Will Trump The Peace President Solve Ukraine/Russia?

Hey everybody, it's the Charlie Kirk Show. Jensen Franklin joins us live here from our Faith Forward

event in Gainesville, Georgia. We are here on the ground training pastors and equipping them

to better articulate the truth and the gospel from their pulpits. We continue also talking about the

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Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. It's a topic that has really been weighing on me, which is the Mohammedism that is growing in the West.
And I don't think Christians and conservatives, I don't think that we are really prepared to confront the rise of cultural Islam, which is the rise of political Islam. Way too much attention, by the way, goes towards the radical Islamist groups.
Not in a bad way. I mean, obviously the ones that are beheading Christians and the Houthis and it's terrible.
I mean, no one supports that. Well, I'm talking about something completely different.
I'm talking about cultural Islam. I'm talking about the slow, subtle suicide of the West.
We're going to ask Andrew Sedra, who has been speaking out against Islam in Australia, is Islam compatible with Western civilization? It's a very serious question, and I'm not attacking individual Muslims. Of course, we all know individual Muslims that are good people and they act fine.
Is the ideology compatible? Is it oil and vinegar? Are they going to be able to fit together? It's a very simple question. I can say right now leftism and Western civilization are incompatible.
They're incompatible. Leftism and the West cannot coexist.
One has to win, either the left or the West. It is very simple.
It is a binary. Islam is not the faith of Western civilization.
There is a reason that America was born from a Christian heritage. It never could have been born from Muslim heritage.
We're going to explore that in a second. Blake did a great job summarizing this.
Thank you, Blake, for going through the Russian stuff. It's actually the call has not yet been translated.
Here's what we know. We know first that Putin made Trump wait, of course, obviously.
I'm a big, strong man because I'm black. OK, sit down.
I mean, whatever. Typical diplomatic nonsense.
Honestly, good for president. This is very important, though.
This shows the magnanimity of President Trump. You know, he gets shown on television as being impulsive and having no patience.
And President Trump could have canceled the phone call. Because obviously, President Trump is the statesman here.
But President Trump understood what Putin was doing. It's an old kind of diplomatic Russian tactic.
By the way, he did the same thing to Tucker Carlson. He made Tucker wait two and a half hours for him when he went to go interview him in the Kremlin.
Anyway, President Trump did the right thing and probably laughed about it. He said, oh, you know, Vlad thinks he's a real tough guy now.
He took the high road. He deserves credit for it.
Well done, President Trump. The call lasted more than 90 minutes, so about 45 minutes of discussion if you count for the translation back and forth.
Dan Scavino at the White House claimed the call was going well. It was ongoing.
A Russian government official said, quote, under the leadership of President Putin and President Trump, the world has become a much safer place today. That's a promising sign, hopefully.
While Trump and Putin were on the call, President Zelensky's chief of staff, my goodness, I'm telling you, if there's one reason why this war won't end, it's Zelensky. I'm telling you, this guy is getting in the way of it.
I'm losing patience. Anyway, he said, while Trump and Putin were on the call, President Zelensky's chief of staff stated that Ukraine's supposed red lines for peace, saying that Ukraine won't accept a neutral status, won't reduce their armed forces, and won't recognize any Russian gains in Ukraine.
Well, okay, but if a good peace deal is on the table, Ukraine rejects it, and then the consequences are on them. Yeah, for the record, I lost patience with Zelensky a long time ago, but then I try to renew my patience, of which that reserve gets depleted every time I look at him again.

So the situation is ongoing between Zelensky and Putin and Trump. Understand, President Trump is

here as the magnanimous statesman. If he gets this done, it is Nobel Peace Prize territory,

and I'm not just saying this hyperbolically. If he gets this deal done, and of course Crimea should be on the table.
Absolutely Crimea should be on the table. It was given symbolically by Nikita Khrushchev.
I believe that's correct. In what, 1954? As a gesture.
Basically saying, hey, you know, this is Russian-Ukrainian harmony. We're going to live together.
It's symbolic.

