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Speaker 2 Bury it as deep as you wish.
Speaker 4 Cover it with darkness and night and shadows and lies, but
Speaker 1 some secrets are like seeds.
Speaker 1 Welcome to the garden.
Speaker 6 YC Studios, you're listening to Spook.
Speaker 6 Stay tuned.
Speaker 7 Support for Spooked comes from Oakland's San Francisco Bay Airport.
Speaker 11 OAK offers non-stop flights to your favorite destinations across the U.S. and Mexico with new non-stop flights to Los Cabos and Zacatecas.
Speaker 15 OAK makes travel easy with Park OAK's convenient parking options.
Speaker 18 Reserve a spot in the daily lot or economy lot and save on your next trip.
Speaker 19 Book today at iflyoak.com.
Speaker 13 The best way to San Francisco Bay.
Speaker 21 Tis the season of gifting and holes to deck.
Speaker 22 And the Who's in Houdonville were in love with new tech.
Speaker 25 Where can we find Sonos and Samsung and Nintendo? They shouted. Would they find it in one place?
Speaker 26 This they questioned and doubted.
Speaker 25 When suddenly a who yelled, Walmart's the place to start.
Speaker 20 And each who added headphones, TVs, and games to their carts.
Speaker 25 With Walmart, their shopping was done in a flurry. They cried out, who knew?
Speaker 26 and ordered their gifts in a hurry.
Speaker 25 Shop the latest tech gifts in the Walmart app.
Speaker 27 Bob Evans creamy mac and cheese and buttery mashed potatoes are made for those holiday moments you just can't plan for. Like when the neighbors burnt their holiday meal and you invited them over.
Speaker 27 Or that time when everyone's flights home were canceled and they stayed an extra two days. So when there is no plan, say hello to Plan BOB.
Speaker 27 When you bring out the Bob, you can take comfort this holiday season, knowing you'll always have something delicious on the table no matter what the holidays bring.
Speaker 27 When you need comfort, bring out the bomb available now in your refrigerated section.
Speaker 28 Lowe's knows that saving is always top of mind, especially this season.
Speaker 30 That's why we've picked some great deals for early Black Friday.
Speaker 28 Get free select DeWalt, Cobalt, or Craftsman tools when you buy a select battery or combo kit.
Speaker 30 More tools? Why not?
Speaker 28 Plus, we've got select pre-lit artificial Christmas trees starting at $59.98 because it's never too early to think Christmas. Get Black Friday prices without the crowds.
Speaker 30 Lows, we help.
Speaker 29 You save.
Speaker 28 While supplies last, selection varies by location.
Speaker 32 This podcast is supported by The Real Real.
Speaker 33
You know what I love most about the holidays? Giving gifts. But not just any gifts, real gifts, thoughtful gifts.
Oh my God, how did you know gifts? That's why I love gift shopping with The Real Real.
Speaker 33 The Real Real is the most trusted name in authenticated luxury resale, and it's a holiday shopping secret I'm going to let you in on.
Speaker 33 Whether it's a surprisingly affordable, pristine pristine condition bag for your BFF, a vintage find that's cool enough for the Gen Zer in your life, or even something you're impossible to shop for dad will love.
Speaker 33 Get used to saying I found it on The Real Real.
Speaker 33 Seriously, with over 10,000 new arrivals dropping every day from brands like Gucci, Fendi, Prada, Louis Vuitton, Tiffany Co., and Cartier, there's guaranteed to be something for everyone on your list.
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Speaker 37 when I was very very young I saw something that no child should ever see
Speaker 2 something in fact no person should ever experience and I knew as little as I was I knew almost instantly that I had to pretend I didn't see what I saw.
Speaker 2 And
Speaker 38 I had never held a secret before.
Speaker 39 I did not want to hold this one.
Speaker 38 Because the less I said,
Speaker 37 the more I saw.
Speaker 2 Those images the more that horrible scene crystallized in my mind.
Speaker 37 But
Speaker 39 I never told.
Speaker 37 Even when my grandmother asked me, and my grandmother's eyes burned hot with my lies, even then,
Speaker 37 I never told.
