Ask Charlie Anything 211: Austrian Economics? Colorado, Hopeful or Hopeless? Gaza Annexation?

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And it's kind of an ask me anything, very similar to what we do on college campuses. The questions aren't as but it's really fun let's go to trey uh trey thank you for being a member members dot charlie kirk.com what's on your mind hey charlie how are you my friend good thank you good um so i'm the chapter president for the university of south carolina right and two years ago you said to the field rep uh dylan baldassar, that Clunston was going to beat Carolina, but I don't think that's what happened back in November.
Well, you were right. Yep.
That's right. I'd like an in-person apology.
If it works out, I'd like an in-person apology as well. Yeah, so someone in the chat said it's the Peacocks, no, it's the Gamecocks.
So happy to apologize when I'm wrong. That is sure.
How are things on campus, by the way? Is it telting more liberal? Talk about, are you seeing a lot more pro-conservative energy on campus? Give us kind of a vibe check on campus. You know, we're definitely seeing a lot of, we're definitely seeing a lot more conservatives.
We just had a, well, we just had our third meeting already this past Wednesday, and we're having bigger turnouts every single meeting. So it's looking great at Carolina, for sure.
I love it. All right.
So any other things on your mind, Trey? Questions, things I can answer? And thank you for being a member, of course. Deeply appreciate that.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
i just i was just curious are you familiar with data republican at all oh not only am i familiar we just did a whole show on her last night on thought crime and i i speak to her regularly and also she uh she's incredibly bright uh she was our kind of our silent helper on election night uh and the that were coming into election day. Three weeks ahead of the election, she was looking at all the early voting data.
And I was in this chat with her, and she said, Trump is going to win Nevada. Trump's going to win Pennsylvania.
Trump's going to win Michigan. I'm calling it right now.
And that was three weeks ahead of time, just looking at the early voting data. And I was like, that's pretty bold.
And she, she, she predicted down to the margin that Trump was going to win by very, very remarkable, impressive stuff. She is super bright.
She's deaf. Not that that matters.
And I just, I think, I think the world of her, she's terrific. So any thought on that, Anthony, a trade, the reason you bring it up? Yeah.
So my dad sent me a link for data Republican the other day, pretty much going over where, um, where all the money is going as far as, you know, like all where all of our taxpayer dollars are going and funneling back into, uh, Linton's. So, and's just disgusting i gotta say like i was honestly sick to my stomach after reading you know benny johnson's post about you know 40 million dollars going to uh wuhan like we were talking about two weeks ago with the fauci pardon and uh it was just it was it got me sick to my stomach and just yesterday uh congresswoman Nancy Mace announced that apparently 10 million dollars were going to funding transgender animals because why not um so I'm just I'm just curious where are we gonna see what's the possibility we're going to see a clawback for taxpayer dollars that have been wasted through USA? I mean, this is ridiculous.
Yeah, it's a great question. So the first point we have to we have to find an answer.
And I have data Republican working on this. Did Congress underwrite it or did Congress appropriate it? And if the answer is yes, then the clawback is harder, but we could do that through the reconciliation process.
Chances are that a lot of this was left at the discretion of USAID or the agency, meaning that the USAID got a bucket of money from Congress, let's say $25 billion, and they could spend it on whatever they want. If that's the case, then we can totally cut these contracts.
We can cut them off and we can spend it wherever we want. We could spend it either on deportations.
We could spend it on aid to 501c3s that we want to assist, colleges, or we don't have to spend it all and just send it back to

Congress. And that's kind of the question of the looming impoundment act issue that is going to be coming around the corner.
So I feel very optimistic that we're going to be able to cut this spending. In fact, President Trump just had an amazing dialogue with the Japanese prime minister and basically said, look, USAID is the most disgusting waste I've ever seen.
We're going to get rid of it. We're going to cut it and we're going to get rid of the entire department.
So Trey, thank you for being a member of Turning Point USA. And thanks for your question.
Really appreciate it. Absolutely.
Thank you, Charlie. Have a good day.
Thank you, Anthony. Thanks for being a member.
What's on your mind? Hey, what's going on? Oh, I see you called my name earlier while you're talking to Trey. Sorry.
I was reading it on the thing here. It's no worries, but I got to tell Trey one thing.
I'm sorry that my bulldogs beat your game cocks. It's just, you know, being a Georgia guy.
So, so I got a question for you and I've noticed this in readings. I've been seeing all of a sudden California is L.A.
wildfires, you can rebuild, but you can't rebuild like you used to.

You must follow new climate orders.

How is that allowed, especially when California politicians really didn't do anything to help prevent these fires?

