Fixing the Most Important Gov't Agency You've (Probably) Never Heard Of

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Just one month on the job and the new US Citizenship and Immigration Services director Joe Edlow joins the show to discuss how he's reforming and shaking up the USCIS to fix a disastrous problem left to him by the Biden Administration including sending armed agents into the field to arrest immigration lawyers, reinstating neighborhood visits and making the citizenship test MUCH more rigorous. Reporter Willilam J. Kelley joins to discuss the mounting federal stand off in Chicago between Trump, Joe Scarborough, and Brandon Johnson and JB Pritzker.


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Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

Andrew Colvett in for the one and only Charlie Kirk from the Bitcoin mobile studio.

I'm the executive producer of this fine show and often guest host if Charlie's on the road, which he is in Korea.

He's in Asia right now, having a fantastic trip, by the way.

I am so honored in this show to welcome Joe Edlo, director of U.S.

Citizenship and Immigration Services, for a fascinating conversation of how he's actually, for the first time in that agency's history, providing armed federal agents to enforce the people that are scamming our visas and our green cards and our citizenship process.

That's a huge update.

They are reforming the heck out of that agency.

He has all the details.

We're going to have him back, by the way, because he's got more in the pipeline that is going to be really important for this country.

Then we welcome William J.

Kelly, reporter William J.

Kelly, out of Chicago on the latest in the feud, the standoff between the federal government and the really pretty sick, selfish local Illinois politicians that are digging their heels in to fight President Trump.

Finally, we talk about India.

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But first,

I can't wait to talk to my first guest here, Joe Edlow, who is the new director of U.S.

Citizenship and Immigration Services for the Trump administration.

And they have some breaking news this morning that is just, it almost sounds too good to be true to my ears.

But breaking this morning,

this is from the Wall Street Journal, agency that issues visas and green cards is hiring armed agents.

And they're not just going to be arresting immigrants who break the law.

They are going to be working on arresting the lawyers that help them break the law.

And I'm so excited to talk with Director Edlo.

Welcome to the show.

Honored to have you here.

Please tell us about

this breaking news.

Well, first of all, thanks so much for having me.

Yeah, we're really excited about this new opportunity.

When I got confirmed, I said that my mission here was to restore the integrity integrity of the immigration system.

One of the big problems with the immigration system is the rampant fraud within that system.

We already have great officers that are trying to find fraud and ferret it out.

We have our fraud detection national security officers right now.

However, they can only take a case so far without having to refer it to another federal agency to complete an investigation, maybe bring a case forward for prosecution.

No longer.

Now, USCIS has the ability to hire special agents, an investigative force that is going to go out there, take these cases to their natural conclusion, which is in these cases of big, big

types of fraud patterns, we're going to take that, get them prosecuted across the country by U.S.

attorneys.

Yeah.

And the big thing here also, when I was reading through this piece, Mr.

Director, is that

the focus is not just on the immigrants, right?

I mean, there's a lot.

You see this in the headlines with ICE raids.

And so you're constantly thinking, okay,

we're focused on getting the illegals out of the country, but this is legal immigration.

So that's an important

distinction here.

And you are going after the lawyers who are enabling so much of this fraud.

And it kind of struck me as,

you know, you go after the abortionist rather than the woman that had the abortion.

You go after the drug cartel versus the small-level dealers.

You can, in effect, by targeting the lawyers who are scamming the system, have a much broader and more immediate impact.

Is that the strategy here, sir?

It is.

You've got plenty of cases where you've got aliens who are committing fraud, a lot who are not committing fraud, but those that are, maybe they're doing it just themselves.

But where you've got large scale fraud...

fraud factories, you've got attorneys involved, you've got preparers involved, you've got fraudulent document preparers involved.

All of that needs needs to be targeted in order to restore the integrity of this system.

And that's what we're going to be doing.

So absolutely.

It's a bigger, it's a bigger canvas that we're looking at going after than just an individual case where we found some irregularities or misrepresentations.

That's fantastic, dude.

So,

you know, you're taking on a really big job, a really important job, one that has not gotten nearly as much, I think, attention as the illegal immigration thing.

