Episode 823 | "They Let You Stay In Haiti?"

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How many times do I take it?

Zeppy!

I'm at me, dog bitch.

I don't fuck with y'all, y'all.

They can't see my eyes.

Unless my head is bent.

You did?

We fly.

Don't lie.

You know this.

Zeppy.

You look good, bro.

How the fuck you lost weight like that so fast, nigga?

You just said

shit.

Don't baby no Portuguese neither, nigga.

It's not Portugal.

That's that Zeps.

Don't do that.

You said Skag.

That's what it is.

Skag.

Don't put that on issue.

Skag and Beasles.

Skag answer.

You look good though, little combination.

We ain't recording.

We are, but I mean,

we are.

Fox, man.

This should be the worst nigga to do skag with.

Thank God he drug-free.

Indeed.

I ain't even old.

Indeed.

That nigga be sitting there talking a fucking.

Oh, my lord.

when my when my mom and dad get to talking about their story that predates me that's part of it how my mom was the worst person for my dad to get high with because she always heard noises

oh man the paranoid ones

yo I wasn't on earth but knowing my mom

just sounds annoying

all right I'm shutting up party in trouble

what's up man

how y'all feeling what up what up feeling great How you feeling?

Feeling good.

Nice, rainy day.

Nice.

Oh, yeah.

That's your bag.

I thought they faked us out all weekend.

It was all nice and shit.

Well, Saturday was out.

Saturday was the fake out.

Yeah, Saturday was fake out.

Saturday was the fake out.

But that let me know that it was coming.

Go ahead and get y'all a little last hot day.

All y'all in Stafford and at the bars and just out there being fast, being a little hot asses.

Because the weather's nice.

Traffic all backed up.

Take two hours to get where it would take an hour to get.

Oh, I hated it.

I don't understand that.

I hated it Saturday.

I hated it today.

Why does no one know how to drive as soon as a drop of rain shows?

In the rain,

people can't drive.

All it takes is one person.

Turn signal, not turning, in two lanes.

No reason whatsoever, except that it's raining.

It don't be no accident.

It'd be nothing.

One person just slow down and it fucks all the way up.

But I'm not even talking about it.

Is it too early to be an elitist in the show?

No, never.

There's a lot of poor cars on the road.

No, for real, because I can't put this all on human error.

Some of these cars is out here with no tread on the tires.

Some of y'all is out there with

the bad rear-wheel drive, not the good ones.

A lot of it fucked up.

That shit just drips.

Some of these niggas, all the lights on is in the, come on, niggas ain't going to the mechanic.

Niggas ain't going to the doctor.

Niggas ain't.

Hey, and y'all just had the money for the cars.

So all them extra extra questions they asked, you skipped them.

Walk right out of it.

Yo, would you like tire and jar?

Nah, gave my shit.

I'm out of here.

All right, would you like the extended work?

Nope.

All right, we have a 100,000 mile plan.

Nope.

Sorry.

So yeah, that's what it is.

Four people cars on the road.

People don't know how to drive them.

Sorry.

There was a couple nice cars.

Do it.

Y'all all in here get stupid.

But I seen all y'all's cars.

So y'all don't have to hide the laughter?

I came downstairs and seen y'all's cars.

Why y'all up here, John?

I really wish you hadn't come down.

The one day you come spent time with us was the day we were all in the parking lot.

That nigga, Mark, pulled up.

I would mean like Pier Shade.

You can't see my eyes.

Yeah, he upgraded.

He had some shit written on the side I never even seen on that car.

Limited edition.

He had the upgraded shit, too.

Oh, you got the Eddie Bauer showing up.

Yeah, he had the Eddie Bauer joint.

Yeah, he had the Eddie Bauer joy.

It's cool.

Hilarious.

It's cool.

How y'all feeling?

Feeling good, man.

Good.

Happy to see y'all.

How's your weekend as well?

How's your weekend?

How's my weekend?

Yeah.

My weekend was good.

Saturday, I was just chilling in the house, cuddling with my baby.

Oh,

that's always a good thing.

But I made a mistake.

I promised him that tomorrow I would take him to his best friend's house, Vincent.

Shout out to Vincent.

And my baby, he's communicating and shit.

Stop doing that.

He's like, hey, dog.

Hey, I go to Vincent's house.

I'm throwing every excuse in the book at this thing.

No, the rain, the weather, this nigga go on the weather app.

Supposed to light up?

Look like we'll be in the clear here.

Nigga, I'm still dodging it.

I ain't gonna let this seven-year-old win.

He texts, he texts somebody, somebody, mom, Jackie.

Jackie, I need Vincent's mom's number behind my back.

So, Sunday morning, when he wakes up at 9, 9 a.m., time to go.

First person he texts behind my back is Vincent mom.

Oh, shit.

Hey,

think I can slide over today?

This is against.

I couldn't do no shit like this, bro.

It's different, my nigga.

Vincent mom.

I don't know how I feel about my kid texting adults making plans.

I don't know about that.

Nigga, my daughter got a conversation.

No, no, your kid should not text adults to make plans, but this is really his best friend.

We know that.

No, I get it.

I get it.

But no.

I still know.

Your kid is going to know how to text.

That's what scares me.

His name is.

And

he or she will have a device to do so.

Sure.

And you're going to be in your room with a Bex

Budweiser watching the game.

You can't even hit them with the lie of like,

yo, in an hour.

They know how to set the timer.

They did it.

The timer goes off in yo, an hour.

I was like, yo, come on.

This kid's sitting there looking at the time

like he got a watch.

Hey, dog, you said three o'clock.

It's about that time.

We should get out if we're going to get going.

Go have school tomorrow.

Yep, now's a good.

So I took him over to his best friend house.

That's right.

And that was the weekend.

I couldn't trick him.

Sober.

These tablets, they got them, them, bro.

Yeah.

Then they got you.

No, they got them and then the kids got us.

He on there buying the $500 shit for Roblox.

Oh shit.

He bugging now.

These little outfits,

your card is on this, on the file?

No, Sade's card is on foul.

Same thing.

Same thing.

Same thing.

Clean it up, nigga.

Make you feel better.

She'll pop up, nigga.

Watch it.

Watch it, nigga.

She'll pop up.

That's just true.

She'll hear this shit, man.

Did Mark just say that?

It is the same thing.

It is.

It is the same thing.

Oh, I fell for the trap.

It is, because it is the same thing.

But I do feel good about it.

And is it her bread if it's the same thing?

No, it's her bread.

So you believe that even though you give her the money.

No, she has money.

No, I know she has money, but I'm just saying, remember, we had a conversation.

Y'all tell me about that.

Because some people ran down on me this weekend in Philly while I was up there about that conversation that we had when I said that if I give my wife the money, it's still my money.

But they agreed with y'all.

They said, flip, you bugging, nigga, that's her money.

So you still stand on the same side.

What was my position?

Your position was: I can't say that.

It's her money.

Because I was saying that if you give your wife money, she buy the gift.

If she buys you a gift,

it's you that you're because it's your money.

Nope.

And you was like, nah, I don't agree with that.

No, I don't agree with that.

Yeah, yeah.

That's her money.

Niggas, man.

Listen, when my baby bought me a trip to fucking Meganos, that was her when she was.

I got it.

MX niggas was like, yo, that was her on the phone.

I got it.

Yeah, no, I was chilling.

He ran down on me about that.

I'm like, y'all niggas is crazy, man.

I believe what I'm saying.

You're safe, though, right?

Yeah, I'm good.

I was in Philly this weekend.

Shout out to Mark.

He called me, make sure I was good, too.

Yo, you need anything?

It was good.

This is Flip the Network shit.

It was nice.

You put some checking them?

Yeah, yeah.

Huh?

That's good.

Did you go buy books?

Nah, I didn't buy books, but I am going to go buy some books.

I'm going back down there.

I told my books, I said, Flip is coming through.

You know what I mean?

Look out for him.

And he can show up.

They said he was a fan of the book.

Give him a free book, Mark.

Yo, look at this nigga, Mark.

Look at this nigga Mark calling me.

Yo, hey, if you need somebody to make errands for you, call me.

I'm going to make it happen.

Like, in my head, I'm like, who the fuck this nigga think he is?

I had a body man for him.

So, like, he's fire, but you know,

you ain't gonna utilize me, nigga.

You ain't gonna get me.

A body man?

Like, a bodyguard?

No, like, like somebody who, like, running, like, like, somebody who, like, run.

Hey, you smart.

Hey, don't fall for none of that tips or tricks.

That's a setup.

That shit is a line of

all that mark behind the scenes, basketball games, and fucking

regular pictures.

Restaurants, nah.

That nigga is crazy.

Nah, Mark called my phone off-work hours now.

Nah, I ain't speaking this.

The way you put shit together, so this thing, I'm like, all right, all right, ball.

I told you later.

Thank you, though.

Thank you.

Nah.

I was trying to be helpful, man.

You was, though, I appreciate that.

I appreciate that.

I wish you'd have told me I probably had a crib for you to use it.

Oh, yeah.

Good looking, man.

Thank you.

But we took care of it.

Beautiful weekend.

Network.

A couple of artists and shit.

Have fun, man.

Artists assist.

Artists.

Artists.

Artists.

Farm me.

Thank you.

That's when I would have.

Somebody laugh back there.

Is that a white man?

Was that a white man laughing at my?

If I was an aspiring rapper.

Nothing.

Nothing.

You heard your man back there just laughed at me, but I said, artists, and it's artists.

Ericsson.

Yo, what's taking so long so that's Ericsson, nigga, that's eating.

Yo, what's taking so long to get the camera on Erickson or in that back room?

Nigga.

For y'all little back room shenanigans.

Hold it out.

Didn't I ask for that shit like a year ago?

Yeah, nigga.

Check shit.

We asked for it, nigga.

It's up.

Well, if it's up, then why don't never see y'all faces back there.

You can cut to it.

Yeah.

How about it?

He's checking niggas like that.

How about it?

Let's cut to it.

One, two, three.

Oh, you got a lot of...

Yo, we got eight cameras.

Every time niggas come in here, they'll be like, Winners like this, that's the first thing they do when they get here, start looking.

Why is that such a nigga?

Nori,

everybody that walks through.

This is what Norrie did.

His man did.

This is nice.

Joe, Look at Joe Pussy ass just watching.

Tight.

Like,

what you would have done?

I don't know.

I don't know.

But I watched that nigga record it.

This is man nice.

They come with their cameraman.

The cameraman, they start talking to Eric Cinch.

Yo, yo, yo.

Find out what the gear is.

I was surprised.

When I came as a guest, I looked at this motherfucker.

Yeah, he got it.

He got different than I thought it was going to look.

Yeah, he got it hooked up.

What did you think it was going to look like?

Some ghetto shit.

Yeah, throw like two cameras, two DSLRs, maybe.

Wait, what was it?

A couple of night colours.

He thought we were going to have a couple night colours.

But

nobody, a lot of podcasts.

He thought your studio was going to be ghetto.

That's what he just said.

He did.

This just said some ghetto shit, actually.

Is that what he said?

I didn't say that.

I did, but then he said that.

No, no translation.

Nah, nah.

No, but I mean, the camera setup, the type of cameras,

the sound, all this shit is, this is high-tech.

I didn't know that coming in.

It looks good on screen, but some people do it with a lot less.

Y'all do it like fly.

It don't look, it sounds the same.

They don't.

And now I understand why.

I ain't know.

There's eight cameras, nigga.

I see niggas with iPhones on a tripod.

Right.

Yo, dead ass.

Niggas be having the Mitch Match cannons and Sony's bullshit.

This shit is hell.

No wonder niggas be surprised.

Thank you guys.

Fuck you, nigga.

And they got the strongest.

Man, for the aspiring content creators out there, just know that we didn't start out this way.

That's true.

So if you keep your head down and

keep the mission in place and in front of you, then you'll be able to work and get everything you want to.

Don't compare your day one to someone else's day one trillion.

True.

And if you fail, he's going to play another one bites the dust.

That's all I do.

And then he's going to laugh.

So make sure you keep it up.

Y'all want to retire it?

If y'all want to retire it, I'm down to retire it.

No, no, absolutely not.

I think.

It's funny, but I be feeling bad when you do it, boy.

That shit you did with Math.

That was fucked up.

That shit was.

You caught that nigga real time.

That was fucked up.

Yeah, Yeah, that was fucked up.

That was fucked up.

Yeah, like, that thing was a little bad.

Mark and Mel, what did y'all vote?

I didn't hear from you.

I will retire it.

Really?

Unless it's your enemy.

If it's your enemy that's different, but just every time a nigga fell, we celebrate, we dance on their grave.

I don't know.

They are my enemy.

He's definitely made that.

Well, not

enemy enemy.

Not a real enemy, but in the fake content world, every content that's not this content is my enemy.

Okay.

Look,

I don't feel that strong about it, but if I just had to vote, I'd say no.

I say retired.

I say retired, too.

I say retired.

I say keep it alive.

That's three.

All right, we got one for.

What do you say, free?

What's your key?

I say two for keep.

Ish?

Ish.

Tiebreaker.

Come on, ish.

Ish ain't the tiebreaker.

Mel will be the tiebreaker, depending on what ish say.

Y'all don't draft.

I want to hear what you say.

Mel wants to keep it.

Now Ish is a tiebreaker.

3-3, Mel wants to keep it.

She just won't say it.

I want to keep it.

Of course you.

Let's fucking fucking go.

Let's fucking go.

Huh?

No, wait.

I'm tapping for you.

No, no, no, no.

Because I really wanted to keep it, but I said so much that I kept.

I tried to say it.

I wanted to keep it, but I didn't want to say it.

No, it's too mean.

It's too me.

It is me.

It's capped.

But so.

You called the nigga and played it.

That was fucked up.

You played it in the background while you were talking to him.

Yo, hey.

Hello?

That's good.

How you?

All right, well, let's try it this way.

Yes.

In the event that this podcast were to abruptly come to an end

on some bullshit, too.

Not just

where we crowded all the way to the sunset.

Yeah, no, not no half.

Becca and Quest love that shit.

I listen to that episode.

That was a great finale.

Shout out to Quest Love Friends.

Shout out to Quest Love.

Yeah, but if this show ended and it wasn't that, like, it was some bullshit, what do you think would be happening out there?

Yeah, they could get back over.

But you said it's like a holiday.

It would be a holiday, for sure.

Niggas will take off work to celebrate.

Twitter,

yo, we throwing something on the grill.

What?

You're like, all right, I got it.

Next year, let's review this again.

Another one bites the dust.

That's just good for a year.

And just for the record,

I've noticed a few things changing in the landscape, and I did not play it.

I know what you're talking about.

Oh, wait.

What's he talking about?

What are you talking about?

I might have missed it.

I didn't play it, so I won't say it.

Okay, flip, say it.

I don't know what the hell y'all talking about.

So keep your ear to the fucking pod street.

I guess that's a lot of shit.

Look a little shaky.

Oh, yeah.

A lot of niggas making a lot of changes.

They're downgrading.

They're trying to do some shit.

They're trying to do something for their crib.

Hey.

They got the little light.

You know the light?

The ring light?

Yeah.

The shit the bitches be using.

I used to use that.

Stop.

Me too.

Don't do that.

Those are good lights.

I got a lot of lights.

Those are good lights.

I got a 600D nigga down.

I was the best buy every month buying them shits, nigga.

Yeah, I'm just saying, but niggas be downgrading crazy.

They don't try to hide it.

Take the shades off.

We can see through your glasses the ring light, nigga.

Don't try to be close.

Oh, shit.

Man, what's up, man?

What was your weekend like?

I was actually close to Philly, I think.

What?

Where were you?

Clementine, New Jersey.

You just don't learn.

What are you out there with?

Reed dollars?

Come back.

Some young foot niggas?

I was working.

Woo-hoo!

I was what?

Why are you all at me?

Because she, what you doing in that direction, nigga?

You don't have no.

Nigga, that's close, what?

Close to Camden?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I was close to Camden.

Mm-hmm.

Yep.

Yeah.

Oh, you try to go for the hood nigga now.

I got it.

Fuck it.

You need somebody to fuck niggas up when they try to get rid of you.

I do.

Actually.

We got the Camden niggas.

Man, I saw that post you made, too, in your stories.

What was it?

Which part?

Some shit with a nigga for life.

I don't know.

They sent it to my DM.

I said, oh, here she goes.

She back at it.

Nigga, birthday, back in I'm better.

Right.

Show them.

What was going on in Clementine, New Jersey?

Back in the day, it used to be Clemington Park.

You was Muhammad Ali and them peoples.

No, I was, I did like a little kind of pop-up, Hot and Bothered, and I interviewed Da Vinci from All-American and BMF.

Oh, okay.

And then I went to go watch a youth league basketball tournament.

It was kind of all combined.

She was with a nigga.

That's a joke out of you bracket.

She was out there with Birdie.

Chilling with them, girl.

It was part of the whole thing.

So he gave you a package.

Yo, hey, yo, listen.

If I do this for you, you got to pull up.

You don't learn.

What?

No.

You don't learn, brother.

It was.

You don't learn.

It was work.

Mel.

What?

If you want to interview a nigga and he adds extra things to it besides the interview, he didn't add anything.

So why did he go hide you in the bag?

Both of us were

hired to be there.

Tell us about the AAU game, nigga.

What's the kid name that scored the most points?

Oh, I don't know.

Exactly.

Who was playing?

It was, it's a youth league.

So

I was there supporting the kids.

Right.

I was there supporting the YA athletics.

That was what I was there supporting.

Salute.

That's great.

And y'all little joke, this ain't about to just be an ad for anything she wants to say right now.

We're rocking right back.

They're asking for details.

They're asking for details.

Oh, my lord.

But yeah, that was it.

That was Saturday.

You be setting me up with that to get your ads off.

Because you say things that you know I'm on it.

I'm on you when it comes to you doing activities that's out the norm.

And then I get it off.

I had no idea when you're going to go off.

Puppet Master Tree is

getting a little better.

Thank you, Joe, for reminding me.

Welcome back, Mal.

We will not hyper-focus on

the out-of-work activities.

Well, uh-huh.

It was Saturday.

It was okay.

It was okay.

And then Sunday was raining.

Oh, wait, we need to talk about that.

When you book some pod shit on a Saturday, hey, hey,

hey, when you book some pod shit, that's one o'clock.

Two o'clock, this shit get moving afterwards.

Hey, where you at after that?

Yo, yo.

I wonder what shit I would be getting off out there if I was single right now.

And then dinner.

Bullshit.

In the city.

Y'all ever think about that?

Nobody's ever going to be single.

But do you ever think about what type of shit you would be on in the event that you were when you're in the shower?

Just absolutely.

It makes me glad that I got married.

Yes,

it all made a lot of sense.

I would say, if you guys would be thinking that you guys would be outside running the streets, I just, I don't know.

I do not know.

It would be a short run.

Yeah, it would be a dangerous run.

A jog.

It'd be like temple run.

Yeah.

To the fucking corner store and back.

Yeah.

you could be like, she's trying to treat niggas.

I'm not.

I'm overlooking that.

Y'all don't want to be in these streets

because it's a raging dumpster fire.

That's hate, and that's disgusting.

If niggas was running the streets.

But in different times, let me explain to you.

You over there in the hoods and shit.

I'm going to fall for it.

I'm sorry.

I'm going to fall for it.

I'm going to explain something to you.

Okay, go ahead.

It's not a raging dumpster fire because if niggas was running the streets, they ain't really looking for nothing serious anyway.

We would be the dumpster fire.

We would be the dumpster fire.

We would be dumpster dumping.

We're lighting that shit up.

Our Our ladies definitely have saved us from ourselves.

We would be on the ball.

Real pyros, real quick pyros.

Or there's a new breed of girl in town that you just might not be ready for.

I'm down with that too.

I'm cool with that.

Open to that pyramid.

Some new hybrid bitches.

Yeah, nah.

The mixed one.

Yeah, I'm cool.

They got a little bit of hood, a little bit of class, and all that shit.

And they be outside.

I'm a weapon X chip.

I agree with Joe.

Okay.

Well, good thing that you guys don't have to find out.

Somebody dropped me the other day.

Someone dropped me the other day Friday, too, and I was out.

I'm going to just spit it out there because it's funny.

Your girl knows about it?

Yeah, I told her.

Okay, cool.

Woo.

Somebody hit me like,

got nervous.

She don't play.

Hey, big dog.

And I'm not quoting.

But hey, big dog,

they always try to be with this one.

Hey, big dog,

I need an...

I started my new business and

I need an investor.

I'd be bored.

If you don't know, if it's your first time listening,

I'll stay on the phone with a prank.

You do that.

I'll text back a scammer if I ain't got nothing better to do.

You've definitely done that.

So I said, all right, well,

I'm listening.

And she said, I need an investor.

And that's all, all right.

What, um, how much?

What genre?

Yeah, what was the business?

Did she have a business?

No, no, I'm more curious about

what her background was.

Was this a woman of the entertainment lifestyle?

Was this a lady of the night?

I wouldn't know.

I don't have enough of a rapport to know

about this person.

This is just somebody that's on the internet.

Oh, God.

Got it.

Got it.

Okay.

Damn.

Anyway, she signed an investor.

I said, all right.

How much?

Before you got to what business it was, you asked how much.

Because this is just entertainment for me.

I'm not really trying to invest.

She doesn't have a plan to invest.

Yeah.

But anyway, she said, guess

500, 50,000.

500.

250,000.

First off, why are you telling me to get?

Come on.

She's trying to see what you're willing to spend.

I'm just trying to get a guy.

No, he asked me.

No, I'm asking y'all to guess.

I'm asking y'all to guess.

I'm asking y'all to guess.

200.

Half a million.

I have a money.

Half a million.

Buck 50.

Buck 50.

I'm at a half.

Buck 50K.

Yeah.

150,000.

Yeah.

Half a million.

I've got 50,000.

50,000.

250.

250K.

Three grand.

She opened an eliminated stand.

She heard about him in the street.

Yo, she heard about you in the street.

Yeah, that's what that was.

She knew that shit was going on.

That's what that was.

She knew.

She's trying to have a nigga.

That nigga easy.

He might have sent it, too.

Might have.

Right.

She heard about it.

Oh, this year cleaning it up because you're just sent $2,500 inflation built in.

I see what you're doing.

No, I didn't send it.

You sure?

No, I didn't send it.

You're not sure?

You sure you didn't intend to do it?

No, I didn't tend it.

Okay, got it.

Anyway, I said,

girl, you don't need an investor.

You need a life.

You need a job.

You need a hug.

She said, well, what do I need?

I said,

three K.

Holy shit.

Good box.

But anyway, I only bring it up to say.

When this message happened?

What time of the day?

Recently.

No, what time of the day.

I think it's a day.

No, no, no.

I just meant what day.

You know how they get around the end of the month.

Oh, that's true, too.

I just lost it.

Hold on.

No, the first of the month.

An investor for rent.

An investor for rent is hilarious.

That's the investment.

It's an investment in me.

Yes.

If you need 3K to get your business started, then.

You got the wrong business.

You got to lemonade stuff.

I don't have to.

Selling pencils?

And getting your business started.

No, she just needs the ring lights and the toys.

Oh.

There you go.

And let me just take it off this young lady for a minute.

Niggas don't never have that, and we got to start this part.

Niggas don't never have that conversation.

Like when you're in a relationship with somebody or got a relationship with somebody and you help her with the business, you don't never state the terms, right?

No, no.

Don't corny to do?

Yes, I think so.

Okay.

But I think if it's the other way around,

but women state corny.

Women state the terms, though.

That can't be corny.

I see women terms.

If I give you 100 grand to start your nail salon, your nail salon get to rocking in year three, bringing in 600 grand a year.

I'm i'm not supposed to oh okay

what's the relationship i was about to say what kind of relationship this with your lady

uh

does it matter yes yes

tell me more i don't know if it does don't i don't think it does either what do you mean i don't think it doesn't if you're in a relationship and you invest in your girl you you investing in y'all you're not investing in her you investing in y'all

that ain't necessarily true

that's not true that's not necessarily true that's just your girlfriend then that's a whole different conversation.

Your wife is different.

Yeah.

If it's a relationship that's going to end, then you need some terms.

But if it's your lady, you end up who you think it's going to be.

No, no, no, no.

No, no, but I'm saying if you're dating somebody that you know ain't it,

I'm writing some terms.

I'm not investing.

Me either, but if I do, I'm writing the terms out.

I might do it with my wife if she wanted to do something.

Exactly.

But, Mark, even if you know it's it, a lot of, we see a situation where, nigga, you in a situation, you get a beauty salon and nigga, you on the outs.

It ain't nothing wrong with terms.

It happens.

I tell people, get terms.

You want terms.

Yeah, I don't know if how.

I've seen that shit in Hall of Time.

Dog,

time out, time out, time out.

Because now you're fronting.

Time out.

Because I had a situation where a nigga wanted to borrow some money from me, and I told a nigga to put me in the deed of his house, and you castrated me for it.

I remember.

You castrated me for it.

But I think he just.

So you, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

So you, the person that you lay with, that you have raw sex.

Let me finish, please.

The person that you lay with, that you have raw sex with,

you'll write some terms for them, but your man or somebody else that want to to borrow some money 100 grand it was i think he was i think it was put right terms antoine you are misrepresenting what my point was in that earlier conversation so let me tell it to you the first premise was your man was in a buying and needed a hundred grand your friend was in a buying and needed a hundred grand okay that's a friend in a buying i'm talking business i'm not talking about somebody you love being in a hard spot if if any one of my friends in a hard spot they could come to me and get the money no questions asked if you come to me and say i need a hundred grand for my business proposal proposal, I'm gonna do the same thing that the bank do and ask about the fucking business and state my terms.

That's not the same at all.

It's not the same at all.

Let's search part.

You know what I'm saying?

I know

it's a little bit of a crazy thing because it's crazy.

I kind of think it is.

I think we should start.

I think we should start and get back to the business.

Because it's the same level of risk.

I kind of see where you're at, though.

Y'all got it.

