96: Brother Beard & Sister Soup

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Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, you know what time it is.

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Speaker 2 Hello, everybody, and welcome to Geekenders. It is October 29th, and we are delighted to be with you on this spooky week.

Speaker 2 Jesse and I were just talking about the ethics of stealing other people's faces during the intro, so we're all busy. Ethically dubious.

Speaker 2 Morally

Speaker 2 delightful. He was like, what if they're bad people?

Speaker 2 Yeah, what if I steal the face of bad people? And then someone was like, well, why would you want to do that? Stop asking questions that you don't want to answer to.

Speaker 2 Somebody else in this call was like,

Speaker 2 why on earth would you want to swap faces with somebody who has a worse and more complicated life than you?

Speaker 2 It frees me up

Speaker 2 to indulge.

Speaker 2 And then they get the blame for it. So like, that's, you know.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm saying. Sure.

Speaker 2 How's your week going, buddy? What is going on at the end of the week?

Speaker 2 We're headed to Chicago to do Cox and Crendor live. Oh, my God.
Along with True Illuminati, yeah, on Saturday.

Speaker 2 So I will be leaving tomorrow, headed to Shidown.

Speaker 2 And it'll be fun. I'm excited.

Speaker 2 See times, as always.

Speaker 2 How often do you do? It feels to me like you do that so often, but maybe it's not as

Speaker 2 maybe once or twice a year. But

Speaker 2 why does it feel like it feels like it happens quarterly, but it might just be because

Speaker 2 time is going by so quickly that every time you're like I'm going to Chicago, I'm like, Crendor on the podcast.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 that probably makes you feel like it happens often,

Speaker 2 you know, maybe sure. Because it's like a lot of crendor and you're like, yikes, dude, you know?

Speaker 2 He messaged us,

Speaker 2 what, like a week ago, being like, guys, it's time for your quarterly crendor.

Speaker 2 He let us know, he sent us a message. He was like, I talked with the accountants, it's time.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 yeah, bless him for reminding us. Yeah, it's good, it's good that he did because chat never would.
Chat never mentions it, so they would never bring him up.

Speaker 2 No, they never talk about him, it's crazy. So, no, we need Crendor to remind us,

Speaker 2 right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, it would be so crazy if there was a day when chat actually did remind us about Crendor. Yeah.
And I was like, hey, guys, you should have him on again.

Speaker 2 Guys, is it time for your quarterly crendor? I would give real American dollars for somebody to say that. To just like remind us.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 To just be involved, you know, and like care about the quarterly crendor the way that we do. Right.
Cause we're like, I think about it frequently.

Speaker 2 There's not a day that goes by when I don't think about how do I get Crendor back on the podcast. Yeah, it feels like nearly every other week, you're like, should we have Crendor back on?

Speaker 2 I bug you frequently. I will call you.
You mention it all the time. But I just don't want to take the time to look at the calendar and be like, oh, how long has it been?

Speaker 2 Like, we don't want to have him on more than quarterly because then it's like a weird thing, you know, it's become like a cute thing. It's like a name.

Speaker 2 You don't want to overuse him. No.
Right.

Speaker 2 But I just miss him so much. Once a week with him, mandated by law is not nearly enough.
It's not enough. I get that.
right i don't even get i don't even get to spend one day a week with him so

Speaker 2 which is why i'm trying to help you that's why i'm reminding you hey you got to have him back on right

Speaker 2 and then fortunately he reminded us so he's coming on soon yep

Speaker 2 wait no for really he is

Speaker 2 we can talk about this later No, I don't think we should do that.

Speaker 2 What? What do you mean?

Speaker 2 I don't think we should have him on. This is a problem.
Oh, no, we have to.

Speaker 2 Why? What? No. No, no.

Speaker 2 We signed a thing. Remember? I didn't sign it.
I didn't

Speaker 2 sign it.

Speaker 2 No, you definitely did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I thought that was a takeout order for tacos. No, no, no, no, no, no.
That was the contract with Crendor. He has to come on quarterly.

Speaker 2 That's why he's reminding us because.

Speaker 2 Is that why I never got tacos?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 That sounds like a separate thing, maybe.

Speaker 2 Okay, good.

Speaker 2 All right. Anyway, okay, good.
Love Crandor. Huge fan.
Oh, he's like so much. Right.
But also,

Speaker 2 I got to look into that taco situation. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Bro,

Speaker 2 there are more and more T-bells showing up out here.

Speaker 2 And we keep

Speaker 2 trying them.

Speaker 2 We keep trying the taco bells. What do you mean? There are more and more showing up.

Speaker 2 You mean in your area there are multiple and you're trying different ones or you're trying the same one multiple times?

Speaker 2 No, not the same one. But there are more showing up within like a

Speaker 2 30-minute drive of us. And so if we're- Well, are you driving there or having it delivered?

Speaker 2 You can't get.

Speaker 2 We cannot get it delivered. No, it's way too far away.

Speaker 2 I'm just trying to set up where you are on the I'm trying to gauge. It's I want to know: did you eat Taco Bell fresh Taco Bell or like Taco Bells?

Speaker 2 Okay, no, no, no. So

Speaker 2 it's a, oh, we happen to be over here. I think a T-bell opened up over here.
Maybe we should try it.

Speaker 2 It's that kind of a kind of, we don't specifically drive out to get it, and it's way too far away for it to come to us. So, okay.

Speaker 2 We went to a T-bell.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 And every time

Speaker 2 all of you the three of us the family wow okay we went there my kid has been like a groundhog poking her head out of the out of the ground of safe foods lately to try new things so she was like i want to try some things at taco bell we're like great

Speaker 2 um but we both felt the need to be like we just want you to know that this is not what american taco bell tastes like

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 what do you mean whoa because it doesn't It doesn't. It doesn't taste the same.

Speaker 2 None of the fast food tastes the same. But Taco Bell specifically, the reason we keep trying it is because we're like, one day, maybe it'll taste the same.
In what way? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 Like, in what way is it different?

Speaker 2 The meat doesn't taste the same. The cheese doesn't taste the same.
I don't know. I don't know.
It doesn't taste the same. Like, good or bad? Bad.
No. Otherwise, we'd go back to the same one again.

Speaker 2 What do you think? We keep trying different ones.

Speaker 2 And every time there's like at least a year in between, so we're like, maybe,

Speaker 2 maybe we've maybe we've gotten there now, or maybe we're closer, but it never

Speaker 2 tastes right.

Speaker 2 We still eat it all, it just doesn't taste the same. Sure, it, I mean, like, is it because when I think Taco Bell, I think slurry-like meat,

Speaker 2 I think cheese sauce that probably does not contain cheese. I think weird extra sauces like Chipotle

Speaker 2 something sauce. I think, like, I don't think, you know, when I think Duckle Bell, they just said the chili cheese burrito, that was like a slurry of chili, cheese wrapped up.
That's it. Right.

Speaker 2 And I feel like that's really hard to mess up.

Speaker 2 So the fact that it's worse is shocking to me. The common thing to say when fast food tastes different is,

Speaker 2 well, the food laws are different out here, which is true.

Speaker 2 The laws about what you can put into food and how much of it are different. Which usually translates into

Speaker 2 like McDonald's, for instance, actually tasting good and not like tasteless garbage trash. Sure.
Or like one time I went to Subway in the UK and I was like, oh my God, this actually.

Speaker 2 This looks like stuff that was made by a person comparatively to here in LA.

Speaker 2 Do you like the subway in england it is better than a u.s subway i don't like subway in general i'm not a subway fan in general but i tried it at one point i

Speaker 2 hate subway here to a

Speaker 2 violent extent i hate it so much when was the last time you had u.s subway

Speaker 2 um i don't know but well it's garbage i really hate it here

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 Interesting. So, yeah, I mean, there's like a,

Speaker 2 I actively try not to eat fast foodie things, but sometimes I'll try it when I'm overseas just to try it.

Speaker 2 And usually I'm like, oh, this tastes like a thing

Speaker 2 rather than, again,

Speaker 2 if you were to order a McDonald's hamburger here in the States, minus any sauce or topping, just cheese and meat, it has zero, it does not taste like anything. It is a non, there's no taste to it.

Speaker 2 I'm convinced the McDonald's cheeseburger is 90% the ketchup and mustard they put on it just to make it have some flavor.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. So, getting that overseas, I was like, oh, okay, this is

Speaker 2 interesting. So, I'm curious.
My assumption would be it would taste better. But maybe what we've learned here is that

Speaker 2 Taco Bell

Speaker 2 is designed not

Speaker 2 to be be good.

Speaker 2 And in that realm of trash food, it is king. Do you

Speaker 2 like Taco Bell? Like, just normally?

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 2 okay, no. So we're, we're not the same.

Speaker 2 Well, hold on. I really enjoy Taco Bell.
Taco Bell. There are things I love at Taco Bell,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 it is like

Speaker 2 not good for me in any stretch of the imagination no

Speaker 2 i mean i agree but like

Speaker 2 you know like i said those chili cheese burritos when they brought back that 90s menu i don't know if you guys had that they brought back this like 90s menu of all the old school things

Speaker 2 yo that made me so happy i was so i was so thrilled i would i drove over there like two chili cheese burritos and a baja blast please and they were like

Speaker 2 got you munched those had a great time so some things I love. And some things I'm like, you put so many gross sauces on this one thing.
It's, I can't do it. Like, I'm not a big sour cream guy.

