Is It Time for Democrats to "Play Dead?"

Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Saturate USA Scott Baller joins the show about spreading the gospel all across the country. We also have an incredible conversation about my campus tour and what I'm learning, what I'm seeing.
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We had an amazing turnout, a record turnout, actually. I have been at the University of Florida multiple times.
In fact, Ryan could probably go back into the archives. I, back in 2019, visited the University of Florida, and we were getting screamed at, and we had protesters.
It was not an easy campus visit. I mean, it was typical at the time, a lot of opposition, a lot of activist spark on the left.
Andrew went to the University of Florida with me. I actually went with Donald Trump Jr.
two or three weeks previous to that, and there were protests everywhere. Well, we returned to the University of Florida, and we were met with over 2,000 friendly supporters, 2,000 students that were in support of us.
In fact, it was so overwhelming at the end, there almost was a creation of a tunnel where I had to walk through to be able to exit people asking for selfies and for signatures. It was very similar to like a college football team entering a stadium.
There were a couple liberals, one interaction in particular that will probably go viral of a young man who was not dumb. He was very passionate, well read.
And I asked him, I said, are you guys willing to move on from this idea that men can compete in women's sports? I said, it's not popular. Can we just end the chapter on this? And he said, absolutely not.
He said that trans men should be able to compete and trans women should be able to compete in women's sports. He was so married to it.
And for any of you that think the Democrats are going to adjust from the grassroots, it's not going to happen. Now, there might be a candidate that comes in and declares war on the base of the Democrat party, but the base of the Democrat party is more on board for this nonsense than ever before.
The base of the Democrat party thinks that there's nothing wrong with men stealing medals and awards from women. They have made a deal with the trans zealots of the base of their party, and they are married to it.
But more broadly, the biggest takeaway is how the Democrat base has never had to deal with losing a culture war battle. They can't psychologically accept it.
They've never had to do this in their existence.

They are outnumbered now on campus.

No, not necessarily outnumbered. I think if you took a poll on campus, these campuses are still probably five to ten points to the left.
But there's a passivity to the Democrat activism on campus. There is none.
And there is energy and there is vitality behind any one of us that are Trump supporting conservatives. Everything they can remember as far as being Democrats and leftists has always been a one way ratchet.
There were professors. It's very interesting.
I'm getting more and more teachers and professors that are coming up and asking me questions,

which of course I'm well.

This is not just a student prove me wrong.

Anybody.

