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Okay, let's set the scene.

It's the early 2000s, and a pop icon is on the cover of a magazine professing her love for a backup dancer.

No, it's not Madonna, it's JLo.

Wait, scratch that.

It's Brittany, bitch.

Yeah, that's right.

Our pop princess is making headlines for a lot of reasons, but one of those reasons is her hasty marriage to Kevin Federlein, aka K-Fed.

And while he and Brittany are married, he reinvents himself as a rapper, but with the styling of Ellen DeGeneres as my very credible source and guest, Robbie Hoffman, sees it.

So besties, let's get into how KFED possibly made the worst rap album of all time, or at least of 2006.

One of the most talked about men in the world, Kevin Federline, beats out.

Is Kevin a Hollywood hopeful or the real deal?

Kevin has been a tabloid target himself these past few months, called everything from a freeloader to a philanderer.

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I'm your host, Misha Brown, social media's superstar and king of shaken ass at your bestie Misha.

And I'm so excited because on our show today, we have a comedian and writer.

It's Alex Falcone.

Hey, Alex.

Oh, hello, Bestie Misha.

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Joining Alex on the show is another comedian, writer, and host of the podcast.

Too far.

It's Robbie Hoffman.

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How are you?

Oh, I'm really, really excited because you're here.

So thanks.

It's fantastic.

So before we jump into the story of Kevin, I guess I just want to shoot it over to you.

What do you remember about Kevin Federlein?

Well, full disclosure here,

I have the same birthday as Britney Spears.

So,

okay, and I found this out getting one of my first magazines ever when I was just a little kid.

Like, oh my God, we have the same fucking birthday.

I haven't talked about KFET in 10 years, and I need to.

Like, this is actually a catharsis stream.

When they said KFET, I wrote my manager, I said, bingo is is his name.

Oh, I'm all, I'm all on it.

What about you, Alex?

Were you a KFED stan back in the day?

There we go.

Okay, well, we are here to enlighten.

So, yes, today we are covering the man who was the talk of all the tabloids in the early 2000s, Kevin Federlein.

He's the backup dancer who married Britney Spears and desperately wanted to launch a rap career of his own, but completely failed because all his fame, money, and connections could not compensate for his total incapability to rock the mic.

Kaytha did work up as a male dancer.

I mean, so this is a backup dancer sounds like not the easiest job to get for a

he he really did work his way up to the middle of hand dance.

Yes, yeah.

He moved to L.A.

in 1996.

He was a former pizza boy who like he trained as a dancer.

Oh, I've seen this movie.

Yeah, exactly.

He had his big dream so that he could hang up that, you know, pizza delivery uniform once and for all.

And like so so many people who move to the big city trying to become famous or break into the music biz, he initially leads a very modest lifestyle doing this starving artist thing.

He lived with five roommates in a one-bedroom apartment.

He was slowly and surely starting to establish himself in the dance scene.

He made connections with other aspiring dancers.

He joins the community.

And these other dancers, they actually gave him a nickname.

Do you know what his nickname was?

No.

Dirt Cat.

Dirt Cat?

Yeah.

Why?

Because of his grungy look.

I thought he had a good look.

You'll notice that Brittany, Brittany, she's from, but fuck, Louisiana, if I'm not mistaken.

She didn't go up.

She doesn't need somebody,

you know, from Hollywood and this whole thing.

Okay.

When I saw at the gas station barefoot picking up Siggies, that is the real Britney.

Okay, that was her.

She just wants to pick up a Siggy, fill Villacor, be pregnant.

Like, that's what she wants to do, right?

And he

came from that.

He kind of had like an MM,

you know,

vibe to him.

He wore the oversized N1 brand, that sort of thing.

I would say, in during their relationship, she must, he was like this kind of southern bell boy, and she was, she was southern, but not the bell you think she is.

She was the white trash

southern, my favorite.

And shout out because I love you guys.

She wasn't that prim and proper.

Sure.

I feel like if you are a hot backup dancer and you meet a celebrity singer and they like you and they're like, you are going to be my kept backup dancer boy and you don't have to work ever.

I think that's more charming than him being like, finally, this is going to turn into my music career.

That sounds lovely.

But he was working.

He wasn't somebody that was just trying to find his big break through somebody already famous.

He started dancing with acts like Michael Jackson, Destiny's Child, even Justin Timberlake, which little did they know that one day they would be competing for the title of Britney's worst ex.

But things were going well for him and his personal life.

And in 2000, he starts dating an actress, Char Jackson, from the sitcom Moesha.

Oh, I recognize Char.

Okay.

And two years later, when Kevin is 24, they have a kid together.