It was a gesture of 300 years of Russian-Ukraine unity.

What's the best example of this? The best example would be if we wrongly gave Mexico-Texas something as silly as that. Obviously, Texas is part of America.
It has Texans.

Blake says it would be even dumber than that. Okay.
Give me an example. Like what? Us giving them Ohio or us giving like Canada, Ohio or something.
Maybe that would, that would be dumb. As dumb.
I don't know what Blake means if that's dumber. Anyway, point being is that the, it would be like Michigan giving up the Upper Peninsula to Wisconsin.
Okay, got it. That would be pretty dumb.
Now, did Biden ever try to de-escalate this conflict? Did Biden ever try to calm down the tensions and the pressures and the angst and the anxiety? Was there ever an attempt for mass de-escalation? No, we saw the opposite. We saw a pressure campaign, in fact, a creation of a pressure cooker of armaments and the slow motion sleepwalking, the barreling towards a potential hot nuclear war.
And if I may just speak candidly, I actually feel better tonight about the future of the world, that our countries are talking, that our countries have actually some sort of channel. We have learned that there was no diplomatic back channel between Russia and the United States.
Biden cut everything off, which is just so unbelievably stupid. It's so immature.
It's so imprudent for anybody to do that under any circumstance. You should always have some way where you can even communicate with the enemy.
And then we forced Russia into the Chinese Communist Party orbit. Speaking of orbit, by the way, those astronauts are coming back.
Thank you, Elon Musk. We are going to talk about that.
It's an amazing story. It's a monumental story.
The Chinese Communist Party is the threat. Our entire foreign policy should be primarily focused on curtailing the rise of the Chinese Communist Party, the ascension of the Maoists, and that's what they are.
And insofar that you have this triangulation, the new axis being created, Iran with the Persians, the Chinese Communist Party, and potentially the Russians, you got a big problem. Why would we hand over an element of the axis? And then you got the cartels, which then operate as proxies of all of them to be able to then infect and poison our youth and invade our nation.

Remember, Russia was not a primary ally of the United States going into World War II.

It was only because of Hitler's megalomania that eventually Russia and Germany got at odds with one another.

And eventually we kind of found ourselves allied with the Soviet Union, which, by the way, was the right thing for us to do. Russia lost millions of people.
We do not have to be in perpetual conflict with Russia. You should write that down and commit it to memory.
I don't like Russia. I don't think highly of their government.
They're not a free society.

It's run by a bunch of gangsters and thugs.

It's like if the mafia took over a country.

That's basically it.

They do have some rich culture that is worthy of appreciation and recognition.

Tolstoy is a real thing.

Dostoevsky, real thing.

Tchatchevsky, real thing.

War and peace, real thing.

That's real stuff. Real beauty.
real art, worthy of recognition, worthy of appreciation, worthy of study. So both those things can be simultaneously true.
But Washington only exists in the binaries. Washington only exists in enemy friend, good, evil.
Sometimes it's far more nuanced than that. And Russia has always operated in the gray.
By the way, they are a very gray country, just to be honest. They're aesthetically gray.
Their mood is gray. They're always depressed.
They're drinking themselves to sleep. They're a very gray people.
And kind of more metaphorically and then more literally, they seem to be gray in foreign policy. Sometimes they're a friend.

Sometimes they need to be kind of brushed off a little bit.

And Andrew says in the chat, they are Europeans after all.

I'd love to have Blake's take on that.

It's a little bit more complicated. They have a lot of Euro influences, but they're kind of their own thing.

They're definitely Eastern Europe, but it's their own identity.

