"Jeremy Allen White"

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Speaker 1 Hi, good morning. Good morning, everybody.
Good morning to you. Oh,

Speaker 1 wonderful day. Oh.
Or a good evening for maybe some of our listeners. It could be an evening lesson.
I'm just saying, depending on where you are, good that time of day.

Speaker 1 I think most people listen to this show during the day or during the night. You know what? That's a really great question.
And we'll get to it right after this all-new episode of Smartless God. Smart.

Speaker 1 Smart.

Speaker 1 Smart,

Speaker 1 less.

Speaker 1 I will say in the blind right now, my wife said to say to the guest that she loves them. So I don't know who this is, but just know

Speaker 1 that my house loves you

Speaker 1 already. Oh, that's nice.
Yeah, because Will talks to my wife more than I do. And something we should get into.
Hi, Willie. Let's go there now.
Let's go there now.

Speaker 1 Will, why do you talk to my wife so often? You talk to her as if

Speaker 1 I don't want to say some of these crasses. There's something going on, but it's

Speaker 1 correct.

Speaker 1 I'm married to her and I live with her and I talk to her X amount. You talk to her X plus amount.
So where does that put your relationship with her? Well, let me just say this.

Speaker 1 Is there something going on? Don't ask me point blank.

Speaker 1 Should I ask you kind of in a nuanced way? I'm just saying, don't ask me point blank. Because you don't like to lie to me.
I don't like lying. Okay.

Speaker 1 If you were to cheat on one of your friends'

Speaker 1 wives,

Speaker 1 would I be in the running? Or a husband?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have been in the running. Sorry.
You would. Sorry.
This is hypothetical.

Speaker 1 About Amanda? You are the running.

Speaker 1 Well, thank you.

Speaker 1 Mr. Mark.
It's a compliment to you that I love your wife. No, I do love your wife so much.
And she and I have a special... She and Sean have a special relationship as well.

Speaker 1 Are you talking to us from a gorgeous new place in New York? Not new. No, no, no.
I'm just in that same place. Wow.
The rental? Yes, sir. But did you not just get another new kind of?

Speaker 1 Maybe, yeah. Maybe you did.
Maybe I did. You might not ask.
I want to stay there. Can we stay there when we come visit? But not yet.
You have a place here. Oh, that's right.
That's right.

Speaker 1 It's uptown, though. I'm sorry.
Shall we take a break? Yeah, sure. We'll just give you a minute.

Speaker 1 Are you still on lunch?

Speaker 1 We're not back yet?

Speaker 1 Snickerdoodle. Fuck, man.
It's not. It's just 11.30.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 I have a late lunch. So by the way,

Speaker 1 I just had a chicken wrap and a snickerdoodle and a glass of milk. Wait, wait, but you just said you have a late lunch coming up.
Yeah, coming up. I'm

Speaker 1 why are you eating lunch food and tonight's dessert?

Speaker 1 Well, no, this is timing you over at 11:30. To what time's your lunch?

Speaker 1 2 o'clock. Oh, my God.
And you have to lunch.

Speaker 1 So you're going to eat dinner at 2.30?

Speaker 1 Kind of. It's like going to be a weird thing because then who wants to eat at 5 or 6 when I normally eat? Are you powerlifting these days?

Speaker 1 Are you into powerlifting? What's happening? You got a big contest coming up?

Speaker 1 I would love if you just stood up and your legs, your glutes, and everything were just popping. You know what? I think I recognize that Snickerdoodle from

Speaker 1 the Country Mart. No.

Speaker 1 I had one this weekend. Oh, yeah.
No,

Speaker 1 they're pretty big. I do like a Snickerdoodle.
They're really good. They're like, what's your current favorite cookie, Willie? It's always, always, it's current and always chocolate chip cookie.

Speaker 1 I'm always in search of the best chocolate chip cookie. It's my thing.

Speaker 1 You know what I like? I like a nice peanut butter cookie because they're usually soft and gooey in the middle. They're often too dry for me

Speaker 1 you remember we were we were on the set of is this thing on coming out or it's already out i think oh

Speaker 1 sure that's it and um and and

Speaker 1 the craft service lady made fresh chocolate chipcakes remember those well and well

Speaker 1 i know i couldn't believe it and you're like boy that smells really good sounds like someone on the set was honoring the fact that it was an on-camera job sean

Speaker 1 not me i ate like five of them you still eat like you're doing a podcast that's right

Speaker 1 Eat like you're doing a podcast.

Speaker 1 That's really good. Hey, kudos to us on the podcast.
We got amazing recognition today.

Speaker 1 We got a little golden globe now. And

Speaker 1 we did. And

Speaker 1 I want to say a lot of it has to do with our friends, Michael Terry and Bennett Barbicow, and Rob Armyar.

Speaker 1 Those guys. These are the winds beneath our wings.
Yeah, yeah. And that's why I'm happy.
I'm happy for those dudes because how hard they work and we love them so much. And thank you.

Speaker 1 We love you, guys. We love you.
We don't need to hear from you. We love you.

Speaker 1 Turned your mic on.

Speaker 1 You know what Bennett and Robin Michael would like? They would like probably for the three of us to show up to set award show in the event we're lucky enough to win.

Speaker 1 They'd probably like us to get up there and give a nice speech and not be stuck in New York at a play or stuck in

Speaker 1 Long Island or petting a dog or something like that.

Speaker 1 I would love to, but I'm not going to be. Yeah, I can.
I would love to. I'd love to.
But Robin Bennett and Michael should go in our stead. That's what I.
No, you're both coming.

Speaker 1 Wait till Amanda gets a hold of you both. I know, by the way, she already did.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Willie, maybe we fly back together just for the night. Yeah, there you go.
Well, we'll talk about it. All right.

Speaker 1 Oh, guys, the one thing I do want to mention before we go, I want to say that we want to let you know about a new Smartless Media show that is celebrating the world's dumbest criminals, right?

Speaker 1 You want to let the audience know. You don't want to let you, Sean and I are well aware.

Speaker 1 This is a great little child of Smartless Media, a little baby called Crimeless. Okay.
It's called Crimeless. It's hosted by journalist Josh Dean and comedian Rory Scoville.
Yeah. What do they do?

Speaker 1 What do they do? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Every week, Josh tells Rory a story or two or three, you know, about some ridiculous, stranger-than-fiction crime starring some of the most hilarious ding-dongs that you guys could possibly imagine.

Speaker 1 I want you to think of like, you know, like Cohen Brothers films, but it's real. It's not crimeless.
It's like dum-dums. It's like crime, dum-dums taking crime.

Speaker 1 It's talking like stage deaths and like pretend hitting in or fake drugs. Yeah, right.
Like in shrice scams, but done by idiots. Wow.
People that don't know how to pull it off. Well, no.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So we got new episodes of this. And when are they coming out? If people were like, I want to get there.
When does it come from?

Speaker 1 When would you want to hear it? You'd want to hear it on a hump day, right? You'd want it just to get you through the week. To get you through the week.

Speaker 1 Wednesday, perfect on a hump day. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 And wherever you get your podcast, crimeless. Okay.
So,

Speaker 1 hey, Will, are you feeling good about your guest? I'm feeling really good. In fact, I want to say, speaking of which, our guest is a Golden Globe nominee, freshly minted.

Speaker 3 I think he has a couple.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's right. Guys, we have somebody who is O Courant, as they say.

Speaker 1 He's a

Speaker 1 very,

Speaker 1 he is an award-winning, celebrated actor.

Speaker 1 I do. And my mom.

Speaker 1 You know him as a lot of people know as Carmy

Speaker 1 from his acclaimed acclaimed FX.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 he's earned him an Emmy, a Golden Globe SAG Award for Best Actor. He was just nominated for Golden Globe for Deliver Me from Nowhere.
You guys, it is Mr. Jeremy Dallen White.
All right.

Speaker 1 I will second my wife's love for you now that I see you. Everybody's love for you, my dear.
And not only that, not only that, Jeremy, before you start, welcome.

Speaker 1 He's also, he was also my surprise guest for our rained out Hollywood ball.

Speaker 1 I just found that out. I just found that out, too.

Speaker 1 This is not as good as loving up on you on the Hollywood Bowl stage, but we'll take it. We'll take it for sure.

Speaker 2 I'm so happy to see you guys. I was just texting Amanda

Speaker 2 as you guys spoke about her.

