Food Stamp Stoppage + Trump’s Polling Vulnerability?

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Speaker 3 it is and and you have a high high paced fast frequency or whatever what a high frequency fast paced yeah whatever the order is job as well I mean Alex is here you know doing stories for Breitbart literally while we're while we're doing the show but it's good it's good show prep so so this is a flashback because I've been in the captain's chair hosting for the shows I've been on for the last I don't know I guess six or seven years but before then I had another five or six years where I was in the co-pilot seat with Steve Bannon.

Speaker 4 He called me the wingman, hosting Breitbart News Daily. And he would host, and I would maybe get in 15 to 20 good minutes of a three-hour show where I was actually a part of the show.

Speaker 4 And the rest of the time, I was just doing my job. And he was just sitting.

Speaker 4 And it comforted him to watch me type and assign stories while I was in his presence.

Speaker 3 And you get to do this all over again now, Alex, because I actually saw you do it yesterday. I was like, I know he's working on stories.
This is a good show prep, though.

Speaker 3 And of course, Blake Neff, our not-so-secret weapon here. So here's what's funny.
I have to give Blake a little shout-out yesterday because you predicted Zoron's Mom Donnie's, his response to this.

Speaker 3 My aunt faced all of this.

Speaker 3 Wearing a job

Speaker 3 made

Speaker 5 Zoron Mom Dani's aunt feel uncomfortable on the subway. It was basically the worst atrocity in American history.
It was worse than slavery, worse than

Speaker 3 the almost 3,000 people that lost their lives on 9-11. The worst atrocity.

Speaker 4 I got to tell you guys, I had a sort of a nightmare last night. I was in a bus and I was about to get hit by a giant wave.
This is probably something, someone can psychoanalyze this.

Speaker 4 My whole family was in the car, all my children. And then I woke up and I thought, wow, I'm just like Zoron Mamdani's aunt.

Speaker 4 In the bus. Like, that was the real thing.

Speaker 3 You were taking public transportation and you, yeah, you should run for mayor.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I've got my whole narrative now.

Speaker 3 So, so that, so Zoron is now saying, wait, wait, wait. It wasn't my aunt.
It was actually just a distant cousin. But, like, the point still stands.
Play cut 145.

Speaker 2 I was speaking about my aunt.

Speaker 3 I was speaking about Zana Fui, my father's cousin,

Speaker 3 who sadly passed away a few years ago.

Speaker 3 Oh, so he's dead.

Speaker 5 We can't even check.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we can't fact check. Maybe she was killed by...

Speaker 5 Like, the hatred broke her heart.

Speaker 3 Yeah, maybe it was Daniel Penny on the public transportation

Speaker 3 or something. It must must have been some mean white man.

Speaker 4 You know, there's a serious way to do the segment where we just spend the next half an hour reading all the names of all the people who died in 9-11.

Speaker 4 And then Zoron thinks the real victim is a fake aunt who is really sort of a cousin. He's not even totally sure, but I didn't follow that description completely.

Speaker 4 And it just shows you the obscene nature of the dishonesty of the campaign.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 it's absurd. But here's, we're going to get to this later in the hour.
We're actually going to have Rich Barris on. I saw the segment Rich did with Steve Bannon.
People were passing around.

Speaker 3 I was like, I called Rich immediately. I was like, Rich, we need to do this.
I wasn't planning on doing this today, but we need to do this. It is the key.

Speaker 3 And this is what I think, you know, we could mock Zoron Mamdani all we want. And goodness gracious, does he deserve it? But the truth is, is that he has been doing one thing very, very well.

Speaker 3 And it's a lesson for all of us conservatives that support Trump, that support MAGA, that support conservative populism, all of these things, is that Zoron is focusing on domestic issues.

Speaker 3 The American people are sick of foreign exploits, foreign adventurism.

Speaker 3 They're sick of anything that takes their eyes off of the prize, which is domestic peace and tranquility and thriving, economic, particularly. And Zoron's been talking about what?

