#2351 - James McCann

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Hey, thank you for having me here.

My pleasure.

It's a joy.

It's a joy to have you, sir.

I've been having a good time hanging out with you at the club, so.

It's been great.

It's like we got it.

This is very...

Ah, man, I'm trying not to spin out.

I have watched this on a phone before.

This is great.

Well, it's weird for me that it's weird for people because to me, it's still the same thing.

It's just sitting down and talking to people.

I've gotten so used to it, even when it's like Trump or Elon or some fucking huge cultural figure.

It's still

spun out at least one time.

I spun out a bunch of times in the early days.

I still spin out every now and then.

You know, like Mel Gibson's on the podcast.

Like, oh, that's really Mel Gibson.

Mike Tyson, that's another one.

Yeah, he was.

Was this where he said he became erect when he wanted to beat people up?

That was in California.

Okay.

Yeah.

That was a classic.

It's a classic, all-time great moment.

He was scaring the shit out of me.

Man, I spin out.

When I first got to the club, I was going, it was every week.

I would.

It's weird, right?

But when I first met Adam Eagert, I went,

no, it's oh, Mr.

Egot.

I've seen you.

You deny the Holocaust.

Not really, we should be real clear.

No, he was just a Norm McDonald.

He's just under a bridge.

He's a Norm McDonald bit.

He features in that book a lot.

Well, Adam's an amazing guy.

Yeah.

He's the reason, he's one of the reasons why I went back to the store.

When I was banned from the store for seven years, Adam came to...

Seven years?

Yeah.

Well, I banned myself for seven years.

They banned me.

They were going to ban me for like a few weeks.

I'm like, fuck you.

Like, nay.

What did you do?

This is the whole Carlos Mencia thing.

They banned you for that?

Yes.

You won the court of public opinion on that.

Well, not only did I not really get banned, the guy who banned me was eventually fired.

He was the manager there.

But Mitzi gave me a spot that night.

It's like before they called me to tell me I was banned.

Mitzi was going through a lot of health problems, right?

And, you know, Mitzi was...

I was very close with her.

So I called her when the whole Mencia thing happened and I said, listen, this guy's been a problem.

It's a real issue.

People are worried about doing materially in front of him.

This is a giant problem.

And, you know, I told her the whole thing with the video.

She's like, all right, well, just keep away from him.

What time do you want to go up tonight?

And I said, when do you want me to go up?

And she said, how about 10.30 or whatever it was?

And I said, thank you.

Okay, I love you.

Bye.

We said, bye.

And then like fucking an hour, two hours later, I get a call from this manager telling me that I'm banned from the store for two weeks.

And I was like, what?

I go, for two weeks.

I go, listen to me right now.

I'm not coming back.

I go, I'm not coming back.

And you're making a decision that's going to fuck this club up because you're choosing to take the side of plagiarism

over someone who's exposing it.

Like, the agents won't expose it.

They're making a shit ton of money.

And if the comedy store is not going to side with the artists, I'm like, listen, this is the same conversation I had with my agent.

I lost my agent, too, for that.

I feel like those are both important moments in it.

Everybody seems to have a problem with their agent via them, but also the number of people who've been banned from comedy clubs.

Brian Simpson has told me about how he got banned for ages when he was homeless.

People were all doing banned comedy clubs, too.

But he was

some sort of an issue with someone there.

And this was like when Brian wasn't Brian Simpson from Netflix.

know it's like Brian Simpson up-and-coming door guy that people go oh that guy's funny but like if you get a run afoul with certain this is what I'm trying to avoid I did this in Australia a lot you ran afoul I was a problem and

I couldn't work in certain cities for some time just because I was I think unpleasant what were you doing wrong

you know I started comedy I would go around telling people that they sucked and they should quit and I went to like the head of the Melbourne Comedy Festival I was in I was in the comedy competition it was like my fourth gig.

And I was like, you're picking all the wrong people to win.

These guys are better.

And it just...

Anyway,

we grow older.

I was also 18, and I was.

Yeah.

Oh, I get it.

Very.

No, it's.

Yeah, a lot of feuds.

A lot of telling people that they sucked.

Well, when you enter into comedy, you know, a lot of times people treat it weirdly like sports.

You know, like they talk shit playing basketball, so they try to talk shit doing comedy.

And it's like,

it's weird.

I've gotten better at it.

I think I've purged it, but sometimes.

Well, it depends on the environment you're in.

If you're in an environment where a lot of people are doing that, it's not fun.

But this is, I find it easier here because people are,

I don't want to say that everyone in Australia is bad at comedy.

There are many great comics, but I could not, for the life of me.

Like, there were times where it's like, oh, this could be helpful for your career to get in with someone and have them guide you.

And it's like, I just hated everybody's comedy that I met and hung out with.

And people who were great would often leave or not be around.

Australia's kind of a different.

You've got great people out there.

Lo, listen, you got Jim Jeffries.

Yes.

I think you're the funniest guy that's ever come out of Australia.

I believe that.

No, we have Barry Humphries.

I'll never be better.

Okay.

You know Barry Humphries?

No.

The first

drag act.

I think we watched a clip once in the green room, but you know, the problem is the green room is so loud.

Yeah, I'll watch it.

Barry Humphreys was the man.

He would dress up like a Day Medna.

This is in the 70s.

He's a conservative man.

He would dress up like a housewife, like a very dowdy drag act.

And it was like super funny really broke through in the uk and then the festival turned their back on him he started the melbourne comedy festival and then he made some like trans remark and hannah gadsby i think was like i'm not taking this award in his name okay you changed the award funniest australian i reach out to hannah as well you forget about hannah hannah was a great club act i tell this to people all the time no one in a no one wants to believe it well listen man it's just she did a different thing a lot of people got mad at that but i don't get mad at things that are not for me.

It's not, it's pointless.

I think it took me a while.

It seems like a revolutionary act for Americans because you don't have comedy festivals in the same way here.

But like

everyone in Australia was doing the I Got Raped show or the I Wanted to Commit Suicide show.

Oh, really?

Yeah,

everyone does an hour.

That's the only way you can.

There's only five cities.

So the comedy festivals are the only way you can really break through and make money.

There's five clubs, and once you're done touring them, you've got nothing.

So you have to have a new hour every year.

There was the...

Oh man, there have been some great I Was Molested shows shout out Corey White for one of the greatest I Was Molested shows ever

who Dave Quirk had the I Had an Affair show that was great Dad's Got Cancer big show

big show mum died when I was young

sort of like more like a spoken word thing than you would say stand-up comedy

you just

no one's even people do all the jokes they wrote that year which gets you to like 35 minutes then you tell a 10 minute very sad story but

and then

and then I finished my chicken curry and i thought i'm ready to die and then uh then you bring it back with a gag at the end and yeah and that was like standard yeah it's still going on to this day there's a lot of

and i could never do it yeah you're i don't i couldn't imagine you doing that you're so like funny heavy like you're your comedy is very funny heavy you know it feels important for comedy it's the fucking most important thing it's fun to get interesting ideas out there it really is it's fun to talk about interesting subjects, but it's got to be funny.

I mean, when people have a theme,

Colin Quinn does this all the time, and it's great.

He does like that.

Oh, yeah.

Don't you therapy show, Red State, Blue State thing, History of America in New York is great.

He's a genius at it.

He's probably the best at it about

telling interesting subject matter, using interesting subject matter, telling you things you didn't know with comedy.

Yeah.

And highlighting the ridiculousness of it all.

He was at the club, and that was was that was crazy.

He's great.

He's just a crazy thing.

Usually, like you've time is dragging on when people are on stage and you check how long it's gone, even if it's great and you go, I thought we were at the 20-minute mark.

It's been six minutes or something.

Time just disappears for him.

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Really blew me away is Jimmy Carr.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

He was so on when he was here.

He was doing new stuff.

I started running the new with the pages.

Yeah, with the pages.

But the polish, like while he was doing the new stuff, he's so good off the cuff that even if the new stuff was going sideways, people love him.

He figured out a way to turn it around

and would address it.

Oh, he was so good.

He just sits and writes, apparently.

He's an animal.

He teaches it, too.

He teaches that he has a program that they actually ran at the mothership for up-and-coming comedy.

Did you teach it?

I'm always wary of that.

I don't think you could teach comedy necessarily, but I think you could teach, you could learn how he does it, and you can learn how certain people do it.

And I think some of that you can apply.

The Mitchell Berg School of Comedy, you've got to take a lot of heroin.

Yeah.

And put your hair right over your face.

I think you can, what you can do, though, is teach work ethic.

Yeah.

And I think that's half the battle.

Half the battle is just sitting down and actually writing.

And everyone comes up with an excuse.

It's like a cold plunge.

Everybody comes up with an excuse why they don't want a cold plunge.

And everybody comes up with an excuse why they don't write in front of a computer or on a piece of paper.

They always write only on stage.

I mean, doing the same thing over and over again was I, for, I don't know, seven, eight years at the start, I struggled to do it.

I had no,

I had like five bad hours of comedy.

And it wasn't until I probably impregnated my wife that was like, I should.

I should make sure there's a good five.

I should really boil this down to a good five minutes or I'm in real trouble.

Well, sometimes it's something like that has to happen in your life where you really take it seriously.

Because we all know comics that like we started with, we're like, oh my God, this guy's going to be huge.

Yeah.

And for whatever reason, they didn't put in the work.

They fucked off.

They self-sabotaged.

Every town you go to, there's the guy who's going to be big.

I think if we can encourage more people, we can make less of that.

And I think we can give more people a chance.

Because I think we all could have been that person who quit.

Yeah.

And I know in the beginning I thought about quit a bunch of times.

One of the things that helped me not quit is I tore my ACL.

Okay.

So I couldn't train or compete anymore.

Yeah.

Because I was still like kind of on the fence of whether I'd go back to fighting.

Because I was terrible at comedy.

I was like good every now and again.

The ACL took that away from you.

One option now.

I was like, okay.

I can't fight anymore.

I need to get surgery.

I got to take this seriously.

And I got to really pick one thing.

And I completely stopped competing.

So that was like a year into comedy.

So that was an important thing.

Like, I needed a thing where I was like, okay, I've got no options now.

Like, I can't just enter into a kickboxing tournament and say, fuck comedy.

This is too hard.

Yeah.

And it's just...

It was a weird thing.

It was like I had to make a complete mind shift from someone who didn't care at all about other people's opinions,

someone who was like, I will show you.

I will show you.

Like, I don't give a fuck what you think.

I will show you yeah to I have to get you to like me yeah I have to be fun not just funny with my friends but I have to figure out how to make these people my friends where I was always very standoffish with new people it was a weird thing to try to adjust a comedy well also if you can't make it work you have to stop at some point oh you have to

if you can't make it work but I did make it work sometimes I just had to figure out what what was consistent when I was making it work

that's a real yeah I don't know how I mean so few people get passed at a club.

I know, it's hard.

Because you have to come back and do it a couple times and be seen to be.

But I see people have a great, like a one-off, great one, and then you go, where did that go?

Oh, dude, there's a girl that I saw once in 1990.

No, 1995 or 6.

That's what it was.

1995 or 6.

She did a set in the belly room.

And it was one of the funniest sets I've ever seen in my life.

It was like I was watching a female Sam Kennison.

I was like, this girl is on fire.

Like, this is insane.

And then never happened.

I don't know what happened.

You know, I don't know.

People just never really get it together.

Whatever the fuck they pulled off that time, they can't do again.

Lightning in a bottle.

But it was in there.

Like, it's in there.

That comedy was in there.

I was like, if this person with the right encouragement could have been fucking huge, man.

Yeah.

I remember I saw my friend Amos on that day.

His girlfriend broke up with him and he went and did it was meant he was booked for 10 he did like 25

and he was just heartbroken he was just complaining about being devastated and it was all the things that were wrong with his comedy beforehand were like gone he was used to be like unpleasant in people's face and then he was like free and likable and good it's like oh you you can't engineer to be broken up with

every show you can't you can't engineer that right you shouldn't well that was kinison in the early days right curly kinison in the early days was all about

meeting the devil, and the devil's like, oh, you've been married?

Yeah.

This is all fucking nudie.

You know, this is all old hat to you.

Oh, this is where we're torture the souls.

I never had it.

Oh, you were married twice?

Like, remember that bit?

Kinnison, the first time I realized that he was a big thing was when that poster went up backstage at the mothership.

Oh, really?

Yeah, we didn't get him.

Wow.

We didn't get him.

We didn't get...

I mean, maybe some people got them.

We got Ron White because he was on Comedy Central.

So I had seen his special like a bunch of times.

But that's crazy.

But in terms of American comedy, I didn't get Kinnison.

I didn't get...

We got Chappelle because we got Chappelle shot.

He must have got Hicks.

