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We talk about a lot of different things on this program. In addition to Blake doing the Roman history whiz kid stuff, you're going to love the topics that we cover everything from Doge to mass deportations, robotics, AI, and more.
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Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie.
He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country.
He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
That that is noble gold investments.com it's where i buy all of my gold go to noble gold investments.com ask me anything where you can ask questions and come on this show but only if you are a member members.charliekirk.com i also have next to me mr blake blake might answer questions from you guys but more importantly during the breaks we're going to test his blind knowledge of hillsdale college roman history people wanted it back charlie they want it by popular demand and that is something to witness and see it is awfully entertaining and kind of breathtaking.
Okay, Daisy, who do we have first?
Daisy does a great job running the member brigade.
Trey, thank you for being a member.
Where are you from and what is on your mind?
Yeah, how's it going, Charlie?
Good, how are you?
I'm good.
I'm the chapter president for the University of South Carolina.
Oh, yes.
Hi again.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm doing good. The chapter's doing great as well.
We're actually looking to get, at the minimum right now, we're looking at two speakers so far this semester. I love it.
It could be a third if you come. I don't know if I'll be there this spring, but you never know when I'll be in Columbia.
If you're in the air. Are you feeling the campus culture change that, you know, Gen Z kind of more becoming more and more right wing? Yeah, definitely.
Definitely. We're getting a lot more.
We're getting a lot more. We're seeing a lot more conservatives.
There's still there's still there's still a couple crowds out there that we're trying to we're trying to get to come to our meetings. But, you our meetings.
But everything's looking good so far, too. I got a ticket as well for the basketball game on March 2nd, if you're around South Carolina.
Well, thank you. I don't know if I will be.
What's on your mind, man? And thank you for being a Turning Point chapter leader. Yeah, absolutely.
So I wanted to talk about the mass deportations and what we could see with the housing market. So with mass deportations happening around the country, let's just take a second to consider what could happen in the construction industry.
So in 2022, the American Immigration Council reported that there were over 23% of the construction workforce in Texas was comprised of illegal and undocumented immigrants. So obviously this varies state by state, but regardless, we're sure to see a massive change because 23%, that's almost a quarter of the entire construction workforce.
So we're going to see a massive change in the construction workforce and the mass deportation with mass deportations on the rise. So what do you predict the future of the construction market looks like with there going to be a low supply of construction workers? Will we see service and trade workers maybe learn the art of construction? And how do you think the housing market will be affected by this? So a couple of things.
First, just some good news on deportations. 37,660 people were deported in the last month.
That's a good number. So it should be higher, but it's good.
Let me just kind of make sure I'm going to do this times 12. Annualized, that's about 440,000.
We probably need to get to about a million a year before we really start to stem the tide of even what Biden did.
But that's good.
440,000 is not insignificant. That is definitely worthy of focus.
Long term, I will say, Trey, long term in the housing market and development, we are going to see a mass adoption of robotics replacing human beings for skilled tasks. That is not imminent.
But Blake, would you say that's five to 10 years? There was a viral video just the other day showing an AI trained robot sorting groceries on a typical kitchen counter. And it's going to start with only a handful of places are going to do it,
but it's going to become more and more and more common.
It's going to be similar to how internet
was kind of like tried in a certain places.
It's going to take over the world,
which actually honestly is more of a reason
for restrictionist immigration policy.
Why do you have to have so many foreigners
coming in to do your jobs
if robots are going to do those jobs? And if we handle it right, it can know it's a choice before us don't make our lives worse make it better just same way there used to be a million people who had to do washing full-time and then we invented the washing machine totally that was on balance a good thing for ordinary people i i agree and i think that the more cynical view of mass thank you that's great b-roll guys look at that, for the mass adoption of robotics and AI. The cynical view is that, well, what will humans beings do with their time? I will say first and foremost, if done properly, AI chatbots, what's this one, perplexity I have on my computer.
If you know how to use it, it can actually make you better at your craft. It can make you sharper, make you faster.
It's not it's not even a replacement it's an accelerant now there will be a lot of replacement and displacement but i would not underestimate human beings ability to use technology to find better and greater uses and purposes and it needs it needs to benefit the species uh ryan says look we used ai for a whole thought crime segment last night yeah the statues. Yeah, that was great.