Speaker 3 Rent control, free buses, grocery stores. Which will all fail.
All fail.

Speaker 3 They are unworkable. They are a laughingstock.
They are not a serious proposal. They will fail.
They will end in destruction. They will end in absolute catastrophe.
That's not the point.

Speaker 3 The point is, what is he talking about? And he's gotten one good thing accomplished in his campaign.

Speaker 3 And that is, and it goes back to this idea of the question he was asked in the debate: like, where are you going to go to Israel? He goes, no, I'm going to stay right here. Which was completely.

Speaker 4 Don't blow through that point too fast. That was the moment I thought he would win.

Speaker 4 The whole debate crowd, this is when it was a real jungle primary, and they were all announcing emphatically which country I'll go to. Cuomo said he'd go to Israel.
What did Eric Adams say?

Speaker 4 I don't even remember who came to the city.

Speaker 3 I can't even remember what he said.

Speaker 4 The point is, and I know this personally as a Los Angeles native, the shock of Karen Bass when the city burned down, that she was in Africa and showing you that she used the LA mayorship, which she's supposed to be keeping people safe, helping people thrive in her city.

Speaker 4 That instead of doing that, she was using it to not make herself even a national figure, an international figure. She's using the mayorship of L.A.
to go to Africa so she can hobnob.

Speaker 4 And Zohron's like, no, no, I'm not doing any of that. I'm staying in New York.
That's the exact type of stuff people want to hear. It's just true.
No, it's absolutely.

Speaker 5 He 100% won the communication game, especially during the Democratic primary, when they reasonably could have

Speaker 5 stopped him with a better candidate, with better messaging. And instead, they badly misplayed it.
And they essentially thought

Speaker 5 they could basically say, well, Zoron Mandani doesn't like Israel, which turns out that is not a good play with, as people are discovering, there's a lot of people who actually really dislike Israel in New York now due to well, and

Speaker 3 there's another point that we're going to get to. We also have Matt Walsh coming up in hour two, but Matt Walsh has pointed this out.

Speaker 3 Others have pointed this out that New York is essentially 40% foreign-born population. Mom Donnie is absolutely cooking with foreigners.

Speaker 3 If you are foreign and you have the right to vote, allegedly, in New York,

Speaker 3 you're supporting him in a clip of like 65, 70%. I mean, the guy is running away with foreign-born voters.

Speaker 3 You could now make the argument at 40% foreign-born that New York is no longer a truly American city. 40% are foreigners.
Now, the left will say, we love immigrants. That makes it even more American.

Speaker 3 They love America more. They're more patriotic than America.
Don't you know that foreigners are more American than Americans?

Speaker 4 They built this country.

Speaker 3 Muslims built this country. This is what they're saying.
So, anyways, this is one interesting piece, though, that we got to keep our eyes on as we're looking at this race.

Speaker 3 Because, again, people, you have to understand, in front of us, we have two lanes. You're either going to go grievance populism, which is essentially socialism into communism with Mamdani, Maggioni,

Speaker 3 or you're going to go MAGA, which is conservative national populism, which is national renewal, which is patriotism. Those are the two routes.

Speaker 3 The establishment is so screwed the pooch in this country economically, culturally, civically, that there is now at a crisis point.

Speaker 3 There is an inflection point in our country where we're either going to go this way or we're going to go this way. There's only two options.
The MAGA way is the American way.

Speaker 3 You still have the rule of law, the Constitution, patriotism, the American flag. You still get, you know, apple pie and baseball.

Speaker 3 The other way is an unrecognizable hellscape, a hell hole that we probably would not be able to come back from, although I never bet against America. I'll say that.
But this is a really big deal.

Speaker 3 And why are we at this inflection point? Because

Speaker 3 we have, as a country, over the last 40 years, pursued foreign interventions. We've spent money on blood, sand, and death.
We've inflated our currency. We've debased it.

