🛁 Jacuzzi: Legend of the Life-Saving Tub | 7

Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to the best idea yet early and ad-free right now.

Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

What are you doing this weekend?

What am I doing this weekend?

I mean, honestly, I know what you're doing this weekend.

You're going up to Napa.

You Molly love popping up to Napa.

Yeah, when you pop up.

That is like our verb of choice.

You're so right.

But you know what's funny?

Like when you're driving up to Napa and everyone's envisioning what it is, like this wine mecca of the world.

Yeah.

The first winery that you pass when you make a write-off of 101, it says the jacuzzi winery.

It's got to be a type of winery.

Well, you know, I saw that first and I was like, well, this sounds like a fun idea.

Yeah, I would do a wine tasting in a hot tub.

No, it's not.

I mean, I know Robert Mondavi is pretty famous up there.

Jacuzzi sounds Italian as well.

Yes, it does.

Jack, this ain't no translationer.

I mean, yeah, Jack and I did get curious about this jacuzzi winery situation.

Well, it turns out when you check out the ownership structure of this winery, it actually is the jacuzzi family, like jacuzzi incorporated, Jack.

The jacuzzi family, they're not just doing hot tubs and bubbles and hot water.

No, they're doing bubbles and wine too.

Yeah, and the reason that the jacuzzi family had so much money to buy a winery is because the jacuzzi family created the most iconic product of its kind.

What's so shocking about the jacuzzi family to me isn't the number of family members.

There were 13 siblings, by the way.

Good point.

It's the number of different businesses they ran together.

Because, Yeti's, Jack and I love a pivot story.

There are product pivots, there are use case pivots, there are marketing pivots, there are moving sofas up the staircase pivots.

Ross with friends, if you know, you know.

But Bessie's, there is one pivot in particular that Jack and I have noticed is bigger than just all the others.

It's bubbly, it's steamy, and it's part of your room upgrade at the Ramada because that pivot is the jacuzzi.

You know me.

My name can send goosebumps up and down your spine, make you forget your troubles, and put your mind completely at ease.

The name jacuzzi is trademarked, but it's also used generically to mean any jet-powered hot tub.

Yeah, Jack, it's become one of those things where you say the specific brand name to mean any make of that one thing.

Like you got your chapstick, you got your band-aid, you got your Tupperware, and you got...

your jacuzzi.

But this 20th century invention draws on 4,000 year old traditions.

It is humans.

We've been soaking in hot springs since we stood on two legs from Japan to Mexico to Iceland.

But it's jacuzzi that brought hydrotherapy into the modern era, creating a global market that's expected to surpass $6 billion by 2026.

In fact, there is an estimated 26 million operational hot tubs around the world.

And Jack, could you sprinkle on a little more hot context for us over there, please?

That is one hot tub for every Floridian, plus every Utah.

You can't forget about Utah.

But the Jacuzzi journey is about so much more than just kicking off your boots and soaking under the Park City stars.

Yeti's, this story's got everything.

Fighter pilots, game shows, Scarface's bathtub, and seven brothers running this business together.

But beneath the froth and bubbles, it's about a family business turning tragedy into opportunity and creating an iconic product through unexpected twists of fate.

Hang on to your speedo.

Oh, yeah.

Because jacuzzi didn't just create an entirely new category.

Yeah.

Jacuzzi is the best idea yet.

That's the spot, Jack.

Hot, hot, hot, hot.

Oh.

From Wonder and T-Boy, I'm Nick Martel, and I'm Jack Cravici Kramer.

And this is the best idea yet.

The untold origin stories of the products you're obsessed with and the bold risk takers who brought them to life.

I got that feeling again.

Something familiar but new.

We got it coming to you.

I got that feeling again.

They changed the game in one move.

Here's how they broke all the rules.

Looking for an electric SUV that doesn't compromise on space?

Meet the all-new 2026 Ionic 9, Hyundai's first three-row, all-electric EV.

Space in an EV.

Finally, with an impressive 335-mile range, this isn't your typical EV.

Go further with up to an estimated 150 miles of charge in just 15 minutes on the Ionic RWD-9S when using a 350-kilowatt DC ultra-fast charger and CCS adapter.

Actual charge time may vary.

Plus, with glass-leading interior space, seven high-powered USB-C ports, and advanced features like highway driving assist 2, every journey is seamless.

And for peace of mind, there's a 10-year 100,000-mile battery warranty.

Ready to explore more?

Learn Learn more about the Ionic 9 at HyundaiUSA.com.

Call 562-314-4603 for complete details.

Let's start this episode by easing into our hot tub time machine.

Let's do it, Jack.

I like it.

We're standing on an athletic field, ringed by a racetrack, just steps from the San Francisco Bay.

The air is thick with July summer heat.

and the buzz of propellers as a biplane takes flight.

It's 1915 and we're at the Panama Pacific World's Fair in San Francisco.

Now, this 10-month expo, it's showcasing the best in technology.

From steam locomotives to this newfangled airplane thing, I'm a jiggy.

It's like CES for the Woodrow Wilson House.

Yes, it is.

Since it's 10 months long, 18 million people visit.

Nick, that's a fifth of the U.S.

population.

That is huge.

The people came to see a direct telephone line that connected San Francisco to New York.

No, you hang up.

No, you hang out.

And they also came to see a new form of travel that was still in its infancy.

Airplanes.

