Ask Charlie Anything 213: Three Terms? First Hand Campus Tour Experience? Vaccine Exemptions?

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I also have next to me, Mr. Blake.

Speaker 1 Blake might answer questions from you guys, but more importantly, during the breaks, we're going to test his blind knowledge of Hillsdale College Roman history. People wanted it back, Charlie.

Speaker 1 They want it by popular demand, and that is something to witness and see. It is awfully entertaining and

Speaker 1 kind of breathtaking. Okay, Daisy, who do we have first? Daisy does a great job running the member brigade.
Trey, thank you for being a member. Where are you from and what is on your mind?

Speaker 3 Yeah, how's it going, Charlie? Good. How are you?

Speaker 5 I'm good. I'm the chapter president for the University of South Carolina.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes. Hi again.
How are you?

Speaker 6 I'm good. I'm doing good.

Speaker 5 Chapter's doing great as well. We're actually looking to get, at the minimum right now, we're looking at two speakers so far this semester.

Speaker 1 So, and

Speaker 3 it could be, it could be a third if you come.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'll be there this fall, this spring, but

Speaker 1 you never know when I'll be in Columbia. So, yeah, but are you in the air? Are you feeling the campus culture change that, you know, Gen Z kind of more becoming more and more right-wing?

Speaker 6 Yeah, definitely. Definitely.
We're getting a lot more.

Speaker 5 We're getting a lot more. We're seeing a lot more conservatives.

Speaker 5 there's still a couple uh crowds out there that we're trying to we're trying to get to uh come to our meetings but you know it's everything's looking good so far too um i got a ticket as well for the basketball game on march 2nd if you're in if if you're around south carolina so well thank you i uh don't know if i will but uh all right what's on your mind man and thank you for being a turning point chapter leader yeah absolutely um so i wanted to talk about the the mass deportations and like what we could see with the housing market.

Speaker 5 So with mass deportations happening around the country, let's just take a second to consider what could happen in the construction industry.

Speaker 5 So in 2022, the American Immigration Council reported that there were over 23%

Speaker 5 of or over 23% of the construction workforce in Texas was comprised of illegal and undocumented immigrants.

Speaker 5 So obviously this varies state by state, but regardless, we're sure to see a massive change because 23%, that's almost a quarter of the entire construction workforce. So

Speaker 5 we're going to see a massive change in the construction workforce and the mass deportation with mass deportations on the rise.

Speaker 5 So, what do you predict the future of the construction market looks like with there going to be a low supply of

Speaker 5 construction workers? Will we see service and trade workers maybe learn the art of construction? And

Speaker 5 how do you think the housing market will be affected by this?

Speaker 1 So, a couple things. First, just some good news on deportations.
37,660 people were deported in the last month. That's a good number.
So that it should be higher, but it's good.

Speaker 1 Let me just kind of make sure I'm going to do this times 12. Annualized, that's about 440,000.
We probably need to get to about a million a year before we really start to

Speaker 1 stem the tide of even what Biden did, but that's good. 440,000 is not insignificant.
That is definitely worthy of focus.

Speaker 1 Long term, I will say, Trey, long term in the housing market and development, we are going to see a mass adoption of robotics replacing human beings for skilled tasks.

Speaker 1 That is not imminent, but Blake, would you say that's five to ten years?

Speaker 3 There was a viral video just the other day showing an AI-trained robot sorting groceries

Speaker 3 on a typical kitchen counter.

Speaker 3 And, you know, it's going to start with only a handful of places are going to do it, but it's going to become more and more and more common.

Speaker 1 It's going to be similar to how the internet was kind of like tried in certain places.

Speaker 1 It's going to take over the world, which actually honestly is more of a reason for restrictionist immigration policy.

Speaker 3 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Why do you have to have so many foreigners coming in to do your jobs if robots are going to do this?

Speaker 3 It's not right. It can make our lives better.

Speaker 3 It's a choice before us. Don't make our lives worse, make it better.
Just the same way there used to be a million people who had to do washing full-time, and then we invented the washing machine.

Speaker 3 Totally. That was on balance a good thing for ordinary people.

Speaker 1 I agree, and I think that the more cynical view of mass, thank you, that's great, B-roll, guys. Look at that.

Speaker 1 For the mass adoption of robotics and AI, the cynical view is that, well, what will humans beings do with their time?

Speaker 1 I will say first and foremost, if done properly, AI, chatbots, what's this one? Perplexity I have on my computer. If you know how to use it, it can actually make you better at your craft.

Speaker 1 It can make you sharper, make you faster. It's not even a replacement.
It's an accelerant.

Speaker 1 Now, there will be a lot of replacement and displacement, but I would not underestimate human beings' ability to use technology to find better and greater uses and purposes.

Speaker 1 And it needs to benefit the species.

Speaker 1 Ryan says, look, we used AI for a whole thought crime segment last night for the statues.

Speaker 3 That's great. All the statues?

Speaker 3 Grok in particular.

Speaker 3 You could use it to make, yeah, like, for example, can AI-generated art hurt low-end artists?

Speaker 3 Yes, and I think we should worry about that, but it could also allow a good artist to create even more art at a much greater scale than before.