Speaker 3 We've spent deficits that are eye-watering. And we have left the business of domestic policy to the side.
We have ignored it. We have not pursued it in earnest and with vigor.

Speaker 3 And this is ultimately, this is the Charlie Kirk show. This is ultimately what Charlie's message was.
We have to have an economic moonshot. We are in a race against the clock.

Speaker 3 We are either going to deliver on the promises that Trump was elected on, or we are going to ignore them and get distracted by infighting or whatever.

Speaker 3 And Gen Z is not going to get a piece of the American dream. They're not going to buy in.
I want to play this one clip. This is going to be from Mark Halperin.

Speaker 3 He's saying that there is at least one more, let's say, surprise coming in the Momdani race, 134.

Speaker 6 I inform Spidey Census. We're going to see at least one more piece of pretty significant opposition research dropped in this race here at the end that will potentially

Speaker 6 shake things up on one of the candidates, of course. No,

Speaker 6 on Mondami. I think that's it.
Will it have a effect on

Speaker 3 the outcome?

Speaker 6 If it's what I'm told it is, it would happen.

Speaker 3 So that is from Mark Halperin, who is a friend of the show.

Speaker 3 Why would someone sit on it? It's too late. They're voting late.
They've been voting.

Speaker 5 They're too far ahead. They could have something really bad.

Speaker 3 It should have already been dropped. All the high young women are voting.

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Speaker 3 So I think I want to take this because it's all related. It's all related.

Speaker 3 We are being told by Mehdi Hassan that Mehdi Hassan, by the way, I don't know if we have this graphic ready, but he called Charlie a bigot and a racist who spread hate.

Speaker 3 And we're going to get into that with Matt Walsh. So I don't want to completely go into the topic, but I'm keeping my powder dry to go after Mehdi Hassan because I don't like him.

Speaker 3 Candidly, if you're going to call my friend a racist and a bigot and hurl these insults, you can go pound sand about a thousand times. You can move away.

Speaker 3 You can go back to your real home, which is some Muslim

Speaker 3 namely London. I think that's very smart.
But we're going to get there in just a bit. But there is this, like, it feels like a re,

Speaker 3 I don't know, emergence, an ascendancy of this online chatter about

Speaker 3 black and brown people basically saying that we are under assault and that the big MAGA people are so racist and

Speaker 3 all this stuff. And now, because of the government shutdown, they are not getting their EBT, or at least that is, that is coming.
And a a lot of people on TikTok are sounding off about this.

Speaker 3 And there's even been a new Twitter X account created called EBT of TikTok. EBT of TikTok.

Speaker 3 And they are threatening a national day, a national shoplifting day,

Speaker 3 I guess, is, you know, to make up for

Speaker 3 this coming apocalypse

Speaker 3 that's coming.

Speaker 4 So here's what's fascinating about this conversation to me, because whenever we have the Democrats cause government shutdown, there's all these downstream effects, and they assume Republicans are going to get blamed for it.

Speaker 4 It's really the Democrats that are doing this. They won't fund a clean CR, so it's their fault.

Speaker 4 So if these are Democrat voters, we should remind all these voters that, hey, we're only here because of the Democrats.

Speaker 4 And if you look at this, I was pulling up the numbers before the show today, that food stamps are about 12% of U.S. grocery sales.
And they're way over-indexed for sugary drinks, cereals,

Speaker 4 frozen foods, salty snacks, candy. By volume, it's way out of proportion.

Speaker 4 So it's important every so often to have a national conversation where we bring that up, that the government money is being taken, confiscated from the taxpayers at gunpoint, is being given out so that you could buy, you know, candy and salty snacks.

Speaker 4 And it's important to know that that's not a great thing. But overall, if you're the person who thinks it is a good thing, to know that the Democrats got us here.

Speaker 4 And so we can have both of those conversations simultaneously, that I do think that they should be on the Democrats and they should be the ones who should bear the brunt of any political fallout if people can't get their candy rations.