How can you tell a person that they must rebuild like this when they didn't they cause more problems?

The leaders. Yeah.
Look, I want to just explain how underwater this situation has made some people. So one person who's on our team, you all know who it is, but I'm not going to say her name to respect her privacy.
Her house burned down in the Palisades and she had a very, very tough year. And so I'll just approximate some of these numbers.
Let's just say the house was worth five or six million as it was built but then you have a mortgage for like 1.2 million 1.5 million and then insurance comes and says we're only going to write you a check for a million bucks so you're underwater with the mortgage before you even get out of the gate when you talk to a subcontractor they say it's going to take three to five years to rebuild the home and so by the time with inflation that million dollars is going to be worth like 10 percent low you know you know eight to ten percent less every year hopefully trump gets it under control and so you're completely screwed basically and again some people say oh you know woe is me it's an upper middle class you know very wealthy area these are these people's livelihoods i know another family in the palisades that had a 15 million dollar home they had a seven million dollar mortgage and the insurance says they'll write them a check for four million bucks i mean just completely underwater yeah it's totally underwater and so i just hope you guys all understand god forbid your house ever gets chronically flooded or burnt down you need to read and reread your insurance policies because you could get totally screwed you might think oh the house is insured well it's insured for rebuild costs if you're able to rebuild it, which then takes another three to five years, and we're supposed to live in the meantime. And then on top of it, you have the California environmental fanaticism that's going to slow this down.
Gavin Newsom has put lip service saying, oh, we're going to make it easier and we're going to streamline processes. That's a bunch of rubbish.
And so you basically have 10,000, 15,000 people that are without a home for the next half of a decade, and their entire piggy bank, their net worth, has completely disappeared. And investors are going to be far less likely to go build and to develop in that area because they might completely lose their development.
I could tell you on firsthand authority, the housing market in Scottsdale, in Orange County, in Vegas, has skyrocketed in the last couple of weeks. People are leaving the Palisades.
They're leaving Los Angeles, and they're bringing their capital with them in a very serious way. Great question, Anthony.
We must not forget the people that have lost their homes in North Carolina, lost their homes in Georgia. And the one in California, though, is so upside down because of the environmentalism and also how hard it is to build there.
It's just awful. Right, and that was where I asked you because the state didn't do anything to help stop this.
Correct. And then I have another question, but I can email that one to you, which I'll do.
Yeah, email. I want to get to some other ones.
Anthony, thanks so much. Talk to you soon.
Appreciate it. Thank you for being a member.
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Jay is a member. Jay, thank you for being a member.
What is on your mind? Yeah, I just think Elon is doing such a great job and the left is just after him. And I'm just worried that they they might get him out i mean what are the chances that that he would they they'll be they'll succeed well i don't think they're going to be successful the knives are definitely out for elon within the media and within all the haters but elon i think has great staying.
Him and the president have a phenomenal relationship.

And Elon is working at such a breakneck pace. And he's hard to fire.
He's not just a volunteer. He's a donor.
He's given $300 million for this cause. And so I love seeing what Elon is doing.
I think it's profound and really awesome. I know it's amazing what he's done with USAID.
I had no idea the amount of fraud that was there.

And just to expose that in one week, that's amazing. That's right.
And just he's one of

the most impactful figures in American history, incredibly selfless. And people think, well,

it's all about him. OK, but what does he do with his money? He doesn't buy yachts or spend vacation.

He's living literally in the Eisenhower executive office building right now, sleeping on couches

where he could literally buy countries. He's so wealthy and he's worth $450 billion.
And what does he do with his time? He does it. He finds these team of geniuses to reform the government for the people.
I have incredible admiration for Elon Musk. I truly do.
All right. Thank you for the question.
Really appreciate it. Let's go here to Caleb.
Caleb, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? Hey, Charlie.
How are you? Thanks for having me on. I love the blazer.
Thank you. Thank you.
Hey, yeah, I'm 17 from upstate New York. I followed your podcast for a while now.
It's added a lot of value to my life. I lean heavily libertarian, like aligned closely with the Austrian school of thought.
And from my understanding, you used to be in a similar position. What sparked that change and what brought you to the opinions that you hold now? Yeah, it's a phenomenal question.
First and foremost, it's hard to disagree with the philosophy or the abstractions of Austrian economics. It sounds really good.
I mean, you read Ludwig von Mises, you read Murray Rothbard, you read Hayek, you read Henry Hazlitt. A lot of the foundational observations that they make are, of course, correct.
But then we start to observe in actuality what's happening in our country. So, for example, the Austrian School of Economics thinks that there was nothing wrong.
In fact, everything really good about sending American manufacturing jobs to China. They say, well, it's the lowest cost of good.
Those people in Ohio and Pennsylvania can go find other work. Americans get piles of plastic that they otherwise would not be able to get at a low cost.
And there we go. And I think that's an incredibly myopic, limited view of American culture, of how a country is formulated.
What's great about Austrian economics is it's mostly grounded in common sense. It's not convoluted models.
They basically have one common baseline proposition that people respond to incentives. And their takes on monetary policy are phenomenal.
But sometimes they can get a bit too binary about things, a bit too black and white. And of course, we love the free market and we think it's beautiful.
But I don't think it's beautiful when I drive through rural America and they've been vastly de-industrialized and we've been told that's a good thing. I don't think it's a good thing where we have everyone just flee to urban centers and the small town communities that we're focused on faith and family are good.
And finally, the last thing on Austrian economics that I would mention is that embedded within Austro economics is no borders. It's a core pillar.
Allow anybody to come into your country under any circumstances at any time, and the prevention or limitation of

