Ask Us Anything 243: Charlie's Favorite Book? Confronting Conspiracies? Charlie-Inspired Families?
Blake, Mikey, and Danny take an hour of questions live from CK Exclusives subscribers, including:
-What is the best way for Charlie's friends to confront the most wild and hurtful conspiracy theories about his death?
-Of the books Charlie wrote, what was his favorite?
-What does Jay Jones winning tell us about current U.S. politics?
Plus, one caller gives an incredible testimony about how Charlie changed her life by inspiring her family to have a child before it was too late. It's not to be missed.
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Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is probably the funnest hour of the week, certainly the one we look forward to the most.
It is the Ask Us Anything hour.
Speaker 3 It was Charlie's favorite hour of the week. Before we carry it on in his memory, I am joined in studio by Danny, a fan of the Ohio State University football team, but nobody's perfect.
Speaker 3 We'll get right into the questions because there's a lot of good ones.
Speaker 3
Do we have Bernadette? Unmute yourself. Can you hear me? Yes, we can.
Yes, we can. There you are.
Bernadette. Thank you for being a subscriber and shoot.
Speaker 4 Hi, Blake. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4 So I just really wanted to discuss how can we stop all these horrible rumors that are going on,
Speaker 4 you know, the collectiveness of everybody being so hateful towards the team and to what's going on with Erica.
Speaker 4 You know, it's just very hurtful since I've been a long-term turning point investor and I love Charlie more than anything.
Speaker 4 So I just think if we need to have somebody very strong to get out there and say enough is enough.
Speaker 4
We're continuing the mission of turning point. We don't want to lose a piece of Charlie in this.
We want to support Erica at every move. Stop analyzing everything.
Stop being toddlers.
Speaker 4 You know, stop the infighting. We have enough infighting in the party as it is.
Speaker 4
And I just think a little bit more of a stand should be taken because you guys have a very hard job. You have the midterms coming.
Yes.
Speaker 3
Yeah. You mentioned being an investor.
I think you email us all the time, don't you, Bernadette? I think I see those.
Speaker 7 Are they annoying, Blake?
Speaker 6 No, no, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3
Don't worry about it. I'm sorry we can't respond to all emails.
We get a lot of them. I try to respond to some when I can.
Speaker 3 But no, thank you for being such an interested supporter. So, so invested, you know, morally as well.
Speaker 3 Yeah, that's you know, that's a a very good question, and I'm glad you've asked it, because it is a tough thing to navigate. And you can see how
Speaker 3 we've worked around it, because there's a lot of things that are so vile, so hate-driven,
Speaker 3 just so loopy. It
Speaker 3 has certainly been the opinion of a lot of us here that it's just, it's not productive to engage with. You're only giving oxygen to a fire.
Speaker 3 But I think it's also true after two months, clearly, you know, it has not caused them to just go away. There's still some patty.
Speaker 6 There's people who harassing Mikey.
Speaker 3 There's people harassing other members of our team. And a lot of that's just,
Speaker 6 yeah, sorry, what was that, Bernard?
Speaker 4
I just kind of think that they're all children. And in order to stop this, you have to smack it down for once.
It's enough already.
Speaker 4
You know, you can't keep pussyfooting around it. You have to say, enough with it.
We've explained to you that this is what happened. I don't want to hear these lies anymore.
Speaker 4 I don't want to hear you tracing all over whatever Candace is saying or whatever this one's saying. You got to just be firm enough to say, enough, we're moving on.
Speaker 4 This is the way the case is going to go. And you know what? Pray for Charlie and let's get on and try to beat the game because we have the midterms coming.
Speaker 3
Yeah, exactly. So I don't want to speak up because I'm not Erica.
I'm not, you know, the senior people at Turning Point. I technically don't have a position in Turning Point.
I'm only with the show.
Speaker 3 So I don't want to speak up for anyone else. I get that.
Speaker 3 And I don't want to also, like I said, they have preferred we not give oxygen to really wild specific claims unless it's like absolutely necessary for some reason. Right.
Speaker 3 What I have done is I've tried to, when I talk about it, I talk about it big picture, which is there's clearly just a part of society that finds conspiracy theories really compelling.
Speaker 3 I was just talking about this morning.
Speaker 6 You put out a good tweet.
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. I said it this morning.
I'll just repeat some of it here, where you see how these things work.
Speaker 3 First of all, people get more attached to the idea of some conspiracy existing than any specific narrative. So they can swap in new things.
Speaker 3 Like they'll throw out some wild idea, something obviously debunks it, and they just instantly slot in a new thing that is as crazy or even crazier, and they don't really pause to think about it.
Speaker 3
People love to say, I'm just asking questions. And okay, it's true.
You can ask questions about things, but what is often the case is they're not actually that interested in answers. So
Speaker 3 people ask the question, oh, was he on the phone when the shooting happened? The answer is no. And
Speaker 3 okay.
Speaker 3 I guess that answer, it turns out they weren't terribly interested in an answer to that question.
Speaker 4 And then he wasn't on the phone.
Speaker 6 Yes, and just a loss.
