Episode 877 | "What's For You Is For You"

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Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.

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Speaker 1 All right, we are on air now. We are.
And I'm back.

Speaker 1 You feel good.

Speaker 1 The top feels so much better than the bottom. Whoa,

Speaker 1 whoa, whoa. It does.
Okay. Okay.
I mean, it does. That's what they're saying.

Speaker 1 The bottom, they put it right in there. So you got to be in the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 No, he's talking about the success lab. Oh, come on.

Speaker 1 Come on. Not gay sex.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 they're going to put it in there. On the success slab.
What they put in on the success ladder at the bottom.

Speaker 1 Wait, gay?

Speaker 1 Actually, hold on, oh, yeah. Whoa, what they said.

Speaker 1 Good point.

Speaker 1 What's y'all saying?

Speaker 1 Y'all making good jokes that I'm only going to catch on the playback. What happens?

Speaker 1 He do that. He did that.
He's a master.

Speaker 1 And I realized that Parks was shooting at me the other day with the whole, you niggas pod different in front of your girls. He didn't say no.
I'm slow.

Speaker 1 When y'all shoot at me on air, I don't know me. And he was going along what? I thought he acknowledged it.
No, I didn't. Joe was an ooh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I think that you niggas might change up the script when your girl is listening. I didn't take it like your girl got to be present.
It wasn't really a direct shot at you, it was a shot to

Speaker 1 anybody. It was a girl, let it apply.
Let it apply. Oh, yeah.
See, that's the other thing.

Speaker 1 It didn't apply until I got home.

Speaker 1 What's up? How y'all doing, man? Good, great. I am Corey.
I don't want to smell your fucking chicken noodle soup. I smell good.

Speaker 1 Come on with this healthy bullshit, man. What is that? Zucchini? Yeah, you got some fucking rigatoni soup.
Zucchini noodle soup. Some gel soup.

Speaker 1 What up, y'all? Back on that map, man. What up? It feels good.
I see y'all, man. Listen, good to see you, Phil.

Speaker 1 I'm happy to be at work, man. Sweatsuit on.

Speaker 1 Dazzled too.

Speaker 1 Diamond.

Speaker 1 This will be the day.

Speaker 1 Uniquely defined.

Speaker 1 Let me say, here's the thing. I was here.
What day was I here? I was here earlier this week or last week? Tuesday. Or last week.

Speaker 1 I was here, what? What's today? Today's Tuesday. Tuesday.
Tuesday. I didn't even know it was Tuesday.

Speaker 1 I know you want me here on Fridays, nigga, but I'm not here on Fridays. So,

Speaker 1 what's the day? Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You was here like, that might have been a Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday.

Speaker 1 They called me in for a meeting. They called me in for a meeting.
Who's that? Tuesday. Ian and Joe.
Ian and Joe didn't call nothing. Joe called me in for a meeting.

Speaker 1 Y'all just going to bunch me and Ian together. Joe, you called me for a meeting.
What did that got to do with Ian? When I came here, Ian was outside dancing. Well, that's because I called him.

Speaker 1 So called him flip for me, but no him and I didn't call flip for me. Got it.
Okay, I called flip for me in for a meeting that Ian said he would he would like to be present for us. Got it.
So Joe.

Speaker 1 So they both beat me here. Joe calls me on the phone.
I missed the call. Call him back.
Yo,

Speaker 1 yo, just, you know, what you doing?

Speaker 1 What's up, nigga? Get straight to it. They'll pull up on me.
I say, okay, is this

Speaker 1 a bad face-to-face or a good? He said, it depends, but I know I am, I'm leading with love. that's what he says to me in the phone oh shit trouble

Speaker 1 that ain't never good

Speaker 1 that's exactly what he says i'm leading with love whatever i say to you is from a place of love no you said am i gonna be mad yeah thank you am i gonna be mad about this is this meeting gonna be mad how am i preparing myself to come over there he said i don't know if you're gonna be mad what i mean get the rascal or not i'm just saying right so anyway cool i take a shower i come through As soon as I come through, I see Ian in the hallway dancing.

Speaker 1 It's like he got out of the elevator. I'm like, he must have thought it was.
I'm like, here it goes.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 So now I come in. Joe comes.
We walk outside. These niggas start to talk.

Speaker 1 Ian starts his conversation just telling me about my performance and how he feels. Joe's listening.
Joe tells me how he feels. I stop both of them.
Yo, just get straight to the point.

Speaker 1 Like, what are we doing here? Is it bad? Get straight to the point. What's going on? My man told me how he feels.
Like, you know,

Speaker 1 just performance-wise.

Speaker 1 And the funny part about it, see, I was taking Joe serious, but it's when the white man, Ian, started saying, you don't love him.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You don't love him.

Speaker 1 You sit there on your phone. Nigga, do all this right here.
I'm looking at this nigga like,

Speaker 1 I start dying laughing. I said, if this was Corey, I would listen to Corey because Corey has something about him.
But you doing that? He pointed. You don't love him.

Speaker 1 You know how I feel. When I'm watching on the playback and you're on your phone and this man, he has worked hard.
He puts his friends on. And all you do is on your phone, not paying attention.

Speaker 1 You don't love him. You know how much chances we took? I'm listening to him like I'm just laughing.
Now, I feel bad that I'm laughing. That sounds respectful.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 come on, Paul. You know what I'm saying.
To see a person act like that that you've never seen act like that,

Speaker 1 it caught me off guard.

Speaker 1 You said, What? Made you erupt into laughter. It did, it did, it did, what? It caught me off guard.
So, had to meet them niggas pull my coattail. You know, so I'm back.

Speaker 1 I'm here, I'm focused, I'm ready. I still don't want to say

Speaker 1 key gaps in the story here. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta

Speaker 1 skip it.

Speaker 1 I gotta skip it.

Speaker 1 I was just like, he could tell the rest of whatever he wants. But I'm not telling nothing.
I am a vault.

Speaker 1 Are you comfortable with us asking a couple probing questions? Yeah, y'all do whatever you want.

Speaker 1 Probably. Have a blast.
I ain't got your best. That's a bottom.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 All right, don't do anything that's going to cater.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm going to watch it, and I'm going to come back. I'm going to have a conversation with you.

Speaker 1 I'm right next to you. You're going to hear my kick.
Yeah, but you. The problem with you probing, Mark, is you come here and are a dick.
Yeah, you a

Speaker 1 dark. You the real pro, nigga.
Like,

Speaker 1 you the probing. You don't do nothing with love up here.
Then he get on fucking Pierce Prosden and them. Pierce Pierce Prosident.

Speaker 1 That's why they be talking about you. Yeah, Mark.
What's up? No, no. So when he was, first of all, when he was breaking down your performance, whatever it was, I'm going to ask.

Speaker 1 Did you feel like he was accurate? Who?

Speaker 1 Whoever both of them broke it down. I think it's differently.

Speaker 1 Yeah, ENA is. I want to deal with what I said.
Yeah, yeah. I feel like Joe was accurate.
Yes, okay. I feel like it was accurate.
And how did you feel?

Speaker 1 And how did I, I mean, one Ian question, just because you said you laughed was he, was that, did that anger him more?

Speaker 1 It did rile him up. He was riled up.
It did.

Speaker 1 I was having a serious talk, so I was not laughing. Right.
However, Ian, Ian was, he turned it up. He did.

Speaker 1 Ian was, because you know, Ian, I can't say that, but yeah, you know, Ian is in and out sometimes. Okay.
He's in and out sometimes.

Speaker 1 So he was

Speaker 1 all aware. He's like, come on, brother.

Speaker 1 I didn't like that.

Speaker 1 He was going.

Speaker 1 I told him about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He was aggressive, but I think it was. No, I'm respecting it.

Speaker 1 I just laughed and I sat here right there in the middle. I said, yo, listen, I'm only laughing at you because I've never seen you act this way.
So don't take it as any disrespect.

Speaker 1 I just find it funny because there's a lot of theatrics.

Speaker 1 Hey, you clipper niggas, if flip didn't work here, your accents check would go down about 40K.

Speaker 1 Hey, however much you make.

Speaker 1 Do you think they're making 40K? No, I'm saying, wherever it applies to it, it'll go down quite a bit.

Speaker 1 It'll go down quite a bit. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Do you think you laughing at him changed the outcome at all?

Speaker 1 As far as what?

Speaker 1 Whatever y'all resolved, did it change how? No, no, it didn't change the outcome, but me, me laughing, he understood what I was. I explained to him.

Speaker 1 I mean, Ian's from the Stern, so he understands what I'm saying. Even though it was, I just, I made sure I was clear.
Yo, I'm only laughing because

Speaker 1 if this was Corey, because Corey spoke to me before. Not laughing at Corey.
Corey has a different demeanor. Yo, nigga, come on, act like a bitch, nigga.

Speaker 1 Fuck, you told me, you know where you come from. Because you're scared of Corey.
Hi, Corey.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of words for saying I'm scared of Corey.

Speaker 1 That's fine.

Speaker 1 But it was dope, though. It was dope to be a little bit more.
Just one more question. Just one more question.
Last one.

Speaker 1 Is there any relationship between the conversation and your new schedule?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's the relationship?

Speaker 1 You just said last question. Well, he didn't answer.

Speaker 1 He did answer you. Okay.
He said yes. I'll leave it alone.
Directly. Hold on.
He directly said yes. Let me.
Go ahead, get yourself. No, no, no, no, that's fine.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 I'll leave it to you clippers to figure out.

Speaker 1 New schedule is by choice. Or new schedule schedule is by choice.
Whose choice? Mine.

Speaker 1 Mine.

Speaker 1 New schedule by choice.

Speaker 1 Even if he was.

Speaker 1 New schedule by choice.

Speaker 1 New thing choice.

Speaker 1 This is a good talk, man. Shout out to God.

Speaker 1 This is a good thing for clearing. I just didn't want any false information going on.
No, no, I mean,

Speaker 1 shut up, Mark.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 That was my top priority.

Speaker 1 I guess that's a TED talk, whatever they say. There we go.

Speaker 1 We're getting Nas. About some different

Speaker 1 curry

Speaker 1 juice roll recipes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one of them. Oops, not that well.

Speaker 1 There we go. We're going with Sting, but shout out to Nas.

Speaker 1 I thought about it, but another record I wanted to play is not the same tempo as the message. So yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 We deals with cards as a meditation

Speaker 1 Mike Shack Mike Shack one two one two and two

Speaker 1 So glad y'all could be here with us today salutations

Speaker 1 Shout out to wherever you might be listening from of course

Speaker 1 Big Jersey big New York City in the building you know the vibes with us

Speaker 1 Hey body at work right now for sure for Sheesy shout out to y'all shout out to the veterans

Speaker 1 Shout out to the veterans anybody that ever served. Thank you, thank you for your time.

Speaker 1 Always for the ladies, always for the ladies. The numbers lead to them.
No matter what they say about us.

Speaker 1 Mike check 40 and up out there, 40 and up out there.

Speaker 1 I know that diamonds need money for this art.

Speaker 1 But that's not the shape of mine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, buddy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen.

Speaker 1 I know you think that

Speaker 1 I shoulda still love you all too.

Speaker 1 Come on, man. Spoiler, New York.
Fuck y'all thought I was on it here today, man.

Speaker 1 But if I did, what you know about this?

Speaker 1 Huh? His wife be playing this shit. He knows this song.

Speaker 1 His wife got the white slab song. Stop playing.

Speaker 1 I promise I'm not trying

Speaker 1 to make your life harder. I'll return to where we were.

Speaker 1 And surrender.

Speaker 1 Let's go, yes.

Speaker 1 I'm in love, I'm in love, I'm in love.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Neil, wherever you listen. Uh, wherever you listening from, shout out to Neil's moms.

Speaker 1 Yo, do y'all want to talk about uh the Mario Omarion little

Speaker 1 tiff they're having? Oh, y'all have to put me off. I'm not here.
I wasn't aware.

Speaker 1 Uh, please, y'all started that mess when fucking Marion came up here. One of y'all niggas.
Ish.

Speaker 1 Yeah, somebody started that mess. You, we'll get to it.

Speaker 1 It's a

Speaker 1 you stand when you get so fucking cussing, yelling, and throwing signs.

Speaker 1 You up, I don't mean no disrespect when I start to stay. Shout out to everybody in college right now.

Speaker 1 Everybody getting ready for college, everybody doing

Speaker 1 you mad. It's so sexy.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the Patronies, man. Make sure y'all sign up to that Patreon.

Speaker 1 Shout out to all the mad girlfriends and wives out there.

Speaker 1 That makes me wanna tear you down.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the Scorpios out there.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Every time you see that race,

Speaker 1 I wanna kiss you

Speaker 1 when you put your hands on me.

Speaker 1 I wanna touch you

Speaker 1 when we get to our security.

Speaker 1 Just gotta kiss you,

Speaker 1 baby. I don't know why you like that, but you're just so damn sexy

Speaker 1 when you're mad, man.

Speaker 1 Let's keep this applause going for the best broadcast in the fucking universe, man. So blessed to be here with y'all.

Speaker 1 So blessed to have y'all, and y'all are so blessed to have.

Speaker 1 Get these drops out the way right quick.

Speaker 1 Keep this fucking fucking applause going right quick.

Speaker 1 Who is that? Who is that? Who is that? Who is that? Who is that?

Speaker 1 It's Mark LeBron Hill. Pussy, pussy.

Speaker 1 All right, I think that was all of them. Big flip in the building.
Queens get the money. Y'all know the vibes.
Y'all know what we hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cold outside. It was snowing all

Speaker 1 20 minutes ago. Shout out to everybody whose heat is not working.

Speaker 1 I know it's some of y'all out there. Yeah, niggas with the radiators.

Speaker 1 Switch some shits up, man. It's back.

Speaker 1 I got old radiators.

Speaker 1 I got two little small portable

Speaker 1 heaters I bought from Home Depot. Yeah, I got a couple of that, too.
Nigga, that's the best 49.

Speaker 1 The cheap joint is the one that

Speaker 1 you love. The little square.

Speaker 1 In some instances, spending more don't mean

Speaker 1 dumb little heaters.

Speaker 1 I was almost mad when my he started working again.

Speaker 1 Like, this shit don't do it like this shit next to the bed. Yeah.
God damn. Listen, shout out to y'all.
Y'all are so, man, give it up for yourselves out there. You got you guys.
Round of applause.

Speaker 1 I think I can hear it.

Speaker 1 You guys are awesome, man.

Speaker 1 My name is Joe Button. This is the Joe Button podcast.
We've been on for fucking 10 years. It's been a few crews.
This is my favorite.

Speaker 1 Flip is here. Mark is here.
Ish is here. I'm tired of intro, nigga.
Y'all should even know. Ice is Parks is Poe.

Speaker 1 Corey is here. Ericsson is here.
Savon and Tana are here by remote. You guys are here.
Yep, yep. None of this is possible without y'all.
We sign up to all Patreons.

Speaker 1 Shout out to anybody who may be fighting a private battle out there. Shout out to anybody who may be struggling with their mental health.
We're here for y'all. Gentlemen, how do y'all feel? Great.

Speaker 1 Feel great. Feel great.

Speaker 1 Great weekend. Y'all like my new monotone intro? No.
No. No.
No. Not at all.

Speaker 1 I'm coming in here yelling and getting all hype, man. Welcome to episode 877 of the Joe Button Podcast.
There you go. Brought to you by Power By

Speaker 1 Prospects. Nigga, I'm hungry.
Oh, that's what it is. That's what it is.
You got a little hangry. That's it, yeah.
A little hangry. Kino cooking in here on Fridays is fucked me up.

Speaker 1 He's coming in here on Tuesday. He can't do that no more.
I'll be ready for bed after the meals. Yes.
He can. No, he can, but I'm just saying, like.
Well, he got the menu for what he got. I heard.

Speaker 1 I heard. I got a menu for what he got going on on Friday.
Okay.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm talking about. Oh, my bad.
My bad. Just one more.
No, no, I think he can keep doing it. It's just.
He should cook it

Speaker 1 during the Patreon, and then we eat it right afterward.

Speaker 1 Nah. No, or not.
Well, that would require any of y'all staying for for a second after the Patreon words. But y'all run out of here.
Y'all like a road runner. Y'all like Shikara

Speaker 1 from Thundercats, nigga. Y'all get going.

Speaker 1 Shout out to my baby. It's her birthday on Thursday.
Go Scorpio. Happy birthday, shout out.
Happy birthday shout out to Shaday. Yeah, man.
This shit is so annoying.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that's also why you're a little sleepy today.

Speaker 1 You've been busy shopping and preparing a beautiful birthday celebration for yourself. Or preparing my defense argument for why some things may remotely.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 she one of them niggas that, oh, I want the small things. It's the card.
Did you write someone a card? No, you got me a cage.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, I didn't.

Speaker 1 You gotta do it. Well, I'll step away and make some calls.
There you go. There you go.
There you go. You do it all the time.
The problem is

Speaker 1 she could tell when Key picked the card. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, you think a key card and your card are about to be the same? That's the problem. These black girls are savvy.

Speaker 1 Business fucking. Yo, she could tell when Key picked it versus when I pick it.
Yeah. So now I got to go and find a fucking car

Speaker 1 somewhere. Yeah.
You know what you do? Make your own shit. Oh, that's be great.
Yeah, make your own car.

Speaker 1 When you go in Target looking for the birthday cards,

Speaker 1 they're all in the anniversary section. You got to search.
It's one sentence they want you to write. Shout out to my baby.
I'm going to lace that shit. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 Oh, you got to find the blank one. That's what I said.
Get the blank one and you're right.

Speaker 1 Then I had Kareem at Birndor send me some necklaces. Then I stopped looking at those.

Speaker 1 They came with prices. Yeah, now them jewelry prices over there.

Speaker 1 It's over for that shit. They came with prices.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the other day, and I'm not going to keep bringing up, I went to see somebody else who built their shit.

Speaker 1 That's where all the money got to go now. He bugged the fuck up.
Oh, come.

Speaker 1 You got to.

Speaker 1 That was the Lord.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Lord.

Speaker 1 Paul Burke that. Paul Burke off back.
Yeah, build that. You know what's funny about that?

Speaker 1 When white people say kaboom and what happened versus what I assumed happened.

Speaker 1 Yo, I thought somebody got shot. I thought somebody jumped over the damn.
That's what I thought. When you say kaboom, nigga, if the plants fall, oh, fuck it.
Anyway, Corey, look at Corey.

Speaker 1 Oh, nigga, look at that. Look at Corey.
He got muscles, nigga. Yeah.
Yeah, Corey. Using the prison exercises.

Speaker 1 That's because Corey came out of jail when it was tough to get a job with certain shit on your record. Look, look at him now.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Love Corey.

Speaker 1 Sorry, audience.

Speaker 1 Listenership. A little turbulence out there.
Some shit well outside. We got to pick it up.
We

Speaker 1 trying to be decent, man. Yeah.
Looks great.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Corey. Everybody's good.
What'd y'all do? What'd y'all do for the weekend? What y'all do for the weekend? Too damn much, man. Too much.
A lot. Family shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we had the release party thing in Times Square for the Levi shit. And then me and Imani hit the streets afterwards.
Stayed out till 4 o'clock in the morning drinking tequila.

Speaker 1 Had a baby shower for my brother-in-law on Saturday. Hung out after that.
More tequila?

Speaker 1 Had to see that night. Wait, wait, that was Friday.
Friday, you went to the event and then stayed out with Amani drinking tequila. And then Saturday had energy to be back out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had to sleep till about two in the afternoon and then found the energy. And then Sunday had a video shoot.
And then Monday, I had another shoot. And now I'm here.
So what's the video shooting?

Speaker 1 You're fucking tired. A bunch of shit.
I mean, music or one music, one content.

Speaker 1 Oh, you know, content. I was getting it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Thought you was on somebody's runway or something.
Yeah, you never know what this guy. Yeah, you know.
Some more pull-ups.

Speaker 1 All right, so that sounds like a long weekend. It was like a nice long weekend.
It was. It was.
I was at Levi Party, Levi's party, though. Oh, it was amazing, man.
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 Seeing my face in Times Square's a trip on a billboard.

Speaker 1 More shout out to Joe. Fire.
Why?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I do this. I do the smart thing.
You don't want to put us on a billboard? I need my own billboard.

Speaker 1 Big brand. How about that?

Speaker 1 That's right. Spellparks.
How about that? What the fuck? Mark is asking about

Speaker 1 the Levi shit.

Speaker 1 I still want to hear about getting in the house at four in the morning. I was thinking it too.
I cannot get that off.

Speaker 1 We came back to the house and had a little after

Speaker 1 a quick second. Spellparks.
It was a lot. Yeah, it's a lot different.
It's like different. There's a lot.
They different. There's a lot.
Freeze, what you was up to.

Speaker 1 You got the section at your normal Friday spot? Nope. I was recuperating.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, because you was. Yeah.
Yeah, I was still under the weather. So I'm good now.
So

Speaker 1 be a man and say sick. I was recuperating.
I wasn't sick.

Speaker 1 I was under the weather. I was getting myself back right.
I was under the weather. That's hilarious.
Ish, how was your weekend? You still got your tonight's conversation skin. You went and got a face.

Speaker 1 You glowing. He pulled out the fucking fatigue from when Tribe Call Quest dropped.
The low-end theory. Nah, it's a different fatigue.
What fatigue is that? Them shit is too tight for that era, right?

Speaker 1 Florin. I didn't mean the brand, but flex.

Speaker 1 That's a flex, nigga. Some $150 pants.
That's a flex. Yes, nigga.
That's a flex. Yo, ish.
All right.

Speaker 1 How much do you think people pay for the, like, regular people, how much do you think their fatigues cost?

Speaker 1 And I hate to make this a money thing again. About that.
No, $80. Niggas go to the Army-Navy store, dog.
Them shits ain't cheap no more. They like $50, though.
I don't think so. They might be.

Speaker 1 I don't, all of the Navy stores in my hood is gone. He wouldn't know.
No, I fuck with them. They're gone.
He don't know. They went out of business in my hood.
I felt so bad yesterday.

Speaker 1 My barber's cutting my hair. Top of the cut.
He says, yo, man,

Speaker 1 you know anybody that got, I'm trying to get the Bottega bathroom bag or the Go Yard

Speaker 1 bathroom bag. You know anybody? You got like a plug?

Speaker 1 He was looking for some all the bags.

Speaker 1 I couldn't even hold the laugh.

Speaker 1 You a piece of shit. I said, well,

Speaker 1 he's an asshole.

Speaker 1 When they plug on the lights at Birth Door.

Speaker 1 What What does plug mean? You mean somewhere other than Go Yard, and we'll take it where you can get the knowledge.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, buddy. Can't help you.
Wow. I thought he was.
That's great.

Speaker 1 That's how we thought he was. You thought it was.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I can't wire. Come on, man.
Connections. Deeper, darker.
You like the wire. You like.

Speaker 1 The carts.

Speaker 1 When it comes to that boosting shit. It's coming.
My boy don't play. Yeah, it's coming.
You crazy.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I've seen you on the internet, man. You're seeing who on the internet? You, like, you at the event with Mona? Oh, no, I stopped through there.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Mona. Mona killed it.
Yo, she's silly as fuck, bro. Like, she's just

Speaker 1 innately funny. Yes.
You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, tonight's conversations, Mona was one of the panelists. Okay.
And

Speaker 1 for the most part, they conversations are about relationships, and they be kind of serious. Oh.
Yo, this nigga just gets a...

Speaker 1 Somebody says some serious shit. Mona just sitting there, like,

Speaker 1 yo, listen, baby girl, these niggas is like stray cats.

Speaker 1 What? Yo, just give them some warm milk, tuck them in. I'm like, yo, fam, off the top of her head, just some wild bullshit.
Everybody in the whole arena just starts laughing because they be serious.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. She just gives the whole comedic about fucking broke dudes.
Oh, that shit had me rolling. Yo, bro, she's in PlayStation, my nigga.
I like a Mona relationship advice.

Speaker 1 I was in there hollering.

Speaker 1 No, I did. I went to the early show.
I was supposed to go to the late show.

Speaker 1 They gave me tickets. I let my girl and her friends go to the late show.

Speaker 1 Audience, we're talking about tonight's conversation. That is a touring.

Speaker 1 I don't want to call them a podcast. It's a show.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a touring show. They live in a road, they make a lot of money, make a killing, bringing huge crowds.

Speaker 1 So shout out to them. Isha spoke there.
Fucking. Shit was packed, bro.
It was at the Javit Center, too. It was at the Javits.
So, for those New York, that's a huge place.

Speaker 1 Shout out to them, yeah. They sold out, they sold out the agenda.
Selling out the Javits is crazy. That giving you ideas, Joe?

Speaker 1 No, but we could be in the Javits and selling out. Yeah, y'all would charge me more than y'all would tonight's conversation, too.

Speaker 1 That's possible. That's Jay, that's true.
Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 You leaked the news, yo.

Speaker 1 You shouldn't have leaked it out. That's the problem.
You shouldn't have leaked it. That's the problem.
I'm taking you to the bank.

Speaker 1 Leave me out.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to still show up, too, all the bullshit. Hey, yo.
No, the Javit Center is no small. It's no.
Nah, not at all.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Dre and Lex. Dre and Lex perform.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we're at in the Javing. Now I'm in the business.

Speaker 1 What was the best? So

Speaker 1 I went to the show a couple years ago. I think they was in a 3,500 seater.
They sold out that for two or three days in a row. And the other day, I think they did the 4,4500.

Speaker 1 So they had an 8 o'clock show that sold out. Immediately, they had to get another show at 4 o'clock.
So they originally didn't have a four o'clock show, but they sold out to eight.

Speaker 1 And that's when you went to 9,000 tickets. That's amazing.
That's what I'm saying. That's crazy.
Crazy. That's 9,000 tickets.
Even if you're a teacher, 8,000 away for free.

Speaker 1 That's 8,000 of them, motherfuckers. How much was tickets? How much tickets cost? Next year, they fuck around be a radio C.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Shout out to that. I think their highest ticket might be like 350, 400.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 Because they got like the meet and greet super VIP. You can take pictures all over the place.
I'm seeing the dudes prior to it.

Speaker 1 That's like a lot of money. Nah, but shout out to all of them.
Cheyenne Bryant was there.

Speaker 1 Mandy was on the thing. Mona was like.
Wait, Mike. It was dope.
Go slow. I was like,

Speaker 1 don't speed over everything. It's not going to help.
Yeah, not at all. I love you, Ashley.
So, Dr. Cheyenne Bryant was there.

Speaker 1 Did she recognize the real one when she saw one? Shout out to her. I didn't see her.

Speaker 1 You just heard she was there.

Speaker 1 That's my little story.

Speaker 1 Disappointing.

Speaker 1 I'm mad.

Speaker 1 Now I got to resort back to my Mandy jokes.

