THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 98 — The Comey Indictment? Antifa Agenda? Charlie and the Cubs?

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The pursuit of Thoughtcrime continues as Tyler, Jack, Andrew, and Blake react to the breaking news of James Comey's indictment. They tie the prosecution to the DOJ's potential plans for going after Antifa, then discuss the admin's anti-Tylenol warnings and the hysterical Reddit meltdown after a Cubs player attended Charlie's memorial.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we are back.

Hey everybody, for this Thursday's edition of Thought Crime.

We are here in, of course, where else would we be?

The Charlie Kirk Studio.

We have four members of the Thought Crime posse with us.

The fifth is on assignment from God.

And

we are here on a day such as this where the breaking news is really a thought crime itself.

And so when we were sort of chatting

around the mic here, what did we talk about?

And I said, guys,

it's Comey.

It's all Comey.

We have to dig into this.

So let's go around the horn.

I'm here.

I'm Jack.

Got Andrew.

Blake Neff, the great Twitter star, Blake Neff, whose microphone is nowhere near him for some reason.

You know, we usually use those, Blake.

Well, it's funny.

No, it's his first episode.

Oh, wait.

You have to name the last one before I say what I was going to say.

Oh, and of course,

Tylenolboyer.

Boyer.

Tyler Allery.

Tylenol Boyer.

Tylenol changes Lylan All.

Changes all boy.

That's why your mom named you that, right?

My mom named me Tyler Nall.

Tyler Nall.

Tyler.

So, you know, it's funny.

So we, so we've been obviously hosting the Charlie Kirk show here.

We've been hosting human events daily with Jack Pisobic here.

And now we're hosting...

Thought crime here.

And I walk in and Blake is sitting in my chair.

And I was like, hey, that's my children.

I saw this.

This actually happened.

But Blake is very terrible.

Blake went full autist and you were like full Tylenol.

Full Tylenol.

And then he goes to the Tism and

he goes, no, this is where I sat every time we did the Talk Crime.

And I was like, you know what?

Every single talk crime.

Right here.

Fair enough.

My seat.

My seat.

Tyler there.

And then...

Obviously, the big man there.

And then fourth person if we had him in studio.

Yeah.

Usually I'd be there.

I was tempted to be

a little butthurt.

And then I was like, you know what?

Maybe we should even like rotate you because that way then you're kind of honorarily still in your weird like oh you want me you like put me in like the closet and like just go on the microphone.

We need to communicate with Starfleet here.

Yeah, exactly.

I do kind of wish I could see the thing behind me.

No, my favorite one.

It's kind of similar to where you're at anyways because when you're remote, you're on the screen.

So we look that direction at you anyway.

No, but do you remember

there was an episode?

It wasn't a thought crime, but it was an election stream where we had the camera angle set sort of straight and I think the TV was like a little lower, and

Bannon was on the TV, and it looked like he was sitting in the middle of all of us because of the way the angles were.

I have a picture of it somewhere.

It's really cool.

It turned out the wrinkles much more.

No, I actually liked that, though.

I thought that looked kind of cool.

You know what I love, by the way, is that it still has

you and Charlie's face in the background.

I thought about that.

I thought about that.

It's kind of awesome.

So, and by the way, and we're looking at the video screen right here, and

every single network right now James Comey indicted James Comey indicted two counts I gotta say I'm just gonna say it first off

Pam Bondi came through Pambody came through this is something where I know she's faced a lot of criticism in her position but look

this is possibly one of the biggest steps towards righting The scales of justice in America.

We've had this two-tiered system or three-tiered system in some cases.

I'm excited to hear Blake's take on this, but yes,

and James Comey played a big part of that.

He played a very, very big part of that.

And I just got to say off the top, hats off to Pam Bonnie for doing this.

So, you know what's the first thing I thought of when the news broke?

That you might get indicted?

I thought of, no, thank goodness, no.

You know what I thought of, though, was

when

James Comey was on with Jen Pasaki and

was asking, well, what happens if Trump

gets elected, but then he's still

convicted of a crime?

And he was like, well,

we could put him in

a special trailer out in the prison yard.

And

there's special dispensations for that.

And I don't know why that was the memory that flooded back into my head.

You joke about it.

Other than the fact that it was the arrogance that these people exhibited, and

now we're learning from this indictment.

We should go over what we're learning in the indictment, but that he was actively leaking all this stuff to the press, and we knew that.

I mean, we knew that from before.

We used memos, and I think it was

Ben.

But he kind of

denied it, or he played coy, and he was parsing his words, and it was all very transparent, but he was doing what a spook does, and he basically was

playing the audience.

And so I just,

the arrogance of going, we're going to lock President Trump up in the past.

Hey, hey, man, not all spooks.

Not all spooks.

Yeah, but we're going to lock him up in a courtyard, and he's going to be able to work out and, you know, shower and all this stuff, even as President of the United States locked up.

I mean, it was just the arrogance of this man.

And so there is a little bit of

visceral kind of like,

this feels right, but I want to hear Blake's take on it before we go.

Well,

before we do takes, let's get, and Blake is always the best at this.

What do we know about these indictments?

Exactly.

So the indictment is pretty short, so we can basically read the whole thing.

So this is the indictment.

The United States of America versus James B.

Comey Jr.

So count one is false statements within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the United States government.

That is lying to Congress, but in fancy speak.

In the jurisdiction of Congress.

In the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the United States government.

It's so good.

So

on or about September 30th, 2020, in the Eastern District of Virginia, the defendant, James Comey, did willfully and knowingly make make a materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statement in a matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the U.S.

government by falsely stating to a U.S.

senator during a judiciary committee hearing that he, James Comey, had not authorized, not, quote, authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports regarding an FBI investigation concerning person one.

Who could person one?

Person one was always Trump.

Person one was always Trump.

Two.

And then they say that statement was false because, as James Comey knew then and there, he had, in fact, authorized person three

to serve as an anonymous source in news reports regarding an FBI investigation concerning person one, all in violation of Agent U.S.

Code 1000.

I heard person three was Andrew McCabe.

Is that it is almost certain that this is Andrew McCabe was leaking things to the press at the instigation, at the approval of Comey, and that he then allegedly

Andrew McCabe would, or would he have sent a dispatched sort of one of his little minions to do so?

Or is it just that he dispatched it, so he's still personal?

Yeah, that may be the same thing, right?

Is that he had his own people who, I mean, those people could be working with the, you know, with the prosecutors.

Now, that said, though, if he was doing that

with the authorization of the director of the FBI, would that be a crime?

Well, if it was confidential information, if it was classified information, it still would be, by the way.

Yeah.

For the record.

And then they have count two obstruction of a congressional proceeding on or about September 30th, 2020, same day.

This is a date he testified before the Senate.

Okay, so it's the same.

In the case here in District of Virginia, James Comey did corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct, and impede the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which an investigation was being had before the Senate Judiciary Committee by making false and misleading statements before that committee in violation of 18 U.S.

Code 1505.

So basically, they're double-tapping him.

They're saying by saying a false statement to Congress, he lied to Congress and engaged in obstruction of what Congress was investigating.

So was it obstruction of Congress or obstruction of justice?

It is obstruction of a congressional proceeding.

So I believe this was the same one that was used for a lot of the J6ers, isn't that right?

That was obstruction of an official proceeding.

I think that's slightly different.

But it might be under the same.

I'm going to go.

I'll go check that.

Let's see what it is.

Or it might be like a sister statute or something.

It's very close.

I think obstruction of a official proceeding is a bit different because that covered like let's see federal law uh u.s code 1512 this is 1505 so

uh let's see obstruction of a

15

obstruction of pending proceeding 18 u.s code 1505 maybe they did get him on the same one

that would be no because i remember i talked to julie kelly about that so many times and we were talking about the construction of that statute and how it was made, and, you know, really what the purpose of it was, et cetera, et cetera.

And so I just, I remember that,

you know, that string.

I'm so not a lawyer, but I remember that code.

Yeah, it's interesting.

It's poetic, although it is also interesting they're going for that simply from the fact that I know one of the legal cases in J6 was kind of premised on the fact that

I believe

it because the obstruction of official proceeding law was apparently intended to cover like almost terrorism type stuff.

Like you're attacking, like you're burning documents, you're destroying things, you're doing like really big aggressive stuff, and that's why it can cover a 20-year penalty.

And it probably, they argued, wasn't meant to cover lesser things like base, you know, what J6 was, where they just kind of broke in and like were hooligans for a while.

And some who were not.

Some were not.

Some were not.

But that's how they were.

They were getting tons of people on the, you know, oh, you obstructed the proceeding by walking in and making Congress run away for a bit.

I just, I just want to say that again.

So it looks like, it looks like that James Comey was indicted under the same code the J Sixers were.

Just saying.

There's some

sweet poetic

justice there.

Well, that makes it really difficult for all the people.

And now, how are they going to argue against it when they said they were all for it when it was?

Well, so,

Blake, I want you to chime in on something that you have,

I think, beat into my head over the last however many years.

You do not want to fly off the cuff, willy-nilly, with half-baked crap against your political opponents because then you're starting to get into Banana Republic territory.

I don't think this is half-baked at all.

Well, so I'm not saying it is.

I'm saying, as a general rule, Blake is always geared that way.

He's sort of assuming that there is a cartoonish, clownish character that

can emerge when we're trying to seek justice or vengeance.

When Black Pill Blake, by the way.

Black Pill Blake, Contrarian Blake.