People around me had Hicks, but I was late to Hicks because the men who loved Hicks were

nuts.

Right.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, you go, there's something good here, but I'm going to have to come back to it.

Well, he was so good and so unique.

in the kind of comedy that he did and so smart that it made a bunch of guys try to be like him.

Yes.

Yeah.

There's many such cases.

Yeah.

Guys who are great, but they destroy.

Dude.

There's a lot of little Casey Rockets running around that think they don't have to write anything.

One of the all-time greats.

I mean, if you...

One of the all-time greats is Richard Jenny.

I mean, he's an all-time great.

And when I saw him in like the 1980s, he did a club.

I guess that was probably 90, 91 maybe?

Eastside Comedy Club.

He did four different hours.

And the MC wanted to quit comedy after he MC'd for him the weekend.

He said, he did four different hours, a different hour on Friday night, first show, different hour, second show, different hour, first show, Saturday night, different hour.

All of them murdered.

And he said, it was insane.

And he goes, I wanted to quit comedy.

He saw Hicks, and he said to me, like, we were hanging out together.

He's like, God, I got to, I wish I

makes me want to do more of that.

You know, I feel like sometimes I'm not doing enough of that.

I was like, wow, that's crazy.

Do you know Ken Dodd?

Do you know that he was a Liverpudlian comedian, I think?

But he would come out and he would do his new hour, and people would like clap and say thank you.

And then he would say, Right, I'm going to do the hour I did last time I was in town.

You can leave if you want, but I'll do.

And the second hour is the hour he did the year before.

And then he'd do the hour that he did the year before that.

And he'd just do hour after hour until the whole, until, like, if people had enough, they could get up and walk away.

Wow.

But he'd be there for like seven hours.

Jesus Christ.

You know, he used to do that.

People of bar staff hated it.

Chappelle used to do that he used to pull up to the laugh factory and do like a nine hour set yeah

he's still doing it i think him and dane cook had like a battle to see like who who could do the longest set i mean i saw i got to go to i don't think dave was like trying to battle but i think dade like took the title shane took me to his the the ys firehouse the club that dave has set up in uh

Yellow Springs.

Yeah, it was on his birthday and he did three hours and he bombed at his own birthday.

And he kept saying, I can't believe I'm bombing at my own club on my birthday.

But then in the middle, there was a guy with a coat and he just did maybe 45 minutes about this guy's coat of crowd work on his, just a, it was magical.

The whole thing flew.

He could release an hour on this guy's coat.

I think he's recording everything there.

He's building a vault, I think.

I think he's got a Prince vault.

A Prince vault?

Yeah, like how Prince, I think every second album, Prince would just put it away.

And I think he's got, he must have hours in the vault.

Yeah, he's got a whole system for how he creates comedy.

It's very unique.

He goes on stage and he has some subjects and he just fucks around and he gets a little drunk,

gets a little high, and he's so funny that some of those things will wind up being bits.

Yes.

And then he takes those bits and then he has all of them recorded.

So he's just constantly stocking.

And he goes on stage almost every night.

There's nothing in my vault.

Everything

I've gotten, I've got like...

Every time I go out there, I go, I've got nothing.

Isn't that a great example?

Like, not everybody has the option to just go on stage and rant for three hours.

Yeah.

But isn't it educational to any young comics that says, okay, well, who do people consider to be the greatest comic alive?

Most people would say Dave Chappelle.

And Dave Chappelle is working harder than anybody.

Yes.

It's not a coincidence.

Like, he's effortlessly funny.

Yes, for sure.

Brilliant.

Yes, for sure.

But also works every night.

Like, there's something to that.

And works every night and does long sets.

yeah like every night like he's always he's always there

he's always getting better he's always covering new subjects before i came to america i would do like i would do an hour a month and be very happy with that and i thought this was enough to get me where i needed to go and uh no going every night is it's also hard to go every night like you don't you have a good time once you're out yeah

you gotta avoid the comedy you gotta avoid that feeling right so it's a it's a mental collapse it's you know familiarity breeds contempt it's not just in relationships it's in anything you do yeah and that's where you have to reset your mind right so like when you start to feel that coming on like i can't believe i have to do another set fuck i don't want to do a second show you have to remember what it was like when you had nothing And you have to remember what it was like when you would go to open mic night and just you wouldn't on the weren't on the list.

You didn't make the list.

But you just wanted to go on stage so bad.

You wanted to go on stage so bad and you wanted to you're like i gotta figure this thing out you gotta have your johnny cash moments in backstage at the folson prison yeah and down at the water thinking about your brother you are about to go do a second sold out show no it's silly you should be so pumped it's just a familiarity thing it's just a mind fuck but you can get over mind fucks man you can get over them if you understand what they are and just recalibrate the way you engage with it and figuring out a way to recalibrate that doesn't kill you in the long run is a good

like I know some people

get like fucked up or just play a video game all week and then they can get back and do it.

You don't have to though.

You don't have to do those things.

I think you've got to do something.

You've got to go for a nice walk.

Yeah.

I started swimming.

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telling me that.

Yeah.

I'm all about, I've got nothing.

I go on stage and I try and talk about how much I love the pool.

I got nothing.

You might feel like that.

I'm going to make three sets where I stand there and go, isn't swimming beautiful?

You'll figure it out.

Then I say nothing and I wait for something to happen after that.

And I go and talk about the next thing.

Well, it's, you know, one of those exercises that because you're moving against the resistance of the water, it doesn't damage your joints.

Yeah.

And it's like, it feels like therapeutic, even though it feels like exercise.

You can get yourself tired if you want.

You can slow it down.

Oh, yeah.

You can.

Yeah, and it's fun.

I swim with my dog.

In a lake?

No, in a pool.

Me and the dog swim in the pool.

He's the funniest.

He's such a great dog.

I did find your dog Instagram account.

Are you running the dog Instagram account?

I'm not my wife friends.

Okay.

But

he's so great that he won't swim unless you're swimming.

Like he knows he's not supposed to just randomly jump in the pool because then he comes in the house, fucks everything up.

So he only is allowed to swim when we tell him to swim.

And so he sits there like, are we fucking swimming today?

Yeah.

And then when he finds out we're swimming, we're like, oh, shit, we're swimming.

And he just jumps off the fucking side of the pool.

Is it chlorinated pool?

Is it salt pool?

Salt pool.

Yeah.

I think it's salt pool.

If it's not, it's supposed to be.

I can float in that.

I cannot float in the chlorine pool, and that brings me great.

Why not?

My legs sink down.

Oh.

I have no bum.

Have you ever done a float tank?

Never.

Oh, my God.

I'm afraid of what would be in my brain.

You need to find out.

No.

Go dig around.

Go dig around that.

Repression is so beautiful.

Just dig around, dog.

I've been there for five minutes of your banana.

Just push it down and get back to work at the factory.

It really does.

I'm a big believer in push it down and keep moving.

Hey, there's something to be said.

I mean, you explode at some point.

Well, the opposite is not good, right?

If you're constantly dwelling on your problems all the time.

That's worse.

Someone was.

I got circumcised at like 32 because I had a Jesus Christ's name But it was a beautiful experience.

I enjoyed it.

I had a nice time Did you get a rabbi to suck your dick?

I thought about it.

I thought I could leave that in as an option, but also it's fine.

By the way, for people differently, I'm not making a joke.

They do suck the sometimes they have a tube.

Sometimes they have a special tube.

Yeah, and sometimes they don't.

No, sometimes they just get the Holy Ghost.

Giving kids herpes and babies.

Children do diet.

They died from it.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's grim.

But circumcision in general, I'm in favor.

Why?

Because I know what it was like before.

I know it was like after.

It's not a big deal.

But there are people, what I'm saying, people make it their whole one of one.

Yeah, I've experienced both as an adult.

People go.

I think most people would not want their dick to be cut for no real reason other than aesthetics.

And people are like, oh, it prevents AIDS.

Like, shut the fuck up.

I got to go to the AIDS Memorial Garden in San Francisco.

Yeah, did you show them your new dick?

Well, people definitely would.

It's a lot of nooks and crannies in the AIDS Memorial Garden.

Like, they've built the perfect place to have sex with a man in the AIDS Mars.

It's perfect.

Someone's definitely gotten AIDS at the AIDS Memorial Garden.

You think so?

They're fucking away in the garden.

I knew there was something I was supposed to remember.

Now I have AIDS.

It was very good.

It was a beautiful park.

San Francisco was

lovely.

Have you ever listened to people like, what is that guy's name?

The guy that we had on the podcast a long time ago, Peter Duisberg.

No.

If you want to go down the ultimate rabbit hole.

Oh, what's he doing?

Is he in a park?

No.

Peter Duisberg doesn't believe that HIV causes AIDS.

I've heard about this.

It's the treatment.

Peter Duisberg is,

he's a

professor of biology, University of California, Berkeley,

tenured.

And he's done groundbreaking work on cancer.

He's considered to be a brilliant guy.

Considered to be a brilliant guy.

So in the 80s, when all this was going on with AIDS, his assertion was that there was a thing that people were not factoring in, is that almost all of the people who developed developed AIDS were hardcore partiers, hardcore drug users in the gay community.

And no one wanted to address that.

And he was saying, no, this is destroying their immune system.

And then HIV shows up.

He goes, HIV is a weak virus.

He goes, in most people, and when I read what he said, and I don't know if this is true, maybe we could find out, that babies, if they're born, they test positive for HIV without any treatment at all, are HIV negative within a certain amount of time.

Okay.

And so it all sounds nuts, right?

Because you go.

There's no martial evidence for that.

Because like African countries, you would go, healthcare would be bad, malnutrition would be.

Well, this is the thing.

Are they really testing for HIV when they say these people have AIDS?

And is there other possible factors that could cause this immune thing?

And if you're dealing with, like, it's all coming out of this gay community where there are a lot of partying.

There's a lot of drug use and a lot of wild fucking.

And these guys are burning it at both ends.

And when you do that, sometimes sometimes you fucking die.

Sometimes your immune system gets crashed.

Now, clearly, I'm not fucking smart enough to know if he's right or if everyone else in the world is right.

Because it's literally that, right?

It's like he has a few, though.

Well, there's a bunch of people that agree with him and silently agree with him.

There's a bunch of people.

It's actually covered in RFK Jr.'s book on Fauci because it has to do with Fauci.

But Fauci was in charge then.

Yes.

Yes, he was the one that was giving people AZT, right?

So AZT was a cancer medication that was killing people quicker than cancer was.

It was a chemotherapy.

And not only is it a chemotherapy, this is the only time during the AIDS crisis where a chemotherapy was prescribed permanently.

Because chemotherapy,

the agreement is like, I'm going to take this poison that's going to destroy my body, but it's going to kill the cancer.

And then when the cancer is dead, I'm going to get healthy again, right?

Yeah, no one gets focused on chemotherapy.

You don't stay on it.

No one's getting an extra appreciation.

And it's a super strong one.

And, you know, there was a lot of people that took AZT when they were asymptomatic.

Like, they didn't even have any of the symptoms.

They just tested positive for HIV.

And this is back when Kerry Mullis, the guy who invented the PCR test, he's like famously on record saying, like, this is no way to test for diseases.

And Fauci doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

And it's the same guy that was in charge during the whole COVID thing.

And you're like, that is the craziest conspiracy that HIV doesn't cause AIDS.

But what he's saying is HIV

is present in people with already compromised immune systems and that this unique factor that they're all hardcore drug users was never taken into consideration.

Well, I mean, certainly with COVID, they didn't take it into account.

Well, they fed people and weak people.

The thing is, you've got to look at it from a profitability standpoint.

And I know this is super cynical and sounds disgusting.

But if you have a actual disease that you can prescribe medication for, that's valuable.

Yes.

If you have a bunch of people that are doing something that's super healthy that's killing them and you don't have a solution, that's not valuable.

Well, they figured it out with fat people.

They got the Ozempic.

I mean, people are just on the Ozempic forever.

Bro, do you know Ozempic is like the number one most profitable medication in the country?

I mean, I believe it, but.

Is that true?

Did I make that up?

I think that's true.

They're all doing it.

Sometimes I see things on TikTok and I was like, is this China fancy?

Also, some of them look great.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I know people on Ozempic who are

spriling, they're bouncing around.

They're not doing it.

No.

Never.

Nope.

Nope.

No way.

I'm a comfortable level of fat.

In America, no one has ever called me fat.

No.

In Australia, this body, all the time.

Really?

Yeah.

They're all fucking healthy over there.

You guys got to hike everywhere.

I think the food is better.

For sure.

I think I've...

For sure.

I became lactose intolerant when I came to America.

Because I had raw milk and then I vomited green bile for a couple of days.

You ate raw milk here?

I had like a gallon of raw milk in a day.