Speaker 3 I think it's as simple as this, is that they lost the election. Now they are feeling the heat from their left flank.
And so now the establishment leadership Democrats are fighting.

Speaker 3 They're trying to prove to their base, their AOC wing of the party, that they are fighting, their Mom Dani wing of the party.

Speaker 3 And so they're just going to drag the country through this shutdown because they hate the fact that they lost an election. And by the way, they passed a clean CR earlier.

Speaker 3 And it all goes down to this ACA, this Obama subsidies.

Speaker 3 You know, it's like their minds are blown that there is a health care program program in policy in this country where a lot of people get health care that can't afford it.

Speaker 3 So other people have to subsidize it, which costs a lot of money because health care is expensive.

Speaker 3 And they also are making certain carve-outs for refugees or temporary asylum seekers or protected status, all of these things. And of course that costs money.

Speaker 3 And Republicans said, hey, it's going to cost a lot of money. We're not going to extend these subsidies forever.
And so

Speaker 3 the bill is coming due and the Democrats are freaking out and they're crying victim.

Speaker 3 But here's the deal: the snap benefits are hilarious because now TikTok is just full of a bunch of people that are just openly admitting that they're going to now steal. 177, we have it loaded.

Speaker 7 When are y'all going to go and snap? If they took away these snaps, these snap benefits, when is we snapping? When is the day?

Speaker 7 When are we snapping? When are we snapping? Because don't have me going in the grocery store and y'all loading up y'all carts with groceries, running out and I'm at the register. I'm running too.

Speaker 7 I'm running too.

Speaker 3 They're just openly admitting it. Let's go ahead and play 178.
We got a bunch of these examples. 178.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I told y'all, with or without EBT, me and mine gonna eat.

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Speaker 3 Of course we both eat.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 Blake, this feels like a...

Speaker 5 We got 45 seconds here, but this feels like now we're just at the phase where we're openly admitting shotguns why can't we just say like okay so they get a gigantic federal program to give them free money in return for doing nothing and they're going to extort you and say if we don't give us more free stuff in return for doing nothing for being fat lumps of crap we're going to go and steal a bunch from stores which we already essentially don't punish because god forbid we punish people who commit crimes and break laws and as a result you have countless cities in the U.S.

Speaker 5 have the toothpaste and the deodorant behind a freaking locked door because otherwise people steal them all of the time.

Speaker 4 And not to mention how many foreigners, even illegal aliens, getting snap benefits and they're demanding that we keep it up or we're going to rip off the stores.

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Speaker 3 So I am very excited about this. I think it's one of the most important.
If you tune out everything else today, I want you to be completely focused on this moment.

Speaker 3 Of course, don't tune anything else out. So the whole show is important, but please focus on this.
We have Rich Barris, Big Data Poll, the People's Pundit on X.

Speaker 3 Rich, you're joining us now because I called you literally on the way to the studio, and I was like, brother, this is the most critical insight that I have seen basically since the election.

Speaker 3 You did a great interview with Steve Bannon on War Room this morning. Shout out to Steve.
But this is critically important.

Speaker 3 And it is this bifurcation of our focus that seems as old as time, especially within the GOP, between foreign policy and domestic issues. Walk us through this.
I've got the graphs ready.

Speaker 3 I'll put them up when you call for them.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Andrew, thanks as always for having me on.

Speaker 6 Look, the Republican Party has got to snap out of what they're in right now. And, you know, I've learned in the last couple of weeks that the left is not the only one who can be in a bubble.

Speaker 6 And actually, it's more than a couple of weeks.

Speaker 6 But, you know, if you talk to people in and around Congress, you know, they think everything's swimming and magical, and even people in the administration.

Speaker 6 And the fact of the matter is, the voter does not. So they are giving Trump, and your opening was fired because they're giving Trump a lot of grace.

Speaker 6 They would never give another Republican president because he's Donald Trump and he's different. And that's something Republicans are just going to have to grapple with.

Speaker 6 You're just not going to be able to mirror that kind of love that he has from these voters.