Speaker 2 I don't like the weird like sauces they put on stuff. I don't, it's not for me.
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 I just get one. My normal order is one crunch wrap,

Speaker 2 three crunchy tacos. Not the supremes.
Just three plain crunchy tacos. And then cheesy fiesta potatoes, which are not on the menu anymore but they'll still make them for you

Speaker 2 and that's it i get that every time when i'm in the united states

Speaker 2 so i guess i'm not

Speaker 2 so i guess i'm not experiencing the stuff that's like slathered

Speaker 2 really

Speaker 2 even i would

Speaker 2 in my mind the cheesy potatoes i'm like it's too much cheese i'm not a sauce guy I never have been. I'm not

Speaker 2 a sauce guy. Because I don't like it on my fingies.

Speaker 2 I don't like it gooping out the sides of things. And I don't like it.
I don't, that's gross. When people put too much mayo on a thing, I am like, well, not eating this.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm not even going to try to get it off. I'm like, no.
Do you partake of the English breakfast when you come out here?

Speaker 2 Sometimes I will say when I used to go out there all the time. Now, no.

Speaker 2 I think I graduated from like English breakfast just like a sensible muffin.

Speaker 2 Sure. English breakfast is a lot.
It is.

Speaker 2 But I have learned that if you don't tell them this, they will basically put beans on the plate in a way where everything is touching beans.

Speaker 2 And that I hate that.

Speaker 2 I'm not too upset about that.

Speaker 2 For some reason. I just don't want beans on everything.

Speaker 2 I don't want beans on everything.

Speaker 2 But most of that breakfast stuff isn't a big problem for me.

Speaker 2 Like, but the minute, you know what? I think I have a delineation of time. Okay.

Speaker 2 If we were to get into afternoon and you were to put a bunch of stuff on a plate and it would start to mix, I would have an issue.

Speaker 2 Or if we were to barbecue and you put beans next to coleslaw and the two mixed, then we'd have a problem. Okay.

Speaker 2 But beans plus bacon or beans plus sausage or beans plus hash brown or beans plus mushrooms.

Speaker 2 That's fine. That doesn't affect me in any way.
Okay. But if it was like

Speaker 2 beans plus oatmeal, then we'd have an issue. Well, yeah.

Speaker 2 Right? Or like, I don't know. Why is why is oatmeal freewheeling it on your plate anyway?

Speaker 2 You know, it was a hell of a day. I don't know.
Sounds like a terrible plate, to be honest. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The other thing I've learned is that

Speaker 2 everybody's like perfect English breakfast looks different. Like Sam always wants black pudding.
I hate black pudding. I don't want that shit.
I'm not a big black pudding fan either. It's a

Speaker 2 little much for me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I wonder if it's one of those things where it's different depending on if you grew up with it. Because the people that I know that consistently eat it grew up eating it, you know?

Speaker 2 Sure, sure. I imagine that's the same case for a lot of those things.
Like

Speaker 2 what's that Japanese fermented bean thing? Oh, nato.

Speaker 2 It looks so gross. It tastes so gross.
I think it's the grossest thing thing on planet. So snotty.
So much snot. Yeah.
It's super gross. But the amount of people I know who are like, I love it.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, well, when did you learn to like it? Like, oh, I grew up with it. I'm like, well, there you go.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's the deal. Yeah.
Or like Haggis.

Speaker 2 Haggis is another one of those that typically people don't like very much unless they grew up eating it. Or all the normal.
I thought it was okay.

Speaker 2 Like, oh, Jesse, this

Speaker 2 Goober Schnotter candy or whatever the hell we're eating that's like 90% salt. It's so good.
I'm like, you're lying to yourself. Stop it.

Speaker 2 You've been eating that since you were a kid, and that's the only reason why you think it's good. It is the worst-tasting candy on planet Earth.
What would you say is

Speaker 2 like a big nostalgia food for you that you don't really eat very often anymore?

Speaker 2 Nostalgia food. Oh, man, I don't eat often.
Um,

Speaker 2 hot pockets,

Speaker 2 hot pockets, diarrhea pockets.

Speaker 2 I wish I ate hot pork. Hot pockets.
Hot porkets? Hot pockets. Hot pockets.

Speaker 2 I wish I ate them more often, but I just don't.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 even getting them in LA is kind of hard. If you want hot pockets in LA, you have to go to like a grocery store.
And

Speaker 2 the ones that have hot pockets only have them in like eight pack sizes. Like, I'm not that committed to the hot pocket life.
I

Speaker 2 want like one or two.

Speaker 2 I don't, yeah, I haven't had hot pockets. Oh, you know what else? Gushers.
Oh, gushers. That's another really good one.

Speaker 2 I'd bring back gushers to my life if I could. I would not.
The idea of chomping into a gummy and having something squirt into my mouth

Speaker 2 is not appealing to me anymore. In both cases, same thing.
Hot pockets, for those of you who are

Speaker 2 hot pockets, for those of you who do not know for some reason, are a little like imagine pastry, bread, and on the inside is stuffed with stuff.

Speaker 2 And then you put it in the microwave, and that's it. It's

Speaker 2 like they'll put meatballs and sauce or like pizza toppings inside one or ham and cheese. There's like a million different hot pocket things.
And yeah, it's like stromboli-esque. And

Speaker 2 hot pockets, the thing that it's known for is when you microwave it, it gets very, very hot. And then when you take your first bite, it burns your mouth every time.

Speaker 2 You can let it sit there for an hour. And when you take your first bite, you're still burning your mouth.
Like, the damn thing is pure evil.

Speaker 2 And it's because when you bite into it, it like splurts into your mouth. Same thing with gushers.

Speaker 2 Except that's just like candy, but it goes right in your mouth. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, I don't want to see

Speaker 2 anymore. I don't.
Yeah, no. I'm all right.

Speaker 2 We don't need to look into it. It's fine.
We don't even. You know what else I love? Fruit by the foot.
The longer, the better. Those are still around, man.
You could get a fruit by the foot right now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fruit by the foot.
I love fruit by the foot. Ooh, fruit roll-ups.
You know how you're supposed to unroll them? I like to just full cylinder, right?

Speaker 2 Are you wondering if I'm trying to make a goof? Yes. Yes, I am.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Yes, I am. Okay.

Speaker 2 I was just curious.

Speaker 2 You were trying to suss me out, and I wanted to let you know that, yes, I was making a goof. Okay, nice.

Speaker 2 Mine, I didn't realize until a couple of days ago when we were at the grocery store and I saw a bag of pork rinds

Speaker 2 and I was transported back.

Speaker 2 Sure,

Speaker 2 like fried pigskin, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My dad used to eat spicy pork rinds. My dad has a very addictive personality, so once he loves something,

Speaker 2 he loves it for a really long time.

Speaker 2 And pork rinds, spice, specifically the like burn your mouth off spicy pork rinds were his thing for my entire childhood. And I have such like a weird, nostalgic feeling around pork rinds.

Speaker 2 It's just so stupid.

Speaker 2 I was like, oh, I should buy this.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
No, I get that completely. Yeah.
I, um,

Speaker 2 yeah, I'm trying to think what was the thing in our house when I was a kid,

Speaker 2 But I don't,

Speaker 2 my parents would be like, we're gonna, we're gonna eat healthy. And then my dad would secretly smuggle like Oreos.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 And he'd be like, well, I don't, what are you talking about? Like, oh, dad, stop it.

Speaker 2 My dad's thing for the last few years has been lattes.

Speaker 2 I know, but he was told explicitly by the doctor, like, you really need to be careful about what you're eating. Um,

Speaker 2 and so he's been trying to make like the perfect

Speaker 2 low-fat, sugar-free latte that still like tastes really nice. And he's constantly tweaking the recipe, adjusting things to try to try and still have his latte that he wants.
And it's very cute.

Speaker 2 He did that with enchilada sauce when I was growing up too. He went to one restaurant that had the best enchilada sauce, according to him,

Speaker 2 and then was like, I'm going to figure out how to make that. And every time he would make enchiladas, we'd eat it and go, that was amazing.

Speaker 2 And he'd look so fucking depressed sitting at the table like, it wasn't right.

Speaker 2 Did he go? Did he go to the my mom school of cooking? Where she'd make something and it was delicious and we'd be like, that was great. And she goes, I could have done better every single time.

Speaker 2 But I feel like sometimes when people say that it's because

Speaker 2 they're like, it's the same sort of like they're overly critical about it, but also they want to say it out loud to everybody else to be like, don't worry, you don't have to like say that it's good.

Speaker 2 You're just being nice. I'm aware.
I'm aware that it was too salty, or I'm aware that it wasn't quite right. You know, my dad,

Speaker 2 we didn't exist at the table. He was in here staring at the plate like

Speaker 2 it's wrong

Speaker 2 like he was in another world thinking about like wishing he could redo the day you know

Speaker 2 that's like the start of an edgar allan poe novel

Speaker 2 like a short story where it's like He sat down and he couldn't look away from the

Speaker 2 sauce he had created that day.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's like, are you okay? And all he hears is the thumping the thumping of the sauce

Speaker 2 the last time that i talked about this with someone they were like most likely he did make a sauce that was really close but he had built it up so much in his head that he like couldn't and the place closed so he couldn't even go back to like retry it right

Speaker 2 it it became like this white whale right like he just couldn't

Speaker 2 He forgot what it really tasted like and had probably made something nearly perfect, but the you'll never know crazy version you can't try it again yes the insane ending of this story has to be that he's like

Speaker 2 i have to go back i have to go back and try it again and he gets back there in his clothes he's like no

Speaker 2 no

Speaker 2 right and he freaks out and he finds he like looks up who the owner was And he like stalks them and goes to their house. And he like kidnaps them and ties them to each other.
Like, you must.