Speaker 4 I never said what I saw.
Speaker 3 I didn't know
Speaker 4 who I was protecting with my silence
Speaker 39 or why.
Speaker 39 And now,
Speaker 2 Decades later, the only thing
Speaker 2 I do know
Speaker 21 is that they didn't deserve it.
Speaker 4 From Snap Judgment's Underground Lair, my name is Kim Washington.
Speaker 6 Keep your own secrets,
Speaker 1 not someone else's.
Speaker 1 Spook starts
Speaker 1 now.
Speaker 5 Have you ever heard them say what you don't know can't hurt you?
Speaker 1 Well,
Speaker 2 our first story caused me to reconsider such received wisdom.
Speaker 21 We begin with Jennifer
Speaker 41
as a parent. You always want to protect your kids.
Looking back, maybe you know,
Speaker 41 it is best to just be forthcoming and not try to protect them.
Speaker 41 When we first bought the house,
Speaker 41 I was aware that there had been a death at the home because my husband actually went to school with a young lady that passed away there,
Speaker 41 Libby.
Speaker 41 They were friends and he would go pick her up at her house, which became our house, and they were close for a while. I did feel a little hesitant to move in because of the story story he had told me.
Speaker 41 He was aware that she had passed and there was always something kind of mysterious about her death.
Speaker 41 She died in the barn behind the home.
Speaker 41 But he did knock the barn down completely and it was, he said it's not part of the home. We remodeled the home extensively, so it felt like a new home initially.
Speaker 41 Taylor, my oldest daughter, was our only child when we purchased the home. We decided because she was so little, I didn't think it would serve a purpose other than scare her if
Speaker 41 we mentioned anything about the history of the home. We just wouldn't mention it or bring it up.
Speaker 43 And at first, when Jennifer and her family moved in, things were peaceful, normal, quiet.
Speaker 43 But that didn't last too long.
Speaker 43
One night, after about two years of living in the house, the family was asleep. This is Taylor, Jennifer's daughter.
She was about seven at the time.
Speaker 44 We heard just the loudest crash, like there was a window shattering. And my father immediately gets up.
Speaker 44 He grabs his gun, because we're in Texas, and he starts searching the house because he thinks there's an intruder, he thinks someone's breaking in.
Speaker 44 And he looks around and he can't find a single thing. And the next morning when he wakes wakes up, he notices that a family portrait of ours is missing from the shelf.
Speaker 44
So he goes over to see where it is, and he sees that our family photo is just has fallen face forward. So you couldn't see our faces.
Like someone had just pushed it over face forward and it smashed.
Speaker 41 That's when we were first made aware that something
Speaker 41 wasn't quite right there.
Speaker 43 But still, Jennifer and her husband agreed they wouldn't indicate to Taylor that anything was wrong. And when they had another child, Joseph, they decided they would keep the secret from him, too.
Speaker 44 It was just a normal afternoon. We were just hanging out.
Speaker 41 And I was not feeling too good. I was napping in our bedroom.
Speaker 43 That's when Joseph came running into Jennifer's room and woke me up and was crying.
Speaker 41 And he was very shaken and he said, Mommy, mommy, there's a lady in the living room.
Speaker 44 He said that there was a woman and she had no feet. She had long blonde curly hair.
Speaker 41 And she was just floating across the house and that she turned her head very sharply and just gazed at him.
Speaker 41 So he closed his eyes and started to cry and when he opened them she was gone.
Speaker 41 I felt pretty darn
Speaker 41 terrified after that to be honest with you.
Speaker 41 That did shake me up.
Speaker 41 So
Speaker 41
I knew for sure that he was talking about Libby when he described what he saw in the living room. And he had not heard anything about the situation there.
He knew nothing of it.
Speaker 41 We had never brought it up.
Speaker 43 But still, Jennifer didn't say anything. She kept quiet, year after year after year.
Speaker 43 As her kids got older, they felt more and more that something
Speaker 43 or someone
Speaker 33 was in the house with them.
Speaker 41 I've heard voices. I've heard knocking on the wall.
