It's Election Day! Watching the Races that Matter

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Speaker 4 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's election day,

Speaker 4 so here we are starting the day out. We're also going to be finishing the evening out with live updates.

Speaker 4 We're going to be streaming this evening, so check us out on all the Charlie Kirk Show platforms and socials, and we'll make sure you have access to that.

Speaker 4 Of course, we're going to have our star-studded team, our our election day team,

Speaker 4 and Blake.

Speaker 4 In honor of Charlie Kirk, and those of us gathered around this table right now understand that Charlie loved election night streams, and you, the audience, tuned in by the droves to hear Charlie do it.

Speaker 4 So we're going to honor Charlie. We're going to remember him, honor his legacy, and we're going to be right here again tonight.
So set your clocks. We're going to start at 7.30 Eastern, correct?

Speaker 4 That's when we're starting the stream? 7.30 Eastern?

Speaker 5 I think maybe 6.30 Eastern.

Speaker 4 Oh, you know, it's the mountain time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, 6.30 Eastern. I apologize.

Speaker 4 So glad I did that. Jack Pesobic, Human Events Daily Host, joining us today.
He's in town this week, as well as Blake Neff back from assignment. Always good to have you, buddy.

Speaker 4 You know, I want to open just before we forget about it. Okay, we're going to be talking about New Jersey.
We're going to be talking about Virginia. We're going to be talking about New York.

Speaker 4 But there are a lot of other places you could be voting if you haven't voted yet. Yes, if you live in Minneapolis, your mayor is up today.

Speaker 4 You've got gross Jacob Fry, but but he's running against Omar Fateh, the kind of Somali goblin-looking guy that's grosser. Vote in that.
California, we have Prop 50, is it?

Speaker 4 Proposed to gerrymander the state. You could vote in that if you're one of our many California people.
All of you guys were always begging, Charlie, get more involved in California.

Speaker 4 That is a race you guys could make a difference in.

Speaker 4 Such a good point.

Speaker 5 And by the way, Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

Speaker 4 Pennsylvania Supreme Court. Listen, this show has a huge audience in a lot of different parts of the country.

Speaker 4 But actually, weirdly enough, the California, it's partly just because there's so many people in California, but we also have great radio spread in California.

Speaker 4 We have a huge audience in California. And so to your point, Blake,

Speaker 5 Prop 50,

Speaker 4 is it yes or no, Blake? Oh, man, I can't remember.

Speaker 4 I think it's no. No,

Speaker 4 no.

Speaker 4 I'm going to give you the answer. I didn't mean to put you on the spot.
It's vote no on Prop 50.

Speaker 4 There's been a, I mean, this is basically to reverse a referendum vote where the state of California, by the way, you know what's hilarious about this Prop 50 thing thing is that they set up an independent commission.

Speaker 4 Arnold Schwarzenegger, of all people, has been out loud and proud on this, saying vote no. And I appreciate his efforts.

Speaker 4 You know, whatever, you know, past disagreements we might have, he's right on this.

Speaker 4 And, you know, even the independent commission has been radically corrupted because remember, you get mostly Democrats that are on the independent commission. So,

Speaker 4 you know, it's better than Prop 50, but even the Independent Commission could use a lot of work. That's the bottom line in a state like California.
But, Jack, let's turn our sights to the east, okay?

Speaker 4 So, we've got the three

Speaker 4 biggest areas of focus is going to be Chitterelli and New Jersey. So, vote for Chittorelli.
We've got Virginia, we've got Winston Sears, and then we got a

Speaker 4 AG race, which is actually probably the closer of the two.

Speaker 4 So, if you're thinking Winston Sears can't win and it's not worth going out, put those thoughts aside.

Speaker 4 You need to put those thoughts aside because here's the deal: everybody needs to get out, pull the trigger for Winsom Sears. That's probably the worst analogy I could use

Speaker 4 in that race, but you need to vote for Winsom. You need to get out and vote for Winsom.

Speaker 4 And then we also need to get the AG race over the top. And that one really has a chance big time, I would say.

Speaker 4 I don't know where the prediction markets are, but we need everybody in Virginia to think positive thoughts, get out to the polls, and make make sure that the top cop in that state does not end up being

Speaker 4 Jay Jones, who is a real problem, who has fantasized and fetishized the murder of his political opponents as well as their children. This cannot be.

