Ask Us Anything 238: Gen Z Going to Church? Taylor Swift Takes Charlie's Advice? A Cubs Playoff Run?

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So we've got Mikey McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, absolute roundabout, good man, and

apparently a rising star, Mikey McCoy.

People love your infectious laugh.

Yeah, I'll take it.

The ladies love it.

The real McCoy was the title I think we settled on.

I think I'm Admiral Andrew.

Admiral Andrew, Real McCoy, Blake GPT.

Yeah, yeah, whatever.

Andreas, I guess I'm a spock or whatever.

Just like Spock.

I know I was a Spock.

You know, Captain Kirk would get all worked up, and then I'd be like, that's most illogical, Jesus.

Literally doing these things.

It's most illogical.

Yeah.

I see Alexis says, I'm seeing Muslims all over Michigan.

They are now allowing prayer in the middle of the street midday.

Are they here legally?

I have no idea.

Some of them probably are.

A lot of them are these refugee status.

Savannah Hernandez with Turning Point Frontlines did a amazing piece on the Somalis in Minnesota.

And most of them get government benefits because they're here on some sort of temporary protected status.

Tons.

But they just keep getting extended, extended.

A lot of these will be chain migration.

Alexis, you said, hey, can I get a response on my email?

And so the answer is yes.

I see you.

And

yeah, it's a huge problem.

I mean, I don't know.

We currently apparently do not have the political will or desire to deal with it.

And on some level, I understand the administration is trying to tackle a huge illegal immigrant problem.

But the chain migration,

legal immigration needs to be reformed just as urgently, in my opinion.

So, yeah.

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So, first question:

Anthony is first.

Anthony, can you hear me?

Yeah, can you hear me, Andrew?

Yes, absolutely.

Hey, Anthony.

Welcome to the show.

How are you doing?

Thanks, guys.

All right.

So, got to ask this.

Andrew, I know you're a Dodger fan, so it's okay.

But where does the office stand with pulling for the Cubs?

Where's Danny?

I know.

Andrew stands with pulling me at the top.

Get him in.

Get him on.

Hey, listen.

For Charlie, I will be ecstatic when the Cubs win.

I just

while we wait for Danny, I'm a Twins fan.

For those who don't follow baseball, the Twins are a smoldering creator of a franchise.

They're doomed forever.

They will never be good again.

Did you see that on air?

What?

That you're a Twins fan?

Yeah, what?

It's not even your state.

You're a Twins.

They're next door.

Someone find Danny.

Anyway, they're going to be terrible forever.

They'll never, ever be good again.

So I'm kind of just going into this like curvy pucker nation.

Come on.

Get in here, Danny.

Get over here.

Get over here.

Danny.

Talking to my mic.

Get in here.

Talking to my mic.

Right here.

Just right here.

Just talking to my mic.

You can lean in, whatever, wherever you want to go.

So, Danny is from the same part of the world, roughly, as Charlie, but Charlie and Danny would talk sports a lot.

Oh, yeah, big time.

Danny is an Ohio State fan, which is

the number one team in the country, national champs.

We're going to run it back this year.

Except for the Ducks who are going to win, because now I'm a Ducks fan, which is saying something because I'm actually a U-W Husky.

we had an expression that rhymes with Ducks that involves the name of that school.

And I'm

putting all this aside to root for

Charlie.

Last night we were watching the Rams 49ers game, and Elizabeth goes, Since when are you like a sports fan?

It's like, you can blame Danny and Charlie.

I didn't care about sports.

Now I'm a Ducks fan and a Cuz fan because of this guy.

So tell the audience, how many games

were visible inside the

Charlie Kirk show office.

Almost every day game.

Yeah, we were in the office and the Cubs were playing, the game was on.

Yeah, and there's a time difference, too.

So if they were playing East Coast or Central Central Time, two-hour difference,

it would work out.

I mean, one of my last memories of Charlie in the office, actually, was just watching the Cubs play.

Oh, really?

Yeah, because

we went to Wrigley Field together just a few weeks before Charlie passed.

And

it was a really special moment.

We walked the field, hung out with the players.

Like, a couple of those images went viral

because, I guess, it was like controversial that they took a picture with Charlie.

One of the players,

Michael Bush, who took a picture with Charlie, hit

big home run last night.

Big home run last night.

And by the way, I'm not even a Cubs fan, Anthony, but I am this year.

Okay?

And if they won the game,

it's okay.

I know.

You're a Dodger fan.

I am.

Listen, I want them to get to the NLCS together, and I want to go seven.