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We are here live at Free Chapel in Gainesville, Georgia. Pastor Jensen Franklin is with us.
Thank you for collaborating with us here and for hosting us to be able to reach pastors and doing this together. You're going to be speaking here tonight.
What is the message you're going to be delivering to these pastors? Well, I'm going back and forth on two different messages, but basically I feel like that this is an opportunity of crisis almost, a crisis of opportunity that I feel like when we saw a change in the administration and direction of our nation, that we're not to kick back and sit back and relax now, especially the body of Christ. If we don't recognize, you know, where we're at and what the opportunities are that are incredible, really.
I mean, it's not it's not a negative thing. It's a powerful thing.
But I feel like that some people just feel like, well, the election is over. Just unplug, kick back, relax.
And what you don't understand is you kind of need to be like Joshua when he was winning and he said, son, stand still. We won't get this moment back.

Not every moment is an equal opportunity moment. And if you don't seize it, you could miss a generation.
And that's why I love what you do. I remember the first time I saw you, you were on a college campus, and I said, who in the world is this guy? Who's bold enough to do that? Who's crazy enough to do that who who can answer off the cuff the crazy things that people throw at you and your answers were like lightning you know uh i think it was uh mark twain said the difference between a word and the right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.
And you seem to have lightning when you address a social issue because it's Bible. You go back to the basics.
It's all biblical. That's it.
So I'm honored and we're honored to have you here. Thank you.
And I really appreciate that. And I will receive the compliment that I'm probably crazy enough to go to these campuses.

So I will receive that.

And we had a great, you know, our biggest campus event ever was in Athens, Georgia.

No way.

It's 5,000 students.

So not far from here, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah.

30 minutes down the road.

Amazing.

And so.

40.

So, yeah, it's just remarkable what you've built here.

And I agree that there is this moment of choosing for the American church right now. And pastors in particular, being tasked with their congregations, have to decide how they are going to equip their body and their flock.
And some of the pastors that are coming here to this conference are currently not speaking out on the issues. Yeah.
And that's why this conference is so important. They're good men, good people, good leaders.
Sometimes you need encouragement from others. I even thought about, you know, why did I ever get involved in this side of things?