So from there, Kevin gets booked to dance on an episode of Will and Grace and appears in Pink's Get the Party Started music video, a early 2000s classic.

He is an impressive career.

I already feel like not a flop.

His next gig, though, was a little more prestigious.

He makes his movie debut in You Got Served.

Really?

Yeah, I mean, he was just a background dancer and his character didn't even have a name, but still, things are, they're going great for Dirk Cat.

Being in a feature film is like a huge deal.

Especially a feature film about dancing.

Especially that.

I had to Google that.

I thought it was about tennis.

It turns out it's a dancing movie.

So that makes perfect sense for him.

Yeah, tennis.

Can we just back up here?

First of all, we have no right to be criticizing a man's career and how hard he's worked.

I've made a full 180.

Okay.

You know what it's like when people, it's like when people like criticize this, like this book or that album, you do it then.

You write a book.

You dance.

You dance back up in Will and Grace.

You dance back up in Will and Grace.

Exactly.

It's like he did something.

He went for his dreams, and I fucking respect the hell out of KFED up until this point.

Let the record show.

Just, you know, Misha, I'm taking full credit for this Robbie turner out.

I feel like I helped a lot with this.

You did.

I changed the attitude in the room.

Let's actually watch a clip of You Got Served.

Yes.

Which one's

red jumpsuit?

Oh, you're kidding with the long hair.

Now, if you're groups of dudes stealing each other for stealing dance moves, is that gay?

At what point?

Should they just kiss is what you're saying.

You should just kiss.

That part where they get up in front of each other, they should just kiss.

Your boy took your dance move.

I mean, yeah, at this point.

Just be gay.

Forget the whole movie.

Just be gay.

There's easier ways to be gay than this whole dance off.

Well, speaking of that, that, the reviews for You Got Served were savage.

They called You Got Served cliched, amateurist, and feeble.

And even though Kevin's got too small of a role in the movie to even get called out by name, it's his first flop.

All of the other things he did, they were all commercial successes and, you know, big projects.

This one, the critics even.

I expunge this from his record.

This can't possibly be his fault.

No additional dancing from him could have saved this movie.

No, no.

And he wasn't paid enough to have anything associated.

He is expunged of this flop.

Let it be known here.

It's still amazing that he got to be in this terrible movie.

Fantastic.

Absolutely.

And, you know, the reviews, they don't seem to hurt Kevin's confidence in the slightest.

Yeah, I don't read the reviews, Kevin.

Exactly.

Especially, though, when he's out at the club.

And everything changes for him one fateful night in April of 2004 when he meets someone at a nightclub called Joseph's in Los Angeles and it's Britney bitch.

We got to keep in mind this is like when Brittany's at the peak of her fame.

A few months earlier is her fourth album in the zone that hit top of the charts.

She's about to win a Grammy for Toxic.

Her latest world tour is about to make $30 million.

Oh.

And the press is in an absolute Britney frenzy because of her kiss with Madonna at the MTV Video Music Awards.

Brittany's sitting at her regular table in the club when she spots Kevin and she's the one who makes the first move.

That's right.

Kevin didn't waltz up to Brittany and say, hey, they call me Dirt Cat, want to dance.

Wow, you know what?

Gabby and I met outside

and I feel the organic meeting is just, there's something to it.

It's more than you and the person.

It's, it's an energy.

Well, you're right.

Brittany says upon meeting Kevin, quote, he was like a magnet.

I was being pulled.

It was so beyond my control.

Thank you.

We'll see.

Thank you.

Also, like, a lot of times people meet in the club and they're like, let's dance.

And then they just kind of like vibrate a little bit.

But, like, Brittany and Kevin could probably dance the heck out of a nightclub.

They probably danced well.

She's to this day.

Even when they ruined her and they took everything from her.

Even that one she did with the knives?

Yeah, she's still dancing.

They've gotten more violent.

There's no question.

But the dance is in her soul.

She will spin for the rest of eternity, that is for sure.

I'm happy about that.

This is actually kind of a cute meeting.

Yeah.

I'm really into them.

I'm going to be sad that when they break up now, you've convinced me.

You would be the only one in America.

So,

yes, meeting at the club.

This is the start of a whirlwind romance between Brittany and Kayfed.

Now, you might be thinking, wait a second.

Doesn't Kevin have a girlfriend, Char, and a young kid?

Oh, yeah.

Correct.

I wasn't wasn't thinking about, but you're right.

Good point.

I'm over it.

Brittany comes to you.

There's nothing to do here.

I mean, she must have been on his hall pass list.

Thank you.

But Char was also six months pregnant with their second child.

It's not great.

But by the end of April, Kevin's left Shar, who again is pregnant, and his daughter, who is almost two.