And I want Matt Shaw to hit the game game winning the home run will he hit it off Otani though what if that happens I'm so okay with that no Otani's had enough

it'll be Cubs in Phillies in the NLCS Phillies taking it and there's a reason the Phillies taking it yes here my reason hold on I know

the shortstop on the Cubs and the Phillies and the DH on the Phillies personally

so if Danny you should know who the Cubs shortstop is oh uh Dan Sb Swanson

okay yeah So then the Philly shortstop is Trey Turner, and then the DH is Kyle Schwarber.

Happened to I know all three of them.

Are you a sports guy?

Like, are you, is this your personality?

So

I worked in the NHL and the NBA, and I currently work in college athletics as a consultant, handling marketing and communications, but I traveled to three college World Series, and I had all those athletes in Omaha.

So that's how I know him personally.

And then I had Trey Turner's best friend growing up on one of my college summer baseball teams.

Well, listen, Trey Turner used to be a Dodger, but then I think he got recruited by Bryce Harper to the Phillies.

So, anyways, Phillies have a great team.

I'm just glad Jack Pesovic's not here because he would be like all hooping and hollering about the Phillies, and no, thank you.

Anyways, God bless you, Anthony.

I think it's safe to say the office is pulling for the Cubbies, even me.

Okay, so all for Charlie.

This year, it's all about Charlie.

Yeah, throw cut

367 up there.

This was cool.

The Cubs actually did this for, maybe we don't have it.

If we, here, I'm going to, I'm going to send it to you.

Yeah, there you go.

367.

This is a picture, and it's 1776.

Kirk, Kirk.

They made jerseys for Charlie and Erica, and together it was 1776.

There's one more photo that's online.

Didn't he run the scoreboard or something?

Yes, he did.

Yeah, that's right.

That's interesting.

I haven't seen that picture, but I remember when they were like, hey, do you want to go up with him?

And Charlie was like, no, I'm taking Erica.

And I was like, totally cool.

So, yeah, that was great.

Thanks, Anthony.

Next Next question.

Elizabeth.

Elizabeth, next.

Can you hear us, Elizabeth?

Hi, I can hear you.

How are you today?

I'm well.

Thank you.

We've been praying for all of you guys.

You've been doing such a great job.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I was a long-time listener.

And before what happened to Charlie happened to Charlie, except for Mikey, I knew who all of you were, and I knew how much Charlie loved and respected all of you.

And you were going to do such an amazing job continuing his legacy.

I

thank you for that.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

So, which led me to the Charlie problem, which is we're all trying to get back to Christ in Bible study.

And I went on to Christianbook.com to get a Bible with a larger font size because I'm a little bit older.

And it led me down a rabbit hole.

And so there were all these sections for like apologetics, Calvinist.

There was like all this, what's between apologetics and Calvinist?

And how do you decide which way to go?

And don't worry, I found an actual Bible study I'm going to to be going to with a great church

who, by the way, he did a Charlie Crick Memorial.

He had a bunch of threats.

We had so many police there, and he stood his ground.

You guys would love him.

Amazing.

I really do love that.

Love that story.

I will say, so you're comparing apologetics, which is the defense of the Christian faith,

and Calvinism, which is a particular stream of Protestantism,

which is sort of known by the tulip, if you will, the five points of Calvinism, which is

total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, perseverance of the saints.

Those are the five points of Calvinist.

Even a lot of Calvinists are not five-point Calvinists.

They're like three-point Calvinists, or they'll say four-point Calvinists.

So, Elizabeth,

you'll hear people use this expression reformed theology, and usually it's a reference to Calvinism on some level.

Again,

you got to be more specific with your questions when people are saying, oh, I'm sort of Reformed or I'm Calvinist, because there's five points and then there's three points and there's four.

So I know that's all very complicated, but a lot of young people, it's worth saying, are going back to either Catholic church or they're going back to

Reformed churches.

And so it is a, those are probably the two biggest rising groups of

the faith right now, especially with kids.

So don't get bogged down on which particular stream of Christianity.

I would say if they read the Bible, they believe the Bible,

if they love Jesus, if they follow Jesus, that's a pretty good starting point.

Now, we've got open hand or closed hand and open hand of faith.

All right, what do we have in the closed hand?

That is that Jesus is God, He died on the cross for your sins, and you need to repent and ask Him to save you.

That's pretty much the closed hand.

If you want to go Calvinist or Armenianist, if you want to go Catholic or Christian, if you want to go

pre-millennium, post-trib, pre-trib, if you want to go any of those infant baptism, adult baptism, I get less worried about that.

The thing is, follow Jesus, give your life to him, repent and be saved, and let him,

his perfect death on the cross, his perfect life and his death on the cross for your sins will cover you.

And yeah, it sounds like you found a great Bible study.