There was a PhD professor, professor of history. And Oh, what are those moments? I wish that Blake would have been there.
Oh, I wish Blake would have been there. This guy was a PhD of the interwar period between world war one and world war two.
And look, I know a little bit about that. I know in the general population a fair amount, but a little bit compared to this guy was, he was like, well, Charlie, don't you see the similarities between the rise of Hitler and the rise of Donald Trump? I teach this professionally.
I'm a PhD. And I think that everyone needs to know that the rise of Hitler and Donald Trump are very similar.
It's just, it's such a sloppy, shallow analysis. It's, it's total garbage.
It's complete garbage. And this was his contention in front of the entire audience, him being the PhD.
And Blake just made a great point in the chat, which is exactly right. I told them, I said, can you please get another reference point other than Nazi Germany? So Blake and I are on the same page.
I said, can you read about any other country at any other time? There's a lot of other things that happened in history other than the evils of the 1930s and the 1940s. And he's just so focused on this saying, nope, most important thing ever.
Donald Trump's rise is very similar to the rise of the rise of Hitler. What is so important, everybody, is that we are living through a potential generational realignment that could become permanent.
James Carville wrote a piece. If you guys can pull up this piece, I think it's very important.
James Carville wrote a piece giving his recommendations for the Democrat Party. James Carville said, listen, we as Democrats don't have a leader.
We don't have the energy on the ground. He suggested and recommended that Democrats roll over and play dead.
That was James Carville's recommendation. Roll over and play dead.
And that is a very dangerous and unusual political strategy. He said, quote, we need a strategic political retreat, a strategic political retreat.
And I can tell you in modern digital political warfare, I don't think that's going to work for them. Again, I could be wrong because every day we are winning over new converts.
Every day we are winning over new young fans. And there is no sizable, well-funded opposition.
And it really makes you wonder that once you start, once you stop the funding at USAID, all of a sudden these campuses simmer down a little bit. Now I know I might be going a little too far in that direction, but it really makes you think how much of a racket of a money flow was USAID towards the pressure campaign of the left.
James Carville is basically saying this, stop, stop it all. Wait and hope Trump screws up.
But so far Trump strategy has been popular. And I think we're in a brave new era.
I think we're in a completely new chapter. The digital online chapter where news is moving with such high velocity.
We are reaching new demographics and new audiences. James Carville says, quote, the best thing Democrats can do at this moment, roll over and play dead.
Allow the Republicans to crumble beneath their own weight and make the American people miss us. Only until the Trump administration has spiraled into the low 40s or 30s in public approval should we make like a pack of hyenas and go for the juggler.
Until then, I'm calling for a strategic political retreat. It's very, very risky, Mr.
Carville, because what if we're actually increasing our ranks? And by the way, it's not just funding USAID. It's cuts to NIH, NSF, and the ban on DEI at colleges.
Do you guys know when you get an NIH grant, let me take the University of Pennsylvania, for example. The University of Pennsylvania will do a lot of NIH research, and they'll apply for these grants.
Do you know that they are able to mark up on top of the grant 10, 25, 40% for overhead? Donald Trump signed an executive order capping what is called a supplementation. It's a supplementation adage to any NIH grant to only be 10%.
If that ends up being held up in court, which of course it should be, the University of Pennsylvania will lose $270 million a year. Let me say that again.
The University of Pennsylvania will lose $270 million a year if they only get 10% for supplementation. That's just one school.
That is a singular school, everybody. $270 million a year.
These universities are now sending out panicked emails. We got an internal email from an Ivy League school notifying everyone that an all conference at their conference are brown bag lunches now.
No more free taxpayer lunches, literally. James Carville says for the Democrats, stay put, don't do anything, rollover, play dead.
While we at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action are embarking on the most aggressive evangelism campaign, for lack of a better term, conversion campaign, persuasion campaign, and it's working. And obviously, I want the Democrats to fail, not succeed, but they're going all in that we are going to fumble.
But we have our foot on the gas. We are ascendant.
And we are multiplying our numbers on a daily basis. Hey, everybody.
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In fact, the dialogue at University of South Florida, I had a young man bring up something in regards to the trans debate that I should have known, but I didn't. And I did some research called the Swire syndrome at a campus at University of Florida.
There were other little elements. There was a young man, you guys will get a kick out of this video, saying that we need to legalize LSD.
Made a pretty compelling case. I wasn't able to counter it either way or counter or support it.
Not exactly a subject matter that I care about, but almost like clockwork. I would say the number one question I receive with regularity is not even abortion.
I did not get a single abortion question yesterday at the University of Florida. Pretty amazing when you think about it.
I will get marijuana a lot. And there were some guys smoking marijuana the whole time yesterday.
It smelled terrible. But I will always get a question on Israel.
And, of course, we are America first here on this program. We are not America only.
Israel is an ally. I love Israel.
I treasure Israel. It's a beautiful country, not a perfect government, and not everything they've ever done is admirable or good or defensible, nor is the American government.
That's not the point. But Israel as a nation is a place worth defending.
Israel as a place with sovereignty and borders. And Israel shines a lot brighter when you contrast it with the barbarism and the disgusting behavior, that's being very sweet, the butchery of its neighbors.
For anyone that has eyes to see and ears to hear and actually reads the Qadith and reads parts of the Quran, you know that conquest is an Islamic value. To submit is literally what Islam means, to make those submit.

It's very hard to get serious Muslims to admit to this, that they actually do want conquest, that they do want to take over. Gaddafi said something similar in the late 90s, saying that we're going to take over Europe without ever having to lift a sword.
So there has definitely been a enough intellectual cover that said this. We've had imams in England saying they want to mount the West like a woman to be mounted and subdued.
This young man, I understand he's just a young man, I believe though is an embodiment of a lot of the Islamic world. Islamic has rules for how to distribute the spoils of war, including sex slaves.
This is a mindset that is dominant, a worldview that is popularized in the Islamic Arab world. This video is going viral.
It is worth listening to carefully. Play cut 245.
If Israel laid down all of their weapons and said our military is no more, what would happen? I, at this point in time, I don't believe they would come to a two state solution after everything that's gone on. That wasn't the question prior to if Israel disbanded its military.
Yes. What would happen? The Palestinians would take over, let the Jews.
Oh, okay. Listen, listen, listen.
Not forcefully. This is how they operate.
This is how Muslims operate Islamically. They let them live under them in Jizdi.
Yeah, they tax them and they let them live and they take that tax and give it back to them. How do you think the Ottoman Empire worked and lasted 600 years? How do you think the Golden Age of Islam lasted for 300 years? Because this is history.
So, no, I just want to make sure I understand. So they would just take over mostly peacefully? No, most definitely peacefully because that's what their basis is.
Can you show me an example of Jews living peacefully under Islamic rule? Most definitely. Where? When Hamas had Israeli captives.
Have you seen the Israeli captives? They killed? They're not killed. There was a nine-month-old baby that just got returned home as a corpse by Hamas.
But understand that that young man, which is not an embodiment of all Muslims, I get along with a lot of Muslims, but that young man, who I do not believe is a vast