And by June, Kevin and Brittany are engaged.

Love it.

No notes.

The early 2000s was crazy.

I've told people, do not have kids.

This is liable to happen to you.

This is why I'm not having kids.

It's true.

I think it was the first time we met, and you were like, just don't have kids.

One of you might meet Britney Spears.

It's sound advice.

It is probably the best advice I've ever gotten.

Well, this is the early 2000s.

So when news of the engagement drops, people in Hollywood are ruthless about it.

They obviously do not think it's going to last.

They didn't find this story as cute as we did.

Okay.

They did not know.

So let's take a look at an Access Hollywood story about the couple.

Britney Spears got engaged.

Oh, right.

I'd heard that.

To her backup dancer.

Backup dancers, which it always works out with the backup dancers.

It's a given.

I'm sure there's some broken-hearted, you know, 19-year-old boys.

They wait a couple of months.

You know, she'll be back.

Wow.

Terrible from Samuel.

From Samuel.

So, I mean, if you're K-Fed, though, how are you feeling about people talking like that about your relationship?

Obviously, it's not going to work out, but you don't have to say that first.

Tell us the story first.

They're people.

I mean, look, I don't remember all of the 2006 coverage of Britney Spears, but I'm guessing they were mean to her no matter what happened all the time for everything.

So the fact that they were mean to her about a partner does not seem particularly surprising.

No.

Sure, sure.

Well, Kevin and Brittany, despite all of the media coverage, they go ahead and they get hitched on September 23rd of 2004, just five months after meeting each other in that club.

So how does Kevin get dressed up for his big day?

Well, he and his groomsmen wear white track suits with the word pimp on the back.

Classy.

So let's take a look at these outfits.

Oh, Pimp Daddy.

But you know she loved these.

You know she loved this.

She's from butt fuck Louisiana.

This is her shit.

Listen, Gab, listen.

You're talking to somebody.

I just got married in Vegas.

Me too.

This muzzle tough.

This is the moves right here.

The suits are beautiful, the custom.

Okay.

And Kevin's father and stepdad are wearing the pimp daddy ones.

So the other ones are pimps.

They both are pimp daddies.

Well, after getting married, Kevin and Brittany do what all newlyweds do.

They get a reality TV show.

Oh, why do I not remember this?

If the show was called

Over Under Six Months, how could people not watch that?

If it was just a show show to see how long before they get divorced,

that's a hell of a pitch.

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Zal Cohn does the distribution.

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The programming.

Do you understand?

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So at this point, the optics, they aren't great for Kevin when it comes to these gold digger accusations flying around.

He's driving around in a Ferrari worth 200 grand, and he is still going out to the club on a regular basis, sometimes dropping thousands of dollars in just one night.

But Brittany's hoping this show will set the record straight about her and Kevin.

She says, from the day Kevin and I met, there have been constant rumors and inaccurate speculation about our lives together.

I am really excited about showing my fans what really happened.

And Kevin is also hoping that this reality show might finally be the thing that helps him launch a music career of his own.

So the show, it's called Brittany and Kevin, Chaotic.

Wait, with a K?

K-hyphen autic.

No.

Oh, okay.

Wait, would have been so good.

It premieres on UPN in May of 2005.

It is just six episodes long.

It includes Brittany and Kevin's home videos and it's all about their relationship and how they went from club music to wedding bells.

I want all six episodes.

Is there any way to stream these?

We can look into it.

Please.

But here's the intro.

I want what everyone wants.

My ideal guy would be somebody that hasn't really seen that much because I have and I'd like to see through him.

I just didn't believe in the fairy tale.

I care about you.

If you ever watch this date,

I care.

Wait, what?

Why?

Why were they kissing from so close up?

It's very chaotic.

His nostrils.

Why am I in this man's nose?

The camera angle was from her chest to his chin.

What was happening there?

it was very unflattering angles on his part very unflattering angles

also watching humans kiss at that angle not good for anybody that's not a now i kind of regret ever kissing

is that what's been looking like this whole i i am embarrassed for every kiss i've ever had

now even if they had come off looking great in the show which they don't it wouldn't have mattered because like i said not very many people tune in to see britney and kevin's home videos the first episode of the show debuts at a sad 81 on the Nielsen charts.

And by the last episode, Chaotic has lost almost half its audience and isn't even in the top 100 anymore.

And for somebody like Britney Spears at this moment of her career, that's not great.

Yeah, it's honestly kind of shocking.

I wonder if there was...

Like what just a terrible production marketing.

I think it was probably pre-Kardashian, so it was kind of like the reality, I think, at the time that we were into were more game-showy survival shows, The Survivor and Amazing Race.