Speaker 2 It's misery. You must make this for me.
Right. You must make make this for me and then when he makes it make the sauce it tries good it's not the same

Speaker 2 it's not the same sauce he's like and he throws he throws the spoon and sauce goes everywhere and he goes make it again

Speaker 2 yeah and he goes like that's how i made my sauce for 25 years he's like no it's not

Speaker 2 no it's not you think i'm some kind of idiot

Speaker 2 yeah and then After he goes completely insane,

Speaker 2 the last shot of the movie is a flashback to that night when he's at the restaurant and he's sitting there eating with the family. He's tasting the sauce and it's so good.

Speaker 2 And the camera with the creepy music slow pans into the kitchen. And the chef working that night was a different guy.
Different guy.

Speaker 2 End of movie. End of movie.

Speaker 2 That's it. That's the one.
Holy shit. That's it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Speaking of food, that is a great film. Speaking of food, I feel like this is a great way to transition naturally and with no bumps whatsoever into

Speaker 2 the tale of Sister Soup and Brother Beard,

Speaker 2 which we wanted so desperately to talk about

Speaker 2 last week and forgot until the last second.

Speaker 2 So for audio listeners,

Speaker 2 our names on the overlay today are Sister Soup and Brother Beard in honor of this, but also to remind ourselves to talk about it today.

Speaker 2 Because it's so funny. Would you like to

Speaker 2 explain what this is?

Speaker 2 Long ago, I'm going to say three, four weeks ago,

Speaker 2 Dodger on this very show brought up the very fun Road to Empress. And at the time, I'd got the game, hadn't played it yet, but you were like, it is so much fun.
fun.

Speaker 2 I did this and this and I died a bunch of times. It was great.
And I was like, I can't wait to play. It sounds awesome.
And so I went and I played.

Speaker 2 And then, ironically, immediately after, Crendor played a little bit too. And a lot of people started playing.
I'm going to, I'm going to say, Dodger started this trend.

Speaker 2 A lot of people started playing this game out of nowhere. Like,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 the famers started playing, and all the people who were like, you know, you know, the famers, the like 89,000 viewer streams are playing it. And it like blew up a little bit.
But

Speaker 2 somehow

Speaker 2 my video and dodger's video and i assume most of them ended up on billy billy which is a

Speaker 2 streaming service youtube service esque thing in china and it has this really fun feature where you can sort of write a thing and it appears on the screen permanently and stays there for people watching And so

Speaker 2 we were getting feedback reports.

Speaker 2 People translated our episodes. People translated the streams of us playing the game

Speaker 2 about those streams. And they are, I've never felt more flattered.
I'm going to let you know right now. They loved you.
They think you're a genius, dude.

Speaker 2 It was, they were like, this man figured it out.

Speaker 2 I need to broadcast specifically for China. I need to Michael Bay this shit and just focus on the Chinese market because they love me there.
They love you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was the fighting saint of like the Empress. They were like, this guy's amazing.
He knows what's up. This

Speaker 2 whole China right now. To remind you guys, when Jesse played Road to Empress from the get-go, he was like, I'm going to be cutthroat.
I'm trying to be Empress. This is going to be a dog-eat-dog world.

Speaker 2 And I need to, like,

Speaker 2 I need to not trust anybody. And he wound up barely dying.
Like.

Speaker 2 Smooth sailing through the whole game. You know, like really locked in.

Speaker 2 Love got me. I so much wanted two characters to be in love that I died five times trying to make that happen.
And it set me back in a way that broke my heart. I was like, no.

Speaker 2 They must be together. Look at this beautiful boy.
They must be together. I know, man.

Speaker 2 Rip. Yeah.
Rip. However,

Speaker 2 yeah, they seem to love that. And the funniest part was them being like, oh, he's played Dynasty Warriors, so he knows what's up.
And I'm like, yes, it's paying off.

Speaker 2 Years of Dynasty Warriors playthroughs are paying off.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then they got a hold of your footage too, and you became Sister Soup.

Speaker 2 I don't even know how that happened. Because if you'll recall, I got every single soup death.

Speaker 2 And they were like, This chick is really trying to go for gold on the soup deaths. Like,

Speaker 2 this is, what do they call it? The Osmanthus, like, full soup run.

Speaker 2 So I became, it's not just Sister Soup, it was Sister Soup Drinker was the full name.

Speaker 2 Which was very, it was very funny because, yeah, I died a ton in my playthrough, just step way high, like 40 something, nearly 50 times.

Speaker 2 And a lot of the deaths, spoilers, I guess, a lot of the deaths that you can get are being poisoned with soup.

Speaker 2 And I was poisoned by soup so many times that every time a character had soup on the screen, I was like, fuck, I'm about to die. Like, I had like a visceral reaction to it.

Speaker 2 But the response was so sweet because it was either them laughing about the soup thing or being like, oh, she's got such a nice laugh. And I was like, thanks, guys.

Speaker 2 They were very kind. They were very sweet.

Speaker 2 I don't know if we're getting suckered in by some sort of like honeypot scam

Speaker 2 where we're going to end up selling out our governments because China likes us. But I'm going to let you know, I'm this close.

Speaker 2 I'm like, this close.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 I've never in my life, I mean this,

Speaker 2 like I've seen a lot of, like, I've done a lot of videos. I have like 6,000 videos on the internet, and there have been some incredibly nice things said.

Speaker 2 But none of y'all ever called me Brother Beard and said I was the fighting saint to the Empress. None of you said you had never seen anyone play it better.

Speaker 2 None of you, like, they were like, this guy might be the greatest video game player ever. No one's ever said that about me.
Never.

Speaker 2 All I'm saying is, I'm here for this. If they were like, hey, move to China, we'll set you up with like a, like a house.
Y'all, like, well, you start seeing videos from me.

Speaker 2 They'd be like,

Speaker 2 The party has allowed me to speak on behalf of all China.

Speaker 2 Everyone here is amazing. There's no problems at all.
Don't question it.

Speaker 2 You're hearing some things in the West that might be a little

Speaker 2 lies,

Speaker 2 but here everything's beautiful. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 2 It was very sweet, is what I'm saying. Joe's aside.
Very sweet. Very, very sweet.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I enjoyed that tremendously.

Speaker 2 I was like, oh my gosh, and we have a whole second part of this game to play

Speaker 2 yes

Speaker 2 i have an opportunity to redeem myself or make it worse

Speaker 2 i'm happy with either you know you can't do crendor

Speaker 2 i told him the very first choice while we were recording cox and crendor i told him the first choice and he still died to it

Speaker 2 Amazing. I watched him stream and was like, how's that possible? You know how this is supposed to end.
And he's like, I love that. What if I do this? And I was like, Crendor.

Speaker 2 Crendor, please. Oh, well.
Yeah, I tried to help him.

Speaker 2 Here's the thing, though.

Speaker 2 Did either of you get the ending where you start a women's football team?

Speaker 2 I didn't think so.

Speaker 2 So I got some pretty good endings, okay?

Speaker 2 Not all of them were dead.

Speaker 2 What do you mean? She was like, screw it. No more of this Empress stuff.
Let's go just play football. Yeah, there's there's an ending where she just fucks off and starts a women's football team.

Speaker 2 And that caused me to be like,

Speaker 2 was soccer around at that time? And it was.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 2 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I got two different endings where I became a nun.

Speaker 2 Lots of stuff.

Speaker 2 Yes. Yeah.
I became a super spy at one point.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're like, you should become a nun. They really try to force you down that road at the end.
I missed it the point where I thought there was no other way.

Speaker 2 I was going to look this up later and I forgot to, but I was assuming like that was sort of a natural progression of like a retired siren

Speaker 2 maybe becomes

Speaker 2 a nun typically.

Speaker 2 I feel like in a society,

Speaker 2 the one that's expressed in the game at least, if the emperor is like, yo, you're my bang squad, I imagine that's what it was. Let's not.
I know. I know.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 That was just a funny way to put it.

Speaker 2 Right. But, like, I imagine in a society like that, the emperor, for the sake of being the emperor, would be like, if you don't want to do this anymore, you can't just like go live a life.

Speaker 2 Because I don't want anyone to be like, yo, I'm banging the chick that's banging the emperor. No, he'd be like, you're a nun now.
True. You know, there's like a little bit of,

Speaker 2 I control you so you can't become a person. Right.
So go be a nun because I don't want anyone to to deal with that. I didn't see this part of your playthrough.

Speaker 2 When you were given the opportunity to go smooch the emperor, did you do it? No. Me neither.
Okay. I was just curious.
I'm so curious what happens if you're like, yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 So my assumption is, because at a certain point, I learned that you want to stand out, but not in a way that singles you out.

Speaker 2 So going anywhere alone with the colours.

Speaker 2 So like the dance sequence near the, the, at the start of the game, that was one of those situations where I was like, Well, I don't want to shine too much right now, right? I want to like

Speaker 2 be terrible.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I want to be right in the middle, I think, because I'm a new baby. I've just come in here, and my elders are also here.