Speaker 6 So they're giving him a lot of grace, but they are screaming at this point that Trump was not elected to focus all over the world like this.

Speaker 6 And a lot of people, there are different elements in administration. It's the way administrations work.
They're always trying to fight for the presidency ears.

Speaker 6 The voter wants the administration to refocus on domestic issues.

Speaker 6 And it's very important that people understand that there is, and yeah, I mean, if you put the graphic up, you're going to see it's a majority.

Speaker 6 It's 52% roughly who say the Trump administration is focusing too much on foreign affairs and

Speaker 6 wants them to

Speaker 6 recommit to the domestic agenda.

Speaker 3 Exactly. So that purple

Speaker 3 on the, I guess, the right side of your screen, right, Rich, that's the people that say the Trump Trump administration is focusing too much on foreign policy.

Speaker 6 That's right.

Speaker 6 And it's worse when you look inside of who is saying this, Andrew, because, of course, you're going to get some Democrats who are just going to try to pick, you know, whatever they think will make Trump look the worst in the poll, right?

Speaker 6 That's not what's going on here. If you look at the independents specifically, who we call them MAGA independents, they only vote for Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 Their vote history is basically 24, maybe 20, 24, 20, 16, right? And then they disappear disappear from elections every other time when Donald Trump is not on the ballot.

Speaker 6 They did not vote for Trump again for foreign entanglements and all of this focus. And I understand, you know, you and I, we do this for a living.

Speaker 6 So we understand the president's job a lot has to deal with foreign policy.

Speaker 6 But there is a point in any administration where you can get, I mean, bifurcated is a nicer word, but you could just flatly get distracted with foreign affairs and forget that the country has much more interest in solving domestic issues.

Speaker 6 No matter how important, you know, the peace deal in the Middle East is, right, or whatever's going on with Israel, or how important the Russo-Ukrainian war is in eastern Ukraine, which, by the way, he told them he would end in 48 hours.

Speaker 6 No matter how important any of that stuff is, you're never going to convince the voter that it's more important than their ability to buy eggs at the grocery store. Or

Speaker 3 the rich,

Speaker 6 which is why Momdani is winning.

Speaker 3 This is exactly right. So Momdani has a bunch of fairy tales that he's pitching out to the New York voter voting electorate, which, by the way, is like 40% foreign-born.

Speaker 3 So they just want free stuff off the American taxpayers' back. I get it.
I get their motivation. But he is doing one thing right, and that he's talking about affordability.
He's talking about

Speaker 3 the kitchen table issues, right? So let's show me. I'm going to put up this one.
This is 181. It's

Speaker 3 a little bit of a complicated graph. Rich, boil 181 down for us.
What are we looking at here? Because this is like, please rank each each issue from most to least important to your vote.

Speaker 3 And right at the top, cost of living, inflation, economy, jobs.

Speaker 6 Way ahead, Andrew, way ahead. So this is called rank distribution.
And we'll do this when we identify the top 10 issues that people are telling us about. We'll tell them to rank them.

Speaker 6 And the reason we do this, instead of just giving what most pollsters do, a multiple choice response, they'll have to pick their number one and that's it.

Speaker 6 Maybe the economy or inflation comes in at like 25%. The economy comes in at 20%, right? That doesn't give you as much insight as a ranked distribution does.

Speaker 6 So, what we're telling them to do is rank it, like you said, from most to least important, one through 10.

Speaker 6 And it gives us a better understanding of three issues, four issues, five issues that are driving people's, what, you know, driving people's decision in who they're going to vote for, what they're prioritizing.

Speaker 3 This graph is so, it's, is like freaking everything. I don't know how to like,

Speaker 3 it's so critically important. It's top five issues.
Cost of living, inflation, economy, jobs. Number three, health care, Obamacare.
Number four, crime and safety.

Speaker 3 Number five, immigration, border, and security.