Well, listen, be clear, there's no right or wrong here.

It's just what you would do.

The situation.

I see your point.

I see the difference.

There is a difference, but I think y'all were wrong to follow him about about that.

Because at the time, his point was, because I heard that when it was like, look, it's relation to how much money you have.

I can't afford to just give somebody 100 grand

because if they don't ever pay it back, I'm fucked up.

To me, being on a deed is something like that.

That guy wasn't included in the premise.

The guy that can't afford to do it wasn't in the conversation.

This was somebody.

Person can't afford to lose it.

Okay.

Like, you might, you see what I'm saying?

You've got it.

But, like, I can't afford to get it.

I'm going to feel it.

I'm going to feel it if I don't get it.

Because y'all were saying you can afford that.

And he was saying the $100 to me might be like a million to you or to whatever the thing.

You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, like if somebody borrowed, if somebody asked me right now for you.

If you stay in terms, don't change that then.

But that's the security thing instead, but being on the deed is the change.

Wait, that's why I'm staying in terms of the budget.

That's why I'm going to be on your deed.

That's the security.

All of that's fine and dandy.

But if a nigga take that $100,000 and go blow it, then you're in the same boat.

So you sell your house?

No, you're not.

How not so?

Because the collateral that you put up is my recourse.

Right.

The house.

The house.

Him being on a deed.

You go blow that money.

I i still can go with a house an asset about his man's

example he was giving

he was saying before he remember he said i i will put i will give you the money but i put my name on your deed of your house and y'all were killing collateral as collateral that's some example that fits what he's saying in that i agree and that what i'm saying the person that's your friend don't have a house you don't have

the person had a house the scenario that we were talking about that happened on this show the person had a house and i said i needed my name to be on the deed and you said what?

What?

You put your name?

I don't recall it that way.

And in that, in that, I would agree.

I don't remember that.

I'd have to go listen to it.

But in that, all right, that would be your terms.

I'm talking about a nigga that's your man is just coming to you to need some money.

He don't have nothing.

That's probably why he's coming to you for some money.

But think about it.

I'm not stating terms to that person that's in a time of need.

Are you going to ask when you're going to get it back?

No.

You know,

what if it's a million dollars?

That's me.

But what if it's a million dollars?

If that's a million dollars, that's out of my tax bracket.

I don't have an an ancillary million dollars to loan someone.

I'm not in that.

And

there's a number where you can afford to give it, but you can't afford to eat it if you never get it back.

And I think that's what the terms are for.

Just like with me, for me, it's the same thing with the business.

If it's my wife, I'm not, first of all, ain't no dude giving his wife no terms or no money to give it.

If they say that they're lying,

that's what they just said.

I don't believe it.

But if it's somebody other than my wife, yeah, you're getting some terms because I'm worried about what happens if it blows up or what happens if it don't work.

Either way, if it blows up and you leave me or if it don't work, I can't afford to eat $100.

Yo, I kind of don't even care if it blows up.

I just want my money back.

If I loaned you $100,000 and you make $5 million off of that.

You don't want none of it?

I don't necessarily have to get that.

If it's a stranger, yeah, but if it's somebody that I fuck with, I just want my money back.

Take my money back.

Take the word wife out of it, and does your stance change?

If it's a woman that I'm just dealing with and fuck with, yeah, it don't change.

Wait, what?

It all comes you said take white you mean like if it's like my girlfriend like long-term girlfriend you mean

yeah it don't change for me it don't change it don't change for me don't change for it don't change for me i feel a lot more courageous asking for them terms but i don't know if i would

but i don't know if i would do it all right let me ask let me ask you before let me ask you so what's your stance on like putting it putting your if your other significant other wanted to

go to school or something

that's a good question what's your stance on that that's different to me no why not different

still an investment.

You're investing in them.

You're putting them through medical school.

You're investing in them.

Now they go and become a doctor.

Uh-huh.

And they're making whatever much a year.

Uh-huh.

But they leave you.

Yep.

It's the same thing.

It's the same exact thing.

I don't look at it the same way.

I don't agree with it.

Okay.

I don't look at it the same way.

It's the same.

It's not to me.

But

you're investing in their business the exact same thing.

Sort of, but it's not the same.

It's not the same.

I don't look at it the same either.

Yeah.

Okay.

Man, why are you fucking bitches that want?

ambition?

How old is he, bro?

She wants to read.

How old is he?

I'm just saying, bro.

Niggas go back to school.

You said, why is it fucking with the school?

Wait, and go to school.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Timeless.

Wait,

we're in our 40s, and she says, I want to go back to school, pay for my school.

Yes.

That's what you're saying.

Yeah.

Got it.

Got it.

Okay.

I understand now.

Scared me.

Oh, no.

She ain't coming home from the prom, like,

you know what I want to do.

That's crazy.

I got to make

that's extreme y'all that's gotta extra

put your name at child support stay with your woman because the moment you say bitch well you too a computer start typing your name at the primary court

fuck around there and leave jump up grab some shit up and leave in three days the mailman come say you owe 200,000 motherfucking dollars.

I wouldn't give a fuck what it is.

You come home, find another man in your bed.

If you got it downstairs, go on down there and sleep on the couch.

If you see her in the morning, just tell a bitch, I owe you one.

If you want to be single today,

you go out here today talking about, well, I want something new.

Trust me, it's some new shit out here.

It's some shit out here so new that doctors are scared.

It ain't shit for a doctor to come in his office and look at a motherfucker and say,

I don't even fuck with that kind of shit.

I don't even know

who told you to come here.

You can keep that chair, motherfucker.

You go ahead and hold it.

Yo,

he's funny as shit.

Send that to me.

Send that, send that, send that, gang.

Oh, shit.

Tony Brown, Tony Brown, what's his name?

Mike, check, mic, check, mic, check.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Since I met you, I've become to feel so.

I see how you can confuse this for Al Green.

The drone.

Very Al Jackson.

Yeah.

It might be Al Jackson.

This song sounds like it was done with Al Green in the studio.

So Al Jackson drove like riding that Tom as a snare.

It was very Al Jackson.

Mike Check, Mike Check, one, two, one, two.

So blessed to be here today.

So happy to be here today with all of y'all out there.

30 and up, 40 and up out there.

Feeling good, feeling great.

Shout out to the first and last time listeners.

Shout out to wherever you might be listening from out there.

Everybody's traveling, everybody on vacation right now.

Everybody, get ready for the summertime out there.

It is our

cooking breakfast right here, let's go.

There's nowhere to go.

Oh no,

you made your choice.

Don't wait for the ladies, don't wait for the lady.

Hold the key, but baby,

when you call me, I'll be there.

Whenever you want me,

I'll be there.

Whenever you need me,

I'll be there.

Excuse me, sir.

I'm sorry I have to wake you.

Are you a doctor?

What episode is this?

823.

Let's get Melon flip their drops.

No.

No, man.

Stop looking at his good.

Stop.

Why?

Nah, man.

You highlight that too much, man.

I want to.

Let my man continue doing what he's doing.

We fine.

Well, I don't know about her.

I'm fine over here, man.

I'm okay.

Put it to bed.

I put it to rest.

I'm already.

Mel, Mel.

Sorry.

New flip.

Hey, flip.

Flip.

No, no, no, no.

No.

It's both of them.

Y'all are male.

No, no, no, we're not.

Y'all are ten.

So then give me the same shit.

Give me the

what's the same shit you talk about?

You know what I'm talking about.

They don't.

And we're on the show.

I can't say that.

Oh, then we can't do nobody.

Welcome to episode 82 of the Joe Button Podcast.

Thank you very much.

Hey.

Could it be a holiday love?

Welcome to episode 823 of the Joe Button Podcast.

I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, happy to be be here, fully dressed.

Host Joe Button here with a few really amazing

people

to my right.

The amazing Melissa Ford is in the building.

Hootie hooi!

To her right, Queens get the money, Queens Flip is in the building.

Next to him, King Wawa, huh?

You know the vibes.

Library ish is here.

Ish is in the building.

Looking skinny.

What are you gonna talk about your grandpa, nigga?

Nigga, I'm happy, nigga.

Looking skinny.

Skinny man.

Look at his age.

Them niggas just walk around with him.

Get the new D Browns.

Nigga, ready for Bet Gala.

Get ready for BT Gala.

How you doing it, man?

Look at fans and I tell them how you finally shutting the weight.

How you finally shut the weight.

What was the weight we're saying?

I ain't eating candy.

I ain't eating sweets.

It's a simple bit.

Clap, clap.

You lost a lot of weight fast.

I just showed you the other day, nigga, you was looking crazy.

You was just big.

You were just heavy, nigga.

Don't blame it on your foot neither.

You were still heavy on your foot.

I didn't lose a lot of weight.

Please stop with your narrative, Nancy.

You've narrowed down.

And there's nothing wrong with it.

I didn't say it was.

I lost like 10 pounds.

I didn't lose it.

Why you put your square voice on?

I'm just saying you look good.

Thank you.

What waste?

I'm saying you look snatched.

Yeah,

ready for Portugal.

Where you going again?

Going somewhere.

Oh, you got the shit that what's his name, God?

You look nice.

I don't even know what you're talking about, Aki.

All right, man.

But it's cool.

Next to ish, Mr.

Take It Further himself.

Hell yo.

The freeziest of them all, Big Freeze in the building.

Next to Freeze, Dr.

Mark Lamont Hill in the building.

What was your cold name?

Miz.

Miz.

Miz.

Big Miz.

What's the big miss?

This miz.

Respect my man.

My bad.

Two of the fox.

I wasn't mad at that.

I think that's good.

Yeah, I thought bad.

That's a bad thing.

You ain't letting that go.

That is never.

I'm never letting that go either.

Yeah, but yeah.

He feels like it's more to uncover there.

No, there is.

It's 100% more to uncover market.

No, I'm on it now.

You done built a pyramid and was in a cult before CNN.

Nah,

buddy.

Oh, you need to know more.

Yeah.

I tried to go find some docs.

There's nothing much to do.

100% look at him.

I'll tell you more.

I told you, June 2nd.

June 2nd, I'll tell you.

June 1st, June 2nd.

When June 2nd.

I like to pace these things out month to month.

That's all.

Oh, right.

Right.

Oh.

Hell no, deadass, man.

I'm going to fight.

Who moves a pyramid story?

I'll be backpocket.

I built a pyramid.

Get the fuck off.

That was insane.

And try to just do it like casually.

Like, oh, yeah, I built a pyramid.

Because I had told this story before, but

only Flip was listening.

Nah, you didn't tell the shit up here.

Not up here, no.

You did a shit on spaces or something.

Flip.

did I say it right there?

You did.

You did.

Spaces.

Flip and Imani heard it.

Spaces.

That don't beat the allegations yet, but we were sitting right there.

But it's all good.

It's all good.

It's all good.

Was there anything you want to say to the new audience that we've acquired in the last few weeks?

Your Oxford Academy,

your educators, and Kev on stage?

I got nothing.

I got nothing.

Anything you want to say to them?

Because they don't seem to be leaving either.

I got nothing.

All right.

I got nothing.

Big Parks is in the building.

What's Bobby?

Keep by Omira.

Poe is in the building.

Corey's here.

Ian here.

Keeb is here.

Erickson is here.

There's too many people here to name.

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And before we go any further.

Oh,

clear out.

Boy, it was a lot of chit-chat from the experts,

the analysts,

the retired NBA players.

Oh, okay, here we go.

I got to do a part.

Yeah, you got to go.

I was going to call Jared Jack still

just to see what you pissed them niggas is up to.

But,

yeah, everybody on ESPN and FS1 and anybody with a microphone, the conversation seemed to be:

what had the greater odds?

The Knicks getting swept

or this going to six?

I thought that was offensive.

I did.

Brian Winhurst,

he said the Nick Shahole, and I quote, a ticker-take parade, if this indeed gets to six games.

Y'all were talking like the Celtics were the 96 Bulls,

the 2017 Kevin Durant Warriors, whatever year that was.

Y'all was talking like these was just, and it is a great team,

really expensive team.

Can't wait for them to break up after this year.

Wow.

It's awesome.

But all we did

is go into your building,

get down by 20.

I turned the game off.

I was tight.

I was tight when I went on Twitter the other night.

Let y'all take every three in the world.

Let y'all grab every long offensive rebound to clang off the front of the rim.

Let y'all get us in foul trouble.

Let y'all get Carl Anthony.

I'm not even going to call him that because he was straight cat for most of the game.

The best ability is availability, and he wasn't even on the floor.

We let y'all do all of that only to come back

and steal game one.

And still, the next day, they don't say, hey, go Knicks for stealing game one.

They say, the Celtics gave it to you.

They did.

You disagree?

Thanks.

So?

Thanks.

Thanks.

I mean, mean, the win is a win.

You can't give me something if I don't extend my hand out.

But I don't take it.

I got to do my job and you're giving me something.

Yes.

They blew it.

And he literally took it.

The Celtics blew it.

Yeah.

Also, Jalen Brunson is the NBA's clutch player of the year for a reason.

So in the event that this game gets close in the fourth quarter,

we have some.

Yeah.

And say what you want.

Them Celtic niggas is injured and dinged up.

Get these old ass niggas the fuck out of the building.

That's it.

Now I'm done talking nice.

I don't want to talk stats no more.

Jalen Brown, James Brown, Antonio Brown, Bobby Brown.

Round up the fucking Browns.

Knicks at six, nigga.

I ain't talking stats no more.

Fuck are you talking about?

You really think the Knicks gonna win this series?

Huh?

You really think the Knicks gonna win this series?

Who knows?

Because you know the next question is gonna be a bet.

Zaire hit me immediately.

Yo, I still got the Celtics.

You want to bet?

I got the Celtics.

No, nigga.

Get off my phone.

Because you know goddamn well the Knicks ain't going to win this series.

I don't know that.

What I saw last night was a dinged up,

a dinged up Boston.

Porzingas left early.

Drew Holiday, for as great of a defender as he was on Jalen Brunson, he wasn't himself.

He wasn't himself.

Jason Tatum, I think a large reason for the Celtics making a jump this year is his consistency in his superstar role.

If he's going to go back to being inconsistent like last night,

and if Jalen Brown and them niggas are going to act like it's just a cakewalk or read your own press clippings, then yeah, nigga, Nick's in six.

Nick's in six.

I think you

talking about it.

I think you're overthinking it.

I think the Celtics played the worst game they could possibly play.

So did the Knicks.

That's the worst coach in the ball.

So did the Knicks.

So did the Knicks.

And you still need overtime to win.

I think Celtics.

We didn't need overtime to win.

That little layup at the end of the game is a make 99% of the time.

Stop it.

Don't get stupid.

That's not.

Don't get dumb.

If he made what he missed.

Well, yeah, if the Celtics made the threes that they, I mean, all I'm saying is the Celtics are a better team.

I also don't say you need overtime to win if you come back from however much they were 20.

I don't want to hear.

I just say

that.

I just say

it's hard to match again, is all I'm saying.

I don't think the Celtics are going to play that bad again.

And I don't think y'all have the talent to beat them in six or seven games.

Hey, hey, buddy, it's the Celtics that are in a must-win situation right now.

This talk doesn't align with that.

Here's another piece of it.

Are you going to the Knicks games?

Game three.

Oh, yeah.

I thought it was a good thing.

You should say all that.

Celtics and 5-4-6 now in the back.

You ain't won a game.

Y'all couldn't be Rice High School right now.

But you fucking win.

Don't do that to Rice, please.

Man, nah, I don't want to hear all that shit.

I don't want to hear all that shit right now.

We're up 1-0.

Must-win for the Celtics.

Hey, and that building sounded a little nicky last night.

Sounded a little nicky last night.

Yeah, fix your fucking faces.

We in New York.

What's up?

I'm down, nigga.

What's up?

I'm with you.

We won.

Fuck is wrong with you niggas?

Keep that same energy at game four, game five when y'all down three to one.

He won't.

And when they go out four to one, he's gonna be like, yo,

we ain't even look forward to winning.

I said in the beginning that we wasn't gonna win.

We gotta do somebody building, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

That's gonna be a good thing.

Exactly what he's gonna say.

Pussy ass boy.

That's exactly what's gonna come.

What them niggas been a pussy ass boy?

Pussy have a boy.

They don't say pussy.

Puss that boy?

Yeah, we don't want to hear none of that shit.

One-nothing.

Indeed.

You dropped the ball.

Later, done.

That's it.

You're done.

That's it.

I ain't even going to DM Tatum.

We talked before the game.

Fuck that, nigga.

Man.

Don't do that, though.

You don't do that.

No,

please do it.

No, no.

Talk shit.

Talk crazy to him.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

You got to fix that.

Yo, dog.

Leave that one alone.

I blew my prospects back yesterday.

Don't talk crazy shit again.

Fuck off.

Brunson.

There's nothing much to say.

Maybe lose while spanking.

Go, Knicks.

What a win.

Feels great to be up.

1-0 with the Celtics in a must-win situation.

The Knicks up 2-0 next game.

2-0 next game.

Since they won't be soft.

I felt like such a big one.

Since they won't be soft about it.

I turned on that game, saw the score, and I was like, fuck, I guess we'll watch the Met Gala.

Yeah.

That's a mistake.

Let me go look at the gowns.

Put the game on the phone.

Congratulations to the Knicks.

I'm certain that we'll talk about this a little later on.

Oh, for sure.

Where would you guys like to begin?

We can start with the Mega Life.

I see you were in your Fashionista bag last night.

I didn't know I was going to be in my Fashionista bag.

I felt bad for you because I was like, I wish Sade was here because that was like my favorite shit in the world, is sitting around with my girl, who's the nicest human being I think I've ever met in my life, and just shitting on people for three straight hours.

Even though a lot of people were super fly, but the people that weren't,

they were getting it.

Yeah, I have to say, man.

Well, actually, I won't start.

Did anybody else see some of the outfits?

Some of the red carpet?

We saw some of the outfits, yes.

79% of white people looked a mess.

Yeah, it seemed like they didn't really get what the theme was.

They thought that

the theme was super fine.

Dandyism.

Dandyism, but the theme, it was called.

Black, tailored, fly shit.

Yeah.

An ode to suits and ties and just

tailorism.

gotcha black

fly shit yeah so I think that when they heard super fine you know

you know black tailoring they just black they thought yeah

should be black

and it's like

no that's not what they meant yeah it was bad yeah 79% of white people looked an absolute mess.

You're some of the ones that look the worst.

So, well, first, it was co-chaired.

It had four co-chairs.

It was ASAP Rocky, Lewis Hamilton, Coleman Domingo, and Pharrell.

And all four of them looked incredible in all their various different ways.

Like Coleman Domingo's first outfit was like a nod to.

Lewis Hamilton shit was fire.

It was.

Are we not going to talk about people that we thought didn't nail it?

Let's absolutely shit off them.

Oh, we got to.

A thousand percent.

We'll shit off.

Pharrell didn't nail it.

Pharrell didn't nail it.

I didn't like the people that Pharrell dressed.

Like Douchi, I love Dochi.

I didn't like the way.

I thought Louis had an amazing night, so I'm not shitting on them.

I'm just talking about Pharrell specifically with the 10,000 Pearl, 20,000 Pearl Blazer.

Super fly.

I just don't think it did what it needed to do in pictures.

It was very calm in pictures, and I just...

Oh, I see.

I'm looking at it now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like it.

I like it too.

Actually, I like it for you.

Actually, I like it.

The thing is, I think that it translated, it probably translated a lot better in person.

Like, he's like the creative ambassador for Louis Vuitton.

So Zendaya, who was one of the best dressed on that carpet.

Oh, I disagree.

What?

She's usually way better dressed than she was last night.

That was literally the theme.

That was it.

You know, she had like a Louis Vuitton tailored zoot suit.

That shit was fucking incredible.

But there's a difference, I think, between nailing the theme and looking like spectacular.

And she looked great.

Like, she always looks great.

I guess agree to disagree.

I thought she looked spectacular.

I thought she nailed the theme and looked spectacular, Zendaya.

Yes, yes.

Diana Ross is another one that shut down the carpet.

This massive train, and it had the names of her children and grandchildren embroidered on it.

Smoking.

Brianna, of course, shut down the carpet soft launching baby number three

in a Mark Jacobs outfit, and just she killed it as well.

Marco Jacobs had a good night.

I mean, Mark Jacobs had a real good night, too.

He really did.

What did you think of the Corman Domingo?

Yeah.

He wore several, several, though.

Okay, all right.

So the first one was a nod to Andre Leontale.

The big, you know, the electric blue.

Yeah, the

purple, blue, whatever color that was, the shawl.

Okay.

The long over.

Yeah, with the ornate down.

And I want to say that that was Valentino.

Oh.

But that first look was Valentino.

Okay.

And that second look, you didn't ask me?

He killed both those looks.

The second look was Valentino, too.

The great, the great.

You're talking about the gray with the J.

Yeah.

I thought that was the flyest shit.

The black and white shit was flying.

Yes, that was absolutely fierce.

That was Valentino.

That shit looked crazy.

I think that also, I think that everybody that did the two-look thing, crushed.

Like

Domingo,

Damson

Idris, when he came out in the race cars, shit was fire.

Under it,

the shit underneath it was.

At first, I was like, what is this bullshit?

And then once he took the shit off, that suit underneath it.

Damn, what did he say?

Damn, no, I got to find out who that was.

Tessa Thompson was another actress that really killed it.

She smoked.

She looked great.

She looked incredible.

And I really liked Dochi's outfit.

Cardi.

cardio

yes carrie washington i like i love carrie washington um uh janelle monet but she you know

super simple but i liked it yeah

who was usher wearing uh pull uh ruffler ruffler which is probably

i thought burberry had uh i thought burberry had one of the best nights uh i'm not gonna let y'all just smooth over cardi like that That was a Burberry look.

Amazing.

Cardi looked incredible.

If I'm not mistaken, her manicure took like two fucking days.

God damn.

Yeah.

Like, I mean, it's at least six figures per outfit.

Like,

that's just the whole production for each person that goes there.

Easily.

You know?

Jodi Turner Smith was my look of the night.

She was Burberry also.

She looked great.

Burger Nation.

Yeah.

Jodi Turner Smith and Tiana Taylor.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, Tiana.

That's what we were watching was the Vogue stream, which was Tiana, and I can't remember the SNL actress's name, and Lala.

And it was great.

Tiana Taylor is a fucking

natural at this shit.

She is.

She was dressed by Ruth Carter, exactly, who's like an Oscar-winning costume designer.

Exactly.

Like from Black Panther and a myriad of other films.

But Tiana Taylor, I love the outfit.

Tiana Taylor probably has to get outfit of the night for me because of the duality, right?

Like with the theme being fly men suit tailoring and all that.

She did that to a T,

but the heel was feminine.

I want to say that was Mark Jacobs.

The do-rag under the fucking, under the hat, the layers, the texture.

She absolutely smoked it.

I expected nothing less from Tiana Taylor.

And again, a great host.

Big Harlem.

Great, great hostess.

Big Harlem.

Big T.

Who else?

I want to talk about Lewis Hamilton.

Lewis Hamilton.

Lewis Hamilton was in Wells Bonner.

Wells Bonner.

That look, that clean aesthetic, that hat.

That hat.

That hat.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, Park's your boy, Bad Bunny.

He looked crazy.

Oh, he went crazy.

He smoked.

He was incredible.

He went crazy.

That hat.

I want to say that he was Prada.

I guess it was Prada, I believe.

I want to say that was Prada.

Bad Bunny looked amazing.

That

custom hat that they put on him.

Which was like a traditional Puerto Rican hat thing.

Kind of goes to the theme with the album he's doing and the tour he's doing.

And the bag smoked.

A lot of people I thought went wrong in their choice of bag.

I don't recall who it was, but somebody had a briefcase of roses.

I didn't think that was necessary.

Some of the bags were just off, but that Bad Bunny bag.

Oh.

Was that a bag on the back of Andre 3000 shaped like a piano?

Yeah, I thought we're going to hold that one off to the end.

I just, I was

wondering if that was a bad them for later.

Okay, we'll save that for later.

But yeah,

a lot of the outfits that we're describing, they were like, it was really sensational and they really stayed on theme.

And it was such,

it's a dramatic turn from the people who didn't stay on.

I think the men were smoking the women's boots a little bit.

I would agree with you.

I would agree with you.

Which I guess the theme lends it, lends to it, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, like the whole, you know, dandy choir, that was

really

interesting, you know.

I haven't really still settled on how I felt about it.

A dandy choir?

Yeah, you didn't see the choir of black men singing?

Yeah.

Yeah.

What do you mean you don't know how you felt about it?

I guess it was kind of,

it was in theme, but then it also kind of,

I don't know, it almost had like a,

I don't know.

Like a, like a,

like a, I don't know.

Mel.

Yeah.

What?

What?

No, I'm just, I'm trying to find the words.

I'll find the words, but it just had this like kind of

haunting kind of quality to it.

I don't know if that's the right word, but I think so.

It looked jack-and-jillish to me.

All right, neither one of y'all will beat the allegations.

That was scary to you, Mel?

Y'all.

No.

Y'all.

To keep me from getting to you, babe.

Y'all.

What?

Just be aware.

No, I'm not saying anything bad about it.

I thought that they thought it was great, and I loved the uniformity of their outfits.

I loved all of it, but it just kind of had a haunting quality.

And I don't know if it's because I'm thinking about the history of dandyism, like the original, like the history as far back as it goes, that that was what they were trying to convey, or maybe that's just something I was picking up on.

What is the history of dandyism?

So if I'm not mistaken,

the history of dandyism, the original, like the origin point is like slave masters were bored as fuck and liked to dress up their slaves in their clothes.

I don't know.

I can't comment on it.

Okay, somebody can correct me, but if I'm not mistaken, this is something that I read somewhere.

Black dandyism sort of,

yeah, that's not wrong.