Speaker 2 So, like, yeah, yeah, although the, the, the, one of the choices was literally like either you do nothing and like, oh, I can't do anything, or you sing terribly, and I was like, why would you pick that?

Speaker 2 Or you do like a, like a little, oh no, it was you dance terribly, or maybe play music terribly, whatever it was, and then you sing beautifully. And I was like, well, I'm just gonna sing.

Speaker 2 It was you play music terribly. Yeah.
Yeah. I was like, why would I pick either of those? I'll just sing.
And that right away, when I sang beautifully, everyone was like, this bitch.

Speaker 2 And I was like, see, this is why you don't stand out.

Speaker 2 This is why you don't stand out. And so from that point on, I really was just like,

Speaker 2 all right, if I go to the emperor by myself, I'm alone with the emperor and everyone's going to start talking about me. Everybody's going to be talking about me.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 so I sent some other girl instead. Yep, and then she was like, Finally, I'll get my turn.
And while she was doing that, I was making plans. Yeah, I was like, You were

Speaker 2 playing

Speaker 2 billiards, shuffle board, whatever the shit that they played in that game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yep, I love that game, that was very fun. It was super fun.
I'm very excited for the second part. I'm already, I'm ready to be Empress.

Speaker 2 Me too.

Speaker 2 I must talk before I forget, yeah, About Outer Worlds 2.

Speaker 2 Okay. So I believe it's finally out today

Speaker 2 or yesterday. I don't know.
One of these days it came out officially. But I've had it for a little bit.
I've been playing. So I can finally talk about it.

Speaker 2 And I feel like this is a great time to do so. Okay.
So, um,

Speaker 2 yes, it says now available. Yes.
If you didn't play Outer Worlds 1, it came out the exact same time as Outer Wilds, so that probably confused the hell out of you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But Outer Worlds won, my gaming experience, I've mentioned this several times in the podcast, literally was I decided to play a complete asshole.

Speaker 2 And from moment one, murdered the first quest giver, skipped a bunch of stuff, got the best weapon in the game right away, just like straight up went nuts,

Speaker 2 had a blast to the point where I think Ashley Birch was one of the

Speaker 2 characters you could get, and she was terrified of me. My very first companion was terrified.
It was

Speaker 2 loved it. I was like, this rocks.
Okay. I'm glad they allow you to do stuff, right? I love when you're, when you're an RPG and you say, hey, I can let, like, I'm going to let you do whatever you want.

Speaker 2 You're going to end up with me doing things like Baldur's Gate, where I literally was like, fine, I want to be a bad guy who's trying to be good. And it worked.

Speaker 2 And so for that, for Outer Worlds, I was like, I just want to be an asshole.

Speaker 2 Had a great time. So this time around, Outer Worlds 2, first off, if you watch the secret level episode of Outer Worlds,

Speaker 2 I think exact same cinematics team because the cinematics in this game rock. They are so much fun.
The very first one you see is like a spoof of a TV show where it's the

Speaker 2 Earth Directorate, I think they're called.

Speaker 2 I'll get to it later, but there's two factions that sound very close to each other. I keep getting them confused.
But it's like the Earth Directorate.

Speaker 2 And it's like this like sassy badass captain lady and her like goofy pal buddy who's like, golly g.

Speaker 2 And they uh, you know, they have like a bunch of like, join the Earth Protectorate now. And they, it's very, um,

Speaker 2 Zap Branigan, like kip coded. Very cute.
I enjoy it tremendously. And

Speaker 2 that's like how the game starts with like this big opening number of just like a fantastic cinematic. Love that.

Speaker 2 And then it leads you into the game, which is basically

Speaker 2 unlike the first game. In this one, you are essentially a good guy.
I imagine if you went down the path of like,

Speaker 2 you know, I did bad things, you could become a baddie. But

Speaker 2 because I was a good guy, I kind of stayed a good guy. I didn't really move off that path.

Speaker 2 You are an Earth Directorate. like commander and in fact i think the name they give you is commander but you can change that and so when you start they're like okay

Speaker 2 let's make your character you can make your character whoever you want i tried to make him a guy but uh all the guy models i was like these guys are ugly as so i made her a sexy redhead she's great not that any of it matters because 99 of the time you do not see your character because you're in first person right so like

Speaker 2 doesn't matter and you're not doing a lot of talking because you're clicking things like an rpg rather than your character saying stuff right so it doesn't particularly matter so i was a sexy redhead running around the galaxy blasting dudes.

Speaker 2 But when you start, it's like, okay, hey, hey.

Speaker 2 Sure, you're the commander of this protectorate thing. You're doing whatever.
But

Speaker 2 what were you before this?

Speaker 2 You could be like a soldier or a renegade or like a street kid or like a scientist or all sorts. You mean all sorts of different things.

Speaker 2 And what you can do is then, so for example, I was a

Speaker 2 I was like a geologist or a like an archaeologist was my character basically. I was trying to make a character who would be

Speaker 2 good at finding things because I know how I played.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I'm going to look around at shit and I'm going to get lost and do stuff. And so I wanted a character who could find all the things.
So right away,

Speaker 2 I made it so my character was like, oh, is there. Things to find like secrets? I will find those faster than anyone else.
Oh, can I talk my Oeda situations? Sure, definitely I can.

Speaker 2 So I bumped up my speech, right?

Speaker 2 I was like good at like hacking things. And

Speaker 2 like with the first game and many other RPGs of this nature, you can just keep giving yourself perks, but as you do, you get negative things that you have to select.

Speaker 2 So there's a run you could make where you're just a dum-dum.

Speaker 2 Like you are, you could make

Speaker 2 a great run.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And one, you know, I was, uh, I was dumping points into stuff and lowering my HP.

Speaker 2 I was like, yeah, that's fine. Lower the HP.
It's all good. So I had like all these stats and I was like, lower the HP.
Let's go. Let's go.
And then you kind of jump into the game.

Speaker 2 And right away, the very first person, I love that they did this. The very first person you talk to is kind of like, it's another agent with the directorate.
And she is.

Speaker 2 a little sass monster and she gives you a bunch of crap because like i don't know that i can trust you you sat behind a desk and you did all these stupid things now you're going to be out here in the field with me and i was like oh because i was a nerd right

Speaker 2 and she's pissed and

Speaker 2 i imagine no matter what you choose that dialogue changes and she's not but also that affects you in a bunch of different ways just like any good rpg you have conversations where oh yeah no i know this thing or i can use this thing or if you're on a computer Yeah, and you can sort of like, a great example early on, because I don't want to spoil anything for the main game, but like early on,

Speaker 2 you have to

Speaker 2 get past these mechs. And everyone's like, what are we going to do? You have this option and this option and this option.

Speaker 2 And the option I chose was I got on the comms, completely talked my way into this guy believing that I was a new recruit. And I was like, yeah, the

Speaker 2 mechs are going crazy. If you could come over and fix this.
And he's like, yeah, okay, sure. And the reason I knew how to talk to him is I could have faked my way through it.

Speaker 2 But because I had all my like observational bonus points, I noticed all the crap in this room that can help me. Like there was one thing that was like a mind refresher.

Speaker 2 And I guess on this world, when people are bad, they send them to the mind refresher and kind of wipe them and make them clean. And so I was like, oh, yeah, no, I just got back to the mind.

Speaker 2 So I don't really remember how to do this. He's like, oh, the mind.
Okay, yeah, dude, I got you. So he helped me out.

Speaker 2 And then a little bit later, when shit's going down, I find him in this little control room and he's like, wait a minute, I know that voice. You said you were,

Speaker 2 what are you, but you're the, what are you doing? And I'm like,

Speaker 2 first off, chill out, bro. Second off, maybe I can help you.
I know you're afraid of getting mind wiped and you're afraid of getting in trouble, but like,

Speaker 2 what if

Speaker 2 I find a computer that has your information in it and wipe your slate clean there?

Speaker 2 It's like a mind wipe, but not, because it's their minds that's getting wiped because they won't know that you did all these things for me. And he's like, you do that for me? And I'm like, yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 Come on. And of course, you can get to that computer and decide whether to or not.
Right. But I was like, yeah, all right, sure.
Did that.

Speaker 2 There are parts where, like,

Speaker 2 because I had certain skills, there's certain rooms I can get into and certain things I can do.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of times where it's like, sneak past these guys. But also, you can just set the floor up.

Speaker 2 like make it electrocute them all to death and then someone will come over the comments and be like you were supposed to be sneaky and you're like i did what i had to do

Speaker 2 you can do whatever you want. Sure, I was really enjoying that, and it's pretty obvious.
Like, all the characters are like, they'll remember that, or they'll remember this.

Speaker 2 So, I bet there's a way to be kind of a bad guy. But as I played, no matter what I did, I was still a good dude.

Speaker 2 Like, I really tried to do some asshole things to people, and they were like, But you did it for the good of the earth. And I'm like,

Speaker 2 I guess,

Speaker 2 yeah, sure, yeah,

Speaker 2 but um,

Speaker 2 premise-wise, the game is essentially you've gone to the Arcadia system, which is this, you know, one of the many systems.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to remember what the first system was called in the first game, but whatever the case may be. You go to the system, and apparently they are known for creating the

Speaker 2 drives that power, you know, jumping.