such people into your country is an act of violence and is an act of the state. And so

they believe in pure immigration arbitrage, which is a core pillar of libertarian philosophy.

And I'd also say Austrian economics don't always see the value that there is merit to having a

Thank you. which is a core pillar of libertarian philosophy.
And I'd also say Austrian economics don't always see the value that there is merit to having a diverse economy or having America diversified in certain sectors. And so what are your thoughts on that, Caleb? I know that I talked ad nauseum there.
No, you're good. That's really solid.
Yeah, the only thing maybe about would be on immigration. And from what I've heard from, I don't know if you follow the Mises Institute.
They got good podcasts and stuff like that. In one of them, they explained the libertarian perspective on immigration and how while they would want to have a free flow of labor, so to speak, they do understand the political and cultural limitations to that and thus understand that you have to have borders.
Well, that's promising. That is a huge development because that never used to be the case.
If you look at pure libertarianism at the Cato Institute, that has never been their perspective. Caleb, you're very thoughtful.
I'm going to recommend a book for you that you're going to love. Read Russell Kirk on conservatism.
You'll love it. It might change your life.
Awesome. Thank you so much.
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Kevin, what is on your mind? Hey, Charlie. Thanks for everything you do, man.
Thank you. My wife and I are Colorado natives.
We've seen our state go downhill in the last 50 years with the woke mind virus, if you know what I mean. It's sad to see but we still live in a beautiful wonderful state um we're we're uh pretty angry about the incident that happened yesterday but with the mass deportations and all two questions related the same thing related to the missing children um what's what's the best way to keep up to date on locating all the missing children, the location of all the missing children? We haven't heard much about it.
I know it's happening. I know they're going after them.
They're trying to find them. But that's been on our hearts quite a bit lately.
And then the second part of the question is the Denver Aurora incident. Any idea who from the government tipped them off and what do you think they're going to be doing about it? Yeah, we just had Tom Holman on the program last hour.
Great question, Kevin. And he says they think they know who leaked it and it's being dealt with.
I would like to see criminal charges given against these people. Definitely at least their pension will be taken away and they will no longer work at the agency.
But I think it's time to put these people in federal prison. What they just did was actively aid and abet an enemy in the United States.
There's a big there's a big T word for that. That's treason.
And so I think that we we need to do anything that the law allows to be able to go after these illegal leakers and people that have been doing this. Second, on the first part of your question, there's an entire task force, Kristi Noem, we have Tom Homan, that are all coming together to find these missing kids and to get them back to their parents or to better hands or to find out what's going on.
Are they sex slaves? Are they child prostitutes? We don't know and we definitely need to find out. Thank you so much, man, for being a member.
And finally, let me just say, you are right. Colorado is one of the most beautiful states in the country.
It's top five for sure. I would love to live in Colorado if it wasn't for your maniac politics.
I'm going to say something that might trouble you. I've said this before.
I'm actually more optimistic about where California is trending

versus then where Colorado is trending.

People disagree with that.

Would you agree with that, Kevin?

I don't know.

My wife's here.

She agrees with it.

She pays a lot more closer attention than I do.