I mean, dandyism goes before slavery in a certain way, and the stylized figure, but the black dandy is like an interesting person because of how he got stylized during slavery but also after like when black people could buy their own clothes yes we got flying shit yes to me that's the but and it was also reflective of just how much economic um you know security and power we had during after slavery which was which we were robbed of yeah you know black dandyism is a cultural practice in the form of self-expression where black individuals particularly men

use fashion and personal style as a tool for resistance identity negotiation and a challenge in societal norms It's just not about dressing well, but also about using satorical choices to assert agency, reclaim narratives, and push back against negative stereotypes.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Reclaiming the narrative is the origin point, and then the fact that they continue to do it.

My point was it kind of resembles

a little Jack and Jiller.

You know what Jack and Jill is?

Yeah.

Right?

And

I guess maybe it's in line.

You know what Jack and Jill is.

So Jill Jilliat is like,

Jack and Jill is like a wealthy black organization, and they have cotillions and balls and such.

And so that's what I attributed it to.

You know what I'm saying?

As opposed to something haunting.

I looked at it like it was almost an ode to that.

Yeah, that's how I say that.

Maybe I still got sinners on the brain.

Maybe.

Where I'm thinking about

just the historical context of what we watched, you know?

I feel you.

Yeah.

I guess I just still have sinners on the brain.

I mean, that's the beauty of it, right?

It's art and it's up to interpretation.

Yeah, for sure.

And we get to me, it just reminded me all those moments where black people who thought history got fly.

Because a lot of times what happened was after slavery, they were saying, why are these black people spending their money on clothes?

Exactly.

And it was like, well, because before when we were enslaved, we couldn't wear what we wanted, right?

So they're like,

why would they buy these parasols?

That was one of the big things.

Why would they wear parasols?

Because white women were wearing them, and we had to take care of these white women.

And now we can dress ourselves, use our money for our thing.

And we got fired, but we look way fatter than they ever did.

And so when I saw it last night, that's what it reminded me of.

It's like a rebellion against stereotypes.

So, you know, that's what.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And a lot of people, like couples, it was their date night.

So they dressed similarly.

Just real quick, just real quick.

I know.

I see if.

So.

Because we can't make that all that slavery dandyism point and just move on to couples, I don't think.

I understand what you're saying.

For most people, having watched the Met Gala throughout the years,

it's white as shit.

Yeah, I was about to say that, too.

It's another one of those events where,

shit, in years past, it's felt haunting for me looking at how white it is, what some of the old-fashioned houses stood for, and how they parade out black entertainers as if we're dog and pony.

So I'm with you there.

This year, I didn't tend to, I didn't feel like doing the deepest of dives.

It felt great that that shit was ultra black.

Extra black.

It looked great.

Everywhere you turned, beautiful black, glowing,

glistening skin, lathered skin, hair, hairing, the extra pieces.

Niggas was on their coming to America bag on this day.

Everywhere you turn, it was just black people looking beautiful.

The choir,

I thought was a great touch.

I felt like somebody asked a black person, hey, what should we do here to make this extra black?

Go get a fucking choir and have them sing wade in the water.

Listen, we've seen pictures in the past, not a lot, but we've seen pictures of some of the food they have eaten in the Met Gala.

This year was the first year it felt like collard greens was in there.

This year is the very first year where it felt like, oh, shit, them niggas is going to eat turkey wings and fucking just mad black food.

Like, that was great.

Yeah.

People that are, and.

The food was from

Red Rooster?

No, it wasn't it.

Um, Chef Kwame?

Kwame?

I don't know if Chef Kwame.

Chef Kwame, I thought it looked great, too.

I think he was the chef.

I could be wrong about that.

Tiana mentioned that.

Let's go.

So turn it up.

Tiana mentioned that.

That's fine.

So that's what's fly.

Come on, man.

I could be mistaken.

I would have thought Melbourne was in there chefing it up.

Chef Kwame, perfect choice.

Hey, hey, hey.

That's where I was on Saturday.

Sorry, I mean, I said I went to dinner.

I just didn't want to say where I was.

Why?

I mean, you know.

Nah, fuck out of there.

You're talking to the dog, nigga.

You're talking to the dog.

Watch your fucking mouth.

I get what you're saying, but you talking to the dog, nigga.

Listen, okay.

Born on the duck's back.

He was the chef.

Okay, though.

So, come on, man.

Them white people was in there eating flavors they never imagined.

Yeah, man.

Some of y'all never been to Tatiana, amazing restaurant out here.

But some of the flavors and the marriage of them, them white people was having a blast in there with that good food.

Finger licking.

Yeah.

Had to get some baby wipes from out the bathroom.

What is it called?

The wet toilet.

The wet wet.

The wet toilette.

The wet toilette.

Joe.

No, go ahead.

No, go ahead.

I was going to ask you, is that on your bucket list?

What?

Met Gala?

No.

That's not for me.

If they invited, would you go?

Yes.

Who asked me?

Anna Winter.

I was going to ask you guys.

Anna Winter asks you to go to to the Met Gala.

No, I meant like.

Oh, which designer?

What fashion house?

Mark Jacobs.

I don't know.

Oh, no, no.

Rada.

I don't know.

Louis Vuitton.

No.

You have enough of their shit on.

You wouldn't do it anymore.

I don't really have a whole lot of their shit.

Who's the designer that would make you most likely to say yes?

Balenci asked you.

That's what I was.

No?

No.

And I want to shout out Fear of God.

See, that's what made me think of it.

I forgot who that was that I saw rocking the fear of God.

It looked great.

A great fear of God look at the Met Gala.

Yeah.

However, as much as I love Fear God as one of my favorite brands, I'm not certain that I would show up to the Met Gala if Fear God asked me because I'm not showing up in this environment

with this aesthetic.

This aesthetic fits you more than it fits me.

Well, I guess it depends on what the theme would be.

I thought Tom Brown had a night, too, by the way.

He did.

Oh, yeah.

Tom Brown is Janelle Monet.

Tom Brown was...

I would have rescinded my.

I didn't like Janelle Monet's.

Really?

Square Meeks.

But what about the look underneath it?

Better.

I thought she ate.

What's that little

monocle?

Yeah.

That touch.

I thought Savannah James went crazy.

She did.

She went absolutely.

It depends on who asked me.

And

I got an invite to go to some of the Met Gala after parties last night.

It was raining.

Them niggas was going to be there looking as beautiful as could be.

I was going to be there and bullshit,

looking ashy in the corner, no shape up,

no fresh baldy.

Yeah, nah, nah, I'm cool.

I'm cool on that.

My days of being the dusty nigga in the corner in the club.

Those days over.

Yeah.

Well, it was clear that the four

co-chairs, they really let them run the show.

Yeah, that was clear.

So

it was really dope.

It was really dope.

And like I was saying, date night for Swiss and Alicia.

They were

bigs that looked exactly.

The carpet design was fire, too.

Yeah, it was.

Everything about that, the carpet design, I mean,

I like pushes.

I loved it.

Another one.

Louis.

And on brand for him.

Yeah, it looked great.

Yeah.

Push was Louis.

D-Wade and Gabrielle, Prada.

I liked Swiss, and I liked Swiss and Alicia.

Shout out to Swiss with the burgundy durag.

Yeah, nigga, we always repping.

We always repping.

What y'all think about Future?

Cut his hair.

Future, was that Chanel?

Chanel had a big night, too.

Louis.

Louis.

That was Louis.

I did not care for Future's fish.

Louie had a night.

He looked like a night.

Louis, Chanel,

Burberry, Tom Brown.

For me, that was the night.

So who looked bad?

Yeah, y'all doing all that.

I would pay Future.

I would put it in the bag.

There's way too much positivity up here.

I would put Future in that bag.

He looked like he was in a topic.

Oh, I'm looking at Future Dagger.

Yeah.

I was not a fan of

Chappelle Ron's outfit.

She just, it looked like a continuation of what she wore at the Grammys.

Well, basically, what she wears on what she wears.

So

Chappelle Rone.

The girl that cleaned up at the Grammys.

And had that really great speech.

She's mad, colorful, and sequential.

She didn't really look a message.

It just didn't seem like on brand, on theme whatsoever.

It just looked like a continuation of what she consistently wears for her stage performances and stuff like that.

So I just wasn't impressed with her.

If we're talking about people who just didn't do the theme, but maybe looked amazing.

Sidney Sweeney.

I don't know.

She looked great.

She got the big dough eyes and the nice boots and shit like that, little white girl.

Yeah.

Beautiful dress, you know, beautiful gowns, as you know, Aretha Franklin would have said.

But I don't see another white person that just thought,

let's wear black.

Yeah, yeah, that's what Kim Regina did.

She just wore black.

Okay, yeah, that was.

Slow down, no shit.

I didn't like it.

She didn't just wear black.

That was custom chrome hearts.

Fair, fair, fair.

It was a statement in that environment to wear custom chrome hearts.

You like the Parmesan Diego?

Her accessories.

I I love the hat.

I'm not going to say I necessarily love the look because I'm not a big chrome hearts guy, but I love that Kim is always the one to make a statement.

Like Lady Gaga used to do at the fucking, like, I like the celebrity, the make a statement celebrity.

Kim should try something different.

She's one of the different.

I just didn't, yeah, yeah.

She should try something different because she has been doing that silhouette look forever and ever and ever.

It's tired.

That hat was.

It was a nice hat, but not for that.

Like, hey, let's just, let's just throw a fucking fedora on.

No,

creative that look and then ass on display whoa news at fucking 11

Wow groundbreaking, you know I'm saying

the fuck okay

listen She's a beautiful girl with a beautiful body We always fucking see it looking exactly the fucking same she did nothing to wow anybody as far as I'm concerned.

Like it was it was boring basic and and not even do y'all y'all have history?

You did turn it up a notch.

I was like, damn.

Not really.

I didn't like the outfit either, but.

Oh, that's not true.

I can't critique.

Without it being personal.

But do y'all have a history, is all I'm asking.

I wouldn't say that.

Yeah.

That's not enough.

Have you ever met?

Yes.

Have you ever been in the same party?

Yes.

We've been in the same country.

Yes.

Haiti.

Well, you're in the same country now.

Been in the country.

Haiti, nigga.

I remember that.

You both live in America.

What the hell is you talking about?

We're Americans.

She was in in Haiti together with them.

And, you know, are you going to say it?

Go for it and give him cake.

If you want me to say it, are you going to say it?

You want to move on?

You know the T-flip?

I do.

I'm not going to let him say it because he always fucks it up.

So that's what happened.

Kim Kardashian told the lady that invited you there that she wants you to tell him.

Tell the story.

Tell the story.

Okay.

The first time this story was told was on my old podcast, I'm Here for the Food, and I never wanted to say it.

Way more millions listening now.

Let's go.

But it got me.

Oh,

to be a good thing.

No, I'm just saying this is a brand new story to be.

It's true.

That's what I'm talking about.

It's hard to you five people who heard it already.

Oh, no.

What did he say?

It's about 7 million out there now.

You sure you want to reshare it?

Yeah, bro.

You know, I am thinking.

No, give it to us.

Give it to us.

Okay.

This was in 2011, I believe it was 2011, the year after that massive earthquake.

Okay, so humanitarian efforts, a lot of people going over to Haiti.

And

I was invited to go, and I was there with Marcia Dyson.

Marcia.

Shout out to Marcia.

Marcia was like my, you know, like a surrogate mom to me, you know, very protective of me.

And this was

maybe like a few weeks after she had annulled her marriage to, what was that boy's name, Chris?

Right, that 72-minute marriage.

Right.

And so

it's not.

It's just a fact.

It's just a fact.

And so what happens when you...

But that's not a fact.

It was more than 10.

It was 70.

Okay, 72 days.

Days, something like that.

Okay.

Okay, anyways.

So she was catching a lot of like flack for that.

And so what happens is a lot of celebrities go into crisis management during that time.

And so crisis management oftentimes looks like charity and humanitarian missions and shit like that.

So she ended up in Haiti and I ended up in Haiti.

And why were we there?

We were putting on a Christmas party for children from six orphanages.

I also went down because I was working with this company called B Condoms, the only black-owned condom company.

And I brought like.

I'm going to take all that.

Okay, well, it was

the black-owned condoms.

Girl.

Okay, sorry, sorry.

Anyways,

so we met.

Sneak a little add to the nigga.

She didn't speak a hand in the hell.

Because it was part of why I went down there as well.

We got that.

Okay, so we met, and she was cool.

You know, hi, nice to meet you, whatever.

And then her mom went over to Marcia Dyson, and she said,

yeah, Kim's uncomfortable with Melissa being here.

Can you send her home?

And Marcia was like,

that might be your daughter.

No, the fuck she did not.

She was like, that might be your daughter, but that's my daughter.

She's not fucking going anywhere.

They let you stay in Haiti?

He said it like she was Aristide.

I wasn't there for her.

I was there for the children.

They let you stay.

That was why I was there.

Did you go on a plane and just chill for a little bit?

Did you try to act like you wasn't there no more than the four seasons border prince?

Did she go to the show?

She saw a whole lot of soccer that we had.

She seemed to one orphan.

Here's the thing is, I don't necessarily know if that was in fact true.

If that's why,

if she was in fact uncomfortable, but that is what she said to Marcia.

Marcia relayed this story on my podcast.

It was, it was, it was just

what were you wearing?

You don't ask those questions to a lady.

What was she wearing?

Hmm.

What was she wearing?

Oh, no.

No.

It had nothing to do with what we were wearing.

Exactly.

What were you wearing?

Did you have it on?

I had on like a lovely summer dress.

Oh, yeah.

You got it.

Yo, get a girl out of Haiti, please.

We were around dignity.

Hey, go on the pilot for me immediately.

Cabin just pulled right up to where this bitch is standing.

We get her out of the toes.

Oh, yeah, we got to go.

You got to leave Haiti.

Yeah, well.

All the Kardashians let you stay in Haiti.

Whatever.

Whatever.

Was it nice to you after that?

We didn't have any other contact.

Of course,

I reiterate.

So you were blacklisted.

I reiterate.

I was there

for the kids.

That was why I was there.

And to bring, you know.

In a nice dress to put on, you know, to decorate.

Well, no, this was the, there was like multiple things going on.

So we were like at a dinner with dignitaries and shit like that.

Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

Rejogging the memories and shit.

My girl shorts are good.

All right, Mel, this is my question to you, though.

Go, you better get a chance.

In the event that the Kardashians wanted to kick you out of Haiti and then wore a chrome heart dress to the Met Gala, you would be able to say, if that looked great, even though she wanted you nowhere around in Haiti, right?

You're that type of objective.

Yeah, I think that she's had amazing outfits in the past.

Before Haiti.

No, I'm just in general.

Like other Met Gala appearances that she's made, I think she looked great.

This particular outfit, take her out of the outfit, put somebody else in it, I'd have the same criticism.

All right, here's a question for you.

Here's a question for you.

Why do you think

the bitches always say that

about you?

Like, why do you think they'd be wanting to?

Get out of here.

What do you mean?

Why do you think you want to clear you like that, guys?

I don't know.

I mean, like, I.

I mean, listen, let me tell you something.

There's no, there's no.

Hey, Chris.

Get out.

There is no.

Hey.

Hey, Dwayne.

Gabrielle,

don't even start.

Don't even start those narratives.

That's nasty.

I'll take that back.

That's nasty.

But you are extremely nice to meet you.

I am a very nice person.

But let me just make this clear.

I just don't even understand how

another woman could let you know that you have her shook like that.

Like, I could never do that.

Like, the way in the adventures be letting me know I got you shook.

That's weird.

Oh, now you're shooting at Kimberley.

No, not her.

Not her.

You think she's not a good person?

If it doesn't apply, let it fly, right?

If it doesn't apply, let it apply.

Does that make you feel good?

That people may feel intimidated when you're there?

To be honest, I feel fucking uncomfortable.

Okay.

I feel fucking uncomfortable because it's weird.

It's weird behavior.

Fucking get yourself together.

Oh.

Okay.

Well, listen.

Shout out to everyone that was at the Meg Gala.

Andre.

Do you think anybody's back?

We're getting back to you, Andre.

Oh, I wanted to say, I wanted to say,

Meg the Stallion.

She looked great.

diana ross just that beat her to the point absolutely nothing to do with the theme

it was a beautiful chrome silver dress look she looked beautiful she looked beautiful i'm not saying she looked beautiful don't don't think that this has anything to do i'm like mel this has nothing to do with anything i've said about her in the past

I just don't think it went with the theme.

I think that's all.

I think that, no, it was, it gave kind of, no.

It didn't go with the theme.

I just think it's okay to say when people didn't go with the theme.

It's another name I want to say, but I won't, because then you're really going to say that I got a hit list.

Tell me in my ear and I'll say it.

No, oh, no, because you're going to say it.

Then they're going to know I said it.

Oh, okay.

Well,

tell me to

let

you know.

Yeah, for sure.

I really would have.

She looked good, though.

I really would have.

She looked good.

It just didn't go with the theme.

I'm not going to say it.

Yeah.

I really want to know.

I want to know who.

Don't worry about it.

It's not important.

Yeah, not important.

Okay.

Getting out of here.

What are you jumping, dish?

I can't see.

Okay.

I think I know now because I can see that.

I got far-sighted.

But I'm sure a lot of the white people missed it.

Most of the white people missed it.

But that was it.

Pamela Anderson missed it.

I love Pamela Anderson.

Again, great look,

didn't wasn't for the theme.

Heidi Klume, same thing.

Heidi Klum has given more fucking imagination to her fucking Halloween outfits.

That shit was trash on that car.

It just wasn't on me.

Demi Moore's shit was fire, though.

Demi Moore is killing the fucking theme.

Hei Moore is a good one.

Walla.

But with Meg, this is all I want to say with Meg: is Meg's so beautiful, and her body is so beautiful, and she's young, but she

got to take a page out of Cardi's book.

And Cardi is literally,

she experiments a lot.

She has that relationship with Colin.

They are like, you know, they're freaking frack.

They design her looks.

Oh, Colin.

Her stylist.

Yeah.

She needs that.

Yeah, people don't know Mel.

They do.

The fashionist is not.

They know what I'm talking about.

Okay, well, Google Colin and Cardi and then you'll understand.

Okay, well, anyways.

Colin Kaepernick and Nestle where Montclair, shout out to them.

Shout out to them.

Another one of the couples on date night.

But I just want to say for Meg, I just want her to start thinking outside of the box and trying to do things a little bit differently.

You know?

If y'all do date night at the Met Galo, are y'all going to have a wandering eye?

I think that's what it's for.

I think you get permission.

Yeah, I'd better say you have to.

There's no other choice.

What's the point of being there if you ain't wandering?

Yeah.

Yeah.

How far into the show?

I'm sure there's a lot of interesting events after the adapter party.

Also, Lapita.

I love Lapita.

And that color choice, too.

She's beautiful.

Against her skin.

Oh, my God.

Yes.

Beautiful.

Beautiful.

Who else loved

her?

Lapita, Lapita, Quentin Brunson.

I love it.

Absolutely.

I loved it.

There's somebody else.

Don't kill me.

Lauren Hill.

She looks good.

She looks good.

She looks good.

There's something to kill.

Lauren Body did.

I thought she absolutely smoked that shit.

How do y'all think Future looks without his dress?

Come on, let's have a little bit of fun.

Future looks crazy.

Yeah, she crazy.

I don't care about the hair.

It just looks funny.

I always say you like the fit.

It's weird.

No, we're talking about it.

The fit was a no-family.

It's weird.

The dress became like iconic to Future.

Yeah.

So it just looked weird.

The dude looks like he got electrocuted.

That's it.

Bro, they said they called him Wanda Sykes, bro.

Oh, shit.

Shit.

That's a good job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's perfect.

Come on.

They do look like Wanda Sykes.

He don't look like that.

That's what they called him.

No, he definitely looked like...

That's true.

No, he looked a little.

Look crazy to you?

He looked like when you pour the salt on the slug at first.

That shit started drawing up.

Yeah, he looked.

He's an idiot, bro.

That hair, I'm with ice.

I wouldn't have cut him.

Maybe he had a reason.

Maybe he's doing a new look, rebranding.

I I don't know, but the dreads were a thing, and niggas do get...

When you cut the dreads, there's that funny, awkward phase

of you looking funny when you cut the dreads.

Right.

Or niggas don't really.

And if you look good, like DDG cut his shit and took a picture with the hair, now you look goofy again, because you're taking a picture with the hair in your hand.

He actually looked good without the dread.

No, he looks great.

Yeah.

But then when you take the picture holding the hair on the floor, it does look good.

He made that his album crazy.

And shout out to DDG.

A lot of people in the street over the weekend told me his album is hard.

A lot of my younger heads told me the DDG project is hard.

I will check it out.

I haven't heard it yet, but shout out to him.

I gave it a quick listen-through.

And shout out to his community.

He had the JBTV community, pussy niggas running scared for a week.

Damn, I remember that.

Yeah, yeah, no, we got to call out.

We got to call out when the hives run down on niggas.

Niggas under pressure.

Yeah.

They came in the JBVT.

JBVT.

Look, Kenny Santa.

They came in.

Don't fuck with you no more.

They came.

Well, it's the Mark Lama community.

Oh, shit.

That's hate, too.

What's up, my bad?

You got me ice.

You got to be free.

I don't remember what I was saying, man.

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Okay, we just had a really spirited Andre 3000 conversation on Patreon.

That's true.

Yeah, he did.

Bad timing.

And he must have

heard us.

Three stacks.

He must have heard us.

He saw my shirt.

Now,

he showed up to the Met Gala with a piano book bag on.

Seemed heavy.

Yes.

Or light, I'm not sure.

Or awkward, at the very least.

You're going to smack someone with a leg.

Yeah, for certain.

And he seems to have dropped a piano project.

He did, and I listened to it, and I'm ready to kick its back in.

I'm here with you.

I was trying not yeah not the flute shit was cool I can't really it's like watching hockey or something I can't really give no analysis of that shit because that's how I felt like watching keyboards now I know a little bit about the fucking keyboard this was bad and that was bad piano play that shit was the horrible piano let me thumb a little bell first just a little bit he did announce on his Instagram that this out he did announce on his Instagram that this album was made 10 years prior to the flute album.

Don't care.

So, no, but just so people know, he's not saying that this is like he's building on his musicianship.

Uh-huh.

I just don't know that.

I just don't know why he released it.

He's trolling.

You think he's trolling for it?

Yes, I do.

I honestly do.

I think he's just, he knows the excitement of Andre 3000 new album is going to make people say, Yo, is he rapping?

Is he doing this?

Is he doing that?

I think he's like fucking with people now.

So he's putting anything out there.

But that may be true.

He's doing whatever he wants to do, which he has the right to do.

I'm not knocking that.

But why is doing whatever you want to do called trolling?

It's you're trolling your fans.

You know what your fans want.

You know, if they see a new project, they're going to, hey, we just want a verse.

Give us something.

So I'm going to give you everything but that.

I'm not going to give you any words.

This person has not given you any indication that you would be getting words from him anytime soon.

I understand that.

It's teasing.

So at this point, the fans, I'm saying, would be trolling themselves.

Yeah, I don't think he's trolling.

I'll tell you why.

In his announcement on Instagram, he even said, like, this was initially supposed to be titled the worst rap album ever because there's no bars on it.

So, so he was preparing to always say, look, there's no bars.

Don't expect any bars.

I want to.

He's titled it the worst rap album ever.

Yeah.

That's what he said, right?

That's what he was going to title it back then, but he held on to it and decided to put it out.

That would have been trolling had he done that.

I think that would have definitely been trolling.

But I think he decided not to do that and just put it out.

I think it's more just the arrogance of an artist that thinks that no matter what their thoughts are, no matter what they do, we want them.

Like that in the world's entitled to hear them.

This sounded like I remember being a high school band.

Yeah.

And we would just, you know, we mess around and make a little song.

That's what it sounded like, the level of keyboard playing.

Man, this shit sounded like when I got the one, the keyboard when I was eight.

Casio?

Yeah, the little Casio shit that you could make it be the drums if you want.

You

switch the instruments on it, and you just start fucking around.

You have no idea what you're doing.

It was bad.

That was there was a couple good chords there, and I feel like this was him learning how to play piano in real time and just release it to people.

No, this was before he decided to learn how to play piano.

Now, this is like he learned a couple chords from someone and was like, all right, I can put this together.

And sort of did, but it was, it's bad.

Like the dynamics, like he's hitting shit too hard.

Yeah, he doesn't know how to play the piano.

knows minimally how to play the piano and I wouldn't be mad if he took this and was like hey person that is really good at piano This is my idea.

Can you make it good?

And that might work, but him doing it, bro.

Yeah, the one song that didn't suck was the one where

yes, the ones the song that sucked the least was the one that had the organ.

I think it was track six or seven.

It had like the organ playing Blueberry Mansion or some shit.

Yeah,

some other things going on with it.

Nah.

And I still didn't like it.

And then the one chord, the one sort of chord progression that sounded good was just a super derivative of a very famous jazz standard that's escaping me right now.

But it just wasn't good.

I've never seen an artist put out something where they're just bad at the instrument.

Yeah.

And said, hey, watch me play this instrument.

Badly.

Badly.

It's only 16 minutes, the whole album.

It was the worst 15 minutes of music I've said.

I've listened to in a long time.

I listened to it for an hour.

I listened to it on the drive up here because I was like, it's only 16 minutes.

And I hated every band.

I played it again, hoping it would get better.

Yeah.

I've never played this again.

I've never played this again.

Never.

Oh, my God, man.

Never.

I hate all these niggas.

Why?

Why?

I'm going back to what I said, Dice.

At this point, if you're buying these projects from Andre 3000, expecting good music, I think you bring that upon yourself.

No, timeout.

I ain't paying for this.

He don't get a purchase.

He's off that list.

I need to hear this and say, oh, shit, he gave me something.

Let me go support and buy that.

But still, what I'm saying is this: y'all are having a blast unpacking,

right?

And great, I didn't buy the flute album, and I won't be listening to this, so I can't join that.

I didn't hate the flute album.

I won't buy another one.

The flute album, he earned my respect enough.

I didn't like it.

It felt like I was getting a massage.

But at least it was solid music.