I happen to be of the school of thought that yes, we have a massive illegal immigration problem, but we have a massive legal immigration problem in this country.

People don't assimilate.

They don't love our country.

We're not vetting for values and ability to not go immediately on the government dole when they get here.

As you have taken this job, I mean,

grade the situation as you found it.

I mean, how bad is it?

Grade it.

It was an F when I found it.

The legal immigration system is critical to this country, but it's got to work.

It can't work when it's overwhelmed and when the previous administration put all of its resources to help people get across the border, to move, to get into

random employment authorization queues, and ultimately nothing was going through.

Nothing, all the immigration attorneys that were filing legitimate forms were kind of just sitting around waiting because the agency was so focused on helping the illegal population.

It's left us with a complete mess.

We need to untangle it.

Now, you mentioned those that are going on the government dime.

We just put out yesterday a memo making it abundantly clear that we expect our officers, when they are looking at cases, to look at whether somebody might become, the technical term, a public charge.

If they are, we expect them to deny these cases.

Same with assimilation.

Assimilation is critical.

And we are looking at ways to make the naturalization test more in line with the congressional mandate as to what it should be.

We want to see a real attachment to the Constitution.

We want to be able to measure that.

We want to see real questions that people understand the civic responsibility that it means to become a United States citizen.

And more importantly, we want to see an actual understanding of the English language more than just reading.

and writing a single sentence.

Amen.

Amen.

You are,

I would get up and clap right now if I could.

I have some rapid fire questions for you, Director.

How many people do we naturalize a year?

Roughly a little under a million per year, depending on the

ebb and flow.

Okay.

How many was Joe Biden doing?

You know, I couldn't tell you the actual numbers.

I'll get that for you.

They rushed it, though, right?

They were surging.

It was surging everything.

It was surging getting people employment authorization documents.

It was surging naturalization.

But more so, I don't care about the raw numbers.

What I care about here is the fact that it was a get-to-yes mentality.

It was a rubber stamp for everyone who filed before this agency that they were going to get their benefits.

And frankly, I believe, and I've heard it anecdotally, that my officers were essentially told, get to yes or...

be prepared to very clearly articulate

why you had to deny something.

Listen, I'm not trying to tell my officers to deny.

I'm not telling them to grant.

I am telling them to make sure that the law is

followed, excuse me, that when discretion plays a role, that the discretion that matters, the only discretion that matters is what is in the best interest of this nation and the people of this great nation.

And ultimately, I want to make sure that justice is done.

And that is what I'm trying to do in this agency.

I love it.

And I think you're,

again, there's probably thousands of people hearing the sound of your voice right now clapping and slow clapping and just for putting sanity in place in such a critical node of our federal government.

Another question.

You mentioned English language proficiency.

Is that a standard currently to become a citizen of the United States or to get a green card?

Either or?

Not to get a green card, and we're looking at that.

But in terms of the law right now, as Congress has written it, yes, there is a requirement for naturalization that an alien understand to a degree and read and write English.

However, the way that has been put into practice is with a single sentence that they have to read and a single sentence that they have to write.

I've made it clear that our officers need to take a more dynamic approach.

During the interviews, ask questions.

Say, do you understand

what you're being asked right now?

Can you put this question in your own words and see what comes back?

Now, I have to give my officers credit.

Some have already been doing this for years, but others have not.

They've been following the script, and we need to break them of these bad habits.

And we're doing that.

I've seen the officers now, I've gone to interviews where I saw someone get denied because they clearly did not understand the English language.

That's what we want to see.

What happens when they get denied?

Do they

go ahead?

Do they get to go back home where they're from?

Like, what's the...

Well, no, because they are green card holders.

If they're denied for citizenship and it's because of something like that, there's no fraud in the application.

There's nothing else.

So we really don't have a way to

start removal proceedings.

However, if there are

criminal actions that we found, that's going to be referred.

And that ultimately is going to result in deportation.

Again, you say you're not worried about the numbers.

I get it.

You have a job to do.

You have been tasked to do a job.

And a lot of this is dictated by Congress.

I'm just curious.

If, say, we're doing a million a year, and I know that that number was set back in 1990 with the Immigration Act of 1990, could we do less?