Speaker 1 I saw Mandy and Mona in the video. They made a funny funny little internet video as well.
So it seemed like everybody was mingling and connecting. Yeah.
That's dope.

Speaker 1 You didn't get to see the show itself. I saw, I got there late.
So how they break it down? They break it into three sections. Half an hour, half an hour, half an hour.
They'll change the panelists.

Speaker 1 For each show. For each segment of one show.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like that.
So when I got there, I got there. Traffic was crazy on Saturday.

Speaker 1 I got there for the four o'clock show at like five o'clock. And if you listen,

Speaker 1 traffic is crazy in New York on Saturday. No, it's not.
If there was some way to know that ahead of time.

Speaker 1 You traffic.

Speaker 1 That traffic shit kills me.

Speaker 1 But no, it was worse than normal.

Speaker 1 Okay. How about that? Well, Saturday was really nice.
It was. Weather-wise.
No, I know. Weather-wise.
This is what happened. I was supposed to go with Imani.
Imani was supposed to go.

Speaker 1 Yo, Imani like Max B.

Speaker 1 We're going to have to talk. We'll talk later.
I was supposed to go with Imani. Imani was shooting his podcast.
So I went there, watched Imani. Shout out to Imani shooting his podcast.

Speaker 1 When the podcast is over. Oh, with that really funny, attractive comedian girl.
Probably why he couldn't get up with you. So the nigga tells me, yo, dog, I ain't go to bed till six.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? I said, yo, my. You left my house by four.
You had me sitting here under the guys that we going together. Yo, I can't go.
So you just watched the podcast for nothing?

Speaker 1 Basically.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? It was funny, though, but shout to them. I haul last to New York.
It said 40 minutes. It took me like an hour and 40 minutes.

Speaker 1 It was crazy.

Speaker 1 I got to run through the whole contact list.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 That's one class. That was a long time.
That was one quarter for my boy. Somebody was getting to like going up here for him.

Speaker 1 Idiot, bro.

Speaker 1 Because you can't just sit in traffic and chill. Who can't? You.
Nah, Jay-Z.

Speaker 1 Stop it. It's just me, nigga.
It's Jay-Me.

Speaker 1 The fuck you talking to, Jay-Z.

Speaker 1 All right, well, I'm glad you had a good time. No, it was cool.
Glad you had a good time up there. It certainly looked like a lot of fun.
Shout out to Mona for killing it. I'll get an invite one day.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Show love.
From who? Begging. After these Jacob Javis.

Speaker 1 Goddamn right. I know what I'm a Charles, nigga.
You should have called me, man. They're going to think I'm trippy.

Speaker 1 I wonder if he's mad.

Speaker 1 Not mad, that's the wrong word. I don't know.
I think Trip is content doing what he doing.

Speaker 1 As content creators, we don't talk talk about, that's what we, I don't want to talk about him no more. But as content creators, when we say, yo, we just content with what we're doing.

Speaker 1 Content, content, yeah, but you said

Speaker 1 it's crazy. Because content creators just be lying, man.
When you make the wrong decision, you can say it. You ain't got to say that.
I don't say no.

Speaker 1 But sometimes you're like, yo, I'm happier now. Sometimes you got to stand in there.
Yo.

Speaker 1 Yo, I'm so much happier.

Speaker 1 You know, you fucked up. You got to stay.
No, you got to stand in the shit. Or you got to go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 Okay. Sometimes you gotta do that.
Or the blessing might show itself later. That's what I'm saying.
Like the next thing might be. True, but if you the person, I've been in that spot.

Speaker 1 Later, gotta hurry.

Speaker 1 Later, gotta hurry up. I got people that time frame with you.
I got an hour later. I got people out here that's judging me because shit look away.
I gotta know I got some shit in that nine months.

Speaker 1 But right this second. It's like somebody saying, yo, you dropped the ball at one complex or you dropped the ball with

Speaker 1 Spotify. No.
And they said that. And guess what they're saying now? He that nigga.
Yeah, but in that gap, bro. I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 They just started, and it's real.

Speaker 1 It's maybe 10% of people that say nice stuff about me publicly. And that just started.

Speaker 1 I can believe that. That just started.
That don't mean they don't think you get no brand new audience.

Speaker 1 It was so awesome. It was so awesome.
You know, one of the phrases I hate? Like, when somebody drops a ball on opportunity or something or leaves something, they be like, what's meant for me is.

Speaker 1 I hate that phrase. I hate that.

Speaker 1 I was screaming about that shit phrase. I love that phrase.
I know.

Speaker 1 No, because if it just the other opportunity the other opportunity was meant for you you just decided to do something else yes yeah the other every like but i feel like when people

Speaker 1 i feel like when people say what's i feel like right now i leave here or whatever happened

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 i'm on the internet like yo if it was meant for me it was meant for me yo flip fucked up yeah let's say he up and did some dumb shit thank you my name and then he don't need your help i don't need your help

Speaker 1 and he leaves and then he's like yo what's meant for me it's

Speaker 1 I feel like people use that to mask or negate from

Speaker 1 I agree with what y'all are saying that people do.

Speaker 1 I disagree with what y'all are saying the meaning is. It applies for even when you do bad shit.
That's what the saying is there for.

Speaker 1 I fucked up. I did something bad.
What's going to come from that is going to come from that. I did it.
What's meant for me is going to come for me. It ain't meant for you.

Speaker 1 I think, I don't know, y'all, I'm fence straddling, but I think y'all are both correct.

Speaker 1 I think y'all are both correct.

Speaker 1 I think there's a way to use that to make sense of the world and that your destiny is your destiny. But I think some people use it as a crutch and as an excuse to not take accountability.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Like they'll do something fucked up and then they'll say, oh, it just meant for me. No, nigga, you came to work high.

Speaker 1 You spit your boss. You push it.
You hit your boss and the fucking figure. I'm like, I gotta use the hammer.

Speaker 1 You spit me over your mouth.

Speaker 1 I like the nigga using it as a crutch. Because again, that's what you, that's what I'm using that to push forward.

Speaker 1 No, you using that almost as an excuse for being in the position you're in.

Speaker 1 like it's happening.

Speaker 1 But at the same time, I'm not stuck right here. Yo, that was meant for me, it's meant for me.
I'm not there no more. Stop asking me about it.
It's not meant for me. I'm not there.

Speaker 1 Whatever happened, cool. I'm on this now.
Yeah, I mean, as I said, I think I like it. I think it depends on how you use it.
That's all I'm saying. It just depends on how you use it.

Speaker 1 And I don't believe in fate. So I believe we make our fate.
I don't believe in fate. So when the niggas be like, yo, what's meant for me mean you already had this predetermined destiny?

Speaker 1 I don't believe that. Me personally, I'm not knocking nobody that does.
So what's meant for me? No, you make what's meant for you, in my opinion. I agree a little bit.

Speaker 1 I agree too. I agree with that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Y'all look, y'all think I'm ready to argue. No.

Speaker 1 Y'all look at me. Dude, we know you're on the outside.

Speaker 1 I'm just looking for the A-Mic to progress the conversation. Because

Speaker 1 I got it. All right.

Speaker 1 Outside is meant for me.

Speaker 1 What's meant for me is meant for me. It's also what's meant for you is meant for you.

Speaker 1 Where do y'all stand on that one? I don't understand. I don't know.
Yeah, you just, yeah, you did some rapping shit. Yeah, you did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You did some.
You bodied it.

Speaker 1 What's for me is for me, and what's for you is for you. Right.
Y'all never heard that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and that's how I use it. That's how I use it.
Explain. So, like,

Speaker 1 I hate to, so when I got fired for seeing it, like, there's a way to make sense of that. I had to say that that's not my journey.

Speaker 1 I could have made a different choice that day, and I probably would still be working there and make a lot of money and blah, blah, blah, but that wasn't for me. That's for them.
Let them do that.

Speaker 1 I got my own destiny. It's going to take me where I need to be.

Speaker 1 That's cool. I think that's how you use it, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The problem is, I got friends to use that might punch their boss in the face. And then instead of saying, you know what, I could have made a better choice

Speaker 1 in the future, they just be like, oh, it wasn't for me. It wasn't my destiny.
Like, no, nigga, you made a bad choice. And some people use it to not have to take up accountability for the bad choice.

Speaker 1 Both can be true. I made a bad choice.
And that wasn't my destiny, but they don't see it as both. And

Speaker 1 they only focus on the. All right, I get what you're saying.
I use it as the and. I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 Max B is home. Yes.
Max B is home.

Speaker 1 Let me hit the round of applause.

Speaker 1 When all of us don't applaud at the same time, it looks like the Jennifer Hudson show when they all don't love the guests that came.

Speaker 1 And it's like four people in the hallway.

Speaker 1 Yes. I've never seen that.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Shit. If the guests ain't lit, it's seven niggas in that little space.
It'd be like a janitor in there clapping it.

Speaker 1 What is somebody fuck with? It'd be like the EP and they'd be like, 100, 100.

Speaker 1 That Foster nigga, I think every person in the whole staff was in that hallway. Right.
Yes. Dead ass.

Speaker 1 Trump come through, they be like, oh.

Speaker 1 Trump. Did y'all?

Speaker 1 They didn't even make it a song. Right.

Speaker 1 What'd you say, Freeze? Did y'all see Morgan Freeman? Come down to the Morgan. I did.
I might be missing one, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I did. I did.
What'd you got to say, bro? He was part of my top nigga. I was asking asking if you saw it.
Did you see it? I saw it. What do you do that freeze? I was just asking if y'all saw it.

Speaker 1 He was part of my topic.

Speaker 1 Even Mark wouldn't do this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, it just didn't see it.

Speaker 1 I'm well aware that he was in that tunnel.

Speaker 1 Now, whether Morgan Freeman.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Stop. Stop.
You know what? So you would. So even Mark would do it, huh?

Speaker 1 Yo, you were dealing with that shit to where they're saying that.

Speaker 1 I heard the rumor. What's the rumor? I don't know this rumor.
That there's another Morgan Freeman. Oh.

Speaker 1 Fuck up. No.

Speaker 1 Okay. He's old.
I thought the Morgan Freeman on the spirit tunnel, honestly, was adorable. He was an older man.

Speaker 1 He clearly wasn't familiar with

Speaker 1 what they do every time. He was actually shocked to see all those people there, and his heart was warmed, and he came down the tunnel.
I thought it was great.

Speaker 1 Morgan Freeman is 88 years old, I want to say. That was a goal.
That was a goal. And Morgan Freeman is one of the black people that get a pass.

Speaker 1 You should be.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so give it to him. But he got it.
Freeze. He got the pass password going down the tunnel.
Listen to me, what's that called? The spirit tunnel, yeah,

Speaker 1 freeze, most days.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, Morgan's doing all right, man. Come on, man.
He said, I ain't thinking of the pass.

Speaker 1 Morgan down there.

Speaker 1 No, when you tell somebody 88, they're going down a spirit tunnel.

Speaker 1 They get a little nervous.

Speaker 1 Yo, 88. Are you crazy?

Speaker 1 That's a damn shit.

Speaker 1 Walk toward that light right now.

Speaker 1 Come on, I'm back on it. Come down.
I was like,

Speaker 1 Morgan would have turned his ass around and felt like he was just short-shaped attention. Lock me back up, nigga.

Speaker 1 Get the fuck off.

Speaker 1 Yo, hold on, wait, listen.

Speaker 1 I'm mad at you because that was my topic, my favorite actors getting old, nigga. Oh, that was what?

Speaker 1 What's up with nigga named from Clue? The nigga named from Clue, man.

Speaker 1 The guy that the butler from Clue. Oh, oh, fuck.
I know you're talking about it. Terry Sumps.
I saw him in a wheelchair. That shit fucked me up.
Any of y'all know the butler from Clue?

Speaker 1 Oh, Curry. Curry Sucker.
That's some wild shit.

Speaker 1 Terry, something Curry. Something Curry, I think.
Okay. Joe, you know what I'm talking about? Tim Curry.
Watch this one. Tim Curry.
Tim Curry. Thank you.
Tim Curry. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 I saw him in a wheelchair. That shit hurt me, yo.
I don't know him. You know him.
I'm still sad. I'm sad.
I'm with you. I'm sad about fucking

Speaker 1 Bruce Willis.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a tough one.

Speaker 1 That's hard to.

Speaker 1 It's medical, though. I'm not laughing at Bruce Willis.
I'm still laughing at this. I don't think it's hard.
Oh, yeah, no, no, no. Bruce Willis is actually heartbreaking.
Yeah, it's fucked up already.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, it's a few of them. Flip it's right.
Yeah. Yeah, no, that's a, that's a tough.
That's a tough thing. Nigga, we getting old, nigga.
Facts. Right.

Speaker 1 You think that they have all this money that they could preserve or live longer or do something?

Speaker 1 Whether it's wealth don't buy health. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Wealth don't buy health. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But look, if you live the Hollywood life and you still up at 88, you straight. you kind of did you made it to 90 bro, and you still walking around you still got most of your faculties.
That's not bad.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Look at Sister Lee Titan.

Speaker 1 Like it's niggas at 58 that you know what I'm saying? Shit crazy. You think I got you dog?

Speaker 1 It's smart. It's smart.

Speaker 1 He thinks I'm cracking on him now.

Speaker 1 I'm good, bro. You put your fans together.
You smart. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 How old are you? 38? Oh, girl, I'm good. By the time I'm 60, by the time I was 80, boy.
The other day I was doing math. I'm like, hmm,

Speaker 1 if this bride keeps riding for another,

Speaker 1 say,

Speaker 1 six years, seven years. Nigga, we gonna look like

Speaker 1 old homes. That's 400 million for you.
In seven years?

Speaker 1 400 more. If God is good.

Speaker 1 All the time. If God, stop, because you make

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 That's how you get on tonight's conversation. That's it.

Speaker 1 He made them niggas shoot at me.

Speaker 1 Joe. Joe's gonna get 400 million.
Joe ain't got shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're gonna look like the old folks on in seven years. I mean, but I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 That's the goal, my nigga.

Speaker 1 I keep saying it. That's the goal.

Speaker 1 I don't have no problem looking old. I don't care.
I'm telling you, we'll be the roll of stones out of this motherfucker.

Speaker 1 I look back at how many motherfuckers I went to high school with that's not here. Barshed up.
Just high school. No, not here.
They didn't make it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If we here in seven more years, nigga, I'll fucking throw my walker at this nigga. Cross the fucking.

Speaker 1 Throw a camera. I can send me a nigga.
Oh, yeah. They'll be like the niggas of life.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Both of y'all. I ain't fucking with you.

Speaker 1 Man, he knows how to trigger you. I know.
You be trying not to. No, the same triggers ain't going to work because he ain't going to work no more.

Speaker 1 I'll play with you now. He'll be 57.

Speaker 1 In eight years, the same things won't trigger him because. They make stuff for that.
That thing will be. That thing will be.
They make stuff for that.

Speaker 1 They make stuff for that. Blueprint.

Speaker 1 When you've been taking that stuff since you was 15. Not that nigga monkey.

Speaker 1 When you was taking that stuff since 15. It don't work when it's supposed to work.

Speaker 1 It don't work when it's supposed to work. When you've been taking it since young, that little gas station product.

Speaker 1 What did I get? The niggas was fucked up. Your niggas was fucked up.
Don't let them play like that. I'm good.
Listen,

Speaker 1 Max B is on. Max B is.
Max B is home.

Speaker 1 No, he's not.

Speaker 1 He's out of jail. Yeah.
He's not home. Max, welcome home.
Congratulations. 16 years.
It's crazy. It's good to see L V there.
It's good to see French there.

Speaker 1 Some of the people that were there when he went in at the court cases and all that.

Speaker 1 And I can't speak to what he should or shouldn't be doing because, shit, you do 16 years, you do what the fuck you want with that. You haven't been sitting around for 16 years.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be outside. I'm going to the chess game.
I'm going to go. Outside.

Speaker 1 He's having the time of his life.

Speaker 1 Listen, the Jets won because he was there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Second wing.

Speaker 1 I absolutely love Method Man as a

Speaker 1 photographer for the Jets. I love that.
I didn't know that was after that. I didn't know that either.
Yeah, Method Man was taking pictures of Mac, Mac, Max B. Oh, okay.
And he had the

Speaker 1 official.

Speaker 1 He was on the other side. He had the long lens.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. I thought that was so funny.

Speaker 1 I thought it was joking. Like, wait, that's Methore? I was like, oh, shit.
Oh, that's fire. No, I probably wouldn't joke about that.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, not you.

Speaker 1 No more of that, please. No, and I saw it because Marshawn Lynch was doing that too.
It was a couple folks. And I thought that was fun.
I think that's dope. It's a couple folks that's like

Speaker 1 NFL photographers. I'm so glad me and Meth beasted up.
I seen that nigga at Monday Night Royal. He's tall, sitting down.

Speaker 1 Yeah. When niggas is tall, sitting down, it's like, all right, dog.
He in shape, too. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I know.
He started his gym journey a little earlier. Way earlier.
Way earlier.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Shout out to Meth.
Shout out to Meth.

Speaker 1 What do y'all think? I love it. I told y'all I love it.
And I disagree with y'all, but not on the Max B topic. Nigga, outside, look germy.

Speaker 1 Nigga, he was just at this very jermy.

Speaker 1 It's like Jeremy or whatever. You was looking at gray walls with niggas got.

Speaker 1 Yo, you celebrity. Ryan Ra was here on the wall.
No, I get that. Again, I'm not talking about Max B.
Max B can go wherever he wants. I'm not really talking about him.

Speaker 1 Any picture I've ever seen of a rapper at Harbor,

Speaker 1 it looks Jeremy.

Speaker 1 I've never been in it. Me neither.

Speaker 1 I have to imagine that first shit on a nice toilet is going to be fantastic. What if I was to ask y'all? Like, if, let's assume sex is there.
First shit on a little metal toilet for 16 years.

Speaker 1 Those are the worst toilets ever. They just see the smart toilet.
Right. Oh, shit, it dudes.

Speaker 1 Fuck him up. He's going to punch that shit.

Speaker 1 Fuck you, dog. French fiancé looks so confused to be

Speaker 1 at all of these places. It's like, what? Where are we from?

Speaker 1 All right, never mind. Forget it.
Y'all want to be. All right.
I get it. I see.
I see what's going on. I'll shut up.
Go ahead. Go ahead.
She's a rider, nigga. That's what I said.
Salute.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the French. Yeah.
Yo, for real. For real.
When y'all come home, assuming sex is the first thing on the table, just assuming that.

Speaker 1 What's stop number two if you did that much time? Food.

Speaker 1 Yeah, food.

Speaker 1 You got to give me some good food as soon as we come out.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 because the funny part is, I'm eating on the ride home. Good food could be Popeyes.
Nigga, you've been locked up for 15 years. Yeah, you probably.

Speaker 1 Some stupid shit that we take for granted is a delicacy to them. You know what I mean? Some wild.
You crazy?

Speaker 1 I need some Chinese food from the from the hoods yeah man i ain't gonna hold you you could tell he ain't gonna get he ain't gonna get class i'm gonna get it one day not yet though not yet

Speaker 1 he ain't gonna get no baby school one day one day but yeah fresh out here yeah food i'm i'm family family yeah i'm going home i'm staying home i'm gonna get pussy for a full day

Speaker 1 She gonna get up and cook. I don't know about that.
And then I'm going to, then I'm going, I'm staying home. I'm enjoying my house.
Nigga, that nigga ain't going to get no pussy for the full day.

Speaker 1 That nigga was at the gas station with me early.

Speaker 1 Fuck you talking about, nigga. That ain't gonna have a heart attack on one of the pills.

Speaker 1 Fuck you talking about. That ain't gonna get a 20-minute nut and go right.

Speaker 1 Fuck you talking about, nigga.

Speaker 1 That sounds good, though. That sounds good.

Speaker 1 I would be in the house and with family. That's my answer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm doing that first. Then I'm going outside.
Fucking airplane. Partner says, You ain't staying home.
What?

Speaker 1 I gotta go see some music. I gotta go dance something.

Speaker 1 I ain't even thinking about going to like the live music. That should be live music.

Speaker 1 Now check a few boxes. Seemingly, French is up.

Speaker 1 So that nigga had a welcome party. Just, yo, nigga, we not even taking you home.
Yeah. We out.
Let's go get you jewelried up. Let's go get a car for you.

Speaker 1 He probably already had a car on a release. Like, yeah.
You know, self-centeredness is at the core of my disease.

Speaker 1 I would tap them after the jewelry stop. I would do the jewelry stop.

Speaker 1 I would go get laced up, go see whoever we see, drape me down, and take me home, please.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, take me to the Louis store, too.

Speaker 1 Why? Gotta get right.

Speaker 1 You gotta get right. It's the last thing on your mind is some clothes.
No, no.

Speaker 1 They got them right.

Speaker 1 They got them right. No, nigga, I know.

Speaker 1 That wouldn't have been on my mind.

Speaker 1 You would have been showing up. I would have been outside.

Speaker 1 You should show up with the clothes. Like, when I picked people up from prison, I come with the clothes.
My brother had a shit if I showed him a clothes. Had a jewelry, had a clothes, had a car.

Speaker 1 Now you got to pick what jewelry you want. No, no,

Speaker 1 I mean, it looked like he didn't pick that jewelry.

Speaker 1 That was shit that was could be. They had for him.
He can get more. And

Speaker 1 after nothing,

Speaker 1 he's going to go wild. He's going to go crazy when he gets to pick a shit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's been away for a while, so he might not be up to snuff on what is what. Right.
So I'm going to let you in the beginning. Well, I guess it would depend on, I don't, what are his plans?

Speaker 1 We We don't know his plans.

Speaker 1 From the looks of things, it looked like he's trying to get back lit. He told me

Speaker 1 what he called it here. He said

Speaker 1 he said at the Jets game, too. He's like, I am coming back to make my.

Speaker 1 I want to be lonely now here. Like, I'm getting into the music.
Yeah. We're going to straight to it.

Speaker 1 I'm hearing that they're saying he would like to get with cash, Cash Cobain, and these niggas. Okay.
And I like what he said. Like, these are people that they say they grew up on my sound.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, now let them work with the OG.

Speaker 1 I love it, and they lit.

Speaker 1 That's that's the that's the right move for me, yeah.

Speaker 1 And to put the ball in their court, they kind of not like you got to do it, but it's the right thing to do, but they will want to, yeah, yeah, they want to, they want to, and it's the right thing to do.

Speaker 1 I need to hear Wiz and Max. That's all.

Speaker 1 I don't care, I don't care when it happens. Is your heart gonna be broken if it don't sound like it did 20 years ago? It'll sound like that.
Will my heart be broken? Yes, it needs to be.

Speaker 1 Okay, that answered the question. I'll answer the question, yes.
But he was putting out solid sounding shit from jail, so I had to hear it. Exactly.
And like I said, Wiz Last Project, yes,

Speaker 1 I think they can do it. That's what I need to hear.

Speaker 1 Wiz Last Project was hard. It was.
I think if Max gets with the right niggas and start talking the right shit, I think his sound and style just

Speaker 1 him. Some people got it and some people got it.
Yeah, even if he didn't make music, he just as a personality. Oh, he could be a content creator and go crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he's going to be a hit no matter what. I just don't know if

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 means music. Shit.
Music is going to work for him. A lot of the shit that he was doing back then is what people have been doing since.
So that shit is going to work. All that sing-songy shit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just happy for him and his family. Absolutely.
Happy for his kids.

Speaker 1 I almost teared up when the kids was the first one to hug him. I had to put the phone down a little bit.
And I'm like, hey, bye wait it. Let them get that.

Speaker 1 I like that. Even that, though.
Again, I'm aware that I'm talking from the perspective of an introvert.

Speaker 1 Don't bring the whole bunch of niggas to Hudson County. Pick me up.
They wasn't hudson. I feel you.
I know. I'm talking about just all for you.

Speaker 1 Don't come bring no hundred niggas to jail to get me. Nah, not for me.
Not for me. My mom.
I know y'all excited. Yeah, my mom.
I know y'all love me. I'm not engaged to my girl.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was.

Speaker 1 Nah, my girl. I don't even want my mom out there in the parking lot.
It's going to take them 19 hours to let me out this motherfucker. Yo, that is true.

Speaker 1 Your mom's going to be down in that vending machine. Ain't got nothing.
Nah, nigga, you think you're getting out at one o'clock? Yeah. Ain't no stopers in there.

Speaker 1 We got her early, so they wasn't there that long. Get out that bitch at 10:39 p.m.

Speaker 1 Family been out there for 14. You're like, This is some bullshit.
And I got to come out and whack it first, too. I can't get straight into a pussy.

Speaker 1 You've been whacking it for 16 years.

Speaker 1 You've been whacking it.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, as soon as you come out, you get some pussy. Nah, you ain't gonna make me come in a millisecond.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I want to.

Speaker 1 Joe, you can whack it. It's a woman holding you, scratching you.

Speaker 1 Nigga, that ain't what that fifi did.

Speaker 1 You're crazy, nigga, but you got to.

Speaker 1 You got to get the first one. Watch why.
You got to get the first out. You got to get Fifi with the batteries.

Speaker 1 He came home to his woman, so

Speaker 1 you know what this is? Yeah. If you come, if you.
We're going to go again, my nigga. What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Either somebody you don't give a fuck about, in which case you don't give a fuck, or it's your lady, she's expecting it to be. She's going to be disappointed if it's not two seconds.

Speaker 1 No, I'm talking shit. I'm talking shit.
That's the point.

Speaker 1 If I come home and I'm fucking for 20 minutes, after

Speaker 1 How long till we get some music, do you think? Soon. Very soon.
A week. Oh, yeah, it was in the studio.
Yeah, very soon. I might get some music next week.
Yeah. Yeah.
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 Fam, that nigga don't want to go to sleep.

Speaker 1 I want to get right to it. He, yo, that nigga got 16 years of plans, dreams.
He probably got an outline. He probably got mad stuff.

Speaker 1 And he's been keeping abreast of all the music that's out. He probably got cadences.

Speaker 1 For sure. Yeah.
He's been releasing music. He's ready.
Yeah. I've never met a rapper that went to jail that came home from jail and didn't have a hundred fucking concept books around.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mad shit memorized.
You didn't got to read it off the paper. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to lie. When Wayne came home, that shit was fire, yo.
He put all them jail raps on slaps. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's when fucking that six foot seven and all that shit start dropping.

Speaker 1 But the rappers outside knew. Like we knew because he was only going in for a year.
Nine months. Eight, nine months.
He was the best when he went in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now you give him time to just sit down and write. Think.
Nigga, he's going to come out and get with Bangladesh and it's going to be, we got to be quiet for a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's always great too when rappers know that you got to chill out. Like just go, go home.
Go hide for a little bit. Shout out to Max B, man.
Shout out to French.