Speaker 1 You could do a full motion picture movie of an idea you have.

Speaker 1 So what it's going to do is it's going to sharpen human beings' ability to judge what is good and not good, a skill that we don't always use. But there definitely could be some downsides there.

Speaker 1 So anyway, as far as the housing market goes, I also think mass deportation will bring the price of housing down because there will be less bidding for the limited supply.

Speaker 1 Thanks, man, for your question. Really appreciate it.
Let's go to Christian. And

Speaker 1 I want to make sure I pronounce this correctly. Lisi, thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 7 Hi, thank you. You did pronounce it correctly.

Speaker 3 Great.

Speaker 8 It doesn't happen very often.

Speaker 7 We were at your event at USF. We had a great time.
We appreciate you coming out to visit.

Speaker 3 Oh, amazing. You were there yesterday.

Speaker 1 Sorry I didn't say hi. That's great.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, it's okay. We were close, but there was a lot of pushing and shoving and like trying to get to you.

Speaker 1 There were a lot of people talking. Yes.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 7 I was just blown away to see the response from college students and their energy and, you know,

Speaker 7 as well as the nonsensical questions that were asked and the talking points and all the comments about Doge. It was just very interesting to watch.
But

Speaker 7 my question is about some of the deportations that are being carried out. I know that a lot of

Speaker 7 maybe not a lot, but some of the individuals are maybe not high priority.

Speaker 7 But do you think we'll get to a point where the DHS will stop approving work authorizations and extensions for those that use it as a shield to stay in the country?

Speaker 1 So first of all, I want to just ask, can you just describe to the audience

Speaker 1 what that campus vibe was like firsthand? It was a packed group. They were standing the whole time.
Kind of bring us into

Speaker 1 the arena for someone that's just watching some of the clips. What was it like? What did you learn? What did you see?

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 it was high energy. It was, you know,

Speaker 7 we got there at about 10.30.

Speaker 7 So we were there for quite a while. Lots of people coming in.
We heard lots of students that were skipping class just to be able to come see you and be able to witness just some of the action.

Speaker 7 That's the first time we've been to a college event.

Speaker 7 So it was, you know, a very new experience for us. It was obviously hot and sunny and all that.
But

Speaker 7 just hearing a lot of the questions and seeing the perspective of college students and just what has changed and what their experience has been like in college.

Speaker 7 And what blew me away the most was hearing hearing college students say that

Speaker 7 once a professor finds out you know, they're conservative, Christian, fill-in-the-blank, that

Speaker 7 they're looked on differently and treated differently and graded differently. That was like the most.

Speaker 7 It was chilling for sure.

Speaker 3 So thank you for that. But it was an awesome event.

Speaker 1 Now, as far as the work authorizations,

Speaker 1 I don't know. Look, the president's stated policy right now is that he wants to continue a steady stream of legal immigration and crack down on illegal immigration.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 However, if and when, I would have some disagreement with that, if and when it starts to jeopardize the wage growth or the wage integrity of native-born Americans, I would have some problems with that.

Speaker 1 But I think the president is addressing this in a very smart way. Go after people that are in this country illegally.
And you remember that young lady yesterday from Columbia.

Speaker 1 She said, we're here legally. We want the people who are not here legally to get the heck out of the country.
It actually creates a lot of legal versus illegal immigrant resentment, as it should.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much for being there yesterday. Sorry I didn't get to say hi.
Daisy, let's send them a signed book or something. Thank you guys.
Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 You're the best.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 1 We're going to see how much Blake knows about random Roman trivia brought to you by Hillsdale College. Just a reminder, all of this is accessible at charlieforhillsdale.com.

Speaker 1 So normally, if Blake was doing this how I would, I take the online course, and then I take the quiz. Now, you've never taken these online courses, correct, Blake?

Speaker 3 I have not. I have not.

Speaker 1 They're wonderful for the record.

Speaker 3 So, this is what you could know if you take them. And you're not like me who just does this like a psychopath in my free time.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Well, you said it. But yes.

Speaker 1 But it's fun because now Blake is kind of going in blind. Now, the extra points, if you can do it without me telling you the multiple choice, okay?

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 1 So this, so let's take some time on this. We have all hour to kind of go throughout this.
This is the first question, okay? Polybius, did I say that right?

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 1 Was the tutor and mentor of Blank, whom he accompanied on campaign?

Speaker 3 His name was Scipio.

Speaker 3 It was not Scipio Africanus. That was his ancestor.
It was Scipio Aemilianus.

Speaker 1 That is right.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know if it's right, but that's one of the options. So the options were Quintus Fabius, Scipio Africanus, Hannibal Barca, and Scipio.

Speaker 3 It would not be Hannibal. It would not be Hannibal.

Speaker 1 And Scipio Alemannis is one of the options. We'll find out if you were right at the end, but I imagine you are.

Speaker 1 So who is Polybius?

Speaker 3 Polybius was this Greek guy who got, his dad was a leader in southern Greece. We won't get into the drama about it, but it was like the Achaean League, I think was the name of it.