Speaker 23 Banging on the wall.
Speaker 44 Like someone was just banging with their fists as hard as they possibly could against the wall.
Speaker 43 But still, Jennifer didn't tell Taylor and her brother that she believed Libby was haunting the place. That she believed that what the kids didn't know couldn't hurt them.
Speaker 43 And then when Taylor was a teenager,
Speaker 44 I was laying in my bed and I was facing the wall.
Speaker 44 And all of a sudden I feel this pressure on top of me. And I was still wide awake.
Speaker 44
And I feel this pressure and I'm just, I'm terrified. I don't know.
I just can sense that something is in the room with me. And all of a sudden, I just hear this deep gasp for air.
Speaker 44 It sounded like, ooh,
Speaker 44 like someone is like dying, like taking their last dying breath. But it just happened once.
Speaker 44 And then I turned my body and I see this black, shadowy, smoke-like mask just kind of implode into itself and then it kind of just sucks down into the ground and completely vanishes.
Speaker 44 This wasn't Casper your friendly ghost actions. This was
Speaker 44 a ghost who wanted your intention to torment you a little.
Speaker 43
Taylor decided she would keep this experience to herself. She worried that if she said something, her parents wouldn't believe her.
Or they would just ignore her.
Speaker 44 They were in the kitchen talking about it, and I had been in the other room watching cartoons.
Speaker 44
And I walk, as I walk in, and I don't think they realize it, they were saying, oh, you know, it was a suicide, and Chepis, he knew her. Chepys is my dad.
That's his nickname.
Speaker 44 And I was like, what are you guys talking about? Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 44 They're just telling a story.
Speaker 43 But Taylor was pretty sure her parents weren't just telling a story. They knew something about the house, about the haunting.
Speaker 19 And then.
Speaker 41 Middle of the night, dead asleep, and I
Speaker 41 awoke just suddenly,
Speaker 41 and she was
Speaker 41 hovering over me,
Speaker 41 kind of like the way a skydiver hovers as they're descending.
Speaker 41
And I could see her very vividly. She wasn't in spirit form.
She was very much
Speaker 41 flesh and blood.
Speaker 41 And she was looking at me very intently.
Speaker 41 And she had these
Speaker 41 just locks of very, very dense, curly blonde hair.
Speaker 41 And she was
Speaker 41 very
Speaker 41 young looking, like a very young looking adolescent, almost childlike.
Speaker 41 And she was wearing a very flowy blue and white dress.
Speaker 41 And she was just staring at me. I felt
Speaker 41 a piercing look towards me.
Speaker 41 It wasn't friendly by any means.
Speaker 41 And I started screaming
Speaker 41 and my husband turned on the lights, and she went away.
Speaker 8 Support for Spooked comes from Oakland's San Francisco Bay Airport.
Speaker 11 OAK offers non-stop flights to your favorite destinations across the U.S. and Mexico with new non-stop flights to Los Cabos and Zacatecas.
Speaker 15 OAK makes travel easy with Park OAK's convenient parking options.
Speaker 18 Reserve a spot in the daily lot or economy lot and save on your next trip.
Speaker 13 Book today at iflyoak.com, the best way to San Francisco Bay.
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Speaker 50 The epic euphoria gummies are perfect for those days when you want to chill and hit the reset button.
Speaker 21 What makes these different is how they've paired THC and other cannabinoids with herbs and adaptogens.
Speaker 50 You're just not going to find gummies like this anywhere else.
Speaker 6 No pesticides, no BS, and they can ship to most states in the U.S.
Speaker 37 Best of all, not only does Mood stand behind everything with the industry-leading 100-day satisfaction guarantee, but as I mentioned, listeners get 20% off their first order with code SPOOT.
Speaker 47 So head to mood.com, browse their amazing selection of functional gummies, and find the perfect gummy for whatever you're dealing with.
Speaker 37 And remember to use promo code SPOOT at checkout to save 20% on your first order.
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Speaker 1 The Who's Down and Who Newville were making their list. But some didn't know Walmart has the best brands for their gifts.
Speaker 24 What about toys?