If they're defending Charlie vocally and vociferously, despite the wokies, it sounds like you found a good one.

You want to add anything to that, Pastor Skid?

Yeah, I just,

the other thing, too, that's really big is Calvinism and Arminianism.

So I don't know if maybe that's also what you're referring to there, but that's often kind of the debate between the two.

Yeah, yeah.

Predestination versus self-determination or whatever.

Humans having their ability to reject God.

Bottom line is your salvation already being predestined.

Yeah, that's the same.

Well, I believe that people can reject him.

They shouldn't, but they have the ability to.

Well, were they predestined to reject him?

That's the question.

Anyways, it's a never-ending cycle if you want to get it.

We could be here all day.

Yeah.

But the point is, if your heart is leading you to a very close relationship with Jesus Christ and you're trying to get to church, you want to learn more about him and read your scripture, I would tell you this.

The mark of a new Christian, in my experience, is that they just can't get enough of the scripture.

They just want to devour it.

And it's different for everybody, I will say, but I've just seen that.

That has been one repeat thing.

They just can't get their head out of the scriptures.

And so read the Bible.

let it fill you, let it fill your heart.

And again, revival comes through repentance.

When the mass of people in a country or in a community just feel called to repent and give their lives to the Lord.

And what is repentance?

Metanoia, right, is the Greek, and that means turning around, means saying sorry and turning in the other direction.

So I always think of it as you're marching straight to hell.

Jesus stops you on the way.

Metanoia, you turn around, you say sorry, and you march the other direction.

You go towards heaven.

And God wants what's best for you.

God bless you, by the way.

And I just love that.

You know, have you already noticed just God speaking to you and

is your life changing?

I actually kind of felt, and I don't want to be like supernatural, but I tell you, I felt like Charlie sent me there because it was a memorial for Charlie.

And he was always talking to me.

I used to love your faith and freedom nights.

They were my favorite, my favorite thing that he would do.

And the pastor summits were so great.

He'd find a brave pastor.

I used to have a brave pastor, and my old church, I don't want to go into it, but they went into allowing gay marriage, and then they fired my pastor because she wouldn't do gay marriage.

So, I've been without a church for 10 years,

and that was a church that I was baptized.

There were so many stories like that.

It's so bad.

And I was baptized by my grandfather in my old church.

So, I've been meandering around trying to find a good church.

And also, I wasn't the best at Bible study.

It was always kind of, you need somebody who knows it, right?

It's a lot.

It's a lot.

Yeah.

But this church,

it was founded in 1750.

He's a very brave pastor.

He spoke about the trans insanity.

He got death threats when he went to the memorial for Charlie.

He stood firm on that.

There were a lot of police there.

He's a brave man.

He's a great pastor.

And I just sort of felt like Pastor Hasselback.

Great.

Thank you.

What part of the country?

He's

in Rockland County, New York.

God bless him.

He passed the test.

All right.

Go ahead, Blake.

Yeah, so I feel like I could go there and I'm not going to

be horrified what happens 10 years later.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, it was very hard to lose my first church.

Very hard.

I was thinking how tough that is.

Like, my grandparents who've passed since, you know,

they were ELCA Lutherans.

That church embraced gay marriage, everything else.

So they had to leave, but they were leaving a church they had personally helped build the building it is.

And there's so many little tragedies like that that have happened across American Christianity.

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Andrew Colvett here, executive producer of this fine show where we remember Charlie and we heap contempt and shame on those who choose to lie about him.

Can I get that shame?

I think we got a little sound effect for this.

Shame.

Shame.

Shame.

Shame.

Yeah, no, so yeah, so this is, we'll see.

we'll probably be doing this on other things, and not necessarily always Charlie stuff, but we had to lead off with this.

We were debating who we would hit this week, and then I saw this in my email this morning, and I was like, we're going to hit it.

This is the target.

So, Thomas Chatterton Williams is this

very aggravatingly centrist writer.

He likes, I think he lives in a castle in Europe or something.

Seriously?

Yeah, and memorably, literally just last week, he wrote in response to the Charlie Memorial this tweet that was essentially,

I've lived in multiple different countries, but I've never felt as alienated as I did by this because I had no understanding of this.

Oh, is this the same guy?

Same guy.

Oh, okay.

Now this week in the Atlantic, yesterday, he has this article titled, The Other Martyr.

MAGA has found it's George Floyd.

And so

he's tweeting about this and quoting all of this.

And yeah, so that's the article.

I think we have a photo of him too, if you want to show it.

Yeah, we've got a bunch of images of this guy.

He's like, for many, so I'll just read a quote from this.

For many on the left, Floyd's asphyxiation turned a flawed and desperate man into a Christ figure, someone who bore the weight of the world's failings, and in so doing, cleared a path to fix them.

