The Left Turns on Taylor Swift?

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All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this show.

Now I'm joined by Blake Neff, our not-so-secret weapon.

And we're honored to have somebody that maybe this audience wouldn't expect us to have on the show, but it's for a very important conversation, and that is Chris Cuomo, host of Cuomo on News Nation, a show that I had the pleasure of going on last night and talking about some really important things.

And we talked after the show, and he agreed to join us right here on this show as well.

So, Chris, welcome to the show, and thank you for making the time.

Hey, Andrew, appreciate being with you.

Thank you for being on News Nation, and I'm very sorry for the loss of your friend, Charlie.

Thank you for that.

And I know that.

I know that you are

because you've expressed it to me personally, and you've gone out of your way way to do so.

And I think that

deserves credit to where it's due because a lot of people,

the first things they reached out to are all about business.

It's all about what does this mean.

And when people come and

their first comment is, I'm sorry for your loss and I feel for you and you have nice things to say about Charlie, who I know

you and he and we disagree about the politics of it all.

We have a lot of different opinions and all that stuff.

But one thing that I noticed about you, Chris, and we talked about it a little bit last night, is, you know,

there can be a lot made of the who.

You know,

who did this?

But we can agree that the what is much more clear.

We know what killed Charlie.

What killed Charlie was people, and I said this on your show, excuse me, and you reiterated it, was that somebody or maybe a group of people, we're still waiting on some of the details there candidly, and we want the answers, but somebody decided to pick up a gun when Charlie Kirk, what he was about was picking up a microphone.

Yeah, it's a great line, and it is a perfect encapsulation of an evolving fundamentalism in our country and

the extremism that we see that is turbocharged by social media, that is monetized within our politics and digital media, that is capitalized on by this toxic two-party system.

This is bad directionally.

And what scared me most

after the personal feelings about the loss of such a young man

who was followed by so many

and what it meant to his wife and his babies, once I could get past that,

what scared me the most, Andrew, was the yeah, but

yeah, but yeah, but is really frightening when it comes to a moral analysis, okay?

Yeah, look, it's wrong to kill somebody, but no, no, no, no, no, but, no, but.

You want to talk about Charlie's ideas, fine.

Nobody wanted to do that more than Charlie did.

And

more than most, he did it with decency.

And I'm not saying I agreed with everything that he said.

Charlie and I were very plain about our disagreements,

but

I'm not not attacking him personally, not attacking how he tried to present himself.

And the idea of his murder is an absolute

low for us.

And that's all it can ever be seen as.

It can never be mitigated.

It can never be qualified.

Yeah, well, it's well said, Chris.

And the yeah, but was really terrifying.

I mean, Blake and I were, obviously, we were shell-shocked.

We're watching the whole world change.

Blake, you know, I think about this often with Blake, that that he was there a few feet away from Charlie.

And, you know, imagine our world and Blake's world as well,

especially.

Imagine what we're seeing in those few hours, days after it happened.

And you're seeing Congress getting into shouting matches about a prayer.

You're seeing celebrations.

We saw this, the yeah, but what it really manifested was this immediate race

by a lot of people that I have to find a reason I can feel okay with this.

I have to find a reason, actually, I can decide this is a good thing.

And they would fixate on the smallest, you know, the stuff we debunked in the episode the following week, where, oh, well, actually, he said this thing about the Second Amendment, so you can actually dunk on Charlie for dying.

Or he said this thing about affirmative action.

So actually, it's fine to think it was good that he was shot.

And that happens so often.

And that's not even getting into the darker stuff.

I mean,

I got messages from people I personally know who were gloating in my face about it.

Yeah.

Well, and you know how many pictures of the president's ear I've gotten

where people say his ear is fine.

There's no way it healed like this.

There's no.

And my point is: look, you bring me proof that they faked it, and I'll be all over it.

But short of that,

that would have been,

I don't even want to think about what would have happened in this country had the president been seriously injured, let alone assassinated as Charlie was.

And I actually reached out to Trump right after that and said exactly that.

Now, of course, the media and a lot of your friends wound up immediately weaponizing it and saying, I apologize to Trump for the media.

I apologize.

Like I was somehow responsible

for what had happened with that

evil assassin.

And that's where we're at.

And that's why, you know, one of the reasons I reached out a little protectively, Andrew, with you is I see

that people are using the opportunity of Charlie's assassination.

to promote agendas that not only weren't his,

but are kind of

shameless and disgusting.