All the statues. Grok in particular.
Yeah, you could use it to make, yeah, like for example, can AI-generated art hurt low-end artists? Yes, and I think we should worry about that. But it could also allow a good artist to create even more art at a much greater scale than before.
You could do a full motion picture movie of an idea you have. So what it's going to do is it's going to sharpen human beings' ability to judge what is good and not good, a skill that we don't always use.
But there definitely could be some downsides there. So anyway, as far as the housing market goes, I also think mass deportation will bring the price of housing down because there'll be less bidding for the limited supply.
Thanks, man, for your question. Really appreciate it.
Let's go to Christian. And I don't I want to make sure I pronounce this correctly.
Lisi, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? Hi, thank you.
You did pronounce it correctly. Great.
It happens very often. We were we were at your event at USF.
We had a great time. We appreciate you coming out to visit.
Oh, amazing. You're there yesterday.
Sorry, I didn't say hi. That's great.
Yeah, no, it's okay. We were close, but there was a lot of pushing and shoving and trying to get to you.
There were a lot of people. That's all good.
Yes. Yes.
I was just blown away to see the response from college students and their energy, as well as the nonsensical questions that were asked and the talking points and all the comments about Doge. It was just very interesting to watch.
But my question is about some of the deportations that are being carried out. I know that a lot of, maybe not a lot, but some of the individuals are maybe not high priority.
But do you think we'll get to a point where the DHS will stop approving work authorizations and extensions for those that use
it as a shield to stay in the country. So first of all, I want to just ask, can you just describe to the audience that what that campus vibe was like firsthand? It was a packed group.
They were standing the whole time. Kind of bring us into the arena for someone that's just watching some of the clips? What was it like? What did you learn? What did you see? Yeah.
It was high energy. We got there at about 1030.
So we were there for quite a while. Lots of people coming in.
We heard lots of students that were skipping class just to be able to come see you and be able to witness just some of the action. That's the first time we've been to a college event.
So it was, you know, a very new experience for us. It was obviously hot and sunny and all that.
But just hearing a lot of the questions and seeing the perspective of college students and just what has changed and what their experience has been like in college. And what blew me away the most was hearing, hearing college students say that once a T once a professor finds out, you know, they're conservative Christian fill in the blank that they're looked on differently and treated differently and graded differently.
That was like the most, wasn't that chilling? It was chilling for sure. So thank you for that.
It was an awesome event. As far as the the work authorizations, I don't I don't know.
Look, the president's stated policy right now is that he wants to continue a steady stream of legal immigration and crackdown on illegal immigration. That's fine.
However, if and when I would have some disagreement that if and when it starts to jeopardize the wage growth or the wage integrity of native born Americans, I would have some problems with that. But I think the president is addressing this in a very smart way.
Go after people that are in this country illegally. And you remember that young lady yesterday from Columbia.
She said, we're here legally. We want the people who are not here legally to get the heck out of the country.
It actually creates a lot of legal versus illegal immigrant resentment, as it should. Thank you so much for being there yesterday.
Sorry, I didn't get to say hi. Daisy, let's send them a signed book or something.
Thank you guys. Appreciate it.
Oh, thank you. You're the best.
All right. We're going to see how much Blake knows about random Roman trivia brought to you by Hillsdale College.
Just a reminder, all of this is accessible at charlieforhillsdale.com. So normally, if Blake was doing this how I would, I take the online course and then I take the quiz.
Now, you've never taken these online courses, correct, Blake? I have not. I have not.
They're wonderful, for the record. But this is what you could know if you take them.
You're not like me who just does this like a psychopath in my free time yes well you said it but yes um but it's fun because now blake is kind of going in blind now the extra points if you can do without me telling you the multiple choice okay okay so this so let's take some time on this we have all hour to kind of go throughout this this is the first question okay polybius did i say that right yes was the tutor and mentor of blank whom he accompanied on campaign uh his name was scipio um it was not scipio africanus that was his ancestor it was scipio amelianus that is right uh well i don't know if it's right but that's one of the options so uh the options were quintus fabius scipio africanus hannibal barca and scipio hann. Would not be Hannibal.