Speaker 52 Do they have brands kids have been wanting all year?
Speaker 53 Yep, Barbie, Tony's, and Lego.
Speaker 54 Gifts that will make them all cheer.
Speaker 55 Do you mean they have all the brands I adore?
Speaker 56 They have Nintendo, Espresso, Apple, and more.
Speaker 57 What about
Speaker 58 who answered questions from friends till they were blue?
Speaker 26 Each one listened and shouted, from Walmart?
Speaker 22 Who knew?
Speaker 25 Shop gifts from top brands for everyone on your list in the Walmart app.
Speaker 32 This podcast is supported by The Real Real.
Speaker 33
You know what I love most about the holidays? Giving gifts. But not just any gifts.
Real gifts. Thoughtful gifts.
Oh my God, how did you know gifts? That's why I love gift shopping with The Real Real.
Speaker 33 The Real Real is the most trusted name in authenticated luxury resale, and it's a holiday shopping secret I'm going to let you in on.
Speaker 33 Whether it's a surprisingly affordable, pristine, conditioned bag for your VFF, a vintage find that's cool enough for the Gen Zer in your life, or even something you're impossible to shop for dad will love.
Speaker 33 Get used to saying I found it on the Real Reel.
Speaker 33 Seriously, with over 10,000 new arrivals dropping every day from brands like Gucci, Fendi, Prada, Louis Vuitton, Tiffany ⁇ Co., and Cartier, there's guaranteed to be something for everyone on your list.
Speaker 33 Oh, and did I mention everything's up to 90% off retail?
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Speaker 41 I was
Speaker 41 extremely shaken
Speaker 41 when I told my husband what I saw.
Speaker 41 He was
Speaker 41 like, he was in shock.
Speaker 41 And that's when he said, you just described Libby.
Speaker 41
Our kids did start to ask questions about who this lady was. As a parent, you mean you always want to protect your kids.
You know, there was a part of me that didn't necessarily want them to feel,
Speaker 41 you know, scared or spooked.
Speaker 44 I do feel that I was always seeking that truth about why my house was haunted.
Speaker 41 But, you know, in the end, I mean, the truth usually surfaces anyway, so.
Speaker 43 One summer, Taylor had surgery on her leg, and she was lying in bed. Her doctor had put her on bed rest.
Speaker 44 In my bed all day in this room, alone on the other side of the house from everyone else, I would keep the shutters closed. I was just kind of always in the dark.
Speaker 43 Lying in the dark, all Taylor could think about was the ghost in her house. Who was she?
Speaker 43 Now that she had a lot of time on her hands, she decided she would try to find out.
Speaker 44 I found a newspaper archive of newspaper issues from way back in the 60s and I was spending just hours and hours searching and searching until finally I got to an obituary page and I remember seeing her name for the first time and there was almost this relief to it.
Speaker 44 I remember it saying,
Speaker 44 Libby died
Speaker 44 on this date by fire.
Speaker 44 The fire occurred in a
Speaker 44 storage room
Speaker 44 in the back of the property where they kept they had horses on the property they kept saddles they kept feed they kept different hay the circumstances surrounding her death were very mysterious
Speaker 44 when she was found she was found with a saddle on top of her body and there had been a fire around her
Speaker 44 and some speculated it was suicide and some speculated it was a cover-up that she had overdosed on some sort of drug. It just felt like this one weird piece of the puzzle just fit right in.
Speaker 44 And I had her name, and I knew that she had died by fire. And I knew that
Speaker 44 she was the one, that she was the one causing all these problems, that this restlessness and this anger was coming from her.
Speaker 43 Taylor held on to this information for three years.
Speaker 43 She didn't say a thing to her brother, her mom, or her dad.
Speaker 43 And then one night, at dinner with family friends at their favorite restaurant, she finally had the guts to bring it up. And so she asked.
Speaker 43 And her dad broke down and told her about Libby, his friend, and about how, when he first bought the house, he had knocked down the barn where she died.
Speaker 44 He felt like he couldn't keep it. He felt like there was too much.
Speaker 44 there was just something there that he didn't want around.
