THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 95 — Female Umps? Liberal Charlie Kirk? To Weed or Not to Weed?

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Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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That's why we are here.

Okay, everybody, it is Thought Crime Thursday.

We have a really fun lineup of topics for you.

We have Tyler, we have Blake, we have Jack.

First, Jack, I know we have what could be called, you have a good term for it, it could be the Anchorage Accords, Jack.

I know that they're trying to downplay some expectations here, but just before we even get into the South Park episode, Jack, I want you to just some news of the day because this could be listened to at any time.

But set the table for the stakes of Alaska, and then we'll get into South Park stuff.

Well, it's huge.

I mean, look, you got the first time that President Trump and Vladimir Putin have ever met together on U.S.

soil.

This will be the first time that

a Russian leader has ever visited Alaska at all, which, of course, given the history, Alaska used to be part of the Russian Empire.

It was discovered by Russian explorers back in the 1700s.

But the stakes couldn't be higher because this is a meeting of the two most powerful men in the world, the world's two largest nuclear powers.

There's a huge war that's been raging basically since Joe Biden took office.

And President Trump made it one of his key points, key policy points in 2024 to work to end that war from day one.

And he's been working to end that war from day one.

So I don't think anyone else could have done this other than President Trump.

He's got an incredible team that's going up there with him.

And the Anchorage Accords, look, the stakes couldn't be higher in terms of what this could mean for world peace, what it could mean for the United States, and what it could mean for all of us going forward.

And I also think, you know, just looking at it, it's interesting the way that President Trump's strategy and Secretary Rubio has talked about this a little bit as well.

If you look at BRICS, it's all about BRICS as far as I'm concerned.

He's systematically gone through the list.

Like you got the B, you got the I, you got the S, so Brazil, India, South Africa, and then Russia, because the very last one on that list is who, China.

This is all about getting to China.

So he's working his way through the various BRICS nations, and the very last one will be China.

That is actually the biggest piece of the table right now, even beyond the Ukraine war.

Do you have a thought on this, Tyler?

Well, I was just going to say, I'm really offended that no one from the Trump administration invited any of Jack's extended family or myself as the only Russian speakers.

As the interlocutors.

I'm the only American Russian speaker within the orbit, and I'm not there.

And I'm afraid of it.

We're going to be coming to sit here.

I was just thinking, you're like the only one who can speak Russian.

We're going to look up and it's like, oh, Tyler's literally in the Ukrainian military at some point.

Remember the point where in the Ukraine war started and it's like, and our ambassador was previously with like the Ukraine.

I just think I could go and be useful and just like, you know, like talk, you know, talk shop with like the outsider guys, you know, Putin's thing.

Well, it's interesting.

So I don't know how much of this stuff is public.

What am I allowed to say?

Jack, let me ask Jack the question.

Jack, how many people are the Russians bringing?

They've got a full delegation delegation in terms of a couple of flights.

I can't remember what's public or not, but once it's all over the place.

I know for a fact that Russian diplomats from Washington have been heading up to Anchorage all week.

And, of course, we've seen a few flights now coming across from the U.S.

to

Moscow to Anchorage already this week.

And then, of course, he's bringing a lot of the top Kremlin leaders.

He's going to be bringing Sergei Lavrov.

He's He's going to be bringing his special envoy, as well as a couple of other top leaders.

Interestingly enough, though, I believe that the Russian Minister of Defense, as well as the Secretary of Defense and the U.S.

side, Pete Hagseth, are both not coming to the meeting.

And that obviously is a huge piece of sort of...

sort of signaling that this is a peace summit rather than a you know a war summit or rather than go to war with each other both sides really sending a huge signal with that so there will be there'll be a lot of fun stories afterwards but you know, it's just, let's, let's just let it go.

I really have enjoyed the freak out where they're like, the implication of us just meeting them in.

Is he going to return Alaska to Russia?

Only if they can keep Lisa Murkowski.

That's a whole sexual question.

She did vote for the Big Beautiful Bill.

He'd say something like that.

I will say, though, that

from what I'm hearing, I'm hearing some reports on the Russian side that there's a lot of, there's a lot of cynicism in Moscow.

Like, they're bringing a massive security detail because there's a lot of people who actually are worried that

in Moscow, again, this is if you if you go read like what people are saying on Russian social media, that people are worried that you know Trump will betray Putin and launch an attack on Russia while Putin's in the United States.

I'm telling you, like the whole thing is

wild in terms of what they're saying.

So I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians come in with a really, really big footprint.

Yeah, it's going to be fun.

All I'm I'm going to say is

just watch it on TV, it's going to be quite the spectacle.

I mean,

it's going to be great.

So the whole show tomorrow, we're going to talk about on the Charlie Kirk show.

We're going to go through the stakes, the land, NATO membership.

And I just, I cannot compliment the president enough on this.

And Blake, I know you would agree, especially on this, just meeting is like an act of courage.

Like, there's people mad that he's sitting down and talking to Putin.

It's so deranged to me.

It is.

It is.

Head of state.

And frankly, it seems like that's where he's usually been at his best.

There's been some noticing of this where like the leaders who bother to talk to Trump end up having good relationships with him.

And it often transcends politics.

The funniest one to me was he was buds with Amlo during his first term, the left-wing Mexican president, but they talked to each other.

And like Amlo had thought he kind of had his election stolen the first time he ran for president in like 2008 in Mexico.

So he was really understanding, you know, Trump was like, everyone's out to get me, you know, know, those deep state people.

He's like, oh yeah, Trump.

They're very terrible.

And like, so they like made the Remain in Mexico deal.

Like, he had a great relationship with the president of Mexico.

That's why the border got so good towards the end of his first term.

And that's a left-wing guy.

And then similarly, trade deals, like we're having a lot of this, you know, trade friction.

A good example is he's kind of been being pretty combative with Narendra Modi in India right now, who's also a conservative.

But then Keir Starmer, who we otherwise have basically no reason to like Keir Starmer, but Starmer bit the bullet and was like, I'm gonna call Trump and we're just gonna like be buds.

And now they have a trade deal.

The whole thing's wild.

All right, so we're all eyes on this.

Credit, credit, credit to President Trump for meeting.

And by the way, the optics of it are just gonna be amazing.

It's on a U.S.

Air Force base in Alaska.

Alaska used to be Russian, so I would speculate that Trump's like, oh, we got, you know, what part of your land kind of is like, you know, we want to talk about Laskland.

This land was your land.

Now it's our land.

And like, you want Zelensky's land.