Speaker 1 again his family friends kids i know y'all been waiting a long time for that man and as fans we have as well so

Speaker 1 yeah what's for him is for him he deserves everything that's coming to him for sure uh what else needs our attention what else is important i'm a little riled up over the dable firing but we can get to sports later riled up good or riled up bad uh i don't like it me i don't like it either me i don't like it i don't like it we'll talk about it later we'll talk about it yeah uh what else needs our attention oh and sebastian tellfier we got a lot of sports shit yeah um but what else is not really sports shit, but anywho, yeah, it's project shit, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah. Anybody watch the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

Speaker 1 I saw clips, I saw the performance, I saw the Outcast tribute. I watched, I watched the whole thing, but I fast-forwarded through a lot because it was like four and a half hours long.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a lot. They got Ti-Vo.

Speaker 1 Uh, it was Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 I'm old as hell.

Speaker 1 I DVR'd it.

Speaker 1 TiVo. How was it?

Speaker 1 It was, well, Salt and Pepper shit shit was amazing. Yeah, that was the best one.

Speaker 1 Outcast shit was.

Speaker 1 Wow, I was disappointed. The speeches were great, but the performances, first of all, Andre didn't perform.
Big Boy did. He opened up with

Speaker 1 Jid

Speaker 1 doing Andre's part, and that was great. But then Doja Cat came out to do Miss Jackson

Speaker 1 and fucked it all up. And she was just doing the bridge part.
I was appalled in my house. Me and your dog.
Yes. Okay.
And just did not know any of the words.

Speaker 1 Flubbed it on a fucking major stage. I don't understand.
I don't understand. Yeah, I don't get it.
I've seen a lot of people do that. Like at the tributes and shit.

Speaker 1 If I'm doing a tribute to LL, if I'm doing a tribute to Eminem, fam, you know for weeks that you're going to do the tribute. Right.
Hit the fucking words. And I've asked artists that.

Speaker 1 question before like how do y'all fuck that up and the answer is that i seem to get most

Speaker 1 no is that you think you know it's like when you do karaoke and you think you know a song until you have to sing it without the without somebody else singing it with you they overestimate their preparation they underprepare because they think they already know but the DJ was hype manning her

Speaker 1 and there was vocals in the background track so all you had to do also don't think that

Speaker 1 uh their casting list consisted of a bunch of people who loved outcasts well i i will say tyler the creator came out and did bombs over back then

Speaker 1 he fucking smoked that shit he sounded like somebody loved outcast and knew like he was he was gesturing to the world like Like, he knew the words. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 It wasn't just like, I learned this song for this performance. Like, he embodied that performance.
Tyler also loves hip-hop. He does.
Yeah, but they're looking for star power.

Speaker 1 Of course.

Speaker 1 I get it.

Speaker 1 You accepted the role. Right.
Learn the words.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And you're an artist.
How hard is it for you to memorize raps? It ain't shit for you. It's muscle.
No, that's not true. Depending on the rap.
Depending on the rap.

Speaker 1 But that part, the bridge is easy, bro.

Speaker 1 It's muscle memory for you after you get in the game. I was happy she was fucking it up.

Speaker 1 I was fucking it up with her.

Speaker 1 Going on.

Speaker 1 That shit.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's just

Speaker 1 what she did, though. This is not.
It was two seconds where I was like, hmm, am I wrong or is she who's wrong here?

Speaker 1 Someone doesn't know the words to this.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 But Jit did well doing Andre, doing elevators. I think it was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he smoked it. He smoked it.
I would expect nothing less. Salt and pepper shit was amazing.

Speaker 1 And sad. Why?

Speaker 1 Well, for the announcement during the speech, where they was like,

Speaker 1 and I think that actually goes to the conversation that we've had up here when we were ranking salt and pepper. Like, I feel like they kind of enough for them.
They kind of get

Speaker 1 underappreciated. And that may be because their shit hasn't been on streaming this whole time.
Yo, dog.

Speaker 1 I said that was the argument I made before. Yeah.
Like, yo, fam, we don't have all these female artists if there's no salt and pepper. Yeah, for sure.
What was the announcement?

Speaker 1 The no, their shit is on streaming, and they're battling for it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they're not being talked about and haven't been paid for quite some time. All this time, is we in the rock and roll hall of fame, and we're not getting paid.

Speaker 1 They're suing UMG. We spoke on this.
Yeah, we did. There is, I think it's 35 years.

Speaker 1 After 35 years in their contract, they were supposed to be able to get their rights, get their masters back. And UMG is not trying to give their masters back to them.
Now, the 35 years have passed.

Speaker 1 So that's what this lawsuit is over. And what they're accusing UMG of is trying to basically tank the value by not putting it on any streaming, anything.

Speaker 1 So right now you can't even go listen to their music. That's crazy.
It's crazy. And they can't get it to put it up there themselves.
So it's like, our shit just don't exist.

Speaker 1 It's in the hands of somebody that shouldn't have it.

Speaker 1 And we just ask out.

Speaker 1 Fucked up industry, though, bro. It's really fucked up.
So I put a couple records out last month, one of which I thought was actually Disa in a video

Speaker 1 that I really liked. Yeah.
And she's like, I'm not putting, she's not even putting her individual music in other places as a protest to what's going on.

Speaker 1 So I'm hoping they get their rights back soon, man. It's insane.

Speaker 1 There was a video the other day that our girl Sinead Harnett put out where she was talking about her biggest song that we done played 90 million times would be If You Let Me.

Speaker 1 And she was saying how whatever deal she was in, she was very young,

Speaker 1 and she wasn't getting paid from her biggest song. She said a lot more than this, but the Cliff Note version was

Speaker 1 her stuff. She was saying, yo, as an independent act, it took me so long to even find a song that would be played.
So when I finally got one with If You Let Me, I wasn't being paid for it.

Speaker 1 And all these years go by, and now TikTok, somebody on TikTok has made a house version of the song.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 now I'm being paid. And now somebody's calling saying, hey, I do have royalties that they hid from me.
So

Speaker 1 it was beautiful what she said. It hurt, but it was beautiful to hear her get her just do the same with salt and pepper.
Y'all are absolutely right. Think about hip-hop royalty.

Speaker 1 I don't, no disrespect, I don't know what they do, but fam, they could be potentially like fucked up and in dire straits. And you got potential income that you can't get.

Speaker 1 You've devoted your life to hip-hop. And to be clear, these are massive fucking records.
This is not like they just were some underground group and were like crying, crocodile tears. Like

Speaker 1 they've been pushing

Speaker 1 multiple

Speaker 1 fucking records. What a man, shoop, all that.
Push it. It was smash hits.
Let's talk about sex. All that shit.
Oh, shoop alone. I mean, hey, Herbie Love Bug.
Shout out to Herbie Love Bug.

Speaker 1 And he performed with them, which was amazing to see. He was up there.
Yeah, and he accepted the award with them.

Speaker 1 That was great to see. Herbie Lovebug was him, him.
He was. Yes.
And don't get enough credit as a songwriter, as a producer, all that shit. It was funny seeing Ken Play come out.

Speaker 1 They did the beginning of the dance and then just never came back out. He did nothing.

Speaker 1 One of them niggas Achilles fucked up.

Speaker 1 Whole fucking Achilles show. He got that Achilles.
Get you. There was some, just

Speaker 1 Salt and Pepper and Warren Zeven.

Speaker 1 Ziva, I think. I'll never say that.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Were rewarded for awarded for musical influence. And then there were the performer categories.

Speaker 1 Bad Company was honored. Chubby Checker was honored.

Speaker 1 I was shocked that he wasn't already. Me too.

Speaker 1 You know, people being in there for like, sometimes people, I feel like every year there's people who be like, weren't they already in there?

Speaker 1 And they're in there for one category, but not for another. Because that happened last year with a couple people we were talking about.

Speaker 1 Cindy Lauper, Outcast, Soundgarden, Joe Coker, and the White Striker. Is it Cocker? I always come saying it wrong.
Thank you. The Joe Cocker performance was

Speaker 1 most people pronounce

Speaker 1 in the UK pronounce, they don't say Cocker or Cockburn, they say Coburn because it sounds like Cock, but I didn't, I never knew how to say his name. Okay, over here, we say Joe Cocker.

Speaker 1 Why the fuck is that? Is that the one nigga? Do you think what they say in the UK? He is British, but he's British.

Speaker 1 You ain't. Do you see why that would be a relevant point? You ain't.

Speaker 1 Just acknowledge you ain't no he's British.

Speaker 1 The Joe Cocker performance was probably the best of the night. It was the last one.
For For my friend, that one, that's the one.

Speaker 1 He has a couple other massive records that you might not know are attributed to him, and I'm John a blank, but there's several of them. Joe Cocker's British.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 All the White Soul guys are British, bro.

Speaker 1 And girls. He's saying.
God damn. The Sly Stone tribute at the beginning was amazing.
It was Maxwell. It was Quest Love.
It was...

Speaker 1 It was an array of artists that opened up with a Sly Stone tribute, which was also beautiful. It's totally worth watching.

Speaker 1 Like I said, it is long. You can skip around.
I'm going to watch it. The white stripes got inducted.
Shout out to Jack White. That performance was actually at the 21 Pilots.
You like white music.

Speaker 1 Is that the name of the kind of Pokish band? They actually bodied the.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they bodied that shit.

Speaker 1 They bodied.

Speaker 1 Shout out to everybody. I'm going to go check it out.

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch it. Yeah, no, it's definitely worth a watch.
And they're going to trim it down for January 1

Speaker 1 on ABC. So that four and a half version will probably turn into a two-hour version on ABC on New Year's Day.
A couple of the induction speeches were were really.

Speaker 1 We got plenty of space. Yeah, we got some money.
Jim Carrey was up there for like an hour. There was a bunch of people up there just rambling.
Iggy Pop was up there.

Speaker 1 It's like, all right, dog, I want to. Jim Carrey is really high on my favorite white people guy list.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did Soundguard.
He was like white Denzel to me.

Speaker 1 He brought Soundguard in, I believe, and it was good. It was just like, all right, dog.

Speaker 1 Enough. Yeah, we got it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, one of them award shows I was at

Speaker 1 in LA at the hotel, I was way too excited to see Kidd and Play in the lobby at the hotel. I don't blame you.
Why? That's Kidd and Play. No, it's good.
No, I'm saying, I love Kidd and Play.

Speaker 1 I get that, but it's one of those sightings.

Speaker 1 Like, if you were naming the people right now that you're going to get super excited to see, you might leave Kidd and Play off the list. Until you see him.
Until you see Kidd and Play.

Speaker 1 The one that did. And you saw them together? Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It ain't like catching one. You know what I mean? I caught both of y'all together.
That's true.

Speaker 1 I got to shout them niggas out, man. I don't really remember no Kidd and Play turmoil.
I don't want to age this this part out. I don't remember them beefing.

Speaker 1 And that's when Kid was the biggest rapper in the world.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, no, that's kind of dope.
Them dudes is fly. It was funny seeing Kid without the

Speaker 1 little hot.

Speaker 1 He got some little curl shit now.

Speaker 1 I don't know what was going on.

Speaker 1 And they were so sweet, yo.

Speaker 1 Like super sweet, humble, down-the-earth. fans of me and hip-hop and just oh shout out to the heads man shout out to the heads

Speaker 1 And congrats to everybody that made it in. Yeah, for sure.
What else? What else do we have?

Speaker 1 Did you think, oh, just one more question about that? Yeah. Like Chubby Checker, a couple people didn't show up, and we knew why.

Speaker 1 Some, like, with the white stripes, it was like some little bit of band turmoil. That's his, but Meg White is his

Speaker 1 wife. Yeah, and they thought she was coming.
He shouted her out, but she didn't come. But Chubby Checker didn't show up.
This is the question I asked.

Speaker 1 Chubby Checker didn't show up because he said he had a paid gig. Hey, man.
Hey, y'all not paying me to be here?

Speaker 1 Is that

Speaker 1 it? It might speak to the

Speaker 1 where am I at financially, bro. I might need that.

Speaker 1 That's what I took from it. I didn't take it as him dissing the rock and rocking.
I was just like, damn, I got bills.

Speaker 1 In my 80s, if I still got to take a working gig from this, that says a lot about how this industry treated me. I just thought that was important.
Like, Chubby Chucker didn't disrespect the event.

Speaker 1 It's like, he got to still be working. I just think that's crazy.

Speaker 1 Chaperone, our girl, brought in Cindy Lauper, and she couldn't read the teleprompter, so that was a bit of a struggle. It's like a 20 minute.
Cindy Lauper is white shaka con.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to go that far, but she was, she's got, she got a couple slaps that are

Speaker 1 going to get a bit of a car.

Speaker 1 I didn't mean talent-wise at all. Yes,

Speaker 1 absolutely. Cindy Lauper is exactly who I expect to go up there and not give a fuck about that teleprompter.
Yeah, her and the girl Ray bodied time after time, actually. That was dope.

Speaker 1 That was dope. That's a joke.

Speaker 1 If you love,

Speaker 1 I will be waiting. Yeah, my man Lou was trying to throw dirt on Cindy Lauper's name, but then they went through the slaps.
I mean, she might not have a ton of slaps, but her slaps are

Speaker 1 high-level slaps.

Speaker 1 Yeah, mad slaps.

Speaker 1 You can't do that to Cindy Lauper. In the 80s? Yeah.
You couldn't say shh. And just her style and like iconness, if that's a word, is

Speaker 1 unmatched. Yeah, no, she's one of them.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And she was a good vocalist, actually.

Speaker 1 She had a weird style, but she had range. Like, she could

Speaker 1 belt. I only appreciate Michael.
You say Michael. Michael was pissed off.
You say Michael. She was a good asshole.
Michael said, come on. That's a production.

Speaker 1 Michael's like,

Speaker 1 Michael was so mad. Everybody ain't good for every song.
She was all good at that one. She said, wow, wow, wow.
Michael said, oh,

Speaker 1 fuck everybody. I need a smoke break.

Speaker 1 I need a smoke, bro. I need a smoke break.
Hey, I think that shows time, nigga. Britch had them niggas.

Speaker 1 They were blaming British, too.

Speaker 1 They should show us more footage when artists ain't vibing. Yo, bro.

Speaker 1 Because I don't blame Michael Jackson. Michael's looking at the shit.
We hear it straight after the awards.

Speaker 1 It's late. I'm one take Sammy out this bitch.

Speaker 1 Like Stevie Wonder over there. Bodies lying.

Speaker 1 Why do we have to stay later because this bitch? No. And the other two.
And it was Huey Lewis. And Homeboy.
I think that's what's in there.

Speaker 1 There's a few people I thought you should be doing better. Now, who wants homeboy's Huey? I don't know.
But him. Bab, bad, bro.

Speaker 1 Nah, Bruce Springsteen was funking it up in this. Bro, Michael Jackson was over there looking at the patterns.
Noticing a pattern.

Speaker 1 They They said Stevie Wonder was able to do Bruce Springsteen's part for him.

Speaker 1 Like some ill shit they were saying about Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 1 He was AI before AI.

Speaker 1 Stevie Wonder could have done everybody part. Yeah, word.

Speaker 1 Michael was in the corner like, boy, if I was 20 pounds hell yeah.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 I don't know my man's name. Bruce Springsteen used to spray tan?

Speaker 1 Probably. He's from Jersey.
He's from the down shores. I'm not saying that.
What I mean we knew he was. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 White's in Jersey. do some spray tan.
Now I'm Jersey. He from down there.
Yeah. I know.

Speaker 1 That's where he's back.

Speaker 1 He looked a little darker during that whole bone

Speaker 1 in the U.S.

Speaker 1 I was born in the U.S.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yes, brother. Yo, that's where you got your mess from?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were, yo.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize you were paying homage to Jersey the whole time

Speaker 1 Asbury Park

Speaker 1 That's crazy yo long ranch

Speaker 1 Asbury Park

Speaker 1 Yo shout out to Asbury Park anytime I was it locked up or in a rehab dumb white boys from over there. I just respect it now.

Speaker 1 I ain't never been there But when niggas say they from Asbury Park I kind of got a good visual of what you niggas is like like the trenches in Asbury Park Jersey Jersey is big.

Speaker 1 I got to really explore Jerseys.

Speaker 1 They say it's some sundown towns out here. Nigga, I told y'all about the town.

Speaker 1 I never heard of those towns.

Speaker 1 They ain't far, nigga. 20 minutes away.
I saw a little bit of a bunch of people. For real,

Speaker 1 Bop

Speaker 1 Clark, by where I live. Damn, Miss.

Speaker 1 Oh, God damn.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 he walked right into this, bro. He did it.
That fence. He walked in, took his shoes off.

Speaker 1 Hey, buddy. Hey, dog.
Hey, boss. Yeah, yo, not far.
They ain't that far. Not far at all.
What are they gonna do if we drive down there?

Speaker 1 Oh, the cops. Yeah.
Oh, dog. The cops stopped us and said,

Speaker 1 nigga, the cops stopped us and was like, where y'all going? We're going to Atlantic City.

Speaker 1 Well, stay on the expressway. Don't come back.
When you come back, don't come through this way no more.

Speaker 1 Damn. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We just took the, it was like a back rope. A black rope.
You told me you were an informant? No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 He said, check me. Yo, dog.

Speaker 1 I'm one of y'all. He said, I'm a CI-44.

Speaker 1 I know, Freeze.

Speaker 1 Cole Freeze.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what I said. He popped the glove.

Speaker 1 Popped the glove compartment, got that white face out. No, Freeze got the white face in the car.

Speaker 1 In the trunk of some shit. Hold on, officer.
Give me a second. Nah, nah.
Yo, I got to do this prize picks ad, but we was talking about Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1 Did y'all see the fake Michael Jackson mad at the real Jackson that they casted to be fake Michael Jackson? I fortunately missed that. I saw that.
Thank you. he was mad.

Speaker 1 Not the one that was on the Broadway. Who's the fake? This is good.
Who's the fake? The Broadway dude? We don't know that he's

Speaker 1 mad because he didn't talk. He watched the trailer

Speaker 1 silently, made some faces, and in every blog that picked it up, was like, he mad. Look at this nigga.
Mad at the casting.

Speaker 1 He then replied and said that he wasn't mad. But if you watch it.
He was mad. He was a little talking.
He was mad. But what? That's like when old boy didn't get that

Speaker 1 Pac feature. The one that was running around looking like Tupac.

Speaker 1 Yo, I forgot about that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They were made of going to the basketball games, all that shit, looking like Tupac. And then when they did the Tupac movie, they got anybody but him.
The fake Michael Jackson does, he does look like

Speaker 1 Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1 But you don't get to be mad if the person they cast it is actually. He's explaining it to me.
Niggas

Speaker 1 just do Mike better than you.

Speaker 1 That's it. Could be that too.
Yo, don't. Even if he's.
It don't matter how good you look, if you can't act, if you can't do the part,

Speaker 1 even if he can't, it's my nephew. I'm hiring my nephew to do it.
You know, there's some stories. Is it a nephew?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's his nephew.

Speaker 1 I'm mad at y'all for thinking that Michael Jackson impersonators are reasonable, irrational. Like,

Speaker 1 why doesn't he just see it's his nephew? They're crazy people. Almost every Michael Jackson, they're like Elvis impersonators.
No disrespect. I don't want no smoke going on to y'all.
Or a money.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or a money. But like, they're crazy.
A lot of them start to think that they're Michael Jackson. So they're judging, they're not like, is this impersonator better than me?

Speaker 1 They're like, I'm Michael Jackson, and you're not doing a good job of being me. That's like the video they have.
I know I'm crazy. I agree with them.

Speaker 1 I wake up every day

Speaker 1 and I put on something and I go outside.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's fucking Mike.

Speaker 1 And Mike is dead. He ain't going to go to the same acne as me.

Speaker 1 Then guess who's Mike now?

Speaker 1 Sorry. You ain't seen it.
Sorry. It was a video with one of the Mike impersonators and he watching another Mike impersonator.
Yeah. Nigga standing in the crowd and shit like, yo, he's doing all right.

Speaker 1 It's me. Nigga, you not Mike.
That's what I'm saying. People crazy, yo.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 In my hometown in O'Mira, there's a Jimi Hendrix that is not Jimi Hendrix that I think, hopefully, he's still around.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Jimi Hendrix of Omira. He's not all the way from.

Speaker 1 Shocker. That's Jamie Hendrix.

Speaker 1 He'll tell you stories of like tour. Oh, all right.

Speaker 1 That's another level. That's another level.
Omira got that. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Some good stuff out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1 That the Joe and Ish pick fixed. Yeah, yeah.
Joe and ish. It's more like ish and ish.

Speaker 1 Joe and Ish picks. Joe and Ish picks.

Speaker 1 See what the Joe and Ish picks is hitting for now.

Speaker 1 All right, we are going with Jalen Warren for over 19 and a half receiving yards. That's ish man.
It's like Jalen Warren. Okay.
Sam Darnold for over three and a half rush yards.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 DK Metcalf, oh, it's getting scary. Over 51.5 receiving yards.
He's due for a bounce back. Yeah.
He's due for a bounce back. That could be one pass for him.
He due for a bounce back game.

Speaker 1 And Evan Ingram for more than 22.5 receiving yards.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Let me ask some Joe Spice on that. JT,

Speaker 1 whatever the fuck he feels like doing out there.

Speaker 1 Boy, he saved me from that Bo Nick's blunder Thursday night. I knew it was lit.
I started getting a bunch of texts. Oh man, JT, JT.
I opened that session and said 55 big fantasy points.

Speaker 1 God damn. Oh, Tanner.
PPR. I played them.
PPR. I played Tanner.
He had them. Oh, my Lord.

Speaker 1 Nah, but you know how good it feels as a fantasy owner? Because that game was 9 a.m. Yeah, it was an early joint.

Speaker 1 Match over. And Berlin, I think.
Hey, before one o'clock start, I want my fantasy matchup to be what it is. I don't even think I watched football this quick ass.

Speaker 1 I didn't watch it either. I did.
Yo, him and

Speaker 1 A. Shane.
How many

Speaker 1 of you are saying?

Speaker 1 He's nice. A-Chane and Waddles.

Speaker 1 They're doing a little bit. Yeah, they're doing a little bit.
And I was coaching y'all.

Speaker 1 And then, like, he drove by the Bills bar and trolled them afterwards. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's a Bills bar down in Miami, so he pulled the butt. He lived right by there, he said.
So he pulled by with the windows down and shit.

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 All right. And it's good to be right in fantasy.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 And then I felt a little better after that Justin Herbert first half on Sunday night because he looked like Bo Nick's. Yeah.
He did. But he did pick.
He picked it up. He turned up.
Him and McConkie.

Speaker 1 He turned up. He sure did.

Speaker 1 McConkie. Thanks, Keenan Allen, for that whole three points or whatever.
That's Keenan Allen, though. Keenan Allen from losing.
Yeah, congrats. Yeah, he set the record for, I forget what, but

Speaker 1 he has the most reception. He's in charge of his history.
Got it. And I loved Antonio Gates being in the building for that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Who was my old school fan of Swarm?

Speaker 1 He was the go-to forever. Before people was picking up tight ends early, you were getting him on.
Yeah, when they said Gates fell off, I was like, no, he didn't. Yeah, he was Rivers boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was his go-to. Old Reliance.

Speaker 1 Rivers was going to get Gates that ball.

Speaker 1 All right. So the Giants fired their head coach, Dable.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't love that.
Before we get to that, I watched some of that Giants game. And y'all know I ain't about to see any football y'all to death.

Speaker 1 I watched the Giants game. And in the fourth quarter,

Speaker 1 on fourth and one, Dable decided to kick the field goal because they was up. They had 20, whatever they had.
They was up. Yes.

Speaker 1 And I'm sitting there saying, if they lose this game, this will be why. The announcers are sitting there saying, oh, if this could come back to haunt you.
Sure enough, I checked the phone, 24 to 20.

Speaker 1 Yep. Caleb showed up.
Outside of that, I like him. He's having a good year.
Go Ben Johnson. Go Ben Johnson really doing some things over here.
Totally turned around.

Speaker 1 Who's the second year receiver they got last year? Arunde?

Speaker 1 Amonze.

Speaker 1 I'm always fucking my name up. Adunze.

Speaker 1 Yeah, totally turned around that often. His father wrote some shit on Twitter.
I saw. That shit was funny.

Speaker 1 Say, yo, Chicago, could you please trade my son to somebody that's going to throw him the ball? Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Also, Marvin Harrison said some shit about the Cardinals and his son. Both sons have come out and said, My dad is my dad.
Yeah. He don't speak for me.

Speaker 1 I'm letting you athletes know if your dad says something, I think he's speaking for you. Especially if your dad is Marvin Harrison.
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do y'all think that's fair or unfair, though? Like,

Speaker 1 should Marvin Harrison, he is who he is, but you didn't play for the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Like, should he be able to kind of make it tougher for his kid in the building, or is he a dad and he's a Hall of Famer, so you let him say what he wants. What do y'all stand on that?

Speaker 1 A Hall of Famer, bro. I think you can make it hard for your kid.
I see it. I understand it.
I just think as a professional, you played this game, and so you know what comes with it.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? I think you got to chill out. Unless it's just totally, totally egregious.
Like, your kid's getting minutes. Right.
He's the number one there. Yes.

Speaker 1 It ain't like he's a bum over there and they're benching him or he fourth string. He's the number one there.

Speaker 1 So I just think that, you know, as a professional, you played this game, you got to kind of chill out sometimes. I agree.

Speaker 1 You know, your name carries a certain weight and it's going to get attached to your kid regardless. So you got to kind of just walk that line.

Speaker 1 Unless y'all have a relationship that's so distant that people know that. Or people know you.

Speaker 1 Like if LeVar Ball says something, nobody necessarily puts it on Lonzo or Mello because they know that they're so different. Man, or plausible deniability.

Speaker 1 Pops, go ahead and say it so that way I can say face over here in the league. You say what I really want to say, but I got to do this the right way.
It could, it could. Even with the Lamar Ball

Speaker 1 example, bro,

Speaker 1 when Lonzo first came, he had a target on his back because your father had talked so much shit in the offseason. Now guards like, yo, come get this.
Right. You know what I'm saying? So

Speaker 1 if it were me, I would want my dad to be silent. Yeah, it's professional.

Speaker 1 Even if I agreed.

Speaker 1 Even if I'm giving him the tea. It's bumps and bruises.
Yeah, let me think.

Speaker 1 It's my turn now.

Speaker 1 Speak up. So do you like Dave Old being fired?

Speaker 1 I don't love him being fired in the middle of the season. I understand why they did it.
The experts are saying he was running Dart straight into Concussion City too much. I mean, that's unfair.

Speaker 1 He's a rookie quarterback. He's going to be making some rookie.
quarterback decisions out there that may put himself in bad position.