Speaker 3
Just a loss of sort of basic thinking on a lot of things. So many things.
It's like, even if this was the case,
Speaker 3 who cares? So again, to use the one that we've talked about on the show, because I think we've confronted that. Like, if Mikey was on the phone with someone,
Speaker 8 what?
Speaker 6 Like,
Speaker 6 he wasn't. Again,
Speaker 6 he was not.
Speaker 3 But if he was, like, what? Oh, the conspiracy required that someone be 20 feet away from Charlie so they could call it in to say that it's done.
Speaker 3 Like, this thing that was happening in front of hundreds of cameras. It's, it defies rational thought, which shows that so much of this is not happening for rational reasons.
Speaker 3
And that's why you can't really debunk it. You can only, you can respond to it.
But I try, when I respond, I try to just show that we're aware of this.
Speaker 3 We're not ignoring it, but you also have to recognize it's not really defeatable through rational means.
Speaker 3 You just have to show, yeah, like you said, we're focused on what matters, which is winning elections, which is winning young people, which is converting people, pursuing the religious revival, doing the things Charlie cared about.
Speaker 3 And Charlie would be very distressed if we were just endlessly fighting weird conspiracy theories instead of doing the causes he gave his life for.
Speaker 9 And we do have Mikey on. If Mike, you have anything to say.
Speaker 6 Hi, Bernadette. Mikey, how are you?
Speaker 7 How are you?
Speaker 4 You look wonderful.
Speaker 6 Good. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 7 For those of you guys who do not, thank you, Bernadette.
Speaker 10 Charlie loved you.
Speaker 7 And for those of you who don't know,
Speaker 10 behind the scenes, Bernadette always would bring a gift to Charlie twice a year at our best.
Speaker 7 I sing it right behind you. There's the football.
Speaker 4 There's one behind me, and then there's one in his office, which is the Michael Jordan basketball, which is one of his highlights so Bernadette you're always such a good friend to Charlie but I don't want you to feel you I don't want you to feel hurt by all these horrible things we know that you have a responsibility you're a young man and I just want you to take a deep breath like I said and you know what let them spin their conspiracy theories you're a good kid you were had instructions to call Erica Charlie had a team that jumped right in there I know that team and we just got to move on we got to push to moving on and let's get to these midterms.
Speaker 7 Yeah.
Speaker 10
That's right. Thank you, Bernadette.
I just,
Speaker 10 it's, it's crazy. It's just, I remember taking the last picture I took of Charlie was at 1223
Speaker 10
right before he was shot. And I just, I took that picture.
My phone was already in my hand. I plugged my ears.
People thought I was on a phone call. I wasn't.
But I did.
Speaker 10
I'd, in fact, call Erica momentarily afterwards. But thank you, Bernadette.
That's very encouraging to hear from you.
Speaker 4 You'd be encouraged and you keep going because we need you and we need that team to take a deep breath and get your pants on and get running.
Speaker 12 Right?
Speaker 10 Thank you, Bernadette.
Speaker 6 God bless you.
Speaker 7
Now I'm just going to go to the next one. All right, I'll see you guys.
I'll see you guys in the malago.
Speaker 3
Get your pants on. I'm just thinking of the occasional times.
Carly has like a nice shirt with like shorts on.
Speaker 6 And he would occasionally have.
Speaker 3 Not often, not often, but it was a thing.
Speaker 7 No, but he said this too shall pass.
Speaker 4 So get it going.
Speaker 7 Right?
Speaker 6 Yes. Yes.
Speaker 7 Okay.
Speaker 4 God bless you, boys. And you know what? We always got your back.
Speaker 10 Thank you, Bernadette.
Speaker 4 Got it. Bye, Mikey.
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Let's just get right into our next caller. We have Stephanie.
Stephanie, unmute yourself and what's your question?
Speaker 14 Hi, thank you for everything that you guys are doing. Prayers are with everybody, Andrew, Erica, and the kids.
Speaker 14 My question was in reference to the Jay Jones situation. I obviously saw all the news about the tech scandal because my algorithm allowed it.
Speaker 14 What do you think the possibility is is that most Democratic voters weren't even aware of the tech scandal?
Speaker 9 I recently, I saw a poll on X that said that 83%, they think around 80 to 85, came around 83% of all voters were aware of the text.
Speaker 3 Yeah, I think the truth is, I saw, I think, a similar poll.
Speaker 3 It might have been the same one, but the truth is when you asked them, it's that I think only about 45% of people overall said that they thought the texts were disqualifying for him.
Speaker 3 Presumably, most of them are just Republican voters anyway.
Speaker 9 So the local Democrat Party, 47% of them think that threatening to kill your opponent's children is not disqualifying.
Speaker 3
Yeah, so a lot thought it was thought, some said it was concerning, but not disqualifying. Some said it had no impact at all.
And a few were unaware of it.
Speaker 3
But, you know, if you're bothering to turn out, these are lower turnout races. It's off-year entirely.
So lower turnout.
Speaker 3 There's also just more focus on them because no one's distracted by the presidency or the senate or all of those. We managed to make a state AG race a national thing.