You know what I mean?

But part of art for me has to be the messaging and the intent behind it and what it symbolizes.

And I think music is the only place where we condense art to just say, hey, it sounds good, sounds bad, it's trash.

I don't know how that shit sounds because I don't wake up on a reg and put flutes and pianos on.

So I ain't about to break my, I'm not about to break the tradition doing that with him.

However, I think that he is, this is back to my point in our Patreon convo with his album and how it wasn't no rap on it.

I think he's one of the artsyists of the artsy.

For sure.

Absolutely.

And I think that now more than ever, we should be encouraging artists.

You may not agree with how he did it, but we should be encouraging artists to not only do what's near and dear to their heart, but also to find a value in it.

I will say this.

What it made me think of was, hey, it's at least nice to hear humanity.

It's not heavily quantized.

It's not reprogrammed.

No, on the piano shit that we do.

Just like I and all of that shit.

Yeah, this is definitively not AI.

And that part I like.

Yeah, this is definitely AI.

But it's fucking fucking that.

I couldn't do that, yo.

Now, to your point, yes, and artists, we do want artists to explore and put their art out, but art is also subjective.

So I could go to a museum and an artist who busts their ass painting that right there, I could still look at that and say, hey, I don't like that.

And I'm entitled to that as a consumer.

Nothing in what I'm saying is trying to strip you of that right.

So

I don't want you to reply to that.

I think anybody who's trashing him should trash him.

I'm just saying, what if he finds who he's looking for?

What if he finds

it?

Whatever it is that he's searching for and putting out these very eclectic, abstract projects, right?

I don't think it's that deep.

And good for him if he does that.

What they said, I'm not mad at the album.

They said the flute album, the whole entire album was at like 400 and something.

megahertz or 432 hertz, 440 hertz, something like that, which has been quote unquote proven to have certain healing principles and healing power.

So if that's his bag and that's what he's in, then the flute shit might have had a purpose for him.

So you believe that, but you don't believe the Kendrick people looking into lyrics and shit?

If the flute people, if it's moving at a certain megahertz, then that could be proven.

I don't know if that was his intent.

And again, I'm not.

That sounds that sounds like

that is it.

I'm saying that's what the people are saying.

But if that is the entire album is really operating on that frequency, then that might have been his purpose in his fan base.

I think that that was intentional with the flutes, but with the piano

and his outfit, it's like the cart before the horse kind of thing.

I feel like the release of this album was simply just to prepare y'all for this.

Yeah, exactly.

The cover is that.

Exactly.

The cover is literally him with the sketch of the same shit he wore in the middle.

And also, look at the timing.

You know what I mean?

Like, that's exactly what I'm saying.

I was going to say he has over 25 years of being intentional.

True.

And highly accurate.

You don't know him to not be intentional.

Yes, all true.

But this is still intent, but not for the purpose of so that we know.

We don't know.

We don't know.

I'm just saying

what I'm saying is no,

the consumer can say whatever they want.

One thing doesn't negate the other.

I keep saying that.

Like, shit on them.

But the music business today will do everything they can to keep you confined

or in a box.

They'll incentivize you, they'll pay you, they'll bring your friends along, they'll take you to a game, they'll give you a card, they fucking waltz you off your feet so you can stay in the box.

So the very few times that we find somebody that's going to say, you know what, nah, I'm going to do what I want.

I find value in that.

I'm not going to knock the nigga for that.

And as a rapper, you know how frightening it is for a rapper to think, I can speak to this, yo, you know what?

I'm never going to rap again.

Or I'm just not going to rap at the clip I used to rap.

I'm going to take the thing I know how how to do best on the planet and put it on the back burner and now find something else.

Dog, that is so bold and fucking courageous that it's like at that point, why do we care what the retired firefighter is doing with his time?

If that nigga finds solace in being in the garage and sewing and selling it on Facebook, who are we to fucking say, yo, that's trash.

And my thought is saying it's trash.

I said to her,

I got you.

And I get what you're saying, right?

I think for me, it's that Andre has 25 years of being being intentional.

He also has 25 years of putting on high quality art, right?

Whether it's visual art, whether it's the cartoons, everything he does is high quality.

So I had a faith in him with the flute album that it would be high quality.

Flute album wasn't for me.

Was it not?

I didn't listen to it.

No, the flute album was high quality.

That's what I was saying.

I'm saying it was high quality.

It just wasn't for me.

That's different, right?

It's high quality.

It just wasn't for me.

This is the departure for me, not because it's not for me, but because it's actually not good art.

It's not good.

I don't really think that it's a departure, though.

I think in my my interpretation, you know, because you know, art is subjective, I think that this was literally being treated as an accessory to his fucking outfit.

Because, because

you know what I'm saying?

Because he had it for 10, 11 years and never did shit all with it.

Except when he texted it to his friends.

Yeah, exactly.

It's only 15, 16 minutes long.

It's unfinished, whatever.

But he happens to release it around the exact same time that the Met Gala comes out and he has this outfit.

I just, I'm looking at this as simply just an accessory to the outfit.

There's a really, really weird accessory.

Then it's then, I think that's super fly and artsier.

Yes, yes.

If that's what's happening.

Yes.

Unless it sucks.

Unless it's a bad breakthrough.

Smart.

It's bad earrings.

I'm not.

Yeah, exactly.

Right.

You know what I mean?

This thing is put on a beret.

But let's be clear.

The outfit also kind of sucks.

So it's consistent.

I have a different reverence for Andre.

I love

Andre is one of my favorite people.

My favorite crew of all time.

Andre, I think we all up here love Andre.

But the love don't mean we can't say, hey, we love you, but that ain't it.

No, that's true.

That's all I'm saying.

However, know that the person you're talking about, every step of his career since the beginning has been people saying, hey, whatever you're doing is not it right now.

Joe,

what are you not good at?

Name something you're not good at.

It's math.

It's not a math album.

Okay, right.

So, like, if you said, look, I'm retiring from rap because I'm not going to do rap anymore.

I'm going to do something like you podcasting.

You're great at this.

It's a shell method and a disc method.

I think podcasting is the perfect example.

I just don't want to fucking take it there right this second, but it's the perfect example.

Yo, I'm going to not rhyme.

I'm not going to produce high quality art.

I'm going to just talk.

But that's a little different because in your rhyming, you were still

expressing yourself.

You were talking.

You're a communicator.

You were just doing it rhyming and on beat.

So you still talking.

I'm only talking about from the POV of the person that has to make the change.

Right, but right.

But I'm saying as the consumer of that change, if you decided to say, I'm going to now make, I'm I'm going to start

web streaming

math tutoring sessions, and all your math problems are wrong, and all your equations are off.

That's different.

As a consumer, I'm like, yo,

this isn't what I expected.

It's not a perfect comparison.

My point is just.

I like the comparison.

And stay here for a second.

I don't like it.

It's a bad comparison because you could prove the math.

You could prove the math to be correct, but incorrect.

But let me respond to it.

Let me respond to it.

Because I like it.

Leave those things.

I like those things that y'all trying to take out.

I went and started a math club

and all of my math was wrong

and bad and sloppy and defied all of the things that math, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.

I then go to amass

a following of

10 million people.

Let's call it year one.

Not only are they going to come up with a new name for my math,

but this bad math is about to be a thing now because i've amassed this audience so who is it on me this uh why is it on

why would it be on the person to say well we shouldn't start that person so fear-based we shouldn't start that person with hey everything you're about to do is wrong so you shouldn't do it right and i'm not at the should level i'm i'm saying as a consumer because i i take what i said seriously right you're right it's not a good comparison because there's an objectivity to whether math is right or wrong but what i'm saying is as a consumer i have a right to say look i expected great things from you because you're giving me great shit And now this is shit.

That's all I'm saying.

And when I hear the flute album, I'm like, this isn't for me.

It's great.

It's just not for me.

When I hear the piano, I'm like, this is actually technically, it's not quite math objective, but this is technically bad piano playing.

I could also just say, as someone who produces music and who is not a world-class musician, who works with other people that are not a world-class musician, it's okay to say, hey, I have this idea.

I can't fully execute it.

Let me get someone who does.

And that's all that he can do.

I think that's fine.

He's still a composer.

It could still be his album, but it's someone that is really good at piano or at least better than him executing his idea.

Like, yo, if Hove tomorrow put out an album and it's him

singing,

all singing, no auto-tune, none of that shit, but he's singing and he just sounds bad.

He can't sing, he can't hold a note or nothing.

It ain't gonna take away from Hove's greatness, but we're gonna be like, yo, my nigga, this don't ever sing again.

Don't say, like, like, we can't tell him that.

But it has to be like, we could be like,

I don't want to hear you sing that anymore.

And I would be like, objectively, you're off-key.

Like, there are things about it, technically that are just off.

Wait.

And I'm saying y'all should totally be able to say that.

For sure.

Just leave some space for the people that

want to see how Hove distributed this album, what his intent was behind this album.

Because if Hove put out an album, Farting, on

his title shit,

because he just closed the deal with Roger Goodell because he knew something was coming down the pipeline, and now on all commercials, Farton Domino.

Then I'm going to say

he's a genius.

So all I'm saying is allow space

for the people.

I don't know what Andre's intention here was,

but he's been a genius.

I'm going to say a little bit more to that.

He's been a genius as long as I've known him.

So I'm just allowing space for it.

And if not, we could call him a duck.

No, he's still a genius.

Even with this album and the flute album, it's still genius shit.

We just don't got to like it.

That's not

trying to be a single person.

Let me ask you a genius.

Yeah, no, no, I'm off of that.

But let me ask you something.

If back in the day, if you were great friends with

Albert Einstein, right?

And then I'm leaving this because now I'm just

coming up with shit.

Sounds nice.

If you was best friends with Albert Einstein.

Sounds ridiculous.

Sounds nuts to you.

Yeah, but you know him to be the genius.

But let's say he get a hangover one day.

Mm-hmm.

And now he just started talking something that sound like gibberish.

It don't sound like himself.

Would you discount it or would you still listen?

I would listen.

Why?

Because he's earned that cachet with me.

He's earned that.

He got that equity with me by being such a genius that I know him to be.

Same thing with Andre.

We run to listen.

Soon as the shit dropped, press play.

Andre is an immediate cop.

Well, immediate listen.

I ain't paying for it.

Once you hear it, it's like, oh, all right, my nigga, you on bullshit.

You just doing whatever you want.

You doing what you want to do.

Okay, cool.

This wasn't for me.

Respect.

I think

that's what I'm saying.

I think we need more artists that do what they do.

Some people are all disagree with that.

I think we need more artists that do whatever.

Some people may not like what he's doing.

I end with, I think we need more artists that do whatever we all agree on that.

The freedom to do whatever the fuck they want to do.

Nobody here is disagreeing with that.

We all want them to do that.

But.

You ain't never getting your Rihanna album, nigga.

Take them flutes and pianos and enjoy it.

You're never getting Rihanna.

We want more people to do what they want to do, but at the same time, if it's still, we want people to do it and the quality still still be good.

That's it.

That's a good question.

Some people are invested in the art, freeze.

That's it.

And again, art is invested in the art.

There may be a hundred thousand people that love this Andre album.

What scripts do y'all live by?

What?

What scripts do y'all live by?

What is that?

What do you mean by scripts?

Quotes?

No.

Just what?

What script?

For me, if I had to say it's probably only my mom and my girl.

Outside of that, I'm on my own fucking time.

Whose script

are you living out?

Nobody's

on my own.

That being said, I will listen to someone around me.

And I feel like someone around him must have said, hey, bro, what are you doing?

That's all.

Yo, what's this?

Maybe you could try do it now that you're a better musician or something.

That would have been interesting to me, too, to hear

what he sounded like now.

You probably didn't play it to nobody.

And just, yo, this is what I'm saying.

I like the fact that he said he said it to his friends on text.

That's why I really lean into this was an accessory to the outfit.

And who's ever used music as an accessory to an outfit?

Let me give you a quick example.

Hold on, let me give you a quick example.

You were recording new music for.

I remember this.

I walked in the crib.

You were right into inception.

I walked in the kitchen and I heard you going, you talking out loud while he was writing.

Yo, let's warm it up.

Microwave.

Shit about to get hot.

Summer.

I say, what the fuck you doing?

Because that's not you.

You're too good of a rapper to do that.

You was like, yo, don't worry about it.

I'm doing something with this.

You'll get it.

Cool.

So you could hear something that's not the person,

ask them what they're doing, and they just say, Yo, I got this.

Like you said, Andre could have told them, Yo, this is just something to accompany my outfit.

Don't worry about it.

I got it.

And you let them cook.

Don't charge me for that.

Quick question.

Beyond Andre.

You say something slick to this nigga with the funny flutes and pianos, he's going to ball you to death.

I'm just telling you.

Well, maybe, whatever it takes to get him to rap.

I'll take that.

I'll take it.

Burn me up, please.

And I'm going to join.

Selfish fiend.

If y'all could do something completely outside of what y'all doing in life to take a risk, what would it be?

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, I sometimes think about writing a book of poems or doing, you know what I mean?

Like, you know, you think about some shit that's just completely outside of your wheelhouse that you would do to take that kind of risk.

What would it be for you?

I'm going to be honest with you.

This was a risk for me because I hated cameras.

I never was a fan of none of that shit.

And he was hurting.

I hated the tension.

I hated cameras and all that.

And I still got them, though.

And I still got them, though.

Well, that's facts.

Okay.

I don't know if you're going to put a couple things in that though.

I ain't never saying we're going to do that.

Okay.

Big freeze.

Come on, big freeze.

But yeah, yeah, like that was a risk.

I never liked attention, never liked cameras and all that shit.

So this was a risk.

Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah, it makes sense.

It makes sense.

And he was ugly as hell.

Yeah, he was.

Blowing ants off of the microphone.

No, he was, though.

He was.

That ain't stopped nothing, though.

You say, well,

everybody else can answer the question.

Before everybody else can answer the question, though, let's keep the conversation shit.

What film would it be?

Film.

I'll answer.

Film.

On screen or at all?

No, correct.

I don't know, actually.

I'm not sure.

Something in visual arts, though.

Like film, though, photography or speaking of visual arts, you didn't mention Jeff Goldblum.

No, I'm sure.

Oh, yeah, he looked good.

When he said film, I had a Jeff Goldblum.

I was cooking.

Clean shoes.

Clean Jeff Muffin.

No, that's pet.

Wash your dishes.

That's pet.

That's that.

72.

That's a good one.

Washed your dishes.

Shout him out.

Nah.

Still the opposite.

He's not that guy.

He is a smooth dude, though.

That's the level of smooth you can only hope to aspire to get at 72 years old.

But he's been that way for a long time.

He was flowing.

He's always been that way.

Suave and deaf.

I want to answer Mark's question.

It was a good question.

For me, it would be gaming and anime.

That's so far outside my realm.

I know nothing about it.

It looks cool.

It's intimidating to me.

No, you know what you know about it.

You know a lot about gaming.

You know why gaming.

You ain't fooling

characters in video games, but I mean, like

what you was in, like Grand Theft on um, uh, Def Jams, um, a couple of them, but Def Jam was one,

and then another one I can't find.

You try to steal your thunder, bro.

That was crazy,

but yeah, that was that would that would be what I would do.

Yeah, how about you flip

probably dancing,

yeah,

Trickle toes.

Yes.

I can see that.

Any particular genre or style?

Ballet.

Yeah.

The waltz.

The waltz.

He likes that old school shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's true.

You never thought about dancing with the stars?

Nah.

No.

Would you do it?

I would.

Really?

Mm-hmm.

Like the wrestling shit?

Oh, see.

What about the wrestling shit?

No, nothing.

I don't understand the comparison.

Saying wrestling was something you said you wanted to do early on, and then because of fear, you quit and was scared to put the words on.

Did you listen to your white counterpart?

Did he tell you that?

No.

Because that's what you like to do.

You like to listen to the white man.

So that's not what it was.

You know, that's not what it was.

I allowed you.

No, I didn't allow.

I was comfortable with the narrative being put out.

That's not what it was.

He had an idea.

Oh, I didn't ask you to clear it up on the table.

Oh, yeah.

All right.

I cleared up on Twitter when they said it told me.

She said if they brought the mask dancer back, what character would you be?

Barney.

Buffett did.

I'll be Barney.

Yeah.

That's the good thing.

I mean, you know, listen, it's okay.

Just to continue to take risks.

Just to continue to take a risk.

You thought about that.

He thought about that.

He thought about that.

I'm going to go back to comedy.

That's funny.

It's comedy for me.

That's a good one.

On stage?

On stage.

Stand up.

Traveling the world.

Back to touring.

Chitlin circuit.

That's interesting.

Comedy.

I'd be able to say all the things that I want to say on here, but I don't because they would attribute it to me.

Every time you think, it's a bigger risk, though, because you don't pay the audience to laugh.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, it's scary when you go out there.

Have you ever done like a stand-up set?

No.

You thought about it.

I've never done a stand-up set, but I've just warmed up crowds, you know, because I've hosted comedy shows.

That shit, the moment you tell a joke that nobody laughs at, that shit crumbles.

It's like getting punched in the chest.

Okay, but hold up now.

When I say comedy, I don't necessarily want to be good every night.

Interested.

Can't be.

I would love to stand there in a tank.

And go out there and bomb.

And have to deal with a bomb and work through a bomb to end up

trying to build character.

I want to see how it makes me feel.

I would want to stand in the tank.

I don't just want to be Mr.

Perfect for whatever this new shit is.

That's all.

I'm going to do it as your button.

Do it as like pre.

Yeah.

So you're talking about it for so many years.

I just want you to just go to one of them little local comedy drinks and just why, yeah, why do you, I'll just

stop.

Like, even with that, or

DJing and, you know, getting on, DJing in front of the crowd.

Like, why do you stop?

Why don't you do it?

Plenty of times you talk about doing these things and you haven't done it.

You be a great DJ.

You'd be a great DJing.

Yeah, we say that all the time.

I don't know.

But sometimes

you think sometimes the music you hear in your head, and they're not responding to it.

Same thing with comedy.

You got to be able to get through that when you're throwing some shit on that you think you jamming and they like,

nah, this ain't it.

Yeah, yeah, so it don't necessarily mean because you can play music well, don't mean you can DJ well and MC a play.

How does it come true?

You got to be a risk taker.

You think you're too old to take risk?

Um, no, I just think in answer Mark's question, that's something that I would want to do if, like, if I was calling the shots, not living by a certain script.

But to answer your question, why I don't do it right now,

I'm a bitch.

Listen, buddy.

Are you done?

I'm sorry.

I don't have time to stop what what I'm on right now.

Go follow my heart.

Yo.

It's money or passion now.

I'm not at the point in life where I'm living for me.

I got to

experiment and do this over here.

If I was living for me, let's go have at it.

SOBs, we back.

But what's your answer?

Anything public speaking related.

Wait, what?

You tried that already, though.

That's what that's not really.

Wait, don't you already do that, though?

No.

I don't don't do that much.

Y'all so dumb, man.

Why y'all can't let him share and be volunteered before y'all?

No, just.

I know what he's saying.

He's saying like a public, like a motivational speaker, like a public speaker, like a stand up in front of a large crowd.

But isn't that why you went to the DR?

That's hate.

That is beginning to be a hard time.

I don't need it's clarity.

That's not why any man goes to the bottom.

You can say whatever you want.

Wait, wow, just so y'all know.

Hitting on his color story.

Just so y'all know, this is not the DR broadcast.

Yeah, it's not.

It's DR.

It's just DR.

Here is DR.

Okay,

not the Dominican.

Yeah, yeah.

DR.

But yeah, I mean, like, that's what I thought that was.

It was like a whole

convention conference that you were speaking at.

I don't like that you stuck on con that long.

No,

no,

I'm being serious.

I'm not going to be a public speaker.

Don't do that.

That's what I'm saying.

I feel like it's already in his wheelhouse.

He's good at speaking and motivating people.

I don't know.

I feel like we were talking about things that were like that so far removed from who you are.

Like,

my nigga, I don't know what to tell you.

I answered it.

Like, I don't know what to tell you.

I said, poems, you know, I just think it might want to be something physical, actually, because poems ain't that far.

I'm too late.

I've already started thinking of what a Markle Mont Hill poem book would sound like.

No, no, no, no, listen to it.

Sorry, bro.

That's going to happen.

So, you know, the pyramid and the scheme.

But I didn't scheme when I built the pyramid.

But I see you in the eyes of the

body.

A poem book.

Go ahead, Mark.

I think you'll do it.

I actually think I'd want to fight.

That's what I think I want to do.

Is there any way that I could

help you guys?

MMA.

See, body.

Wait, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

$3,300.

Nigga, why do you share that to niggas and you don't help yourself, nigga?

In order to help us, you get out there and go fuck it.

No, fuck the money.

So, nigga, you get out there and go fuck it.

Don't play with me, nigga.

Get out there and do something, nigga.

I am.

Throw a party at DJ.

Nah, not yet.

You told all that shit off.

Not my time yet.

I had my laptop with me.

I got shook.

Nigga, do it.

Motivate.

You told all that shit, but you don't do it.

Nigga, lead by example.

We want to see.

Show me.

That's what you can show me.

One day, maybe.

We always, that's what our parents used to say.

And I want to put out a dog food.

Fire.

You want to put out a dog food?

That's fire.

Now you got to talk about dope, right?

You got to say more about that.

You're not talking about going back to the streets, all right?

Alpo, right.

That's fire, what you said.

You body it.

It'll be a healthy little food.

What do you mean, making a dog food?

I'm sorry, I don't understand.

Dog food.

I don't know so much.

I can't explain here because.

Okay.

IP.

But it's not just dog food.

Like, I envision an entire

line of animal products.

Animal products?

You said too much.

Okay.

That's five, though.

That's five.

That's too much.

Okay.

I got you.

Okay, say that.

Is that really something?

If I'm answering Mark's question to the best of my ability, yeah.

Got it.

That scares you, though?

No, I'm not.

I didn't interpret the question to have to be about fear.

Just far out your wheelhouse.

I mean, there's something scary about that, but I think of it as a little something that's a little scary, but I gotta be.

Bob wouldn't be scared.

I mean, if you have the platform to promote it and stuff, I mean, unless.

Yeah, I don't know why that would be, yeah.

I get what Corey's saying, but

you have the audience, you have the platform.

People are animal lovers.

Like, comedy, I get the scariness of it.

Yeah, that's fearful.

Speaking, I get the scariness of it.

The anime, I think, for you is just because it's a different genre and stuff.

You and working for a living.

What you gotta do is go talk to one of the little Japanese niggas.

She'll get it, dog.

Melissa Fall.

Them girls cooking over there.

One beast.

She'd be like, oh, what's that?

She'll get it.

That's right.

Oh, salute.

There you go.

Salute.

Salute.

There we go.

Yeah, I'm walking on that.

You guys care about Rihanna being pregnant?

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

I knew y'all would say that.

So, do you guys care about ASAP Rocky saying that he wears Rihanna's clothes?

No.

We kind of knew that.

That's fine.

That's surprising.

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.

But wear shit.

Where her brand or wear her clothes?

She go in her closet and wear some of the articles in her closet.

Well, I don't think he said skirts.

No, I saw a picture of him in a skirt.

I don't know if it was hers, but you know.

Was it a kilt or a skirt?

It was a kilt.

It was a kilt.

I saw some skirts before.

I don't know if he wears her skirts, but

I don't see that wrong.

I mean, it depends on what the item of clothing is.

Yeah,

I mean, he's proven himself to be super androgynous, so no, nobody, it's whatever.

My thing is, whatever works for you, I wear my wife's t-shirts, hoodies.

Yeah, yeah.

She says we wear the same size.

Exactly.

And her husband.

Hers a little baggy on me, though.

And her jeans.

Nah, I like mine a little tighter, a little thinner.

For real?

Are you joking?

Which part?

You wear your wife's t-shirts and hoodies.

We both wear mediums.

If my wife wasn't half my size, I might steal a hoodie every now and again.

I wouldn't.

I slow down, you guys.

But because of you assholes, I have moved to largest sometimes

in fact she was looking at my closet last night and I was like babe you can have the mediums over there because once I the problem is I could wear a medium but I can't wash it right so I end up buying a lot of hoodies I wear but the problem with the large is it's a little too bad

I wash my hoodies yeah as opposed to what the cleaners cleaners oh I mean what I said I send them to I get them laundered but I'm saying like when they come back they come back tight oh yeah

but

yeah I need one I need you know one because the only ones

you and issues are supposed to be recommending stuff to me.

That's all right.

I need y'all.

I need y'all to recommend that for you, buddy.

I ain't telling you shit.

That'll be your last bucket.

Shut the fuck up, yo.

What the hell is going on with you?

Recommending MJ, fuck Mark.

Stop saying that.

Please, man.

Anyway.

Anyway, yeah, yeah, but yeah, we're going to be able to do that.

So congratulations to Rihanna.

Yeah, shout out to Rihanna.

What do you say to that?

She looks great.

She looks like she looks like she looks amazing.

She looked great.

She bodied that shit, too.

Oh, shit.

We didn't talk about the picture of her and Sierra.

That was fire, too.

I'm glad they did that.

That was fire.

Because they used to have the beef on Twitter.

You know, the famous tweet, one of the most famous tweets of all time.

She slaughtered it.

Smoked a good look at her.

She used to beef with a couple people, huh?

Those spaghetti stage.

She beefed with a couple people, didn't she?

Rihanna?

No, Sierra.

Sierra?

Yeah.

I don't know who else Sierra beefed with.

I know Rihanna got Tiana Taylor.

Rihanna had a couple online beefs.

That's true too.

She bodied a couple people on their Twitter when it was new.

Yo, when the 2000s was so stupid, they was really riding with T.

Haver's real name is Carl.

Oh,

yeah, they tried to, yeah, they was bugging out.

And that shit spread before the internet.

That's what was crazy.

The internet is dangerous, yo.

Like that, she had

a

lot of people.

I'm just saying, but she's such a sweet person, too.

She is.

She is one of the sweetest people I've ever met.