If and kayfed on an island we would have tuned in yeah i think like this probably was maybe around maybe there was only the osbournes or maybe the jessica simpson nicola she i can't remember but it wasn't as you know you couldn't get on a regular neck what was she on upn did you say like she wasn't on even e

or or or anything like this paramount plus exclusive streaming yeah i expunged this from both their records okay great expunge due to the mismanagement of the programming.

Yeah, not their fault.

It wasn't just what network it was on.

It was also not a critical darling.

One reviewer called the show an insult to common sense and decency and says it's embarrassing, nauseating, and excruciating.

Other critics say it's a self-indulgent, mindless piece of drivel, the absolute wreckiest of train wreck television.

Brittany and Kevin Chaotic stands out as potentially the worst television show I've ever seen, and I'm guessing could also qualify as the very worst ever put on network television.

Okay.

Well, network television, to call it that is a stretch.

I mean, it's the N in UPN, but yeah.

Well, this is now Kevin's second flop.

He got served.

We've expunged it.

We got served.

So far, he has zero flops.

Yeah, I don't know if you knew this, but Robbie is in charge of the record, so can expunge that way.

For the record, he's been expunged of both flops.

So far, he has a win.

He bagged the girl.

So I want to know where it turns.

Kevin, once again, he is taking the setback in stride.

He sees a future where he's a bigger star than even Brittany herself, and he thinks the moment is right to make that future a reality.

Kevin's married into fame, and he's gotten a taste of media attention as a result.

But it looks like Kayfed doesn't want to be famous just because of who he married.

He wants to launch a career of his own.

He's dreaming of becoming a multi-hyphenate, modeling, acting, designing clothes, and maybe most of all, making making music i would have with the kfed track suit he could have done track suits if he sold shoes it would have been exactly it would have been perfect for me that's what i was talking about yeah literally cute little sneaks how is he gonna make this happen so he starts by trying to revamp his image with a makeover on the cover of details magazine that's right this is the end of an era he is ditching dirt cat okay oh he's clean cat now so let's take a look at some pictures here's a typical kfed fit pre-makeover oh love that oh they're matching though That's cute.

Very.

I know.

Very.

To be fair, this is what everybody looks like.

I would wear that today.

With his bod?

Why not?

I'd fuck with that.

He looks great.

Yeah, not the hat.

I love the hat.

You do?

I don't know.

Bucket hats are back in.

I know, and I'm against it still.

So for the listeners only, Kevin was wearing a wife beater, some baggy jeans, high-rise sneakers, and a Gucci bucket hat.

Yeah, but importantly, Brittany was wearing a white tank top and the same fade of denim.

So they were very

cute.

Tissue hers.

Well, here is Kayfed with his new look on the cover of details.

Oh.

No.

Not even the dog?

No, this is like, it's giving like first season of like queer eye

a really insane JVN blowout.

Yeah, it's giving like also like the haircut is like the same hairstylist that does Ellen with the little wisp at the back.

Like this like lesbian haircut and shirt, this satin polka dot button down.

The dog is giving gay.

I like though, if you had a makeover and someone is like part of this, one of your accessories is dog, that's very funny.

Well, that was actually Brittany's idea because that's their Chihuahua Bitbit.

And she said, bring Bitbit to the photo shoot.

I just want to put this out there.

Bitbit is innocent.

Bitbit had nothing to do with any of this.

Look, this is not Bitbit's fault.

This is his first flop, in my opinion.

Oh.

Because the first time he's not being him, I turn on him.

Oh, this feels too phony.

You be you.

Start to finish, and I'm with you, bro.

I'm here for you.

You don't do you.

You've lost me because you're not you.

You want him to stay dirt cat?

He can evolve.

He can do whatever he wants, but you got to do you, bro.

Oh, you want a middle step.

You want to step between.

No, he's not.

Listen, him totally immediately thinking he's going to be a different guy is not an evolution.

It's it's losing yourself.

You know what?

With the satin shirt and the dog, he's giving magician.

That's what it was.

Cruise shit magician.

And you know what?

What's even more confusing is the fact that like the music that he does put out does not make sense with this new makeover.

Before we get into his music, part of striking out on his own, Kevin also does another side project.

He teams up with Richard Branson on an advocacy campaign.

Okay.

He believes in stuff.

Yes, right?

Doesn't sound so bad.

At least he's using celebrity status to boost a good cause, right?

What do you think this cause is that Kevin's volunteering his time for?

It must be something he's really passionate about, right?

What brings together Kayfed and the virgin guy?

Both passionate about it?

Okay, let me guess.

Public transit.

I'm going to say,

oh, they both probably have chlamydia.

Maybe it's about that.