Now the crowds are oohing and the crowds are on as they watch the stunt pilot of one of these aeroplanes in action.

But there's one observer who's not so impressed.

He's a young mechanic who goes by the name Raqueley Jacuzzi.

He's working as an engineer and about to change aviation history.

Little does he know, his family name will become synonymous with relaxation.

Yeah, Raqueley, he's an Italian immigrant.

He's an inventor, and he's the eldest of 13 children.

13.

More on them in a minute.

In the meantime, he's working as an engineer for the future founder of the aerospace company, McDonnell Douglas.

This guy is obsessed with flying.

Obsessed.

So while most people in that airfield are dazzled by the aviation demo, Rakeley is noticing something that might only be obvious to an engineer.

The stunt plane's propellers aren't very efficient.

For their size, they're not giving the plane the liftoff that they should.

And Raquele thinks, I can do better than that.

And you know what?

He does because Raquele invents the toothpick propeller.

It's made of wood, but it's narrower, it's straighter, kind of looks like a toothpick.

They're stronger than a toothpick, though.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the improved aerodynamics of this jacuzzi propeller packs a punch while being lighter than most existing propellers.

It's a huge advancement in aviation.

To manufacture his new propeller, Raquele opens a machine shop in Berkeley, California and calls it Jacuzzi Brothers Incorporated.

Because besties, this guy has so many brothers.

He could cast an entire episode of the Jersey Shore.

Now, interesting, Jack.

Back in the old country, Raquele and his family had been known as the Iakutsis.

But in 1907, Papa Iakutsi relocated the entire family to avoid the coming war.

That coming war wasn't World War I, but a forerunner called the Italo-Turkish War.

Papa Iakutsi had seven sons in danger of being drafted into the war and six daughters to protect as well.

So they arrived at Ellis Island in waves, where their name was misspelled from Iakuzi to Jacuzzi.

I mean, Jack, the same thing happened with my family at Alice Island.

We lost the O on Martello, and I kind of missed it.

Can we bring that down?

He got robbed.

We got robbed.

I can feel for these jacuzzi boys.

And Jack, by the time Rukelli starts his machine shop, most of his brothers have joined with him in America.

So they're manufacturing enough toothpick propellers to impress everyone from celebrity pilot Charles Lindberg to a feisty new division of the U.S.

Armed Forces known as the Air Force.

When America enters World War I, Brickenley's toothpick propellers help win it, allowing American dogfighters to dominate the airspace.

And less than 18 months later, the war is over.

Great news for society, bad news for the defense industry.

No more war means no more military contracts for the Jacuzzi brothers.

So the Jacuzzi brothers, they need to pivot pivot now nick as far as pivots go this first one from jacuzzi it's pretty logical okay raquele loves flying and back then anyone could fly like there was no regulation no faa to drag you back down to earth oh fantastic it's like riding a bike so what does raquele do he starts to fly and then these jacuzzi brothers they decide to build their own airplane they throw all their money into building an aircraft called the jacuzzi j7 it's a monoplane with a fully enclosed cockpit.

Both of these were new innovations at the time because back then, most planes were biplanes with open cockpits, which meant the pilots were held in by just a seatbelt holding on for dear life.

You'd be dodging geese, you'd like be picking bugs out of your teeth.

And so we're Kelly, he's feeling like a roof and a windshield.

Yeah, that'd be a good addition to the plane, especially since they're thinking ahead to accommodate passengers as well as cargo.

It's a big undertaking, and the whole family pitches in.

The brothers' wives wives even sew the canvas covers of the wings.

It's like the olive garden.

When you're here and you're working on the plane, you're a family.

And the jacuzzi J7 makes history as the first fully enclosed monoplane to be built and flown in the United States.

It works beautifully for months and the jacuzzi start thinking about how to make their money back, like carrying mail for the U.S.

Mail Service, which looks and seems like a very sustainable, consistent business model.

Makes a lot of sense.

FedEx before FedEx.

But on the morning of July 14th, 1921, something awful happens.

On a test flight from Yosemite, a wing of the J-7 snaps off.

The plane crashes over Modesto, California, killing all four men on board, including Jacuzzi brother number six, Giocondo Jacuzzi.

Mom and dad, Jacuzzi, they are devastated.

And so the parents announce a major personal decision that changes the entire business.

They forbid their remaining children from having anything to do with flying ever, ever again.

The jacuzzi children are literally grounded.

But Yeti's, there is a silver lining of having to pivot out of necessity because pivoting out of necessity forces you to get creative.

Like think about Netflix, how it began as a DVD company only to pivot to online streaming once the technology evolved and people started moving away from DVDs.

DVDs becoming obsolete was the best thing to happen to Netflix.

Exactly.

Because it forced them to evolve.

So Jack, what's Raquele Jacuzzi thinking as this news hits him and his family?

He has exactly the kind of creative mind built for this tough moment.

One day, he's staring out into the lush orchards of the San Joaquin Valley, which is in the midst of a renaissance.

20th century engineering has made it much easier for farmers to access groundwater for irrigation.

Suddenly, it smacks him in the face like the aroma of his mom's brajole.

Remember, Raquele, he's an expert in fluid dynamics, and these skills can also translate from air to water.

So Raquele stops looking up into the sky and he starts looking down to the ground.

He takes that airplane instinct and focuses it on farming instead.