But no, but it's a good break to a gas pedal.

You've got to have both pedals to drive the car and not get into a cat crash, okay?

So

looking at the details, Blake, would you put it in the

half-baked, gun half-cocked, or would you put this in the...

This looks pretty well thought out, and they've taken their time, and they've done,

it's pretty open and shut.

Well, so contextually, one reason it's dropped now is the statute of limitations for what they've charged him with actually expires next tuesday so they basically had to do this it was now or never in terms of dropping it so at the least it's not it's not rushed out in that sense they could not have delayed it more um and so hopefully they've lined a lot of this up i worry if the charges are strong enough uh it's basically like you know it says so if they can basically prove that he directed people to leak things and that that is criminal, as we understand.

So this means McCabe might have to testify against him.

That would be very interesting, yes.

Because if he's person three and he was direct, so directed, then McCabe would have to testify.

That's his only way out.

That's his only way to

McCabe's only way out.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

So he'd have to testify.

And if he doesn't, then, oh, by the way, you're going to the same place Bannon Navarra went.

That's right.

As long as that

holds true.

Well, and

I mean, if he is person three, then yeah.

Yeah.

Now, a thing I saw that did, it gave me pause.

I saw a few people say it on X where they immediately said, You and I were talking about this, Jack.

Someone said, like, give him a perp walk on live TV.

And all I would say is, if your goal of indicting someone is to get the perp walk of them,

you might want to cool it down a bit.

That's when it goes into that

cartoon character.

Yeah, you don't, you don't.

A lot of people, they want the pageantry, they want the imagery, they love people are kind of like people are upset.

They like they are, and they like the TV image of the people who have hurt us, who have done things that have infuriated us, you know, justifiably.

Justifiably.

Justifiably.

And then they like the idea of them facing justice.

But I would, again, caution people.

Justice is not making Comey do a perp walk.

Justice is finding the truth.

And if he breaks,

finding him guilty and holding him to account for him.

Anyone can search my Twitter.

I'm against perp walks.

I've always been against them.

I find them prejudicial.

If someone's guilty, find them guilty.

Just find them guilty and take it to trial and put it out there.

I've just, I've always had this.

I said it for like Harvey Weinstein.

I said it for a number of people on the left.

I'm just not for Report Brocks.

And so, and just to caution everyone,

remember where we were two years ago, they indicted Donald Trump on a bunch of things.

And

they were extremely happy about it at the time.

They walked him down Fifth Avenue.

They gloated about the mug shop.

They gloated about every single day.

They were legal theories and this.

Yes.

They overreached and it absolutely sent the right bonkers.

It guaranteed he was going to get the nomination.

I mean, he almost certainly was anyway, but it 100% ended the primary.

It gave huge impetus to everyone on the right, and it continued to do that because so much of the case was a clown show with Big Fanny, with Alvin.

And this is not a novel legal theory here, though.

It is not.

This is far more

straight, grounded,

false statements and instructions.

It feels very sort of...

cut and dry in a sense.

Like it's a very simple thing they're alleging.

Yeah, it is a simple allegation.

It's a simple thing they're alleging.

It's something that people have been prosecuted before.

Like, oh, you're basically masterminding leaks.

Do we know what he leaks?

We've convicted people of what we know what he leaked.

Do we leave these memos?

He leaked the memos to who and what were the leaves?

No, no, no, no.

Actually, wait, blame I'll ask.

This isn't about the memos because it's about someone being an anonymous FBI source in news reports.

So

what's interesting is that the

content of what was leaked isn't brought up in the indictment here.

It's more the

discussions around how the leak occurred.

So it's one of those examples where it's like, the cover-up is worse than the crime, right?

So it's not the crime that gets you, it's the cover-up that gets you.

So because he lied in the investigation of this leak, that's what they're getting him on.

And so we'd have to go back and

we should find the,

I'm sure people have already found because it has the date of the hearing.

So I'm sure we could pull up

what he was talking about.

I think I know where I can find that.

The internet.

So you know what's interesting about Comey, though, which is which is a

which is just an interesting piece of the Comey saga, right?

He's a jouchbag.

Well, he does really come off like one.

But secondly, he

you know,

he had that moment with Hillary Clinton that probably helped President Trump, right, in 2016 where he said we're opening the investigation into the email servers.

Yeah, but he's also the guy who

shut it down.

Well, they hated him.

Then they welcomed him back on MSNBC, etc.

But it's just like it's an interesting,

he's traveled a circuitous route, right?

And he was sort of long known to be a Republican.

Yeah, he was kind of like, well, Blake, you probably remember this.

Do you remember,

Blake, who came up with the phrase Ferguson effect?

Oh, gosh, who was it, Richard?

James Comey.

Really?

James Comey.

Yeah.

I don't know if he is the initial person to come up with it, but he certainly used it and popularized it.

And James Comey used to talk about the version.

The FBI has thousands of people in it.

It feels weird how Comey is this forest gump guy who just keeps popping up everywhere.

Yeah, and I remember he was never an FBI agent.

I think he was a DOJ.

He was like a lower attorney and then eventually got plucked out of that.

And he was the successor to Mueller.

And then he, you know, he, you know, came up through those ranks.

But he was, yeah, he was someone who was known, known, quote unquote, as a Republican prior to all of this.

But he's one of those like, like MSNBC Republicans.

He's a Republican who took all of the changes of the 2010s very hard.

And he went from being this like six foot five.

How tall?

Six's eight.

Six, eight.

Yeah.

So he's basically he went from being.

Literally, him and Glenn Young were the only guys in the game taller than John.

Yeah, he went from like tall Republican prosecutor to

Baron's giant.

I mean, you just kind of look at him with like his like, this is what a feminist looks like shirts or whatever it was he had.

He was at one one of those, he was at one of those women's marches, wasn't he?

I don't remember that part.

I just remember that what didn't make it.

He made that 86.

It wouldn't surprise me.

He did the 8647 thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which is psycho.

Which is, yeah.

And he played dumb.

Like, I just played like, oh, I didn't know what that meant.

I thought it meant like, cancel Trump.

Well, get him out of here.

Yeah, no.

Yeah, no.

Give him the hook.

Yeah, and this is after, you know, the assassination attempts on President Trump.

Yeah, and now,

and I mean.

And that even, I mean, that plays into the run-up here with Charlie's assassination, which is like, it's guys like James Comey that were publicly calling for the elimination of public officials.

Yeah.

And

this is why it's so sick and twisted, and it should make everyone angry.

And we need to turn that, as we talk about, we need to turn that anger into action.

But

that animosity that these people had are what has stoked

the flames that have turned into hurting people.

And,

you know, and that's aside from what he's

being

accused, though.

Breaking former FBI director James Comey is expected to surrender tomorrow morning.

That's per CNN.

So he will turn himself in.

And, well, Blake, one of the things that I should also mention in the sense that

based on what we know now, the fact that it's in the Eastern District of Virginia is likely an attempt to get it out of the D.C.

district, where, of course, we know the D.C.

jury pool is, and, it is what it is, right?

It's part of the system where it's 96%.

We should probably pull it up for the 2024 election.

It's just full-on Democrat.

Every single Jay Sixer, I think there was 100% conviction rate.

And on the flip side, there was 100% conviction rate for Bannon.

There would have been for Trump, for Roger Stone, for General Flynn's situation.

He would have been found guilty, et cetera, et cetera.

So

we know how bad that jury pool is.

You know, it just occurs to me,

this feels feels like it could be a long-running issue in U.S.

justice or what have you.

Like, obviously, most big criminal cases are filed in big urban areas, southern district of New York.

I know where you're going with this, and you're exactly right.

And it's going to be, it seems like a serious problem if when our political polarization has grown to such a degree that you have a 90-10 jury pool.

of potential people almost always weighted in favor of another party.

Right, so how are you going to get a jury of your peers when you're already stacked to have a jury that's completely against you because this is a political prosecution?

It's a 90-10.

Yeah, whereas, by the way, the Eastern District of Virginia, it's known as the Rocket Docket.

It's known for being a quick, you know, quick procedures there.

And by the way, it has been historically used for national security crimes.

So this is something that there's so much of the national security

industry is there.

The judges

is the big thing.

I mean, we saw that with a lot of people.

So it's not like you're just jury shopping.

Like, it's literally known for this.

Right.

Well, but we, you know, the judges is where it really matters.

I mean, juries obviously matter, but so much of this happens at the judicial level, right?

I mean, you saw this with Eileen Campbell.

Well, and you're also looking at it from, to your point, at the appeals circuit's

play here.

Yeah, correct.

No, so I mean, listen, my instinct here is that

the so, and maybe Blake, you would disagree with this, but my instinct here is that you've got Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi under an excruciating amount of pressure to come up with the goods, right?

The base wants

consequences and accountability for what we lived through during the Biden years, and goodness was there a lot of it.

And it seems like they waited longer than would be politically advantageous for them, right?

Because their jobs are on the line, right?

I mean, they're wondering, are we going to get fired by President Trump any day soon?

And so they took time.

Obviously, the statue's running out, but they you got to believe that when Dan Bongino would hint, like, trust me, things are coming, or

Mike Davis would go on and be like, Guys, I'm in the loop, just chill out, things are coming.

Everybody, just bide your time.

This is definitely one of the things that they've been working on, and I got to believe that whether it sticks or not, they're putting their best foot forward with the

best, easiest case that they can probably do, right?

To get a to get a big-name, you person that has wronged

conservatives.