Speaker 3 By the way, just one small pet peeve that I have with immigration and border security is that when Joe Biden was president, it was a complete, you know, chaos at the border.

Speaker 3 Millions of people, these videos were going everywhere, and that was ranking almost as the top issue. As soon as President President Trump fixes it, people forget about it and falls off the cliff.

Speaker 3 It's just a crazy issue like that.

Speaker 3 At least you know that.

Speaker 6 This is what I've been trying to do.

Speaker 3 It happened in Trump 1.0.

Speaker 6 It happened in Trump 1.0.

Speaker 3 He got zero credit when it came to 2020 for that because he largely taken care of it. It was still an issue more so than it is now.
But the fact that he has been so

Speaker 3 it has been such a decisive and historic achievement on the border, our attention spans are so short that

Speaker 3 it goes away. It's like it didn't even happen.

Speaker 6 It's a sad commentary on the American voter and how they make rational policy choices, but that is the case.

Speaker 6 And the same thing would happen if there was an economic crisis and then he came in and he fixed the economic crisis. It would fall as well.
Like the economy would fall

Speaker 6 as being prioritized in how they're going to vote. It's the way, it's the nature of things.
I will say this, though, when we asked his approval about issues,

Speaker 6 he gets good marks. The best marks he gets is on immigration.
So they are giving him credit for it.

Speaker 6 I think that's probably why his approval rating has not fallen more than what we have it now, which is in the mid-40s.

Speaker 6 But he gets good marks on immigration. Then, after that, is foreign policy.
But, guys, if you look at the approval rating on inflation and cost of living, I'm going to say this.

Speaker 6 It doesn't give me any pleasure to say it, but it's true and I have to say it. It's Biden-level bad.
He is now at Biden-level

Speaker 6 approval when it comes to do you approve or disapprove of how he's doing his job and president with each of the following issues. And we ask about inflation and cost of living.
It's abysmal.

Speaker 6 The numbers are horrible, Andrew. And yet he's still, you know, he's still only negative a few points because I think people are remembering, look,

Speaker 6 he didn't get that great of a situation. But my point is this.
Now, and I started to, you know, raise this flag when everything started with the bombing of Iran. This happens with administrations.

Speaker 6 It's very difficult to remain focused on what it is you were elected to do. And

Speaker 6 let me put it this way. People, especially these MAGA only or Trump or bust voters, we'll call them sometimes.

Speaker 6 They believe that Donald Trump being re-elected is literally this country's last chance before we go past the point of no return.

Speaker 6 So we pass the event horizon with the dead or we pass the event horizon with immigration or we pass the event horizon, which is so many other problems that we have in this society.

Speaker 6 We simply cannot correct them. So it's not that they didn't support

Speaker 6 getting rid of Iran's nuclear weapons.

Speaker 6 It doesn't have to be one or the other. The issue for them is, what about us?

Speaker 6 Do we or do we not come first? Like you're saying is literally America first. And yet their last chance, they feel, is being gobbled up by the interests of other people and other nations.
So

Speaker 6 if they don't refocus, Andrew, this is going to be cool.

Speaker 3 Blake and I were having this debate before we started the show, and I was like, well, you know, the inflation is cooling.

Speaker 3 The, you know, the numbers are cooling the market, stock market, but people don't care about the stock market like they used to. Like, Trump can't go around being like, oh, the market's up.

Speaker 3 Look at your friends.

Speaker 4 It didn't work in 2020. He talked non-stop about stocks.

Speaker 5 Yeah, people don't own much in stocks.

Speaker 3 Yeah. No, absolutely.
So

Speaker 3 what's the answer then? So inflation is cooling, but he's still getting clobbered on cost of living and inflation.

Speaker 6 So what's

Speaker 6 as I tried, I think, to explain

Speaker 6 is that some of this, I think a lot of this, is just about optics, right?

Speaker 6 So, and if you look at the White House schedule, since I mean, you can go back to that conflict, that military exercise, go and look at the White House schedule, Andrew, and you'll see that they're clearly prioritizing foreign over domestic.