Speaker 4 So Jay Jones must be defeated, must be defeated soundly. The good people of Virginia get out to the polls.
So we've got New Jersey, Chitterelli, we've got Virginia, we've got Mom Dani versus Cuomo.

Speaker 4 There's been some big moves in that race.

Speaker 4 Jack,

Speaker 4 there is some,

Speaker 4 I would say, movement in the fact that Elon Musk has come out and endorsed Cuomo. President Trump has come out and endorsed Cuomo.

Speaker 4 Now, Zoron is saying, this is a reason to vote for me, of course, which is exactly what you'd expect him to do.

Speaker 4 Do we see any signs of life for the Cuomo camp? I mean, because

Speaker 4 there's different areas of thought here. There's different schools of thought saying that Zoron's outpaced and we just can't catch up with him, or are we seeing this race tighten?

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 5 before I answer, and we are seeing some signs of that, but there is one thing that I do want to say is that for all the people who will be voting today and all the people who need to be voting, there is one person who will not be voting today.

Speaker 5 And there is a person who voted every single election, but this for the first time, I think, I guess, since he turned 18, who will not be voting today for the first election.

Speaker 5 And his name is Charlie Kirk. Charlie will not be voting today.

Speaker 5 Charlie should be sitting right here today, covering down on the election day coverage today and then all night on the Super Stream, which was, and we all know this, it was his favorite night of the year was election night.

Speaker 5 All right. He absolutely loved doing this.
That's why we're going to keep the tradition going and be here. Tyler will be here as well.
But Charlie Kirk will not be voting tonight.

Speaker 5 And Charlie Kirk will not be hosting tonight. And we know why.
Because a violent leftist stole that right from him.

Speaker 5 A violent leftist stole that right to vote, his right to freedom of speech, his right to everything. And so for everybody out there, go out and vote today and do it for Charlie.

Speaker 4 Amen. Do it for Charlie.
And by the way, I'd be remiss if we didn't mention the vote against retention.

Speaker 4 Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so it's no, no, no. The way these races are, it's no, no, no.
So Pennsylvania, you've got, and you've got a race to look. Everyone's got an election.
Go out and vote today.

Speaker 5 Obviously, the races are close there. You mentioned the AG race.
I pulled that up on the prediction markets.

Speaker 5 And believe it or not, about a couple of, it looks like like yesterday, the race really tightened up.

Speaker 5 Just as of last night, it tightened up from like, you know, so suddenly the Republican Jason Miaris flute, I'm looking on Calci, he dropped way down to almost 50%.

Speaker 5 And it looked like the Democrat Jay Jones was ticking up to above 50% at one point. This is the prediction markets on Calci, right? And then, but now all of a sudden today, as of 11 a.m.

Speaker 5 East Coast time, and I guess it's noon East Coast time, that suddenly now

Speaker 5 Jason Miares is pulling away with it. He's now back up to about 57%.
So there was this strange tightening and now, you know, a diving out.

Speaker 5 On the New York race, which is the one you asked me about, and I'm not going to be one of those guys who doesn't answer questions, we saw some really interesting data out of Calci, and I got this from New Jersey as well, that even though it looked as though Mandami is running away with it, if you break it down to Calci traders who have come in from New York only.

Speaker 5 So if you parse out the data and and say, okay, everyone who's outside of New York City,

Speaker 5 we're going to take that out. Suddenly, Cuomo's up nine points.

Speaker 4 Well, and I want to say this, too, and I know we, that's a really interesting. So insiders inside the city are actually more bullish on Cuomo.

Speaker 4 And we have seen, we saw that poll from Atlas that came, that showed that the race was tightening in the final stretch here, that Cuomo was making up some ground.

Speaker 4 Zoron was not putting his best foot forward. This is something we talked about with Mark Alpert actually last week, that, you you know, sort of this grievance politics, the guilting

Speaker 4 Cuomo about not visiting a mosque or whatever. These were not good looks.
Something about Zoron's, his mojo has been off here in the final stretch of this race, and he's looking very, very vulnerable.