Raquele gets an idea for how to improve irrigation pumps.

He invents a new pump that forces water into the ground, creating a vacuum that draws more groundwater up from the aquifers below.

And Jack, this new pump really works.

It's wildly effective.

And as soon as the jacuzzis put this new pump on the market, it is in high demand.

Soon, the lettuce seedlings, blossoming almond trees, and fragrant orange groves feeding America are being watered by the hot, new, powerful pump.

Oh, baby.

The jacuzzi pump.

The jacuzzi pump.

I'm sorry, Jack.

Pause the pod for a moment.

Time check here.

America is sliding into the Great Depression.

And yet, the big new invention transforming California's economy are these jacuzzi freaking pumps.

I mean, what's good for California, it must be excellent for the jacuzzi brothers.

It is.

And even the youngest brother, little Candido Jacuzzi, is pitching in for this family business.

Unlike Raquele and his older brothers, Candido had only gotten a little taste of schooling.

As one of the last siblings to arrive in the United States, his English isn't great, but he's going to school at night and he's selling jacuzzi water pumps door to door by day.

Despite being the worst brother at English, Candido is a natural-born salesman.

He's like heading out to the farms, demonstrating a new pump.

And it turns out the language of sales isn't about the words you're actually saying.

It's just about making a relationship with people.

It's pretty inspirational.

Soon, the jacuzzis are handling everything from deep well injector pumps to swimming pool supplies.

America doesn't run on Duncan.

By the 1930s, it's running on jacuzzi pumps.

Yes.

But in 1937, Raquele, working feverishly on new inventions, from solar power generators to crop defrosters, he suddenly dies of a heart attack at the age of 50.

Raquele, he's been the family's leader and the primary driver of the company's entire strategy.

Without Raquele, there would be no pumps.

He took the company from the air to the ground.

So now everyone is wondering who will lead the jacuzzis next.

This jacuzzi family isn't just a company.

It's a culture.

It's an institution.

It's a little society.

They get together and decide it's time for one of the remaining brothers to step up, and leadership passes to the youngest, the family salesman, Candido Jacuzzi.

So, Jack, it's 1943.

Candido is married.

He's got four kids.

Now, unfortunately, the jacuzzis, they are no strangers to tragedy.

And while Candido is in his office one day, he receives awful news.

His youngest son, two-year-old Kenneth, has been diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, and doctors are saying that he won't even make it to age eight.

So Candido and his wife Inez are determined to save their two-year-old son.

They put Ken into a full body cast for a full year

and inject him with gold salts.

Nothing is working.

Well, we should point out, Jack, that almost nothing is working.

Because one of Kenneth's doctors tries a new technology, a little something that hasn't actually been applied yet to kids.

It's called hydrotherapy, and it uses a big oval-shaped metal tub that's called a Hubbard tank.

The Hubbard tank basically looks like a giant metal sink.

Yes.

It has motors that heat and stir the water, and the patient sits on a bench in the tub and lets the hot water massage their pain away.

I'll tell you, though, it looks like something that belongs to a barn.

Yeah, I know what you mean, Jack.

They're not selling this thing at Sharper Image.

So, does this creepy-looking new metallic structure work?

Oh, it works.

It's relaxing, it's calming, and most of all, it helps ease little Ken's swollen joints and stiff muscles.

His parents are thrilled.

It's a big ugly sink, but it's a miracle.

His mother Inez takes little Kenneth in for treatments twice a week, an hour drive away from their house.

He's basically living in this thing just to stay alive.

And his fingers are like pruned up 24-7.

But the long drive is super painful for little Ken.

So Inez begs Candido to take a look at the Hubbard.

Here's what she's thinking.

Hey, Candido, your whole family works with water, right?

Like good you.

Build something like this tub for our boy, maybe

even better.

On Boxing Day 2018, 20-year-old Joy Morgan was last seen at her church, Israel United in Christ, or IUIC.

I just went on my Snapchat and I just see her face plastered everywhere.

This is the missing sister, the true story of a woman betrayed by those she trusted most.

IUIC is my family and like the best family that I've ever had.

But IUIC isn't like most churches.

This is a devilish cult.

You know when you get that feeling where you just, I don't want to be here.

I want to get out.

It's like that feeling of, I kind of want to go hang out.

I'm Charlie Brentcoast Cuff and after years of investigating Joy's case, I need to know what really happened to Joy.

Binge all episodes of The Missing Sister exclusively and ad-free right now on Wondery Plus.

Start your free trial of Wondery Plus on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or in the Wondery app.

Okay, so at this point, we have little Kenneth Jacuzzi, a boy with a chronic debilitating condition.

His family has found a hydrotherapy treatment that works, but traveling to and from those treatments is wreaking havoc on his body.

But there is one silver lining.

Ken is a jacuzzi.

He's from a family of brilliant engineers and inventors perfectly poised to create something new.

Because Candido Jacuzzi now knows that this freaky metal hummocker schlemmer of a water tub machine may save his son.

And his family business is water pumps, so he's got to whip up one of these for their home.

But turns out it ain't as easy as filling a tub.

Because remember, Yeti's, Candido's the salesman.

He's not the engineer.

But he's also proof that you shouldn't put people in a box.

He's determined to find a way.

So he starts taking a jacuzzi brothers sump pump, the kind you'd use to get water out of the basement, and he begins adapting it for use in a bathtub.

