Episode 789 | "Good Mouth Skin"

4h 19m

The JBP returns to their studio in the latest episode as Joe begins with sharing the story behind his recent absence (24:00). The crew then dives into the Fox Sports lawsuit involving Skip Bayless, Joy Taylor, & others (1:07:22) which leads to a topic on sleeping with your coworkers (1:46:00) and power dynamics in relationships (1:59:00). In new music, the room shows love for The Ball Brothers and their new ‘Tweaker’ record (2:16:55), Joe & Ice share their thoughts on Drake’s ‘Fighting Irish’ Freestyle (2:20:55), and Lil Baby’s new album ‘WHAM’ (2:39:45). Also, who have you been honored to share your time on earth with (3:02:44), Catch Steak has permanently closed locations in LA & NY (3:07:30), Squid Game Season 2 (3:21:44), and much more!

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Sleeper Picks:  

Joe | Lloyd - “Player’s Prayer”

Ice | Albee Al (feat. Jadakiss, Freeway, & Benny the Butcher) - “Hood Olympics (Remix)”

Parks | Bad Bunny - “NUEVAYoL”

Ish | AremitRo$ - “U & I”

Melyssa | Hablot Brown - “MINUTE” 

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Runtime: 4h 19m

Transcript

Speaker 1 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 1 I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real.
No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,

Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.

Speaker 1 Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.

Speaker 1 We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

Speaker 1 Enjoy the show. Hey, we might have to press the button.
What's the problem with y'all? My question to the room:

Speaker 1 Is anybody going to combat the Mark and Mel tandem on

Speaker 1 the Joy Taylor Fox sports story? And that's the fucking problem with our people, man. Right? Already, out the gate.
Out the gate.

Speaker 2 Doesn't even know what we're going to say.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no. Before Out the Gate, like when the news broke,

Speaker 1 I thought about Mark. Most of the gate and Mel.

Speaker 1 Out the gate. I said, oh, right.
At the gate.

Speaker 1 I think I know what y'all what y'all gonna say. I think you underestimate me, sir.

Speaker 1 Who do you think gonna say what we think they're gonna say? Mel, not Mark. I think Mel gonna say it.
Mel Pussy, because she gonna want to, she want a job at Fox. So she's joy!

Speaker 1 Hey, Joy, it's me. I understand, girl.

Speaker 1 I can't understand

Speaker 1 the world

Speaker 1 being a woman. Mel's gonna pry up, ma'am.
Working in male-dominated spaces. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Having to curb your femininity. Sorry, man.
I'm shocking.

Speaker 1 For the security of men that may not be as qualified as you. Sometimes you have to

Speaker 1 dumb yourself down. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I know a thing or two about that.

Speaker 1 Are we off? We off. I escaped it.

Speaker 2 I feel like a little bit, yeah. I wasn't gonna say any of that shit.

Speaker 1 Let's go, Mel. Exactly.
Teach the niggas, man. I wasn't gonna say any of that.
Nigga, we'll fuck 1.5. You got bigger offers and turned it down.

Speaker 2 Listen, stop.

Speaker 1 Just stop.

Speaker 1 Stop.

Speaker 2 Get me in fucking trouble.

Speaker 1 Anywho.

Speaker 1 All right, y'all on bullshit. I already see it.
I love it. I'm with bullshit, but in 2025, and I am approaching this like our first pod in 2025.
It is, kind of, it is. It's mine.

Speaker 1 Happy New Year, everybody. It's mine too, I think.
It is. It is, right?

Speaker 1 Happy New Year. Hey, Corey.
Pim, pim, pew.

Speaker 1 Yo, I have so much shit. Oh, they stole my voice from me.
I have so much to say.

Speaker 1 Parks and Corey.

Speaker 1 Wait, what we did.

Speaker 1 Vacation. We only heard from you.
We have heard from this one. Parks and Corey, yo, and Rem and Gino.
Don't forget all the cool conspirators.

Speaker 1 Yo. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 What a time. Oh, I can't wait to tell you all about it.

Speaker 1 All right. Let me make sure, you know what I mean? My seat is...
Make sure everything feels the same. Get these fucking lotto tickets.

Speaker 1 Enough, Ian. Ian, it's over for your little Hootinan games, you show.

Speaker 1 Mark was very happy that those lotto tickets were filled. So happy.

Speaker 1 Nobody was happier than Mark. Mark's whole day got better.
Yeah, that's horrible.

Speaker 1 Oh, I mean, Mel was happy too. I'm sitting.
She texted me

Speaker 1 with like seven exclamation points, which hasn't happened in a long time. That's how it beats.
When's the last time she texted you with all the misclamation points?

Speaker 1 When she said, I'm glad you're coming to the show. She was like, I'm glad you joined in the show.

Speaker 1 Two steps ahead of you now.

Speaker 1 That boy is good.

Speaker 1 That nigga Chad stepped crossover real fast.

Speaker 1 We might be getting this back. She texted you with exclamation points and said what? It was fake.
The video was fake.

Speaker 2 It was not necessarily enjoyment.

Speaker 1 It was like shock.

Speaker 1 Oh. She's trying to play good defense.

Speaker 1 She's not the greatest.

Speaker 2 I didn't see that.

Speaker 1 She didn't say she was happy. I just saw the exclamation points.
I was joyous.

Speaker 1 The hater hopped out of you both, and I enjoyed it. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 To the fullest. What? On camera, in HD.

Speaker 1 I wasn't hating. No, no.

Speaker 1 You can say,

Speaker 1 there's a difference. I've been thinking this through.
I bet you have. He wasn't thinking about your emotions.
Yeah. That's what adults do.
We think through our emotions. We process.
We reflect.

Speaker 1 I was jealous, but I wasn't hating. Hating is like,

Speaker 1 I don't want you to have it either.

Speaker 1 Jealous is like, damn, I wish I had that too. Hey, bro.
Bro, big bro. You just said talk about it.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 You took off running and called your wife mad.

Speaker 1 I wasn't mad. Nigga.

Speaker 1 Not when you won.

Speaker 1 I was like, yo, I swun. That's crazy.
Then when it was like, well, Ish won too. Ish won.
Because she was like, wait, it was five people, two tickets, and you didn't win either of these.

Speaker 1 You bum ass nigga.

Speaker 1 Yo, dog, you just said I was so happy when I found out they were fake.

Speaker 1 I'm joking. I'm being tongue-in-cheek.
No, you're serious. You're dead ass.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't have told you.

Speaker 1 The exclamation points. I was like, yes.
Listen,

Speaker 2 I would say that you were ambivalent.

Speaker 1 No, I was worried ambivalent. Mel, you get the fuck out today.

Speaker 1 In 2025, I don't want to hear them words. I don't want to hear no big words in 2025.
I ain't going to hold you. Ambivalent, yo, ass the fuck out of here.
If you're going to start that shit today.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Oh, man.
All right. All right.
Feeling good, feeling great. Yes.
Mic check, mic, check. The levels, the levels, the levels, the levels, the levels

Speaker 1 are good.

Speaker 1 got a new laptop these buttons hit fast as hell

Speaker 1 struggling

Speaker 1 the same shit you played for the last oh you didn't see that as soon as I opened the laptop up started playing 50 Cent yeah that laptop needs to go it was over

Speaker 1 I had I had its run

Speaker 1 on on

Speaker 1 drop sound and Chris hey y'all my nigga you be smacking the laptop around like y'all having sex and I smack niggas around what's up

Speaker 1 Smack niggas around. That's the point.

Speaker 1 Don't start this shit, y'all. Don't start this shit.
Come on, 2025. Don't start this shit.
I don't even remember the last time I got smacked. Oh, there you go.

Speaker 1 Get your last word out. Yeah, I know.
Get the last word. But you've been smacked? Yeah, what? Yeah.
I remember the last time. I remember the last time I got smacked.
No, really? Actually, I don't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, shout out to the doctor. I might have got smacked.

Speaker 1 I got shit for bullshit.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the doctor.

Speaker 1 I see that bronze You never had a fight before, right? What?

Speaker 1 You did?

Speaker 1 I'm not trying to be funny. I'm asking.
I'm asking you a question. My next one could be today.

Speaker 1 You never had to do it. Your first fight.

Speaker 1 Your first fight.

Speaker 1 Your first fight. Niggas I'll play with you.
You ain't never had no fight.

Speaker 1 Why do you think I ain't never had a fight?

Speaker 1 Because his whole thing. Some people never had fights before, fam.
Why do you think I haven't, though? He must have fought his brother. Talk to me.
Why do you think I haven't?

Speaker 1 You told us you got picked up and dropped off everything. That hasn't You're not going to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, niggas. I do that.

Speaker 1 He back in the fight before his driver arrived. He could have had it sometimes.

Speaker 1 In the hallway, nigga, I saw that driver, nigga. Yeah.
Niggas make fun of you for having shit like that. You fight.
The niggas that got dropped off at school. I had to have a little scrap.

Speaker 1 When niggas tried to take their little lunchbox.

Speaker 1 You know, I used to have some fly lunch boxes. Zach's man.

Speaker 1 He ate the gold shit, yeah.

Speaker 1 I said, or

Speaker 1 or what? Or what, man? Nigga ate your fruit snacks.

Speaker 1 You think that nigga at the chunk chunks? You just took it, right?

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, today, hey yo, today.

Speaker 1 You got Bravo chips? Give it, give it.

Speaker 1 Bravo. Bravo chips.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Hey, your fruit snacks. All right, feels good to be back.

Speaker 1 Feels good to be back. Good to see everybody.

Speaker 1 Y'all looking good. Y'all smelling good.
Fans, we appreciate you. Let's get to it, man.

Speaker 1 Woo!

Speaker 1 New laptop got shit sounding crispin' ass. You got a little better converters than you.
Yeah, I ain't gonna hold you. Hey, y'all, y'all look better.

Speaker 1 Bop, bop, nigga. This is.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Don't teach him nothing.

Speaker 1 Don't teach him nothing.

Speaker 1 Him and Jamel Hill never heard this. So you got ice like this.

Speaker 1 Mark like this.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 1 What's that? This is your Jersey skin. Mike Shaq, one, two, one, two.
Mike Shack, one, two, one, two.

Speaker 1 Treat me right.

Speaker 1 I'll keep it to you. Nah, this laptop got some crack in it.

Speaker 1 I can hear this shit sound like a little bit. I can hear this.

Speaker 1 Y'all mean shout out to wherever you might be listening from.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the first and last time listeners out there. Always for the ladies.

Speaker 1 Always, always for the ladies.

Speaker 1 Big and four in the building, huh? Fuck it talk about.

Speaker 1 shout out to the haters out there

Speaker 1 Wherever you might be listening from all over the world Big jersey big jersey

Speaker 1 Yeah

Speaker 1 This when I get up from the bar start shaking make eye contact with her

Speaker 1 Hell, itch hate me cuz he don't he don't know how to hold a night turn off Let me shoot at this Let me shoot up my man real quick

Speaker 1 Let me shoot up my man real quick cuz he walk around holding this water waiting He's doing the cute guy shit waiting for the girl to see I get up gaze, nigga.

Speaker 1 Alright, man.

Speaker 1 All the hoods in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 New York City, what up, what up, what up, what up? What's up?

Speaker 1 Mark ain't got no moves. I saw it.

Speaker 1 Mark don't know this song. This is the first time hearing it.

Speaker 1 So happy to be here with y'all today.

Speaker 1 Mark, go get you. Go to Starbucks.

Speaker 1 Go get yourself something to drink, man. A little toothpick medicine bothering you.
Hold up, man.

Speaker 1 Hold up now. Fuck they talk about.

Speaker 1 Boston, Connecticut.

Speaker 1 Whole DMV, what's popping out there?

Speaker 1 Carolina, what's going on out there?

Speaker 1 Atlanta, Alabama, Chicago, what's popping out there?

Speaker 1 Detroit, what's going on out there?

Speaker 1 Wake it up, wake it up out there.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised to see your suit.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 She called Jersey shit.

Speaker 1 Wait, what would you say?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Yo, don't talk no more because

Speaker 1 I know what y'all niggas do. What?

Speaker 1 He said this skate was. I didn't know y'all skated in Jersey.

Speaker 1 Cause y'all just stole cars.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 What Philly niggas did?

Speaker 1 Shoot people and took their shit out of them.

Speaker 1 See, I should understood

Speaker 1 them.

Speaker 1 You should have mad at them all about, you know who we mad at them about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, shout out to everybody.

Speaker 1 It was outside this weekend.

Speaker 1 Rock car was popping, boy.

Speaker 1 I could hear those words spoken at the stood.

Speaker 1 I stood. Making vows to the world.
All the subgroups out there, all the communities out there.

Speaker 1 I'm convinced that what is meant to be will be.

Speaker 1 Even the stars declare that you belong to me.

Speaker 1 It's not over between you and me.

Speaker 1 It's not over.

Speaker 1 I don't wanna, I don't wanna be free.

Speaker 1 Happy joy,

Speaker 1 No, man, put it on. Bizarre.

Speaker 1 Let me fix Mark up a little bit.

Speaker 1 Nigga came back. Let me get a bit more.

Speaker 1 I got a rock on the New Year's card.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 pew, pew, pew, pew.

Speaker 1 Get it.

Speaker 1 Life brings a chance. Oh, it's there.
You go,

Speaker 1 Mel. Who's doing this first right here? Who's this?

Speaker 2 Ralph Tresband.

Speaker 2 Big Mel. Let's go, Mel.

Speaker 2 You wasn't born.

Speaker 1 I was born at 87. Yeah, he wasn't born in 81.

Speaker 1 He was born in 87.

Speaker 1 Alright, man, time to get to it. Time to get to it.
But I'm letting this verse rock.

Speaker 1 I totally anticipate being here for a high second.

Speaker 1 Oh, it felt so good not driving to Queens this morning. Hey, come on.
I felt good driving here, not for nothing.

Speaker 1 Huh? I felt good driving here. Good.
I haven't driven in weeks. Good, good.

Speaker 1 And I won't be in the same,

Speaker 1 but you'll see this mine.

Speaker 1 Oh Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord.

Speaker 1 Do I even remember how to par?

Speaker 1 I don't know if I remember how to par, but we're gonna see.

Speaker 1 We gonna see. Keep this applause going.

Speaker 1 Microphone check.

Speaker 1 Microphone check. One, two.
What is this?

Speaker 1 best broadcast in the entire world

Speaker 1 so happy to be here with y'all today

Speaker 1 just fucking applause going god damn it

Speaker 1 oh flip and mel and mark mark mark mark all right what episode is this 789 welcome to episode 789 of the joe button podcast brought to you by fueled by, powered by, prize. Picks, prize, picks, gang.

Speaker 1 I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, oh my God.

Speaker 1 So grateful. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 So happy and grateful to the grateful.

Speaker 1 So happy to be with y'all today here with a few very amazing people to my right. You know, the fucking vibes, the beautiful, the highly intelligent, the loquacious, all that bullshit.

Speaker 1 Melissa Ford is in the building. Make some noise.

Speaker 1 Totally abandoned the origins of... bottom.

Speaker 1 Totally abandoned the origins of hot and bother. There numbers going through the roof now that she got with the program.
Come on now.

Speaker 1 Come on now. Wait, what are you doing out there now?

Speaker 2 I'm doing the same shit.

Speaker 1 No, she's

Speaker 1 doing

Speaker 1 the exact same shit. Not at all.
Yes, I am. Hot and more wearing less.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
That little trampoline shit.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, you know, it's a bone density.

Speaker 1 Don't do that again.

Speaker 1 Don't relate it to bone density. That's hate.
Just jump on the trampoline. That's hate.
And talk about the weed shit without talking about Perry Mina.

Speaker 1 Hey, to her right.

Speaker 1 To her right. Y'all know the vibes, huh? You seen them on TMZ.

Speaker 1 You seen them. You seen the boy.
Yeah, I know. You seen him big TMZ in the house.

Speaker 1 Yo, so many calls. How did you get that TMZ? Huge your text?

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, you know, y'all niggas is so washed up.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say that. They called me.
I'm Queens Flip, nigga. They reached out to me.
They reached out to my mom. My mom called me and I called Ian.
Big Queens Flip is in the building.

Speaker 1 Queens get the money

Speaker 1 to his right. Clap with me, nigga.
Hold up.

Speaker 1 Clap for me, nigga. I was about to ask you.
Take your hands out your fucking sweat and clap. I was about to ask you what you did on TMZ.

Speaker 1 Talked about your man.

Speaker 1 Negatively? Negatively? Come on, no. Help, no.
Nah, he gave a perfect answer. Yeah.
But you know, you know, these niggas, we're going to get to it later. Yeah, we'll get into it later.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 King Waiwa, Elizabeth, Elizabeth's finest.

Speaker 1 Big issues in the building.

Speaker 1 You going bald again, but you good? Every time he goes bald again, he try to grow his shit out.

Speaker 1 He tried to do the S-Curl shit.

Speaker 1 He tried to bring the S-Curl, man. Everything gets around this time of the year.
He gets stressed.

Speaker 1 The summer, it cools down for him. This shit backwards, nigga.
This shit backwards. Gotcha.
Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building with us.
Thank you. Got the crispy pants on, nigga.

Speaker 1 This nigga will not let no air flow through his pants. Never.

Speaker 1 We've got to cool it down.

Speaker 1 I'm not feeling good, man. I got a crazy toothache.
Just got over a cold, man. It's been the nightmare since you've been going to the bottom.
You keep that nigga sick, Mark.

Speaker 1 You got me sick last time, man. What's your sick? You got me, I call it.
I got you. I got the nova from you.
The Nova shit. That next week, yeah, I got real sick.
It's daycare. It's daycare.

Speaker 1 The dirty ass cat.

Speaker 1 It's real. That's just real.

Speaker 1 I'm still about to pass that shit right on the yard. Took my doctor to the

Speaker 1 daughter to the doctor today.

Speaker 1 That.

Speaker 1 All the little kids fucked up. Respiratory shit.
All of them. Yeah.
And they still bring their nasty ass kids to the daycare.

Speaker 1 They got to go on that shit. Their parents got to work.
I respect it. Now, that's what I do now, too.

Speaker 1 I'll be like, I need you to be quiet for two minutes.

Speaker 1 Just don't call for two minutes. Give him some water, drop his ass right in the room, and run.

Speaker 1 I heard you talking early about the 800-milligram motor and how it would be having you woozy.

Speaker 1 I did not see it. Only one of us was.
Yeah, you was.

Speaker 1 Which was your woozy. Which was on brand.
Wait, what? All right, hold on. You got to back up.
You got to back up. Wait, what happened? You got action.

Speaker 1 The 800 milligram motor could be having your Iwoo too. You're not going to be having your Woozy.
No. Strong.

Speaker 1 That shit.

Speaker 1 That shit's strong.

Speaker 1 You be dizzy a little bit. Yo, I remember.
Don't lie.

Speaker 1 Can't drive on that one. I only got a perk of a bunch of music.
You said by the time the mom was being dizzy and disoriented. Hold up.

Speaker 1 I had an 800 milligram because I got a toothache.

Speaker 1 Did you just compare an 800 milligram to a perk? No, I was about to tell, though.

Speaker 1 That's some ice cream. The only time I ever had a perk, right?

Speaker 1 I had a different type of headache. I went to the doctor.
I got a perk for that. Yo, dog.
Yo, what the fuck? You ain't got your perk from me? No, listen.

Speaker 1 Let me see you. I come home and I'm like, yo, dog, them niggas, they gave me the CAT scan, all that shit.
The whole room was spinning. This nigga was taking two and three.

Speaker 1 He said, I said, yo, how the fuck you just be walking around on perks? The room felt like it was spinning. That's wild.
No bullshit.

Speaker 1 For one perk? Yes, nigga.

Speaker 2 Half a perk.

Speaker 1 That shit 30 or something? I don't know what the milligrams was. I just know I came over.

Speaker 1 Ask this nigga, how do he do it? He like, ish.

Speaker 1 You know, I give you that serious, low tone, ish.

Speaker 1 I have a high tolerance for drugs.

Speaker 1 For dealing with you too. Because that shit, yo, I swear the broom, the whole room was spinning, bro.
The good perks, too. Oh, so proud of myself.
King Keno gave me the good Molly on vacation.

Speaker 1 I threw it out. Oh, man.
I threw it out. Yo, what's up with you today? I might still be holding some of that shit.

Speaker 1 I didn't take it. Yeah, I didn't take it.

Speaker 1 I threw it out, but I was forgetting to throw it out.

Speaker 1 And it wasn't a whole bunch of garbage cans where we was at. So on the way out, I grabbed the Molly.

Speaker 1 I'll throw it out at the airport. Give it to the monkeys.
We don't get out.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Why would you give it to me? What is wrong with you? What you mean?

Speaker 1 Because my animal tested out there chilling.

Speaker 1 They be jumping from tree to tree.

Speaker 1 That's Peter. They're going to call Peter on you.

Speaker 1 I hear you. It looked like the good shit, too, but I just threw it out.
I changed. I changed.
You flew prime. You ain't bringing that shit back? Why didn't you bring it back?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I don't want to take it. I mean, give it to people who do.
I don't want to deal drugs.

Speaker 1 You're not dealing if you're not

Speaker 2 exchanging money for it.

Speaker 1 The drug dealer, I am. Listen, my luck is never the greatest.
I'll fucking deal some drugs and the nigga die.

Speaker 1 And now they come looking for me, talking about it was some fent in the Molly. Then I got a snitch on fucking where I got it from.
Because I ain't going to stand stand tall

Speaker 1 I'm not gonna stand tall at all. I respect the honesty big freeze in the building, huh?

Speaker 1 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Welcome back, Freeze. All right, a few things are changing in 2025.

Speaker 1 One, I don't want to hear nothing else about Mel's love life.

Speaker 1 That shit is bland and dry, and until it spices up, until she come in here and spice it up, I don't want to hear nothing about that dry shit. One.

Speaker 1 But more importantly, this podcast is not to discuss music while me and ice are not here

Speaker 1 it's over Corey you are under strict instructions press the space bar

Speaker 1 whenever they get to talking about music and ice and i now he didn't even know ice wasn't here last fucking part

Speaker 1 ice

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 he just do what he wants he act like he wants no no no no no no no

Speaker 1 he told us that i yeah they know they was talking about music when we was cool i didn't know that part i miss you i saw the clips i said no y'all did yes they they did.

Speaker 2 We tried to skate over as much as possible.

Speaker 1 Y'all slipped and fell right on the bus.

Speaker 1 Don't do, don't, the question of the business. All right, nigga, all right, we heard you, nigga.

Speaker 1 We heard you. We won't do it.
Big part. Am I

Speaker 1 big parts in the building? Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Corey is here. Poe is here.
Erickson is here. Ian and Keeb are here.
Savon and Tanner, I think, are still here by remote. Listen, I've been going.
I don't know who's here, who's not.

Speaker 1 And most importantly, each and every one of you guys are here. How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? What's on your mind, hearts, and souls? Talk to me.
Talk to me.

Speaker 1 Doing great. Feeling good, man.
Glad to be back. Word.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Glad to have some normalcy. Yeah.
It is good to be back.

Speaker 2 Feeling great, man. Accessibility shortcuts.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 This computer doing some shit.

Speaker 1 All right. All right, girl.

Speaker 1 Okay, girl.

Speaker 1 I was about to say that's the new Siri? Yeah. Nah, nah, that's.
You must have clicked the button too many times. Indiana.
I'm hitting a round of applause again

Speaker 1 in this piece so I'm back with my friends.

Speaker 1 Oh man, missed you guys. Missed you guys.
All right.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 where do y'all want to start? With you, New.

Speaker 1 Where the hell you're at?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 How do we do this? How do we do this here?

Speaker 1 Long story longer than it should be.

Speaker 1 So everybody here knows I have my sleepwalking.

Speaker 1 You talked about it on the pod. Incident.
Yes. Briefly, I mean, I said that I slept, I was sleepwalking somewhere that I shouldn't have been sleepwalking.
Yeah, true.

Speaker 1 So I'll expound on that a little bit. Some people here know, those of you out there may not know, for a few months now, I've been having an ongoing battle.
with this racist couple.

Speaker 1 He's Turkish, she's Russian.

Speaker 1 Are you saying nothing?

Speaker 1 I ain't saying nothing. He's Turkish, she's Russian, she's a Karen.
They have been doing all types of shit for

Speaker 1 months in terms of just complaining about

Speaker 1 noise and the smell and

Speaker 1 seeing black people and

Speaker 1 having to share spaces with black people.

Speaker 1 In my one conversation I've had with this lady,

Speaker 1 in an irritable moment for her, she said, you people will never change. Y'all just refuse to grow.

Speaker 1 I was alone, so I don't know who you people or y'all was. I took that to be, okay, this lady's racist, and that explains some of the behavior.
But that didn't stop.

Speaker 1 They've had me investigated by the building, who loves us here, by the way.

Speaker 1 They've had me investigated by the owner of the unit.

Speaker 1 They've complained about electrical outlets for my cars needing to be plugged in.

Speaker 1 They've complained about anything that you could possibly complain about for months.

Speaker 2 That's a lot of energy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I just be minding my business. So like if you're not in my, if you're not in my zone, then then that's it.
But everybody don't operate like that.

Speaker 1 So these people have been doing this for months. This has been ongoing while we've been recording.
And that's the door I sleptwalk to.

Speaker 1 That's the irony, too. That's the ironic piece.

Speaker 1 That's the door that I decided to sleepwalk directly to, butt ass naked.

Speaker 1 Normally,

Speaker 1 you know, you would think you knock on somebody's door, be like, hey, are you good?

Speaker 1 Got some sugar?

Speaker 1 I seen you over here. You was at my door with your dick out.

Speaker 1 But no.

Speaker 1 These people decided to misuse some of the systems that are in place for real victims.

Speaker 1 And they went to the police

Speaker 1 to file a report to say that Joe Budden was outside of their door masturbating

Speaker 1 on their door.

Speaker 1 And they don't know if I was there with the intention to R word her and her family.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 what would seem like a simple sleepwalking medical condition, no, turned into something much bigger.

Speaker 1 So I've been gone for a month having a, because I had a civil suit.

Speaker 1 This is my first time having like a civil suit. I don't know how these shits go.

Speaker 1 And it just so happens that the judge

Speaker 1 The judge picked every pod recording day

Speaker 1 to have the trial. So Tuesdays, Fridays.
So I understand that you fans were a bit perturbed, but sometimes you got to wait.

Speaker 1 And if you know anything about me, you know if I'm not at work, there's a reason that I'm not at work. That's a fact.
I love to work. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, civil suit.

Speaker 1 Got to go to trial.

Speaker 1 So I went to trial. And then the first day,

Speaker 1 she got up there,

Speaker 1 took the stand. Shout out to to the judge, too.
Before I even get into all that, there's a few people that I want to thank. I want to thank all of the people out there

Speaker 1 for all the love and support. There were so many of y'all out there that were sending me

Speaker 1 commercial filming spaces. Y'all were sending me warehouses.
Y'all were sending me abandoned buildings.

Speaker 1 People out there really, you know,

Speaker 1 for all the people, there's some people out there that hate.

Speaker 1 But there's a lot of love and a lot of people really showed up to try to, hey, any way I can help, if y'all need to use this space, as long as y'all need it, you can have it.

Speaker 1 So that's super, super dope. I want to shout out those people.

Speaker 1 I want to thank Prize Picks as well. Shout out to Prize Picks.
I preach all the time about how important it is to align yourselves with companies that don't

Speaker 1 That don't fret at the sight at the first sight of something that may look problematic. Mark has some experience there.
So I do want to shout the prize pics. Great people over there.

Speaker 1 Thank salute, salute, salute, salute. That's really important to me.
Really important,

Speaker 1 really empowering, really helpful.

Speaker 1 Wow, wow, wow, great, great. Shout out to Prize Picks.
Who else do I want to shout out? Who else do I want to shout out? I gotta shout. I gotta shout out the ops.

Speaker 1 I gotta shout out the ops.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas must have recognized that this was some medical shit and kept it low a little bit.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I would have had the same.

Speaker 1 I don't know that if a story came out about one of y'all sleepwalking, it, I would have done the same. But for the most part, it was quiet out there.
It was quiet out there.

Speaker 1 And the cop that put out that

Speaker 1 press release, that was clearly his first time in the content game. He did that shit on New Year's Eve.

Speaker 1 We was in Costa Rica like, man, give this shit two hours now.

Speaker 1 They got two hours to get their jokes on. Everybody gonna be out having fun, drunk.

Speaker 1 They tried to ruin the holiday a little bit.

Speaker 1 They tried it.

Speaker 1 They tried it.

Speaker 1 They tried it, but we was lit out there. We was lit out there.
But I do want to shout out

Speaker 1 prize picks, the ops, the people out there, the fans, the supporters. Y'all were extremely helpful in this very difficult time.
But anyway, so we go to court. All right, so we go to court.

Speaker 1 This is the fastest trial in history, too. Like, how did...
It wasn't fast to me. It wasn't fast to me.
I was displaced.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 I was displaced for over a month.

Speaker 1 So it wasn't fast at all. And every time I thought it would end, it didn't.

Speaker 1 I don't know nothing about this. So if you tell me, all right, come in on the 12th.
I'm like, all right, the 12th, we back. Hell no.

Speaker 1 She took the stand, got up there, a bunch of white girl tears,

Speaker 1 cried immediately.

Speaker 1 She got right to it. And you got to sit there.
You got to sit there and keep a straight face. Because the judge is watching.

Speaker 1 So you got to be like a human. You can't be like from hip-hop.
You want to be childish.

Speaker 1 No, this story gets funnier. I'll tell you when I wanted to be childish.
So she get up there and she does all the crying. Oh my God, I was in fear for my life.

Speaker 1 And my kids saw this.

Speaker 1 And to be clear, I saw some of the think pieces out there saying, oh, if you sleepwalking in front of kids, that that was horrible. No, this lady showed this video to her kids.

Speaker 1 So basically, I don't give a fuck about none of that.

Speaker 1 And then her husband took the stand, and then they were cross-examined, and that was day one.

Speaker 1 But what I learned is, and this is for stalking and lewdness.

Speaker 1 Stalking.

Speaker 1 Stalking. and lewdness.
How long was the video?

Speaker 1 How long was the video? 10 seconds.

Speaker 1 10-second video.

Speaker 1 But the stalking is from the day before. All of this happened, the third and the fourth.
Okay. Remember, we heard all that noise?

Speaker 1 It was irony that the day. We heard all that noise.
Niggas are throwing bowling balls on the floor. Yeah.
I went up there, stood there to see if I heard some noise, left.

Speaker 1 The very next day was a sleep-walking chair. Cool.
That was the end of day one. But for lewdness,

Speaker 1 you need to be

Speaker 1 naked with the intent to sexually gratify yourself, which is why she lied on that paperwork to say he was masturbating on my door, as if I can't find a million better places to masturbate than that.

Speaker 1 But if the shit is on record, that's a dumbass lie. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But go ahead, proceed. That's why you need a trial.
Because the whole time I'm saying, hey, we got a video. We can look at the video.

Speaker 2 Right. Like the buildings video.

Speaker 1 And the judge is like,

Speaker 1 well, everybody's on the hook now. So yes, the building's video, but they got their own video.
Like it's video now.

Speaker 1 Which is why she told that dumbass he's masturbating nobody doing, whatever the fuck she said. So anyway, that's the end of day one.
They asked her if,

Speaker 1 well, my lawyer asked her if she thought that I was fully erect in the video.

Speaker 1 You know what she said?

Speaker 1 She said yes.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 That's where you want it to be, childish.

Speaker 1 Right there is where you want to be. You was was tight.

Speaker 1 You was tight. You got to sit there.
You just got to sit there.

Speaker 1 You got to sit there

Speaker 1 with a straight face. Darkness.

Speaker 1 Martin be like, ma'am.