Speaker 1 The experts are saying that Dart had 25 design run plays, leads the league in that even though he didn't play the first four weeks, they're saying that's a lot. I'm not a football guy.
It is a lot.

Speaker 1 I don't know what's going on. No, it's a lot.
It's a lot. But I think a lot of times how you run the ball as a quarterback matters.
Yeah, for sure. Bro, he won't slide.
Right.

Speaker 1 That was Mike Vicksburg back in the day. Like, yeah, he's not sliding, fam.
Like, yo, if I go get 14 yards and I move the chain, slide, dog. He won't go to Scatterbowl is in him.

Speaker 1 Like, they're two P's of the same pot. Yeah, crazy white white boys.
Asbury Park. Asbury Park, yeah.
Asbury Park. Let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dog.

Speaker 1 My thing is, I don't like when we don't give head coaches a fair shake. Like, give me three years.

Speaker 1 And especially in New York, the media is so powerful. How much time did he have?

Speaker 1 He had three years, but

Speaker 1 he just got a quarterback. His first year, he took him to the playoffs.
Let's start there. And one of the game game game.
And

Speaker 1 he never had a number one receiver until last year. You got to think about all the injuries that Saquon had.
They give away Saquon, who's basically a franchise player. Y'all give him away for nothing.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? Like, he's had some adversity for him. Like,

Speaker 1 I just don't like when they don't really get a fair shake. Think his number one quarterback starting off was Russell Wilson.
They benched him, what, week three?

Speaker 1 You don't think three years is long enough-ish?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you have a consistency, he hasn't had a consistent team. Again, he don't have a one receiver now.
I don't got a one running back now.

Speaker 1 Nobody knew Scatterbowl was going going to do what he did. See, I think Sean got to go.
Yeah, that's what going to be. My point is that I think that the GM being

Speaker 1 the GM. It's the GM being there.
He's made some egregious decisions. It's been bad, bad on that GM.

Speaker 1 And then as soon as it happened, they started putting all these clips out about how he didn't want Dart.

Speaker 1 The GM did. The GM? No, the GM wanted to do it.
A doomsday. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I like football guys, and Dave Ultimate is a football guy.

Speaker 1 I would have kept him. Yeah, I would have kept him, too.

Speaker 1 I would have kept him. No, not a Doomsay.
Somebody else. I'm confused about that.

Speaker 1 No, I'm confused and shit. But they're showing clips that he didn't want Dart.
I think the GM has to go. Dable, I thought, was a good coach.
Yeah. He could coach football.
Dickie Bounceback? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's definitely going to get an OC job at the very least.
He's a white coach, nigga. He's going to get picked up.

Speaker 1 That can coach. That can coach.
So, no, he'll be.

Speaker 1 He ain't got personality. Yeah.
Yeah. He'll be fine.
He'll be fine. Speaking of GMs getting fired, Nico Harrison was just fired.
Oh, wow. You lying.
Just to be to be expected.

Speaker 1 Let's say no surprises there. To be expected.
But again, maybe the only surprise is that it's happening right now

Speaker 1 in November.

Speaker 1 10 games in. Yeah, I thought he'd been fired two months ago.
You know what I mean? But

Speaker 1 GM of the Dallas Mavericks fired

Speaker 1 less than a year after the trade that probably ensured his firing. Well, two months ago, they probably still were celebrating the Cooper flag pick.
Like, he's still on a high.

Speaker 1 Nobody is trashing Nico

Speaker 1 two, three months ago. If you start two and nine, two and 12, then we got to have different conversations.
You bought an AD. A.D.
is hurt. But everybody's hurt.

Speaker 1 Again, it's like y'all Giants conversation today. A.D.
is hurt. Kyrie is hurt.
And Cooper Flagg is a rookie. Right.
And, boy,

Speaker 1 if I were a misogynist podcast, I would have some fun with the Clay Thompson salon.

Speaker 1 I'm telling y'all,

Speaker 1 I skipped it the last two pods just because I'm the wrong person to have fun with that type of topic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 However, it's the same like

Speaker 1 Park said after Kino comes in cooking, you just want to go to bed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, after y'all eat, y'all don't feel like going to work.

Speaker 1 Turkey legs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, y'all don't feel like podding after that. Like Clay Thompson over there.
He's prideful. Yeah.
Eating some

Speaker 1 food he ain't never ate. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Lots of stuffing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. His haircut change.

Speaker 1 We know what time time it is, man.

Speaker 1 I'm glad they're happy, man. She got him in his husband in her phone, in her contacts.
Like, they're at that stage of the relationship, so they're really happy. I think he's just.
Is that true? Yeah.

Speaker 1 How do we know that?

Speaker 1 Her phone.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What y'all got y'all wives and y'all phones as?

Speaker 1 I misspelled her name because she misspelled my name on a flyer one time.

Speaker 1 You always doing something smooth.

Speaker 1 I mean, I thought that was smooth. Like, it was personal.
It was the inside joke. Yeah, yeah.
I think that's kind of fly. Freeze.
And wifey with some emojis. And mine says wife after the misspelling.

Speaker 1 How many emojis? How many emojis? I got like four of them, maybe five. Three or four.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Big ish. Her name.
Just her name, right?

Speaker 1 Government? Or she just something.

Speaker 1 Like a nickname. No, her name.

Speaker 1 Emojis? Picture. Android's got emojis.
Got a picture of her? Save to the contact?

Speaker 1 It was like Tommy's job.

Speaker 1 Mark?

Speaker 1 Just her name. No emojis.
No emojis. She got emojis in mind.
That made me think I need to do some emojis. You guys tossed off.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Hell. Just her name.
I just got dick. She's got what? I have a dick.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 I just got dick. I was like, what, nigga? I think I still got bugs.

Speaker 1 What are you suggesting? We don't because we have emojis. That we bitches.
Not true. Nah, I got us.

Speaker 1 Us.

Speaker 1 Wait, what you got your lady as? Her name?

Speaker 1 This tracks. No emojis.
No emojis. Niggas that nigga.
What you got your network members as?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Their names.
What you got your network members as, niggas? Their names. Yeah, they checked you.
They named.

Speaker 1 Wait, who checked me? Don't please don't stop. Don't go down his room.
Don't go down his room. I'm telling you.
Wait, is there a chat? You, my man.

Speaker 1 I got it out for you. Let's move on.
My network names are the people's names. My wife's name is her name.
You see when you look at me.

Speaker 1 Back down. I want to know.
When you do shit like that,

Speaker 1 I want to know, like, Jack. Don't tell nobody pussy.
I wanna know.

Speaker 1 I want to know.

Speaker 1 Trying to save you.

Speaker 1 Try to save me? No. Oh, yeah.
I didn't know. I heard they preferred verbs to kind of words.
Nigga, you didn't have the nerve. Chill, Joe.
It's your little man, but you can't cover that. Plus, miles.

Speaker 1 I like the nigga, bro.

Speaker 1 Nigga, stupid.

Speaker 1 I like when you do that, because he didn't know he was calling me. You know what?

Speaker 1 No, I like that. That's why I'm like,

Speaker 1 I'm saying what you're going to do. You're going to let me say it, then you're gonna have my man take it out.
I promise you. Oh, okay, go ahead.
Yeah, I'm not gonna play with my man like that.

Speaker 1 That's why I said keep moving.

Speaker 1 I ain't scared of him. Fuck that nigga.
You should be a little bit scared. Keep moving.
Oh, damn. He's been barking.

Speaker 1 He's got some shit on me, too.

Speaker 1 He got some shit for real. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 He's going to say some shit that you're just going to have to stop for. Y'all never watched the old Westerns

Speaker 1 when they challenge you. Wamp, wamp, wamp.

Speaker 1 Hey, you got your gun, right? I got mine. Outside.
Come on. Come on, let's go in the middle of the thing.
But don't worry.

Speaker 1 It's all the odds.

Speaker 1 It's all the odds. Yeah, it's about who pulled faster, bro.
You ever seen The Quick and the Dead? Boys, I said. Huh? You ever seen The Quick and the Dead?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Young Leonardo DiCaprio, Gene Hackman, Sharon Stone.
Damn, that sounds good. Yeah.
That show was good. There's some people.

Speaker 1 That nigga know the white classics.

Speaker 1 No, he got the white super classics. You seen that movie.
I've never seen it. That sounds like a fire movie.
Yeah, I never seen it. I'm going to check it out.
Boots you later. I'll get back to you.

Speaker 1 I ain't seen that shit. We're worried.
Dable,

Speaker 1 listen, man. And don't find me.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Way past that. What is she saved as in your phone?

Speaker 1 He jumped back two segments.

Speaker 1 Skip past the mattress on it.

Speaker 1 Nigga, what is she in the phone at? Yeah, close the laptop. Open the phone.

Speaker 1 He tried to check his contacts.

Speaker 1 He's about to change his contact. He's a shit real quick.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let me see.

Speaker 1 Let me see. What am I seeing?

Speaker 1 Oh, all right.

Speaker 1 Got it. You a bird.

Speaker 1 I see emoji. I'm going to see shit.
Yo, why do you keep looking at my phone? Mine says love of my life.

Speaker 1 With mad emojis, you bitch ass nigga. There's three.
All right. There's three emojis.

Speaker 1 Floating hearts. Gotcha.
Gotcha. Oh, come on, man.

Speaker 1 I was just thinking, like, putting wife in your phone, I guess some dudes would not do that because then when your phone ring, when you're outside, wife pops up. That's not the reason I don't do it.

Speaker 1 I just never thought about it till right now. I'm considering changing it to wife now.

Speaker 1 Would y'all consider it? Would you change yours to wife? Yeah, I would. I would.
Yeah. You would consider it or you would do it? Consider it.

Speaker 1 Depends on how I feel. Depends on when your wife calls.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Hey. I'm ready now.
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 Listen, listen. We've been hearing about calls.
Ah, fuck. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fast.

Speaker 1 Don't go, Flip. We've been hearing about calls.

Speaker 1 Stop, man.

Speaker 1 Let him listen. Let him lift, flip.
I believe that I heard some of whatever y'all heard, too. So, all right, so I don't want to do it.
Leave me alone.

Speaker 1 I think whatever y'all heard, I think I heard some of it too.

Speaker 1 I think I heard it. And I don't want to play with the OG.

Speaker 1 I don't like all of it.

Speaker 1 I don't like all of it.

Speaker 1 In my head, I'm like,

Speaker 1 right.

Speaker 1 Is this true? Come on.

Speaker 1 Some of that shit you just know is not true, though.

Speaker 1 That's what makes it funny to me because I know it's not true. You're going to know if I planned a threesome.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no.

Speaker 1 You'll know. You'll be able to tell.
There'll be signs of when, hey, this was a joke.

Speaker 1 I was about that before. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 What topic were we on? We were just moving off of the Mavericks thing. Did we get to Sebastian Telfair? That's what we're going next.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about Sebastian Telfair.

Speaker 1 Hey, y'all, I'm sure y'all got a glowing review. I'm going to shut up because I'm going to show you.
So for those that don't know, Sebastian Telfair

Speaker 1 is in Fort Dix having his last conversation with Puff that he's ever going to have.

Speaker 1 His new documentary just premiered on YouTube? Before he turned himself in, he did record himself. In the projects.
Took it back to the projects, where it all started.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for rappers and athletes to stop glorifying NYCHA. I really cannot wait.
I cannot wait, boy. That ain't just a rapporteur.
We so misguided. We so misguided.

Speaker 1 Anyway, he took the people on a tour. Of where he lives.
Of Coney Island.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. Didn't he grow up in Cornell, right? Maybe so.
Yeah, I think so. I don't know.
Corney Island. Yeah.

Speaker 1 For those who don't know, he's a former NBA player, a star, drafted, not star, but drafted

Speaker 1 star before he played.

Speaker 1 He was a star in high school. Yeah, high school star, NBA player drafted.
New York City star for sure. New York City star for sure.
Drafted in 2004, I believe.

Speaker 1 by the Trailblazers and then it was a bit of a journeyman into the plan in China man. He didn't get to the team.
He had but some people don't know who he is.

Speaker 1 He made $19 million as an NBA player. He had $32 million in endorsements.
Apparently he didn't receive all of that. A lot of it he didn't get.
But the point is he made lots of money.

Speaker 1 And in this new documentary, he talks about his life, but he also talks about the fact that he's back into projects, which for me was...

Speaker 1 Heartbreaking? Heartbreaking. Not shocking because I just see too many NBA players like that.
But going through tens of millions of dollars

Speaker 1 and ending up back in the projects that you lived in, and NBA was a way to get out of the the projects. It's crazy to me.
I got a little clip for the people that didn't hear it, like to hear it.

Speaker 1 Here it go. We ain't sugarcoat night.

Speaker 1 Look, we ain't got no keys. This is how you get your mail.

Speaker 1 Oh, he doing like MTV Cribs. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Sort of like the high mail. Like the Redman one.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Use his fingernail to open the bank. I kick a nigga while he down, boy.

Speaker 1 Take the high road, champ. I know how it looks.
I saw the same shit. Take the high road.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to do whatever you think I'm going to do. I'm not going to do that because I fuck with him.
I fuck with him. I fuck with him too.
I fuck with the family. And I fuck with Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 Who did he think was sending him mail?

Speaker 1 Are you crazy? He opened his mailbox with his fingernail, looked in there, and said,

Speaker 1 ain't no mail.

Speaker 1 When you struggle, you be hoping that check come. Yeah.
You be hoping that last endorsement check

Speaker 1 or that last. I'm ducking the mailbox.
Oh, me too. That shit full of bills.
Ain't nothing but bills in it, business. You know that one check you waiting on?

Speaker 1 Look, we ain't got no keys. This is how you get your mail.

Speaker 1 How to get your mail. You ain't got no mail.
We good. Can't come in here.
We good.

Speaker 1 Signed a waiver to come in 2940. See? I'm gonna show y'all.
I'm gonna pause it again.

Speaker 1 Who does Sebastian think wants to come with him here?

Speaker 1 Like, do you hear his commentary? I'm blown away by his commentary. I think you'd be surprised.
Yeah. And I think he's being funny.
That he is being funny, but I think you're being surprised, too.

Speaker 1 I don't think he'd be surprised. Motherfuckers love that shit.
They do. A lot of niggas and niggas love that shit.
I think it's just saying that some of you niggas can't come into the project.

Speaker 1 That's all. But

Speaker 1 I'm just talking about society at large. They love

Speaker 1 the ghetto project. Like, motherfuckers that was from the suburbs couldn't wait to come.

Speaker 1 Man, not many badass

Speaker 1 nigga. Look now.
Look now. Today.

Speaker 1 They go over the fucking old block and shit like it's a

Speaker 1 museum. Like it's a tourist site.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Take pictures. Hey, look, I'm here.
All right, he's taking us through the hallway.

Speaker 1 More of a gift, tell you the truth.

Speaker 1 He says it's a gift and a curse, but it's more of a gift. Okay.
He, I'm going to send you this. To show the world exactly how I'm living.

Speaker 1 Being in a project is all I'm doing. This is a mess, yo.

Speaker 1 Shit is definitely real.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 Jesus. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not playing this video. This is sad.
You know, a lot of people... That's more mentality than anything.
Yeah, well, I want to ish's take on this.

Speaker 1 As somebody who thinks about money. No,

Speaker 1 so off-camera, we were talking about. Intergenerational.
It was just like, yo, $19 million.

Speaker 1 We look at that number and we immediately think they got $19 million.

Speaker 1 So basically, the studies show, like, if based on 19 million, he might have took home 10. Not saying 10 is a little number.
I'm just saying $10 million can be spent.

Speaker 1 And again, you live in New York, my nigga. Like, if you're a millionaire dude living in New York, your house might be 2.5.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? Like, you, cars, he was married, he had kids, all of that stuff. Like, you can run through $10 million.
It's just not $100 million that he had. So we would be surprised.

Speaker 1 Like, damn, $10 million. I don't think your conversation just has to do with people that have made $10 million.

Speaker 1 You can have just poor money made.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, but no, so we were saying, like, damn, $19 million. How can you go through $19? Almost like it's too much to.
We are starting off with, it's not $19, fam.

Speaker 1 Like, they broke down Jason's contract, Jason Tatum, and he got $600,000, whatever, million, $60 million a year. He was bringing home $30 of that, $29, $30 million of that.

Speaker 1 Like, you just look like, yo, you made $60 million. No, I really made $30.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? By the time agent fees, taxes, dues,

Speaker 1 all of that shit.

Speaker 1 We got to make sure Jason Tatum is okay.

Speaker 1 He only brought home the 30. Jason Tatum also asked me to get y'all shoe sizes like three months ago.
Oh, thanks. Gee, thanks.
I forgot.

Speaker 1 And I did get that endorsement, buddy, so he might have actually had,

Speaker 1 assuming he didn't get all 30. Let's say he got 10 of the 30.

Speaker 1 Same thing still applies. You still got to pay taxes.
You guys still. No, I'm with you.
So I'm saying he might have actually had $20 million to put his hands on it.

Speaker 1 Like you said, it's a lot of money to run through, and it's not a lot of money to run through. Bro, niggas be having a million dollars in jewelry.

Speaker 1 And then buying your niggas' jewelry and buying other cars for a while. And again, you married with children.
So you want to put your kids in the best school. Dog, I'm broke.
Nigga, my,

Speaker 1 whatchamacallit is $15,000.

Speaker 1 Child care school for a three-year-old. That shit is expensive, dog.
And it ain't the best schools money can buy. It's pre-Ks, that's $40,000.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is one of them situations, again, I think it's both and, you know, where it's like, it's not as much money as people think, and it's easier to run through, and there are expenses, and you travel and you do all this other shit, but there's also a way that if you got $20 million in your hand,

Speaker 1 you shouldn't run through all of it. That's him just being

Speaker 1 trained to do that. Living a life that's here.
But hold on, listen. That's him being loyal to the hood economics and hood folklore.
That's all it is.

Speaker 1 You know, being loyal to the niggas that's around you or that you came up with and trying your best just to appease them or

Speaker 1 keep niggas around. That shit can run on.
MC Hammers are the same shit.

Speaker 1 We had a conversation. MC Himmler went through the same thing.

Speaker 1 With

Speaker 1 the girls from Port Mountain, shout out to them. And we just discussed, like, how are you making decisions?

Speaker 1 And I don't think that in Sebastian's life, he would have ever thought his NBA career would be so short-lived. Yes.
So that's important, too.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, when you get the money, you think you're going to have a 10, 12-year NBA career. Your NBA career could be four years.

Speaker 1 Four years, you done blessed your mother, your father, your homies, your this, you're that. You done spent a bunk of that money because you think your career is going to last.

Speaker 1 I'm going to re-up on my next contract. I'm going to hit these niggas in their head with the max deal and this and this and this.

Speaker 1 And you might have blown through a real, real, real huge portion of that money early on, thinking

Speaker 1 that it's longevity there, and it just wasn't, unfortunately. So, that's that's a lot of that shit, too.

Speaker 1 And that's why we got to make sure for these high school kids going into college and these colleges going to the NBA that they get financial management. Financial literacy.
Financial literacy.

Speaker 1 And that's why in schools we need to teach financial literacy.

Speaker 1 Because to Joe's point, even if you're not going to the NBA, even if you're about to just get a regular job, you still got to manage you still got to figure out how to save, how to manage, how to make good choices.

Speaker 1 If you can't afford to buy it twice, you shouldn't buy it once. I mean, there's some very basic principles that'll get you through if you have that kind of guidance.
And we don't forget.

Speaker 1 It's the discipline, too.

Speaker 1 It's discipline and it's guidance, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Some people can get, like you said, some people can get the information, still not do it.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 it's unfortunate, though.

Speaker 1 Joe,

Speaker 1 as a star,

Speaker 1 nigga be seeing when I'm thinking something I ain't supposed to be thinking anymore, throw it right to me. Oh, so sorry.

Speaker 1 You see my brain over here just working

Speaker 1 on an island by itself. Because y'all, right, but nigga, get a job, you motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Yo, that NYCHA shit.

Speaker 1 Why do we keep pumping that up? Why do we keep pumping it up? Why do we are the only ones that make it look desirable? or think that it look desirable or think it painted

Speaker 1 this mailbox this elevator this hallway this crib, this kitchen, with respect, because we all come from, I come from the projects. We all come.

Speaker 1 At some point, certain shit should not be okay with you anymore.

Speaker 1 And if you still here after all that you've been through.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I'm just not cutting a camera on, man.
I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not.

Speaker 1 Hey, I know it's this thing where, right, everybody could go to BNH and radio chat, best buy, get a camera, and we just cutting shit on, monetize, monetize, monetize. Nigga, go get right first.

Speaker 1 Like, go get right first if y'all not ready to be on a camera like i don't want to see him like this i was outside for the sebastian era that was nutty it was

Speaker 1 it was absolutely nutty in new york parks you saw part of the documentary yeah i did well i saw the the it was probably two three minute clips okay because the question i had was is this like romanticizing it in the in the dock or is it saying like a cautionary tale like don't do what i just did i haven't seen it yet both is a bad thing both i mean from the from the snippet that i saw he doesn't seem down or like he sounds like he's kind of having fun in there see then that's

Speaker 1 your point. That's the danger.
But he accepted.

Speaker 1 Accept, bro, it's a gift in the curve. It's a gift in the curve, but it's more of a gift.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are we talking about? In acceptance, you maybe shouldn't say. He accepted his condition, bro.
Like, he fucked up the money. It's not a good thing, bro.
What's for you is for you. No, it's not.

Speaker 1 What's for him is for him, but he's not going to hide it. And that's where it gets tricky.

Speaker 1 No, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. He's not going to hide it.
He's going to show you, this is what my mistakes, whatever mistakes that I made, this is where it got me. And that's how I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 I met him before. I remember all the hustles and shit he tried.

Speaker 1 He's thinking, this is where I'm at. It takes a lot of guts to show.
I mean, I agree with you. It takes a lot of guts to do that.
But there's a lot of people who are going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 You got to present that. You got to present that in a way that you are telling other people, yo, don't go down the road that I went down.
Don't say, yo, I'm cool over here.

Speaker 1 Yo, this is more of a gift than a curve. Like, I didn't see the doctor, so I can't judge it.

Speaker 1 I need to see it. You can't really judge it yet.

Speaker 1 Y'all didn't see the crib?

Speaker 1 Bro, off that clip. Stop that.
Bro, off that clip, you serious. I passed it around.
You're in the kitchen and shit. Who dog is that?

Speaker 1 Dog, off the clip, when you're sitting there saying, Yo, there's people that can't come here to this building, like you, you, you proud of this. Yeah, true.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 look at the picture. Come on, man.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 It's a project kitchen. It's a project kitchen.
Yeah, nigga, we're not. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Hold on. This is a nice project kitchen.
Wait, you're right. That's not true.
You're right, though. This is not a project kitchen.
My grandma was in the kitchen. My family is in the project.

Speaker 1 This is not just a project kitchen. That's not true.
A not well-maintained kitchen. This is

Speaker 1 loaded. This is a mess.
There's asbestos rowing.

Speaker 1 Nobody should live here.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, y'all ain't see.

Speaker 1 I don't need to see it. I don't think he lives in here.

Speaker 1 But right now, this is Patriarch.

Speaker 1 This shit got the ability to. You got the nerve to put some background on it.

Speaker 1 So you making the mockery. You making jokes out of this.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 That's why I can't give him that pass that flip is given.

Speaker 1 You're making jokes out of this.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 You got it.

Speaker 1 you may need and he got his mcdonald's all-american jersey hanging

Speaker 1 his lincoln jersey

Speaker 1 i'm not i'm going this is sad to me well i mean this is sad to me i'm not for him personally i'm glad that is at least he has access to diddy right now that actually might be a good mentor for him on some financial literacy show some real shit like nigga fort dix is in better shape than this crib he's showing geez

Speaker 1 Niggas get so comfortable being uncomfortable, you know. So what do you say when you talk about financial literacy, right?

Speaker 1 What do you say to the people that are promoting financial literacy that's coming off as scammers? What do you say to that? Some of them are scammers.

Speaker 1 But then there's people who are doing really good work. So then, but if you're scamming, wouldn't it make a person like me or somebody else reluctant to learn from you?

Speaker 1 But financial literacy doesn't have to be the guy on YouTube.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, explain. Financial literacy is you

Speaker 1 learning financial. I'll give you a perfect example.
You could read a book.

Speaker 1 I'll give you a perfect example. To use you as an example.
Bob, what is it?

Speaker 1 Maybe six months ago, nine months ago, I was trying to sell my house and I had some questions about how to deal with something.

Speaker 1 I don't remember what the specific issue was, but it was how to deal with it

Speaker 1 financially. I didn't understand the process.
I didn't stand with the angle was. So I went to Ish because he knows more about this than me.

Speaker 1 He taught me the process so that I would make a good financial decision. I know what I don't know, and I'm comfortable asking people who know more.

Speaker 1 Imagine we institutionalize that. Imagine you've got that in high school.
Financial literacy can also just come from talking to your friends that maybe know a little bit more. Bro, you don't have to

Speaker 1 pay anybody for the education. You could go get a book.
You could read YouTube. Niggas find out how to do all this other shit on YouTube.

Speaker 1 Go to YouTube for somebody that you don't have to give a dime and look up topics that will make you more financially literate.

Speaker 1 You could also hire somebody that too, yeah.

Speaker 1 But if you don't,

Speaker 1 yes, on the rich end, yeah, but you don't have the money and they're getting flips.

Speaker 1 You don't even necessarily have to be super rich to have an accountant or

Speaker 1 someone managing your money. No, no, no, for sure.

Speaker 1 How'd you learn video editing and stuff? I went and did it myself. Went on YouTube and did it myself.
Same thing. Exact same thing.

Speaker 1 I started to read it because I could just save money and do some good shit. But I'm just saying, exactly.
But

Speaker 1 at some point, you pay attention.

Speaker 1 You care about your high grades. Yeah.
But we should instill that in our kids young. Yep.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we should also make sure that our high schools and our middle schools start to have those as classes.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, that's part of your system. They don't want the private school.
They don't want private school. That's right.
So we got to advocate for that.

Speaker 1 Well, that's why you got to pay for private school.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But even in, and again, no disrespect, we could move this off of Sebastian.
But he says, yo, you see, I got the thousand pair all-whites and all that. You know, I got to stay fly.

Speaker 1 Fam, you are more worried about staying fly than living in a decent surroundings.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you get what I'm saying? Like, that's right, some of the literacy part we're talking about, man. That's some of the mindset.
That mindset got to be undone. Got it.

Speaker 1 You might got a $2,000 coat in your closet, a few of them.

Speaker 1 You see niggas go to the project. That's projects with a year if you're not.
You see niggas go to the project with Ben Lee before, man.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 It's the program. You can't even clean up in there.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, your mind.