Speaker 44 So he had them knock down the walls and he had them take out the slab foundation, cover it with dirt, and he felt like there, it was done and buried.
Speaker 44
He didn't have to worry about it. And he felt like that would keep everything at rest.
He felt like that would that it would kind of cleanse it, but it didn't. It really didn't.
Speaker 41 I didn't realize that she knew as much as she knew.
Speaker 41 So when did you discover that she knew as much as she knew? When you told me
Speaker 41 just now.
Speaker 41 I think we're keeping a few secrets here in this family, but maybe not telling the kids wasn't the best decision. It was,
Speaker 41 you know, good intentions on our part, but maybe we should have explained to it, you know, on their terms so that it would give them an understanding and a perspective of maybe why things were happening the way they were happening.
Speaker 43 The family has since put the home up for sale and they've moved to a different house.
Speaker 41 You know, we left a few things there and it hasn't been sold yet. Just as recently as a few weeks ago, my son Joseph went to the house to get shoes.
Speaker 41 And he went in, went to grab the shoes, and heard a bang, like somebody just kind of banging on the wall, but light.
Speaker 41 And then, as he was walking through the house, it just got louder and louder to the point where it was deafening. And he just bolted out of there.
Speaker 41 So, I think whatever's there wants to be left alone.
Speaker 46 Thank you, Jennifer and Taylor, for sharing your story.
Speaker 50 Folks, these wonderful women are spook listeners.
Speaker 47 We are so grateful they shared their supernatural experience with us because mysteries abound.
Speaker 47 And if you have a ghost story in your back pocket, don't keep it to yourself.
Speaker 48 No, share it with the world.
Speaker 21 Let us know at spookpodcast.org.
Speaker 3 Now, in just a moment, some relatives don't know how to let go.
Speaker 3 Spooked.
Speaker 3 Now then,
Speaker 2 when Maria Foster was only three years old, her family moved to Los Angeles.
Speaker 38 But Maria grew up listening to those stories all about her mother's childhood in the Mexican Sierra Mountains. Spook.
Speaker 45 All of her sisters had lots of children. Everybody had six or seven children.
Speaker 45 My own grandmother had 12, for heaven's sakes.
Speaker 45
My mom only had two girls. And the pressure was always on to have boys and have boys and have boys.
And because she did not have boys, then somehow she was minimized.
Speaker 45 My father, he always disparaged her for saying, you only gave me women. You know, what good are they?
Speaker 45
Biajas, hussy would call them. They only gave me broads.
I need sons.
Speaker 45
My mom, she just couldn't have babies anymore. So then my father moved on.
And sure enough, with this next relationship, boom, he has a boy and sends my mother a Polaroid of this boy.
Speaker 45 I was 12, and he sends this Polaroid, and mom shows, Look, your father had a son. And she's crying and crying and crying.
Speaker 45 she's crying in the bedroom she's crying in the kitchen she's just crying and i'm like well what the hell am i what am i chopped liver
Speaker 45 we were too poor so i couldn't have the traditional quincienera with all the
Speaker 45 escorts and dresses and party and what have you but that's when my mother sat me down okay you're 15 now you are um available now to be married and i'm like what i'm in junior high school what are you talking about i was supposed to marry a good Mexican man and
Speaker 45 I was supposed to have children. That was my duty.
Speaker 45 More than anything, she wanted to have grandchildren. And more than just children, she wanted to have a boy grandchild.
Speaker 45 And it just, it must have been eating at her.
Speaker 45
And so we had a whole bunch of people at a party. I distinctly remember we were at someone's house.
I'm playing guitar. We're singing.
Speaker 45 People are singing together, there's food and drinks, and then my mom's sitting in a corner there, and all of a sudden, I hear her wail,
Speaker 45 No caboya tenevnietos.
Speaker 45 I'm never gonna have grandchildren.
Speaker 22 What?
Speaker 42 And I'm looking at her like
Speaker 45 it's it was like that moment where the guitar goes on tune and the string bangs rain.
Speaker 42 What did you say?
Speaker 45 And she looked at me so
Speaker 12 forlorn, so sad.