And Scipio Alamanus is one of them. We'll find out if you were right at the end, but I imagine you are.
So who was Polybius? Polybius was this Greek guy who got, his dad was a leader in like southern Greece. We won't get into the drama about it, but it was like the Achaean League, I think was the name of it.
And they got beat in a war, so he was a hostage in Rome. And he either grew up in Rome or at least like he spent most of his age in Rome.
And he became this big Rome. It's kind of crazy.
He basically, Rome was not super dominant yet. But Polybius deduced Rome is going to be the superpower of the Mediterranean.
What year was this? This is maybe about 150 BC or so. And he thinks Rome is going to be the superpower of the Mediterranean.
They are going to take over the world, basically, and I'm going to write about why. And so he wrote histories of Rome, but he also wrote analysis of the Roman Constitution and stuff like that.
Got it. According to Polybius, the primary reason Rome was able to conquer the Mediterranean world in less than 53 years was due to what? He thought they had a special magical constitution.
That is one of the answers. We'll find out if you're right.
According to Polybius, blank is, and again, I can give you the multiple choice answers if you'd like. Blank is part of the constitution of Rome.
Now, I probably have to give you the multiple choice answers here. Yeah, give me the options here.
So according to Polybius, blank is part of the constitution of Rome. Education, religion, the military, all of the above or none of the above? All of the above.
Okay, just to make sure. Because he's really, it's not even just, it's not like our Constitution where it's just, you know, how political is.
He's really describing how their whole society is organized. So you would say all of the above? Yeah.
Education, religion, and military. Okay.
Got it. Question four.
Very heavy on Polybius today.bius explains that the romans had a mixed constitution with the senate designed to supply what uh it's going for i think aristocracy is what he's going for because he would say in the greeks they would have oligarchies which were were aristocratic, tyrannies or like monarchies.
And then they would have democracies, which was the mob.
And he thought Rome had all three of these because they had the tribunes who were like
the masses.
They would have monarchy through their consuls who were like an elected monarch sort of.
And then the Senate was the aristocracy.
So he's going for aristocracy.
So that is one of the options.
So is that your final answer?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Aristocracy.
This is the last one.
Then we'll take a break and we'll get back to the um the highest office in the cursus honorum did i say that right cursus honorums i'm not sure how you pronounce it for sure was the what uh consul okay that is one of the answers so i know enough to be dangerous about a consul cicero was a roman council yes they only serve for one year one year and they were rotating it used to be you couldn't do it more than once. That would break down over time.
So I think Marius was consul seven times. But yeah, Cicero was like a one-year Roman council.
Was that before Caesar? I think it was possibly after the first time. Maybe it was a bit before.
I can't remember my exact hierarchy. But yeah.
It was probably when they were still a republic form of government, right? Okay, so that's five of them want to dive deep into churchill into roman history into the u.s constitution into marxism no better place than hillsdale college that is charlieforhillsdale.com to get started for free today it's no charge charlieforhillsdale.com gentlemen let's get real for a second Are you frustrated with today's woke dating scene?
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Brad is next. Brad, thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind? Hey, Charlie see you uh uh we met at uh the christmas gala in mar-a-lago and then uh again at amfest phoenix uh so it's good to see you again um let's see do you have an eidetic memory and um how did you learn to read so fast so i do not have an eidic memory. Blake probably does.
Not quite. But no, I do not.
And I don't know if I have the ability to read fast. I have the ability to process information pretty fast.
I can be sent a paragraph, Be sent information, And I'm pretty good at being able To host a show and read what people are saying And then be able to At least make arguments while not everyone has I think the ability to do that I guess it's a a skill set um Andrew says you process information insanely fast not always accurately but I have a nine but you know if again I I think 90 percent of it instantly yes it's still pretty good yeah and it's uh the the the Ryan says in the chat he says the skill is nuts you could talk on radio and then type messages in our chat at the same time uh very impressive yeah i mean that i i never knew that was a a skill uh andrew says sometimes you jump to conclusions and most of the time it's spot on so that's the best answer i have uh i guess i was born with it thank you a member. Fantastic.
Thanks, Charlie. Kendra, thank you for being a member.
Deeply appreciate it. By the way, I want to encourage you guys to get some of these hats that Blake and I are wearing here.