We have a picture here.

Nick, can you describe what we're looking at?

Yeah, I'll describe this, Jack.

This initial water pump bathtub thing, it's kind of like a speedboat motor crossed with a Vitamix you know yeah but you put it in a bathtub so it basically takes a big pool of water in your bathtub yes and turns it into like a bubbly adventure it makes you feel like a smoothie is what we're saying looks a little dangerous I'm actually kind of scared as we describe it this little contraption it is churning bathtub water just like that ginormous hubbard tank but here's the question man is it working absolutely it's working Ken is on his hydrotherapy treatments every day in the comfort of his own home now with no brutal commute to and from that hubbard tank.

Thank God.

And when they show Ken's doctor their contraption they built, his response is instantaneous.

He doesn't just say it works.

He implores them, you gotta make more of these things.

Okay, so this is basically the same pump that the jacuzzi family used for food on farms, but they've now applied it to tubs for people.

It's another pivot.

They didn't just pivot the product, they pivoted the purpose.

Totally.

And the whole hydrotherapy unit was literally just meant to be a device for Ken.

But once the idea is in Candido's mind, it all makes sense.

Yeah, it does.

Look, not everyone has a farm they need to irrigate, but everyone gets sore muscles and sore joints.

And everyone loves a bubbly frenzy of a hot tub situation.

So Candido wants to pursue the relaxation market.

But Jack, this is like the Jacuzzi family.

I feel like you can't get anything done with this crew unless you bring it up at dinner and like half the tables voting on this.

So how do his brothers react to this new application of their legendary famous family farm pumps?

They're not into this latest pivot.

Up until now, jacuzzi has mostly been on a B2B model, working business to business.

Now, Jack, becoming a consumer-facing business, a B2C business, that's a totally different strategy.

And it carries a whole bunch of new business risks.

Yeah, yeah, it does.

Because the other Jacuzzi brothers know there are already big players in the consumer appliance market, which is what Candido is thinking about moving into.

They would have to face companies like General Electric, Goliath of the industry, and Jacuzzi.

They're just the little David.

If GE decides they want to make hydrotherapy bathtubs, Jacuzzi would be done for.

If they poke the bear, they're going to get eaten.

I mean, Jack, it's sort of like when you're a startup and Google takes an interest in your technology.

Just ask Sonos about that.

That's a story for another pod.

Well, jacuzzi's current pump and irrigation business, it's doing great right now, Jack.

Like, they they just built a two and a half million dollar facility in Richmond, California.

Why would you ever change a business that is thriving?

Plus, it's a family affair.

The jacuzzis determine their own destiny, and the company is providing jobs to many jacuzzi cousins, among others.

I mean, basically, if you got two Z's in your name, you're hired.

So, why fix a business that's successfully pumping on all cylinders to the tune of $35 million a year in today's money?

Well, Candido, remember, is the family salesman.

And eventually, he just wears them down.

They don't pivot the entire business, but they agree to establish a new division of the company, Jacuzzi Research Inc., and they start production of their very first Whirlpool back device, the J300.

The J300.

Now that, Jack, that sounds like a sharper image device.

And after testing, pumping, gallons and gallons of spilled water and a whole lot of bubbles, five years later, it's approved.

On December 16th 1952 it finally comes through a jacuzzi branded hydrotherapy pump for your tub you place one of these pumps into any full bathtub you plug it into the wall and your bathtub boom it is a water pumping cyclone of sensation jack i'm listening to everything you just said and honestly it's kind of crazy to think about how close this was to not happening right because like if ken hadn't gotten sick or if candido had listened to the skeptics and his family somebody else would have probably invented this, and we might have a totally different name for hot tubs today with a totally not-as-good product.

Or we might not even have hot tubs.

There's no guarantee somebody would have invented this.

And the impact on ludicrous lyrics alone, Nick, would be devastating.

Don't even get me started, Jack.

It reveals something inspiring about this jacuzzi family.

Yeah, it does.

For every tragedy they faced, they turned it into an opportunity.

They learned from it, they pivoted, and they succeeded.

Post-war America is a marketer's dream.

Every GI family is settling down in the suburbs with a new office job ready to spend.

Optimism is in the air and people want to buy baby buy.

Bonnie, I just brought home a new microwave.

That's inside a new toaster.

It is a splurge fest on home goods and comfort.

I mean, Jack, if you're not smoking a cigarette on your new back patio furniture, then how else are you going to make your neighbors jealous?

So right at the perfect moment, the first jacuzzi finally hits the market in 1953.

Their first sales are via special orders to other pain sufferers like Ken.

But by 1955, they decide to expand to a broader category of buyers.

They send an army of salesmen to drugstores, to bath shops, and even take this portable bathtub unit door-to-door.

I mean, Jack, the door-to-door salesman, truly a lost art.

Nick, would you mind reading this quote from an advertisement from that time?

Yes.

And feel free to put your best Shelly Levine spin on it.

Shout out to Glengarry if you know, you know.

Here we go, Jack.

For the tired businessman and the harried housewife, for the golfer with sore muscles, for the aches and pains of senior citizens, for frolicking youngsters, and for those who just want to relax and pamper themselves with a hydro massage bath.

I'm salt, man.

I mean, Jack, grab me a coal and meet me at the jukebox, buddy.

We're good to go, man.

