone were positioned convinced authorities it could not have been an accident. They said those are the two items stacked perfectly together right there on the street next to her body.
That's what they said. But the defense attorney said there's no evidence added to that.
He said he does not have a history of violence either. This isn't where there's been 10 domestic violence calls.
There's no history of violence in the sky. He's never been arrested for shit.
Escalated fast. Real fast.
So the prosecutor, before it goes to the jury, the prosecutor asks, in the last minute move, they convince the judge to let the jury consider a lesser charge than murder, too. Okay.
Which, they tried to offer an Alford plea, now they're offering this. This is, we don't believe in our case.
Yes. They offered.
They said, how about reckless manslaughter? Put that in there, too, which that's like a total accident because you were fucking around doing something. And the defense attorney said they were afraid that they were going to lose the case.
Right. And this guy said the defense attorney said he wasn't real happy about the last minute lesser charge they introduced.
You're trying to the guy for fucking murder. You made a shit case, and now you're like,

well, how about this then?

How do I save my case?

Yeah.

So the jury deliberates for less than five hours,

which, I mean, Christ, we deliberate for a month about this.

Yeah.

And they find him guilty of reckless manslaughter.

Is that right?

You gave the jury a way out is what you did.

Sure did.

And they knew it.

Murder's a step too far. Yep.
With the mom saying no and all that, murder's a step too far but they want to hold someone responsible because the prosecution's saying she was killed so they don't know how to do it so that's what they're... That's fucked up.
That's just a compromise verdict which happens all the time with juries. When you have 12 people together and you want them to agree on something.
And they sat through this, not just the jury, but the prosecutor sat through. They know what they just did.
They know what they do. I couldn't I wouldn't be able to do it.
No shit. So both sets of parents were stunned by the verdicts.
Yeah. The his dad, Jerry West, said that was shit.
And, you know, yeah, which is a great lie lie i would love my dad to say that if i'm if i'm convicted of anything i want my father to go that was shit and you know it even if there was a pile of evidence i want my dad to say that dad said that shit about the patriots win every time that was shit and you know it god damn it bullshit tuck rule my ass Tom Brady. I was sh you fumbled you fucking mad maddie ice gave the game away with shit and you know it shit and you know it that's fucking funny her father said i couldn't believe it i really couldn't they were just shocked that's a less frustrated man saying it's shit you know it's shit you know it yeah i couldn't believe it he hasn't even got to that part he'll get there he was still unbelieving you give him to 15 minutes he would have went now i believe it and it's shit and you know it you you know it's shit he was in too much disbelief to say he didn't have it locked and loaded yet now they bring in the 15 year old daughter during sentencing to plead for her father here, to plead for her father.
I hope she says it's shit and you know it. It's shit and you know it.
She said, he's always been my shield against the world. Please give me my father back as soon as possible.
Also, the mother-in-law, Nancy Martin, she also testified on his behalf and said it's a total shock of what happened. This is ridiculous.
Please set him free. Set him free.
The judge, however, saw things differently. Really? And saying that he had plenty of time to take accountability for Kat's death during sentencing and didn't.
Oh, my God. He said, for your own reasons, you don't intend to do so so so the jury had to do that for you you sir may fuck off 16 years oh my god which we just did a case last year where that last week where the lady got exactly 16 years for like a brutal murder that we know she did and it was like fucked too.
And she's out or she's like almost out?

Yeah, almost.

Yeah, she gets out for a while.

So with credit for time served,

Jeff will be behind bars for 13 more years.

God damn.

So the prosecutor said it was kind of a split decision.

Are you kidding?

You had no evidence.

You got a conviction.

That's pretty good.