Speaker 1 Because if I'm in a place like that, my mind gets right to cleaning. Cleanliness is not the godliness now.
I would get up and grab the pine sole, the lavender, something new.

Speaker 1 New paint. You can't wall.

Speaker 1 If I lived there, you're going to see an accent wall.

Speaker 1 Right, right. Hey, something got to jazz this.
Nigga, I would be in home goods.

Speaker 1 I would be in home goods filming. He and NYTYA.

Speaker 1 If you don't get you a decorative pillow or something, a sheet to cover up the fucking radiator that's on the seal of the pipe. This nigga is crazy.

Speaker 1 I ain't just going to come to work and just big up crazy shit because niggas is black and I fuck with them. I'm not.
I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 You look nuts in this. I want to see the story, but I'm inclined to agree.
Speaking of financial literacy,

Speaker 1 Ish, I need to turn to you again.

Speaker 1 Donald Trump announced, was it 50-year mortgages? 50-year mortgages. Now, people on the left and the right,

Speaker 1 it's rare that you see Democrats and Marjorie Taylor green all like, what the fuck is this

Speaker 1 but he he said that one of his solutions was to push for 50 year mortgage right now people typically do 30 years

Speaker 1 50 year mortgage ish what say you to donald trump's proposal for the 50 year mortgage and just your overall thoughts about it yes thank you yeah that's really what i mean um

Speaker 1 it speaks

Speaker 1 it speaks to a few things right um

Speaker 1 the lower it's called amortization so 50 years 30 years 15 years whatever the case may be amortization the word amortize i think is latin it means to kill so it means means that this is the term that it takes to kill the debt, right?

Speaker 1 So if you take a 30-year mortgage, it's going to be a 30 years for the pay it all back.

Speaker 1 What's happening is, in my opinion, the real estate in the country is getting to a level that's so expensive that most Americans can't afford the mortgage payment.

Speaker 1 So to lower the actual mortgage payment, you stretch it out.

Speaker 1 It's like if you buy a car for $100K.

Speaker 1 Over six years, that's a $2,000 car note. Borrow $100,000 over 30 years, you might be paying $500 a month.
$400 a month. You get what I'm saying? So the payment lowers the longer you stretch the loan.

Speaker 1 I think we had a financial space where people can't afford $4,000, $5,000,000 and $6,000 mortgages.

Speaker 1 So you're going to have to stretch it to give them some level of relief if you still want to encourage home ownership. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, I do.
I do.

Speaker 1 Follow. Do you think that they want to encourage homeownership? No.

Speaker 1 Do you think it's a trap?

Speaker 1 It feels trappy.

Speaker 1 It was like the car dealership when they hit you with the.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 Your interest is going to be crazy. I just think, again, if you're going...
But rent ain't coming down. So it's an argument going around like, what's better, the owner to rent?

Speaker 1 It ain't like rent is cheap. It's high as shit.
Rent higher than giraffe pussy and it's going higher every single year. So I don't see the relief in any of it, to be totally honest.

Speaker 1 But I still encourage homeownership over renting all the time. Some people disagree with me, but I just think that we are in a space in America where motherfuckers really can't afford either.

Speaker 1 So him putting out a 50-year mortgage is almost some temporary relief. You're not solving the root.

Speaker 1 It's a mask and some paint over a bigger problem. That's right.

Speaker 1 It's an accent pillow of the project. Basically,

Speaker 1 because the people who benefit from this mainly are going to be the brokers, the real estate people,

Speaker 1 the banks. It's not poor people.

Speaker 1 You're right. It's a cover-up for the real problem, which is that we don't have affordable housing in this country.
But a lot of people are going to get drawn into this.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, now I can afford this house. And I really think it's going to be a lot of middle-class people who are now going to to get

Speaker 1 bigger house than they can afford, a more house they can afford.

Speaker 1 Because we always think, like Sebastian Telfair and others, like everybody, and I don't want to put on him, that we're going to make more next year than we did last year.

Speaker 1 So I'll just pay this off early. Oh, I'll just catch it.
And so, what you're going to end up with is people who never get to home ownership.

Speaker 1 At least with the 30-year mortgage, you could buy a house at 30. And when it's time to retire,

Speaker 1 you don't own, you don't have any, you have a house.

Speaker 1 Do y'all not plan for a fall-off?

Speaker 1 No, most people don't. It's so funny you asked that.
That's what I was about to ask you when you were in your island. Let's get to that after.
Yeah, after. I want to hear it.

Speaker 1 Most people don't plan for a falloff.

Speaker 1 I think most people,

Speaker 1 I think us, and I get this critique a lot, that when we speak up here, we all speaking from a position of privilege. We all blessed.

Speaker 1 The average person in America, dog, is worried about tomorrow. Like, we living on

Speaker 1 check the check. And when I say check the check, I really mean check the check.
Like, if the check don't come in, my niggas, niggas is fucked. Like, did government shut down?

Speaker 1 Like, I got tenants who, yo, Ish, I'm so sorry. Like, my husband is in the Navy.
They're not getting paid. I got you.
What do you say to that? Like, yo, you can't.

Speaker 1 Here's a U-Haul.

Speaker 1 My man, I can save you some money.

Speaker 1 My man will do it for you. If you all open, like,

Speaker 1 we gotta clear this out. I'm gonna give you another week.
No, I just got NBA players at announcement.

Speaker 1 Like, dog, I think that people don't even have the mindset to plan. Fuck plan for the fall off.

Speaker 1 We already falling. We just literally trying to get by, my nigga.
That's most people.

Speaker 1 That's why I wanted to wait till you finished your segment and then asked the question because it's a privileged question.

Speaker 1 Yeah. To be able to plan for the fall off is a privilege.
It is a privileged question. It's a privilege.

Speaker 1 But what I'd like to see, just to tie up this part, is housing subsidies, rent control in areas where it makes sense. It doesn't make sense everywhere.
Areas where it makes sense.

Speaker 1 I like to see housing subsidies. I like to see things that actually make it easier to own a house, not easier to inherit 20 more years of debt.

Speaker 1 So now you're paying a million dollars on a $300,000 loan. $300,000 loan.
Yeah, which is what's ultimately happening.

Speaker 1 And now, since most of us, especially as black people, don't live to be 90 or 80, now you never pay your debt off.

Speaker 1 So you go to the grave, not even able to give your kid a house because you still owe 20 more years on it. You know, I mean,

Speaker 1 there's a lot of ways that it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 I understand we got to do something, but to me, this ain't it. See, they told our man, get the fuck out of here with the free buses.

Speaker 1 They're going to tell them some bullshit money.

Speaker 1 They're going to learn them.

Speaker 1 We just wait and see. It's going to happen.
They're going to learn them. They're going to learn them.
But we don't plan for the full. They did tell them something.

Speaker 1 A few things.

Speaker 1 Earful.

Speaker 1 You know what? What I learned real quick?

Speaker 1 Stop, ish.

Speaker 1 What about Joe Liltiff?

Speaker 1 When you start getting money, you start to want to.

Speaker 1 If you don't have financial literacy, when you start getting money or more money, you start to want to purchase more. Yeah, you go bigger.
Yeah, Yeah, you go bigger. And that's a problem.

Speaker 1 And I noticed that with myself at some point. We know.

Speaker 1 You got to slow down a little bit.

Speaker 1 Elevator Andy? Yeah. No, that's fine.

Speaker 1 You know, elevators in his cube. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 You still have to slow down a little bit, man. I was just, this my whole weekend was shit, me arguing with my wife.
Hey, nigga,

Speaker 1 what you want to buy a new TV for?

Speaker 1 What you want to buy an 85-inch for? I will tear that shit down.

Speaker 1 We're not buying no TV. That's what I was telling her because I was like, yo,

Speaker 1 let's get settled. Let's get

Speaker 1 work together. Hold on, nigga.
I'm talking about my wife. Let's work together.
Let's come together and provide a better home for the family.

Speaker 1 Let's be more structured. I know I've led us down a rabbit hole, but now I'm trying to wake up.
Let's get it together. We don't need no more TVs in a fucking FOIA or whatever the fuck that shit is.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.
Sorry, it's good.

Speaker 1 You laughing about my wife, nigga? Never. You laughing on my wife? Oh,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 Now, we just, as Americans, we just carry too much debt. We buy a whole bunch of shit.

Speaker 1 We just buy a lot of people. Nigga, you lucky, nigga.

Speaker 1 You got a chef in the family, nigga. You good.
You can open a paradigm. You don't got nothing to do with it.
Don't be fucked up. A nigga sneaker habit or stupid shit like that.

Speaker 1 Bro, niggas be having three or four hundred pairs of sneakers like that.

Speaker 1 It's insane. It's wasteful.
I've said this before on the show, but my man

Speaker 1 who does mortgages for poor people to get them low-income.

Speaker 1 to get them out of housing and into homes.

Speaker 1 The two things he said is one,

Speaker 1 people always assume as human beings that next year is going to be better than last year. We always assume we're going to make more and do better next year than last year.

Speaker 1 And he said with black people in particular, because that's his population, he said the solution oftentimes to money is to get another job or to work more.

Speaker 1 Not to spend less. Not to spend less.
And so

Speaker 1 that combination can be tough to navigate. So we have to think about how can we spend less and also

Speaker 1 to the question you asked, sort of how can we anticipate the falloff?

Speaker 1 Obviously on our level, it's different than somebody who's living check to check. But it's still

Speaker 1 a thing is you got to anticipate that next year might be worse than last. Yeah, he might get fired.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 You got to at least plan. Or cut in half.
You have to be prepped for it.

Speaker 1 I want to say plan. You bitch ass nigga.

Speaker 1 My shit's still the same. No more TVs.
My shit's still the same. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 My shit's still the same, nigga. Action.

Speaker 1 Value. All right.
See, come on.

Speaker 1 I don't want to get into that. Yes.

Speaker 1 Shit could change. You love getting into that.
Yeah, right. That's your favorite thing to get into.

Speaker 1 Maybe him. It's him, right? It's Mark.
It's him.

Speaker 1 Anybody that questioned that shit, I'm getting at him. Sure.
Anybody that question that shit.

Speaker 1 You got to. You got to.
What else? I'm tricking y'all. He could trick y'all.
He can't trick me.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. He could trick y'all.
He can't trick me, nigga. That's true.
I know. I've been tricked.

Speaker 1 I'm like Jesus' grandson, nigga. Bless you.
Every time people say, yo, Joe, just let it run. You're manipulating me.

Speaker 1 I want to say,

Speaker 1 for what?

Speaker 1 But I'm just like, what? I don't think you're manipulating me.

Speaker 1 What is it you think I'm trying to get

Speaker 1 from from you

Speaker 1 I'll be wanting to

Speaker 1 give people my list of the people I'm actually trying to manipulate

Speaker 1 it's not y'all

Speaker 1 it's not y'all trying to manipulate fucking YouTube nigga

Speaker 1 call me Amazon

Speaker 1 right uh

Speaker 1 do you plan for a fall off

Speaker 1 God is good. So.

Speaker 1 All the time? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I plan for a rainy day.

Speaker 1 Most times my headspace is

Speaker 1 I struggle with

Speaker 1 what I can afford versus how it will affect my lifestyle.

Speaker 1 That's what I struggle with. What you can or cannot, you said? Can.
Can.

Speaker 1 Right? Like, you know, like

Speaker 1 I'm in house building mode with the land and looking at this and Italian this and fixture this.

Speaker 1 And it's like, okay, I can afford some of this stuff, but how will it affect my actual lifestyle, quality of life?

Speaker 1 Like, that's kind of what I'm doing. The house was a good moment for that.

Speaker 1 Again, like when we were looking for houses,

Speaker 1 I had this moment of record. And my wife is far more reasonable and mature than I am financially.
So she's always like, yeah, we can afford this, but dot, dot, dot, right?

Speaker 1 Will it improve your quality of life? What does this look like during a rainy day? How much do you want to to struggle? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So we were like, we're going to be more modest than we had to be because

Speaker 1 we don't want life to be hard if you hit a pitch.

Speaker 1 And it's funny because right after we agreed to buy the house, I lost a job. Think about that.
You know, I lost a major deal. I lost about 60% of my income

Speaker 1 right around that time

Speaker 1 between two jobs, actually.

Speaker 1 And it was just deals that ran out. It wasn't nothing bad, but it's just life happens like that.
And you got to be prepared for that. Because I'm still still always prepared.

Speaker 1 The next year I'll make more. And I'm always thinking, I'll just hustle more.
I hit the road more. I'll speak.
I'll do whatever. I'll write a book.
I'll do whatever to make this make sense.

Speaker 1 And now you got a three-year-old. Yeah.
And I'm almost 50. You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 1 I don't want to be on the road 120 days a year like I used to be. Like, that shit is crazy.
You know what I mean? But once you've been through a fall off,

Speaker 1 it makes you look at life differently. For sure.

Speaker 1 So I know that I'm going to lose a job. I know that something's going to happen.
I know somebody's going to get hurt. I know a bill is going to come up that I didn't expect.

Speaker 1 And so I look at those things differently than I did before I hit those walls. You know what I mean? Do y'all plan for that stuff? Yes.
Yeah. I try to live.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to be debt-free. I like that free.
Like, that's literally one of my goals. Like, I don't want no debt.
Safe. Zero.
Like, well, the only debt that I want is debt that produces money for me.

Speaker 1 Right. You know what I'm saying? Outside of that, bro, I want to be zero.

Speaker 1 Zero. No car note, no credit card bills, no medical bills, no nothing.
Like, I don't want any debt. And I We only got 79 more months on that car.
I know.

Speaker 1 Amortization. Everybody.

Speaker 1 Amortization. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Hey, y'all only got about 89 more months. I need a 50.
I'm on track. I need a 50.
Yeah. I done been in the plane.
I'm on a plan. I'm on track by, I think it's April.
I'll be debt free. Debt-free.

Speaker 1 Like, totally debt-free?

Speaker 1 It's fire. That's what's up.
It's a relief, bro.

Speaker 1 Paid off all them. The credit facts and all that shit.
Credit facts.

Speaker 1 What the fuck is the credit card?

Speaker 1 Where the fuck is credit card? No credit.

Speaker 1 You pay Equifax, all them shits.

Speaker 1 You paid them stupid.

Speaker 1 I'm with Freeze.

Speaker 1 You close to Debre, too? Hell no.

Speaker 1 No way. Them niggas about to take my basket off.
You're getting dead right around this time every year.

Speaker 1 That's true. But I ain't come to you this time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's over for that. No, it's not.
No, it's not. Over back.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Nigga came with a diamond on the fucking hoodie.

Speaker 1 Ain't gonna play with my boy working less. I'll make it more.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. We're working together.
We're working together. We belong together.
Holy shit.

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 1 y'all are absolutely right about what you're saying, right? I fucking, I pay my car off. Oh, shit.
Old car.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 And I'm just like, yo, look at our mentality. When I was broke as a joke, I knew when Benz was putting out the new body of the new car of the new year.

Speaker 1 And it hurt to be in the 2014

Speaker 1 when the 2016 is out. That's so stupid.

Speaker 1 Now that shit don't even cross your mind.

Speaker 1 Yo, I be so. Well, now I know this is some years you want a car with fire.
So I'm riding in the 21. I like the 21.

Speaker 1 Absolutely love it. The same as the 22, 23.
Oh, I'm so happy.

Speaker 1 I dropped that shit like a lemon at 24 i'd be all over the place so i i did it i did an interview and they was asking me like how do i define like rich because everybody's thing is is different yeah and i was like yo my definition is um options so like to your point if your kids want to you want your kids to go to rutters and stay in state that's cool but if you want them to go to georgetown you can afford for them to go to georgetown if you want like you know a lot of the rich people be driving priuses and shit like that that's because they want that car right when your daughter gets 16 and she wants the little mini Cooper because she likes it, she could get it.

Speaker 1 But if she wanted the CLA, she could get it. I mean, they're damn near the same price.
But you get what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So that's how I define it: like, yo, I could live in the neighborhood I want to live in, not the neighborhood that I can only afford to live in.

Speaker 1 And to me, that's that wealth and rich. That's what that means.
To me, I just want to continue to elevate my level of thinking and my mind, in my mind state.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm going to these niggas' houses where the house is as much as I would like mine to cost.

Speaker 1 But where they headspace is. When you start having conversations with them niggas,

Speaker 1 this guy put a

Speaker 1 water,

Speaker 1 I don't even know what it is, some type of water neutralizer that costs half a million, and you could drink the shower water like because he believed water in plastic bottles are gonna kill us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he wrote it.

Speaker 1 He bought the water neutralizer so you could just drink the water no matter where it comes from in his house. It still have to be a half million.
I'm like, wow, look where your brain is. Yeah, nigga.

Speaker 1 You got only got a certain amount. I'm building this house with a certain amount of bedrooms because

Speaker 1 I want one kid. I'm going to have

Speaker 1 one

Speaker 1 kid.

Speaker 1 Well, I need all my bedroom for. Right.

Speaker 1 I don't, I'm not building an upstairs. I want to die here.

Speaker 1 Why do I want to walk?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like just shit.
Regular smart shit. Wow.
No, shit that I can think out and I can build what I want. I don't have to take what somebody else has.
That was they designed. But I never, but I know

Speaker 1 that's cool. But I never in my life thought to myself,

Speaker 1 I don't want to walk upstairs. I never even thought that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought, give me an elevator. Right.

Speaker 1 Just different thinking is, them niggas is fucking great. Got a wellness spine.

Speaker 1 These niggas are fucking.

Speaker 1 I don't gotta leave the house. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 That's smart.

Speaker 1 When I get my house, I'm not leaving. And also not that expensive to do some of these things, by the way.
You bowl. You probably save money doing some of this shit.
Oh, yeah. You bowl.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, shit like that, these niggas got in their house.
You gamble a lot. Yo, we have a full-fledged

Speaker 1 casino in my fucking crib. Like, damn, you can't get involved in it.
Niggas out here worried about bus money. Bowling alley in your crib, but you married, you live with your wife.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we lemon to my mouth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's go play bowling.

Speaker 1 That's just you and the kids.

Speaker 1 Lemon, lemon, Lewis. You know what we want to do.

Speaker 1 If we're trying to go bowling, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Steve Reich.

Speaker 1 Asbury Park, white boy, look at him.

Speaker 1 Get the flip stalled off him. Oh, man.
Steve Reich.

Speaker 1 Do y'all want to attempt to talk about all her fault? Oh, we could. Oh, we can.
I watched that whole shit this week. I do too.

Speaker 1 We b

Speaker 1 this was.

Speaker 1 Yes, the show. The show.

Speaker 1 The new show on her. You always got DVDs.

Speaker 1 That show on Peacock, we're talking about.

Speaker 1 Good, great, bad TV. All her fault.

Speaker 1 Great, bad TV. Yes.

Speaker 1 The show starts off.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're going to accept it. Give it to him.
Give it to him. No, no, no, no.
Just break it down.

Speaker 1 First minute of the show. I'm just basically sets the premise for the show.
It does.

Speaker 1 You ain't watched Succession, but Shiv from Succession

Speaker 1 walks up to a house, says that

Speaker 1 one of the ladies from school, her son was supposed to be having a play date with him. And was like, she texted me and said to pick the kids up from here.
Pick my son up from here.

Speaker 1 She won't be there, but she won't be there with the nanny.

Speaker 1 The kid will be here with the nanny. The lady's like, I don't know who you're talking about.
ain't no kid here i don't know that person name you mentioned what are you talking about

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 that's scene one

Speaker 1 lady goes into a panic

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 like i'm not gonna give away the show but yeah it's it's what where what happened to my son

Speaker 1 it is your fault

Speaker 1 well well but why that show but why the show why the show storyline is so compelling though that's how the show starts right So the lady calls the number to text her. Numbers disconnected.

Speaker 1 The kind lady let her in the house. Now they're trying to find the kid.
So that's cool. But by the time it ends, by the time episode one ends, they whole friend group is on a board.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The whole friend group is on friend group. Friends, family,

Speaker 1 teachers. Everybody.

Speaker 1 Everybody's on a police board. And the cops are saying, I don't know why they all.
had to kill each other. And that's the show.

Speaker 1 So it's not just about a missing kid. Yes, but it is about a missing kid.
The show's heat. It's a really good, it's a really good peacock show.
Like I said, it was so good that we couldn't stop it.

Speaker 1 We binged all. It's eight episodes.

Speaker 1 How did it end? How did it end good? We're not going to say that. Not going to say how it does.
Did it end good? Yes. Yeah, and actually, it was great.
I didn't see the end. I'm only on episode 1.

Speaker 1 Okay. For the cast, which is pretty phenomenal in terms of actors that we've seen in other shows,

Speaker 1 the acting was pretty bad for a lot of it, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 That's a peacock thing. The only person that showed up to me is the little girl from it

Speaker 1 that plays one of the nannies

Speaker 1 and she'll you'll get into more of that because if you're only on four she did a really good job he's almost there's up next six is the one yeah yeah

Speaker 1 make me mad when six is the one and it's only eight episodes

Speaker 1 nah but they

Speaker 1 it's you you'll get why it's eight i'm gonna check it out i started it without my girl i'm finishing it without my girl oh she'd live in living bold but i did text her hey you should watch this

Speaker 1 but real good peacock show it is good and this is one of them shows I will say that you know, you part of watching these type of shows is trying to call out what happened for sure early, for sure.

Speaker 1 You're gonna get it, yeah. No, you won't.
You will not get it. That's dope.
You're not gonna get it. That's dope.
They did some twists. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 It was like, oh, oh,

Speaker 1 it's not predictable. That's fine.
Yep. You think it's predictable, too.
The whole time, after the first episode, I'm like, oh, it was so,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't change my pig match. Oh, no, no, never mind.
Yes.

Speaker 1 They absolutely smoked the cliffhangers. Yes.
Yeah. Yes, they did.
When you get to the end, you're going to be like, fuck. fuck.

Speaker 1 Oh, good. Yeah.
I'm excited about it. They did a really good twist at the end.
It saved it for me because, like I said, the acting and shit, I expected more out of these actors, but

Speaker 1 the story brought, like, even shit. Like, she was amazing in succession.
She was, I was like, who is this person? I didn't care about the acting.

Speaker 1 She was Ditzy in there. She was a loofah.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, you think Ditzy husband is horrible.

Speaker 1 The neighbors, the old girl husband is the worst nigga on planet. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 She said, oh, yeah, I was. It's my fault.
We were at the marathon. And if I would have just stayed with the kids, like, shut up, lady.
Yeah. But the story.
But again, secondary viewing.

Speaker 1 They kept making it a point to let us know how this was all her fault.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
And in episode one, I think dad, in a

Speaker 1 moment of frustration, was like, How could you have not checked off? Yo,

Speaker 1 he let it slip. Stupid.
Why you ain't just checked the number? I'm sorry. I didn't mean that.
I'm like. You can't do that that while kids are missing.
But I do understand. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Boy. If one of y'all kids got missing and it was undeniably your spouse's mishap that led to it, how hard would it be to keep that in? Hard.
Hard. Because you don't want to.
You got to keep it in.

Speaker 1 You got to, but it is.

Speaker 1 You got to keep it in. You have to.
It's hard. No.
You have to.

Speaker 1 You would blame her? What? Even if... No,

Speaker 1 what good does that do? It don't help nothing right now. Good for me.

Speaker 1 And she's already a mess because the kid is a mess. Well, I'm a mess, too.
So you're about to compound it.

Speaker 1 How is that good for you? You said it's good for you. Yeah, it don't help nothing.
It don't help nothing. Listen, in the moment, maybe not, but you're going to hear about this,

Speaker 1 how it was all your fault.

Speaker 1 Not with the kidnap kid. You can't do that.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 Come on. There you go again.

Speaker 1 I do have to offer an apology, a brief apology to the fan base that think I'm crazy for the

Speaker 1 series.

Speaker 1 This last episode was very good. My bad.
The first two, I did not really love. I don't like relying on CGI for scare, like nasty CGI shit is not going to do it for me.

Speaker 1 This last episode was pretty good. So,

Speaker 1 my bad.

Speaker 1 You know, I ain't fucking with that clown.

Speaker 1 Never. Fuck that.

Speaker 1 Remember, it from high school to this day. You got to stop being scary issues.
Nah, I'm not. You're too old for that.
I'm not scared of that clown.

Speaker 1 You don't watch scary movies? I thought about you while I was watching scary movies. I'm an issue on that shit.
Bro, you gotta be a little bit more. You don't go with clowns.
You got two super screws.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna get with clowns. I don't like scary movies.
Like, I'm not scared of them. I just don't like them.
I love scary movies. I'm scared to death of clowns.
Really? Are y'all? Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't fuck with clowns.

Speaker 1 At all.

Speaker 1 This is a broadcast.

Speaker 1 He can do what he wants, nigga. Mr.
Joe?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mr. Joe.
Eat your poop, Mr. Joe.

Speaker 1 I suck at the sandwich, boy.

Speaker 1 Look at my son. He took a big bite, too.
Look, it ain't going nowhere, boy. Finish what you have in your mouth.
Oh, you about to take another bite.

Speaker 1 true. It's true.
He got the white shit around. Pooh's man.
Yo.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 boss.

Speaker 1 God damn, son. Other stories.
Flip actually. What's up, Mark? Talk to me about you because you could break this down.
Ice too, I think. Westside Gun.

Speaker 1 Freeze. But it's a wrestling.
You the wrestling do you the hip-hop do you? So I'm thinking between the two of y'all. Westside Gun got removed from a WWE event three minutes after it started.
Right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 He paid $5,000 for the ticket. Paul's own seats and everything.
Pay for his own seats. And $5,000.
Yeah, he just felt like he's a fan.

Speaker 1 He's a super fan. Let's start.

Speaker 1 It was in his hometown. He flew and everything to pay for the seats, and they took him out.
And according to him, WWE

Speaker 1 just is trying to, I guess,

Speaker 1 somebody said in the office to him that WWE doesn't like to see a young, successful black man.

Speaker 1 This is on the heels of WWE sending him a cease and desist because he was trying to use some of the

Speaker 1 artists. He regularly uses artists.
He regularly uses the artwork as well. In his music,

Speaker 1 pictures,

Speaker 1 interview samples.

Speaker 1 He's a fan and he incorporates it into his art in the way that a bunch of other people, Wu-Tang, he used as an example, with the Kung Fu flips. He does that, but with wrestling shit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Heels have eyes too. I'm looking at the cover.
And three. Shit.
They both got Virgil.

Speaker 1 And part three got taken to get eyes too.

Speaker 1 He gives a statement. I had it, but

Speaker 1 I got it. Oh, you got it? Yeah, yeah.
I was about to read it. Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead and read it. No, go ahead.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 he went to Twitter

Speaker 1 to break down what happened. And he says, first of all, it happened for no reason.

Speaker 1 He said, for years, I mean, nobody with two feet has spent the amount of money I have supporting and pushing a brand I've loved since I could remember.