So

I would think I, all that to say, I think I put a relatively high amount of confidence in the fact that they probably have a pretty good case here.

And so much of this we knew already.

I actually was, one of the things I first went viral for back in 2017 was dinging Comey on false statements because he would do this all the time.

He would say things in one testimony and then he'd say things in the next testimony.

One time he said, I never felt coercion or pressure to end an investigation.

And the very very next time he went before Congress, he said, I felt pressured to

end the Russian investigation.

Well, by the way,

that is a hallmark of a liar, which this is essentially what they're accusing him of doing, lying in an official proceeding.

But a hallmark of a liar is that it's very, very difficult to keep the lie straight, even for a trained professional.

So I'm looking at, we already have kind of.

This is a very important thing.

Could I already have to respond to

what

it's

they didn't just go after Trump.

They went after Trump supporters.

They went after after people in the states.

They went after Tyler.

They went after Tyler.

They indicted Tyler.

And there was definitely coordination.

We actually have some news on that this week.

It's been great.

No, I mean, you've been fighting it, but

you've had to spend insane.

I'm just going to like, like, I know you don't want to talk about it.

I got to say it.

No, this is

insane amounts of money.

This is actually a great Charlie moment.

Insane amounts of money.

When the indictment came down on

Tyler, yeah, Charlie was like.

For signing a piece of paper.

We got your back, dude.

There's no daylight.

We have you.

Like, you're not in this alone.

I remember when he,

like, when the news came and you were kind of like,

freaky.

Yeah.

It's, it was a Pucker Factor 8.

Like, I think you.

I was traveling.

I was in Michigan.

I was at the Detroit airport, which is a horrible place.

But you're already Pucker Factor 6 there.

Charlie instantly chimed in

through a chat and he said, I got you, bro.

100%.

And I honestly.

That's not what he said to me.

He said, cut him loose.

No,

he said that to me.

That was kids.

The funny part, I was in Michigan during all this because of the Michigan thing, but

I was, I mean, without a doubt, and this is all throughout all the years, Charlie always had my back and had always been the first to defend and everything else.

And

there's no worse feeling than when the entire government's coming after you.

And Charlie was the first, like, we've got you 100%.

And,

and, yeah, I, and now you've had some good news.

I had to live with that.

And we had some good news.

Like, literally, the, like, the day after

the appeal that the so I

my motion to remand back to the grand jury because they didn't bring sufficient evidence to prosecute all of us

got approved.

It got basically remanded and the state was appealing and the appeal got denied straight up this week.

So

they have to start all over and we'll see what they do.

So

we know in Michigan just recently they knocked this whole thing off.

But again,

that's so many people.

And by the way, like, okay, you know, you're an official at turning point, God, at turn point action.

But so many of these people are just like

county committee members and, you know, just regular

senior citizens.

You were the biggest target that they could get.

Everybody else was like, it was like there was a state chairman.

You know, like, and all you did was say, like, hey, public officials.

In the case that this, you know, some of our Trump's legal proceedings prove fruitful, then we want to make sure, because of the laws, that we have this backup in place.

That's all you did.

Is it legal theory that we're going back to the 1960 election with Hawaii?

Exactly.

The Democrats actually came up with this whole idea of, you know, of having, making sure, and again, it makes sense when you have close elections.

What you don't want to have happen in any of these states, and I can't get into too many of the details, but what you don't want to have happen is it be like within a few thousand votes, and then they realize they did something wrong or they miscounted or whatever.

And remember, this is during COVID when all these new rules got put in place, all these bail-in ballots.

And so a lot of people had come to us and said, hey, we're not totally sure that everything is like on the up and up here.

People like Bob Spindell up in Wisconsin.

In case of emergency, Bob,

you guys better have your paperwork ready.

The way I frame it is imagine if the papers aren't ready, how mad the president will be, how mad the

multiple

voters will be if you basically don't do the right thing.

And people don't remember.

It was like basically 43,000 votes across, or 42,000 votes across three states.

Yeah.

Here in Arizona.

10,000 votes.

10,000.

Blake, what were you going to say?

Oh, so I just wanted to flag another breaking news item that has happened in relation to this is we kind of, the way they're going to hype this up, we have a

deputy U.S.

attorney or assistant U.S.

Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia.

He has filed a letter to uphold my oath to the Constitution and country.

I hereby resign as an assistant United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia in the Department of Justice effective immediately

Troy Edwards Jr.

Now, what is funny is apparently Troy Edwards Jr.

is Comey's son-in-law.

There it is.

That does.

His daughter, who was a prosecutor for

SDNY, just got fired.

I can hear Jenzaki now saying,

this is

affront to the rule of law.

We should pull some of the response.

I'm sure these clips are going to be great.

I know it's like happening right now.

Ryan Riley, can you guys get some, please?

I'm sure they're blubbering up there.

It's just like,

we live in a dictatorship and the tyranny of, yeah, well, okay.

Could you imagine being indicted just for your politics?

And it's like, literally.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

This is why I'm talking about Tyler, and like Tyler hates talking about it, but whatever.

Sorry, Tylenol.

Well, I just pop another one.

I didn't talk about a lot of it.

No, I know, I know.

But pop another Tylenol.

You'll be all right.

Someday we'll be able to talk a lot about it.

Yeah, yeah.

But it's that story that you have still this platform to be able to say, and obviously have, you know, and having the backing of an organization to be able to fight that.

Average people who went up against 1,600 people were mass indicted over J6.

People were, you know, in some cases, lost their jobs over COVID.

Some people lost even more than that over COVID.

Donald Trump and anyone associated with him, people were losing their law licenses.

People are still losing their law licenses.

People were indicted.

People were sued.

There was mass insanity for four years.

And every single time, it was some novel legal theory or some star chamber or some nonsense thing that nobody could even understand what the indictment was.

And this one is, it's so simple.

You lie to Congress.

FBI director lied to Congress.

And let's be frank, even though this, as far as I know, is the first time that an FBI director has been indicted, it's probably not the first time that an FBI director or CIA director has lied to Congress.

And we certainly know that John Brennan or people like J.

Edgar Hoover, the original director of the FBI, had a complete habit of this.

You know, they used to say that J.

Agrego Hoover would turn off the congressional wiretaps right before he went to testify so that when he testified, he wouldn't be lying when he said, oh, no, I would never wiretap members of Congress.

And it's insane.

It's totally insane.

And his name's on the building, which should be completely raised, by the way.

And brick by brick.

The 65 Project.

That's what I was thinking.

The 65 Project.

They have all these names.

Yeah, but it's the organization that was working to disbar lawyers who defended Donald Trump.

I mean, this was like what it was like a full.

lawyers.

Yeah, you couldn't even.

Trump was having trouble getting lawyers because there was organizations that were well-funded that were working to disbar his lawyers.

This is how deep it went.

It was like

to other lawyers.

Totally.

It was, absolutely.

If you're a lawyer and you're like, I don't need the billable hours,

I don't need the controversy that comes with that.

No, yeah, to any firm, white shoe, but he fought through it.

He fought through it.

I'm not going to want to say, oh, I don't want to do this.

I don't want to be involved with that.

I don't want to be associated.

Because it's a fear tactic.

And this is actually in that clip of Charlie that Mikey posted recently about why Republicans are so scared to go on offense.

Have you guys seen that going around?

Yeah, I'm from Nebraska.

This is what he talks about.

He said, you know, he says, look at what they did to Bannon.

Look at what they did.

He's talking about lawfare.

And he's talking about how it creates a chilling effect for Republicans that nobody wants to ever, I'm going to have to use the phrase, stick their neck out.

And

because they don't want to be the next one.

They don't want to be the next Bannon.

They don't want to be the next, I think he says James O'Keefe and they don't want to be the next Donald Trump because they're terrified of standing out.

Because when you stand out, you get cut down.

And he explained the effect it had across all levels.

Was he relating that to the Cornhusker thing?

Yeah, he was relating it to like taking offense in Nebraska for winter takeoff.

So, and this is really important.

This actually relates really similarly to Jimmy Kimmel.

And I'll explain how.

So, this week, we saw the left lose their mind when Jimmy Kimmel got

basically questioned, very basically questioned for what he was saying and doing on his platform.

Remember, the left went after the individual.

They went after individual conservatives and deplatformed them, de-banked them, did all these things.

It wasn't the big guys.

It was the small guys in most cases that they were going, the individual.

And that's my point.

It was the small guys.

In this same issue, they were going after the small people and indicting the small people and knocking the small people, whacking those moles all across the country and taking out the legs out from underneath the conservative movement.

And it wasn't the, in most cases, it wasn't all just the big guys.

It was the small guys they were getting rid of.

And this, now they're all losing their mind over James Comey.

The Comey-Kimmel situation this week is so similar in the fact that the left had gone after the grassroots of this country, the average citizen trying to, just like Jack is saying, trying to dissuade them from participating from the civic and civic engagement, basic civic engagement.

And then at the same time, they're wanting to protect

the biggest

arbiters in these problems that are really trashing and hurting the country.

And they want to get away with it, and they shouldn't be able to.

Real quick, real quick.

By the way, there's a bunch of video, I guess.

Jack, just really quick.

I just want to say, thank you, Crochet Queen.

She donated $50.

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Charlie has brought my husband and I back to reading the Bible.

God bless you, Crochet Queen.

Thank you.

We're so happy to hear that.