Speaker 4 He's not talking like a winner. He's not talking like somebody.
Or,

Speaker 4 contrary to that, the other opinion would be that he is assuming that he's going to win and the mask is fully off.

Speaker 4 But regardless, Atlas has the race very much within striking distance, which is, which is, you know, listen, if we could get one miracle today, well, listen, I'll take all three, but I want to leave you guys with this.

Speaker 4 Regardless of what happens today, we are playing offense on their turf. Think about this.
Virginia basically was thought to be a blue state, then Glenn Young took it back.

Speaker 4 But, you know, we kind of knew that that was a Glenn Young was an exceptional candidate, and he took it back, made the state a little bit more red for a time, right? So that's basically a blue state.

Speaker 4 We're playing offense in that state. New Jersey, blue state.
Chitterelli could really win that race today. Chitterelli could really win the New York or the New Jersey governor's race.

Speaker 5 If Republicans turn out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if Republicans turn out. And Pennsylvania, we could stop the communist takeover of that state as well from a judicial standpoint.
So we are playing offense on their turf.

Speaker 4 So look, look alive, be encouraged. There's reason for hope here, and

Speaker 4 we need to stay on it.

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Speaker 4 This morning we woke up here in mountain time.

Speaker 4 So two hours off of East Coast. I'm going to get this right.
We just switched actually in Arizona. Arizona didn't switch, the rest of the world did.
That's how it works.

Speaker 4 So we're getting our time zones sorted here. But there were bomb threats.
in it looks like seven different counties in New Jersey.

Speaker 4 And what's hilarious about this is that you have Zoron Momdani claiming that this would be the work of Trump. And we'll explain why that doesn't make any sense at all in just a second.

Speaker 4 Let's go ahead and play 159.

Speaker 7 Incredibly concerning, and I think that it is an illustration of the attacks we're seeing on our democracy.

Speaker 7 Sometimes they're blatant and explicit in the manner of these bomb threats, and we have to understand this as part of the general approach the Trump administration has taken to trying to intimidate voters.

Speaker 4 So he says we have to understand this as part of the approach that the Trump administration has taken to try and intimidate voters. So, Jack,

Speaker 4 riddle me this. Are more conservatives or Democrats voting on Election Day?

Speaker 5 It is typically more conservative. So, it's going to be your Republicans, and then it's going to be your conservative independents.

Speaker 4 So, does it make any sense then that Trump would be responsible somehow for bomb threats on Election Day in New Jersey?

Speaker 5 No, and what you're seeing here is, of course, the guy who is the leading candidate to be the next mayor of New York City, immediately when given the opportunity, what does he do?

Speaker 5 He attacks and demonizes his political opponents. This is the same thing that we saw Jimmy Kimmel do, by the way, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder.

Speaker 5 He immediately said that it was a MAGA guy who did this. And so, what are we seeing again from, and again, we were told, oh,

Speaker 5 the left doesn't do this. The left doesn't demonize.
We need to unite. We need to do all of it.
Well, here you go.

Speaker 5 This guy, by the way, he is going to be, and if he wins, by the way, and I'm going to throw down the marker right now, if he wins the New York City's mayor race, he will be the Democrat frontrunner for 2028 for the presidential election.

Speaker 4 I agree.

Speaker 5 And immediately, immediately, what's he do? He demonizes his opponents and blames his opponents for political violence.

Speaker 5 When we don't have any facts whatsoever right now, we do know that there's been a lot of political violence lately done by the political left.

Speaker 5 We could ask Charlie about that, but of course, he's not here to join us and be able to have that discussion because of the political left. And so, by the way, we got these great,

Speaker 5 we got these great

Speaker 5 stickers, and I think we have this clip from, where is it? If you guys are going to pull it up, it's, oh, it's just a picture, 167

Speaker 5 that we have up. And

Speaker 5 people are posting these up across New Jersey right now. I voted to honor Charlie Kirk.
And in fact, because I was in New Jersey, I have a bunch of them right here. That's amazing.

Speaker 5 I voted to honor Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 5 And I have a couple.

Speaker 5 Don't use them yet.

Speaker 4 If you could zoom in here, these are phenomenal.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I love that. And we should vote to honor Charlie.
Charlie would be right here today saying, vote, vote, vote, vote, vote. Blake, do you agree with what Jack just said? That if

Speaker 4 Zoron wins today, especially if he wins handily in New York City,

Speaker 4 does he become the de facto frontrunner in the Democrat presidential race?

Speaker 4 Nah,

Speaker 4 he's. I think this is, truthfully, I think this is one of those things where it's a person on the left that, if anything, the right fixates on more than the left does.

Speaker 4 I think he's going to be a, especially because I don't think he'll be a very successful mayor of New York City. I think people do emphasize, they say he's going to make it way more dangerous.

Speaker 4 He might. He very well might, but I think he's much more likely to just ruin the economy of New York.
It's far easier for the left to just absolutely wreck. Yeah, but

Speaker 5 you can't say a guy who wins a massive upset like that doesn't get put into the contention for the Democrats for 2020.

Speaker 4 He could, but I mean,

Speaker 4 Bill de Blasio went nowhere.

Speaker 4 Bloomberg went nowhere. And he had a lot of people who

Speaker 4 ran for president. But

Speaker 4 he ran, and he had unlimited money to do it. And he's still completely flat.

Speaker 5 Bloomberg was not a populist.

Speaker 5 I'm talking about the specific brand of left-wing Marxist populism that Momdani is embracing. It's anti-white.
It's anti-Christian. He knows exactly what he's doing.
It's obviously anti-Trump.

Speaker 5 It's anti-it's sort of like he is the anti-Charlie Kirk because I was thinking about how Mondani and Charlie were were kind of about to be able to do it.

Speaker 4 Wait, also, he can't run, right? That is.

Speaker 5 He's a foreigner. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 5 Well, you watch. They're going to try to charge.
They might, they might.

Speaker 4 People have talked about that.

Speaker 4 That is a really good point, actually. He is fatal.
Actually, everyone in the world is an American citizen. That's why they're not going to be able to do that.

Speaker 4 Well, didn't you know that Children is more American and more patriotic than native-born Americans?

Speaker 4 I'm sure they're going to be in the world. So I'm told.
That's actually, thank goodness for that little provision in that.

Speaker 5 Well, and it's almost like the founders put it there for a reason.

Speaker 4 It's almost like they had an idea that if you were were born in America, you're going to be more loyal to America than if

Speaker 4 you weren't born in America.

Speaker 5 Wait, so loyalty matters?

Speaker 4 I don't want you to get too ahead of yourself. Okay, so listen, here's I'm going to go back.
We're going to have Rich Barris on

Speaker 4 later at the start of hour two. But one of the things we talked about with Rich is this focus on domestic issues.

Speaker 4 And you see this candidly, messaging discipline has been better from the Democrats, talking about costs, health care, things like that.

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Speaker 4 Dr. Oz, can you hear me?

Speaker 4 Are you seated? You ready?

Speaker 6 Seated, ready in my office actually in Washington. I'm anxious to see what you're going to see about the election.

Speaker 4 Yes, absolutely. Well, this has been a really, it's an honor to have you on.

Speaker 4 I know you came on the Charlie Kirk show multiple times with Charlie, both when you were running for Senate and then later on as you've been part of the admin.

Speaker 4 Charlie would be here. Unfortunately, if you can get the wide shot, we have his open chair here.

Speaker 4 Jack just did a beautiful tribute to Charlie that Charlie would be begging everybody across the country to vote, vote, vote, vote, vote in New Jersey, in Pennsylvania, in Virginia, in New York City.

Speaker 4 And unfortunately, he's not here today. So, sir, the floor is yours.
I know you had a personal friendship with Charlie. You texted often.

Speaker 4 And I just want to give you the opportunity to remember him in your own words.

Speaker 6 Well, kudos to you for carrying on the legacy. I spent a lot of time with Charlie.
He was very helpful. We got to know him quite well during the campaign.

Speaker 6 But we also stayed, I saw him the last time time here in Washington in June. We were going to do a show.

Speaker 6 We were at a meal together and

Speaker 6 the bombing of Iran happened. So we said, well, you know what, we'll do it in September.
And it speaks to the unfortunate reality that life is so unpredictable.

Speaker 6 I'm not going to take everyone through the trauma of that whole experience.

Speaker 6 Obviously, I joined the president when we flew out to the event in Phoenix, which was one of the top memorable moment in my life. And I've had lots of interesting experiences.

Speaker 6 But I think it speaks to the power that Charlie and the whole movement has had in waking people up to some of the dishonest narratives that we've been tricked with.

Speaker 6 But it sort of goes back, I think, very fundamentally to respecting some of those Judeo-Christian traditions that so often have guided us into successful relationships, raising wonderful families, living in communities that are functional.

Speaker 6 And when we don't honor some of those basic principles, we run into trouble. And on this election day, one of the many things that's being evaluated is what's called this government shutdown.

Speaker 6 And I thought I'd use this maybe as a jumping point to speak to those very values that Charlie and you and others would speak to. We are a nation that treasures work.

Speaker 6 We believe in our country that business is good and you want to work in business and you want to do good things for your community through those businesses and build value in society and do things that fix problems.

Speaker 6 All the things that

Speaker 6 many of us grew up, I think, believing was incumbent to

Speaker 6 opportunity as Americans.

Speaker 6 And many people came from other parts of the world because they know and found out that America actually still does those things that their country stopped doing, like go to work, play a role in improving society, have agency over your own life

Speaker 6 because it matters. God put you here to do something.
And whatever that thing is, go out and do it.

Speaker 6 So when we faced, as we came into the administration, a reality that Medicaid was basically insolvent because of some of the things that have been done during the pandemic, but some of the predated the pandemic as well.

Speaker 6 We had generated a system that just was not going to be

Speaker 6 functional for much longer that would put our most vulnerable at risk. I'm sitting in the Humphrey building in Washington, right across from the Capitol.

Speaker 6 As you walk into our building, there's a quote from Hubert Humphrey, and it says it's the,

Speaker 6 he uses light as a metaphor.

Speaker 6 It is the moral obligation of government, he says, moral obligation of all of us, to take care of those at the dawn of of life, children, those at the twilight of life, the seniors, and those who are living in the shadows.

Speaker 6 Now, again, that haunting metaphor is powerful.

Speaker 6 It feels almost biblical. So, if you're going to protect our most vulnerable, you can't allow fraud, waste, and abuse to strip it of its vitality.

Speaker 6 So, the president very directly told me to preserve, for example, Medicare, don't touch Medicare, don't hurt the folks who are vulnerable on Medicaid, but take the fraud, waste, and abuse out of the system.

Speaker 6 We have been doing that, and we're going to continue to do that.

Speaker 6 And the Democrats have shut down Washington, they shut the government down because they believe that the one big beautiful bill, which codified many of the things that make sense to clean up Medicaid and protect it for the most vulnerable, were wrong.

Speaker 6 They want to, for example, allow illegal immigrants to continue to get funded for their health care benefits. This fundamentally changes the equation.
Democrats don't like there's a work requirement.

Speaker 6 But we tell people, fine, if you're in a difficult spot, we'll pay for your health care. But you need to actually try to get a job.

Speaker 6 And if you can't get a job, go volunteer somewhere go take care of somebody go get an education do something to reinforce what you should know deep down inside which is god's got a plan for you and go act on it and these are fundamental differences in how folks are seeing the future of this country i believe because work is so fundamental to who we are that we should have a work requirement i believe that if you're an american citizen you should get support for your health care but illegal immigrants coming here and induced to stay here because they're given free health care that should not not be part of the equation.

Speaker 6 Certainly, the federal government should not be paying for that.

Speaker 6 And we know, for example, and just not to get into too much of the weeds here, that there are some states, there's six in the country, six out of 50 states, allow separate money to be paid to illegal immigrant health care from their state budgets.

Speaker 6 They claim. They claim.
And of course, that allows them to recruit and retain illegal immigrants, despite what federal law is around coming across borders illegally. And they think that's okay.

Speaker 6 And now we are just identifying, breaking news, I'll share it with you, that we believe is over a billion dollars that has been taken from federal tax money to support these programs.

Speaker 6 In fact, they're starting to pay us back, so I'm pretty sure we're right.

Speaker 4 Wow. Well,

Speaker 4 that's breaking news. So a billion dollars you've identified.
That's basically fraud. It's basically fraud that the states are using improperly.

Speaker 4 So I wanted to play a clip for you, and I do think it's election-related because, you know, there is some polling out there that would indicate that the American people want to focus more on domestic issues, more on costs, health care, things like that, as opposed to foreign issues, foreign policy.

Speaker 4 And I certainly share that belief.

Speaker 4 But one of the reasons that I think this resonates is because Democrats' messaging, and I hate to say it, but I think it's been a little bit more disciplined in this, especially this election run-up, than some of the Republican counterparts.

Speaker 4 They are talking about health care, and I wanted to play this clip for you from Rachel Maddow.

Speaker 4 And it's in relation to the government shutdown, where she's basically saying, well, if you strip these subsidies out of Obamacare, the ACA, then all these costs are going to go up for Americans, right?

Speaker 4 Now,

Speaker 4 Republicans have been warning about these subsidies for years that they're going to make Medicaid and Medicare insolvent in the long run.

Speaker 4 But I want you to give you a chance to respond to this and debunk this. 137.

Speaker 8 Look at these numbers from the New York Times tonight.

Speaker 8 Based on the newly posted information, meaning the pricing information that's now being posted in multiple states, a family of four making $130,000 in Maine.

Speaker 8 So you combine the family's income, everybody's salaries, you got up to $130,000. That family would face an increase in their annual health insurance premiums next year of $16,100.

Speaker 8 That's how much their health insurance premiums would go up. This is what Democrats have been drawing the line about in this shutdown, telling Republicans that this is the thing they need to fix.

Speaker 4 Dr. Oz, this is your world.

Speaker 4 Respond to Rachel Maddow, because that clip on Facebook, by the way, had like 100,000 likes. So if a lot of people are seeing it.

Speaker 6 So President Obama,

Speaker 6 who created the Affordable Care Act, right? It's called Obamacare,

Speaker 6 when he pushed through Congress in a very partisan way the Affordable Care Act, there was funding for people who are at the poverty level.

Speaker 6 The question then becomes, how do you define the poverty level? Well, they defined it as four times more than poverty.

Speaker 6 So if poverty level lets us make a number up, is $16,000, make it math simple, make it $20,000 of poverty level, then four times that for an individual, $80,000, is how much they were willing to cover.

Speaker 6 They weren't going to cover five, six, seven, eight times the poverty level. They just had to pick a number.
We all do.

Speaker 6 So Obamacare did not cover people who are making more than four times the poverty level.

Speaker 6 And for that reason, when they added these COVID benefits, and they were purely added because we were in a pandemic and a war, and they were added for a very short period of time, and they were set to end when the pandemic ended.

Speaker 6 Are we out of the pandemic? We're out of the pandemic. Of course.
We should not have pandemic era wartime rules when we're at peace. So the Democrats wrote the law.
It expires at the end of this year.

Speaker 6 And so it's their decision. They knew it was supposed to expire.
Original Obamacare never covered people making four times Medicare.

Speaker 6 Rachel Maddow just picked an example of someone who's making, whatever it was, $150,000 a year, who is making more than four times Medicare. Therefore, they were not ever eligible for Obamacare.

Speaker 6 And she's complaining that what was done during COVID as a stopgap measure to deal with the pandemic is not being expiring, so that's a problem for the Republicans.

Speaker 6 We were even willing, even willing, despite all that, to negotiate and talk about some of these issues, but only if we find a true solution to the fundamental flaws in a broken system.

Speaker 6 Obamacare pricing has increased so much faster than anyone ever imagined. It is becoming unaffordable even when the government is paying for it.
But that's not what the Democrats wanted.

Speaker 6 They want to hold us hostage. At the last moment they say, forget about it.

Speaker 6 If you don't, with a gun to your head, agree to extend all these subsidies and just pay, forget about dealing with the costs, just pay for it, we're going to hold you up.

Speaker 6 And the president, very wisely, very bravely, together with congressional leadership, said, no, we are not going to be extorted. You guys caused this problem.
It's your issue.

Speaker 6 We will help you fix it, but don't blame it on us. And yet,

Speaker 6 Legacy Media, New York Times, a good example. They tell stories that are literally like Aesop's fables without the morality.

Speaker 4 I think that's really well said. And sitting to my left is Blake Neff, one of our producers here on the show, Dr.
Oz. And one of the things you rail about, Blake, and we're running out of time here.

Speaker 4 I wish I could give you the floor, is that just when you get somebody addicted to a government subsidy, it's really

Speaker 4 permanent. It becomes permanent.
Everything becomes permanent. And that's what we've seen.
So the whole narrative that we're trying to strip health care from people.

Speaker 4 No, this is COVID-era spending that is unsustainable. We have to do something to bring it back.
Yeah, we want to make health care more affordable, but this is not the way to bankrupt the country.

Speaker 6 But if I can just jump in there, because I do think it's critical, what is the average amount, a premium that an Obamacare recipient will get next year after all these things that Rachel says are so horrible expire?

Speaker 6 It's going to be $50.

Speaker 6 That's it. It's $13 more than this year.
That's the whole battle. Literally, the

Speaker 6 average person is going to be asked to pay $50 fifty dollars for a month for their insurance you ask me anyone out there working on their own dime getting paid from a commercial insurer if would you take an insurance policy for 50 bucks a month that's thirteen dollars more than last year you'd say i can handle that that's a cup of coffee a day i can manage that yeah i mean i think that's really well said i mean listen at some point we have to say no We have to say no, and we have to reform some of these structural issues in our healthcare system that are driving up costs.

Speaker 4 But here, I mean, listen, that was the whole exchange with Obamacare. A bunch of people who couldn't afford it.
We were going to pay for it.

Speaker 4 Of course, that's going to make costs go up for everybody else. Okay.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 you can't wave a magic wand and make this stuff just disappear, but you cannot also bankrupt the whole of the U.S. government to keep subsidizing these runaway costs.
I mean, you just can't do it.

Speaker 4 I mean, we'd love to. We just can't do it.
Dr. Oz, great job.
Thank you so much for joining us. You honor us and you honor Charlie.
Thank you.

Speaker 6 God bless you.

Speaker 4 God bless you.

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Speaker 4 Blake, why don't you just riff on what we just talked about, Dr. Oz? Because, again, this is a domestic issue.
This election is going to be domestically

Speaker 4 decided on domestic issues. What's up, Jack?

Speaker 5 We do have breaking.

Speaker 5 Reagan National Airport has halted all flights after a bomb threat. Bomb threat.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the aircraft has been relocated to the east side of the airfield as a safety precaution.

Speaker 5 We don't know if this is connected to the stuff in Jersey, but yeah, more bomb threats.

Speaker 4 More bomb threats. But to my previous point, Blake, when you get addicted to the dole, you can't get them off.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, this is what we were warned about 100 years ago when you're expanding everything is, you know,

Speaker 4 once you are giving people free money, especially something they've done nothing to earn in any way, they very quickly become extremely entitled to it.

Speaker 4 And we've seen this transition across the board. I mean, we've seen it with the snap pause.

Speaker 4 There are people on snap who've never worked in 30 years, have not seriously tried to work, and it's an apocalyptic offense that they would ever be expected to do it, that they would ever be asked to do it.

Speaker 4 They adjust their spending, too. And they adjust their spending.

Speaker 4 I mean, if you look at Snap recipients, they spend more money on nice luxury foods than people who aren't on Snap.

Speaker 4 Okay, I want to play this clip really quick because we've got a lot of elections going on. But again,

Speaker 4 this is an election season that will be determined by domestic issues. Play Cut 55.

Speaker 10 The reason you have the standoff is because if the

Speaker 10 hundreds of billions of dollars

Speaker 10 to create a financial incentive to have this giant magnet to attract illegals from every part of Earth to

Speaker 10 these states, if that is turned off,

Speaker 10 the illegals will leave because they're no longer being paid to

Speaker 10 come to the United States and stay here.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 10 And then they will lose a lot of voters.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 this is why I played this clip. It's because this is a fundamental dynamic that you're seeing play out between left-wing messaging, right-wing messaging.
This is not about common sense or logic.

Speaker 4 It's about emotions. It's not ideology.
No, this is not ideology. This is about

Speaker 4 you're mean and you're trying to hurt people and take their health care away. And the Republicans are saying there's illegals on it.
We can't afford it.

Speaker 5 Well, and Blake,

Speaker 5 we definitely use that line. So Blake was on assignment yesterday, but he had given us this line in

Speaker 5 the group chat yesterday. We used it.

Speaker 4 The gimmicks.

Speaker 5 And it's just very clear. This is the gimmicks.

Speaker 5 And we realize that because we now have this massive, and in a place like New York City, which is the model, the Mondami model is what they want to expand across the entire country.

Speaker 4 The Mandami model explicitly is

Speaker 4 taxing white people so you can take their money and give it to resentful brown people for the resentful gimmicks. That is how he frames it.
No, but that is his framing. What's exactly how friends?

Speaker 4 I remember Charlie actually tweeted about that, and there was like a whole community note thing. It's like, no, that's not true.

Speaker 4 It's

Speaker 4 white people and richer neighborhoods. It wasn't just about, but it was like in his platform, his, his, his policy platform to say tax whiter and richer neighborhoods.

Speaker 4 I just want this piece of crap shipped back to Uganda so badly. Well, I mean,

Speaker 4 he's got his paperwork.

Speaker 5 There's this clip of Jay Jones saying that about the dog.

Speaker 4 I'm having the team.

Speaker 5 Have you seen this thing?

Speaker 5 He almost kicked a dog. Well, I mean, we know how he feels about children.

Speaker 4 No, this is interesting. Yeah.
Jay Jones just attempted to kick a dog outside a Virginia Virginia polling station.

Speaker 5 You're supposed to kiss babies and pet dogs when you're a politician.

Speaker 4 Like, what is he even doing?

Speaker 4 We have the clips. I don't know what he wants to do with babies.

Speaker 5 No, I'm saying that's what I'm saying. He's got

Speaker 5 the opposite take on both, apparently.

Speaker 4 But, like, you know, there's that

Speaker 4 great clip from Tim Cup. I like the movie Tin Cup.
It's Kevin Costner. It's a golf movie.
Charlie hated golf, but he and I disagreed on that. But there's this moment where he's talking about the...

Speaker 4 What's that? You a rom-com guy, Andrew? You big rom-com guy? I don't know if I'm a rom-com guy, but I like tin cup. So, check it out.
So,

Speaker 4 it's a golf movie. Anyway, it's a rom-com.
Basically, the villain in Tin Cup, like, they say he hates dogs. Only bad people hate dogs.

Speaker 5 But that's the Jack Nick. Good as it gets, too, right?

Speaker 4 All right, here it is.

Speaker 4 178.

Speaker 4 May he rest.

Speaker 4 May he rest, man.

Speaker 4 And may he wake up tonight when you get this swing.

Speaker 4 Say bye-bye.

Speaker 7 See you soon.

Speaker 5 For people

Speaker 5 on the audio side, I mean,

Speaker 5 he looks like he's about to kick the dog. He swings his...
I mean, Blake, what's your take? You're always like, Mr. Skeptic.
What's your take on this? That was a weird

Speaker 4 taxi kick, but it's just a weird thing to do. It's just,

Speaker 4 you know.

Speaker 5 It's a voter's dog. It's not his dog.

Speaker 4 And he wanted to pet it with his foot.

Speaker 4 Sounds like something that would make sense to him.

Speaker 5 He wanted to pet it with his patent shoes.

Speaker 4 He was his patent leather shoes.

Speaker 4 Rub his shoe on it or something.

Speaker 4 Okay, but the guy fetishizes about murdering his political opponents and their kids. It's the only way to change people's views, he says.
It's the only way to change people's views.

Speaker 5 They have to debate them.

Speaker 5 They must feel pain before they change their views.

Speaker 4 And by the way, guess what Charlie's killer said about him? Some hate you just can't negotiate.

Speaker 5 Some hate you can't negotiate out.

Speaker 4 Sounds weirdly similar. And then here's Jay Jones, who's campaigning to be the top cop in Virginia, the Commonwealth, and he just randomly

Speaker 4 instinctively tries to kick a dog.

Speaker 5 Very strange. Almost like when people show you who they are, we should believe them.

Speaker 4 You should believe them. Look at that.
That is the image.

Speaker 7 That's a kick. That's a kick.
That's a kick.

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