You see, the jacuzzi device may have started as a medical product, but that was before the jacuzzi brothers realized how much spending power the new American middle class was about to have.

Besties, those who do benefit now have more disposable income, more savings, and more buying power for products besides the essentials.

They have money for their starter home and money for their lawnmower and a stand mixer and a coffee maker, all of that to boot.

And Jack, this consumerist environment, that's exactly where Jacuzzi finds themselves as they launch a new product.

Their pitch for their J300 Whirlpool machine is this.

It's not just a medical device for the disabled.

It's for Ozzie and Harriet, dads and housewives, golfers and gardeners, and even the frolicking youngsters.

The jacuzzi is for everyone.

So let's talk about the TAM here, the total addressable market, because the total addressable market of everyone is a whole lot bigger than the addressable market of people with disabilities.

Yes, Nick, the opportunity is huge.

But Candido knows they're on borrowed time.

Remember, if this product is successful, it won't be long before General Electric or another behemoth swoops in and overwhelms them with pure name recognition alone.

Classic.

Someone is going to zuck his idea.

Yeah.

If jacuzzi is going to compete, they'll need to make sure their name gets out there first.

And this job falls to a man with a much more boring name, Ray Schwartz.

Ray Schwartz.

Now, Ray, he's an ex-sports writer from Oakland, California, and he's the in-law of Jocondo Jacuzzi.

So Ray joins the gang as the head of Jacuzzi Research Publicity.

And when it comes to seeking out product placements, he takes big swings.

And he's got his eye on a new game show that's just debuted, Lights, Camera Bubbles.

On stage, host Jack Bailey sails through his opening lines.

His mustache is trimmed, his salt and pepper hair slicked back to reveal a perfect widow's peak, and his posture totally relaxed, as if the studio audience is sitting in his kitchen.

It's 1956 and the lights in the TV studio are searing.

Backstage, four women are getting their hair and their makeup touched up for their big moment.

Because we're on the set of a new game show where housewives dealing with terrible hardships tell their stories on air.

The audience then votes by applause for the woman with the saddest story.

And then she wins prizes and a very particular title.

You know something, there just isn't any better way to put it than would you like to be queen for a day?

Jack, I remember my dad telling me about this when i was little i didn't even believe it was a thing queen for a day is more than just a game show it's a killer opportunity for brand names to get in front of potential customers companies ranging from colgate to xlax to the california egg council they all sponsor the show why because queen for a day reaches up to 20 million viewers per episode jack i feel like we got to sprinkle on some modern media context here can you put the queen of the day viewer numbers in uh let's talk streaming numbers.

20 million viewers per episode is 6 million more than those who watched the Game of Thrones finale.

Not too shabby.

Now, of course, game shows don't just need sponsors.

They need prizes.

Yes.

Products that become part of the contestants' winnings.

They can see their sales skyrocket.

Just watch Legends of the Hidden Temple and you'll know what we mean.

And the way you're describing the show, Jack, it's kind of like a 1950s version of Oprah's favorite thing.

You get a car.

You get a car.

You get a car.

And guess what?

Whatever that car is, it probably sees its sales boost right afterwards.

Oh, yeah.

Because although he wouldn't understand what you mean by Oprah, Ray Schwartz, he recognizes this too.

The jacuzzi's healing properties are a perfect match for the show's downtrodden and ailing contestants.

So if you'll join me back under the studio lights, Jack, I'm with you.

Our contestants have shared their tales of woe, and they're now sitting nervously together on stage.

Jack calls out each one's number, and the Applauseometer comes to life as the audience claps.

They seem to love contestant number three.

The arrow spikes.

That applauseometer is about to bust.

Contestant number three is Queen for a Day.

Jack starts to call out the prizes that she's won.

The perfect way to relax, it's with a jacuzzi whirlpool bat.

So Ray Schwartz, he's sitting at home miles away from that TV set.

But as he's watching it, he's starting to smile because this is the start of something big.

Apparently, all those 20 million Americans watching Queen for a Day, they needed a good massage.

Checks out.

Because after its first appearance on the country's big new TV show, Jacuzzi saw its sales hockey stick.

They can barely keep up with production.

They're shipping tubs from Toledo to Tallahassee.

But Ray Schwartz isn't finished with his quest for universal name recognition of jacuzzi.

As an ex-sports reporter, Ray has connections to major league baseball players like Joe DiMaggio and by extension, the glitzy world of Hollywood.

Ooh, and that is when he pulls off one of the most high-profile celebrity endorsement strategies in the history of fame.

He persuades the likes of silver screen legends Rita Hayworth, Jane Mansfield, and Marilyn Freaking Monroe to strip down, loosen up, and pose with...

a jacuzzi bathtub.

Pose in a jacuzzi bathtub.

Oh, and not just posing in, Jack.

Talk

that there jacuzzi bathtub because they're giving testimonials too.

I mean, Jack, if you think about it, this is really one of the first influencer campaigns in America.

Like, nothing sold a tub, quite like a mid-century Kim Kardashian.

Hashtag promoted post.

But you know what, Nick?

Jacuzzi is jealous of those actors they're partnering with because jacuzzi wants their own fame.

Interesting.

So just a few years later, the company pursues an early product placement.

Jacuzzi goes full Hollywood with its own big screen debut.

Their tub has a supporting role in The Fortune Cookie, which is a film at the time by Billy Wilder.

And it should have gotten Oscar.