Speaker 2 through space, but for some reason, rifts are appearing everywhere, and they are cutting through space-time, and they're potentially could cut off Earth from the colonies. This is bad news.

Speaker 2 So, you've been sent there to Arcadia, which is ruled over by this thing called the Protectorate, which again, when you have the Earth Directorate and you're fighting the Protectorate, it did get

Speaker 2 I kept forgetting who I was helping because the Protectorate's a faction, the Directorate's a faction. There's also the Order of the Ascendant, which is like a space church, church, but it's science.

Speaker 2 And then there's Auntie's Choice, which is

Speaker 2 the two mega corporations, Spacer's Choice and Auntie's from the first game, like combining together to make a super mega corporation. And they're trying to take over the system too.
So you have to,

Speaker 2 you know, go back and kind of mess with the different factions and do that stuff.

Speaker 2 However, there is a very funny thing you can do where you can get a perk that is like none of your factions will ever fall below neutral. Okay.
But if you keep

Speaker 2 messing with like adding additional perks, you can unlock a bad perk, which is none of your factions will raise above neutral. So you can literally just be like, I'm terrible and no one cares.

Speaker 2 You can like cheese it that way. Right.
Okay. Which I thought was pretty funny.
And so you.

Speaker 2 you you end up going to this place and uh there's a really fun intro of kind of sneaking onto onto this facility learning about the protectorate uh getting involved in what is very obviously a trap and then all hell breaks loose and cut to some amount of time no spoilers in the future and you go from there and um

Speaker 2 honestly i was enjoying myself a great deal like there are some things in this game that i did not expect at all like they start you like you can get a knife and you can get a pistol and you can get like guns and stuff like that but i I found a weapon, dukes.

Speaker 2 I found a weapon that is basically a giant mallet, but also a shotgun.

Speaker 2 Okay. I was so happy.
Like it was the greatest thing I've ever used in my entire life. I was like,

Speaker 2 well, I felt a lot cooler than I probably looked because I wasn't playing in third person. I was playing in first.
But like. I was this little tiny red-headed woman with this ridiculous.

Speaker 2 Like if I was a big beefy dude, I probably would have looked awesome. Anyway, I'm like, let's go.
And I'm just like bashing the hell out.

Speaker 2 I loved it. I had a great time.

Speaker 2 But at a certain point, I will say, it does that thing that is like,

Speaker 2 okay. Like the first area was really fun to explore and I enjoyed that.
There was a lot of things to like check out.

Speaker 2 But then I think it's like the second or third major area you go to. was like

Speaker 2 so big

Speaker 2 that I got hit with that thing that always drives me crazy, which is like there's so much to do, and I don't know where to go, and there's a lot. I was so overwhelmed that I like,

Speaker 2 all right, I'm gonna just step away.

Speaker 2 Like, I, I, I, I definitely know that if I were to play that on stream,

Speaker 2 I would have spent the rest of the time I played in that one area and never pushed through it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because it was so much, and I was like,

Speaker 2 Okay, um, yeah,

Speaker 2 but with that said, that's kind of like people love that. That's like a personal thing for me, so I don't even know that's a negative to have like a giant area in your game, to be honest.

Speaker 2 But I, everything else, loved. I love the conversations.
I love talking with people.

Speaker 2 I love that all the characters had their own sort of like not just personalities, but also biases, depending on who you were or like what, you know, things would be like, I like there being a payoff to your choices in like conversation and in how you're treated and yeah yeah like there's like a great example is there's a guy who uh you kind of like start the game with and he is very new but if you keep hyping him up he becomes awesome like like because he'll be like yeah i didn't know what to do in this situation you're like hey man you did the best you could do that was awesome and he's like thanks it's like bing he'll remember this and he like right gets more um

Speaker 2 comfortable comfortable with himself as time goes on however there are options it's like you messed up you suck and i wonder what that would do to him

Speaker 2 you know some there's a lot of that it feels like one of those games that you could probably have a ton of playthroughs in and enjoy this is a game that i'll play through exactly once because it's so big but yeah i've been i've been really enjoying it i can't even begin to tell you how far I'm in.

Speaker 2 I know I've spent roughly 10 hours, but it doesn't feel like I've scratched the surface at all. Feels like there's a lot to this one, and I'm enjoying it.
It's very fun. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Do you know how long a playthrough is meant to be in this game? I do not. I do not.
I would imagine this is one of those 40 to 80-hour games. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I just don't know. I will say that when I played a terrible, awful guy in the first one, that took me like 12 hours to beat.
Oh, like, okay.

Speaker 2 through.

Speaker 2 I absolutely destroyed it. It was great.
Okay. But that's because I can do it as a bad guy.
Yeah. This one,

Speaker 2 I think, because of the setup, you kind of like are on a path. I'm not sure what will happen with that path, but you're definitely on one.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 That sounds really cool. I never played.
Outer worlds. I never watched people play Outer Worlds.
So

Speaker 2 it has the like,

Speaker 2 there's like a silly aesthetic to it. Like it's space, it's the future, except like, here's a great example.
The intro cinematic that's like, we're the earth protectorate.

Speaker 2 And it's like, if you need us, we'll come and help you.

Speaker 2 And it's like, if there's an evil corporation taking over your sector, and it shows like a corporate guy, and then they run in the room and they punch him in the face.

Speaker 2 And it's like, if there's an evil government taking over your sector, and there's like an evil government guy, they run and they punch him in the face.

Speaker 2 And if the evil corporate guy and the evil

Speaker 2 government leader join together, we'll be there. They burst the room and then gun them down.

Speaker 2 And then at the end,

Speaker 2 they do a thing where they stand like, you know, the Earth, the Earth Directorate. We're here for you.
And then it does,

Speaker 2 depending on location, may take 10 to 6 months. You know, like that kind of thing.
Right.

Speaker 2 And so that's the vibe. It's like a lot of it's played silly, but they're trying to do like a serious story within that, which I think is pretty fun.
Do you feel like

Speaker 2 as someone who knows nothing about the first one, could I hop into the second one? Yes, absolutely. There is,

Speaker 2 as far as I know, the only connections that would matter really, truly is if you watched the secret level episode. Okay.

Speaker 2 The one where it's about like the guy and he loves that girl and in order to meet her, he like cuts off parts of his body in order to stay.

Speaker 2 Like he's like, I'll be the the test subject if I can be close to that girl yeah and then the girl kind of like becomes the next auntie right

Speaker 2 I'm pretty sure the girl in this game is that auntie I could be wrong but like

Speaker 2 that's oh interesting I think that's the only thing that really matters because the first outer worlds takes place in a different sector is a whole different thing oh totally different thing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 2 okay

Speaker 2 cool.

Speaker 2 Absolutely, you could enjoy this without playing the first one. But again, there might be some connectors that I just have forgotten.
But as far as I can tell,

Speaker 2 yeah, I mean, again, there are like a few mascots or things that you'd probably be like, oh, that's from the first one, but it doesn't matter, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Cool. I might check that out then.
I was honestly not on my radar, but I think

Speaker 2 enjoy playing a stupid run. The things that can happen when you go, I want every perk, but I'll take all these negatives are just

Speaker 2 that sounds like the way to go for sure. You'd be like, it's okay if I'm an idiot as long as my muscles are big, you know?

Speaker 2 Yes. Yeah, that sounds great.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Plus, the funny thing is, if you want to have like a real stupid experience, turn on easy mode.

Speaker 2 Go full stream. Yeah, there we go.
Turn on easy mode and just dumbboy your way around the galaxy. It is hilarious.
Yeah, that sounds great. That sounds very fun.

Speaker 2 Yes. There is, yeah, as someone chatted, the cracking knees is pretty awesome.
Yes. There is a moment where you can get such bad things where when you go into stealth and you crouch, your knees crack.

Speaker 2 And everyone goes, what's that? Like,

Speaker 2 it's incredible. It's, there's so many good, there's so many good things.
That's so funny. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's really good. I love that

Speaker 2 i really

Speaker 2 only played

Speaker 2 the only the only new thing that i could talk about uh that i played is uh slots and daggers just came out you said slots slots not sluts

Speaker 2 i thought you said sluts and daggers and i was like how did i miss this game sluts and daggers

Speaker 2 No, slots and daggers. It's another in the roguelike casino sort of universe.
It's really fun. I played the demo for this game and I think talked about it maybe when we were discussing demos.

Speaker 2 And I enjoyed it fine, but I wound up really liking it once it came out. Not because I think there was a huge difference, but because it built on itself really well.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 wound up buying it. It's a very like neutral palette pixel art sort of a thing.

Speaker 2 At the start of the run, you choose three symbols that you want to be your starting things in your slot machine so it could be like i want a shield so that i can get defense i want a sword and i want a healing item let's say and so

Speaker 2 you have like a certain

Speaker 2 trying to think of how to put this so basically you go into a fight so it'll be like here's the thing you're fighting it's on like a weird little screen You're like, here's the thing you're fighting.

Speaker 2 You roll the slots. It gives you the symbols.
And each symbol,

Speaker 2 the more powerful ones have mini-games. So like the healing items are like a wah wah wah sort of thing where you want to like stop it when it's at full blast.
You know, it's that that kind of shit.

Speaker 2 So every

Speaker 2 we all know that mini game. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So Every symbol that you roll, you get a benefit from. So you don't have to get like three in a row in order to benefit from it.
So, if you got like one Healy, you get a little bit of healing.