The reactions here,

the assistant district attorney who tried the case said obviously we would have preferred a murder verdict, but we're glad to get a sentence as we did. We can't believe it.
Even though we were going to let him go. It was shit and we know it.
We were planning on letting him go. Yeah.
But we're happy the judge wasn't going to do that. For the defense, Jeff said he knows if he had accepted the plea deal, he'd already be home.
Wow. Like this would be all over with for him.
I'm a dummy. I would have done the same thing, man.
I would have taken that fucking deal. We have gone over way too many trials, but they're so unpredictable.
I can... Fuck yeah, I'll say anything you want.
Get me the fuck out of prison. Whatever leaves me free to say whatever I want after this.
Then I'll get out and say, I didn't fucking do it. That's crazy, and you know it.
It's the only reason they gave me that fucking deal. Shit, and you know it.
So, the attorney also says, in retrospect, he probably should have taken the deal. Well, no shit.
Wow. His parents both say, we all think he's not guilty, and they sat down with the West there and they said, who thinks he got a fair trial? And Jerry West, the dad, said, nobody.
And this is with all four parents. Nobody thinks that.
They believe the judge threw the book at Jeff in sentencing for refusing to settle the case and putting everybody through a trial. So they said that, you know, also they were upset that her daughter's been judged harshly in the court of public opinions, basically, as well.
The only bummer, James, is that fucking door, that door closing. The door, and also the movement on the phone.
It's not good. It's not good, but that's all they have.
I'm not saying I don't think he did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think he probably did it. He had something to do with it.
Nobody else has any reason yeah the door is open and closed it's just too much unless she was was she wandering around till four in the morning too that seems wandering around and not going and looking at what's over there on the other side of the road you know it's your wife you see a blonde head it's in the road you know it's her probably because she's not in bed with you so anyway um the mother nancy here cat mom, said it was the fact that she was doing these things that small towns don't understand. Right.
So bring it back to small town murder here. Her friend, Brittany, is crying and said she's gone.
That's heart-wrenching. They have a daughter that's in the mix of everything.
And they said, that's what her mom said. Cat's mom said, yeah, it there's a child involved here and every week lola goes with her grandparents to see jeff in jail jesus he said are the four of you sticking together just for the sake of lola and they all laughed and said no and nancy said we're all family man so they said when jeff does get out of prison this will be a family with someone missing still because Kat's gone.
And they said they asked on 48 Hours, they asked her parents, or they asked how would you like her to be remembered? And Jeff's dad said a kind, caring mother. And Nancy said a kind, caring person who loved her husband and loved her daughter very much.
Apparently Lola's being raised jointly by both sets of grandparents. They're like trading her back and forth.
2021, Jeff files a motion. He wants his guns back.
What? He's not going to get them in jail, I don't think. You can't have them.
But he formally requests the return of his guns and other property confiscated during the investigation. None of that had anything to do with this.
They said she wasn't shot. They seized firearms from his home and truck during the investigation.
They were not in evidence in the case and had nothing to do with the death. And an autopsy found, obviously, the blunt force trauma.
He requested his guns, along with other seized property, to be released to his father. The guns were passed down to West from his grandfather.
Oh, they're antiques. They're heirlooms.
And he intends to give them to his son if he ever has one, he said. Or if he ever gets out or if his daughter's into shooting.
So 2022, he appeals. He argued that the circuit court erred in denying his motion for a judgment of acquittal.
Because at the end of the case, before it went to jury, they asked for an immediate acquittal. Here, let's do a pre and the judge said no going which is just standard every case does that and they always say no so he said the state failed to meet the burden of proof to satisfy requirements of his guilt and though he was indicted for murder he was convicted of a lesser included offensive manslaughter they said the charge this is the law the charge upon which the conviction rests is the only charge that is subject to appellate review.
So the record reflects that West moved for a judgment of acquittal, notwithstanding the verdict and a motion for a new trial. He argued that the evidence was not sufficient to support the verdict and that the verdict was contrary to the great weight of evidence.
He argued in a brief that this conviction was against the weight of evidence because the victim had a history of alcohol abuse. The manner of her death was fucking inconclusive.
It's still not a homicide. Her high degree of intoxication presented a finding of an accidental death and her injury was not inconsistent with a fall.
The majority of the arguments were not supported by the evidence that was presented at trial is what the appeals court said and his appeal is denied. Damn it.
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That's Calera, Alabama. We don't know if he did it or not.
I mean. That's a mystery.
He's got too much saying he did. Yep.
But he's also got everybody saying he didn't. It's great.
I think he did it, and I don't think they had enough evidence to convict him of it. It really makes you wish she could talk.
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Wendy Loving, you you're brand new but we love you too welcome evelyn evelyn manakow i don't know she it's her ninth birthday evelyn her ninth birthday i know i seriously hope it's not okay listen tell your parents yeah that two very bad people have been in your ears and you can't have them there anymore. Mommy and daddy are doing this all wrong, Evelyn.
I don't know what's going on. Or all right.
They're doing it just right. Yeah, who's to say? It's up to you.
Other producers this week. Happy birthday, Evelyn.
Other producers are Trude, possibly Trudy. Pestless, Peaceless, Peaceless.
I don't know. Peyton Meadows.
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That's fine. I'm sure you were very nice to us.
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Other producers continuing are Andrew Chandler, Devin, nope, that's Kevin W. D-Rock, Chrissy with no last name, Alexa Napierowski.
Yeah. Casey Bazoub, Juan Lopez.
DJ Tadic, I think.

David with no last name.

Amber J.

Angel Abbott.

Megan with no last name.

Justin Tarlow to Neville.

Milster.

Piss.

Oh, Mr. Pissman.

Got you.

I think that's taking a jab at me, James.

I think that's what that is.

Chris Sen, maybe.

James Gilstrap.

Mine, mine, mine.

James Lee.

Jillian.

Roxanne Keegan. Sarah with no last name.
Mickey Pinto. Jennifer Pacheco.
Catherine Hunter. Shirley Savory.
Shelby Christopher. CMP MoFo.
Cass. Gilbreath.
Kaylee. Kayla.
Barman. Yep.
Nicola Johnson. Nicola, maybe.
Gail, Mike Weed-Lira. Is that right?