And Charlie always loved every time he heard someone said they were going to church, reading the Bible, taking their faith more seriously because of what they'd seen or heard from him.

And

we love that that's continuing.

Do you have more?

Oh, no, that's all we have.

All right, well, if there's more, keep them coming in.

Blake will find them.

Blake will read them, and we will shut up so that your voice can be on the air through our rumble rumble rants.

I just wanted to give a shout out to Greg Price because he's pulled what we believe to be the moment of,

and we have the video, we'll get the video in a second of what Comey lied about.

It was the Steele dossier, so that's what we were thinking.

So his tweet reads, James Comey told Congress in September 2020 that the Steele dossier was not used in the 2016, the ICA, this intelligence community assessment on the Russia hoax.

And this was the big thing, right?

This came out publicly.

It was reported on, uh at least in the unclassified format that uh there you know the intelligence community remember 16 agencies 17 agencies over and over and over they assessed that russia hacked the election that russia hacked the election and comi told them that it did not involve the steel dossier well what do we put together with that Tulsi Gabbard, go back to July of 2025 when she released those unclassified emails and documents from how this was created.

She found that the Steele dossier was directly cited.

And specifically, it was, remember, those Obama officials telling them that it wasn't real.

And if I remember correctly, there were pretty high-level members of the FBI.

The FBI was part of this ICA.

So, one of those 17 agencies that's under the ODNI is the FBI.

So, the FBI was part of this.

So, there's no question that James Comey certainly would have not only been part of the initial process, but you'd want to review something like that before you go to Congress.

247.

Not been verified.

I don't know whether it was Brennan.

I remember being told that the group's view was it was significant enough and consistent enough with other intelligence that it ought to be included, but it wasn't sufficiently corroborated to be in the body of the intelligence community assessment.

So they put a brief summary of it in an annex.

Wow.

And oh, we got another one.

Bell CM1 donated $50.

I just want to say you guys are doing a great job.

You know it.

Charlie knows it.

And so do all of us.

So proud of all of you and thankful for you.

We're thankful for you, Belle.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate that.

And

we know that.

We have Comey is giving a response to this as well.

Is it loaded up?

Looks like it is.

Let's play Comey's response.

248.

My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way.

We will not live on our knees, and you shouldn't either.

Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant, and she's right.

But I'm not afraid, and I hope you're not either.

I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does.

My heart is is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent.

So let's have a trial and keep the faith.

He just reminds me of it.

Every time they talk, it's like

very much I am in a TV show, like possibly one on TV.

He reminds me so much of like Jeff Flake and Mitt Romney, and like he's all those people.

Liz

Cheney, no, and Liz Cheney, and like these guys that like, in the same way, when they

went after Trump so hard, and then they had to come back.

And like the guys down in Georgia,

what's his name that left?

Raffensburger.

Not Raffensburger, the other one that left the party.

That was the...

That left the party, Purdue?

Purdue?

No, no, no, no.

Purdue didn't leave the party.

No, there was a...

I'm blanking right now.

Like a state rep or something?

I think he was pretty high up.

But anyways, long story short.

Not worth remembering.

Yeah, not worth remembering.

All these guys, but they all seem to be.

Not going to remember yet.

They all have a look about them.

It's like this really sheepish, guilty look when they're like, the trips are woke.

But let's put this in context.

What he's being accused of lying about

is,

as Roger Stone puts it, the greatest dirty trick in American history.

And what is that dirty trick?

It's that they basically realized the Steele dossier was garbage.

And yet there was a meeting.

I forget the exact date.

It was in December of 2016.

So the election has happened.

Donald Trump's about to take over as president, and they get to work sabotaging the elected representative of the people to lead the country.

And it was a free world.

And who was it that briefed the steel dossier to Donald Trump?

It was James Comey.

James Comey.

So this isn't like, this isn't an example of some low-level functionary or, you know, someone who's got no culpability, wrong place, the wrong time.

No, you were the individual, James Comey, who, through your own actions, by the way, we never really found who it was that leaked that to Jake Tapper, by the way, because it was Jake Tapper on CNN, who's very, very upset that CNN had me on this week.

He's like screaming about it behind the scenes over there.

Is he really?

He has been, yes.

100% confirmed.

And

that's what gave the steel dossier, quote-unquote, legs, right?

You remember that?

Because before it was like, oh, it's the dirty dossier.

Nobody wants to talk about it.

There's no action items here.

It's really weird.

The Moscow stuff didn't make any sense, really.

And so this is hilarious.

Well, keep in mind that.

And then suddenly, suddenly, James Comey briefs it to the president.

And the very next day, just about, Jake Tapper goes up on TV, Jake Taper, and says, This was briefed to the president.

This is very important.

This was briefed to the president.

It's very important.

And then BuzzFeed publishes it in full, I think, like a day after.

BuzzFeed still exists?

Not BuzzFeed News.

I think they had to take it down.

But Ben Smith does

semaphore now.

So

much better.

The reason why I bring up those names, though, Andrew, is because never forget Senator McCain's involvement here.

He was the one that was the one that handed it off.

He was the one that received it in,

I think it was in Canada.

Yeah, it was at one of those,

it was like a defense forum.

He was at a defense forum, and somebody randomly came up to him and gave it to him.

That was some head of state from somewhere.

And he was the one that delivered it.

And that's why I bring up those names because all of those names revolved around that man, our late senator here in Arizona, John McCain.

Just an interesting point, right?

That was like the last final,

you know,

you know, everyone remembers the thumbs down on the getting rid of

Obamacare.

This is also one of the biggest, most.

Yeah, I forgot.

I actually forgot about that detail.

Check this out, though.

A little

ode to Charlie here, throw up image 250.

And this is Charlie on

5720.

So in 2020, May 7th, 2020, he says, retweet if James Comey should be prosecuted and charged for what he did to Michael Flynn, General Michael Flynn.

So remember, Michael Flynn was entrapped, basically, lured into a meeting without a lawyer under the

assumption that this was a cooperative, hey, we're all in the government kind of thing.

And then we also have a clip that's coming of former director Comey sort of bragging about how he destroyed General Flynn's career.

And so, I mean, you start putting all these little pieces together, and it's really hard to have a lot of sympathy for this guy.

He's going to run to MSNBC.

He's going to put his little, his little

memos out, his little selfie videos out, and act like he's the defender of democracy.

But remember, every time they say that they're defending democracy, these are the same people that tried to throw a former president of the United States into federal prison for 700 years under a novel legal theory.

But of course,

if you're on the left, if you're an MSNBC watcher,

so Blake, this is why they use that language.

By the way, I have to say this.

Did he have a ring light?

Can we get that picture up again?

Do you see the lighting?

He probably watched a Swift selfie.

I think doesn't he have teenage daughters?

Is he on one of his teenage daughters, Taylor Swift, ring lights on there?

I just because you can see the distinctive.

So

they never believed that it was anti look at that it's definitely a ring light you can see the ring uh

just saying you can see it

zoom in on his pupils zoom in on the pupils i bet you can see a ring um you can definitely see a ring you're right

and and

they will never admit what they did all right yeah they won't no check let's let's play this this is uh

this is James Comey bragging about what he did to General Michael Flynn 251.

You look at this White House now and it's hard to imagine two FBI agents ending up in the sit room.

How did that happen?

I sent them.

Something we

probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation, a more organized administration, in the George W.

Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration.

The protocol, two men that all of us have perhaps increased appreciation for over the last two years.

And in both of those administrations, there was process.

And so if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel and there'd be discussions and approvals and who would be there.

And I thought it's early enough.

Let's just send a couple guys over.

Yeah, it's just it really gets a whether he goes to jail or not.

Like we really need to make sure that James Comey is just remembered for what an like odious and very hubristic like self-important figure he was that he's just this he's called him the cardinal yeah he just thinks he is

that is exactly right this is exact this is why this is so satisfying and i'm trying not to give into this like this visceral urge just to dunk on him and be like extraordinarily joyous but you're hitting on exactly right he's so pretentious and smug and and go on and and like not just smug it's that he really sees himself as, like, the main character of an espionage novel

or a TV show.

So, it's like you think of all these other episodes.

Like, in the 2016 election, remember, he was a liberal villain first, and it's because he's so self-importantly injecting himself into everything.

I'm going to go on TV and I'm going to announce whether we're indicting Hillary and no one is going to know, and not even Obama is going to know, and I'm going to then reopen, dramatically reopen the investigation the week before, but you know, it's not going to matter.

And then I think he's even said, I cannot find where this was.

I'm pretty sure he basically said, I, you know, began to suspect Trump might be a Russian agent when I saw him on the podium saying, like, you know, that thing where he was like, oh, Putin should find Hillary's emails.

And every dumb person, including the head of the FBI, it turns out, is like, is he communicating directly with Putin?

Like, just the stupidest thing.

Didn't he once claim that he never saw Trump laugh?

I remember Comey saying that.

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Thank you.

Thank you.

It's amazing.

Really good people out there.

I will tell you, you know, in the midst of all all this tragedy, and I think everybody's kind of wondering what kind of country we have, and they're worried about their kids' future.

Those are valid concerns, valid worries.

But I think you guys would all agree, like, in the midst of that, I've never seen so much good either.

I've never seen so much goodness, so much kindness from perfect strangers.

I didn't even tell you guys this story.

I went out to the vigil one night when it first happened, and some lady recognized me, and she

was very kind.

And as I'm walking away, she's like, her kids all came up and they started hugging me.

Wow.