This guy, you guys can get them at the Charlie Kirk store. We've sent all of them out as were promised, by the way.
Let's go to Kendra. Kendra, what's on your mind? Hi, Charlie.
Great to talk to you. My friend and I, Lori, started a TPSA faith group in our church last year, and we've invited Seth Gruber to speak to us in September.
We have a critically important election in November for governor and House of Delegates because the Democratic Party is trying to put abortion in our Constitution, And we want to stop that. We want to raise awareness.
It's not a presidential election, so we're concerned that people won't show up like they did. And with all the upheaval in the government, we're hoping it breaks up some of the monopoly of liberalism in Northern Virginia.
But we were wondering, in this process, we found out there's no TPUSA action group that I'm aware of in Virginia, or at least no person, and wondered if that's in the works or if there's anybody specific that we can talk to. We'd love to work with them in this coming year before this election.
So first of all, I want to just applaud you, Kendra. The fight for life is the most important fight.
So thank you for doing that and for going against the grain and going against popular conventional, let's just say, views and doing the right thing. So God bless you.
You will be richly rewarded for that. Secondly, I want the number one piece of emphasis on that fight needs to be the churches.
If the churches can't speak out on this issue, then there is no chance that you could stop it, especially, though, in a lower turnout type election. That's where churches can mobilize and can make up some of that difference.
You are correct. We do not yet have full time staff or any presence in in Virginia at Turning Point Action.
We might expand, but understand every organization has to know their limitations, know where they're best positioned. Arizona has been obviously a major focus of ours.
We're keeping an eye on Virginia. I certainly hope there's a good senatorial candidate coming.
I would love to see Glenn Youngkin run for Senate in 2026. But more importantly, we do have tools that you and Virginia can use.
You can use the Turning Point Action app. You could do a Commit 100.
You can use some of our training. So there's a lot that is still available for you.
But we are contemplating getting involved in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Kendra, really quick, do you believe that Virginia could turn into a red state presidentially?
Yes, I do.
The area that I'm in, so much of the areas that we found are very red.
In fact, I worked in the polls as an election worker, and I was told that our area is heavily Democratic.
And I looked afterward, and all the Republicans on the slate won our area by a lot. So I was very pleased about that.
I think you're right. Again, I don't want to get too bullish on it, but the trend is our friend in Virginia.
It really is. But Kendra, do not give up on the fight for life.
It is incredibly important. I know that people want to ignore it and they don't want to fight for it, but lean in.
I'm glad you're hosting Seth and hold the line. Seriously, God bless you for that.
Thank you, Kendra, for being a member. Thanks so much.
God bless. Okay.
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The courses are amazing. I am going to try to have Blake take some of the courses because I don't know if you could do this with every topic.
Probably not. Like the Jane Austen one.
I haven't read Jane Austen yet. Got to get on that.
The Euclidean geometry might be like, okay. So let's use this as a chance to educate around this.
The Tribune of the Plebs. Did I say that correctly? Had the power to blank.
First, what is the Tribune of the Plebs? Tribune of the Plebs was a, it was an office created. They kind of had this thing called the struggle of orders in Rome because they had patricians who were the elite, the noble class.
And then you had the plebs, ordinary people. And the tribune, they were kind of an office that was created after the plebs revolted a few too many times and they would demand more rights.
And the tribune, he, the big thing that he could do is, or a few things. One, he was personally inviolable.
So he was, you could not touch a tribune, I believe. I think it was a death penalty offense to harm a tribune, basically.
And then they could veto legislation. Veto literally.
And that's one of the options. They could veto.
It literally means I forbid. And they could just say veto and kill a bill.
And then if they're looking for something else, they have the ability to convene the people's assembly. Yeah, yeah.
They could do that, too. Okay, so would you say then convene People's Assembly and veto bills? Yes.
That's one of the options. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah, we'll go with that. Okay, very good.
Number seven. I have to, this is a fill in the blank.
The blank was a ladder of offices through which Roman citizens. That's what, cursus honorum or honorum or however you want to say that.
Okay, well, I don't even have to say the options. Yeah, exactly.
Well, they already said it in the quiz. The power to conduct foreign diplomacy for the Roman Republic.
Russian Republic. That would be crazy.