In the feverish weeks since Charlie Kirk's assassination, the Magarite is undergoing its own religious ferment, animated by a new martyr.

Just as the left used Floyd's death to justify and hasten all manner of political ends, the right is invoking Kirk's name to advance illiberal aims and silence opponents.

All right, I've got, let's see, four minutes here.

I'm just going to blow this guy up.

Shame him.

Yeah, shame him.

First of all, let's just share.

Shame!

Shame!

Shame!

Shame!

So, but let's just be real here.

So, first of all, if we're just going to compare these two, I think you can judge, I think you can, to some extent, judge factions by who they decide to make into heroes.

So, let's compare

the life stories here between Charlie Kirk and George Floyd.

Yes, did you see it?

So,

George Floyd clap him.

George Floyd was essentially a career criminal.

He participated in a robbery where he held a gun to a woman's stomach.

He was having an encounter.

He was repeatedly involved in drugs.

He has an encounter with a police officer that ends his life because he's trying to pass a fake $20 bill at a gas station.

Can I just pause right there?

Two of the people that George Floyd was with that day did not freak out, and they are alive today.

Just for the record.

But

he is attempting to commit counterfeiting.

A police officer comes in.

It's unclear, but it seems very likely he basically swallowed a large amount of drugs he was afraid he would be caught with.

He freaks out in the back of a car, which causes him to be restrained.

He dies of this, basically from a drug overdose.

And that is the sum.

of George Floyd's life, essentially.

Well, also,

yeah, so I guess if you want to find similarities between them, you could say, you know, George Floyd, like, you know, committed armed robbery against an innocent person, and Charlie never committed armed robbery against an innocent person.

So they're kind of, they're unified by this, this theme of robbery, that one committed it, and the other did not.

And, you know, he, I think he had a,

you know, I don't believe he was married to the mother.

He had a child, I believe.

Yes.

Charlie, that's what I mean.

Charlie did marry

a woman and then had children with her who, and he remained loyal to her and was a loving husband and was a, frankly,

like lived a model life for others to imitate.

If you were to imitate Charlie's life, you will be happy and successful and have a great family.

If you were to imitate George Floyd's life, you

will probably die at a young age.

Just so you're aware, he was 46 and a father of five children.

So.

Alrighty.

But let's go beyond that.

Okay, let's also compare it.

The Floyd and the Charlie Kirk moments.

After Charlie, we had zero riots.

We had zero giant mobs trying to torch big cities.

We had

zero people trying to do a revelation.

We had zero statues topped.

With zero statues toppled.

Whereas with Floyd, we have riots in D.C.

We have riots in Minneapolis.

We have follow-on riots in Kenosha and everywhere else that are basically inspired by this with some new case to justify it.

We have an entire summer of Floyd with one riot after another.

We have literally thousands of businesses burned, looted.

We have them trying to put up this, you know, we support support BLM.

Please don't burn us.

Burned down anyway.

We had a police station broken into by Antifa in Minneapolis and burned to the ground while the authorities of Minneapolis ran and hid.

We didn't have any of that for Charlie.

We had a big rally in a stadium to memorialize him.

Rally is not going to be good.

We had a big memorial to him in a stadium that was like a revival in which all the people who were there as security said, wow, nothing bad happened.

Nobody was arrested.

No problems.

It was the cleanest event they'd ever run.

In which Erica, his widow, forgave the murderer.

The most incredible act of Christian charity and forgiveness you will ever see in a public setting.

So, yeah, actually, I'll give you this.

If you want to call this R.

George Floyd, I'll take that because I'll take that comparison every day.

Let's make that comparison.

Let's go.

Go off, Blake.

Go off, Blake.

And to this writer, what's his name again?

What's his name again?

Thomas Chatterton Williams.

What a really

annoying name person.

Thomas Chatterton Williams.

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

That's how I feel.

All right.

Shame.

All right.

All right.

Yeah, let's take another caller.

Let's take Greg.

Greg, can you hear us?

Guys, what's going on?

We're letting Blake, you know, we all grieve in our own ways.

I think, you know,

Blake go off.

So that's how we're doing we're all in that mode right now Greg what's your question uh just real quick uh just wanted to um thank you guys for everything you guys do I mean Charlie was one of one and

you know Grand Canyon void to fill but you guys are doing an incredible job

I just want to say that but real quick on immigration so um just wanted to get your take on it I'm Polish.

I'm from Poland originally, came here in 95.

You know,

got my green card, went through the whole ordeal process.

Now I'm a U.S.

citizen.

So it's, you know, it's really infuriating what's going on with this whole immigration.

And I don't know, like, what is the percentage of people like myself?