And the kid looks at me and he's like, can I give you a hug?

And I was like, yes.

And he goes, you look like you need a hug.

And he hugged me.

And he goes, I know it's been a hard day for you.

I hope it gets better.

And then another kid came up.

And then another kid.

And another kid.

And I had like five kids hugging me around my leg.

You had like a Saturday night morning special or something.

This was like, I don't remember.

It was like the Friday after it happened.

There's been a lot of.

It was just amazing.

These little moments like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But anyways, I mean, we're talking about Comey, but I just want to say all the love that you guys are giving has been really amazing.

No, it is.

It's incredible.

I wore...

I'm thinking of buying multiple of those Freedom shirts just so I can wear them like multiple days in a row without it being too gross because it is great.

Like just the other day I was at a

Charlie Kirk store.

Charlie Kirkstore.com.

Yeah, you know, I just went out to a friend's place out in Mesa, just wearing it because I'd worn it at work that day, and just two women were talking outside, middle-aged women, and they saw it and they were just like, you know, I love your shirt.

And I said, thank you.

He was my boss, actually, and we had a conversation about it.

And it was very moving.

They were talking about, you know, both of them said, I hadn't seen a lot of Charlie's stuff before, but now I'm watching his videos constantly.

It's so incredible who he was.

A lot of new fans, man.

And

it's kind of so, and they were very horrified at what the reaction had been.

So it wasn't just they'd realized what Charlie is.

They'd experienced that whole range of seeing how good he was and how hateful so many of the people are who are celebrating it and all of that.

And these are just ordinary women in Mesa.

Had a good conversation with them for a few minutes, and I'd love to have more conversations like that.

And I think a lot of people are.

Yeah, no, that's really good.

I, I, yeah, there's just, so thank you guys.

That's the point.

And guess what?

We have reactions from MSNBC.

Oh,

yes, they're losing their minds over at MSNBC.

And we all know that Charlie loved to watch watch that.

And I'm sure he's watching it right now.

Do we have clips?

253.

Today, there were reports that she was also doubtful about this case.

While she doesn't mention it by name, I'll read exactly what you see here.

No one is above the law.

Today's indictment reflects DOJ's commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable for misleading the American public.

That is how she puts it.

Again, the effort on and the attention on misleading

that rising, according to the DOJ indictment, to what they're going to argue is a criminal level, a false statements charge, which Joyce Vance, you were just explaining, requires meeting a certain bar of materiality.

We don't have the indictment yet, but the reporting prior was that this was referenced to Comey answering a question about the general news and leaks policy at DOJ

and basically whether he was fully briefed on Clinton-related matters.

With our final 30 seconds, your final thoughts.

Well, look, I think this is a good moment for us to all, before we jump to conclusions, wait to see the indictment, wait to see the response from Jim Comey's team.

There are still barriers in the criminal justice system that prevent miscarriage of justice.

A grand jury has decided that they will issue an indictment here, apparently.

But there are other issues going forward, including a judge and a jury.

Let's let the system work like it's intended to.

Right.

We're going to get a hold of the paper.

We're going to be following this, but it is an extraordinary news event to have the former FBI director indicted, especially under these terms.

Thank you, Joyce.

Thanks for watching.

Breaking coverage continues.

You look like, I mean,

not going to say that, but like, Ari Melber, what's the matter, Ari?

What's the matter?

What's the matter?

Something wrong, Ari, something the matter?

Just, you know, we got to let the legal system play out, but there are, you know.

He's already defending him, though.

I know.

You hear that in the Blake.

I know you picked up on that.

He's like, well, the briefing

would have been briefed properly.

That's clearly what it was.

Might not be briefed on Clinton when he personally made the decision of whether to prosecute or not.

He's the director of the FBI.

And by the way, when you, like,

I don't think any of us in here have done this, but, you know, for anyone who's done like any deposition, none of us have been briefed before.

Charlie used to talk about when he went to testify to the J6 committee.

Me too.

Yeah, and Tyler as well.

So, Tyler, let me ask.

I actually, I forgot that you did.

Yeah, we were.

We were in.

And I love

Charlie.

Tyler was, wasn't it like

were you born on October 14th?

Fifth Amendment.

Fifth Amendment.

Fifth Amendment.

But Tyler, did you just go up there and did your lawyers just let you go in there and wing it?

No.

No, no.

You prep.

You go over documents.

You have to do it.

The prep was really easy.

No, I know that.

But I mean, please.

No, I know, but at the same time, you have to do your due diligence.

No, for sure.

And

I'm about to go in again to have to fight the AG here.

And your lawyers are with you throughout the entire thing, both in any interview, if you get subpoenaed, or if you have to go in and

testify to a grand jury or then ultimately testify to a jury or whatever it is.

I mean, there's a tremendous amount of prep that goes into all these things.

Right.

And that's why any good lawyer, before they ask you, before you answer a yes or no question like that,

they'll say, hey, you know, can you clarify that question?

Can you, you know, are you sure this is what you're asking out?

Because you know that if it's in court, that's perjury.

And if if you're in congress that's lying to congress you're breaking a federal law and so yes you do prep and you and of course oh he wasn't briefed properly and ari's ari's not stupid right ari's not a stupid guy he knows exactly what he's doing it's like oh it was the briefers they they were the ones who screwed up and by and by the way

and by the way these guys have limitless resources for this this is this isn't like a guy getting again like in our situation he was he was private individual when he when he testified i get it but he's surrounded by layers

of attorneys, the best in the world.

I think he's at a law firm right now, isn't it?

I mean,

you can make the argument that the best and deepest and most aggressive attorneys are all within the D.C.

metro area.

That's where they all live and survive.

And you can bet that the best possible guys were provided to him.

by

everyone who hates

any friends.

They all take care of each other.

So

this is just

a farce.

It's just a made-up thing.

It's like, it's not a real thing.

They're just

the other thing that Ari Melber goes, he says, well, he was answering a general statement about the leak policy.

It wasn't a general statement about the leak policy.

It was specific leaks of a specific instance on a specific article.

And then Ari Melber is already sitting up there.

This is what they do every time.

The same thing Jimmy Kimmel did the other day.

The same thing that you saw leftists do in the wake of the, when, you know, when I reported that it was the anti-ice on the bullets, and then you had the picture that came out.

They just start lying.

They just straight up start lying.

Let's read President Trump's truth on this.

First, real quick, just because

Jay McGuire donated a dollar and asked, have we seen the Fearless Tour at all and how are they treated at the tennis?

Cam Higby, yeah, he got, I mean, all they were doing was having it, I watched the whole video.

We should have him on next week, and we will.

Tomorrow's show's all packed out already, but maybe Monday, Tuesday.

The yeah, I mean, it was a complete joke.

They were having civil debates on an HBCU, and a crowd sort of gathers and then

chases them off, and they're getting hurled insults for their hat.

I think they were wearing MAGA hats, and they had to be escorted off with police to keep them safe.

So

their name is Fearless Tour, and you know, God bless them.

I love that people are going back into

the lion's den and doing this, and

I'm proud of them.

And we'll talk to them.

We'll probably have them on the show.

Truth here from 254.

This is President Trump's truth social.

He says, justice in America, all caps, exclamation point.

One of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to is James Comey, the former corrupt head of the FBI.

Today he was indicted by a grand jury on two felony counts for various illegal and unlawful acts.

He has been so bad for our country for so long and is now at the beginning of being held responsible for his crimes against our nation.

Make America great again.

So, there you go, Blake.

I know you love when the politicians chime in on the legal proceedings.

You know,

I would just caution people that the stuff you do now.

Perpwalks, statements, it can be very satisfying in the moment.

But among other things, I don't think it increases your chances of getting an actual conviction.

This is, and I'm just going to say this as well: that this is a very direct issue that has been brought up in the Luigi Maggioni case right now, where

there is a motion from the defense team to knock the death penalty off because of Twitter activity by members of Department of Justice officials, retweets, and different things like this.

So,

I mean, I have some sympathy in that instance simply because Luigi Maggioni

premeditated an assassination against a CEO, the United Healthcare CEO.

To bring justice to a cold-blooded assassin is,

you know, I feel like morally there's a lot of leg to stand on.

No, I know, but I'm saying that

you have to get that past the judge.

Yes, exactly.

And a judge can just rule, oh, this violates whatever vague standard, and boom, no more death penalty.

Yeah, just that, it can go away that easily.

And you know, someone says, you know, someone said in the discussion, they said, you know, just regarding this, nothing better than a Trump truth.

I got to disagree.

There is something better.

Convicting James Comey for all of the people.

Putting James Comey away for 20 years.

That is good.

Maximize the odds of that.

And if anything else you're doing hurts the odds of that,

the president's going to be the president.

Trump will be Trump.

Anyone else will do Joe?

Let's go play.

Let's hate watch some more MSNBC losing their ish 255.

Their what, Andrew?

So that selective prosecution piece is augmented or buffeted by the fact that the president was tweeting out, do it.

Go after him.

And maybe if Lindsay Heligan was actually a prosecutor and actually knew some law, she would have said, Mr.

President, we're going to have a problem here.

Kendallanian, who had some of the original reporting on the fact that we were expecting this indictment and on this timeline, so that proved accurate.

We are now hearing from the Attorney General and from the director of the FBI.

This is what Pam Bondi posted on X.

No one is above the law.

Today's indictment reflects this Department of Justice's commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable for misleading the American people.

We will follow the facts in this case.