For the Roman Republic resided with the blank. That would be the Senate.
The Senate would declare war. The consuls would command the army, but it wasn't like us where the president does these things.
It would be that the Senate would send ambassadors. They would reply to things.
And now just to remind the audience, this was before the transition from the republic to a dictatorship, correct? So a dictatorship was an office that the Roman Republic had. For military purposes, right? So what happened is the dictator was like an – the consul they had was – they had was they had two consoles and they could each over like they couldn't override the other and so when there was a super big emergency the romans would declare a dictator where it was basically only one he would supersede the consoles and his word was law it could only go for six months and at the end of it he would have to answer for anything he did But he could basically had absolute power for six months.
And they would use this for emergencies. Julius Caesar did declare himself dictator for life.
They got a little stabby stabby towards him for that. And then on the Ides of March.
Yes. And then a lot happened in the 15 years after that.
And it ends with the empire. And it was kind of a constitutional fiction that they created first first so it's sort of a process where Rome gets, it becomes an empire in fact and then it becomes more and more and more so in practice.
And Augustus. So like Augustus, he just called himself first citizen and he was the emperor because he just held Wasn't he the nephew of Julius Caesar? I think he was the biological nephew and adopted son.
I know enough to be dangerous. CharlieforHillsdale.com, you'd say the Senate would be there.
Yeah, yeah, Senate. Just a reminder, guys, go to charliekirkstore.com to get these beautiful hats.
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charliekirkstore.com. Yeah, I was telling Charlie before, I looked up who the 47th emperor was, and it's not easy to say who the 47th is because there's co-emperors, but the best answer, I think, is Diocletian, which if you look him up, he's a very important reformer emperor.
There was a giant crisis. The empire was falling apart, and he is the one who restored stability.
He also persecuted Christians a lot. We don't agree with that part of it.
But that was bad. That was bad.
Don't do that. But he did a lot of other things that were good.
He was Merrick Garland in that way. All right.
Two more. I want to get to these two more questions here.
Polybius argues that the primary flaw of the Roman Constitution is a true or false. Was that it impeded decisive and prompt action when it was needed? False, because he thought that was one of the things that was good about it, is that it had a deliberative aspect.
but when there was an emergency it could supply decisive action rome's mixed constitution created a system of checks whereby each part of the regime could prevent the others from becoming too strong or independent because no part of the regime was blank i can read the options yeah read the options on that one capable of conducting foreign affairs in control the military self-sufficient or in charge of public finances uh i think they're going for self-sufficient on that one we can we can pause if you want to do self-sufficient because that's the last question right okay just to say rome's mixed constitution create a system of checks whereby each part of the regime could prevent others from becoming too strong or independent because no part of the regime was self-sufficient. I want to know before we get back, did I get them all? We're about to find out.
100%. Yes.
But you got to do it again. Charlie for Hillsdale.com.
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Thomas is next. Thomas, thank you for being a member.
Where are you from? What's on your mind?
Hi, Charlie. I'm from New Jersey.
So I'm a 19 year old conservative pop music artist. I want to be able to share my views and build my brand around that.
But I find it very hard in a liberal industry with Chapel Rohn and Charlie XCX. And I've always been told, oh, you got to push your music towards the LGBTQ community, which I thought's ridiculous.
So my question is, how can I be a like MAGA conservative pop star when I have everything going against me? Well, you have the population going for you. Remember what side won the popular vote? So, I mean, it might feel as if everything's against you in your current industry right now.
But I could tell you that you could definitely become very popular.
Now, I will tell you, I want to thank you for being a member, and I'd love to listen to your music.
I don't know if I'd like it or not.
But no offense to you, I just don't know if I like the genre.
My team trolls me all the time.
I don't know who Charlie XCS is or Chappelle Rowan.
Do you know who these people are?
I've heard of them.