Speaker 1 Oh, everybody's sleeping with you guys.

Speaker 1 Everybody's sleeping with Amanda.

Speaker 1 Jason, let me say, and I mean Sean, if she turns you, that's going to be it.

Speaker 1 Jason, I mean this in the most friendly way, a friendly, friendly way, and I mean this in a non, but your wife really gets around

Speaker 1 to texting people. To texting people around

Speaker 1 to let you finish. Let me finish, God,

Speaker 1 is what I said to her. Yeah.
Now, listen.

Speaker 1 She's a lover. She's a real lover.

Speaker 1 We love her. Jeremy, welcome.
Ellen White, welcome.

Speaker 1 This is so nice. It's so nice to meet you.

Speaker 1 So happy to meet you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Congrats on the nomination. You guys have never met.
Yeah, congrats on the nomination. And Sean, you and Jeremy Ellen White have never met.
Never met, but I'm a big fan.

Speaker 2 I'm a a big fan.

Speaker 1 When you meet him,

Speaker 1 you'll be in love. I'm serious.

Speaker 2 I thought the eating thing, also, I listened to the show a lot. I'm a subscriber, all of it.
I thought the eating thing was

Speaker 1 all a bit. But it's all a bit.
No, a lot of the time. When you brought out that cookie, I couldn't believe it.
Show me milk, too. I bet you got milk right there.
Share milk cookie. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 But Jeremy, here's the one thing. First of all, Sean,

Speaker 1 enough with the Foley work. Do you need to keep it? Take it out of the fucking army.
Like, are you trimming it? At home. Oh, no.
I'm keeping it fresh. I'm keeping it fresh.
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 In a paper bag? There's a wax paper that's open on one end.

Speaker 1 How is that keeping it fresh? What, from

Speaker 1 six minutes that you're taking to eat it?

Speaker 1 Can you grab a hat? What's going on with your hair? I know. Sorry.
It's like you're going to catch on fire in a second. I'm going to buy you some product for Christmas.

Speaker 1 We're going to get Jen to send some Lola V over. She should have an emergency crew.
You know what?

Speaker 1 I'll call her on Smartlist Mobile to get me some low-living.

Speaker 1 Smart.

Speaker 1 Very smart. Anyway, Jeremy, where are you, Middle? Welcome.
Yeah, where do we find you?

Speaker 2 I'm in Los Angeles. I just got back the other day.
I was in Vancouver for a little while, and I'm in.

Speaker 1 Are you in an office in your house?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like

Speaker 2 I try to make it an office, but it's just becomes kind of storage.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about that AC unit that's sticking out of the wall? I mean, they work, right?

Speaker 2 No, I'm wearing the hat right now. It's like my house is falling apart.
Nothing really works here. I got that put in recently.
It doesn't work, so it's pretty chilly in here.

Speaker 2 But this is like a separate kind of room, not a guest house. There's nothing in here.

Speaker 1 The acoustics are good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the acoustics are great. Can you give us a song? I'm not sure if you're a spider laughing room.
No, no. Hey, is that a chef's apron behind your left shoulder? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I've got,

Speaker 2 yeah, the chef's apron. It's like a collection of little stolen things.

Speaker 1 Everybody needs a spot for them. And Jeremy,

Speaker 1 you can tell us those stories into the mic. That would be great.
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 I like gesturing.

Speaker 1 Can you guys hear me?

Speaker 1 Now we can. Okay, great.

Speaker 2 Good, good.

Speaker 1 So, Jeremy, I want to kind of get,

Speaker 1 I finally want to put the Amanda issue to bed again.

Speaker 1 But Amanda, when I knew that you were coming on

Speaker 1 to our live show,

Speaker 1 Amanda Inke was so excited because she had explained to me that you and Jason are kind of newish friends in the last

Speaker 1 year. We got set up.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We've seen each other a couple of times now. A couple times.
Cool it's pretty exciting. JB, cool it.

Speaker 2 Today, Jeremy, I feel the same. I feel the same way.

Speaker 1 That's really good.

Speaker 1 Tell me how this newfound, I love new male friendships and how they start.

Speaker 1 How did this start, Jeremy? I want to hear Jeremy's tale. Baby.
Well,

Speaker 2 it was Jamie, who I think is friends

Speaker 2 with everybody. Jamie was Rahi.

Speaker 2 Who set us up a great, great connector?

Speaker 2 Yeah, she set us up. We went to see some movies over at the house first.
So we had like a group hang first to make sure that everything felt

Speaker 1 felt right and it wasn't uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 But then we got to go, we went to a Dodgers game, which was really, really cool.

Speaker 1 That's what always happens. The two of us.
Always happens there. It's like an hour-long ride.
I get them. The first one's free.

Speaker 1 Yep. And then you sit next to me for a few hours.

Speaker 1 um i've got the radio in one ear so it's still not super pressured you know yeah that's true well and also you don't have to fully connect with the person so you don't have to be too vulnerable you've got something going on yeah exactly yeah did you did you get to sit on the side of of the ear that had the thing in it or not no no no no he's always how dare you sean he's on the no on the open ear you've had both i've had both happen to me you've had both yeah

Speaker 1 sean went to the uh playoff the longest baseball game in playoff history yeah

Speaker 1 oh yeah Will got this. That's really exciting.

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah, I was thinking about you a lot during, oh, last year.

Speaker 1 I went last year of the World Series, but Sean went this year. Yeah.
It was great.

Speaker 3 I loved it.

Speaker 1 Even though it was 18-inning. A little more enthusiasm next delivery.

Speaker 1 I really did love it. I love going.

Speaker 1 He got thrown in the deep end, though, there with that 18-inning game.

Speaker 1 I learned a lot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know a lot about baseball.

Speaker 1 So, Jeremy,

Speaker 1 you must have learned a lot from hanging out with an older dude. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I know that he's always looking to, to, we call him Dracula because he's always looking to suck the young blood.

Speaker 1 He said, he's always, he's like, I need, I need. I worked on my outfit for a couple of days.
I need to get me some youth. I need to get an injection of youth.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I went for a looser cut on my jean that day.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I'm good for that. Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 Did you get anything? I did. I picked up on a couple of things.
I don't really want to reveal it here, but maybe on our next date, you'll see

Speaker 1 some improvements. But did you find JB saying a lot of stuff like that? Sounds pretty dope, dude.

Speaker 1 And I think I caught a couple. That's so fire.

Speaker 2 That's so fire.

Speaker 1 A couple things were sus. And

Speaker 1 Jeremy definitely had a lot of Riz

Speaker 1 that day. Wait, Jeremy, so I don't know anything about you.
Where did you grow up?

Speaker 1 I grew up in Brooklyn, New York. Oh, see, now because of the show, I think Chicago.
Like, that's real.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, not that the show is real, but I thought that you had to show you. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 That makes sense. I also, I did a show before The Bear also set in Chicago.
So I've been on like a Chicago set show really my whole adult life, 1845.

Speaker 2 So I understand.

Speaker 1 And you don't shoot the show in Chicago. Sean's always wondering what Tom Selak felt about growing up in Hawaii.

Speaker 2 We shoot all of the bear in Chicago, yes.

Speaker 1 Tom, you serve? Oh, tell me.

Speaker 1 We got to get Tom off the show. We got to get Tom Suck and dispel that.

Speaker 1 But you've got the Detroit Tigers hat.

Speaker 1 Was one of your parents from Detroit? So, Jeremy, did you eat the food in Chicago? Were your parents from Detroit?

Speaker 1 Jeremy, Jeremy, all your time in Chicago, did anybody ever bring up Glenn Ellen?

Speaker 1 No. Not once.
Well, let me ask you this. Did you eat portillos?

Speaker 2 Yes, I love portillos.

Speaker 1 Isn't it great?

Speaker 2 Portillos is great.

Speaker 1 Will, if you could just back the gum off the mic.

Speaker 2 Yes. The chocolate shake is.

Speaker 1 The chocolate shake is delicious.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 From portillos. Sean was waxing on about it before we went to Chicago.
We're like, okay, okay. And then that chocolate shake arrived.
And I was like, this is the real thing. The cake shake.

Speaker 1 It's great.

Speaker 1 By the way, Jason mentioned the cake shake, Portillo's cake shake in Ozark, and he didn't remember that. Yeah.
No, I don't remember that either. That's fine.

Speaker 1 Well, he was in a blackout at the time.

