The Left's Plague of Political Violence

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So, I want to start with just a praise report from last night at Montana State University where the Turning Point Tour, we call it This Is the Turning Point Campus Tour, had its next stop.

And

this place is packed in Montana.

This is not a population center, Blake.

And the amount of energy in this room was so extraordinary.

They were chanting, they were jumping up and down, and then Vivek Ramaswamy

left his campaign in Ohio, by the way, where he's attempting to be the next governor of the state of Ohio to come speak with our students, which just again shows the amount of commitment that the friends in the movement have for what we're doing at Turning Point.

Let's go ahead and play cut 88

and just to give you a small sample of just how raucous this crowd was at Montana State University.

You wonder if that could be the

maybe that'll just be our catch-all positive chant, almost like USA.

yeah you know i could i could imagine just seeing that break out years into the future just as a good

i totally agree

i'll never forget the first time i heard the charlie chant it was actually at politicon in that amazing uh jank uh moment that has gone viral where he went when he went nuts yeah yeah yeah

the viral clip and then charlie walks out of the venue i'm with him Actually, Erica was there too.

And it was all these young guys just go, Charlie, Charlie.

And And I remember going, wow.

He's lucky.

He's got a nice chantable name.

He's got a great chantable name.

Andrew doesn't want to have a bad thing.

You got to have a blank syllable.

Yeah, Blake's not going to work.

No, no.

So, but you know what this was for me, Blake?

It was like a clarifying moment because we've been through a lot in the last couple days and weeks.

And there's been a lot of fixation on the who, right?

The

like who killed Charlie?

Well, you know, they've got the suspect, okay?

We feel really good about that case.

It's very strong.

Here's what I will say, though.

What we need to make this about is the what.

And that is

the fact that we are back on campus, that we're talking about the ideas, we're dialoguing with students, we're dialoguing about the fact that we should be having a dialogue, that we should not be using violence, that we should not be using political violence, that we need to call that out and

basically root it out, root and stem from this country because we're seeing these very disturbing trends.

And that's what turning point is all about.

That is why, you want to know why turning point is so important important right now is because we have always been about the debate.

We've always been about the dialogue.

We've always been about having the conversation because that's what America is supposed to be about.

And yet there's this really disturbing story that's coming out of Washington, D.C., where a man is targeting.

It has been discovered with explosives.

So the Red Mass.

Let's talk about it.

So, all right.

So for those who don't know, the Red Mass is a thing that happens once a year around the start of the Supreme Court term.

It has its roots in the Middle Ages.

It's like a very formal thing that it's like a Catholic mass that's sort of dedicated to lawyers, which it's already a scary thing, you know, religious rituals and lawyers.

Don't mix well.

But anyway,

so it's a traditional thing.

Get dressed up.

And it's, of course, become a big deal because so many of the conservative Supreme Court justices in recent years have been Catholic.

They often go to this service.

And then a lot of other Catholic lawyers will attend it as well.

And so this man, Louis Gary,

41 years old, he apparently was in a tent in front of the church when police arrived to clear the area because there were going to be a bunch of Supreme Court justices there.

And then this guy clearly doesn't seem to have it all right, be all right in the head because he's just got a tent in front of this church.

And then when the police approach, he says, get away.

I have a bunch of explosive devices.

They said over 200, which sounded to me like, did he have just a bunch of fireworks or something?

But what it was, is apparently they were all homemade.

They were vials of nitromethane.

And it appears he was basically making homemade Molotov cocktail type things.

He told officers that the vials were intended to be used as grenades with rubber bands to secure the fuse, according to court records.

He was in possession of Molotov cocktails and modified bottle rockets covered with aluminum foil and treated in a pyrotechnic solution.

The devices appeared fully functional, so it seems.

He said, you might want to stay back and call the Federales.

I have explosives, Gary said.

Now,

we're fortunate.

This guy just appears to have been pretty nuts, so not really capable of pulling off a complicated attack scheme, but I think he's very indicative.