Speaker 3 A lot of people did hear about it, but the truth is we have highly polarized politics, and a lot of people have taken away the lesson of the last few years that the way you get through any scandal, no matter how bad, is you apologize for nothing and you just move straight ahead.
Speaker 3 We're not even a decade removed from the governor of Virginia was caught wearing blackface in his...
Speaker 3 in the school yearbook, and he just obviously lied and said it wasn't me. And then I think he backtracked to to, I can't really remember.
Speaker 3 But the point is, he didn't resign, didn't give in, just played out his whole term. And in the end, they couldn't remove him.
Speaker 3 And I think that's what Democrats realized they could do here, that there was no point in being ashamed of it. There was no advantage to being ashamed of it.
Speaker 3 So just knuckle under, move ahead, and say Republicans are worse. It doesn't matter if we have an AG who,
Speaker 3
you know, really. People are emphasizing the text, but it's so many other things.
He drove, what was it, like 100, 120 or something?
Speaker 10 Yeah, they got out of community service.
Speaker 3
Really bad speeding, and then he got out of the community service in a scamway. That's actually shadier than this.
Like, you know what? He tried to kick a dog the morning of election day, too.
Speaker 3 I'm not a believer in dog gate, to be honest. That was
Speaker 10 funny. I would also just add to this that we need to also be asking how many Republicans knew about these text messages?
Speaker 10 Because what he was saying is super dangerous, which is only when people feel pain personally do they act on policy.
Speaker 10 So Republicans, this needs to be a warning to us that the left is not only moving towards further radicalization, but they're also going to use their political power for you to act on policy by you feeling pain.
Speaker 10 And so, Democrats, a lot of them knew about this and still voted for him anyways. But how many Republicans know about this story? And the answer is not that many.
Speaker 10 And we need to blast it out to everyone, especially going into the midterms, that
Speaker 10 we cannot allow candidates like this to get elected. But also, this should be a warning sign to the trajectory of where the left is headed.
Speaker 14 I guess a small naive part of me was really hoping that people wouldn't really still vote for someone if they were aware.
Speaker 3 Unfortunately,
Speaker 3 we're in a different country now, and people will vote for a lot of very dark things. And people should be aware of that because now we have an AG
Speaker 3 in Virginia who wants your children to die.
Speaker 3 That is the reality we are in.
Speaker 3
Thank you for your question, Stephanie. Let's go.
David is our next caller. Unmute yourself, David, and what's your question?
Speaker 16 My question kind of piggybacks off that.
Speaker 16 We're in the
Speaker 16 Communist California, and
Speaker 16 we got shellac.
Speaker 16 Pretty much we got shellac. So how do we
Speaker 16 educate our base so that
Speaker 16 So that we're because because you just talked about that we're in an off year
Speaker 16 But
Speaker 16 we're not really in an off year because it just keeps on going.
Speaker 16 President Trump has only been in office for eight months
Speaker 16 or 10 months. And
Speaker 16 we took a shellacking on Tuesday. So my question is, how do we
Speaker 16 do that?
Speaker 10 Charlie used to always say complacency is
Speaker 10 a cancer. And so I feel like a lot of Republicans have a tendency to just kind of sit back and get comfortable, especially after a victory.
Speaker 10 But we also have this obsession with infighting right now. And I said this last week, but when you're infighting all the time,
Speaker 10 you're showing to the world you have no more enemies to conquer, so you must fight each other.
Speaker 10 And so I know people who gave a ton of money to Prop 50 in California, and they felt as though it was a waste.
Speaker 10 I feel like California is going to rig it no matter what. But when are Republicans going to start working together, not be complacent,
Speaker 10 not sit back and get comfortable, but to just work hard time after time, show up to the polling places, show up to vote and actually take action, not just be comfortable. What do you think, Blake?
Speaker 3 We got shellacked in California, yet at the same time, I like to flag this.
Speaker 3 When you're in these off-year elections, turnout is down so much that if you had every person who cast a ballot for Donald Trump, even in California, last year, I think we would have won this Prop 50 race easily.
Speaker 3 And it's going to be like that. It was like that in Virginia, and it's going to be like that in the coming midterms even.
Speaker 3 There's going to be lower turnout where you're going to look and say, if we had everyone who turned out two years ago, we would have won every single one of these races that we cared about. And
Speaker 16 84% of the women, women voted for
Speaker 16 trash, and they think it's okay for men to be in women's sports, those women, 84%.
Speaker 3 84% of probably younger women, I guess.
Speaker 6 I don't think.
Speaker 8 Yeah, probably under 30.
Speaker 10 Are you referring to Mom Donnie to voting for Mom Donnie?
Speaker 15 Yes.
Speaker 10 Got it.
Speaker 8 Yeah.
Speaker 10
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. This is a worrying thing for us, too, because Charlie had an opportunity to reach out to the younger generation, but specifically to young men.
Speaker 10 And so the young men, they have a sense of responsibility and obligation to American society and history and to keep our country alive.
Speaker 10 They tend to vote more conservative, but young women are moving further and further to the left.