So raw milk, not pasteurized, not hot.

I got it from the farmer's market.

The guy looked really strong and healthy.

I was like, I want that cool right-wing milk.

It gave you lactose intolerance?

I don't know.

I like the milk so much, I like to believe it wasn't that.

But it was

dressed

too much of it.

I think I got some sort of weird bacteria, but I was, yeah.

Oh, green bile, both ends.

Really?

Yes.

Right now, you're destroying the raw milk industry.

I'm still handed it.

It also, it was the most beautiful milk I've ever had.

I don't want to be negative about raw milk.

If you can have it and it doesn't do that to you, whoo.

Have you had the raw milk?

I have.

It's like drinking a secret.

I think raw milk should be like raw meat.

Leave me alone.

Leave me alone.

I know how to cook a steak, right?

You don't tell me how to cook a steak.

You let me buy raw milk.

Let me buy it.

Yeah.

If you let me buy raw meat, let me buy raw milk.

Shut the fuck up.

Now, are you saying that it's killing people?

Okay, where's your evidence?

And is pasteurization and homogenization, which does make it more shelf-stable and make it so that you could, you know, you can keep it in the refrigerator for a long time and it's still fine.

You know, it has an expired by date.

Yes.

Raw milk goes bad quick.

So should you drink the bad raw milk?

No, definitely not.

But is there anything

that's super beneficial about drinking the raw milk?

Well, there seems to be a lot of evidence as long as it doesn't have bacteria in it.

Okay, well, how do you prevent that?

Well, I feel like we can do that.

See, I don't think the solution is.

This doesn't feel especially well regulated at the moment.

That's the problem.

I bought it from a guy's muddy van.

Oh, yeah.

And then as I was vomiting and shitting, I was like, this doesn't feel natural.

You've got to get it from a reputable farmer.

But

you get it from a reputable farm.

They exist.

There's like a whole website

where you can find raw milk because people are raw milk nuts, which is also what turns me off to raw milk.

The raw milk.

For about six hours, I thought I had the greatest insight anybody had ever had.

This is the special milk we should all be having.

Until it started blowing out your body.

Maybe you just drank too much.

I did.

Everyone else in the family was fine.

My wife, my kids,

they had a little bit.

Yeah, you probably drank too much.

I mean, if you drink too much of anything, you'll get diarrhea.

And think about how much you're dealing with how much milk fat and

how much liquid.

You can get diarrhea just from that.

Overdosed on the milk.

Yeah, that's, I wouldn't have had a lot of milk.

I never had a milk problem before then, on the pasteurized milk.

So now you have a milk problem?

How so?

I shit every time.

Every time?

Oh, a big, heavy, weird.

So it gave you lactose intolerance?

It happened.

I like the milk so much, I don't want to blame the milk, but I will say it happened at the same time.

Okay, so is

but from then on, are you getting lactose intolerant every time you drink raw milk or regular milk?

Regular milk.

Maybe my body got used to the beautiful raw milk and it would only have

downloaded me.

I'm going to have a hard time selling that to the wife.

We're getting the raw milk back in the house.

Yeah, that might be it, dude.

I know that sounds crazy, but that might be it.

Like, your body might prefer real milk, and now that it knows what real milk, yeah, it's like, fuck you with this boiled milk.

It was happening with the bread, but I think this happened.

I mean, something's happening with the bread in America.

It's like

your hands feel swollen.

I don't personally have any problem with homogenized and pasteurized milk.

Like, when I drink it, it doesn't make me feel bad.

I don't feel great, but I will do it if I have, like, cookies and milk.

Oh, cookies and milk.

Yeah, but I don't think that you should be able to tell people that they can't sell raw milk.

I think you should tell people if you're going to sell raw milk, it has to meet some certain standards.

Sure.

You have to have certain standards of how you cool it, what you're doing, making sure everything's clean, everything has to be inspected.

But they do that with other stuff.

That's what USDA inspection meat is.

It's definitely put together by big business to crush small people.

But they do it that way anyway with meat.

This is my point.

There's USDA inspections.

They have to make sure that the processing place is clean.

Everything's supposed to be on.

And then even then they still do the like, you know, for a, like a burger used to to be one cow, and they'd grind that bit up, and now it's like a thousand cows coming together.

Right, I don't think there's laws against that.

Right.

I don't, I think that if you, the cow thing is a weird thing, like, when and you're getting burgers that have like a thousand cows DNA in it.

It is a weird thing.

But I mean, it is just meek, right?

But I think those standards are put there by the big corporate.

Like, I was thinking about like housing zones and districting.

Like, in Australia, the median house price is a million dollars.

It's you just, you can't buy, no one in my generation is buying a home.

It's a weird.

There's so much land.

There's a lot of stuff.

You should just be able to like whip up a slum with your bros.

You go to a valley where no one is and you all live in a, that would be better to some extent rather than like renting in a horrible thing forever.

You used to be able to just like build a horrible thing.

You know, there was no building regulations.

Sometimes the ceiling would collapse and people would die.

So you think that's better to have no regulations?

Yeah.

Really?

Yes.

But that's how stadiums collapse on people in third world countries.

No doubt bad things will also happen.

No, that's a dumb idea.

I'm not saying no regulation.

All right, I'm going to walk back.

No regulation.

Okay.

But it would be nice if the regulation was somehow written just with the safety in mind and not so that I mean, there are insane, like, there are buildings up now that are perfectly safe that wouldn't pass code if they were built today.

You couldn't build them again now.

Why wouldn't they pass code?

Because they do things like, you know, the door has to be this far away from the stairs, the ceiling has to be this height, that It needs eight fire beeping detectors.

Yeah.

In the same way that, you know, like you can't cut hair without getting a degree.

You need like a certificate to be a hairdresser.

And they go, this is to make hair cutting safer.

But like people were cutting hair without.

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Okay, cutting hair is not as big an issue.

I think we should go back to the houses.

All right, go ahead.

Like, if you want to save lives, you want houses that you can escape in the case case of a fire.

And if you don't

hold the builder accountable, the person who's making that house, even if they're making it for themselves, they will then sell that house to someone else most likely.

And that person will not be in a house that's necessarily the safest it could be.

It just makes sense.

It would result in big problems.

It makes sense for it.

But it makes sense.

No, no, no, no, no.

You have to be.

Listen, when I was a kid, I grew up in construction sites.

My father was an architect.

My stepdad was an architect.

So when I was real young, I got to see

real shitty construction, how dangerous it is when people fuck around, don't follow code.

How many shady guys do a bad job?

How many people try to use lesser materials than they're supposed to be used?

It's constant.

And if you don't have regulation,

you put people's lives at stake.

I don't think America has the same problem with regulation here because you guys seem to be able to build houses.

Like houses.

Well, we have a lot of regulations, though.

Like that's

a giant point of contention with people.

There's a way to do it in a way that is just to help industry make house prices stay high.

Well, that's true too.

Both things can be true.

I think there's definitely people that take advantage of regulation, and there's definitely people that most likely stifle other businesses' growth through promotion of regulation.

That's probably true, too.

But also, like, for some stuff, like for safety stuff in homes, you fucking need regulation regulation because if you sell it to my mom and she doesn't know how anything works and then the house catches on fire, this would also be bad.

Yeah, it's just do it the right way.

They know how to do it the right way.

People have established a system.

Now, there's a bunch of shit that's arbitrary that gets aesthetic, and I'm not in favor of that.

When people get to decide what the front of your house should look like or what color you painted.

You can make something safer forever, though, and there's no limit.

There's no, like, there's no zero that you can reach of safety.

Yeah, but do you have to do that?

And there comes a point where the effort goes up to the extent where it's not.

No, but you hit a reasonable level and then you stop, and that's what the regulations say.

We'd never stop.

I mean, I think with driver's licenses, you should have some

test for competency to drive a car.

100%.

It should be something.

But when I mean, in Australia, when I was trying to get, I didn't get my license, I was like 27 because it took forever.

Like, you've got to get 100 hours registered.

You've got to do a weird test.

I got a driver's license in Ohio where I don't think road fatalities are that much higher than the rest of the world.

And you get in a car, you drive around the block, the guy goes, you know how to operate this vehicle.

We're going to say it's not going to cost $1,000.

It's more straightforward.

There's a balance

to be gotten right.

100%.

I think you're 100% right.

I relish in America that you're closer to the freedom side of things.

100% more.

Definitely much more than Australia is.

And you got to see that during the pandemic, too.

But the thing is,

there's a difference between over-regulation and Wild West, right?

There's like a fine line.

There's a comfortable middle.

And I think that middle has to be fought for because I think it really is important to have people that are actually experts, that their job is to make sure that someone builds a house correctly.

Go and look and make sure you do.

But then again, you open the door, the possibility that that inspector guy is a douchebag, and then he's got a chip on his shoulder, and he's got a big fucking ego, and people bribe him.

And, you know, there's always a possibility of that kind of stuff happening, too.

Where people love to have control over people they love to tell you you can't build they love to tell you you got to repaint your house because it's the the the color doesn't match our community how do you check that how do you like what is that other than like everyone having a gun and getting ready to a soonering level of violence and revolution you got to fight back before they ever get to that point.

It's real hard to regain ground once someone takes ground with like ridiculous legislation.

Like, look, they've been trying to legalize weed in this country for fucking 50 years and they barely put a dent in it.

I don't

know.

They've only done it on a state level.

But the point is, it's like once you lose rights,

if marijuana was illegal, just like alcohol, and all of a sudden they tried to make it illegal.

People would riot in the streets.

Like, what are you doing?

You can't do that because it wouldn't make sense.

People would be furious.

But once it's done, even if it's the same exact situation, the same exact data, the same exact safety profile, the same exact number of people using it in the country.

It's just,

it's been fucked because it got put into this weird position.

But you guys, you got prohibition somehow.

You got alcohol taken off the streets for...

Yeah, but it was bad.

Bad, and it lasted a long time, and it led directly into marijuana prohibition.

Yeah.

Same exact people.

But you just need to find something to have prohibition against.

How about cartel prohibition?

How about that?

You know, how about fentanyl?

Stop thinking about things.

But then you find out, like, oh, wait a minute, wait a a minute, there's a lot tied to this.

It's like the alcohol lobby doesn't want marijuana to be legalized.

So they fight against it, and they get politicians that are on their side.

Hey, Ralph, you're going to vote for this issue on our side.

That's the way Ralph came over.

Ralph?

Ralph Nader?

No, no, no, not that guy.

He doesn't do that.

But, you know, that's part of the problem, too, man.

It's like there's a lot of money involved in keeping it illegal.

And she's like, Jesus Christ.

But at least you can have, I think America is one of the only countries that primaries.

You can actually get into a political party and if there's enough will you can do something you do they wouldn't really change they wouldn't even allow it for the democrats to primary for the last election there was not even a presidential level they're more uptight but on a like what does that mean what is that they got the super delegates and they got the secret emails and it's not good but the fact that you could even have a system to fuck up is i think unique to like in

stick with the system the party picks who the person is and if you're in the party you get a huge benefit oh yeah that you can't have like a grassroots you can't have like the branch of the party go, we're putting forward a guy who's we're going to primary somebody.

You really can primary people in America.

Yes, you can, sort of, but not for president.

Not last time.

I and they don't let certain people in the primaries.

Like they're keeping

RFK Jr.

out of the primaries.

Yes.

And then running as an independent is

very bad.

But that's not good.

I'm not saying you're living up to it.

I'm not saying you're living up to the standards you set, but you're also the only ones who there's even like people go, we should be able to do it.

People wanted Trump to lose so badly they were willing to throw democracy out the window.

That's kind of what it is.

I mean, kind of what it is.

If that was coming from the Republican side, people would have been outraged.

To do it in the name of democracy was very weird.

Wild.

And then also, I remember one of those.

It was so Orwellian.

It's like my first week here, there was a Biden speech where he was talking about how violence has no place.

He was harping on about January 6th and stuff.

And he was saying violence has no place in the American system.

But then the example he gave was the American Revolution.

Like,

I think that gets, you're meant to have, I think Benjamin Franklin wanted everyone having an armed uprising every like 12 years or something to wipe the slate clean.

Yeah.

You're meant to, that's part of democracy.

Oh, do you know about Castro?

What about him?

I've just, I'm in a big Wikipedia wormhole about Castro.

I didn't know that he hid that he was a communist until he took he wasn't a communist or he kept that quiet.

He was like a middle-class revolutionary.

And then his brother was a commie, but he was like, he didn't come out and say he was a communist until later.

And the CIA helped him.

I've been reading Castro's.

The CIA helped him take over.

It looks like the CIA might have been.

And then towards the end, they said, we got to get out of this.

This is no good.

They really, they changed horses.

Jesus Christ.