Just last week, we had the sentencing of the attempted assassin of Brett Kavanaugh.

That guy was a lot more

systematic in his approach.

He figured out, how can I, you know, how can I get a gun?

How can I get an approach?

He had like wire cutters and a knife and an act.

It was a serious attempt.

Very serious attempt.

Very serious attempt.

Flew across the country to do it and then would have done it except he had a failure of nerve when he saw federal agents outside Kavanaugh's house, turned himself in.

And then this federal judge says, You know, I feel bad for you because you'd have to go to a men's prison.

And now you say you're a transgender woman.

So I'm only going to give you eight years.

You've already served three.

You could be out, you know, three years from now.

And

then when, you know, when even when his own lawyer said,

like, like, the judge got angry when someone referred to this as a political attack, because judges aren't political.

Judges aren't political.

There's no, there's no political agenda that could come into play when possibly doing one of these.

And so, yeah, we're seeing this environment, this environment that people are marinating in because the left has used this, you know, they use the fascist word a lot.

They use the Nazi word a lot.

They really whip people up.

Anytime there's these rulings related to things like child gender transitions

things like that they won't say like oh this is a bad ruling they will say they're denying your existence they will say you they are trying to destroy your right to exist they're using this totalizing they're going to kill you rhetoric and loony people are taking that literally well and i you know this is why

In the aftermath of what happened to Charlie, it was so important that there was all of these accounts and a major hat tip to libs of TikTok.

I certainly didn't have the brain space to even do this but i saw you know you go on twitter everybody's outing these people celebrating because ultimately that is a culture that's celebrating death fetish fetishizing political violence and that's why i think it's important that we were trying to get some of these people fired i think that's completely we need a taboo on political assassins a thousand percent also though you need judges to not give

leniency to potential assassins.

This is the direct through line between these two cases: is that you have leniency on a potential assassin, and then, oh, lo and behold, a week later, this happens, where a guy's sitting outside of where all the justices are going to be with explosives.

Yeah, he's a loony, Looney Tunes.

He's crazy.

But you have to understand, if you do not enforce the law, if you do not punish evildoers, society will fall apart.

I love this headline.

NBC4 Washington had a tweet about this.

A man who had vials of liquid was arrested outside the Cathedral.

Impossible Hires was arrested outside the Cathedral of St.

Matthew.

And then it has, the readers added a note.

The vials of liquid were Molotov copy.

It's one of the all-time great.

It could have been his Diet Coke.

One of the all-time great

community notes on X.

But yeah, I mean, here's the thing.

We need to make sure that the evildoers are punished.

We need to make sure the taboo remains in full force, full strength.

And that's why people getting fired from their jobs is completely appropriate when you celebrate violence, when you act like a vile, ghoulish person, or when you're like Jimmy Kimmel and you try and lie about who's behind a certain attack, and then you're going to double down on it, then yeah, you deserve consequences and you deserve the backlash.

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Erica wanted us to read a an email that we got and that is uh go ahead and throw this up 308 it's a really beautiful email blake do you want to read it yeah sure sure sure i i saw uh we got this yesterday uh from jacob

and he says hello my name is jacob uh my dad introduced me to charlie kirk years ago and i'm so happy and grateful that he did i started watching charlie's videos on youtube and his debates and his college campus tours and i just fell in love with his enthusiasm that he had to talk to the younger generation.

He not only knew how to communicate, but he let people tell their side of the story, and he was not afraid of sharing truth.

I'm very thankful my dad showed me who Charlie Kirk was at such a young age.

I'm 28 now.

I have a

beautiful wife.

We have a small kitty together and we are hoping to start a family very soon.

Every day I see more and more videos of Charlie just saying how much he loved his family, how much he loved Jesus, how much he enjoyed just working and doing everything into the Lord.

My best friend's fiancé works for Turning Point, and we are so very thankful for all that Charlie Kirk has done for the younger generation.