I'm hoping it's bigger than just very small, but that are infuriated by all the, all this illegal stuff.

And, you know, just the Democrats just being, you know, throwing all these privileges and rights at them.

And, and here I am, like, just go through the process.

Like, and, and it's kind of infuriating to see all that happen.

No, it's, it's profoundly insulting, is what it is, Greg, because

it's worse than just that you went through the process and other people are getting in without doing the process.

We make it like easier and better for the individuals who are violating the process, where if you just show up at our border illegally, you can do some cheat code to get temporary protected status, or you're an asylum seeker, and then you're eligible for way more stuff often than a person who actually comes here legally is in terms of programs.

You get a fast track to all sorts of stuff.

Whereas if you're trying to come here legally as like a high-skilled person, there's so many hoops you have to jump through.

It's so difficult for everyone to hire you or do all of this.

And it is profoundly insulting.

And I think it's something that is really underrated because the claim is always that anyone who came here as an immigrant is going to be angry if we restrict immigration in any way.

But I think you're testament to the fact that, no, a person who follows the law, a person who actually admires what made America great and came here for that is going to be very angry at, you know, a faction that just treats America as a giant pile of money to be looted by the rest of the world.

So I just want to say that I completely agree with you.

And I would also like to say as well that for young people, immigration is a total, like they're the ones getting screwed over the most because what happens is we bring in all these H-1Bs, which are technically legal, but it's a scam system.

But we also bring in all these illegals that'll work the hotel jobs and the restaurant jobs and the cooks and all this stuff.

And those were the jobs generations prior that were largely taken by high school kids that would be the entryway into a career.

Maybe they would start their own restaurant someday.

Maybe they would start their own hotel someday, but they never got started.

They end up getting sucked down some pathway on the internet or some Discord channel or some Reddit thread.

And

this is what's happening to a whole generation.

So we believe that you need to stop this.

Americans need to get the jobs.

Immigrants need to go home.

And we need to dramatically reform and curtail our legal immigration system so that only people like you are getting through.

I saw this meme, by the way, because Raheem Kassam is a friend of the show.

The National Pulse as well.

Great, great website.

You need to check it out.

The nationalpulse.com.

And

the meme was like, can Raheem Kassam just be the final arbiter on who gets in and who doesn't?

I was like, that would be great because Raheem is a good quality addition to the United States of America.

He's a patriot.

He came to the memorial, did a whole video about it.

It was beautiful.

But the point is, there are good immigrants, but we are so fed up in this country with getting the system gamed and having our people screwed over in the process.

It's a breakdown of the social compact because as a nation, we owe it to our own people to make sure they're taken care of first.

And until somebody in Washington or some think tank can prove to me that our people are taken care of, then I'm with Charlie Kirk on this.

I'll take an immigration moratorium as far as I'm concerned.

But I still like that people like you got in.

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You know, so this is funny.

There's a whole move.

I mean, I'm telling you, things are coming out of the woodwork.

I don't know that Blake is on board with this, but there's a whole move of people that really want us to have a halftime show, counter-programming.

I'm not kidding.

There's people putting up real opportunities.

So I would love to hear.

Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

Do you think Turning Point should be involved in some sort of concert, maybe with Creed?

Yeah.

Maybe people keep saying Forrest Green.

I'm going to be in this.

I don't know.

Zach Brown.

Do we know if Creed would be into this?

I'm pretty sure the lead singer would be.

I don't know.

I'm hearing that the band might not be available, but the lead singer might be somehow.

There's like a, I'm not exactly sure.

Or we could do Taylor Swift.

Michael Caboose.

Only if Nickelback can be there, too.

Sorry, Michael Caboose.

Anyways.

Next question here.

We have Jill.

Jill, are you there?

Hey, great.

Hey, we are in Missouri, and we have a bunch of adults that want to get involved like the kids.

Is there anything you can do to help us get started?

So I thought about this.

I've been thinking about this a lot and I actually think that we probably need to do something on the action side.

So we already have an adult group and it's called Turning Point Action.

And that is,

you're talking about, you know, you're upset.

Daisy gives me a little like preview, by the way.

So here.

So something they're passing, you know, you have politicians that are passing liberal laws, liberal agenda items.

And

that would be a very political thing.

And so, we already have an adult,

or at least something that adults can get involved in.

We have a lot of young people also involved in that.

But Turning Point Action is the 501c4.

So, whereas Turning Point USA is the C3,

we don't do RNC stuff.

We don't do candidate stuff.

It's just conservative ideas,

pro-American ideas on college campuses, high school campuses.

The C4 endorses candidates.

The C4 goes and knocks doors.

The C4 has an app, and you can get out there and send letters.