Speaker 1 I don't know what you used to.

Speaker 1 Helga.

Speaker 1 It's different around here, Helga. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Russian lady.

Speaker 1 Listen. Listen, Helga.

Speaker 1 Helga.

Speaker 1 So that was a big point of contention during this civil trial.

Speaker 1 Is he erect?

Speaker 1 He touched his penis in this video. So was that masturbating? She says yes.

Speaker 1 So then we got to wait till the next day we go to court. So we go to court again.
Now, me and my brain trust are trying to figure out, do we just call?

Speaker 1 my doctor to say like this is some sleepwalking shit. But if we do that, then

Speaker 1 he gets cross-examined.

Speaker 1 Then

Speaker 1 they're going to call an expert witness to rebut that. And this is going to drag this out for another few months.

Speaker 1 What's up? I mean, another few months. Pause.
Hey, yo, fam. Paul.

Speaker 1 I would have just hit the doctor like, yo, hey, Judge. No, I'd have hit the lawyer like, yo, this is a picture of me.
Hey, Judge,

Speaker 1 let me show you something, Judge.

Speaker 1 Yo, this is what this looks like. This is what it looks like versus that.
Now, look at that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 Yana, so I didn't want to

Speaker 1 drag it out. So I did not call my doctor to the stand.

Speaker 1 Call my girl.

Speaker 1 To the stand? No. You goddamn right.

Speaker 1 I snap

Speaker 1 torches.

Speaker 1 God damn right. I called my baby to the stand.

Speaker 1 Yes, you're nervous as hell.

Speaker 1 Stupid as hell on the stand.

Speaker 1 You got that lady.

Speaker 1 She probably. I didn't sign up.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Shot, Amen.

Speaker 1 That's a fire.

Speaker 1 She probably like, yo, nigga, I just want the 30 piece. I didn't sign up.

Speaker 1 That was 60. What I gotta say.
What I gotta say.

Speaker 1 That's fire. Yeah, no, I call my girl to the stand.

Speaker 1 Hello. Yo, yo, yo.

Speaker 1 What's up?

Speaker 1 I'm live on air. I'm talking about the amazing job that you did on the stand round.
Listen, I gotta give it up. Gotta give it up.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 Laura said,

Speaker 1 was he

Speaker 1 flaccid?

Speaker 1 She said, yes. Absolutely.
Absolutely, Russian bitch.

Speaker 1 Right, babe, tell them.

Speaker 3 They did. He was like, was he at all erect? And I said, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Hello.

Speaker 1 Hello.

Speaker 1 And they try to play my baby.

Speaker 1 Fuck they talking about. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Relax, nigga. Let them think it's small.
Uh-oh. I'm trying to tell you that.

Speaker 1 Yo, the video your shit was on shrimp. Yes, I'm a grower, not a shower.

Speaker 1 I got you on the video with the tiny meat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You turned Cole one of the bathrooms when he went to sleep.

Speaker 1 In that middle of town, nigga.

Speaker 1 So they asked her a few questions. I'm going to let you go because I know you're really busy, but tell my amazing college

Speaker 1 about

Speaker 1 me on the stand and the job you think I did.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 right after that.

Speaker 3 He is a big, strong black man, and that's how he comes off on the sand very confident and i kept trying to tell him stop being so goddamn confident because it comes she wanted me to cold switch

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 3 we are trying to make sure this goes the way we want it to go Hello? But instead, he's just him and he can't help it. His voice comes off strong as hell.

Speaker 3 The first question I was asked to him, he overpowered the entire damn room. Everybody looked at him like, what the hell? The deep ass voice.
Then it's in the mic. It was just extra.

Speaker 3 I'm like, this nigga, everywhere he goes, he just draws attention.

Speaker 1 No way, but then I remember where I was at. I said, and I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 1 I'm so embarrassed by this.

Speaker 3 They saw my naked body.

Speaker 1 I'm like, this.

Speaker 3 He did. He did.
They took some shots at him. They tried to.
They took shots at me.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, shit. Oh, yeah.
They did lawyer trying to get him.

Speaker 1 Hey, are you married?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Hold up, baby, hold up. They trying to get you to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 They asked her, are you married? She said, no.

Speaker 1 He said, is he married?

Speaker 1 Bitch, I play my baby. Bitch, I play my baby up.
Is he married?

Speaker 1 Like, you little bitch.

Speaker 3 It was like, but that's when the junk had right back. She was like, first of all, she answered your question.
Relax.

Speaker 3 He's not married. She's not married.

Speaker 1 And where's the rest? Yeah, let's let's move it along. Yeah, exactly.
But they send it to shots, they was getting shot. But that'd be that racial, stereotypical bullshit.

Speaker 1 Yep, you're right, ish to try to paint you looking like a heathen. You know what I'm saying? Fuck out of here.
All right, baby. Let me, I love you.
Let me finish tell these guys.

Speaker 3 You love you too, but why?

Speaker 1 So, anyway, the truth of the matter is, I'm a nudist, I'm a voyeur, I'm an exhibitionist. I don't give a fuck if somebody sees me naked for 10 seconds, but

Speaker 1 very embarrassed by this entire ordeal. and

Speaker 1 disappointed that. Yo, you're not in court.

Speaker 1 Fuck them. No, I'm playing, but yeah,

Speaker 1 I had to give him a little bit of that. But

Speaker 1 again, long story less long.

Speaker 1 Shit, I thought it would be over after that. Judge was like, I'm going to sit on this for the weekend.

Speaker 1 I'm going to sit on this for the weekend and come back to it. Again, I tipped my hat to that judge.
She was fair, reasonable. That's all you can ask for.
Like, heard all the testimony, was attentive.

Speaker 1 She wasn't on no bullshit.

Speaker 1 And she came back and was like, she gave a whole

Speaker 1 breakdown, like of everybody's,

Speaker 1 everybody testified, of their body language, their consistencies, their inconsistencies, the reasonability, the credibility.

Speaker 1 She did say I smirked a couple of times during the... during the thing, but that lady was getting some bullshit off.
It's like, lady. So I hit a couple of smirks, but that was the the end of that.

Speaker 1 And by preponderance of the evidence, kick rocks.

Speaker 1 Get out of here. Because then she got into what some of these things mean.
Stalking means by

Speaker 1 statute 8.25,

Speaker 1 two or more times where you have harassed, threatened, made somebody in fear for their life, a yada yada, all of this shit that didn't apply to me.

Speaker 1 So she was like, by preponderance of the evidence, no, I don't find that that is stalking. and lewdness

Speaker 1 in statute 6.423 says

Speaker 1 that you have to be

Speaker 1 nude

Speaker 1 where

Speaker 1 there's reasonable expectation for you to be seen. I wasn't seen.
That ring video means, if you see me through a ring door, that don't mean nothing. Like, nobody was in the hallway.
Nobody seen shit.

Speaker 1 And you have to

Speaker 1 be in the act of or trying to

Speaker 1 pleasure yourself. And she said,

Speaker 1 Mr. Button was not erect.

Speaker 1 Mr. Button was not masturbating.

Speaker 1 If y'all want to make jokes about my dick be a small, go ahead.

Speaker 1 I'm workshopping a few right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got the nigga finished. I got it.
Chinese shit's just one deck. Chinese shit, right? Look at you.
I'm glad that you added his story. Yeah.
This is the end of that. So she said, Mr.

Speaker 1 Button was not erect.

Speaker 1 He was not masturbating.

Speaker 1 The one time that he touched his penis, he appeared to be trying to cover himself. Mr.
Button was not trying to forcibly enter your, because that's what they say.

Speaker 1 He was trying to forcibly enter my place.

Speaker 1 But the video shows me trying to put a keypad in. It looked like I had to pee.
It looked like a 10-second video of me having to pee.

Speaker 1 She was like, he's shifting his weight from one leg to another leg as if he has to use the bathroom. He's not forcibly trying to enter.

Speaker 1 He was out there for a total of nine seconds. And it is for that that I find, yeah, no, it's over for that.
So, Mr.

Speaker 1 Button, please take the necessary precautions to make sure that this never happens again. Put the zap it on your door.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And all of y'all get the fuck out. Oh, they didn't even order you to do shit, though.
The order at the verdict?

Speaker 2 No. Yeah, because he found her not guilty of anything.

Speaker 1 Good shit. Well, she said,

Speaker 1 I'm going to wear pajamas.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 And you buy a couple dollars. You can get some nice ones.
like it's a real simple fix i'm gonna wear some boxer briefs to bed in the event that i take a stroll your

Speaker 1 hey let me tell you something you have my aunt catherine call me

Speaker 1 y'all have my aunt y'all made my aunt catherine leave wednesday night church service to call and say a prayer over the phone My aunt Catherine don't call me for none of this internet bullshit.

Speaker 1 She said, Joey, I seen some things.

Speaker 1 She said, Joey, I seen some things in the news I want you to know. We praying for your darling.
Come on, let's say a prayer right now. I love you all, Catherine.
You fucking motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 Y'all had the damn bartenders looking at me away before they handed me my juice

Speaker 1 when I went out.

Speaker 1 They gave me the juice talking about. I seen some stores.

Speaker 1 It was such a wild thing to have to answer to in the streets. Oh, really? You had to answer.
You had to. Yes.

Speaker 1 Nigga. Fuck you think happened to our phones? Fuck phones, nigga.
I walked in the barbershop 10 minutes after the shit dropped. Fuck.
I swear. They looked at me like.

Speaker 1 I was like going to the barbershop. That was your fault, though.
Why is that my fault? You walk in a barbershop with them jokes about to fly? Nigga.

Speaker 1 Nigga, you don't know what's going to drop and what the news is about to be flying.

Speaker 1 You ain't going to get a haircut? No, that's not true. Y'all had a month.

Speaker 1 Y'all had... Before the news went public, y'all knew my business.
We had lead time. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 That's not that press release going out that morning, my nigga. That's different.

Speaker 1 That shit went out, and I'm in the shout. They're like, yo,

Speaker 1 what up?

Speaker 1 Yo, man, just like, yo, my nigga, nigga, what's up? My family from downside. Everybody.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What they say, and what y'all said.

Speaker 1 I gave them niggas the emojis and put shaking my head. What the fuck you think? Thanks.
I ain't explaining that shit.

Speaker 1 Everybody that calls said, yo, tell your man put some clothes on. I just ignored them.
Yo,

Speaker 1 I'm at the New Year's party. I see Maino.
Yo, man, what up? He don't even say hi.

Speaker 1 Tell your man, put some clothes on. Like, this is the kind of shit niggas is dealing with in the streets.
The cop 02 called me. I'm like, yo, Johnny,

Speaker 1 yo, tell Joe, put some clothes on. I'm like, yo, I'll change the subject quick.
I'm not talking about that nigga. Freak-ass boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 I'm going to wear pajamas, man. There we go.
Wear pajamas.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 2 We got resolution. Maybe one of those collars that zaps you if you leave the eclipse electronic.

Speaker 1 She needs right into the toes of shit. Extra protection.

Speaker 2 You know, protect him from himself.

Speaker 1 And what about the sleepwalking part? Like, you got like some treatments or something? Yes. I'm going to take a sleep test.
Okay. I'm going to take a sleep test.
Okay.

Speaker 1 They tried me understanding with that. Oh, so you're sleepwalking, huh?

Speaker 1 Ever took a sleep test? Like, nope.

Speaker 1 It's like this doctor's note that you got. Your cousin works there, right?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yo, trial is kind of funny. But you can't laugh.
You cannot laugh.

Speaker 1 You can't laugh. But trial is caught.
I ain't gonna hold you. It was a very, it was a learning experience.
I was just happy. I was happy that.
Shit different than the doc.

Speaker 1 Trial funny when you come out on the positive side of it.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 this shit ain't funny if it go the other way. And think about this.
And it's civil.

Speaker 1 Imagine if the judge wasn't understanding.

Speaker 1 No, she said it. She said, this is one of the rare,

Speaker 1 this is probably the only case I've, one of the only cases I've seen where there's a video.

Speaker 1 When there's no video, it's your word versus their word. And that could go a little

Speaker 1 too different. Yes, it would have went a whole different.
A whole different? You get what I'm saying? They paint you as the big black scary man and we timid and afraid. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's what I was grateful for. I was grateful for the growth and the maturation part on my side.
Because, you know, sometimes, look, they'd have caught me 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 My response would have been rebelliousness

Speaker 1 and to act out and to really oh, that's what you think of black people and show you, but no, it wasn't it wasn't time for that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was grateful that I got to show

Speaker 1 like who I am in there, which is

Speaker 1 a human being as opposed to the rapper because rappers fit in a box. You know what I'm saying? Like

Speaker 1 black rapper rich braggadocious.

Speaker 1 And they think we don't have sense. They think we can't conjugate verbs.
They think we can't speak with concise thoughts, all of that shit.

Speaker 1 So, and you're an asshole, too, and the arrogance with the intelligence. It's like, all right, yeah, he a little different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 I was proud of myself. I was proud of myself.
That display shit for a month was a little annoying.

Speaker 1 But other than that, job well done. Again, thank you guys.
Thank you guys for holding it down for the month.

Speaker 1 I appreciate y'all. Boy, it was long.
Boy, it was long. But we bike.
Yeah, we got.

Speaker 1 But we bike. Can't wait to have my studio back.

Speaker 1 You're losing that bad time. I was like, y'all would like to have my studio back, though.
Damn, kicking us out. Get the fuck out.

Speaker 1 Never. Fuck out.
We can stay there as long as we want.

Speaker 1 The people might have known some people. They might have known a few people at the police precinct, but I know God.

Speaker 1 Your God don't play about you. Hey,

Speaker 1 y'all know some humans.

Speaker 1 I know God.

Speaker 1 I always tell y'all my God don't play about me. And good choice by you ops.

Speaker 1 That would have been a real bad move for anybody thinking that sleepwalking was going to be the thing that was going to put Joe Budden down for the cow.

Speaker 1 Some of y'all know I'm a little more resilient than that.

Speaker 1 Some of y'all, yeah, that just would have been bad. That would have been low-hanging fruit.
Y'all know. Y'all did.
Good choice. Good choice.

Speaker 1 And I'm glad. I'm grateful.
All praise due to IPO. Couldn't have done it without him.

Speaker 2 There's no civil recourse for the statement that the cop put out because that just seemed like a

Speaker 1 allegedly

Speaker 1 guilty, innocent until proven guilty. All that shit was in there.
So I think

Speaker 1 I get why they did that, though. Why? It makes sense.
It makes a lot of sense. You got to figure once the news hit and these internet detectives blowing their phone up.

Speaker 1 So now it's like, yo, we getting calls and people stopping by trying to ask all these questions. Yo, what's going on? What's going on?

Speaker 1 Let us put a statement out to address it. They probably ain't dealt with no shit like that.
Clearly. Let's put a statement out just to in their mind and we just put something out to address it.
No,

Speaker 1 I'm not rolling with that. I'm not rolling with that at all.

Speaker 1 The lewdness charge is fourth degree lewdness. Like

Speaker 1 without this civil shit,

Speaker 1 that charge was getting thrown at that. But they said that was getting the fuck out of there.
He addressed, I think they addressed that. I don't know the article about it.

Speaker 1 But wait, before the civil trial even started, I had a date for the criminal shit,

Speaker 1 which should have been one, two, three. They pushed that date.
Of course. They pushed that date.

Speaker 1 I also found a whole bunch of countercharges that mysteriously took over a month to get where they needed to be. So if you're asking me what I think, again, I feel like they know some people.

Speaker 1 Probably. Anyway, we recall.
The fact that that dropped New Year's on New Year's Eve.

Speaker 1 Four weeks after the incident says that there was a little bit of strategy involved. Well, no, I know the strategy.

Speaker 1 I know what the strategy is.

Speaker 1 The strategy was, yo, Uncle Murder got this wrap-up dropping. Let's make sure he knows so he can get his bars in there.
Uncle Murder, your thirsty ass was finished.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna hold you. That was fine.

Speaker 1 I would have did the same shit.

Speaker 1 I didn't even have no more beat left. He was done.
He was done. He went back in the booth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, throw this on there. Yo, your butt-naked ass was in the hallway walking up.

Speaker 1 I was listening. Like, I get it.
I I get it. Uncle Murder, man.
I get it. Shout out to Uncle Murder.
Shout out to Uncle Murder, man.

Speaker 1 Anybody else I need to shout out on my sleepwalking shit? Let me just make sure. Your lawyer?

Speaker 1 My lawyer.

Speaker 1 My lawyer. That guy's a dog.
That guy's a dog. Listen, y'all go get these dads or whatever.
Wherever they got their attorneys from on paper, it read.

Speaker 1 Fucking Johnson and Johnson firm. Whatever the fuck.
It read. We have.
It's the network. It read.

Speaker 1 You got their ass ate up in here. They got...

Speaker 1 You got to go get you a hungry nigga that's just about it. It's the video.
And the video. No, I think they owe they would have hung your black ass off the balcony.
They were giving a shit case.

Speaker 1 They were giving a shit case. I will say that.
Like, lewdness and stalking for what we have on this video. Yeah, nah.
Yeah, shout out to my lawyer. Shout out to the judge.
Shout out to the prize page.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the fans. Shout out to the haters.
I think that's it.

Speaker 1 I think that's it. Does this change how you feel about being in this space, particularly having to walk past them or see them going into the crib or seeing them on the elevator?

Speaker 1 You got like enemies. Like for real,

Speaker 1 does it make you not want to be here?

Speaker 1 It did. It did for a minute during the month.
Again, I was more worried about y'all.

Speaker 1 Not really me.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't feel like my people should be subject to certain things, certain profiling.

Speaker 1 and certain surveillance that I know was going on even in my absence. But for me, no, listen, I came here,

Speaker 1 I rented this place. I want to shout out to her, too.

Speaker 1 I was going to say something.

Speaker 1 The owner of this unit is fly.

Speaker 1 Like, be clear, the owner of this unit is absolutely fly, loves me, loves this, loves it all.

Speaker 1 And I had such a great time in this building that they don't leak on my business, so I could talk, that I purchased multiple units in the building.

Speaker 1 But that's where the problem started. Yep.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 That's where the classism shit. That's when the beef starts.
That is where the classism shit comes in. We've been in here for two years.
Everybody in the building loves us.

Speaker 1 The cleaning people fuck with us. The managers fuck with us.
Everybody likes us. Using your place.
Once you buy a unit here,

Speaker 1 it changes. Oh, what? Or two.
Yeah, yeah. You bought a couple.
No, look, look. Wait, no.
And no, no, no, no. And then.
And my unit might cost more than their units. You only told us to do one.

Speaker 1 No, I don't. I thought I'd have two.

Speaker 1 I have a few. Don't worry about it.
Mind Mind your business.

Speaker 1 But then that Ferrari popped up.

Speaker 1 Then. And then that colouring popped up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like, I'm going to fix this little nigga.

Speaker 1 No, dog. The problem started pre-cars.
No, I know. The problem started.

Speaker 1 Because even the nigga over there was like, oh, yeah, you've written, right? Yeah, let me get that other parking spot.

Speaker 1 You understand what I'm saying? Like, just the fact that you're saying shit. Show whistling.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Speaking in code.

Speaker 1 No, it's true. Oh, Oh, you bought something?

Speaker 1 Let me go research what he bought. So to answer your question, maybe I would feel the way if I were a renter.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm an owner.
You can't.

Speaker 1 That means I'm taking my owner belt to where I rent too. That mean I'm on HOAs.
I'm on the Zooms.

Speaker 1 I'm on the town hall meetings. I'm there.
So, and I think that those people, the racist people I'm talking about, have sullied themselves with their behavior. Oh, that's good.
Like, people like me.

Speaker 1 Like I treat people with respect and I'm kind and I'm polite. Yeah, we fly with a lot of the neighbors in the burger.
Nah, yeah, they're flying. So it was a long way.

Speaker 1 So that shit had, y'all got him, the nice guy out there saying he did what? Did y'all say he did? Nah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 for the people, because I'm sure the board saw the video, they have no choice. Now I'm going to hear what y'all said happened versus what I saw happen.
It makes y'all look crazy.

Speaker 1 They got no credibility. To any rational person, it makes y'all look crazy.
And that's what the judge said. The judge was like,

Speaker 1 I understand

Speaker 1 what your perception was and being afraid.

Speaker 1 And again, naked man at your door, I get it. Yeah, for sure.
A thousand percent. You got me telling you regardless.
Yeah, the accountability part for me was, yo, let me bounce.

Speaker 1 Let me get my people out of there.

Speaker 1 That was a little crazy. That was a lot.

Speaker 1 Damn, I forgot what I was about to say. Accountability piece with the naked man.
And the judge said something about that.

Speaker 1 Oh, the judge is like, I understand that that's your perception of what went on, but

Speaker 1 no, it's not our job. Because their lawyer kept saying, well, what other reason could he have been?

Speaker 1 What other reason would there for him to be naked outside the door if he wasn't trying the R-word?

Speaker 2 Sleepwalking.

Speaker 1 Like, he kept saying that. And in the final verdict, the judge was like, like, you kept saying that, but it's not the court's job to assume why.
he was out there. Like, it's your job to prove

Speaker 1 all. But look,

Speaker 1 even a lawyer's percept That's like saying yo, what was that black guy doing walking down the street at three o'clock in the morning?

Speaker 1 It's no different what your perception of me walking down the street is nigga. I might have just got off work at one.
Right. You know what I'm saying? Like all of that shit.

Speaker 1 And then that goes into the mindset of the people that you can only perceive this one way. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? And be close-minded to any other potential.

Speaker 1 Yo, this shit. Yeah, but that shit, I'm not going to lie.
Like,

Speaker 1 it was a little jarring for me.

Speaker 1 Like, we've been over here over 20 years yes i've never had that encounter i've never had one encounter this shit over here is a melting pot and i tell people that all the time like this neighborhood is not that it's not that it's not that it's i've never been unfairly treated around here and again we've been here 20 over 20 years yes like i've never had those issues because dog you don't know in this neighborhood who you pulling over Right.

Speaker 1 So you can't do that bullshit because you don't, you could be pulling over fucking Quincy Jones's son.

Speaker 1 You could be pulling over Judge blah blah blah's nephew you don't know who the fuck you pulling over here everybody got a couple dollars I've never had no real real in racial interactions here never they start watching the pod they try to fucking they brought up some shit Mel said they was just yeah they was going crazy man glad it's over with indeed so happy to be back here with y'all Learning, learning experience for sure.

Speaker 2 Well, last question. What's the building's stance on all of this?

Speaker 2 Because I know that they were siding with you just in terms of tactics that she was using to, you know, just become a nuisance.

Speaker 1 Y'all do know outside of, let me try to answer you, outside of my civil case,

Speaker 1 the state of New Jersey, there's an ongoing battle with entrepreneurs and people that work from home. and what that entails.
That's everywhere, I think, at this point. Post-pandemic, the entire

Speaker 1 landscape. Yeah, it it changed the landscape.
But they trying to,

Speaker 1 and I can't speak very well.

Speaker 1 In New Jersey, they back and forth in the paperwork court side of it. Sure.
I'm sure that's happening all over. That's all I'm saying.
Hopefully. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I even thought about that when I moved to my new place in terms of like the lease agreements and all that shit, because most lease agreements have a commercial clause in there.

Speaker 1 It's like, well, I work from home, so how does this work?

Speaker 1 And I want to write it off. That too.
Exactly. So, so what? So the build,

Speaker 1 the build? Oh, go ahead. You want to put that shit in your company name, et cetera, et cetera.
So it'll just be an easier thing for taxation? Right. How do you do that?

Speaker 1 The building stance as of today, because that may change. Lawyers get involved and things go different.
But the building stance is

Speaker 1 not only should you be allowed to work from home, but if you say that Joe Budden can't do that, Dere, then you're saying that to the people that Zoom, the people that the YouTubers, you're saying that to the Twitchers, streamers, lawyers, streamers.

Speaker 1 lawyers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're saying. Teachers.
Because courts have been closed. A lot of people, a lot of courts haven't opened back up.
A lot of court is Zoom. Yeah.
Telemedicine, all of that. All of that shit.

Speaker 1 So now you're saying that they can't work. Yeah, but I mean, you know that the lawyers' jobs is to put the gray area words in there, which is commercial broadcast.
Like, what is commercial? Right.

Speaker 1 What is that?

Speaker 1 It's not like we're selling wares necessarily out of the apartment where

Speaker 1 podcasting.

Speaker 1 Especially in a real estate arena, it's really just residential, industrial, commercial. Right.
And then the industrial, commercial could be one and the same. You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So if you're not using this particular unit for residential purposes, what's the other outcome? Right. Commercial.
You know what I'm saying? So it could get.

Speaker 1 Nah, but that's why we'd be making Corey sleep in there. I know.
I know. Corey's got to sleep in there two nights, three.
Nah, I seen a little washcloth with the dial. Yeah, we went.

Speaker 1 I said, we went to Bob's furniture, nigga. I said, what the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 1 No, so the building stance, and again, that is subject to change. But I'm not even worried about that, right? Because the blessed part is I'll go buy a place.
True. And that'll be the end.

Speaker 1 Although, even with that, you never know what your neighbors, like, that's, thank God for my

Speaker 1 neighbors.

Speaker 1 I'm blessed. Even if you move to the burbs or whatever it may be, still got to be careful.
The neighbors might trip out and raise the same questions that they would in a, in a.

Speaker 1 I'm blessed enough to be able to buy something where the neighbors could be a little away.

Speaker 2 Yeah, for sure. In a freestanding house,

Speaker 1 the same commercial versus residential shit could still pop up, no matter where you're at.

Speaker 1 I think resident versus resident,

Speaker 1 then.

Speaker 1 Because in your house, you can do what you want. Like I said, if you own that shit.
In your house, you can shoot whatever the fuck you want to shoot.

Speaker 1 You can't be having pool parties at two in the morning. Yeah, and blasting music and having the people from the pool party leave and piss on the neighbor's lawn like it's what was going on in 2012.

Speaker 1 I knew what you was talking about.

Speaker 1 Because why would somebody do that? If you have a pool party, now you're going to leave and pee on the neighbor's lawn. That shit was terrible.
The licker hit you when you was walking to the car.

Speaker 1 Had to go. That's crazy.
Got to go, got to go. Find a tree.

Speaker 1 A bush. The neighbor's lawn.

Speaker 1 Stupid niggas. Anyway, man, listen, glad it's over.
Indeed.

Speaker 1 Happy to be back with y'all. Happy to be back with y'all.
Again, extremely grateful for the job that y'all did most of it.

Speaker 1 And yeah, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good to be back. Word.

Speaker 1 And I'm glad all that shit is over.

Speaker 1 I was so glad to be back here. I was here at 9 o'clock.

Speaker 1 He was early. He was early.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 I got to go to Queens? Fuck it. I don't know, though.

Speaker 1 I had so much fun at the trial. I got kind of the court bug now.

Speaker 1 Hold up now, I got the bug. Just watching niggas' cases, I'm suing the shit out of people.

Speaker 1 I'm suing the shit out of like seven. I got mad, mad complaints.
I'm getting back to court. That shit was a hide a little bit.
I'll tell you. If you didn't have to be serious,

Speaker 1 that shit was that was quite the experience.

Speaker 1 I've never been through anything like that. They good at it.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 They lost. I know.
know. I'm just telling you, though.
They lost. They lost.
I got the inside. I got the inside.
Hey, my God, don't play about me.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's it.
I was shocked to see so many people out there. They wanted me to lose.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Oh, my lord. That's terrible.

Speaker 1 Oh, they wanted all of us.

Speaker 1 That shit was terrible. Yeah, it's over for y'all.
And now what you want to do, y'all.

Speaker 1 What is people's obsession with wanting to see me humbled?

Speaker 1 it's gonna take more than my naked body on sleep

Speaker 1 it's gonna take more than the little shrimp dick

Speaker 1 man the fuck is wrong with these people now but anyway time for my favorite part I seen them hey

Speaker 1 hey

Speaker 1 Yeah, nah, I seen it. I seen it.
You goddamn right. Seeing what? I'd have lost this prize, fixed gigs, price going up.

Speaker 1 They knew. They knew.
You goddamn right they knew. It was like, yo, y'all should stop saying that because y'all know what's going to happen if he loses the prospects.
No, that was funny.

Speaker 1 That was funny. Patreon's going up.
But again, I preach this. I preach the importance of getting with companies.
I've been on the other side. You said that.
You said that.

Speaker 1 I've been on the other side of,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 companies will put the wording in the contract. Hey, if you're charged with something, it's over.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Morals clause.
No, no, no, no, no, no. That's crazy.
No. Just charge.
If I'm convicted of something, then it's over. But charge? We ain't just letting people.

Speaker 1 Them niggas be like, any negative press? We out. Yeah, no, no, no.
I was very happy. I'm very happy with prospects.
I'm not going to lie. I am.
I'm very, very, very, very happy. So happy.

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Speaker 1 Prospects.

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Speaker 1 Do I think Denver has a shot? I like the Chargers, yo. That's my upset pick.
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Speaker 1 There's your upset right there. What? Big gang for pickings.

Speaker 1 Y'all usually play them tough, but I think

Speaker 1 he's been on a losing streak. Yes, they can't.
The Steelers ain't. Yeah, they ain't.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's going to change. They haven't hurt the greatest, but I'm rooting Feist.
I'm rooting Feist and the Steelers. My team ain't doing shit.
Lost the number one pick. Stupid.

Speaker 1 Stupid. Tyreek Hill want to leave.
He do. How do you feel about that? I didn't like that.

Speaker 1 I don't mind him wanting to leave. I don't like the way that he did it after the game like that.
That was super corny. Man, unprofessional.
Yeah. Especially when you had a bad year.

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Who are the Eagles?

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Speaker 1 I don't think the Eagles are winning the Super Bowl. He don't either.
I'm not listening to them all. He don't either.
I'm not even listening to them. Who y'all got in the first round?

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Oh, I'll tell you. All right, yo, look, man, we talking about court and sports.
I mean,

Speaker 1 Fox Sports. Oh, man.
Let's get to it, freaky sports. This is when the pod officially begins.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 Who's introing us? Belle.

Speaker 1 Mel. Take it away, Belle.
Take it away.

Speaker 1 Okay. Like Calgon, give it to us.

Speaker 2 I actually did a summarization of the entire lawsuit.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.
Just because I, you know, wanted to.

Speaker 1 Just because you heard. Well, you know.
Hurricane.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 2 So a hairdresser over at Fox Sports has launched a lawsuit naming Skip Bayless as a defendant in the lawsuit, claiming that he,

Speaker 2 how would I put this?

Speaker 1 Sexually harassed her. Sexually harassed her.
Yeah, sexually harassed her.

Speaker 2 Basically said,

Speaker 2 propositioned her, I'll pay you $1.5 million if you'll sleep with me.

Speaker 2 She also alleges that the culture. Scoffed at that.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 big male.

Speaker 2 She also alleges that the culture really just kind of like was, it was a horrible place for women to work.

Speaker 2 And that's basically it. But Joy Taylor is catching the brunt of the conversation.
This shit is wild.

Speaker 1 So she's a defendant, too. I mean, Joy Taylor is also a defendant.
She's a big lawsuit. So it's a

Speaker 1 class action suit. It's three things, right? It's a class action suit, right?

Speaker 1 And that's for labor because she's saying that all the part-time workers, all the casual workers, the hairdressers, all the people who get paid hourly are getting screwed by the network for stuff like this.

Speaker 1 Then she's suing the head of.

Speaker 1 William Mike Dammarten.

Speaker 1 the head of programming or the executive VP of programming, Charlie Dixon, and Neyman Joy Taylor, who's a major host on FS1 and Neaman Skip Bayless. So they're getting sued personally.

Speaker 1 The company's getting sued.

Speaker 1 And as you said, this class action suit, which is going to be crazy and actually has implications for everybody in the business who works as a makeup artist, as a hairstylist, as everybody else.