Speaker 10 This is where I feel very hopeful with just Erica Kirk and her ability to reach out to young women in this country.
Speaker 10 But that is a big warning sign that we need to write on the forefront of our minds going into the midterms and then also 2028 is young women.
Speaker 10 Obviously, New York is a bit of an echo chamber when it comes to how liberal the younger generation is, but 80%,
Speaker 10 83%, 84% voting for Mom Donnie
Speaker 10 for younger women, it's a very, very worrying sign.
Speaker 3 Yeah. And Charlie, I feel so unequal to the task because Charlie truly was, among other things, among his many talents, he was a world-class talent at whipping people up for races.
Speaker 3
And all of us are still trying to do that. Turning point action is still, we're still executing on the agenda.
That's what we got.
Speaker 3 Basically, our only win on Tuesday night was in Mesa where we had the full
Speaker 3 ballot, get out, you know, the
Speaker 3 block by block, build those relationships, knock on the doors, keep the machine well-oiled. And it looks like we got that win in Mesa, and that's good.
Speaker 3
But our ability to do that on a national level, let's be blunt, it's a very expensive thing to do. It's a difficult thing to do.
It is a time-consuming thing to do.
Speaker 3
It is not something you can do two weeks out from the election. It is not something that can be done on the cheap.
It's difficult. It's resource-intensive.
Speaker 3 And as the right, we kind of have systematically been disadvantaged on that. You've got to get alignment between the mission and what the donors are willing to fund and all of that.
Speaker 3 And Charlie was a world-class talent at that and a world-class talent at communicating with people. And, you know, I don't want to say like,
Speaker 3 would we have won these races if Charlie was still with us?
Speaker 3 I don't know because he just was so effective at build the coalition, mobilize the coalition, turn out the coalition.
Speaker 10 Yeah. And for young ladies, too,
Speaker 10 you're voting in troves for the party that wants men in your safe space, which is if you're going to the bathroom, if you're in a locker room.
Speaker 10 You're voting for the party that puts transgender men on the front of magazines saying that it's, you know, the most beautiful women in London are actually men.
Speaker 10 You're voting for a party where the
Speaker 10 mayoral candidate is coming from
Speaker 10
is an Islamist. And in Islam, like they, they do not respect women.
You are voting for this party.
Speaker 10 And Blake, you guys talked about this on the show earlier this week with Mamdani winning.
Speaker 10 this is New York City back on 9-11.
Speaker 10 You saw what Islam could do to the city. And now you are voting in droves and welcoming it in.
Speaker 6 Crime.
Speaker 10 And
Speaker 10
it's a really dangerous warning sign. But I don't think young women really understand what they're voting for because it's totally against their principles as a whole.
What do you think, Blake?
Speaker 3 The young women issue issue is tough because
Speaker 3
there's a lot of, Charlie would talk about this. You know, they are pro-social individuals.
They are norm enforcers. They do, they respond more to what is the vibe around them.
Yeah.
Speaker 3
And that has a lot of good purposes. There's a lot of good things about that.
When you're in a very good community, they help hold that community together.
Speaker 3
It's, you know, women are routinely the bedrock of a really successful church and a really successful neighborhood. They keep a community together.
They're the ones who are turning out.
Speaker 3 You know, if someone has a death in their family, you know, it's women who've been turning out the most after what happened to Charlie to support Erica.
Speaker 3 But they can be turned towards a lot of bad ends, especially in these big cities. And breaking that apart was one of Charlie's big missions, and it's a mission we're going to continue fighting for.
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Speaker 3 All right, so our next question is, let's go to Brandon. Brandon, unmute yourself, and what's your question?
Speaker 13 Hey, guys.
Speaker 17 I was just wondering,
Speaker 17 what was Charlie's favorite book that he wrote?
Speaker 3 I feel like the flip answer would be the next one, but Mikey might have a more true answer. But I feel like Charlie was always looking forward.
Speaker 3 So he was always talking about he was so excited writing the Sabbath book, Stop in the Name of God.
Speaker 3 I feel like the one we'd end up referencing the most probably was the college scam, just in the sense that was a very timeless topic, whereas right-wing revolution and MAGA doctrine were more embedded in a specific moment.
Speaker 3
But college scam comes up again and again. College is only more of a scam by the day, other than Hillsdale, of course.
And
Speaker 3 so I would, those are the two answers I'd think of. But Mikey, what would you say?
Speaker 10 Yeah,
Speaker 10 he loved all the books that he wrote, and he spent a lot of time on each one of them.
Speaker 10 And so each one of them are very special in their own unique way.
Speaker 10 Also, you just kind of get to see every aspect of his life as you get to read these books.
Speaker 10 When he was in his era of really pushing the college scam, he always pushed it, but that was when he was just obsessed with it.
Speaker 10 And then you can kind of see where his mind was at, where his headspace was at. Then you
Speaker 10 right-wing revolution, America's turning point. There's all these books that he wrote.
Speaker 10 But I personally, I feel as though one of his absolute favorites was his newest one that's coming out, which is Stop in the Name of God.