Speaker 2 One sword, you attack once. One shield, you get a little defense.

Speaker 2 But if you have three of something, so if I had three swords, it would be normal sword attack, normal sword attack, huge sword attack, right? So, the third one would do better.

Speaker 2 If you had like three shields, you would get full shield in the slot machine? Yes,

Speaker 2 okay,

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 so you could get one of each there's three openings at the start sure spoilers you can get more but at the start there's three openings right so you could get one of each when you stop it or

Speaker 2 you could get sword sword sword just like a slot machine and then you get a bigger value out of it does that make sense yeah oh yeah no we're good Yeah, so I just I wanted to make sure it was in the slot machine and not just like then I got swords and I was like, what the hell would you use that for?

Speaker 2 But all right, we're good. No, because each time you roll them,

Speaker 2 they have a result, right? So getting three of it, you get a bigger result. And you just go until you kill the thing.

Speaker 2 I think the reason that I wound up enjoying it so much is because there's like a lot of simplicity to it. It's literally, here's the thing you're fighting.
You go right in.

Speaker 2 You

Speaker 2 roll the slots. You can do it really fast or you can take your time with it if you want.
You could just just be like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, you know, and just go.

Speaker 2 Once the thing dies, you go into like a shop screen and you can get new things to put into your slot machine. You can get like a trinket that has a passive,

Speaker 2 whatever. And the more that you play, the more starting slot symbols you unlock.

Speaker 2 And so eventually you have like magic items and you can get things that buff your magic or things that do poison damage or, you know, whatever, and you can

Speaker 2 sort of figure out how to do a good build around that. It took me less time than I expected to get all the way to the end,

Speaker 2 but I really enjoyed the game.

Speaker 2 I'm realizing, so

Speaker 2 I was trying to figure out why ball pit is fun, but is not the sort of game that I was going to like

Speaker 2 turn on in my off time, really.

Speaker 2 Like, sure, you know, I was like, I enjoy this game, and I am playing it, but I don't,

Speaker 2 I'm quickly losing steam on it. And I was trying to figure out why, and I think the reason is because it's not one of these games where

Speaker 2 if I look away for a second, I won't die.

Speaker 2 Does that make sense? Understood. Yes.
Yes, you have to be like hyper-focused for that game. You have to be locked in for the entire thing.

Speaker 2 I really like, I'm realizing this about myself.

Speaker 2 The games that I want to play a lot when I'm doing other stuff or when I'm just relaxing are games like deck builders, where it's like, I chose my card and now it's going to resolve.

Speaker 2 And, oh, it's my turn again. I don't know.
Choose another card, right? Or like, I really liked this game because, again, it was like, here's a thing that you're fighting. Roll the slots, idiot.

Speaker 2 You know, I'd be like, oh, right, roll slots. The resolution happens.
He attacked me. Oh, cool.
I'm still alive.

Speaker 2 I'll roll slots, you know.

Speaker 2 And somebody out there is probably going to be like, but you can pause ballpit. You can.

Speaker 2 That's not the same, though, as just being able to just kind of look away from it and know that the game is going to be fine.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, I think this is, I wound up really enjoying Slots and Daggers, which I, again, wasn't, it's not that the demo was bad.

Speaker 2 It was just, I didn't get super engaged with the game until I realized the amount to which I could control my starting lineup of symbols and being able to have like a pool of symbols that I could choose from for my first three.

Speaker 2 I was like, oh, I'm seeing how each run can be really fun and unique, you know? Gotcha. While still maintaining the simplicity.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So it's, yeah, it's a good game. I like it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I am, I'm with you on that. I'll have have to try this because, yeah, I was giving ball X pit a go, and it's fun.

Speaker 2 I'm enjoying it a lot, but it's like, it's a, yeah, it's a little too like, no, you got to pay attention, or you will just die this run, and that'll be it for you. Um, it's very intense.

Speaker 2 I don't know why it feels so intense, but it feels like I am

Speaker 2 putting in work to get through those levels.

Speaker 2 When I play through like a mega bonk, for example, I think it's the same level of focus needed, but it does not feel as intense. And I think it's because

Speaker 2 with the ball pit, you're angling and bouncing and

Speaker 2 geometry. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And when you're playing like a vampire survivor-esque game, you're just, I'm moving and things are dying. And everything is good and things are dead.
It doesn't feel as intense.

Speaker 2 Okay, I'll start again. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I think maybe that's probably the difference. So I'll check out your slut game.
Yeah, check out the slut game. It's fun, I think.

Speaker 2 I think they did a good job with it. And I don't think that it's a bad thing that I got

Speaker 2 to the end within a couple of days because there is an arena mode that just goes on and on. So

Speaker 2 yeah, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 That's, I think, the only

Speaker 2 new game that I played, really.

Speaker 2 I swapped Silk Song to my day game. So

Speaker 2 I'm finally making some progress in Silk Song. As expected, I had hit a wall in Silk Song.

Speaker 2 And again, I won't spoil anything, but I hit a wall that I think people hit in well-made Metroidvanias a lot, which is where you're like,

Speaker 2 haven't I done everything? Why can I not progress right now?

Speaker 2 And then you start frantically backtracking: like, what did I miss? What did I overlook? What did I not mark on the map? Right.

Speaker 2 Um, and quickly found, I think, three different things, like huge areas that I did not find before, had not done. And I was like, this is great.
I love that feeling so much.

Speaker 2 Um, yeah,

Speaker 2 it's great. Uh,

Speaker 2 I will never forget playing through all of Hollow Night.

Speaker 2 The first DLC came out, and I was so excited to go back and find the DLC. I was like, no one, tell me, don't tell me who to talk to.
Don't tell me where to go. I'm going to find it, right?

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 I have 100% of the map. So spoilers, I had not 100% of the map.
And it was at that time that I finally found the hive in the first Hollow Knight game. And I was like, this has got to be the DLC.

Speaker 2 And chat was like, nope, that's always been there, buddy. You just never found it.
The first go-through

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 i love that though i love that i didn't have to find that to beat the game and then found it

Speaker 2 so long afterwards um and it makes it makes me wonder

Speaker 2 how much like how many of these things that i'm doing in silksong now are optional it's hard to tell currently you know like what things are necessary and what things aren't

Speaker 2 but yeah it's very fun

Speaker 2 for those of you who are playing

Speaker 2 i'm in act two still

Speaker 2 yeah i uh i'm not

Speaker 2 i am about 16 minutes into the game

Speaker 2 i'll play this later and i haven't come back so uh yeah but i want to i want to but i just have not

Speaker 2 people keep asking me when i'm going to play hades 2 I'm like, look, the first Hades is one of my favorite games ever, and I want to play Hades too. It feels so daunting to hop into that right now.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't, I don't know where to fit it into my life and my brain. I don't know where to put it.
I don't, I don't know. I have to finish soap song first.
I can't be doing both. I just can't.

Speaker 2 There is, there's so, like, I am flattered when people are like, Jesse, will you play this? Will you play this? Will you do this? I'm like, y'all, I got 24 hours, the same 24 you have.

Speaker 2 I can't do everything.

Speaker 2 I still have 85 other games I started and never finished. Like, I don't know what to tell you right now.
Like, I wish I could. I will do it.
I will do it. Check it out.
Yeah. One day.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 While we're talking about games, sure.

Speaker 2 I played a demo over on itch that is a game I want to come out so badly. I hope it does.
What is it? It's called Dead Format.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 it is about essentially your brother has gone missing. You go to his house and there are fake VHS tapes of old horror movies.
Okay. And this is so jessy already.

Speaker 2 The team that did it made real, like, old-timey movies. I love that.
For the VHS tapes. So they have a bunch of like actors, but it's just them doing the scenes.

Speaker 2 It's like one is an old black and white horror movie about a mad mad violinist who hunts down the people that stole his violin and kills them.

Speaker 2 And so like, it's so cute that they like have the guy and he's like, oh,

Speaker 2 and it's, you know, they have like the text pop up on the screen. They have one where the story is about a sewer and the sewer has like a creature that turns things into flesh.
Okay.

Speaker 2 And if you're flesh, it warps you.

Speaker 2 And so there's, and so you put the VHS in, and then one of the doors in the house opens and now you can go inside the movie and now you're like it's just so charming and I love it to death and I just wish

Speaker 2 more games did things like this. The problem is when games do take wild chances, I just want to again shout out Glitchbanker.
That game is the most Jesse-coated game that ever was.

Speaker 2 Dodger.

Speaker 2 Like there's a moment when I realized that that game was brilliant. Like brilliant.
And I know no, and like it's not on anyone's radar. It's not like it is like a remedy verse level game.
Right.

Speaker 2 There's a moment where you go into a club.

Speaker 2 A club

Speaker 2 created by

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 2 virus

Speaker 2 in order to hunt him down in the club. But they could have just done some music in the background.
It's like,

Speaker 2 no.

Speaker 2 either they themselves or they went out and hired people yeah

Speaker 2 they made several songs to play in the club and all of them are done in a way that is like singing about the virus spunk and one of them is like a flat out banger like completely it's literally a lot like like a like an up-tempo love song to this virus it is

Speaker 2 incredible and so you're going through this you're trying to like solve solve this weird mystery.