Speaker 1 So that's really important. But it's all said, like you said, there's a culture of,

Speaker 1 they use the word patriarchy in the document, of patriarchy, of sexism, of sexual harassment, of all kinds of stuff. What I thought was interesting were two things.
One was how well documented it was.

Speaker 1 A lot of times these act things would be just random allegations. It's like she had notes of everything.
She said she had a journal. A journal.
I mean, it was clear, right?

Speaker 1 And you just jump in to tell the audience. The SH journal is crazy.
It's all

Speaker 1 the hairstylists and the MUAs

Speaker 1 know the T. Everything.
Yes,

Speaker 1 it is their job and gig to know the T, and that's across the board.

Speaker 1 And they microphone the makeup room at Fox Sports. So they literally is they're recording at all times.
That's why Skip, and they say in the lawsuit, Skip was like, the room is bugged.

Speaker 1 So he would text her or allegedly or try to talk to her outside of the makeup room because that's where all the

Speaker 1 second care was.

Speaker 2 Exactly. So there's been a couple of responses.
So Fox Sports response.

Speaker 2 Fox Sports has acknowledged that the seriousness of the allegations, but has refrained from further comment due to pending litigation. Skip Bayless's response.

Speaker 2 Yeah, as of the latest reports, Skip Bayless and his representatives have not publicly commented on the suit. Shannon Sharp was

Speaker 1 at Skip is at Wayne's house.

Speaker 1 Skip is at Lil Wayne's house right now.

Speaker 2 Shannon Sharp wants to make it absolutely clear that he has absolutely nothing to do with this. Don't bring his name into shit.
I wasn't there. Just don't.

Speaker 1 Right, that's facts. I'll take a small order, Cappuccino.

Speaker 1 That's facts. But that's facts.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And as far as i know joy taylor has yet to say anything but joy went to work joy went to work joy went to work covered up covered him up and the manual outcho deleted some stuff because he didn't now that's my man right there hold up they you know the internet gonna keep the fouls yes they did the internet kept the fouls hold up now there's a lot of horny clips and what up

Speaker 1 to shout out my co-host joy taylor a woman a black woman Daily show,

Speaker 1 sports. Do you all realize how hard it is to get into the position that she is in?

Speaker 1 So often with this being sexual, she put it on that nigga.

Speaker 1 So we don't even care what women have to say in sports.

Speaker 1 But Joy is not only

Speaker 1 on television as a woman, as a black woman,

Speaker 1 as an opinionist. So, not just asking men what they think, but providing her own unique and distinct insight.
It's hard to do in Joy.

Speaker 2 Two things can be true at the same time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he wasn't wrong.

Speaker 1 He's absolutely

Speaker 1 not wrong. We know where that's coming from.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he was so remote.

Speaker 2 But you feel like he was incentivized to say that because

Speaker 1 you think he's wrong, though?

Speaker 1 He's not wrong. But he just left the crib.
He did it right outside the crib. You know, she put it on him.
That's what the internet said.

Speaker 1 The internet said he's right outside of her crib in his car in a t-shirt, smelling his finger every time that he

Speaker 1 said something. See, no, they picture the hat.
He's sitting there. He got the blanket across his lap.
He's just sitting on the couch with him. With some wine, too.

Speaker 1 And some kinky shit, Mark. And the wine, listen, wine have the same effect it'd be having on Mel.
Like,

Speaker 1 you know, Mel gets some wine.

Speaker 1 Wine? That's hate. Oh, my lord.

Speaker 2 Let me just read the part of this that is the most, I think, detrimental to Joy's reputation currently.

Speaker 2 Just because the Court of Public Opinion is going to do what it does.

Speaker 1 That one sentence.

Speaker 2 And this is fucking nuts.

Speaker 2 A few months after meeting Mr. Acho at the lunch, Miss Faragi, who is the the plaintiff,

Speaker 2 plaintiff?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 Notice him in the hallway at work. Ms.
Faragi later asked Ms. Taylor if Mr.
Acho also worked at Fox. Ms.
Taylor confirmed and explained that she wanted Mr.

Speaker 2 Acho to eventually recommend her on the show, Speak for Yourself. Ms.
Faragi became alarmed and warned Miss Taylor that she should probably not sleep with Mr. Dixon and Mr.

Speaker 2 Acho at the same time, as Mr. Dixon is a very powerful man that may become very angry.
Ms. Taylor told her not to worry about it.
She explained that she was also also now powerful, and once Mr.

Speaker 2 Dixon was no longer useful to her, she would follow through on her plan to tell the company that he had forced himself on her. She would not allow herself to be forced out by Mr.

Speaker 2 Dixon like other women talent.

Speaker 1 That's disgusting.

Speaker 1 That's the only thing. I want to preface all of this with: we don't know that any of this is true.
True,

Speaker 1 I think that that's important to note.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I got a job to do.

Speaker 1 I'm assuming it's.

Speaker 1 No, no. Are you assuming it's true? No, no, I'm not assuming it's true because I don't believe that Skip Bayless offered $1.5 million to get some pussy pulls.

Speaker 1 And if he did. I don't think you offer 0.5.
I believe he might have. Just think he was talking shit.
I think he might have said it. Nah.
No. Like as a joke? Yeah, just talking shit.
No. No.
No.

Speaker 1 From that lawsuit, it seemed like he was pressed to get her attention. What's the no that you're saying?

Speaker 2 That no, he did make the proposition at all.

Speaker 1 He didn't offer 0.5.

Speaker 1 I don't believe that 0.5.

Speaker 1 Skip his money.

Speaker 2 But you guys believe that he offered money compensation to get pussy.

Speaker 1 I don't know about that. That's possible, but

Speaker 1 plausible. I think it's more than nowhere near that number.
Okay. So, and if she put that number in her lawsuit, I don't believe that.
So now I must.

Speaker 2 Are you doing that based on the number or because of the picture you saw?

Speaker 1 I'm basing it on the number. The number.
But why is it so hard to believe that he could just say some words? 1.5 million.

Speaker 1 I don't think it makes sense. But I'm just saying, like, he could have said it and just been talking shit.
Nah, I'm not sure. But let me ask you.
I agree.

Speaker 1 Why do,

Speaker 1 and you, my man,

Speaker 1 why do y'all immediately give all the time credence to that? Like, the same way you saying, why do you believe that? Why is it not

Speaker 1 viable that we don't believe it? What I'm saying is, I don't know one way or the other. I don't assume it's not true.

Speaker 1 And because I've been in his business long enough to see what men say, particularly men like Skip, and I don't know Skip personally, but I... Then what does men like men like Skip mean?

Speaker 1 Older, aging men who use their who abuse their power who are insecure and who are and who are constantly battling for stuff. I'm basing that on

Speaker 1 women right now. He don't really give me insecure, by the way.
He doesn't. Oh, you'd be surprised.
I'm only talking about what his peers and colleagues have said at FF1 to me.

Speaker 1 So again, I don't know him, so I could be wrong. Gotcha.

Speaker 1 But based on his personality, he fits a type that I have seen and having worked at Fox of powerful hosts, powerful producers, powerful people, and they do shit like that.

Speaker 1 And if you don't want to give them none, they go harder. They text you.
They offer you gifts.

Speaker 1 And they just keep raising the stakes because it's their ego to chase you i don't think skip weightless is notoriously cheap right like like stephen a said the other night he would don't think he'd give them fifty dollars right

Speaker 1 50 i'm not saying he would have done it but it doesn't surprise me that people flaw it facetiously or to see what you're gonna do just to see what you're gonna do like yo if i gave you 1.5 would you give me some pussy like that's not a crazy thing to say to somebody just to see what they think when you're talking that's all i'm saying i'm just saying he's talking shit yeah yeah but i don't believe it or not believe it i'm saying i don't know but i wouldn't dismiss her i wouldn't this woman's stuff was so well documented all the other stuff it's like like people so easily believe the stuff against Joy, but find this part to be so hard to believe.

Speaker 1 I'm saying all of it is equally

Speaker 1 questionable against Joy. I don't necessarily believe everything about Joy.
And it's two totally different things.

Speaker 1 The things that they are accusing Joy of, I've never met Joy in my life. And I have friends that are super duper close to her.
Okay. So I want to, you know, be respectful.
But

Speaker 1 if we're going to just call a spade a spade, it's a lot of women that sleep their way to the top. They do.
So that's not something that would be. No, I'm talking about that statement.

Speaker 1 The statement of I would say he forced himself on me. I didn't, oh, I ain't taking that.
That's the part I'm talking about. That's the part I'm talking about.
But, but, well, hold up.

Speaker 1 Are you of the belief that there are women out there that are of that thinking? Or to play the game like that. Of course.
Okay. Again, I'm not.
Just checking. And that number's growing.

Speaker 1 I just got to check that. Because that's part of the sleeping your way to the top.
Because now, if you are in a position position of power,

Speaker 1 and I'm sure, I'm a thousand percent sure, their bylaws, we talking about condo bylaws.

Speaker 1 These niggas' bylaws say if you are in a position of power, you shouldn't be having any romantic relationships with your subordinates. Correct.

Speaker 1 So the second that you had any type, if you tongue-kiss me, nigga, you on a hook. I got you.
I got you. But that's different than saying he forced himself on me.
I know.

Speaker 1 But now I always have that in my back pocket as my trump card or my big Joker to lay it out anytime anything happens. Because the lady also said that, yo, she said, now I'm powerful.

Speaker 1 So that's my power. That's my Mike Tyson point.
See, my issue is how we think about this conversation, right? This is the part where y'all are going to say, this is what you was expecting.

Speaker 1 But you cape?

Speaker 1 Who have I caped for?

Speaker 2 He doesn't even open up his fucking mouth.

Speaker 1 I haven't caped for anybody.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, buddy. I'm not caping.
I'm saying,

Speaker 1 I'm saying that there's a whole system in place that denies women access to these jobs.

Speaker 1 It's men who put women by denying them jobs and saying the only way you're going to get a job is if you have sex with me. That's a system.

Speaker 1 And so Joy did what a lot of people do, the same way Stephen from Django did it, right? It's a sexist system, but it sounds like if the allegations are true, she has replicated sexism.

Speaker 1 She has become the very person that we're trying to stop. So I'm not caper for Joy, but to be clear, I'm saying she's wrong.

Speaker 1 If this is true, she's a thousand percent wrong and she should be punished the same way everybody else is.

Speaker 1 So I'm not taking that away from her, but I'm just saying I think we should focus more on the system that makes makes it so that the only way a woman can be powerful is if she has a Trump card like that, as opposed to saying, I'm qualified for this job.

Speaker 1 I deserve this job. I should get this job.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Even if you're right, nigga, I don't fell asleep or this shit. Whatever, man.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to hold you. I start snoring at that fucking woman.
Well,

Speaker 1 just stay in your seat. And it's dressed.

Speaker 1 I agree with everything you said, but.

Speaker 1 I just think the world is the world. I think people play their cards how they get dealt.

Speaker 1 And that's it. But women get dealt fucked up cards is all the time.
I'm not disagreeing. They play them.

Speaker 1 And they playing them. But and it's their choice.
She made it to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Dolphin Legend.
I ain't going to keep it. I mean, yes, women get dealt fucked up cards.

Speaker 1 I don't know if Joy falls into that boat. Even if she does, she is moving around.
I don't know. Look, even if she does, Joy Taylor is being talked about right now.
She earned that.

Speaker 1 However, she earned it, right? We've all done some shit, shady shit, questionable shit, to get to a level of advancement. We all have done that.
Yes. And that's just a part of the game.

Speaker 1 Now, if you are saying

Speaker 1 I would take this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I ain't rolling.

Speaker 1 I've been on the other side of the stick during my advancement.

Speaker 1 No, but not necessarily anything crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, niggas have done some funny shit. I'm just saying that

Speaker 1 if you are going to accuse somebody of some heinous shit, that's fucked up. That was voluntary, that's fucked up.
I agree. If that is the case.
If that's the case, that's the worst shit.

Speaker 1 That's the worst shit also.

Speaker 2 Because on the flip side, if she's making it up, the hairdresser is making it up that Joy never actually said those things, then that is super fucked up.

Speaker 1 Just to advance her cause. I would agree.
So

Speaker 2 we don't know what happened, but

Speaker 2 this is a really fucked up position for Joy to be in because of the fact that nobody knows.

Speaker 2 There's no video. There's no video.
And as far as we all know, there's no recording of that particular thing being said.

Speaker 1 And that is the most...

Speaker 1 I think Joy's the victim in this. And also, I think.
She's the victim? Yes. A little bit.
She's getting dragged into somebody. My nigga, I ain't getting nothing to nobody.

Speaker 1 I'm not in love with you, nigga. She's only the victim.
She's the victim if she didn't do it. No, she's the victim, period.
Wait, if the suit is true, she's still the victim? Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Her suit is her suit.

Speaker 1 The hairdresser suit is her suit. Why are you bringing other people in nobody's daughter? Joy ain't suing a motherfucking person.
Joy's being sued for having done things to...

Speaker 1 What does she do?

Speaker 1 I can fuck who I want to fuck.

Speaker 1 I ain't do nothing. If I fucked my way to the top, that's my motherfucking business.
Keep that shit over there. This was the best thing.
And that's not nothing with nobody.

Speaker 1 When does my body, my choice, come into play for you? When does it come into play?

Speaker 1 You can always.

Speaker 1 I don't have a problem with who she like in the oven.

Speaker 1 I never had flips cooking before. He is looking at the mother.

Speaker 1 No, no, this is his first time cooking. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I am. I don't have a problem with who she fucks.
If she wants to fuck everybody in that company, she can't. I don't have a problem with that.
That's not my... I have no issue with that.

Speaker 1 The issue I took was the issue we were talking about with the quote.

Speaker 1 If she's not only fucking her way to the top, as they say, but also creating a situation where once it stops working, she is now going to implicate the people she had sex with

Speaker 1 for basically sexual assault. That's not what she said, though.
She said, if they try to force himself,

Speaker 1 he got mad, but I wasn't saying forced himself on me.

Speaker 1 No, it's not. But Mark said, once it stops working,

Speaker 1 Mark said, once it stops working,

Speaker 1 then she would go file charges. That's not what she said.
She said that if she started fucking the other dude and homeboy got mad and tried to use it against her, she got a trump card.

Speaker 1 So if I'm fucking blah, blah, blah, blah, and you try to fire me for that, I got something to talk about.

Speaker 2 I understand, but in essence, doesn't that necessarily mean that the plan has stopped working?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 It means that you got mad that I'm not fucking you no more and I'm fucking this person and now you're going to try to blackmail me. You can't blackmail me because I got the trump card.

Speaker 1 But the trump card is to lie and say he forced himself on you.

Speaker 1 That's the only issue. That's what I'm saying.
That is

Speaker 1 a flips question.

Speaker 1 That's my issue with it. My issue is not who women fuck.
Women can fuck whoever they want. That's why I said the system to me is is the issue.

Speaker 1 A system where you have to fuck your way to the top is the problem. But I'm not blaming an individual woman for having sex on the way to the top.
So tell me why she's not the victim. No, go ahead.

Speaker 1 You can answer that. Because of this, my critique of her is not the sex part.
Again, it's just that one line because what we said is the most damning thing, right?

Speaker 1 If she said that thing and was intending to do that thing to say that the person that she voluntarily had sex with forced himself on her, I'm saying that would be, that would make her not a victim.

Speaker 1 That's the only thing I'm saying.

Speaker 1 If she's doing that in retaliation to you doing something to him, so you get mad that I'm fucking somebody else.

Speaker 1 And now you're trying to cost me my job. Then I can accuse you of rapping.
I can accuse you of it. I'm retaliating to you.
Yeah, I don't believe. You're not going to be dirt with dirt or mud with mud.

Speaker 1 And I'm saying they both be fucked up. There's no word where I'm going to defend that, but I understand.
Yeah, I'm not trying to defend him. I'm not defending her either.

Speaker 1 It's just like she's backed in a corner. That's all I got.
Because at the end of the day,

Speaker 1 I couldn't advance without fucking you. You made that.
You made it.

Speaker 1 I just want to say for the record on the Joe Button button podcast Mark is the one criticizing a woman for fake allegations Y'all the one defending her saying her back is against the wall So when the people come out with the capes right now

Speaker 1 We don't even know if the girl ever said it.

Speaker 1 No, this is all conditional Everything is conditional and if it's true I'm saying if this is true That's fucked up, but if she did say it I ain't sue a motherfucking person my podcast was supposed to start this week

Speaker 1 Her podcast, season two, was supposed to start this week. I've been pressing refresh since Monday.

Speaker 1 I've been looking for the new episode of Joy Taylor's podcast for a week. Like, dog, now I got to tuck my shit because some shit I didn't even bring to the public.

Speaker 2 Todd with Taylor Rooks.

Speaker 1 That's the one I've been looking for.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. No, from what I understand, Taylor has stepped away from the podcast due to increased responsibilities in her other professional endeavors.

Speaker 1 A swan.

Speaker 1 That's not the wrong thing.

Speaker 1 And I do believe that. And I do believe that.
Yeah, she got her Amazon show.

Speaker 1 Blade Griffin, they bring it on. They spending money on Taylor Rooks.
Taylor Rooks is a rising star.

Speaker 1 I'm not mad at her wanting to get far the fuck away from any of these.

Speaker 2 And here's the other thing about Taylor Rooks in comparison to Joy. Everybody, it seemed to open up the conversation about how...

Speaker 2 statistically how many women actually take advantage of you know the abuse and power and and being a part of the system and sleeping the way their way to the top this is now being made to women are being made to seem like this is a regular occurrence and this is what a lot of women do.

Speaker 2 And I don't agree with that.

Speaker 1 I don't think a lot of women do it.

Speaker 2 I think some women do it.

Speaker 1 I think the system makes it successful.

Speaker 2 I think there's such a risk involved with doing it because you can fuck a motherfucker and then he's a, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I can give you shit. I give you a beginning of time.

Speaker 1 You know this. At the beginning of time, a woman would throw her weight around and the weight would be the vagina.

Speaker 1 If a man is not really giving into her intellect or what she could bring to the table women throw pussy around in these offices I disagree. I disagree.

Speaker 1 I'll give you a perfect example, right? When I worked at Fox News, I worked on

Speaker 1 it. Can I say this? Yeah, I can say this.
I worked on the O'Reilly factor with Bill O'Reilly, right? Trader.

Speaker 1 I was on the visiting team.

Speaker 1 I was the one to argue it.

Speaker 1 And I would come on and see these different very articulate,

Speaker 1 attractive, conventionally attractive, blonde, white women debating him. And they all had regular spots.

Speaker 1 And as the years went on, almost all of them that I knew sued him for sexual harassment and said that the only way they could get that job was either to have sex with Bill.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, they sued Fox, not Bill.

Speaker 1 Some sued Bill, some sued Fox. And they said it was either to have sex with Roger Ailes, to have sex with Bill O'Reilly, all these people.
Were they qualified? Yes. Were they talented? Yes.

Speaker 1 But there were a lot of people who also were qualified and talented. So out of 100, maybe the four made it to the top.
So 96 women, to Mel's point, don't do it.

Speaker 1 But the four that do are the four that won. And

Speaker 1 that's part of the system. So most women don't sleep their way to the top.
I understand, my sister some, sorry.

Speaker 1 But then your math is off. Because wouldn't you only need to look at the women that made it to the top? Exactly.
And not the entire field. To determine what?

Speaker 1 To determine how many of them slept their way to the top versus how many of them. But the rest of the field don't get to the top.

Speaker 2 Because they don't get to the top.

Speaker 1 Right. But you just.
I don't presume that everybody, I don't presume that everybody at the top has slept their way. I'm saying just in that particular time.

Speaker 1 But your percentages, it wouldn't be 96 didn't. It would be how many women are at the top.

Speaker 1 And now how many of those. I'm sorry, I wasn't clear.

Speaker 1 I'm saying that there were lots of women who appeared on the show. The four are the ones who got a regular spot.
They all appeared. They all were TV people.
So they're all in the business.

Speaker 1 But I'm saying to get to the best jobs and at the top of the top, those are the ones I think that are often getting fucked out to do.

Speaker 1 Do you think that the women that do get to the top, they go in there with the intent of, I know what he wants. I know what I have to give him to get here.
I'll tell you this, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I can tell you, just having, in my own personal experience, having dated women in the business, when they come home, I know the stories they tell me about what

Speaker 1 they endure. What they endure.

Speaker 1 I heard that as well.

Speaker 1 And it's actually rare that I don't hear some inappropriate shit.

Speaker 1 Listen, I know y'all are having a really intelligent conversation right now. Ish, do you want to say something before I say something totally ignorant?

Speaker 1 Because I'm going to say something real ignorant.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Now you got it.

Speaker 1 I don't want to just shit on the women that are fucking their way to the top. Because a good part of me says, you should, you got to probably be pretty good at fucking

Speaker 1 if you fuck your way to the top.

Speaker 1 You don't. I don't know that.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell you why you don't. That's not true.
Because a lot of the men who are doing the fucking are like a million years old. And when you get a certain age.
So it's good to them.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is, you ain't got to be good at fucking, you just got to be young. Like a lot of times it's their ego.
You're fucking their age. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 When you turn 60 and you get a 25-year-old, she ain't got to be that good at fucking for it to be a thing for you. That's what I'm saying.
They say don't judge it. Go ahead.
You're wrong.

Speaker 1 A nigga that is worth, I'm going to throw a number. I'm going to let you throw the number up.
A nigga that's worth 30 million. He's fucked up.
If that's his thing,

Speaker 1 he can fuck 100, 200, 300, 20-something-year-old pretty women. Yeah, but it's power.

Speaker 1 Don't move the goalpost.

Speaker 1 If you have that much money, you could fuck a bunch of young women.

Speaker 1 And only a few of those young women you selected to move to the top, that means those women presented something that the other 98 did not. You said among that pool.
I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1 I see what you're saying. So the ones to Joe's point, and this is some ignorant shit, I'm just going to say,

Speaker 1 fuck better. Or they made him feel better than the other ones that was fucking him.
Maybe. You know what? I don't know.

Speaker 1 They got the tricks. They got the tricks.
Dog, we all been single men before. We fucked a lot of women before.
I can speak to every nigga in this room. I know him.
They fucked some quality women.

Speaker 1 They fucked a bunch of women before. It's a few women that got extra perks.
It's a few women that you would get out the bed at three o'clock.

Speaker 1 They do the tricks, man.

Speaker 1 They do the tricks.

Speaker 2 You don't think that you speak from a privileged position?

Speaker 1 No, I think I speak from a male position.

Speaker 2 No, you speak from a privileged position.

Speaker 2 I don't have to be. I have fucking eyes.

Speaker 1 You speak from a privileged position of being fucking attractive.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 You could be broke and a bitch is going to fuck you.

Speaker 2 When you look like Roger fucking ales, you know what I'm saying? It's the power and the money that you use to abuse in order to get the pretty young girls to fuck you. That's basically it.

Speaker 2 That's the only reason why she would.

Speaker 1 Melissa Ford, who do you think could get more pussy? Me or Rick Ross?

Speaker 2 I actually cannot answer that question confidently.

Speaker 1 I bet you can't.

Speaker 2 I mean, currently you are a fiancé, so probably him.

Speaker 1 Let me speak to my point. Who do you think had more pussy in their life? Me or Trick Daddy?

Speaker 1 Any nigga with some.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 So, what's your point, Dylan?

Speaker 2 I truly do not. I cannot make that discussion.

Speaker 1 You're right about that. You're right.
No disrespect to Rick Ross. But Melissa, it's not a privilege to be attractive when you start talking about these particular settings.

Speaker 1 When you start talking about the money and the power, that shit don't have nothing to do with.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 That shit don't have nothing to do with when a woman is moving around for a man. I got $40, $50, $60, $70 million.

Speaker 1 How you look might just be a cherry on a Sunday.

Speaker 2 Okay. This particular case, Charlie Dixon, I don't believe that he's worth $20, $30, $40 million fucking dollars.

Speaker 1 He's just

Speaker 1 a fucking gatekeeper. He's a gatekeeper.
He's a powerful. He's a gatekeeper.
Okay.

Speaker 1 He might be the conduit to you making $10, $20 million, $30 million. And he is.

Speaker 1 Which is why Joy was also wrong and not just a victim here, because when he allegedly touched the makeup artist inappropriately, she reported it, reported. She told it to Joy, and Joy said, Let it go.

Speaker 1 She said, don't rock the boat. Don't rock the boat.
Again, if, if, if, if, it's not wrong.

Speaker 1 Listen to me. If if we had a makeup artist here and that person.
Which clearly we don't. Clearly we don't.
Very clear.

Speaker 1 This couldn't be more obvious.

Speaker 1 We do not.

Speaker 1 If I did something inappropriate to that makeup artist and then they go to you or Joe or Mel or somebody and say, yo, Mark did this. And she said, yo, don't say shit.
This will fuck up your job.

Speaker 1 Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 That's a power dynamic.

Speaker 1 that's wrong it's not just an opinion that's wrong that's not true now i don't want to sound like a creep yo it's wrong for somebody to do that to you yes now if you come to me as a friend and say yo parks did xyz to me i'm gonna quit

Speaker 1 as your friend i might say yo dog you have children

Speaker 1 Yo, dog, you have a mortgage. Yo, dog, you just got engaged.
You have all of these things.

Speaker 1 Don't make an emotional, irrational decision without thinking it through. But that's apples and oranges.

Speaker 1 No, it is. Because we're here.
We're peers. If a makeup artist does it,

Speaker 1 the host has the ability to decide whether the makeup artist works or not. It's a power dynamic.

Speaker 1 That's why it's not apples to apples.

Speaker 1 You see what I'm saying? That's a great point. That's all I'm saying.
If I said, yo, Parks, I showed you the dog, Parks keeps touching me. And I go to...

Speaker 1 I don't want dog means.

Speaker 1 I go to

Speaker 1 yourself.

Speaker 1 And I go to Joe and say, yo, Joe, Parks,

Speaker 1 and he says, yo, leave that shit alone, right? That's a power dynamic. I don't do this stuff, by the way.
No, Parks is his shit.

Speaker 1 I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm saying that we're not going to sit here and just act phony like niggas won't be like, yo, turn the other way for something.

Speaker 1 So she could be telling her, yo, if you make a big issue here, this could fuck up your job and future jobs because of who he is.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to look out for you. Like, yo, I get it.
Yeah, but your boss can't do that. I said it better than me.
That's where I was going. I said it better than me.
I get it.

Speaker 1 And it could have been some friendship that she said it.

Speaker 2 This literally is a description as to the culture that she's talking about.

Speaker 2 And the culture being extremely toxic and chauvinistic and imbalanced.

Speaker 1 That's literally the lawsuit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if there's no toxic cultures, then there will be no more docs.

Speaker 1 That's a very good point. Twitter would be boring.
Yeah, like I want the Fox Sports doc. I was grateful for the Luigi Mangioni doc.
Or you got a doc fruit? Yeah, they got some shit. shit, Lou, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know it. You know it.
That should be come out a week later.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, but wait, hold on a second here.

Speaker 2 How did

Speaker 2 Jamel catch a strike? Because I know you were defending her on Twitter. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because AB said, ain't nobody want to fuck Jamel.

Speaker 1 Out of nowhere. What's wrong with him? That's the thing, man.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 1 That shit didn't have to happen, man. That shit corny, man.

Speaker 2 Do they have issues with each other?

Speaker 1 He doesn't like Jamel. Apparently, he told me later because he hit me afterward after I responded and said, yo, because I said to him, I said, yo, why are you coming at a sister like that?

Speaker 1 That shit corny, right? And he was like, but it's okay when she comes at me. But it's like, she was criticizing you for your behavior on the court, on the field, excuse me.

Speaker 1 She was criticizing your antics. That's different than just saying, oh, no, out of nowhere, nobody wants to fuck Jamel.
Like, that's not cool. I don't like that.
I gotta do it at all.

Speaker 1 You know, it's not.

Speaker 1 I hate y'all niggas.

Speaker 1 Somebody cut.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm shooting right back, nigga. That's just way of shooting back.
She comes at him.

Speaker 2 I mean, she did shoot back, but why the fuck should she have to? She is a fucking, she's an accomplished, intelligent, dignified, married fucking woman. Leave her the fuck out of this.

Speaker 1 She's minding her own business.

Speaker 1 Just how trick daddy was a few minutes ago.

Speaker 1 I love Jamal Hill, but... Shout out to Jamal Hill.
But

Speaker 1 if a nigga was TTE want to crack a joke, then I'm like,

Speaker 1 I might laugh. Take it to the house, nigga.
I might laugh. Like, we know that Antonio Brown is...
A couple

Speaker 1 screwdrivers short of a toolbox.

Speaker 1 And you just got to...

Speaker 1 I was laughing at you. Me and my girl had a blast laughing at you.

Speaker 1 Because you'll take up the fight. You'll talk to the CTE dude like, yo, my brother.

Speaker 1 Trying to reason with him.

Speaker 1 Peace, peace, peace.

Speaker 1 We're talking to our sister.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Antonio Brown. I know, I know, I know.
I don't do it because I think Antonio Brown is going to act different. It's more so that the people watching this conversation

Speaker 1 get something from it. Like, yo, we ain't got to do this shit.
We ain't got to do drive-by. Mark's such a great guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Jamal Hill. Listen, again, more ignorant takes from Joe.

Speaker 1 I wish that fucking your way to the top for women were more popular today

Speaker 1 than putting an essay on men. Because that's been the game

Speaker 1 for the last,

Speaker 1 I want to say post-pandemic.

Speaker 1 Since pandemic, it seemed like

Speaker 1 some women can just throw a lie on you. And it sticks.
It sticks. Your career is ruined.
I get my nut of this money. And

Speaker 1 I got a little pushback. Give it to me.
And you know,

Speaker 1 I usually give it to me.

Speaker 1 That's kind of the get back. The pendulum swinging the other way now.
Yeah. Like y'all have had all of this power for all of these decades, and now we're getting a little bit of the power back.

Speaker 1 I wish there was another way for me. Something really bothers me.
I wish there was another way for it.

Speaker 2 It bothers me because

Speaker 2 the real losers in this situation are actually victims of sexual assault.

Speaker 2 These are the only losers in this particular situation because the very, very few cases where a woman does what Joy is alleged to do or had been planning to do or carried out.

Speaker 2 These are the ones that make the big fucking headlines and everyone's like, see, look, the pendulum swing too far in the other direction. Me too was fucking bullshit.
This is what bitches do.

Speaker 2 And it's like, no, it's not. Okay.
There's a few, there's a few fucked up apples in the bunch of women that were actually victims. And this does nothing to help their cause.

Speaker 1 And that's what really frustrates me with this particular part of this. I agree with everything you're saying.
I'm just saying that the few is bigger than what we say.

Speaker 2 We'll never, ever, ever have like a full grasp of what the statistics actually are. We'll just never know.

Speaker 1 It's not possible. Yeah.
Because so many women that have been assaulted or

Speaker 1 God knew not to give me no pussy. Let me add a pussy.
Shit.

Speaker 1 You fucking went right to the top.

Speaker 1 You might have had, yo, you might have had some trash. Oh, my lord.
Shit.

Speaker 1 You never know. You know what I'm saying? Like, box might have been trash.
Every girl thinks they shit is fire. Well, then you got to learn to do something with the trash, right?

Speaker 1 Go look and skip new followers. Put some pon salt in that thing.

Speaker 1 You liar.

Speaker 1 Go look. They was like, how much? I was giving out 1.5.

Speaker 1 That bitch is like.

Speaker 1 So, all y'all would give it up for 1.5?

Speaker 2 They would give it up for a fucking apple pie.

Speaker 1 We saw you after the fake lotto game. You would give it up for 1.5.

Speaker 1 Enough of you.