I mean, even the Israel thing.

I mean, yeah, fine.

I'm paid off by APAC, you know, whatever silly conspiracy somebody wants.

Israel did it.

I mean, to weaponize it that way, to use you guys that way, is just cheap and part of the problem.

And it worried me.

So I wanted to make sure that you guys were getting to own.

your own narrative, you know?

Well, yeah, I mean, listen, we're, you know, we just announced that we're going to be doing the All-American halftime show.

We've got this tour coming that's continuing where you know we've got thousands and thousands of students at all these arenas we've got amfest that's going to be the biggest it's ever been we've got huge announcements coming up even just next week and so the work continues and chris i said this on your show last night it's we we have a sacred duty to live up to the legacy of Charlie, who I believe is a modern day founding father.

He was somebody that called us back to our national

ideals of debate and dialogue.

That's how I feel.

And, you know, listen, we have a sacred duty to live up to that, to harness all of this outpouring of energy, of enthusiasm, for patriotism, for faith, and what I believe can be a revival in this country, especially with young people.

And that's what we have to do.

We can't get bogged down by the controversies.

We can't get dragged down these rabbit holes online and

again, get fixated on the who.

The who is important.

We want justice, and we want to make sure everybody involved is brought to justice.

So, believe me, we are working on that.

And when we are silent, it does not mean that we do not care.

That was the other thing I told you.

I think I repeated myself, as a matter of fact, because in that silence,

there is an opportunity for a vacuum and a void to be created where other people will rush in.

But we, especially Blake, being a

witness,

but me and my role, we cannot negatively impact an ongoing investigation.

So, do not conflate or confuse silence on a very important matter for complacency or laziness or lack of caring.

We care.

If you think you care, we care more.

Let me just assure you.

Go ahead.

You have any questions for me?

Yeah.

I always thought it would be fun, and I'll come back another time if you want, brother.

And for you guys to show me where we disagree.

Yeah.

Show me where you think that I'm so different.

No, no, no.

Listen,

listen, I know that you have charted your own course after the CNN days, and I've been really excited to see, especially with COVID.

And

you say that conversation is a cure.

I think Charlie would agree with that.

You guys, Charlie never actually got to go on your show.

We were working on it behind the scenes, and I'm sad that that didn't happen, but you did get to be on with him at the Patrick Bett David for hours.

Yeah, so, and he, by the way,

he came away from that, Chris, and he said, no, Chris is a really, like, he's a really decent guy in person.

Like, I really enjoyed meeting him.

And, so, I mean, it was all positive, positive vibes.

But, Chris, I like keeping you.

I like that.

You know,

I didn't agree with some of his things.

The one thing I wish Charlie had had the chance to say here

what he told me when I was with him with Pat, I was like, you know,

how can you think that the Civil Rights Act was a mistake?

Oh, well,

and he said to me, and I've said this,

I've said this.

Now, people think I'm lying, but whatever.

He said to me, it's not what I meant.

Because I know you can show me clips of that.

That's not what I meant.

Of course, minorities needed to have the right to vote.

That's not it.

It's that the DEI that was embedded in the DNA of that legislation wound up being used in a way that has been bad for the country.

And that's what he was talking about.

That's what he meant, even if he didn't say it that way.

And I accepted it.

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My experience with racists, okay, you got three kinds, okay?

You got dummies, okay,

right?

People who are ignorant, didn't get exposed to diversity, or they're just dummies, okay?

That's one.

The second kind are the people who aren't aware that their behaviors or their words or both

are suggestive of a prejudice, that

it's implicit and that they're not trying to be that way, but that's how they're raised.

That's just how they think.

And it's correctable.

Then you have the third one, okay?

Which is the real problem.

Racists who are proud to tell you that they are.

And in my experience, if someone's a racist, they will tell you because they believe they have very good reasons for it.

And I see it being abused now, just like calling people on Nazis or saying that Trump is Hitler.

You cheapen the profound nature of the world.

Well, to be fair, though, Chris, just to be fair, people have been mislabeling people as racist for, you know,

basically as long as I've been an adult,

probably much longer before that.

Sometimes, but it's been

a lot of times they're not.

It ramped up a lot in the last, I would say, 10, 15 years.

A lot.

And you can see that by some of those charts and graphs that were the Wall Street Journal, how many times they brought up racism or racist.

There's no weaponized.

You are right.