I want you to take that, Ken,

side by side with what FBI Director Cash Patel posted on X.

Today, your FBI took another step in its promise of full accountability.

For far too long, previous corrupt leadership and their enablers weaponized federal law enforcement, damaging once proud institutions and severely eroding public trust.

I hear that sigh.

I feel it too, guys.

Every day, we continue the fight to earn that trust back, and under my leadership, this FBI will confront the problem head-on.

Nowhere was this politicization of law enforcement more blatant than during the Russiagate hoax, a disgraceful chapter in history we continue to investigate.

and expose.

Everyone, especially those in positions of power, will be held to account no matter their perch.

No one is above the lot.

You'll forgive me, Ken, because getting through that propaganda was a little bit difficult.

But given that there was reporting earlier that Pam

listen to this stuff,

it's just, you know, at least I'll give Abby Phillips over at CNN some props here because at least she'll have like Scott Jennings on or someone who disagrees.

But what is the point of having a panel on MSNBC where everyone has the exact same opinion?

This is exactly why we have our DEI hire Blake here.

Because

Blake is contrarian.

He's Blackfill Blake.

You want that back and forth.

Not just for the political polarization part of it, but just better TV, don't you think?

Well, so there's, by the way, there's multiple, I totally agree.

I love it when Blake kind of gives me something to think about.

By the way,

so there's two

charges here, right?

Blake?

He's on two counts.

Yeah, he's two charges.

The obstruction would be the the lying about the leaking.

I think both are the lie.

They just kind of tagged him twice.

Right, so false statement and then the obstruction because he told a false statement.

So there's another clip going around

that

James Comey told Congress on September 30th, 2020 could be one of the lies that was told.

Comey said he had never authorized anyone within the FBI to be a, quote, anonymous source about the Trump-Russia investigation.

So this, and he told that to Senator Ted Cruz, so let's go ahead and play that.

257.

Chairman Grassley asked you point blank, quote, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?

You responded under oath, quote, never.

He then asked you, quote, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration?

you responded again under oath: no.

Now, as you know, Mr.

McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal.

Who's telling the truth?

I can only speak to my testimony.

I stand by what the testimony you summarized that I gave.

I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today.

Hmm.

So he stood by the fact that he never

did

never authorized anyone within the FBI to be in an anonymous source.

So he was standing by the previous.

Yes.

So that wasn't the previous testimony that he gave to Chuck Grassley.

So he's saying he stands by it at that point.

We have another message.

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We love the Patriots.

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Donated 50.

God bless Erica, family, and you all.

I never met Charlie, but I felt I knew him.

I saw him on the Ingram Angle when he first started.

He's grown so fast and became something bigger than all of us.

It's completely true.

Amen.

He's a great man, and we've heard that over and over.

So many people never met him or only shook hands with him, but they really felt

close to him.

Yeah, and Michael Steele still sucks.

Michael Steele?

Michael Steele.

That guy.

Michael Steele just feels like

remember that guy.

It's caught on TV.

It's insane.

No, this is is literally what I was just saying.

The MSNBC Republicans.

That's precisely who they are.

It's you're just like

chair.

It's like crazy to me.

Like, that's how bad we were.

That's how bad the RNC is.

And by the way, he was someone who was treated horrifically by the left.

You remember the Oreos, right?

Yeah.

He was called an Oreo, like, like...

Black on the outside, one on the inside is what they said.

And they pelted him with Oreos.

Was that at one of the RNCs or something?

Yeah.

When he was was walking, some protests were pelting him with Oreos.

And yet now he's hanging out on that side.

So Yarvin had this thing earlier.

I don't know if you saw it, Blake, where he was saying there are not two left.

There is only one left.

And I really like that.

There's only one left.

And we keep sort of playing this game where we're like, no, there's the good ones.

And it's like, where?

Where?

When you have Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama saying what they say all the time.

I just, I don't know.

Having trouble finding it.

I don't disagree.

Having trouble finding it.

But, you know, I will just accept at this point a lefty that doesn't believe that violence is justified, which is.

Hey, wait, we talked about junk.

How do you say?

Jenkins?

Jenk.

Like Jenkins.

Like Jenkins.

Oh, but Uyger.

Uger.

Uger.

Okay.

Apparently, Rav like bleeped me out every time.

Oh, gosh.

Chank.

I love it.

It's really funny about that just because you were just saying chank, though.

You did one time say.

No, I did one time.

You did say,

you did say a no-no word at one point.

I did say a no-no.

I didn't, it didn't even occur to me.

I was like, Andrew, it's sunk.

Sunk.

I was like trying to help you.

I'm learning some learning.

Trying to get you past that one, buddy.

And I was like,

I immediately was like, I'm so sorry.

How many different ways would it be possible to pronounce that man's name?

I wonder if it could be like, could you hit like a hundred?

Sank.

It's like Janky.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Is it short for anything?

I have no idea.

Could it be like, like, is it like Jankilicious?

Ooh.

Jankula.

There's only really one way to find out.

We have to demand its birth certificate.

Count Jankula.

Count Jankula.

Nice.

Yes, going with that.

So

Janky.

Computer Angelo says janky.

I think we've gotten through the...

I do kind of want to just to cover the Cubs thing just to find it so fun.

I know you want to, but

let me just add this final piece here while we're on Comi.

It's

you have to restore

the scales of justice to balance.

You have to do that.

And you must do it using the iron law of exact reciprocity.

It has to be done to the people who wielded government power for ill-gotten ends.

This is exactly what Comey was doing.

It was McCabe.

There were so many of them.

And gosh, I was just looking, I was running like a Twitter search on Charlie's tweets, and he's got the lists over and over.

Over and over, Charlie was calling for this.

Over and over, Charlie said, why were so many of our people indicted for this when James Comey did the exact same thing?

And I'm sure Charlie knew exactly the dates and times that he did it.

And

of course, Charlie can't play a part in this because of what was done to him.

And so when the pressure is being applied in one direction, the pressure of state power, like we saw for four years straight, including, by the way, to the turning point organization itself,

both, well, I'll just say through

investigation upon investigation that was opened up, and I know there's more that's going to be coming out on the FBI investigation.

And

if you don't respond, if you don't do anything to balance it out, they're just going to do it again.

It's like little kids.

Yeah, no,

I think that's really very clear.

We've been looking for a balancing of the scales, and you have to have mutually assured destruction

in a democracy for both sides to treat the other with respect.

Like, if you step out of line, we are not so cowardly as to not hold you accountable.

Despite what MSNBC is going to say, that this is the end of democracy, which they notably were not saying when our border was open and political opponents of the left were getting indicted left and right.

Go ahead, Blake.

You'll like this one, Jack.

Rafinez gave five and says, in honor of Comey, Taylor Swift will rename her next tour the indictments era.

Thank you, Rafinez.

All right, let's get to Shaw.

All right, all right.

I just really wanted to hit this.

No, I wanted to.

This is

so

Matt Shaw is what it is.

Yes.

So Matt Shaw is a player on the Cubs.

I think he's a rookie.

So that means he's a player in the age range of

the core demographic that Charlie went for.

And he'd met Charlie.

He knew Charlie.

I think they actually even lived in the same

place for a while, but I don't know if I've seen that reported.

I don't know if it's the case.

But so he had met Charlie.

He'd known Charlie.

He saw him at a game once.

And then he wanted, so he attended the memorial.

He was invited by Erica directly, is what reporting says.

And so he went to the memorial.

Now, for those of you who don't know baseball, baseball plays 160 games a year.

They're playing almost every day.

So he had to miss a game to do that.

The Cubs are going to the playoffs.

They, in fact, have already clinched a playoff spot.

They're still fighting for position.

So a lot of

I do have to call them people, don't I?

A lot of people lost their absolute minds about this.

Wait, I thought we were talking about redditors.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Okay, yeah, good point.

We need to, we need to.

There's a video on this.

Can we have RFK like investigate whether redditors are like fully the same

species

as human beings?

Oh, but yeah, we have a video.

Yeah, let's play the video because this is kind of what sparked it.

I don't have the exact number here.

226.

This is an announcer reacting to it.

Are you concerned about the backlash?

Because there is a lot of politics about the folks.

Yeah, I mean, absolutely.

I'm not concerned at all.

No, you know, my connection with Charlie was through our faith.

That's something that drives me every day.

That's the reason why I'm able to do what I do every day.

And that's something I'm extremely thankful for.

I know without my faith and without the many blessings I've been given in my life that I wouldn't be here, able to talk to you guys, able to help this team eventually go and win championships.

So that's something I feel really, really blessed about.

So, you know, whatever backlash comes is okay.

You know, I feel strong about my faith and that what was meant to be happening.

My bet.

I call, I thought I was getting a different one there, but no, that's actually a very good one.

Really is it shows his

so the backlash, which I also want to show here is this started with an announcer on, I think he was the Mets announcer, but was calling the game and he commented on it as Matt was batting the following day, so in a Monday's game.

So So let's play that as well, 227.

Shaw had Cubs World in a tizzy this weekend when he was not here for the Cubs game with the Reds.

A game they lost 1-0

and in which his lack of presence was felt.

It was later revealed that he had been given permission to attend Charlie Kirk's funeral.

And I don't want to talk about any of the politics of it, but the thought of leaving your team in the middle of a race for any reason other than a family emergency really strikes me as weird.

He was super, super supportive of us and obviously someone who's really faithful, so we connected on that front as well.

But yeah, I mean,

his wife Erica had texted me asking me if I would come to

the funeral.