Speaker 1 I sat front row at every big show, literally, all the good times it brought to my life to the point when I started making music. I incorporated in everything like Wu-Tang did karate.

Speaker 1 I made people who hated the product watch it again. I made it cool.
And at the time, people thought it was nerdy.

Speaker 1 I've watched that same company sit countless of people next to me who's not even fans for real and act like I don't exist.

Speaker 1 I was threatened to take everything out my music, which I only did to pay homage or my whole catalog would be demolished.

Speaker 1 And everybody knows how hard I worked coming from Buffalo for me to get that threat for just supporting and being a real fan hurt me.

Speaker 1 But I stayed quiet and still, like a crazy man, sat front row because I loved the culture. And then his last line was, I have my own company, Fourth Rope.

Speaker 1 And yeah, we're the underdogs, but we love this shit. It's not about money.
We're going to keep pushing culture. And for those that don't know, Fourth Rope.

Speaker 1 It's his restaurant. Fourth Rope is his role.

Speaker 1 yeah yeah so so he is absolutely correct it was west side gun smoke dizzer wale wale peter rosenberg they were the ones yeah who basically made wrestling cool cool for the hip-hop crowd for sure because after a while it'd be like he said it was it was looked at as nerdy

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 now where i'm on the other side of that is you can't start competition

Speaker 1 and then come here like you my comp now.

Speaker 1 Granted, everything you did, like they used to have that. I remember there was times where there were events and they would highlight, they put his name on the screen.

Speaker 1 You know, they were, it was some level of

Speaker 1 acknowledging it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But now you've started, that's like Ice Cube going to the NBA game, sitting courtside. But he can't.
Which he can.

Speaker 1 Which I can spend my money.

Speaker 1 And I can say, no, you can't.

Speaker 1 If I own this league and you are my op,

Speaker 1 you come here sitting courtside, I can say I don't want you here.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? I don't know. I mean, using our images.
I don't know. There's two issues here.
There's the legal images.

Speaker 1 We didn't care if you were using our images before, but now you are my competition. Cool.
You're my direct competition. At that.
So Senna cease and desist to say that I can't use your IP. I did that.

Speaker 1 Cool. Now, for you to remove me from the stadium in which I paid to have be a patron, I think is a different thing.
It's a public event. A lot of those

Speaker 1 wrestling companies. That's a totally different thing.
A lot of those companies.

Speaker 1 A lot of those independent resident companies were tunnels to WWE. So, like ECW and a lot of companies that we didn't know, they would send them there first and they would go to WWE.

Speaker 1 Like farms and stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we didn't know that. But I don't think he took that step.
I don't think they even considered, he considered even working with WWE in that collab.

Speaker 1 Maybe they didn't offer him an opportunity. Maybe they didn't.

Speaker 1 Maybe not. Y'all ain't.

Speaker 1 What it looks like for me is from Westside Guns' perspective, before, y'all wasn't doing right by me with everything that I did for this company in terms of making y'all cool again.

Speaker 1 Okay, cool, I'll go start my own shit. I salute that, I respect that 1,000%.
That is, that is, that is what we want people to do. Exactly.
Go, all right, fine.

Speaker 1 If they won't appreciate you here, go start your own shit, and we're gonna fuck with you over there. Gotcha.
I'm with all of that. Where I disagree is now you come here.

Speaker 1 Granted, you paid your money, we didn't give you free tickets, but you're not gonna come here and be courtside. I don't know what you're doing.
I don't know if you filmed this for Europe.

Speaker 1 I don't know. You're Europe, you are my competition.
See, I don't like that. You can't come here and do that.
I don't like that. And it didn't used to be that.

Speaker 1 Because, dog, I don't have to come to your event to poach. I don't have to come to poach.
I said, I said that. He said it.
Oh, I don't have to come to your event to try and be sneaky.

Speaker 1 Dog, I'm a patron. I paid for my ticket.
I ain't asked y'all for shit. I want to come as a fan, as I've been a fan.
It ain't nothing new. I've been a fan for the last decade to come watch.

Speaker 1 You said it ain't nothing new. The one thing that is new is now you are my direct competition.
And be a friend.

Speaker 1 I will say this.

Speaker 1 This This is what I would have done if I were the WWE.

Speaker 1 I would have said, you can't sit front row. Because every time we shoot, that's like a promo for you.

Speaker 1 It would be like back in the day if like Ted Turner was sitting courtside or Vince McMahon sitting courtside at NWA event.

Speaker 1 So I could see that maybe, or we're not going to put the camera on you, something. I don't think you should escort anybody out of an arena that they pay the ticket for if they're not doing nothing.

Speaker 1 And to me, fourth row ain't, you know,

Speaker 1 a threat to WWE. Right now.
They can can coexist. Right now.
Right now. You know what I mean? Right now,

Speaker 1 you just say I don't have to go come to the event to poach, but that's the most times people use opportunities to do so.

Speaker 1 When you're going backstage, when we extend the offer to you, you're backstage, and now you're talking about, hey, I need to come to the studio. I need to come to my shit.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying that he's doing it. You moved him.
I can see if they told him, yo, I don't want you backstage. I understand that.
No, I hear you. Me being a patron at an event.

Speaker 1 That I paid my money for, and y'all removed me from the event. I think it's two million.
It's two separate issues. We don't want your money.
I think it's separate issues. We don't want your money.

Speaker 1 You wanted my money and you wanted my promo when I was doing it for you. Absolutely.
Absolutely. But now, again, the one part is you could have kept doing that.

Speaker 1 We didn't have, like, again, they didn't strike down none of your album covers and none of that stuff before. Right.
Until you became opposition.

Speaker 1 Now that you're opposition, I got to treat you like opposition. And the WWE, I mean, historically, the WWE and performerly WWF has always operated like that.
They never liked.

Speaker 1 Allow people to use images or copyright. But not even just that.
I'm saying, you think about the 80s and the 90s, they started swallowing up all of the regionals and they destroyed the regional model.

Speaker 1 Because there was a time where the AWA, the NWA,

Speaker 1 all existed. Bro, WWE was regional.
Right. But part of how they became not regional is to say, all right, Vern Gagne, we're going to kill the AWA.
Okay. You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Jim Crockett, we're going to kill the NWA in Midwestern wrestling. We're just going to swallow all the other organizations.
Vincent Mann Jr. did it.
Vincent Mann Jr. did it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And what I'm saying is, so they don't have the mindset of peaceful coexistence. They want to destroy you if you exist.
I mean, they're hyper-capitalist in that way.

Speaker 1 So it's not surprising, but it's still a little disappointing given all that we've given to the culture. It's nasty.
It's absolutely nasty.

Speaker 1 But be clear, I'm not sitting there saying that what they're doing is right. I said, I understand it.
Just from business side, fuck that. I don't want my competition sitting here.

Speaker 1 I think on the opposite.

Speaker 1 I think on the optimist side, you're doing enough for them to feel like they need to squash you. And that is kind of fire to me.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't take it as a compliment that the WWF sees me as enough competition to escort me out the room. Right.
That's kind kind of fly. It's nasty, but it's very nasty.

Speaker 1 And salute the West Side for doing this, man. I went to a fourth row event.
They were on the Ian and Mark show. We were, you know, whatever we did.
We partnered on some stuff.

Speaker 1 And we sat at a live event, and it is amazing what they do.

Speaker 1 And honestly, I don't think anybody does it as well as they do in terms of independent wrestling organizations because it's high-quality wrestling.

Speaker 1 It's as real as it comes in terms of the announcer, the play-by-play, the ref, the audience. But also the way they blend hip-hop with it is some shit I've never seen before.

Speaker 1 I think it's super fly what they do. Fire.
Dope. I'm on both sides in this.

Speaker 1 I'm with ICE.

Speaker 1 No, you can't use all of our shit and put it on t-shirts and album covers and you can't do whatever. I agree with that.

Speaker 1 And you can't be our direct competition now with fourth row and then come over here and sit. You just can't do that.
So I agree with, I agree with them getting them out of there. I do.

Speaker 1 Lord knows I didn't put a fan out of a show for some shit they didn't say.

Speaker 1 So I agree with that. Where I agree with gun.
Shout out to to page where i shout the page where i where i agree with gun is

Speaker 1 you would hope that these companies at this scale would either be able to or hire or have somebody that's able to recognize the people that are truly fans that have supported that love this that kind of dictate culture uh and that's just on how you uh your partnerships division right because they went and got travis scott they tried the big time partnership that fell flat on his face.

Speaker 1 Hey, we was just talking about this. With old Doja Cap.
Yeah. We were just talking about this with certain names.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we go for the celebrity, and these people don't really give a fuck about you or what you're doing versus the people who love this shit since a kid, are traveling for this shit, or willing to buy that sweet.

Speaker 1 Like, I think that those people should be catered to at a different clip than just the celebrity that came out. I agree.
I do. I agree.
That's real. And that's what he said.

Speaker 1 He said, yo, a lot of times, y'all i have celebrities come out here that don't know shit about what's going on i'm a nigga that's really here in the front row because i love this shit it's different this ain't a promo op for me i really am a fan treat me like i'm different than somebody else bro i agree with you and i brought in so much attention and and money to y'all that you can directly trace back everybody ain't in the care business that's true yeah everybody don't have to care i come up here and make jokes all the time about how i go to the nick game and they start putting some motherfuckers on the big screen and i swear i'm more famous than it's it's funny but they don't give a fuck they don't care and I shouldn't care because I know they don't care like my Nick fan fear is just my Nick fan fear I ain't asking to be seen about it or treated differently about it I'm here because I chose to be here so everybody's not in the care business it's dumb people's job it's dumb folks job to figure out how to take this company from 100 to 100 million.

Speaker 1 And if that's making the wrong decisions, right? Because you're asking people to understand culture. They don't.
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 When you say these things, you're asking someone to understand culture.

Speaker 1 But you don't have to.

Speaker 1 I don't even think that's understanding culture at that point. You could, like I said, you could look at the impact that those four names I named made on WWE.

Speaker 1 How can WWE do that? WWE can do that. Well, they've obviously looked at it at some point because now you're getting rappers and stuff involved with shit, which y'all wasn't able to get before.

Speaker 1 See, that don't say. You ain't answer his question.
Yeah, that don't say that they were able to pinpoint how Peter Rosenberg, Westside Gunn, and the other names.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Dizzin and Wale. Like, what can they look at to see the impact?

Speaker 1 It's not a promo code. Right, but you can look at

Speaker 1 what we were getting. Demographically.
Demographically. You can look at what we were getting before their involvement and after.
Bad people always support. You can just look at that.
But that's that.

Speaker 1 That could be circumstantial.

Speaker 1 That could be circumstantial.

Speaker 1 That could be happening.

Speaker 1 If you don't give Wale a code and shout out to Wale and Wale Mania, so I'm not saying that he did not. I'm objectively speaking because I believe that Wale definitely pushed it forward.

Speaker 1 But if you don't give Wale a code to say, yo, type in W-A-L-E so that the WWE can now track your actual analytics to say that he had this impact, then to Joe's point, how do you track it?

Speaker 1 But we can look at the Thursday before WrestleMania, like you said, you mentioned Wale Mania. Or a lot of people just make a hub for the people that are wrestling fans like them.

Speaker 1 Not saying Wally, I'm not just, I just, like, a lot of people just create a hub. Like, yo, it's not cool to be a wrestling fan.
So I'm going to show you that you have some, I'm a hip-hop artist.

Speaker 1 I'm going to show you that you have some hidden wrestling fans out there. And I'm going to create a hub.
It's not a known fact that

Speaker 1 you being a fan of mine have started watching wrestling and went back and did the research and now a wrestling fan. You can't, we can't, it's just a hub for niggas that were already wrestling fans.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 y'all think these companies got people up there that are able to identify cool and they don't. They don't.
But see, I think it's not just that. I mean, I think that's true.

Speaker 1 I think these companies never know cool is. We always are the indicators of cool.
But I don't want to let them off the hook either about them not knowing.

Speaker 1 I think sometimes they know and they don't give a fuck. I mean, there's a long history of rappers making shit cool.
How many pieces of jewelry have we made cool? How many drinks?

Speaker 1 Pieces of liquor have we made cool?

Speaker 1 And then those brands tell us the fuck off. I mean, we started with liquor.
We started with a vodka and champagne in particular. Iceberg.
What you're describing is behind door number two.

Speaker 1 Door number one is they don't know. Door number two is

Speaker 1 don't give a fuck. And I agree with both.
I'm saying I think door number one happened.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying right now, I don't want to assume that they don't know the impact that these people had on the thing. I think they may have moved to door number two now.
Like, yeah,

Speaker 1 thank you for giving us these clothes. These people, appreciate it.
Now get the fuck out of here. We didn't ask you to do it, right? What do you say to that?

Speaker 1 Like, what do you say if they say, yeah, we didn't ask you to do this? You wanted to do it. We didn't ask for this.

Speaker 1 That's what every company's going to say. Exactly.

Speaker 1 We didn't ask you to do that with Moay. We didn't ask you to do that with Christoph.

Speaker 1 A lot of companies say that. Right, but thank you.
But by any, oh, man. And Jay was the only one.

Speaker 1 Do you think that's the company's fault?

Speaker 1 I'm not making it. No, I think we need to stop doing that.
Oh, okay. I think we need to sound like me and say it like it's an insult, you bitch ass nigga.

Speaker 1 I never want to sound like that. Jay was the only one.
Sometimes there's a crossroad.

Speaker 1 Jay was one of the only ones that's what I saw publicly that said that they didn't want me rocking this or they ain't trying to. That's my point.
And he removed himself. He took a stance.

Speaker 1 Because that's, I think, what the companies do. They'll take our time.
He'll figure endorsement.

Speaker 1 Whatever it is at that moment in time, they'll take it, they'll use it up, and then they'll say, Thank you, don't beat it. Yeah, and that's iceberg sweats with IB on the elastic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's why I say no to so many companies, nigga. No, just because y'all do it.
Just because, yeah, you know, gatekeepers, you know what I'm saying? It ain't about metrics.

Speaker 1 They know, they may not have exact quantitative measures

Speaker 1 or they might.

Speaker 1 And if they do, they ain't gonna tell us. They know.
Okay, well, relax before y'all fuck up. My WWE check.

Speaker 1 Hey, shout out to you here.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up, nigga. What? I'm doing business with what? Can't just get up here giving your opinion on other people's business and lose your own business.
I would say this.

Speaker 1 You still doing WWE stuff? You goddamn right. Okay.
Yeah. Let us roll next time you do something.
You know, I'm a wrestling nerd.

Speaker 1 What's the joke?

Speaker 1 Facts. No, no, I'm not being funny.
Like, I had a joke cooking, but I didn't get there yet. No, I really do fuck with

Speaker 1 growing up. They might have saw you, though.
Oh, with the fourth rope thing? Yeah. Oh.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think about that. Yeah, no, I grew up.
All I watched was wrestling.

Speaker 1 Shout out to them. They took good care of me at SummerSlam.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I can't speak for how Dunn is being treated. I think it's not right, but

Speaker 1 relax, Flip. The joke ain't on you.
You should come to the wrestling event, too.

Speaker 1 They got some on Tuesdays, right?

Speaker 1 They do. They do.
I can go on Friday. I can go any day.
That's different. I can go any day, though.
I can go to WWE events. Madison Quick on it anyway.
They welcome me over and off.

Speaker 1 But I do want you, big-time company, if you care to, if you care to, get somebody that can identify what would help your company.

Speaker 1 Because that part, I think. It ain't a handout.
Yeah, it's a partnership. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I'm saying identify people that's going to help in the short and long term, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they could have,

Speaker 1 you could have put, if he would have taken it. I'm not saying that he would have taken it because that could have been his dream all along, but you could have made gunn,

Speaker 1 given him a position at WWE. Right.
Not to bring us full circle back to the top. Shout out to that.
But a lot of times, well, 99% of the times, your nose are part of your story.

Speaker 1 It's back to what's for you is for you.

Speaker 1 I know that y'all think it's avoiding accountability, and it can be. But hey,

Speaker 1 now go put a little more vigor into your own shit, more time.

Speaker 1 More money. I felt disrespected over there, so now I can't show you.
I don't believe it over here. Now I'm only supposed to have a lot of money.
I gotta show you niggas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he got some crazy shit cooking. So shout out to Gunman.
Shout out to Gunn.

Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else? What else?

Speaker 1 We didn't get to Summer Walker at all. We talked about Poor Minds.
Poor Minds are featured in Summer Walker's

Speaker 1 publicity skit that they just did, which I loved. Yeah, it was Superfire.
Superfire. Shout out to Lex Andrea.
Summer Walker put out her

Speaker 1 feature list, I want to say. Okay.
And it looks pretty cool. Yeah.
It looks pretty cool. Let me pull it up.
There's going to be some shit on there. Her soul.
of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, table one, table two, table three, table four, table five. So everyone's seated at a different table.

Speaker 1 It's nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's pretty. Let me see.
Let's pull it up here.

Speaker 1 Table two. You told me it's some shit on there.
Table two is the one. Yeah, table two.
I read table two. I'm looking for the thing, but table two.
I read table two and was like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Table two is what we're looking for. Here we go, right here.
Table one, we have Jeremiah, Lil Yachty, 1985,

Speaker 1 Gene Baptiste,

Speaker 1 John Baptiste, I'm sorry,

Speaker 1 and Terrace Martin.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's nice. It's not a bad fan.

Speaker 1 Table two, though. Not a bad table, right there.
That's a good table. Music is, that's a good table.
Okay. Table two.
Come on, Joe. Troy Taylor, Brian Michael Cox.
Okay. The Dream.
All right.

Speaker 1 Cuck Harell.

Speaker 1 Ant Clemens.

Speaker 1 That's the table. Table two.

Speaker 1 Table two. That's the one.
That's the one. Table three.
We have Montel Fish, Anderson Pack, Sailor, Glorilla, Sexy Red.

Speaker 1 Table four, we have Lotto, Bryson Tiller, Teddy Swims, Chris Brown, 21 Savage. Table Swims by the way, I like that.
Table four is the table.

Speaker 1 Teddy Swims is at the Rockefeller Hall favorite, too. He smoked.
Carry on, sorry. Table five is Mariah the Scientist, Brent Fires, Nini Leaks, Naija.
Slim Wave and Manelio. Manelo.
Monaleo.

Speaker 1 Oh, Monaleo. Oh, Monaleo is the girl.
Yeah. Oh, she's fire.
She's fire. She's fine.

Speaker 1 And those are your tables. Okay.
I like that. We got a date for that? I took the table wood.
Friday. That's the one.
Oh, shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This album is coming out Friday. I might call out.

Speaker 1 I might call out.

Speaker 1 I know that summer has been calling me all types of bitches and herds. That's cool.

Speaker 1 Who cares?

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 We don't heat. I'm here for Friday.
I'm here for Friday. Call what you want.
Hey, if you don't know how I work by now, I use all of your time in between albums to say what I want to say.

Speaker 1 But if you fire album week and the week after,

Speaker 1 not a peep out of it. Damn, the album's called Finally Over It.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's going to be nice. You just do that what you want.
It's going to be nice. This is going to be good.
Sounds good to me. Shit.

Speaker 1 Chris.

Speaker 1 Dream, B. Cox.

Speaker 1 And Clemens.

Speaker 1 I know Tilla's going to go crazy on here.

Speaker 1 21. Terrace Martin.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is going to be nice. Yeah.
This is going to be nice. It's going to be one.
John Baptiste is interesting.

Speaker 1 From a music standpoint? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just feel like he could vibe with anything. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 It might.

Speaker 1 He's great. This album that came out of the series was solid.
The RD did like half of it. Yeah.
Yeah, solid. I'm going to check out production on this album.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't have anything else on this album.

Speaker 1 There's no track list. You don't need that much more.
I don't need nothing else. What are you talking about? I think that album is coming Friday.
All right, final thoughts on numbers?

Speaker 1 Thoughts on numbers? I know I shot rather high. What did you say?

Speaker 1 The first time I said something real high. Three? The first time I said she might crack three.
Then y'all brought me back down to Earth.

Speaker 1 I definitely have her cracking two. Me too.
And then that might be high for her, but I got to cracking two. I got two.
I don't.

Speaker 1 Buck 50. I think Buck 50 is general.
I was going to say 125. That's what I really was about to say.
No, you're not stupid. Buck 50, you're not stupid.
Oh, we got some music coming out Friday.

Speaker 1 I was about to say 125. Let's 165.
The last one was 166. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm going to go 175. Okay.
175. I'm 25.
I got 185 to 200.

Speaker 1 I hope she gets 500. I'm just.
Yeah. Just being realistic.
Go summer. We can't wait to hear this album.

Speaker 1 She ain't failed me yet. No, she don't.
She failed. I think both of them are

Speaker 1 over it albums. She dark.
That's why I'm like, you're naming it. Trilogy.
Okay, let's get it. Let's get it.
You got Wale dropping Friday as well. Everything is a lot.
Finally, the album's coming out.

Speaker 1 Maybe a good week for music. That's going to be a good day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a good day.

Speaker 1 Wale, you should be on summer shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wale.
Wale.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. I was just in the strip club with Wale the other day.
Wale

Speaker 1 came and paid me a visit in Starlitz.

Speaker 1 He's funny. Yeah, dude.
Stupid me. When I talk to you rappers and y'all say I'll meet you at the strip club, I think y'all moving like me.

Speaker 1 Like, this is going to be us two like the two of us oh no no no no you're the whole squad him and 20 motherfuckers coming all right wale y'all

Speaker 1 i'm head on out of here

Speaker 1 i ain't home

Speaker 1 what was that you home away gang oh yeah exact town exact town away gang

Speaker 1 that's true yeah yeah go wale

Speaker 1 um so wale drives who else

Speaker 1 somebody else it's all that matter yeah that's all i'm looking for that's all i'm looking for wale man buy yourself out of death gym man buy yourself out of there

Speaker 1 i ain't gonna hold you you again. Wait a day, ain't nobody gonna say it because we love you.
Buy yourself. I do the clip, pull a clip smooth.
You making good music.

Speaker 1 You're still one of the best rappers in the world.

Speaker 1 You have a prime. Don't just throw it all away on Def Jam.
What has Dep Jam done to let people know that Wale is coming out?

Speaker 1 I know Wale is coming out because Wale keep doing shit.

Speaker 1 Dep Jam,

Speaker 1 Dep Jam got to feel sick seeing the clips

Speaker 1 like that. All these Grammy noms.
And that was such a Def Jam album they put out. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I agree with that. Jesus, that was a good one.
Imagine based on what they did, and if y'all would have gave them whatever push, the crazy thing is they wouldn't have did this on Def Jam.

Speaker 1 Say more. The same album drops, it don't even get received.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 I keep telling y'all, a lot of that came from the clips moving and getting themselves where they needed to be, getting a reception for that album. But why wouldn't they do that on Def Jam?

Speaker 1 Def Jam don't do it. Who have they done it for? I'm not saying they don't do it.

Speaker 1 No issues asking why wouldn't they grind?

Speaker 1 Rock Nation probably has more pull today than Def Jam has. What I'm saying is this.

Speaker 1 The Clips use their own personal organic relationships. Not all of them.
No, that's not true. No, that's not all of them.
That's a myth.

Speaker 1 That's not true. Whatever happened that people loved was a combination of Pharrell, Clips, Rock Nation.
And Rock Nation. It was all of them.
Well, all of them.

Speaker 1 And if you take out Rock Nation and put Def Jam,

Speaker 1 it's not going to be the same.

Speaker 1 It ain't. It's not going to be the same.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, Def Jam used to be my Def Jam, the best label in the world. Best label in the world.
What do you think contributes to that, Joe?

Speaker 1 What do you think contributes to that not being the same? Is it they're not spending a lot more money? The shit is a storefront.

Speaker 1 It's being handled like a storefront. It's a storefront.

Speaker 1 Pretty much. It's a storefront.
Pretty much. That's all it is.
It's there in name. It's a big channel.
That means

Speaker 1 the bigger company, the parent company, is not putting money into Def Jam.

Speaker 1 Why would it? They're pulling money away from it. They're taking money out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Who won Def Jam killing? Think about it like this.
Who won Def Jam? Who's on Def Jam Killing? Justin Bieber is. True.
Yeah, he's killing. I mean.
Justin Bieber's definitely killing.

Speaker 1 He's killing, Joe. Is he the only one left? Is that killing? And that's my point.

Speaker 1 Is he killing?

Speaker 1 Is Justin Bieber? We didn't even know he was dropping. He's not to be Justin Bieber.
I mean, he put number one twice and got a Grammy nomination.

Speaker 1 In the right week, you can hit 60 and go number one. Dog, you put

Speaker 1 60. I'm just saying.
Saying he went number one.

Speaker 1 In the right wing.

Speaker 1 Nothing else is moving right now.

Speaker 1 Justin ain't did what Justin does.

Speaker 1 Justin ain't been that Justin in a while, and the music is good. So you got an A-level artist whose music is good.

Speaker 1 If the visibility ain't what it's supposed to be, most times you're putting out on the label.

Speaker 1 And the A-level artist has two albums that you're going to put out within months of each other.

Speaker 1 Shouldn't we be seeing more Justin?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I see.

Speaker 1 He did 163 his first week.

Speaker 1 They don't have numbers for the second one. Yeah, that's what I was looking for.

Speaker 1 Even that says a lot. Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 1 Good album, though. It is a good album, yeah.
Good along y'all for a while. I don't know if I ever went back to the deluxe.
It was good, and it sounded better.

Speaker 1 Well, shit, the album before that did 154, so he actually got better from the 2021 when I dropped. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sober for Def Jig. I've been telling y'all forever.
And I got people over there. I'm sorry.
But

Speaker 1 that's why I've always been. It's super quiet, yeah.

Speaker 1 Have y'all been following this

Speaker 1 I don't know if I call it beef It seems a little bit like a beef with Michelle

Speaker 1 Beatle and Stephen A. Smith.
No, no

Speaker 1 Carrie Champion is a third piece of it Carrie Champion weighed in on the beef between Michelle and Stephen so Michelle used to be at ESPN. Right.
Okay. And she

Speaker 1 left ESPN,

Speaker 1 not by her own choice. She has a new podcast and on her podcast, she starts going in on Stephen A.
Smith. I think we might have, do we have her clip? Her clip is in Stephen's clip.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So and then so we and so then Stephen responds to her and he normally don't respond to stuff but he decided it was time to respond to this woman. But Carrie Champion jumped.
She had bad blood?

Speaker 1 Well, so that's just it. Stephen says no.
He says I barely knew this woman. I've said nothing but hello and goodbye to her.
She says when I worked at ESPN, I wouldn't be in the same room as him.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be in the same studio as him because I don't respect him.

Speaker 1 And she started going in.