Speaker 6 It's just true. So when the voters are yelling in my ear about it, it's hard to argue with them.
It's optics. I mean, what are you talking about every day?

Speaker 6 I mean, they repeatedly step on their own message and their own success. I mean, it's just the truth.

Speaker 6 You have to convince them that that's your main focus, even if you're gaining ground.

Speaker 6 You need them to know that you're focused on it.

Speaker 3 I think you're right.

Speaker 3 I think Trump is the expert of this. He could pivot.
quickly if

Speaker 3 this got through his head because what you then start doing you start commissioning like you know and it obviously would be the Hoover Dam, but something like that, some big, huge domestic, you know,

Speaker 3 big,

Speaker 3 what do they call it? The big, hairy, bold ideas or whatever, like these, these big, audacious ideas that only Trump could inspire people to believe was possible.

Speaker 3 Big visual landmark achievements that are here, that are monuments, that work, that help make people's lives better. We got to come up with stuff like this to re-inspire the population.

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Speaker 3 So, Rich, I'm going to read you some emails here. Uh, Blake's going to pull some up.
I see one from Debbie. She goes, I'm watching Rich Barris.
Trump can multitask, and that's what he's doing.

Speaker 3 He's going around the world to make the United States the strongest and get us the best deals. The fruits of his labor will be coming in the next year.
He has not forgotten about us.

Speaker 3 He is 100% balls to the wall, multitasking. So, I disagree with him.

Speaker 3 I guess him is what she's saying. Do you

Speaker 3 is there time to correct? I mean, mean, we've got a midterms. I mean, this is just the politics of it.

Speaker 3 Do we have time to correct?

Speaker 6 Look, I mean, it's not disagreeing with me. You're disagreeing with the voters that we surveyed.
I'm only conveying the opinion of the voters.

Speaker 6 And to tell you, I mean, the bottom line is that sounds like a core Trump voter. That's not the problem, and that's not what wins elections.
Of course, you need to get your base out.

Speaker 6 But there is specifically a slice of the electorate that has only been voting for Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 That Republicans, it should be their number one job on planet Earth right now, should be to convince these voters to stay Republican.

Speaker 6 It's the reason why Mike Rogers lost in Michigan, but Donald Trump won. It's the reason why Dave McCormick barely held on the skin of his teeth while Donald Trump won easily.

Speaker 6 Those are the voters you have to really cater to.

Speaker 3 Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com. Freedom at charliekirk.com.
We're taking your emails, Rich Barris.

Speaker 3 So, so I get another email here. You know, I watched Bannon with Rich, and I'm glad you're bringing it to this audience.
I totally agree.

Speaker 3 The way people voted on Rich issues, it basically was on domestic issues and low interest on abortion. That's another insight, by the way, from

Speaker 3 this graph. Abortion came in last, which is fascinating.

Speaker 3 So, what they're going to do now, Democrats are pivoting from abortion to health care. Don't you think, Alex?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think they definitely do that.

Speaker 4 But I'm going to go back to inflation for a second because inflation's down, big league. And we were told it was going to go up because of tariffs, And it's not gone up.
It's gone down significantly.

Speaker 4 And this is since Trump's been president. And it would be up, it would be down more aside from he hasn't been a president for a year.

Speaker 4 So he's still getting boned by some of the worst Biden spending spree at the end. But no one's telling the story.
Of course, the establishment media is never going to tell the story.

Speaker 4 And then in conservative media, we're spending a lot of time fighting amongst ourselves these days. We're not going to write the story.

Speaker 4 So there's really important media story as well that's happening here.

Speaker 3 Rich?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 6 I 100% agree with that. There is a lagging effect when voters begin to feel what we see in economic indicators.
It does lag sometimes. There is an argument that people make, and

Speaker 6 it's a strong argument. But again, I think then it's incumbent on Republicans.
It's incumbent on the White House. Trump drives the message, right? The White House drives the message.