It's just so frustrating to see and hear everything that's going on. But I think we need to pray more for our children, for these missing children, for American missing children.
We, my wife and I have been led to really see what we can do in our, in our state, in our country, in our world, with regards to this sick, dark world that these children, unfortunately, get trapped into. And it's just sickening.
And we do know it's going on in our state. It's the darkest of the dark, in my opinion.
It's just horrific. And what did Christ our Lord say? Let one of those who lay a hand on a children better to have a millstone hung around their neck than to come after the least of these.
God bless you, man. Thank you very much.
Okay, Mason. Thank you.
Mason is next. Mason, thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind? Hey, Charlie. Thanks so much for letting me a part of the show.
Absolutely. What is on your mind? So I've been a Trump supporter through and through.
I was at one of the first rallies back before the 2016 election, and I just loved seeing everything that he's doing. But one of the things that I was concerned about and that I've seen other Trump supporters concerned about is his intention to take over Gaza.
Two of his biggest talking points were, you know, no new wars in the last election, and then America first. And so like, even though I think Gaza could be a good idea down the road, it just seems, you know, so early in the presidency to be talking about spending American potentially lives and tax dollars on another nation.
So I just want to see like, what's your perspective on this? And, you know, how do we find common ground between the two camps of conservatives over this issue? Great question. So we did a whole show on this earlier in the week.
I'm going to answer your question. I just want if you want to go really deep on that, I encourage you to look at it.
We did a show right out of the gate. Number one, we now know that President Trump has said no U.S.
troops. And we don't want to leap to conclusions too quickly about Trump's plans.
He's unpredictable in the best possible way. His unpredictability is why he's a master genius at this stuff.
The core thing is this. We're not going to get American soldiers killed to occupy Gaza, period.
The president has reiterated that. Caroline Levitt has reiterated that.
That's not going to happen. He said we're going to work with regional partners and not use U.S.
money. What he's basically talking about is he wants America to be the metaphorical chairman of the board of this newly constituted deal.
He's going to kind of call the shots. Saudi Arabia, you do this.
Jordan, you do that. By owning Gaza, I think it's becoming more and more clear what the president was saying is a metaphorical own of Gaza, meaning we're going to expand the Abraham Accords.
We are going to make sure that regional partners actually accept the people of Gaza. But let me make clear what the stance on this program is, because we want peace in all places.
But the number one and number two clear red lines that we've said that, by the way, are not even red lines because the president has said this and agrees with us. So we're not like in opposition.
We're actually in harmony with the president is not a single person from Gaza comes to the United States of America. And secondly, no U.S.
troops. And if there is a third, allow Israel to completely destroy Hamas.
Give them the green light to go do that. Understand that the president has said that we need to be open for a total reset of Gaza.
We cannot rewind to 2019 with Hamas in power. That's just not going to happen.
And understand the president looks at this as a pseudo-developer, one of the best developers in American history. We're going to run point from a development standpoint, adding stability, and you can expect that there'll be some upside for America.
Everything that the president views internationally, and I hope you guys see a theme here. He just said this with the Ukraine thing.
Everything that he is mentioning right now, everything comes through a lens of, is it good for america and how does america benefit for example

ukraine comes up he says i want an end of the killing but i want access to their rare earths

it's very similar to trump 2016 do you remember when trump used to go off in 2015-16 why didn't

we take the oil in iraq and people would make fun of him but it's actually a very profound point

which is why do we spend all this blood all this money all this life and we get nothing in return

Thank you. rack and people would make fun of him, but it's actually a very profound point, which is why do we spend all this blood, all this money, all this life, and we get nothing in return? It's one of his greatest points, actually.
And he was mocked relentlessly, and he kind of got away from that in 2019, 2021, but now he's right back to original Trump in that regard. So I wouldn't jump to any conclusions.
We are resolutely America first here. And it's not dirty for Americans to benefit when we've absorbed so much of the costs.
Thanks for being a member, man. Really appreciate it.
Lisa, thank you for being a member. Lisa, how are you doing? Hi, I'm good.
How are you? Good. What is on your mind? Well, my question is, with all the DEI hires that are already in place, people who are already working, they were hired under the DEI idea.