Speaker 1 Do you want to address these rumors?

Speaker 1 Okay, so wait. Go ahead.
All right. So sean you were happy they put the cake in a shake have you ever asked them to do it in an iv like that would really just get it straight to the bloodstream

Speaker 1 so uh so jeremy we're in brooklyn we're in brooklyn we're uh we're just learning how to read and write we're watching your parents were in the theater you're when you were a kid is that true that's true that's true you read that correctly absolutely um and they say to you just as you're learning how to read and write hey here why don't you read this play or why don't you write that like what Did it start that early?

Speaker 1 How'd you get started?

Speaker 2 No, no,

Speaker 2 they weren't particularly

Speaker 2 pushy with all that.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 when I was a kid, I had a lot of energy, and I think they just wanted to get rid of the energy. So I played sports and that wasn't enough.

Speaker 2 And I did dance, which was kind of my first like getting on stage and performing sort of thing.

Speaker 2 Dance. And yeah, so I did ballet.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's great.

Speaker 2 Ballet tap and jazz for a long time in New York.

Speaker 1 That's great. Can you still do it?

Speaker 2 I can look like I can do it. I mean, tap was my favorite.

Speaker 2 And I can shuffle a little bit, but no, it's been a long time.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 when you're at a party and there's a dance floor, like to me, that's it looks like a quicksand pit. Like, watch out.
Don't get anywhere near it. Like, I've got an allergy to it.

Speaker 1 Are you thinking, like, okay, all right, there's my plan for a little bit later on? Like, are you excited to dance?

Speaker 2 There was a time, like in my mid-20s, I had in LA and New York, like a dance spot for almost every night of the week.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Not like ballroom dancing, but like there was like a dance yourself clean night. And there was a spot in Chinatown that was like an 80s night.

Speaker 1 There's a level of confidence to your dancing that it actually, it's something that you look forward to. And this is, it's a bit of a, it's a little bit of a flex.

Speaker 1 I don't want to put you on the spot, put words in your mouth, but it's not something you avoid. Let's put it that way.

Speaker 2 It's not something I avoid. I like to dance.
God, I wish you could. Yeah, I'll say it.

Speaker 1 Hollywood is going to go nuts for you because you're straight and you can dance. They're going to put you in so many different ways.
Yeah, wait till Hollywood gives a notice of you.

Speaker 1 You're going to do great. No, imagine.
Get out here.

Speaker 1 No, I met like, what's that Ryan Gosling movie?

Speaker 2 Oh, La La Land.

Speaker 1 Yeah, La La Land. Yeah.
Jeremy,

Speaker 1 let's say it's a Tuesday night and you know of a place in New York. You're like, all right, I'm going to go out.

Speaker 1 There's like a 70s dance thing and you've got your new buddy JB and it's late for him because it's nine o'clock and he's a little nervous about how he wants to go to the disco

Speaker 1 what would you

Speaker 1 could you teach him how to dance do you think

Speaker 2 yeah I mean there was a place Sway in New York they have the Smiths night and I think you could you could do that right I love that

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like Smith's cure.

Speaker 2 Like, you know,

Speaker 2 you can figure it out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait, how old? Jason, you shut your mouth. How can you say I go about things the wrong way?

Speaker 1 So I can just sort of just rock and sway as opposed to boogie. I'm not that much.
But you've got boogie moves, yeah?

Speaker 1 I mean, I feel like the more we talk about it, someone's really going to try to get me.

Speaker 1 Man, I was looking for something to do. I can dance, yes.

Speaker 2 I've got some rhythm. I can dance.
I can dance. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Man, I'm very jealous.

Speaker 2 And I'm sure you could do it, Jason. Yes.

Speaker 1 So you're singing and dancing as a kid, which you've continued into adulthood. And then what happened? You start doing theater?

Speaker 2 Yeah. So

Speaker 2 I joined kind of a new school and middle school in seventh grade. And I joined the dance program naturally because I've been doing that for a while.
But

Speaker 2 I didn't find the class took dance seriously enough. Oh, boy.
I didn't feel the teacher took it seriously enough. Wow.

Speaker 1 And so I switched to the drama program. Did you have leg warmers on at the time you were in this level of disdain?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was stretching. I had the warmers on.
I did the whole thing and I just didn't think they were taking it.

Speaker 1 There was a big boat next to it.

Speaker 2 My belly was showing.

Speaker 2 But I just didn't think they took it seriously. Truly, though, I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but at the time, I was like, this doesn't feel, you know, it's like they're not taking it seriously enough.

Speaker 2 And I found a drama teacher at this school, John McNinney, who took things so seriously. And some of my best friends were in this school already in this class.
And

Speaker 2 yeah, my first time acting was like in a little black box at this school in Brooklyn, this middle school in Park Slope.

Speaker 2 And I remember, yeah, getting on

Speaker 2 that stage for the first time and

Speaker 2 really feeling like a sense of, I don't know,

Speaker 2 like focus or presence or something that I hadn't been able to find, like a real like ease.

Speaker 1 Did you feel anything from the audience? Was it a comedy? Did you get a laugh? Or a drama? Did you feel that you'd move them?

Speaker 2 It was, no, funnily enough, it was like an exercise where we had to have two actors where

Speaker 2 a monologue was being performed, but there were two actors on stage. And I was the actor not speaking.

Speaker 1 Dream job.

Speaker 2 And yeah.

Speaker 2 But it was amazing to feel like

Speaker 2 if you could feel focused on the person across from you and really be listening, like I, I felt a tension on me. even in silence, just kind of like focusing on somebody else.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I felt like, I don't know, my mind wasn't racing. I wasn't like there is something, and still that's why I like acting so much.

Speaker 2 Like I find I'm so ahead of myself a lot of the time or anxious or, you know, and then when I'm on set or performing,

Speaker 2 there's like a real like simplicity or focus or something happens that's really

Speaker 1 interesting way to put it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do you have like a little bit of ADD or something like that? For sure. Yeah, same.
And then when I'm doing this, I'm working on this play right now and it's a monologue. It's 40 pages.

Speaker 1 And I find that when I have the one thing, like you're saying, to focus on, it actually calms my mind. Everything else gets kind of quiet.
There's something really nice.

Speaker 1 You would describe yourself, Sean, as having a little bit of ADD?

Speaker 2 Did you say 40 pages?

Speaker 1 It's a one-man show. It's another way to put a one-man show.
He's learning.

Speaker 1 I can't believe they're bringing puppetry of the penis back there.

Speaker 1 That's so exciting.

Speaker 2 Where is the show?

Speaker 1 At Studio Seaview, which is John Krasinski just did his show there last summer,

Speaker 1 which is great. Yeah, and when does it go up?

Speaker 1 Uh, January 31st, it opens. I can't make that.

Speaker 1 That's fine. I know.
Oh, no, well, I think that's preview star, January 31st. Anyway, but I know what you mean about it being you being able to focus.

Speaker 1 Uh, it gives you something to focus on that you can put all your energy towards, as opposed to

Speaker 2 feeling very like scattered. That's how my brain works.
I feel very scattered, and same,

Speaker 1 and we will be right back.

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Speaker 1 So you find this thing and you're like, I'm locked in. I feel locked.
This is something that I respond to and I like. Yes.
And then you, and then you go,

Speaker 1 you start auditioning for professional roles, whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 2 This, this teacher

Speaker 2 who was so serious, I mean, he had us doing,

Speaker 2 we did Macbeth and 12th Night as 12-year-olds, back-to-back.

Speaker 1 He was just so serious.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. He was like the kids.
How does a 12-year-old learn Shakespeare?

Speaker 2 He would wake up. He lived near the school and he would come to school with like nosebleeds when we were doing dress rehearsals.
Like he was so like in it and focused. And, you know, he really

Speaker 1 cared.

Speaker 2 He cared very much about it.

Speaker 2 And he would send me out on like, he would go to backstage, which is like, you know, where you could do open casting calls.

Speaker 2 And I got my first couple jobs going on. Two backstage.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's great. great.
No way. That's so rad.
What was the first one? Do you remember?

Speaker 2 I did this off, off, off Broadway play called The Present.

Speaker 2 And that was kind of my first

Speaker 2 job. I think we got paid.
I hope we got paid.

Speaker 2 But yeah, that was my first job. It was like on the Upper West Side.

Speaker 2 And you were in middle school.