Speaker 3 And they got beat in a war, so he was a hostage in Rome. And he either grew up in Rome, or at least like he spent most of his age in Rome, and he became this big Rome.
It's kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 He basically, Rome was not super dominant yet, but Polybius deduced, Rome is going to be the superpower of the Mediterranean. What year was this? This is maybe about 150 BC or so.

Speaker 3 And he thinks, Rome is going to be the superpower of the Mediterranean. They are going to take over the world, basically, and I'm going to write about why.

Speaker 3 And so he wrote histories of Rome, but he also wrote analysis of the Roman Constitution and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 Got it. According to Polybius, the primary reason Rome was able to conquer the Mediterranean world in less than 53 years was due to what?

Speaker 3 He thought they had a special magical constitution.

Speaker 1 That is one of the answers. We'll find out if you're right.
According to Polybius, blank is, and again, I can give you the multiple choice answers if you'd like.

Speaker 1 Blank is part of the Constitution of Rome. Now, I probably have to give you the multiple choice answers.

Speaker 3 I can't answer the assertions here.

Speaker 1 So, according to Polybius, blank is part of the Constitution of Rome. Education, religion, the military, all the above, or none of the above?

Speaker 3 All of the above.

Speaker 1 Okay, just to make sure.

Speaker 3 Because he's really, he's not even just, it's not like our Constitution where it's just, you know, how politicis is. He's really describing how their whole society is organized.

Speaker 1 So you would say all the above. Education, religion, and military.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Got it.

Speaker 1 Question four.

Speaker 1 Very heavy on Polybius today. Polybius explains that the Romans had a mixed constitution with the Senate designed to supply what?

Speaker 3 It's going for, I think, aristocracy is what he's going for because he would say in the Greeks they would have oligarchies, which were aristocratic, tyrannies, or kings, like monarchies, and then they would have democracies, which was the mob.

Speaker 3 And he thought Rome had all three of these because they had the tribunes who were like the masses. They would have monarchy through their consuls who were like an elected monarch, sort of.

Speaker 3 And then the Senate was the aristocracy. So he's going to have to.

Speaker 1 So that is one of the options. So is that your final answer? Okay.
Aristocracy. This is the last one, then we'll take a break and we'll get back to the

Speaker 1 highest office in the cursus honorum.

Speaker 3 Did I say that right? Cursus honorum.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure how you pronounce it for sure. Was the what?

Speaker 3 Consul.

Speaker 1 Okay, that is one of the answers. So I know enough to be dangerous about a consul.
Cicero was a Roman consul.

Speaker 3 Yes, they only served for one year. One year.
And they were rotated. It used to be you couldn't do it more than once.
That would break down over time. So, like, I think Marius was consul seven times.

Speaker 1 But But yeah, Cicero was like a one-year Roman consul.

Speaker 3 Was that

Speaker 1 before Caesar? It had to be.

Speaker 3 I think it was possibly after the first time. Maybe it was a bit before.

Speaker 3 I can't remember my exact hierarchy.

Speaker 1 It was probably when there was still a republic form of government, right? Okay, so that's five of them. If you guys want to dive deep into Churchill, into Roman history, into the U.S.

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Speaker 1 Brad is next. Brad, thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 8 Hey, Charlie, great to see you.

Speaker 8 We met at the Christmas Gala in Mar-a-Lago, and then again again at Amfest Phoenix. So it's good to see you again.

Speaker 8 Let's see. Do you have an eidetic memory? And

Speaker 8 how did you learn to read so fast?

Speaker 1 So I do not have an eidentic memory. Blake probably does.

Speaker 3 Not quite.

Speaker 1 But no, I do not. And I don't know if I have the ability to read fast.
I have the ability to process information pretty fast.

Speaker 1 I can be sent a paragraph, be sent information, and I'm pretty good at being able to host a show and read what people are saying and then be able to

Speaker 1 at least make arguments while not everyone has, I think, the ability to do that. I guess it's a skill set.

Speaker 1 Andrew says you process information insanely fast. Not always accurately, but I have a nine.

Speaker 3 Getting 90% of it instantly is still pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's the

Speaker 1 Ryan says in the chat, he says, the skill is nuts. You could talk on radio and then type messages in our chat at the same time.

Speaker 1 Very impressive. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I never knew that was

Speaker 1 a skill. Andrew says, sometimes you jump to conclusions, but most of the time it's spot on.
So that's the best answer I have. I guess I was born with it.
Thank you, Brad, for being a member.

Speaker 8 Fantastic. Thanks, Charlie.

Speaker 1 Kendra, thank you for being a member. Deeply appreciate it.

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Speaker 9 We've sent all of them out as were promised, by the way let's go to kendra kendra what's on your mind hi charlie great to talk to you um i my friend and i lori started a tpsa faith group in our church last year and we've invited seth gruber to um speak to us in september we have a critically important election in november for governor and house of delegates because the democratic party is trying to put abortion in our constitution and we want to stop that we want to raise awareness it's not a presidential election, so we're concerned that people won't show up like they did.

Speaker 9 And with all the upheaval in the government, we're hoping it breaks up some of the monopoly of liberalism in Northern Virginia.