Speaker 1 All y'all niggas would. Oh, no, I would.
We've seen you. I absolutely would.

Speaker 1 Okay, absolutely. And Skip catched me on the right day right now.
I'm like,

Speaker 1 nah, the funny shit, they said, they said,

Speaker 1 Flip said, I mean, not Flip, Skip said, ain't you Muslim?

Speaker 1 Yo, that was wild.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 and that's my topic that I've been suppressing, but in a future episode, I'm coming with the Muslim freaks.

Speaker 1 The ones that, I can't say it,

Speaker 1 but the ones that we have said.

Speaker 1 Don't stop. Don't say it, bro.
Just let it go. I followed something.

Speaker 1 I've had a few, though. Some of the Muslim freaks, right? Yeah, yeah.
I grew up in a Muslim community. I grew up.
I had spent much of my life in a Muslim community.

Speaker 1 And yeah, there's some, you know, but what's the Muslim freak? That's the new church freaks.

Speaker 1 The old church. The old chicks.
You just didn't know. It's a different church.
You just did a child. Different church.

Speaker 1 It's a different church. Oh, my God.
What's skip wife's name to some old shit like Gretchen? Ernestine. Ernestine.
Yeah, Ernestine.

Speaker 1 Winifred. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Phyllis.

Speaker 1 Phyllis. Oh, my lord.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, Aunt Phyllis. I lost my aunt a couple days ago.
Rest in peace, Aunt Phyllis.

Speaker 1 I love love you. She's transitioned in a much better place now.
So shout out to Aunt Phyllis. Shout out to my family.
For sure. Oh, man.
Yeah, if your wife's name is Gretchen or some shit. Trash box.

Speaker 1 A skip.

Speaker 1 If your name is Ernestine, you got a trash box.

Speaker 1 Hold on now.

Speaker 1 You now you go see the houses that was built in 1931.

Speaker 1 They got good walls.

Speaker 1 Good foundation in there. Yeah, that bonus is good.
Yo,

Speaker 1 look, the real 2x4s.

Speaker 1 The real 2x4s right there. Hell man, it'll makes no house.
It's like, boy, bedrooms don't even be this size. I'm telling you.
Ernest Days.

Speaker 1 Your grandmother got some good mouth skin?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Somebody said that to their grandkids.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 That's some good mouth skin. I want to laugh.
I want to take a moment to laugh. And this is a dude that I'll never bring up on this broadcast, but today I'll make an exception.

Speaker 1 Did y'all hear what Jason Whitlock's going to be? Yes, y'all.

Speaker 1 Yes. I hate that nigga.
Now, I've seen everything as it relates to this because I've been searching Joy Taylor since last, whenever this news broke.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I say

Speaker 1 yo, wait, hold up. Let me say that shit publicly.
Let me play it.

Speaker 1 Why? I said that shit publicly. I know what I'm capable of.

Speaker 1 That big rack of hers that she showed off constantly.

Speaker 1 It's just, and that peanut butter skin with that big rack.

Speaker 1 What, Jay? Keep your distance.

Speaker 1 I'm playing it again.

Speaker 1 So, Matt, what's he capable of?

Speaker 1 Hold up.

Speaker 1 Hold up. Let me play it again.

Speaker 1 I know what I'm capable of.

Speaker 1 And that big rack of hers, she shows up constantly.

Speaker 1 Peanut butter skin. It's just, and that peanut butter skin, with that big rack.

Speaker 1 Keep your distance. So, my question is: hey,

Speaker 1 OG. Hey.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, Onk. Like,

Speaker 1 what you capable of?

Speaker 1 I want to ask if that's the mail.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 You see how confident he is? Jason Whitlock? Uh-huh. Yeah.
Why you think that comes from just a foreign place?

Speaker 2 I think it's the Kruger-Dunning effect.

Speaker 1 The who know?

Speaker 1 The what? Freddy Kruger. Freddy Kruger's.
Freddy Kruger not alive, nigga. Freddy Kruger got a fuck.
Yeah. Who's done the Mifflin? Yeah, what? Mark.
Nope. It's all you.

Speaker 1 Yo, why does Jason Whitlock think that he would have went to town on Joy Taylor? Because Jason Whitlock got some bread, got some fame, and probably is accustomed to giving it out.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what he said

Speaker 1 about two minutes after that clip. He said,

Speaker 1 throughout my time in the business, women have come to me a lot and offered me stuff

Speaker 1 in exchange for a TV position. Which speaks to what we saying.

Speaker 1 You ain't got to be the beauty spot to be getting.

Speaker 1 Yo, and shout out to y'all, right? There's mad girls out there that offer me some pussy to get a pod.

Speaker 1 A pod deal.

Speaker 1 Hey, come up here for a second. We sitting on them? No.
No shit on them. Oh, I was about to say, I'm going to.
Get to it, Maha. I'll walk you.
Get to it.

Speaker 1 Get to it. I'm going to call a vacation.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What? If you're going to do it to chase a channel.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 That's his ball.

Speaker 1 My bad. My bad.
I didn't mean that. Yeah, what?

Speaker 1 But it's called for.

Speaker 1 She exchanging goods.

Speaker 1 Bitches will give it up to come pod. Man, girls was fucking a promoter in the club.
What? Who are we talking about? You get this phone in the line on TV. Yeah, talk about it.

Speaker 1 Can we talk about some of the dudes the girls used to fuck? That's hate, right? No. Because I'm not mad at the girl fucking the promoter.

Speaker 1 The girl that fucked the photographer inside, it was like, come on. Nah, not seven days at night.
Not when that shit was out. Yeah.
Nah, seven days, seven nights, nigga. Seven days, seven nights.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 What's popping down now? I wasn't talking about it. All the parties.
All the parties.

Speaker 1 Hold up. She rattled on us up.
I am not.

Speaker 1 Give me Palmel. What'd you say?

Speaker 1 You better, you better retract that bitch. Biggers on the cover like this.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not you. Nah, seven days, seven nights.

Speaker 1 Them bitches was in Mars 2112 with their busy hanging out.

Speaker 1 To be on the front page of the website where everybody sees you? Yeah, now on page 97.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 every time y'all bring something up, I feel like it was one of the best times of my life. It was.
You said Mars 212. Seven days, seven nights.

Speaker 1 What'spoppin'.net.

Speaker 1 Johnny Noonan.

Speaker 1 Good times.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 my heart goes out to Joy Taylor. I do think it's a shame that she's getting dragged more than

Speaker 1 Skip.

Speaker 1 I agree with that.

Speaker 1 She should not be getting dragged more than that. That's the patriarchy.

Speaker 1 That's the patriarchy. Skip is just getting these jokes like, oh, this nigga paying out a million and a half for pussy.

Speaker 1 But like, if Skip has was one of the most powerful people at FS1, if he did what he was alleged to do, his shit to me is

Speaker 1 pay for pussy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you can't pay your employees for pussy. Niggas pay.
You can't. Nigga, you be married for mad long.
You go through mad shit. If shit can come in easy, just go ahead and pay.

Speaker 1 Then get a sex worker. I'm not a fan of sex worker.

Speaker 1 There's no thriller.

Speaker 1 They are sex workers. There's no thrill in second.
No, no, no, listen. There's no thrill.
What the fuck are you talking about? Here's the truth, Mark. They work for you.

Speaker 1 You can't fuck the people that work for you. There's no thrill.
Listen, if I work in TV, I can't fucking talk. There's no thrilling moonlight by the moonlight.

Speaker 1 There's really no employees. There's really no thrill in somebody that gives it up easy.
Like, sometimes the chase is good.

Speaker 1 Not what you're.

Speaker 1 In the suit.

Speaker 1 Skip says, the more you say no, the more I want you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the beginning of time, nigga. Nigga, that's

Speaker 1 wrong. It is wrong.
Yes, we know predatory and all that shit. But listen, niggas pay for sex, bro.
Niggas pay for fashion. Niggas pay nothing.
Don't succeed. Dush yourself off and try again.

Speaker 1 Niggas pay not to have a headache. There's a lot of shit niggas pay for.
But why they gotta work for you? I'm not saying don't pay for sex. Because it's convenient.
There's no issue with you.

Speaker 1 Because you're not going outside, nigga. It's convenient.
You right there. It's convenient.
You look good. You in my face.
Listen, I got 1.5 if you shut the fuck up. Give me some pussy.

Speaker 1 Whatever you want.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 Is that it?

Speaker 1 You think no stopping? You think that's what it is? Why should I be stopped? Because it's the truth. It happens.
No, no fucking coercive. No one is saying it don't happen.
We're saying it's wrong.

Speaker 1 A lot of aggression. Listen.
I don't want no smoke, bro. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 It's not supposed to happen, but that's life, Mark. That's all I'm saying.
You acting like it's far. I was wrong.
Yes, it's wrong.

Speaker 1 This shit been happening since Cleopatra days, nigga. I don't even know what happened.

Speaker 1 We're the beginning of the time. We're making it normal.
I'm saying that. You thought Marilyn Monroe was the greatest actress? Exactly.

Speaker 2 She actually was a pretty

Speaker 1 good actress, but you thought Marilyn Monroe. No, she was great actress.
She said, Happy birthday to the president for the nigga wife, nigga. She was a great actress.
His wife was great.

Speaker 1 She was a great book.

Speaker 1 Here you go.

Speaker 1 There you go. Marilyn Monroe sang happy birthday while the nigga wife was there, nigga.
Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 What's that price?

Speaker 1 Timeless. Timeless classic.

Speaker 1 She didn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Bro, I got two others. I want to move on.
Anytime I start agreeing with Cliff too much.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 1 Let's get out of this.

Speaker 1 Nah.

Speaker 1 This shit was so juicy. You just can't fuck your employee.

Speaker 1 Just don't fuck where you want.

Speaker 1 I'm saying, as a good rule of thumb, to boy, all this shit, this is how Shannon Sharp is not in any drama right now.

Speaker 1 He's not named in the suit at all. No.
And that's what he said. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I don't know nothing about anything else.

Speaker 1 I'm saying just don't fuck people yeah i heard what jason whitlock had to say about truth yeah jason what like is i mean i don't listen to jason whitlock unless he's talking about people that i do listen to right going at stephen a or some shit yeah yeah yeah jason whitlock be saying wild i mean and what i will say is this

Speaker 1 We're not getting rid of fucking coworkers, by the way. That's never happened.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's never happened. I'm not saying you have to.
I'm just saying if you want to be safe. Sure.

Speaker 1 It's a good rule. It's a good thing.

Speaker 1 But fucking your employees is always a bad rule. Does everybody here feel like you should not fuck your coworker?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 At my mature age, yes. When I was younger, no.
Ice?

Speaker 1 Yeah, now. Mark? Now, yeah.
Ish?

Speaker 1 No. Flip? No.

Speaker 1 No, I'm against them. No, fuck your coworker.
Yeah. Fuck you talking about.

Speaker 1 We both grown. Ish, how about your employees, though? No, I won't fuck my employees.
I've never fucked none of my tenants in my life. No life.
My tenants have been a lot of people. Neighbors,

Speaker 1 neighbors, coworkers. You can't fuck them little Mexicans.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 They niggas work hard, dog. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 They might feel like they don't need to build that house so fast.

Speaker 1 They got some leverage.

Speaker 1 This is what I was saying.

Speaker 1 I'm not wishing nothing on nobody. But

Speaker 1 when I watch ESPN,

Speaker 1 I could see it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can.

Speaker 1 I've been saying that for like a year. I don't know what to say.
What I've been saying is Santa shit on the bottom. I've been saying it for a long time on this mind.

Speaker 1 And when I watch, like, I could see through the on-screen shit. Yeah.
It'd be shit to see. It do.
The show behind the show.

Speaker 1 So, of course, I don't want ESPN to have to go through that.

Speaker 1 But I'm assuming that

Speaker 1 many companies had meetings and, you know, talks. Yes.

Speaker 1 A lot of some of these things

Speaker 1 reinforce some of the rules. Any type of, if you have any relations, y'all have to disclose that.
It has to be a disclosure immediately. Anything, y'all kiss.

Speaker 1 we got to know about it because now the company got to be have some way to be protected right because if that employee come back or somebody come back

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah y'all have to sign off so that the company's not held liable with whatever y'all do and the problem is they can't sign because most of these executives that do it is married yes and there you go

Speaker 1 i don't have anything else on the map

Speaker 1 i think i've said all the ignorant shit that i need to say about it do what you got to do shout out to the coworkers that are fucking out there for sure shout out to the girls that are fucking their way to the top but doing it the right way.

Speaker 1 How about the news?

Speaker 1 The two people on the news that was fucking each other that got fired. Remember them? They didn't disclose each other.
The white lady and the black guy. The black guy.
You know what?

Speaker 1 I don't know the story. I don't know the story.
Oh, yes, you do. You know the story.
Just tell me the story. I don't know.
You don't remember.

Speaker 1 Oh, famous. Oh, you talk about TJ and Jesus.

Speaker 1 Oh, look, that's your man. Oh, TJ.

Speaker 1 TJ Holmes. So he gonna pass.
He got in the past. No,

Speaker 1 my issue with TJ, there's two issues, right? One is a professional issue. It wasn't him fucking his co-host.
Amy Suck. Amy Sun.
And it wasn't just fucking at a relationship. They had a relationship.

Speaker 1 They left there. But he was accused of also fucking the producers, the intern, all these other people.
Let me ask you this. That would be my issue.
Fucking your co-host is fine. Everybody's an adult.

Speaker 1 Let me take it off gold. If you're a record exec, can you fuck your artists?

Speaker 1 No, I don't. I don't think you should.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think it's always fucked up. I think it's always fucked up.
I get it happens. And I get sometimes it's genuine, but I think it's fucked up.
Okay. That's my only question.
It wasn't a trick question.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just think it's generally fucked up. Because usually, some it's hard to be consensual.
It's hard to be consensual when there's a power dynamic. That's the point.

Speaker 1 Or, or it's a gray area where you don't know if it is actually consensual because she might be or he might be fucking you.

Speaker 1 And assuming everything is consensual within the power dynamic, everyone's okay with everything, it can get sticky and bad for business. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 And relationships end, it's just a bad rule of thumb in general.

Speaker 1 Skip

Speaker 1 Dykeman,

Speaker 1 The D.C.

Speaker 1 D.C.

Speaker 1 Atlanta. Atlanta.
L.A. Plenty of places you could buy some pussy for less than 1.5.

Speaker 1 You buy a lot of pussies for all the pussy. For less than 1.5.
For 1.5, you can probably get all the pussies. For less than 1.5 thousand.
What the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 1 $1,500, get it done, nigga. Go to DR.
Hey, we got some girls right there in Dykeman, nigga. They got you.

Speaker 1 Go to NY.

Speaker 1 You got to get on no boat.

Speaker 1 What you talking about? You don't got to get on no plane. Come right to New York.

Speaker 1 My heart goes out to all parties involved. Indeed.
Shout out to the hairdressers spilling that tea.

Speaker 1 When the tea is hot. When the tea get hot, all you got to do is talk to the hairdresser.
Not shout to her. That's it.
That shit was packed. Shout out to tea, nigga.
Fuck the limp. Wait, why not?

Speaker 1 Shout out to her. For blowing the lid off of this fucking organization.
This ring nigga. And she lost a job.

Speaker 1 Don't bring Shorty into that. Well, she got smoked with Shorty.
That's all I read from that. Yeah, don't bring Shorty into that.

Speaker 1 You could do all of that with the entity, with the network, with all of that, without bringing joy into that no i got small board i disagree and she possibly could have like left her name like one of the she got 25 she got 25 john doe's on there as well but yeah

Speaker 1 the joy stuff adds to adds to the credibility of her story right

Speaker 1 and it's one of her beefs like i went to the person who i worked for and she told me to not to cover it up to cover it up like that's a legitimate like concern you can still say that without saying all that other shit too that's something i i agree with that's why i wasted my body she just wanted to put on a blast yeah she just wanted to put this.

Speaker 1 She wanted to put on the black black. Nah, I think she's making the case.
She's like, look, the only way she got this job of fucking Acho allegedly. This person, she got this job by fucking this dude.

Speaker 1 Basically, saying the only way in this company you can advance is by fucking somebody. And that's your only example? And this hate.
If you're the hairdresser, that's your only example. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's the only thing she got to do. That's the only example.
What is it going, man? If this is the culture here, there's more than just Joy Taylor that was allegedly doing that. And you got 25.

Speaker 1 Here's why, though.

Speaker 1 Here's why, because you got gossip. It's the difference between gossip and saying, she told me this directly.
Like, when I was in Fox, I knew a lot of people Bill O'Reilly was fucking, right?

Speaker 1 But I didn't, I Bill didn't tell me that, you know what I mean? So, I couldn't do that, but I could look at, but when somebody was telling me something directly, I could put that in my mind.

Speaker 1 You wasn't a hairdresser, though. But that's what I'm saying.
Hairdresser get it,

Speaker 1 they get all the gossip from everybody. But you're not stopping.

Speaker 1 That's it, man. Yeah, that's right.
That's right. She took a nigga from Joy.
She took a nigga from old girl.

Speaker 1 She had a beef over. Yeah, it does seem like it was a folk.
That's some personal shit. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 Acho had a long day, boy. Hey, hey, Acho.

Speaker 1 Hey, you can't delete it fast enough, buddy. Nah.
Yo. Nah, they kept the files.
He had some horny-ass videos.

Speaker 1 See, but my heart always goes out to the person that's home in bed, cuddling with the current person that they fucking. And then some old shit pop up.

Speaker 1 And now it just rocked your whole nest. They pulled out Joyce shit, too.

Speaker 1 They pulled out Joy shit when she was like, yo, let's keep it a buck.

Speaker 1 The dude that's handsome, the dude that got some money, the dude that got some power. He got a way longer leash to fuck up than the other people.
We'll overlook some shit.

Speaker 1 The red flags go away when the nigga got money, power, or they really, really good looking.

Speaker 1 She's a fact, so somebody tweeted. Why are y'all surprised about this Joy shit? Like she's not from Miami.

Speaker 1 Now, that's horrible to say, and it's not funny. But boy.

Speaker 1 But I understand.

Speaker 1 Chris Ross said, but I understand. Ocean.
Ocean. I'm Miami.
That dying on the corner again.

Speaker 1 I'm Miami, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, my Lord, man. Listen, my heart goes out to all.
Yeah, Tariq and my heart. I have the most fun in Cleveland or whatever.
Tariq.

Speaker 1 You got to be careful what you wish for. Wish the city.
Yeah, you got to be careful what you wish for.

Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else is important, unimportant?

Speaker 1 We had a little breakthrough. What happened? We started doing our kitchen talk as normal.

Speaker 1 And Mr., my dear guy,

Speaker 1 has been converted.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say converted. I wouldn't go that far.
Don't fuck with me. I wouldn't go that far.
No, but Corey made an interesting point, which was that when Joy got into the business, they were,

Speaker 1 she wasn't a powerful person there. She was a part-timer.
She was a fill-in, and that she got the makeup artist the job

Speaker 1 on her show, and that neither of them had any power, and that they were friends. And so their dynamic and conversation was more as friends than as a boss to employee.
I think that's a great point.

Speaker 1 That changes the dynamic of that person. That changes the life.
That's it. That changes a whole piece of that.

Speaker 1 And that goes to what I said when she tells her these things. I'm talking to you as a friend saying, yo, don't make no ripples.
Don't make no waves because this could fuck you up.

Speaker 1 And Shorty goes on to say that every time she went to dinner, when she would pull up in the restaurant, it was Joy and Dixon, Dickerson, whatever the guy's name is.

Speaker 1 So I'm inviting you in here as my homegirl. We friends.
We got a personal relationship. After hours, I'm inviting you as my homegirl.
You know, I'm not trying to be funny.

Speaker 1 Girl, that nigga got some money, girl. Come on here.
Get that caviar and that shrimp, girl. That nigga be paying for anything.
girl. Get the time off.
Like, you know how this shit go.

Speaker 1 Like, we acting like we don't know how that shit goes. We know how else that goes, though.
Don't say shrimp again, it's trigger.

Speaker 1 How'd that go? A 3-3.

Speaker 1 Dickinson might have got.

Speaker 1 It might have been dickin' them, son. He was dickin' him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but so I think that that's a very good point. You a freak, yo.
Cool.

Speaker 1 You're a crazy. crazy.
I'm a realist just like you. Rich niggas.
He's a vanilla freak, though. He a freak, but he ain't freaky.
You mad freaky. I'm not.
He got these little saddle effects.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's silly, but I'm potting. But, dog, we know rich niggas get somebody to be able to do something.
They get you some. Yes, they do.
Fuck. Yo, you and you.

Speaker 1 We were just talking about that the other spot.

Speaker 1 Yo, straightened up. What were we talking about? I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 About guys with power that will come into a room and put the girls on the PJ. Yo, you and you.
You come. No, not you and you.
You, you, you, you, you and you.

Speaker 1 turks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do y'all not think I'm speaking to the men now?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 She did a breath. No, she did a little.
She said,

Speaker 1 I did not do shit. Do y'all not think, well, everybody in here is involved, but in the event that you were not, do power dynamics come into play with most people you fuck?

Speaker 1 Even if they don't work with you, just because of who y'all are? Oh, you talking now.

Speaker 1 I said up here before, y'all killed me. In every relationship, there is an alpha.
Good job, Ish. In every man-woman, man-man, woman-woman relationship, there's an alpha.

Speaker 1 So, there's a lot of relationships where the woman might be the power dynamic. It's a lot of women that wear the pants in these relationships.
Well, that's a power dynamic. You're right.

Speaker 1 That's why I do want to ask Mel, too, the same thing. Like, in your

Speaker 1 romantic affairs outside of work, do you feel like there's a power dynamic with you?

Speaker 1 Or do you feel like, no?

Speaker 1 Like you are who you are.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't classify it as a power dynamic more than I would classify it as

Speaker 2 somebody maybe just having a tendency to manipulate.

Speaker 1 What do you think about that, Mark?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know enough about Melbourne.

Speaker 1 I don't know enough about Mel's personal relationships to know the answer to that.

Speaker 1 Do you think that

Speaker 1 all of my IG posts are manipulation? No, for fuck's sake.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen her. I haven't had the privilege of seeing her IG too much.
I just thought I'm bothered ads because I'm trying to support the show. Thank you.

Speaker 1 The boy Blurke.

Speaker 1 Y'all can't fuck with Mark girl at all.

Speaker 1 That nigga break the press by himself.

Speaker 1 Y'all come to the blocket.

Speaker 1 Round of of applause for Mark for winning rookie of the year at the JBP.

Speaker 1 Round of applause for Mark for winning rookie of the year at the JPC. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Smoke Damani and Jay Juan.

Speaker 1 This is Monty's second year, I thought. Huh? I thought this was a Monty Sucker year.
Clean it up for him, Park. I'm trying to do it.
Clean it up. Smoke Damani's boots on the Rookie of the Year, vote.

Speaker 1 A lot less games played. Still won it over e-book.

Speaker 1 Let me keep the applause going for me. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 one best dressed out, this bitch. Yeah, I mean, come on.
Come on, man. I got to take what I can.
Take what I can. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 Y'all don't seem happy, but all right, move on, move on. Let me move on.
It's fine. It's fine.
This is all I was going to say to tie this up: is that power is everywhere. Every relationship got power.

Speaker 1 Every dynamic has power, whether it's money, whether it's influence, whether it's looks, somebody's more attractive, somebody got more options. There's always power.
Education. Education.
Education.

Speaker 1 Always power. The question to me is, is the power coercive?

Speaker 1 Does this power force your hand in ways that aren't fair that's the only thing i care about for example like when you if you if you if you can't date a co i'm using that as an example because i you know i spend a lot of time in prisons you can't date a co right because people do they definitely no i don't yeah i know

Speaker 1 they they do but again to me that's always coercive there's no way to know until you leave that prison you know what i whether you ever whether it's whether it's fair or not the part that i don't like about that take is power is

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 cunning power is silent power is power can coerce you without a word being for sure

Speaker 1 that's all my only issue with that you every girl you've dated no disrespect so you know this is my people but yo every girl or a percentage

Speaker 1 big people's nigga watch him he knows my wife watch him out

Speaker 1 i'm saying i'm not being disrespectful to us

Speaker 1 most women you've dated you've been smarter than

Speaker 1 um except my wife here

Speaker 1 like i said not not

Speaker 1 most many not most not not all except not all i ain't say all but you clean it up so that that is a power dynamic. Mark be used.

Speaker 1 He does.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Back in the day.
Nigga, me and you.

Speaker 1 What we did? What we did.

Speaker 1 We just.

Speaker 1 Anyway, yo, fam, so if you're saying that power is coercive, when you are talking to a girl and you,

Speaker 1 yo, dog, now, let's just. I feel what you said.
We're friending up here. But here's the question.
Here's the question. We've talked our way into some pussy.

Speaker 1 Maybe. Sure.
It's just your bad. But it's power.
But it's like coercion. Yes.
You are using, You are mentally manipulating somebody to potentially do something that they

Speaker 1 convince somebody to give you some pussy. Convincing isn't coercing.
That's the difference. I can charm somebody into making a choice.
That's different than... It's not coercion? No.
No. No.

Speaker 1 No. No.

Speaker 1 What I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about people operating against you. Your therapist told you the very same thing with regards to dating younger women.
Joe, you are way more intelligent than them.

Speaker 1 You speak better than them. So you can mentally manipulate somebody.

Speaker 2 You move the goalpost by saying

Speaker 2 that the person is younger.

Speaker 1 Coercion is the practice of. They don't have to be younger.
Let me give you. You don't have to be.

Speaker 1 Give us some definition. Coercion is the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.
Oh, that's what I call it.

Speaker 1 You're not going to take that. So we're going to take that.
So, Tef, definitely not. But the force, and that's why I say, when you are somebody's boss, that's coercion.
No. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 We had a different definition. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You're saying not forceful or you can always, we always talking ourselves into stuff and charming and convincing. That's the world.

Speaker 1 I don't got no problem with that. I just don't want people to be in situations where they feel like they got to fuck their boss or they feel like they got to fuck their boss.

Speaker 1 I think that's the R-word.

Speaker 1 Sure, okay. You know, I don't know if I would use that word, but I think that's the R-word.

Speaker 1 It's fucked me or you fired? I think that's the R-word. At the very least, it's harassment.
At the very least, there's a gray area there, too, because that's what is presented that way.

Speaker 1 On the other side, you have people that say, hey, if I fuck him, I might can advance a little bit. I might can do this or that.
That ain't coming from the powerful person. That's the the subordinates.

Speaker 1 The subordinates looking too big.

Speaker 1 Or going in there trying to get it. So when they was 10.
And I heard stories of them wearing certain things to an interview. Girls were doing that shit in college.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just a great, exactly. They was pulling up all Joy Taylor's old outfits that she wore to work.

Speaker 1 Every one of them.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Were they provocative? And it's fucked up.

Speaker 1 I ain't see it. Because they ain't going to let you on the air unless you dress like Ellen.
I was just getting ready to say. How do we know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They don't let you on the air if you dress like Ellen. But

Speaker 1 you got to wear that shit to get on.

Speaker 1 And she's from Miami. whatever the system you're talking about.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The whole thing is fucked up.
That's all I'm saying. It ain't Joy Fault.
It ain't nobody.

Speaker 1 I believe that Skip is powerful enough to not have to pay 1.5 to 10. That's fucked up.
Yeah, 1.5.

Speaker 1 I think so too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have we seen...

Speaker 1 Dog, if Robert Kraft ain't got to do it, Skip ain't got to do it. And he makes Skip look like a welfare case.

Speaker 1 Facts.

Speaker 2 I just think. Yeah, but he was going to the fucking rubbing tug.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you just got to. What does that

Speaker 2 mean he was going to the place where there was an expectation of there being a transactional sexual encounter.

Speaker 1 Sometimes wifey had the rubbing tug, man. That's your

Speaker 1 consistent clientele. I'm going here for Barbara.

Speaker 1 I'm getting there six damn, yo. Yo, Shannon here to get her.
Damn. What the fuck? Going over there to get that Nancy Reagan, man.

Speaker 1 Wow. Look at that.

Speaker 1 Nice takeaway.

Speaker 1 What'd that mean? I don't know what that means.

Speaker 1 Nancy Reagan was known as the throat goat in Hollywood. In Hollywood.
Wait. What are you doing? You're talking about that.
And that mouth took her to the White House. Facts.
Facts.

Speaker 2 What'd you say? Like, good mouth

Speaker 1 skin.

Speaker 1 Inside skin.

Speaker 1 That's a known thing. I never heard that before.
It's a google-able.

Speaker 1 Her biographer says, yeah, she used to be known on the MGM lot, not just for doing it at night, but doing it in the offices. Well, where the fuck is she at? Dead.
Sorry, she passed away.

Speaker 1 And if she didn't pass away, nigga, she would be well within her 80s or 90s.

Speaker 1 Grandma, tell you what happened when the ditches come out now.

Speaker 1 Don't you ever do that again. Nigga, I smoke all

Speaker 1 wow. He can't suck a bitch.

Speaker 1 I ain't crying. He can't suck shit.
Exactly. The fuck was that? Damn, Dancy Gregan, for real.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she was a beast.

Speaker 1 She was like celebrated for it. Like she was like the tough.
Yeah, she was tough. She was superhead before Superhead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's the head.

Speaker 1 And I ain't mad at Superhead neither. Nope.
I ain't none of us mad at Superhead, but.

Speaker 1 Only one person here to just be mad at Superhead. I'm waiting for the Superhead app of Hot and Bother is what I'm waiting for.
Do y'all have beef? Or beef? Hold up. I saw it.

Speaker 1 No, we don't have beef.

Speaker 1 They have beef on it. We don't have beef.
They have beef. We don't have beef.
Melissa is mad at what Superhead's book did to all of the video vices. Okay, I'm not mad.

Speaker 1 She has feelings that she hasn't

Speaker 1 healed yet. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 Again, with the narrative. Bullshit.
No.

Speaker 1 Man, you said this country.

Speaker 2 I didn't say that I'm not healed.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying I didn't. I'm not healed from it.
I just talk about the I talk about the event in history from the perspective of which I had it.

Speaker 2 Currently, I do not feel these things because time heals all wounds. I'm fucking over it.
But it was shitty at the time.

Speaker 1 All right, so y'all pieced it out.

Speaker 2 With technically pieced it up. I haven't seen her.

Speaker 1 So you're not healed.

Speaker 1 No closure. No closure.
Only true healing comes.

Speaker 1 Got to get that closure.

Speaker 1 Does anybody here care about Drea going to the game with her kid to see her kid? I hate that shit.

Speaker 1 I hate that shit. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I'm not usually judgmental. But it's up about taking your 22-year-old boyfriend to see your 22-year-old, or take your 22-year-old kid to see your 22-year-old boyfriend play basketball.

Speaker 1 Give us some tips.

Speaker 1 I hate it.

Speaker 1 Trey is good.

Speaker 1 I hate it. I just hate it.
It might be my own personal shit. I just don't think you should date somebody the same age as your kids.

Speaker 1 Or that's fair. Works with you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Narrowing the pool down. Yeah, to like night, to like 99% of the world, right? Like,

Speaker 1 you can live with that. I don't want to date nobody.
My kids are. I agree with that.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't do it. Also, in a little teaser, that's what shook up the vacation house, too, Corey.
Oh,

Speaker 1 that is exactly what shook up the vacation house. It really is.
What? What happened? I could only imagine because I know the people that were there. Oh, I know.

Speaker 1 They was steam coming out of their head.

Speaker 1 Because Corey met some young ladies that were,

Speaker 1 let's say, 27, 28. Okay.
Some people in the house had children that were 27, 28.

Speaker 1 I got to give it to C-Rock man. I got to give it to Corps.
Me no speaking. I really got to give it to Rim.