Do we have to do a million a year?

Could we do half a million a year like it was before that?

We can do pretty much anything we want.

If you look at the way that the visa allocations are done under statute for green card holders, so there's no real ceiling or floor for

naturalization, but for green card holders, absolutely.

Congress can mandate that we do less.

We can also view that, which we do, as a ceiling, not necessarily that we have to reach, but that we can't go above.

So, in theory,

in 2026, we've been doing about a million a year.

It puts, I mean, listen, I get the businesses want the work.

I get that there's a lot of pro-immigration pressure.

There's a big lobby there.

But what I'm hearing from the base and for a lot of President Trump's voters is that this is an incredibly animating issue.

They would like less.

So, in theory, in 2026, we could look at that as that two million or that million a year as a ceiling and say, hey, this year we're actually only going to grant 500,000 green cards.

That's within your purview.

You don't have to go write a new law in Congress to do that.

No.

And I think, frankly, with the

the memos that we've already put into place, the guidance that we've given to our field, you're going to see a decline because we're expecting additional screening and vetting.

We're expecting the media, the social media vetting.

We are expecting people to take public charge seriously for the first time ever.

And so I do expect an initial decline because we want to see that these officers are going to be

seriously.

There is so many problems that this is the root problem of, that we're not bringing in people that love us, that share our values, that speak English, that can get on their own two feet from the jump instead of getting on, becoming a public charge.

Director, I wish I could keep you longer.

I mean, this is such a fantastic conversation,

but thank you for making the time today.

And from a grateful nation, thank you for the reforms that you're instituting in this very critical and often overlooked agency within the federal government.

Thank you.

It's only been a month.

Look forward to being back with a lot more updates to come.

Oh, you're welcome back anytime, sir.

We'll have you back anytime.

Just have your people call me.

They know how to reach me.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

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So I'm going to get into last night's dinner.

It was an AI summit dinner.

I mean, this was a who's who

of the

lords of Wall Street and Silicon Valley, but especially Silicon Valley.

We had Sam Altman from Open AI, Tim Cook, we had Google, we had AMD,

we had Meta.

There was even Bill Gates.

The internet is ablaze in anger and frustration at the president for having Bill Gates there, Mr.

Fake Food, and

uh shots he loves shots he loves medicine he loves uh anything artificial um so i get the i get the frustration that guy has a lot of money all right uh and when you're trying to uh increase the economic spend in the country i think it's justifiable but he was one of many and so i want to play some of these uh

these clips because guess what They're all singing the praises of the president.

And we did a whole segment, Charlie did, earlier in the week on China.

China rushes out this massive, massive military parade, and they're sending a message to the world that we're China, we're powerful, we got military stuff, we got nukes, we can hit you, America.

A lot of their munitions are capable of reaching the United States.

So, this is a very, very serious situation.

Yeah, and you see some of these images right now.

But one thing that China does not have,

China does not have a beat on us.

They are not any actually anywhere close.

I know there was the

deep seek situation earlier in the year, but here's what people need to realize is that AI is a fundamentally American advantage right now.

And why?

Partly because of the chips.

The chips.

Now, President Trump has negotiated a deal with AMD where the treasury gets like, I think it's 15%.

Don't quote me.

It might be 10%.

Where the treasury gets money from chip sales to China.

But guess what?

Those chips are like the fourth best chips, and President Trump is mandating that their capacity is degraded by about 50%.

So not only are they getting old chips because Huawei is not capable of producing chips like AMD,

they're getting old chips and they're getting degraded chips.

The goal is to addict China to sub-par chips.

Why that's important?

Huawei can't make chips as good as even the fourth generation chips from AMD.

And it also ensures that American tech companies and AI companies are going to have an advantage.

And they're grateful for it.

Play cut 452.

This is Sam Altman.

We're very grateful to be able to build our company here, to build data centers here, to build the entire AI industry and lead the world in the United States.

Echoing many other people's comments, I think this will transform the world in a profound way.

And I think it really will be to the United States' advantage to be able to lead the world this way.

The event that the First Lady hosted today about education was really wonderful.

And watching what AI is doing even today for education and so many other industries is really great.