It could, that's a good one.

Planned parenthood type of thing.

Yeah, yeah,

yeah.

Well, it was to stop the U.S.

government from taking pennies out of circulation.

Oh, that was my next.

Yeah, I almost said pennies.

You're like right on the tip of my tongue.

If there's two people who I associate with pennies, it's Richard Branson and the guy who married Britney Spears.

Both of them had a lot of interaction with pennies.

Yeah, I mean, they just, they could not believe that it costs more money to make a penny than they're actually worth.

And the U.S.

government would try to take them out of circulation?

Not on my watch.

Absolutely not.

But the craziest thing is this work.

The two of them, we still make pennies because of these.

We still make pennies.

It was just a headline the other day.

Yeah.

Kevin is firmly pro-penny.

At a rally in New York to Save the Scent, which also doubles as a publicity event for Richard Branson's cell company.

Kevin rolls up in a truck, blinged out with pennies, wearing an Abraham Lincoln mask.

Okay, this I like.

Let's see that.

Finding out what you like and don't like has been such a roller roller coaster.

No, because he's coming back.

It's him being himself as an A-blink.

I just want you to be you.

I don't want you to be me.

I don't want you to be nobody else.

Well, Robbie, let's take a look at Kevin making his grand entrance.

Let's see.

Well, I can't see him.

Because he's got the Lincoln mask.

But I will say the suit still feels like a cruise ship magician.

Yeah, this suit is so ill-fitting.

And the mask doesn't take away from that either.

The mask is too small.

Oh, okay.

I see.

This is the penny truck he's getting out of.

Yeah, he's getting out of a truck, blinked out with pennies.

The mask is upsetting.

This does look like he's going to murder.

And it's too small.

Like, since one, I feel like masks have to be bigger than your head.

Yeah, you're not supposed to see your ears.

That's what I'm saying.

Second tier of ears behind the first ears.

That said, I can see the beater under the colored shirt.

I can see peaks of Kev.

And we're on the right track back home.

Come on home, Kev.

Come on home.

This is the most like, we're rebuilding you, Kevin.

We're going to make you famous by supporting a charity.

You're like, do you like animals?

No.

Do you like children?

No.

Do you want to stop hunger?

No.

And they got to pennies, and he was like, okay, I'm in.

It feels really embarrassing, actually.

This is my, I was on board until now.

This is where I get off board.

Take that, Robbie.

You get off when he's actually done something that's not a flop.

You know, winning on the wrong side is still flopping, I think.

Well, pennies aside, as all of this is going on, Kevin and Brittany, they keep moving their relationship forward at an incredibly quick pace, and they have a baby in September of 2005.

Boys are so stunning.

They look identical to Britney.

It's unbelievable.

Also, on the career front, Kevin's finally taking those steps to make his musical dreams a reality.

He's throwing his energy into finally recording his first album.

And even before it's released, he's not shy about hyping it up.

Kevin says, it's going to be huge.

I'm doing shit not even Eminem does.

Oh, he's inspired by Eminem.

Yes.

I don't love that.

There's a lot of people doing stuff that Eminem's not doing.

Philharmonic.

Most musicians.

I mean, very few people are doing what.

So that's a weird way to phrase it.

Sure is.

Now, there is just one problem.

Kevin's album doesn't have a big record label attached or any big-time music producers who are involved.

In fact, he basically seems to be working on the album alone in his and Britney's home studio.

So he's gone from sharing a shower with five guys to sharing a studio with one of the biggest pop stars in the world.

So

all of the resources in Britney's musical team,

and none of them were willing to take on her pet project, her dorky husband.

They say, who?

Like it's very suspicious that

he's not getting more help and it makes it seem like he must be

in all of the auditions.

So in January of 2006, he releases a song called Popo Zao.

Now, you might be wondering, what does Popo Zao mean?

He sings, in Portuguese, it means bring your ass.

So let's take a look at a clip of Kfed bringing some cameras into his studio to share Popo Zao with the world.

Oh, yeah, baby.

The single is Popo Zao.

This is a

Brazilian ass shaker right here.

Can I say that?

Right on.

So what he's doing is, if you're, so he's playing it, he's sitting in his studio.

He's playing the song and he is just riding the volume button as if he's really involved in the production.

He just keeps turning the volume up and down, little tiny bits to be like, look, I'm working really hard.

And then acting like he's surprised at how good it is.

He keeps going like, I think he was like playing with his fingers.

Yeah, he would do a little finger piano and then be like, wow, wow, that part.

Wow, that really hit me that time.

I want to see a kitty with a little bit of titty was my favorite part from that.

It was so bad, actually.

And I was, because I make up songs with Gab all the time.