They were really involved on both sides, but they were.

Do we do that everywhere?

There's one Aussie.

There's one Aussie that you might have done.

Gough Whitlam might have been taken out by the CIA.

Jesus.

No,

he was also a problem, and people were quite happy to have him go.

But the Governor General, man,

I don't have to go into too much detail.

Look it up, Pine Gap.

You have a military base in Australia, and he wanted to, like, get rid of it or get off American energy subsidies or something.

And then all of a sudden, he was removed.

Oh, boy.

And we haven't rocked that boat again.

We are so good at that.

Yeah.

Between us and the Israelis, the Israelis do the wildest assassinations.

Like, did you see the one of them that they did with the Iranian generals?

Let's make sure that this is true, Jamie.

I can get my visa removed for criticizing Israel.

No, no, no.

This is not a criticism.

I'm impressed by their beautiful assassination.

This is not a criticism.

This is saying, like, this is one of the most gangster things I've ever seen in my life.

They made a fake phone call to all these military leaders and said, everybody's got to meet at the bunker.

And then they blew the bunker up.

That's very Godfather?

It's gangster as fuck.

And then you add that to the pagers.

They sent pagers out.

Didn't they send them out a long time in advance?

Yeah.

I think so.

And they got in on the supply side of it.

Like they made the pages and managed to.

I mean, you think about how incompetent some forms of our government are.

Yeah.

And then how good they are at killing people that they want dead.

It's

pretty holes in the Midwest.

That would be great.

I know.

That's the same level of intensity.

Well, that's not CIA.

That's the Mossad.

But that's the same level of intent or the IDF or whoever does it over in Israel.

But the same level of intensity with other things.

You could dominate the world.

I mean, we could get a train going.

We could fix it.

An actual

high-speed rail in Texas.

I believe in it.

Imagine if they took that same kind of ingenuity and tried to fix poverty in America.

Brian Simpson said a good, he was on stage for Bottom of the Barrel, and he knocked, like someone knocked the barrel over, and they all had to pick it up.

And he goes, that's the one thing that could go wrong.

We should really fix that.

We're never going to.

It's like America.

We have the resources to make sure that never happens, and we won't.

Yeah.

No, we won't.

But we put all of our effort into making shit that kills people quicker.

That's like the most amount of money, the most amount of effort, other than like consumer goods.

I would say also sport is at some weird, very high level here.

Because that's war.

It is a very militarized society.

Everyone's getting ready to.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, football is just military strategy.

Have you ever seen Serbians play basketball?

Yes.

Yeah, I've seen clips of that.

I've seen

clips of

Serbian crowds play basketball.

They're big.

If that shit doesn't feel like war, the way the crowd is responding, the cheering, the fucking enthusiasm, like, dude, I watch it all the time just for inspiration.

They're also the only guys other than black guys who can compete in.

It's the only whites who are contributing to basketball at this point, is the Yugoslavians.

Yeah, the giant whites from a warlike culture.

Yeah.

No one else.

Sometimes an Aussie gets through.

We've had like two Aussies break through.

Bro, Serbian fighters are terrifying.

The dudes from like the Caucas region, like all the guys from Dagas.

They've been at it for Georgia, animals.

They couldn't get it to work.

Dude, someone just printed something or posted something about the UFC's top pound-for-pound list, and six of them are from the Caucas region.

Six of them.

It seems high.

But there's also, sometimes that's like a genetic.

Like marathon runners tend to be from one mountain.

In Kenya?

There's the elite of the elite.

Yeah, like people go, go, black people are good at marathon running.

But then when you bought it down, it's like, okay.

But 90% of them are from Kenya.

And then 90% of those people are from one mountain in Kenya, where the air is very thin.

Oh, so they've adapted.

There's a book called Taboo, which is about race difference in

all sports.

And they're like, you're this likely to, you know, you can't be a white corner.

Now there is one, I think.

But like.

Rare.

But there are, it's very rare and it's very strange.

And some of it's social stuff.

But a lot of it it is.

I was reading a thing about Mexicans can't get knocked out.

That's not true.

No, there must be some, but there's like some gene that is very common in the Mexican population that makes it less likely that you'll be knocked out.

What?

Really?

I think that's why they have lots of boxes.

I'm half remembering something I read on Wikipedia late at night.

Wouldn't that be crazy if they have such a history of boxing that boxing has somehow or another gotten into their genes to have strong chins?

What came first?

Yeah, right?

chicken of the egg.

Am I right?

Any connection between Mexican men and the specific gene ACTN3?

Saw a video on how Mexicans are so good at boxing.

Mexico's produced 209 champions.

That's pretty incredible.

Video explains how Mexicans supposedly have a gene that has the ACTN3, which determines endurance and or strength, one or the other.

I was wondering, is there any truth to this?

What's the answer?

This is about what I need to believe something, is a Reddit post from four years ago.

No, if you look down there, is this just one person's post?

Did someone answer them?

Well, I didn't want to get into the answers because you never know.

That's where, like, his point.

You never know where this goes.

Right.

I was just going to start there and then start.

Let's find out if there's anything to that.

It's fascinating.

But I would wonder, because if like you think about like a history of boxing,

boy, Mexico has such a history of boxing.

And also there's a high level of poverty.

So whenever there's a high level of poverty, there's a lot of sports where you don't need a lot of money to play them.

Soccer's one.

Yep.

Um Boxing's another one.

You just need gloves, and you can just fuck around, and guys would be good.

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So there's, I was doing a bit about this and I I could never get it to like really fly, but like Kyrgyzstan, they have a wife wrestling.

You wrestle a woman into a van if you want to marry a woman in Kyrgyzstan.

You like.

Today?

Yeah, they call it Alakachu.

Alakachu.

And there's a big Wikipedia page on that.

But you've got to get this lady in the van against her will.

And then once she gets in the van, she's so ashamed that she marries you.

Oh, boy.

But like, the one sport they're good at at the Olympics is women's freestyle wrestling.

They're great at that.

So what came first?

The medals or the van?

Did they have to get good at wrestling because men kept putting them in vans?

Or were they so good at wrestling that men were like, Let's let them show off their beautiful skills?

That's a really good question.

I would imagine they were fending off men for a long time.

They had a developed technique.

I assume it was a horse before it was a van.

Jesus.

You can wrestle because they only got the van quite late.

There's no way.

Anyway,

one day I'm going to make that fly.

Yeah, that's a bit if it's a part of your culture.

I would, you know, Jesus.

Yes.

Bride kidnapping.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah, there's a lot of vice.

We are breaking the law, says Mediev.

But everyone understands the tradition and you can't change it.

Wow, member of a local government, a small village outside of Kyrg's capital.

How do you say that?

Bishkek?

Bishkek, you think?

But everyone here understands is a tradition and you can't change it.

Oh, okay.

Mediv kidnapped his wife, Elmira, more than 10 years ago.

He's one of many Kyrgyz men who have gotten married through the Central Asian practice of bride kidnapping.

And they go like 80% of the time it's consensual.

Like they organize.

But then 20% of the time you're just wrestling a woman into a van against her will.

So there are consensual kidnappings where two people know each other and it's kind of role-playing.

Then there's full-on off-the-street abductions.

Unfortunately, they both look the same.

You really want a safe word for that.

Whoa.

It could be hard to tell if the girl you see crying for her mom and clawing at the faces of her abductors is merely acting out her part for her boyfriend and his family's sake or is actually on her way to being married against her will like what the fuck very important to be able to tell the difference i would say i don't want to pass judgment on the people of kyrgyzstan this is the thing about the world

if you go back like 6 000 7 000 years ago it was all like that you can go back to a hundred years ago and everyone they were footbinding in china they were having beautiful people doing it didn't oh they can't still be binding the face photos of it they still foot binding in china i mean i don't know how widely practiced it is they're older ladies yeah i know when they stopped but i don't think it was that long ago like there's people that are alive right now that have those foot bread well i'm for it you don't want some filthy peasant foot on your wife you want a humble graceful bro you better keep those socks on they do i was reading about those feet are weird they are they look like they're folded in on themselves

so painful to walk

i think it's cameroon they do chest bind like they they flatten a woman's when she starts getting breasts they like you flatten the breast but what's weird is that it's the Christian progressive people who are doing it.

Because the culture is once a woman has breasts, she has to get married and she has to come out of school.

So because you love your daughter, you iron the boobs down so that she doesn't have to get married for a couple years.

Isn't that funny?

Jesus Christ.

They should put an end to it.

Oh, last shoe factory making lotus shoes closed in 1999.

Wow.

There could be some Michael Jordan lotus shoes out there.

Lotus shoes.

Oh, my God.

So when did this start?

I said 1,200s or something.

Wow.

The 1200s.

Look at that lady's foot.

Look at that lady's foot.

Look at that.

That is so crazy.

I just see beauty.

I just see.

I see painful pinky toes.

How is that lady ever going to take like an aerobics class?

Look, look how it's become the part of the bottom of her foot.

That's so crazy.

How badly does that fuck with your back?

It's so big on that screen.

I'd never seen them that big before.

Bro,

those feet are busted up.

But the commies stamped it out mostly.

The commies mostly.

The commie malgo route.

You can't work.

No, you got to be, yeah.

You can't partake in the great glorious revolution.

Or the lotus shoe.

They are beautiful shoes.

That's so crazy.

You can't buy them.

Straight to shopping.

You never know.

Is that the same thing?

No, that's a brand name.

That's a brand name.

When you walk into your house, it's all O.J.

Simpson merchandise and footbound lotus shoes.

Actually, this flavor is pretty good.

Oh,

that's hilarious.

What a fucked-up practice.

Yeah, there's a lot of them.

Yeah, what about the one where women put plates in their lips?

Or plates in the lip, the neck extension?

I love the ring neck extension.

The ring neck extensions don't even make sense.

Like,

how does that work?

Like, if you take it off, will your head fall off?

Like, do you have any muscles left?

Do you have any muscles left to support your head?

I would doubt it.

Like, do you have to keep that on for the rest of the day?

I don't think they're meant to be that long.

No, I think they're long.

Bro, that's fucking insane.

That's insane.

Just one guy saw a giraffe and he was like, Can we do that?

Is that a Photoshop?

Is that a Photoshop?

That's the same person in multiple.

That's really legit.

But there's a young lady doing

a Photoshop.

That can't be real.

That can't be real.

That lady's head is 15 feet.

That's like that last one's like AI porno for neck guys.

Bro, that's so dark.

That's so weird.

Like, I don't like that at all.

Yeah.

Oh, don't show me.

Oh, they just keep piling those things on and fitting them.

Yeah.

What a weird thing to do to your neck, man.

That's got to be a good thing.

So we do weird stuff.

We inject lips.

But, bro, that's crazy.

She's got a towel under her chin.

But they could be watching it being like, you know, in America, they chop off a little boy's penis and they turn it into a pretend vagina.

Isn't that sick and wrong?

Well, they probably do that there, too.

And I would agree with them.

That's a very important part of our culture.

I wonder if they do do it.

You know, someone in the green room was saying the other day the reason why there's so many ladyboys in Thailand was because being homosexual was illegal.

Is that true?

Wasn't it legal everywhere?

This person that said it is just, they said it in passing.

I don't know if it was true.

And I meant to Google it, and I totally forgot until now.

I mean, it could be.

I'm pretty sure it was illegal all over the place, and no one else was doing that.

No one else had that

particular reaction.

Well, you know, that's the thing about

what is that fucker?

Turing.

Alan Turing.

Yeah.

Alan Turing was the guy who invented the Turing test.

And he was gay and they...

Yeah, and they fucking poisoned him.

They gave him hormone blockers.

Was it just because he was gay?

Yeah.

There were so many gay British guys, though.

Yeah, but he was...

They had like a long history of...

Like Oscar Wilde, everyone knew he was gay, and it was only when he went after a guy's son that I think they went.

Oh.

Yeah, I think he went after a guy's young son.

Well, they could always target you for it, though.

If they want to get you for something else, they will

use that.

But I think Byron was off.

But he was, like, hospitalized.

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However, same-sex attraction and transgender identities were still seen as socially unacceptable in many cases.

Those that gender expression or behavior falls out of social norms are less likely to be tolerated or accepted so what happened

just this year the they've allowed same-sex marriage

they've allowed adoption from this year but uh that's very late to it because i think a lot of gay couples have been going there to get children for a long time and now they're saying you can have them here

that's a big

that's not spoken about is the

the renter womb and the it's kind of bizarre i'm against it it's very strange the idea of a surrogate is very odd.

Like, you're having a baby, but it's not really you having the baby.

Like, okay, I get it.

If someone can have a baby, the couple wants to have a baby, they hire a surrogate.

I get it.

It's your genes.

It's your baby.

But it's still.