And, you know, I felt as though it was something that was really important for me to do.

Well, and by the way, throw up 258.

So I took, I literally just put this picture into the chat from my own phone.

I was with Charlie on the field.

This is probably a month or five weeks ago.

And this is us on the field at Wrigley.

And Matt Shaw's right there.

Matt lives in Arizona.

And they run into each other in Phoenix.

And so we're at the game, and after they won, I think they won 4-3 that day.

We went down to the field, and two of the Cubs players, one of which was Matt, came and they took a picture, and they chatted, and it was wonderful, and it was just a really nice moment.

And actually, when we posted that picture, it got some controversy as well.

But, you know, it was fine, whatever.

And

so, I mean, I just feel connected personally to this story.

And one other thing, just, you know, Matt Shaw did not mention that in that clip, but Charlie was such a huge Cubs fan.

It's so like he grew up worshiping the Cubs,

and that's why I think on many levels, he was just so excited to have a relationship with some of the Cubs players.

It's a beautiful thing.

That was literally one of his favorite days that he's had in a long time because, again, also, and people forget this, like, Charlie had become such a big personality, it's hard for him to go and do fun things.

Like, it really, like,

in many ways, right?

Like, like, how we were telling the story about you guys being out and about in South Korea.

But him being out there, again, his love for the Cubs and being at games, especially with Erica and family.

He had a lot of those videos.

And he could go to games.

Like, he went to spring training and a few games this year.

And, like, it's just, I just, I just know he would talk about it, like, he was so excited to look forward, so forward to those things.

It was like Christmas.

That announcer is a total jerk.

What a jerk.

Like, oh, that just strikes me as really weird.

Well, you strike me as a jerk.

Yeah.

Oh, he

he missed the hecking sporting game

because a person who was a friend of his was murdered?

Not just a friend of his, but then like a worldwide icon.

And he got his

widow.

Skip the worldwide icon.

Personal friend.

My friend was murdered.

I would like to go to his memorial.

The widow has asked me to attend.

And they're freaking out.

Oh, it's really weird.

He'd miss a freaking playoff choice

for the Cups.

Imagine it had a freak show.

Has that guy been fired?

He He should be.

We should have fired.

Why is that guy not?

I candidly, like, that guy should get suspended from his job for saying something like that.

What a cold-hearted

jerk.

Charlie.

Well, take the politics out of it.

Charlie was murdered.

Okay, this is a murder.

This is the murder of someone that a lot of people knew, that a lot of people,

he was beloved by many.

I don't know what the word for that is.

And he was a human being that people actually knew in the middle of the day.

That's a shocking.

It took me a second to realize, but I started sitting here thinking about it as you were talking to her, and I'm like, the heck, actually, like, who the hell is this guy?

And what is his problem?

Like, who hurt you when you were a little kid?

You don't understand?

Like, yeah, we should actually blow this up a little bit because it's shocking.

No, when you mentioned the Cubs, I didn't realize that's what the audio was.

Oh, that was the Mets announcer, though.

Sorry, the Mets announcer.

But you said Cubs Story, and I was like, I didn't hear anything about a Cub story.

And then

that's what it is in the headline, and I hadn't heard it.

Imagine having

a lot of money.

MLK or JFK, right?

Like, MLK.

was saying, when MLK was assassinated,

they actually delayed all MLB games for two days.

Oh, interesting.

Yeah.

So when MLK was assassinated, they delayed all MLB games.

And it was originally.

So Roberto Clemente.

And he was the president, which is understandable.

And Roberto Clemente actually had to organize some Pittsburgh players to take a day off.

Just got the name of the announcement.

Sorry, I just got the name of the announcer.

Yeah.

His name is Gary Cohen.

Yeah, Gary Cohen.

Gary Cohen from the New York Mets.

What a jerk.

Gosh, I want to use different words.

Absolutely.

I'm trying to

center myself.

He's a crumb creep.

He's a crumb bum.

There's just all this

incredibly, incredibly nasty stuff online.

So I was, I posted on X earlier some excerpts from the Reddit thread about it where there's all these.

So you just have to know, a lot of Redditors are very creepy, soy people.

They were celebrating Charlie's death when it happened.

I have the screencasts to prove it.

And so here it's like,

Mr.

Ferguson, cultist gonna cult.

We have, let's see what else.

This has to rank up there with the weirdest missed games, right?

Does anyone have a list of interesting absences?

Yeah, it's very interesting.

He wanted to go to the memorial of his

who was murdered.

All for some effing podcaster, L-M-F-A-O, F the team, I guess.

No, folks, this is what we're up against.

We're up against the fried mental model that's even being promoted by hopefully hopefully a soon-to-be unemployed sports announcer, just a complete douchebag who wants to sit there and say, oh, that's weird.

That's weird.

Gary?

Is that a little weird, Gary?

Strikes me as weird that you'd want to bury your friend.

Yeah.

Homie J420.

How can someone be teammates with this jerk?

Like, what does he think about his Hispanic teammates?

Unfathomably stupid person here.

No, think about it.

By the way, Williams can't win the division.

It's already locked down by the Brewers.

But they have clinched a playoff spot.

They've clinched a playoff spot, and they're eight games ahead of the wild card standing.

But I want to be clear what Blake thinks.

The comments are Blake is reading were not all said by Gary.

No, no, no.

These are Reddit.

Only the clip we showed was Gary.

This is people reacting to it on a website of

annoying people.

Supporting it.

Yeah, and just agreeing, like, oh, it's so weird or bad.

This is what we're up against, folks.

These are the people who are celebrating Charlie's murder.

These are the people sitting up there and saying, oh, it's weird.

It's weird to miss a game because your friend was murdered and you're going to a memorial.

Someone that you knew in real life, a personal contact of yours, was brutally murdered on live television.

Blake was standing just a few feet away from this and we're sitting there acting like it's just, oh, some other news cycle or some other political cycle.

And I knew this was going to happen.

I knew this was going to happen.

It was going to become this litmus test on Charlie and the people who like Charlie and all this stuff.

But guys like Gary up there, sitting up there, just like guys with Jimmy Kimmel.

And I'm going to say it, Joe Rogan, who I called out yesterday, because he was being flippant about it too.

He didn't care, you know,

you are not about what actually happened.

No, you are not.

If you are coming at this with like, I don't really get it.

Well, it's weird.

Okay, then just shut up.

Yeah.

That's all you have to do if you don't get it.

Somebody was

murdered.

No, I was saying, come here.

Come here.

This is crazy.

Come here and go tell that to Erica.

Yeah, this is the first time.

Go tell that to her.

This is actually crazy because

what I'm realizing is Gary.

Gary.

Gary.

Gary.

Gary.

So this is what I'm realizing, though, is that the entirety of this story is Matt Shaw on defense.

When the truth of this story is that this Gary Cohen guy needs to be on defense because he's actually in the wrong.

Matt Shaw was in the right.

His friend was murdered in a political assassination, the likes of which this country has not seen since the 1960s.

Yes, he's our friend and brother in this, but they were actual friends that texted all the time.

They live next to each other in Arizona.

Charlie's a big Cubs fan.

They hung out weeks before on the field in Wrigley.

And

good point, Tyler.

The game doesn't, whether they win or lose, just changes nothing.

And not only that, but Erica had reached out and personally invited him and asked him to come.

It gets better.

This is a awesome.

This is from Caitlin Bennett, who once upon a time worked for us.

It's a long story.

She posted, I totally missed all this.

I was busy yesterday with everything else going on.

New York's Mets broadcaster Gary Cohen, who missed the game earlier when his dog died, calls it weird that a Cubs player missed a game to attend Charlie's funeral.

So apparently Gary Cohen had missed a game when his dog died.

It's yeah.

I can put this up.

Oh my gosh.

Put that, send that in the chat.

We'll get it up.

Isn't that crazy?

What outlet is that?

Can you tell or is it crossing?

But it's not even about why someone lost their job.

It's about people making light of what happened to Charlie.

And I am going to draw the line over it.

And I don't care if I lose bookings or whatever.

It's just, it's wrong.

What you're doing is wrong.

And I don't care if you're Jimmy Kimmel or Joe Rogan or Gary Cohen, whoever, I'm going to call all of you out because it's sick.

Okay.

What happened to Charlie is sick.

It's not funny.

It's not the brunt of a joke.

It's not something to be made light of.

And it's certainly not weird that people would be great.

Think about what that does to everyone.

here in this building beyond Charlie's family and the immediacy, but the people in this building, the people of Turning Point, the Turning Point kids, that he's like saying, if something happens to you and people care, well, that's weird.

Oh my gosh, this is from this year, too.

That's April 21st, 2025.

You missed a game.

I can't believe you missed a game, Gary Cohen.

That strikes me as really weird for your dog's death.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I mean, I know we got a lot of pet lovers out here, and candidly, I wouldn't care except for

friend gets murdered, wife calls and asks you to come.

That's crazy, and you leave, you miss a game.

You miss a game because your dog died.

You coward.

Oh, my God.

You're so out of touch.

Which, by the way, my worst words are coming to mind, and I'm burying them because

I have nothing against people mourning.

I have nothing against that, of course.

It's just like, how dare he come out against Shah?

It's crazy.

Well, no, by the way, we have your phone number here.

I know it's 923.

Oh, it's up.

Yeah, if you want to call the Mets on the East Coast right now.

While you're at it, you can complain about the Mets melting down.

Let's say the number.