Speaker 45 I'm like, okay, song's over. I'm out of here.
Speaker 8 Support for Spooked comes from Oakland's San Francisco Bay Airport.
Speaker 11 OAK offers non-stop flights to your favorite destinations across the U.S.
Speaker 14 and Mexico with new non-stop flights to Los Cabos and Zacatecas.
Speaker 15 OAK makes travel easy with Park OAK's convenient parking options.
Speaker 18 Reserve a spot in the daily lot or economy lot and save on your next trip.
Speaker 13 Book today at iflyoak.com, the best way to San Francisco Bay.
Speaker 46 Let me tell you about the online cannabis company that's revolutionizing how we deal with life's challenges.
Speaker 47 From sleepless nights to stress-filled days, Mood.com has created an entire line of functional gummies that target specific concerns with 100% federally legal legal THC blends delivered discreetly right to your doorstep.
Speaker 37 You can get 20% off your first order at mood.com with promo code spooked for me.
Speaker 50 The epic euphoria gummies are perfect for those days when you want to chill and hit the reset button.
Speaker 21 What makes these different is how they've paired THC and other cannabinoids with herbs and adaptogens.
Speaker 50 You're just not going to find gummies like this anywhere else.
Speaker 6 No pesticides, no BS, and they can ship to most states in the U.S.
Speaker 37 Best of all, not only does Mood stand behind everything with the industry-leading 100-day satisfaction guarantee, but as I mentioned, listeners get 20% off their first order with code SPOOOOOOT.
Speaker 47 So head to mood.com, browse their amazing selection of functional gummies, and find the perfect gummy for whatever you're dealing with.
Speaker 37 And remember to use promo code SPOOOT at checkout to save 20% on your first order.
Speaker 1 The Who's Down and Who Newville were making making their list, but some didn't know Walmart has the best brands for their gifts.
Speaker 24 What about toys?
Speaker 52 Do they have brands kids have been wanting all year?
Speaker 53 Yep, Barbie, Tony's, and Lego.
Speaker 54 Gifts that will make them all cheer.
Speaker 55 Do you mean they have all the brands I adore?
Speaker 56 They have Nintendo, Espresso, Apple, and more.
Speaker 57 What about so?
Speaker 58 The Who answered questions from friends till they were blue.
Speaker 26 Each one listened and shouted, From Walmart?
Speaker 22 Who knew?
Speaker 25 Shop gifts from top brands for everyone on your list in the Walmart app.
Speaker 28 Lowe's knows that saving is always top of mind especially this season that's why we've picked some great deals for early Black Friday get free select DeWalt Cobalt or Craftsman tools when you buy a select battery or combo kit more tools why not Plus, we've got select pre-lit artificial Christmas trees starting at $59.98 because it's never too early to think Christmas.
Speaker 28 Get Black Friday prices without the crowds.
Speaker 30 Lowe's, we help.
Speaker 29 You save.
Speaker 28 While supplies last, selection varies by location.
Speaker 32 This podcast is supported by The Real Real.
Speaker 33
You know what I love most about the holidays? Giving gifts. But not just any gifts, real gifts, thoughtful gifts.
Oh my God, how did you know gifts? That's why I love gift shopping with The Real Real.
Speaker 33 The Real Real is the most trusted name in authenticated luxury resale, and it's a holiday shopping secret I'm going to let you in on.
Speaker 33 Whether it's a surprisingly affordable, pristine conditioned bag for your BFF, A vintage find that's cool enough for the Gen Zer in your life, or even something you're impossible to shop for dad will love.
Speaker 33 Get used to saying I found it on The Real Real.
Speaker 33 Seriously, with over 10,000 new arrivals dropping every day from brands like Gucci, Fendi, Prada, Louis Vuitton, Tiffany Co., and Cartier, there's guaranteed to be something for everyone on your list.
Speaker 33 Oh, and did I mention everything's up to 90% off retail?
Speaker 34 Get $25 off your first purchase at thereal.com.
Speaker 36 That's thereelreal.com to get your $25 off thereel.com.