Speaker 2 I was in middle school. Wow.
And then I think I got a commercial maybe. And then...

Speaker 2 My first movie,

Speaker 2 they came to do an open casting call at the school.

Speaker 2 And a great casting director, Cindy Tolan, was casting that film. And she told me, you know, we don't know if this movie is ever going to come together.
It'll take a long time.

Speaker 2 It was a very small budget film. But she said, you know, you're good at this and you should really audition more.
And so she wrote me a really great letter to take around to agents and stuff.

Speaker 2 So I ended up getting an agent.

Speaker 1 Great. That's great.
Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Thank you, Cindy Tolan.

Speaker 1 Now, was singing ever a part of this? I forgot. No.

Speaker 1 It was not.

Speaker 2 No, no, just dance. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So then musical theater was never really a draw or a temptation, but how about now? Now that you've taught yourself how to sing. I mean, your performance is so mind-blowing in the Springsteen thing.

Speaker 1 I don't want to embarrass you. We don't have to talk about it because I'm tired of talking about it, but it's just.

Speaker 1 effing incredible.

Speaker 1 And the fact that you learn how to sing in someone else's voice on top of that and learn how to play guitar, I think, too. so

Speaker 1 you had to learn how to play guitar for this role to take on yeah at least look like i could handle it yeah yeah wow wow incredible huge nards taking that on and doing such a great yeah jason was telling was going on and on about how i'm so sorry i haven't seen it yet but it's on my list i swear but jason was just raving about your performance and as is everybody else he's incredible i can't wait to see it so now that you've got the singing and the dancing and i don't know if you need the guitar part for a musical theater but like do you think about doing like a musical on Broadway or something?

Speaker 1 Like a la la

Speaker 1 or film?

Speaker 2 No, I mean, it's never been, I mean, I have no, no issue and I've like enjoyed musical theater, but it's, it's like seeing it, but it's never been

Speaker 2 like in high school, I went to a performing arts school and I would do theater, but it was usually kind of straight plays and stuff. And

Speaker 2 yeah, I don't know. I've never had that.
that draw to be in it. I've been a fan of it.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't run if somebody brought you something. Let's say

Speaker 1 like the new Hamilton kind of thing. Yeah,

Speaker 1 or like as Sean would mention for 50 times, La La Land. La La La La La Land.
Jesus Christ. Why don't you marry me? Yeah, La La Land 2, I would definitely be interested in doing.

Speaker 1 How about the Christmas sequel, Fal La La Land? Fala La La Land.

Speaker 1 JB, that's really good. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 1 Wait, so are you, do you play an instrument now? Like, do you play anything piano or anything else?

Speaker 2 No, I mean, I never really learned how to play anything. And I remember, you know, I had about six months to learn guitar, which, you know, isn't enough time really to learn how to play the guitar.

Speaker 2 But I got together with a really great teacher. And

Speaker 2 we just learned the couple songs that I needed to learn. But it makes it very hard for me to learn.
or to play other things now because I didn't learn in a traditional way.

Speaker 2 So even if I try to learn something else, I kind of end up playing Mansion on a Hill or something.

Speaker 1 Like it doesn't, it doesn't translate. You still have calluses on the tips of your fingers? Or are those going away?

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're still a little rough. Really?

Speaker 1 Because it hurts.

Speaker 2 And I still pick up, I mean, you know, Bruce Springsteen has, he was so involved in kind of the process of making the movie and really lovely and supportive all the way through.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you seem to really love it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's seen it a lot.

Speaker 2 But he bought me a 1955 Gibson J200, which is the same model

Speaker 2 and almost year. He recorded it on 1954.

Speaker 2 But after our first meeting, he sent me this guitar, which is a very beautiful guitar. And so I do pick it up every once in a while just because I feel guilty letting it sit and collect.

Speaker 1 That's so cool. Is it there in the office in your

Speaker 1 house? You know what?

Speaker 2 As I said, my house is falling apart. When that rain was happening, I was nervous that there would be some moisture in here.

Speaker 1 So it's actually under my bed at this point where it's really safe.

Speaker 2 That's smart.

Speaker 1 You know, I bought a Christmas tree here yesterday in New York and I dragged it back to my place here. We decorated it yesterday.
Oh, did somebody film it?

Speaker 1 And I thought, you know, yeah, obviously I film everything. And

Speaker 1 I thought about it.

Speaker 1 If I ever wanted to,

Speaker 1 I'd have a Christmas tree stand down on Spring Street, you know, just this season, and I'd call it

Speaker 1 Spruce of Spring Street. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 Bravo.

Speaker 1 That was worth it. It was worth it.

Speaker 1 Wait,

Speaker 3 we'll tighten it up.

Speaker 1 So, Jeremy, so what was the first thing then after all that theater experience that got you out to the West Coast?

Speaker 2 I got a job.

Speaker 2 I was very lucky right out of high school. I got a job on a TV show called Shameless.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes, of course. Of course you were on that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, fantastic.

Speaker 1 You were on for like a decade. Am I right about that? Born.

Speaker 2 I was, man, I was 18 when we did the pilot, and I was 30 when we finished.

Speaker 1 Wow. Wow.
Wow. It takes you through it.
12 years old. And that was the first gig, like the first, or the first big gig?

Speaker 2 I I did, yeah. I did some film and like every law and order and stuff like that when I was in New York.

Speaker 2 But yeah, Shameless brought me to Los Angeles and kept me in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's so cool. That's cool.
Yeah. That's incredible.

Speaker 1 18 to 30.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it just doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 Right. So you're inside that cocoon,

Speaker 1 that comfortable cocoon of a series through your whole launch. Right.
And you got great notices through that and you're meeting everybody and you're getting other opportunities

Speaker 2 during the hiatuses in between each season a little bit yeah I try to do something you know yeah I try to do something each hiatus we shot about five months and yeah if I was lucky I'd I'd get a movie or or I did another like an Amazon sort of series one time but but yeah I mean I didn't have to I mean I was so happy and felt so lucky to have that kind of like I don't know that consistency and kind of continuity in my life especially in my 20s especially as an actor to kind of just have

Speaker 2 some place.

Speaker 1 You knew where you were going to be

Speaker 2 for four months every year, five months every year.

Speaker 1 Did you have time to

Speaker 1 also have a life? I mean, that takes you all the way through your 20s. Like, that's a time when you really want to have fun.
Did you find time to do all that stuff too?

Speaker 2 Yeah, definitely found time for all that stuff.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, I bounced around. Like, we shot the show here and I got a place back home in New York when I was like 22.
And so I kind of like split my time between L.A. and New York.

Speaker 2 And, and, um, and then, yeah, I mean, by the time we finished the show, I had, you know, I had my two daughters. A lot of life happened.
Oh, you have two daughters. Ezzi and Dolly.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Two daughters. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How old are they?

Speaker 2 Dolly turns five on Friday and Ezzy turns seven in October.

Speaker 1 I mean, you still look like you're 40, which is crazy. I know.
Yeah. Well, how old were we?

Speaker 2 I mean, I was 27. Yeah, when Ezzy was born.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.
And in that time, did you ever cross over? I think he wrote on your show, Mike O'Malley. Didn't he, right? Oh, my gosh, of course.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's a good friend of his best friend.

Speaker 1 He's the best.

Speaker 1 Mike was a writer on show.

Speaker 2 He was on Glee at the same time, too, which was like such a huge show. And I was like, oh, wow,

Speaker 2 you're such a big actor and you're writing on our show.

Speaker 1 Mike's had a really cool career.

Speaker 1 Really cool career. Right?

Speaker 1 Mike's had a really cool career so far. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Has he done acting, stand-up, writing, producing?

Speaker 1 He's done it all. He's such a talented guy, such a talented writer.

Speaker 1 And we all, I mean, it just, he's such a great, old, old friend of mine and ours. He's that old, Will.
No.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 He's just, he's just the best. We love you, Mike.
Anyway,

Speaker 1 he is a sweetheart.

Speaker 1 So, so that takes you through to your, all of a sudden, so now you're 30. And it's weird coming off a show when you've been on it for a long time, right? That's a weird.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Did you think, like, okay, it's all going to be downhill from here?

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 2 I felt totally lost. I mean, you know, I...

Speaker 1 Leave the cocoon.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I remember. I mean, I really did.

Speaker 2 We did ADR

Speaker 2 for the last, for whatever, the last episode of the 11th season of Shameless. I was at Warner Brothers.