You are right.

And what matters or should matter, it actually doesn't matter enough, is

why?

The reason it's ramped up is because we're going down a road of fundamentalism.

We are getting into extreme ideas and extreme belief systems.

And I believe it is fed by our system, the two-party system specifically, and amplified by design for profit by social media.

So that now it's not that like, I would love for you guys to pepper me with like, oh, what do you think about, you know, guns or whatever it is where you think that we disagree.

And I think it's a really great exercise.

And we don't want to do that.

Instead, I want to say, oh, that Andrew is a cuck

and that blake is soft.

And I destroyed them.

And, you know, I destroyed them.

And I did this and I did that.

And then I put it out in the clips.

And that's how it is.

That is, it's so toxic and people people don't get it.

And I say to them, just think about it.

I say to people all the time, you think you'd say that if you were standing in front of me right now?

It's funny, Chris.

Yeah, I would.

No, you would.

You know, it's funny.

I have this.

I don't know if this is bad to bring up, but one of the images of you in my head was, you know, somebody came at you in public, was in real life.

And I think the clip went viral for a little bit.

And you got this guy's face.

Like, you, you know, I remember thinking, like, look, you don't want to mess with Chris.

You want the truth, Andrew?

Here's the truth: the unspoken truth.

One, I almost got fired for that.

And a big reason that it almost happened was the president, the president saw the clip or was told about the clip and used it to make the point that people say his supporters are violent.

Look at this guy.

And he's, and he went another step and was like, and I know him.

And these guys got lucky.

And I'll tell you what, he's right.

They did get lucky.

And I'll tell you why, Andrew, what you don't know is they didn't stop me.

They stopped my nine-year-old daughter and said, is it okay if we take a picture with Fredo?

And as I was walking up the stairs, I heard this.

And I said, did you just call me Fredo to my nine-year-old daughter?

And the guy was like, yeah, like that.

Oh, yeah, you don't do that.

You don't do that.

And that's disrespectful, Chris, of course.

And

I'm sorry you had to go through that.

All right, Chris, I want to show you a graphic, and I'm going to have you reply to it.

Because it is concerning.

And I saw, by the way, so go ahead and throw up 265.

And we've talked about it on this show before.

And the question was posed, and remember, this is September 12th through the 15th.

Don't worry, I'll walk you all through it if you can't read it.

It says, the question was, so this is two days after it happened.

Okay?

Is it ever justified for citizens to resort to violence in order to achieve political goal?

And this is the percentage of responding yes.

And look at that really standout node right there at the beginning.

Age 18 through 39, if you're liberal, 30% of them, just about, maybe just under, maybe it was 29%, said yes, that it's justified to resort to violence to achieve political goals.

There is something going on with young progressives that they think violence is somehow okay.

What do you make of that?

A few things.

One,

I think it's not that that is true as a standalone.

It's the ands, okay?

One, they may call themselves progressives.

They may not.

I think the labels don't apply the way they used to.

And it's not just people on the left.

It's young people in general.

But Chris, but Chris, one second.

I just want to say, look at the conservative node there.

It's in

the other color.

It is

young conservatives.

Self-described.

Yeah, self-described.

They are less likely than even, you know, 60-plus-year-old conservatives.

Yes.

And I think there's a reason for that right now, which is the rageometer has swung the pendulum, right?

Everything is pendular in our politics.

Why?

Two choices.

The binary nature of it.

So the rage.

was on the right.

That's what launched and birthed MAGA, was the president tapping into a legitimate set of grievances, legitimate set of grievances.

And there was outrage.

Now it has swung and there's reaction formation to MAGA, the Demsox, I call them, the Democratic Socialists.

And they have the outrage.

They have the grievance of Trump as a fascist.

and of affordability and of perceived cultural victimization, which they grab onto in Gaza as well as here in America.

Like that's the level of surrogacy they have for this righteousness, whether or not it applies to them or not.

That's what's driving it.

And it is really dangerous.

How do we fix it?

Here's how you fix it.

Okay.

I've been giving this a lot of thought.

Usually I say, I don't know.

I'm not in the answers business, but here's the answer.

There's no way.

that News Nation

and every other media platform that you like or dislike has a level of responsibility for what it puts out there.

And the richest, most powerful media people with the largest platforms have zero.

Fix it.

Interesting.

Yeah, and I would say that, you know, to Charlie's credit, because Charlie gets lumped in with this, Charlie Kirk destroys Lib and all this stuff.