But also, there's, I mean, I know Elon has like a lot of kids with different ladies.

But that's the public one.

He's like one of the only public-facing billionaires.

There's got to be guys out there who are like, I'm getting...

I'm getting 10,000 kids.

I'm like,

take my cum and move it out across.

I'm going to be Genghis Khan with science.

Well, guys have done that that are doctors.

They just put their own cum in the case.

There's a breakout case in Adelaide about

there's maybe a thousand siblings in Adelaide.

My husband.

Oh man, every time guys get a chance, they do it.

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Okay, but the thing is, it's like they're just playing with words.

Hold on.

Let's go back.

Because they're saying surrogacy for someone having sex with someone and getting them pregnant and having a baby.

That's not surrogacy.

You got a pregnant with.

That's a mistress.

Yeah, you got another lady pregnant.

That's all that is.

So what we think of as surrogacy is you taking an embryo and inserting it into another woman's womb, right?

Yeah.

That's a completely new thing.

And I think that's where it's weird.

It's coming in like wives of soldiers.

The other one's like an agreement.

Like, if the wife can't get pregnant, but she wants to have a baby, and she says, listen, if you fuck my best friend, she'll have the baby, and then we'll take care of the baby.

Yeah.

And I know that I can't have babies, but you, you know, if that's if you guys are

that kind of swingers and you're down with that,

that's up to you.

That feels different from the science.

It's not surrogacy.

You just had a baby with a different human.

No, surrogacy seems bad and wrong.

I'm I'm digging in.

But, bro, it's going to go to artificial wombs.

All right.

That's going to be the new one.

And whether that's 20 years from now or 50 years from now, you're going to be able to make a baby outside of a human body.

It's going to get real freakies.

We've got to draw a hot line.

We pulled this up.

The IVF thing gave me a weird thought.

I'm a little stone thought.

It's not possible how Jesus was born, was it?

They didn't have any sort of way to do that.

In the IVF base.

They just forgot about it.

Could be.

Could be that they had that technique.

Jamie, it was was the Holy Spirit.

I know what they say.

I'm just, but like, yeah.

Well,

obviously.

Well, for sure, they could have inserted sperm into her.

Without her ever having sex, they could have impregnated.

I think there's like dolphins that can do it.

If dolphins are on their own for a long time, then an egg can fertilize another egg.

What?

It doesn't happen often, but there are examples of it.

Really?

Yes.

That's nuts.

I think I believe that I've read that.

You sure?

I've said that loudly and confidently at a party before.

Mammal?

It might have been.

That sounds so crazy that a mammal could do that.

Dolphins don't lay eggs.

Oh, inside, I guess.

Yeah, inside of them?

They can insect me.

I'm so happy for it.

I think it's like a couple examples of auto-insemination.

So it's like one of the eggs has so much jizz in it that it leaks out.

You get to the other eggs.

You get a very butcher egg.

Yeah, you get a trans egg.

You get maybe one of the eggs is male, and it just jizzes on the other egg.

You know, it's an early developer.

Yeah.

Just like comes out of it.

Maybe jizz is like like in some of them, out of the box.

I think there's virgin birth in nature.

It's not common.

There's a lot, but it's a bad thing.

There's definitely animals switch genders.

Animals, especially like primitive reptilian-type fucking weird animals,

there's certain animals that can switch their genders.

I think seahorse ladies have a penis.

I think so.

Am I getting that?

You know, hyenas have a penis.

Females.

No, I didn't know that.

Bigger than the males.

Just for show?

No, they dominate the males.

They're bigger than they peg the males with their female hyenas.

They're one of the rare matriarchal mammals.

So the females are bigger than the males.

They have more testosterone than the males, and they have bigger dicks.

And they hold the males down.

Yeah, you want some of this pussy?

And then the male has to take his little dick and stick it inside of her big dick.

Well, but the big...

The lady dick just slapping against his belly?

Yeah, you want to hear even worse?

60% of all hyenas that are born suffocate to death during childbirth coming out of that dick because they're coming out they come out of the dick uh-huh the vagina's on the tip of the dick no it's it's really a vagina come on hold on it's a vagina but it's like a can we see the hyena

oh it's it's bananas it's bananas i want to because i it's called it they call it like a faux penis man i think last time shane came on here i think you guys were talking about the trans penises and then he just kept texting me the trans penis oh he's horrible at that he's horrible just wake up in the middle of the night to show these skin graft scars You're like, what am I looking at?

Why is it so much bigger than mine?

Why can't you have a humble penis?

I've got to see.

Wow.

Yeah.

All right.

So female hyenas have this giant fake dick.

And

yeah.

It's huge.

They have to put their penis.

The boys have to put their dicks in.

Exactly.

And that's how the babies come out of that.

And a lot of the babies die on the way out.

We've got to destroy all the hyenas.

60%, I think.

I think that's the number.

Let's make sure that that's the correct number.

I'm pretty sure it is.

I think it's.

The hyena people will be furious.

60% suffocate during childbirth.

And then, on top of that, then they fight over who gets the nipple, and some of them get killed.

Well, that's why they're so unhappy all the time.

Oh, the Lion King.

They're just in the most ruthless environment, and they're not the biggest animals.

18% were child first-time mother.

That's the mother die.

Oh, 9 to 18%

the mother dies.

Jesus Christ.

That's crazy.

Got eyes open.

Could you imagine 80% of the women dying because they're giving birth?

Yeah, 60% of all spotted hyena cubs die in the early stages of life, especially from the first litter.

Some scientific observations place the survival rate of firstborn cubs at around 40% or less.

Wow.

So siblicide is huge.

Siblicide is very huge.

They fight to the death over like little nipples.

And like stepdads are not common in the animal kingdom.

Well, that's also why female hyenas, I think, are bigger.

They're going to protect.

Yeah, I think they're there to, because the men hyenas are bitches, and the men probably eat the babies.

Because that happens in other communities.

Like, that happens in bears.

In the bear world, female tigers, or female bears, rather.

The reason why when you stumble upon a female bear, she's ready to fuck you up.

Like, that's the worst thing that can happen in the woods.

You stumble upon a female bear with her cubs.

You're in real trouble.

If you stumble upon a male and

he might he might not have any interest in you at all.

But if you stumble, if you're too close to the cubs, if like she is in front and the cubs are behind and you're behind them, you just run away.

Bro, you might not have the time.

She might just come for you and you can't do a goddamn thing about it because she's dealing with male grizzlies eating her cubs all the time.

So she's always on 10.

I mean, if we go to Yosemite, should we bring a gun?

You shouldn't go off trail for sure.

You shouldn't go off trail.

You should definitely bring bear spray if you're any.

But Yosemite is in California, right?

I've fucked this up before.

Yellowstone has the grizzlies.

This is Wyoming.

Yosemite has the black bears.

Black bears generally aren't as dangerous as grizzly bears.

Are there grizzly bears in California?

No, there's not.

Even though it's the flag, the state flag.

It's the bear on the flag.

The flag misled me.

Well, they killed too many people, and they killed killed them all.

But they've got coyotes still running around.

Coyotes don't really kill people.

They kill your cats and dogs.

Mountain lions occasionally kill people, but grizzlies were killing a lot.

I feel like you guys have way more animals that kill people than we do.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

People talk about our animals all the time.

We've got a snake and we've got a spider.

Nobody.

You want to watch out for?

You got saltwater crocodiles, motherfuckers.

Yeah, but if you stay away from the crocs.

What are you talking about?

You just keep away from far north Queensland.

But they are...

Yeah, but you have to avoid a whole part of your country because it's infested by monsters.

We were happy to give that one up to the Japanese.

We made a deal that if the Japanese invaded, we'd let them have the saltwater crocodile part of the country.

Have you seen Bob Caddock?

This is like our best clip from a politician.

He's talking about gay marriage and he turns it into talking about crocodiles.

No.

Oh, Bob Caddock, crocodile, is my favorite.

He wins his Far North Queensland seat every year.

He's not in any party.

But he's like,

let a thousand blossoms bloom.

Oh, yeah.

Let me hear it.

I mean, you know, people are entitled to their sexual proclivities.

You know, I mean, let there be a thousand blossoms bloom as far as I'm concerned.

But I ain't spending any time on it because, in the meantime, every three months, a person is torn to pieces by a crocodile in North Queensland.

He's the man.

He needs more power in our government.

Every three months.

That's a person is torn apart by a crocodile in North Queensland.

Is that true?

I believe it.

Jesus Christ.

Well, there's

a lot of people.

There's a lot of...

Every three months.

They come in the ocean as well.

They swim out of the waters.

I want you to imagine this.

Yeah.

What if every three months someone got killed by a werewolf?

Would you still go out at night?

Yeah.

Every three months someone gets killed by a werewolf in your town.

I mean, but how many people are dying on the roads every day?

I understand.

But there's something uniquely terrified about getting eaten.

The The Crocs never got Steve Ewen.

That was the Rays.

I'm more upset by the Rays.

Well, he knew how to handle the Crocs.

What's that?

Four deaths since 2020 and nine non-fatal attacks.

Oh, that's bullshit.

No, it's still beginning.

You just didn't die.

You got ripped apart, though.

Nine.

Nine.

Yeah, but that's not three.

That's not like what he was saying.

It's come down.

He was saying that bad.

What was his number that he was saying?

He said three a month.

What did he say?

Three a month?

It's also seven years.

Every three months.

Every three months.

Oh, every three months?

We might have clamped down on it.

It's only four a year.

Yeah.

But also, there's, you know,

you're not walking through the city and going, the crocs are going to come again.

Yeah, but if you go anywhere near a lake and you make the wrong kind of vibrations.

Yeah, they were very scared.

I went to Cairns once and they were all very scared.

They come out so quick.

They come out so quick, dude.

But also, what a beautiful way to die.

If you have to die, not beautiful at all.

Nope.

Nope.

He was eaten by a crocodile.

Actillian evil.

The last moments of your life will be horrible energy that you will pass on to the cosmos.

You will die in the most horrific way possible.

They all fed on two pieces of paper.

Yeah, where he's over planning.

He's over 885.

These are all the people that have been killed by the battle.

But again, Cairns, Cairns, both.

Cape York, Cape York.

That's up north.

So there's a lot of non-fatals in there.

Or do they have a lot of people?

There are a few people here.

No one, you know, we don't have it.

We've got Cairns.

That would be the biggest city up north.

Are those as large as the Nile crocodiles, the saltwater crocodiles?

I don't know how big a Nile crocodile is.

I only just saw an alligator for the first time.

They're not as scary.

Well, you got to see a big one, dude.

Lady just got killed in Orlando by one last week.

Saltwater, larger, more vicious.

Saltwaters are larger than the Niles.

More aggressive.

Bro, you have the most aggressive crocodiles in the world.

We've got them, and we got...

It's a lot of koalas and kangaroos.

Kangaroos are so friends.

You have the most aggressive dinosaur in the world in your country.

That's why to get torn apart by one would be an honor.

Yeah.

No?

You know what I would like to do?

I'd like to get together with some special forces dudes and kill those motherfuckers from the air.

Okay, everybody thinks you have to keep them around.

You got to keep them around.

Yeah, I think maybe we keep three in a zoo and everybody else is dead.

They're beautiful, crazy.

Turn them into shoes.

Do you know about the cage of death?

What's that?

You can get into a cage.

Yeah, isn't that a good one?

Don't you show me that?

That's a good cage.

That's a strong cave.

You'd be fine.

No, no, no, people.

Why do you want to do that?

Don't want to do it.

Jesus, that is such a monster.

Such a fucking heartless monster.

If that thing opened opened up somehow accidentally it would love to eat you what is wrong with people

he's trying to get in there

look at that thing it's so big they're so terrifying dude i mean it is a fucking monster and that's not even a big one man

I have a friend.

His name is Jim Shocky, and he's a professional hunter.

He lives in Canada.

And

they sent him to Africa to shoot crocodiles because they were killing so many people in this one village.

And he said when he got there, there was this one particular big croc that was there that was just killing everybody.

Everybody was like missing a foot.

Everybody had one arm.

Like for real.

He didn't like the jaws, but for crocodile?

Yeah, he said it was crazy.

It's like so many people in this town had been bitten by crocodiles.

So they had developed this system where they put posts in the ground, in the water, so that they knew the crocodiles couldn't get into that, right?

So what the crocodiles did was go around it and sneak into the the water when the people weren't around.

They're impressive, beautiful.

Have you seen in India when they get like a puma in the village and everyone's standing on the roof, and the puma's like running around the streets, and the guys are trying to throw a net on it?

Yeah, nuts.

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Is that it?

Oh my god.

It's over 20 feet.

Oh, is that a saltwater one?

It looks bigger because they're very small people, but that's so big, dude.

That's so big.

That's such a dinosaur.