We hope that you, Erica, and the rest of your family and the family at Turning Point USA continue to spread the love of Jesus Christ and to keep on sharing what Charlie's purpose was here on this earth.

We hope you read this and we know that God's plan is greater than ours.

Praying for your family and team.

Blessings, Jacob.

Yeah.

I just thought that was an amazing one.

Erica thought that was an amazing one.

She wanted us to read it.

We love these testimonies.

We're getting lots of them.

We can't read all of them, but we do love to see them.

Just how much Charlie was able to change people's lives for the better.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I took an Uber this morning,

and the gentleman happened to recognize me, and he was, he basically was, he ended up pulling out his phone.

And he used to live in Chicago.

He pulls out his phone.

He shows me a picture with him and his wife and Charlie from Chicago.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

And he was like, yeah, Charlie is the best.

My wife was at one of the vigils.

We just love you guys.

We're just so honored.

He was like, I'm honored to be giving you a ride.

I was like, well, thank you.

I'm

honored to have the ride.

And, you know, and you could tell that this guy was like, Charlie helped change Arizona.

He moved from Chicago to Arizona four years ago, and he said, I'm never leaving, partly because of the impact that turning points had in this state.

But he just, you know, it was just another one of those little things where you realize just how big the reach is.

And I love, I love what he said, what Jacob said in this email about promoting what Charlie was for.

And that's what I said last night was such a clarifying moment for me personally because I was like, ah, this is what it's for.

You know, like we are doing the hard work, and our students are the absolute heroes.

Charlie was incessant.

He would always say, these are the tip of the spear.

They are the brave warriors, these young men and women that are spreading conservative ideas on college campuses where they're oftentimes not welcomed, at least they especially used to not be welcomed.

Now I think we've seized some momentum here, and there's more openness to have these debates on campuses.

And then you have all our friends, whether it's Megan or Tucker or Vivek or Governor Gianforte last night was there.

We have all these campus stops coming up as well.

If we want to tell you about them, I probably should tell you about them.

We've got one at the University of North Dakota.

I believe that's going to be Glenn Beck.

That's going to be tomorrow.

October 9th, University of North Dakota.

Wait, that's okay.

That's tomorrow.

That's the one.

October 16th, University of Oklahoma.

We got, I think Russell Brand is going to be at that, among some others.

Indiana University,

that is going to be October 21st.

Say the cities because people don't understand.

Yeah, that's in Bloomington.

Bloomington, Indiana.

LSU, 27th, Baton Rouge, Baton Rouge.

Cool Miss in Oxford, Mississippi, the 29th.

Circle your calendars on that.

November 5th, Auburn.

Just one city.

One note on the October 29th one.

That's 10,000 people at that arena.

So as big as

fill it.

No, it's if you live.

going to be Phillip.

If you live in Memphis, you're not that far away.

If you live in Nashville, you're not that far away.

Yep.

If you live in Tuscaloosa, not so far away.

Auburn, we're going to have, I think Coach Tuberville is going to be there.

I believe Benny is going to be at that one and some others.

It's going to be a really big event at Auburn University on November 5th.

So

this is an amazing moment that we're seeing that the entire movement is galvanized about, you know, and I love it because it's these focusing moments where we get to talk about what we're for and what we're for is exactly what Charlie modeled.

And exactly what Jacob's email was about.

You're so right.

That's what this is for.

It's not to, we do the debates, we argue the issues, but the purpose of this is not to own the libs.

That is a tool.

The tool is to allow people like Jacob to have a better life,

to have a better country and people who are living out their faith, starting families, having those families be safe and successful and not being poisoned by all the negative things in modernity.

That is what it is for.

Yes.

Pursue the eternal.

Get married.

Have kids.

Have faith.

The good, the true, the beautiful.

These are the conservative ideas that bind us together.

And by the way, they were not welcome in so many of these places until a guy like Charlie Kirk goes in and makes a way for those behind to enjoy these good things that we all believe in and we all support.