Like, there's, you know what I mean, mean, Jack?

Like, there's a little bit of like, oh, you want to talk about the land thing?

He's going to totally try to praise him.

He's going to,

there is a faction of Russian politics that's like, you should have never given up Russia, Alaska, right?

You shouldn't have.

It was a very good deal for us.

It was an amazing deal.

It was so good for us.

Yeah.

There's actually a really cool just

historical fact that I saw.

And I was reading what the Russian side was announcing about the trip to try to get a sense of, because they were putting some stuff out before because they're ahead of U.S.

time this morning.

And they mentioned someone from one of the Kremlin spokesmen was saying that there's actually a site on,

or at least near the base where they're going to be meeting.

One of the cemeteries actually has Russian soldiers that were pilots that are buried in a U.S.

Air Force base, right?

There, I guess, Army installation on Elmendorf.

And the question is, well, why would, you know, why would Russian soldiers be buried in Alaska?

Well, during World War II, these were actually pilots that when the U.S.

was running the Lend-Lease program, and so when we were sending tanks and planes, et cetera, and equipment to the Russian Army, to the Red Army, and the USSR, that one of the routes was to fly them from Alaska to Siberia.

So the Russians would take a plane, fill it full of pilots, fly that to Alaska, then have the Alaskan pilots or have the pilots in Alaska go into the American fighters and bombers, et cetera, and then fly them across the Bering Strait over to Siberia.

But just given the situation, given the weather, there were a number of people who died.

So it wouldn't surprise me if, you know, perhaps there's some ceremonial

visit to the site.

And it's really this area where you don't see too many of it, where it's this linkage of the U.S.

and Russia from this World War II operation.

Have you guys ever been to Alaska?

Never.

I've been to Sitka.

Why would you go to Sitka?

It's historically a Russian island town in Alaska.

I've been told.

They have some interesting stuff.

The craziest one.

All the places to go, you get to see the

craziest Orthodox church there.

It's like a little bit of a free.

One of the craziest ones.

There's a town in Alaska.

There's a town in Alaska that's Russian old believers, and they moved back there.

Really?

Yeah.

I've heard about this.

Yeah, Blake, I've heard about this.

So old believer, long story, but there was like the Russian Orthodox Church, and then they reformed it.

And some people were like, that's not cool.

That's lame.

And they've been this like dissident religious group in Russia and around the world.

And I don't even think they've always been in Alaska.

I think they lived in America.

And then they're like, we should make our own Old Believers Town.

So they just moved to Alaska and bought land.

And because you get all the free lumber, too.

Yeah.

So you can literally build anything you want in Alaska if you move there.

It really is kind of a case.

If you're complaining that you lack community, you don't really lack community.

You just lack will because you could move to Alaska and lumber.

I love a town.

I think Alaska is one of the great treasures on the planet.

It is unbelievable.

It's so wild.

It's so, like, it makes Colorado look like just like JV.

It's so overly wild.

Jack, have you been there?

Yeah,

I've been all over like the southern part.

I actually did a trip up to Prudhoe Bay once,

got to put my hand in the Arctic Ocean.

That's a tough one to get, but I've been there.

There you go.

That's a big one.

So, Jack, I think you would agree, and Tyler would agree.

There's like Colorado, Montana Wild where you like, you know, pull up, you know, you go to Glacier, like, wow.

you know, that's wild.

And then there's like Alaska wild, and you're like, whoa.

And you take like 10, you go 10 steps off the highway.

Yeah.

And all of a sudden, it just meets your being.

And you're like, there's the nothingness.

It's like a vast abyss of untouched.

Vast is the only word I can use, right, Jack?

It's like anti-silent.

And it's nicknamed

the frontier that just.

That's the nickname of the state, the last frontier.

It still is.

I mean, it is a frontier state.

100%.

It is so vast.

It is so wild.

Now think of what Siberia is like.

And the ocean is like a story.

I know, exactly.

I mean, so kind of like the connective tissue here.

Last thing about Alaska, by far the most plane accidents and crashes.

You got to fly everywhere.

I think it's the highest private plane ownership per capita is Alaska.

Hold on, hold on.

Their private planes are like pontoon boats.

Yeah.

Okay?

Yes.

These things are a joke.

They look like park them out in their yard sometimes.

I mean, these things are single prop, like not exactly what we would call.

It would be so unsafe.

You would look at it.

I mean, I think they have like 400 a year or something.

It's insane.

It happens all the time.

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All right, South Park.

All right, well I could talk last year.

We only need

to hit this quick, but we just wanted to congratulate you, Charlie.

So you were in the episode last week, of course, and apparently, in terms of ratings, it was the most viewed South Park episode since 2018.

Now, I think we probably have to give a lot of the credit, of course, to just the wider context.

They could have had huge views if they made fun of Biden and Kamala.

I mean, they decided not to be popular.

Let's just be honest.

It's very funny to me because South Park, they wouldn't really make fun of Bush much when everyone was, and they didn't really do it for Obama or...

Trump.

They did a bit for Trump versus.

And then, yeah, Biden, as you said, they've kind of generally avoided making fun of U.S.

presidents.

And I thought their reasoning for a long time was good, which was everyone talks about U.S.

presidential stuff forever.

There's no new jokes to be made about it.

It'll usually, it's like, it's low effort.

You often make yourself look dumb.

And they're sort of proving themselves right because I thought the stuff with you was really good.

I thought it was hilarious.

It was legitimately hilarious.

Yeah, the stuff with Trump has like not been as good.

At least stuff with him.

Trump stuff's like whatever.

I mean, so, so Tyler, you made an interesting point that no one's made.

So the whole kind of like master debater thing, they were also getting at something that like young men are spending more time watching politics than like going through porn hub.

That was like a buried lead of that.

This is producer Angelo, actually.

Producer Angelo

made this point, which is like, how cool was the undertone that they were basically...

That's a deep pull.

It was a hugely deep pull that young men were more interested in getting the Charlie Kirk award than the Pornhub Award now, right?

Is that an award?

Well, I mean, you know what I mean?

Like the

debate of masturbation.

Yeah, but

they were very leaning in on this, which is just more young men.

Young men are like

young men are competing to be more conservative.

And it's true.

Like every single person I talk to, I just had a contractor at my house the other day, and he's like, well, what do you do?

And I explained what I did.

He's like, oh my gosh, my kids on TikTok all day, my 14-year-olds on TikTok all day long, watching nothing of the show.

It actually is really funny.