And I get it.

Those videos are out there on social media.

But 90%,

Chris, of his interactions on campus were calm, patient.

One of the most common things that we saw, especially as he got older, because he started looking at the students as like younger siblings.

He had the older brother role, and he was infinitely, nearly infinitely patient with so many of these kids.

And that became the most common comment that we would see on social media.

Like, Charlie, how do you feel patient?

And me as well.

That's what I hear.

But here you

can.

Those didn't always go as viral as the fiery exchanges.

And that's

something that's cooked into our basic wiring.

The floor is yours to finish it.

Never.

I mean,

it's not one thing, it's everything.

Okay.

And I get that most people don't get this because most people don't live social media the way they amplify the magnified minorities do, minority populations.

So they don't really get it, but it is infecting everything they do get.

And you have to stop allowing the algorithms to reward rage baiting.

I'm not allowed to do that.

If I were to do that, there would be so much scrutiny of, wow, all this guy does

give me reasons to hate people.

We got to wrap it up, Chris.

That was a really interesting conversation.

Thank you so much.

It's good to be here for taking the time.

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So,

you know, I used to always notice this when Charlie would get to like certain segments and he just was like, hey, I don't even know anything about what I'm talking about here, but you guys do.

So, and he would like love it because it was not on him.

So, we're going to be talking about pop culture, controversies, Taylor Swift, Zach Bryan, all the things.

But first, Mikey McCoy

has some news for us.

Yeah, so obviously, we announced the halftime show today.

Halftime, the all-American halftime-American halftime show.

And so, initially, there was a little bit of confusion because they were like, Is this the Forrest Frank, Corey Oz, Asbury halftime show?

Is this the same thing?

people are a little bit confused and I think originally Daisy we had announced it and then Corey also announced it and so yeah everyone just kind of talking about their ideas

I mean I do I do just want to say really quick that the the original seed of the idea came from a joke from Jack Pesovic I just want to say that

Jack does sort of get the to claim first dips here but anyways continue anyways so we posted that this morning some people were asking questions so just to put you know for clarity's sake here I about literally 10 10 minutes ago, I just jumped off a call with Corey, and it was a great phone call.

He's an amazing guy, great follower of Christ, does so much to bring people back to the Lord.

And it was an amazing phone call, 30 minutes long.

And our desire is to partner.

Our desire is to

proclaim the name of Jesus.

Collaborate.

Collaborate.

Yeah.

And so that is our desire.

And so it sounds like we're going to be building a bridge there.

Oh, well,

we can't get a hold of ourselves.

We can't get ahead of ourselves.

We can't get ahead But listen, the good news is that

people that love Jesus, people that are concerned about the things of the Lord,

there is no friction.

Okay?

There is only linking arms.

And I mean, that has been Erica's one guiding principle.

Or there's been a few, but like one of the main ones is that we want to make heaven crowded.

We want to see revival.

We want to see the name of Jesus made great in our land again.

And so that was a really positive step.

Good job.

Amazing.

I knew nothing about about that.

I knew nothing that there was like

competing things.

I was wonderfully oblivious.

What's most important is that it wasn't even anyone's specific idea.

It was the American public saying, we want something different than what we're given.

And a lot of amazing people from Turning Point Events, Corey,

whatever they're trying to put on, a lot of amazing people are trying to make that happen.

And we all want to do it together.

Yeah, and I think this goes back to the fact that Bad Bunny was just a bad choice.

And so a lot of people that really love this country, like Blake Neff, was like, I'm not going to stream Bad Bunny music.

Or maybe you do.

Do you secretly?

I have literally never heard of Bad Bunny until this time.

Well, and I'll just add this.

A chord of three strings isn't easily broken.

And so the more of us that partner together

to fight for what we believe in, the stronger we are.

And listen, this doesn't have to be a partisan thing.

This doesn't have to be a political thing.

This is just like...

There is a sense of what America is.

There's a sense about what faith, family, and freedom mean to people.

And we just want to do that.

That's why we want to do family freedom.

Less booty cheeks on a halftime show, more believers.

Less sexual anarchy.

Booty cheeks believers.

Yeah, we're more on this side.

That's really the division here.

It's also a perfect transition.

I was going to say, okay, so we're going to be talking about this.

Let's get this.

Let's take.

So,

Daisy is, of course, a Taylor Swift fan.

I also would like to say I do have other interests.