Speaker 1 That's true, Tracy. That's where you re-record some dialogue

Speaker 1 if it wasn't recorded well on the day. It's sort of a finishing there.
There you go. There you go.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it means kind of the end. It's your last connection off to the thing.

Speaker 2 I finished that and I was driving home from Warner Brothers and had a full like panic. I had to pull over.
My arms went. I was so

Speaker 2 yeah, I mean, it had just been such a comfort. And, you know, I was with those actors for 11 years.
And I mean, they're like my family, brothers and sisters. Like I got so close with everybody.

Speaker 2 And I felt like I was saying goodbye to not only kind of like my work environment and that sort of like comfort and security but also saying goodbye to these these people who have been so solid for for me for so long and yeah and yeah i just didn't know what was next um and i had a very hard time how did you what was what was the thing that was most helpful that that that got you to because i know that panic well

Speaker 1 yeah um what do you did you did you lean on a friend did you go into therapy i mean i'm just citing all the things that i did friends yeah therapy uh i partied i like, you know, just everything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 2 I certainly, yeah, was in therapy

Speaker 2 and was talking about her a lot. And then, but I was also very lucky.
Like, so, I mean, you know, there's so much luck involved in all of this thing.

Speaker 2 But, you know, I spoke to Chris Storr, who created The Bear.

Speaker 2 He produced this

Speaker 2 movie I did, The Rental, like after season nine of Shameless. And

Speaker 2 Chris, I didn't see him on set a lot. He was kind of back and forth, but he comes up to me on kind of the last day.
And Chris goes,

Speaker 2 hey, what do you think you're going to be doing in three years?

Speaker 1 And I went, you know, I don't really know.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, I think I got a couple more years of shameless. And he goes, all right, buddy, I'm going to call you in three years.
And he walked away. And I was like, what a fucking jerk.

Speaker 2 Like, what a Hollywood jerk. Like, there's no way I'm ever going to hear from that guy ever again.

Speaker 2 And he called me

Speaker 2 just as we were wrapping up season 11 and said, I have to show the bear.

Speaker 2 You know, I'd really like you to do it.

Speaker 2 But I was hesitant at first because it was, you know, I love Chicago, but based in Chicago again, and there was some kind of like family dynamics that seemed like similar upon first read to me.

Speaker 2 And so I just wasn't sure I'd do it yet, but I just kept reading the script for the bear and the pilot. And it was so great.
And I got to the point where I was just like,

Speaker 2 you know, it's not my business to pass.

Speaker 2 I have no right to pass on something this

Speaker 1 this good.

Speaker 2 So even though I was anxious about the future and all this stuff, I was shooting the pilot for the bear probably two months after that panic attack.

Speaker 2 I knew I was going somewhere. So I was able to kind of throw myself into something else.

Speaker 1 Yet it was still just a pilot, right? So you had to sweat

Speaker 1 the delivery of that,

Speaker 1 the networking of reading it, or sorry, watching it and giving it a pickup, right?

Speaker 2 FX, I believe, still is one of the...

Speaker 2 I don't think it's like this kind of inside baseball, but it's like, you know, I think a lot of shows will go straight to series these days with streaming, but FX continues to sort of, they shoot a pilot.

Speaker 2 Everybody watches it. They see what it looks like.
They take a look at, you know.

Speaker 1 um what you want to do before they make pretty good shows over there so they're treasure they do no no wonderful yeah i have a question about staying in chicago so those 11 seasons you did of shameless shameless and then the bear do you find a new place to stay every time you go or do you have a hub that you stay at?

Speaker 1 What a great thing. Great question, Sean.
That's great.

Speaker 1 Thank you. What part of Chicago?

Speaker 1 You broke her.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 we shot most of Shameless in L.A.,

Speaker 1 but we'd go for like a week at a time. Oh, I got it.
Okay, I got it.

Speaker 2 So we'd stay in a hotel.

Speaker 3 I thought you shot the whole thing still.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 But we do. First week in Choba's.
We do.

Speaker 1 We got it. We do.

Speaker 2 We do shoot all of the bear in Chicago and we stay all in the same place. And it's great because all of us are like on the same floor and we all cook together and eat together.
Oh, that's great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Okay, wow. But yeah.
So Apollo 13, the movie, they didn't film that in space then. No.

Speaker 1 A portion of it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you get the bear. So now you start doing the bear.
So you come out of this trend. By the way, Sean, I was going to ask you, you also had that thing with like Will and Grace.

Speaker 1 How long was that on the air? That was

Speaker 1 a total 11 seasons, but broken up to eight and three. So did you feel when that was over?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, you know, I try to be self-aware.
I'm sure these guys did too during rest development.

Speaker 1 That you know, when something's working and you have a gig and you have job security and somewhere to go every day and hopefully every year with each season, that you start trying to think ahead, like, okay, I'm self-aware enough to know that this is working now.

Speaker 1 I have to use this to get another. I have to make sure I can parlay this into another gig.
And as hard as you try, you just can't, like Jason always says, you can't control it.

Speaker 1 You can't control, you know, where your career goes. You can try, but it's like, you know, just kind of do your part.
You do have to let go. Yeah.
We never, well, certainly unarrested. We never had.

Speaker 1 How long was Arrested? The first incarnation was three years.

Speaker 1 Oh, right, but then you guys came back. We never had job security.
Even when after we won the Emmy, we were like, we were on the verge of being canceled the next week. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's such a great show.

Speaker 2 That's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Every time we'd go past the guard shack at the studio, we'd wonder if there'd still be a drive-on for us. But you guys knew how good it was.

Speaker 2 You guys could all feel how good it was, right? I mean, it's like a weird thing.

Speaker 1 We did, but it was like, but we were all

Speaker 1 a bunch of weirdos on that show. We're like, well, is this going to translate? Are other people going to think this is funny? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I never knew.

Speaker 1 I never had that job security. I never had a long-term job in that way.

Speaker 1 I have a lot of people.

Speaker 1 and yet you work more than literally anybody. I know.
I don't know if that's true, but it's weird. You're doing okay, Will.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. So, so you get that.
So now you come off that, and then all of a sudden you find yourself, you're shooting the pilot, and then the show gets picked up.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 could you have predicted that the bear would make, would resonate with fans and critics and everybody as much as it did when you were doing it? Yeah, even more so than shameless. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I mean, you know, I think all of you guys know that the feeling of kind of making something and knowing that it feels exciting and fresh and that you love all the other actors and everybody's doing such great work.

Speaker 2 But then you know that almost doesn't matter. You know, you put something out and will it connect or will anybody watch? It's just a whole other thing.
So I think we all knew.

Speaker 2 how exciting it was to make and we all hoped we could do more.

Speaker 2 But I think my greatest hope for the show when we were shooting the first season was like, maybe we can find kind of like a niche sort of like market where like people in service really dig this show or like, you know, like

Speaker 2 it's like respected by, I think that was the goal is like,

Speaker 2 will kitchens like this show? Will back of house like this show? Does this seem real?

Speaker 2 So the fact that it connected with as many people as it did and was watched as much as it has been was definitely a surprise.

Speaker 1 And you're on year what? You're on year four of the bears?

Speaker 2 We will start shooting five next year.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
Wow.

Speaker 1 How many episodes a season?

Speaker 2 It changes.

Speaker 2 Sometimes it's eight, sometimes it's 10, but it's always right around there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 And now you're a great big movie star on top of it all too. How are you going to stuff it all in, bud?

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 I feel like I want to

Speaker 2 take a nap. I don't know.
I'm very, very like, I'm excited to go do the, the, you know, the next season of the show.

Speaker 2 And then I'm, I'm like, I mean, it's been so lovely what the show has given me, but I'm definitely, um, I definitely want to like hang out at home and take the kids to school and stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it does seem like

Speaker 1 there are, there are people that are uniquely suited to like constantly be in a public

Speaker 1 position and and and and sort of do that. Away from home and all that stuff.
And then there are others that, yeah, that really like to be at home, that are sort of private, that are sort of shy,

Speaker 1 that it's sort of antithetical to the whole public job, right? And you do seem to be someone that enjoys, like, like me,

Speaker 1 like, I think all three of us, we kind of enjoy being

Speaker 1 kind of nesters.

Speaker 2 Yeah, trying to find a bit of a routine or a little bit of like, I don't know, rhythm. You know, I get very thrown.