Speaker 6 It's incumbent on them to tell that story. Well, Andrew, on several days,

Speaker 6 let me just say this real quick. On several days of those CPI reports, they've stepped on their own good news.

Speaker 3 Yeah, very good point. I totally agree.
So, one of the suggestions from Terry is: could we deploy J.D. Vance domestically to sort of be that domestic messenger, or does it have to come from Trump?

Speaker 6 Is that what you're saying? I mean, I'm

Speaker 6 trying.

Speaker 6 On that front,

Speaker 6 I've had the same idea, and I'm trying, but I do think that Trump remains the strongest.

Speaker 6 It's not just him as a personality. Part of it is the role that the president plays.

Speaker 6 He's not exactly a head holder

Speaker 6 or a handholder. So we had this idea of the seasick voter back in 2020.
Of course, it was the media rocking the boat, but Trump isn't, he's just not him.

Speaker 6 It's not who he is, the great consoler in chief, right? Some presidents have been that way.

Speaker 6 He's got, there's more

Speaker 6 machismo there than there is in prior presidents who do things like that. So I don't think they need that.
I just think

Speaker 6 they need to think or they need to know that that is Trump's number one focus. Like, Andrew, the days of I feel your pain, I hear your voice, right? That is nowhere existent right now.

Speaker 6 And people are feeling pain. I'm telling you, in peer-to-peer interviews conducting this poll, people were sending back grocery store memes.
I mean, that doesn't happen to pollsters, guys. All right.

Speaker 6 So people were so...

Speaker 6 whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 6 They're so passionate about this. They're literally tweeting or texting back to the agents on the other end.
They're literally texting them memes about prices, the grocery stores.

Speaker 6 That's where we're at right now.

Speaker 4 This is super important because it's not just a media story.

Speaker 4 I think largely this is a media story, but this is an important point Rich is making because you can definitely feel it that the people still feel like we're getting screwed, squeezed the grocery store too much.

Speaker 4 It's a really tough battle, and it's one that does need a lot more of a priority.

Speaker 4 Because Americans, it doesn't matter who's president, if you feel the pinch of the grocery store, you're not going to be happy with your life.

Speaker 3 It's just a flat-out fact.

Speaker 5 I guess when I think of Trump's approval ratings, we're talking about whether he needs to be the messenger.

Speaker 5 Has Trump ever really been a strong messenger outside of his base? I feel like Trump has always been strongest as president, I feel, when the story is least about him.

Speaker 5 And I feel like his personal disposition is such that he doesn't ever like being out of the spotlight.

Speaker 5 Yet I think his administration has often come off the strongest when the story is not, you know, what Trump said on truth, what Trump said on X, what the latest thing thing Trump did that is causing controversy.

Speaker 5 A lot of people just really like his core policies, whether it's on trade or on international affairs. And when those are the story and he's actually a bit in the background, I think he's at a strong.

Speaker 3 Well, I actually do agree with that just from a messaging standpoint. But Trump does, you know, it's the Trump show.

Speaker 3 We're all in the Trump show.

Speaker 3 We're all in the train. We can't get off.

Speaker 3 So on what Blake mentioned, trade. How is that factoring into the tariffs, all that stuff? Really quick, Rich Barris.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I actually, I mean, people who dislike Trump are going to bring up stuff like the tariffs and their impact on inflation without even knowing or understanding that what was just said before is actually true, that inflation has cooled and that the big, you know, chicken little, the sky is falling, you know, predictions over the impact tariffs would have on it.

Speaker 6 It just never came true, right? So again, I think it's coming down to this, guys.

Speaker 6 And I actually do agree with Blake, you know, that background is better. But next time he steps to the microphone, more about domestic, less about foreign policy.

Speaker 3 That's all they hear from him. Simply,

Speaker 3 Rich Barris, the people's pundit, check him out. He's the best.
We thank you, Rich. We'll see you again soon, man.

Speaker 4 All the best, brother.

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