Speaker 9 But we were wondering in this process, we found out there is no TPUSA action group that I'm aware of in Virginia, or at least no person, and wondered if that's in the works or if there's anybody specific that we can talk to.

Speaker 9 We'd love to work with them in this coming year before this election.

Speaker 1 So first of all, I want to just applaud you, Kendra. The fight for life is the most important fight.
So thank you for doing that and for going against the grain and going against popular conventional,

Speaker 1 let's just say, views and doing the right thing. So God bless you.
You will be richly rewarded for that. Secondly, I want

Speaker 1 the number one piece of emphasis on that fight needs to be the churches.

Speaker 1 If the churches can't speak out on this issue, then there is no chance that you could stop it, especially though, though, in a lower turnout-type election.

Speaker 1 That's where churches can mobilize and can make up some of that difference. You are correct.
We do not yet have full-time staff or any presence in Virginia at turning point action.

Speaker 1 We might expand, but understand, every organization has to know their limitations, know where they're best positioned. Arizona has been obviously a major focus of ours.

Speaker 1 We're keeping an eye on Virginia. I certainly hope there's a good senatorial candidate coming.
I would love to see Glenn Young run for Senate in 2026.

Speaker 1 But more importantly, we do have tools that you and Virginia can use. You can use the Turning Point Action app.
You could do a Commit 100. You can use some of our training.

Speaker 1 So there's a lot that is still available for you, but we are contemplating getting involved in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Speaker 1 Kendra, really quick, do you believe that Virginia could turn into a red state presidentially?

Speaker 3 Yes, I do.

Speaker 9 The area that I'm in, so much of the areas that we found are

Speaker 9 very red. In fact, I worked in the polls as an election worker, and I was told that our area is heavily Democratic.
And I looked afterward, and all the Republicans on the slate won our area by a lot.

Speaker 9 So I was very pleased about that.

Speaker 1 I think you're right. Again, I don't want to get too bullish.
on it, but the trend is our friend in Virginia.

Speaker 3 It really is.

Speaker 1 But Kendra, do not give up on the fight for life. It is incredibly important.
I know that people want to ignore it and they don't want to fight for it, but lean in.

Speaker 1 I'm glad you're hosting Seth and hold the line. Seriously, God bless you for that.
And thank you, Kendra, for being a member.

Speaker 9 Thanks so much. God bless.

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Okay, we continue with the Hillsdale test.

Speaker 1 Just a reminder: normal people take the Hillsdale online courses and then do the quizzes. Blake does the quizzes because he was uploaded with a bizarre amount of information in utero about Rome.

Speaker 1 It's charlieforhillsdale.com. The courses are amazing.
I am going to try to have Blake take some of the courses because I don't know if you could do this with every topic.

Speaker 3 Probably not.

Speaker 1 Like Like the Jane Austen one. I don't know.
You haven't read Jane Austen yet.

Speaker 3 I got to get on that.

Speaker 1 The Euclidean geometry, you might be able to do it. Okay.

Speaker 1 So let's use this as a chance to educate around this. The Tribune of the Plebs,

Speaker 3 did I say that correctly?

Speaker 1 Had the power to blank. First, what is the Tribune of the Plebs?

Speaker 3 Tribune of the Plebs was

Speaker 3 an office created. They kind of had this thing called the Struggle of Orders in Rome because they had patricians who were the elite, the noble class, and then you had the plebs, ordinary people.

Speaker 3 And the Tribune, they were kind of an office that was created after the plebs revolted a few too many times and they would demand more rights and the tribune he the big thing that he could do is or a few things one he was personally inviolable so he was you could not touch a tribune I believe I think it was a death penalty offense to harm a tribune basically

Speaker 3 and then they could veto legislation veto literally means that's one of the options they could veto it literally means I forbid and they could just say veto and kill a bill and then if they're looking for something else.

Speaker 1 Did they have the ability to convene the People's Assembly?

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, they could do that too.

Speaker 1 Okay, so would you say then convene People's Assembly and veto bills? Yes, that's one of the options.

Speaker 3 Okay, we'll go with that. Okay, very good.

Speaker 1 Number seven, I have to, this is a fill-in-the-blank. The blank was a ladder of offices through which Roman citizens.

Speaker 3 Cursusonorum or honorum or however you want to say that.

Speaker 1 Okay, why don't you have to say the options?

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly. Okay.
Well, they already said it in the quiz.

Speaker 1 The power to conduct foreign diplomacy for

Speaker 1 the Roman Republic.

Speaker 3 Russian Republic. That would be crazy.

Speaker 1 For the Roman Republic resided with the blank.

Speaker 3 That would be the Senate. Like, the Senate would declare war.
The consuls would command the army, but it wasn't like us where the president

Speaker 3 does these things. It would be that the Senate would send ambassadors.

Speaker 1 They would reply to things. And now, just to remind the audience, this was before...
the transition from the republic to a dictatorship.

Speaker 3 So dictatorship was an office that the Roman Republic

Speaker 1 for military purposes, right?

Speaker 3 So what would happen is the dictator was like an emergency, the consul they had two consuls, and they could each over, like they couldn't override the other.