I know I really only come on the show to talk about Taylor Swift.

I'm not sure.

I do.

I feel like I only ever talk to her about Taylor Swift.

But this is obviously a recurring thing.

Charlie had very strong thoughts on Taylor Swift's celebrity and her relationship with that, you know, the Pfizer guy.

Travis Kelsey.

But now she has a new album out, and Daisy's going to tell us there's very interesting developments in how the Swift is going to be a little bit more difficult.

Well, we did talk about this once already.

So she talks about just wanting to have the white picket fence in the family.

Well, so that was.

Which we thought was good.

That was the day after it had come out.

And so the online chatter hadn't really started yet but since then that's been almost it's been a week since it came out almost a week since we had that conversation and she is getting

canceled by her own side she

people have found a lot of different lyrics that are microaggression microaggression this reminds me this reminds me of when uh that z gal from uh the on f America tour yeah uh was trying to like counter Charlie and Turning Point and then she got canceled by her own team for microaggressions

Exactly.

So, there are a couple things that are going on.

One, people are upset saying that Taylor is one of the quotes that I saw was that she has given the alt-right their conservative agenda on a silver platter because she's talking about how she wants to get married and have kids.

People use that term in the most idiotic ways.

And then, separately, she's getting slammed for her racism.

And what's the BlackRock?

So,

Topana.

Let's show some of the clips just so we can set the setup.

Do we have one one of those set up?

We have a montage of the left cancer.

Let's just start with, this is a couple of, let's do 118.

I want to have

your white babies, and I actually want our entire neighborhood to be racially homogenous.

She went through this entire thing with Trump, right?

About how she and her fan base did not like being called

childless cat ladies.

And now Taylor is calling y'all childless cat ladies.

Either the life of a showgirl is one big racist homophobic dog whistle or everyone has lost their absolute minds.

Currently singing about your new fiancé is endorsing eugenics now

and the song Cancelled is a MAGA anthem.

The Hamlet character Ophelia, a happy ending instead of a tragic one is an endorsement of the patriarchy.

The song Opalite is a white supremacist anthem for I don't know why.

And it's also homophobic too.

And also racist while we're at it.

The question is, is a dog whistle really a dog whistle if only the offended party can hear it?

Hmm.

So that person sounds like she was defending Taylor.

But go ahead.

Just kind of going through the general things that people are saying.

So there's a couple of things that are going on.

One, there's a song called Opalite.

Travis Kelsey's very public ex-girlfriend was a black girl.

Taylor's lyric says, you were sleepless in the onyx night.

Now you're seeing Opalite.

Something like that.

And people are saying that this is racist because Onyx is black, Opalite.

One of the articles I read said that Taylor represents Opalite because she's translucent and white.

I just have to say,

Taylor, you're finally getting a taste of what Charlie had to deal with for so long.

Out of context, people taking your words and twisting them.

I think that happened a few times with Charlie talking about Taylor.

We are getting twisted.

We have a clip of, I think, one of those complaints, by the way.

Let's play 124.

Taylor Swift has revealed herself to be resentful of black women, or at least deeply insecure when it comes to comparing herself to black women.

In the song Opalite, Taylor is referencing Travis Kelsey's ex-girlfriend, Kayla Nicole.

The lyrics of Opalite include: You were dancing through the lightning strikes, sleepless in the onyx night, but now the sky is opalite.

So, Taylor is not only using the lyrics in the song to talk about how she is so much better for Travis than his ex-girlfriend is, but she is choosing to do that using the imagery of Onyx, which is typically black, and Opalite, which is typically white.

Yeah.

So

it gets even worse, Taylor's apparent racism, because she has, in Wishlist, the song that we talked about last week, she says she wants to have a bunch of kids with Travis and have the whole block looking like you, which is clearly Taylor saying that she wants her entire block to look white and not, obviously not her saying she wants to have so many kids with her fiancé who she's in love with that she wants a bunch of mini, mini thems running running around.

But no, she's very clearly being racist by that one.

Another one, which took me a lot longer to understand, I still don't really understand that.

In her song Eldest Daughter, she says, I'm not a bad bee.

We can interpret what that means.

I'm not a savage, which that is a microaggression.

I think we're showing pictures up on the screen of people responding to that, saying that Taylor is showing her racism by saying that, because those are

she is comparing herself to his ex again, who we know is black.

So I'm just saying.