And then we turn it into handbags and shoes.

Thank God.

I went down a rabbit hole the other day.

It's so funny that people want to keep them around.

I know.

I want to be real clear.

I don't want them to go extinct, for sure.

Mostly just fucking around here.

They shouldn't be in residential zones.

It is weird that we tolerate a certain amount of monsters.

It's weird.

To reintroduce them seems nutty.

Oh.

When people are bringing the wolves back.

Bro, the thing they're doing in Colorado is so stupid because this is what they did.

Okay.

Colorado took these wolves from Oregon that had been preying on cattle and then they moved them into Colorado where they preyed on cattle.

And then the people whose cattle they were preying on got pissed off.

So they took a bunch of them and removed them and put them in Pitkin County over by Aspen where they

prey on cattle.

It's the dumbest thing.

Everyone's like, oh, it's going to be

in the cattle industry?

No, they're dumb.

They don't know what they're doing.

It's wildlife.

It's ballot boxing.

This one Fleury, who's like...

No, it's the governor.

The governor and his husband wanted to do it this way.

They wanted to reintroduce wolves.

But wolves were already on their way to being reintroduced to Colorado.

They were doing it naturally.

There's wolves, there's a pack of wolves that was established that had already made their way into Colorado.

Colorado borders Wyoming.

Wyoming has wolves.

So they were getting wolves.

Is this a tourism thing?

Are they just like

that?

No, it's like, look, there's

some

real thought that could be put into whether or not an ecosystem should be balanced with the proper amount of predators.

And if you, the human race, were responsible for killing off this one major predator that was in this ecosystem,

that seems irresponsible.

And maybe we can bring that animal back and it would balance out the system.

This is the thought process.

The problem with that is these animals have become accustomed to just killing cattle.

They did it in Oregon, then they did it in Colorado, and then they're doing it where they are now.

And everybody wants to pretend it's not happening.

So they want to pretend they didn't do that.

They didn't do a giant fuck up.

These are not wild wolves that are going to go out and hunt down elk and make the population smaller.

No, they're used to preying on cattle.

Yeah.

So they're killing cows all the time.

But there's a lot of people who want to hunt, right?

Like there are people who want to take out the animals that the wolves would have taken out.

Well, yeah, but you should have a balance.

You should have mountain lines.

Like the wild can't, you can't sterilize certain aspects of the ecosystem because they're dangerous to you.

But what you shouldn't do is take these animals and then move them into an area where nothing is prepared.

The ranchers aren't prepared.

No one warned them.

They moved them to that area without letting anybody know.

One of my friends has a ranch there.

They released some of the wolves on his property.

And these wolves, now all of a sudden, wolves that are used to killing cattle are killing cattle down there.

Yeah, because it would be way easier.

They're easier.

They're all together.

Yeah.

They don't run away.

They stand still and then you kill the cats.

They're like in Britain they got rid of all the wolves.

They got rid of all the wolves everywhere, dude.

There's a reason why they did it.

It's because wolves are like the most intelligent.

They're like psychic super predators.

They're the most intelligent of all predators.

They're the only predator that we have in North America that hunts in a pack.

And they're big.

You're dealing with a hundred-pound-plus animal that hunts in a pack.

They're bringing back the dire wolf as well?

Well, so that's different.

Okay, this is not

bringing something back to put it in the head.

They're not going to put it in the wild.

They brought it back to show that this

gene editing that they do for animals is legitimate.

So to do that, they reproduced an animal from the genes of one of them.

What was it?

What were the numbers, Jamie?

One was like 50,000 years old and one was like 70,000 years old when Beth Shapiro was in here.

The lady who's like the head geneticist, brilliant brilliant woman,

she was explaining it all to us.

And it's just, the whole thing is bananas.

So they essentially didn't even know what they were going to look like until they came out.

Is the hope that we get the dinosaurs?

They're trying to build Jurassic Park?

100% that's going to come if they have DNA from a dinosaur.

I don't think they do.

I don't think it's possible.

I think it's too degraded when it's that old that you don't find like, but maybe they'll find something.

But the Tasmanian Devils definitely, they're always trying to bring that back.

No, the Tasmanian tiger.

Sorry, the Tasmanian Devils.

Tasmanian Devils is, they're around.

That's a weird one because they get cancer from biting each other.

They get face cancer.

They all have weird.

I mean, all the koalas have chlamydia.

Do they really?

Yeah, they're probably from Silas.

Australian colours.

Wow, they're very cute.

They're very...

It's the dugong of the land.

Those Tasmanian devils, they bite each other in the face and they get these horrible face deformities.

It's like

communicable cancer.

It's like cancer that they transfer to each other.

It's real real weird

before we got there i don't think it has anything to do with us i don't think that's i think it has something to do with like whatever the fuck is in their mouth you know it could be just all the horrible shit that they eat yeah and then they bite each other and their teeth are probably rotten and disgusting i don't know like find why do tasmanian tiger or devils rather give each other cancer Let's find out.

Well, what do they

I mean we could let them know?

What are we going to brush their teeth?

Can't do anything.

Unless you can come up with a medication that stops it from happening, like an antibiotic or something.

I just don't understand how cancer can be communicable like that.

Like, you can just transfer it by biting.

Seems crazy.

Yeah, if you got covered in a tumor, you wouldn't get cancer, would you?

Okay.

Devil facial tumor disease.

It's a contagious fatal cancer that

primarily affects the face and the mouth area of Tasmanian devils.

Diseases significantly impacted the wild population, posing a serious threat to their survival.

What is it?

DFTD is a transmissible cancer, meaning it spreads through the transfer of living cancer cells, primarily via biting.

They didn't notice till the 90s.

Wow.

The tumors usually start as lesions or patches on the mouth and on the face and grow into large, disfiguring masses.

The disease is almost universally fatal.

Whoa.

So we must have done this.

We must be something.

But if it started in the 90s and now they're going extinct because of it.

But that does happen with animals sometimes.

That feels like weird timing that they were getting by for 100,000 years and then 200 years after Whitey gets there.

But that's...

It's possible, right?

Yeah, that's

it.

It's good to be cynical.

We're about to name a football team after them.

They're a crazy animal.

You ever hear the sounds they make?

No.

Let's play that.

Play the sounds of Tasmanian Devil.

They sound so cool.

Like, he was my favorite character, for sure, in the Warner Brothers cartoons, The Tasmanian Devil.

He'd spin around.

He was funny.

Bugs Bunny.

When I found out, it was at university, people kept going, like, he's black.

Do you know he's black?

Bugs Bunny's black.

It's like a big thing that he was a black-coated character.

He's always, like, relaxed.

Oh.

And he's got a cool plan that he's working on.

He's like a Zootsuit guy from the 20s.

Yeah.

Let me hear some of this.

Yeah, look, Devil was an easy name to pick.

No points for the guy who came up with that.

I mean, if you called it anything else, I would be disappointed.

I miss our beautiful Australian animals.

I miss the trees.

I got to go through

California and see all the gum trees again.

I haven't seen gum trees in forever.

Look at that.

That's so nice.

What a ferocious little fucker.

Something gets in the blood where it's like, that's what I think an animal should look like.

You know what I saw?

I think foliage should look like.

Close recently for I think maybe the first time, a wolverine.

Are they real?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, the real animal.

Yeah, it was at a

badger.

No, it's a badger.

It's in the badger family, I think.

But I saw one at like this nature preserve when I was on the road.

It was pretty interesting, man.

You see those little fuckers, like, they're unbelievably ferocious.

They scare bears off of carcasses, and they weigh like 50 pounds.

But there are, this is the year that I've seen the most animals, because I've got kids and we travel around, and I go, I've been to like eight zoos this year.

Oh, cool.

There's a lot of zoos, but they're, man,

did you know in New York they had a guy at the zoo?

They had a human zoo.

What is he fighting here, Jamie?

Yes.

Wait, that's the Wolverine?

Yeah.

It's a Wolverine.

If we get into animal fight videos, I...

Wolverine and the Wolf Fighter.

I think he pissed himself while that was happening.

Of course.

He probably pisses himself all over the place, just probably to make himself more ferocious.

Like, the wolf gets a hold of him.

I've seen mountain lions get a hold of them, and they don't kill them.

They're like unbelievably durable.

You ever watch the bird and the fish that goes on for like...

The bird and the fish?

It's like a heron trying to get a small fish, and they play it in slow motion.

They put classical music behind it.

Animals trying to get away from other.

That's a big.

Oh, I've watched a lot of those.

Animals trying to get away from animals.

Running fast across the wilderness, and you want them to get away.

So your animals, you have a lot of weirdness going on over there, right?

Because you have kangaroos, sometimes they get like an infestation, right?

Yeah, then they go up in a helicopter and they gun down the kangaroos.

What used to kill the kangaroos back in the day?

I

don't think anything was killing them.

So how did they get to the city?

I think it might have just been less arable land.

Maybe they had like less to eat.

Oh, I assume they would starve.

But like,

I don't think anything kills the emus.

We lost all our big predators.

The predators aren't got two.

Dingoes and dingoes came later.

Dingoes, I think, came from India.

Yeah, but here's the thing, man.

Some kangaroos are like six feet tall.

They're fucking huge.

But they'll only bother you.

There's that one video of the guy with the dog.

Right, but what I'm saying is

good luck to the dingo.

Yeah.

These fuckers get big.

Well, they're in packs, though.

The dingoes are.

Yeah.

Oh, so they'll hunt.

I think they're in packs.

Well, they probably don't hunt the big males either, right?

Bro, look at all.

Fuck, I miss Australia.

Do you?

yeah what do you miss the most i miss the football i miss the look at the accent look at all these fucking i don't remember that that doesn't usually happen we don't usually get together and what's all the demon weird mobile cults it was during covert when everyone was inside there was like kangaroos came back into the town they were jumping about so this is a mob of kangaroos that was that does look like a mob you'll see them you'll go on like a nature walk and you'll just see a kangaroo in the distance just looking at you geez but they're like you know they they seem friendly and mysterious and then they jump away.

So, was there like more dingos all over Australia at one point in time?

I think we

clamped down on it at some point.

Clamped down on the lingo.

Well, there was that lady who lost a baby, and she said a dingo got it, and no one believed her.

And now they think the dingo maybe got that baby.

But also, the dingos are all in the.

I've never seen a dingo.

Imagine your dingo eating your baby, and nobody believes you.

Yeah.

Isn't that crazy?

Not only is it horrible that a dingo ate your baby, but then also

you killed your baby.

All right, my my favourite one is the poet Ted Hughes.

He's married to Sylvia Plath.

He comes home, she's killed herself in the oven.

Oh, it's very sad.

She's killed herself in the oven?

I don't think he came home.

He'd left her by that point for another woman.

She gassed herself in the oven.

Oh, God.

Then he, the woman, I think it's the woman that he runs away with, a couple years later, she also kills herself in the family oven.

Oh.

His second wife.

So, like, from the outside, people in the British literary establishment start going, I think he's killing his wives in the oven.

You can't have a second oven

suicide.

That's a for me once type situation.

Well, you could if the second wife obsessed about the death of the first wife

to the point.

Boy, you'd be careful with wife number three.

You'd say we're going electric oven.

Well, these are ex-wives, right?

Yeah, once they're.

But I think he was still married to the second one.

Oh, okay.

He didn't have to leave her, but he.

So while they were married, she X'd herself like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that guy's probably got shitty choice in ladies.

I believe it.

But he's so cautious.

I'm the second one in the same way.

Yeah, that's an issue.

You'd be like, this keeps coming up.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Yeah.

That's the thing about the Clinton body count.

People go, if 51 of your friends commit suicide.

Very sad.

Like, something's going on.

That's a giant number.

Most people don't have 51 close associates whack themselves in strange ways.

Some people are unlucky.

One of the guys hung himself from a tree by

extension cord and then shot himself in the chest with a shotgun.

Yeah, because he's a hard worker.

He was probably a good part of the DNC operation.

You didn't want to leave it to chance.

Yeah, the mysterious suicide.

It's hard not to get into the conspiracy.

I try not to have a conspiratorial mindset because I get unhappy.

Well, we already talked about what Israel did.

They made the fake phone call, told them that.

But that was only because it was impressive.

That's a conspiracy.

And I thought it was cool.

Right, it is is cool.

But the beepers, they came out and they said we did it.

Both of them are cool, but it's a conspiracy.

They conspired to whack somebody.

They did conspire.

Yeah.

And they did it, and they pulled it off.

Well, they also

were getting like

the last Nazis for a while.

Oh, yeah.

Over the latter half of the year.

Hunt them down.

50 years later, 60 years later, hunt them down.

Yeah.

You'd think they'd manage to clear up Hamas quicker.

It's one of the weirder things.