Speaker 1 And when you go out, you feel like you got to like kind of throw the switch a little bit and kind of like, hey, now we got to kind of do this a bit. But it kind of becomes a part of you.

Speaker 1 Has it become a comfortable part of you?

Speaker 2 Which part? Like just like flying around and...

Speaker 1 Yeah, and doing the thing and

Speaker 1 promoting. Showing about the room and everybody's like looking at you and going like

Speaker 1 there is Jeremy, you know.

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't think that'll ever feel for me like a comfortable thing, but I think you can get better at sort of like hiding your anxiety, perhaps.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 You know what's funny, Jeremy?

Speaker 1 Like this weekend, actually at one point i was on somewhere on social media and a photo came up and it's you have and in our friend uh jamie who we just mentioned yeah uh and and it and it was like a scene with unidentified and and i was like there we go you're there with jamie who you work with yes and then and then people sort of glob you know sort of lobbying comments and saying like who's this person who's the person yeah who's the person and then and you're just like hey man the guy's out where he's working or he's doing this and he's in the city.

Speaker 1 Like, it's just, and this, that part is bizarre, right? It's just, it never gets really. Are you able to see that as kind of fun and funny?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, you know, I love Jamie and I've known her for so long. So like that sort of thing is funny.
And, and, and that's what I get for, you know, whatever, staying at the Bowery.

Speaker 1 But, um, but uh, I just, uh,

Speaker 2 but no, that stuff is, yeah, it's like, uh, it's strange. You certainly don't get used to it.

Speaker 2 Like, I, I have this farmer's market I love to go to and I've gone to for, you know, six, seven years that's very close to my house. And I go every Sunday.

Speaker 2 And I feel like that thing that was mine or me and my daughter's or like whatever, that very like private kind of like nice routine has kind of been, yeah, like spoiled by that sort of

Speaker 2 attention. So yeah, when those things happen, I mean, I understand it comes with, you know,

Speaker 2 I'm very lucky to be working for a career that I've wanted to be in for so long and have these opportunities. And this is something that comes with it.

Speaker 2 But yeah, none of it is normal you know um none of it feels normal do you talk to your do you talk to your kids about it like do you explain try to explain it to them are they old enough yet yeah i mean i just try to explain it is like people get excited you know they know i'm on television and they'll see like posters and and things and you know i explain that people get excited about kind of thinking they understand a version of your dad, but it's not really your dad.

Speaker 2 And I'm, you know, you know me and these people don't really know me but that's they get excited because they see this version of me right yeah but ezzie my oldest spots people you know quicker than than i do she's got like a real like hawkeye for

Speaker 1 um for people

Speaker 1 when someone pretends to be going through their emailing up their phone or doing a double take she'll be like we got to keep moving um so and she's seven so it's nice that she's sharp yeah i i'm glad that she's you know i was i was with somebody once and and somebody was taking like a sneaky pic of them and then came up and said, can I get a pick?

Speaker 1 And they said, you already got it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 You know, respect.

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Speaker 1 jb what have you have you ever what do you say to your girls i mean your girls are older now but did you say it back in the day have that combo with them i made a mistake early on of um we know but i want to know about this

Speaker 1 um i remember once we were driving past a poster and

Speaker 1 one of my daughters said, oh, we were driving to school. And she's like, oh, I can't wait to tell my friends that, you know, you're on a poster.

Speaker 1 And my instinct was like, I said, no, no, no, you can't. You can't do it.
Don't ever say.

Speaker 1 And I kind of, because I didn't want her to be, you know, bragging or like being like,

Speaker 1 I overcompensated and created.

Speaker 2 Right, it landed in a way that was like panicked about.

Speaker 1 Right. That you should hide the fact of what your dad does.
Like they almost thought that what I did was a bad thing. Right.

Speaker 1 And so I kind of of had to undo that. But, you know, what do I, I'd never had kids before his first friend.

Speaker 2 I mean, how old were it? When was yeah, how did you guys handle that kind of stuff, you and Amanda?

Speaker 1 It's, you know, you just, you try to keep an eye on what, like, when's the first possible moment they can understand the smart version of this conversation? Right.

Speaker 1 You know, and try to have it then as opposed to the dumb version of the conversations, which is what I had.

Speaker 1 And it's just sort of just like, you know, a big, dull, you know, dumb in blunt instrument, you know, saying, no, this is bad. Don't talk about it.
This is, you know, over here is good.

Speaker 1 And it just was kind of stupid. So I just kind of kicked the can down the road for a bit.
Yeah. I guess

Speaker 1 Jeremy, what's your dream role?

Speaker 1 Great, great, cool. I want to hear this.
Yeah, I know. This is great.
One more thing on Chicago. So what was the commute like from the place you guys were staying?

Speaker 2 Well, Sean, I will. I mean, do you go back a lot?

Speaker 1 Like, do you have a restaurant I should be going to that I don't know about? Like, what's going on? Yeah,

Speaker 1 Jeremy. Okay, go ahead.
I love the RL restaurant, the Ralph Lorraine Polo.

Speaker 2 Of course. Yeah, I mean, that's come on, really?

Speaker 1 We can all walk. It's the best.
Yeah, it's the best. For lunch, we're there.

Speaker 2 Chris Dorr, the creator of the Bears, there, every

Speaker 1 and it's attached to the Ralph Lorraine store. So you just go shopping.
I believe it's Ralph Lauren Lauren. You know what?

Speaker 1 The one in Paris is very good, too. It's excellent.
Yeah, for real. Yeah, really, really good.
Yeah. But no, but Jared, like, is there, because you have so much going on, you have to balance,

Speaker 1 you know, like you said, it'd be nice to take my kids to school or whatever.

Speaker 1 Is there something that's coming up or something that you've always wanted to do where you're just like, I really need to do that? I really want to do that.

Speaker 3 I have to get it.

Speaker 1 I can't do it because of kids.

Speaker 1 Or I can't, or I have to, or I have to figure it out.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I mean, I don't think of, you know, I kind of take things as

Speaker 2 they come.

Speaker 1 Like, you were like, I have to play Bruce Bringstein.

Speaker 1 It was more like a collaborative. Hey, what do do you think about that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, that came, yeah,

Speaker 2 Bruce came to me and the script came to me through Scott Cooper, who's a director I've like admired for a really long time.

Speaker 2 And I think that's how I always move is sort of who are the directors, who are the writers, who are the producers, like who are the actors I want to work with. So like the

Speaker 2 genre or the world,

Speaker 2 while those can be like very exciting things are almost secondary to, you know,

Speaker 2 I really want to work with Paolo Sorrentino or I really, like every actor wants to just do like a line in a Paul Thomas Anderson movie. You know, that's always kind of what I'm looking for.

Speaker 2 There's no sort of like archetype or world that I'm necessarily like, I need to, I need to do this.

Speaker 1 Got it, got it, got it. Sean, what about you? Something fun.
What would you like to do right now? I'm serious. Somebody said, you can pick a genre right now.
What would you do? I want to play.

Speaker 1 I told you, I want to play a complete fucking maniacal serial killer or someone who's just, you would never, ever expect me to play. Like, I want to play the super nice,

Speaker 1 the super nice guy who is, you know, affable and kind of just like funny, or whatever. And then he fucking rips people's necks apart when nobody's around.
I mean, that's his mode.

Speaker 1 That's his mode is he rips people's necks apart. That's right.
I wrote it down. You want me to send it to you? Okay.

Speaker 1 What kind of weapon would your guy use, Sean? Just my hands. Wow.
I bet a cake knife. How about think about it for a second?

Speaker 1 Jesus, let me get the question. Just trying to cover up the motivation.
Let him finish the.

Speaker 1 Excuse my hands. But no, you know, it's kind of like

Speaker 1 ripping throws out with your hands.

Speaker 1 You know, like Anthony Hopkins and Silence of the Lambs. When you saw that movie, you're like, you're like, who is this guy? Like, he can't, like, no, he wasn't.

Speaker 1 I mean, he worked all the time before that, but that was what made him famous. You're like, wow, that's such a cool, crazy.
Sean, do we need to go look into your garage?

Speaker 1 Is this something that we need to do? Check your search for the Sean. Everything's fine.
Everything's fine.

Speaker 1 Willie, Willie, what about you? Yeah. What's that?

Speaker 1 What about like a drink? You could rub the genie bottle.

Speaker 1 Next role, next part.