Heidi Smith, Matt T., Emily Skinner, Patrick Murphy, Lady Dank Alex.

I don't know what that means, but I imagine it's a gal who smokes weed, James.

My kind of girl.

That a girl.

Ryan Maureen Tubbs, Terry Hutchison, Stephen McLean, Brian Hennis maybe,

Steph with no last name, Daniel Sulak, Edwards Campbell Ross Chelsea Wagner Jen S Taylor with no last name Anthena Anthena no it's Amanda Shelton Anthena Jesus Christ I want to name him Anthony but it's a girl we'll call her Antna Anthena Jesus Christ Kyle Kinghorn Quinn Campbell Nick the Trucker, A. Snide, 1912.
Holly Hargraves, Kristen Fredrickson, Mary Ryan, Cindy Patel, Alice Sarti, Natalie Randall, Gray with no last name, Lauren Huber, Aaron Santarella. Colleen with no last name, Alicia Gwazdaz.
What the fuck? G-W-O-Z-D-Z? That's not a name, is it? She just mashed the keyboard. Andrew Miller, Vicky Specht, Jude, or maybe Judy Sheridan, Joanne Cleary, Rachel Halgren, Richard Halgren.
Not Rachel. Sorry, Ray.
Sorry, Richie. Ellen Kelly Johnson.
Jennifer Greishop. Jennifer LaFrance also.
Chris Money. Maybe Money.
Angela Sumpter. Katie would know the last name.
Ashley Priestler. Aaron would know the last name.
Ryan Adams. Probably not that artist guy, but he's terrific.
Dana Persia. Good songs.
Danielle Bacchina bacchina i think that's right right i think that's right celine zahn uh hugh g penis oh you see how do you see how that doesn't sound right it's not nobody's named hugh g penis hugh g yeah you gotta you gotta it's come on janus is bart simpson had better shit than that come on guys come on you uh she. You got it.
Come on. Janus is the last name.
Bart Simpson had better shit than that. Come on, guys.
Come on, Hugh. Sheila Reiser.
Steal for Bart. It works.
Jen Blystone. Laura Kotsick.
Danielle Kopetch. Rachel Reese.
Julia Juliet Highland. Laura Larson.
Amanda Fabian Salters. Fabian.
All right. Tiffany with no last name.
Pete with no last name james west kristin gartman gartman uh krista m chris g jennifer allen alex with no last name hillary keys the 940 t uh tj beaner schnitzel that's pretty good not bad uh i hate that you made me do that melinda uh hillary hillary maybe uh and weza weza weza not gonna do this we wezerak wezerak why check why chairak all right clinton i've done the best i'm gonna do clinton bartek bartek david riviera uh yes rivera Brandon Bowling, Lisa Fairman, King Cakes, Michael McDonald, Emily Crofts, Kayla Reynolds, Justin Quisnell, Gretchen Still, Anthony Batten, Ryland Sink, Shasha Shankia, holy fuck, Eleanor Steinmuller, Kyle Dunham, fuck, it's coming off penny wilson bean cake wendy walters elizabeth with no last name lydia fenton uh melissa lindsey carrie kelly julianne rosa chappetti with no last name glenn schnell scott spate jordan williams gage with no last name becca bowen christine dufort uh joey joy joy dena portier uhier, Sierra Spencer, Jenny Smith, Lenny, oh, that's Jenny Howard, Luke Messimer, Emily Cecil, Terry Fralick, Robert Graves, Tammy Lindsay, Lila G, Zach O'Grady, Sean Ingram, Ken Gillen, James Ott, Hainawacker, Melinda Cole, Alice C, Fred with no last name,. Lisa Bell, Mitchell Franklin.
Sam would know the last name. Andrew Clement, G-Unit, Smitty.
We should have stopped at Roy Rogers. I don't know what that means.
That's a quote from something, right? We should have stopped at Roy Rogers. What is that from? What is that from? That's for the cheeseburgers, right? What is that from? Yes, we should have stopped at Roy Rogers.
God damn it. That's going to drive me crazy.
Son of a bitch. You bastard.
Fuck you. God damn it.
I we should have stopped at roy rogers god damn it that's gonna drive me crazy son of a bitch you bastard fuck you god damn we certainly should have stopped we should have stopped at roy rogers emily bethel nicky with no last name joel bernard richard what is it paulie in the woods in fucking sopranos i should have fucking stopped at roy rogers when they're eating ketchup yeah that's what yeah thank you. Boom.
When they're tracing the Russian and freezing death in the van.

Yeah.

He wanted to stop at Ray Rogers.

He goes, no, no.

We're going to get a steak at the casino.

It's going to be beautiful.

She just stopped at Ray Rogers.

Now it's starving.

Joelle Bernard Richard.

Richard, maybe?

Pamela Goodman.

Nikki would know last name.

Emily Bethel.

I think I said that.

Angie Cook.

Lisa Olsen.

Megan Gerard.

Gabe Grendy.

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