You can send postcards.

You can do all those types of things

through the app.

So what we probably need to do is we just need to have like state chapters or something, or like chapters for turning point action where people can get involved in the grassroots.

Because right now, you know, we launched it in earnest ahead of the 2024 election, and that was a get-out-the-vote.

campaign really that was the there was it does more there's like again we have a scorecard we we rate candidates We rate elected members of Congress and the Senate, things like that.

But it sounds like we need to maybe ramp that up a little bit because we could create a standing army with chapters in these different states.

And maybe there's local chapters.

I don't know where in Missouri you are, but we could do something like that.

But

kind of, we already have what you're talking about.

And, you know, obviously we have our national events.

AmFest is an all-ages event.

So we'll have, let's say, five, six, seven, eight, thousand students.

I have no idea what it's going to be this year.

I think we had like 7,000 last year.

But beyond the 7,000 young people,

we had 21,000 people in Phoenix.

This year is going to be much bigger just simply because there's just so much more attention.

But

you can go to those too.

And there's a whole bunch of TP action programming that's also a part of Amfest.

We do breakout sessions.

Tyler does a great job.

The whole action team does a great job there.

So that would be my answer.

Is that satisfactory to you, Jill?

Or are you?

That's very helpful.

What we're looking for really is the structure to build a club underneath at the state level.

We were part of a Republican club called the Pacadrum Club.

It was not very satisfactory.

Last year, our club raised $25,000.

All of that's going to sponsor kids to Amfest and to other TPUSA events.

We have so far 12 people coming this year.

Great.

And we sent...

We sent seven girls to Dallas and one kid to Tampa.

Fantastic.

Fantastic.

So we are, yeah, and actually, Riley Gaines was our speaker at our event.

So

we are totally all in.

We just need some structure to help us.

I was going to say, so I'm going to pitch this idea to Tyler.

Obviously,

we're all drinking through a fire hose right now.

You can't imagine.

It's like every day people are contacting us about something else, but this is actually something at a grassroots level that feels core to the mission and something we could say yes to.

So we have coalition teams, and maybe that's the way to do this.

But yeah,

I think there's just so much need and desire out there.

thank you jill for the idea i will give an update if there's an update to be had because i i agree with you um so thank you for your call and thank you for being a member members.charliekirk.com members.charliekirk.com.

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So next caller is Kelsey.

kelsey kelsey it sounds like you have a t swift question yes i do have a taylor swift question but i'm not a swifty just say that okay um

uh so her new album just dropped right and on her track wish list she essentially states that people want to get rich and have things or experiences but she just wants her man And she has a line in it that says, I just want you, have a couple kids, got the whole block looking like you.

Charlie talked about getting married and having kids and even shared that he wanted that for taylor when her engagement news came out and i like to think that charlie given his general dislike or maybe neutrality towards her um would really love that line and would just like your guys' thoughts on that so i'll chime in first you guys feel free to fill in the blanks here but charlie one of the last sort of if you will controversies that charlie was in was when he just said taylor i hope this makes you more conservative and i hope you get married you have lots of babies and then he said he said, but if you don't take his last name, you don't really mean it.

Which I still believe.

I still believe too.

But he was actually, it's funny because he took all this heat for it.

And I remember Laura Ingram asked him about it.

Our Taylor Swift experts.

Get her in the chair.

Yes.

And by the way,

you're going to have to give a baby update, Daisy, as well.

But Charlie actually,

actually, actually, in private group chat.

form, where it's, you know, like people don't believe.

He was actually really happy about it.

He's like, this is good.

He wanted young people to look at her and see the example of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, disagreements aside, and said, I hope that they will follow in her footsteps, but just earlier.

Don't wait till you're like 34, 35.

How old is she now?

34?

36, I think.

But I will say.

Okay, Swift.

Hi.

Hi, everyone.

How's the baby?

Great.

Sorry, everybody.

Are you naming your baby Taylor Swift?

No, no.

Blake actually thinks I should name my baby first name, turning, middle name, point, but I don't know.

It could work.

Last name, baby.

This could be an option.

How about Charlie Point?

But, okay, I will say, because we've had this conversation with Charlie before, where he's like, I just wish that I'm glad she's settling down.

I wish she would have done it sooner.

And Emma and I have told him every time she, all of her last albums, if you listen to them, she was in a relationship for like six years.

And every song, she's like, I want to get married.

I want to have children.

This person kind of her last album was like, he blindsided me.

He did not want these things that he said he wanted.

So then I think that happens to a lot of women where then they end up

32, 33, 34.

Yes, they haven't found someone.

Men, do not waste women's time.

My admonition to you men in the audience, get in and get out if you know you don't want to keep going.