minority, believes that the example of how Jews and Muslims should coexist in the Middle East

is what happened when Hamas took these Jews hostage. That's what he believes is an example

of living peacefully when they slit the throats of these young little babies and return them back

as corpses. The Israeli Hamas struggle is one versus civilization and barbarism.
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Okay, joining us now is a very important guest, Scott Baller from SaturateUSA.

That is saturateusa.org, saturateusa.org. Scott, welcome back to the program.
I know you want to update our audience on the incredible growth and numbers you've been experiencing. Scott, welcome back.
Thanks, Charlie. Thanks for having us on.
Yeah, no, you know, we got together last time in July at the Believers Summit, and it was just such a great event. That was the one I think a lot of people saw that President Trump was on, made the comments about challenging Christians to get out there and vote, that he needed their vote.
And that got a lot of play, I know, on a lot of the different networks, which is great. But yeah, we were able to be at that conference, meet a lot of great people, a lot of great young Americans.
And the results for us were great. We had, if you're going to believe it, within a month after that conference, we had about 95 zip codes adopted for SaturateUSA, which accounts for about 575,000 people that shared the gospel.
So great stuff. Love you guys.
Love the Believer Summit that we had, and excited to continue to work and partner with you guys on getting the word out about Jesus Christ and sharing the gospel with people in the United States. So let's put up that chart that we had yesterday.
It's really interesting. The New York Times wrote a piece saying that America's religious decline is actually curbed.
it's flat lined a little bit, and it's going up slightly, Scott. As you can see as that chart, over the last couple decades, there was a steady march downward of people no longer identifying as religious or spiritual or Christian.
And so they are, it was marching down. But in the last couple of years, post-COVID, we've seen it tick up a little bit.
So during COVID, it went down, and now we are seeing a slight resurgence, dare we call it a revival. Do you see this in your work that you are doing at Saturate USA? And tell us some of the data and the stories that you're experiencing.
Well, definitely, Charlie. You know, COVID was tough because obviously the government was keeping people from eating in churches.
And so that's a very tough thing. But since then, I think we're seeing a huge revival in people's values, wanting to get back to Christian values, understanding that that's where we need to be as a country.
And so we've seen huge numbers. We've actually had, on a guesstimate, there's about 120 million households in the United States.
We've had 53 million adopted already over the last four to five years. And it's been incredible.
We see churches going out there every day, sharing the gospel in their neighborhoods. And the whole premise of SaturateUSA is not to uplift some organization, but really to get the churches

back out in the community. And my personal opinion, as we've seen what's happened in the

election here in November, was I think that we're seeing that people are realizing that we've got to

get back to some truth. We've got to get back, as Musk said, about caring.
We've got to get back to,

you know, the values that are there in our country. It's not just about, you know, how you feel.
There is a right and wrong in there, and we believe, you know, that's very clear in the gospel message of Jesus Christ. And so we are seeing that uptick.
And the hope is, I think as a country, is as we get back to more values of biblical values, I think then our values as it pertains to family, as it pertains to politics, all it changes as well. And I think that's, I think the American people have made a pretty strong case for that in the last election.
As you look at the things that Trump, you know, went on and then the reaction and the numbers, as you see, polls with people really caring about their community and so forth. And then I think with Christianity, a lot of times when things get tough, which we know, man, they were really tough there for four years under Biden, that people rely on prayer.
They rely on their neighbors. They rely on help.
And that's where the church can jump in and just help people out so much. History, economics, the great works of literature.
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We must remind people the Constitution is incompatible with a faithless nation. The Constitution and a faithless nation cannot coexist, and we need a belief in the eternal and the divine.
And I do want to mention

this just because it's about this topic of faith, that there has been a terrible situation for

Christians, and I'll connect the dots here in a second, in the Democratic Republic of Congo,

70 believers were beheaded in church, and it received no attention at all whatsoever

from the mainstream media or from any coverage.