Speaker 3 And so when there was a super big emergency, the Romans would declare a dictator where it was basically only one. He would supersede the consuls, and his word was law.

Speaker 3 It could only go for six months, and at the end of it, he would have to answer for anything he did. But he basically had absolute power for six months.
And they would use this for emergencies.

Speaker 3 Julius Caesar did declare himself dictator for life. They got a little stabby-stabby towards him for that.

Speaker 1 And then on the Ides of March.

Speaker 3 Yes, and then a lot happened in the 15 years after that, and it ends with the Empire. And it was kind of a constitutional fiction that they created first.

Speaker 3 So it's sort of a process where Rome gets it becomes an empire in fact, and then it becomes more and more and more.

Speaker 3 In Augustus, so like Augustus, he just called himself first citizen, and he was the emperor because he just...

Speaker 1 Was he the nephew of Julius Caesar?

Speaker 3 He was the adopt.

Speaker 3 i think he was the biological nephew and adopted son i know enough to be dangerous uh charlieforhillsdale.com you'd say the senate would be there yeah yeah just a reminder guys go to charliekirkstore.com to get these uh beautiful hats charliekirkstore.com the kids love these hats charliekirkstore.com yeah i was telling charlie before i looked up who the 47th emperor was and it's not easy to say who the 47th is because there's co-emperors but the best answer i think is diocletian which if you look him up uh he is a very important reformer emperor There was a giant crisis.

Speaker 3 The empire was falling apart. And he is the one who restored stability.
He also persecuted Christians a lot. We don't agree with that part of it.
Bad. But that was bad.
That was bad. Don't do that.

Speaker 3 But he did a lot of other things.

Speaker 1 He was Merrick Garland in that way.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 1 I want to get to these two more questions here.

Speaker 1 Polybius argues that the primary flaw of the Roman Constitution Is it true or false? Was that it impeded decisive and prompt action when it was needed?

Speaker 3 False, because he thought that was one of the things that was good about it, is that it had a deliberative aspect, but when there was an emergency, it could supply decisive action.

Speaker 1 Rome's mixed constitution created a system of checks whereby each part of the regime could prevent the others from becoming too strong or independent because no part of the regime was blank.

Speaker 1 I can read the options.

Speaker 3 Yeah, read the options on that one.

Speaker 1 Capable of conducting foreign affairs, in control of the military, self-sufficient, or in charge of public finances?

Speaker 3 I think they're going for self-sufficient on that one.

Speaker 1 We can pause if you want to.

Speaker 3 Let's do self-sufficient because that's the last question, right?

Speaker 1 Okay, just to say, Rome's mixed constitution created a system of checks whereby each part of the regime could prevent others from becoming too strong or independent because no part of the regime was self-sufficient.

Speaker 3 I want to know before we get back. Did I get them all?

Speaker 1 We're about to find out. 100%.
Yes. But you got to do it again.

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Speaker 1 Thomas is next. Thomas, thank you for being a member.
Where are you from? What's on your mind?

Speaker 9 Hi, Charlene.

Speaker 10 I'm from New Jersey. So I'm a 19-year-old conservative pop music artist.
I want to be able to share my views and build my brand around that.

Speaker 10 But I find it very hard in a liberal industry with Chapel Roan and Charlie XCX.

Speaker 10 And I've always been told, oh, you gotta... push your music towards the LGBTQ community, which I thought's ridiculous.

Speaker 10 So my question is, how can I be a like mega conservative pop star when I have everything going against me?

Speaker 1 Well, you have the population going for your member. What side won the popular vote? So, I mean, it might feel as if everything's against you in your current industry right now, but

Speaker 1 I could tell you that you could definitely become very popular. Now, I will tell you, I want to thank you for being a member, and I'd love to listen to your music.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'd like it or not, but no offense to you. I just don't know if I like the genre.

Speaker 1 My team trolls me all the time. I don't know who Charlie XCS is or Chappelle Rowan.

Speaker 1 Do you know who these people are? I've heard them. Which Roman Emperor was Chappelle Rowan?

Speaker 3 Admittedly, I can't help you on that one. It's a joke.
Charlie XCX, that could be like a very late stage.

Speaker 1 That's like a late stage Roman Emperor.

Speaker 3 Charles X, Charles X. That could be like a

Speaker 3 French emperor.

Speaker 1 Put up Chappelle Rowan on screen. Do you know who Chappelle Rowan is?

Speaker 3 Let me see. What is that? That does look like a piece of Renaissance art.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with French French monitoring. Thomas, do you know who Chappelle Rowan is?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I bet your music's better.

Speaker 1 She has a song called Pink Pony Club. Daisy says you would hate it.
I'm sure I would.

Speaker 1 Look, if you love the craft, man, lean into it, dedicate your life to it. Don't let anybody get in your way.
Do what you believe is right. Art needs to glorify the highest good.

Speaker 1 The reason why music largely is terrible the last 20 years, it's not pointing towards anything.

Speaker 1 It's pointing towards self-indulgence, it's pointing towards licentiousness, it's pointing towards narcissism. All art, all inquiry points towards some good.
What is that from Blake?

Speaker 3 Aristotle's ethics.