And so that's what we're about.

That's what we're going to keep on doing.

And by the way, the momentum is incredible.

The momentum is absolutely incredible.

All these new chapters are getting started.

And we've got candidates around the country that Charlie endorsed.

And we're going to have one of them on next, Nate Morris out of Kentucky.

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All right, we are going to bring in Nate Morris in just a second.

But first, there's some breaking news on the Palisades fire.

Palisades fire.

So that's the fire that burned like a week plus in Los Angeles.

It's terrible.

Thousands of homes.

People, Turning Point employees, Turning Point donors lost their homes in that fire.

So a lot of people are interested in that.

I believe Gavin Newsom blamed it on global warming.

But in a big development today, federal authorities have arrested 29-year-old Jonathan Rinderknecht

on alleged arson related to starting that fire, they say.

They claim that he began the fire on New Year's Day, which then it seems like it went out and then it rekindled several days later, basically.

Like it was smoldering.

Yeah, it was smoldering.

And this is interesting.

Among the evidence that was collected from his digital devices was an image he generated on chat GPT depicting a burning city.

Yeah, you see.

And this might be, this is the first criminal case I know of where their chat GPT searches are part of the evidence against them.

I don't recall that.

So his initial appearance is scheduled for today,

and he is, of course, presumed innocent, but we'll keep monitoring that.

We don't know what his motivation might have been.

He might just be a little nuts, but if if he did, in fact, do it.

But we also

pay attention.

Yeah, we have a quick news clip

92.

Let's go ahead and play from the press conference, 92.

Today, we are announcing the arrest of 29-year-old Jonathan Rindernecht for igniting a fire that ultimately burned down the Palisades earlier this year, killing 12 people, destroying more than 6,800 structures, both homes and businesses, and damaging over 1,000 more buildings.

It's important to list the toll, right?

Not only the debt.

It's still not remotely close to being rebuilt.

It's terrible.

It's California.

By the way, there's all these rumors that they're using some of the empty lots now to put high-density housing.

This is one of the premier single-family home areas and neighborhoods

in the Los Angeles area.

And it's truly tragic if

they do screw up the zoning here.

So without further ado, I want to bring in Nate Morris.

He's running for U.S.

Senate in the great state of Kentucky.

He's taking on the McConnell machine, which cannot be stated enough.

Uh, Nate, welcome to the show.

We're honored to have you.

You, Charlie was so passionate about your race.

He endorsed you.

Uh, he got behind your campaign.

I, I mean, let's start there.

You know, tell us about what that meant for you to have Charlie's endorsement, the time you guys spent together, and um, I think that's the appropriate place to begin this.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's so great to be here with with you all.

And Charlie was such an incredible human being, as we all know, an iconic and legendary human being.

And I had the great fortune of getting to know him as I was launching or beginning to look at the U.S.

Senate race in Kentucky.

I'm a friend of the vice president's, and he had suggested I take a look at the race.

And part of the...

the work that I started doing was having conversations around MAGA World.

And Charlie was one of the people that I reached out to and got to know.

And he was so encouraging and so excited about this race and finally defeating the McConnell Mafia here in Kentucky.

He knew what a stranglehold Mitch had had on our party, how he'd stabbed the president in the back over and over again and sabotaged his agenda.

And Charlie made it very clear.

He said, we need someone who's a fighter.

We need someone who's strong.

We need someone who's going to stand up.

and fight like no one's ever fought before in this position.

And he knew how tough this was gonna be.

And what he said to me was, he said, if you do this, he said, I'm gonna come to Kentucky and I'm gonna help you launch this because this is how important this race is.

And he came to Kentucky early in the summer and we had about 1,500 people show up on a Monday morning leading into the 4th of July holiday.

We had folks, young people, we had grandparents bringing their grandchildren.

We had construction workers that had taken time off from the job site that had mud on their boots that were showing up.