And I was thinking about this the other day, actually, and I thought one after another of leaders in the generation of my generation, the faith leaders stood up. They didn't they it didn't matter what denomination they were in.
It didn't matter whether they were agreeing on every doctrine or every side thing, their flavor or whatever. There were the basic roots of Jesus was born of a virgin.
He's God in skin. He carried the cross, my sins, your sins, died and rose again.
And his word is truth. And let's teach this word and stand on it.
And that that needs to be that there needs to be that sometimes in a pastor's life, you need a reaffirming, you need you need a recommissioning of what are what am I here to do? I'm salt, I'm light. And so that's what I'm praying happens here.
And I mean that sincerely. I've been praying about this meeting.
I don't think it's a small thing when you can bring together sixteen hundred pastors from different backgrounds. And, you know, it's always this thing of you stay in your camp and I'll stay in my camp and you're you're this denomination or you're this and we believe this about that.
And when you don't, we got to at some point the people being beheaded in Syria, they don't care if you're Baptist or if you're Calvinist. They don't care if they're pre-trib or post-trib.
All they know is their brothers in Christ are standing there holding hands about to be beheaded. And it's because they believe in Jesus Christ, the only way, the truth and the life.
So why can we not get together and be equipped from some of the greatest speakers in the world that, that, you know, and, and I don't, I don't necessarily agree with every, I've been to these. You've, you've been gracious to ask me to come.'ve been to these things um I don't agree with everything that's said hold that thought but I get fed I love that private student loan debt in America totals over 300 billion dollars getting out of debt is the right move for you and your family why we fight rehelps refinance distressed or defaulted private student loans that others will not touch.
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Pastor, I'm going to read here some breaking news, and I want to kind of tie it into some biblical principles because blessed are the peacemakers, as it says. President Trump had a call with Vladimir Putin.
I'm going to read the entire press release here live on air. It is breaking news.
It seems like it's a whole bunch of nothing, but it's actually a very deep and promising development. Today, President Trump and President Putin spoke about the need for peace and a ceasefire in the Ukraine war.
Both leaders agreed this conflict needs to end with a lasting peace. They also stressed the need for improved bilateral relations between the United States and Russia.
Let me pause. There were no bilateral relations when Joe Biden was president.
We were not even talking. Let me continue.
The blood and treasure that both Russia and Ukraine have been spending in this war would be better spent on the needs of their people. Let me pause.
Joe Biden ever refused. He refused to ever count the Russian part of the war as part of a casualty, meaning it was only the Ukrainian side.
Both sides are human beings dying in this conflict. Both sides have families and both sides are needlessly going to war.
This conflict never should have started, the White House writes, and should have been ended long ago with sincere and good faith peace efforts. The leaders agreed that the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, which of course is right near Crimea.
Crimea is in the Black Sea. A full ceasefire and permanent peace.
These negotiations will begin immediately in the Middle East. So essentially, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, wherever.
The leaders spoke broadly more about the Middle East as a region of potential cooperation to prevent future conflicts. They further discussed the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons and will engage with others to ensure the broadest possible application.
The two leaders shared the view that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel. That's an amazing development.
The two leaders agreed that a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has a huge upside. This includes enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved.
So we're still processing all this a lot here. Blessed are the peacemakers, Pastor.
Well, there's no doubt about it. And that's what the president did his first administration.
No wars. Kept us out of wars.
Yes. Kept peace in the earth.
America was so strong in leadership and militarily that our enemies were afraid. And, you know, that's just a history course.
If you just go back in history, that strength can prevent wars from even happening. And the tragedy that we've seen with Russia and Ukraine, I thank God that the president is trying to be a broker of peace.
And like you said, that is one of the beatitudes is blessed are the peacemakers. And if anybody ever was a peacemaker, it seems like he is gifted to do it because he truly is standing between the two.
He won't take, that kind of makes people mad. But I know Russia is an aggressor.
We all know Russia is brutal and evil, But they're also, like you said, they're people, they're human beings. And there's some wonderful people there.
And so we need to. There's also some wonderful Christians that have been repressed there.
There's no question. No question.
And the same in the Ukraine. And I think everybody wants peace.
And I'm just praying that that he will that he will be able to make it happen because it's critical. It's critical.
Amen. And so they mention in here Iran not getting a nuclear weapon.
So President Trump solving the Ukrainian Russia deal, I think, will be worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize. If he can solve the Israel Gaza Hamas problem, that'll be I have I have never in all my years, and I've followed this closely because I'm very passionate about America's relationship with Israel, and I have never, breaking news right here, I have never heard the president of Russia say that Iran should be stopped from having nuclear weapons.
I think that's breaking news. The fact that he's smart enough to broker where he is in one major war and then grab one of those players that has massive influence over Iran and say, you're going to work with me to bring peace to the Middle East is brilliant.
Yes. And it's and it's so beautiful because we know that when America stands with Israel, Genesis 12 and three, I will bless those that bless Israel.
I will curse those that curse Israel. I'm so thankful for the way the president's standing with Israel.
And it's and President Trump is being very smart because you think about it.

Russia wants to have some negotiating power over Iran. And if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, they're going to lose some they're going to lose some of the leverage that they have over Russia is not going to get rid of the nuclear weapons.
Not possible. They have more nuclear weapons than we do.
And so therefore, Trump knows this. He says, OK, one point of agreement we might have.
And it's also very good for Israel. Now, I would not go as far to say that Russia is pro-Israel, but they're not anti-Israel.

Russia has been a very complicated actor with Israel, but they have donated money in the past.

It's been on both sides.

They built a church in Hebron, as you might know, like a Russian Orthodox church.

And I would say neutral is probably the best way.

But it hopefully could invite a broader sentiment that America is here for peace. as you might know, like a Russian Orthodox church.
And I would say neutral is probably the best way,

but it hopefully could invite a broader sentiment that America is here for peace, while also standing by our allies such as Israel, you know, in the region. Let's talk more broadly about Israel.
How should Christians and Americans think about our alliance with the state of Israel? As a Christian, you would have no Bible.