Bring that ass over.

He He said, bring that ass over.

I do make up songs.

So I was down with the lyric part of this one, which is interesting to me.

But the song was so bad.

And you better believe it's not anything Eminem is doing.

People hate Popo Zao so much.

Billboard says it's a monument to mediocrity.

So the reaction was also so bad that it also gets removed from the upcoming album.

Wow, the opposite of a single.

These are the, these are like when penguins push one of them off into the water to test to see if there's sharks out there.

This is these are sacrificial singles.

They are.

And meanwhile, things are starting to get rocky in Kevin's relationship with Brittany.

In September 2006, they have their second child.

And this is the time when Brittany's really kind of like starting to realize that maybe Kevin is more invested in fame and money than their family.

Okay, now we're really getting into it.

I'm excited.

Yes.

So Kevin either doesn't know about or doesn't care about the trouble that's brewing for him at home.

He is out promoting his album, which probably proves Britney's point.

But despite the failure of his first two tracks, Kevin still believes he has a hit on his hands.

After all the hype leading up to it, Kevin finally releases his album, Playing With Fire, in October of 2006.

It is,

and I mean this, a commercial and critical flop.

It debuts with abysmal sales of just 6,000 records.

And this is the time when we were buying.

This is the time when we were buying.

And he's attached to the largest and most famous person in music in the world at this time.

I mean, just keep dancing.

Keep dancing.

And I think when he talks, he makes everything work.

No, like Britney Spears didn't come across the club to hear the words he had to say.

Could he have done Dancing with the Stars?

Did they have Dancing with the Stars back then?

He should have started it because he would have killed on that yeah yeah well it becomes the worst reviewed album of all time okay good so not good for him here's some readings of some of the lines of the reviews from playing with fire first the worst thing about playing with fire is that it's too stale and inept to inspire laughter it can only elicit wary groans

And oh, so tiny sliver of myself kind of wanted Playing with Fire to be less aggressively shitty than it was.

If only so the restless, rapacious media would ease off this tattered target of its ire.

Unfortunately, this disc is just as disposable and dumb as you'd expect.

Yeah, deserves it.

That's embarrassing.

Yikes.

Yeah, I mean,

his rapping style was described as constipated.

That is insane.

Yeah.

So, okay, so the album might have flopped in terms of sales and reviews, but we all know that the real fans are on the road, right?

Oh, no.

Is Brittany going to these?

Is she now backed up, backup dancing for him?

Because she's a really wonderful dancer also.

No, at this point, Brittany is suspect of him not loving her and just wanting her money and fame for himself.

Really?

Yes.

So Kevin is going on tour now.

He's going to take his music directly to the fans.

But he leaves these two babies at home?

Yes.

this is why Britney's

passed.

They weren't all on a tour boss like Gwen Stefane.

No.

And for what?

When the babies are young, it's easy to travel with them.

They're not in school.

You put them on the bus.

Everybody's seen this.

I don't know that he had a bus.

I think this doesn't sound like a tour that was going to have a lot of dates.

No, no.

And in New York, he sold one-fifth of the tickets available.

Look, we've all been there.

Yeah, of course.

I'm not going to cast stones, but but

you can't afford to bring your baby with you when you're selling a fifth of the venue.

For the record, I'm selling out.

Okay, KFN, let the record be shown.

But the thing about this New York City performance that was like, like really mind-blowing and sad is that Kevin delayed the performance for three hours, hoping that more people would show up.

Oh, I hate that so much.

But they never did.

And someone needs to explain to him that usually the musician keeps the crowd waiting, not the other way around.

around.

Oh, every comedy show I've ever been to, somebody has been like, we're going to hold in case a few more people show up and then no one else shows up.

Oh, it's brutal.

A few minutes, fine.

You hold 10, 15 by hour three.

Three hours.

It's crazy.

Are you deranged?

Who sees an event happening?

It's 10 p.m.

Oh, the event started at 8.

Maybe I'll go now.

It was really bad traffic in New York.

That's true.

Now, we only played for about a half an hour, and one person in attendance said that he seemed really confused about how to act on stage, just saying things like, hey, 30 times in a row, or New York, thank you for coming.

Buy my CD.

But don't worry, Kevin's not giving up.

If anything, he is determined.

So he is headed to Chicago to play House of Blues.

Great venue.

Surely the windy city will give Kayfed a warmer welcome.

And it is a very warm city, typically, identity audience reception-wise.

So it's on you.

Yep.

But just before the show, TMZ notices that Kevin has drastically cut the price of tickets for the show on Ticketmaster.

Good.

Can you guess how much they were going for?

Maybe they were going for deranged over $100, and hopefully they were going by $13 by the end of it.