Speaker 1 It points, it puts everything in line, and Aristotle's exactly right. Everything you do, every action, every inquiry, every art, every good points towards some good.

Speaker 1 It points towards what your definition of good is. And there is only one objective definition of good.

Speaker 1 So the point being is, if you're going to be in Pop Start, do something that points towards the divine, towards the beautiful, not just towards rubbish like Chappelle Rowan. Thanks, man.

Speaker 1 Hope to meet you soon. And please send me your, they call it a mixtape still.

Speaker 1 Please send me your playlist. Thanks, man.

Speaker 10 Thank you, Kylie.

Speaker 1 Joni, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind?

Speaker 11 Hey, Charlie. Hey, Blake.
The 47 hats look great. Aren't they great?

Speaker 11 Yeah, they are. I can't wait to wear mine.

Speaker 1 And it's charliekirkstore.com.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I purchased one, so I know you're sending them out, So I can't wait to receive it and wear it. Anyway, my questions are around election integrity.
And I'm from Orange County.

Speaker 11 I know you're in Arizona. We probably share the same frustrations with the long counting process.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 I observed in the polls, and then I also observed the counting in the Orange County

Speaker 11 registrars of voters

Speaker 11 just watching the ballots and watching a couple seats get turned over um from red to blue with all the mail-in ballots and and the provisional ballots so i guess my question is um i think i saw your your governor recently reject implementing some of the the florida uh voting process oh yeah and so wonderful katie hobby

Speaker 11 yeah yeah katie hobbs well well for

Speaker 11 about that and then what's next and if President Trump

Speaker 11 and or Doge have any plans of cleaning up voter rolls and ending ending this long

Speaker 11 process of counting

Speaker 11 ballots after

Speaker 11 Election Day?

Speaker 1 So, yes, a couple things on that. The problem is the federal government does not have as much authority or jurisdiction over this as you might think.
So, let me read my X on this, if that's okay.

Speaker 1 Katie Hobbs just vetoed HB 2703, a bill that would have guaranteed Arizonans who would know the winner on the night of the election.

Speaker 1 Arizona's been the laughingstock of national politics because it it takes three to four weeks to deliver a final canvas, and Arizona's Democrat governor just vetoed it, as you say.

Speaker 1 We must become a state that will settle for this. And here's my unfortunate, but actually also fortunate, because I think we can do it.

Speaker 1 This has to be a state-led thing. This is not going to happen from the feds.
It has to be a state-led thing. And so

Speaker 1 we have to

Speaker 1 say

Speaker 1 that we're going to win the states from the bottom up and engage the grassroots. So that's the best answer I have.
And hopefully we can pass the Save Act.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Vernon is next.
Vernon, what's on your mind? Hey, Charlie, first time on the show live,

Speaker 12 actually listening to the show live. So excited that I got to talk to you.

Speaker 12 Quick question.

Speaker 12 I'm interested in your opinion on this third term project that showed up at CPAC this week,

Speaker 12 you know, purporting to allow President Trump to run again. I'm, from my kind of libertarian sort of roots, kind of fundamentally against it, but I'd like to see term limits for all elected officials.

Speaker 12 But just wondering, you know, if you could give your context and thoughts on it.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 as far as Trump's third term, is that Dasey, we were talking about?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's constitutional. I'm open and willing to hear any and all arguments.

Speaker 3 Blake, what,

Speaker 1 if any, would the argument be that Trump could run for a third term?

Speaker 1 Let's just read it constitutionally. What is the amendment 22?

Speaker 3 I think it's the 23rd.

Speaker 1 22, 22. So let's read this, okay? And

Speaker 3 let's hear this out, okay?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 any argument, we're going to hear out. No president shall be elected to the office of president more than twice.

Speaker 1 And no person who has held the office of president or has acted as president for more than two years of a term, which some other person was elected president shall be elected to the office of president more than once.

Speaker 1 And then it goes on to

Speaker 3 basically doesn't apply to Trump. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it does say, I mean, it's,

Speaker 1 they would say it's not two consecutive terms. It does not mention consecutive anything here.
It says no person shall be elected to the office more than twice.

Speaker 3 Sometimes people will say, sometimes people will speculate you could do something like you could elect him vice president, and then

Speaker 3 but then what it says is like no one who is ineligible to the office of president can be elected vice president.

Speaker 3 Sometimes people will come up with, I think it's a cop-out where they'll say, well, eligibility only means things like they can't be from, you know, born in a foreign country.

Speaker 3 They can't be below the age. And like this is something else.
I'll be honest. I think those are all massive cop-outs.
Like we passed this bill because FDR made himself president more than two terms.

Speaker 3 We thought that was a bad precedent that we shouldn't repeat. That's exactly right.
So,

Speaker 3 you know, only can go two terms. And I think if they try to get around that, it would be unconstitutional.
This happens every time a president.

Speaker 1 I'm Trump's biggest fan. And I mean, if he's popular and if it's constitutional, fine, serve a third term.
I just want to, I'm just reading the law because we're.

Speaker 3 And this happens every time a president gets re-elected. You know, Bush, someone proposed, like, oh, let's get rid of the term limits for Bush.