You would have no doctrine. You would have no salvation.
Even John 4, Jesus said, salvation is of the Jews, meaning that without that Jewish connection, we would not have the tribe of Judah that produced the Messiah, Jesus Christ. How can we, Paul, the apostle Paul said, how can the branch say, I don't need the roots anymore? The roots of our Bible, the roots of our faith is the Hebrew faith and the land of Israel and the people of Israel.
We are not just called to love the land of Israel, the holy land, the land of miracles, the land where Jerusalem and Calvary and all of that. But we're called to love the Jewish people and we love the Palestinians.
We love people everywhere, but we also know that there must be sovereignty of their land in Israel. And that's why we stand with them.
Without a doubt. And they were attacked on October 7th.
Every time they're attacked. That moral clarity is critically important.
Every time. Show me one time when Israel started a war.
It's always in a response. Six-day war, Yomph, before war from their founding.
It's always defensive. I was asked to go to the White House and meet with 23 of the families of the hostages a couple weeks ago.
And Charlie, I'll never forget that day, just hearing one story. And they brought posters.
It was the sweetest thing. They would bring their son or their brother or whoever.
And they would hold that up and they would talk. And it was the most moving stories.
We brought two of the families into the church and I, before I preached, I interviewed them and they, it was, it was powerful too. This, you ask, why should we care and why should we connect? The church has to connect with Israel and here's a great opportunity to do that.
We brought them in and they actually, they were flown over straight from Israel and they were on a thing to a press deal to keep. One of the things the lady said, one of the hostages, her husband was being held.
She said, had President Trump not before he was ever even in office, he started talking about the hostages better be let go. The hostages, had he not put that pressure, she said, we don't believe we would have gotten our loved ones.
And by the way, her husband's been released, the lady that was here. But I wanted to say this.
The thing that amazed me is when they came out and they were afraid of how they would be received, they had never been in a Christian church, never been in it. And the crowd stood to their feet and they were cheering and they were and then we prayed.
They were moved to tears and they found out that Christianity is not what they thought it was, that it really we really honor them and love them and care about them. And and that that is the witness we must be to the world.
What do you have to say for Christians that, I don't even want to say are anti-Israel, but either have never been to Israel, they don't quite understand the significance of it. You said it beautifully, there would be no salvation, there'd be no Bible, there'd be no Savior, there'd be none of it without the state of Israel.
What has Israel meant for your life the first first time you went to Israel, tell us the story. Tell us the Jensen Franklin story of going to Israel.
So I had a friend who, uh, who wanted me to go with him. He would go all the time.
And so me and my wife had just started, just been married and just started in ministry our first year. And we went to Israel on his trip, sat on the bus, went to all the sites.
I cannot explain. For me, Charlie, there were, I've done it, I've probably been 30 plus times now taking thousands of people over there.
And every time I go, there's some spot somewhere that we go to that it all hits me again, and it makes it so powerful and so fresh.

Every person, I'm on a rampage about this. One of the things we're doing is we're setting aside large amounts of money, and we're going to start a thing where we have a big youth conference down the road, and we have 12,000 teenagers.
This is not college kids. This is teenagers.
And they come to the conference the last week of June. And I want to connect that conference to Israel because when I see the protest, when I see the craziness on the university, we've got to stand up to that.
And so the answer is that you hit it right on the head. If we can get young people just to go to Israel and let them be there.
It's a game changer. So we're going to start a trip for young people to go to Israel and let them have fun and let them ride jet skis on the Sea of Galilee and let them canoe down the Jordan or whatever.
And float in the Dead Sea. Exactly.
And have a great time, but at the same time, have those moments that change everything and solidify your faith. Instead of going to spring break and getting messed up for the rest of your life, why don't you go to Israel and solidify what you have been taught.
And professors can't change your mind when you go to college. I love it.
Pastor Franklin, thank you for all you do and thank you for hosting us here. It's an honor.
At Free Chapel. Any website or anything you want our audience to be aware of? We're just excited you're here.
Thank you for what you do and we stand with you. Thank you, my friend.
Bless you. Jensen Franklin, everybody.
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Let me think about this. Yeah, it would have been the 19th of January.
And we sent out a tweet basically saying, listen, one of two things will happen with the JFK file release. Option A is that we're going to learn that the government was involved in the assassination of JFK.
Or number two, we're going to learn that the government overclassifies