That's right. 70 Christians were beheaded, and these were Islamic jihadists and are a threat to Judeo-Christian civilization.

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and how amazing the freedoms and liberties that we enjoy.

Scott, as you do this work at Saturate USA, remind our audience how all of them can take it upon themselves

I don't know. and liberties that we enjoy.
Scott, as you do this work at Saturate USA, remind our audience how all of them can take it upon themselves to spread the gospel and spread the word. What does this look like in practice? Pretty simple, Charlie.
What we ask people to do is get out there and either through individuals, through neighborhoods, through churches, to go out and spread the gospel through their neighborhoods. Basically, we provide them a packet.
We call them saturate packets. They have a DVD with online streaming capacities to look at the Jesus film in over 1,800 different languages.
It has Magdalena as well, which is a movie about her, and it's a great movie for inner city people. And then the last one would be Jesus film for children, which is pretty self-explanatory.
Those are provided on the DVD, but really are provided streaming-wise for free for people. And then the last thing in there, there's a booklet that's called, Do You Want to Know God Personally? And it's a very simple way to lead people through accepting Christ as their Lord and Savior.
The last thing we ask then for the people to do is to put in local church information in the packet. The goal is to get these people in their neighborhoods to be connecting with each other, with their neighbors, and then getting them into our local churches because that's where we need them to be.
And so the impact's been incredible. We have, like I said, had over 53 million homes adopted.
And people are going out with these packets with their church information in. They're walking the streets.
They're praying for houses as they do it. And they're putting these packets either in hand by knocking on the door, but most people leave them on the door and then follow up weeks later.
And we have seen church after church after church have huge impacts in sharing the gospel in their community, helping people in need and getting out there and doing that. And, you know, it's pretty amazing.
You know, as I drive down my neighborhood, I don't know half the people in there, but I should. I should be sharing with the people in my neighborhood.
I should be having community with them because if I'm doing that, then the values I have, they're going to know them and I might be able to impact them in greater ways, not only with their faith, but with politics and all those kinds of things. And so it's really simple.
You go out to saturateusa.org, you fill out a form that takes about 10 seconds, and one of our representatives will call you and get you set up. The key to this, Charlie, is everything is 100% free.
There's no charge. We ship for free.
Usually it takes about two to three weeks to get the materials. If we need to expedite that, we can.

But the whole process is free, and the goal is to share the gospel with our neighbors. And is it fair to say that people can spend 20 minutes on this, two hours on this, two days on this? Talk about how people can fit it within their schedule and then recite the website one more time, please.
Yeah. So, I mean, we have anywhere from,

I know a couple in Denver, Colorado that has done, if you can imagine, over about 25,000 homes.

And they've been doing that for the last year.

They go out on Saturdays and spend an hour or two walking,

doing this on their free time.

We've had churches that do, you know,

weekend events where they get 100 to 150 volunteers and they'll do 15,000 in a Saturday. But, you know, as you can think, you know, depending on your neighborhood and how spread out homes are and, you know, how well, you know, walking, I mean, high school kids can do phenomenal things.
I've seen youth groups do, you know, a couple thousand in an hour. But it's very simple.
You basically do it in your time when you want to do it and in whatever way you want. We're more than happy as an organization to tell you best practices or give you information and connect you with other churches that have done it, but the key is it's done in your time and it can be done at your speed when you want to do it and so forth.
We are doing a special thing where we're really trying to do a big push for Easter. We would love to get 2 million homes adopted in the next month or so, so that we could have a big push before Easter.
I think Easter is always a great time for the church to get people to come to church and to get involved in their community. So that's one of the things.
But the website is saturateusa.org.

There's a two-minute video you can watch.

It explains the whole process to you in detail.

And then, like I said, there's a form you fill out.

It takes about 10 seconds.

And we will have someone call you and get you guys going on it.

Scott, excellent.

Thank you so much.

You're welcome back anytime.

Keep up the great work, and God bless you.

Thank you, Charlie.

Have a great one. Thanks.
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