Do not linger on.

Do not waste your time.

That goes both ways, by the way.

But I have seen

that particular dynamic play out so many times.

I mean, even, I remember we talked about this, you, me, and Charlie when her last album came out, and that was right after the breakup.

And she said,

I'm mad, essentially, that you let me give you all that youth for free.

Like, just feeding me all all these lies to keep giving that to you.

So now I'm

really happy for her.

Charlie was happy for her.

That's also on the woman, though, because I'm telling you, if a man wants to marry you, what do you think the approach?

Okay, question for the audience.

I'd love freedom at charliekirk.com.

Tell me what you think.

If you are a woman or a man who wants to get married to your boyfriend or girlfriend,

at what point do you say, if you're not going to commit to me, I'm done.

I'm moving on.

I love you and I want this to work, but if you're not going to commit to me, I got to cut this off.

At what what point do you, because wasn't she with him for like four years?

Yeah.

So that's way too long.

A long time.

That's way too long.

A long time.

I went on my first date with my husband when I was 19.

And essentially on our first date, I was like, either we are going to be exclusive and be in a relationship, or I'm not interested in dating you or really being your friend.

And then he was like, oh, my gosh.

Okay, we're going to be together now.

And so it works when girls do that.

I'm just saying.

And the other thing, too, he instantly called those four other girls and told them, no, I'm just kidding.

Look, if you're listening, the other thing, too, is, you know, a lot of young Christian people save themselves for marriage.

And so when you're dating and when you're in.

Common weapon that's got to work historically.

You know,

in Elizabeth and I, our case, you know,

we wanted to get it done.

We wanted to get married.

And

that does tend to incentivize getting married.

So yeah, to your point,

it's a very advanced form of societal tech.

Yeah.

Monogamy.

It's a good thing.

And that was the last conversation we had with Charlie.

Why is monogamy good?

And why is traditional

European Christian monogamy great?

This is crazy.

It's like, it's actually insane when you look at how much better it is than alternatives.

And you look at societies that don't have it.

And like the men and women hate each other.

You look at our society where men and women have way more conflict than they did in the past.

The Christian view of marriage is actually so great for curbing the worst impulses of both men and women and making them work together as partners.

You don't have men stringing along women.

You don't have them victimizing women or preying on them.

Women, you don't have them like constantly trying to upgrade to a higher status guy, totally polygamy.

You're right.

And here, here is 156.

This was Charlie talking about T.

Swift getting married.

This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative.

Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds.

Reject feminism.

Submit to your husband, Taylor.

You're not in charge.

And most importantly,

I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert.

I can't say it without laughing.

You got to change your name.

If not, you don't really mean it.

Congratulations, Taylor.

He meant that.

All right, Daisy.

Yes.

Okay, I just want to say back to our caller, Kelsey, your question.

Emma Kay was texting me about the album last night, and she was like, I wish that Charlie, we could tell him about this song because I have the lyrics put up here, but she's like, Everyone wants to go on spring break.

They want dogs that they can call their kids.

They want a yacht.

They want an Oscar.

And she literally says, I just want you, a bunch of kids dreaming about the driveway with a basketball hoop, settle down.

Wow.

Got a wish list.

I just want you.

And Charlie.

We were proven.

Charlie's prophetic.

Are you going to read the lyrics to the Woods song now?

No, I'm okay.

I don't even think I've listened to you.

I do want to just ask the caller, how do you feel that your first name is going to be Taylor Swift's last name?

I've thought about that and I am a little uncomfortable, but our name is spelled differently.

So there you go.

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all right so we uh we've had just a really this hour just flies by every every time we are we done with shames do it like just one shame this hour right

i don't know blake Do you want to do enough?

It's fun to do more.

It would be fun to do that.

We have two minutes to shames.

Do you have one you want to hit?

No.

You don't?

Tahanisi Coates, Nicole Hannett-Jones, Don Lamon.

I love the J.B.

Pritchard.

People don't like it when we talk about Don Lamon, by the way.

I saw your emails.

I saw your emails.

Don Lamon.

Oh, man.

Which one would we want to go after here?

There's so many.

There are ways to do it.

Look at this.

Yes, on a Creed concert at halftime.

One million times, yes.

Have Creed, any Rock 90s Christian band that hasn't sold out, and yes, do it.

The whole USA would support you.

You have the opportunity to ratio the stupid halftime show and reveal the heart of the nation.

Do it.

That's from Aaron.

I love that.

Should we do an Elon Omar shaming?

Oh, we could do that one.

Yeah, let's do that one.

Let's do 138.

Shane.

All right, 138.

Shame.

Shame.