Speaker 1 I really got to give it to Rem,

Speaker 1 but it still was on core to even... Rem is Chris Paulin? Yes.

Speaker 1 Dog.

Speaker 1 Word? No, she's better than Chris Paul. No, it wasn't Chris Paulin.
Stockton, Scott Scowson, that 33-assist.

Speaker 1 That 33-assists gave him a game.

Speaker 1 Yes. Wow.
Yeah, because we go to the New Year's Eve party, party, which is at like some bullshit playing at Hollywood, some out-of-town bullshit. The only shit that was available to us.

Speaker 1 We had to make do.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And we got in there, and I did a little scouting mission, and the two that were in front of us were the best talent in the house. Good talent.
Good talent. Talented young lady.

Speaker 1 Rem is the ANR. Shoot, yeah.

Speaker 1 They did.

Speaker 1 They got my man Corey assigned. Didn't speak much.
There was a translation barrier, but not with old Remara. Got it.

Speaker 1 Rem went and stepped right to the business. Facts, quick, and sealed it,

Speaker 1 sealed it, bagged, signed, sealed, delivered, I'm yours. And brought him home the Universal.
Brought them home.

Speaker 1 Universal. Brought them over to the table, had a blast, was trying to work something out for the night.
For whatever reason, that didn't happen, but they was ready.

Speaker 1 And then the next day, they hit Rim in.

Speaker 1 What you doing?

Speaker 1 What's this? Corey bum ass. Corey's such a bum, yo.

Speaker 1 The assist thrower. She was doing that shit at your way.
Corey, the only single nigga in the house. He's gonna bring these two stallions over.
They were stallion? Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 One was a stallion, one was slim and beautiful, like Corey be liking him.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 and oh yeah, I got beef with Corey. One was a swan, one stallion.
Corey is a shady nigga, yo.

Speaker 1 So the tall, beautiful, slim woman who now, again, it's nothing but relationships on the trip.

Speaker 1 So, niggas is OGs. Soon as Corey goes, get these two.
I'm back in the cabana hiding somewhere. Nigga, jamm me up.
Cut my eyes out.

Speaker 1 I don't see nobody.

Speaker 1 I don't see nobody.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kino did the same. And it looked like Corey had rhythm with the tall, beautiful girl that didn't speak much English.
And she was ready. She was ready to dip.
Let's go. That's the night.

Speaker 1 It's party time. Party time.

Speaker 1 And then somewhere within the course of like five minutes, Corey is now not on the tall, beautiful girl.

Speaker 1 Switched on him. He switched and got on the short stallion.

Speaker 1 I didn't like that from Corey. That's a mistake.
I didn't like that from Corey. You gotta be singular in your target in these situations.

Speaker 1 That was really disgusting of you, Corey, how he switched like that. So then he was hugged up

Speaker 1 or extra communicative with this.

Speaker 1 What you clapping about?

Speaker 1 Oh, you think that's fly? They jumped you?

Speaker 1 Oh, you like that movie.

Speaker 1 Kukos. All right, never mind.
Never mind. I forgot where I was at.
So wait, what happened? Room full of ultras.

Speaker 2 What happened with the tall one? Since you went with the swan, what'd the tall one do? Just stand around doing it?

Speaker 1 He had gone with nobody. It was with both.
Well, the tall one

Speaker 1 ultimately had a man.

Speaker 1 And when they came over,

Speaker 1 when they came over the next day,

Speaker 1 I guess he wasn't pleased that they was over there. So she dipped off to use the phone.
But we had a DJ set playing throughout the speakers.

Speaker 1 It was no quiet area for her to run and talk to her man. Yo, she went off to talk to a man.
Nigga, Bugatti and R. Kelly was blessed.

Speaker 1 Yes, da, yes, nah. She yes, da.
Check her man that went to rear in front of her. She talked about something.
Yeah, no, it's loud. It's loud.
It is.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I don't hear no spanning.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she had to get out of there. We're in this beautiful big ass mansion overlooking the monkeys and grasshoppers

Speaker 1 and rainforest. She had to go

Speaker 1 table about 20 minutes. Hey, Corey, invite them bitches over for breakfast.
How did the fuck Corey up? This is the good breakfast. Dude, Kino made some good-ass fish.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We had mad people at the table. Corey feeding the bitch fish.

Speaker 1 Corey at the table feeding the bitch. Niggas, right? And it's a pool.
Yes. Is that a pool? Yeah.
Is that a bad? Yo, what?

Speaker 1 Look. Yo, don't feed your scragglers our good fish for breakfast.

Speaker 1 We barely made it. The one good meal.

Speaker 1 Wait, what? What? Britch ain't going no guys' trips.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. You got punishment? Poor.
You.

Speaker 1 No, but I mean, she says, I can't go on no guys' trips anymore.

Speaker 1 And her reason being,

Speaker 1 I've stopped too many girls' trips, but I don't believe that. You stopped the girl's trip? That's what she say.

Speaker 1 I don't recall that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I endorse the girls' trip. Me too.
I'll fund that bitch.

Speaker 1 Go, I'll sponsor the trip. Yeah, smart.

Speaker 1 She probably talking about one of them carnivals.

Speaker 1 Wow,

Speaker 1 there is probably visits. Yeah, there's some

Speaker 1 carnivals. Trinidad, yeah, last year.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Try to go this year. She need to call Dr.
Ari, cut all that shit off, and then go take the girl's trip.

Speaker 1 What? Yo, shut the fuck.

Speaker 1 God, you got the old shape, big, and stupid now. Tom,

Speaker 1 I miss you. Go get your ass over here.
It's going to be tough for me to find a private eye at the carnival.

Speaker 1 That's going to be a little more expensive than that little Miami private eye.

Speaker 1 It's going to be crazy, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so we're done with Drea. Marcus Discussed it by Drea.
Cool. Is there any music? Is there any music that we've been in?

Speaker 1 Bad Bunny. Look at Barker.
I'm looking at that lady.

Speaker 1 Bad Bunny.

Speaker 1 Yes, that album is absolutely incredible. Musically, it's probably his best project.
He's did a lot of infusion with salsa, which he's Puerto Rican, so he's really played into that shit.

Speaker 1 The last album was more Dominican music,

Speaker 1 merengue and shit like that. Absolutely incredible album.
Absolutely incredible. I haven't heard it yet.
I'm going to listen to it. I've played it 30 times.

Speaker 1 Like, playing with my fucking shit. Mother-in-law in the car, all that shit.
She's loving it because it's it's got salsa old school vibes.

Speaker 1 Like, you just like the beating stuff because you don't understand what he's saying. I understand what he's saying a little bit.

Speaker 1 Like, I can't do like a direct translation, but I understand enough Spanish to get the gist of the song. And if I have a question, my wife speaks Spanish, so I'll be like, What are you saying?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Absolutely. I don't have that shit.
It just sounds good. That's all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't need to.

Speaker 1 Get him dancing. Yeah, I don't really have to know, but I know.
I don't know what he's saying.

Speaker 1 Anybody that's taking some level of Spanish is going to understand a little bit of this shit to be like, okay, I get what he's, I get, I get what he's stepping in. Quarante.

Speaker 1 40. I gotta hear it.
$40 Hills.

Speaker 1 Absolutely incredible. C-Sin shit?

Speaker 1 Yo, something's wrong with you, son? Stiletto?

Speaker 1 There we go. That's it.
That's it. What the fuck are you talking about? Shout out to Bad Bunny.
He don't miss. I am going to check it out.
I know that's Parks, man.

Speaker 1 I ain't been listening too much, but this

Speaker 1 He killed that shit. I ain't gonna be a little bit more.

Speaker 1 He really did. Woo.

Speaker 1 Hey, listen, buddy. This shit is a slide.

Speaker 1 It sounds like Banny Fraser. It sounds just like Manny Frax.
I mean, Juvie on the remote.

Speaker 1 J-Sap.

Speaker 1 That's Juvie's little cousin. On the credits, it says that Lamello produced this.
Oh, for real? Oh, wow. It says he produced and arranged it.

Speaker 1 It says that Lonzo wrote it, and it says that L'Angelo performed it. Oh, wow.
Oh, we're going to keep this money right in the family. Wow.

Speaker 1 I love that about them. Yeah, they do.
And Labar Ball. They do.
Yeah, you got to.

Speaker 1 I fuck with, listen, even y'all niggas that never got y'all BBB sneakers, it was still a great idea. It was an amazing idea.

Speaker 1 He just needed to use the good glue on the soul because Lonzo had broke his ankle. He was already battling some injuries when he put the shoe on.
What he should have did? He ain't broke his ankle.

Speaker 1 Should have taken one Nike deal or one major deal.

Speaker 1 Got the information. Got a little bit of information and used that deal to

Speaker 1 fuel his other ventures.

Speaker 1 You're right, but fuck Nike. I'm so glad at the players.
I ain't like how they did Kyrie. So I like their stock dropping and all the players putting out their own sneaker, whether it's hot or not.

Speaker 1 Or going to other smaller brands, like it's another smaller brand that my man

Speaker 1 is an endorsee of, and he got some equity in it. And the shit is kind of fire.

Speaker 1 I don't, you know,

Speaker 1 this shit do sound like a big timer's record to me. It does.
It sounds like Manny Fresh is on that shit. That Juvie coming on there going right after that hook.
Yeah. Going crazy.

Speaker 1 They really sound like Juvie on the hook. It sounds like Juvie.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love them with all of this 2002, 2003 Madden, all of the memes that they're coming out with. All of the just...
I like the song. I like the song.

Speaker 1 I like the song. I ain't going to lie.
Sorry. I see what's going on.
I'm dark ass in his ass. No, sometimes

Speaker 1 dope. Just dope.
Yeah. Yeah.
Y'all think he got an album in them? I'm not going to go that far. Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see. I think a lot of these niggas got an album in them.
The EP?

Speaker 1 Yo, you got to think some of these boys grew up. They grew up on that.
They grew up on it.

Speaker 1 This ain't Alan Iverson doing 40 bars again again, where they like, wait, wait,

Speaker 1 introjecting hip-hop into the NBA. Get this shit the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 This is a new era.

Speaker 1 Like, all these niggas grew up literally on hip-hop.

Speaker 1 So, yeah.

Speaker 1 This shit is hard.

Speaker 1 They're not from New Orleans, are they?

Speaker 1 I don't know where they're from. They're from LA.
I'm not LA. From LA.

Speaker 1 Interesting. All the new babies are from L.A.

Speaker 1 Like 20, 20, however old these niggas are.

Speaker 1 So stupid.

Speaker 1 I'm as worried they're gonna

Speaker 1 lie.

Speaker 1 I might request that motherfucker at the strip club. I was skeptical when I saw it going viral.
Let punch play. I was like, oh, no, that shit is hard.

Speaker 1 I thought they were doing the internet shit again.

Speaker 1 All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I gave him a little head nod. I saw a couple DJs put their videos up.

Speaker 1 I dropped it in the club. Shit worked.
I'd like to hear it in the club. I would.

Speaker 1 I'd like to hear it with the power dynamics in play.

Speaker 1 Yo, if that shit come on when I got the power dynamic,

Speaker 1 oh my God.

Speaker 1 Do some coercion.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Telling them, whoa.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Ace, they reviewed the Drake freestyle while we were gone.
What did y'all say? Because I didn't watch. Did y'all like it? I did.
Yeah, I did. I did.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I like the Drake freestyle as well. I saw the complaint of everybody saying how they didn't like he rhymed

Speaker 1 pretty much like the same rhyme flow throughout the entire freestyle. Shut up.
I think that's bullshit that y'all are even now, y'all don't like it because when him and J.

Speaker 1 Cole did it on Evil Ways, I loved it.

Speaker 1 Like, I think people are looking for a reason to now not like whatever Drake does. If you do something, my only thing that I hated about the freestyle was one, that oven line.
That was trash.

Speaker 1 I didn't like that line. What was the line?

Speaker 1 Clothes was closer than kitchens and ovens. Yeah.
Ovens and kitchens.

Speaker 1 I just didn't like it. I feel like he's had

Speaker 1 cringy balls.

Speaker 1 In the spirit of keeping the rhyme scheme going, I wasn't mad at him. That did.
That's it. I just said I didn't like the line.
And ovens and kitchens do be close.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 well,

Speaker 1 they're more than close.

Speaker 1 But whatever. It don't make sense.

Speaker 1 It don't.

Speaker 1 But I fuck with the freestyle.

Speaker 1 I wanted a CDQ quality. Of course.
That's it, of course. That's it.
Like, he'd been quiet for a minute. Finally, he...
Threw something out.

Speaker 1 It don't sound brand new like he just did it last night or something.

Speaker 1 Niggas left over from the scary hours hours sessions. And he's teasing more conductor shit.

Speaker 1 It had the four wires. I don't know if this is a scary hours four coming.
That's all produced by a conductor or something. I'm excited to hear it.
I already think that's what that meant. Conductor.

Speaker 1 Okay. Conductor.
Yeah, those were the conductor

Speaker 1 wires.

Speaker 1 I thought he's rapping his ass off. I enjoyed it.
I haven't enjoyed a Drake track in a long time, probably since what, Family Matters?

Speaker 1 I thought it was great. I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed hearing, you know, that back to that, that, it's lonely at the top, Drake, that it's, you know, everybody's disloyal to me, Drake. I don't like that.

Speaker 1 That shit was a nothing but a LeBron distract.

Speaker 1 Well, that's exactly what it was.

Speaker 1 I think it was Brown. I think it might have been a little bit of everybody.
Man, I think that shit was Brown.

Speaker 1 I think it was

Speaker 1 Bronze.

Speaker 1 We'll give it away. I think it was the Watchers.
The Watchers gave it away for me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was very specific. And I don't think DeMar DeRosen was at the Hamptons party.

Speaker 1 And Drake is right. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, yo,

Speaker 1 I can feel him and connect with Paul. I can feel what he's saying.
I can connect with his energy on this. And I usually, again, don't, I'm not inclined to do that.

Speaker 1 But not only was he rapping his ass off, but he was like, yo, this was fucked up. This is how close we were, and this is what you did.
I thought it was the vulnerable Drake again.

Speaker 1 It was the rapping Drake. I respected the track, and I liked it.
And again, he was rapping his ass off. And I thought rapping that same cadence was actually, was fired.

Speaker 1 That's difficult to do.

Speaker 1 I want to say that for the people that don't know that that is difficult to do. I saw Rob Markman say the same.
Anybody that has has tried to do it,

Speaker 1 that's difficult to do. So

Speaker 1 salute to him. But they had not told me.

Speaker 1 Come here. My bad.
Apologize.

Speaker 1 That's the part I don't like about it is today they just run and say, oh, you could just use AI and just punch in a bunch of words. And then, like, fam, it's not easy to rhyme.

Speaker 1 Like, everybody, if everybody, if it was that easy, everybody would be blind.

Speaker 1 It should be different.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, like, y'all, it it just seemed like you grasping for reasons or excuses to try to discredit some shit instead of just saying, all right, I see what he did here, and it's hard.

Speaker 1 Go back, my fault.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a nice sweatsuit, too. Yeah.
Oh, thank you. Let's try to keep that best dress streak alive.

Speaker 1 He got pressure on him. He got pearls on the ziploid.
That's nice. No, I had to do retail therapy to survive my over-a-month stay

Speaker 1 in wherever the fuck I was staying at. Thank God for my

Speaker 1 experience.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 And niggas call me.

Speaker 1 Your man over here, the blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 And on top of it, you don't like you. You've been doing your whole life.
You don't like you fell off at all. Your man at dinner with his son, I'm looking at him.
I'm like, damn.

Speaker 1 You was at dinner with your son? You was at dinner with your son? I mean, I have dinner with my son sometimes.

Speaker 1 Recently. Yeah.
I don't. How's everything? You've been okay everything all right

Speaker 1 uh yeah i've been looking at your wrists uh this whole time of the podcast the right one i see a new uh bracelet on there no that's not new

Speaker 1 excuse me my business okay this is new

Speaker 1 damn how you see that that one is new oh okay sorry i will shut the fuck up

Speaker 1 it's not pocket watching pocket watching 2025

Speaker 1 we had the conversation I'm not pocket watching. I'm just saying that, you know, you look healthy and you look happy.

Speaker 1 Retail therapy is how I survived being displaced for over a month. Nice.

Speaker 1 And if you are displaced from over a month, you cannot do too much retail therapy because there's nowhere to put to store the shit.

Speaker 1 You load it up to that little big hotel lost.

Speaker 1 There's no way to walk in there.

Speaker 1 I'm so grateful for my years and years and years of tour life experience.

Speaker 1 To help me cope

Speaker 1 with

Speaker 1 having to be in a fucking hotel for that long. Hotel room in a month is regular shit for tour.

Speaker 1 And at least now is a nice hotel. And you had a suite.

Speaker 1 And without having to perform. You had a suite? It was the same hotel.
They all suites. You got to pick up, go leave, go to a double again.
They all suites. You stayed at multiple?

Speaker 1 The first few weeks I had to hop around. Oh, that's holiday season? Yeah, you got a lot of fun.
The first few weeks is very difficult

Speaker 1 to find a room that's

Speaker 1 there for like two and three weeks. And you don't know how long.
Because you're thinking, like you said, they tell you a date. You're like, all right, we're done.

Speaker 1 Then, nope, nope, another date, another date. So you.

Speaker 1 And, and, I'm going to tell y'all. I'm going to tell y'all.

Speaker 1 This is what I learned in my mom.

Speaker 1 And this is local news now, which we are getting to local news for a second.

Speaker 1 That residence in is a lot better than Ombi.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 It's too mixy. On you're too mixy.

Speaker 1 Every time you get in the elevator, that shit stop at every fucking floor. You see every bitch from your past

Speaker 1 on the sixth floor. You see everybody, you know.
Every residence in,

Speaker 1 everything is a suite. You get the kitchen, and ain't nobody nowhere.

Speaker 1 Everybody's a family over here. Everybody with the kids.
I wouldn't know. That's it.
I've never been in neither one of them. Well, I've been in the Onview when we was doing that.
Antoine Marby.

Speaker 1 I've been in the Enview when we was doing the

Speaker 1 planning. The planning shit.
Yeah. Antoine Marby, yo.
Stop doing it. I went to Enview when we was doing it.
I heard you already. I'm just saying your your name, my G.

Speaker 1 Probably never even been in there outside of that.

Speaker 1 How much work?

Speaker 1 Big ass.

Speaker 1 You that nigga is stupid. No, it's just a man.
I was getting to something. I don't know.
Oh, Drake is what we was talking about. Listen,

Speaker 1 I'm not saying nothing about this because...

Speaker 1 I've said everything about Drake that I need to say.

Speaker 1 But it was a few bars in here. It was funny.

Speaker 1 First of all, that whole,

Speaker 1 this is probably the only part where he didn't keep up exactly with the flow he was doing. And I don't like that flow.
I'm over that flow. I'm tired of that.
I'm tired of rhyming on a three.

Speaker 1 That's his thing.

Speaker 1 That's his thing. He's mastered it.
He's done it. I want to hear him get off of that, but I'm not here to be negative.
I don't even know what that means. Yeah, I looked at part of the bar.

Speaker 1 There's four beats in the bar.

Speaker 1 There's four beats in the bar.

Speaker 1 Three, four. He's in the rhyme of the three, too.

Speaker 1 He keeps dropping the rhyme on the three.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And when he tries to get freaky, it's the one and the three.

Speaker 1 It's odd, but it's his. Fire.

Speaker 1 That

Speaker 1 don't make me have to ruin your public image. I don't like public being public, but

Speaker 1 for the flow. I know.
For the flow.

Speaker 1 But what do y'all think about that bar? I was about to say it was the snitchy part to beat him. What do y'all? That's what I don't like about it.
Right. The threat is

Speaker 1 close to the theory that why Brian wasn't fucking with him no more. Don't make me have to ruin your public image.

Speaker 1 I've heard different theories that that wasn't actually about LeBron, that that might have been about DeMar, and that that might have been about how DeMar, when he was broken down in Toronto, was so emotionally an emotional wreck at the crib when he was helping him emotionally.

Speaker 1 That's public already. All right, so what's his public image? No, but Damar.

Speaker 1 Damar's depression is public. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 the idea was that he was going to talk about how.

Speaker 1 How would that ruin your public image, though? I'm asking, what is DeMar's public image?

Speaker 1 I'm not saying that that's the answer. I don't know if DeMar got enough public image for you to pay for it.
That's ruined his public image.

Speaker 1 To me, that's Brian. Depends on you.
I hope not. Depends on you.
That's Bron. That's public image of the squeaky, clean family man who ain't got no smut on him.
I'm with you. I can ruin that.

Speaker 1 And then there was the rumors of why his wife was so happy to be at the pop-out and all of that. And I don't want you around him no more.
Yep. That's what I took from it.
I heard all that.

Speaker 1 I heard it the way you heard it. But then other people, maybe they were just caping for LeBron or for Drake.
They were saying he wasn't, Drake wouldn't do that. He was actually talking about DeMar.

Speaker 1 He was talking about this person. He's talking about that person.
People trying to find an alternative to him just ratting out. That's all it was about LeBron James.

Speaker 1 Fighting Irish?

Speaker 1 The Fighting Irish freestyle? Yeah, no, I'm with you. I get it.
I think it was about LeBron, but I've heard other theories. I'm just saying there are other people saying some other shit.

Speaker 1 I don't claim to know. If it is about LeBron, that's a a funny bar.
Why would you say that? It's fucked up. It's fucked up.

Speaker 1 I don't think he would ever do that. But put it past him.

Speaker 1 Don't threaten me with no snitch. That's enough.
That is doing it. Don't threaten you, nigga.
The fact that you threatened a snitch is enough to get you. That can make my household a little rock.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. That's my goal.
And Savannah already don't be talking to LeBron, Lil Friends.

Speaker 1 But that wasn't the funniest bar to me. I'm fast-forwarding to the funniest bar.
Nah.

Speaker 1 This nigga is a sassy little nigga. Hold on.

Speaker 1 Listen to this bar. You can't help yourself.
Only him put. Oh, no.
Listen to this bar. I got a subtle addiction.
I got my father's habits and I got my mother's permission. My dad has another child.

Speaker 1 I told him that wasn't my sister. Grew up with dozens of Jews.

Speaker 1 I ain't get that one. I don't care.
Yo,

Speaker 1 guys, I just pictured. My dad has another child.
I told him that wasn't my sister.

Speaker 1 I don't fuck with him. Yeah, but some people be on that.
Yo, that's lying, live, yo. A lot of niggas be on that.
That's funny.

Speaker 1 Baby, nigga. It's still funny to say it.
Yo, can I? I want to comment on that. I don't give a fuck about Drake's daughter that y'all are looking for or Dennis's grandkid.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 Right. This witch hunt that y'all on, even if y'all fine, I don't care.

Speaker 1 It's so

Speaker 1 it's 2025. I'm not Drake Kendricking my 2025.

Speaker 1 I feel like we're going to have to live through this forever. I love that line.
No, I'm not doing it no more. I don't want to, but I feel like it's going to.

Speaker 1 They got to do something new for me to get back on. We did it.
It was six months. Everybody got paid.

Speaker 1 Everybody got paid. Everybody did the content.
We all got up. Us, Lucian.
Everything. It's over.
They got to do some new shit. And I do think some new shit will happen this year.
I think so.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's going to have to happen. I love that sister line, though, man.
To me. That is the funniest.

Speaker 1 Drake is a laugh.

Speaker 1 I thought he was... Because remember earlier in the rap, when he was saying that I thought I got another brother with LeBron, right? He thought he'd come along with another brother.

Speaker 1 So he's saying, like, even my blood, I don't claim as a sister, but I thought you were my brother. Like, hey, bye, bye.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 To me, that shit was actually kind of dope when he tied it back. Tied it back.
That's a Ph.D. shit shit you just did right there.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think of that. That's a goofy.

Speaker 1 I'm just getting. I could be wrong, but that's what it seems like.
If he said that, that's goofy. I mean, if he was referring to potentially ratting on a nigga, that is some goofy shit.
But

Speaker 1 him being upset at a nigga that you might have thought was genuinely your friend and your brother, I I don't think that's goofy at all. Me neither.
I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at.

Speaker 1 Pardon me.

Speaker 1 The vulnerability of it.

Speaker 1 UMG took the damn, right? Yeah. Yeah.
And I don't think it's been put anywhere. It's just on YouTube.
Which is interesting.

Speaker 1 Any takeaways from that? Throw the lawsuit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that's what it is. You're doing us.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 You don't get to put out music.

Speaker 1 the lawsuit

Speaker 1 you don't know artists you don't just get to drop music if you're signed to us anybody that drops a song out of nowhere on whether it be Instagram or something or YouTube or something the label's gonna come and strike it down if we don't have no we didn't okay it yeah but them doing well them doing that to drake is different under this under why regular circumstances i don't think they would have a problem at all with

Speaker 1 a drake or any other large artist dropping a song however they wanted to they don't care yeah they're gonna make some money they're gonna make money

Speaker 1 but any other artist any artist that that size drop drops.

Speaker 1 Yo, what the fuck is up with you? What you want?

Speaker 1 Any major artists wouldn't even do that. They're going to drop what they label because they're making the money with them.

Speaker 1 The big names are in, they're working with the labels. The labels are doing whatever the big name wants you to do.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure that all the battle records that were getting dropped on IG were all sanctioned. I don't know.
I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 1 It might have been. Because some of them didn't get released, so that kind of says that

Speaker 1 that was just some hey i'm kendrick i'm dropping this song what i want hey i'm drake

Speaker 1 what i want drake came out with a song friday night 20 seconds later kendrick put some shit out yeah i don't know if that got clearances first

Speaker 1 yeah i had to step on this nigga shit fuck the paperwork right you know what i mean you have to yeah good point party next door uh tweeted p5

Speaker 1 which

Speaker 1 People are now saying, hey, hold up, big dog. Like, whatever the players, the Drake and party record? I think all

Speaker 1 official releases from Drake is going to be on hold until they get some clarity in these lawsuits, I would imagine. I think that Drake got to be,

Speaker 1 and I'm not the biggest fan of the Drake and conductor shit. I've said that.
I'm on record with it. It's not a surprise.
Don't try to kill me for my take.

Speaker 1 However, I don't think none of the good, good rapping is going to

Speaker 1 is going to

Speaker 1 I think his biggest bout is with his label saying you're on the downside of whatever it is you're doing and we're treating you like that

Speaker 1 so the good rapping is great for the fans that want to hear great rapping

Speaker 1 at some point i think he has to do something to dispel the label thinking that which is why everybody keeps sitting around waiting for the slap for the hit right for the hit yeah i think he i think he's

Speaker 1 torn because some niggas be like y'all want to hear that hit shit i want you to rap nigga you just hip-hop nigga

Speaker 1 And they dissing him for, yeah, we know you can make hits. You got to do both.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 He's always, he's always.

Speaker 1 He never lived both. He's never been in this position in his life.
That's true. He's never been in this position in his life.
He's always been the label darling.

Speaker 1 And they suck in my dick and I can do whatever I want. He got contention there.
He's always been.

Speaker 1 Outside of the pusher T shit. And the push or T shit was a punch in the face.
This Kendrick shit was a body slam and the stop. He never been here.

Speaker 1 So he don't, he's trying to please everybody. I'm accustomed to being up here and everybody reveres me.

Speaker 1 This is probably the first time in his life, at least in the last 20 years, that he might be more

Speaker 1 disliked in the public than he was at one point, than liked.

Speaker 1 He's never experienced that. And the other side is you always had the labels backing.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 you always had the machine.

Speaker 1 So now he's never been in this place before.

Speaker 1 You're going to see we put you there.

Speaker 1 I think it was a marriage. It was a marriage.
It was a marriage, but

Speaker 1 we had just as much,

Speaker 1 we're just as responsible for that as you are. You think you can do it without us, and you keep trying.
And I also think,

Speaker 1 I think he got shit, and he don't want to release it with them.

Speaker 1 And we got beef. So if we got beef,

Speaker 1 you know what I'm saying? I think he got fire. And

Speaker 1 I want to get away from y'all. So I want to hold my fire so that when I go somewhere else, I can immediately release my heat and be like, fuck my dick.
I could still do this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You hear what what I'm saying? Like, that's my personal opinion. I think that he got some shit in the tuck.

Speaker 1 And as soon as I get over here to wherever my new situation is, I'm not positive he wants to get fully away from them either. He might just want better terms for where he's at.
It's possible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He may go to one though.

Speaker 1 Maybe, maybe, it's possible. Just speculation.
I think he's looking out for whatever's best for him. I agree.
Which he should at this point. Which he should go for it.

Speaker 1 So you had business dealings with Sony, right?

Speaker 1 I'm not sure. I don't think so.
His OVO imprint was weird.

Speaker 1 That I don't know. Let's look it up.

Speaker 1 I remember him having some type of something with Sony. So wait, when he was an imprint of Warner.

Speaker 1 Warner. Warner, yes, yes, Warner.
Distributed by Sony in Republic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Warner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, above my Patreon shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So when you're signed, you can't put any music out if you want to.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's what I hear from artists. I'm not supposed to, right? like it's it's artists that can't even go do a freestyle

Speaker 1 can't go and upload anything

Speaker 1 depends on your standing yeah it depends on your standing with the label and then you got other people that find a way to leak something and if it bubble enough yeah we'll pick that up

Speaker 1 and we'll oh oh shit you do got something all right now let's get involved and let's put some money behind it so it's it's it's a battle but it's a pecking order when you at the top usually you can do what the fuck you want to do what you're coming to do can do the fuck he wants taylor swift can do what the fuck she wants Kendra can do what the fuck he wants.

Speaker 1 But you beefing with us.

Speaker 1 So you at the top, but you're still beefing with us. We're not going to try to do nothing to help you.

Speaker 1 We're not going to let you put out a dope freestyle and catch some steam that might incentivize you to put out another shit. You know what I'm saying? Another shit.
No, nigga. You trying to leave us.

Speaker 1 We want to hurt your leverage. We want to hurt your leverage.
We want to kill your value. We're going to kill all of this shit.

Speaker 1 Did anybody here hear Wham, Lil Baby's Project? I did. Yeah, I'm halfway through.
I listened to it a couple times. I tried a couple times.
Give it it to me. Give it to me.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 I'm seeing mixed reviews online. It's not that bad.
Yeah, it ain't as bad as the internet for me. It wasn't horrible.

Speaker 1 I found it rather unspectacular. There's a couple slaps on there, but for the most part, it was kind of just

Speaker 1 cool. I tweeted before this album came out that I have very low expectations, and this is probably the one project that I am hoping to be proven wrong about.
And I was. Like, I fucked with the album.

Speaker 1 It's maybe four records that I could do without.

Speaker 1 It's some that are definitely going going on the playlist um i would have liked him to have some other features i i do get tired of hearing this same little group of him 21 future thug like i don't really want to hear that as much this is where i want to hear drake i would have loved to hear drake besides this is where i wanted to hear drake so when we came in i said that he put the deluxe out i thought drake would have been on a deluxe yeah he did drop i didn't get a chance i thought drake would have been on a deluxe especially for him to put it out that early and it didn't get as many good reviews as he might have hoped for.

Speaker 1 I thought that Drake would have been on a deluxe. And that would have been his.
Still requires clearance. True.
I got a question. That would have been

Speaker 1 his secret weapon. You know what I'm saying? Still goes right back to this conversation.
Yeah, still.

Speaker 1 I got a question. Wait, wait, real quick.
What Drake features have we gotten recently? Zero, the Kasana Cabello.

Speaker 1 All of them pop shits. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 That's a great point. That's it.

Speaker 1 And that was still before. And that was pre-beef.
He just pushed it back. Once the beef got heavy, he pushed it back.

Speaker 1 All right. What you were saying, Fries?

Speaker 1 Coach KMP sold QC, right? Do we know if they're still active in like running it? Yeah, I think that was the report when they first sold it.