Speaker 1 Or it could be a genre. It's the newborn.
The newborn. You'd like to be born.
You'd like to do some action work.

Speaker 1 Yeah. In the first scene, Maddie and I battle it out.

Speaker 1 And then with the silencer,

Speaker 1 I take him out. And you take his wallet and his identification.

Speaker 1 I take his identification. And right before he does,

Speaker 1 Damon looks at me and goes, you're the best. And then I take over.
Wow.

Speaker 1 But you haven't thought about it. Well, I want him to compliment me before.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 His last word.

Speaker 1 But in all honesty, if somebody came to you with like a big-ass action film right now, would you not think about the fact that the stunt work could be very challenging?

Speaker 2 I feel like that stuff's exciting to me.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's, yeah, that all. You're younger than we are.
He's a young guy. Yeah.
I'm not scared of that, Jason. No, what about you, Will?

Speaker 1 Do you think you'd say, would you say yes to some stunt work? You'd blow out your fucking hammy coming out of your fucking dressing room.

Speaker 1 Coming out of your dressing room. Yeah.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm out. I'm out.
I'm out.

Speaker 1 Says you. JB would show up for his first stunt, and they'd be like, you can't do this in slippers.

Speaker 1 I think that, yeah, I would actually think more about the time that it would take to be away to do something like that. And for sure, it would freak me out more than anything.
To be honest.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. That's looking like six months.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 i know it is it is such a big factor in deciding isn't it like where am i going to be and for how long and what yeah

Speaker 1 and and we all have you know we have kids and and you have lives and stuff and especially at our age i mean jeremy you're you're lucky that you're sort of young you have all these kind of

Speaker 1 but for me i'm like oh god i'm so tired yeah

Speaker 1 you have you have a young one you have i do yeah i do have a i have a i have a five-year-old five i have a five-year-old and a 15-year-old and a 17 year old so these are like you are tired yeah i am tired and these are, although my five-year-old slept through the night last night, which he hasn't been doing for a while, but he did last night, which was a big, even though I look crazy exhausted.

Speaker 1 Does he sleep in bed with you? No, no. Because that's a super slow.
But it is a slippery, you know, sometimes I'll go down and sort of get in and

Speaker 1 sort of calm him down and stuff like that if he wakes up in the night. But yeah, he's he's not a great sleeper.

Speaker 1 But anyway, we're getting, you know, hey, listen, it's cool. I'm 55.
Hey,

Speaker 1 Sher, when you, can you, can you call me? Oh, is it Bear now? Yeah. Jerry,

Speaker 1 Jerry Bear.

Speaker 1 Sure, why not? I don't have, I don't have the time.

Speaker 1 Do people call you Jared?

Speaker 1 Are you called Jared by your friends? Jare, yeah. Jare.
Jare Bears, yeah. Yeah.
Jer Bear. How about Jaw Dog? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Jawdog is, yeah, a lot.

Speaker 1 Jaw true.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Jaw was in like middle school, high school.

Speaker 2 On the bear, on the bear set, Jaw Dog is

Speaker 2 around. I'm being genuine.

Speaker 1 Yes. I love it.
Yeah, Jaw Dog. Yes, of course.
Jerry, I love it.

Speaker 2 Well, my initials, yeah, or J-A-W. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jawdog.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 1 We can do the math. Okay.
So listen,

Speaker 1 but when, because

Speaker 1 I know what you mean. Sean, your hair is distracting.
It will say.

Speaker 1 I got to get a cut. I'm getting a cut.
Yeah, what time's the gig later on?

Speaker 1 Do you just cover all flock of seagulls and nothing else? Right? No, I have a figure skating gig next a little bit.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 Jer, do you have

Speaker 1 when you, because I'm talking about the anxiety thing and stuff like that, do you, can you, when you're not working and you have family, can you shut it off and not think about agents and lawyers and deals and scripts and all that stuff?

Speaker 1 Can you completely separate or is it always kind of there?

Speaker 1 I think, yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, that's, you know,

Speaker 2 when I'm around,

Speaker 2 yeah, my kids, you're forced to just, you have to be completely present. It's like,

Speaker 2 um so so i guess that's yeah the the second time i found kind of real peace or focus is yeah and having and having kids everything just kind of like narrows and you're like oh this is it this is you know this is where my attention is this is where i want to be this is you know right um and uh

Speaker 2 And so, yeah,

Speaker 2 I'm able to do that when

Speaker 2 I'm home. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 And when it's not kids, when it's not, what else are you like when it's just you what do you do to completely decompress

Speaker 1 no work no kids something stupid something settling is there what what would we be surprised to learn is your weird ass hobby or your shitty tv show that you watch i mean i watch i well okay so

Speaker 1 i i

Speaker 2 i'm obsessed with uh like

Speaker 2 reality uh real estate shows

Speaker 2 and I'm like always on my realtor app. I don't buy anything, but I like to fantasize about

Speaker 2 buying stuff all the time.

Speaker 1 That's why these shows are so popular. We do too.
The three of us. It's insane.

Speaker 2 I send listings to friends and they're like, just buy it then. Like, what do you like? What do you want from me?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, no, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Wait, so like those weird realtors. A million-dollar listing.
Yeah. Selling Sunsets.

Speaker 1 Owning Manhattan just started up again.

Speaker 3 I'm very excited.

Speaker 2 My guy, Ryan Surhant.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Ryan Surhant is like incredible. Came from nothing and built an empire.

Speaker 2 I'm very impressed by that man.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 No, but I mean, it's cool. I know.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But that's my, like, I, you know, I just like look at stuff. If I'm visiting, like, I don't know, I'm like traveling for work or even like I like doing road trips.

Speaker 2 And if I'm in a small town, I think is really sweet. Instantly, I'm kind of on like Zillow or the Realtor app.
And I'm like, what if I,

Speaker 1 what if I got another place here? What if I just like, you know,

Speaker 2 would come here all the time?

Speaker 1 What is it? I do the same thing. Wherever I go, I'm immediately thinking about getting a place there.
Is it because that's how I could feel like at home there? So I'm not home sick.

Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe it's a way to try to like get some control over.

Speaker 1 I feel like a lot of it comes back to control for me.

Speaker 1 Exactly. I want to be a local immediately.
What's the weirdest place that you ever like seriously considered? Like, maybe I will get a place here. Was there ever one of those?

Speaker 2 Bisbee, Arizona. Wow.
I was really considering. Yeah, I did a road trip.
I've driven cross-country like four or five times and

Speaker 2 I did one from L.A. to New York in December.
This was like, I don't know, 10 years ago.

Speaker 2 And the first stop was Bisbee, Arizona, which is like a very small town. It looks kind of like Laurel Canyon.

Speaker 2 Like the buildings are very pastel colors and there's, it's kind of hilly, but it's in the middle of, no, it's like desert, desert, desert, very small town, but very sweet. And

Speaker 2 we spent the night there in a bed and breakfast. Got up the next day, was like walking around talking to locals.
And everybody I spoke to, like nobody was from Bisbee.

Speaker 2 Everybody was just passing through. And then they opened a sandwich shop or they opened a clothing store.

Speaker 2 And it started to feel a little like Twilight episode-y, where I was like, oh, maybe this is one of those towns you stop in and you just, you can't get out of.

Speaker 2 And I did get out, but then for about six months, I was considering getting like

Speaker 2 a little house in Bisbee, Arizona.

Speaker 1 What about these drives across country? Did you, did you, you ever have a big run-in with a cop? Do you like to speed?

Speaker 2 I didn't. I'm really responsible on the road.
You are?

Speaker 2 So you do this speed?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do live across the country.

Speaker 2 I go 10 above the speed limit.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You set the cruise control. They won't nab you.

Speaker 2 I just keep going at 10.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I did get a flat in St. George when I was driving cross country a couple years ago.
In the middle of the night, there was no one around. I didn't have cell service.

Speaker 1 And that was spooky. It's the worst.

Speaker 2 And then I, uh, and then I finally got a cop stopped, and I got a spare.

Speaker 2 And I was going to spend the night in Vegas. I was on my way back to LA, but there was like a fight night, and everything was booked.
Everything. I'm talking like holiday ins were booked.

Speaker 2 All the nice hotels were booked. Eventually,

Speaker 2 I got a hotel room. It was like the only hotel room left in Las Vegas, but it was like $2,000 for the night.

Speaker 2 It had a bowling out. It was like so absurd.