Blake, how many times does a progressive need to get burned by the insane progressive people before they learn that you do not make common cause?

Evidence I've seen from when I have investigated this is, unfortunately, it is infinity.

Some people can

just be humiliated over and over, like massively hated, and they'll never quite get it.

How did I know that you were human?

They will never quite get it.

That's also what I think is so crazy about this because, and in her song, Canceled, which one of the videos mentioned, it's about how she likes her friends better being canceled.

It's widely speculated that's about Brittany Mahomes, who has been associated with conservative principles, the alt-right movement.

And so, well, speaking of the alt-right move, or do you have a sorry?

I don't remember.

Well, I was just going to say, I think this is so crazy that people are saying that Taylor is so MAGA-coated in this album because Taylor is

every single election has come out and endorsed a Democrat.

She is very publicly against Trump.

Just because she wants to get married and have kids does not mean that she is a Republican.

There is a real dimension to this.

There's a real dimension to this where it really makes them come out and you realize they just can't stand normal people.

And not to mention,

this album is incredibly raunchy, like not kid-friendly.

Whatsoever.

Isn't there some of her magic wands?

She wants to get married.

Maybe she'll get canceled so hard that it'll actually push her to the right way.

That's what Charlie was hoping for.

This is a Charlie Kirk prophecy that's about to come true.

It's getting fulfilled.

Yeah, in our bits.

We should play 123, though.

This is a critique of her album being Republican-coded.

123.

Came across a video today of someone calling Taylor Swift's new album Republican-coded because it.

It obviously is.

And if you can't realize that, you're a victim of the media literacy crisis.

If only for the song Canceled, where she, the billionaire, paints herself as the victim of cancel culture.

People rightfully pointed out the person she was dating did a racist thing.

But beyond that, I mean, that's enough.

That's obvious.

Making, number one, that, and number two, an album about like an idealized form of like what is a typical American family, ideally, of like living in a suburb, being in a monogamous relationship, finding peace and joy, and basically just kind of being a housewife.

Those are Republican virtues.

Those are Republican virtues.

We'll take them.

Peace and

American families.

If she can go on a tour and if she announces that she is going to go on tour as Taylor Kelsey, I think

the early

dream is coming true.

Her fan base will explode.

I just want to apologize to the audience for playing that young man.

I'm sorry.

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My sincerest apologies to you all.

I know that was appalling for you.

I just can't get over.

You said peace and joy.

These are obviously Republicans.

Monogamy.

You know, those Republicans.

They like kids, family, you know.

I hope this isn't like a downer, but Blake and I's last text exchange with Charlie was about monogamy.

And we were talking about how it's a very advanced civilizational tech, how good it is for culture, how it directs male energy towards the building of families, the building of businesses, the building of civilization.

When I heard him say monogamy, Republican value, I was like,

how did

obviously good things become partisan things?

Well, it would become a partisan thing if one of the sides was against good things and liked things because they were disgusting and bad.

It's never been more clear that they are just, they're saying from this Taylor Swift album, which I think is crazy, that's where they're coming to this conclusion from, that they are against settling down and having a faithfulness.

I I think we should do an experiment where, like, you take really left-wing, insane people, and you just do exposure therapy, like, hook them up to some devices to measure them, and then just show them, like, a photo of a nuclear family with two children under age

and just see if, like, if they have this, like, visceral disgust reaction.

At this point, I suspect you would, and I think we need to research this.

We should bring back wife swap, but it's like a complete conservative, normal bad wife family with some

blue-haired, blue-haired

70-year-old girl living in

the city.

This is normalizing patently insane people, and we need to actually return to the taboo culture of yesteryear.

All we want, we don't want handmade stale, we just want the 90s.

That's all we want.

Give me the 90s, which maybe is a good inspiration for our halftime show.

But it is remarkable that normal things are now Republican-coded.

I think that's a win for the country

in the short term politically.

Because how are you supposed to win if monogamy is like a partisan issue?

Like, I'm pretty sure Democrats don't want to be cheated on either, you know?

I wouldn't want to assume that.

Okay.

All right.

We have more pop culture controversies, including Zach Bryan.

What's the next controversy we need to be educated on?

Zach Bryan posted a snippet of a song and he captioned it, The Fading of the Red, White, and Blue.

And in this song, his lyrics are, and ice is going to come bust down your door, try to build a house, no one builds no more.

But I got a telephone, the kids are all scared, and all alone.