Speaker 3 Obama, Democrats said, let's get rid of limits for Obama. This happens.
It's understandable. We like our guy.
But we did pass this for a reason. In 1951.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and the text of the Constitution is can't be president more than twice.

Speaker 3 And in the long run, I think that's a good practice to have because what, as we'll see with Rome, what undoes any republic is the idea that one person is just totally indispensable to it.

Speaker 1 By the way, all of you guys, this is one of the reasons why you should support Turning Point USA. You should have this Constitution with you at all times.
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 It has all of the extra facts on it.

Speaker 1 Again, I am open to any argument always, but help me understand: is there wiggle room in the statement, no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice?

Speaker 1 It does not strike me. Now, if it said that no person shall be elected to

Speaker 1 like consecutive terms, it's just none of that is there. All right, thank you.
Let's go to the next question. Scott, Scott, what is on your mind? Members.charliekirk.com.

Speaker 13 Yeah. Hi, Charlie.
Thank you.

Speaker 13 First off, I want to publicly thank President Trump for signing the executive order keeping education accessible and ending the COVID-19 vaccine mandates in schools.

Speaker 13 But I'm not sure if the president or if other people are aware of what's been happening in California since 2016.

Speaker 13 Governor Jerry Brown passed a bill, the SB 277, which removed personal belief or religious belief as a reason to be exempted from vaccines in order to enter school.

Speaker 13 So my question is, do you see Trump doing the same thing for all vaccines? Because the rationale inside of that executive order,

Speaker 13 the language used is pretty compelling. It's talking about children being coerced to take a shot and conditioning their education on it, parents being,

Speaker 13 and how parents should be empowered, free to make their own decisions.

Speaker 13 And so, this is this is critical because, as RFK Jr. has stated, there are no pre-licensure double-blind placebo tests for any of the vaccines out there.

Speaker 13 And so, I'm not comfortable injecting my two boys with aborted fetal tissue and no neural toxins

Speaker 13 without that 100% assurance that they'll be okay, along with the $5 billion paid out to the vaccine injury compensation programs. So my question is,

Speaker 13 do you see him actually moving just beyond COVID-19 and going to all vaccines and giving Californians, and I know Colorado and Hawaii have a similar thing, but giving Californians the right to go back to school and not being forced out of school?

Speaker 1 It's a really thoughtful question. Just so you know, producer Andrew is dealing with something very similar right now.

Speaker 1 I don't want to out him too much, but he's saying this ferociously in the chat, which is, okay, he said it's, okay, he said he's dealing it with his son and daughter right now.

Speaker 1 He can't use religious exemptions. They're demanding the full schedule every single shot.
And so, look,

Speaker 1 we have to be level-headed about this. Like, do we want to have

Speaker 1 MMR breakouts in schools? Probably not. At the same time, if you don't have a hepatitis B vaccine, you're not allowed into elementary school.
That's insane.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm sorry, that's technically on the schedule. And they're literally at a place now where if you don't have the COVID shot, they're not allowing kids into these schools.

Speaker 1 And so I think there's some middle ground where there could be a kind of a core schedule that might be necessary for certain schools, but religious exemptions used to be a thing in California, and they've completely clamped down on them.

Speaker 1 So I think that it's something Bobby Kennedy needs to address completely and thoroughly.

Speaker 13 Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 13 It's forcing a lot of families out of school.

Speaker 1 Well, and that's the thing is that

Speaker 1 we are quickly heading towards vaccinated and unvaccinated schools. That's where this is going to head.

Speaker 3 That is that direction.

Speaker 1 All right. Thank you, man.
Really good question.

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Speaker 1 Blake, I don't know if we can get through a whole nother quiz in two minutes.

Speaker 3 Up to you. Or we could just go after.

Speaker 1 We could.

Speaker 1 I got something else to do.

Speaker 1 According to Dr. Calvert, which

Speaker 1 is a very difficult question, the ideal Roman was what? And there's like many options. Was it a farmer, lawyer, or you have to know this historian, so this is not a fair question, right?

Speaker 3 So is he the guy like in the lectures? Yeah, I mean, I assume he's probably thinking like, if you're thinking the ideal abstract Roman, he'd be like a citizen farmer.

Speaker 1 Okay, so yeah, so a citizen farmer warrior? Yeah, yeah, that would be like if you get this wrong, I won't hold that.

Speaker 3 That'd be like Cincinnatus, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Order of Cincinnati, Washington was part of that, wasn't he?

Speaker 3 Order of the Cincinnati, Society of the Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 That's where we get the town Cincinnati from, right?

Speaker 3 Okay,

Speaker 1 if you get that wrong, I don't think, I don't think that's fair. The top of the Roman social order was the what class?

Speaker 3 Patricians.

Speaker 1 The struggle of the orders encompassed a period of about 200 years during which the plebeians demanded that the patriarchs give them greater social political true, true.

Speaker 3 Going fast.

Speaker 1 Blank was celebrated as one of the great models of Roman citizenship for keeping invading the Etruscan forces from crossing the sublime. Horatius.

Speaker 3 Horatius Coccalis. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know his full name. Horatius at the Bridge.
The great poem. Read it.