Speaker 1 Because I was trying to see where shit went a little different with Lil Babies and Music. And I'm like, if they sold it.
And they might have been like the

Speaker 1 A ⁇ Rs behind it, That could explain some things for me. So I was just wondering.

Speaker 1 P.A.'d me recently about some QC shit. So I would assume, yes, if I'm assuming.
Two, when you sell your shit, typically they ask you to stay on for a

Speaker 1 long period of time to run it. To continue to run it.

Speaker 1 And to try to answer your question, I was telling Parks Outside, I actually like this little baby shit. I like it too.
I like it. I was just expecting more, I guess.
See, now, I think.

Speaker 1 Being that people have been saying for a couple years now he fell off or whatever, whatever, I was kind of expecting him to try to prove extra hard that he hadn't.

Speaker 1 It's solid. It's just not.

Speaker 1 I don't get what do people expect from Lil Baby Dolly. That's what I'm going to ask you.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Lava, to answer you. Like, I think there was a period where anytime you heard his voice, it was absolute.

Speaker 1 Insanity. It was lava.
It was it was boiling. And then we get tired of it, or it gets to be the same thing for too long.
And now people are starting to say, I want to hear something else from you.

Speaker 1 So I say, again, what are y'all expecting him to do? Well, that's, if I have to critique this, and let me play a little bit first because

Speaker 1 I do like it. But again, I'm not the Lil Baby album fan.

Speaker 1 I don't go into Lil Baby albums expecting

Speaker 1 Ilmatic. Did you hear my turn? The album? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That is a phenomenal album.

Speaker 1 Whatever. at its peak.
That is its peak.

Speaker 1 That's his peak. That's his only album.
No, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I'm sorry. Excuse me.
The one afterwards. The one afterwards.
It's only me.

Speaker 1 But that was his first album. Again, you know, like you said, you got your whole career to make your first album.
Everything else has been mixtapes. Right.

Speaker 1 And I try not to judge artists at their peak when you have all cylinders firing. Like, I want to hear you.

Speaker 1 In your gunna moment, when things are down, when the fans are a little iffy on you. I want to hear what you're coming out with.
But that's a good example of what kind of I expected, I guess, as a,

Speaker 1 I'm a little baby fan. I'm not like a die-hard fan.
Like, I don't know my turn back and forth. I've listened to it a bunch of times.
I kind of expected a gun of moment from him, I guess.

Speaker 1 And it's worth time for it. The shit is, it's not obviously as bad as it was for Gunna, the world against him, but people have turned on him a little bit.
I was expecting a bigger show.

Speaker 1 And I did see an interview with him where he said,

Speaker 1 Like I'm kind of it's a little harder for him because again at this point in hip-hop I got to watch what I say Yeah, true.

Speaker 1 Well so I can't really get into too much I got to kind of be a little well That's what I was gonna tell you on my critique of the project I can by by the second half this shit got a little redundant to me like some of the songs get to sounding the same and it's just all a blur, but production-wise Even if the beats sound like another beat you heard, all the beats are fire.

Speaker 1 And I could see people get my barber was tired of his sing-songy repetitive flow, but I think that's largely due to the content changing. He can't talk like he used to talk,

Speaker 1 and on this album, you hear him not talking like that. Yeah, so it's fire to me, but

Speaker 1 it's not what we're used to from Lil Baby. But this intro,

Speaker 1 come on, man,

Speaker 1 come on, man.

Speaker 1 New crib in another state, the duck off.

Speaker 1 You get on my nerves, bitch. Fuck off.

Speaker 1 Run away, train, out and took off. I move with a purpose, give them the right influence.
That's how I'm the big dog. I'm with the clappers.
I better not throw a punch. Free all of the rappers.

Speaker 1 Hope they get a missed child. No more spending more than I'm saving.
Letting this shit power. Living kitty, that shit was corny.
I had to switch style. Atmos on the crib, confirm session eight, man.

Speaker 1 This shit wild.

Speaker 1 I took the little bros and I mowed them, they know to hold it down I got lots of dollars and yens and a whole lot of pounds I lived in conditions, you can't pay niggas to go around We in Miami, PJ to the BP, I can't lie, this shit okay for me Lock me in the studio all night, but she gon' wait for me She told me she treats you like a lame and she don't play with me She say I'm her favorite nigga These niggas backwards They get a little money, spent it all and then they ask for something I grew up with million dollar hitter, still ain't ask for nothin' Fuck it up, I'll probably get a friend or something Run my money up in like a month or something.

Speaker 1 I'm with the hushers. Running circles around these rapping niggas, no discussion for me.
I got niggas still stuck in the trenches. It should be fucking with me.

Speaker 1 I was shaking emails on the plane, and she started sucking on me. It ain't no bush damage.

Speaker 1 And you know what? That's hard.

Speaker 1 This is absolutely crazy. What the fuck?

Speaker 1 This is how you start out.

Speaker 1 This is absolutely crazy. That song is called Listen Up.
It's track number one.

Speaker 1 Also, I don't want to talk like his content is changing

Speaker 1 because he can no longer incriminate himself. I don't think that's fair.

Speaker 1 He could just grow. He grew.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And let me tell y'all, all of that other shit that y'all see him doing, the showing the house off, showing the art piece off,

Speaker 1 that's an expensive publicist that's doing that rebrand.

Speaker 1 That is costly. It's costing him six figures to change how he is viewed.
And fans don't be wanting to see you grow.

Speaker 1 No, they don't. Yeah, they don't.

Speaker 1 I think 21 Savage went absolutely crazy on this album. His verse streak continues for me.
This is track two, Dumb, Dumber, Dumb, Dumb, and Dumber, Young, Thug and Future.

Speaker 1 I think Thug and Future went crazy on this.

Speaker 1 Four stones and the L D's at the bottom. Yeah, this is how I want my Lil Baby sound.

Speaker 1 This is how I want my Lil Baby sound. RF records play a duck to catch it up, you know.
Tricky niggas, tricky niggas, you know.

Speaker 1 Supercar driving, bush screen flying, designer win, golden child, you know. That beat is beat.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 One of my new favorites.

Speaker 1 Drive away like a mini dealer.

Speaker 1 He went sideways cutting bin and dripped. Crack smoker, I was living with them.
Weird hoes, I ain't dealing with.

Speaker 1 Overseas, they love a real niggas. She don't like it, but she dealt with it.
Broby's back to back, that's too many. Here is round the corner, that's us.
Putting on stuff, bitch, dress.

Speaker 1 Flip phone, black nagging tank. We done done it all with me.
I'm snagging name on the chip. These first ones come through trumpet.
Ipset, Jim, don't be fucking life up with a fucking hustler, holler.

Speaker 1 She know not to test me, I'ma call her. Try to let him cook, but I really won't get the dog in future.

Speaker 1 I don't see a scratch, hope she ain't mine. She don't got me tower.
Holy D me if I'm locked up for real, real. I've been having my way the whole time, for

Speaker 1 two lamb coupe, four lamb trucks. Pulling up, wet, wait, fuck, fuck.
Nick, reach finger, slushy. Order 100 G's, that's us.
New rose colour in that truck. Dog on the side like.

Speaker 1 This is a complete side note.

Speaker 1 Apparently,

Speaker 1 present to be, Donald Trump said he's going to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of Mexico. Gulf of America.

Speaker 1 And he get in Canada, too. I just read that though.
That nigga's crazy, man. He is nuts.

Speaker 1 I'm going to name the Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 1 He's comedy. He's definitely comedy.
He's comedy for sure.

Speaker 1 Can he do that? I don't know. Probably.
Depending on who named it.

Speaker 1 That's a white shit.

Speaker 1 Never heard a rich nigga fucking heard these niggas going out sad. Driving truck came with a bag.
All these fucks can oversee shit. These U.S.
bitches kind of bad.

Speaker 1 College bitch, I made her leave a friend. Fuck my brother, gave the bitch a pass.
Trappin' in the studio, I'm glad. Brick a bell to jacket, get the trash.
I was taught the pale bitch to leave.

Speaker 1 I go burst Chanel for the fleas. Four em at a time like a sheep.
I've been on a boat screaming ski. Saint Lorenz bring it to the beat.
She was swatching Key and Middle East.

Speaker 1 She snouted off the key. Got a screaming RP to key.
Our niggas can't stand us. Uh-huh.
Doggin', put your mans up.

Speaker 1 This shit is hard. Yeah, it is.
This is hard. It's on the record.
This is hard.

Speaker 1 Alright, alright. I wait, Future.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, hey, hey. Oh, talk to these niggas.
Hey, say, gang, pump it on feet like syrup. Elevator pad at the critter.
Chopping bags all on the floor. Never seen me twice for the whole.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 He just reminded me of when I was humble.

Speaker 1 He just reminded me when I was humble. He will do that, won't he? No, he just reminded me.
We was in Costa Rica catching a vibe. Here goes stupid ass Corey.

Speaker 1 Hey, y'all see that boat out there with the helicopter landing? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all.
Bernardo, no. Bernardo,

Speaker 1 whatever it was. Bernardo.
Bernardo, no. Oh.

Speaker 2 Oh, Salma's husband?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I made

Speaker 1 That shit was like a three-story fucking

Speaker 1 $150 million yacht with a helicopter pad. We saw that motherfucker.
Landing, taking off, landing, dropping people off. I was like, all right, we got to get out of here.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go. Backyard vibes by the ocean.
Driveway look like a car show. 250 million on the go.
Custom level pushy on the door. 50 birds of dog on my wrist.

Speaker 1 Future is fucking great, man.

Speaker 1 He's great.

Speaker 1 He's... Look, I might.

Speaker 1 Might get 80. He's bucking.
He might get 80 a turn. He's bugging out.
Cocaine drop. Did you pay ice yet? Yeah, why are you in my pocket? He said, yes, he did.
You did? All right, good.

Speaker 1 Why are you in my pockets? Oh, you're my man. So you can't.
I pay money out of my pocket because you're my man. Well, he's my man, too.
Oh, got you. Gotcha.
Knock my bitch. 32 shots with the glitch.

Speaker 1 Talking fix, then we talking Chris. Might crow, mini with a bean.
From the side hole, then Selene. Kicking out the millions like a bean Push a button to make his mama greed eat it up.

Speaker 1 She working for a boss out the country living like a boss.

Speaker 1 Power dynamics

Speaker 1 She working working for the boss

Speaker 1 This song is great Check out the rest of the album on your own time. I do see mixed reviews online and I understand it and I understand it

Speaker 1 I like it

Speaker 1 I like it I like it too.

Speaker 1 I like it. I like it too.
It ain't I don't dislike it. I think it's cool.
I don't think it's as bad as

Speaker 1 it ain't trash. I think they're going to wait in the hate.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It ain't trash.
I do think that. It ain't bad.

Speaker 1 In 2025, I hope we can bring back the fan. Nope.
It's over. I would also like to bring back

Speaker 1 levels to the review.

Speaker 1 It doesn't have to be either amazing or trash. It can admit also being trash to most people now, colloquially.
So there's literally no, it's either good or it's either classic or trash. Trash.

Speaker 1 I think they are. And this album is good.
It's not great, but it's a good album, and that's That's okay. It's a good album.
Hey, look, it's better than his last album to me.

Speaker 1 And that's what I needed this to be.

Speaker 1 These tracks you just played,

Speaker 1 are they exceptions, or is this how I feel through the whole album? Listen, it goes.

Speaker 1 Listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 1 I'll give you a

Speaker 1 quick. That was one and two.
Here's three.

Speaker 1 I'm now playing off the phone.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I didn't want to hear this. I skipped this.

Speaker 1 I can't hear this after what I just heard.

Speaker 1 Cool, though.

Speaker 1 It's the Glorilla shit. No, that's next.

Speaker 1 That's next. This is.
She cleaned him up too. I promise.
Glorilla, man.

Speaker 1 You rappers are going to have to be careful ass going to get on your joints.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, like this.

Speaker 1 It's hard.

Speaker 1 Get up early here and get us some links. We rock to infinity.
I don't care to have these women in my business, but I like your energy.

Speaker 1 Couple niggas probably feel like fuck me, cause they can't fuck me. You ain't getting money, you nothing, and that shit stuck with that.

Speaker 1 Uh, Glorilla.

Speaker 1 Come on, come on, buddy.

Speaker 1 They did not stop making bad bitches when they made you. Red bone, slim dick shit, she on the twitch.
That's why I used to tell these bitches, yo.

Speaker 1 They ain't stopping making bad bitches when they made you.

Speaker 1 Score red bone.

Speaker 1 I'm so hood, nigga, so high class. My ride truck got rim.
Like I'm paralyzed, my spine broke. Can't turn it back on my twin.
I'm so deep boy, and I stay fresh. One more time in my ten.

Speaker 1 I'm so damn slow. Respectfully, I'm gonna

Speaker 1 be a bitch.

Speaker 1 Hold up, hold up, stop.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Hold up, stop the beat lil' baby. Let me talk my shit.
Hey, my ex say, y'all be shitting on them. I'm genuinely poppin' shit.

Speaker 1 All my ops still broke, sit. Ain't that bad a bitch? I don't do no young niggas.
My youngest hoe like 36. I'm acting still you with the dick.
He must don't think that I'm a hoarder.

Speaker 1 They did not stop making good dick when they made choice. Better be lucky that I like you, cause these niggas get ignore it.
But don't play with me. I get niggas.
You like one to four.

Speaker 1 I don't think about you, hoes. No, I just think I'm the sheet.
Sell a big man.

Speaker 1 I ain't begging on niggas. Stay up.
I'm quick to let them meet. Yeah, it's a million more bad bitches, but I ain't none of them bitches.
Me

Speaker 1 listen.

Speaker 1 Glorilla is the current feature I would pay for right now. Same.

Speaker 1 That's the one. Yep.

Speaker 1 I can't think of another one.

Speaker 1 I still pay for a 21 feature.

Speaker 1 I would holler at Mises and try to get it done for free. Well,

Speaker 1 I'm a rapper. I'm just saying, if I'm a rapper, I'm saying Glow, I don't have a relationship with somebody that could send it to me.
I'm paying her to get that verse for sure. And it's a single.

Speaker 1 Oh, for sure. It's definitely a single.
Lead single shit. Yeah, no.
Shout out, Lil Baby. Shout out to Glow.
Really, absolutely love what you're doing. Phenomenal year last year.

Speaker 1 Phenomenal year last year.

Speaker 1 They say Ice Spice sold 4.8 thousand copies first week. I didn't know she dropped it.
Of that, I'm just a girl, deluxe. Ah, okay.

Speaker 1 Still a new one. While I have y'all here, is I'm just a girl counterproductive to the women empowerment movement? I think it is.
I often clap back and say, no, you're a grown woman. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some of them don't support the women empowerment movement.

Speaker 1 That's really what it'd be.

Speaker 1 Well, they do when it's convenient. All right.

Speaker 1 In the workplace, yes. At home, no.

Speaker 1 That's the next hot and bother. Why you get quiet on the Drake topics?

Speaker 1 Not for real. That hot and bother?

Speaker 1 Out of here.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you. You'd just be stealing our sauce to forgive you.
So go ahead.

Speaker 1 This is why I don't have a pan 100 drink freeze out. All right.

Speaker 1 Conjugate been asking for. Here it is.

Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else? What else? Shout out to Lil Baby. Shout out to Drake.
Shout out to L'Angelo Ball.

Speaker 1 Is there anything else in music that is super important or not important? Not super important, but well, super important to me. I want to shout out the Red Man, yo.

Speaker 1 I listened to the Muddy Waters 2 album.

Speaker 1 I didn't know what to expect because I haven't heard a new Redman album in years.

Speaker 1 And I like this shit.

Speaker 1 I saw, I think it's like 32 tracks. I was like, oh, oh,

Speaker 1 I'm not about to listen in like 32.

Speaker 1 I wasn't. I fuck with a large portion of this album.
32? It's cool.

Speaker 1 It's in a lot of the literature. It gets in there and shit.
It's not 32 songs.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you surprised me. So salute.

Speaker 1 And he had a crazy Jersey posse cut on there that we just played it on the pod last week. Oh, okay.
I wasn't here.

Speaker 1 Who's on the Jersey posse cut? We released it to the public. You could have listened.
No.

Speaker 1 Everybody from Jersey, Minus Joe.

Speaker 1 It's like Rod Digga and everybody. Yeah,

Speaker 1 Trech. Trech.
Jones Vinn is on it. Trech.
L from

Speaker 1 Artifacts is on it. Lady Luck, Nikki D.

Speaker 1 Shaq.

Speaker 1 yeah you the only that ain't on it don't get mad

Speaker 1 and uh they put shaq on it they didn't call you

Speaker 1 shaq rap shaq rap rap i consider you a better rapper than shaq is all i'm saying i just wanted you to get the call too that's all

Speaker 1 i love

Speaker 1 i i love what

Speaker 1 shout out to red man man shout to red man everybody know it was a great it was a good part of

Speaker 1 it

Speaker 1 that's why you're talking about

Speaker 1 i told you like yo that you need to call

Speaker 1 i thought you would have at least gotten the call I wanted you to get the call. You would have probably told you.
Rest in peace, K-Slay.

Speaker 1 Anytime that nigga called me to jump on the track with all 700 of them niggas, I hung up on him.

Speaker 1 You would have had to say yes to this one.

Speaker 1 Maybe the Jersey card gets it done, but. That's what I'm saying.
K-Slay used to call, like, yo, got this great idea. You and 900 people.

Speaker 1 How many bars I get? Four. Four.
Niggas, you get the fuck off of my phone.

Speaker 1 I get four bars to clean up 900 people. That math ain't, that's girl math.

Speaker 1 That's not enough. I don't heat up to him.
That had to be like

Speaker 1 how many bars they got? Everyone's song was five and eight.

Speaker 1 I need more than aid to clean up red and all the girls. Ate.
They did. They did.
The women ate.

Speaker 1 I'm guessing Lauren wasn't on it either, right? No. Oh, no Fujis.
No Fujis. Okay.
They might have called her. She just said, get to the studio.

Speaker 1 She showed up just now.

Speaker 1 Actually, speaking of Tretch, I want to give y'all the playlist of the DJ in Costa Rica as we were waiting for New Year's Eve.

Speaker 1 We got some Tone Loke and Young MC.

Speaker 1 A lot of Mr. Worldwide.
Pit Molly. Pit Monday.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Flowrider.

Speaker 1 Slow rider, T-Payne.

Speaker 1 We got some YMCA. YMCA for white people's electric slot.
Yes. Oh, yeah.
It's fun to stay at the wild.

Speaker 1 And they was doing that. What is the YMCA?

Speaker 1 There you go. You know what it is.

Speaker 1 How you doing?

Speaker 1 I don't remember the A. The A's.
What's this? Oh, yeah. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Sir Mixlot.

Speaker 1 Baby Guy Back.

Speaker 1 Saw Pepper Shoop. Yeah.
We got a Shoop.

Speaker 1 Time in. 90s on it.
A 1989 90s rap list. Oh, my God.
Some different version of the 40.

Speaker 1 What the fuck is the? They play Julio? No. I bet you play Shaggy.
I bet you Shaggy made that list. Shaggy? There might have been some Shaggy user.
Shaggy or some Shaggy.

Speaker 1 Shaggy usually makes that list. Sean Hugh Paul.
They threw on. I thought of it because I didn't hear Sean Paul.
I thought of it because they threw on some hip-hop hooray.

Speaker 1 None of the white people did like this side to sign. Yeah.
How old was that? They did YMCA before they did it. Hey,

Speaker 1 how old was that? Hey, there was like teenagers there. Yeah.
Oh, they ain't on. There's older people, too.
But. Oh, the cha-cha slide.

Speaker 1 They had some DM version of the cha-cha slide that threw me off a little bit. One time now, y'all.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we didn't have.

Speaker 1 I should have had some synthesizers in it. I was like, This is not how this goes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they fucked up. But

Speaker 1 everyone slid. So it worked.
Remember, you gotta learn the electric slides. Those stallions was there? Learn that shit.
You think Parks don't know electric slides? He doesn't know the electric slide.

Speaker 1 He doesn't learn it. We talked about that.
Stay out of business.

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 1 And it's just called you a nigga.

Speaker 1 And don't do that again.

Speaker 1 People dumb, y'all.

Speaker 1 People dumb. But don't do that again.
Stop having that. Stop having comments.
We had Park so uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 No, y'all had me so uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 Y'all didn't have Parks. Parks said I'm white, y'all.

Speaker 1 I was home like, oh, you guys.

Speaker 1 You guys, please.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck. He another one.

Speaker 1 He said, what?

Speaker 1 What was I saying? What was I about to say? Let me not erase these notes. This is important.
I miss Ray Schrimmer a little bit. I have this written down.
Just because it was their anniversary.

Speaker 1 It was their 10-year anniversary the other day. What shit they put out recently? Was it? Yeah, Shrimmer.
Yeah, it wasn't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. They still get the support like that.
Yeah, no one put no money behind it.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 Shrummin is always getting to listen. They drop an album, I'm rushing to listen.
Same thing. I have a question here that's off of music.
It's not music related at all, but I did want to ask you guys:

Speaker 1 if anybody, who have you been honored to share your time on Earth with?

Speaker 1 Greg Popovich.

Speaker 1 He's one for me. Kobe's another one for me.

Speaker 1 Kobe. Clark Kent.

Speaker 1 DJ Clark Kent. I thought about this because while they was playing all of these white people slaps in Costa Rica at New Year's Eve, I thought about D-Nice.

Speaker 1 And for me to purchase D-Nice's single at nine years old

Speaker 1 and then him go on to be one of the biggest DJs in the world and be so supportive and be such a good human. Such a nice guy.
A nice person and just be in the mix.

Speaker 1 I seen D-Nice when he was going through a divorce. I seen D-Nice when he was moving around like.
Tori or someone was playing some D-Nice set list while we were out there.

Speaker 1 D-Nice is going to come on. He's going to come on.

Speaker 1 All members of the locks for me. Okay.
All just men of honor.

Speaker 1 Total men of honor. I mean, my list goes on and on.
I'd love to hear

Speaker 1 if there's anybody on you guys's.

Speaker 1 Just musicians? No. Anybody that you've been honored.
to share earth with. We don't.
Listen, time is, time, this life shit is fragile. This shit comes and goes.
Stuart Scott, good one. Great one.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace. Mm-hmm.
Rest in peace to the gold.

Speaker 2 Viola Davis.

Speaker 1 Wow, cricket, cricket, church. No, no, she's on my list too.
Oh, okay. But my list is long.
Like, I'd be honored at just seeing greatness. Same.
Yeah. Same.

Speaker 1 I'd be thinking about the greatness, like, when we get to see it up close.

Speaker 1 It's like Kobe would be one for me.

Speaker 1 You know, I grew up with him, so like seeing that.

Speaker 1 Quest Love,

Speaker 1 same thing.

Speaker 1 Like just geniuses who we also got to see kind of up close and watch the genius develop and like, boom, that shit for me is amazing. Shout out to Quest Love.

Speaker 1 I think he's doing his fucking birthday, his birthday movie tradition shit. I think Silence of the Lands was on.
One of them. It was a movie on there I wanted to see.

Speaker 1 Did I get kicked off the list? Oh.

Speaker 1 I've made it the last. I've always made.
Shit.

Speaker 1 I didn't get it. I did not quite as Philly as we thought.

Speaker 1 That is class.

Speaker 1 Oh, there would be hell. Yes,

Speaker 1 sorry.

Speaker 1 Sorry, my bad. I missed the last two.
I'm like, did I get taken off the list? My bad. My bad, Mark.

Speaker 1 You could be my plus one. Oh, no, he's in it.
Shit. He's in it.
Okay. You feel better now? A little bit.

Speaker 1 Mark a hater on the low. Take all spare time.
Not on the low. Not on the low.
No, he's a hater.

Speaker 1 He said, not on the low.

Speaker 1 All people are haters. Dr.
Umar, I see you with Simba.

Speaker 1 I see that video.

Speaker 1 Dr. Umar is in Africa with Simba.
Salute.

Speaker 1 Now, I had a rough month, so we did have to reschedule Umar and Podsgiving, but he is out there as a friend of the show with friend of the show,

Speaker 1 Simba.

Speaker 1 Not your Simba.

Speaker 1 Salute. I want to know if Simba is sucking Dr.
Umar's dick.

Speaker 1 I know Simba. I don't give a fuck what y'all talking about.

Speaker 1 Listen.

Speaker 1 We know. Power done.
Not like that. Stop.
Don't get it. I wasn't even talking.
I'm just talking about. Oh, thank God.
No, we know how Simba. Thank you.
Oh, we know Simba. There we go.
Help me out.

Speaker 1 I said, we know. Oh, dog.
Help me out then.

Speaker 1 I did. You never been to Onview.
Yo, anybody out there lying on Ish, it wasn't in Onview, nigga. I have been in Onview.
That one time when we were doing the show first. Three times.

Speaker 1 We was doing the show first. And then I've been there with my girl for dinner outside in the pods in the winter.

Speaker 1 Nice-ish. You got the pods outside in the winter where you can look at the view.

Speaker 1 Back in the day when I used to cheat at Ormview, I would get caught every time.

Speaker 1 You can't do that.

Speaker 1 My girl called me right at the table with this bitch.

Speaker 1 Are you serious? Yo, nigga, are you sitting?

Speaker 1 You're not brave enough to be at Armview with such and such. Sending me pictures.

Speaker 1 I'm out of here.

Speaker 1 At Ombiew,

Speaker 1 when you're cheating back in the day, and you try to go find a quiet corner to talk, the corner's a little far in Ormview.

Speaker 1 It is. It's no longer in the cool area.
You got to take a run.

Speaker 1 Here go your girl. Why you had a breath?

Speaker 1 I don't like when your girl knows your breathing pattern. She called you while you were there? Oh, please.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 You said, no, I'm just cleaning up. She said, clean it up.
Sure.

Speaker 1 Business beating. I'll stop cheating.
The cheating game changed. And I'm in love.
But the cheating game changed. This shit different out there.

Speaker 1 You got to have the spirit. You got to thank God for cameras and also.

Speaker 1 Fuck them cameras. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Really. I love you, baby.
I was living wrong. I grew.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling, Joe?

Speaker 1 About what?

Speaker 1 Catch steak. Catch steak permanently closed.
No.

Speaker 2 That's devastating.

Speaker 1 Catch steak is permanently closed. Oh, your blood pressure must be good money.

Speaker 1 New York and L.A.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Yes, crazy.

Speaker 1 Yes. Damn.
You know, they're the first of many.

Speaker 1 They closed L.A. last month.
And then a couple days ago, just.

Speaker 1 So only Miami? No?

Speaker 1 As of now.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Both catch stake in New York and Los Angeles have been exceptionally successful, each generating over $18 million in annual revenue.

Speaker 1 Revenue ain't profit. That seems really low.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it seems a little low for me. However, their close proximity to our flagship, Ketch Restaurants, has split the business.

Speaker 1 By consolidating these locations, we can deliver a unified and elevated experience that builds on the best of both concepts.

Speaker 1 To support this transformation, we're investing $6 million to renovate and enhance both flagship locations, creating spaces that set new standards for guest and staff experiences.

Speaker 1 This pivotal move follows the successful openings of Catch Miami Beach. I gotta get back to Miami.

Speaker 1 I know. For dinner.

Speaker 1 And Dallas in 2024. Dallas is a bad one.
And Dallas.

Speaker 1 That's another one. I'm barred.
I can't go to Dallas.

Speaker 1 That fucking.

Speaker 1 Do niggas know that Dallas is on the. Yeah, niggas know.

Speaker 1 All right, anyway. And Dallas in 2024, as well as the launch of the Corner Store, already one of the most talked about restaurants in America.

Speaker 1 Looking ahead to 2025, 2025, we have several openings in progress, including a Mediterranean dining experience in Soho.

Speaker 1 We're energized by what's ahead and look forward to sharing the next chapter of Catch Hospitality Group with you. I think that makes a ton of business sense.
I am so depressed. I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Why? I think Catch is so much better than Catch Steak. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 I don't eat steak either.

Speaker 1 I don't eat state like that, so it didn't do it for me.

Speaker 1 It was amazing. But vibe wise out.
You're stepping on your own date. Your dope.
You're stepping on your own dope.

Speaker 2 Well, then why open it so fucking close?

Speaker 1 Ego.

Speaker 1 Stupid. It's ego.

Speaker 2 Fucking take it up and take it midtown so that it's not like across the street from the flagship.

Speaker 1 I think regular catch was overdone,

Speaker 1 especially in New York.

Speaker 2 In LA too.

Speaker 1 When you say overdone, what do you mean?

Speaker 2 Just in general.

Speaker 1 Ran through. And they catch their dad.
And they ran through, too.

Speaker 1 We weren't done yet. Yeah, we weren't done running through.

Speaker 1 Nigga, you was eating there three times a week at one point, not three times, but a lot. I know I was there.
They didn't hear them story, they didn't tell you nothing. They ain't, yo, Joe, man.

Speaker 1 I'm mad. I didn't get an email.
I feel for some of them cool people that I was fly with that worked over there. It's like, God damn.
It was our girl named Ashley.

Speaker 1 Think so. Mm-hmm.
Forgot. But you know what I'm talking about.
I do. It's more people's, yeah.
Speak up, nigga.

Speaker 1 Don't get quiet. You don't know your people's name? I do know your people.
Don't get quiet, though.

Speaker 1 We'll talk talk later. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I told you about doing that. We're not talking about shit.
We'll talk later. I'll go, TMC.
We're going to talk. Yo, why you keep doing that? You're telling your man, stop.
I'm really saddened by this.

Speaker 1 Not as much as I would be if we didn't go out with a bang for my birthday party. I had a blast at my birthday party.
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 But damn, I wouldn't have minded to go back to a little last time wagoo, a little last little sushi roof.

Speaker 1 It was the first

Speaker 1 catch roll. I didn't go to catch restaurants.
I went to catch steak, but what's the difference between the two?

Speaker 1 One is seafood, one is one was one was more seafood oriented, and the other one was catching. Regular catch or seafood.
Catch. Catch it.
Thank you, man. Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, catch seafood. She broke it down for you.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. She did, man.
I just sent me that fucking article, man. I wanted to kill him.
Damn. I thought you knew.
I was just like, damn, yo, my condolences.

Speaker 1 Now we just want to bring that menu over here.

Speaker 1 I hope so. Somebody eats some seafood and shit.
It's a regular catch. A regular catch.
That's what I mean. You're going to get the same options.
I don't think that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Unless it's a vibe.
They just say, they pretty much said it in the press release.

Speaker 1 They're going to consolidate it. For me, it's a vibe thing.
That's why I was asking if the vibe is better at catch steak. I've only been to catch steak much better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was. Much better at catch steak.

Speaker 1 It was nice. It was nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But I didn't go to catch.
Are y'all no boo people?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do know. Yeah, that ain't better.
Or is noble overrated to y'all?

Speaker 2 No, it's a staple, especially the one on 57.

Speaker 1 No Boo 57 is my spot. Come on, Noble 57 is better.
But

Speaker 1 I think a lot of that shit, when you, what are you talking about? Overrated?

Speaker 1 Food-wise or? Period. Whatever-wise you're talking about.
See, the food is just, the food is good. It ain't great, but the ambiance is good.

Speaker 1 So a lot of times when you go to these places, you're not necessarily even going there for the food.

Speaker 1 I fuck some.

Speaker 1 I fuck some lobster tacos up in Nobel Prize.

Speaker 1 It's just good. It's good.
It's just the power dynamic in Nobu 5, bro.

Speaker 1 It's just good. You know what I'm saying? Yo, I have taken some first dates to Nobu 57, right? The power dynamics shine over there.
It's the game changer. Look,

Speaker 1 you go in there because of the what? The lobster tacos. I bet.
That Nobu over there, what's that vlog beach? You were delicious. Not in LA.
What's the good fancy, fancy, fancy beach? Malibu. Malibu.