Speaker 10 And he was just so spiritually invested in that book. He was so obsessed with the book, the amount of time that he spent on it, talking with people that could give him knowledge and wisdom.
Speaker 10 And he wanted to just understand, he wanted to get it right because he used to always say that the Shabbat is a gift and you just need to receive the gift.
Speaker 10 And your punishment for missing the Sabbath, Shabbat, is that you missed the Sabbath. It turns out that the punishment was, in fact, missing the Sabbath because it was such a gift in his life.
Speaker 10 And he wanted to just share that with the world, that he would just stop one day a week and be with his kids and his wife and that time was dedicated to them but he was so spiritually invested in this book and it was really amazing and beautiful to be alongside him as he wrote this and went deep on this book and just really dived in but it he finalized the book probably the week before he he was murdered and I just he was so happy with it and it was it's just an amazing book.
Speaker 10 I can't wait for the world to see it, to read it.
Speaker 10 I just was looking at the copy literally today and was just in awe of what he was able to accomplish with this beautiful book.
Speaker 17 Do you guys know when that one's coming out?
Speaker 10 Yeah, it should be coming out just at the beginning of this next year, I believe is when it's coming out. But pre-order sales are actually available right now.
Speaker 10
And I know it's finalized and ready to go. I was looking at a copy today, but you're going to really enjoy it.
Thank you so much for that question.
Speaker 3
All right. Our next guy, we have Jimmy.
Jimmy, unmute yourself and what's your question? Yeah, thanks, everyone.
Speaker 12
appreciate all you guys do. So the question is wrapped around, you know, Trump had an amazing win.
Of course, Charlie Kirk, I loved everything he did to help do that with you and the team as well.
Speaker 12
And so he won the popular vote. He won.
He just won so much. So we're trying to get through his agenda.
His agenda seems to be, for many reasons, to be slowed down.
Speaker 12 There seems to be slowdown everywhere you look. So he's come out with this, especially during the time of the government shutdown.
Speaker 12 he's proposing a strategy to use to shut down the, or stop the filibuster, which apparently is some kind of Senate role that's used to slow down legislation and it's not in the Constitution.
Speaker 12
So I was wondering what your thoughts are regarding that strategy. I know that some GOP senators are for it, some are against it.
But just trying to get your thoughts about it as well.
Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm happy to weigh in on this. I have weighed on in on it in a few other shows.
Speaker 3 So I'll actually, I'll throw it to Danny and Mikey to to see how you guys feel it as younger voices, how you feel about Senate institutional reform.
Speaker 3 If you have anything to say, otherwise I can revisit what I've said the last few days.
Speaker 9 I mean, I get, I mean, I hear it from both sides, but from my point of view, from what I've seen, I think it's probably, it's dangerous because I don't like the idea of giving the Democrats in the future the possibility of just running wild with whatever radical ideas they want, especially with recent elections.
Speaker 9 They could gain back power pretty quickly here. And so I think there's definitely,
Speaker 9 we should be careful about doing it. And so there's some aspects that I'm kind of worried about if we do go through with it.
Speaker 3 Yeah.
Speaker 3 Mikey.
Speaker 9 Mikey.
Speaker 10 Blake, I'll let you take it.
Speaker 10 I will just say this. Gen Z as a whole,
Speaker 10 I'm a little worried that as, you know, I don't think they necessarily care about things like this.
Speaker 10 I think Republicans need to find the right, yeah, they need to find the right way to message this to young people.
Speaker 3 It is very true,
Speaker 3
especially young people. They care about results.
Like, they care who is delivering, who is making their lives better.
Speaker 3
And they're not going to be sold on an excuse, like, oh, well, this Senate practice that goes back decades. They don't care about that.
That's great.
Speaker 3 What I will say also, though, is if you are going, I've said this consistently. They can delete the filibuster if they have a plan for how to maximize its effectiveness that they can deliver on.
Speaker 3 So if you get rid of the filibuster and all you do is reopen the government
Speaker 3
And maybe, and reopen the government, and he said, pass national voter ID law. A thing I support.
I 100% support doing that.
Speaker 3 But I think if that's all you got from it, that would be a huge waste of getting rid of the filibuster.
Speaker 3 And now you've made it just even that little bit easier for the Democrats to go totally off the chain the next time they hold power, which they likely will someday.
Speaker 9 Yeah, and if we know anything about Republicans, we're definitely very organized and all together and have many points on yourself.
Speaker 3 Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3 Because you'd only have a year.
Speaker 3 You'd possibly only have 12 months until you have, and then, you know, and plus the lame duck period, you have basically 14 months before you have possibly losing the Senate, possibly losing the House.
Speaker 3 And then in that span, you could pass a lot of legislation if you had a majority ready to go. You could change America's immigration laws.
Speaker 3 So no more asylum seeker nonsense.
Speaker 3 you know, cut back on legal immigration, get rid of the diversity lottery, you make deportations way easier, you roll back all these like weird legal exploits they've developed over the decades.
Speaker 3 You could reform regulatory laws, reform environmental laws so we can build those houses that we wanted. You could blow up the student loan system.