We can't regurgitate that, but we can regurgitate all the slave dandyism.

Well, I mean, because

it was a theme, you know, but we're not going to regurgitate it.

It's way worse than that.

No, it's not.

It's not.

We're We're not gonna regurgitate the ugly shit that they were saying about her.

That was fucked up.

Well, and it's not true.

Obvious.

And it's not true.

Definitely not true.

Oh, my lord.

They said you were Rashid Wallace, so I mean.

What?

Which is better than Carl.

They said she was Rashid Wallace.

They takes that over what they were saying about old girl.

That's true.

That's true.

In the culture.

You wasn't outside.

It's cool.

Yeah.

I know who Rashid Wallace is.

Oh.

Okay.

i would never mix up these two

him and rasheed wallace ever hmm that's why i'm curious i'm confused but

okay

many years ago

i hate when y'all talk i've been trying to protect y'all from y'allselves well

you mentioned you mentioned rasheed wallace you want to talk basketball players and paul pierce oh we can do that

All right.

Paul Pierce has a.

Trying to get out of that.

Paul Pierce has a clip floating around.

I sent it to Parks.

You got it?

I do.

Okay, where he's speaking on marriage and my favorite thoughts on it.

My favorite.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, because I feel like every relationship shouldn't be based off sex, but every relationship is based off of that.

I don't think so.

100%.

You can't tell me nothing different.

This is what I feel, and that's why I'll never be in another relationship because it's always based off of that.

So you're not going to be in another relationship?

No, no, for what?

Because it's going to be based off of sex.

Once that wear down, you're going to go find somebody else that's better.

Wear down.

Yeah.

It ain't going to be based off of.

This is the thing.

And listen carefully.

Listen carefully.

Relationship.

You said a smoker jacket.

Let me say what marriage is.

And who's marriage for?

Marriage is for old people and poor people.

Okay, so let's get into that and why.

Because when you broke our parents, like my moms and all them, they married on a merit of like, okay, we're going to put our incomes together have all these kids and then with our kids we're gonna have five ten kids back in the 60s all them they're gonna have five ten kids so they can work and bring income yeah

so

you poor so you married for that and now when you get old

somebody got to be by your side to take care of

right now my mom got married My mom never been married in my lifetime.

She got married when she was 70.

Wow.

It was perfect.

She had somebody by her side the whole way through.

So

I really believe that.

I just knew it's worse than I thought.

Outside of that, it's no advantage to a man.

Why is marriage advantage?

What advantage?

What does it do for a man when things go south?

Like, we're going to have to give up half our disc, pay child support, pay, but what do the

pertains to a woman?

He's almost, we can stop it.

It's real talk.

But what if you meet a

I don't know that shit.

I want to hear more.

Yo,

drunk Paul Pierce is one of my favorite people to listen to.

Not saying he was drunk here, but he sounded, you know, he beat him.

Sounded that he read it.

I think he put that out there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I want to let the audience know, and I'm talking the ball to y'all.

I want to let y'all know, Paul Pierce is on the list for me of people that I don't listen to one word that they have to say unless he's talking about basketball.

If he's not talking about, I want to hear him and Kevin Gardner.

I want to hear that basketball shit.

He's one of the greats.

Can't take that away from him.

Anything outside of that scope, he's on the list for me.

He sounds like he's speaking through trauma.

That's what he sounds like.

He's speaking.

First of all, let's go through the statistics about men.

First of all,

married men are healthier than their single counterparts.

That's just a fact.

That's just a fact.

I've definitely heard it.

Okay.

And there's a reason for that because their wives take care of them.

Whenever you guys.

Sorry.

Your wives do.

Your wives and significant others do a lot for you.

You know, they do a lot of the emotional labor.

They do a lot.

Just hold on.

Don't.

just just

they do a lot of stuff but they also make sure that you go to the doctor when shit is fucked up because they need you so married men are taken are very taken care of by their wives so they are healthier than their single counterparts that's number one number two in terms of marriage being for fucking poor people

the majority of uh CEOs of Fortune 500 companies, almost every single president, millionaires, multi-millionaires, billionaires, 95% of them are married.

Why?

Because that indicates stability amongst a whole host of other fucking things.

So there you've got that fucking wrong.

Taxes.

To your point, yes, taxes.

It's mutually beneficial to be married rather than being a single person.

I can speak to that.

And then furthermore, your reality is fucking skewed.

You've never been married.

You've been living in a bubble.

Your reality is completely, is not the norm.

So if you're associating marriage with just sex that, you know, the desire dries out and then the woman is just going to take you for half your worth and

sue you for child support.

Well, you are, you sound mad bitter, actually.

Like, that's a really, really skewed

way of looking at love and companionship.

That's, that's fucking wild to me.

I'm wishing.

Yeah, so I will defer to the gentleman in the room to

make your points and then I'm going to go to the middle.

I'll defer to the marriage people in the room.

Yes, absolutely.

I mean, I do agree with Mel.

Stability isn't important, taxes.

Understanding somebody did.

Why do you keep saying that?

Because you got married young.

You didn't have money when you got married.

That's not true.

You had money when you got married?

I did.

I had a T-Mobile deal.

So I did get married, but I spent on some money.

Look who woke up.

Look who woke up.

Look who woke up.

Laughing my expense.

Keep on.

Look who woke up, gang.

Fuck out of here, nigga.

I didn't know you had a sidekick deal.

I did.

Look at the man.

look, look, look.

Look, look, look at that nigga's man, look.

Look at the hate.

I had a T-Mobile deal.

Who hating?

You, nigga.

I'm hating.

You did need to protect the T-Mobile deal.

He said he made $70,000 from his T-Mobile deal.

You need to protect the funds from the T-Mobile deal for you.

Okay.

Your wife told me looking at you like the lick.

I wasn't married yet, but at 20 years old, bro.

$70,000.

At 20, when I was 20, it was a lot.

I did bullshit with it, but it was a lot for me.

Yeah.

It was short-lived.

I bought two watches like an idiot.

It's a Gucci cat.

No, no, no.

That was before.

Thank God you got on the reparations list.

Oh,

yeah, right.

I'll fuck up.

Don't worry,

it's skipping your house.

You talking about my family?

No, I'm talking about.

Y'all not on the reparations list?

Because what we could.

Because we got a ripping cat.

Cause we could rip.

Would you put me on that list?

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

You're not.

I'm not.

I gotta report you.

I don't have that much power.

You report me.

Look, it's a finite amount

gonna do that.

Hey, for sure.

We gotta put that down.

I got to.

Honestly, if you found out your man was on the list, but he was

he if he was Caribbean descent, would you really report it?

Yes, we got to split this money.

You fucking.

I'm taking money for black people, nigga.

Are you crazy?

Look, nigga, I'm down with you.

No, no, no.

No, nigga, you ain't down.

I'm down.

Then you're Jamaican.

But that's what you got.

We got it down with.

We got it.

No, we got it.

That was me, Joey.

That's the fucking thing.

King Coon and the tub.

I don't care what side.

I'm sitting on the mother side of the money.

King Coon tub.

So man.

Too bad.

King Coon.

That was funny.

Oh.

Oh, man.

Please stop the freeze.

Are you finished with your points?

Because we're moving around the room.

Oh, yeah, yeah, man.

Yes, I'm finished with my point.

I'm just saying, like, marriage, taxes, taxes, but not only taxes, though.

But I do agree with Mel.

Like, your wife takes on a lot of responsibilities.

It makes you more comfortable as a man for you to go outside and get to it and provide, but she's doing a lot of the inner stuff in the home that you don't realize it's a lot and it'll be a strain on you if she wasn't around.

And also, discipline.

Yeah, discipline.

And also, discipline, yeah.

Like, I have a like I have bills, they take care of a lot of shit that you may tend to forget.

Focus.

Yes.

You know, removing like, you know, all the distractions of the street so you can focus and like become a better person.

Oh, you're going to be outside and be a hoe.

You go come and carry chicken.

You can be outside and be a hoe.

But I go outside and be a little bit.

Have no fucking dick discipline and shit.

Go ahead.

I mean, if that's the life you aspire to live.

I mean, hey, whatever.

Float your fucking boat.

Nigga, you watch your fucking boat.

Yo, you.

Marriage does take a different type of discipline.

That's why I'm deferring to the married people.

I want to hear from y'all.

But the discipline it takes to look at somebody in the face

like.

Every day.

They face.

You ever just see the shape of it?

I don't.

Every day ain't a good face thing either.

You look a little different, right?

Every day it fades from the shape of the shit.

Let me shape shit.

Yo, bitch, look at you.

Got to stare at you until one of us die.

Okay, Mark.

It's a beautiful thing, though.

This is what I said.

Paul Pierre said a couple things, though.

First, he said, like, relationships, take marriage off the table.

He said relationships are about sex.

I just think that's not true.

Sex are a big part of relationship, romantic relationships.

It ain't the only thing.

He's speaking through his arrested development.

And that's what I'm saying.

Like, there's plenty of people.

I even know niggas that cheat,

that have a great, healthy sort of friendship with their partner, and sex is somewhere else.

So I'm saying, like, sex ain't always the thing that keeps you in a relationship.

You know what I mean?

There's lots of things that keep you in relationships other than sex.

You feel like you could actually like the person.

Yeah, like, you can make

you with a woman.

These niggas don't like women.

These niggas don't like women.

Not these niggas in the room, but these niggas that we're talking about, they don't like women.

They just want to sleep with them.

But in terms of liking them and seeing value in them, they don't do that.

That sounds like what you're talking about.

Yeah.

That is what it sounds like.

That he sounds like that's how he sounds.

That's how he sounds to me.

I mean, I just don't think.

I mean, my wife, I just speak.

Yo, what the fuck?

One more Mel side.

I agree.

Watch your step buddy, too.

You're encroaching on my territory.

Whoa, wait.

Hold on.

Don't even try it.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Keep going.

To be clean.

Clean up, nigga.

We were talking about the...

No, it's not our three yet, boy.

No, no, not Mel.

Mel.

We're talking about discourse of feminine.

I just want you to clean it up, my nigga.

Thank you.

You better get back to that motherfucking shit.

Yeah, all right.

We have to have it, boy.

I was telling Joe was playfully using the language of feminism.

I was saying that.

No, no, we know, but now that you said that.

Now that you said that, we got to create a case.

I got to make it clear.

I'm trying to hold you down.

Look out.

That was not holding me down.

That was holding you down in the tongue.

Right.

Under the water.

Right.

No, but so I disagree with that point.

There is an interesting thing he said that I think we have to be sort of critical of or honest about.

Marriage historically has been about money and marriage was really a contract.

It was about ownership.

It was a business arrangement, right?

And men were giving their daughters to other men and that's why we gave dowries and land and all this.

I mean, it was a business arrangement.

So I don't want to pretend that that history doesn't exist, but I think there's lots of reasons to get married other than security or safety or money.

I'm not saying people don't.

There's good reasons to get married, having somebody with you, you know, having a better financial situation.

You're stronger financially if there's two of y'all making an income.

All that is true.

But there's really good reasons to be married.

And I didn't know this until I was married.

Even being with my wife before we were married, living with her before we were married, I still find greater value in the marriage.

You know what I mean?

Like, I actually enjoy being married.

And if your wife, if your partner is your best friend, if it's somebody you really fuck with, marriage and that, that shit is a whole other level of joy when you get to be home with that person.

Don't mean they don't get on your nerves.

Don't mean all the other shit is true.

But like I wouldn't trade it for anything.

And I think a lot of married men I know wouldn't trade it for, I don't say most, but a lot of married men I know wouldn't trade it for anything.

That's all I would say.

Agreed.

I think that I think that

we've kind of discussed all the reasons why marriage is good, but I also do think that there are people that maybe shouldn't get married.

Maybe he's one of those people.

Like, if you still want to run around and do shit, you probably shouldn't be married.

Well, I think that when I meet people that make a lot of money and been with someone for a really long time and aren't married for some principal reason, I think that that's a little foolish because of the tax benefits, because of the security blanket of being married.

There's a bunch of reasons to be married if you make a lot of money, especially if you are

committed to a single person.

That being said, if you want to run around and fuck a bunch of people, you probably shouldn't be married.

Well, my thing just about

that arrangement.

But wait, what I was saying, to his point, he's saying, you know,

you break up, she take half of everything.

You can protect yourself against that.

That's true, too.

Like, you act like it's this or that.

You could always structure your marriage however you see fit, get a prenup, whatever you need written in there, and now you're protected.

So those things you're sitting here complaining about won't happen to you.

He's like, yeah, get that little cheating clause out of there.

Infidelity clause.

Are you crazy, girl?

Let me get this straight.

Try to sneak it in there.

He said, if I fuck one little insect wincy girl, you get to take it off.

I don't think only married people.

I'm joking right now, by the way, because my girl be listening.

I'm joking.

Married people shouldn't be on the people weighing in on this.

Paul Pierce not even married.

I mean, like, what do you think?

And Joe has been.

Right, Joe Ish, what do y'all think about this?

I couldn't agree more with UML.

Like, Like,

it's Paul Pierce talking.

I'm not paying him no mind, but I can't wait to be married.

I cannot wait to get married.

Just for the structure of it, my girl just helps me to be palatable.

She helps in my decision-making.

We find the same shit.

Money, we enjoy the same music.

We enjoy the same shows.

Her skin is soft.

If that changes, we'll reevaluate it.

But, like,

I love, yeah,

I love all that shit.

I'm with that shit.

I have a friend who, you know, was, she met her husband and he was a playboy, but the sun rose and set on the crack of her ass, according to him, and they ended up getting married.

He was a playboy.

He was out in the streets, and he was,

he was doing very well for himself, you know, very well.

Since they've been married, the structure and discipline and just everything involved in her support and love, he recently just sold his company for like almost $100 million fucking dollars.

I don't necessarily know.

I can't, I'm not a fortune teller, but with the way that he conducted himself and just had girlfriend after girlfriend after girlfriend and girlfriend, and then what he ended up with having a structured relationship with somebody who loved and cherished him and he felt the same way back and she raising their kids and stuff like that, I don't see him getting to that point without her.

You know, and that's just saying like just when it's when it is a good marriage and it is a good partnership with people who like and love each other, that that is

that's the kind of thing that it it affords you to become, like the man that you can become.

I want to also add, by the way,

in the last, however, let's call it two years, we have seen some amazing, prominent, rich, powerful, wealthy single men get absolutely destroyed by running around the streets doing whatever the fuck they wanted to.

Good point.

Absolutely.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Is there anyone here that has an opposing opinion on this?

On what?

On what he said?

On this point, what we missed.

on the marriage topic.

I think I don't oppose what anybody's saying.

I think Paul Pierce is just speaking from a skewed perspective based on his career and his experiences, though.

So I don't necessarily think that if he was an accountant, he would feel that way.

You know what the problem is?

He didn't get with them Cape Verdeans.

He was over there for a fucking time.

Yes, he did.

He was in Boston a long time.

That nigga, he got with them.

He might be the

prime minister of Cape Verdeans.

Fuck you talking about that nigga was in Boston forever.

He did.

There's some other shit in Boston he might have been around.

Jojo Joe.

If you was in Boston, that don't mean you was with the K-Birds.

They came across as bad.

You have a choice.

No, they came across it.

And that might not be his bad.

Some of his views, listen, when that nigga was on ESPN or wherever he was playing poker.

I was in Boston for two days.

And I found a K-Bird.

In my prime, I found a few K-Birds.

What?

Yeah, y'all don't know if that's what makes his T-Hot.

Yeah, he might not be that.

He might not have did it.

They're killing one of these athlete dudes now because they caught him in Vegas

on the party bus and they let like 20 white girls out.

Two of them.

It was

Cam

from the Saints.

Cam Jordan and

Tyler.

It was Cam and somebody else.

It don't matter.

We just in a funny place where you can't even let the white girls out the party bus.

Trey Murphy.

Troy Murphy.

Trey Murphy.

Trey Murphy.

Trey.

Trey Murphy.

Trey Trey.

Troy.

He's nice too.

Troy Murphy was nice.

Trey Murphy nice too.

He wasn't better than Troy.

Yes, he is.

He wasn't better than Troy Murphy.

I'm telling you, Troy.

Trey Murphy's the big white boy.

I know he is, nigga.

He went to know that he was.

Now, Trey Murphy's real nice.

Trey Murphy's tough.

Trey Murphy's real nice.

But

I just think that his view is just skewed based on his experiences.

Like when them niggas have been rich at a young age, they might think every girl in the world want their money.

And then they looking at girls as sexual conquests or sexual toys.

And so now you

placing everything on a sexual relationship.

And if you look at women in that light, I don't expect you to understand none of this marriage

or want to be married.

Exactly.

Because you can get that from anywhere, anytime, any place without having to do that.

And you're looking at him.

And the other side of the thing, yeah.

And the other side, he said his moms was never married.

So I didn't even see it in my household.

That was also exciting.

Because his mom didn't get married until she was 70.

I never saw it coming up.

It was huge.

And now I'm out here on my own.

I'm rich, like you said.

That's the part that I thought was sick.

No, that's not true.

That's the part that I thought was sick.

That's huge.

And our demo.

Absolutely.

That's really, really big.

Niggas think that's normal to be a nigga.

Single motherhood is really, really big.

And so we don't necessarily see the importance of marriages because we've never been around a marriage or just a fruitful man and woman relationship.

Not all of that.

I was about to say, not even marriage.

Not all of us.

Well, that's why I'm saying it's sick.

You don't know.

Why?

Because had he had a conversation with his mom and asked him and asked her, you know, what would you have preferred struggling as a single mom, raising us on our fucking own, or would you have preferred to be in a loving marriage with a supportive partner who could raise us together?

I think she would have gone with the latter.

But that has nothing to do with what he saw as a boy growing up.

I understand that.

I've never had that conversation with my mother.

Me neither.

He's single waiting.

He's a single parent kid.

He's never had that conversation with me.

What I'm saying is it would behoove him to have had that conversation.

Yeah, I'm with Mel.

45 and 50 and 55.

We're talking about like adult, adult, real adult people now.

I think that you're too old for the, hey, this is what I saw growing up, so these are my views.

At some point, you have to come up with your own fucking views.

True.

I'm not disagreeing with you.

However, what I so to say, but wait, let me finish.

So to say that you pleased with your mom being alone or not finding the one that she deemed appropriate for marriage until 70 years old is sick.

If you spoke to your mom,

he's saying what he said.

But what he's saying is she didn't get married to 70, which is why he's saying it's for old people.

She got married to have somebody by her side to ride it out.

That's what he was saying.

So that's what he was saying.

He's like, oh, so for me, marriage just means

nobody else.

Comprehension is great.

Do you think I'm under the guise of his mother, I'm with Mel.

His mother may have wanted some company before she was 70 years old.

I think companionship is 100%.

And if you recognize that, then your mom not being married till 70 shouldn't reinforce your thinking of marriage is only for old people.

But it should say the opposite.

That's what you're saying.

It should say the exact opposite.

And if your mom met a nigga that she felt appropriate for marriage and he was in the house a little more or around you a little more,

no telling how that would affect your thinking today.

That's what we say.

I just think at 50 and 50, that's exactly what we're saying.

We're saying that if he grew up with a man and a woman in a household and his mother had a man, it would have affected his outlook on relationships and how he sees the world.

Let me finish.

Where Samani

is different.

So what?

No, we're really not.

Because if

he had a man in his household, his whole outlook and his whole view on relationships could potentially be different.

He looks at it that way based on the environment he grew up in, an environment he was introduced to at 17, 18 years old, which is being an all-American athlete and all of the things that come along with that.

Y'all are repeating everything I said.

I said it first.

Then how do you get to, yes, marriage is only for old people?

I'm sorry.

Let me just say this.

And then you clear it up.

It's almost like he stated it to say she waited until she was 70 with intention to wait rather than that was a desire that he never knew she had maybe the majority of her life and it never happened for her.

And I mean, my views on this, I've had this talk with my mom.

I've spoken to my mom about marriage, the lack of marriage, when you was married, how you felt about it, getting older without somebody, wanting somebody to be there.

I've had these talks.

I don't think that nobody is signing their mom up to fucking live life a certain way and then at 70, at your later years, meet somebody and then yada yada yada, and we're going to paint that as the fucking party city.

That ain't party city.

If you witnessed that, then why the fuck would you get on a platform talking like it's party city?

I just don't understand that part.

If y'all do, that's great.

I disagree with the nigga, so I think

that's crazy.

So I disagree with him too, but I understand why he may think like that.

Can I ask y'all something?

Why haven't or why wouldn't you have that conversation with your mom?

I have no idea.

Y'all got the kind of moms that had that conversation.

My mom don't talk about stuff.

Yeah, me and my mom talk about a lot of shit, but I don't need to talk about it.

I mean, if you're able to, I'm not.

No, no, I'm saying some parents, some women don't like to talk about their experience.

I mean, in the sense of like, my mom don't talk about bad experiences.

She don't talk about

life.

I don't even need the conversation.

This is a rumor.

Yeah.

Personally, I don't need it.

I saw it.

I was there.

I saw my mom's being with the wrong person.

And this is what she will say to this day.

Like, my mom's not married now.

My mother was married for 20 years to the wrong person and eventually got divorced.

And she's like, now I value my peace over anything else.

I would much rather be alone than go through what I went through before with the wrong person.

So I get that.

That's true.

But I watched the struggle going on.

I think that.

So it's like, I see.

I don't have to say that.

See, that's

even that right there.

Even that right there.

There's a value in that.

So let's just say Ice hypothetically watched his mother be married to the wrong man for 20, 30 years.

Ice could be dead set against marriage based on just viewing that.

Everything in all of our environments shape how we see the world.

That is is true.

That's a possibility for him.

But to Joe's point, but to Joe's point, when you are an adult, adult, adult 40, 45, 50, you now have the responsibility to challenge those long-held beliefs and maybe go to therapy to kind of like fix the way you're thinking.

And the reason why I said something about him having a conversation with his mom is because I know something about this.

It took me a long time to see my mom outside of just being my mother.

You know, just like unconditionally love me, I'm your child.

And that's how I saw the relationship.

I never bothered to ask the woman any questions about who she was outside of me until it was almost too late and that's something that I always encourage people to do and it would behoove him to have that conversation with his mom because it might change his skewed view right now like that's the point that I'm making unless unless unless his mom was Paul Pierce's mom was just happy all those 30 40 years You know what I mean?

She could have been, Mr.

Earl could have been coming down laying pipe and

she could have had a great life experience and just decide.

But part of that is because he's rich.

Yeah.

Wham.

And frankly, she don't need a 70-year-old man marriage right now, 70 to be taken care of.

No, you might need it now.

You might need it now.

You might need it now because the money doesn't play as big of a part in your life as when you start to get older.

But when you 50, 60 running around, my son got $100, $200 million,

I might not need the things that, or the securities that a ton of

mother brings.

Yeah, his whole, whole so to that point his whole his whole understanding is skewed by a whole bunch of stuff that's not replicable like true nobody very few people are gonna have his life and his opportunity and his access and i so i hope a bunch of men

might just be unmarriable that's possible yeah could be that like the same way we talk about women that are of a certain age that may have missed the boat because it was too many options or they was playing around or why it won't apply for men this nigga might have been unmarriable for the peak

The prime years of him where some of the women he wanted didn't want him because he was on fuck shit some of that fuck shit you can still hear in his verbiage

and the good women are out of here So now you just left with this like Mel said the fucking what did you call it earlier the feast of the whatever you call it some nasty shit out there in the single streets the dumpster fire

and if and if you there then yes These are your views.

But tell us, yo, these are my views because I'm stuck out here in a dumpster fire and I didn't find nobody that saw saw the value in me and I refused to do the work so somebody would find the value in me.

Say that.

That could be true.

Very much so.

I mean,

it's understood that there is going to be,

I'm not disagreeing with any of that.

I believe all of that to be true.

And again, I'm just basing it on the environment that this guy grew up in.

Nigga, I'm rich.

I'm living in Boston.

I'm the man in Boston.

It's mad, single, bad chicks in Boston.

I don't want to settle down with none of them because I'm selfish and I'm I'm running around.

Rich niggas got to stop doing that.

That shit is

lonely,

dark,

sad.

And guess when you realize

depressing,

dangerous, dangerous words.

Risky road

most nights.

Most nights.

I'm not talking about the night that you went to the club and Vanessa Del Rio was in there with a free cousin and they both sucked your dick all night long.

I'm not talking about the night that you went out and had the time, the

timiest of times.

No, I'm just saying.

When I think about my single days, four nights a week, five nights a week, you in the house by yourself, and when you come home from the club, the club be cool.

And when you come home from the club, until that next, especially if you got some money, nigga, that next day, you just sitting in the house doing nothing because you're self-employed until nine o'clock at night.

You know, when nine o'clock at night come, nigga start hitting your phone.

Yo, what you doing?

Yo, such and such popping on Wednesday.

And you repeat the cycle.

Nigga, we used to be in the greenhouse four and five nights a week.

You just be repeating the cycle.

I'm not saying that.

I'm telling you that the environment.

And in repeating of the cycle, because it gets deep, at some point, you niggas with money go home and you have everything you want there.

And that high is gone now.

True.

There is nothing that you could go out and buy that you didn't buy, that you didn't purchase.

So now that euphoric feeling got to come from doing something nice for somebody else.

That was what Will Smith said a couple months ago where he was like, yo, I bought everything I could buy.

True.

So now.

He smoked that interview and I agree with everything.

Everything that he said.

He's like, so now you have to find out how to be happy internally.

True.

Yeah.

And a lot of niggas don't even want to look inside.

They can't look in the mirror, let alone look outside.

You know how many times in my single days when I had a couple dollars to spare, you just wanted to buy fly pair boots for a lady, but there was no lady.

Because

you single thinking about, yo,

you see a banging ass location come across your thing.

You know, I'm a travel dude.

So you single, you see this dope ass location, and you like, damn, I wonder who I could go there with.

I wonder somebody I could take there with.

Not no jump off bitch that I'm just fucking.