Jacuzzi got snubbed.

The main characters in this movie play scammers trying to get a personal injury settlement from an insurance company.

And they use a J300 jacuzzi to try to trick the PIs who are trying to bust their scheme.

But just exactly how does it work?

Well, first, you gotta run some water in the tub.

Alrighty.

Say, where's the switch on this jacuzzi thing?

No switch, just plug it in the wall.

I mean come on,

that is product placement at its finest.

But there is another feature, which we heard Jack Lemon mention that will become the source of another major pivot.

Remember when he said, you just plug it into the wall.

Yeah, yeah, he said that 30 seconds ago.

Well, what's the first thing that you you learn about when it comes to electrical appliances and bathtubs?

Well, Jack, the first thing you learn is that you do not use them together.

So many people naturally are nervous about that scary looking wire.

Salesmen find themselves having to assure customers that, you know, you won't get electrocuted in the bathtubs.

So if jacuzzi really wants to be in every home in America, they're going to have to pivot again.

Event!

But this next pivot only happens with the help of another jacuzzi we haven't even mentioned yet.

Roy Jacuzzi has entered the chat and he's going to take jacuzzi in a new, exciting, and dare we say, Jack, sexy direction.

Time to toss on that speedup.

It's your man, Nick Cannon, and I'm here to bring you my new podcast, Nick Cannon at Night.

I've heard y'all been needing some advice in the love department.

So who better to help than yours truly?

Nah, I'm serious.

Every week, I'm bringing out some of my celebrity friends and the best experts in the business to answer your most intimate relationship questions.

Having problems with your man?

We got you.

Catching feelings for your sneaky link?

Let's make sure it's the real deal first.

Ready to bring toys into the bedroom?

Let's talk about it.

Consider this a non-judgment zone to ask your questions when it comes to sex and modern dating in relationships, friendships, situationships, and everything in between.

It's going to be sexy, freaky, messy, and you know what?

You'll just have to watch the show.

So don't be shy.

Join the conversation and head over to YouTube to watch Nick Cannon at night or subscribe on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast.

Want to watch episodes early and ad-free?

Join Wondering Plus right now.

So, we've talked about Raquele, the engineering genius who invented the jacuzzi pumps for farmers.

We've talked about Candido, the salesman who invented their home hydrotherapy product.

Now we're going to talk about Roy Jacuzzi.

Roy is Candido's grandnephew.

He's born just a couple years after Candido's son, Kenneth.

I mean, Jack, who's next?

Cousin Greg?

How many of them are there?

Enough for a 10th season of the Jersey Short.

Well, Roy, he's a true believer.

And he is all in on the Jacuzzi family business even before he graduates from college.

But Roy is not crazy about the design of their hero product, the J300.

Remember, Besties, the J300, great product, but it looks like an all-metal Vitamix/slash boat motor that you stick into your bathtub yeah even if you're not worried about electrocution this thing takes up a lot of space in the tub I mean Jack do you put it behind you do you put it in front of you like do you scrunch forward Roy calls it a bird bath because the tub is tiny when that thing's in there and he vows to make something better he's dreaming about the old country and the great Roman baths those marble-filled hand-tiled masterpieces of meditative indulgence.

Lovely.

He envisions a deep tub where you can submerge your entire body up to your neck.

His design features hidden wiring and jets, which transforms the jacuzzi from a medical device to a true luxury item.

So Jack Roy is on to something here, and he develops the new self-contained model of the jacuzzi, and he calls it the Roman.

He patents this design in 1968.

And honestly, it's not that different from the jacuzzis we see today.

Yeah, it looks good, Jack.

The price tag is about 800 bucks in 1968 or around seven thousand dollars today this change it's more than just pivoting your marketing from like home health products to recreation going from the j300 to roy's roman model it's more like going from a 20 mr coffee machine to a 2 000 barista grade espresso maker This isn't just a marketing pivot, it's a pivot in product and strategy.

Honestly, Roy's Roman bath is so different from the J300,

this changes the entire company.

And Jack, Roy then does something really smart to actually get these Romans off the show floor and into the homes around the world.

He takes the latest bottle to home builder and plumbing trade shows, and he gives the home builders a great deal.

For every $700 Whirlpool tub they bought, contractors got to keep $350.

He's sweetening the incentives in a major way.

Roy's idea turns homebuilders into his salespeople.

Essentially.

Yeah, that's what it does.

You're right.

And in the very first trade show, he takes home 50 to 60 orders.

Not bad.

Yetis, jacuzzis, they are officially on their way to becoming a luxury product and a status symbol.

Affordable to the well-to-do, envied by the up-and-comer, and soon an influential Hollywood makeover.

In the 1970s, the jacuzzi, as we know it, really takes shape.

After producing the Roman tub, Jacuzzi also develops fun innovations in fiberglass, another innovation from the jacuzzis, which allows them to create unique shapes and sizes within the tub itself.

Okay, so we're talking bigger tubs and smaller tubs and heart-shaped tubs, like in ground, above ground, tricked out with lights.

They're going full exhibit on this jack.

They're pimping out the product.

It's this development that creates the hot tub you probably see in your mind.

Jacuzzi has gotten so big that even President Nixon has a jacuzzi installed in the White House bathroom.

I mean, the stress of being the most important person in the world.

Actually, the stress of the Watergate scandal.

Yeah, good point.

Well played.