And so the idea that this is a white nation that needs to be preserved

is a fascinatingly

disgusting view because this country is

one for the many.

It's one for the many.

It's one for everyone on planet Earth, including Ilhan Omar and her dad, who like worked for a dictatorship in Somalia that got overthrown, so that they can come here and she can marry her brother, which I'm just going to say because it's 100% true.

Yeah.

And if she thinks it's not true, like, you know, please sue me, Ilhan Omar, because I'm pretty sure it's true.

And it should be investigated to basically commit immigration fraud, steal a bunch of money.

Like, what a disaster.

Like, it's so bad what's happening in America where you can have a lawmaker come in and say, I look out for the interests of Somalia first.

And there's not really anything we can do about this because she now is in the government.

She is controlling the lever.

That would do what we should do, which is deport her back to Somalia.

Is there a way to denaturalize?

You can if you did crimes or fraud while getting your immigration, like while getting your citizenship.

But that feels awfully specific and relevant to this particular conversation.

Shame.

Shame.

Shame on Ilhan.

Shame.

Our next caller here,

we have Mary.

Mary, are you there?

We are ready for your question.

I am.

Hi, guys.

Sorry about the background noise.

We are traveling at the moment.

You're fine.

But I want to say, you guys, I am so impressed with how you guys are carrying on the show.

It's still surreal.

you know, to us that, you know, Charlie's gone, but it feels like he's still here.

Erica has been such a source of just power.

It's been amazing to watch.

But my question, I'm actually curious if you have some advice on, you know, with the current turmoil and division that's going on,

what practical role do you think the local church could offer to young people that the digital world can't?

That would inspire them to choose faith over fear and actually come back in person to church.

Mikey?

Yeah, yeah.

You're young.

You know church.

Yeah, I'm young.

I've seen him in your church before.

It's true.

Yeah.

I kind of dabble in all of it.

On the weekdays, sometimes maybe I'll go to a mass or something.

On the weekends, go to another church.

As much Jesus as I can get.

But right now, for young people, the biggest thing is like Forrest Frank, hearing from Christian artists, going back to church.

But then also I'm seeing from messages I'm getting are young people coming to our turning point events.

And so a lot of them are like wanting to come to America Fest, wanting to plug in.

By the way, we do a Sunday service and worship service at AmericaFest.

Yeah, we do.

Every Sunday.

And I think there is like this thing, Mary.

I've been talking about it a little bit more and more and more, but this, you know, this idea of new wine and new wineskins, right?

You can't put new wine in old wineskins because it will burst, right?

That's the parable that Jesus gives us.

And I think God is doing something new with the new generation.

So don't force what he's doing into an old paradigm, into like the image that you have in your head of what it's supposed to look like.

Because there is this, the old way was kind of bifurcating the gospel message and a political message or a cultural message or whatever.

I think that God is saying our whole lives have to be integrated.

Our patriotism, our faith.

You know, they're going to call this like Christian nationals or something.

I'm not saying you need to vote for this candidate or that candidate.

It might mean that.

It oftentimes probably does mean that, but we don't have to make it about that.

What we just have to say is don't bifurcate your life.

Integrate your faith, just like Charlie did.

And I think when it just comes off naturally and you're just honest about what's informing your political views or your cultural views,

people respect that, and I think it's a lot more natural.

So just, I would just say, be open-minded.

And to Mikey's point, I think it's a great idea.

Send him to Amfest.

Send him to Amfest.

Yeah, send them to, or get him plugged in at local chapter meetings.

And just have community.

That's the key.

We're going to get to one last question here.

Tracy, who's in Portland.

Tracy, what's your question?

60 seconds.

Hi there.

I have 60 seconds to talk.

Is that what you're saying?

Yeah, it's a quick one.

Sorry.

Oh, boy.

Well, I'll fire off the questions.

Yeah, I'm a fourth generation Oregonian.

I have two generations that follow me, so I'm old enough to be your moms.

And three questions this morning.

How do I support Sorter,

Nick Sorter, who was arrested and released this morning

in Portland down at the riots.

And then same with another gal that was hit in the face.

Anyway, how can I support Katie?

You know, I live, I have 100 acres 20 minutes from Portland.

Yeah.

Can

give them a place of respite.

Oh, that's quiet.

Yeah, so.

Yeah, I'll just say this really quick just because we're running out of time.

So Harmeet Dylan is on the case, and she is going to be looking into the Portland PD because you shouldn't be arresting journalists.

You should be arresting Antifa.

You should be arresting rioters.

So

raise your voice as loud as you can.

Tell the world on social media: have Nick Sorters back and Katie Davis Court's back boost.

I've also been involved with Turning Point USA in the past.

Thank you guys so much.

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