So thank you so much for enabling this.

We will invest a ton in the United States

and we will do our best to make sure that we continue to lead here.

Invest a ton in the United States.

He wasn't the only one saying that.

Here's Apple's Tim Cook, Tim Apple, as many call him, 453.

Such that we could make a major investment in the United States and

have some key manufacturing, advanced manufacturing here.

I think that says a lot about your focus and your leadership and your focus on innovation.

I also want to thank you for helping American companies around the world.

This is a very key key thing,

and I

really enjoy working with your administration on those topics as well, because I think they're so important to the country.

How much money will you be investing?

$600 billion.

$600 billion.

All right.

We're very proud to do it.

That's great.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Thank you, sir.

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If you think about those dominoes, that meme where the dominoes can get bigger piece after piece, the dominoes will start to fall.

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Partly, that is because energy prices are so down.

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With me now is a friend from Chicago and a great intrepid reporter who's keeping that city's politicians honest.

And of course, I'm talking about William J.

Kelly, reporter William J.

Kelly.

Sir, welcome to the show.

You are are at a critical, critical place in this country.

It feels like all roads lead to Chicago right now, which is kind of why the city started in the first place.

So maybe it's apropos.

Give us the latest on the ground.

It seems like you're seeing a division where you've got some high-level people on a national level, like Scarborough, we'll play that clip, David Axelrod.

You have people calling on the city to cooperate, but the city's officials and political leaders are digging their heels in.

The floor is yours, William J.

Kelly.

Well, God bless you, Andrew, and thank you for having me.

You're right.

I mean, I've always felt that Chicago is kind of ground zero,

all the way back to when I tried to warn some people about my state senator, Barack Obama, you know, and they all laughed.

Oh, boy, I can still hear the laughter.

But yeah, I mean, whether it's Barack Obama, Rahm Emmanuel,

you know, and just so you know, J.B.

Pritzker, Governor Pritzker has presidential ambitions.

And everything that he's doing right now, the only possible explanation for it is that he thinks it's going to get him the White House.

So that, because there's no other, I mean, there's no, he's a very smart man, make no mistake about it.

He's a billionaire.

And

there's no, but there's no logical explanation for why you would have a safety act, for example.

This is his signature legislation that allows the most violent criminals out on no cash bail, repeated

violent offenders.

I have to give you some do here,

William J.

Kelly, and that is reporterwilliamjkelly.com.

Check him out.

This is a clip from you trying to get answers about some of these very dangerous illegals that he seems to not care about, that are being released to harass, maim, kill, murder,

molest young kids.

I mean, so many of these stories.

It's just terrible.

Let's go ahead and play cut 450.

ICE agents that are on the way.

And again, many of the people who are coming seem to be coming from Los Angeles and having been part of that raid.

So if you want to look at what it is that they're planning to do, you can just look at what they did in Los Angeles.

Megaphones, microphones, go to the ballot box.

Those are all the things that I said.

Let's be clear.

And to the extent that people want to protest, they have that First Amendment right to do so.

All I'm saying, as I said back then, is that you ought to do it peacefully and that you ought to make your voices heard.

Governor Pritzker, a very important question regarding the illegal alien, Jose Luis Mendoza-Gonzalez, that was released under your...

Just walks away.

I mean, these guys, so...

Obviously, he wants to run for president.

He's using this standoff with President Trump as a way to increase his name ID, increase him being viewed as the fighter in his party that they are so desperate to find.

And yet it's pure callousness because he's hurting the people of Chicago and the people of Illinois in order to benefit himself politically, which I think is going to backfire, mind you.

But nevertheless, I want the audience to fully inter he will not answer your question about.

Jose Luis Mendoza Gonzalez.

Who is this man and why did you ask about him?

Well, one of many.

He's an illegal alien.

He is charged with concealing and abusing the corpse of an Illinois mother of two.

Oh, God.

Yeah.

And

he's still under investigation for a variety of other things.

But here's the thing.

Under Pritzker Safety Act, Jose Luis Mendoza Gonzalez, if that's even his real name, nobody, how would we even know, right?

Has been released.

So, I mean, and this is just one of many.