Yeah, the competition

is the most extreme guys.

So you'll get guys online and they'll just be like, well, actually, so-and-so is a cuck because he doesn't want to, like, deport the family members of everyone.

You know, and like, they get like completely unhinged.

And that's where young men are now, and that's why we're winning

the debate.

It's they're living there, and they're taking this.

And there's,

every day, we're seeing headlines, who's going to be the left's Charlie Kirk?

Who's going to be the left's Charlie Kirk?

And there's nobody.

And they basically, like, South Park had to identify that.

And then the second piece is that all of South Park is dependent upon young men and what they care about.

And this is what they care about.

It's great.

They do.

Actually, Charlie, did go ahead.

Did you see what Scott Adams had actually said about you the other day?

He's very kind.

I want to load the, I mean, if we want.

I mean, it doesn't have to all be.

Yeah, I meant to mention it to you.

It was very,

I caught it.

Yeah.

I caught it.

It was so nice.

I mean, he just said, he said, look,

the reason, I don't know if you guys have the clip or not, but he said, the reason the left can't have a Charlie Kirk is because Charlie Kirk, all he does is

say common sense.

He states commonsensical things and he looks at complex issues and puts them out given common sense.

So the left can't do that because it's completely against their entire nature.

And if you were going to have someone who did that, they would just be another Charlie Kirk.

Yes, and he also was very complimentary of how we did our campus interactions.

And it's really, really good.

He loved it.

It was a Charlie Kirk love fest.

He was loving on you, Jack.

He was very sweet.

He follows all of our stuff very closely.

Scott is great.

How is his health, by the way, Jack?

So he has a new

regimen now that I hear.

Scott and I share, you know, we're friends, and we have a, you know, share a Joshua Isaac, co-author slash editor.

And he's working on a new

treatment.

And I don't know quite all the details with it, but I basically heard that it was like a hormone blocker.

But like a really, really expensive brand new one.

And he actually said it had something to do with blocking his testosterone.

And if I remember correctly,

and for some reason, that took away like all of his pain.

So, you know, talk about thought crimes.

He had already scheduled, I think it was the end of June, he was going to do

the

doctor-assisted procedure at the end of June, and he was going to punch out.

But now he's still going strong, and he says he thinks he's got at least a couple of years left.

And, you know, obviously looking for a larger solution to the issue to his pancreatic cancer, but same one that Joe Joe Biden has, as a matter of fact.

But pain-wise, he's doing okay, apparently.

And so,

just go back to the ratings themselves.

The numbers were very good.

And so, maybe we'll make another appearance.

Maybe we won't.

And by the way, do we have like the contemplation?

The other subtext of this, which I just have loved, is how mad liberal TikTok is that I'm not mad about it.

Yeah.

That has been hilarious.

There's even been like meta-analysis there.

Like, some people responded, like, trying to signal that they could take a joke.

And, like, oh, like, oh, we have to war game this.

I, i i don't

it was at it's actually hilarious the whole thing's hilarious i've watched some of those clips like three or four times it's funny it's like well written it's smart it's hilarious every single one of them was like they're making fun of you bro and don't you know it the joke is about you you're not in on the joke laugh laugh laugh

no it's so funny why are you laughing well that's the funny part too it's like you look at this you watch the whole thing it's like there's no part of this that was actually like hardcore making fun of you, even like they weren't going at you that hard.

It was a like a level of respect that if you get that from South Park, that's

like the top-tier respect that you saw.

It's wild, it's crazy.

It's good stuff.

So then Hassan Piker, who I'm actually going to be debating at Dartmouth, coming up in about a month.

Round two.

So I'm going to save all of my commentary on Hassan Piker for that specific moment, but he did an interview with GQ.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just I was saying, just because of the whole, you know, they're talking so much.

No, hold on.

Did he really do the bad picture?

It appears so, yes.

Oh, my gosh.

I will, you guys have to do all the commentary for me here.

I'm going to say nothing.

Yeah, so I was, I just found this just because we were talking about, you know, they're saying, oh, they need their left-wing Charlie Kirk, and like, who would it be?

And so, yeah, and then just by happenstance yesterday, do we have the photo of this?

Do we have the photo of,

let's get this up so people can see.

Yes, there we do.

So they did a profile of Hassan Piker, who says America might be cooked.

We agree with him on that one.

We might be cooked.

We're hoping for the best, though.

We think we have the guy in charge who can help this, but

he's going to try to turn the tide by wearing a palace, what looks like a Palestine soccer jersey while on some sort of bed somewhere.

Or is that a couch?

They also have this bathtub one.

Really?

This is

the same thing.

Jackson has not made its way on Twitter yet.

I'm staying out of this watch.

I haven't seen this.

He posted himself in a bathtub with bubbles.

It's a GQ and Hassan Piker shared this.

I thought GQ was trying to be more conservative lately.

I thought after photos.

This is similar to the.

Have you seen the GQ Travis Kelsey photo shoot?

Because it's very similar to this.

I just sent it in the chat that, you know, it's this sort of like, we're liberal, but we're masculine, but we're also like, it's like an aggressive form of hyper masculinity that you usually see in like like marvel movies or something yeah there's the travis kelcey like he's he's a working man he's he's blue collar

and it's just like aggressively over masculine and it's

and it's just i'm sorry like it's just it just comes across as really gay and that you know go back to one with the boots with travis kelce

I mean, he's, he's on top of like a shipping container.

He looks like a boss in like a 2000s Konami video game.

This is gay and questionable.

GQ is supposed to get more conservative after Trump got elected.

I thought they would turn a new leaf.

This is like the Tim Walls thing where it's like, where it's kind of like, remember the Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs, and he's like, he's like, thinks he can become a woman by, you know, like wrapping himself in this literal skin suit of women.

I mean, that's basically what this is.

You're skin suiting masculinity.

You're you're skin suiting the working class.

I mean, this is just,

it's like, he's got like a frayed pea coat, but it's like fake frayed.

I don't know, man.

This is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen.

Also, are those like riding boots?

Hassan Piker's feed is him in a bathtub, and then him and Rashida Tlaib.

and him promoting Democratic Socialists of America, their convention for 2025.

And this is their answer for turning point, Charlie Kirk.

Like, this is...

I feel like they're doing our work for us.

And when they talk about this, they always make the mistake of thinking, like, Charlie's just a guy with a podcast or just does tables on universities.

And, like, they're really missing the point.

Like, the full spectrum Charlie Kirk experience is like he's doing the table and then he's like also off to do like his entire get out the vote effort.