You ever see that show,

Hunting Hitler or Finding Hitler?

No.

Okay.

I've seen shows like that on the History Channel a lot.

I don't know if I've seen that one.

Tim Kennedy was on it.

And they all went down to Argentina.

And one of the things you find in Argentina is like entire towns where people speak German.

Yeah.

And so what.

And Italians, too.

Well, yeah, right.

Miss Luni's guys.

Yeah.

And so they found all these photographs of like SS soldiers on the walls in people's houses.

Like, there was a television show about it.

We have a German town in Australia where they say there's a pub with like Nazi stuff on the walls.

I've never seen it, but the Germans.

There's a Bavarian town where everyone's nice and relaxed, and then there's like a Prussian town where people

keep it.

But also, sometimes you will go around to a German guy's house, like they've got an old German family, and then you look over on the mantelpiece, and there's a knife there.

It's a very special knife.

It's like, we can't get rid of it.

That's grandpa's knife.

The weird thing is, like, they have full towns down in Argentina that practice Oktoberfest.

Yeah.

They put on the Lederhosen, the whole deal.

Like, it's a German town.

I think there's something about the black population disappeared.

I don't know if this is, I think it might be Argentina.

They had like a big black population and then over a hundred years people go, I don't know where they are anymore, but they're not here now.

And I think it coincides with the, maybe it was before the Nazis got there.

But that's a weird, that's a weird rabbit hole.

There's not a lot about it.

There's so many rabbit holes.

Some people say like they just integrated and

what?

Whitened up?

Like it's kids after kids and you can't see it.

But like

They had a big black population.

Am I right?

I need that one.

I don't want to just say that and have it slip.

Look that one up.

But like it disappeared.

And this is Argentina?

It could be Europe.

Black Genocide, the true history of the whitening of Argentina.

Thank you, Travel Noir.

A website.

I've never heard of that website, but I assume it's a.

Whoa.

Today, many Argentinians hold the erroneous belief that Argentina neither participated in the slave trade nor witnessed the presence of Afro-Argentinians as if they had left the country naturally.

Such misconceptions persist despite historical evidence.

Former Argentine President Carlos Menem

once shockingly declared in Argentina blacks do not exist.

That is a Brazilian problem.

No one's bringing that up.

Whoa, less than two centuries ago, black individuals compromised over a third of Argentina's population in 1800.

That seems like a question.

That seems like someone should find out what happened there.

Holy shit.

Holy shit, man.

The factors

behind the disappearance.

Sudden and profound disappearance of black Africans from Argentina is attributed to a confluence of factors.

The 1870s, though.

First is the war against Paraguay, spanning from 1865 to 1870.

Thousands of black individuals fought in the military during these conflicts and other wars, resulting in significant losses.

The fatalities led to a considerable gender gap within the African population, prompting unions between black women and white men, which effectively diluted the black populace.

In addition, many Afro-Argentines sought refuge in more welcoming political climates in neighboring Brazil and Uruguay.

But you don't lose a third of the population by accident by by like a break.

This is a problem.

They're saying all of them.

Yeah.

Like, there's no way these factors would make all of them go away.

Another devastating factor was the outbreak of yellow fever in Buenos Aires in 1871, which claimed the lives of numerous locals.

But still, wouldn't it be like proportion?

Here it is.

But many sources point to a far darker and more sinister force at work, a covert genocide orchestrated by Domingo Faustino Sarimento, who served as Argentina's president from 1868 to 1874 and played a pivotal role in decimating the Afro-Argentine population.

Okay, so it is a genocide.

Yeah.

But this was about 100 years before I thought.

Wow.

But then no one's going after Argentina for this.

Well, I didn't even know about it until

everyone goes about like America's a racist country, their racist history.

Holy shit.

Why is no one talking about Brazil's slavery?

Brazil had way more.

Brazil was like, I think they kept doing it for 20 years as well.

They were, it was huge.

And then everyone just acts like Brazil is a cool place to go by the beach and relax.

Which maybe it is.

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City of God is about the favelas in Brazil, in Rio, and it is, it makes, Eddie Bravo said this, that it makes Boys in the Hood looks like Sesame Street.

It really does.

Like, if you watch that movie, it's so violent and so crazy.

And apparently, when you talk to people from Brazil, particularly from the favelas, it's actually accurate.

Like, there were gangs of kids like this.

There were like young 10, 11-year-old kids committing murder every day.

They had guns, they were moving drugs and getting money and like young.

What time did our kids?

They still have it.

It's still an issue.

I mean, they've done their best to try to, like,

you know, the soldiers will, like, do raids into the favelas at times, especially when someone does something crazy.

I know I was saying positive things about slums before.

There's negative things to having slums as well.

I would just like there to be more

housing.

Yeah, housing would be good, but good housing would be better.

And there's enough money.

There's enough money to do that.

It's like you just have to

prioritize what are we spending money on.

I mean,

we shut Australia down for like two years.

No one was doing anything.

Yeah, you guys went nuts.

If you ever lead the world in something bad, that's, I think, a bad sign.

Once you have the longest lockdown.

What is it about Australians

as a culture that allowed them to be kind of ordered around like

we love rules?

Is that what it is?

I think about this a lot.

Because it's, I mean, like, like driving in America feels wild and free.

Like, no one's doing the speed limit.

If you do the speed limit on the freeway, it feels way more dangerous than going five over.

We have have cameras everywhere.

If you go one, two miles over the speed limit in Australia, you get a fine.

They've recorded you.

And we don't push back.

I have no idea why other than because people don't like it.

Overall, people don't want to go through the bureaucracy.

But maybe there's no, we have no like animating sense of freedom that people should be free.

It's like, I think if the motto here is, don't tread on me, we've got pull your fucking head in.

You hear that quite a lot.

Pull your head in.

Pull your head in.

What are y'all fucking doing?

Pull your fucking head in.

Like,

get in line.

Go with the flow.

Do what you're meant to do.

And for a while, I guess we were also prosperous for a long time.

And that worked.

If you just laid low and you did what you know, you went to school, you went to uni, the government's going to pay for you, uni.

You get a nice job.

You get a big, beautiful suburban family home.

Don't buck the system.

You don't have to do anything crazy.

And as that falls apart now,

which is falling apart quickly.

Rent's out of control, the inflation's so much worse.

The immigration is like,

it's silly.

Like, we're not building houses in line with that.

And so it's like,

a lot of comics are moving overseas.

Like, in a way that no one moved overseas.

When I was, for the first 10 years I was doing comedy, I think a couple guys went to the UK, and that was it.

And now Aaron Chen's here, Blake Freeman's here, Amos Gill's here.

What do you think is the big motivator to

what was the biggest thing that was a problem over there?

Post-COVID, I mean, COVID was, COVID radicalized a lot of people.

Is that what it was?

Just the kind of control they put down on you guys?

It was, and then the,

I mean, there's so much opportunity here.

People keep saying the cost of living is going up in America, and it is, but it's like, still,

it's wacky that eggs are only 370 or something.

That's so cheap for eggs for us.

Really?

Yeah.

How much are eggs over there?

More.

Substantial.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Like, how much?

Give me.

I don't know.

I'm buying free-range eggs because my wife insists on it.

But still, I think

if you did like a milk-to-milk, egg-to-egg, you'd dominate.

Interesting.

America has so far to go before it gets to be a revolutionary.

$14 a dozen.

Whoa.

$14 a dozen you guys pay for eggs?

That's crazy.

Oh, man.

If you've got coals and wool, I mean,

the dollar's a bit different.

So there's less opportunity.

Things are more expensive.

And also, there's, I mean...

But what about COVID radicalized a lot of people?

You got locked in your house for, I mean, it was literally in Melbourne.

We were in Melbourne when it kicked off.

My wife and I, and we had a newborn child, and she was pregnant with the next one.

And they said, we're locking everyone down for six weeks.

You can't leave your house.

And it was, we had better, not better, we had like stronger state-by-state regulation.

So if you moved back, we were from Adelaide in South Australia.

They said it was two weeks if you came from interstate.

So we just drove all night and got out, but then watched as people.

It's like a 300-day lockdown.

Jesus Christ.

You couldn't do it.

It was one of the only places you could do shows, was in Adelaide.

We did have a, I like Josh Stepps.

He seems great.

I saw him on here talk like about the, I think you confronted him about the concentration camps.

And it's like, yeah, we had camps where we concentrated people.

I don't know what else you meant to call that.

Yeah.

Yeah, we had a disagreement, too, about myocarditis.

And it was interesting.

It's like you would get all these different, now it's like firmly established as a higher risk of myocarditis for young people that took it.

But back then, it was really confusing.

And I was like, why did I read articles that said it was a higher risk?

And then he brought one up that said there was more of a risk of getting myocarditis from COVID itself, which really didn't make any sense even in the argument because back then we didn't know that it not only doesn't protect you from getting the virus, it doesn't even protect you from spreading the virus.

So you still get it.

So you still have a chance if that's true.

But it turns out when I talked to Dr.

Massim, Asim Mahatra, who is

He's a part of this whole Maha thing too, and he was another doctor that was initially pro-vaccine and eventually just realized there was a bunch of horseshit going on with all of it.

He said that's not what they measured.

They were measuring troponin levels.

They were measuring like what happens when you get sick and that those levels are higher in a viral infection.

And he was saying that that's not indicative of what true myocarditis is, which is an enlarging of the heart and a scarring of the heart tissue.

It's like it's a different thing they're looking for.

They're elevating the number of people that are getting it from COVID by doing it this way.

He was saying.

I can see why you like

it's hard to lose trust in the establishment.

Like you want to believe that the people running the medical side of things and who are setting all the rules have your interests at heart and you should listen to them.

Especially if you're in certain social circles, right?

So if you're in certain social circles where people are very pro-science and very logical and rational and they are all in agreement of one thing, you don't want to be cast out of that social circle.

You don't want to be thought of as being a fool.

And so you don't want to have any opinion that's opposing what is this consensus narrative amongst these people.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: It's also, I mean, it's nice to be in that group because you get to live in a world where the government cares about you and they know what they're doing.

And this politician in a suit...

Like, there was a...

Yeah, but you got into the...

The realm for personal expression of politicians was tiny for a long time because it was...

That's what you want.

Trump's blown this up, but I remember Howard Dean did a weird scream, and his career was up.

That's what it took back in the day to ruin your candidacy.

yeah well how about because they had to keep that illusion going that like these are very competent people who will not make a weird noise at the wrong time oh for sure that was all they would need to latch onto and then they would like throw it in everybody's face it would be all over the news and it would be over yeah there was no internet you know what a i mean isn't that a nice world to

that world like that 50s world of like ah you can we've got a man in a white coat and he knows what's up you don't have to do all the it's taxing to try and figure out how disease works oh it's yeah it's not fun.

It's not fun to not trust anyone and always want to read like hundreds of different articles on any complex subject to try to get an understanding of who's telling the truth and who's not.

It's a pain in the ass.

And the cost for getting it wrong is in order.

Like if you get 19 things right and one thing wrong, they just go, you're a fucking idiot.

Oh, 100%.

Yeah.

But I think the key is like you have to say why you got it wrong and then

express yourself.

Like I get things wrong, but I'll tell you why I got it wrong and then I won't lie, and I'll tell you what I know now.

So, if I know now that something's different than what I thought, I definitely always say it.

And I always say, I was wrong about this, and this is why.

I was like, get it out.

You got to get it out because it's important.

Like, the whole thing is, we're trying to figure out what the fuck is actually going on.

And when you're looking at like really complex, like, you get into something like the Kennedy assassination,

which is one of the big ones in this country, because there's a lot of people like, oh, let it go, let it go.

And then there's a lot of other people who go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this shows you how they did it in 1963, and they've evolved.

And anything that's alive, that's still a part of the systems are all still there.

Yeah.

For sure, they're just way better at doing that.

And they've learned how to not use a magic bullet and, you know, not fucking, you know, the grassy knoll and not kill all the witnesses.

You know, they learned how to do stuff.

Some of them get a lot better.

So it's like...

So Jack Ruby

kills, I'm going to get a lot of this wrong.

Lee Harvey Oswald.

Jack Kennedy kills Lee Harvey Oswald.

We have a photo of it right out there, right the moment he's shooting us.

But then when he's under arrest, there are like two journalists who come and interview him.

And I think one of them kills him.

I'm like, Jolly West.

Jolly West, the head of the MK Ultra program.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jolly West visits him and he goes insane.

He'd never had any history of mental illness.

Jolly West

sees Jews burning in hell and he's going crazy.

He's hiding because he was a Jewish man.

So he thought they were coming for him.

He's hiding underneath the fucking bench.

He was screaming.

He went

completely.

They dosed him with acid, man.

Yeah.

This is the MK Ultra people.