Speaker 1 He works hard because they don't work him too hard. He wants to do all this stuff.
She kind of talked to him almost like a narcissist. You said this is her new podcast? What's wrong with that, though?

Speaker 1 That it's a great question. I didn't quite get it from how she said it either.
Coming at me.

Speaker 1 And one of those people was a lady by the name of

Speaker 1 Michelle Beatle.

Speaker 1 Let's get into it, Steve.

Speaker 1 You can't hear this voice. She took to going on the attack.
I'm playing this whole shit too. You know, her latest attack against me, she's been coming at me for over a decade.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And if you've noticed, I've never once responded.

Speaker 1 Okay. That makes sense.
Not one time.

Speaker 1 In over 11 years,

Speaker 1 I have not responded.

Speaker 1 Even in my book, straight a man walks up second chances to first take a New York Times bestseller, by the way. I'll make sure I'll give it to you.

Speaker 1 And congrats.

Speaker 1 Even in the book, I didn't mention her name.

Speaker 1 But for some reason,

Speaker 1 which is why my man Juby calls it Santa Claus, buddy, they keep mentioning my name. Let me let you hear

Speaker 1 what

Speaker 1 this woman had to say about me. I'm gonna pause this.
I love when people do that when I'm playing a clip. Like, we should be more well researched.
I love when people, hey, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 I'm gonna show you what she said. Hey, thank you.
That's some messy shit. Her latest friend.
Take a listen.

Speaker 2 The guy is making money off of.

Speaker 2 ESPN pays him a gazillion dollars.

Speaker 1 To not work there full time.

Speaker 2 To get a lot of stuff wrong and yell, right?

Speaker 1 That's constantly.

Speaker 2 Playing solitaire during the NBA freaking fucking

Speaker 1 expensive

Speaker 1 genius in.

Speaker 2 And so instead of like, yeah, he doubles down and he does this. If I'm ESPN.
They tag team with the hanging. And I get it.
You created this monster. He is bigger than you now.

Speaker 2 And that's exactly your fault and your fault only. You let him run rampant all over that company and put his face on every, for everybody who's like, oh, he works so hard.

Speaker 2 I'm going to let you in on a little behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 What's T? He wants to do that.

Speaker 2 Nobody's asking him.

Speaker 1 He's desperate to do that.

Speaker 2 He shows up.

Speaker 2 I told everyone I work with, I will never share a set with that person ever. Because I don't respect him.
And I don't, life's too short.

Speaker 2 So that being said, I'm like, he made you look like fools for handing him a blank check in the first place because he doesn't even give a shit about the stuff that he's paid a gazillion dollars to talk about.

Speaker 2 And now he's turning around and turning that into a money-making opportunity. And the money-making opportunity turns out it looks like it's a fraudulent crap business to begin with.

Speaker 2 Honestly, I'm not a religious person, but I pray for the downfall.

Speaker 1 I really,

Speaker 1 I just

Speaker 1 a couple of things.

Speaker 1 Here we go. Should I pause it and hear from y'all? Yes, let me pause and hear from my distinguished panel.

Speaker 1 It sounds like a bunch of hate. It is a bunch of hate.
That's it. So

Speaker 1 I'm not the guy to ever say to anybody, I pray for somebody's downfall. Yeah, it sounds crazy.
I think it's tacky. I think it's whack.

Speaker 1 You say, yo, they don't force him to work that hard. He's just working that hard because he wants to do that.
That's a it still does not negate the fact that he's working hard.

Speaker 1 That's a confidential hard. And if I'm working hard

Speaker 1 and you didn't make me work hard,

Speaker 1 that's his reward is the gazillion dollars that they talk about you know what it sounds like it sounds like they mad because he worked so hard it's making them look bad right yeah it does sound like

Speaker 1 i'm mad at that like he worked hard earned his money and i was making me look away i didn't take that part that way that's what i took and i'm not mad at nobody for taking it this is open to interpretation i took the

Speaker 1 uh they're not asking him to work he's work he he's trying to get on every show on his own i took that to Coralie to her. Now he's bigger than ESP endpoint, and you have a problem with that.

Speaker 1 I took it as her saying, y'all are the ones. Created the monster.
Yeah, y'all are the ones that let him get this off right up under your noses. And now look at where you stand.

Speaker 1 Look at where y'all stand today versus where he stands today. He's bigger than y'all.
Which means,

Speaker 1 yo, which means that I voluntarily,

Speaker 1 even if it does, I voluntarily. created my value.

Speaker 1 Even if I went on this show for free and this show for free and this show for free and this show for free and I kicked ass on those shows, I created my own value and worked hard. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I took my fate into my own hands and created my own value to the point where I became a valuable asset that people wanted to see. If he went on these shows voluntarily and didn't do shit,

Speaker 1 you're not creating value.

Speaker 1 Listen, you all want to hear what he had to say? Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Just a little more context.

Speaker 1 Because I don't think he says it in the clip. No, he might actually.
I don't want to ruin it. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Be next Next to her.

Speaker 1 I don't know you from a can of paint.

Speaker 1 I think his name is Cody Decker.

Speaker 1 I heard you used to play in minor leagues like eight years.

Speaker 1 I feel Steve here because homeboy was too loud.

Speaker 1 He was doing too much on the side for somebody I never met. Yo, hold up.
Now,

Speaker 1 he did anything that I say. He wasn't?

Speaker 1 He was on ways. He was doing too much.
He was finished and said, this is co-signing. In a second, has absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 I disagree. That happens in podcasting too much, I feel like.

Speaker 1 If I got beefed with

Speaker 1 somebody on another podcast because we went through something or we had an experience or we had a fallout or we was out somewhere, you let me get jumped, whatever the case may be, it's ours, right?

Speaker 1 That don't give your co-host that I've never met full right to feel how you feel and jump on the mic with this same type of now. In podcasting, that happens a lot

Speaker 1 but i think that's corny i do like michelle beetle should be able to say what she's saying to steve he should be able to say what she's saying back without a minor league dude jumping in so aggressive

Speaker 1 i i agree me personally i think they selling they pod

Speaker 1 this goes back to the kanye thing i i think i think you get loud you get boisterous you hope that The Joe Button podcast and every other medium picks it up and talks about it.

Speaker 1 So now I'm going to get some eyes on my shit. That's why I asked the question when I said,

Speaker 1 I was like, is this stay new pod? That's where I was going. This stay new pod.
I'm going to shoot at the big dog. Only reason why I disagree with that a little bit is because he said

Speaker 1 she's been doing this for 11 years. That's true.

Speaker 1 But now I'm on a new podcast. Yeah, but if you've been constantly shooting at me for, now, if this was right out the blue and you just start shooting, I get it.

Speaker 1 Aim high and hope that that person says something to you, put light on you. I got it.
There's another piece of this.

Speaker 1 It's not just that they have a new podcast, it's that she had a radio show and a slot on Sirius that just got pushed out. And it's been replaced by a new show.

Speaker 1 Stephen A. Smith.

Speaker 1 Oh, so she's tight.

Speaker 1 That's not coincidental that she. And it's like, anytime I blow up somewhere, here you go.
You got a hard-working ass. I called you.
I'm coming up the best. I hope your success.
continues to grow.

Speaker 1 That's right. And you make the most of the career that you try to do.
You know what I'm doing? You're making too much money. You did short hands.

Speaker 1 All the best to you, bro. I don't know you.

Speaker 1 Don't know you.

Speaker 1 My comments are strictly directed at this woman. This lady.
Who I will remind y'all I have not said a word about in over 11 years. I've never spoken about her.
Do y'all know why? Let's get it.

Speaker 1 I don't know her.

Speaker 1 You would think there's some beat that's been going on and it's been It has been pervasive throughout the industry for years. It's all because of her.
Y'all believe you don't know her? No.

Speaker 1 I have never

Speaker 1 said more than hello or goodbye to her in the initial stages. And we was at one event for ESPN in 2013 or wherever it was, where we might have spoken for a minute or two.
I don't know this woman

Speaker 1 at all.

Speaker 1 So when you hear her talking about me,

Speaker 1 please understand.

Speaker 1 I don't know her. All right, all right.
I have no idea. All All right, Steve.
We got it. We got it.
That kills people. Let me get the

Speaker 1 who are you? All right, I got to get the other clip. This is this is

Speaker 1 Black Matters here. Here we go.
That Michelle Beatle shit wasn't none of my business, but now we got Carrie Champion action. Hold up.

Speaker 1 Champion is a person.

Speaker 1 Let me get to somebody I do know. Ooh,

Speaker 1 do it, Steve. At least I thought I knew.

Speaker 1 This guy's a pro. And that's Miss Kerry Champion.
Shout out to Carrie Champion. Love you, Carrie.
Love you, Carrie. Kerry Champion is a person

Speaker 1 that used to host First Tape.

Speaker 1 Huge fan. Used to work at ESPN.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Used to do Sports Nation, stuff like that. Did a pretty damn good.
If you listen out there and you don't know what Carrie Champion said,

Speaker 1 you're going to tell us.

Speaker 1 I have to tell you,

Speaker 1 I was taken aback, and I think the word shocked. Aback.

Speaker 1 I take it back when it came to this Michelle Beetle brew ha ha.

Speaker 1 Brew ha.

Speaker 1 Take this. I love this dude.
Please

Speaker 1 play cut number seven. Here we go.
Stephen A.

Speaker 3 I played that Michelle Beetle clip for one reason and one reason only. I'm old enough to remember being on that show and getting in trouble based on some comments you said.

Speaker 3 about women and whether or not they should know their place when it comes to abuse or non-abuse.

Speaker 3 Ray Rice comes to mind. Not going to get into the details of all of that.

Speaker 1 New Jovan.

Speaker 3 But Beetle just came for you yet again, like she did when I worked at ESPN.

Speaker 3 I wonder: do you have that same smoke for her

Speaker 3 that you have for Jasmine Crockett, that you have for Michelle Obama, that you sometimes display for me and Jamal Hill?

Speaker 1 Do you have that same smoke?

Speaker 3 I'm sick of it.

Speaker 3 Keep the same energy.

Speaker 1 And I call you and I root for you and I say, hey, I got your back.

Speaker 3 I'm happy for you. You keep that same energy, sir, for everybody.

Speaker 1 You should be ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 1 You just said, Kerry, you call me. You root for me.
Why would you root for somebody that called you out and Jamel Hill, who's your good friend?

Speaker 1 Because it's never happened.

Speaker 1 Never.

Speaker 1 enough, because that clip is eight minutes. Distinguished panel, distinguished panel.
I don't have enough information. I don't know if he's ever called them out.

Speaker 1 I've never heard him call them out, but Carrie don't usually sell wolf tickets. So

Speaker 1 there's some information that's missing there that I don't know. It feels a little bit like some inside

Speaker 1 your man, boy.

Speaker 1 He got a relationship with somebody.

Speaker 1 You can tell when he got his panty lines in.

Speaker 1 His cape is flapping, too.

Speaker 1 You can tell when he got the big tamp on it. All that shit.
The super kid. Super Max.

Speaker 1 Super Max.

Speaker 1 The Diaper Wood.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. We don't know anything.
All we can do.

Speaker 1 I'm asking you off based off the queue.

Speaker 1 It sounds like there's some behind-the-scenes shit that we don't know, is all I'm saying. Because it's not adding up to me.
And I've known,

Speaker 1 they're cool. I always hear Jamel shout out Stephen A and say supportive things and vice versa.

Speaker 1 So I don't, I'm actually shocked to hear that part. That's all I'm saying.
I don't know. It feels like some behind-the-scenes.

Speaker 1 Who were the first two people she named before she said herself and Jamal Hill? She said Michelle Obama and Jesse

Speaker 1 Jasmine Crawford. Jasmine Crockett.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's black woman power.

Speaker 1 I get it. Yeah, and I'm not mad.
I understand it. I understand it.
Like, yo, I want you to have the same exact vitriol and vigor that you have for this white lady that you have for the black lady.

Speaker 1 Well, that's where it's not black woman power to me.

Speaker 1 That's where it's not that to me. Crockett.
Jasmine Crawford. That's what I was saying.
I said Crawford. I just said her name right Crockett.
Oh, I thought I heard Crockett.

Speaker 1 Our black woman matters, we can discuss, not off the back of whatever this white lady is saying.

Speaker 1 But no, that's what you have to discuss it off the back of.

Speaker 1 She's saying, yo, this white lady took a shot at you. Before, and you try to act like you don't know her.
Cool. Now I want you to be as venomous.
for this white lady

Speaker 1 the same exact way you have been for the black ladies. That's what she's saying.
I got it. So don't come up here and be soft and whisper for the white lady when you be at the top of your fucking

Speaker 1 tone for the black lady. I understand that.
And I agree. I agree with that as well.
Some niggas just like milk.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I don't appreciate.

Speaker 1 I want to agree.

Speaker 1 I want to agree.

Speaker 1 I want to agree with y'all. I just don't know.

Speaker 1 If I hire somebody and we just talked on the phone, like she said, we talk. You support me.
We kick it. It's not, the relationship is not like he's explaining with Michelle Beetle.
No,

Speaker 1 she's not saying it. Her.
Oh, okay. No, I get that part of what you're saying.
I'm now talking about his POV, which he continued. We just spoke on the phone.
We speak. You support me.
I support you.

Speaker 1 If you felt this way,

Speaker 1 why not say it to me

Speaker 1 privately or on the phone?

Speaker 1 Why is the first time I'm hearing about publicly from somebody i consider someone a friend i agree on on the internet

Speaker 1 that's where i'm saying i want to agree with you i'm with him there the two things the two things are true yeah yeah dog if you're gonna pull me up in public and i just spoke to you you my man why the fuck you're talking about

Speaker 1 you on the phone exactly but what she's saying could still be True She just shouldn't have said it on the phone. She shouldn't have said it.
She should have said it then. Yes, I agree.

Speaker 1 So I looked up just to see what he might have said about Jamal Hill because I'm trying to find her first.

Speaker 1 Back in 2017, Jamal Hill tweeted a couple of things about Trump. Yeah, the sports fired or released.
Calling him the white supremacist stuff. And he basically said, we're a sports network.

Speaker 1 We speak for ourselves, but we don't speak on behalf of the brand. When you attack the president, you're stepping out of our lane.
So he kind of sided with the company over her.

Speaker 1 Well, who's surprised to hear? No,

Speaker 1 I'm saying who's surprised to hear that Stephen A is a company man. But he could have said nothing.
He could have said nothing, which is his point to Chick Carey.

Speaker 1 Unless ESPN told him to say something. That's not what a company man is, though.
Good part.

Speaker 1 Saying nothing. I'm just trying to see where the smoke was in that.

Speaker 1 Now, I remember all of that

Speaker 1 when Trump ran and

Speaker 1 Jamel and Michael and ESPN had a slew of very intelligent black people that were on air using their platforms to say, yo, dog. And I remember ESPN had a big big problem.

Speaker 1 If nobody ever said nothing, you could tell by what they did with each personality that they had a problem. Margaret just said she got released.

Speaker 1 I mean, she was, that was, yeah, that was, like, they were anchoring Sports Center at that time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then they weren't.

Speaker 1 You know, I don't know if she was technically fired, but certainly that was the, that was the, ESPN made it very clear.

Speaker 1 And Jamal's made it clear since then, you know, that that was the last thing when she tweeted that Donald Trump was a white supremacist, which at the time was still seen out of bounds.

Speaker 1 I don't think if you tweet that in 2022

Speaker 1 or 2024, I think she was ahead of the curve. I think she was right.
If you tweet it now, you still live or lose your job, depending on where you work at. ESPN, yes, that's a thousand million ways.

Speaker 1 But the global outrage was even more in 2017 because a lot of stuff had not happened yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And just, just,

Speaker 1 we've become way more free as a society in critiquing the president of the United States. And because he's kind of come down to

Speaker 1 civilian level. You know what I'm saying? Like, he a jerk, so we could call him a jerk.
Whereas other presidents, even if you didn't agree with him, they still had this level of dignity and class.

Speaker 1 George Bush, people didn't like him, but he was still a likable guy because he maintained a certain level of decorum. This motherfucker right here, like, he from the slums.
But it's also who the ESPN

Speaker 1 The ESPN audience is a different audience, too, because a lot of times we think about who we watch ESPN with. True.
But most of the country that watches ESPN, it's the people that's watching NASCAR.

Speaker 1 It's the people that's watching.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, that ain't what they want to hear.
That ain't what they want to hear. right?

Speaker 1 Half the country is pissed off that they even anchoring sports center shoot black people at the same time. They didn't like the Stuart Scott who was dropping a rap lyric, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, rest in peace to the great Stuart Scott.

Speaker 1 But when you talk about, like, now you're talking about my president, half the country voted for this motherfucker at the time, and now more than half. So, like, yeah, no, that was

Speaker 1 really good. His pen is thinking about the money.
Really good point.

Speaker 1 Well, there you have it. There you have it.
That's a great point. Shout out to Carrie.
Yeah, for sure. Jamal.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Steve and Jack. Shout out to Steve.
Steve came up easy. He's the man.

Speaker 1 But what I will say is Steve is on.

Speaker 1 Nah, not yet.

Speaker 1 Not yet. Speaking of Trump, though, just for a hot second, y'all see the Commanders game when he got booed? No, I missed it, unfortunately.
Oh, you got to see it. It's worth it.

Speaker 1 Because it's not like a little boo.

Speaker 1 Presidents get booed sometimes. You know, I've seen people politics get booed.
This was so bad, even Fox News was like, oh, and it was a bit, it appears that they're booing the president.

Speaker 1 Well, it didn't help that he was announcing that he wanted to have the stadium named after him. Yeah.
I think that's actually what prompted the booze.

Speaker 1 Deservedly so.

Speaker 1 This nigga just like you're supposed to like, people are supposed to want to name some shit after you. You're not supposed to like demand that they name some shit after you.

Speaker 1 Yo, come name this block after me. My shit.
Yo, that is crazy, dog. Yo.
You don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Look, look, narcissistic dandy over here.

Speaker 1 I also don't think it'll happen.

Speaker 1 Unless the commanders, clearly, they need help with names.

Speaker 1 They were the Washington football team for

Speaker 1 which was a better name than the Commanders.

Speaker 1 And better name than the Trumps. Yo, we're going to be the FedEx Phil, and we're going to name it the Trump Phil.

Speaker 1 Well, y'all, the commanders, I'm the commander-in-chief, and I ain't never leaving. It's your favorite parts of Manhattan.
Got Trump written all over you. Shut up.
Not mine.

Speaker 1 You've been to Trump International. Asked for you.

Speaker 1 Trump Towers? There you are. Trump Towers.

Speaker 1 That's where Ace wants to live when it's said in Trump Tower. He wants to live in Trump Tower.
Picture that.

Speaker 1 You ain't never stayed there? Come on.

Speaker 1 Never?

Speaker 1 Trump Tower? Never. Trump International.
You've been to Trump Tower before?

Speaker 1 I've been to Trump Tower once with Candace Owens, actually. Let me hear that sounded crazy.
That's a great ball.

Speaker 1 Big ball.

Speaker 1 Big busy.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 down, down, baby. Come get another

Speaker 1 shit led to sucker.

Speaker 1 Iceland, Charleston, shoot. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 No, the transgender is the best. I don't know if that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 Mark the whole shit out. Nope.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, just that word.

Speaker 1 But no, no, I meant when I did that interview with Candace, we did it in Trump.

Speaker 1 In a suite in Trump.

Speaker 1 Was it nice in it? Is it nice? Presidential suite? You did it in Trump and it was sweet. Is what you said?

Speaker 1 It was great. It's very.
Marklebaugh Hill and Candice Holland did it. California.

Speaker 1 There were no beds in this room. Oh, gotcha.

Speaker 1 I don't want to big up.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to. Well, I don't want to big up Trump.
But there were some pictures floating around of the

Speaker 1 redesign he did to the

Speaker 1 bathroom. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they showed the old bathroom and the new bathroom. Yeah, yeah.
Is that what he won't be? His bathroom's better.

Speaker 1 The architect did it.

Speaker 1 His bathroom's better.

Speaker 1 I'm not wrong about that.

Speaker 1 All beautiful white marble, everyone. Wish it was like some old 50s, Dark Deco, like

Speaker 1 dolphins colors. Yes.

Speaker 1 It was like 1950s turquoise. Marx is right.
It was nasty.

Speaker 1 And we got to see

Speaker 1 redoing that over office now. I might not pay the architect, though.

Speaker 1 His track record, but it's cool. I'm just talking about the redesign.
Yeah, I'm designing all of it. I might not be paying, motherfucker.
We're not leaving. I'm trying to get.

Speaker 1 He's getting comfy. Yes.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm doing all this shit. Is he giving all us two grand?

Speaker 1 It's for the non-rich. He said.
So who is us? It said the non-rich.

Speaker 1 Did it say that? I think the rest of us might be good. We We good.

Speaker 1 You not good.

Speaker 1 How is he giving all of us two grand? I thought we was back.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Hey, no. Oh, wait, what is that? No, I said all of us, but you are getting it.
Yeah, you don't get it. Yo.

Speaker 1 I'm like a great O-line boy. You getting it too grand? Hide behind me.
You protect niggas?

Speaker 1 Yo, hide behind me, y'all. Hey, they write audience.
It's just dumb. Take all the shots, nigga.
It's just dumb. Take all the shots.
Getting two grand. That's stupid.
Did you get it too grand?

Speaker 1 I don't know what the requirement

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 1 I assume. But you didn't know last time and you still put that little.

Speaker 1 You never got to. Don't laugh, Reese.

Speaker 1 He'll snatch that shit right on up from my son. You know what?

Speaker 1 I could have got that two grand. But you, it's good.

Speaker 1 I never got to. I'll give you my two grand.

Speaker 1 Yo. You getting the two grand? Yeah.

Speaker 1 My man, let me get $100. Yo, where are the Trump tax breaks?

Speaker 1 Good question.

Speaker 1 Is that a bad thing to ask on a black podcast? No. I ain't vote for them.

Speaker 1 But you acting like it, nigga. Don't get Mark started.
Don't get Mark started.

Speaker 1 But what? But listen, but you said that. But once y'all did, I mean, I did.
Since we hear, it should have started to benefit a little bit.

Speaker 1 Hell, no.

Speaker 1 I ain't seen her break the first.

Speaker 1 It wasn't for you.

Speaker 1 Yes, they was. No, it's for his people.
No, they was for him.

Speaker 1 I mean, I thought it was going to be. He in that bracket? No, he in that bracket.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he's in that bracket. I'm talking about the other shit.

Speaker 1 Joe's in that bracket. You crazy?

Speaker 1 I'm talking about that other shit. I ain't seen nothing happen.
That's all I'm saying. Maybe Parks might be ready.

Speaker 1 I ain't seen nothing shaking.

Speaker 1 It's going up, actually. You gotta go the other route, nigga.
I mean, you married. You made more.
You made a lot more, that's all. Yeah, you ain't playing for the.
What you said? The second?

Speaker 1 The fall off, nigga. Yeah, the fall off.
And you ain't prepared for the upgrade. Just

Speaker 1 I ain't preparing for no fall off. I'll get rid of one of y'all before this goes down.
We know. Yeah.
Fuck you.

Speaker 1 Well, we know. You already hit.
Oh, you didn't know?

Speaker 1 All right, we got

Speaker 1 Travis Scott said.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 Get rid of those stupid. Y'all having mad fun.
Y'all laughing. Y'all laughing at my expense.
What y'all saying? Nah, nah, I'm down with you, nigga. We down with you, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's down with you, but I'm down with you, too.

Speaker 1 Nah, I don't give you your pants. Stab me up.
Nah, I guess. Stab me up.
Don't fall for the fan-made narrative. Give me half.
Give me half. Fall for the Joe May narrative.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Don't fall for the fan narrative.

Speaker 1 Don't fall for the fan-made narrative. I can't give him half because you.

Speaker 1 I can't give him half because I'm not getting half. So I give my man back.

Speaker 1 What's your full, boy?

Speaker 1 You gotta work smarter, not hard up. That's it.
There you go. They really gave me that.
That's giving you that excuse. Look, you're working shit.

Speaker 1 Look, son. You're working hard.
You're working smarter.

Speaker 1 Don't listen to what they're telling you.

Speaker 1 You're getting twice.

Speaker 1 It is a pot of gold as it is. It's that rainbow.

Speaker 1 They got to.

Speaker 1 Clip believes the narrative.

Speaker 1 Hold on.

Speaker 1 There's corporate men and there's a corporate man, nigga. Watch your fucking mouth, nigga.
You hear me? No, don't. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 You've been working for niggas for your whole life, nigga. You heard? I've been self-employed.
You've been working with niggas for your whole life. I've been self-employed for you.

Speaker 1 You been self-employed.

Speaker 1 You've been working with niggas this whole life, too. Standing on my own boy.
I've been self-employed for 21 years.

Speaker 1 When you was bragging about your T-Mobile chat.

Speaker 1 My wife's a campaign to this day. I thought it was a Cadillac.

Speaker 1 I had the X3, too. She said, you didn't even get the X5.
You a bump. My wife

Speaker 1 cursed me out the other day about that. Why are you bringing up that stupid shit?

Speaker 1 And we had an argument about, remember, back in the days, I used to use the food stamps or whatever the fuck she used to get to buy the, what's the new, what's that fucking

Speaker 1 drink?

Speaker 1 One of the natural drinks, nigga. She said, you'll buy all that shit.

Speaker 1 The naked. I'm about like 30, nigga.
She's like, nigga, you take half the money from the kids. I didn't give a fuck.
I was ignorant.

Speaker 1 It was a stretch where I was using the strawberry banana naked to chase a cigarette.

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 it didn't work for real no you can use anything to chase i'm just saying listen to that level of that sound

Speaker 1 yeah i'm glad you got out of that dog that's nasty that's a nasty boy yeah i don't care

Speaker 1 you drink naked

Speaker 1 you judging me

Speaker 1 have you drank naked i i've wanted to yeah no they filled with sugar though don't they sugar yeah they're like a 50 gram 60 grams oh yeah story came out about naked yeah they got no i heard that people here are natural at the time i I was drinking them too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'll take one down to the pinch, though, still.
I don't care. Still?

Speaker 1 In a parent shirt out of my shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, man. Enough to kill her.

Speaker 1 Naked.

Speaker 1 Travis Scott said, fuck pushy T. Y'all care? No.
No.

Speaker 1 Kanye popped out. I was glad he said it, though.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's right. What? Kanye popped back out with him? No.
No,

Speaker 1 Travis. Travis.
Oh. I don't care about that.
I'm just saying it's all happening at the same time.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Kanye and other niggas that need to just go to bed, go to sleep. I told you about Kanye and the rabbi.
Yeah, I told about that, all right? Yeah. Yeah, on Friday.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Smoked it. Smooth topic.