What was it?

It's a good guess.

Zero Zip Zilch.

He was giving them away for free.

Oh, it was paper in the room.

Yes.

And

Kevin literally cannot give away tickets to his concerts.

It would have been more embarrassing if he tried to pay people to come and show up, but they still said, a concert from Popo Zao Guy, thanks, but no thanks.

And very, very few people showed up um in chicago and the very few people who were showing up to kevin's events were mostly there to hate watch right the hate watch money is still good money but i it's apparently still making money no no no not enough but yeah people were heckling and booing him um so it will not surprise you that after this even more of the tour uh dates they got canceled and the album flopped the tour flopped uh maybe even harder misgiving j-lo look i'm not good at music either if I made a CD, it would be bad.

I can understand that.

I don't feel like I need to rag on him for that.

But the booking a huge venue when you don't have fans is very embarrassing.

That part's, you self-produced the album, no one's liked it, and you've booked a tour, like your first ever live shows.

He didn't even self-produce.

He wife-produced.

You think he produced it?

Well, I mean, like, no one, he couldn't get in.

No, no industry is behind you.

You got your wife's money, you put this out, but like, and the reviews are bad, and you're like, but I booked huge venues for myself for my debut.

Like, you should at least find out if people like it first.

That part's really weird to me.

He was banking on those Will and Grace fans.

Again, I love that backup dancer three seasons ago.

We should go see him live.

Yeah, but I mean, yes, to recap, he's been in a dance movie that everyone hated, a reality show that nobody watched, produced two singles on an album that everybody hated, and then went on tour that nobody showed up for.

Yeah, that's pretty sad.

So, I mean, career trouble's happening, but personal trouble is just around the corner.

So, November 7th, 2006, Brittany decides she's had enough of KFED and she files for divorce after just slightly over two years of being married.

Okay.

On The View, they literally drop confetti to celebrate the news.

That's how anti-Kevin people are.

So let's take a look at a clip.

It's the biggest news in the country, ladies and gentlemen.

Britney Spears is leaving Casey!

Confetti!

I love confetti so much.

This is a beautiful moment.

I mean, the view continues to be just so mature and just a great source of

professional takes.

That said, it is exciting that another man who was only there to exploit her was removed from her.

Yeah, so what I do like about this is that it is not Britney bashing.

No, no, no, no.

We think you're too good for him.

And there is a support.

There's a supportiveness to this trash talk that I find okay.

Yeah.

Well, now that he and Brittany are no longer together, Kevin's no longer got the same access to fame and wealth that would have helped him build that career he so desperately wanted.

But that doesn't stop him from doing anything he can to stay in the limelight, basically becoming one of those people who's mostly famous just for the sake of being famous.

He's not famous just for being famous.

He's famous because he was with Britney Spears.

He needs to write that record because famous for famous is something I can respect.

I'll put respect on the Kardashian's name where I need to.

They've built a tremendous business.

He did not.

He's trying to do that step where he turns Mr.

Britney Spears into famous.

Thank you.

Thank you.

He does do a Super Bowl ad for nationwide insurance in 2007, in which he plays a fast food worker who daydreams.

How are you at Nationwide Insurance thinking the the thing that will sell people on our insurance is this guy who just got dumped by Britney Spears?

Like, what part of that?

Well, he ran off with her kids and a lot of her money.

And maybe this company helped us.

Oh, okay.

So it's like you want to protect your family from their mother.

Yeah.

Nationwide is on your side.

Well, despite no longer being married to an incredibly rich pop icon, Kevin is still spending a ton on partying.

In just a few months between 2007 and 2008, he drops almost $50,000 on shopping and eating out in Las Vegas.

Wow, he went out to dinner twice.

Sorry, it's a very expensive city.

One time he spends $365 on a meal at a strip club and leaves a $2,000 tip.

So at least he's for the workers.

He is.

Okay, that's actually kind of charming.

I don't hate that as much.

Look, if you're going to be a playboy throwing around money, like buying a Ferrari is stupid, but over-tipping, that's the whole fun of being rich.

Would be waiting?

$365.

Oh, beautiful.

See, it comes back from his humble roots.

It's always the poor who are the most generous.

That said, he did steal from Brittany.

Right, he's tipping with someone else's money.

She tipped well, in my opinion.

He's tipping other people's money, must be nice.

Right, yeah.

Brittany's tipped well at the strip club.

That part is true.

But of all the things to waste money on, tipping tipped workers.

This is great.

Good for you.

Yeah.

Over the next few years, Kevin starts to go quiet.

He does a few episodes of TV shows here and there, and in 2010, he is a contestant on a celebrity reality weight loss TV show.