And then he's also off to like, oh, we have to found all of our chapters on all the campuses and raise the money.

Now I'm going to go speak at this church and that church.

And now I'm going to appear on all, like, it's just like the relentless stuff.

And also more pictures.

he's not posting any photos I have never seen a photo of Charlie Kirk in a bathtub

that will be the day we we all call on sick that'll be yeah wait but Charlie would you do you you do do your your cold plunges so would you ever do a cold plunge

that's different than Hassan Piker in a bubble bath okay like I know it's different but I'm just what if we did a bubble bath

plunge that I don't know if would it be Charlie are there bubbles in your cold plunge there's no bubbles in the cold plunge do you bring your rubber ducky?

No, apparently, he does, apparently.

No, he's he's his all his posts are just like with your is that a scented candle?

Is that a pumpkin spice?

Everything he does is commie and femme.

I like this.

We have to read this quote.

We have to read this quote

because it's amazing.

This is from the GQ article about the man who's going to be the left-wing Charlie Kirk.

As Piker burns through his 70-minute workout, exhausting himself in the process, he strips his shirt off.

An army of girls and gays, not to mention admiring looks maxers, would kill to be where I am now, next to Piker, as he pants in a pair of neon shorts with black Calvin Klein boxers poking out and sunlight glinting off the sweat beaded on his chest.

Goodness.

This author.

Who wrote this article?

But this goes back to the point of everybody's looking for answers, and the people that they're picking for answers are the reason why we exist.

The reason why Charlie Kirk exists is because Hassan Piker, this isn't new.

There's been gay commie stuff out there forever.

That's what literally spawned Turning Point.

That's what gave credence to all this stuff is because nobody, no dude wants this ever.

And so they're just pushing, they're actually helping us.

They're just making it even deeper than it is.

It's great.

Congratulations, GQ.

I have a lot I'll say.

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Yes.

All right.

Weed, the demon weed.

I think we all agree on this.

I think we do, but we should still talk about it.

We're not talking about it anyway.

So, for context, for those who didn't see Charlie's show earlier today, there's discussion within the Trump administration because there's some divisions within the conservative movement on should we loosen the legal restrictions on weed?

Right now, marijuana is a Schedule III drug.

I believe that's the most severe category, um or one of the most severe where it's like basically almost no or no medically valid uses it's other ones that are schedule three are heroin lsd stuff like that generally carries the most punitive federal oversight and penalties and there's discussion of moving it to schedule one which is there's some risk of addiction and harm but it's

you know, less bad overall.

And so they would move it from Schedule 3 to Schedule 1.

And Trump has said, he said at a press conference that they're looking at it.

They'll probably probably decide next week, but they haven't finalized the decision yet.

And so we've been weighing it on ourselves.

Do we think it would be a good idea?

It's a terrible idea.

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This is like Boomer Redemption Arc.

Oh, yeah.

I have to give boomers a ton of credit.

Their greatest take is their anti-weed stance.

I'm sorry.

We just got to to call Sean

Demon.

We were very unfair to

the booms a lot.

Not unfair, but

I just like, you know, a little critical sometimes.

I'm sorry.

Gen Z is totally wrong on this.

They have no idea what they're engaging into.

I think.

And I did a ton of talking, so I want you guys to talk on this.

We did a whole episode on it today.

It's being well received by the older audience, loves it, and the younger audience is like, I'm super productive.

And then it's very funny.

This is my favorite thing.

I'm super productive because I smoke weed.

I scroll down their other tweets.

I can't afford a home and I can't afford my.

Oh,

okay.

So, which is exactly.

So, wait, like weed is.

I'm so amazing.

I get so much done thanks to weed, and I can't afford my groceries.

It really does.

I feel like weed is like the first step on the path of like someone who's like, I am a better person, and so I can do drugs with no ill effects.

And I'll be frank, I think there probably are some people who have like done drugs and have not had super bad things happen to them.

But one, you don't necessarily know for sure.

Like I think a lot of the damage is on the margins.

We looked at the numbers.

If you take a bunch of marijuana when you're a teenager, it'll probably lower your IQ by two points.

That's not always super noticeable on an individual to individual basis, but that matters a lot on a country level.

Like if your country has an average of like 102 versus 100, that's like $10,000 and what your country's average incomes are if you look at it, you know, because that stuff, they measure that stuff by country.

And

it's just,

I really do think it's worth asking ourselves, like, do we want to be a country where a bunch of people, where it's like normal to take tons of drugs and a bunch of people are on them?

And you can like frame it from this libertarian perspective of like, should people just be allowed to harm their bodies if they want?

But at the same time, like, Has there ever been a great country where a ton of people are on a ton of different types of dope?

I don't really think so.

No, again, I did a huge summary on it.

I'll try to do my best to summarize it.

Number one, we talk about the enormous amount of data that it's way worse for young people than we ever imagined, lowering IQ points, making people less likely to show up on work on time.

I mean, the data is just overwhelming.

I have some of it here that I can reread.

And I think all of us know people who they got into weed and they just became a weed person.

I actually have it.

It eats their personal life.

You know what?

This reminds me so much in some ways of like the trans debate.

Where it's like, we know it's wrong and everyone says no no it's fine like we need more studies and like we could just see it's bad for people we could like we don't need a blue ribbon commission to tell us that like gender mutilation is wrong and again I'm not comparing like of course some people I guess can be fine and functioning but the people who say like the cope oh I'm super functioning on weed all the time like and they get they get so angry at the prospect of losing it

and their sensitivity towards it anyway Tyler I think there's actually a hugely that we have millennials who are actually converting over to be anti-weed who are big pro-weed.

And there's a again, Jack's about my age.

A bunch of us are about the same age.

I don't know if you've seen this, Jack, but a lot of friends that I've had, acquaintances I know that were really into weed in high school and early college age now have completely just gotten rid of it, got it out of their lives.

And part of it is the cost that you brought up.

It's on average, I've looked it up,

it's 300, 400 bucks a month that people are spending.

I mean, mean, we're talking like high-end car payments.

Yeah, high-end car payments that people are spending on weed per month.

And then you double that with alcohol.

So people are spending as much on alcohol and weed as you would on a mortgage or rent payment.

And that's a pretty common thing that happens a lot with a lot of people.

So I think as people age and get older, they're starting to realize, oh my gosh, this has been not good for my life.

This hasn't made me more productive.

They've realized they're not as productive.

They're spending money that they really shouldn't be spending and they don't have.

And now they're growing up.