Speaker 1 That Nobu over there.

Speaker 2 Sexy.

Speaker 1 Yes. I mean.
The one over here, huh? Yes, this one. But I don't like, sometimes they're starting to feel thirsty.
Like, I was at Nobu

Speaker 1 Maybe. What was it? Oh, I know when it was.
It was a long time ago. It's years ago.
Let me say this. September.
I was with my wife. So, no, it was like three months ago.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 Three single niggas walking Nobu. You're having a good night.

Speaker 1 That's true, but everybody in there looked like they was.

Speaker 1 You know how like when you walk to a mall in Atlanta right now, everybody looks at the auditioning for something. Everybody feels like that.
It's New York City.

Speaker 1 But that's Noble really feels like that now. Do y'all still go to the mall in Atlanta?

Speaker 1 No, I don't. But I did.
Like, last time I went, I was like, I'm never coming here again. I was at Lenox Mall in like 2015.

Speaker 1 Oh, he said 2015. 2015.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I'm never walking in this business. I still feel like, but it's fine.
I was in there last year. It was still.
You was in there last year copping some shit? What you got, my nigga?

Speaker 1 What you got? What you got about there? Remember, I was in the mall, you called me, I asked you to pick you up the Gucci sneakers.

Speaker 1 Ooh, Invest Fest. See? You got to go back to Invest Fest, too.
Don't do that. I was in the mall.
You going back-ish? What do you mean? Are you going back to InvestFest? Go to Invest Fest again.

Speaker 1 To support? Yeah, you didn't go last year. You didn't go last year.
I didn't go last year. But go.
My niggas. I support the niggas and everything.
They do. Just go, yo.
Sure? Huh?

Speaker 1 You sure you support them? So if they come to New York, you gonna go? If they come where? I told them I'd go. Wait, InvestFest in New York? No, just New York, period.

Speaker 1 Oh, I told them I might speak at that. They pressed me when I went to speak at Steve Stout's

Speaker 1 United Masters gig. They pressed me.
So, yeah, if they come to New York, I'll go speak at the

Speaker 1 fucking.

Speaker 1 The Jabbit Center. Yeah.
No, they're doing, I think they do.

Speaker 1 The Garden. Hulu Theater.
The Garden. The Hulu Theater.

Speaker 1 But no, they're my niggas. But yeah,

Speaker 1 Linux ain't it.

Speaker 1 That shit is violent. I'm scared of Atlanta, my nigga.

Speaker 1 They got metal detectors in Neiman Marcus. They got metal detectors now? What? They have shootouts in Neiman Marcus.

Speaker 1 Well, it's open carry.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Yeah, I definitely came out.
You got to think about what you mean.

Speaker 1 You're shooting out Neiman's. That's crazy.
That's different. On-site mean on site.

Speaker 1 Evidently. I can't believe that.
Well, I can believe it. Rest in peace to Neiman Marcus.

Speaker 1 Well, they got bought out by Sachs is buying them up. They're done.
Sacks sold everything. They done.

Speaker 1 Did they say they're closing?

Speaker 1 They got bought out. They done.
That doesn't mean they're done. They went back at that.
They might keep the same name. They don't mean they were closing.

Speaker 1 Sometimes they keep the same. They didn't close Burger Door for any other shit they own.

Speaker 1 It just was last week.

Speaker 1 Sacks gobbled them up. Well, I ain't shopping no more that way.

Speaker 1 I'm chilling. I know.
I'm on my Steve Jobs. I'm on Pop My Parks t-shirt and some jeans.
We know.

Speaker 1 Nigga's so full of shit. I know it's so full of shit, dog.
It's cool though. No, for real.
It's a few things I want to do less than 2025. Shopping is one.
Strip club is two.

Speaker 1 Red meat is three.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 yeah, I think that's my top three.

Speaker 1 How about you guys? I didn't get a chance to hear y'all any New Year's resolutions or anything you plan on doing different for the year.

Speaker 1 Meat, anybody? Nothing, sugar and worse.

Speaker 1 No, shit,

Speaker 1 absolutely nothing. I'm fucking awesome.
Yeah, like I'm just gonna stay the fucking course.

Speaker 2 That's it.

Speaker 1 Respect. I gotta exercise more.

Speaker 1 You gotta just stay respective some shit. Salute.

Speaker 1 Respect. Respect.
You gotta just respect. When niggas make claims, you gotta just respect them.
Respect.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas are 80. I'm gonna be more healthy for 2025.

Speaker 1 I'm about to go on Ozempic. I'm telling you, ish.

Speaker 1 That's gonna make your health better? I don't give a fuck. I'm going on it.
I was just asking.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Next week. Lower his A1C.

Speaker 1 Thank you, man. Yeah.
Yeah, but LeBron says just lost like 70 pounds or some shit, right? I'm asking. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm asking.
Probably naturally, too.

Speaker 1 If you, we should run to something too. I'm trying to get back.
I'm trying to get my heart rate up on the tracks. You might try to outdo me and run a nigga.
No, no, no, man. Running is the shit.

Speaker 1 There's a black men run group.

Speaker 1 We should do it. Seriously.

Speaker 1 Everybody here, I think it would be dope.

Speaker 1 If I do run, I'm not running with the black men running group. What are we running for?

Speaker 1 It's like Africa.

Speaker 1 You about to make it colder?

Speaker 1 You thought he was trying to. He was making it cooler.
Just running for no reason? No?

Speaker 1 He was running to lose it. To not die.
And build up the cardio. Right.
Muscular exercise, yeah. You die when it's your time, man.

Speaker 1 You die when it's your time, man. That sounds good.
Black women. Is it just guys?

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, no, I know.
My homegirls had a black women run to group. I know a good black women run group.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 So what do y'all run? Like Central Park and shit like that?

Speaker 1 I haven't joined the group yet, but they run. No, they run in Jersey.
Jersey. Oh, Jersey.
They run in Jersey. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's worth it, man. No, listen, running is dope.
Running is therapeutic. All of that shit.
Yeah. And that shit started to visualize.
Unless you run. It should have fucked up your testosterone, though.

Speaker 1 Be careful. It will.
We learned. It will.

Speaker 1 Your shit stopped working. Take your muscle master.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Unless you ran ish. It's been up years, but I used to run every day.
Like, literally every single day. Like, run from niggas.
Niggas was on your ass. I used to run.

Speaker 1 The niggas was on his ass.

Speaker 1 He was chasing you up the block every time. He's on the top of the same strip.

Speaker 1 There you go. Get him.

Speaker 1 There you go. That's right.
There you go. Nah, that's dope-ish.
But seriously, 2025, that's the year, man. I'm trying to run or play ball.

Speaker 1 I know we said we're going to hoop, but like, I'm going to get on break. That shit is different.
Get your heart rate up every day. That shit is definitely different.
Glad you said that.

Speaker 1 Somebody I know wants to speak to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sorry. Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 I haven't the slightest idea. Actually, he wants to speak to Ish and Corey, too.

Speaker 1 Letting this nigga sit here and talk like that.

Speaker 1 Yo, he stayed with a testimonial. I don't know.
You know who it is?

Speaker 1 Some nigga tied up in the basement. I was good at basketball.
I wasn't up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, Pop.

Speaker 1 It's Joe Button. It's Joe Button from the Joe Button podcast.

Speaker 1 What's going on? I got this sucker in front of me right here.

Speaker 1 I got a sweet Vic in front of me right here. And I told Corey and Ish that you was mad that they let this new nigga talk like that about me and you.

Speaker 1 Especially Corey, boy. Especially Corey.

Speaker 1 Because Corey could play a little bit. Ish was a bum, so he wouldn't let me like that.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 Do you have anything to say to Mark about his remarks regarding you and I on the spade table?

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, I can tell he's not a real spade player because you're only as good as your partner. So I don't care how great he think he is.
I happen to have the best partner in the world.

Speaker 1 So for that reason alone, he can't win. Y'all go ahead.
It's just the two of us moments. Yeah, that's my man right there.
Listen. That's my man.
Listen, hey, Pop,

Speaker 1 I'm going to try to get a date. I'm going to try to get a date from this guy.

Speaker 1 I hope it's before I die. Sir.

Speaker 1 Sir,

Speaker 1 you pick the time and the place. It won't be a problem.
You're right. You're only as good as your partner.
I'm like LeBron. Every city he goes to, he wins a chip.
That's me.

Speaker 1 I'll take anybody in this room right now and beat both of y'all with all due respect. Pop, I got it.

Speaker 1 He's on the radio, sir. He can say that stupid shit.

Speaker 1 That shit don't sound like that. That's dures.

Speaker 1 That shit don't sound good. He sounds stupid.
He sounds real stupid.

Speaker 1 Don't worry. We're going to see him on the weekend.
We're going to see him on the weekend.

Speaker 1 I'm ready to play outside right now.

Speaker 1 In the snow.

Speaker 1 I'm with you.

Speaker 1 no. Hey, Pop, I'm going to set it up, man.
I'll talk to you later. All right, make it happen, man.
All right.

Speaker 1 Can we actually say shit? Set it up, bro. That nigga just be filming.

Speaker 1 He just be talking, man. He's going to be setting up gems and space.

Speaker 2 That basketball shit never happened.

Speaker 1 The mac and cheese never happened.

Speaker 1 Pancakes.

Speaker 1 That's hate.

Speaker 2 Don't throw me. Leave them alone, nigga.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying things. We're really looking forward to mac and cheese for Mel? That's deflection.
No, wait, wait, wait. Look at the button, nigga.
You think she could cook?

Speaker 2 Didn't they throw you into the whole mac and cheese conversation?

Speaker 1 I don't eat mac and cheese, so I was glad what you eat. Mel came in here and lied and said she went and she brought some mac and cheese somewhere else.
She was on Instagram. Hey, I made this.

Speaker 1 All this woman do is lie. But she gets away with it.
She can do it. She can pull it off.
Oh, my God. He let Mel cook, man.
Yeah, no. But she don't cook.

Speaker 1 We take away the power dynamics. We take it away pretty privileged.

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's go, Mark. Oh, cool.
Oh, shit. But Mel is talented beyond her looks.

Speaker 1 Beat it up. Well, Well, you are good.

Speaker 1 He don't stop. He don't stop.
Cleopatra out three. Yo, nah.

Speaker 1 Yo, Mark. Yo, Mark is stumbling corners now.
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nah, Mark is rookie of the year.

Speaker 1 Mark is rookie of the year. Yo,

Speaker 1 you can't jam him up.

Speaker 1 You can't jam him up.

Speaker 1 I don't think I have too much more that I need to get off on this. They booed the shit out of Hulk Hogan.
They booted me.

Speaker 1 Boo.

Speaker 1 What ain't going. I felt so bad.
He was limping as shit.

Speaker 1 This nigga limped outside. I'm like, please, though, they booed the shit out that nigga, son.

Speaker 1 They tried to fix it. Like, what the fuck is going on? So they tried to fix it, right? Yeah, they tried to fix it.
You talking about WWE. They put a fake D.
Yeah, they put a figure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 They booed that nigga out of the building, son. Yeah, I ain't never seen nothing like that.
And it looked good on from Shout out to WWE on the Netflix deal. It looks amazing.
It looks amazing.

Speaker 1 That whole Nexflis, I don't know what's going on. As did the football game.
Football game looks good. Netflix is all.
The football game looked really good. I watched that Beyonce bowl again.

Speaker 1 E, we'll talk on Patreon, man.

Speaker 1 Don't stop with E, please. They go crazy.
They pull up E's family. Stop.
Yeah. No starter.
They pull up E's mom and stuff, man.

Speaker 1 I didn't see none of that, but. Stop.
Don't bring it back up. He be going on.
Patreon, I'm going to talk to you. He be doing.

Speaker 1 I watched the Beyonce bowl again. You stand with E.
Yeah, I don't think he's. I don't agree with you.

Speaker 1 I got Beyonce in my top five. You don't stand with E.
No, what I'm saying, I don't think number six is crazy. I don't think he's wrong.

Speaker 1 Like, I would put Beyonce above Chris Brown, but I don't think it's crazy that he's. But then it found tweets that he had Beyonce in his top five.

Speaker 1 But then he saw Chris Brown perform again and said, you know what? This shit changed. Chris Brown killed it.
He should watch The Beyonce Bowl again.

Speaker 1 He also said I could put some other things in the name of the nigga named some other niggas in there. And I kept trying to get him.
Who are these names? Oh, though.

Speaker 1 Patty Brown, Patty LaBelle. I'm off mic.
Oh, oh, my. That's why we're talking about you.

Speaker 1 You ain't even here, right?

Speaker 1 You had your time to shine on the last episode. You get a bunch of shit off.

Speaker 1 You think it's crazy to put James Britain in front of Beyonce? No. No.
That's what I'm saying. But then he started saying Bruno Mars and some some other shit, too.

Speaker 1 Don't misport. It's crazy to put Chris Brown in front of Beyonce.
I think so, too. It is.

Speaker 1 That's the only one that I disagree with. Fall up, performance-wise? Yes.
Yeah, I think Beyonce does the thing that you can do. And I'm not saying, hold up.

Speaker 1 I want to clarify myself because I'm a huge Chris Brown fan. He's not that far.

Speaker 1 Chris Brown, because of out-of-the-studio incidents, will never have the opportunity to make his performance look like that. So it's not that I don't think he's capable of.

Speaker 1 And I think they know it, and they purposely

Speaker 1 I've never seen it and to correct you we I have seen Chris I'm not Chris Brown

Speaker 1 Beyonce perform with

Speaker 1 a bare minimum

Speaker 2 and go absolutely crazy but you don't have a mic so I don't think that's fair can we also just acknowledge the fact that she does her entire

Speaker 2 stage

Speaker 2 you know presentation in fucking high heels yeah yeah can we just acknowledge that it's singing yes

Speaker 1 the thing that blew me away on the rewatch of the Beyoncé Bowl, of course, was the performance. But

Speaker 1 she killed the vocals laying on her back, being carried. She killed the highs.

Speaker 1 She especially killed the lows, which is where you could hear people that could sing fuck it up when they try to, you know, you know about all that vocal control shit. So we'll talk later.

Speaker 1 But her vocal, the way she controls that shit, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 I can't. I can't.
Just can't. And like,

Speaker 1 she's there.

Speaker 1 And fuck Hulk Hogan. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fuck Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 1 For real, that's a moment. That's something I never thought I would say in my life.
Why? Never. I agree with you.
Because I grew up on Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 1 But some of the whites will show you who they are when you give them a couple decades. You never thought you were saying that.

Speaker 1 Even when he said nigga the first time, I went all the way to mad at him. That's what I'm telling people.
Niggas looking for the whites to show you. Nah, he went a little crazier.

Speaker 1 He went crazier than that first nigga. That's a couple.

Speaker 1 They showed you who they are. The Jerry Springer dock came out today on Netflix.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to watch it. Yes.
All I had was Netflix in the hotel. It kept showing me what was coming soon.

Speaker 1 Did you watch Quick Day? Coming Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Did you watch Quid Games season two? I have not. Yes.
What do you think, Joe?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 It's not one?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 we don't know. We don't really.
It's not going to be one. Ended on the cliffhanger.
But I like it. I'm saying, but season one was revolutionary.

Speaker 1 Season three is coming out, I guess, this year sometime. Yeah.
Someone said maybe as soon as February. I don't know if that's true, but

Speaker 1 it was a half a season. Yes.

Speaker 1 But what I'm saying is that I saw so much negative reviews on it, but it wasn't as bad as they made it seem. I'm so 4025.
That's number four on my list, 2025.

Speaker 1 I want to read less of what the internet has to say. Yes, I agree with that one.
That's true. The internet be wrong.
That's true. Because

Speaker 1 sometimes it could sway you from watching it.

Speaker 1 They had me thinking that Squid Games 2 was about to be horrible. I watched it.
I didn't feel like that at all. Not me neither.
And I wasn't mad at the cliffhanger like they was. I wasn't.
I ain't.

Speaker 1 Especially when it said

Speaker 1 next season for the finale, 2025. I'm like, oh shit, that's now.
Dog, you gotta watch the Jackal.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 Don't interrupt our Squid Game review.

Speaker 1 Where is it? Watch. Peacock.
Where is it? Peacock. Peacock.
Watch.

Speaker 1 We came in here talking. Jackal, I'll get to.

Speaker 1 Cross, I'll get to. There's a few that y'all crossed.
He was nominated, too. The guy who plays Jack Rock.
No, we talk about Squid Games. Shut the fuck up.
What's wrong?

Speaker 1 Are y'all crazy? Sorry, go ahead. He bought it.
Squid games.

Speaker 1 Or as I've renamed it, squid non-games.

Speaker 1 They didn't play many games?

Speaker 1 The first squid game was revolutionary because those games were amazing.

Speaker 1 Those games were like, you sitting at home like, oh shit, if I had to do that. Wow.
Those games were top of the notch. Whoever created those or put that together killed it.
This one, seven episodes.

Speaker 1 The first game was the the same game as the last game, which was red light. Green light.
I'm not mad at that because they killed that. Then it was only two games after that.

Speaker 1 And those two games, I was sitting home like, oh, I would kill this. Like, they weren't groundbreaking games to me.
One was you tie y'all, tie the five of y'all up together.

Speaker 1 You go around in the big circle and you hop around, and you have to do like a squid game appetizer. Small, small games.
Small tapestry.

Speaker 1 Spin the thingamajiggy,

Speaker 1 the game that they initiate you on with slap the whatever they call it out there. And then the next game was

Speaker 1 Hit the Rock with the Rock? The next game was all us get in a merry-go-round and whatever number they say, that's how many people we have to go pull in a room. I like how they made it interesting.

Speaker 1 I like how they

Speaker 1 I see how that could be tough. If it's all of us here and the niggas scream three, then we got to fight about which three of us to go.
But I'm going to pull two of y'all in the room with me.

Speaker 1 I just didn't think that was the toughest of games to play.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, squid non-games

Speaker 1 for me. I hated those games.

Speaker 1 Did.

Speaker 1 The games, I hated the games.

Speaker 1 I want to shout out to Thanos.

Speaker 1 Yo, Thanos was a fucking

Speaker 1 annoying.

Speaker 1 Yo!

Speaker 1 Don't do that. Don't do that.
Thanos was the rap career rapper guy.

Speaker 1 He was giving them bars in there.

Speaker 1 And he got a little crew together. And he tried to thug some niggas out.

Speaker 1 He popped up on Adderall or some shit. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to shout out to Thanos. I want to shout out to the transgender girl.
She was nice. She was crazy.
When she hit the fan, she was.

Speaker 1 She was absolutely fire.

Speaker 1 I liked Squid Games' character development. That's true.
I like that too. And I like that whoever loses the game, it'd be a bunch of people that they wasn't introducing us to anyway.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 Except for Thanos.

Speaker 1 He didn't lose the game, but

Speaker 1 it happened to him. Well, they're going to kill a few people that they made you like.
But for the most part, when all these niggas are like, ah, like i don't care about him yeah move move

Speaker 1 y'all wasn't teaching me about him anyway i like the uh i like the

Speaker 1 i like their um i knew homie with the boat was shady man

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah he knew he was shady he looked shady yeah you can find this fucking island he wasn't trying to find the island at all so dude on the boat is shady i like how

Speaker 1 uh contestant 001 yeah and the last one

Speaker 1 was the older dude

Speaker 1 and how 001 this time was homie's brother. How did you feel about 456 entering back the game? Did you think that that was noble? Yeah, to you.
Noble of him. Got it.
So you like that part?

Speaker 1 Not originally, but once he went in there running his battle. Oh, I'm trying to save all of my guests.
That's the same thing, yeah. I'm trying to get you out of here.
Stand still.

Speaker 1 No, fuck it.

Speaker 1 Stand doing right. He and they're trying to save their life.
And

Speaker 1 they turned on him.

Speaker 1 How do you know the rules to the game?

Speaker 1 We're fucking up. BY001 is the op.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was it. That's crazy.
I love when the guards get, I liked in the first season how when it was time, when they wanted y'all to kill each other, they gave y'all knives.

Speaker 1 Like to eat the steak or whatever. And you're like, oh shit, we got knives about to kill these niggas.
This time they gave you forks when it was time to get busy.

Speaker 1 So it was like, okay, they about to fight.

Speaker 1 I don't know how when everybody is fighting the people hiding under the beds survived like dang what about that nigga that put

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 on top of the bed that let the girl that he liked die

Speaker 1 you're the bitch for that yeah no he threw a bottle down and then watched it

Speaker 1 And I just love how Squid Games...

Speaker 1 You know what? I'm going to sound shady right now because I don't be watching all of the British shows shows with all of these accents and dubs.

Speaker 1 Squid Game is the only show I watch where I like these corny voiceovers. Oh, it's horrible.

Speaker 1 It's so bad that it's a part of the show for me. Well, because it goes back to our childhood watching the Kung Fu Flicks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's bad like that.

Speaker 1 I like Money Heist. Y'all ain't like Money Heist.
I like Money Heist. I like Money Heist, but I like the voiceover shit they did on Money Heist.
Yeah, but Squid Game is way spoofier. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 They lead into that shit. And Money Heist did a good job.
They lead into that shit. Squid Game is is a horrible voiceover.

Speaker 1 But it's kind of part of the show. What else did I like about Squid Game? I like how it extends.
I like anything that accentuates humans' need for greed.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's the whole show.
It's real. It's real.
Yeah. It's real shit.

Speaker 1 That's idealistic bullshit. That was always interesting.

Speaker 1 I loved how this time they did the voting system more.

Speaker 1 That's what threw me. Threw me off because I forgot in season one.
They did it once. When you did it once, they sent them back home.

Speaker 1 So this one had me on on a cliffhanger each time they did it because i'm like okay what's gonna happen if they all say they don't they want to cancel the game so that was something that stood out to me i can't wait till the old rich guy gets it i'm not gonna lie

Speaker 1 the old rich guy or not rich but he was like in debt like a hundred million dollars and he's been opi since the get you think he gonna get it what he's gonna get they can't kill four five six not four five six i'm talking about the i'm talking about the old dude that's in there that keeps every time they're trying to do the vote shit is trying to sway everybody's opinion and shit yes i know what i'm saying is that but 456 would have to die in order for him to win.

Speaker 1 Remember, only one person could win.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, he can't wait for him to get killed. Oh, get killed.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Unless they decide, because now they're saying they can split the money. So unless everybody decides, like, okay, we're going to cancel the game.
So hopefully they can.

Speaker 1 That's the thing that pissed me off about these niggas. Yo, I voted for us to continue playing the game because after the next game, we'll have enough money to quit.

Speaker 1 And then they win the next game, get the party. They watched all these niggas die and be like, nope, I still want to play.
And I don't know the wand. I'm not agreed, though.

Speaker 1 I don't know the wand currency. Oh, yeah, it's a lot.
It sounds like a lot. It sounds like a lot to my American ears.

Speaker 1 I'm 480 billion wand in debt. I'm like, nigga, then you're done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. I liked it.
Shout out to Yeshua. I liked it.
I need to watch it. I do want to see the next season.
Hopefully it comes out soon. It's great.

Speaker 1 It was a great watch for me in the hotel.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo mel i've been trying to find a way to watch this loot the doc man i couldn't find it

Speaker 1 neither i couldn't find it

Speaker 1 on hulu it's on cnn too it's out

Speaker 1 on cnn streaming service

Speaker 1 it's it's on hulu as well wait they said uh they said they're killing patty la bell i saw i saw that on the blog

Speaker 1 they right yeah

Speaker 1 to kill patty lapel

Speaker 1 what patty did was what patty did was wrong but i don't like the way they framed it as it so the documentary is is fine.

Speaker 1 Like, it's one of those things you just talked about, where I was expected to be the greatest documentary of all time.

Speaker 1 I'm a huge Luther Vanjoros fan of working on a book on Luther Vanjos. And I was like expecting something different.
You're writing a book about Luther? Yes.

Speaker 1 If this one was. Yeah, you're an ill nigga.

Speaker 1 Did you get permission? He can't just do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you hear me finishing a book about people. I mean, I did know his mother.
She was in Philadelphia. Okay,

Speaker 1 in downtown Philadelphia. Yeah, drop it.
Pick it up.

Speaker 1 But no, you don't. I didn't need permission.
And I actually want to talk about Luther's love life and his love and look at his life through the lens. Oh, so you're Patty LaBelle, too.

Speaker 1 No, that's the point. That's the challenge, right? Is how do you talk about somebody who's never outed themselves and their love life and how do you deal with their sexuality?

Speaker 1 And so when I watched this documentary, I was like, how are they going to deal with this? And every single person said Luther was looking to find somebody. Luther wanted to find that person.

Speaker 1 It was very gender neutral. But what they did was they used this Watch What Happens live interview.
of Patty LaBelle where she was very clear in saying Luther didn't want people to know he was gay.

Speaker 1 Andy Cohen asked her the leading question like, did Luther want people to know he was gay? Why didn't Luther come out? And she answered the question, right?

Speaker 1 She should not have answered that question.

Speaker 1 Luther did not want her to answer that question. Luther spent his whole life not answering that question.
Oh, y'all don't know how old people work. Yeah, I was about to say, I ain't surprised.

Speaker 1 I just don't like that. I know, Mark.
You know, it's an old patty, you don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but especially some old person that really loves you and think that you might have been embarrassed for no reason or thinking that you, you know what I mean? Like, they'll tell. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you think she did it without the love without having him in her life?

Speaker 2 I don't think that her intentions were bad.

Speaker 1 I think she had good intentions.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think she had good intentions, but I also think that at her, at her age and as long as she's been in the business, like diplomacy has to have like, you know, kind of kicked in. And it didn't.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think that Vaka was kicking in. I think she was on the show.
She was drinking. She got a loose.

Speaker 1 I mean, Quincy Jones did the same thing, not the drinking part, but toward the end of his career, he starts, oh, yeah, that could be, you know, Richard Prowl. Oh yeah, he's a suck dick.

Speaker 1 You know, he was.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was literally what Quincy Jones was doing. He was talking, you don't do that shit.
That's not okay. I feel like Quincy is doubting himself, though.

Speaker 1 But Quincy is different than what Patty LaBelle did. Right.
He told stories about people. He was wild out.
He did. Patty LaBelle.
He had to hide that nigga from the front.

Speaker 1 But it's like, yo, this is my friend. He wasn't doing anything wrong.
He might have felt, because you know, back then, too.

Speaker 1 Homosexuality I looked at.

Speaker 1 He was very different. Yeah, but Luther died in 2005.
It wasn't like he died like 20 years ago. Yeah, but if it wasn't.
He was still that away in 2015. And he was the man in the 80s.

Speaker 1 Luther was the man in the 80s. He died in 2005, but that wasn't at the height or pinnacle of his dominance in the music industry.
It kind of was. I mean, it wasn't, and it was.

Speaker 1 It was his most crossover. He died right as he got his first number one overall hit.
Dance with my father. Dance with my father.

Speaker 1 So the idea is now the whole world knows who he is. And he still didn't want the world to know who he was.
Nobody care about that white shit. I'm talking about Luther Vuth.

Speaker 1 Luther. No, I'm with you.
What are you talking about? Dance with my father? You're going to disrespect that record. We talk about.
Deny disrespecting the record.

Speaker 1 Luther Vandros in the 90s was black royalty. Yes.
So fuck Dance With My Fathers. We looked at that nigga as something different from his catalog prior to that.

Speaker 1 And he didn't want those people in the 80s, 90s to know he was gay. That's my point.
So now Patty LaBelle comes on the interview.

Speaker 1 Patty LaBelle's giving the interview saying, yo, whatever you was doing that you might have been ashamed of, it was nothing ashamed of that and let it go. That's not her choice to make.
I'm not.

Speaker 1 But he's dead. He's dead.
Joe, if I told you right now, I got a secret,

Speaker 1 and I don't want anybody to know. It's not a secret, I'm I'm Muslim, right? So if I don't talk about religion in public, right? I don't want anybody to know.
I just talk about it off-air, right?

Speaker 1 So when I die, you can just go tell everybody?

Speaker 1 No, you just moved the GoPost. You did? How?

Speaker 1 If you tell me a secret and I hold that secret down, and the world learns your secret, and then after you're gone, the question is posed to me with your secret. I'm going to answer the question.

Speaker 1 But here's me, especially if it's a different world where... Yeah.

Speaker 1 Here's why that. Here's that.
I'm sorry, good job. I'm just saying if it's a different world where people are now more accepting

Speaker 1 right now, and here's why that doesn't fit to me.

Speaker 1 No one has ever confirmed Luther's sexuality in public except Patty LaBelle. That's it.
It wasn't like the world discovered he was gay, and then she said, Well, why didn't he come out?

Speaker 1 No one has, when you look at that whole documentary, I've read every article ever. No, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 No friend of Luther Vandros' has ever confirmed his sexuality. He's right.
Luther asked every single friend or assumed every single friend to not reveal his sexuality.

Speaker 1 So it wasn't like the world found out and then she just answered the question. That's back in respect.
So we we just assumed that he was gay. So you've swayed me with that.

Speaker 1 So she confirmed the assumption.

Speaker 1 He swayed me. He's right.
If Luther told every single person, yo, I don't want y'all to tell. He literally has said that if you ask Roberta Flack, if you ask,

Speaker 1 you can't ask any Ouija board to ask Aretha. But if you ask anybody else who's alive, then you're right.
Yeah, that's my only thing. It's like, you can't do that.
That's my only issue. You swayed me.

Speaker 1 I'm going to put you there.

Speaker 1 If he specifically asked them. Yeah, then you're right.
I agree with that. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Because even in death, honor his wishes, but

Speaker 1 you're right.

Speaker 1 Now, Patty's people are coming out now saying they feel like they they were made into the villain though um in the film in the film they make it they they make it seem almost as if america or the world had no consciousness about luther's sexuality until she said something about it which also isn't fair because the world knew luther was gay i mean there came a point where the world began to feel like luther was gay maybe not in the 80s and 90s because my mom no i'm telling you there's a lot of old black women that go to church

Speaker 1 That don't know their man is gay. They don't know their deacon is gay.
They don't know the pastor is gay. There's a lot of black people who like to be in denial about sexuality.

Speaker 1 They didn't know Luther was gay. Some did.
I hear about Freddie Jackson, too. A lot of people tell me they didn't realize it until 20 years later.

Speaker 1 And I'm not outing Freddie Jackson. I think Freddie started to talk about it.
I think you out of Freddie Jackson. No, that's crazy.
I never heard that. Freddie's my man.
I never heard that.

Speaker 1 I didn't hear. Be careful when you said that your man.
Shut up, ish.

Speaker 1 I never heard that. Freddie Jackson.
Freddie Jackson?

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, oh, time.

Speaker 1 Say

Speaker 1 hilarious.

Speaker 1 You and my lady? That was salutary. Was Whitney ever.
Yo. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 No, it's been a great shit. Y'all.
Yo, man.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. What's wrong with you, Mars? Wrong, your man.
That book is done for.

Speaker 1 Kylo, that old shit. I'm talking about Mark.
I can't wait to see that.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to find a way to. That's a bad question to answer.
Yes. What? Was Whitney gay?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Robin wrote a book about it. I heard she was bisexual.
Well, we know she. Yeah.

Speaker 1 My public answer is that Robin has had, I'm sorry, that Whitney has had friends, like Robin, her best friend,

Speaker 1 say that they were in a sexual relationship. Oh, they said, Okay, she just stayed.
She talks about their sexual relationship and their lovers.

Speaker 1 Nigga, this whole place was shut down. I don't, I have no

Speaker 1 knowledge of it. He challenged everybody.
Yeah, Gay, stand on it, nigga. Yeah.
I never heard nothing.

Speaker 1 You haven't? About her being

Speaker 1 women?

Speaker 1 No, Gail.