Speaker 2 It was super deep and super fun. And I'm so upset that like it is a phenomenal game.
And I'm just like,

Speaker 2 this is not on anyone's radar. It's just not on anyone's radar whatsoever.
And it's upsetting to me. I really, really, really am just like, please, everyone, play this game.
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 That's how I feel. is that kind of stuff where I'm like

Speaker 2 there's so many games

Speaker 2 that people just overlook because there's too many damn games.

Speaker 2 And it's like,

Speaker 2 it's so weird because, like, yeah, Glitch Banker is a concept.

Speaker 2 Doesn't look like it's anything. And then maybe that's, maybe that's its downfall.
And it doesn't look like it's going to be anything. But like,

Speaker 2 it's so good. In fact, there's one song that's literally like,

Speaker 2 you're my friend.

Speaker 2 My only friend. It's like a very Dodger song.
It's so funny. I can imagine you humming it.
It's like, friend to the end.

Speaker 2 You're my best friend. Like, that's.

Speaker 2 It's so well designed and so well done.

Speaker 2 And I'm just like tremendously upset. When I went online to go look and see

Speaker 2 what the reviews were, everyone was like, yeah, this is great. But there's like 36 reviews.
And I was like,

Speaker 2 how are not more people finding?

Speaker 2 It's because

Speaker 2 there's a million games games that exist. Yeah.
And games that are really, really good sometimes are completely lost.

Speaker 2 And it happens all the time. And it upsets me tremendously.
So this is one of those ones where I'm like, I will absolutely promote this all the time.

Speaker 2 And since you were brain up the fact that he didn't have time to play games, that's one of those things where I liked it so much I found time to play it. Yeah.
But that's how you know I love it.

Speaker 2 I was like, I'm prioritizing this.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 2 Nice.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 yeah, there's just so many games, so many games.

Speaker 2 What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do, man?

Speaker 2 I don't know,

Speaker 2 I don't know either, man. Yeah, has Jesse played dispatch? No, I was gonna wait till all the things came out.
I thought episode-wise, it was gonna take a while for all the episodes to come out.

Speaker 2 No, they're like three and four out today. I'm like,

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, all right, I'll get on that eventually.

Speaker 2 I'm in no way rush to play that game, I'm just not. I have 85 other games.
I have so many other games. I'll get to it eventually.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's fair.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 I don't have the mental fortitude. I was like, I'll wait.
I'll wait. I'll wait.

Speaker 2 Yep. Yep.

Speaker 2 Hey, you want to do some news? I got some news for you. I would love to do some news.
I was about to go and look because I realized I have a list of the release dates for all of the dispatch sections.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 basically, it's special. I can tell you when they're all out, but yeah, I think it's every week two more episodes come out.
So this week was three and four.

Speaker 2 I imagine next week are five and six, et cetera. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Anyway, hey, this is fun. I don't know what this means, but I think it's so funny.

Speaker 2 Microsoft CEO echoed comments from Xbox Leaderships that the company views its competition in gaming not as other gaming platforms, but short-form videos like TikTok.

Speaker 2 Wait, say that again?

Speaker 2 Let me just give you the quote here.

Speaker 2 Remember, the biggest gaming business is Windows business. To us, gaming on Windows, and of course, Steam has built a massive marketplace on top of it and done a very successful job.

Speaker 2 So, to us, the way we're thinking about gaming is, first of all, We're now the largest publisher after acquiring Activision.

Speaker 2 So, therefore, we want to be a fantastic publisher, similar in the approach to what we did with Microsoft Office. We're going to be everywhere on every platform.

Speaker 2 So we want to make sure whether it's consoles or whether it's PC, whether it's mobile, whether it's cloud gaming or on TV, we want to make sure that we are enjoyed by gamers everywhere.

Speaker 2 We want to do the innovative work.

Speaker 2 on the system side of console and pc and basically end of the day the console experience is unparalleled we've got that unlock it delivers performance blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 Most importantly, the game business model has to be one where we invent some new interactive media as well. Because after all, gaming's competition is not other gaming.

Speaker 2 Gaming's competition is short form video.

Speaker 2 And so, if we as an industry don't continue to innovate both how we produce and what we produce, we think how we think about distribution, the economic model, et cetera, best way to innovate, la.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I'm still trying to figure out what exactly that means because it sounds like my man's saying we need to put content on TikTok.

Speaker 2 I need to have games for TikTok.

Speaker 2 This doesn't inspire to me that they know how to do what they're saying they feel like they need to do, but we've talked a lot before about how Currently the business model for everybody is how do we monopolize as much of your time as possible?

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 And so everybody feels threatened by whatever is keeping you around more.

Speaker 2 They're like, okay, so we've got all these websites that are optimized to keep you there and keep you scrolling and never leaving. So how do we drag your attention away from that?

Speaker 2 Or how do we dip into this thing that you're attached to so that you're also doing our thing? But that doesn't sound to me like they know how to do that.

Speaker 2 They're just like, well, everybody else is obsessed with monopolizing your time. Everybody else is obsessed with using robots to keep you there as long as possible.
So we also need to do that. But

Speaker 2 I feel like there are plenty of games that have figured out how to monopolize your time.

Speaker 2 I, uh, yeah, I think

Speaker 2 that's the inherent flaw with everything Microsoft does.

Speaker 2 When we watched them try to make Xbox into the new cable box, do you remember that? That was insane. Yeah.
They are consistently trying to make their

Speaker 2 games using this to watch all of their sports.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And everyone was like, no, we won't.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 No. And then people got the Xbox and it wasn't good for anything.
Everyone kind of moved on. And that's why they're like, well, Xbox more than just a console now.
Xbox is like a lot of things.

Speaker 2 And you're like, Xbox is a liking. Because you guys failed to make it a thing.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's just so stupid. But yeah, I don't understand what their vibe is, but I get it.
I know, like,

Speaker 2 from a logical standpoint, I don't understand. From a corporate, we need to make the numbers go up for the next time we have to tell people what our numbers are.
I understand.

Speaker 2 But it seems insane that they'd be like, we got to make short form. content.
In what way? Would you be good at that? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 2 This is similar to a couple of weeks ago when we were talking about AI stuff and how a lot of companies, just to make the shareholders happy and feel like they're up on up, they'll be like, Yeah, we're looking into AI and we're going to totally figure out how to use AI.

Speaker 2 Don't you worry about it.

Speaker 2 We're looking into AI. In fact,

Speaker 2 the future is here and we've got a whole team doing AI. So

Speaker 2 this reminds me of that. This is like, you know what, TikTok? We're also doing that.

Speaker 2 We're also doing TikTok

Speaker 2 with games.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 No, it doesn't, it doesn't make a lot of sense, but it does. Again, that was the CEO.
So like, that's very shareholder speak of what that was. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Speaking of the corporatization of things.

Speaker 2 Yes. Apple has been appointed to the Game Awards Advisory Board.
The phone maker joins other major companies on the board, which will help guide the mission of the game awards.

Speaker 2 Okay. Cool.
Is that to try and

Speaker 2 incorporate more like business voices from the mobile end? Or what is that?

Speaker 2 Already they had Activision. AMD, EA, Epic Games, Kojima, Microsoft, Nintendo, Riot, Rockstar, SIE, Tencent, Ubisoft, and Valve were on the board.
So this makes the 14th member.

Speaker 2 And for my Final Fantasy XIV fans, we finally have a convocation. We are all 14 of the evil ones have gathered together.
Ah, finally. They don't show up in robes with little masks on.

Speaker 2 What are we even doing? Ah, so true.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 Basically, yeah, Apple is trying to get more of its iOS stuff out there. So I imagine we'll start seeing more sort of Apple things involved with the game awards.

Speaker 2 I don't know what it will actually mean, but they're part of the advisory board. And very much like how there's like a clear divide, like if people are wondering how the awards are

Speaker 2 decided, there's like a board. There's like a team of people who make the decisions and then they let you vote, but they count your vote as like one

Speaker 2 800th of a vote.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 Then it factors in there. So for the most part,

Speaker 2 it's kind of like all back end stuff. With that said, though, I think this says a little bit more about the game awards than it does Apple because Apple's late to the game.

Speaker 2 And I feel like because the Game Awards year over year over year has done better and better and better,

Speaker 2 I imagine Apple was like, we need to actually be there.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if that means that Apple gave them money.

Speaker 2 or what, but, you know, it's that kind of thing. Yeah.
So

Speaker 2 yeah, I'm not, this isn't me saying that people are buying the awards.

Speaker 2 This is me saying that there's just a background of like journalists and executives and people who vote and they don't have the same taste as a 13-year-old.

Speaker 2 So if you're ever like, well, this isn't, my game didn't win and I hate this.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 the Streamer Awards is better. False.
The Streamer Awards have a group of people that are all friends who vote. There's no difference.
What are you talking about? It's the exact same thing.

Speaker 2 It's a bunch of friends who run the streamer awards and they vote for who they want to win. There is not a single objective award out there in the world.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 What do you mean? Like, that's like, come on now.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, interesting. We'll see.
But

Speaker 2 I'm excited for the game awards. Hopefully, they bring back my two favorite Muppets to Raz

Speaker 2 Jeff Keely again, because that was the best part. Absolutely.
And then, in absolutely sad news for MMO RPG fans, New World, the Amazon-led MMO is being shut down. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I guess it's going to remain online through the end of next year. But as of right now, the Nighthaven slash Season 10 stuff is it.