I've never seen more electricity in a room than when Charlie filled it that day and launched this campaign.

And it meant so much to us.

Yeah, well, you know, Nate,

what's amazing about Charlie is he had this incredibly packed schedule.

I mean, it takes an army to even keep up with that schedule.

And it was like a Tetris, you know, game or something, how we pack things in.

And so we were, Charlie was sort of like...

very good at doing events.

At the times, you wouldn't necessarily do an event, right?

Ideally, you do it when people are off work or at this.

No, we just had to fit them in where we could.

And yet, despite that,

there would just be an electric atmosphere and so much energy.

And so, let's play a clip from that event, I believe.

And this is him endorsing you, Cut 74.

I will say this.

I was looking at the race.

I said, Is there somebody that will actually tell it like it is when he comes out of the gate?

He's like, you know, I'm here to take out the trash, and here's also Mitch McConnell.

He didn't quite connect the dots.

I said, but you know, I said, I like that guy.

He's willing to actually call out the McConnell mafia that have been running this state for so long and willing, willing to get in.

Because you better believe there's going to be a lot of attacks against Nate once you say it like this.

But you know what?

Take a page after President Donald Trump.

What President Donald Trump did when he went into the arena was he was unafraid to call out the political class.

You remember what he did?

He called out the Bushes.

He called out the Clintons.

He called out the Cheneys.

He called out all the Republicans that were there prior.

And honestly, he opened a lot of our eyes to the corruption and the deep state that was in front of us.

That was a beautiful moment, and he meant every word of it.

And I can tell you, he ended up following that up with a tweet.

Go ahead, throw up image 303.

So, Charlie says, the entire Mitch McConnell establishment in Kentucky is pulling out every dirty trick in the book to stop Nate Morris.

They hate Nate because he supports an immigration moratorium, opposes endless wars, and represents the end of McConnell's control over Kentucky politics.

And, Nate, this is really relevant now because there's this clip that's going viral about one of your opponents in this race, Barr, who has now been caught on camera basically endorsing

mass amnesty.

So explain this dynamic because Charlie was really against the illegal invasion.

He was really against actually the way we do legal immigration in this country.

He really found a common cause with you in that.

So explain what's going on in the state of Kentucky with your opponent.

Well, Charlie and I talked at length about this crisis facing our country.

We're in a crisis related to our border, related to mass immigration and mass migration from the third world.

And Charlie understood this better than anyone.

And we would often talk, this is a fight for Western civilization.

This is not just about one political cycle.

This is not about just politics.

This is about the fate of Western civilization.

We can look no further than go across the pond to the United Kingdom.

They've lost their country.

And Charlie would talk a lot about this.

And that same sentiment that created the problem in the UK is coming to the United States, that same kind of thinking.

And in 10 years, America is going to be closer to the UK than we would have ever imagined if we don't get tough and we don't stop this amnesty and this flooding of our borders.

And my opponent, Andy Barr, we call him.

Amnesty Andy Barr because he is for amnesty across the board.

And he talked in this clip that he refers to illegals as undocumented.

I mean, this is the terminology that Democrats use.

He called me a nativist because I want a full moratorium on any new immigration in our country.

And if you recall, nativists is what Hillary Clinton called members of the MAGA movement.

And the same breath, she said, basket of deplorables.

So

this is what I'm up against, but this is the McConnell machine.

And this is what they believe.

And this is what has been paying their bills and enriching them for generations.

I totally agree with that.

A couple things you said.

Get tough, immigration moratorium.

Listen, we have a culture that we love and we adore, and we love the people in this country first and foremost.

We are proudly American first,

America First.

And so I love what you're saying.

You're one of the few that has the guts to say it.

So God bless you for that.

Let's hear what your opponent has to say in his own words, Cut 72.

What we need in immigration reform is bipartisan.

We need a bipartisan solution on DACA.

We do need to fix that situation for

young people

who are undocumented, who are brought to this country no fault of their own.