Is there any plan or any way to get those people out of those positions or are they there to stay? My husband is an airline pilot and it's just disheartening to know know that maybe some of the people that are there doing air traffic control or mechanics were hired, and they're not qualified. First of all, Lisa, you just brought up a great point that I have never thought of.
Mechanics that are DEI. That's very smart, and I got to give you credit for that.
Because air traffic control, by the way, we know air traffic control is full of DEI hires. That's not a Charlie Kirk speculation.
That's not hatred in my heart. That is an Obama policy where he just took over ATC to hire a bunch of people with physical and mental disabilities.
Not an exaggeration. Okay.
Not an exaggeration. It's in the prior FAA guidelines.
The federal government is not the same as private companies. However, there is a lot of overlap.
ATC, air traffic control is FAA jurisdiction. Delta is continuing DEI.
But that is a really profound point that I'm going to have to think of because we think of the pilots. But imagine if there's some DEI mechanic.
Imagine if there's some person hired because of the color of their skin who doesn't have merit, doesn't know what they're doing, and just signs off on some engine renewal. Turns out there was an issue.
And so at least I'm not trying to increase your anxiety at all with your husband. But a couple things.
We're going to see a dramatic push towards merit. And here's where the president's executive order could impact the private airlines.
These airlines all do business with the federal government. They all do freight runs.
They'll all do commercial airliners. They all do business with the federal government.
In fact, these airlines are basically private public partnerships because do you remember during COVID, we bailed out the airlines and we never should have done that. We wrote these massive tens of billions of dollars of checks to United, Delta and American.
So they're basically proxies of the federal government. So what the president has done is that if you do business with the federal government, you can't have DEI.
It's very simple. We want meritocracy.
I want the best pilots, the best mechanics, the best air traffic control. Air traffic control is going to take some time to fix, unfortunately, but that one's a problem.
Mechanics, great point. We've got to get on that.
Pilots, look, there should be zero room for error, whether it be surgery or a pilot or a pediatrician. We want the best of the best.
America succeeded when we were focused on merit, not on race. I don't care about your race.
I care about your competency. Lisa, great question.
I think we're going to start to see some better changes, but you bring up a very astute point. Hey, everybody.
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Avery, what is on your mind? Thank you for being a member. Hi, Charlie.
Can you hear me? Yes. Avery, how are you? Thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind? Well, I'm very excited about the whole drill baby drill. Yes, sir.
I'm 72 years old and I've lived through a lot of the highs and lows of the reality of us not being energy independent, what it's cost America.

So I'm excited about that. I do, however, or am concerned about the fact that from my understanding, we do not have the refining capacity to be able to truly be independent.
And so unless there's an equal push for building and upgrading new refineries, it does not seem we're going to be able to get there. Have you heard of any push and plans for that so that we will be able to be independent? It's a great question.
So just so everyone understands, it's not enough just to extract the minerals. Also, you have to be able to refine it so that could be used.

So there's a couple of things. We need to build new refineries.
And so we need to have a massive public-private partnership to have more refineries and can incentivize more refinery development

through tax credit subsidies and even expanded permanence. We need regulatory reform.
So this

is the other part of OMB with Russ Vogt. The problem we don't have more refineries is the

amount of regulation it takes to get refineries built because of the EPA and environmental stuff. And so we also just need to make it more economically viable.
If we want to be energy independent, we have to not just extract our oil and then send it overseas to be refined. We need to be the energy refining capital in the world.
Very good point, Avery, and thank you for being a member. Thank you.
Thank you for everything you do. I consider you probably one of the greatest evangelists in America, and that to me is the most important thing of all.
Really appreciate that. Thank you.
Michael, you are the last question. What is your thoughts? Members.CharlieKirk.com.
How's it going, Charlie? Good. How are you? What's on your mind? Good.
One of the biggest things I wanted to see from Trump is his declassification of the JFK documents and stuff like that. I remember talking to someone at AmFest this past winter about it.
What do you think that will cause in the future if these documents do get declassified? Will there be revolt? What do you think about that? Well, they're going to get declassified. In fact, they have two weeks, so I think they have to come out by Tuesday.
I think it was two weeks from the declassification memo. I don't want people to get too excited, to be honest.
I think that they're going to be largely boring.

So there's one of two outcomes here.

I did a tweet that went very viral on this.

The first outcome is that we find out

that the government was behind the murder of JFK.

I personally believe that.

I've said that for quite some time.

I think at the very least,

the government was involved or aware.

And I've read almost all the books, and not all the books, but the main books. I know enough about it to be dangerous.
That's number one, that the government was a co-conspirator in the murder of JFK. I think that is totally the truth.
I don't think the files are going to show that. I think the files are probably going to be really boring.
I think the files are going to tell us things we already know,

and that will show that we over classify information in Washington, D.C. to justify jobs and titles of people that should never have those jobs and titles, and it's going to be a big dud.
There could be something in the middle where we learn something, and we will probably, at the very least, we'll probably learn about a cover-up. we probably won't learn that

you know

that there was active involvement the files also might show that the cia should have known about oswald but missed it and they covered it up to avoid showing that there were screw-ups leading to that do i think we're going to find conclusive evidence like oh yes we at the Central Intelligence Agency had two armed gunmen on the grassy knoll, and we fired repeated shots that struck the governor of Texas, and then the head went back into the left, and then we covered it up. There's almost no likelihood that if those things happen, there would be a paper record.
If anything, it will show an active cover-up. So we'll see.
And then it begs the question, why have they been classified for so long? But nothing I can see can convince me otherwise. The burden of proof is on the government to prove themselves that they didn't know and they weren't involved in the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
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