And I try to, and I want Jack to get into this, but I try to synthesize these things down to a series of questions.

We do the same thing for crime or whatever.

Will this make America a stronger and better country 50 years from now?

Increasing drug use.

So there are four major lies when it comes to this.

I did this on the show.

We were told it was going to bring down crime.

It hasn't done that.

Number two, we were told that kid usage rates are going to go down.

You call this the worst of the lies, right?

Yeah, yeah.

We We were saying, hey, if you legalize it, less kids will do it because it will be harder to access.

The opposite has happened.

Weed usage amongst kids, and people say, oh, it's not using weed, it's smoking weed.

No, you don't understand.

Like, when I say people, it's not just smoking.

There's edibles, there's cookies, there's gummy bears, there's brownies, there's a lot of people.

Which are marketed to kids, by the way.

Very angry.

And this is the best argument that Blake made today.

And I want Blake to take it in a second.

But is it going to make America better?

That That is the most operative question because people, we have been lied to by the libertarians to be so narcissistic in our politics.

Well, I want it, so therefore it must be good.

Okay, got it, great, you're super responsible.

That's actually not the question that we're dealing with right now.

The question that we're dealing with is a societal one, a quality of life one.

When you walk the streets, do you want to smell it?

Do you want your kids to be raised in that way?

Will it make us more aspirational?

Will it make us work harder?

Will it make us grittier?

Will it make us more ethical?

Will it make us more virtuous?

Will it make our streets safer?

Blake, true or false, there are more DUIs now for weed consumption than for alcohol.

So I don't know in terms of arrests, but they looked at the CDC.

What they did is they looked at people, because the CDC said it's tough to easily track this across states and everything, but they just looked at people who ended up in the hospital from like severe accidents in seven different trauma centers.

And a higher percentage of them had marijuana in their systems than had alcohol in their systems when they tested these people.

It's been an accident.

No question.

And then also we were told the cartels would be weaker.

The cartels are richer and more powerful since we've done legalization.

And again, some people say, well, what about reclassification?

All reclassification would do would be yet another win for a lying marijuana industry that does not benefit the well-being of the United States of America, period.

Now, again, if you want to get it for some medical card, okay, I guess.

I'm sure there's some veteran that's not.

Even that's always bothered me.

I know, I just, I don't think that's the hill I want to die on.

It's not the hill you want to die on, but it was so, from the beginning, it was so nakedly intended to just be their beachhead for full legalization

because there's always been ways that they could like provide the painkiller benefits in a much more muted, low amount of marijuana way.

But people just want to smoke weed.

And again, I just,

I worry that it's,

and then the other argument that I don't like.

which is then that this is how you know you're winning the argument.

Like Charlie, it's going to be politically bad for us.

Wait, so doing nothing is politically bad for us?

I'm sorry.

Wait, what?

You could just do nothing.

So it's not a matter of an action.

But who cares if it's politically?

It's not the right thing to do.

Jack, are you with us on this?

And

I think...

I don't think the vast majority of Americans are.

Hover.

I want to just give everyone some hope.

Florida defeated the ballot measure that would have legalized marijuana.

Now, again, boomers, boomers strike back, baby.

It's because Florida has a bunch of Midwestern boomers that don't like marijuana.

So God bless the boomers.

It's the best thing that they've done politically recently.

Jack.

Yeah, Charlie.

A million percent.

And you're right, that this is one of those issues where it's like when you call somebody on the phone, they're almost like because

the weed lobby, or I call them big leaf, because big leaf is so aggressive and people like run up at you and yell at you in public.

Or I tweeted about this the other day and it just went, you know, avalanche avalanche of virality.

You retweeted that, which I think led to it, of course.

And, you know, so many people responding very angry.

I mean, almost like

theologically

upset at what I had said.

And that just said, please no, because it's like we're in DC and it's disgusting.

They don't enforce these laws.

There's weed smoke everywhere.

The stench is all over the place

in public.

I can't take my kids anywhere without smelling it.

And it sticks to you, it permeates everything, and it makes our cities dirty and it makes our cities nasty.

And I'm sorry, but it's, it is different.

And by the way, people know that, and by the, like, people always say, like, well, what about alcohol, Jack?

Like, yeah, okay, I, I, uh, everybody knows, like, I say it all the time, alcohol is poison.

I don't drink.

Um, I know what the laws are, but I've never once advocated for drinking.

And so it's like, you want to do that.

But the difference with drinking, obviously, other than drinking and driving, if you drink in your own home, then other people aren't going to be affected by that.

But when you're smoking weed, it just permeates every single space you're in.

And people are like, you can't even tell.

Like, dude, we can all tell, bro.

We can all tell.

We can all smell it.

You could smell it from a block away, and it makes our cities absolutely disgusting.

And the cop, and the Blue City cops, or at least, you know, I'm not going to put on the cops, but the Blue Cities will not enforce this.

They don't enforce any of the laws.

So anytime when Big Leaf comes up and says, oh, we're going to do this, we're going to do that.

No, it's never going to be enforced.

And here's the big thing.

I don't know if you guys covered this earlier today.

I've been running around, but it's the descheduling or rescheduling, whatever you want to call it,

that's coming down.

This is a massive tax break for Big Leaf.

So it allows these cannabis corporations to be able to take billions upon billions of dollars of deductions from the IRS that they currently can't take because federal law and a lot of state laws are kind of mismatched here.

So what they're wanting to do is to be able to take massive deductions, which is going to increase the sales of weed in the country.

It's going to increase the dispensaries.

It's going to be all over the place for kids.

They're going to be coming in contact with it everywhere.

We're already seeing it being marketed towards children.

And I couldn't be more against it.

Just totally against it.

Yeah.

And I just, as a parent, I could tell you, Tyler, it's not made the Phoenix metro area better.

It hasn't made the valley better.

It just periods.

No, Phoenix is a great test case, right?

And it hasn't made us stronger, healthier, happier.

And these weed dispensaries,

I want you to chime in.

They're kind of like slums that you could, you could, it's very interesting.

There's one near where I live.

When you kind of pull up, the people that are going in there are not people you would want to marry your daughter.

No.

They're not people that

it brings down the quality of life in the neighborhood.

These are not people that, oh, let's go to to church and go get an edible on the way.

No,

it is people that should be challenged to become better, but we're allowing them to go more shallower.

Tyler, I want to go first, then Phoenix, and then Blake.

Well, there's a reason, and that actually blends right into the commentary, that there's a culture around potheads, right?