Speaker 2 So I spent $2,000 to like lie down at 2 a.m and then pretty much get up at 6 a.m to go get a real tire put on the car right because you just had a little pizza cutter back to la i just needed to sleep yeah you just slept in your car i should have i should have that's what i'm here for oh yeah

Speaker 1 another thing for the the list for your time machine

Speaker 1 um i know what you mean about that real like anytime scotty and i go anywhere we immediately go i always ask them like could you live here could you live here could you live there and it's always Those are many like Duncan franchises and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 No, but like, it's always the same thing where I think I would go, I think the idea of living smaller in a quaint town like Bisbee or whatever is great.

Speaker 1 But then the reality is, I don't know, this New York or L.A. or Miami or Chicago, the city really keeps you kind of going and alive.

Speaker 1 I'd feel too isolated, I think. Yeah, a little bit.
I need some big challenge. Well, you're for two things.

Speaker 1 are, A, Sean, that is that Sean does do that because I know for a fact you, Sean will go even further. He won't even just look at online.
He'll go and look at property with a local realtor.

Speaker 1 That's your true 100%. He does it.
He does it all the time. All the time.
Oh, whoa. Yes.

Speaker 1 Commitment.

Speaker 2 But you buy and you'll pull the trigger.

Speaker 1 No, God, no. No, no, no, no, no, no.
I just thought it was a good idea.

Speaker 1 He's wasted so many realtors' time. It's not even funny.
He's like,

Speaker 1 he thinks I got a real whale.

Speaker 1 But the other thing that I've noticed... Sorry, go ahead, Sean.
No, I was just getting the idea, Jeremy, the idea, like, do you come from a small town and you prefer cities now?

Speaker 1 Or do you like Brooklyn? No, I don't actually. He's from Brooklyn.
I know he's on the start of the show. Brooklyn's like,

Speaker 1 I know, but like, Brooklyn isn't like us, like, you know, Brooklyn's city. Like, so do you, go on.
Do you prefer the opposite of that as you get older? Because you didn't grow up that way?

Speaker 1 Maybe. I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 I definitely like the idea of maybe one day having a place that's more slow moving and I have, you know, a smaller place in LA or if I'm back in New York I have an apartment in the city and go upstate or Long Island or something like that you ever see yourself getting like a bunch of land and being like one of those guys with a bunch of like ranch ranch tools and having a cost

Speaker 2 again like the fantasy of it

Speaker 1 yeah I think

Speaker 1 you know one of those cap guns

Speaker 1 holding it upside down mr. Bateman

Speaker 1 I'd be so useless I think for a week it could be fun. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like I have the fantasy of it, but very quickly I'd realize there's no I could see you upstate.

Speaker 1 I could see you upstate or on Long Island. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I have some friends that are that are up there and it's and you know, I think it's sweet. And then,

Speaker 2 yeah, Long Island I think is really nice. And I had a, I rented a place last summer there that I really loved.
And

Speaker 2 we loved it.

Speaker 2 And yeah. And all my people, my folks are still in Brooklyn.
My sister's in Brooklyn. Oh, yeah, that's great.
So I like going back there and being close.

Speaker 1 Well, personally, I'd like you to stay here in Los Angeles so we can see each other.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is nice.

Speaker 2 What was the last movie? What was the last movie night?

Speaker 1 It's been a while. I mean, I'm still watching them.
Yeah. But the door is still unlocked, ajar, even, waiting for you people to come back.

Speaker 1 Fucking less creepy would be great. Just a little less creepy would be nice.
That's the name of my autobiography. The door's ajar.
The door's a jar. Oh, gross.
That's disgusting. God, it's so gross.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Ellen White. You,

Speaker 1 you are the man, man. Jeremy Ellenwick.
I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 Joe Dog.

Speaker 1 Joe Dog.

Speaker 1 It's just incredible. No, listen, we're all continued success.
Congrats on all of it.

Speaker 1 It's so well deserved. You've worked hard for it, and you've been just consistently great all the way along.
So

Speaker 1 we're big, big fans.

Speaker 1 I speak for Sean. Jason has his own take on it, which is a little more lascivious.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not there yet. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm working on him.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to play hard to get.

Speaker 2 Love you, Jeremy.

Speaker 3 Get over here again.

Speaker 2 This is a pleasure. Thank you.
Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 Nice to meet you. Thanks for doing this, buddy.

Speaker 1 You guys, Jeremy Albert.

Speaker 2 You're the best. See you as soon, man.
See you. See you.

Speaker 1 Will, did you get that full plate of food done?

Speaker 1 First of all, he said you're the best, and he was looking at me. Do you see that? No, he was looking at my box.
My box.

Speaker 1 He was looking at me.

Speaker 1 You had a full plate of food delivered to you at the beginning of the interview. Did you get it all done? What is it? It was like Matzah Breast.
It was like a chicken salad.

Speaker 1 And who was it?

Speaker 1 It would seem like somebody was on their hands and knees down there at the door opening. What was it? She didn't want to interrupt.
She didn't want to interrupt.

Speaker 1 It was Carolyn. That was Carolyn on her hands and knees.
She wasn't on her hands and knees. She bent down to put it at the door because she didn't want to interrupt.
She was being very respectful.

Speaker 1 She should have come in. Said hi.
I love her. I know.
Love her. Don't you mess that up, Will.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Jesus. If it starts to get wobbly, you just hand it over and let us fix it, and then we'll give it back.

Speaker 1 That's how relationships work, right? Yeah, sure. That's exactly how it works.
You hand it over.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I'm out of milk.

Speaker 1 Sean, is this the same Snickerdoodle? Yeah, he just killed it. He killed the last bite.
Good boy. Oh, there's some more left on him.

Speaker 1 How great is he? I've never met him.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's just the greatest. He's such a nice guy.
I've only met him.

Speaker 1 He's so nice. He's a good, normal person.
He's great. It would have been great up there on that stage.
Are we going to reschedule that? Are we going to do

Speaker 1 the bowl maybe like in the spring or something like that? Maybe let's make a commitment that we're going to do something. Spring, summer.
Yeah, why don't we do the bowl?

Speaker 1 Or let's for sure do it when it's not raining. We can't do it in the summer because they do the

Speaker 1 Philharmonic there in the summer.

Speaker 1 Every night?

Speaker 1 Most of it's programmed. Why can't you do it over the summer?

Speaker 1 What about the beginning? Getting LA Phil's in there through the summer. Are you waiting?

Speaker 1 Before the rain starts, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Don't argue with me. I'm happy to do it at any point.
I think it's all about the guests. When could we get guests in there? Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 You know, we got to get some big shot guests because we're not cutting it. Okay.
People aren't coming out to see us blather on sitting on a couch. They want to see it.

Speaker 1 Wait, how did you and Jeremy meet again?

Speaker 1 Grinder.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 He's so crazy about it.

Speaker 1 JB,

Speaker 1 JB, you didn't know this. Sean didn't want to say it because he's embarrassed because the same guy created The Bear.
Sean is about to do. They're doing the spin-off.
He's doing The Cub.

Speaker 1 It's a different show.

Speaker 1 That's a different doing.

Speaker 1 It's on YouTube or it's on PornTuber or whatever.

Speaker 1 But whatever. It doesn't matter.
Hey, listen. Is that fun? Sounds fun.
By the way, when I saw the title of the bear, I was like, I'm in, Clay.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's about a restaurant. Me, man.
Happy click off.

Speaker 1 People are talking about food. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Wait,

Speaker 1 is Grinder the hetero one or the gay one? Nice try. Which one? Say, listen.
Oh, yeah. Hey, I'm confused.

Speaker 1 What are you doing here?

Speaker 1 i'm so good hand hand to god on my kids life i don't which is which is which which is what what are you asking is it tinders one of them's the gay one one's grinder the gay one just think g gay nervous you're directing someone i just want to make sure they got that on any

Speaker 1 record account we're still recording counts

Speaker 1 um wait you know i when jeremy was playing uh bruce springs oh boy here we go jesus there is a song

Speaker 1 that i wonder because i haven't seen it yet

Speaker 1 i haven't seen the show yet and and i wonder if he sang the song in in the movie called Johnny Bye-bye. Do you know that song?

Speaker 1 At least commit to it. No, I was just like...
Go right bye. Bye-bye.
Johnny Bye-bye.

Speaker 1 Bye-bye.

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