We did provide

a, in the bill that I voted for in the Republican Congress, a legalization of that group that provided protection from deportation.

Okay, so let me just stop you right there.

Anytime I hear anybody talk about bipartisan immigration reform, I instantly watch.

Yeah, I mean, it's like, you're totally right.

He's using left-coded language.

What's going on here?

Is he like a secret?

I mean, I don't know Andy Barr.

I just want to say, but like, is he like a closeted lib in Red Kentucky that just knows he got to put an R in front of his name to like get ahead in politics?

I think so.

I mean, look, he is a classic throwback to that old school rhino country club Republican, the people that have run our country off a cliff, these career politicians like Andy Barr.

And he epitomizes what the McConnell machine has believed.

Because remember, Mitch McConnell, he goes around Kentucky, he talks about all the power that he's had for generations.

You know, he didn't secure our border.

He had enough power.

He could have secured the border.

He could have stopped this inflow of illegals decades ago.

He didn't do it.

And Andy Barr is going to take up Mitch McConnell's mantle.

He's going to be the McConnell 2.0 if he were to get in that seat.

And that's why he must be stopped at all costs, because he is for amnesty.

He wants his big business cronies to be able to have cheap labor and undermine the American work.

He wants to, he, you know, this is illegals are flooding our system in Kentucky.

I talked to a county clerk not too long ago.

They're trying to process 120 languages in Kentucky.

And just five years ago, it was English and Spanish.

And now it's 120 languages they're trying to

process.

And these illegals are flooding our hospitals, our schools.

And, you know,

we talk a lot about protecting Social Security in this campaign.

We must protect Social Security and Medicare, but we got to start by doing that by kicking every one of these illegals off the system because they've been frauding our system.

And we know that this is the crux of what this government shutdown was all about.

Well, I totally agree.

And by the way, it's a winning issue.

And you're right to zero in on it and focus on it because I think you're the only guy in this race that has any

credibility on basically the most important political issue of our time, the issue that got President Trump elected.

And, you know,

listen, you're going up against an an entire machine that has deep pockets, and they're going to spend it on you.

Wall Street, these Wall Street buddies from the McConnell machine are spending it against you.

So we are with you 100%.

Nate Morris, natemorris.com, right?

That's how people can support you?

Yes, come to our website, natemorris.com.

Be part of this movement.

The Patriots in Kentucky, we need your help.

The Patriots around the United States.

We are up against generations of political cronies, of special interests, of people that want to flood our borders like Andy Barr.

Amnesty, Andy Barr, we need your help.

Be part of this campaign.

And we are going to defeat Mitch McConnell, his machine, and everything around it once and for all and put it in the grave in Kentucky.

Well, God bless you, sir.

It's an honor to have you on the show.

Charlie was 100% behind your campaign, and we remain steadfastly in the same position.

So,

you know,

the machine has got to go.

We've got a clear house, a clean house.

In Kentucky, we're never going to get a senator from that state that represents the base and represents what Charlie wanted, what President Trump wants, what we want on this show.

So we're with you 100%.

God bless and Godspeed.

Thank you so much.

It's my honor.

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Blake, do we have have anything in the email box that

you want to float?

I got a kick out of Jack sent us a suggestion that what causes the bad actors is political psychosis, which he suggested is a combination of heavy weed use, using too much political social media, and playing too many video games.

I don't know if that's true, but I kind of want it to be true.

Because weed is bad.

It feels true.

Weed is really bad.

It feels true.

You know what we got to do?

We got to have Alex Berenson on the show.

Yeah, just

remind people.

Weed is bad.

Just for a very good primer, again, a refresher course on why weed is bad.

Don't smoke weed.

It's terrible for you.

By the way, if you care about the next generation, you should be anti-legalizing weed or making it easier to get for one reason.

There's enough addictive things in American life that are illegal.

Yes, but with young people specifically, it does lead to psychosis.

So, and that's provable.