Speaker 1 The Blank is the highest religious position in the Roman Republic.

Speaker 3 Pontifex Maximus. That's why the Roman Pope is called the Pontifex Maximus.

Speaker 1 The evocatio was an ancient Roman prayer that asked what?

Speaker 3 It was this, like, funny prayer they would do where they would a like if they were attacking an enemy city, they would pray, like, hey, gods of the other people, you should come be our gods instead.

Speaker 3 And so then if they won.

Speaker 1 For foreign peoples to abandon their gods and turn to Rome?

Speaker 3 I think it was foreign gods to abandon.

Speaker 3 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, really quick. Lucitius, Lu Lucius, Quintitius Cincinnatus, is is remembered as a great hero of Rome because he what?

Speaker 3 Because he was dictator and he handed the power back. Like, he left his farm, won a battle, and then quit.
Like, that was the Roman.

Speaker 1 Refused the office of dictator and continued.

Speaker 3 Not refused. He became dictator, but then he forfeited it voluntarily.

Speaker 3 Like, he resigned after 15 years. Yeah, that would.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to choose that one, though. I mean, it defeated the Aquaon, surrender dictatorial power after 15 years.

Speaker 3 15 days. 15 days.

Speaker 1 You like that one? Yeah. Okay, so he defeated and surrendered.
Okay. In the early Republic, a dictator was a what?

Speaker 3 A dictator was someone elected to emergency powers. Yep, that's right.

Speaker 1 At the battles of Herculia and Aesulium, Aesculum and Heraclea. Yeah, Pyrrhus.

Speaker 3 Pyrrhus of Epirus.

Speaker 3 Pyrrhic victory. He won, but lost a lot of dudes and then said he could not keep fighting the Romans because if he won too many battles, he would lose his war.

Speaker 1 The Romans had conquered most of the Italian peninsula by what year?

Speaker 3 They'd done most of it, but. Oh, yeah, they defeated the Greeks like like 275.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was 270 BC.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that sounds about right.

Speaker 1 Blake got 100%. Charlie for Hillsdale.com.
Okay, let's go to Zane. Zane, thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind? Zane, the floor is yours.

Speaker 3 Yes. Hello.
I'm 20 years old, and I have a lot of younger friends, and I'm wondering how to get them involved in like politics.

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, glad you're involved with being a member. Get them involved with Turning Point USA, especially.

Speaker 1 You know, being a young patriot is super important and have community, communication, and it's always helpful to meet with regularity.

Speaker 1 And yeah, look, that's what Turning Point USA strives to do is to build these kind of relationships, build these kind of gatherings. We'd love to help you in any way possible.
Thank you so much, man.

Speaker 1 Last question of the day. Thank you.
Shannon. Shannon, thank you for being a member.
You're the last question. Let's bring it home.

Speaker 14 Hi, Charlie. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 Yes. How are you?

Speaker 14 I'm well, thank you.

Speaker 14 I'm a teacher in Western New York and just wondering what, so what happens if they do eliminate the Department of Education, like in a blue state like mine, where right now I have more trust in the federal government than I do in the terrible leadership here in my state?

Speaker 1 Smart question.

Speaker 1 To be honest, it's going to empower your state even more. And that's just the sad truth.

Speaker 3 It's a valid concern because the best thing the Department of Education has currently is

Speaker 3 they have the civil rights office where they can say you're discriminating against white kids or whatever. And

Speaker 3 I'd hope that we can get rid of the Department of Education, but move that to the DOJ because that law still has. 100%.

Speaker 1 I will say, Blake is exactly right, that functionally, the ability to enforce and police anti-white discrimination, that will go to the Department of Justice. I will say, what state do you live in?

Speaker 3 Western New York. Oh, sorry.

Speaker 1 I didn't internalize that. So, yes, that is an unintended.
Not unintended, but that's just the reality of it. But you could also vote with your feet.

Speaker 1 I know that sounds terrible because I don't like telling telling people to leave their homes, but the federalized Department of Education has done such damage, declining test scores, massive administration.

Speaker 1 And let me just tell you one number that Dr. Larry Arn told us on our show, which everyone should commit to memory.
You ready for this?

Speaker 1 There are 23 million people that work for the government in America. 11 million of them are in education.
Only 6.7 million of them are teachers.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 That's Dr. Larry Arnold on our show.

Speaker 3 4.3 million administrators.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so no, no, no, no, so 6.7 million of them. Let me look at this right.

Speaker 3 It was 11, 6.7 million.

Speaker 1 So 6.7 million are administrators.

Speaker 3 Holy cow. So more of them than

Speaker 1 teachers.

Speaker 1 That's according to Dr. Larry Arn.
So that means that the majority of education spending goes towards paper pushers and permanent bureaucracy. Again, that's Dr.
Larry Arn's numbers.

Speaker 1 I trust him, and he's a serious guy. And, I mean, it just goes to show, what has the Department of Education done? It's the Department of Paper Pushing Administration of what it's become.

Speaker 1 Thank you for becoming a member. You're great, Shannon, and hope to see you soon.
Thank you.

Speaker 14 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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