Speaker 1 I support that. I'm down with that.
I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go back and watch it. Shalom.
There you go. To give you my view.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Yeah, so appreciate it.
Appreciate that. No problem.
You bought it. All right, so y'all don't care that Travis God said fuck pushed.
You said you glad he said it? huh?

Speaker 1 You said you glad he said it. I'm glad he said it.
I like the niggas that can't rap for real, their diss being, yo, fuck this nigga.

Speaker 1 I like that. Because he should be able to have some type of defense for somebody that can rap.
Without getting in the booth. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he ain't going to do that. So get on stage and say, yeah,

Speaker 1 fuck that nigga. I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 1 When I put all Drake Diss's out and he was on tour, in every city, that nigga was like, yeah, pompa. Fuck that nigga.

Speaker 1 You remember that little song? That little slap? Pun pun. Man, fuck that.

Speaker 1 That shit is funny sometimes when a nigga says, man, fuck that nigga. You the big dog? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The funny shit was him trying to invite you to the show to do. Right, right.

Speaker 1 That was funny. No, the funny shit was my oldest son saying, okay,

Speaker 1 we're going to need them tickets from Drake. Nigga, if we are in all health war,

Speaker 1 the kids don't care about that shit. No, no.
The kids decide with who's hotter. Fuck how they got on earth.

Speaker 1 Let's see, let's see, let's see. Do y'all care about?

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, the government shutdown's almost over. Come on, round of applause.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 See? A nigga that's just out of touch.

Speaker 1 A nigga that's just out of touch.

Speaker 1 It was bad.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. All right.

Speaker 1 My bad.

Speaker 1 My bad. Yo, they could be shut down.
You don't give a fuck. I'm going to look at a lot.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Wait, no, tell me what happened.

Speaker 1 Mark, tell us, Mark.

Speaker 1 The Democrats came down all the shit.

Speaker 1 Basically,

Speaker 1 the reason they were holding out is the reason. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. The Affordable Care Act.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Basically,

Speaker 1 all they got, basically, was an agreement for a vote as opposed to actual funding or subsidies for it. So basically.
Take my clap, my employees. I'll put put them in reverse.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 They held out for a long time for basically nothing. Bitches.
They got to learn from the MTA. They got to

Speaker 1 learn.

Speaker 1 And no, and that's the knock on them. Yeah.
That's the knock.

Speaker 1 The Democrats is bitches. And it's a valid number.
It is. They're a bunch of super valid.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The niggas would have gone through Thanksgiving with no motherfucking bread and been blaming Trump for it,

Speaker 1 they might have got some more.

Speaker 1 Is the airport gonna be working again?

Speaker 1 What a great episode we had today.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna be home. I'm not flying.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 Yes, nigga. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They back.

Speaker 1 Look at you. This nigga's

Speaker 1 flying. High behind me, y'all.
Yo,

Speaker 1 that's you guys. That's only me.
Come on. That's you.

Speaker 1 This nigga got private jet money.

Speaker 1 you're going to Tita Brooklyn. What airport, yeah.

Speaker 1 The private jets are in a pickle too. It's the air traffic control.
Who do you think? Private jets like. You guys bleed too, huh? Joe.
Yeah. You guys, you was on a private jet too.
Yours.

Speaker 1 I think it was yours.

Speaker 1 It wasn't mine. That shit was smaller than my small shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, yo. That shit wasn't like.

Speaker 1 I was like Snoopy in that bitch. I was a private guy.

Speaker 1 What stop? Yeah. I was scared as shit.
My little scarf as shit.

Speaker 1 I mean, what fucking private shit? Private. niggas laying that.
Niggas say, yo, where's Woodstock in this bitch?

Speaker 1 Oh, that is a joke. That is a joke.
Fuck all the hell for the Snoopy jokes.

Speaker 1 Air traffic controller.

Speaker 1 All right, so we should have been rooting for the government shutdown to continue because it would have been the dim standing strong in the negotiations. In my opinion, yes.
Got it. Got it, got it.

Speaker 1 Most people are saying. That ain't how the Fox News explained it to me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm back.

Speaker 1 I'm back.

Speaker 1 They didn't say that at all. At all.

Speaker 1 Why do you see his news channel, right? Yo, why are you on Fox, though?

Speaker 1 Because you ever watch. Yo, all right.
Guilty pleasure.

Speaker 1 I like Fox News as news in the morning. In the morning.
Local? Like, yeah, local news.

Speaker 1 Oh, you mean Fox Five? Fox Five. Fox Five.
Fox Five.

Speaker 1 I thought you said Fox News. Yeah, that's a different thing.
That's totally Fox Five blog.

Speaker 1 It told me funnier when it was Fox News. 4:30 in the morning.
It's funnier Fox News. The 5.30 and then 5.30 and 6.30.
Going to the 500. Right within them.
And Diana fucking. That's different.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Wait, don't Fox Five. Y'all think you got a crush on Mike Woods, too, yo.

Speaker 1 Come on, Mike. Oh, he's talking about Mike Woods.

Speaker 1 Mike's Woods. Oh, well.

Speaker 1 I can't. I can't fight him.

Speaker 1 On the news,

Speaker 1 I'm talking about the other day.

Speaker 1 Damn, I wish I remembered the guy's name, but the news anchor, he used to do the football shit too, but he's on Fox News. On Fox Five.
On Fox Five. It's called Fox Five.

Speaker 1 And they were talking to Eric Adams.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was great.

Speaker 1 So you saw it, huh? Virally, yes. No, that shit was.

Speaker 1 It was great. Oh, it was great.
Did y'all watch the Z-Wave? The Spicy Back. Oh, I watched every mix of it.
That shit was great. Z-Wave Eric Adams was my CTV.
That was good.

Speaker 1 See, the people I want to be content creators, Eric Adams needs to be a content creator. Yeah.
See, he's funny without trying. He don't realize he's funny.
I don't know if... Y'all think that's funny.

Speaker 1 I don't know how he didn't realize the joke in that. Or maybe he did.
A couple times he did, a couple times he didn't. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sometimes he was like, I know you're fucking with me, but I don't know, I don't get it, but I know you're fucking with me. Yeah, but I'm gonna keep going.
He did that Mary Kill shit.

Speaker 1 I think he was a good sport about it. He was a good sport.
He was a good sport.

Speaker 1 He's like, You think I'm hitting on you?

Speaker 1 Eric Adams is funny. I'm interacting with you.

Speaker 1 Eric Adams is funny. Let me do the replay of all the shit he was saying that was his.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 That's that old nigga smooth. Yeah.
When I get out the shower with my six-pack ass.

Speaker 1 What? Who says that name? Stuck in your bag, ish. That old nigga smooth.

Speaker 1 This comes right up.

Speaker 1 I'm a popping bar on Saturday night. Pass me that water right, sweetheart.
Pass me that orange pill. Pass me that.

Speaker 1 Pass me that orange field right here. I'm sure I can do with it.

Speaker 1 You know what he gives the money? Do what he gives the money? Get yourself something too. That nigga like Popeye with it with the orange field.

Speaker 1 We love that nigga, son. You know, that outside of shit be dirty.
You don't give a fuck. Holy shit.
It's good for your system.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. You don't do sleepers?

Speaker 1 I want to honor one of our black grapes that we lost. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Lenny Wilkins. Oh, the great Lenny Wilkins.
Yeah, that's what I want. I don't want to get the sleepers.

Speaker 1 You ain't got one of your cool little fucking autobiographies ready now, huh? Oh, Lenny Wilkins is one of the greatest players of all time. Top 75? Yes, he was named to the top 75.

Speaker 1 Yeah, see, picture fake.

Speaker 1 He was named to the top NBA's greatest 50 and greatest 75 list.

Speaker 1 One of the greatest point guards of all time, drafted by the Seattle Supersonics, made his bones there before becoming an elite NBA coach for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Speaker 1 He's one of the, I think he's third all-time winningest coach in NBA history.

Speaker 1 And at one point. I did not know Lenny Wilkins was on the top six.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir. I know that.
He retired as one of probably the top eight point guards in NBA history.

Speaker 1 And then over time, obviously, we drafted more point guards, but he was an elite NBA point guard, an incredible playmaker, one of the greatest passers we've ever seen, I think.

Speaker 1 Winning his coach for a lot of y'all lives out there. For sure.
What he won

Speaker 1 in Atlanta, what he won in, I mean, he was a special coach and one special player.

Speaker 1 He's probably the best player. I'm trying to think of

Speaker 1 player in terms of being great on both ends.

Speaker 1 I mean, you can say Bill Russell, but like we're two, but in terms of longevity, there's nobody who's been that elite as a coach and that elite as a player in NBA history.

Speaker 1 Don't say great on both ends while doing this again. Yo, just don't do that.

Speaker 1 I'm uncomfortable. I thought during Immemorium, we

Speaker 1 would be mature. No, no.
But the greatest coach of all time. One of the greatest coaches of all time, right? Yeah, but Lenny Wilkins was a legend on both ends.

Speaker 1 I hear it.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I remember one of my favorite moments with Lenny Wilkins was, not personally, just watching him.

Speaker 1 I would have clotheslined Mark if Mark had a Lenny Wilkins story.

Speaker 1 He already got you. Your little jokey joke.
You got your little jokey joke. The nigga took the ball and hauled ass like Saquon.

Speaker 1 Like, since we joined this bitch, I remember my last time I was with Lenny. You know what I'm saying? We started on having a piece of salmon.

Speaker 1 I did know Lenny Wilkins. I have had conversations with Lenny Wilkins, but that wasn't the story I was about to tell.
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 What I appreciated was when

Speaker 1 LeBron's rookie year, when

Speaker 1 he was playing against, or Lenny Wilkins was coaching against LeBron, they asked him, they asked Lenny Wilkins, what's it like to

Speaker 1 coach against LeBron James? And he said, I'm one of the winningest coaches in NBA history. I'm a top 50 player of all time.
Perhaps you should ask him what it's like

Speaker 1 play against me. And he wasn't saying it with arrogance.
He was saying it like

Speaker 1 with arrogance. Fuck you talking about

Speaker 1 my name.

Speaker 1 I'm saying it a little more cockety. He said it, he was more saying it like put some respect for my name.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 Because people, some people don't even remember that he was a player, much less that he was one of the greatest of all time. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So there's a way that we don't give Lenny Wilkins the credit. We talk about the Phil Jacksons.

Speaker 1 We talk about all these people, but nobody has won as much as Lindy Wilkins in the type of situations that he was put in. That's the other thing to me with Lenny Wilkins.

Speaker 1 He wasn't given five superstars or three Hall of Famers or two all-stars and told win a championship. He made teams better and he was a great player.
He was a lot of his teams, that team, though.

Speaker 1 That Hawks team. That's his team.

Speaker 1 Kevin Willis. Steve Dominique.
He was stocking them. No.
Dominique. Steve Smith, right? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Steve Smith was there at one point, yeah.

Speaker 1 He had good players, but he didn't have. I'm just saying, when you look at the legends, the Larry Browns, the Phil Jacksons, the

Speaker 1 Pat Riley, Sports Pop. That's what I started thinking.

Speaker 1 I mean, they had some otherworldly generational talent sometimes, and Lenny Wilkins was able to make something out of nothing. So I just, I always respect him.

Speaker 1 The other thing is, he was a player's coach, and behind the scenes, he was always advocating for players to get money, for players to get better deals,

Speaker 1 for the league rules to change, for

Speaker 1 collective bargaining to change. Lenny Wilkins was that guy in front of the camera and behind the camera, and he was cooler than a motherfucker.
So shout out to Lenny Wilkins.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, Lenny Wilkins.

Speaker 1 Andrew a little joke. Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 Andrew a little joke about Burke's ability to obituate. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Obituate.

Speaker 1 Obituate.

Speaker 1 Off the cuff. Yeah, yeah.
Off the cuff. Smoked you.
That's cool, dog. Rest in peace on you, William.
Rest in peace, Lieutenant.

Speaker 1 Bitch, you wish you did sleepers now, huh?

Speaker 1 I don't know if we're doing sleepers. I've heard enough AI.

Speaker 1 Yo, they flooding my DMs with, yo, that's another AI slap.

Speaker 1 Then the funny shit,

Speaker 1 he played that. I came in here with that album.
I bought. I gave my whole spiel about how I feel about it.
And then I went in the car maybe the week, two weeks after that.

Speaker 1 And I looked at that shit that he played, and I said, I'm going to play it. I'm going to play it knowing what it is, understanding what it is, and just see.
They sent me a new one.

Speaker 1 It was still hard.

Speaker 1 It's fire. It was still hard.

Speaker 1 I almost added it to a playlist, but I didn't. I didn't.
Or just started with it. I ain't put no robots in my playlist.

Speaker 1 Send me that record-ish. No, that's still hard.
It's a new one. And if they'd have finished that guitar solo one, I'd have really got you.
I'd really let y'all know something. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, I don't have, just want to make sure I don't have anything else.

Speaker 1 Boy. Part of the show.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Summer, Steven, Travis, Alcast on Pepper.
Welcome home, XB.

Speaker 1 Gone, WWE, 50-year mortgage, Summer Wonker.

Speaker 1 Yep, yep. We got it.
That's all I got. That's all I got.
Look, y'all, we did it. Sounds good.
Let me look, see if we got a part of the show. See if anybody needs our help out there.

Speaker 1 Mark, how's that $100 tier doing over there? They're supporting. I got to say, shout out to the

Speaker 1 people who've done it. You know, it's been enough.

Speaker 1 You'll see soon.

Speaker 1 They'll find out January for you.

Speaker 1 I'm not putting a $100 tier out in this economy.

Speaker 1 I respect that. Especially.

Speaker 1 99.

Speaker 1 92,

Speaker 1 94, 99. Salute to everybody that's done the $100 tier.
And everybody's done the 40, 25, and 10 as well. Shout out to everybody who supports

Speaker 1 Patreon.

Speaker 1 Mark Lamont Hill Official. That's it.

Speaker 1 Motherfucker YN sends something every day, boy. God damn it.
Let me see if somebody else sends something.

Speaker 1 All right, fine. We'll go with YN.

Speaker 1 YN says, after y'all's combo with DJ Head, I'm wondering, would y'all be interested in Drake's version of 444 or Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers?

Speaker 1 At this point, I'm not sure that the stick to the slaps model is enough. There seems to be a reckoning of some sort that needs to happen.
In a dream world, who would Drake call for his 444 moment?

Speaker 1 What producers or features should he tap the shoulder of? What subjects should he address versus stay away from? I'd love to hear y'all use this as a fix this business segment like y'all did for Ty.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 there was a reason why we did it for Ty,

Speaker 1 and we look really foolish doing that for the billion-dollar boy. Right.
So I won't do a fix this business on him.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, for business, but yeah, but I mean, we could give some suggestions. I think that's a dope question.
It is a dope question. I think it's a great answer.

Speaker 1 I would 100% be interested in Drake's version of 444. Me too.
If he got with 40

Speaker 1 and Boy Wonder,

Speaker 1 I'd throw a vinyl's beat on there, but those were three.

Speaker 1 But vinyls could be in there. Yeah, Boy Wonders did.
Vinyls should be.

Speaker 1 And that's it. But 444

Speaker 1 was

Speaker 1 Hove going to therapy, coming out and letting us know about the findings and the conversations and how him and his wife worked through some shit.

Speaker 1 He was very transparent

Speaker 1 in ways that we weren't used to hearing.

Speaker 1 And if Drake found a way to do that, I think the world is interested.

Speaker 1 I think the world is much more interested than the kiddie slaps.

Speaker 1 Agreed that's just my opinion. I agree with that.
I think that would be dope, actually. Me too.

Speaker 1 You know how comedians do some bullshit and then they got to come back at their next stand-up with the serious stand-up and do the whole

Speaker 1 transparency so we can get past it shit. I think that would be fire.
You just have to, you just have to have the moment that makes the 444 possible, right? You have to live a certain thing.

Speaker 1 And if Drake's had that moment, I don't know Drake's life. If he's had that moment, then I'm ready for it.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's a

Speaker 1 like when I think of like, even like at other genres, like Marvin, you know, like Marvin Gay, like, I, I mean, everybody thinks about what's going on, but for me, Here, my dear, is a moment where of like transparency and honesty and vulnerability, but he had to go through that shit with his wife, right?

Speaker 1 So, whatever Drake goes through and gets clarity on, once he does that and he's rapping, I think it's gonna be maybe his best work. I can't, I can't wait to hear that from Drake.

Speaker 1 See, but some would say,

Speaker 1 some people would say that the year that was the battle

Speaker 1 should have been the event that caused it could have. We don't know.
Could be. That's true.

Speaker 1 I'm sure, bro, he sat in some rooms by himself and got his self-reflection bag on.

Speaker 1 How did I end up here? What did I do to get here?

Speaker 1 All of the things about him and other niggas' girls. All of the things about him being a certain type of person.
I'm sure he has had to sit with all of that. I think way, shape, or form.

Speaker 1 I think he's tried to do that. Like in music.
Like, even though what did I miss?

Speaker 1 I mean, he's still trying to, he's still chasing the slap because he's programmed to think I gotta have a slap, but I'm still

Speaker 1 like, oh, shit, this, the people that I was down with turned they backs on me and all of that. Like, I'm still, that's, that's some introspection right there.

Speaker 1 That's me trying to figure out what's going on. Real interesting real time.

Speaker 1 I agree with that, but I said some. I'm not saying he didn't, he didn't dig deep.
I agree with you. No,

Speaker 1 he could have dug deep and just not put it on wax. But I think that accountability is where your introspection really starts.
That's what I'm saying. A whole lot of people.

Speaker 1 Hope you can find yourself accountable. Because all the other shit, he just shooting at these niggas.
Right. Yo, I was your man.
I looked out for you. You piece of shit.
You turned your back on me.

Speaker 1 Like at some point, he has to, if he has not already, gotten into the

Speaker 1 me looking in the mirror shit.

Speaker 1 That's what made 444 so great. He talked about his shit where he went wrong.
Well, you got to

Speaker 1 accountability. You're in a room with people that don't feel like 444 was that great.

Speaker 1 I forgot. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm going to put that on my moon landing list.

Speaker 1 We're getting out of here, but I got my main man 100 grand on the side over there, man. Niggas start winning games.
They haircut gets sparked.

Speaker 1 That nigga looks like money. Strong man Zaya Franklin over money, boy.
Stop playing with that man. Y'all see your little dumbass dad? Look at him.

Speaker 1 Nah, he's having fun. That nigga out there getting buckets.
He having fun with that. That nigga is killing us.
You're getting some jokes when you come over here, but I just want to start with.

Speaker 1 Congrats.

Speaker 1 Jonathan Taylor. I drafted him second round.
I'm going crazy. I'm waiting.
Nigga slipped out. God, second round, bro.
Shit, I picked up Alec Pierce. Second round.
He going crazy.

Speaker 1 No, he pissing me off. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor saved my entire life.
I got Pittman.

Speaker 1 Nigga pissing me off. That nigga pissing me off.
Congrats to the Colts. Indeed.
Our boys out here couldn't be happier for him.

Speaker 1 And with that said,

Speaker 1 it's a good part, man.

Speaker 1 Good pod. Good time.

Speaker 1 Good times with some good people, man.

Speaker 1 You guys have been awesome out there listening. You guys are the most awesomest audience in the world.
That's true. I really appreciate y'all.
Couldn't do this without y'all. We do it for y'all.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 Please, please keep us in your prayers.

Speaker 1 Please do.

Speaker 1 Lord knows we need to be there.

Speaker 1 That we do.

Speaker 1 Until the next time, we bid you a due farewell, adio, cereba dirci hasta la vista

Speaker 1 au revoir so long goodbye a simple head nod will suffice with love

Speaker 1 remember life is a series of moments and moments pass

Speaker 1 moments do indeed pass

Speaker 1 preach

Speaker 1 but we're gonna make this one last as if it's all we have

Speaker 1 and lastly uh-oh

Speaker 1 But if you don't just let

Speaker 1 me know

Speaker 1 This was that shit. This might even be my mom's favorite song.
I think

Speaker 1 a lot of people. I think this my mom's favorite song of all time.
Well after purple rain

Speaker 1 One of them anyway.

Speaker 1 Um

Speaker 1 lastly the baddies are insecure the stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.

Speaker 1 Grab you a Tylenol.

Speaker 1 You might need it.

Speaker 1 We really appreciate y'all listening, man. Y'all hold it down this week.

Speaker 1 On a sillier podcast, I'll break down what those lyrics could have meant.

Speaker 1 Because it just hit me with

Speaker 1 early on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I didn't know that George might be back in the day. Yeah.
So now,

Speaker 1 like, why are you even singing to your teacher? Actually,

Speaker 1 you know what's going on?

Speaker 1 God damn it.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Teacher was Camilla Steve and Singer.

Speaker 1 I forgot to say we came up before you go. I forgot.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 Yo, I mean. Yo, I be forgetting the dark room I'm in.
This room's humor is

Speaker 1 dark, dark, boy.

Speaker 1 If you have a teacher that's doing that, make sure to tell the principal, all your parents, when you get home, man. Tell the principal.
Tell a principal. Tell your daddy with the biggest gun out.

Speaker 1 Nigga, the fuck you talking about. Assuming they have a dad.
Yeah. Assuming they have a dad.

Speaker 1 We love y'all. That's a great way to not have a dad.
Dad's flow. Tell your dad to come up here and kill kill the teacher.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. What y'all doing this week? Come on, you asked that.
What y'all doing this week? Anything funny? Anything funny? Anything funny? You don't do nothing funny, nigga.

Speaker 1 Please, nothing. All right, fuck it.

Speaker 1 Hey, I never wanna dance again.

Speaker 1 Guilty feet have got no rhythm.

Speaker 1 It's easy to pretend.

Speaker 1 You know I'm not a fool.

Speaker 1 Should've known better than a cheese.

Speaker 1 do.

Speaker 1 Y'all and Dad will be back this week.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's listening to shit like three in the morning on the way to Wawa.

Speaker 1 This nigga just looking like a bitch.

Speaker 1 Look at the mirror.

Speaker 1 Who wins a versus Cindy Law or George Michael? George Michael.

Speaker 1 George Michael, man.

Speaker 1 George Michael, Michael, not Wham.

Speaker 1 George Michael. Still George Michael.
Still George Michael. George Michael was wham.
Yeah. That part.
That was George Michael in his boot. If you're not counting,

Speaker 1 George Michael was.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can't just jump his eye. No.

Speaker 1 He got slaps in Aretha Franklin.

Speaker 1 That faith. That faith.
What, Joe? Oh, too often. Yeah, never mind.

Speaker 1 Would it be nice?

Speaker 1 Yo, how do you know that?

Speaker 1 I know Mop Deep. Yes.
Like, I do know Mop Deep, nigga. This nigga is an anomaly, me.

Speaker 1 Cindy better sit down. Yeah, please.
Cindy better sit down.

Speaker 1 Cindy can't get a situation.

Speaker 1 Yo, she can't get one point.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yo, come on.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 a body like

Speaker 1 twice.

Speaker 1 I change my heart away. Nah, this is great.

Speaker 1 Yo, Jordan, Michael, I'm sorry for being disgraced.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Freeze.

Speaker 1 You don't know the record?

Speaker 1 Wait, what? Wait, wait, what?

Speaker 1 You don't know the song?

Speaker 1 Not doing this shit with y'all today. No, sure.

Speaker 1 Freeze. Salute.
Freeze,

Speaker 1 They laughing. I ain't trying.
I ain't laughing. No, this is serious.
Freeze heard this song before. Yes, I laughed.
Freeze, niggas are slapping.

Speaker 1 Niggas are flaming freeze.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 No, I just don't.

Speaker 1 Remember when Andy and Acapella was camping? He was singing. He dressed up as George Michael and they were singing this when the acapella crew came.

Speaker 1 200 episodes. That nigga.

Speaker 1 All right, but now that you're here, what do you think? Do we sound good?

Speaker 1 This was summer rain before summer rain, nigga.

Speaker 1 Cause I gotta have things

Speaker 1 in the jeans and the boots and the stubble.

Speaker 1 You a doctor, that was your bad. We doing a doctor, get fucked up now, Freeze.
You don't like the song with a guy in stubborn.

Speaker 1 You fuck it up. You know what to say,

Speaker 1 just fuck it up. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Let's stop so you don't go. I'm sorry, George Michael.

Speaker 1 I was just trying to make podcasts.

Speaker 1 You're gonna get to it.

Speaker 1 Hot take?

Speaker 1 Hot take. The wham Christmas song is better than Mariah Carey Christmas song.

Speaker 1 I don't know their wham Christmas song. Lil Baby made a Christmas song? I don't know the Wham.

Speaker 1 What's the Wham Christmas song? What?

Speaker 1 Freeze, you mute up.

Speaker 1 I'm not going about it. The very next day,

Speaker 1 take it away.

Speaker 1 Oh, hey! Hello!

Speaker 1 Duh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no. Yes, this song is better than the Mariah Christmas song.
What Mariah?

Speaker 1 And this is why Cindy Lofton wouldn't get on that stage.

Speaker 1 Cat. What Mariah are you talking about? You better play with something safe.

Speaker 1 Come on, man. Crazy, Freeze.
I just never knew this as a Christmas song.

Speaker 1 That's the first bar.

Speaker 1 I know, I just never saw

Speaker 1 it this year. This nigga's crazy.

Speaker 1 Watch your mouth, Breeze. Better, nigga.

Speaker 1 It's better. Acknowledge it now.

Speaker 1 It's might be better than what Mariah the Scientist did.

Speaker 1 That's the only one. It ain't not Carrie.
That's crazy. Definitely not talking about Carrie.
That's a better song than that Mariah Carey Christmas song. Got it.
It is. Mariah Carrie got it.

Speaker 1 It's my cowboy thing. All right, so you sing the Mariah Christian.
I'm not singing anything. How it goes? How it goes? I'm not singing anything.
How it go then, tough ass. I know how it goes.

Speaker 1 I'm not singing. I'm singing alive

Speaker 1 Christmas

Speaker 1 go home and listen to Ilmanica shut up

Speaker 1 I do listen to Lil Baby I told you

Speaker 1 what you did last night

Speaker 1 I run

Speaker 1 a shit

Speaker 1 Miami wake me up before you go

Speaker 1 I'll smack the shit out of you.

Speaker 1 Alright, now it's up for you.

Speaker 1 Remember, look at the jump for you.

Speaker 1 When it was in the in the

Speaker 1 at the gas station with

Speaker 1 the body, watch your fucking mouth to nigga. Yo, you so anti-white body.

Speaker 1 Am I anti-white? Anti-black, you're anti-Oreal. Anti-white and black.

Speaker 1 God damn.

Speaker 1 You've never heard of Joe Bunny

Speaker 1 or Wham

Speaker 1 Well fold that up right now. Don't look away now.