So after he resigns and Gerald Ford becomes president, Ford has an outdoor pool installed and adds a second jacuzzi.

Nothing crosses the political divide quite like a jacuzzi, Jack.

But jacuzzi knows that sex sells.

So it's time to go from PG to PG-13.

So the company ups its product placement game to get steamy in a 1970s Warren baby film.

Two beautiful twins try to lure him into the whirlpool by forgetting their swimsuits.

Or Jack, how about Scarface?

Al Pacinos in a giant round hot tub, smoking a cigar and yelling at Michelle Pfeiffer.

The company is building factories everywhere, from St.

Louis to Toronto to Sao Paulo, and it's still a family business, employing a whole bunch of jacuzzis.

And now, Jack, we should sprinkle on some context to the financials here because jacuzzi is hitting sales numbers that are just surging at this moment.

In 1974, jacuzzi grossed $67 million in sales.

By 1999, that number has spiked to 650 million in sales.

That's right.

In 20 years, this company's grown 10x.

And this might have been where we wrapped up our tale about jacuzzi.

It might have been.

But there's a parallel story around this family business that we've held back on the towel rack until now.

Jack, keep that speed on.

So after years of tragedy, the jacuzzi family is finally prospering.

They can relax, hit the tub, crank up the jets.

But there's one problem.

The family is also fracturing.

Candido, the devoted dad who created this entire product category to help his two-year-old six son, he also gets indicted for tax evasion in 1969 and is not so gently encouraged by the jacuzzi board to retire.

He moves abroad until medical issues force him back to the States where he has to pay a couple hundred Gs in back taxes.

By the late 1970s, there are over a hundred grandchildren of Papa and Mama Jacuzzi.

And most of them, they actually work for the Jacuzzi company.

Jacuzzi has over 250 stakeholders.

Board meetings are chaotic.

I mean, every meeting is also a high-stakes family reunion.

Without the cool custom t-shirts and the trips to Disney World, Jack.

Oh, and then there's this.

Different family members have been suing each other for years over things like selling assets without proper notice.

So the company's reserves are depleted.

They need cash to help fund future growth.

Now, this is a key moment because that's when jacuzzi decides to go public.

They want to have an IPO.

But then, as we know from covering IPOs, the macroeconomic environment can have different plans for you, right, Jack?

The oil crisis rocks the global economy and the IPO market freezes.

So word starts to get out that the company is looking to sell.

Instead of IPOing, they're going to sell the jacuzzi company.

But Big Hot Tub is about to get friendly with Big Finance.

Walter Kidd and Company, whose main business is smoke detectors and fire extinguishers, they make a bid for jacuzzi.

$73 million for the whole company.

It would be the biggest deal in water since H2 merged with O.

But it's still underwhelming for this family diamond.

It is.

With few other options, the jacuzzi family gets together, has what we imagine is a big pasta dinner that's probably delicious, and they decide, yes, it's time to sell Recompany.

The family's decision to sell the company when faced with internal conflicts and financial pressures, it shows the importance of knowing when to exit or when to seek external investment.

For the jacuzzis, that time was now.

Yeah, it was.

The company will change hands a few more times across the next 40 years, eventually landing with the European investment group, Invest Industrial.

The brand's estimated global revenue is $877 million as of 2023.

So as perspective, Yetis, less than a billion dollars for a brand that we all recognize?

Honestly, it's way tinier than I expected at this point, Jack.

It's barely grown since 1999.

So jacuzzi's revenues are less than the revenue from Deadpool and Wolverine.

But still, the family got what they needed back in 1979.

They got liquidity, even if not every member feels like they got what they wanted.

And despite its travels through private equity, jacuzzi is still here as a brand.

It is still the most recognized whirlpool brand in the world.

And today, you can find a jacuzzi in most mid-priced hotel chains and in a suburban dentist's backyard.

But it's still considered by most economists to be a luxury good.

Lifestyle outlets like Travel and Leisure still run articles today, like 20 hotels around the the world with stunning private hot tubs.

And Jack, we should share the wild stats we discovered about Airbnb's and jacuzzi's.

Airbnb estimates that a hot tub can increase a rental's booking rate by 13%

and increase a rental's price by 39 bucks a night.

Although Jack, we forgot to mention a jacuzzi's biggest risk of all.

I don't understand.

We back in time.

It's so scary.

Must be some kind of

hot tub time machine.

Yeah, you want to check the bubble settings, check the light settings, and check the year, apparently there's nothing worse than getting sent back to the wrong place to the wrong time in the wrong outfit jack always pack a second speedup so nick i've slipped into something a little more formal to wrap up the show with you

i appreciate it we have tracked the history of jacuzzi from airfields to farms to hollywood and to the white house and beyond yes after all those pivots What is your takeaway?

Jack, my takeaway on Jacuzzi is this.

The best minds in business change their minds.

Yetis, Jack and I first covered this concept with Domino's Pizza on our daily podcast show.

For years, Domino's said they would only do their own delivery and would never use a third-party delivery app like Uber Eats.

But then last year, Domino's pivoted.

They did a 180.

They changed their minds and they adjusted to a new reality selling their pizza on delivery apps.

And you know what?

Wall Street rewarded the stock.

When new information presents itself, you must consider changing your mind.

Yes.

Respond with the best information you have and treat every pivot as a chance to grow.

Just make sure when you do pivot, you commit.