Speaker 3 Say, we're not giving endless money to universities anymore. And you could pair it, like, we're not funneling endless money universities.
Speaker 3 Also, we're going to forgive a lot of outstanding student loan debt.
Speaker 3 That's the way to do it, not just the way Biden did, where he just snaps his fingers and makes it go away and turns the money spigot on forever.
Speaker 3
There's so many things you could do when you get rid of the filibuster, but we have a lot of bad senators in the Republican Party. Too many.
It's unfortunately the case.
Speaker 3
We're trying to make it better. They've gotten a lot better.
This is a much better Senate now than we had in 2017. But it's not a perfect Senate.
It's not an entirely on-message Senate.
Speaker 3 And so I've just tried to warn people, if we get rid of the filibuster, we could get very disappointing results with the current Senate we have.
Speaker 3 And yes, are the Democrats likely to get rid of it the next time they have power? Yes.
Speaker 3 But even if they have to spend a few weeks getting their ducks in a row to do it, that is a few weeks fewer before they're actually able to do it.
Speaker 3 And it makes it feel more transgressive when they do it. If we get rid of the filibuster, we own getting rid of the filibuster.
Speaker 3 And Democrats can claim with far less shame than they would otherwise: oh, we're just doing what Republicans let us do.
Speaker 3 You always have to think: what is the next order of business when you take an action in politics? And I try to make sure people remember that on the filibuster question. But if we're ready to take it,
Speaker 3 if we have the agenda in place, then by all means, full steam ahead. Tom is our next question.
Speaker 3 Tom, unmute yourself. and uh what's your question
Speaker 11 hey guys uh so you're doing such a great job i miss charlie greatly but you you really are stepping into the role thank you thank you thank you thank you um so listen i'm a senior member of generation x
Speaker 11 and uh by two days
Speaker 11 so um don't get me started on the boomers not my favorite but i'll just leave that there and
Speaker 11 and ask this question how
Speaker 11 how do i and other generation Xers
Speaker 11 help the courageous generation step into their role right now? Like, what could we do? How could we encourage? How could we connect?
Speaker 10 Yeah, that's an amazing question.
Speaker 10
And Gen X and boomers too. Here's the thing.
The suspicious, people that are suspicious of you are the ones you want to win over because they're guarding their loyalty to you.
Speaker 10 Once you win someone who's suspicious of you over, they're beyond loyal to you.
Speaker 3 And boomers,
Speaker 10
they love their generation. They want to make sure that their generation is good.
And I just think that's very honorable of them.
Speaker 10 And I just, Gen X and boomers, the best way you guys can help us is just know we need help. And you guys, you've been through life.
Speaker 10
You've experienced the ups and the downs and the tragedies and the hardships. And we need your help.
And Gen Z and young people in general, we need your help. And so
Speaker 10
two, three weeks ago, I spoke at Liberty. Erica was supposed to speak there and she couldn't travel.
She asked me to go fill in for her. So I traveled and went and spoke at Liberty.
Speaker 10 And that was my speech.
Speaker 10
They are the courageous generation. That is what Erica labeled them as, is the courageous generation.
They have a lot of courage, but they feel a little bit hopeless.
Speaker 10
And courage without hope leads to recklessness. And so they're a little reckless.
They don't know where to turn. They need help.
Speaker 10
That's why you see young people turning to radical ideas as the solution to their problems with Mom Donnie and other radical candidates. And we just need help.
Be there for us.
Speaker 10
Oftentimes, people will just kind of tell the younger generation, pull yourself up by the bootstraps, figure it out. But we are courageous.
Help us. Help us find our way.
Speaker 10 And there's nothing that will stop this courageous generation of young people, as Erica called us,
Speaker 10 to change America.
Speaker 10
Our hero was Charlie Kirk. We are fired up.
We love Charlie and our hero is gone and we want to put our courage in something. So thank you.
What an incredible question. Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Speaker 11
Thank you. Thank you.
What a great answer. That gives me encouragement and hope because I know this generation is going to fulfill what God has for them.
Speaker 11 But I just want to be that cheerleader, the catalyst, the
Speaker 11 people that come alongside, really.
Speaker 13 If you're a listener to the Charlie Kirk Show, you know that Charlie built an amazing community through conversation. And that was online, that was in person, it was everywhere.
Speaker 13 We're able to go very viral about what we're able to do on TikTok.
Speaker 2 Billions and billions of views.
Speaker 13 But it was one connection at a time. TikTok offers opportunities for respectful exchanges of ideas.
Speaker 13 And through that, opportunities for community, not to talk over each other, but to talk with each other.
Speaker 13 On TikTok, you'll find creators who teach and encourage a carpenter passing on his craft, a a mom explaining how to make a budget stretch, or a gardener showing us how to bring a backyard back to life.
Speaker 13
Different stories, but the same drive. The desire to connect and to understand.
That's what makes a strong community.
Speaker 13
A common desire to connect, to find a way forward through respectful dialogue, building trust and feeling heard. Freedom to speak what we know and hear each other out.
That's the power of TikTok.