You know, if you are a human being, I mean,

I'm not talking about if you've been elected to protect, which I think is the number one responsibility of all elected officials, to provide safety for citizens, right?

But if you've been elected to do it, if you've been charged with doing that, if you've been hired to do that,

you would think that that would be the number one priority, right?

The only, you know, and then, you know, whatever else, you know, clean streets or something would be like a distant second, right?

But it seems like with our elected officials and of course, Mayor Johnson in Chicago, that this is the least of their interests, you know, from the lockdown and the looting of the race riots that Chicago still hasn't recovered from, by the way.

And then, of course, the big migrant crisis of the last years that bankrupted.

Exactly.

Well, and

there is 500,000 illegals in Chicago.

Is that correct?

At least estimated.

Who knows?

Nobody knows.

You know, we will find out when they vote, right?

That's an extraordinarily high number of illegal immigrants to be in one city.

I mean, when you think about the congestion, when you think about the housing pressure, this pressure on schools, I mean, it's just an incredible burden to place on any taxpaying base, let alone Chicago, which is losing native-born citizens at an alarming clip.

This is what I also find interesting, though.

And I think this is why it's a winning political issue for President Trump.

I mean, crime is like a 90-10 issue.

It's actually about a 99-to-1 issue, according to some polls.

People think it's either a serious problem in urban centers or at least somewhat of a problem.

That's 99%.

Recent poll came out.

But here's what's interesting:

top national Democrats like David Axelrod and Joe Scarborough are beginning to break with the Illinois politicians.

Let's go ahead and play Cup 422.

This is David Axelrod.

I would be careful about playing 28 politics

on this issue because

the right answer is: we'll take all the help we can get as long as it's appropriate help, as long as it's stuff that will really help.

I mean, these National Guardsmen aren't even trained to do that work.

They're not authorized to do that work.

So, you know, send us the resources that we need.

We want to work with you.

If there are criminal,

if there are people doing violent crimes here who are illegal immigrants, we want them out of our city.

We'll work with you on that.

I think that's the appropriate position to take.

Fair enough.

Wow.

Shocking stuff from CNN, but he's not alone.

MSNBC gets into it.

Play cut 446.

You know,

I actually think that J.B.

Pritzker should do something radical.

I think he should pick up the phone, call the president, and say, let's partner up.

These are the most dangerous parts of my state.

We would love to figure out how to have a partnership that's constitutional, that respects

the sort of balance of federalism between the federal government and the state government.

And let's work together to save lives.

Because right now, just the, hey, nothing to see here moving along.

No problem here.

Hey, Donald Trump, we don't need you.

And, you know, the mayor talking about

we're going to protect people's dignity in our city.

We'll protect their lives.

That's protecting their dignity.

Wow.

William J.

Kelly, does Chicago need federal help?

Well, they needed it for the DNC, if you recall.

You were in town, I remember.

Yeah, they had

the Democrat National Convention in Chicago, and they had no trou using...

the National Guard to protect their donors.

Andrew, do you remember?

They had no trouble using the National Guard as

their valets

for their VIP donors, but personal security.

But as

the weekend violence

continued in Chicago with 20, 30, 40, 50.

In some cases,

I remember weekends with 80 people shot.

I mean,

this is beyond third world.

You'd be safer in,

pick a country, Haiti, Somalia.

I don't know.

Pick a country.

Every weekend, the number of people shot and murdered, not to mention assaulted, we have cases, repeat offenders who are arrested, let out of jail, and then they immediately go right back onto

the

punch a woman in the face.

Yeah, I mean, that was a viral story this week, and it's terrible.

But

you're zeroing in on something.

Really important.

I want the audience to fully absorb this.

Most of the violent crime in this country, even most of the petty crime, for that matter, is done by a very small percentage of the population that is continually, like a revolving door, released back onto the streets to maim, hurt, kill, and murder, and rape.

Okay.

And this small group could be permanently locked up, and you would see crime fall like a rock.

You would see it plummet.

Why do Democrats in the city of Chicago seem to love crime so much, William J.

Kelly?

Well, the really sad fact of the matter is that that small group is growing because a lot of the illegals are now strangling women in the street, just on the sidewalk and in the middle of the morning.