Somebody that I like and I want to spend time experience.

My nigga, when you go on vacations, I don't know about anybody else.

When you go on vacations, it separates who you like from who you like.

You in that room for six days, seven days, four days, whatever the fucking duration of time is.

You sitting in that room.

It ain't no, she got to go home.

Mm-hmm.

You don't have no time off from this girl.

You ain't going to work tomorrow.

Y'all in this room for four days by yourself, 24-7, y'all.

And if you don't like this bitch and you just looking at her like a piece of ass, that shit is whack.

That shit going to wear off quick.

Ain't no sunset.

You don't care about no sunsetting with Keisha.

Tie your back, get her dusty.

You know what I'm saying?

You don't nut it as much as you could nut.

Yeah, and at some point, pardon me, at some point, your brain and your eyes could fuck more than you can, too.

True indeed.

1,000%.

1,000%.

But good luck to Paul Pierce.

Whatever works.

Listen, I'm in my to each its own era in life.

I'm trying my best not to judge most of y'all out there.

Whatever y'all want to do, totally fine with me.

Everybody got to do what's best for them with their brief time on earth.

Whatever that is that makes you happy.

Judging is fun.

I love the judge.

I like the judgment.

You know, that's what another thing a wife is good for.

Yes.

Take all your judgment shit off.

What?

You know who I'm judging right now?

Please.

Larza Pippen.

No, no, I'm sorry.

I'm not judging Larza Pippen.

I'm judging Larzar.

You later on.

Jeff Kobe?

Yes.

I'm judging him.

Wow.

You're judging who?

The dude is marrying Larza Pippens.

Who?

Jeff Kobe.

Jeff Kobe.

That's her new boyfriend.

Shocked to know, former basketball player.

No, who announced that they're getting married in November.

Okay, tell me more.

Why you feel bad for Jeff Kobe?

He found the person he loved.

I have so.

I could be wrong.

When people demonstrate a certain pattern.

Oh, yeah, you're wrong.

I'll go ahead.

I might be.

I might be.

I'm open to this.

I want you to tell me how I am.

Larza Pippen seems like somebody who's who's there for the moment.

She seems like an opportunist, and she seems like she's obsessed with young basketball players.

I don't see this lasting.

And I feel like for, and I don't get what draws a 30-year, was he 30?

He's 31.

31.

A 31-year-old man today.

Again.

And she's 50.

Do what you want.

If you want to marry a 50-year-old woman, that's fine.

It's not her age.

It's the fact that she's got a pattern and a type.

And she seems like an opportunist to me.

And I could be wrong.

Do you think opportunists don't get married?

Yeah, they do.

They do.

I'm just saying, I'm I'm judging them because I'm like, bro,

you don't see the play.

You know what I mean?

I watch her get married.

I watch her do the reality shows.

It's like she's making money off the marriages, off the relationships.

And what makes you think that he doesn't see the play?

That's what I was going to say.

He might see me.

School me play.

School me.

That's what I'm saying.

Some niggas see the play and just be all right with the shit.

Some niggas know the play, see the play, and fuck it.

All right.

I'm here for the ride, too.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's a good point.

And if he know that and it's signed to that, then yeah, you're not a victim.

You're a volunteer at that point.

That's a great point.

I assume everybody's being earnest.

So I always

how do you feel about Brittany Renner and Kevin Gates' marriage or alleged marriage?

I haven't thought about it.

I'm fascinated by it.

Think about it.

I'm fascinated by it.

I want to see if there are parallels for you.

I think the difference, and again, I could be wrong.

She's been on the internet.

There's a pattern of behavior.

But she seems to have interrupted her pattern and made like a very, a very like stark, like, look, I'm changing my life.

I'm going to be somebody else.

Dark Lamont Hill.

Again, I could be wrong.

I'm just saying, I'm a sucker.

I'm starting by saying, saying I believe people will be earnest.

And she may.

I'm not calling your name saying that that's not true.

I'm saying that most times when these women get married, they've shown that to the person that they're marrying.

Not to say that it's true or not.

Like whatever Britney showed Kevin Gates, as far as I'm turning my life around, I'm willing to adopt this new yada, yada, yada, yada.

I don't know what Larson Pittman is kicking in this guy's ear.

She might be saying, I'm going to turn my life over to God now.

And I'm not saying this about Britney Renner, because I don't know this to be true about her, but sometimes also women look at that clock.

Like, she's, again, I'm not saying she's old or anything, but they start to realize, yo, it's all like what I was doing being an it girl.

Yeah.

That time might have passed me a little bit.

It's a whole new crop out there that's running around it.

So

it's almost settled down time.

Let me find something that a little bit more stable now.

I can't run the life that I used to, or I get to that point, like Joe was just talking about, where I am,

quote unquote, an unmarriable because I bullshit it all this time.

But now don't nobody want to take me serious.

You've convinced me.

Yeah.

You convinced me to not be so skeptical.

That's fair.

Yeah.

And then

there's plenty of women that, there's plenty of women that find their identity in whatever their role is in their partner's life

also.

So, right?

Like, who am I to say that Britney is on bullshit?

She met somebody.

This is his belief system and his religion, and yada, yada, yada.

She's rocking with that.

Niggas can't come and say, listen, for weeks now, I've been wanting to come and talk about all of the, I can't talk about it, but the new women that are turning faith and covering up and just, it's a lot, there's a lot of being converted.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Oh,

it's a wave.

It's a wave happening currently.

What do you think the wave is?

But who am I?

Converted to Islam?

Yes.

Dope.

Women that

live that life.

Who am I to come say there's nothing I can say?

I think that's

at some point.

You look at yourself in the mirror every day, Mark,

and you want to change.

You want to change it.

Whether it's

converting or just following God, you want to change your life.

Some of them just look at it like, yo, what I've been doing ain't working.

It ain't like if you keep doing the same thing over and over, you're getting the same results.

She's like, yo.

No, it worked.

It's not working for the long term, for what they want.

No, it may not work internally, but it may work.

I mean, instant gratification is a thing.

Yeah, until it stops.

Until it stops.

Until you get 77 pocketbooks, until you have every car that you could drive, until you've been to every restaurant, until you have all of these material items, and none of that shit, when you go home at night and lay down on that pillow, makes you happy.

You still feel empty inside.

So now I got to look for something different.

And I agree with you on that because there's a lot of people.

That's who make you feel better?

The post office nigga that you shitted on for the last 30 years.

I agree with you.

There's some people that I know personally.

But Larson got her a baller.

He ain't that.

go look at his career he his her net worth might be higher than his probably is i mean especially with yeah is he a current player former former

played overseas and like yeah yeah no yeah no i mean he ain't no scotty pippen or or or michael jordan once removed but i i i think for me part of it might just be my reality show meter you know what i mean when i when i'm around her i just read her i read everything as a setup for something else but what they were saying when you walked out was like there's also the possibility he's in on it that he's not a sucker but he's that he's going with the play too like maybe he knows exactly what what he's walking into and he's okay with it.

And if that's the case, go for it.

Chill, chill, man.

It could be.

You can't do that.

You can't do that to Larsa, man.

Larsa rubbed me the wrong way, man.

Well, yeah.

Me too.

Bizarre.

But as a man, might be rubbing them, though.

As a man, she probably is.

Every day on the internet, as a man, you have to find the restraint.

to not do that, right?

Yeah.

Like, do what?

Too many of us know too many women.

What's that, though?

For years.

What Mark just did with Larsa.

Like I'm saying, on the internet,

you're going to see the lady that you knew for the last 25, 20, 15, 10 years, and you know her carfax

just based off how she's been moving out there.

And then one day, she gonna bop into a nigga and they gonna profess they love and be married.

You have to fight the urge to say, Damn, nigga, like you marrying that.

This bitch done been in the street and fucking him and this and that.

You can't like we can't.

You know why niggas don't, though?

Because

we learned that niggas don't care either.

Well, not just that, but we've seen what happens when that goes its separate ways, and she's right back to what she was doing.

Two things.

Like, you said it's almost like

you still that.

Yeah, you can't do that.

It's like you just put on pause for a minute.

Like, if you see a slide fell in love or getting married or,

yeah, you got to just kind of.

Wish him the best.

Yeah.

Maybe she.

Can't rain on anybody's parade.

If she married a dude from the post office, to use Ish's example, I would probably be more inclined to be like, okay, she's seven.

I mean, she might have a physical type, though.

That's true.

Her physical type could be tall,

athletic built.

I think niggas always find empathy when she's dating a nigga from the post office.

Because it seems more genuine.

But to who?

To the masses, the people that are judging.

And the message for anybody out there is not to live your life.

based on what the masses think about it.

True.

You mean that's fair?

Yeah.

Especially when it comes to your love,

who fills you up, who makes you feel good, who's sucking your dick, who's rubbing you down, massaging the C C B D oil, all that good shit.

Yeah, mind your business.

I don't give a fuck what you think.

Hey, like I used to say to niggas back in the day, long, long, long, long time ago, hey, hey, nigga, if you had it and you see me with it, nigga, you should be applauding.

You know what I'm going to do?

I'm having a slice.

And if you still watching, I assume that you had a slice too.

I missed that slice.

If you you're still watching, you missed that slice.

That's the point.

If you're still watching, you missed that slice.

So don't come telling me, oh, yo, she used to be in the happies.

Yo, she used to be behind the dumpster with Ryra.

Guess what?

I cleaned all that up.

Hey, I hosed it down.

I put that thing right in the dog bath.

Little Purel dog.

Come on now.

Lights on.

Got the dog trying to get him strong.

Got the dog turning on.

Hey, I sent that thing to the hair salon, the nail salon,

the refurbished pussy salon, and every other salon I could find, Cat Daddy.

That is a rescue dog now.

Don't even look this up.

Whatever you had,

it should be a little different.

Yeah, different hairstyles.

I don't know that dog.

Different for breeds.

Them rescue dogs be loyal to.

Come on, now.

They hated where they was at.

They hated that last home.

Come on, now.

Anywho.

That's nasty.

I don't care.

That's nasty.

I don't care, nigga.

I'll say rescue dog, nigga, but yeah.

Well, you know what I'm saying?

Not a rescue dog.

Clean them up.

Clean it up.

I'm just trying to help you.

Rescue bitches.

Yeah.

We know them.

Rescue bitches.

They usually meet niggas like you and you clean them up, man.

I cleanse them up, nigga.

Do they end up going back to the other nigga?

Oh, I don't know.

I don't keep tabs when I'm done.

Oh, you don't care about that?

I don't care what you do when I'm done.

Done, it's done.

It's done.

And you asked me about a life I don't even remember, man.

I've been my girl six years.

I'm only looking forward.

I'm only looking forward.

I don't even remember these times that we speak about.

These are the times we all wish for.

I don't remember.

I'm sorry.

That's what I respect about you.

Holy man.

That's what I respect about this room.

No, for real, everybody.

I don't know if I could do this pod with a bunch of single niggas.

Come on, man.

We're not doing this.

Serious.

I don't know.

Yeah, I know.

God damn it.

Anyway, all right, moving on.

So, which of our Newark residents is going to

tell us about this Newark airport shit?

I was just looking at it.

It's freeze.

I mean,

we talked about it a little bit, but this shit is bad.

No, it's expanded since we were talking about it.

It's much more.

It was just like, oh, this shit's fucked up over there.

The New York Times wrote an article on it.

That's it.

It just went public.

That's all.

No, no, it just went public.

When we spoke about it, it was construction, and that was it.

I told you that.

I said it wasn't public.

That wasn't construction.

I said that from the rip.

It wasn't construction.

Because construction is easily remedied.

All right, be clear.

There is construction.

True.

Okay.

But that ain't the reason for the shit.

That's my back.

That might be what they telling y'all is the reason for this shit.

My nigga, if you own one of the biggest or most important, not biggest, but one of the most important airports in the country, international airports, in the country, or maybe in the nation to ISIS Point.

My nigga, if construction is your issue, you have on the clock niggas working around a construction issue to remedy it.

Right.

Yeah, LAX has been under construction for God knows how long, and it has not stopped, you know, their

family.

I was flying out.

They told us, yo, it's only one lane open.

Y'all are number 39.

My plane was leaving at six.

Nigga, I left at almost nine o'clock.

That's not construction.

That's not construction.

That's short staff.

And so a lot of the staffing issues they are saying, because they said that the FAA that regulates Nork is out of Philly.

Didn't they just fire a whole bunch of didn't they?

Wham.

There you go.

Trump cut everything?

There you go.

Trump, yeah.

You're covered.

So that's.

Be clear.

So

they said it's a combination of things.

I think nobody really has the balls to blame it on him.

Yeah.

That's what I really think.

I think nobody has the balls to blame it on their administration for fear of losing a job or being found out.

And so now they blaming it on a multitude of things, construction, layoffs etc etc like if it's only one lane open in the airport that's scary bro i left i left on one day they hit us with the one one lane situation back planes up they're talking about one excuse me not one lane one runway yeah runway to accommodate to accommodate all flights

incoming and outgoing one runway oh i didn't know that for an international for for nork international airport i didn't know that that's already crazy that's insane but what was interesting to me is on the return they told us we were delayed because of an issue in North, but they never said it was because of construction.

They said it's windy.

It's windy.

It's windy conditions.

So

it seems like you're giving a bunch of different reasons to just say something.

Or anything that is inapplicable at the time.

So two weeks ago, three weeks ago, I went to Virginia.

That Monday I was coming home.

They said it was the rain.

Right?

So they postponed my flight.

I flew out Tuesday morning.

I came straight to the podcast.

Remember?

Boom.

This Sunday, when I was leaving, they said it was the wind to ISIS Point.

They said it was windy in New Jersey.

Okay.

Right?

I'm like, yo, my nigga, it's been windy since we was kids.

What the fuck are we talking about?

So is it

the elements?

Is it construction?

My flight was leaving Sunday, this Sunday.

It was supposed to be at 6.20.

The second I returned the car, got to the gate, they said 9.40.

While I'm sitting there negotiating, they said, because I was trying to find another airline, they said 11.05.

Yeah, I took my dumbass downstairs, got me another rental car, and drove home all the way home.

That flight did leave at 11:05, and it got to

something after 11.

It got here at like one o'clock, which means the runways cleared up.

It didn't get less windy, the runways cleared up, which allowed for more traffic to come through.

And that's really what happened.

And not only that, they're also diverting flights to other areas.

Like some people who are saying Levi to LaGuardia now.

Yeah, but some, exactly.

I encourage anybody listening: if you can avoid EWR, Newark Airport, till the end of June.

Mid-June is when they say,

Corey, they said July.

They said July.

Yeah, they was saying July.

The middle of July.

Man, if you could avoid New Jersey, whatever, and just do it.

Mark, watch it, fuck it.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

If the trains don't work, you get shanked in the fucking train station.

Mail, you be at the train station, you know.

The fucking air

shot.

When she said she's

penned station.

No, you you said you go all the time.

This nigga act like Philly is fucking guns and breaks.

No, he acts like he didn't just move right to New Jersey.

Enough, enough.

He might have to get down.

No, he might have did that for love.

Like Philly ain't motherfucking sunshine and rainbows.

Philly is much better in this hell.

If you can avoid EWR until

houses.

The end of June.

Pardon me.

Early July,

I recommend you do so.

I'm supposed to be flying off to Boston soon, and and I'm going to do JFK or LaGuardia.

I'm like, LaGuardia is nice, Ken.

LaGuardia is nice now.

They cleaned up.

They hosed her down.

Yeah.

LaGuardia looked nice.

You can even shop in that motherfucking mouse.

But LaGuardia and JFK are really nice.

Oh, JFK always looks good for me.

I just don't like the distance for JFK.

I don't like either one of them shits.

I ain't trying to go out to fucking JFK or something.

I'll go to Portland first.

JFK before they redid it.

I remember.

That's true.

They just redid it first, and then LaGuardia took ages for them to redo.

And then they did redo some of Newark.

It's a shame that Newark is going through.

I was about to say

that.

It's not better than Newark.

It's amazing.

Here it is, gorgeous.

Well, neither one of them fucking airports better than Newark.

That's not true.

Well, Newark, you got hours of shop because your plane ain't never going to leave.

So

you get a whole meal.

I got JFK as a much better airport than Newark.

It's a much better airport than Newark.

It got better shops.

By far.

By far.

Everything about JFK is better than Newark.

I've fought that shit once.

It's just far.

I don't know.

I just don't like going to the store.

It's just Boston.

I'm not going there.

Like I said, I'll go to the United States.

Newark is the United hub.

You can't even catch some of the fly flights from Newark.

Exactly.

You're like, shit.

I'm not doing this too much.

United is the hub.

Atlanta got like Delta.

You know what I mean?

Philly got America.

Y'all got United.

Come on.

That's a government thing.

Don't put that on us.

No, I'm waiting to hear the problem with that.

Yeah, I don't understand the problem.

I like that.

I like that.

A lot of the fly city locations you got connect and shit.

It's fine.

It's a fine airport.

I just find living in Jersey, y'all like the armpit of the East Coast.

If you had to pick up

some shit, he'd be trolling.

Or he might be trolling.

I'm dead ass.

No, I'm dead ass.

I would take Delta if I had to pick up some.

You would definitely take Delta.

You would probably take a couple more before you said United as your preferred hub.

Yeah.

Why?

Oh, that's all.

Yeah.

But then again, I'm

on y'all level.

Yeah.

I'm United all day.

I like United, too.

That's on brand for you.

Sure.

Yeah, yeah.

Whatever that means.

No, you're talking about me.

No, you said me.

No, you're talking about me.

You said that's on brand for me.

But you got some of that ice shit in you, too.

So both of y'all now.

I don't know what that means.

Speaking of shit that Trump's fucking up for the country, does anybody have any thoughts or insight on this movie tariff, foreign movie tariff?

Man,

why Donald Trump?

100% tariff on all foreign movies because Hollywood is struggling.

That's what he said.

And we supposed to be making our own movies and we watching other people's movies and they bringing their movies into the country.

Nigga, this shit is on like what?

Help me.

Do we watch that many of other people's movies?

I'm not a movie.

No, it's not that.

He's talking about filming.

He's talking about filming outside of the country.

Oh, that's true.

That's what you mean.

Like, like, Sinners was filmed in Canada, right?

Or Australia, excuse me.

Wow, it's the same thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Australia.

It might as well be.

I know.

Yeah, I only know, because at the end of the credits, I remember looking and being like, oh, shit, that shit wasn't this, you know, because it's cheaper, it's easier.

Yeah.

I guess, I mean, you got a point.

I just don't know if that's the right solution.

I tend to just my default is to say that ain't the right answer, but I don't know.

It's not the right solution.

It's just.

All you're going to do is make movie ticket prices go up.

There's also just like certain

shit that you can't find in America.

I mean, America's vast and has a bunch of people.

You want to shoot Game of Thrones and Watts.

Right.

Talking about my nigga, what the fuck is that?

Any mission impossible.

Yeah, any mission impossible.

Anyone.

All over the world.

All of the bonds.

Yo, dog, this shit just goes back to the whole factories and all the other shit.

No, he's no.

What he's trying to do is he's trying to punish Hollywood because it's primarily liberal and he has always been

excluded from the cool kids table.

LA and New York.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Don't fuck with him.

Yeah.

So that's it.

That's it.

He's just trying to punish the people that just don't fuck with him and have never, you know, invited him into the fold.

I think he's just waking up in the morning and seeing some shishy being like that.

I think he just keeps trying to make distractions to go against from the real shit he's lacking,

which is real politics.

Yeah.

I think we're going to make a diversion.

We're going to throw something up in the air, make it blow up.

It's going to distract the people.

And we're not really doing the work that needs to be done beneath the scenes.

Well, did you.

Since we talked about it.

Back to the escape.

Oh, Oh, oh.

All right, never mind.

No, go ahead.

I'm talking about it.

No, I was just saying, he also announced, and I want to know your thoughts on this, he's talking about getting rid of Section 8

and saying that they're going to put a cap for able-bodied adults to two years.

Okay.

Seriously?

Yeah.

You're going to get rid of Section 8 at the same time, half of the country, not half of the country, but a large portion of the country are losing their employment.

Yeah.

How's that work?

And we at record house prices.

How's that work for the economy that you're going to rescue?

Oh, he doesn't give a fuck.

I think it goes right back to what you said.

He's just sending signals to his base just to distract you.

Just talk.

But

this is the real killer.

No, yo, but this is the real killer.

A huge part of Donald Trump's base is Section 8ers.

We keep looking at it like, yo, it's just the liberal outside states.

No, a lot of Donald Trump's base in the inner America, they poor white people.

Yes.

But they're bad.

That are on Section 8, my nigga.

So when you drop Section 8, 8, what happens to them?

Now Billy in the trailer, he fucked up.

What are you talking about?

It's fun backfire, my nigga.

And they don't got jobs out here.

This nigga is crazy.

What am I saying?

That's wrong.

Can't do that.

Hey, Flip.

You sound good.

You sound good, boy.

Why?

Yo.

Yo,

please.

No one here has a Thunderbolts review.

I saw it, and I hated it.

And they killed me.

You saw the movie?

Yeah, I saw it.

It's not Thunderbolts.

It's the new Avengers.

It's the new.

I know they changed the billboards.

That's what they're doing.

That's part of their marketing.

But that's not the name of the movie.

Well, the movie was all part of the marketing.

The movie was always Thunderbolts.

If you ever look, it had an asterisk next to it.

Spoiler alert.

At the end of the movie, they are announced as the new Avengers, and the new title comes up.

And couple days, a day or so after the movies come out, they're up there ripping off Thunderbolts and now putting the new Avengers up there.

Really?

Oh, that's disgusting.

Marvel must have a new owner.

Where's Stan Lee?

Rest in peace.

He dies.

Where is Stanley when you're named?

You know what?

The movie.

Thunderbolts are not the New Avengers.

I don't care how many people.

I agree.

But I'm not going to get...

I just did not like

the way the trailer portrayed who the

protagonist was in the movie.

They didn't really show it.

So it was kind of like, oh, shit, this motherfucker's powerful as hell.

He's this, he's this.

He's this.

Again, I don't follow the comics.

I don't care.

I am an MCU viewer.

I just follow the movies.

It was a new adventures in the comic books.

No, I'm not saying nothing about that.

I'm talking about the movie itself, though.

It felt like a letdown.

Like, once you found out, okay, this is who these niggas is fighting, and this is how y'all beat this nigga.

Are you serious?

So it wasn't well wrong.

Oh, wait, so it's the, so they're the good guys.

You're talking about the suicide squad, but that's what I was going to say.

It looks like suicide squad, but that's the suicide squad was bad.

But that's the antagonist.

I don't want to spoil it.

So it wasn't well written.

No, rather than protagonist, it's the antagonist.

The evil.

Oh, excuse me.

I said the protagonist is pardon me, pardon me.

Mel knows the words, not me.

But the evil, the evil.

Yeah, it was, I was like, really?

I'm cool.

It didn't look like

I'm so cool on Thunderbolts.

Because I know my mom and her friend group absolutely love our TV and movie recommendations on this podcast.

I started

Your Friends and Neighbors.

Oh, with John Hamm on

Apple.

Love it.

It's on my list to start.

Absolutely love it.

There's only five episodes available.

This drops episodically.

I want to say on Fridays, what a great show.

What's it called?

I don't want to spoil it.

Your friends and neighbors.

Your friends and neighbors.

Apple?

What is it about?

I'm a man that go broke and

super, super rich.

Yeah.

Yeah, I want to see it.

Oh, that's where I'm going.

And then he starts robbing like his neighbors.

His neighbors.

Someone's bigger than that, right?

John Hamm.

John Hamm.

I heard that.

I love him.

Mr.

Me too.

I absolutely love him.

But it's a great show.

Madman.

If you haven't seen it, please check it out on Apple TV.

This is not an ad.

It's just a really good show.

You were saying, Mark?

I was going a whole different direction.

No, good.

We didn't talk about Diddy.

The Diddy trial opened up this week.

Well, just jury selection right now.

No, but what I thought was interesting about the jury selection was how they're deciding, how they're getting rid of people.

Did you see this?

They interviewed 150 people.

They gave them all a questionnaire.

And it's the normal Voir Deer process.

They're trying to get through to see

you can be impartial,

to see if you've had bad experiences, whether you've been experiencing sexual assault, et cetera.

But then they gave them a list of celebrities that they had to know or not know.

And the list was interesting.

They asked them if they knew Michael B.

Jordan.

They asked them if they knew who Kanye West was.

They asked them if they knew who Mike Myers was.

They asked them if they knew who Kid Cuddy was.

I thought the list was interesting.

One, it's a window into maybe maybe whose name is going to come up in trial.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The Mike Myers thing was kind of a bit of a red herring for me.

I was like, I don't know that Mike Myers' name won't come up in trial.

Like, we don't know.

Right.

I don't know.

I was just surprised.

I wasn't expecting, you know, Wayne's world.

Well, Puff's fucking network is, we don't know who might pop up in this motherfucker.

But I was also thinking, like, who would be in a jury pool that has never

heard of Kanye West?

I don't know if I want a jury pool that doesn't know who Kanye West or Mike Myers is.

I think that's a test, though.

It's a tactic.

It's a test, too, because in the jury selection process you should be removed from the story.

Right.

Right?

Because if you watch the story on the news like during the OJ trial, they told them don't turn the TVs on.

Yeah.

Like you're not supposed to have any information already or have heard of anything.

So if you, Kanye West comes across your algorithm, if Kid Cuddy comes across your algorithm, then more than likely Sean Combs has come across your algorithm and you might have already be impartial.

But I'm just saying, like, if you've never, if you're a juror and you've lived in America and never heard of Kanye and you've never heard of Mike Myers, you've never heard all these people.

I'm like, are you a normal person?

Like, I don't know if a normal person could go at this stage in 2025 and not know any of these people.

You think they're gonna find 12 people that not know any of those names?

That's what I'm saying.

I don't think that's possible.

I don't think it's possible.

I don't think it's possible.