Yeah, because half a pivot, more like just a flinch.

And Jack, can we pause the pod and recap the pivots this family took?

Because they pivoted from airplanes to agriculture pumps to bathtub pumps and then to full-on hot tubs because the best minds in business change their minds.

So Jack, what's your takeaway on Jacuzzi?

My takeaway is about the end of the story.

We've talked about family businesses a bunch of times on the best idea yet.

We had Birkenstocks, Levi's, Sriracha, all family businesses that lasted for decades under family management.

But most of those businesses end up selling at some point.

Well, they're not Sriracha.

We see you hot sauce kings.

So why do family businesses ultimately end?

Most often, it's the L-word, liquidity.

Because working with your family can be stressful.

It's also hard.

It is.

And if things start to fail, the fallout can feel really personal personal because your name is on the company.

A lot of times, heirs just want cash.

They don't want the stress and pressure of continuing the family legacy.

It's not necessarily a bad thing.

It's just part of the family business lifecycle.

I think what you're saying, Jack, is that when you're in a jacuzzi, you're family.

But Jack, I'm checking the temperature here and it feels like we reached our favorite part of the show, the best facts yet.

All the best little tidbits and factoids that we couldn't fit into the rest of the show but we can't leave you without whip em up what do we got man today jacuzzi operates multiple brands including sundance thermospas bath wraps and hydro pool but the best recognized of all is still the original also jacuzzis are still very much part of pop culture they've got a recurring role in the bachelor and love island honestly like roy always wanted he knew that hollywood would be the salesman for the jacuzzi.

They're the Andy Cohen of household appliances.

Actually, literally, I think Andy Cohen has like three of them in his New York path.

And finally, after all of jacuzzi's many pivots, they never strayed too far from this one idea.

We all deserve to feel relief.

Which brings us to one more lasting impact of jacuzzi's legacy.

Ken, the two-year-old, whose struggles with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis inspired the modern hot tub we know and love today, Ken became a tireless advocate for the disability community.

In fact, back when the J300 jacuzzi was patented, Ken earned a 1% cut of all the royalties for the use of his likeness in advertisements.

And then Ken went on to start a foundation that lobbies for people with disabilities.

Expanding accessibility and giving dignity to disabled people was a cause that he championed until his death at the age of 75.

75?

He beat his predicted life expectancy by 67 years.

Yes, he did.

He lived what he called, in his own words, a damn good life.

Just one more pivot that the jacuzzis had up their sleeve.

And another reason, the jacuzzi is the best idea yet.

Oh, Jack, I think I know where we got to go celebrate finishing recording this episode, man.

Is it a jacuzzi?

No, I'm thinking jacuzzi winery.

You got to get over here.

We got to start.

We got to hit the road, man.

I bet you they have jacuzzis in every room.

I mean, honestly, turn on the jets and pour a little Cabernet.

Although they don't serve it slightly chilled, I should point out, Jack, the Pinots are piping hot.

What's the dress code?

Seanos, or I'm not going.

Coming up on the next episode of The Best Idea Yet, it's the picture perfect story.

Polaroid.

Follow the best idea yet on the Wondery app, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts.

You can listen to every episode of The Best Idea Yet early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey at wondery.com/slash survey.

The best idea yet is a production of Wondery hosted by me, Nick Martel, and me, Jack Kravici-Kramer.

If you know the best idea yet, leave it here in the comments.

We want to hear it.

Oh, and by the way, we'd love your rating and review.

Yeah, the best way you can help grow the best idea yet is to drop down and give us a five-star rating, a review, and follow the show.

Our senior producers are Matt Beagle and Chris Gauthier.

Matt Wise is our producer.

Our senior managing producer is Nick Ryan, and Taylor Sniffin is our managing producer.

H.

Conley is our associate producer and researcher.

This episode was written and produced by Katie Clark Gray.

We use many sources in our research, including the following.

Ken Jacuzzi's 2005 book, Jacuzzi, A Father's Invention to Ease a Son's Pain, and Saskia Solomon's New York Times article, The Frothy Saga of the Jacuzzi Family.

Sound design and mixing by Kelly Kramer.

Fact-checking by Molly Artwick.

Music supervision by Scott Velasquez and Jolena Garcia for Freeson Sync.

Our theme song is Got That Feeling Again by Blacklack.

Executive producers for Nick and Jack Studios are me, Nick Martell, and me, Jack Ruvici-Kramer.

Executive producers are Dave Easton, Jenny Lauer-Beckman, Aaron O'Flaherty, and Marshall Louie for Wandering.

How hard is it to kill a planet?

Maybe all it takes is a little drilling, some mining, and a whole lot of carbon pumped into the atmosphere.

When you see what's left, it starts to look like a crime scene.

Are we really safe?

Is our water safe?

You destroyed our top.

And crimes like that, they don't just happen.

We call things accidents.

There is no accident.

This was 100%

preventable.

They're the result of choices by people.

Ruthless oil tycoons, corrupt politicians, even organized crime.

These are the stories we need to be telling about our changing planet.

Stories of scams, murders, and cover-ups that are about us and the things we're doing to either protect the Earth or destroy it.

Follow Lawless Planet on the Wondry app or wherever you get your podcasts.

You can listen to new episodes of Lawless Planet early and ad-free right now by joining Wondry Plus in the Wondery app, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify.