Can Zohran Mamdani Be Stopped?

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We need more.

Speaker 3 The trend is not our friend.

Speaker 3 We're going to need, Jack, you know what we're going to need in a lot of these races? We're going to need a top of the ninth, one-out

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Speaker 3 Are are you referencing anything right now? We're going to need a miracle

Speaker 3 to save

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Speaker 3 Maybe an 11th thing. Well, there was a couple miracles that happened.

Speaker 5 Andrew's a big Dodgers fan, folks. And this was a big weekend for him, a big weekend for America.

Speaker 3 They call it paycheck baseball. I call it having more heart than the other guys.
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They're not going to lie, especially in baseball. But, you know, we just just have to celebrate it.

Speaker 3 I mean, listen, I said in honor of Charlie, he was a big Cubs fan, that if the Cubs

Speaker 3 were, if the Cubs had advanced to the NLCS, I would have pulled for the Cubbies. I really would have.
But unfortunately, they lost to the Brewers, the Milwaukee Brewers,

Speaker 3 and then it was, you know, the Dodgers end up sweeping the Brewers. And then it was America versus Canada.
This is the only paradigm anybody needs to look at this through.

Speaker 3 And yeah, it was Halloween this weekend. There's a lot of news.
There's a lot of things we're gonna get to, but but but we have to start

Speaker 5 Don't forget the hat that Blake Tranan was wearing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Blake Trinan

Speaker 3 He's a great American good Christian man, and he wore the Charlie Kirk hat, and guess what? He actually threw that to Rob McCoy, I guess, at some game. You serious?

Speaker 3 Yeah, he threw his hat that he was wearing. So this was the guy.

Speaker 5 He wore the hat that had Charlie Kirk on it after Charlie, after Charlie was murdered. He wore the hat, and by the way, was criticized for that.
Of course he was.

Speaker 5 He was criticized, took a lot of crap for it, and then goes on to win the World Series. Just saying.

Speaker 3 Just saying. Just saying.
Let's go ahead and play cut. I just have to do this.
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Speaker 1 Here's the O2 pitch.

Speaker 3 Bounces one. Up the middle.
Bets to the back. Over to fence to beat the champ.
You gotta knock him out.

Speaker 3 The Dodgers stand tall and win back-to-back titles.

Speaker 3 So, our audience is probably currently revolting against me, but that's okay. Hey, by the way, Americans won.

Speaker 5 I called Andrew like five minutes after that just to kind of check in with him.

Speaker 5 And I'm not even sure what if exactly what came out of his mouth was like words it was more just emotions it was like oh dude well my I let my kids watch my children my children

Speaker 3 the kids are freaking out like we were having a great time honestly thinking about my grandfather anybody that's tempted to root against the Dodgers I want you to remember that you're rooting for Canada okay that's all I want to say wow yeah so a traitor basically yeah basically basically yeah to America right Ryan's got other thoughts one of our our team members it's fine all right um

Speaker 5 Look, the Dodgers beat my Phillies,

Speaker 5 and I said, what did I say to you? I said, they're going to go all the way, and I'm going to root for them because there's no shame in being beaten by the best.

Speaker 3 Yep, they are. And by the way, they're already favored for next year.
I understand if you're not... There's Blake Trinan's hat, Charlie Kirk.
There's the hat.

Speaker 3 I understand if you'd resent the Dodgers because they do have more. I mean, listen, they revenued over a billion dollars this year.
So, like,

Speaker 3 you know, and Charlie was a big fan of the salary cap. Listen, if that happens, obviously it's going to change the calculus of how the Dodgers do things.

Speaker 3 But I mean, they've got like a top-rated farm system still, even after trading away a lot of their best people, you know, to acquire some of the top-end talent, they still have the best farm system, and they still have the best international development system and the scouting system.

Speaker 3 So it's like, listen, you know, it's the Matthew principle. Those who have will have more.
Those who have little, even the little they have will be taken.

Speaker 3 That's honestly, that's sometimes the way things work. It's a dynasty, folks, and I'm going to celebrate it.
Anyways, so, Jack, over the weekend, there were two big interviews that happened.

Speaker 3 Plus, we've got New New Jersey, we've got Virginia, we've got PA. There's big races in PA.

Speaker 5 Voting no in Pennsylvania. No, no, no.

Speaker 3 Three judges. Three radical communist judges.
Did you think it's a 10-year term?

Speaker 5 It's a 10-year term, but there's automatic, what we call retention races. So

Speaker 5 they have to go up for retention every 10 years to say, will you be retained or not? And so

Speaker 5 what we're hoping is that people will say no, no, no. And President Trump, huge true true social yesterday, all about this.

Speaker 3 Yep, yep. And so, yeah, to that point, let's see here.
He said, attention, Pennsylvania. I'll try and get this in the chat so we have a visual of it.
Attention, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 On November 4th, you can bring back the rule of law and stand up for the Constitution. There are three Radical Democrat Supreme Court justices on the ballot for a 10-year retention.

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Speaker 3 These activist judges unlawfully gerrymanded your congressional maps, which led to my corrupt impeachments and locked you up during COVID by closing your small businesses, schools, and churches.

Speaker 3 They let sex offenders out of prison and ruled for sleepy Joe Biden over and over and interfered in the 2020 election. It is time for justice.
Vote no, no, no on retention of these woke judges.

Speaker 3 I couldn't agree more. I just wanted to bring that up because we haven't talked about it a ton, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court justices.

Speaker 3 But, Jack, you were in New Jersey this weekend campaigning for Chitter Rally. Tell us about that.
We got some.

Speaker 5 We were there yesterday with the great Turning Point Action Team, first time ever Turning Point Action deployment to New Jersey. And people have to understand, right?

Speaker 5 So just to put the context on all of this. These are not supposed to be competitive races.

Speaker 5 The off-year gubernatorial elections in Virginia and New Jersey, the same year after one party wins, the White House, the Senate, and the Congress are supposed to always go to the other party.

Speaker 5 That is always the trend. These are not supposed to be competitive elections.

Speaker 5 These are supposed to be, so if a Republican wins the White House, it's supposed to be a shoe-in for the Democrats in the next year because this is a bellwether.

Speaker 5 It's usually seen as the first check against an admin in power. By the way, after Obama, this is how we got Christie in New Jersey back in 2009.
So that was that

Speaker 5 dynamic playing out. And so what we're seeing here now in New Jersey is a potential attempt to buck that trend.
And that's why turning point action is going in in New Jersey. We're seeing these races.

Speaker 5 Atlas Intel came in late in the week last week. This was the number one pollster, A,

Speaker 5 and said it's a one-point race. And so we had turning point action in there.
And by the way,

Speaker 5 the Orthodox Jewish community of Lakewood, New Jersey came out in absolute droves. Now, yesterday was the last day of early voting in New Jersey.

Speaker 5 However, the Orthodox Jewish community wasn't voting on Saturday because of Shabbos. So what did they do? They slammed and barnstormed what you're looking at right now.

Speaker 5 And for folks who are listening, there is a drone shot. You needed a drone shot to be able to cover the lines in Lakewood, Lakewood, New Jersey, because so many people were out there voting.

Speaker 5 And then because it was on the same day, they were leaving Lakewood at the polls and then coming over to the Turning Point Action Rally where we had food and we had, and yes, I did. I did bring Wawa.

Speaker 5 Everyone there.

Speaker 3 Everyone.

Speaker 3 How close is this to New York City, that image we were looking at?

Speaker 3 Lakewood.

Speaker 5 Lakewood? It'd be about an hour drive.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's an hour drive. Okay.
So the Orthodox community is still that large in

Speaker 3 that part of the state.

Speaker 3 I just don't know Jersey that well, candidly.

Speaker 5 I mean, New Jersey is not that big to begin with.

Speaker 3 Well, totally.

Speaker 3 Anyway, so

Speaker 3 that's huge. Good for the Orthodox Jewish community coming out.
I saw Scott Pressler was out there

Speaker 3 registering voters, getting them out to the private sector.

Speaker 5 We had Cliff Maloney. We had the early vote action.
We had the NJ Chase. So the PA Chase has now become the NJ Chase.
They're out there. They're knocking on doors.

Speaker 5 And Turning Point Action, the incredible team, Noah from Micah, Brandon Malley, and a whole bunch of actually

Speaker 5 new hires and new acquirers. The Northeastern Pen or the Northeastern nuts, so it's Pennsylvania, New Jersey up is really exploding and expanding for turning point action.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we uh and by the way, I think this Zoron backlash to in New York because you're so close to it, it plays into it plays into it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, by the way, that race is tightening, and we should talk about that as well.

Speaker 3 But the yeah, Zoron is losing a little bit of his luster, still probably too far ahead to pull it off, but we can hope. Listen, we can hope

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Speaker 3 We are going to keep the news coming. Let's go ahead and play Cup 44.
This is Trump on Momdani or Cuomo.

Speaker 6 What if Mondami becomes mayor?

Speaker 7 It's going to be hard for me as the president to give a lot of money to New York

Speaker 7 because if you have a communist running New York, all you're doing is wasting the money you're sending there. So I don't know that he's one and I'm not a fan of Cuomo one way or the other.

Speaker 7 But if it's going to be between a bad Democrat and a communist, I'm going to pick that bad Democrat all the time, to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 So, Jack, there's been a debate about what to do for Sli-Wa voters in New York City.

Speaker 3 Cernovich, who's a friend of ours, is very, very adamant that it should not be Saliwa's job to drop out of the race

Speaker 3 on Cuomo's behalf or for the, you know, for Team Sanity's behalf. What's your take on that?

Speaker 5 Well, I get where Mike's coming from in the sense that it's Democrats that ran New York into the ground, right? Giuliani was a great Republican.

Speaker 5 Bloomberg came in initially as a Republican, then as an Independent, and then de Blasio comes in, and you've had this slew of Democrats and then Adams, and now we'll see what what we get, probably a communist coming up here tomorrow.

Speaker 5 So the fact that why should Republicans get the blame for Democrats running America's greatest city into the ground? I totally get that.

Speaker 5 From a political standpoint, though, I can also see the other side of the argument saying that, look, the entire city has been terraformed by demographics.

Speaker 5 And for all the people who say, oh, 9-11, never, you know, never forget what happened and never forget. The people that are voting for Zora Mamdani either, number one, weren't Americans on 9-11.

Speaker 5 Zora Mamdani wasn't even an American citizen when Donald Trump was first elected to office.

Speaker 3 They don't have anything to remember in the first place.

Speaker 5 There's nothing to remember. Or they're so young that it's like something they saw on YouTube, but they don't really have any direct memory of what it was like.
So, you know,

Speaker 5 what you've really got going on now is this sort of...

Speaker 5 This sort of dichotomy between the new New Yorkers and the old New Yorkers. And Donald Trump is an old New Yorker.

Speaker 5 He remembers the Cuomo family when it was Mario Cuomo, when New York was the kind that had Mario Cuomo was in office, right, as governor. And Curtis Lewa was out there doing what?

Speaker 5 Keeping the subways safe. And this was the era of Bernie Goetz.
This was the era when crime and murder was so bad. This is the pre-Giuliani era.
That's what the Guardian Angels were all about.

Speaker 5 And that's what Curtis was all about. So Mom Donnie comes in, and this is an entirely new version of New York that's trying to fight old New York.

Speaker 3 Check out throw up image 96. This is foreign-born population.
So the 62%

Speaker 3 of his support comes from foreign-born.

Speaker 3 And it's as simple as that.

Speaker 5 If you import the third world, you will get a guy coming in like Zora Mondani that eats rice with his hands. Eats rice with his hands, eats disgusting slop with his hands.
And by the way, turns around

Speaker 5 and you can go on his Twitter account and find all of his anti-white tweets. And I don't mean from like years and years ago.
I mean like from months ago.

Speaker 3 This guy hates America. He hates what he thinks is European capitalist

Speaker 3 white culture. He wants to,

Speaker 3 I mean, he guilt-tripped Cuomo for not visiting a mosque or not being able to name one. I mean, that shouldn't be happening in America.

Speaker 3 You shouldn't have to sort of go pander to the Muslim minority of your city. I mean, what are the six, 700,000 Muslims now in New York City? This is like.

Speaker 5 And now it's part of like the voting base of the city. Yeah, totally.

Speaker 3 Throw up image 95. This is real clear politics.

Speaker 3 This is a polling average has momdani up 14.7 however you mentioned atlas intel i wanted to throw this up so this is a poll from the last five days of october so it's pretty recent it has a very very tight race and what's frustrating is that we've seen in the polling where if cuomo and sleewa would have consolidated their support they would have beat him and then it he then it looked like momdani was just so far ahead they couldn't even beat him well this one shows that cuomo is at 34 percent he's only he's only seven points behind momdani already, and Slee was at 24.

Speaker 3 If they combined, they would absolutely beat him.

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Speaker 3 All right, so I want to get to this Trump 60 Minutes interview. I personally feel like it's not getting enough play online, and there was some really important

Speaker 3 pieces of information that were shared on

Speaker 3 this interview with Nora O'Donnell,

Speaker 3 a really interesting gal. So, here's the deal: so, you want to get into this Venezuela stuff.
You're hot on this Venezuela story because it does seem

Speaker 3 a little bit of context here.

Speaker 3 A little bit of context here.

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 Marco Rubio came out and said we are not invading Venezuela. It was fake news.
There was a Miami Herald article that basically said that we were preparing to invade Venezuela.

Speaker 3 There is a warship just off the coast of Venezuela.

Speaker 5 There's a whole naval flotilla.

Speaker 3 Flotilla. So

Speaker 3 there's obviously been multiple strikes on these drug boats that apparently have narco-traffickers on.

Speaker 3 I totally support it, by the way. We should have been doing it years ago, but most people don't because they have no courage.

Speaker 5 Some of which, by the way, are semi-submars. They're like submarines, basically.
Really? Yeah, they're like, oh, and they'll say it's just a fishing boat. No, it's a submarine.

Speaker 5 They use these semi-submersibles to try to evade.

Speaker 3 So, Nora O'Donnell asked two interesting questions.

Speaker 3 One would lead you to think that we are going to war or something. And then the next, he kind of brings it back to no, we're not.
So let's discuss this. Let's play CUP 43 first.

Speaker 6 Are Maduro's days as president numbered?

Speaker 7 I would say, yeah, I think so, yeah.

Speaker 6 And this issue of potential land strikes in Venezuela, is that true?

Speaker 7 I don't tell you that. I mean, I'm not saying it's true or untrue, but I, you know, I wouldn't

Speaker 7 be inclined to say that I would do that, but Because I don't talk to a reporter about whether or not I'm going to strike.

Speaker 3 I love that he does that, by the way. He always says, we'll see what happens.
He's not going to show his cards to some reporter on 16 Minutes. You can ask 15 times if you want to.

Speaker 3 He's not going to do it. But then she straight up asks, are we going to war against Venezuela? Play Cup 45.

Speaker 1 Are we going to war against Venezuela?

Speaker 7 I doubt it. I don't think so, but they've been treating us very badly, not only on drugs.

Speaker 7 They've dumped hundreds of thousands of people into our country that we didn't want. People from prisons, they emptied their prisons into our country.

Speaker 7 They also, if you take a look, they emptied their mental institutions and their insane asylums into the United States of America because Joe Biden was the worst president in the history of our country.

Speaker 3 All right, so Jack,

Speaker 3 this is a big issue that you've been focusing on. So

Speaker 3 why does it feel like he's kind of saying both things here?

Speaker 5 Well, so, I mean, look, when you look at the naval force that we've assembled in the Caribbean, this is quite substantial. And there was basically this

Speaker 5 operational area declared around Puerto Rico.

Speaker 5 So, military exclusion zone for military operations that was declared, saying that, hey, there's a potentiality for operations here that could be coming up.

Speaker 5 And you've got an entire, again, this naval flotilla that's there, multiple destroyers, you've got an amphibious assault craft.

Speaker 5 So, you've got, which has an entire Marine expeditionary unit on it, not big enough to, you know, launch an invasion or something like that, but you know, a

Speaker 5 sizable complement of Marines as well as drones, as fighters, and the potential for U.S. special forces.
There's been this story running around that the U.S.

Speaker 5 has signed off on covert operations within Venezuela. Hopefully those are targeting the cartel leaders, which we love.
I'd love to see those in Mexico as well, by the way.

Speaker 5 And Coast Guard fast attack ships all throughout the area.

Speaker 5 So does this mean then that there's going to be, you know, people are saying that, look, we've seen a lot of, and you get a lot of this in Florida, right?

Speaker 5 There's a lot of people who have come from Venezuela, come from Cuba, they've gone to Florida.

Speaker 3 So many.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 this is a huge issue down there. So for the rest of the country, we're thinking, like, why is all of a sudden this pops up?

Speaker 5 But you go down to these pockets of Florida and they will, and hundreds of thousands of people, by the way, and they really, really want to get rid of Maduro, really want to, really want to get rid of the regime in Havana.

Speaker 5 And so that is something that, you know, obviously it comes up a lot during election time. It comes up a lot during these election years where they say, hey, we've got when Castro was around, right?

Speaker 5 You know, we got to get rid of Castro, et cetera, et cetera. And then the U.S.
tried with obviously no

Speaker 5 negative effect, shall we say. Here's an interesting piece of this, though.
So Maduro and Sagar and Jetty has come out and he and Charlie were good friends.

Speaker 5 And he's been doing a lot of reporting on this.

Speaker 5 And a piece that came out on his Twitter that he put up, and because Trump had said something about, oh, well, you know, Venezuela is invading the United States, and they certainly were during under the Obama administration, and that's absolutely something that was going on.

Speaker 5 However, here's what Sager pointed out. A side story that I found in my reporting, Maduro has been irked to

Speaker 5 interlocutors of these diplomats that the claim that he invaded the United States, telling America you funded your own invasion. And he points out that it turns out that the U.S.

Speaker 5 government actually did fund a large ad campaign for Venezuelan migrants in 2023 to a large Colombian newspaper.

Speaker 3 Well, and people have to appreciate there is, you know, the diaspora of Venezuelans in the last couple of decades. Colombia is full of them.
Right, exactly.

Speaker 3 So by advertising in Colombia, you're advertising to Venezuelans like Colin.

Speaker 3 If you're a refugee in Colombia, if you will, come to America.

Speaker 5 And we saw all this going on during the Biden years.

Speaker 5 These were the caravans that were coming up to Mexico.

Speaker 5 And we kept asking, where's the money for all this coming from? Well, it turns out it was coming from the U.S. taxpayers that

Speaker 5 USAID had a contract beginning in September 2023 and ending in July 2024 with Colombian newspaper El Pais, whose purpose was to, quote, disseminate a new narrative about the Venezuelan migrant population.

Speaker 5 The grant required the paper to document and make visible success stories of migrants accessing the formal market using formats and media regularly consulted by business groups.

Speaker 5 So basically, we paid for advertising. We, when I say we, I mean the Biden administration and Mayorkis, by the way, who, and Blake had that great tweet about him.

Speaker 5 He said, this guy, you know, I'm not sure if we can bring him up on criminal charges, but he's a traitor. Totally.

Speaker 5 Just someone who totally facilitated the whole-scale invasion of the United States, and they used taxpayer money. They ran it through U.S.
AID.

Speaker 5 And yes, they were telling Venezuelans come to the United States. So

Speaker 5 Maduro's got an interesting point here where he says, wait a minute, your government told them to come.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, it's an interesting point.

Speaker 3 But I do think it's interesting.

Speaker 3 By the way, just to put a pin on, like a

Speaker 3 wrap a bow around what you're saying, I mean, Majorkis, 100% a traitor. The fact that there's not a law that we can lock him up on or may not be a law, we'll see.

Speaker 3 I think it's worth exploring the extent to which the law is capable of

Speaker 3 putting him in prison.

Speaker 3 The fact that there's not, though, is really highly concerning, and there should be one because the guy facilitated, probably on behest of the Biden administration.

Speaker 3 Who knows if it was even Joe Biden, by the way. It was probably just some of the woke staffers that he surrounded himself with.
But yeah, he facilitated the large-scale invasion of the United States.

Speaker 3 Now, there's a lot of really good Venezuelan people, and there's a lot of thugs. I mean, there's a ton, a ton of gang activity.

Speaker 3 When a country falls into disrepair, like Venezuela has fallen, the whole country becomes corrupt and dangerous and violent, and it ends up being run by essentially warlords.

Speaker 5 And this is where Trende Aragua came from.

Speaker 3 Of course.

Speaker 3 But what's interesting is that Trump also says he thinks his days are numbered. Maduro's.
And

Speaker 3 so the question you might then have is, well, if we're not going to invade, how do you get rid of Maduro?

Speaker 3 Well, there's a lot of reporting that would suggest that Maduro is willing to take any sort of deal to sort of flee into exile, if you will. He might take money.

Speaker 3 He might take assurances of his own safety. The guy just might be tapping out.
I mean, if you ratchet up the pressure and you put this whole flotilla off his coast and you start

Speaker 3 tightening the screws, you can get a guy like Maduro out if you want. I'm not saying we should.

Speaker 3 I'm just saying it's very interesting that President Trump is saying, I don't think we're going to be invading.

Speaker 5 Well, let me play devil's advocate then because we've seen situations like this as well, where we played the regime change game.

Speaker 5 And as you talk about Iraq, you talk about even Vietnam in the past where we tried to do this. Libya, Libya, you'd go down the list of Syria, et cetera.
And so if Maduro leaves,

Speaker 5 who's then going to stop Trende Aragua from just taking over the entire country?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, I guess

Speaker 3 the hope would be that the opposition candidate that just got the Nobel Peace Prize would be the one. But, you know, who knows, Jack? Who knows?

Speaker 3 I am basically

Speaker 3 anti-regime change.

Speaker 5 You can push one of these things. 90, like 90.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's going to be great. It's going to be great.

Speaker 5 And then suddenly it's like,

Speaker 3 everything blows up. I totally agree.

Speaker 3 And, I mean, listen, you know, you and I talked about this last week, but Rich Barris had that polling that came out that the American people are basically fed up talking about foreign things. Yes.

Speaker 3 Foreign policy is, we are exhausted by it. And I don't want it to come off that President Trump was only talking about that.

Speaker 3 We are obviously in the midst of a government shutdown. I think we're, what, 33 days into a shutdown? President Trump talked about that as well.
Let's play 46.

Speaker 7 I'm not going to do it by extortion. I'm not going to do it by being extorted by the Democrats who have lost their way.

Speaker 7 There's something wrong with these people.

Speaker 3 So then, what happens on the other side of the city? Schumer is a picture of the city.

Speaker 7 Schumer is a basket case, and he has nothing to lose. He's become, I just left Japan.
He's become a kamikaze pilot.

Speaker 6 Sounds like it's not going going to get solved, the shutdown.

Speaker 7 It's going to get solved. Yeah.
Oh, it's going to get solved. How? We'll get it so eventually they're going to have to vote.

Speaker 6 You're saying the Democrats will capitulate.

Speaker 7 I think they have to. And if they don't vote, that's their problem.

Speaker 3 Well, kamikaze. Kamikaze.
Well, Chuck Schumer is kind of like, he's become

Speaker 3 a clown, really, of modern politics because he's so feckless and he's so controlled by the left-wing flank of his party, the AOC.

Speaker 3 He's done. And if AOC ran against him tomorrow, she'd win.

Speaker 5 Yeah, she would. And she knows that, too.

Speaker 5 He knows you would be against her. He knows that.
So it's either he goes along with everything they want or they will primary him and he's out.

Speaker 5 By the way, I don't know if we mentioned, but the breaking news about Nancy Pelosi talking about the old guard leaving.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, we've heard this a few times. I remain a little bit skeptical.

Speaker 3 She's expected to make the announcement tomorrow, which we'll see. News Max is reporting it.
So if the reporting's wrong, we'll see. But, you know,

Speaker 3 I don't know.

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Speaker 3 you know, one holdout. I mean, there's a few holds out in Congress, but Schumer is one of the holdouts that has not endorsed him.

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Speaker 3 I want to get to this clip again. I just, I want to do, I think we're going to transition to Elon Musk and some clips, and maybe we'll get to those in an hour or two.

Speaker 3 But this is really pertinent to what we've been dealing with lately, Jack, and

Speaker 3 the dehumanization of conservatives. Play Cup 47.

Speaker 7 A lot of the rhetoric, look, they call me a Nazi all the time. I'm not a Nazi.
I'm the opposite. I'm somebody that's saving our country.
But they call me Nazi.

Speaker 7 And the press is largely responsible for it. The fake news, what they've done, I think one of the greatest terms I've ever come up with is fake news.
What they've done to our country is very bad.

Speaker 7 They have to change around. Now, nobody believes the fake news.
Nobody believes them.

Speaker 3 I mean, yeah, the dehumanizing rhetoric, Nazi, fascist, bigot, racist, xenophobe, homophobe, whatever kind of pho they do.

Speaker 3 And Trump's absolutely right for calling it fake news because there's a lot of it in the Democrat Party establishment media.

Speaker 5 Almost like hey, fascist catch.

Speaker 3 Yeah, almost like Bella Chow. All right, so we're talking about the shutdown.
We're in day 33. I really still don't feel it.

Speaker 3 I did, I experienced a little bit of it with some air traffic controllers delaying one flight that I had to catch. Seriously? Yeah, we ended up,

Speaker 3 I ended up catching like a later flight, about an hour, hour and a half delayed. But it is like little by little starting to percolate.
It's going to pile up.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and it's going to pile up, especially with November 15th. That's going to be the big cutoff date.
So I would not expect any movement on this till then. Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 5 Are you telling me that the air traffic controllers part of the shutdown is going to happen right before Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 That's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 5 The largest, the single one.

Speaker 3 Well, that one actually might start happening sooner than that, but that's when the November 15th is when the military is not going to get their paycheck.

Speaker 5 So the military is going to get the paycheck. The air traffic controllers go down right before Thanksgiving.
Okay, that I could see that being an issue.

Speaker 5 And that's why Sean Duffy's been out talking about it.

Speaker 3 A thousand percent. So here, but here's Elon Musk.
He went on with Joe Rogan for like a three-hour conversation. It was a real long one.

Speaker 3 I still haven't gotten all the way through it, but I found it amazing and fascinating.

Speaker 3 So let's go ahead and play.

Speaker 3 This is Elon Musk chiming in why Democrats do not want to end the shutdown and why, actually, why they are digging their heels in about making sure that illegal immigrants that are under temporary protected status or whatever classification that Joe Biden just was given out like candy at Halloween when he was president is really the deep motivator here for the Democrat Party.

Speaker 3 Play cut 55. The reason you have this standoff is because if the hundreds of hundreds of billions of dollars

Speaker 3 to create a financial incentive to have this giant magnet to attract illegals from every part of Earth to

Speaker 3 these states. If that is turned off,

Speaker 3 the illegals will leave because they're no longer being paid to come to the United States and stay here.

Speaker 7 Wow.

Speaker 3 And then they will lose a lot of voters. I just love that Joe Rogan reaction.
Wow. Wow.

Speaker 5 It's like you've never heard of this before.

Speaker 3 You have to kind of remember this. As many people as Joe Rogan talks to, he just like doesn't hear kind of basic kind of, I mean, maybe you think that's cynical.
That's not cynical. It's just obvious.

Speaker 3 If you've been living on this side of the aisle and doing what we do for as long as we have, that's just obvious math. That's just connecting two dots that are so obvious.

Speaker 3 But then you realize when Elon goes into a setting like that and Joe Rogan's mind is blown, you're like, oh, so much of the country still doesn't get. the obvious truth right in front of their eyes.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and if anything,

Speaker 5 if there's a silver lining at all to New York City falling to this foreign-born communist, this is- Don't do the George Will thing.

Speaker 3 Don't do the George Will thing.

Speaker 5 No, it's not, but it's just when you see a guy who's just obviously anti-white, obviously is going to create a he's campaigning on a two-tiered system of justice, whereby if you are affluent, if you're seen as someone who is successful, if you're upper-middle class,

Speaker 5 if you're a white Christian or a male, right?

Speaker 5 You're straight. You know, you're straight, right? Then you, he was campaigning at gay bars this weekend

Speaker 3 at like 1 a.m.

Speaker 5 in the morning. Yeah, I mean, he knows where his voters are, right?

Speaker 5 And so he is going to basically declare open season on you. And it's, I think Blake said it in the chat over the weekend.
His voting base are the gimmigrants. The gimmicks.
The gimmigrants.

Speaker 3 The gimmicks.

Speaker 5 So we're going to take from you and give to you. This is the essence of all.

Speaker 3 We were not born here.

Speaker 3 We did not build this country, but we're going to move here and then we're going to use the left-wing strategy of grievance politics to make you the the villain in this whole story.

Speaker 3 Even though you did nothing wrong, you were just born here, working your job, raising your children. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 These people came and now you have to take care of them because we have a stupid government

Speaker 3 in our immigration program. Our immigration system is completely jacked.

Speaker 5 And Elon's pointing out that this is a use case that they want to then expand and franchise out to the rest of the country.

Speaker 3 A thousand percent. Well, you know, it reminds me of something Elon Musk said, I think, on his last Joe Rogan interview, where he basically said why he bought Twitter.

Speaker 3 And there's, you know, he probably bought it for multiple reasons, but he realized that there was an ideology that normally would have stayed totally cordoned off in San Francisco that was getting piped to the rest of the world through X and Twitter.

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