I get your point to beat people being disconnected from the story, but I think this one in cases like OJ, where we're not even going to pretend you're disconnected from the story.

We just want to pretend.

We just want somebody who can be impartial despite knowing the story.

Or Kid Cuddy.

Like, if you bring King,

pardon me, Kid Cuddy into the the fold, you know the rumors are surrounding Puff and Kid Cuddy.

Right.

You get what I'm saying?

So all of those things, you know.

Ain't even a rumor because Cuddy said that shit.

We didn't say that.

Nah, I feel like.

Cuddy said that shit.

You know what I mean?

I ain't indicting a nigga.

I'm just saying that

you kind of want to try

and attempt.

Like, it's no grown-up person that really don't know who Sean Combs is, but you want to attempt in your best efforts to have it be

unbiased.

Yeah, I think unbiased is the goal.

I'd be skeptical of somebody.

If somebody told me they didn't know who Michael B.

B.

Jordan, Kanye West, Mike Myers was

lying.

Was there anybody else on the list other than those four?

There were a few.

Dawn from...

They raised Dawn from

Dirty Money and

Gannedy Kane, that's what I'm trying to do.

Who else was?

I'm trying to pull up the list now, but those are the big ones.

I have a question for you, Mark, when you finish.

Yeah, go ahead, bro.

What do you say to someone that the closer this trial comes, right, that actually starts to get nervous and feel bad for him, right?

Do they express that publicly, or do you feel like because they'll be judged, they have to internalize it?

What do you say to that?

Like, just feel bad, and now I'm nervous.

Now it's looking like he's about to go forever, and my relationship with him was this, regardless of what the people see.

Do you feel like that?

Are you talking about potential drawers, just people in general?

Just a person in general.

Like somebody who's connected to him, a friend of him?

Yeah, he's talking about like him.

Oh, God.

No, not me.

No, not you, but people like him.

I mean,

one of the people like you, nigga.

But I wouldn't have no problem saying that.

Oh, no, no.

I want him to answer, because

I want him to answer it, because I don't think you're going to answer the question, honestly.

Okay.

I think you're going to.

Pussy for the round.

Yeah, because you mastered that.

And I understand why.

I have to move like that.

But I want to know when you express that.

You think Mark has more empathy than me?

No, I just feel like it's hard to...

I feel like in the world that we live in today, it is hard to express that.

You would get judged for expressing

your concern for a person who might might have done bad.

And like, damn, I just hope everything works out.

Like, how does a person I think they should be honest about that?

I mean, I think.

Even if they get judged.

I mean, that's the risk of telling the truth, right?

I mean, you know, I work with people.

I do a lot of work with prisoners.

I've been working with prisoners for decades.

Some of them did the crimes.

I just think they got too much time.

Some of them I don't believe.

Some of them I believe are innocent.

Others I believe, like, you shouldn't get 30 years for doing X.

You know what I mean?

And it's tough to say when someone's been harmed,

you know,

yeah, he did it, but he still shouldn't get life you know so when it comes to diddy i think i don't think anybody's defending what they saw on tape that we know diddy did i think the question becomes for people for some people the people you're talking about is one is he has he done everything that he's accused of because once once the floodgates open you had thousands of people accusing

everything

he did some of that shit some of it i'm confident he didn't do right we don't know that's what the trial is for yeah um and then the second question is will the punishment fit the crime you know there's rumors that oh no it's not rumors he confirmed that they rejected the settlement.

Right?

I don't know what the settlement offer was.

I've heard five years.

I've heard other numbers.

I don't know what's true.

But that puff rejected the development.

That puff rejected the settlement.

Yeah, there's a plea deal on it.

I'm saying, I'm sorry.

I said settlement.

I mean plea.

I'm sorry.

They rejected the plea deal.

So we know that there is a number out there that's that's tangible that was offered.

For some people, the fact that he rejected that will take away their sympathy.

Like you had you had an opportunity to get a lower number.

Now if you get roofed, that's on you.

Unless you think you're innocent, right?

So all these things play out.

For me, it's going to come down to what's in the trial and what comes out.

I'm confident that Diddy did some of that shit, but I'm not confident at what the details are.

That's the answer to my question as far as the people.

I'm saying they should speak out and tell the truth.

Regardless.

Regardless.

I think that's always the right answer.

And I think we have to be more honest about that because we're in a culture now where we only defend people who are innocent.

True.

And part of the criminal legal system and part of the structure of it, in my estimation, is not just to protect the innocent, but also to make sure that people who do bad things don't get excessive punishment.

That's why we don't have cruel and unusual punishment.

So we have to think about all those things.

And that means sometimes taking a tough position.

And I got burnt by that last week.

I was working with a brother who was locked up for 22 years for murder.

And I worked with him.

I mentored him.

I talked to him.

He's been home for two years.

He just got arrested last week for murdering somebody else.

I don't feel that I was wrong for.

That has to affect your part or the mom standing.

Desperate, man.

It's okay.

No, that's all right.

Anything you can do, you defend him.

What?

I didn't defend him.

But I want him to come home.

But, you know, because he was reformed, rehabilitated.

He became a journalist in prison.

You know, all these stuff.

Wow.

Right.

Yes.

That's something.

These are the things that he's saying.

You're talking about the brother.

There was a story recently.

Okay.

Last week.

Got it.

Yeah.

And

so those are the moments.

He came home and killed somebody else?

Allegedly, he's accused of it.

He's charged with it.

Yeah.

He's charged with it.

He got arrested last week.

I knew knew him well.

How did you feel when you saw that?

I was heartbroken.

I was heartbroken for the woman he allegedly killed.

I was heartbroken for all the people, all the prisoners who we work with to get rehabilitated and to get

and to get sentenced.

Because this set everybody back.

This sets everybody back.

When you fight for bail reform, when you fight for prison reform, it's hard, or when you fight for abolition,

it's hard to say that because they're always going to say, What about him?

Had he served his full sentence, or did he get some I think?

He did the whole thing.

He did not.

He did, they gave him the whole thing.

Okay.

He ate the whole thing.

And

now he's going back.

So, but all that to say, so for me, I understand the challenge of standing with people who are quote-unquote guilty.

Yes.

But that's all part of the process.

And with Diddy, we got this Cassie tape, which he fought to get

suppressed because they said it would prejudice the jury.

And I'm seeing mixed reports on that.

Like sometimes,

in some reports, they're saying they will allow that video evidence.

And in my recent reports, I'm saying they're saying that it's undecided.

And as of now, they will not yet.

So I'm uncertain of that.

I'll answer your question anyway, even though you look for Mark and answer.

Fuck you, bitch.

No, no, no, no, no.

I feel bad when I look at his kids.

Yeah, because when we ask you this question, I seen you, you got to remember what he wasn't here when the shit was first going on.

I'm going to be mindful of what I say.

You know, like, I seen you battle, in my opinion, your true feelings and

how you want to come off to the masses.

I seen that in real time.

And that's no disrespect to you.

You just have a job to do.

No, no, no, no, don't, don't paint it wrong.

I'm battling the person that I knew versus the person that people are saying they know.

Sorry,

that's what I'm saying.

Let me clear this.

Because it wasn't a battle with what I wanted to say and what I didn't say.

No, because when the first, when it first happened, especially when you've been to the party.

Hold on, wait, wait, wait.

When it first happened, everybody just didn't have that view of pump.

But listen, I don't give a fuck what they're saying about him.

Now,

the niggas, the best hostess, host,

host, hostess, depending on the night

that hip-hop has ever seen.

So

sometimes you want the truth, but sometimes we can't tell the truth.

You can say the truth anytime you want, and if it's too much truth, we'll edit it out.

All I'm saying is that I watch people in real time

have feelings,

and once the information came out, was

battling with those feelings internally.

Because then now, like you said earlier, like the person that I know and the person that the public knows,

it's an internal conflict and it's irresponsible for even me, for a person to come up here and say something and it comes insensitive to others who may have suffered.

So that's just a hard thing to deal with.

Me, I'll just go off on a ledge and I'll deal with the ramifications, but sometimes that's irresponsible.

And I appreciate you guys bringing me bringing it.

Now, hold on now.

You don't have to do all that.

You just don't have to do it.

But I also feel like...

And on the flip side of what you're saying, well, to add on to what you're saying, there's tons of people out there that believe he'll be back on the street shortly.

Yeah, you're right.

So, a lot of people are like, there's a bunch of people that,

yeah, I mean, there's some people that don't feel they have the strongest case against him.

And, you know, per the reports, they're saying he was in the court eight lawyers deep, eight lawyers strong.

The most recent lawyer is homeboy that hip-hop has crowned best lawyer in the universe.

Thug's lawyer, Brian Steele.

Was it Brian Steele or was it Drew?

It was Brian, Brian.

Either way, both of them, Crimp Della, Crimp, right?

So, if you got, if your money is long as strain smoking, it's just words, and you're sitting there with eight of the best attorneys in the universe, you're feeling good, and you feel like

you know

they said he said he was nervous.

He said that, yeah, he said that

he said he had reading glasses on.

He's now playing the game, you know what the game is.

I'm gonna appear to be

arrogant, nothing,

none of that stuff.

I think it's also okay to be

holding real quick because he's gonna make them, make the prosecution or the feds or whoever whoever this is

draw a very distinct line between the difference in

being a swinger and being a sex trafficker.

That's what it seems like from the reports.

Me even thinking about that, that does muddy it up a little bit.

Yeah.

Now, and let's muddy it up and what we're doing.

Muddy it up as in, it's going to be your job to have all facts, eyes dotted, like in the OJ case.

Like in the OJ case.

You dropped the ball ball on how y'all collected evidence, what evidence you got, how y'all handle things fucked it up.

Who cares if he did it or not?

He's putting the ball in their court to make sure everything that you have collecting the evidence says, I am a sex trafficker and sexual abuser versus I'm on some other

freak.

Yeah, some freaky wild shit.

And in addition to that.

It's a great defense.

Yeah, but in addition to that, apparently the phrase coercive control has been stricken.

It can't be used, which is

huge.

Yeah.

And he tried to use the drug defense, too.

That failed, right?

Because they were trying to

make it like that defense.

Yeah, that was horrible.

I didn't make that go back.

That was a mess.

But you got to throw it up there.

But you got to throw everything out there.

Right.

Because if you can establish, the idea was basically saying that

to get a criminal conviction, criminal conviction, you have to show that you had a criminal mind.

We call it a mensra, a criminal mind.

And his point was, I was so high

that I didn't have the intent to

a criminal act.

Exactly.

It was just fun to me.

It's an affirmative defense.

Like, I did it, but I did it because it's just just like that.

And I thought that everybody was a willing participant.

Right.

So they were like, yeah, fuck that.

Then he played the race car with the man act.

Saying basically that the man act has been used mainly against black men trained, you know, like Jack Johnson and all these people has been used to basically to criminalize black men for all kinds of shit, right?

It wasn't the most persuasive argument.

Jack Johnson, the boxer, the boxer, right?

Because he got a white woman and basically that, yeah.

I remember, yeah.

So then

he's establishing this third piece, which I think is the best argument, which is, look, I'm a freak ball, right?

Like, I do freaky shit.

I do wild shit.

And I do wild shit.

I'm rich.

So if you do freaky, wild shit with drugs and a lot of people, you're going to be traveling across the country.

We got escorts, we got this, we got that.

This wasn't sex trafficking.

This was just regular fucking.

And because the jury is supposed to invoke what they call the reasonable man standard, the idea of what would a reasonable person do under this situation, it's quite reasonable that a juror, even if they can't, even if they didn't live that life, could relate to it.

They assume that rich people do freaky, wild shit with the money.

So, I think that that actually might make a juror say, you know what?

Puffy's not a criminal.

He's just a freak.

Or

we got dialogue that says, yo, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I can't wait to do XYZ.

But you live in California and I live in Florida.

So when you got on that plane and me and you have a dialogue saying, I'm going to eat your ass out like Crab Bay,

get on the flight and you come over there and you did that.

I heard that.

That feels like real dialogue.

That's what I'm saying.

You didn't just make that one up.

Type Crab Bay in your phone right now.

Do it, sir.

I'm about to say, do a search.

Type crab in that nigga's phone.

What the fuck, man?

Come on, man.

You freaky.

I don't even eat crap.

Y'all niggas stupid.

You might already crack.

Whatever the dialogue.

Whatever the dialogue might have been.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, yo, dog, we've all, not for nothing,

had women come from other states maybe to visit us.

Yeah.

And if y'all got into some shit, then that could potentially go left.

Right.

And they're going to black.

That's what he means by you're going to blur that line.

Yeah, they're going to blur.

It's just interesting it took him that long to pick this as the defense.

That might have always been their go-to defense.

Again, you you throw everything out.

You throw the shit that's exculpatory first.

You throw out the shit that's going to make them say you didn't do it first, if you can.

And I'm not in a rush to release my defense to people that are about to prepare for the family.

That could prepare their own defense.

Yeah, no, I don't know.

I'm not doing that.

Yeah.

Just for the record, because I forgot everyone here.

What is everybody standing here?

Y'all feel he's going down.

Y'all feel he's coming out.

I think they're going to get him because they want to get him.

I think they're going to get him first.

I don't care about none of what the evidence.

They want to get him, so they're going to get him.

I don't think it's going to to miss i don't think it's going to be forever it's going to be a couple years five years maybe i think it's going to do seven

i think they'll do five to seven you say time serve no i ain't no time

to say time serve no time serve we're getting them

not we but they're they're getting them yeah i would like to know what that plea was i mean i know i won't but 10 to 19 10 to 15 come home in seven that's a good point Well, because, right, because the question is, what is the number that he would have said yes to?

They offer him three years, you take it, right?

After you've already done a year, so it had to be at least five, five, like you said, five to seven.

It depends on where your arrogance is.

I was just going to rest.

And it depends on who you're your what your what your team, what your law team is telling you to do.

Of these niggas that they are, thug lawyer was like, Yo, I didn't want him to take a piece of money.

I told him no, period, right now,

again, right?

Because that was not the feds.

Them niggas offered ASAP, what, 180 days?

Yeah, and we were and we was kicking his back in, like, why didn't he take that shit?

Six months or six months or some shit?

And he was like, No.

I did come in and apologize to him.

Yeah, me too.

I was absolutely wrong.

You get what I'm saying?

Shout out to Rocky again for his work last night.

Shout out to his everybody.

Like, dog, we came in here like, yo, fam, six months, nigga.

You take that.

And unfortunately, we don't.

Well, fortunately, we don't have the

lawyer teams that they got and the legal teams that they got saying, yo, we about to kick these niggas' asses.

And again, there's another side of that, bro.

We see niggas where the plea deal look like it's something that they should take.

They take it to trial and get roofed.

We see Tori.

We all swore Torrey was walking.

Tori was a walking.

I don't doubt it.

But

Tory bucked out.

Torrey's legal team was a little bit more than a moment.

Torrey bucked the fuck out.

And his legal team wasn't in that.

That's true.

That's true.

If his legal team was in the middle of the day, that nigga's legal team was not in the middle.

He got a buck the fuck out.

He told a bunch of missteps with Tori.

But

water under the bridge.

Exactly.

I remember somebody else, they offered him, it was like, yo, take 20.

And guess what?

And his lawyer wasn't them neither.

No, his lawyer.

Don't get me started.

His lawyer wasn't them neither.

I know what you're talking about.

His lawyer wasn't them.

His lawyer was playing the internet games and all that shit.

These niggas right here are professionals, bro.

Yeah, but these niggas coming in with $4,000 suits on, looking the part, playing the part.

But there is a world in which the jury looks at this dream team and it turns them off.

Could be.

There is a world where that happens.

There's a world where they say the common man can't get a fish shape.

Exactly, but this rich motherfucker can hire this, you know, eight lawyers with their $4,000 suits and he'll fuck you.

You know what I'm saying?

You're right.

I totally agree with that.

So we don't know what's going to happen.

But with Cassie being a witness for the prosecution, even if they don't have the video, just her witness testimony and her testimony alone is going to be really really really hard

I think her testimony is going to be pivotal but I oh I think that cross-exam is going to be pivotal I think that cross that's what I thought was going to be a monster you run the risk and I heard you do run some risks putting her up there

they said even with the tape even with the tape they said they got other tapes

yes they would have to have other tapes no and they said and there's other tapes it displays a whole different narrative well if i believe that puff is is is freaky boy camcorder man, then yeah, niggas got tapes.

I was recording.

So the same shit is some shit against me.

I got some shit that kind of proves what I'm saying as well.

There you go.

Again, muddy's the lines, like you said.

Do you think he takes the stand in his own defense?

No, no.

No.

He better not.

I think they never let him take the stand.

No, no.

Okay.

Absolutely.

You don't pay those high-priced attorneys for you to have to get up there and plead your case.

No, for you to have to get up there and get cross-examined.

Yeah, no, right.

That's the last thing we want.

We're not doing that.

Last thing we want.

Did you see?

What did y'all think about the lines of people out there?

They were not.

They were paying folks

$25 to $32 an hour to stand online.

To say what?

You know what I'm saying?

It was like a get in the club.

Yeah.

It's like first come, first serve type shit.

People are lining up at God knows what time.

What is the second?

What is the second craziest trial that y'all have ever witnessed or been alive for?

I say second because I'm just going to put OJ.

OJ Menendez.

OJ goes at one.

of John Gotti, Robert Blakely.

I ain't never followed none of that shit.

Phil Specter.

Phil Specter's a good one.

Because it was two trials.

First one was a mistrial.

Second one he gets convicted for.

But when I speak on Biggest Trial, yeah, that was a real good one.

But when I speak of Biggest, I also mean

Jeffrey fucking Dahmer.

No, no, I'm also talking about your reaction.

Your relationship to it.

Your, yeah.

Like, because these are huge.

For me, it was Michael Jackson.

But for me, it was only Michael Jackson.

Michael Jackson and OJ were the only two that I felt

Joe George Zimmer.

Joe Zimmerman was

George Zimmerman.

But Michael Jackson found it.

Michael Knight second.

Michael Knight second.

It was OJ and Zimmerman.

For me.

Which case gave you the biggest, maybe let me reword it.

Which case gave you the biggest aha?

Like, wow, like, holy shit.

I can't believe what I'm seeing.

Rodney King.

I was about to say, nigga, we rolled Rodney King.

Yeah, that's.

Rodney King, bro.

Rodney King.

We saw these cops beating this man on the ground.

So in our brain, and I was younger, but in our brain, it's like it's no way that they could possibly argue this.

You get what I'm saying?

It's no way that they could possibly justify

we didn't see it.

Rodney King, we saw these men beating this man on tape, kicking him in the face, beating them with batons, and then none of them niggas got a day.

Got it.

So, that was something that we had to

live in.

For me, right after OJ would probably have to be Aaron Hernandez.

No, that was a big trial, but I didn't have to ah-ha aha from that.

I don't care about the trial.

Yeah, yeah.

I care about.

Wait, what?

Because of the gay stuff?

No, because this is a football.

The orator I've been watching of the

touchdowns has

six bodies.

He was doing that.

Not like the gay stuff.

No, no.

Talk about that.

Aaron.

It is killing Aaron Henry.

But I guess I went into the trial knowing that already, so I wasn't shocked.

I didn't have an aha moment the way I did.

Well, wait, I learned about new bodies in the trial.

That's true.

But once you kill two, six don't really I'm not like, oh, he killed even more people.

He was a killer.

It was the fact that he was a killer was the shocker for me.

I didn't know that.

If you jump from two to six,

you're a serial killer now.

That's true.

Because two is a circumstance, right?

I know niggas in the hood that killed two niggas.

You killed six, nigga.

You in the hood hall of fame.

Them same two niggas you think they only killed, they might got four more.

Fucking talk about it.

You said we just in the hood don't know.

Right.

We talk about the ones you know.

Yeah.

Like, God damn, that nigga, that

for me, one of the most impactful trials I ever watched in my entire life was Paul Bernardo and Carla Homolka.

Do you know who they are?

What Leon Homolka did, y'all.

All right, I know.

I was supposed to say Barthes.

That's your day, Jim B.

Oh.

I'm joking.

Tell me who they are.

Tell us who these people are.

Carl Manuka.

Anuca honey?

No, Carl Bernardo and Carla Homolka.

They were a married couple and

they lived in Canada.

They lived in

St.

Catharines.

It's like the suburb that's like about 50 miles outside of Toronto.

And on the surface, you know, he's this good-looking guy.

She's his good-looking wife, and everything is perfect, right?

Come to find out, they're murdering young girls together.

So, the first girl was named Leslie Mahaffey.

She goes missing, nobody knows where she is.

Her body's later found, like, you know, dismembered in, encased in cement.

The worst part about that is, the worst part about that is, is that she kept leaving, you know, she kept sneaking out at home.

And one night her mom found out that she snuck out.

So, to teach her a lesson, she locked the door.

And so that was when Paul Bernardo found

Leslie Mahaffey.

That was her name.

And so then their next victim was this girl named Kristen French.

And they

know this case.

I'm telling you.

Did you do a movie the week reenactment of this?

I did not.

No, but this is the thing.

I was cadaverizing.

This is one of the biggest trials.

Yo, you and it gotta stop.

Are y'all crazy?

Oh, shit.

This is one of the biggest trials that ever happened in Canada.

It was wild.

They occupied like, you know,

the news cycle forever.

They're called the Cannon Barbie killers.

What year was this?

Like 1992.

Do you remember their names?

I remember everything about this because it was so crazy because their third victim was her sister.

What was I's name?

It was Carla Mocha's sister.

So Tammy.

Her name was Tammy.

Yeah.

You're good.

Yeah, you beat a host.

So wait, so hold on.

So wait, hold on,

the aha moment.

Let me tell you the aha moment in this trial.

I'm gonna stop.

I want to hear the fucking story.

Do you?

No,

no, I do.

Yeah, I want to hear it.

I want to hear it.

Because this is a really interesting, this is a really interesting story

about immunity.

So

they know that they've caught him.

And as a matter of fact, he was also the Scarborough rapist.

He was

raped like 50 women.

Okay.

So hold on.

So she,

the prosecution basically, you know, has her as a witness and they offer her immunity.

And she's like, I'm, I was a battered woman.

I was forced to do all these things, whatever.

So she gets her immunity deal to like 11 years or something like that.

Then they find tapes inside of the ceiling of the house.

They look through this house, like torn it apart four times and never found these tapes.

Somehow, someway, on the fifth time, they found these tapes.

When they view these tapes of them torturing the girls and murdering them and but performing sex acts on them.

They realized that she was fully in this and was not a battered woman at all.

But they'd given her immunity.

She got off 11 years.

Now she lives somewhere, husband, kids, you know, living the whole like fucking trad wife life.

It's crazy.

Wow.

Y'all check it out.

Yeah.

Kennon Barbie.

Lifetime.

Kennon Barbie.

She was pitching that.

You auditioned for Barbie.

She was pitching that.

That's why I'm a bitch.

I can't play that.

I can't.

I can't play that.

You're a real actress.

I can't play that.

You're a real actress.

You could definitely play that.

Are you kidding me?

Don't sell yourself to it.

She's white with blonde hair.

So it's your kid.

I'm too white.

Dad changing for you.

You can fly.

Something like it.

Talk about cases that hit impact on us, right?

No doubt.

No doubt.

All right.

Hey, check that out if you've never seen it.

Tammy Manuka.

Carl Minoco.

Carl Manuto.

Them niggas.

Springtime over.

You guys still got a fucking shirt.

Carla Nukes.

Carl Manukes.

I love when

they're doing this.

Get in your bag, bro.

The fucking game was on last night.

We was in the middle of our comeback.

That's when my girl decided to send me horoscopes.

She texted the first one.

Virgo.

Of course, the Virgo was going through something and needed a Scorpio.

That's the only time she said it.

Virgo, let go whatever you try to let go.

Yada, yada, yada, yada.

That was cool.

Girl, send me a Scorpio one.

Scorpio, be there for Virgo.

He is really in the...

Yo, the game is.

Y'all, family.

OG just shot a game.

Another three times.

The game is on right now.

Get the fuck out of my phone.

Stop hitting me.

God damn.

Damn, OG was the savior of that game.

OG was great.

Niggas L was great.

Jalen was great.

Mitch was great.

A lot of things had to go great for us to win that game.

The better team won.

The better team won that night.

Jason Tatum and all your hair products.

You know know what I mean?

I'm sure you showered that day.

All that fucking moose and shit you be putting in there.

Nigga, I don't give a fuck.

Guess what's going to go on tomorrow?

What?

In y'all eyes.

Y'all shit going to be burning?

Nah, we up to it tomorrow.

Bruh.

And boy, when it happened.

Y'all already know how I'm coming to work, right?

You know better.

Y'all know I'm coming to work.

Michael buy me a self-defense jersey if I can get it in time.

I bet Tatum, he would have to wear a Nick jersey if it was.

I'm put

what's his middle name?

Yeah, I'm putting nigga middle name on it like you do stuff.

Wardell, boy.

Don't play with Wardell.

Y'all know better.

Christopher.

Oh, what else?

What else?

What else?

What else is important out there or unimportant?

Yo, we was talking about trials and shit in court.

Hove amended his defamation case against Busby.

200 million now.

That's what he wants.

He said, I lost out of $200 million in deals.

And I got my niggas to give me some invoices and some estimates saying that we had this deal on the table.

Crack your fucking head.

Every dollar you make, I want.

From now on, and for a while.

Every dollar.

So if y'all, guess what?

If y'all get Shannon,

that money coming right to daddy.

Come on.

What?

200?

Yep.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good for him.

Buzz your ass like that.

Play with the wrong one.

My man, Shannon lost his deal.

Covered up the boost mobile sign.

I love what that happened, partner.

Yo, bro.

No, not actually mobile.

No, not people losing deals, but having to cover up the sign.

They only got to cover up the sign because they lost the deal.

I know, but you can't cut it off, so now you got to hang a shirt over it.

Like, oh Joe Cenco just put a shirt off over Boost Mobile.

Like, nigga, we know what it used to say right now.

I'm like, what's wrong with you?