But, William, I was told that illegal immigrants commit less crime than Americans.

Well, you know, maybe that's because they're not being charged and convicted.

So, of course, you know, statistics are funny things, right, Andrew?

Yeah, absolutely.

William J.

Kelly, you are at a really important time in a really important city, at a confluence of really powerful forces.

Please keep covering it.

Tell people where they can follow your work.

The floor is yours.

ReporterWilliam J.

Kelly.com.

Believe it or not, I have a legal defense fund.

Go fund me on that page.

I've literally been threatened by the mayor's office

to have my credential, my media credential revoked.

I've had this happen before under Lightfoot.

So anyone who wants to keep me in the press, reporterwilliamjkelly.com.

Good for you.

God bless you, brother.

Keep up the good work.

Keep holding their feet to the fire.

This is a developing story.

We're going to keep covering it, and

we hope cooler heads will prevail.

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I want to bring up a story.

And we started the whole hour with immigration.

Fantastic conversation.

If you didn't get it, please get the podcast

with

the guy that's responsible for issuing all our visas and green cards and citizenship citizenship in the country.

But there's a new piece of news that just broke this morning, and

it goes like this.

President Trump is considering a proposal to block U.S.

IT companies from outsourcing their work to Indian companies.

A move that could, quote unquote, wreck Indian IT sector and cost millions of jobs.

Now, let me explain why I love this.

This

is

part of restoring the compact that the American government should have with the American citizen.

We have outsourced our jobs overseas.

We've outsourced our car manufacturing facilities.

We've outsourced the ability to make vitamin C to China.

Anything where you make something has been outsourced.

But guess what?

It wasn't just making hard things that has been outsourced.

It's been services.

It's been tech services.

It's been white-collar jobs that are getting outsourced.

And why?

Because companies that are making billions and billions of dollars that have market caps in the trillions have decided that it's worth more compliant labor.

It costs them less.

They're going to make a few extra bucks, just a few marginal difference rate of return to ship your job overseas.

Now, let's remember what's actually going on.

And now I'm a free market guy, but within reason.

And regulations can be powerful and they can be effective.

Tariffs can be powerful and effective when properly utilized.

But if you are a company that is benefiting from the United States, our unparalleled capital markets, our rule of law, equal protection under that law, stability, a talented workforce, innovation, a history of pioneering not only the West, but technology, landing on the moon, all of these things.

If you are going to be a company that benefits by being birthed and seated out of this country, then you have a moral obligation as one of the elites, one of the moneyed gentry class to reinvest your wealth, your success in the human capital of this country.

And if you choose not to, tariff.

We are going to make it so expensive on you if you are a company that's trying to make a literally like marginal more money out of this so that we can talk to a tech worker in India.

If that is your company, you have a moral obligation, like those in the Gilded Age that reinvested their great wealth that they accumulated off the backs of this country, off the backs of the labor class.

If that is you, you have a responsibility to reinvest in this country.

I love this.

I love this so much.

And while we're at it, it is time to

reform and possibly abolish the H-1B visa scam.

There's about 400,000 visas that are given out as part of the H-1B scam every year, and 75% of those are consumed by one country, and that's India.

Now, God bless them.

A lot of them are great workers.

They're kind people.

But what we are seeing in towns like Frisco, Texas, I was just in Frisco.

You go to the mall there, and it's all Indians.

That is a city that has been completely demographically changed overnight.

And why?

H-1B.

Tech workers.

They're not always, you know, people that are better at the job than Americans, but they're more compliant.

They'll work for free, or well, close, they'll work for less.

And all they want is to be able to come over here because India has got billions of people.

It's a crazy place.

You can get ahead here more.

I understand why they want to come, but I understand why the base, why the Trump voter wants to protect American jobs.

We do not want American workers having to train their replacements that come from India on an H-1B.

So, all of this is very, very good.

And I'm telling you, the elephant in the room is not illegal immigration.

We're getting our handle on that.

We got to get our deportations up, certainly.

And self-deportations are going strong.

What we got to do is we got to fix legal immigration in this country.

Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

We'll talk to you soon.

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