Yes.

Whenever you can think of a

person

that comes out of

an activity, then there's a culture that's around it.

And if it's a positive culture that you're like, wow, I want want to be like that person,

then that's a good thing.

If it's a negative culture, then it's like, oh, that's probably a bad thing.

It's like the simplest way to put it.

The problem with weed to me that has always existed and since it got kind of peaked popularity from the time I was in high school to now, where it's been now it's kind of losing popularity and we're seeing trends that people are

actually shunning it, even though consumption is probably at its highest ever because it's legalized.

You have people who it's kind of like alcoholism when you think of an alcoholic, is similar in bad negative culture that comes to a pothead.

The problem is, is that almost everybody that

ingests weed, that

actually subscribes,

smokes, or consumes weed, is more likely to become part of that pothead culture than a person who drinks that becomes alcohol.

That's just my opinion.

I don't think.

Yeah, and I, Matt Walsh made an argument, which is a good one.

It's not, I don't want to say it's great, but it's good.

That generally alcohol, I guess, could be used as like a social lubricant.

Have a drink, relaxes you.

There's a more social component to alcohol.

I think that's how it culturally got introduced to the American populace out of Prohibition.

Yeah, I'm like, I actually think one of the, I have like a bunch of books I want to write throughout my career.

I'm Blake, you can help me with this one after our next project.

It'll be the next one.

Honestly, Prohibition was way more successful than people realized.

I'm sorry.

People used to drink

three gallons of grain alcohol every day.

Cirrhosis, which was like

where your liver dies.

Yeah, but that was super common before prohibition.

And like, you had like every social problem we get from drugs was coming from just alcohol in terms of domestic violence,

abandonment, vagrancy.

And alcohol use has never gone up to where it was before the prohibition temperature.

It worked.

But

there was a good point.

I think Ross Douthat at the New York Times made this like a decade ago where he pointed out.

He pointed out that,

you know, maybe even if you just say alcohol is poison and it's totally bad, well, it has a long history in civilization and we're probably not going to root it out.

Fermented drinks are there forever.

It's used in religious rituals, including in the West and all of that.

You're not going to take it out.

So maybe you just have to concede, you know what?

Maybe it's even worse than marijuana, but we shouldn't stack a bunch of vices on top of it.

Totally.

That thing with impaired driving, I think that's become really common in a huge number of crashes is they're drunk and they're high speed.

Like, really,

every vice.

Every vice in America is stacking at the bottom.

So you have people who, if you're an alcoholic, you're also more likely to do weed and you're also more likely to abuse all these other drugs.

You're more likely to do opioids and heroin.

You're more likely to be addicted to gambling.

Every single one of these vices stacks and it's just nuking the people at the bottom.

Yeah, and Angela makes a good point.

I think the tide is turning with Gen Z leading this religious revival.

I think it's just becoming less and less cool to be a degenerate.

And if you,

again, I don't think you're a bad person.

It's not an indictment of your character, but I will say, and Jack, Jack, can you expand on this?

Some people can tolerate some moderate weed usage.

The vast majority of people can't, but they think they can.

That's the key, is that they think they're all fine.

Like, oh, I could keep myself.

No, we can tell.

That's why you're flatlining.

Like, just, it's not good for you.

Stop doing it, Jack.

Yeah, no.

And, and, and Charlie, I'm sure you, you've had your share of experiences of meeting people.

You mean like California people, I call them, right?

Or like West Coast people, and they'll say, hey, man, oh, I'm a founder, or I'm this, I'm that, you know, and they're in Silicon Valley or wherever they are.

And they say, well, I, you know, I smoke up every day and look how successful I am.

So clearly this must be, this must be okay.

And it's like,

maybe, right?

Imagine what you would do without weed is my answer always, though.

That's a good one.

That's a good one.

But what I'm saying is, like,

it's to your point, right?

You're, if those type of people, it's also self-selecting, right?

There's a self-selection bias there because you're already successful but how many people are also doing this and are not successful and are reaping or uh you know the bad benefits of you know the detriments of having used it and so it's like it's one of those things where as a society look we we should have a very strong public policy regarding these things and it's to your point charlie you know people want to make these arguments well it's great for me so i think it should be fine it's like that's cool but public policy is for everybody and you got to look at people up and down the ladder too.

That's what MAGA is supposed to be all about.

Actually, looking at the homeland, figuring out what's good.

And by the way, our cities should be incredible.

We're trying to clean up the cities, right?

That's the whole point of what President Trump's doing with the, you know, with the law enforcement and federalizing D.C.

So cleaning up the cities and going, and by the way, going after drug dealers is something that President Trump talked about for a long, long time during the campaign.

I don't really see how making drugs more accessible cleans up our cities.

Yeah, and I just, again, we have the before and after.

And the before and after, again, Phoenix is resisting a little bit, but not really.

I mean, there are parts of Phoenix that have gotten worse since the legalization of weed.

Well, look at the homelessness, look at the crime rates that have risen.

Like, and I know it's like, oh, it's a big jump.

But this is all, it's all connected.

It's interconnected when you look at this and you go, when you make this stuff accessible, productivity goes down.

When productivity goes down, homelessness and

those that are in the workforce go, homelessness goes up, working Americans goes down, everything costs more because, also, by the way, this is something that's like I've been reading and we see that.

I mean, we have a ton of employees that are here.

Their rent has gone up dramatically.

You know, one of the big number one things that landlords are saying that that's happening is they can't get the smell of weed out of the walls.

They are charging everybody up.

So, what that does automatically is rents get raised because of stuff like this.

It's silly, stupid stuff like this that all of a sudden changes things.

Smoking is at an all-time low.

Now, weed usage has actually gone up, the amount of weed that's actually being smoked.

And it only happens in certain neighborhoods, in certain contexts.

And it's with young people in depressed areas where

landlords are high and crime is higher and homelessness peaks.

And we're seeing all of this happen in places that people are going, like, I don't even recognize the downtown portion of our moderate-sized or small town anymore because this is what's taken over.

Yeah, and I just, again,

the other part of it is that when you legalize something and Blake, you can attest to it,

it is an endorsement for usage.

Yeah, and so

that is the key.

It is a, it is kind of a blessing.

There are a lot of people who cannot really in their head divide like legality from morality.

That's just how a lot of people are.

Every law has a moral root to it.

Every law has a morality.

So Blake, that's an IQ test.

Yeah.

That's an IQ test because for a lot of people, legality is morality.