I just think it's funny.

That's all.

Oh, man.

Let's see what else.

What else?

What else?

What else needs our attention?

We did Matt Gala.

We did Andre 3K.

We did some Trump shit that we're going to do every time some shit comes out.

We did Rihanna Pregnant.

Your man, Tucker.

We ain't do Tucker.

Tucker.

Oh,

the Ravens released Justin Tucker.

Who cares?

You don't know why?

He's supposed to buy NBC.

He's by MET.

Yo.

No, tell me.

You don't remember Justin Tucker got in the shit for doing the Deshaun?

A bunch of accusations?

Oh, okay.

They claimed it was for football reasons.

Yeah, I'm about to say say Justin Tucker ain't really been Justin Tucker.

He was missing a lot last year.

He did a one year last year.

You forgot all about that.

He only had one bad year, yo.

That nigga's been him for a while.

And them allegations were from the 2012 to, I think, 2016 season is when they all was occurring.

As long as you kick in them 50s, we don't care about them humbles.

You start slowing up now.

They ain't going to hold you.

That's what it's starting to look like.

We don't give a fuck.

We're not paying the

reason.

The guy that hides shit, we're not paying him the war.

Yeah, we don't give a fuck.

Get a reason, man.

Let's justify this.

Yeah, word is ball.

That's nasty.

That's crazy.

Yeah, though, I'm here to celebrate black shit.

I don't give a fuck the

Justin Tucker.

The Ravens, nigga, they black.

Whoa, I can't say that.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, what?

No, I don't celebrate the Ravens.

I ain't saying about that.

That's what I was talking about with Mark.

I asked him, I'm like,

are there teams that you, or players, that you are a fan of that no matter what, you just cannot root for?

Like, for me, it's Lamar Jackson.

I would love nothing more than, like, he's one one of my favorite players to watch, but I would never root for him as long as he has a Ravens jersey.

I just can't do it.

I can't root for a Celtic.

You know, so, like, I'm a huge Kyrie Irving fan, but when he was on the Celtics, I just had to sit down.

Yeah, it's like, damn, same with the Cowboys.

Celtics, Cowboys, I want no parts under any circumstance.

I got morals.

Niggas just hate greatness.

Nah, it ain't great.

Nah, anything division.

Fucking

division.

It ain't even division for me.

Because if Lamar Jackson was a Bengal or Brown, I could still root for him.

And I could deal with a Giant or a Nick, even even though I, you know what I mean?

Because the Ravens have been busting y'all ass for it.

No, no, not really.

Not really.

You can go look that up.

Not really.

The hate is the hate.

It's all right.

It's just, I just hate Baltimore.

Sorry.

Niggas been here before.

That's it.

Oh, yeah.

You used to that?

The hate?

It ain't new.

Nothing new.

Do y'all care about Kanye selling 6,000 copies week one?

I don't.

Congrats or sorry that happened to you?

Word.

Which one one is appropriate here?

What'd you expect?

It's not even under his name, so I mean, that's a big chunk of it.

Is it still out?

Was it under?

It says Donker.

Under the artist's name is Donker.

I guess I didn't expect there to be a big market for mentally ill, Nazi child molesters.

But he did even less than I thought.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Has anybody heard it?

No.

I heard it.

I heard it, but

you said it was a bunch of demos.

Oh.

It's nothing that we...

It ain't Donda Warren.

I'm not going to.

It just wasn't.

He threw something out.

Okay.

That's it.

And I don't even know if the album is still available now.

Don't matter.

It was projected.

They say projections were $21,000 for week one.

Just to let you know the disparity.

Oh, wow.

Got it.

Oh, it is still out, actually.

I just checked.

But it was producer, producer beef, and they said they were filing injunctions.

Oh, yeah, the producer said that they spanky, so they wanted it's still out there.

So, I guess that didn't go through yet.

My nigga fucked himself, yeah, whatever.

I'm off the

range,

leave it right there.

Oh, all the

other things,

oh man, oh, shit.

I'm just seeing if we got a part of the show for sure.

Oh, just checking to see if we got one.

I'm gonna read this.

It's my first time reading it.

It's long pause.

This is from Theo Culture or The Culture.

This says, I met Big Pun once by chance.

Let me know if you think I was an asshole.

Well, why do I care about that?

It might be fun.

I'll read it because he paid.

Might have been an asshole.

First and foremost, shout out to the whole JBP cast.

Shout out to you.

Longtime listener and supporter.

I tie.

I tie dye clothing for a living, which takes hours.

And the paw truly holds me down while working.

Okay, let me paint the picture.

It's 1999.

I'm 19 years old.

Nas had just released his album.

I don't want to read this shit.

Nas had just released his album, I am, and had an in-store signing at NYC at Tower Records at Virgin Records mega store.

Me and my boy, being big fans, drove down an hour from Connecticut in hopes to meet Nas and buy the album.

We get there, and there's a long line outside the building for the signing.

So long,

so long, that the record store eventually comes out and tells the people in line that they were no longer accepting anyone else inside.

That was obviously disappointing.

But parked on the street nearby was a gold big body benz.

We looked closer and it was big pun.

I recognized the benz from the John Blaze video.

We decided to go up and meet Pun as we were big fans of him as well.

Before we approached the car, I thumbed through the double XL magazine I brought with Nas on the cover for him to sign knowing damn well Pun would be in there somewhere.

Sure enough, he was featured in one of the sections with a photo of him and a thought bubble that had a cheeseburger inside it.

I did hesitate for a second, but did bring the magazine for him to sign.

He dapped me up, saw the magazine, said something to his homie in Spanish, chuckled a bit, signed it, and gave it back.

He was so cool and cordial.

I always felt the way about it.

In hindsight, I probably wouldn't have had him sign that, but I always blamed XXL and their editorial staff for making fun of him in that way at the height of his career.

You hear that, Elliot?

I was just a 19-year-old kid who wanted to get an autograph from one of my favorite mcs all right that's a nice wholesome part of the show

um he wasn't an asshole i don't think you're an asshole he wasn't yeah yeah you didn't you know you knew not what you did you you were young he was a great sport about it that's the important part and he signed it and gave it back now plenty of fans are dicks and will have you try to autograph a bootleg CD yeah bootleg merch somebody else's merch oh they'll they do they do well they have you try to autograph your like the team you

yeah.

Like if a Knicks player, they run into him, you'll sign this for me, and then they move it at the last minute, it's a Celtics jersey.

Yeah,

so fans could get on some dickhole.

I totally understand.

I don't think that that applies to I don't think it was pun's first time seeing that picture.

The culture.

Rest in peace, big pun.

Rest in peace.

And shout out to you.

Again,

if you join the part of the show tier on Patreon and pay that fee, if you send us in a question, we will try our best to answer it.

Shout out to everybody that is a part of that tier.

Salute, salute, salute, salute, salute.

And with that said,

I think it's time for sleepers.

I am going to go with a young lady by the name Sailor.

That's S-A-I-L-O-R-R.

And this song is called Pookie's Requiem.

I played it.

You played it already?

Oh, then I'm going to play her other song that I love.

It's the first joint off the project.

Because that song was hard.

Actually, you know what?

Since Ish played it, Ish has been body and shit, so I can't be mad at that.

He's giving me a lot of good ones.

I will go

with

Cleo.

Salt.

I knew somewhere on that salt project.

Salt shit is tough?

Yeah, it's tough.

But somewhere on there, she was going to turn into Cleo's soul.

Yeah, a lot of it was kind of like almost disco-y, where it's like a like a chant happening throughout as opposed to like a full-fledged shit.

I like that shit.

Yeah, we turned Spot.

Disco.

but there's two or three where she turned into Cleo Soul.

I'm going with S-I-T-L

off the Salt Project.

You play the Summer Walker joint-ish

of that project?

Because I think the project is called that too.

It don't matter, I'm sticking with this.

Shout out to Cleo Saul, friend of the show.

Shout out to Saul.

No God is working,

even though I feel this way

Can't get it out of my head

But I'm getting stronger

I know I'm not perfect

Imperfections make me a sway

That's alright,

that's alright

But this time

is over.

Oh, it will never be the same.

The trust

has been broken.

Sorry, it's too late.

God is on

my

side.

That is all

our side.

There's nothing you can do.

You must be crazy.

You ain't gonna change

me.

I know

what loyalty feels like.

And that real love feels great.

I'm going

smile

through the lows

and the highs.

Oh, they can say what they like.

But my soul is covered by the light.

This time

it is over.

It will never be the same.

The trust

has been broken.

I'm sorry, it's too late.

This time

it is over.

It is over.

This time

it is over.

It will never be, it will never be the same.

Let's try

soon.

Sorry, it's a little bit too late.

This time

it's over.

Sorry, it's too late.

All right, that was good, Joe.

Thank you, bro.

I told y'all about this the baby freestyle jacket for beats tape called Please Say the Baby Volume 1, and I'm going to play one of the records off of that.

This one is Sky is the limit.

Get high while I'm in it.

Hurts is so good.

I fuck around, die while I'm in it.

To whip out and just hit one of these niggas with that.

Yeah, I got some shit.

You standing up and me, you're sitting in a chair.

All I needed was a quarter-pounder pistol and a scale.

All these other niggas watered down, that shit been getting stale.

You gon' feel this if you rolling round or sitting in a cell And I can't go out like no hoe about no bitch cause I'm a player Niggas know I keep that flow about my hip like I'm a fed In my city, ain't nothing cold around this bitch, so I'm the mayor I used to wanna run for president when I was a kid But I knew nobody'll vote for me if they ever find out what I sell Ain't a nigga finna do nothing when they see me pop out, bitches there I done took L's, I done handled plenty niggas L's, so I guess it's fair Niggas see me fighting with a grizzly bear up in the woods, a nigga helped the bear I ain't gotta tell a nigga war story if I tell you about it, I was there It ain't no question about it, if they talkin' about the business, they know I'ma stand.

I ain't gotta reach up in the glove box to get the pistol out.

It's in my hand.

Nigga pillar talking with the lame bitch, telling lies about me, niggas playing.

It ain't shit about a bitch, a plain ticket, finna fly out to get his hand.

I'ma make a pussy, nigga, kill itself.

I'm finna keep her out there for a week.

I could post some pictures out in Tercy Kaiser's finna fuck the nigga hold asleep.

Had to thug it through the rain and watch the niggas go against the grain and fold on me.

Ever asked her who the closest thing to wait and put my photo out and show on me.

It's baby.

That's my stay to baby.

The motherfucking mixtape, man.

You know, my daddy was a motherfucker on this shit when I was a little kid, man.

It looked like every time the nigga wrote me a letter, look back.

This back in the day, this the 90s, you know what I'm saying?

So, you know, niggas ain't, he ain't no phone over there.

He writes me letters early.

That's why I'm so good at writing.

I always got good grades in English class, all that shit.

But it got me every letter that nigga say.

This guy is the limit.

Yeah, no bullshit.

My mama still got some letters now.

I can show you, man.

You know, you come to my goddamn pool.

You come to my estate, you look at my pool.

You know what I'm saying?

It's no say.

This guy is the woman.

No motherfucking cap, man.

I grew up all blame, man.

Please say the baby volume one.

Shout out to the baby, DJ Kid, let's get it.

Yeah, and I'm the best fucking rush.

Let's go.

And that is The Sky's the Limit freestyle off of The Baby's Please Say the Baby Volume 1 mixtape.

Like I said, it's a cool tape.

A bunch of minute, 52-minute freestyles over a bunch of fire beats.

So shouts to him.

Shout out to Baby.

I'm going to check it out.

I am going, I'm going to RB this week.

This is Julian and Michael Stop Calling My Grandma.

What?

Coat?

What the fuck you calling her?

Moving on is easy till you gotta do it.

Never miss a good thing till you going through it.

New house, new hand, new tattoo.

Same whole shit, not admitting what you do.

Still tryna say the old pictures in your phone.

Swipe part, take my page, all them bitches gone Tell me how it feel when you waking up alone Straight to voice, man, I'll leave a message at the Stock all in my grandma asking how we'll do it Stay the fuck around us We don't got this anything anymore

Star calling my grandma asking how we're doing Stay the fuck around us We don't got this anything anymore

And loneliness is easy till you gotta do it Tell myself I don't care who the fuck I'm fooling Still tryna save all pictures in my phone Bought your stories from a burner badge when I'm unknown Hit the ground, search your name, see that you won't follow.

Think you got my number blocked, I'll try you again tomorrow.

All my old hoes been busy since you've gone.

I've been standing still, everybody's moving on.

But I heard you living well, now I'm dying to see you.

I just wanna pull up, tell you that I don't need you.

Do you still think about me when you're alone?

Do you still think about me?

Stop calling my grandma, asking how we do.

And stay the fuck around us, we don't got to say anything anymore.

Start on in my grandma, asking how I'm doing.

Stay to fuck around us.

We don't got to say anything anymore.

No, no, no, no,

no, no.

That is Julian Michael Stop Calling My Grandma off his album The Gray, which has a bunch of dope music on it.

Check it out when you get the opportunity.

I'm going to

the song is called Reset and it's by Skytones.

Talk to her nice

and watch it reply.

Baby, open your eyes, I'll make a surprise.

I got water to spare,

I can supply.

Come forever,

and take over mine, baby.

Baby, I'm

we keep going back and forth.

Gonna let you catch me,

touching me, kissing me.

Slow

on it till I can't take it no more.

Gotta catch my breath, reset.

Wrap my legs around your neck,

We can't fuck around and play a game of recess.

If I tell you it's yours, give me what I came for.

Bring it, bring it, bring it back, recess.

Dance like I'm spot you and he even hit it.

We can't fuck around and play a game, Reese.

If I tell you it's yours, give me what I came for.

I did it, baby, and it was crazy.

Now we're in this room,

legs are shaking.

I don't know if I ever felt this way.

But these ones can talk to you.

Play with me.

Baby, I

want

we keep going back and forth.

And I let you catch me, touch me, kiss me.

Hold it till I can't take it no more, baby.

Gotta catch my breath.

Reese, yeah.

My legs around your neck.

Reese,

yeah.

We can't fuck around and play the game.

Tell you,

baby, but I came for

a couple spots you and me.

Fuck around and play a game.

The recent sun games

love you with your fear.

What I came for

right there, right there, right there.

Kiss me right there, right there.

Shatter sharp

Shadow Share.

That is Skytunes, Sky with an E

reset.

That was dope.

Mel, I see you made it audible at the last minute.

I did.

You felt some pressure?

What happened?

Mel made it audible.

She made it audible.

Wait, what?

She made it audible.

You know what the audible is?

What was that?

When you changed your play at the last minute.

Yeah.

You saw the defense.

You saw the defense.

You didn't like what you see.

You thought it was going to be one safety.

It's two safeties.

Did you change the safety?

No, we're no longer passing the ball.

We're going for a running play.

They'll never see it coming.

Did you send Parks one song

and then change your mind as the sleeper segment was in progress?

To be clear, she does this frequently.

She's Peyton Manning.

Well, to be clear, Ish has been king of sleepers frequently.

So

that counts.

Yeah.

Ish has won the sleeper of the year award for me.

But he's Brady.

Wait, hold up.

Let me shit on Mel.

I didn't shit on Mel enough this part.

I know you did you did agree with me a lot.

It was out of character.

I like this new cadence.

But listen, I got you.

But listen.

Ish is the king of sleepers.

He won the award.

Yes, he did.

When he was out of work, I mentioned to you that he won the award.

Yep.

You said he was undeserving of that and then played a sleeper that he had played before.

Absolutely.

I did.

It was fucked up.

Yes.

That's why I gave you a dap.

It was was so hot i had to like wheel it you know come with grandma so now i'm just asking if you honestly

you changed this sleeper on your own i changed this sleeper on my own this is a song that i really like um the only reason why i changed it is because the one that i picked it was similar in tonality to his and i don't want to put the audience to sleep so the king returns

not necessarily this is just a different offering offering.

Just off, let's hear it.

What is it?

This is a different offering.

Let's see.

Okay.

Let's see.

This is a love a different offering.

Okay.

This is called Upside Down by 54 Ultra.

Let's go.

Okay.

My world is upside down.

It got

the same

feels the same.

The girl in my whole town

could ever change my way.

Change my way.

Nobody knows how bad I want you so.

I want you so

if only you knew how I felt long ago.

If I stop and say

no,

good will last forever.

And don't tell me you burn up,

cause I could love you better.

Oh, look,

the world drifts away

every time you look

at me.

And I smile every day

when we're fixed on what we could be.

But don't you know how long

I tried to fight for you,

But after all that goes only

you I have to lose

I say it all

could just stay forever

My mind's made all the way up

And now I know no better

I don't know how long

that I could come

some.

I can't believe

what I could see.

I need, I need, I need, I need, oh, yes, I do.

I said, oh, yes, I

Upside down.

That was super fine.

I don't know.

Damn.

I don't even want to go after that.

She said, this is my backup song.

Yeah, I was playing B.

She said, that was the backup song.

Yeah.

Yes.

It's fire.

That's fire.

That was tough.

I don't want to go after that.

But

I've been listening to this

Five album from DeVito.

Solid album.

A couple great standouts.

One of the standouts in there for me is All For Me featuring Victoria Monet.

DeVito.

I've been thinking, I want you to come take this all for me.

Come and show me what it is to drip back to all for me.

Won't you tell me it's all for me?

And I'll give you all of it.

So, baby, come take this all for me.

I've been thinking, I want you to come take this all for me.

Come and show me what it is to drip back to all for me.

When you know we could go all night?

What you tell me is lovely.

And I'll give you all.

Baby, come take this all for me.

When we together, it flows like the wave.

All the stress stops, wave.

I know they feel no violent.

She's been like it.

Four with the sky.

You and me.

I can't ever change nobody.

All through the night, I'll be thinking.

Get that body with the fake me.

Oh, baby, love me.

I'ma make I love you.

Up to the night, I'll be thinking.

Get that body with it, take me.

Oh, baby, love me.

I'ma make I love you.

I've been thinking, I want you to come take this all for me.

Come and show me what it is that you've got to offer me.

When we know we can go all night, won't you tell me is all for you.

And I'll give you all of it.

So pretty, come take this off of me.

I want you for me forever.

Don't die up to long kilometer.

Oh, yeah, baby, make you check up.

This one no vital.

No go break my heart.

Make a no kohala, yeah, yeah.

Oh, baby, ole, ole.

Cause I bump pity, bumpy, you nazu.

Oh, baby, ole, oleo.

So make you no go leave me, my love.

So many things I offer you.

Sweet loving I give to you.

So, baby, come closer, take my hold and make a body with your closer.

Oh, my man, don't you go,

oh, oh, oh, man, don't you go,

Helen, take it, I want you to come take this all for me.

Come and show me what it is that you've got to offer me.

Only you can go all night.

But you tell me it's all for you.

And I'll give you all of you.

So, baby, come take this all for me.

That is all for me by DeVito and the lovely and talented Janelle Monet.

And that was a slap.

That was a slap.

Or Victoria Monet.

What did I say?

Janelle Monet.

Wonderful.

Rest of the show.

No one else wants to pod no more, so I guess it's just us three.

Who don't want to pod?

Well, that's your fucking mouth.

My fault, man.

Yeah.

What's up, we beat your pod off?

After the sleepless.

I'll tell you one thing.

I saw y'all in there slap boxing.

It looked like Ish was handling both of y'all.

Yeah, I mean, you know, oh, we gotta, we we gotta, we gotta.

You know, this ish ain't here no more, right?

We gotta deal with a nigga work.

We gotta deal with it.

We gotta deal with a nigga with one leg with care.

You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm talking around?

He got gross and shit.

Yeah, it was serious.

You go right after that one leg.

Yeah, he got shingles.

He got all that shit.

He already fucked up in the game.

Yo, before we get out of there, real quick, though, in Jersey news, I just want to send an R.I.P.

out the Costa.

Everybody in Jersey knows he was the owner of Abyss, Deco, Mr.

East, or Cavalier back then,

recently passed away.

A big, big, big, big staple in like the Jersey nightlife,

you know, in the 90s, early 2000s.

Up to shit, up to recent.

So,

rest in peace, Costa.

Rest in peace.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, you put your shades on when everybody left.

You good?

Yeah.

It's bright in here, right?

It's just really bright in here.

What made you put the shades on?

It's really bright in here.

Oh, yeah, that shit starts getting to you.

I'm never popping what I share.

What's going on with I?

Age?

Is it the age thing?

Well, I got an IBBL, so I got to protect them.

Got it.

That's true.

That's true.

I can't play around with the IBBL.

Did you get the LASIC?

Yeah.

Is it for like, do it work first?

It worked, bro.

Yes.

My procedure took

three to four minutes.

And when I opened my eyes, dude was like, I had my eyes closed.

He took the shit off.

He's like, yo, you got to open your eyes.

I'm like.

Oh, shit.

He was like, hey, you don't need these no more.

Gave my old glasses in my hand.

I was like.

But

it ain't official.

Like, it it don't really hit you until you wake up the next morning

and just open your eyes and can see.

I didn't see good, I just know I didn't feel shit.

Really?

You said the thick George, thick glasses, right?

No, they weren't thick.

Yeah, the skin.

I'm just high-index lenses.

I spent a little extra to get them thinned.

Oh, but you had the

prescription.

The prescription was bad.

What if it was bad?

Five and a half over here, and like maybe six over there.

Negative seven, negative six and a half.

Sheesh.

Yeah.

Four ish.

I'm four.

I don't even.

I guess I should go to the doctor.

Yeah, that's right.

Would you get lazy?

I wish I would have done that years ago.

Really?

Because the only downside is they told me once you get 41, 42, I'm right there.

You're going to need readers.

Yeah.

Regardless.

Even somebody with perfect vision their entire life.

Once you get to your mid-40, like early to mid-40s, you're going to need readers.

I've had 20-20 vision or better my whole life.

Now, when I get the menu, I'll be like this.

Same.

Oh, yeah.

So I'll be using the brightness on my phone.

You're not a candidate now.

Oh, okay.

Because it's not going to affect that part.

Look at all these old niggas like this before.

Look at all these old niggas talk about their vision.

Like, hold on, that's shit.

Look at all these old ass niggas talking about their vision.

I'm not sure that I wasn't doing that when I first got here.

It's a new thing.

You know the funny shit?

I try to fight it.

You know how I try to fight it?

I make my font small.

I've seen you put your Phyllis's on.

I just had to.

Make my font be extra small just because I'm a hold on as long as I can.

It's all right, Margaret.

You good.

You don't have to put them on.

I just.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, wow.

Those are like, you like Martin and Bad Boys 2.

Yeah.

Pretty ass fish.

Big ass eyes.

Those are the prescription, male?

Yeah, yes, but they're reasonable.

It's a magnification.

God damn.

Let me see, girl.

You don't need 9 crazy.

Tomorrow is looking like the deck.

These are like 12 points.

125, something like that.

Isn't that a point?

Like 1.25.

Yo, that's crazy.

Yo, male.

If you don't want to be sexually objectified, and you want to be taking wear them.

Don't listen to me.

No, no, no, that's a lot.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, crazy.

I'm going to throw my hair into pigtails and put on a little short skirt and it's like, oh, come here, teacher.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Oh, Mel.

I did that chip.

Mel, please.

I played that fantasy

many times.

You had a yardstick?

Hey, Mel.

You had a yardstick?

No, he had the yardstick.

Oh, oh, oh, whoa, whoa.

Mel,

your anime video game bag, you trying to get wear those over there, too.

Oh, yeah.

They'll fuck with you.

Okay.

All right.

Tell me what kind of gaming console I am.

Just put the glasses on.

Cut the camera off.

You need to be sticking Genesis.

Fucking filling out word finds.

You got it.

Just go over there and wear some Hello Kitty.

That's all I got.

Oh, okay.

All right.

So professional question is the new guy.

Do we have to just keep stretching the short or can we leave?

That's hilarious.

Because I feel like this is a good time to wrap this thing up.

Well, Mel, tell us, the baddies are insecure.

Oh, yeah.

The baddies are insecure.

No, you gotta.

You know he ain't gonna like that.

All you guys are the peace sites.

We are giving the show

just as much.

I hope you guys have enjoyed the show.

The show just as much as you can.

I hope you've enjoyed giving it to you.

You've been here the longest.

You on parks?

Go ahead.

Yeah.

Shut your dumb ass up.

Oh, that's you.

Oh, shit.

Sorry, so you guys are trying to sign up without him being here, yes?

Yeah.

You got this podcast?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

You're back to me.

You're back to shit by the way.

What, like a lap dog?

Hi, y'all.

It's Queen Flare, yo.

We're enjoying the podcast.

We are out of here.

Listen.

Thank you for tuning in.

We hope you love the show.

Just as much as we know, just remember all that fly shit Joe said.

Remember, the baddies are insecure, except for Mel.

The

blonde niggas can see.

The niggas wear hats.

The doctors sometimes can be hood niggas.

And the white guys.

Stagnant women.

And the white guys can definitely engineer.

Listen.

And the short-arm niggas love the reach.

Yeah.

Oh, shit.

Hey, yo, close that.

Hey, yo, boy.

You big-head-ass boy.

Boy, you can get your hair can't fit through the door, boy.

Give me a medium five.

Give me a medium.

What's your head size?

What's your head head size?

12?

No, listen.

A nigga said, give me a medium.

Give me a five.

Stagnant women want to travel.

And the clothes-minded women want to see some things.

Grab you a Tylenol.

You might need it.

Until next time, we are out of here.

We bid you a dude.

Farewell.

Ariba Day.

We're going to be a bit of a daughter La Vista so long.

Goodbye.

There we go.

We love y'all, man.

Listen.

See you next week.

Pasta La Vista, baby.

You said pasta at MetLife.

Yo, girl, you don't want to come double.

Meet me at MatLife.

I always think about it.

Pasta La Vista.

Pasta La Vista.

Jump back.

Yeah, press that.

GBP.

Hey, Flip, do this.

Yeah, fuck that.

He ain't out, man.

You be stretching this shit.