Which Roman emperor was Chappelle Rowan? Admitted admittedly i can't help you on that one it's a charlie xcx that could be like a very late stage that's like a late stage roman emperor right charles the 10th charles that could be like a could be like a french emperor no no put up put up chappelle rowan on screen do you know who chappelle rowan is let me see let me see what is that that does look like a piece of renaissance art i'm gonna go with french mon thomas do you know who chappelle rowan is no yeah oh yeah um i bet your music's better uh she has a song called pink pony club daisy says you would hate it i'm sure i would here here look if you love the craft man lean into it dedicate your life to it don't let anybody get in your way do what you believe is right art needs to glorify the highest good the problem the reason why music largely is terrible last 20 years it's not pointing towards anything it's pointing towards self-indulgence it's pointing towards licentiousness it's pointing towards narcissism all art all inquiry points towards some good what is that from blake aristotle's ethics it points it everything and like and aristotle's exactly right everything you do every action every inquiry every art every good points towards some good it points towards what your definition of good is and there is only one objective definition of good so the point being is if you're going to be in pop start do something that points towards the divine towards the beautiful not just towards rubbish like uh chappelle roanne thanks man hope to meet you soon and uh please send me your they call it a mixtape still please send me your uh playlist thanks man thank you kylie joni thank you for being a member what's's on your mind? Hey, Charlie. Hey, Blake.
The 47 hats look great. Aren't they great? Yeah, they are.
I can't wait to wear mine. And it's CharlieKirkStore.com.
Yeah, I purchased one. So I know you're sending them out.
So I can't wait to receive it and wear it. Anyway, my questions are around election integrity.
And I'm from Orange County. I know you're in Arizona.
We've probably shared the same frustrations with the long counting process. And I observed in the polls.
And then I also observed the counting in the Orange County registrars of voters just watching the ballots and watching a couple seats get turned over from red to blue with all the mail-in ballots and the provisional ballots. So I guess my question is, I think I saw your governor recently reject implementing some of the Florida voting process.
Oh, yeah. The wonderful Katie Hobbs.
Yeah. Yeah, Katie Hobbs.
Well, for— So what does it know about that? And then what's next? And if President Trump and or Doge have any plans of cleaning up voter rolls and ending this long process of counting ballots after Election Day. So yes, a couple things on that.
The problem is the federal government does not have as much authority or jurisdiction over this as you might think. So let me read my X on this, if that's okay.
Katie Hobbs just vetoed HB 2703, a bill that would have guaranteed Arizonans who would know the winner on the night of the election. Arizona has been the laughingstock of national politics because it takes three to four weeks to deliver a final canvas.
And Arizona's Democrat governor just vetoed it, as you say. We must become a state that will settle for this.
And here's my unfortunate, but actually also fortunate, because I think we can do it. This has to be a state-led thing.
This is not going to happen from the feds. It has to be a state-led thing.
And so we have to say that we're going to win the states from the bottom up and engage the grassroots. So that's the best answer I have.
And hopefully we can pass the SAVE Act. All right.
Thank you. Vernon is next.
Vernon, what's on your mind? Hey, Charlie. First time on the show live.
Actually listening to the show live. So excited that I got to talk to you.
Quick question. I'm interested in your opinion on this third term project that showed up at CPAC this week, you know, purporting to allow President Trump to run again.
I'm from my kind of libertarian sort of roots kind of fundamentally against it, but I'd like to see term limits for all elected officials. But just wondering, you know, if you could give your context and thoughts on it.
So as far as trump's third term is that case that we were talking about yeah i don't think it's constitutional i'm open and willing to hear any and all arguments blake what if any would the argument be that trump could run for a third term i i and i let me just let's just read it constitutionally what is the amendment 21 is i think it's the 23rd 22 22 22 so let's read this okay and i i want to let's let's hear this out okay because any argument we're going to hear out no president shall be elected to the office of president more than twice and no person who has held the office of president or has acted as president for more than two years of a term which some other person was elected president shall be elected to the office of president more than once and then it goes on but basically doesn't apply to true yeah but it does say i mean it's they would say it's not two consecutive terms. It does not mention consecutive anything here.
It says no person shall be elected to the office more than twice. Sometimes people will say sometimes people will speculate you could do something like you could elect him vice president.
And then. Right.
But then what it says is like no one who is ineligible to the office of president can be elected vice president. there are sometimes people will come up with i think it's a cop-out where they'll say well eligibility only means things like they can't be from you know born in a foreign country they can't be below the age and like this is something else i'll be honest i think those are all massive cop outs like we passed this bill because fdr made himself president more than two terms we thought that was a a bad precedent that we shouldn't repeat.