Speaker 2 That's it. They laid off, I think they said

Speaker 2 14,000 people at Amazon.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 The statement was after four years of steady content updates and major new console release,

Speaker 2 we've reached a point where it's no longer sustainable to continue supporting the game with new content updates.

Speaker 2 In the coming months, we'll provide more details and what to expect, but that's that's pretty much it. They're like, we're going to keep it online through 2026.

Speaker 2 And that sucks because I know a lot of people were looking for a video game home, looking for a place to be. And

Speaker 2 yeah,

Speaker 2 it's gone now. That sucks.
I will say,

Speaker 2 it's crazy to me that we can exist in a world where they can say it's not sustainable to keep that game running, but Bezos can have like $400 billion.

Speaker 2 Bro, I just,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 2 Just crazy to me.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 he's got there are people who work at Amazon who are scared of losing their snap benefits, but

Speaker 2 Bezos has $400 billion. Like, I just, the whole thing seems out of whack.
Yeah. The distribution of wealth at Amazon maybe

Speaker 2 could stand a closer look.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, if they're going to pump it, keep the game going a little bit longer, you know.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's like if they would have actually taken the time to promote it and do stuff with it. That's the big thing.
That's what I was going to say, right?

Speaker 2 It's like, I think some people thought that it wasn't still around anyway. Because you never see anything about it.
And it's not like,

Speaker 2 like you're saying, it's not like they couldn't move stuff

Speaker 2 around. They have more money than God.
They couldn't promote the hell out of that. They could have put ads everywhere.

Speaker 2 Literally, Warcraft was like, hey, let's get a bunch of celebrities to do Warcraft ads in the early 2000s.

Speaker 2 And they would release those every so often to remind people it was a thing that was happening.

Speaker 2 This game came out. They paid a bunch of people to play it.
And then

Speaker 2 they absolutely dropped off. The minute they stopped paying people to play it, people like went off and did their thing.
And then, like,

Speaker 2 I never saw these.

Speaker 2 You never,

Speaker 2 because we've

Speaker 2 heard stuff like this before, right? Where it's like, okay,

Speaker 2 what's the initial reception to it? The initial reception was bad.

Speaker 2 Then we're not going to put more money into it. Sure.
Which is crazy when we're living

Speaker 2 in

Speaker 2 the now times where we have so many examples of games that started off with poor reception

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 with a closer eye and a good team and good leadership, turn it around, right? Like,

Speaker 2 yeah. And

Speaker 2 it could have been a cool thing.

Speaker 2 The two biggest,

Speaker 2 like the

Speaker 2 No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk had terrible launches. Yeah.
And within a couple years, had the biggest numbers anyone had ever seen.

Speaker 2 Like they were massive hits later on. Final Fantasy 14.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and this is one of those. Love.
This is another game I think. Yeah, absolutely.
Games have, like,

Speaker 2 I don't know, man. It doesn't make a lot.
I thought it was getting a lot of good people. I don't want to say reviews.
I didn't see any reviews, but like good word of mouth.

Speaker 2 That people really liked the game and they were really excited. And they were like, yes, New World's so much fun.
I'm enjoying it a lot. This is great.

Speaker 2 But, you know, me, I'm like, I'm a one M.O. person, guys, and I'm going to pick the one that is the most casual.
So, like,

Speaker 2 I'm fine.

Speaker 2 But, yeah, people,

Speaker 2 I don't know, man. It seems weird that people would just,

Speaker 2 I guess it's not the people playing it. It's the company that ran it, decided it wasn't worth it.
I would love to know what the numbers were. Like, what was the this isn't worth it for us number?

Speaker 2 Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 2 But.

Speaker 2 Wait, are the 14,000 people that were working on the game?

Speaker 2 Amazon said it was going to eliminate 14,000 corporate jobs. Many of those were in game development and publishing.

Speaker 2 That's bombing.

Speaker 2 So many people.

Speaker 2 The San Diego and Irvine studios, which are responsible for MMO's New World and an untitled Lord of the Rings game, have seen significant reductions, according to Steve Boom, Vice President of Audio, Twitch, and Games.

Speaker 2 Okay. Apparently, they're still working on the next Tomb Raider with Crystal Dynamics and Mavericks Games' new open-world driving game.
But other than that, that is, yeah, that's

Speaker 2 that sucks.

Speaker 2 I just looked over at chat and saw someone say, I've failed to save the burning crotch man dozens of times.

Speaker 2 Reload.

Speaker 2 That seems like a you problem.

Speaker 2 What do you mean? Reload.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Who played that guy? Anyway, sorry.

Speaker 2 Someone with a dick worth setting on fire, you know?

Speaker 2 Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So absolute mess in the gaming industry right now. Always has been.
Seems every week it's like, ah, well, still pretty shit out there.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 support your indie games. It's what I say.
For real.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And hopefully everybody who's now looking for a new job in the game industry finds

Speaker 2 yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 2 yikes

Speaker 2 anyway that's that's the news what the fuck why was so much of it depressing it's midweek we haven't had time to do any of any good stuff god that's so true

Speaker 2 it's hump day though it is so there's that some good things could happen tomorrow maybe

Speaker 2 we're over the hump now so it's smooth sailing

Speaker 2 right, guys?

Speaker 2 We're zooming towards Halloween. We have to have some good stories post-Halloween,

Speaker 2 sure, yeah, sure, sure,

Speaker 2 sure,

Speaker 2 right?

Speaker 2 Sure.

Speaker 2 Well, that's our show, guys.

Speaker 2 Thanks so much for watching.

Speaker 2 Yikes.

Speaker 2 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 when you do your

Speaker 2 Cox and Crendor Scary Game Squad

Speaker 2 power hour thing,

Speaker 2 is that one night only, Chicago?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it's already sold out. So you can't even come if you didn't get your tickets.
I was more curious if you like do it in a couple places.

Speaker 2 Chicago. It's one night, same place it always has been.
It's right there. You get all of us in one night and we blow your mind and then we send you home.
Spent and used up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Fantastic. I hope everybody that's going to that show has a fantastic time.
What else is up with you before next Friday? I mean, right now I'm literally like gonna

Speaker 2 try and

Speaker 2 I don't know, man. I'm not gonna do shit.
Let's not pretend. I'm going to, I'm, this is like a micro vacation for me.
I'm gonna leave. I'm going to Chicago.
I'm going to walk around the city.

Speaker 2 I'm going to eat a weird pizza, maybe a hot dog. I'm going to do a show.
I'm going to come back. And that's it.
I have no intention of doing anything. And then next week is next week's problem.

Speaker 2 That's November's problem. That's a whole month away.
I ain't got time for that. I'm focused on the next few days of me doing nothing.
And I am excited. So

Speaker 2 fantastic. I'm happy.

Speaker 2 What are you up to?

Speaker 2 I, well, I'm doing the Halloween thing, you know, but next week, I'm actually going to be in america what i know but in the in the deep south to visit my brother who just had a baby i'm gonna be an auntie for a few days helping out my brother

Speaker 2 wait your brother famous in the uk lives in the south yes

Speaker 2 i never would have guessed

Speaker 2 i thought he lived i thought he lived in the uk i've only ever seen him or heard of him in the uk isn't that weird yeah my yes very shameless plug for my brother uh jared lawson he's a musician and for some reason his music took off in the united kingdom and he was virtually unknown in america for the most part so his first like tours that he did were just like in england because

Speaker 2 he was like they all of my music out there i must i must stress to you at your wedding, when you're like, oh, my brother's going to perform, I was like, that's so cute.

Speaker 2 I had no clue he was a actual star. Blew my mind.
Yeah. But again, I've only ever seen him in the UK or heard him in the UK.
So you being like, oh, I'm headed to the south to go hang with him. Right.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Blows my mind.
Because we went to that bar and they were playing his music in the bar. And I was like, what the fuck? We were in the bar.
And you literally were like, is that my brother?

Speaker 2 And then we realized it wasn't just playing one song. It was the entire album.
Yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 2 Anyways.

Speaker 2 But yeah, he lives in the South and

Speaker 2 just had a baby. So I'm going to go meet my new niece and help them out for a couple of days.
My mom's going to be there too. So I get to hang out with my mom.

Speaker 2 But yeah, that's my big thing next week.

Speaker 2 Good.

Speaker 2 Good, good, good. Will you be here next Friday?

Speaker 2 I was going to say, so I'll, I'll chat with you about what our options are for Geek Unders, if we can move it, or if we need to skip next week, or if you want to have Crendor on just the two of you, or

Speaker 2 you know.

Speaker 2 But hey, if you enjoyed this Geek Unders,

Speaker 2 you can listen to or watch all of the other ones on youtube.com slash Jesse Cox. We're also on all of the podcast sites.

Speaker 2 If you would like to go to all of our previous episodes that don't include Crendor and write

Speaker 2 when's the quarterly Crendor, you should have Crendor back on.

Speaker 2 We'd love that. Yeah, go to all of them.
No. Every single one.
Just make sure that somebody's got to mention it. And you guys are really slacking is all I'm trying to say.
So

Speaker 2 might as well go to every single Geek Enders that we've ever done.

Speaker 2 You really should. You should go watch every single one, back to back to back.
Click the playlist, press play, and don't let go. Don't let go.
Let it play. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 2 Hey, gang. Have a safe and fun Halloween if you celebrate.
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