You can't even argue with that.

So, Blake, we want to go SCOTUS conversion therapy.

We're going to go to FBI tracking, senators' phones.

We have, by the way, we have Jonathan Kieperman coming up for the entire hour today.

It's going to be so great.

We get to talk about the shock jock, Hassan.

We get to talk about

Mashed Potato, Katie Porter.

Yeah.

Did you know about that?

So, just so you know, like part of our struggle with hour one today is that we have all of these topics with a million things to hit.

But we keep wanting to wait for Lomez, otherwise known as Jonathan Kieperman.

The story with Lomez, just so everybody's aware.

One of Charlie's absolute favorite guests, first of all.

We had him on.

He was instantly like, let's have him on all of the stuff.

Charlie was like, we got to have Lomez, we got to have Lomez.

So he's coming on next.

But part of our struggle is we just wanted to talk about all these topics with Lomez.

He was known as Lomez online, very popular, sort of like underground.

It's so great.

Anytime you dox this liberal who's hiding behind an anonymous account, they turn out to just be hideous looking or something.

They look like somebody who would hide.

They look like a Portland Antifa mugshot.

Put the Antifa.

We have that.

Yeah, put the Antifa mugshots.

So

some ghoul, who also looks like an Antifa mugshot at, I think it was The Guardian in the UK, he doxes

Jonathan Kieperman.

And it turns out he's like, oh, he has a great family.

He's the top-rated professor.

Top-rated professor.

And all the reviews when he was a college professor,

he's a really hot professor.

Oh, yeah, I know.

All the ladies love Jonathan Kieperman.

So, yeah, he's now out.

So I don't even know what to call him.

Is it Jonathan Kieper?

Is it Lomez?

I still call him Lomezon.

I call him Lomez because that's what he is on X, and everyone should follow follow him.

By the way, the Antifa mug shots, hilarious.

I think it was N Wokeness.

Yeah, you've got it credited appropriately.

But I think the caption was, now we know why they wear masks.

It's like when you see them, you're like, ah.

You think they'd want to keep them up because they could take off their mask and turn whoever sees them to stone, like Medusa.

Well, they certainly have some evil powers, but usually it's just throwing Molotov cocktails at federal authorities.

But by the way, that story is still going on.

And, you know, I think if you could find a thread for this hour, it's that we want to be about what we're for.

Turning point's mission is more important than ever because the taboo against political violence is eroding, which is terrifying, by the way.

One of the things that I, by the way, that you said yesterday, Blake, that has stood out to me is this idea that there is this incredible incentive, should we lose power at the executive level, to commit violence against Supreme Court justices, especially conservatives.

I don't really worry about it the other way around because we're just simply not as violent as the left in the modern era.

However, why that makes sense is because if you have a Democrat president, then they...

If the Kavanaugh assassin in 2022 had actually succeeded in going through with it, Joe Biden could have trotted out some left-wing nominee and Democrats who controlled the Senate could have confirmed that person.

There is a very direct incentive, and that person would have been able to serve on the court for life.

I'm just curious, could you, in theory, pass

any sort of law that says if you commit, just to take this incentive off the board and say if somebody is the victim of political assassination, that the sitting president would have to defer the selection to the highest-ranking Republican in D.C.

or something.

Well, you don't want to create incentives the other way either.

Well, no, I'm just saying that you

yeah, no, but I'm saying, well, that's true.

That's true, because if,

you know,

that's a very dark thought.

This is the problem sometimes that I have.

Imagine, can you now?

Could you imagine?

Real Bader Ginsburg wanted her to know if they wanted her to retire.

Like, we're going to force your retirement, Miss Ginsburg.

And no, you don't.

So basically, the only option is to put bubble wrap around all of them, give them lots of security, ensure the U.S.

Marshals are monitoring their movements.

I mean,

this is really sick.

We should, I mean, as a culture, the fact that we're even debating this,

you know, God help us.

Pray for peace.

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