So, Zach Bryan already is just not a good guy.

I think that's pretty well known.

I think

we talked about this.

I've also never heard of Zach Bryan.

He's a massive country singer.

He's incredibly talented.

Daisy King, what happened with him and Brianna Chicken Fry?

Yes, he publicly dated.

That was his former girlfriend.

Chicken fry is not actually her last name.

Oh, that's what we call her.

She's funny if she was.

She goes by Brianna Chicken Fry.

They publicly dated for a long time.

Then messy, messy breakup.

She came out, said that he treated her incredibly terribly.

Very, very,

very bad stuff about him.

And he offered.

In this story, yes, she,

like, I don't think she's a fan of us in any way, but she very publicly has said that he offered her $12 million

to never never talk about him publicly again.

And his

ex-wife also took the same deal.

Not $12 million.

He's been married to.

Yes.

He was in the military, was married, got divorced, and is now a very successful country singer.

But Breonna Chicken Fry did not take the money and has been speaking or has spoken about everything that he did.

Turning down $12 million to publicly hate on someone is some pretty

nuclear-level hatred.

Yes.

A woman scorned, Blake.

A woman scorned.

So

he, and he's always been pretty liberal, especially after all the Bud Light stuff happened.

I want to say that he,

the, we were conservatives, were canceling Bud Light, and I think he pretty publicly said Bud Light was going to be the sole beer he drank on his tour.

I'm 90%.

By the way, he's about 5'5 in person.

I actually,

don't get mad.

My wife bought me a ticket.

Sure.

I went to the concert.

Sure.

Oh, this is how it's going to be.

All right.

She bought it for me as a bird.

Can you get a shirt?

If you go to a tailor,

I did not go to a tail shirt.

Can we rush print a Zach Bryan number one fan shirt?

We need this.

I do not have that.

That's what we have to make it.

The first thing that I saw when I, so I enter the arena, and it's kind of done in the round, so he kind of moves around.

He kind of points to

all directions.

And

the first thing I noticed is that he had heels on his shoes.

Of course.

Like this.

There were bono heels.

He used to do that too.

And

he's just a very tiny person.

I mean, 5'4, 5'5.

Was it hard to see him from the crowd?

Even with the stage.

So why do we think he's a bad person?

I don't understand.

Well, I do.

Could the women be extorting him?

I don't know that I trust this stuff.

I'm just being honest.

I think there's enough.

Well, they clearly weren't extorting him because they turned down the money.

Yeah.

He always starts fights with cops when they're literally being so chill with him.

Morgan Wallen?

No, Zach Brown.

Sorry.

No, no, Zach Brown.

He got arrested for interfering with a traffic stop, and he told the officer,

I'm just a 27-year-old kid, man.

Okay.

Yeah, I think it's pretty well known that he's not the best.

The best guy.

He's also pretty

liberal.

Yes.

And so I also.

So he has comments, though.

He's commented on this.

Well, we have Christy Noam responding to it.

That's 114, if we want to play that.

I hope he understands how completely disrespectful that song is not just to law enforcement but to this country, to every single individual that has ever stood up and fought for our freedoms.

He just compromised it all by putting out a product such as that

that attacks individuals who are just trying to make our streets safe.

So Zach, I didn't listen to your music.

I'm happy about that today.

Today that makes me very happy that I never once gave you a single penny to enrich your lifestyle if you truly believe what that song stands for.

But I am going to go out and probably download some Jason Aldean songs, John Rich songs,

party, Kid Rock, any of those guys, those guys know what it means to stand up for freedom.

Okay.

So

you can't say the same thing that Christine Ohm said, that she's never given a penny to Zach Bryan.

I can't support him.

I can't say it.

But Zach Bryan.

My wife says all of you are less pure than me because you had heard of Zach Bryan.

That is true.

No, he is incredibly talented.

I can't believe you guys are just going to incredibly talent.

I just thought he is when he he my wife is like we're going to a country we're going to a country no he concerts that's what i thought he's very famous for a reason he's

really really an amazing so he responds though he responded and said that this song is actually about his love for the country and anyone that's using it as a weapon proves how divided we all truly are

he posted it well that's that's the end of our pop culture power half hour let us know what you think about zach ryan freedom at charliekirk.com and send us who you want to see at the halftime show the all-american halftime show.

I don't think Zach Bryan will win.

I don't think Zach Bryan's going to win it.

Talk to you soon.

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