Speaker 2 Allegedly.

Speaker 2 Those are the rumors.

Speaker 1 I never heard. It's been a great show.
Yeah, sleepers.

Speaker 1 I think we absolutely killed today's show. Round of applause.

Speaker 1 Welcome back. Welcome back.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, wait, wait. Before we leave, before we get to sleepers, I just want to send a quick, quick, quick shout-out to Shotgun Sug.
Yeah, colorful performance. Jersey, Jersey, Jersey.
Big Sug.

Speaker 1 Suggie. Easy.
I told you. I heard it was a 30.
I told you. 30, 30.
I told you. That's all I'm saying.
I told you.

Speaker 1 I hate that. Stop.
I hate to be

Speaker 1 happy at a man losing.

Speaker 1 But boy, did I feel good about him losing. Easy.
Did you feel good more because of all the antics that you're behind? Just a goofy.

Speaker 1 Some of it's goofy to me. Not him.
Not him, the person, because I don't have a problem with him, the person. But just some of the movements.
I'm cool. I hated that.

Speaker 1 With Remy, right?

Speaker 1 On him one time. And then on

Speaker 1 Yo, Remy, you love me? Yes. Yes.
That's Mr. Punchline.

Speaker 1 I could have...

Speaker 1 No comment, yo.

Speaker 1 Out of nothing but respect for Remy, no comment.

Speaker 1 I hated that bar. That's a comment.
No, my thing is terrible. I'm tired of everybody running around saying, oh, enough with the Remy bars, enough with the Remy bars.

Speaker 1 Nigga, he is using Remy bars himself. And in battle rap, this is going to happen.
Yo, niggas is still making trick-trick jokes to my brother.

Speaker 1 Niggas Niggas are still talking to Hitman about the situation that happened to him. Like, we don't get to pick and choose.
Battle rap is battle rap.

Speaker 1 If something happened, your business get out there is going to be used against you.

Speaker 1 That little four-bar run with Suge was like, you was talking all that shit about Geechee hiding behind a tree, but they was strapped in the,

Speaker 1 and he had to make a decision. But when we saw you under that tree, You changed your religion or whatever the fucking said.
I was like, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 And I want to give Sug,

Speaker 1 I don't want to call him most improved because he's been on a little run.

Speaker 1 He's been on a run.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 That was my first time enjoying him that way, pause.

Speaker 1 Very confident. He slowed it down.
Slowed it down. Confident.
Yeah. It was slower.
It was legible. It was bar city.
That was

Speaker 1 tipped my head to shuge. Big jersey.
Yeah, fuck out of here. He's all them excuses.
Yeah. Talking about the venue.
Talking about Jersey and Jersey and 70. Nigga, y'all booked it.

Speaker 1 Niggas all us go with the places where they boo the fuck out of here. Bro, they booed.
When he battled Cassidy, they booed my brother the second he walked out there.

Speaker 1 He didn't even touch the stage yet. He booed the whole way.
You got to fight through that. Yeah, you got to.
But my thing is easy. You are, you and Rim are a thing.
Y'all booked this.

Speaker 1 You don't now get to say they set me up by having it in Jersey.

Speaker 1 It's y'all event.

Speaker 1 I hated that low punch line bar. It was terrible.
Oh, my God. I remember that shit was terrible.

Speaker 1 I re-watched Loaded Lux and Romanity on YouTube.

Speaker 1 Rom Nitty 2.1.

Speaker 1 You changed it?

Speaker 1 I said it already. Yeah, he said that.
I didn't know that. That's how I changed it.
Because he had to deal with Lux, and Lux showed up, but he dealt with him. He did.

Speaker 1 He dealt with him. I give the edge to Remy.
Rom Nitty.

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 1 I still got Lux.

Speaker 1 What am I going with for my sleepers?

Speaker 1 Sleepers. Where'd you get those sleepers

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 going old school

Speaker 1 I'm going old school let's see if I have this

Speaker 1 let's see if I can still spell all right I'm going with

Speaker 1 Lloyd player's prayer why the fuck not okay

Speaker 1 I'm gonna find out where they put in this laptop.

Speaker 1 He sounds just strong. I heard this talk a million times.
It should sound different.

Speaker 1 But I did, I wish I could have made a list.

Speaker 1 I'm calling it cell phone over and over.

Speaker 1 My heart is gone, but I don't wanna be sober.

Speaker 1 I'm feeling sick, pain at the flu.

Speaker 1 Girl, I'm missing you.

Speaker 1 Girl, I'm on my knees.

Speaker 1 I promise I'll be good, and I won't ever do it again.

Speaker 1 I'm on my knees,

Speaker 1 I can't get over you.

Speaker 1 All I need is one more chance.

Speaker 1 I was just playing with them girls, I was gonna get right back.

Speaker 1 Man, I was dripping your love, it's very sad.

Speaker 1 I'm on my knees,

Speaker 1 Lord, please show me some love.

Speaker 1 Answer this place, pray.

Speaker 1 Thou should not stand your boy, thou should not put his friends before you leave it only.

Speaker 1 Thou should not waste your time. Thou should not make it cry.

Speaker 1 But I need I was wrong, and I'm hating me.

Speaker 1 I'll make it set up for me over and over.

Speaker 1 I just don't, but I don't wanna be so

Speaker 1 sick.

Speaker 1 I ain't got the flu.

Speaker 1 I'm missing you.

Speaker 1 Your love on my knees.

Speaker 1 I promise I'll be good. I won't ever do it again.

Speaker 1 I ain't got my knees.

Speaker 1 I standing over you. And all I need is one

Speaker 1 choice.

Speaker 1 I was playing with the girls. I was gonna get right back.

Speaker 1 I was tripping. Your love is further sounds.

Speaker 1 I saw my knees,

Speaker 1 Lord, please. Show me some love.

Speaker 1 And then the blood is ready.

Speaker 1 I wasn't the crazy bad man. Cause I was trying to find

Speaker 1 me to guide. So got me

Speaker 1 all I know.

Speaker 1 I got your love.

Speaker 1 surely.

Speaker 1 Oh no, oh no, oh no.

Speaker 1 In my prayer,

Speaker 1 oh no, oh no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Girl, I'm on my knees.

Speaker 1 I promise I'll be good.

Speaker 1 And I will never do it again. again.

Speaker 1 I'm on my knees,

Speaker 1 take it over good.

Speaker 1 And all I need is one more chance.

Speaker 1 I was just playing with your

Speaker 1 bad

Speaker 1 bad

Speaker 1 place.

Speaker 1 I'm on my knees,

Speaker 1 lovely.

Speaker 1 Yo, that was Lloyd Player's Prayer.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the legend, man. I fuck with Lloyd, another one of the people I'm happy to have shared my time on Earth with, man.
Shout out to him.

Speaker 1 Oh, Lord. They are stupid in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 There do be some fun times in the kitchen. It do.
It do. It do, man.

Speaker 1 Yo, I'm going to Jersey City, man. Jersey, Jersey.
I'm in the Jersey mood still.

Speaker 1 This is Hood Olympics Remix. This is Albie Al, Benny the Butcher, JD Kiss.
This is Freeway. This is hard.

Speaker 1 I'm had to play this shit for weeks, too. This shit is hard.

Speaker 1 You are icy.

Speaker 1 remix. CC fight.

Speaker 1 This is the remix.

Speaker 1 This is the remix.

Speaker 1 Tryna get the homies on, swinging for the fences.

Speaker 1 Could have hoped, gone for it, like it's four for inches. Her name, he was talking bout bodies, put me in Olympics.
Put me in the wah, blah. Million-dollar nigga parked in the trenches.

Speaker 1 And I was all in the mouth, I could have been a dissent. Gotta keep that shit on me, I won't be a victim.
Two like a red nose. I'ma tell him stick them.
Look, I ain't got oppers, I just got haters.

Speaker 1 Never tell a cop nothing, never give him data. But you a real motherfucker, you don't count favors.

Speaker 1 Come back 4-5 with the green laser. Mask on in the streets, fightin' like a vapor.

Speaker 1 Dark Vader, Luke Skywalker. Last op, I call lack and he and the skywalker.
Got a sixth sense. Sometimes I hear the sky talker.

Speaker 1 I hate a hoe, I hate a bitter nigga. Hash he watch your kid like a center nigga.
See, I'm the type to hop

Speaker 1 I'm always there when they call me. And your bra be on ghost.
I pull my hair in my outer and let her sit on it.

Speaker 1 Hood saves your streets. Love me.
Speak the hood's language. Keep the ladder on my opps is getting nicked standards.
Fireman, grab the potent cause we live dangerous.

Speaker 1 Came up spitting old English, made the big beer famous. Please a link with all the y'all, it's that feeling.

Speaker 1 Yo, niggas wanna meet Jamaica, we can make arrangements. I'll be in Jamaica, sipping daggeries with Maya.
Then my shooter gets the wire, second action body hit the payment.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we used to hit the road to get the payment. Used to have to use the duffel bag to get the case.

Speaker 1 We still hit the road to get the dope, but we ain't pushing purse. Promoters pay me any capable spoken word.

Speaker 1 Y'all baits pull up and let me poke their bellies. Every time y'all niggas trust them out and earth, they nerve.
Lost my son through the five, but then I re-emerge.

Speaker 1 That's the greatest about to get the paper we deserve.

Speaker 1 It's gon' be a standoff with squat. My last deal, gave West a hundred grand off the top.
Ever see a grown man get ran off a block? Chill, wait, have you ever ran off of blocks?

Speaker 1 The whole city know you got bread on your top. Fuck that, tell me.
Ever had to hand off a Glock? And don't feel no regrets when you hear all the shots.

Speaker 1 The streets made me what I'm running from. Heavy and fluid.
See my homie with a roly and I wanted one now. He on the tear eating honey buns.
I'm still here.

Speaker 1 He know I got him like the gear when you bungee jump. This butch, I was in the game when y'all fronted.
In the lunch line, asking for change for a hundred.

Speaker 1 When it's crunch time, with the clip, don't hang, I don't want it. Got a beam on the front, but can't aim with a button.
Now I'm down, play this rap shit. That nigga's two street, huh?

Speaker 1 I'm on tour for like two, three months. Me and and a fork versus pop like a 2v1.
Too many bricks, I called him and told him you keep some. Washington YSM trial, duck the DA and the ATM.

Speaker 1 I'm worried about the bad rest now. You couldn't pay me to go back.

Speaker 1 That's bullshit.

Speaker 1 Who shot who, and who got what? And who's selling it? Niggas leaking fluid, see me getting to it. My man got an elbow and he ain't even do it.
Don't try to understand me, muzzle on the swimmy.

Speaker 1 A bag on your head, that's a duffel on your family.

Speaker 1 It could be a key announce. Hope you see it bounce.
Till they let the bros go, may they free the count.

Speaker 1 I'm harder than the pedal to the shit on the rollback. Nigga, I sold crack, whole lack.
Down south, middle with the trenches. Lil' niggas with gold caps.
Cloth don't exist. Hit a sauce on your bitch.

Speaker 1 Money ain't a thing, but it costs to be rich. Niggas only wanna hold a torch when it's lit.
In time, you realize he ain't awesome as this. You know me wherever the work be.

Speaker 1 Celebrate me on my birthday, not when they murk me.

Speaker 1 From Walburgen to Marion, we get it done, y'all niggas carry on. Try to get to home, swinging for the fences.

Speaker 1 And that is Hood Olympics remix. Albie Al Freeway, Benny the Butcher, and Jadakiss.
That's my type of shit right there.

Speaker 1 That was hard.

Speaker 1 That was hard. Oh, you know where I'm going.
I'm going to Bam Buddy. I'm going to Puerto Rico.
I think of Benny and Jadic. This is Nueva Yo.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to get be pregnant with Dr.

Speaker 1 Smith.

Speaker 1 aven la que yoy con la no de moi, por vochiento moi. Vili coloma disa mel malo, ay, porque pasa los san yencigo dan topalo.
Tanque esto dico, como cuado frido colo.

Speaker 1 El parito unco, si si el tú sirosita. Eh uh, no da confunda, no, no, man.

Speaker 1 Ay, unchata canitan casado nito. Parasa sientas el quito.
Si, si, si. Camar campionato na diamero vito.
Se besta nebu, no me wande esta nebo, okay.

Speaker 1 Puerto Rico, como va boni va segre del pop, eye, con drego tú mi dambo, eye, con drego tú mi dambo, si, conrego tú mi dambo, como va boni va se redel pop, eye, conrego tumidambo.

Speaker 1 Ma senco como elo, pien topelto. Tampeyo no si, vaguenos el flo.
Talo volo, pimpon, proposo.

Speaker 1 Big pong concilencio dolero vamo locoto. Yo y bon, ey.
Yo toya en la mi ya ano tengoa per sorio. No, con lo yan quila mán vuanzado.
A correlco travelos a camo lo toyo.

Speaker 1 Give some coochie.

Speaker 1 That's Nueva Yo, Bad Bunny. Dagam all.
The new album is absolutely fire. You go by melodies just to play these songs.
No, I need to hear this outside. ASAP.
What? ASAP.

Speaker 1 Fucked up part, ain't on mini skirts with the hills. I know.
You know, them shits be flaring and spilling. They're just still going to be here in the summertime.
I promise you that.

Speaker 1 They're going to be here. They're not here.

Speaker 1 Hoes in the cold. That's true, too.
Good point. That's true too.
Hoes staying outside for four hours in the cold.

Speaker 1 I'm going to...

Speaker 1 Gentleman's name is,

Speaker 1 I think it's Arimit Row.

Speaker 1 Sure. Or Arimitro.
I don't know how to pronounce it, but. Arimitros.
I don't know. Song is called You and I.

Speaker 1 But it feels right.

Speaker 1 You're ready.

Speaker 1 And I.

Speaker 1 But it feels right

Speaker 1 Cause I'm outside of

Speaker 1 You and I

Speaker 1 No we ain't a mess, but you're my time

Speaker 1 Cause I'm outside of In your mind

Speaker 1 But it feels right

Speaker 1 You and I

Speaker 1 And I

Speaker 1 Maybe it's the way that you show me love and affection Deep conversations, I can be the one if you let me Missing them long nights, you will come over and get messed Innocent weed is all I need to get you ready Girl, I know you're toxic

Speaker 1 You're always telling me I'm not sure

Speaker 1 doubt it.

Speaker 1 Don't wanna be with no one else.

Speaker 1 Feels like there ain't nothing left.

Speaker 1 I know I've been up with us.

Speaker 1 But I want you all to myself.

Speaker 1 You and I, you and I, you and I.

Speaker 1 No, we ain't a match, but you're my side.

Speaker 1 Cause I'm all tied up

Speaker 1 in your mind.

Speaker 1 But it feels right.

Speaker 1 You and I

Speaker 1 and I,

Speaker 1 but it feels right.

Speaker 1 No, we ain't a match, but you're my side.

Speaker 1 Cause I'm all tied up

Speaker 1 in your mind.

Speaker 1 But it feels right,

Speaker 1 you and I

Speaker 1 and I

Speaker 1 that is a rem a remitross

Speaker 1 you and I the letters

Speaker 1 That was fire. I'm sorry for butchering your name

Speaker 1 because that was fire

Speaker 1 Big Bill you gonna join us today?

Speaker 1 You gonna send me some

Speaker 1 Did you get it? I did okay

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 2 It's called Minute by Hablo Brown. Suck a dick.
It's called Minute by Hablo Brown.

Speaker 1 You guys are good.

Speaker 1 My man.

Speaker 1 Fuck off.

Speaker 2 Never.

Speaker 1 I'd be teaching you shit.

Speaker 1 In a while, while, I was down.

Speaker 1 But I'm better now

Speaker 1 floating high

Speaker 1 below.

Speaker 1 Till I hit the ground.

Speaker 1 Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad.

Speaker 1 I don't really want you

Speaker 1 the minute that I got you fading up.

Speaker 1 I don't really want you.

Speaker 1 The minute that I got you, fading up. What you say

Speaker 1 got me reminiscing about the days in LA back when Karma didn't even have a face. It was fake.
1321, that's the base. I'm gonna say, Fred always stayed the same.

Speaker 1 I was stopped, but I'm better now.

Speaker 1 That is Minute by Heblo Brown.

Speaker 1 I like it. They look like they're trying to revive Yacht Rock.

Speaker 1 Hablo Brown's my guy right there. That's my guy.

Speaker 1 She's my son. Not enough.

Speaker 1 Mel been my son, man. Not even close.
It's cool, man.

Speaker 1 Good dad to have.

Speaker 1 Ish won sleepers.

Speaker 1 Ish won the sleeper award. Okay.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, I don't know.
Yo, pay attention over there.

Speaker 1 Yes, you do a hurts Discord.

Speaker 1 I wasn't.

Speaker 1 I wasn't mine. You hear everything.
Yo, give niggas a break.

Speaker 1 Get your hands off the streets. My nigga.
That's not even true, though. Ish get that Discord.

Speaker 1 The hammer on him.

Speaker 1 I've seen it too. I don't go there because I know my nigga letting the hair fly.

Speaker 1 I don't know. You did cursing niggas up? No.

Speaker 1 I want to hear it now, though. Well, do you have

Speaker 1 an award speech? Mel, why you don't look happy for him? I am. You thought

Speaker 1 that would have been your award. I'm indifferent.

Speaker 1 Why are you indifferent

Speaker 2 because I just am. Congratulations or

Speaker 1 sorry, salty or whatever. Yeah,

Speaker 1 Jesus.

Speaker 1 You wasn't happy, man. You thought he won the lot of the scratch off? Yeah, I told you.

Speaker 2 I said I was ambivalent.

Speaker 1 She said she was ambivalent. She was ambivalent.
I don't know what that means. Like, I saw Maleficent.
I don't believe. Yeah, she was mad.
You stay away from those groups, don't you?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he don't fuck with that. He don't give a fuck how much time you cheer him on.
He ain't going over there.

Speaker 1 He stays stronger than bullshit. You can cheer me on.
I don't give a fuck. Fuck.

Speaker 1 That's number five. That's number five on my 2025 list.
Space less.

Speaker 1 Space less. No.
No.

Speaker 1 I'm giving y'all my list. I'm not telling nobody what to do with their list.
Oh, no, I was saying I don't believe

Speaker 1 it. You're an active case and TMZ.

Speaker 1 Outside of that,

Speaker 1 anybody. Y'all dude, y'all what? Stop doing that, bro.

Speaker 1 This dumb nigga gonna say, no, that's not, I didn't call you dumb. But fuck y'all say y'all called TMZ on my side.
I didn't say that. I said the style of the streets.
I streets said it.

Speaker 1 No, he said it for us. I said the streets said it.

Speaker 1 TMZ said it.

Speaker 1 TMZ never said no shit like that. I'm joking.

Speaker 1 I told the streets they was lying. That shit is insulting to me as a character.
Yo,

Speaker 1 back. Your streets.
Stop lying on me. I'm at your back.
But ice. So that Park said in the group then.

Speaker 1 No, I said what the street said. The streets said, Yo, this nigga flip.

Speaker 1 TMZ. How do you do it?

Speaker 1 Tell him. I didn't do that.
That nigga is. That shit hurt my feelings.
I said,

Speaker 1 yo, I was fired

Speaker 1 so bad. Why would you fire at me if I'm telling

Speaker 1 you? TMZ called my mother. Somebody from from TMZ called my mother and she called me.
Oh, and you met with them? Yeah. Oh.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it was a scheduled meetup.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? Yes. And what storm was that? Well, that was over there about Mufu.
I told him I'll be over in this area.

Speaker 1 They came. They did.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They did. You did in New Jersey? Of course I did.
I thought they caught you in Queens, so that's what I was talking about. I thought they caught him at an airport.

Speaker 1 They were just at his crib.

Speaker 1 That was your scheduled meetup. Usually they catch a a nigga at the airport

Speaker 1 outside the club. Nah, they don't catch you at the airport.
That's not how it works. But they reached out and said, yo, we want to speak about this situation.
I hit Ian up. He told me nah.

Speaker 1 But it was already too late.

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 It's cool.

Speaker 1 It's the flipping mark beef all over again. Just let it ride.
It's my man. It is.
I didn't do that. It's my man, no matter what.
You just want to find a reason to be. Turn that shit off real quick.

Speaker 1 You just want to find a reason to be aggravated. I get what you're saying.
I'm down with you. But there's no way you can watch that and feel like your flip did.

Speaker 1 Yes, you could. For real? You said you called Ian.
No, we're talking about. No, no, no.
He didn't know about that part. He just found out that about that part.
Let Freeze Cook though for a second.

Speaker 1 I got it. You said you called Ian.
Ian, TMZ wants to meet me. Give me something to say to them because I don't want to incriminate my man and I want to troll them.
And what did he tell you?

Speaker 1 He said, give me five minutes. I'm going to call you back.
Then he sends me a text. Yo, Joe got some active shit going on.
I don't think you should do it. But that was like 3:50-something.

Speaker 1 I was already on my way to meet them at four. So you didn't do it yet.
No.

Speaker 1 And you still did it. And you still did it.

Speaker 1 yeah, I didn't think that.

Speaker 1 But your loyalty is to TMZ. No, my JB.
Your loyalty is to the content. But what I'm saying is that.
Not the JB.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. Don't play.
Don't disrespect me like that.

Speaker 1 Don't disrespect me like that. Niggas see me after

Speaker 1 when you watch it. I don't think it was bad at all.
Me.

Speaker 1 What did they ask you? But that's not for you to decide. True.
And if he decides,

Speaker 1 it's not on me to decide either. But you didn't decide anything that was bad.
It ain't on me to decide.

Speaker 1 If that judge would have taken it away that you you niggas are doing press while I got this active, serious case going on, then that.

Speaker 1 I get it. I get it.
I got you. I thought I did a good job.

Speaker 1 What did they ask you? Just about to talk about Joe's character, then I stopped him and shit. Like, ah, hold on, that's my man.
He didn't say nothing bad about me. His response was great.

Speaker 1 It's just the fact that there's press being done while I got this. I get it.
No, I get it. It's a very serious.
It's serious. I was in serious shit.

Speaker 1 I get that I might have made it look a certain way, even though I don't even think that. I think I was looking stressed.
No, you was. Bummed out.
Dirty sweats. I know you know that.

Speaker 1 Old school was back. What?

Speaker 1 Oh, my lord, yo. But each time you got a call,

Speaker 1 no, he didn't look fucked up. You know, Rich fucked up.
But each time you got a call, each time you got a call, we could see the tension come up, you know. I'm telling you.
Come down and down.

Speaker 1 He ain't look fucked up. He can't trick us.

Speaker 1 Let's strike against this nigga, yo. Look the way I look right now.
Did I show up the park crib looking like that? Yes. No.
No. Different sweatsuit, difference in the cups.

Speaker 1 You had no jewelry on, right? There wasn't no top of no jewelry. Nigga, put his jewelry in the box.
Oh, my lord, that jewelry had to go. That's number six on my list.

Speaker 1 What are you saying that, though, guys? That's jewelry. Nigga, you acted for me.
I couldn't get it back in. Hey, you did.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I made the call.
Hey,

Speaker 1 the goon walked in for real.

Speaker 1 Wait, what? The goon walked in today for real.

Speaker 1 You scared the shit out of me.

Speaker 1 Why she talked? How's he so quiet?

Speaker 1 You can't be no disrespect. You can't be that size and just be that quiet, nigga.
Like, walk. That bitch be tiptoeing forward.

Speaker 1 Every morning I try it. I wake up.
I woke up 4:45 this morning, talking about some shit. Hey.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Husky. Hey.

Speaker 1 It's cold out there, isn't it? I'm like, wait. Bitch, go to bed.

Speaker 1 If you watch Joe's face, it really begins.

Speaker 1 He just trying to think, like, what the fuck is going on? No, if I had hindsight back in the day, I'd have never dated Scorpio. You think it's so? You believe in the sign thing, right? Like Scorpio.

Speaker 1 I believe it. I'm starting to.
I believe it.

Speaker 1 I know you didn't believe in the Scorpio.

Speaker 1 I'm starting to believe in in some of that shit.

Speaker 1 It's just too much that's happening.

Speaker 1 I believe in you.

Speaker 1 It's just signs that just fit certain people, man. Yeah, for sure.
I've definitely been a significant thing. I'm in signature now.
Scorpios and Tauruses really are for Virgos.

Speaker 1 I think any other sign of Virgo will spend them right into the grave. But Tauruses and Scorpios don't know how to play right.
They like the shooters of the signs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I ain't gonna. I watched the Taurus, so I gotta learn more about signs.
I don't really believe in it. Virgo, Capricorn, Strong.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Virgo's going to fall to anybody with fucking good sex, which is Scorpios and Taurus, too.

Speaker 1 In the Zodiac. Got it.

Speaker 1 In the Zodiac.

Speaker 1 Not you.

Speaker 1 Leave her alone. Boy, because she be thinking she's a Scorpio.

Speaker 1 What's your rising song?

Speaker 2 Hey, look, I got fucking small hands, a soft mouth, okay?

Speaker 1 I'm doing just my own money.

Speaker 1 Hey, no, stopping her now.

Speaker 1 She's on the move.

Speaker 1 Let's go, man.

Speaker 1 I'm right now. I lost you.

Speaker 1 You had that plan in your hand. Yo,

Speaker 1 fuck you, yo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't feel like that. That's going to my muscles.
I already

Speaker 1 know. Power dynamic should have stopped that, but it didn't.

Speaker 1 Man. Wait, she said small hands.
What'd that mean? I don't know. It's something crazy.
It sounded like some. It'll help you.
Never mind.

Speaker 1 Make your shit look big.

Speaker 2 If you know, you know.

Speaker 1 Oh, she can do the two.

Speaker 1 She can do the two hands, shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're going to fit that there, man?

Speaker 1 Oh, you gonna do the two hands to me? Not T, man. I'm talking about in general.
Nope. Bitch,

Speaker 1 you freaking.

Speaker 1 No, don't do that. You can't do that.

Speaker 1 You can't do that. I want to see.

Speaker 1 That's been so.

Speaker 1 Okay. Listen.

Speaker 1 Good show today.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me put my headphones off for a minute.
Let me put my headphones on real quick.

Speaker 1 Gotta stop. Gotta stop the broadcast, not the music, but I gotta stop the broadcast for a real one.
We wanna shout to Zaire Franklin, friend of the show. Yes, sir.
Friend of the show.

Speaker 1 Hit the round of applause. Very first Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 Very first Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 NFL sack. Anyone tackle.
You want to tackle it. Sack, you hear me?

Speaker 1 Sacks.

Speaker 1 NFL fucking tackle leader,

Speaker 1 Zaire Franklin, and gave Pat McAfee that imaginary death. Yeah, I like a little lightweight crash out.
Directly after I call a nigga and say, yo, whatever you do, don't crash out.

Speaker 1 That's my favorite time when niggas to crash out.

Speaker 1 Anyway, man,

Speaker 1 yo, I want to again shout out to the judge. Shout out to prize picks.
Shout out to my attorney. Shout out to the fans.
Thank you for your patience during this very tough and embarrassing time for me.

Speaker 1 I was, oh my god, so embarrassed and ashamed.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you. I gotta work on feeling embarrassed.

Speaker 1 I don't embarrass right. Like,

Speaker 1 even on a stand,

Speaker 1 I was getting my bag. I stopped and played.
And I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, God.

Speaker 1 Yo, I got to take the stand more often.

Speaker 1 No, no. Oh, my God.
No, for real. That shit is an experience.

Speaker 1 Like, every word you say, man, I was in their ass on that stand. Oh, you got a cooker?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because

Speaker 1 you can only answer the question that you asked.

Speaker 1 So it's up to your wit to say what you're trying to say. Or it's up to your wit to make your lawyer ask you some more shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So they're going to ask a very simple question, and I spend all that shit into these. These racist fucks.

Speaker 1 Here go their lawyer. I have checked.
I am checked. I have checked.
Yeah, nigga, shut up. Oh, man.
What a fun time, but not so fun time. It's dark and hell is hot.
Let me remind y'all.

Speaker 1 Keep us in your prayers. I am a shining example of that.

Speaker 1 Lord, Lord knows. Oh, my God, Lord knows.
Y'all think it's just a pod outro. It should be real shit, man.
We need your prayers. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be here.
Until next time, I bid you adieu farewell. Adio, Sereba, Dirchi, Asta, La Vista, Auvoir.
So long, goodbye. A simple head nod will suffice.

Speaker 1 Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
And lastly, let's go, Big Mel. You got it.
Come on, I heard you do it while I was gone.

Speaker 1 Lastly, what? The daddy, the baddies, and the cutie pies, and the stagnant women, and the closed-minded. He's fucking my outro.

Speaker 1 I think I did it right.

Speaker 2 The baddies are insecure. Now you're sitting right next to me and I'm all fucked up.
Baddies are insecure.

Speaker 1 What's the name of that?

Speaker 2 The stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want to

Speaker 2 teach them things. Grab you a tile and all.

Speaker 1 You're going to need it. There you go.
Okay. Big Mel.
Big fucking Mel, man.

Speaker 1 Again, again, thank you guys. Thank you guys.
Happy to be back with y'all. Happy to be back over here.

Speaker 1 Again, round of applause for Park Studio. Thank you.
Round of applause.

Speaker 1 Park came in. You goddamn right.

Speaker 2 The basement was fun.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to rearrange.

Speaker 1 Fuck you.

Speaker 1 Fucking my shit up. Leaving water bottles all over the place.
I don't care about that shit. I just, my man cave is gone, my control room's the wrong side, it's all, the feng shui is all backwards.

Speaker 1 And you know what? As convenient as it is to just work from home or just go right downstairs, sometimes it's good to just take a little drive real quick to work. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like I said, I enjoyed driving here.

Speaker 1 It's nice to get the fuck out the house. Oh, man.
Man, you got the benefit of coming the other way. Pause.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. What you mean? Going into the news.

Speaker 1 Going into New York is different than coming from New York. I got to go back into New York.
Yeah, but it's different. But it's different.

Speaker 1 Now it's reverse. It's different.
It's reverse. All of the people who are fucking New Jersey people.
Yeah, the Jersey people work in the city. Right.
Nobody don't live in the city, work over here.

Speaker 1 They don't pay enough.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? We get caught sometimes.

Speaker 1 That shit different.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, catch steak. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gone, but not forgotten.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of good times over there, man.

Speaker 1 Shout out to everybody who might be mourning with us. Shout out to Maddie, too, man.
I seen Rihanna hit that girl's love karaoke.

Speaker 1 I seen that Riri was up in there.

Speaker 1 Hey, I'm so proud of her. Proud of Maddie, man.

Speaker 1 Until next time, y'all hold it down out there.

Speaker 1 Actually,

Speaker 1 I thought the nigga with the cat was He's wild at the smell.

Speaker 1 You go too far.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? In memory of me.

Speaker 1 In memory of naked means.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, everybody heard this podcast, so I don't have to continue to explain myself to bartenders while they make me pineapple juice.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna let this hook go and we are gone.

Speaker 1 He needs one of these. He needs one of these.
This shit ain't bad, right? He better call Tank. He better.

Speaker 1 Who wrote this motherfucker? Tank, right?

Speaker 1 He better call Tank.

Speaker 1 Playing around, man. Now he writes his own music.
Zee when Tank was here.

Speaker 1 I played fucking I'm Not Perfect. Sure did.

Speaker 1 Hey, so much.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 If this shit happened to anybody else, I would be on the ass, boy. Can you tell me about it? I appreciate the ops, man.

Speaker 1 I appreciate the ops. Y'all took it easy on me.

Speaker 1 It took it easy, Paul.

Speaker 1 Alright, man, until the next time.

Speaker 1 Big jersey, big jersey.

Speaker 1 Hey, why this shit is too long, sorry.

Speaker 1 JBP, JBP, why would you be without the JBP?

Speaker 1 Mitch!