Speaker 45 My sister and I were dating, we're going out, we're going dancing, we're going to the clubs, and we'd be getting dressed up to go and do our disco thing.
Speaker 45 And she'd be sitting on the sofa, all morose, nun cabojete ne nietos. There they go again.
Speaker 45 Or she'd be muttering in the kitchen, nun cabojete yetos, as she'd be closing the door, you know, nun cavo yetos. Ah, nun cas, she'd slap her head, nun cavo yetos.
Speaker 45 I'm like, oh my god, what a fixation.
Speaker 45 I turned 29 and
Speaker 45 then I just discovered very late on that I was very pregnant. I was four and a half months pregnant.
Speaker 45 And I called my mother, I did who else do I call him in a day and I go, mom, now she has not seen me in two years, okay?
Speaker 45 She hasn't seen me since I'm 28 because by now she's moved back to Mexico and she's living happily ever after over there and I call her up I go mom I'm pregnant oh I knew it I knew it the last time I saw you you looked a little heavy I knew you were pregnant
Speaker 45
And I'm thinking to myself, okay, she's lost her mind. I haven't seen her in two years.
How could she possibly know? But she knows there's no talking her out of it.
Speaker 45 And she's going to tell the whole world.
Speaker 45 And she did. Oh, Maria's pregnant.
Speaker 42 Finally, glory, hallelujah! She's pregnant.
Speaker 45 I thought I would never see the day.
Speaker 45 I didn't want to know the gender of the baby because I had all of these boy-girl issues. So when the baby was born and I hear the doctor said it's a boy, I remember saying, Oh, thank God.
Speaker 45 And then I said, Oh my god, I can't believe I just said that.
Speaker 45
So, yes, I had a boy, and he's beautiful. Zachary, Zachary James is his name.
And as soon as mom could bust through that hospital room door, she did.
Speaker 45
She lifted him up, not like Simba in the Lion King, but darn close. She lifted him up.
I have a photograph. And just looks at him like the most precious thing she's ever laid her eyes on.
Speaker 45 She has this angelic glow about her.
Speaker 45
And it was him and his grandma. I mean, he sang songs about his grandma.
He played games with her.
Speaker 45
And then when she really got sick, her whole thing was done. Well, tell Zachary that I love him.
She was just so young.
Speaker 45 She was only 53 when she passed.
Speaker 45 She only got those three short years with Zach.
Speaker 45
She didn't see Zachary go to his first day of school. She didn't see Zachary in his Halloween costumes.
She wasn't there for any of the Christmases. She wasn't, she just wasn't there.
Speaker 45 After mom passed, my sister and I would talk on the phone and cry. It was just the two of us.
Speaker 42 We felt like orphans.
Speaker 45 And Friday night, she came over, we're having dinner, and it was myself, my sister, and my son, Zach. And he's still in his high chair because he's only three.
Speaker 45
I know we served entomatadas. Instead of enchiladas, my mom would make us entomatadas with tomato sauce because we wouldn't eat it.
We didn't like chili when we were little.
Speaker 45 So we just had entomatadas, which was the fried tortilla with the tomato sauce and some pepper and tons of cheese so we were remembering mom and we're having entomatadas
Speaker 45 and we're eating
Speaker 45 and all of a sudden Zachary says in Spanish nun caboya tenernietos
Speaker 45 I'm never gonna have grandchildren
Speaker 45 And we just stopped dead. I look at my sister and we look at the baby and I asked him, what did you say? And he says,
Speaker 45 And I just looked at my sister and I'm like,
Speaker 42 who else said that?
Speaker 45 The baby couldn't have known.
Speaker 45 He couldn't have known.
Speaker 42 I go,
Speaker 42 who told you that?
Speaker 45 Oh, me Buela.
Speaker 45 When did you see your bulla? Oh, in la noche at night. So what does she say?
Speaker 45 And
Speaker 45 he extends both his little arms and he says, she says, Tukutuko, no tengas miado, so yo, buela.
Speaker 45 Which means, Tukutuko is her baby.
Speaker 40 Talk to her.