Let's say the number.

Yeah.

If you're listening to this later or during the week, it's 866-239-1284.

It's 866-239-1284.

You should just call and let them know that you think Gary Cohen is a dirtbag.

And that's fine.

And tell them that, you know,

goodness, like, have some humanity, have some heart.

Get in touch with your

emotions.

Pray, Gary, because something's wrong with you if you've got a problem with somebody going to their friend's funeral that was just murdered in cold blood.

And by the way, that transformed the shape and trajectory of the history of this country.

Less than six months ago, Gary skipped a game because his dog died.

Less than six months ago.

Anyways, listen, I don't know Gary Cohen.

Maybe he's nice and this was a bad moment, okay?

I'm just going to surmise that my instincts tell me that if you are this much of a dirtbag to say this about somebody

just off the cuff that like probably there's something there's something more more he could apologize to Eric yeah you should he could apologize he should put up apologize to Matt Shaw just

apologize just apologize leave it leave her out of this but like you know apologize to Matt he's a good guy how about an apology Gary it's not that hard we have a I'm sorry and not in private by the way in public yeah we got private

apology are they apologize so the Mets making the playoffs the Mets are making the playoffs right now, but are kind of at risk of blowing it.

Cubs are in for sure, and they're just fighting for seating when they're doing

Rumble Rant.

We have a last spot.

We have a Rumble rant.

Yeah, let's read a few of these.

I think we have three of them to go here.

So, first of all,

Blue used to be cool.

Gave 20.

Thank you for continuing Charlie's legacy.

I am a 45-year-old Wisconsinite who owes Charlie and TPUSA for helping me get off the sidelines and door knock and get involved.

I will never sit back again.

God bless you.

Blue used to be cool.

Blue did used to be cool, and I'm still butthurt to this day that thanks to the 2000 election, we got stuck with blue as the liberal color and red as the conservative color.

I like blue better as a color.

What year was that?

2000.

Year 2000.

That's kind of what solidifies.

They used to swap them back and forth.

And blue is the right way to talk everywhere else.

It's the royal color.

Well, red is the red are the comedy.

I've never liked that we got stuck with that.

That's how it is.

But thank you.

And everyone else, one of the best ways you can honor Charlie is to get involved yourself.

That's what you would always tell people to do.

Don't be a passive consumer,

don't just watch live streams like this one.

Get out there, do things, talk to people, you know,

whip the votes of your family, of your neighborhood, of your friends.

Uh, Kate, by the way, we have something coming up.

So, door knocking here in Arizona.

We're gonna have opportunities.

We're gonna be talking about them and posting about them, but we have some in Arizona this next month.

So, the mission continues.

KDP gave 10.

I am dedicating a chaplet for y'all's peace and protection.

You are all such good men.

Take care of yourselves.

Did y'all see Scubal throw that 90-mile-per-hour baseball straight into that guy's face?

I didn't see that.

I don't know if they mean Shaw or someone else.

I try to assume the best.

I assume that was not intentional.

That would be very nasty.

As a baseball player, you know, throwing at people actually can be extraordinarily dangerous.

So

I actually have a lot of respect for baseball because that thing can do some damage, but you know, so hopefully everybody's okay.

I did not see this.

DJ Gowitz gave 10.

I know you're flooded with chapter requests.

How can I request to organize a sanctioned homeschool co-op?

Turning point homeschool co-op.

Use the TPUSA community to create a standard curriculum.

Do we have?

Yeah, we actually have

specialty activism hubs that we do with homeschool.

So

the homeschool co-op, through TP

Turning Point Education, they actually work with homeschool school groups directly.

So you can go

just search for Turning Point Education.

They will help you with that.

And then we also have chapters specifically for co-ops.

So if that's the question, and you just go right to tpusastudents.com and you can start a chapter or a hub for homeschools.

Great.

I actually got something in just now that

it's not a rumble rant,

and I can't say it because I don't know if I have permission to name it, say it, but I'm just going to say it that there is a

person

who I guess Charlie

talked to.

Well, hold on on that.

Talked to at one of the campus events.

I'll leave it at that.

And this person

has said that Charlie was a huge motivation

and says

that they have decided to re-enter

the church, accept Jesus into their life, and will be detransitioning.

Wow.

Whoa.

And said that because of everything that happened with Charlie, it had a huge impact on their life.

And that's

awesome.

That that's an impact that Charlie.

I have some more details, but I'm not going going to give it out.

That's incredible.

That's incredible.

Because if they were on camera, I don't want to make it like that.

Exactly, exactly.

I think we're closing out here in a moment, but we got one last from Zuzu's Petals.

Conservative Christian is the new normal.

That is a...

Anyone know the reference?

Zuzu's pedals?

Yeah, from It's a Wonderful Life.

There you go.

It's a Wonderful Life.

One of the greatest movies.

Because it's when he gets back from

the back of the back.

Remember, he never existed, but then he says, I want to exist, and then he exists again, and he looks at his pocket, and he's got Zuzu's pedals.

Zuzu's pedals, they're there!

Oh, yes, Mary, it's me, George!

Mary!

Don't you know me?

I love that.

I love that movie so much.

I love that.

What a great movie.

Do you know that was filmed right now?

Do you know that was filmed in Los Angeles?

It was not filmed in New York.

That was the first time.

I did not know that.

Yeah, it was filmed in Los Angeles.

You ever seen the

snow and the, and, yeah.

I almost named, I think we've had Zuzu's pedals actually contribute to us before because we talked about this.

I almost named my youngest daughter Zuzu.

Let's go.

After it's wonderful.

Oh, that would have been so great.

I love love how, by the way, I'm just going to say it, since we haven't really done any thought crimes tonight,

we have to do one.

That when he goes to like the nightmarish upside-down world and he looks up his wife, Mary,

what is it?

The Mangels Clarence, and he goes,

he goes, he goes, oh, you don't want to see Mary.

You don't want to see that, George.

Why not?

And he goes, he goes, she never married.

She works at the library.

She's a spinster.

The worst possible.

It's not his brother being dead.

It's not his brother being dead.

It's not his uncle being dead.

He's okay with all that.

He's okay with all that.

This is the perfect place to rap.

But in the 1940s, that was a like

a nightmarish value system.

Yeah, the value system.

All right.

It's a good place to wrap, guys.

Or Jack, take us home.

I don't know about

Jake.

Okay, Andy.

Jake Tapper.

Arjer.

Jack Taper.

I don't even know where to go with that one.

Arthur Colvet.

Yeah, folks, what can I say?

It is the second Thought Crime Thursday that we've done with our fifth member on assignment with God, and he's going to be on that assignment for a long time.

Until we meet again.

One last thing.

Just someone's sneaking it.

You guys got to send these a little bit earlier.

All right.

All right, all right.

Fisi gifted five subscriptions.

Ooh, now we're a real live stream show.

People are gifting subscriptions.

That's another thing you can do.

Thank you very much.

And then Benji, 63.

I think I've seen that name before, too.

He gave 20.

I've never had many women to look up to in my life, but Erica has become number one.

What a strong woman, full of faith that every woman should strive to be like.

God bless her and God bless her kids.

Thank you, Benji, so much.

And we all, we all look up,

but we all look.

I actually like these, the team in the studio is coming up with names.

Kylie says, Andrizzle.

I could go with that.

And Caboose says Admiral Andrew, which

I'm going to fully endorse.

Absolutely not.

No, absolutely not.

The Admiral?

Sorry, the naval guy over here is like,

no, actually,

you know what we call you, right?

I don't want to hear it.

Let's rap.

No, it's good.

It's good.

We have a good one.

Oh, you do?

Yeah, it's AK-47.

After your age.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we always call him AK-47.

Yeah, we all call him AK-47.

Hey, eventually I'm going to really like it.

By the way, it's something.

Wait, just real quick.

He's 27.

He looks great.

Real quick on the chats, though.

I was guesting for Tim Poole a couple of days because he was sick before all this happened.

And

one of the things that I'd love for this to be, you know, if we could carry on the tradition here as well, one of the things that his subscribers or people do in the chat is

they put in a super chat or a rumble rant from the delivery room when one of them has a baby or like their spouse has a baby or something.

It's incredible.

Which is like

it happens like a bunch.

If you get engaged or have babies, we want to hear from you.

And I guess I said three days in a row and it happened twice with his audience.

That's that it happened.

Like in twice in three days, which is like that is an incredible blessing.

It's so good.

It's good.

I like to honor and celebrate the good things in life.

Exactly.

100%.

Celebrate the life-giving things and the things that honor God.

I think, if anything, it's that we've learned over the last couple of days.

I was talking to Dr.

Drew today, and he said the thing, there's two big issues, right?

First is the new normal, and you really do have to deal with the new normal, and that's hard questions, and we all have to deal with that.

And number two is the grief.

And he said, you got to lean into grief.

You can't deny it.

You can't squelch it.

You got to accept it and lean into it.

And I think maybe, in a sense, us staying on mission and staying on point

is a way to do that.

And I love the fact that the show is still going because

I don't know if I'd be able to do it without that, without all you guys.

And without everybody being here.

Yeah, it's been nice to have everybody around the office and around town.

And it's been a huge, huge key part for me.

I know that.

Yeah, it's not about...

speeches or followers or tweets or whatever.

It's about just being with your family, being with your people.

Yeah, exactly.

Gotta do it.

All right, folks, on that very non-thought crime-y

note,

we are going to go and remind you to go out there and commit more thought crime.

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