Why?

I guess he needs to be able to get some weight pounds.

Does he have to lose weight?

He was very skinny in all those photos.

I don't know what maybe it was baby weight.

In these years, Kevin's no longer trying to make his own music.

He's happy to be a DJ showing up and spinning tracks at random spots like a Vegas strip club that pays him 10 grand per performance.

Wow.

But in 2016, he gets the itch.

He starts wanting to make his own music again.

And so he teams up with a rapper, Critchy Critch, for a new song called Hollywood.

Kevin's trying one last time to make those music dreams come true.

Now, the music video for the song features Andy Dick, a Leonardo DiCaprio lookalike, and references to that whole Kanye and Amber Rose controversy.

Wait, it was that long ago?

Yeah.

Now, you might be wondering if Kevin has gotten any better at rapping in the 10 years since his album dropped.

I was not wondering that.

Well, let's take a look, shall we?

I thank you.

Here's one one hint, though.

The whole vibe of the video is gross and sexist.

I thought that was Bill Maher.

That's not my thing.

It's so bad.

It's so bad.

Yeah, this track, of course, goes nowhere.

With lyrics like that, it's not exactly the kind of bop they're going to be playing over the sound system at every grocery store in America.

I mean, you can't say that sexist has not worked in club bangers, but in this

it's not enough to get you over the hump of everyone doesn't like you.

Yeah.

Now, KFED has once again, he's tried to break in the music biz and has once again totally flopped.

I guess it just goes to show that nepotism has its limits.

Now, let's do a little, where are they now?

Kevin got married again, and he and his new wife live with their two kids and his kids from his marriage with brittany in hawaii

so kayfed has managed to land on his feet since 2016 kayfed has basically had the good sense to keep a low profile staying out of the news is a good thing to compliment the fact that we don't hear about him very often is to his credit Now, it's not totally off the grid because he did give an interview about Britney in 2022 that reminded everyone of two things.

One, that he exists and also why they didn't like him in the first place.

Because in the interview, he says that Britney's controversial conservatorship saved her and that their kids don't want anything to do with her.

Now, keep in mind, this is at the peak of the Free Britney campaign when people are calling for her to be let out of that conservatorship.

Yeah.

And are also reappraising Britney's career and the way that she was treated by the press and by her exes and by her family.

So not good timing, Kev.

Yeah,

I don't fall positive on Kevin and all of this.

Robbie, was that just him being himself though?

No, this is him when he lost himself and decided to live off the mother of his kids.

I don't know

I

and decided to purposely suppress her

rather than getting her if she did need help i.e.

some protections which could be the only help at the time rather than like no you're gonna deal with it you're gonna even put out more we're gonna make you a robot so you can produce this I mean it's just of course what at the height of the Free Britney movement, he doesn't want her to be free because his gravy train either diminishes or ends.

Since that interview, Kev's gone back into hiding, at least keeping a low profile.

But if we know old Dirt Cat, you know, it's only a matter of time before he tries to claw his way back into the spotlight.

Again, I think being bad at music, very relatable.

Sure.

It's just that you keep putting stuff out.

Just if you just make music because you liked music, it would be totally, I would like that part of the story so much more.

It's that he keeps releasing it as if it's a huge deal.

That part is so inexplicable to me.

That's terrible.

Absolutely.

So here on the big flop, we try to be positive people and end on a high.

So are there any silver linings that you can think of that came about from Kevin Federline, K-Fed, Dirt Cat?

For me,

I learned a new Portuguese word.

Yep.

So that was a start.

I learned Papa Zao.

Definitely saying that right.

There's no silver lining.

It's tragic.

I feel like you could probably come up with one.

No, we have to end on a low note.

He's complicit and

he is the most pathetic of people.

He exploited the mother of his children.

Well, here's your moment.

Here's the big assessment.

So now that you both know about KFED, who had fame, money, access to the biggest celebrities in the world, but still could not get any kind of career off the ground himself, would you consider him a baby flop, a big flop, or a mega flop?

Just a loser.

He's not even worth mentioning.

I don't even think he did anything worthy of floppy.

I don't even think anything had enough of a

stakes to be a flop.

I don't even think he got any project to that level.

They never even went anywhere to flop.

They started flop.

Pretty embarrassing that you could not make even a workable, a single, one workable single with Britney Spears as a full-time helper that's that is embarrassing I feel like me and Britney Spears in 2006 could have produced a hit and it would have been mostly me letting Britney Spears do the works but I think because he tips well I'm gonna say it is just a just a big flop Well, on that note, thank you so much to our guests and fellow Britney fans, Robbie Hoffman and Alex Falcone, for joining us here on the big flop.

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