Speaker 45 He said,
Speaker 45 don't be afraid. It's me, grandma.
Speaker 42 He's using her words.
Speaker 45 He's only three. And he's using her language and her gestures, the way he's expressing himself and putting out his little arms, explaining, Tukutuko, I love you.
Speaker 45 And then we start to start whispering, my sister and I, and her eyes were bugging out of her head. She stopped, literally, she was like taking a piece of food and the baby says,
Speaker 42 and she stops with the fork halfway to her mouth.
Speaker 45
What should we do? I don't know. Should we have a mass? It's Friday night, Tony.
Where are we going to get a mass?
Speaker 45
Maybe if we get a candle. Yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.
Let's get a candle.
Speaker 45
So we pack up the baby. Forget the dinner.
We go to the supermarket and it's this whole 12-foot section of nothing but the holy candles with Jesus and Mary and Guadalupe
Speaker 45 and I happen to like cobalt blue glass so I picked a really beautiful blue glass candle
Speaker 45 and we took it home and we set it not in the dining room table but I had a little cubby and so that night when we went to bed we said our prayers and in the morning we got up
Speaker 45 And
Speaker 45 I look, the candle is about 18 inches tall and it is in in what, about a two-foot little cubby hole. It has fallen over on its side.
Speaker 22 I'm like, God, how could it knock?
Speaker 45
Maybe there was a tremor. Maybe there was an earthquake.
How could that possibly happen? I'm trying to figure out the physics of the candle falling over on its side.
Speaker 45 And then I'm realizing, well, if the candle fell over, you know,
Speaker 45
what a danger. I'm going to burn the house.
We're all going to die in our sleep. You know, I'm already being visited by a dead person.
Speaker 45
I hope this isn't an omen. My mind's racing.
So I'm like, okay, so tonight, tonight I'm going to put this thing in water.
Speaker 45 So we put the candle again in the, in the, this time I put it in the kitchen sink. So I figure if it falls over, at least it'll fall in the water and there's no danger to the house.
Speaker 45
And then we go to bed and we pray and we pray and I'm praying really ardently now. Oh dear God, I don't know what's going on.
I don't know if that's my mother. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 45 If it's my mother, why is she here? Does she need something? Does she need us to pray for her? You know, help me figure this out because you're scaring me.
Speaker 45
In the morning, I got up and I went to check in the candle. That was my priority.
The thing had exploded into a million pieces.
Speaker 45 A million pieces. Not like it fell over and cracked into two or three.
Speaker 42 It exploded.
Speaker 45
There was glass everywhere on the sink, on the kitchen counters, on the breakfast counter, on the floor. It was on top of the microwave.
It was everywhere.
Speaker 42 Everywhere.
Speaker 45 And then I hear my sister coming down, and she said, What happened? And I'm stuttering.
Speaker 45
I'm telling her, I don't know. I don't know.
It's August. It's hot.
The water shouldn't have been cold. It shouldn't, the candle heat from the glass.
I'm trying to figure out the physics of it.
Speaker 45 It couldn't have, it couldn't have caused the explosion. I don't understand.
Speaker 45 I think her love for that boy child was greater than all the universe. And she
Speaker 45 left too early. She got really sick very quickly, and she just left before she had time to be with him.
Speaker 45 And here comes the pitter-patter of Zachary James,
Speaker 45 coming down the stairs.
Speaker 45 And he says,
Speaker 45 Disa me built, que no le gusta la luz.
Speaker 45 Oh, for the love of God.
Speaker 45 My grandma says she doesn't like the light.
Speaker 45 Oh my god, my heart drops again.
Speaker 42 She's still here.
Speaker 45 I said, why not? She's no la dejadormid. It doesn't let her sleep.
Speaker 42
Oh my god, we've done it wrong. We've done it wrong.
I've done something terribly wrong.
Speaker 45 What else did she say? She said,
Speaker 42 Tuku, tuku,
Speaker 45 I love you, but I can't visit you anymore. And was that it? No.
Speaker 45 Cuidado con el vidrio no te cortes.
Speaker 45 Careful with the glass. Don't cut your feet.
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