Yeah, that's exactly right. So, you know, only can go two terms.
And I think if they try to get around that, it would be unconstitutional. This happens every time a president— I'm Trump's biggest fan.
And, I mean, if he's popular and if it's constitutional, fine, serve with a term. I just want to—I'm just reading the law because we're— And this happens every time a president gets reelected.
You know, Bush, you know bush someone proposed like oh let's get rid of the term limits for bush obama democrats said let's get rid of limits for obama this happens it's understandable we like our guy but we did pass this for a reason in 1951 yeah and the text of the constitution is can't be president more than twice and in the long run i think that's a good practice to have because what, as we'll see
with Rome, what undoes any republic is the idea that one person is just totally indispensable to
it. But by the way, all of you guys, this is one of the reasons why you should support Turning
Point USA. You should have this constitution with you at all times.
It's amazing. It has all of the
extra facts on it. Again, I am open to any argument always, but help me understand, is there wiggle
room in the statement, no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice? It does not strike me. Now, if it said that no person shall be elected to consecutive terms, it's just none of that is there.
All right. Thank you.
Let's go to the next question. Scott, Scott, what is on your mind? Members.CharlieKirk.com.
Yeah. Hi, Charlie.
Thank you. First off, I want to publicly thank President Trump for signing the executive order, keeping education accessible and ending the COVID-19 vaccine mandates in schools.
But I'm not sure if the president or if other people are aware of what's been happening in California since 2016. Governor Jerry Brown passed a bill, the SB 277, which removed personal belief or religious belief as a reason to be exempted from vaccines in order to enter school.
So my question is, do you see Trump doing the same thing for all vaccines? Because the rationale inside of that executive order, the language used is pretty compelling. It's talking about children being coerced to take a shot and conditioning their education on it, parents being and how parents should be empowered, free to make their own decisions.
And so this is critical because as RFK Jr. has stated, there are no pre-licensure double-blind placebo tests for any of the vaccines out there.
And so I'm not comfortable injecting my two boys with aborted fetal tissue and no neurotoxins without that 100% assurance that they'll be okay, along with the $5 billion paid out to the vaccine injury compensation programs. So my question is, do you see him actually moving just beyond COVID-19 and going to all vaccines and giving Californians, and I know Colorado and Hawaii have a similar thing, but giving Californians the right to go back to school and not being forced out of school? It's a really thoughtful question.
Just so you know, Producer Andrew is dealing with something very similar similar right now I don't want to out him too much but he's saying this you know ferociously in the chat which is okay he said it's okay he said he's dealing it with his son and daughter right now he can't use religious exemptions they're demanding the full schedule every single shot and so look on you have to be level-headed about this but Do we want to have, you know, MMR breakouts in schools? Probably not. At the same time, if you don't have a hepatitis B vaccine, you're not allowed into elementary school.
That's insane. Like, I'm sorry, that's technically on the schedule.
And they're literally at a place now where if you don't have the covid shot, they're not allowing kids into these schools. And so I think there's some middle ground where there could be kind of a core schedule that might be necessary for certain schools.
But religious exemptions used to be a thing in California, and they've completely clamped down on them. So I think that it's something Bobby Kennedy needs to address completely and thoroughly.
So yeah, I agree. This is this is it's forcing a lot of families out of school.
Well, and that that's thing is that we are quickly heading towards vaccinated and unvaccinated schools. That's where this is going to head.
That is that direction. All right.
Thank you, man. Really good question.
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Thank you. Or we could just go after.
We could. I got something else to do let me according to dr calvert which is that this is a this is a very difficult question the ideal roman was what and there's like many options was it a farmer lawyer or you have to know this historian so this is not a fair question right so is he the guy like in the lecture yeah i mean i assume he's probably thinking like if you're thinking the ideal abstract roman he'd be like a citizen farmer okay so yeah so a citizen farmer warrior yeah yeah that would that'd be like if you get this wrong i won't hold that'd be like cincinnatus you know because yeah the order of cincinnatus washington was part of that wasn't he order of the cincinnati society of the cincinnati that's where we get the town cincinnati from right okay i'll i'll if get that wrong, I don't think that's fair.