Speaker 13 It gives everyone a seat at the table, a place to speak, to listen, and to remind each other of what connection really looks like. Conversation build connection and connections build communities.
Speaker 3
We're trying to hit every single question that we can and our next one is from Jean-Claude. Jean-Claude, unmute yourself.
Thank you, Daisy. I think we know what your question is going to be about.
Speaker 3 Unmute yourself, Jean-Claude, and shoot. Hi, can you guys hear me?
Speaker 3 Yep, yep.
Speaker 8 Hi.
Speaker 17 Yeah, so the first one was... I've heard you guys mention a Charlie Kirk book list a lot, but no one's ever mentioned the list that he put at the end of Right Wing Revolution.
Speaker 17 There are like 30 books on there.
Speaker 3
Yeah, all right. Yeah, you are right, and we should mention it more.
I helped contribute what was on that list of books, so I really should remember it myself. Aha! Here we are.
Speaker 3 Yes, in the section, Changing Yourself in Right Wing Revolution, which I think this was rare for a bit after the assassination, but I think there's additional copies out there, hopefully, for people who would like to get it themselves.
Speaker 3 Or I imagine there's digital books these days.
Speaker 3 I don't read too many e-books, but I know they exist as a thing. But a lot of,
Speaker 3 it's an interesting book because a lot of it is about, it came out in early 24, I believe, and a lot of it is immediate political stuff. So there's a lot about the 2024 election.
Speaker 3 But the entire back third of the book or so is about the importance of changing yourself to be a more effective person in the political realm. And I'll read the book list in a second here.
Speaker 3
But a lot of it is, yeah, the importance of changing yourself. And some of that is you should just be a better person.
So some of that was, don't watch porn. Get married.
Speaker 3
Date seriously towards marriage. Have a successful family.
Care about your kids' education. But it's also, you should be a well-read person.
You should not be a dummy. You should.
Speaker 3
You know, don't just sit on social media. Don't just watch slop.
Don't watch reality TV. You can make yourself a better person, which Charlie tried to do.
Speaker 3
So yeah, well, let's rattle off the list of books that we had. This is just, he said, none of us is perfect.
And this is just a starting off point. And you don't need to read all of this.
Speaker 3 This is sort of just
Speaker 3
some quick hits. Let's start actually with the philosophy, politics, economics list he had.
He had The Republic by Plato. He had The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius.
Speaker 3
I know that was a big favorite of his. The City of God by St.
Augustine. The Imitation of Christ by Thomas Akempis.
I definitely recommended that one. That's a very medieval one.
Speaker 3
The Federalist Papers by Founding Fathers, Madison Hamilton, and Jay. Orthodoxy by G.K.
Chesterton. Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl, a big favorite of Charlie's.
Abolition of Man, C.S.
Speaker 3 Lewis.
Speaker 3
The Fatal Conceit, The Errors of Socialism by F.A. Hayek, as well as The Road to Serfdom.
He would like that too.
Speaker 3
The True Believer by Eric Hoffer. Collected essays by George Orwell.
Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Freedom. And Genius, a mosaic of 100 exemplary creative minds by Harold Bloom.
Speaker 3 That might have been another one that I recommend he include.
Speaker 3
We also have some good history works. We had The Civil War, a narrative by Shelby Foote.
A History of the English-Speaking Peoples by Winston Churchill.
Speaker 3
From Dawn to Decadence by Jacques Barzoon. Charlie definitely would have only read a summary of that one.
That is a very, very long book.
Speaker 3
The Russian Revolution by Richard Pipes. Citizens, a Chronicle of the French Revolution by Simon Schama.
I've read that. That is one of my favorites.
And we have some great literature here, too.
Speaker 3
The Iliad and the Odyssey by Homer. The Divine Comedy by Dante.
The Complete Works of William Shakespeare. Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky.
Speaker 3
Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte. We need books for women here, too.
That's an all-time classic. 1984 by George Orwell.
The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene. That's a great Christian novel.
Speaker 3
Scoop by Evelyn Waugh. That is one of my favorites.
It has the important lesson that journalists have always been pretty awful, but
Speaker 3 it's a good lesson to have and it's very funny. The Bonfire of the Vanities by Tom Wolfe.
Speaker 3 That is an incredible one, and it teaches you that everything we worry about today was happening decades ago as well. Giselle! Giselle, unmute yourself, and what is your question?
Speaker 5 Hi there. Can you hear me okay?
Speaker 3 Yes, we can.
Speaker 5 Thank you so much for taking my call. I'm just so sorry for your loss.
Speaker 5 I've been praying for your families, for TPUSA, for Eric and the children, just daily since he's been murdered.
Speaker 5 I never had the privilege to meet Charlie myself, but even so, I felt like I lost a beloved, like younger brother.
Speaker 5 He was a decade younger than me, but worldwiser than I was at 31 or younger.
Speaker 3
Thank you. Thank you so much.
We've heard so much of that from people.
Speaker 7 You sure touch them like that.
Speaker 3 And it means a lot to hear from that from people like you.