everything and there's a bunch of people with job justification titles and we shouldn't have classified these documents in the first place. I can almost guarantee you that there will not be documents that show that the government killed JFK.
However, I still believe the government was involved in the assassination of JFK. So we will take a look at that.
Okay. So there is a Harvard pollster.
I'm just doing this live on air. I'm doing this for the first time, as they would say.
There's this guy who's very well respected. His name is JDV.
Is that right? Not to be confused with JD Vance. What is his name? Della Volpe.
Okay. Gen Z's rightward shift.
What Charlie Kirk understands that Democrats don't. Economic anxiety, institutional distrust, and media savvy inside conservatives Gen Z playbook.
I'm reading this for the first time. Governor Gavin Newsom podcast with Charlie Kirk founder reveals an irrefutable truth.
Conservatives are winning the youth messaging war. Though the LA Times called their exchange full on cringe, Kirk's journey from card table and a debate me sign to political influence offers critical insights into Gen Z's rightward shift.
Despite growing backlash to Trump's economic policies and blah, blah, blah, blah,

there's a lot to learn.

Trump claimed his organization

achieved a 13-point youth voting swing

in just four years,

while this exact number made,

it's not dubious, he's a dubious,

this guy's totally wrong,

it's proven, actually.

Republicans have undeniably gained ground

with younger voters

by building campus infrastructure strategy

Democrats have failed to counter.

Throughout his conversation,

Kirk relied on, arguments relied on significant exaggerations. What am I reading here, guys? Okay.
I don't think he's saying I'm right. He's insulting me half the time here.
Okay. Okay.
Kirk and his allies have masterfully manufactured culture war issues. Okay.
I don't, we didn't manufacture anything. Okay.
Quote, today's conservatives have flipped the script entirely. They now present themselves as the anti-establishment force.
Well, we're not presenting ourselves. We are.
Again, I don't like the way this is written. Fighting against what they characterize as corrupt.
Meanwhile, Democrats have become defenders of institutional expertise, supporting public health authorities, election officials, intelligence agencies, and academic consensus. That is absolutely true.

The contemporary media ecosystem advantages those willing to engage in long-form unscripted conversations without concern for policy precision. Prioritize emotional resonance over factual accuracy.
Okay, whatever. All right, we're done reading this guy's piece.
The point being is that they are acknowledging that we have made a significant impact on moving the younger generation to the right. The battle for Gen Z isn't just about winning the next election.
It's about shaping America's political future for decades to come. Kirk's influence demonstrates that the party that best addresses young Americans' anxieties about their economic and social prospects could well secure a generational advantage.
The data is clear. Younger voters respond to authenticity, economic opportunity, and genuine engagement with their concerns.
They're not looking for celebrity endorsements or rehearsed talking points. They want leaders who understand their lived reality of precarious finances, housing insecurity, and diminished expectations.
That, my friend, is exactly right. And despite all the condescension, he's a liberal talking about things in the article, he is acknowledging that we understand exactly how to communicate to this generation.
It's true. And by the way, visiting these campuses, I've become pretty, I know how to talk to the next generation pretty well.
And there is an authenticity to all this. And we did what worked and the Democrats don't have a messaging answer.
And let me tell you, if the Democrats were to do this on campus, they would get completely roasted. Conservatives would come up to guys like whatever, Destiny or Sam Seder, and they would make them look like fools like Sam Seder was that random YouTube guy made Sam Cedar look like a buffoon.

And this is a Harvard pollster saying thanks so much for listening everybody email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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