So the idea that, okay, like you understand the difference, it's like saying we're all created equal versus we're all equal in the declaration.

All right.

Most,

you should say most people, you would hope that most people can understand that.

but a ton of people don't.

And so to a ton of people, they're going to say that legality is morality.

If it's legal, means it's good and you can't say anything about it.

So if you're a mom or dad out there and your kid comes up to you and says, hey, I've got all these edibles and I've got all these gummies and I've got this and I've got that and this oil and that oil and I've got, oh, whatever in my geek bar that I'm going to be vaping later today.

And you say, well, I don't think you should do that.

Then they're going to say, well, what are you going to do to stop me?

Because it's legal.

It's legal in the city of Phoenix.

It's legal in the city of Washington.

It's legal wherever, you know, wherever you might be that it's legal already, Colorado, et cetera.

And mom and dad are going to lose that every time.

And over time, it's going to lead to more increased increased drug use.

And that's exactly what the cannabis companies want.

It's very simple.

There's a very obvious

corporate interest here.

But one of the other keys pieces that we haven't really touched on, but you go and look at some of these ice raids out in California, the cartels are heavily, heavily involved in the supply chain here.

We were told that legalization would get them out.

No, it's been the exact opposite.

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All right, so I want to do one final topic here, which is I want an answer to this, and maybe it's not as deep as I think, but as the country seems to be stripping away from DEI, CRT, and wokeism,

weirdly, sports are moving in the opposite direction.

And it makes this, is woke dead or is woke just on vacation?

And it's happening in multiple different sectors.

So the first of which

I don't know, Jack.

Because, no, because I've never loved the WNBA more than I do right now.

Wow, that's been so good these last couple weeks.

Yeah, I know, because sex toys are being thrown on the court, but

we'll get to that.

So, I'm launching up a lot of money.

Yeah, I've been watching a fair amount of baseball this summer.

The Cubs are good.

Now they're on a losing streak.

It's not great.

Anyway, the whole point is this, is that MLB, they, I don't know what they're thinking.

So

the backbone of American sports are

men, mostly conservative, center-right, Midwestern, and southern, very conservative, like mostly conservative.

It would be like, you know, 55, 60%

just normal guys.

They want to watch sports.

They don't want to see progress in sports.

And so there was a big fanfare about Major League Baseball having the first ever female umpire.

This made the front page of the Wall Street Journal.

And you have to always ask yourself the question, why is this a good thing?

Why does this matter?

Why is this good?

For what reason are we saying this is good?

Progress for what?

Is it going to be better?

Will it be more enjoyable?

Well, so this woman became an umpire.

And you could play it.

It's cut 471.

This was the first call of the game.

Her name is Jen Powwall.

Let's just watch Jen Powwall.

We hope you're

And here we go.

Joey Wentz likes that first call from Jim Brown.

The pitcher's faces.

Yeah, the best was the pitcher.

He was like, okay.

For those who can't see.

For those who can't see, the pitcher threw it inside for about a foot.

And just so we are clear, she was ranked 13th of 15th on umpires on the entire day, graded terribly.

And in her major league debut, she missed the first call.

And she missed 14 calls and had only a correct call rate rate of 90.3%.

Which this is baseball, you want a pretty high success rate on,

so did she earn it?

Is she good?

No, of course not.

She's not there because she's good or she earned it.

Everybody was saying online that they're introducing her so that we will get to get computerized

strike calling.

Oh, is that right?

It's a forcing function

if you want a thought crime there.

I am originally opposed to that.

I'm very much opposed to it.

I'm very opposed to Robert Carlos.

I'm for if half the umps are what are the things.

So if you want the real thought crime, it's like one woman umps.

And it's not like this is a woman playing baseball.

Like, I feel like women probably can call balls and strikes in baseball.

Like, maybe men have better sight than average.

No, no, but the point is that you need male-only spaces.

There should be no female umpires or referees, period, whatsoever.

Okay.

And by the way, she's not even good.

Do you know how close umpires have to be on the catcher?

I mean, it's pretty close.

Tyler.

They're on top.

It's pretty close.

I'm just saying, it would be very odd.

It's not about that.

It's just the fact that, like, some husky woman is right behind you, breathing down your neck the entire time.

They've spent their entire lives.

Check the zoom in.

I mean, come on, guys.

I mean, this is

with a dude there, and now a woman, it just, it throws your train of thought.

As a catcher, I would be upset.

I feel like a woman umpire in baseball is probably like the least intrusive like

all right Blake referee then let's defend

the least intrusive referee

she's sitting right on top of the game hold on a second Blake let me challenge that which if you are a manager of the twins and you want to go bark at an umpire yeah and you got to go like face to face with the ump and you're like spinning like

that was a strike what are you talking about you are if that's a woman are you more or less like to go do that that that's like a ancient baseball practice to get right up in the you know I'm right to bark in the face and all of a sudden it's a woman like well excuse me ma'am I don't think no like baseball is like gets raw it's primal it's real no it's okay and they get ejected and they're like no you stupid son of a that guy was safe like what are you talking about like you know talk like it gets thrown out it's almost battery like you can't do that with a woman no you can't it takes the whole culture of baseball exactly so they

said it would be the headline it'd be general you know it'd be um it would be um the uh yankees manager's manager otherizes or berates woman that baseball game The problem is you're picking the Twins here, and one.

Because you like the Twins.

Yeah, but I'm feeling down.

Well, I'm very lucky that I'm only a Twins fan and not a Vikings fan, because that's the other dimension that's just

not just the Vikings, it's the Saints and also the Panthers.

They did it with the Saints.

The Saints have a record amount of male dancers.

So, hold on, hold on.

Like, we need to get

a lot of money.

A lot of dudes were dancing.

We're not allowed to have teams named like the Redskins or the Fighting Sioux or the whatever because the tribes need to give their approval because it's like hurtful.

Can we have like the Vatican step in and be like, no male dancers on the saints?

No, there would be no.

I suppose technically they probably shouldn't like female cheerleaders either.

There would be no solidarity there.

But Charlie,

you remember this as well as I do, that Rush Limbaugh used to always talk about this.

He would call it the feminization of America.

And he would talk about it again and again.

And

he saw it happening through the 90s.

He saw it happening through the 2000s.

Where, and so, what you're talking about, this is masculine, right?

This, of course, it's in Philly, right?

That there you go, look at that.

And that's the best, right?

I mean, there is nothing more American.

And all of a sudden, you have a female umpire.

Are you going to see that?

This is male confrontation, direct confrontation.