Speaker 5
Oh, thank you. And I've been listening to your show off and on pretty much since, not since it started, but like around election day of 2020.
So a good long while.
Speaker 5 And, you know, when you hear someone's voice that many times in your head, you, you know, you do feel like you know them almost, even though you don't in real life.
Speaker 5 So your show is just, I'm so grateful for you guys keeping it going. And thank you.
Speaker 5 And the thing I wanted to share, though, too, is that my husband and I, we have a new little baby daughter who's just just turned, almost just turned a year old just last week.
Speaker 5 And we
Speaker 7 were, we're older.
Speaker 5 older we're a little bit older like i said we're uh in our 40s and um we were very we've been married a long time but we were very happy being dinks you know focusing on our careers and um if we actually finally gave our lives over to christ in 2023 and later on that year we um actually heard one of charlie's uh sermons that he gave as an episode of your show i think it was in a church in north dakota and he talked about how um children in a marriage is like God's perfect design in most cases.
Speaker 5 And it kind of got us off the fence like on that topic. And,
Speaker 5 you know, I really do believe that God used, you know, Charlie to get that message out to us. And, you know, we kind of took there, taking that a lot more seriously.
Speaker 5 And, you know, last year, you know, we were blessed to give birth to our, I was blessed to give birth to our beautiful daughter.
Speaker 5 And I really don't know if we would have done it before it was too late if it wasn't for me for that message. So, you know, I hope you all know that he had such a huge influence.
Speaker 3
That's so, that is so beautiful. I mean, I'm so happy you called.
I'm so happy we got that.
Speaker 6 Wow.
Speaker 5 Yeah, I've been thinking about, yeah, I've been thinking about that all the time ever since his passing.
Speaker 5 I mean, it's just been such a, he was such a huge influence, even on people a little bit older than him, like me and my husband. We're both in our 40s, like I said.
Speaker 5 So he was such a huge inspiration to us. And I was also just wanted to ask if,
Speaker 5 you know,
Speaker 5 I was wondering if either the Charlie Kirk show or the Turing Point store might ever consider selling like onesies or baby clothes because we would love to support that.
Speaker 5 I know they're knockoffs, but I'd love to support the action one. If you ever consider selling those, maybe?
Speaker 10 That is an easy question to answer.
Speaker 3 Daisy has informed me. Or Mikey, you want that? You want that, Mikey?
Speaker 6 Go ahead, Mikey.
Speaker 3
No, go ahead. Go ahead, like.
She says, shout out, proclaim365.com. That was Erica's daily wick before she was put into her new bigger position.
Speaker 3 That includes baby clothes, baby blankets with Bible verses and other Christian content on them. I'm told the blankets are currently sold out.
Speaker 3 They are locally sourced and made in the USA, USA, so you have slightly more complicated supply lines, but you can get them there.
Speaker 3 But I just, that is so, such a beautiful story. I'm so glad you called Giselle.
Speaker 10 I'm so happy to hear about
Speaker 10 it.
Speaker 5 Thank you all so much.
Speaker 6 Charlie E.
Speaker 10 sell baby clothes on the Turning Point USA store as well, by the way. Okay.
Speaker 3 Excellent.
Speaker 10 I believe we do.
Speaker 6 Excellent.
Speaker 5
Thank you all so much. And thank you for all you're doing to keep this everything going.
And we'll always keep you in your prayers. And we definitely have your back.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3
Thank you. Thank you.
I think of that line: you know, he who saves one world saves the entire world. I think it's a Jewish proverb, but it's kind of, you know,
Speaker 3
a life exists because of Charlie's witness. Yeah, definitely.
That's a life of infinite importance to God, of
Speaker 3 infinite importance to their family. And it's a life that,
Speaker 3 were it not for Charlie, would not be here. And,
Speaker 3 man, that's that's incredible.
Speaker 3
Oh, man. Oh, we we have one last question.
I'm just going to read it because I'm worried we won't have time. Otherwise, it's Christine, and she says, C.S.
Lewis or Tolkien?
Speaker 3 And while we're at it, Tozier or Jonathan Edwards?
Speaker 3
That's tough. I think I've got to go with C.S.
Lewis.
Speaker 3 I read Lord of the Rings for the first time, surprisingly, late last year, and I liked it. But it did not have the same impact on me that reading Lewis did when I was a younger person.
Speaker 3
And I think he had a bigger, broader breadth of how he wrote. I am not qualified to answer the Tozier or Jonathan Edwards question.
Are you qualified, Mikey? You're the pastor's kid.
Speaker 3 I'm not overly qualified, but C.S.
Speaker 10 Lewis is my answer.
Speaker 3 But what about Tozer or Jonathan Edwards?
Speaker 6 Are you a sinner in the hand of the name of God?
Speaker 10 I think we should make also a list of authors that Charlie liked.
Speaker 6 I think that's a good idea. Not just books.
Speaker 3
We should just have it as like on an FAQ on our website. Thank you, Christine.
Thank you, Giselle. Thank you, everyone who called.
We love these questions. We love answering them.
Speaker 3 And we look forward to having them next week.
Speaker 3 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.