The top of the Roman social order
was the what class? Patricians.
The struggle of the orders
encompassed a period of about 200 years
during which the Plebeians
demanded that the patriarchs give them greater
social or political. True.
Going fast. Blank
was celebrated as one of the great models of
Roman citizenship for keeping invading the Entruscan forces from crossing the sublimatius horatius yeah i don't know his phone so horatius at the bridge the great poem read it the blank is the highest religious position in the roman republic pontifex maximus that's why the roman pope is called uh the pontifex the evocatio was an ancient Roman prayer that asked what? It was this like funny prayer they would do where they would act like if they were attacking an enemy city, they would pray like, hey, gods of the other people, you should come be our gods instead. And so then if they won.
For foreign peoples to abandon their gods and turn to Rome? I think it was foreign gods to abandon. That's an option too? Yeah.
Okay. Okay, really quick.
Lucius Quintetius Cincinnati is remembered as a great hero of Rome because he what? Because he was dictator and he handed the power back. Like he left his farm, won a battle, and then quit.
Like that was the Roman... Refused the office of dictator and continued to find it.
Not refused. He became dictator, but then he forfeited it voluntarily.
Like he resigned after. Yeah, you're going to have to choose that one, though.
I mean, it defeated the Aquaean surrender dictatorial power after 15 years? 15 days. 15 days.
You like that one? Yeah. Okay, so he defeated and surrendered.
Okay. In the early republic, a dictator was a what? A dictator was someone elected to emergency powers.
Yep, that's right. At the battles of Heraclea and Asulim.
Asculum and Heraclea.
Yeah, Pyrrhus.
Pyrrhus of Epirus.
Pyrrhic victory.
He won but lost a lot of dudes and then said he could not keep fighting the Romans because if he won too many battles, he would lose the war.
The Romans had conquered most of the Italian peninsula by what year?
They'd done most of it. Oh, yeah, they defeated the Greeks like 275.
Yeah, it was 270 BC. Yeah, that sounds about right.
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Okay, let's go to Zane. Zane, thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind? Zane, the floor is yours. Yes.
Hello. I'm 20 years old, and I have a lot of um younger friends and i'm wondering how to get them involved in like politics well first of all uh glad you're involved uh with being a member get them involved with turning point usa especially um you know being a young patriot is super important and have community communication and it's always helpful to meet with regularity.
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Thank you so much, man. Last question of the day.
Shannon, Shannon, thank you for being a member. You're the last question.
Let's bring it home. Hi, Charlie.
Thank you for having me. Yes.
How are you? I'm well, thank you. I'm a teacher in Western New York.
And just wondering what so what happens if if they do eliminate the Department of Education, like in a blue state like mine, where right now I have more trust in the federal government than I do in the federal leadership here in my state. Smart question.
To be honest, it's going to empower your state even more. And that's just the sad truth.
It's a valid concern because the best thing the Department of Education has currently is they have the Civil Rights Office where they can say you're discriminating against white kids or whatever. And I'd hope that we can get rid of the Department of Education, but move that to the DOJ because that law still exists.
I will say that Blake is exactly right, that functionally the ability to enforce and police like anti-white discrimination, that will go to the Department of Justice. I will say what state do you live in? Western New York.
I didn't internalize that. So, yes, that is a unintended, not unintended, but that's just the reality of it.
But you could also vote with your feet. I know that sounds terrible because I don't like telling people to leave their homes.
But the federalized Department of Education has done such damage, declining test scores, massive administration. And let me just tell you one number that Dr.
Larry Arnn told us on our show, which everyone should commit to memory. You ready for this? There are 23 million people that work for the government in America.
11 million of them are in education. Only 6.7 million of them are teachers.
That's crazy. That's Dr.
Larry Arnn on our show. 4.3 million administrators.
Yeah, so 6.7 million of them. Let me look this right it was 11 6.7 6.7 million are administrators holy cow so more of them yes there's more administrators than teachers okay that's according to dr larry arn so that means that the majority of education spending goes towards paper pushers and permanent bureaucracy again that's dr larry arn's numbers.
I trust him. He's a serious guy.
And I mean, it just goes to show what is the Department of Education done?
It's the Department of Paper
pushing administration
of what it's become.
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