Now, I will say it's almost like that happens a lot.

That type of altercation is

very intense.

It's like,

I will say, look at the, I feel like she could probably fit in in one of the screens.

No, but honestly, if you're a male going up, you do not,

you should not yell at a woman that way, period.

End of story.

It's different.

But if it's a man-on-man thing, by the way, male-female differences matter.

It does.

And so, like, if that's a woman, all of a sudden you're like, okay, excuse me, ma'am, I think it was a bad call there.

And can you reconsider?

And I know you're having a tough day.

And thank you so much.

Thank you.

And even more importantly,

exactly.

Yeah, but more importantly, they call each other names, Charlie.

Like, if you read their lips,

it's

profane stuff.

It's good stuff.

That is one of the ancient stuff.

But you can't do that with tobacco.

Also, in baseball, they're tobacco and sunflower seeds.

And women are really grossed out by that stuff.

You can't do it politely around them.

The whole thing is: women should not be referees.

I don't care if they're not.

Is there a whole judge about this?

Women should not be umpires.

Women should not be assistant coaches.

Women should not exist in male sport.

Like, that should not happen, period.

End of story.

It shouldn't.

Male-only spaces and female-only spaces matter.

No different than women should not be on submarines for obvious reasons, okay?

Oh, it's true.

And men, if you pull this every time, every attendee at sports games, it's like 95% will agree with you with that.

This isn't even like controversial.

And by the way, so why are they doing this?

Also, why does ESPN feel the need to have color commentators that are women on football?

I'm sorry.

If it's sideline reporters, that's fine.

Okay.

X, Y, Z, and Jured, great.

If there is a woman that is color commentating a game that she has obviously never played and she never could play,

stop it.

That is not progress.

No one,

I actively, and again, it's not about the individual woman.

Whenever I'm watching like an SEC game and it's like a woman, you notice they always try to lower her voice.

Oh, you know what?

What are you doing?

Stop it.

We don't need that.

We didn't ask.

Now, if it's a WNBA, I hate this.

If it's a WNBA game, fine.

All the women commentators all day long, fine, whatever.

But if I'm watching like Texas, Ohio State and there's like a woman color, you're you're giving color commentary on a sport you've never suited up on Jack.

No, I the thing you mentioned though just a second ago about women lowering their voices, particularly when they're

um

around sports.

You see it with like uh you I do see it with WNBA players.

I see it with uh just just anyone who's you know, a lot of women in TV, there's this like I call it jaw speak, but it's also like like this lower register speak that, you know, we're really excited to be out here today.

I really can't believe it's going on.

And it's like, so what you're doing is you're speaking with like your lower jaw only and all from the lower part of your throat, which is just not natural for women to speak like that at all.

That is not the natural speaking voice of women.

Why are you trying to sound like men?

So it's, you know, going back to what we said before, they're trying to turn men into women and women into men, literally.

Yeah, and it's just, so why, why is NFL, and then let's go to the NFL really quick.

So the NFL, this is a video of their new dancer for the Vikings.

Now look, let's all just take a moment and count how many times the Vikings have won a Super Bowl.

I don't want to watch this.

This is.

I don't want to see this.

See, the studio thought I was calling for a clip.

I was merely counting how many Super Bowl victories the Vikings have won.

It's not a lot.

Which requires absorbed amounts of silence.

Now, that was the new Vikings

dancer.

Why is the NFL doing...

Like, Blake,

from a purely business standpoint, this is dumb.

It doesn't do anything.

Like, what are they doing here?

You know, I just think

they're doing what Vikings have to do, which is they're failing.

They're failing at things.

So this is a good question.

Do you think that if the Packers did this, it would be put up with?

Like, they would put up with it?

The Packers don't have cheerleaders.

Do you know that?

Why?

That's too cold.

Well, there's too cold.

They've never done that.

I think them and the Steelers have never done it.

The Panthers have a trans dancer for the third year straight.

Like, why are the people?

I don't think straight's the term I would use to describe them having a trans dancer.

Third year straight?

Third year in a row.

But why are the people of North Carolina putting up with this?

Like, I don't, I mean,

the Panthers are laughing stock of the NFL, obviously.

But

I just.

And children are going there and they have to go watch the male dancers.

Oh, I know I'm getting into Jack.

They have to go watch some trans dude dance with the women.

So why is the NFL, like, again, I thought woke is dead.

Why is the NFL actively at war with its fans?

Because

this is still some of the vestiges that have gone on since.

Remember that when BLM got started, it was even prior to George Floyd.

One of the biggest

early sort of public protests that BLM did was, of course, Kaepernick and Travis Kelsey, again, was a huge part of it as well, and

kneeling for the national anthem and expressing hatred towards your country and degrading your country and saying that America is bad in the name of black lives or something, some way connecting that to the national anthem.

And they've been targeting the NFL for this since the Obama administration when they used the NFL, I believe it was the Baltimore Ravens, to push Obamacare.

And these operations have been going on because they are social conditioning experiments.

This is what the left does.

They say, where can we get the most normies?

Where can we get the most children?

Where can we get the most eyeballs?

Okay, so if this is the institution that we need to control to push our social, our various social contagions, then we are going going to take control of it from the inside and we are going to push all of this

across those channels.

So that you can literally see the cultural war being fought out at an NFL game when you look at the players kneeling for the anthem, which is stopped, but then the veterans come out, but then the trainee

cheerleaders come out and the male cheerleaders, and it's all sort of mixed together because the NFL is just this sort of

hyper,

just hyper-compartmented, hyper-pressurized version of all of America fighting together at once from a cultural perspective.

Man.

Final thoughts, Blake.

I'm just very glad it was the Minnesota Vikings getting the male cheerleaders because my friend John is a Vikings fan, and I now have another thing I can make fun of him for.

And I'm sure I'll have a lot because I'll also have their inevitable playoff defeat at the end of this season where they'll get all their hopes up.

They'll think it's finally our year and then they'll implode in catastrophic fashion and then i will feel really good and happy until my packers lose the following week to the 49ers tyler final thoughts man if i see trans cheerleaders in college football that's going to be i think we're going to have a cultural meltdown in america so i hope this doesn't bleed over from corporatized nfl to the ncaa

But I guess we'll see.

I guess we'll see.

I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon had trans

cheerleaders.

And they'll have really sleek Nike outfits that change everything.

They'll lead the way in that crime.

They will.

They will.

All right.

Everybody, till next week.

Keep committing thought crimes.

And maybe you'll tune into South Park.

See you soon.

Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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