I think a journalist who talked to him before he died got killed by some sort of gay karate chop.

A gay karate chop.

It was like a gay journalist, and then he took a huge man.

Took a man home in the ass.

You chop him in the ass.

I think he took a man home for a sexual encounter, and then he was karate chopped to death.

I think that's the official explanation.

It's a very rare thing to karate chop a man to death.

That's a weird choice.

It was the 60s.

It was cool whether it was karate chopped somebody.

Why did they know it was a karate chop unless they have a video?

I think that's the medical examiner, Sid.

Oh.

Karate Chop.

Okay, that medical examiner doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about.

It probably just stomped him.

Well, do you think...

Well, who's the Manson family?

The Manson.

Yes.

He was dosed with some sort of.

Oh, 100%.

And I'm sorry if you've heard this before, ladies and gentlemen, but the book Chaos by Tom O'Neill is amazing.

Amazing.

He's Greg Fitzsimmons' old neighbor.

So Greg, who's at the mothership this weekend, who's awesome, one of my best friends.

And I've been friends with him.

I started doing comedy with him one week apart when we did Open Mike Night.

Is he a Boston guy as well?

Yes.

Known him forever.

He's awesome.

So, he, and hilarious comic, too, but I think it's all sold out.

But he was next door to this guy, and this guy was a journalist, super nice guy.

They became friends.

He's saying, I'm writing this thing about Manson.

It was supposed to be for a magazine.

It was supposed to be like the 25th anniversary of the Manson family killings.

But he starts finding all these inconsistencies, and he keeps going further and further down the rabbit trap, and he thinks the prosecutor's full of shit and there's some sort of a connection to the government.

He's like, what the fuck is going on here?

So he doesn't meet the deadline.

So he keeps going.

And so then he gets a book deal.

And it's going on and on and on and on and on.

For 20 fucking years.

For 20 years, this guy studies nothing but the Manson case.

He's got stacks and boxes.

He's been interviewing people.

And then he puts together this book with help.

He had to get someone to help him organize it because he was so deep in the weeds.

He's got enough for another book.

I mean, a pure obsessive, but a brilliant guy.

And this book, Chaos, it outlines all of the MK Ultra involvement in the Manson family and all the different things that they were doing at the time with the CIA mind control experiment.

So they were running brothels.

Which they did definitely seem to have.

100%.

Yeah.

All 100% real.

What do you know about this lady?

Dorothy Kilgallen, reporter cloaked in controversy.

I'd say read this.

Okay, Dorothy Kilgallen is best known for a column, The Voice of Broadway, in the New York Evening Journal, which was published in over 140 papers, and for her role as the game show panelist of the 1950s television program, What's My Line?

She was hailed by the post as being the most powerful female voice in America.

Kil Gallen spent a vast majority of her career cloaked in controversy, most notably surrounding her investigative work into the John F.

Kennedy assassination.

As a longtime skeptic of the Warren Commission, a study conducted by the United States government into who killed JFK, as well as who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, well, we know who killed Lee Harvey Oswald.

JFK's supposed assassin, Kilgallen, dove deep into the controversy.

Some may even argue too deep.

Kilgallen was under suspicion that Oswald did not commit his crimes alone and published several articles reflecting this belief.

Jack Ruby, who allegedly killed Lee Harvey Oswald on November 24, 1963, was only interviewed by one reporter throughout the trial, Dorothy Kilgallen.

Since her interview with Ruby, many noted that Kilgallen carried a file with her at all times.

It remained under lock and and key when not physically in her hands, according to those close to her.

Kill Gallen's file continued to grow throughout the investigation.

In a conversation with her lawyer, Jim Garrison, prior to, that's the guy who prosecuted,

that was in the movie,

Kevin Costner played him in

the JFK movie.

Yeah.

Prior to a trip to New Orleans with Dorothy later inexplicably canceled, he remembers her saying, I'm going to break the real story and have the biggest scoop of the century.

Kil Gallen's first trip to New Orleans was planned two weeks prior to her death when her husband, Richard Colmar, found her with files missing by her hairdresser in a bedroom she never slept in, dressed in clothes she would never wear to bed, reading a book she had finished and disliked, wearing glasses she didn't need for reading.

Initial autopsy report, a Brooklyn medical office, as opposed to the office in Manhattan where she lived, found her cause of death to to be a lethal combination of alcohol and barbituits.

The report later amended to note that the barbituate originally found seccanol, a sleeping pill for which she had been prescribed, was in fact a combination of

tuinol and nembutol, which she did not have access to.

Although her death was eventually ruled a suicide, Kilgallen's husband noted that when she returned from a taping of What's My Line early that evening, she appeared chipper.

Well, a lot of people do seem chipper before they got this.

Well, they decided.

Yeah, a researcher by the name of Mark Shaw, who investigated Kilgallen's death, found that she was under surveillance by the FBI through the Freedom of Information Act.

Friends of Kilgallen recall her expressing fear for her life leading up to her death, and she supposedly even purchased a gun, a rather uncharacteristic thing for her to.

Yeah, they whacked her.

Yeah, they whacked her.

Yeah, they've got to finish releasing.

In a recent release of the JFK files on October 26, 2017, a file entitled Dorothy Kilgallen by Richard Nixon was released, but its contents remain sealed due to reasons of national security.

They whacked her.

Yeah, was there a gay karate chop, or did I make that up?

I didn't see that part.

They whacked her.

They whacked her.

It seems likely.

Yeah, she was digging into the investigation.

Look,

you know,

when you talk to, like, I talked to Oliver Stone about it multiple times, and Oliver Stone, despite his advanced age, is still brilliant.

And his recall is incredible.

His recall on the assassination, he's obsessed with that assassination.

So he can tell you, like, who was involved and who did this, and Alan Dulles, and this and that, and the Warren Commission report.

And then it goes back.

The rabbit hole just goes so deep.

It goes all the way.

It goes all the way to Richard Nixon.

Because it goes all the way to Gerald Ford, who was on the Warren Commission's report.

And when they kicked Spiru Agnew out, they they got Spiru Agnew on corruption.

They kicked him out.

They put in Gerald Ford.

Then they kicked Richard Nixon out

with the Watergate thing, which I always thought was Richard Nixon got caught being a crook.

No, it was a...

He was not a crook.

It was an intelligence agency plot.

The whole thing was Tucker Carlson lays it out.

Yeah.

The Nixon reputation is starting to come back.

Well, you know.

People are starting to love Nixon again.

There's a lot of

stuff stuff that he did that's not good.

Jim Coathy decided to write a book about the assassination of John F.

Kennedy.

However, he died on the 21st of September 1964.

Oh, there we go.

It seemed that a man broke into his Dallas apartment and killed him by a karate chop to the throat.

That could happen to anybody.

That's a real thing that happens all the time.

This is the thing.

How do they know they didn't just strangle him to the throat?

Like, if you have damage to your throat, if you don't see the guy karate chopping him.

Well, it does seem like a weird flourish for the secret police to put in.

But that's like one of those things things that you would say.

Cothy just, oh, it seemed like a man broke in his apartment.

Tom Howard died of a heart attack, age 48, 1965.

Who's Tom Howard?

I don't know.

Oh.

Attorney.

Oh, his attorney.

Okay.

They both visited Jack Ruby in jail.

Okay.

And they both died.

They definitely could give you a heart attack.

They definitely could give you a heart attack.

And they also searched his apartment.

The karate chops.

Karate chip doesn't have a lot of attacks.

I really always held on to karate chop.

That's the one detail that really stayed with me through the years.

Are you sure?

You can't tell.

I've seen so many guys get beat up, and you can never tell what hit them.

It could have been a very long bruise across the throat, a big forearm.

Shin, shin to the neck.

Easy.

People didn't have that sort of kicking ability.

Sure, they didn't.

In the West at that time?

Sure, some people did.

Yeah, there was people that trained.

Like an assassin.

If you were going to be an assassin, you would learn Muay Thai.

There was like legit Muay Thai.

You could also have a knife.

Yeah, yeah.

You could also have a...

But if you wanted to make it look like it was like a...

That was a bachelor flat.

Is that why I thought it was some sort of

cause of death asphyxiation from a broken bone at the base of his neck?

Apparently, the result of a karate chop.

You know, I'm suspicious.

I think they probably thought of it as a karate chop because this is how people thought back then.

But I would imagine that was like a baton on the neck where you choke a guy to death.

There was a time, I know in Austin Powers, karate chop is like a cool thing.

Early 60s, people just fan ahead about karate.

The other guy was accidentally shot by the police a few hours before we got to the bottom.

That can happen.

That can happen.

Jesus Christ, man.

When you read stories like this, like if you're not a conspiracy theorist, you're like...

Yeah, it was the karate chop that made me think it was something had gone wrong.

Karate chop's the only thing that drew me in.

I was happily signing up with the rest of the official narrative.

Dude, I've seen a lot of guys get karate chopped in the neck.

They're all fine?

None of them died.

My dad is like a big...

That's not what breaks your neck.

My dad really, like, he really believes the JFK assassination happened the way they said it did.

And

he made a whole trip of it to Dallas and he went up to the building.

He was like, he could have done it.

He could have done it from here.

Well, here's the thing.

So I've never really dug into it.

But here's the thing.

He could have shot JFK in the head from the book depository.

Anybody who says any different has never shot a rifle.

It wasn't that far.

It was, I think it was 140 yards.

If you have a scope and you have an accurate rifle, 140 yards is not a long shot.

And if you have practiced and you know how it's going to go down and you're prepared, you're going to know exactly where he's going to be.

You're going to have the crosshair on him.

You pull the trigger, you hit him in the head.

And you might be able to get off a couple of shots.

And some people have been able to recreate the three shots.

And they think that he got off three shots.

And that's impossible.

They recreate it?

Yeah, people have done it.

They like closed down Central Dallas.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They shot off three rounds from a Carkano rifle in that same period of time.

They didn't do it there.

Yeah.

But they did it.

It showed, look, you can shoot three times in the amount of time that it took you to drive.

But this is the problem with any conspiracy theory is that, like...

Well, you got to look at all of it out of the way.

There are a bunch of things that don't.

There are like a thousand conspiracy theories about JFK.

And some of them are nuts, but then some of them hold up.

That was my point, though, is that that is undeniable.

But it's also undeniable there was a lot of people that reported that they heard gunshots from the grassy knoll.

There's also the whole magic bullet theory, which is total horseshit.

That's the most horseshit theory that's ever been promoted.

That there was like an ice bullet that dissolved inside of.

No, do you know the magic ball theory?

One bullet caused a whole ton of injuries in

the end.

No, this is what they had to do.

Okay.

There was a guy that got shot in the underpass.

Yes.

So there was an underpass and a ricochet hit the granite, the curbstone, and he got hit in the head.

So he got fucked up and he had to go to the hospital.

And then they found the impact and they found the bullet.

So they knew that this accounted for one of the shots that it missed.

So then they had to account for two different entry holes on Kennedy

and

entry hole in Connolly.

So Connolly was shot in the wrist.

So they had in the thigh as well.

So you had to say that one bullet did all this damage in both people, and then there was the headshot.

Yeah.

Because you have the third bullet.

So they came up with one wacky theory and they found this bullet in pristine condition on the gurney when they went to visit in the hospital.

So when they had JFK's Gurney in the hospital,

they magically found this pristine bullet.

This is like when the passports fall out of the plane on 9-11.

Yeah.

Almost as ridiculous.

But this one is so ridiculous because you have the physical evidence of the bullet, which is impossible.

It's impossible for a bullet to shatter bone, go through two different people, leave more residue, like more bullet fragments were in

Connolly's wrist than were missing from that bullet.

That's just fine.

That bullet.

That bullet supposedly went through two different people, shattered bone on both of them.

That's a special bullet.

As a person who's shot guns before, that's horseshit.

That's not what happens when a bullet hits bone.

So it's supposed to have gone through his back.

This is the official bullet.

He exits out his tie hole.

Yeah, like right where his tie knot is, goes into Connolly's wrist and then goes into his thigh, shatters his wrist, leaves fragments in his wrist, the wound left in the thigh, and then they find this magical, perfect bullet, pristine condition on the gurney in the hospital.

I mean, it seems weird.

Was it Connolly's Gurney that they found it on or JFK's?

I might have got it wrong.

It might have been Connolly's Gurney that they found the bullet on.

But either way, listen to me.

Shut the fuck up.

No, look, I usually stop at this point

because I don't want it to happen.

Anybody who says

that's what happened, shut the fuck up.

Then there's also the problem of the bullet hole in his neck.

Now, they're trying to attribute that as an exit wound, but the thing is,

there's two different autopsies.

There's the autopsy from Dallas, and then there was the autopsy from Bethesda, Maryland.

And the discrepancy was the one in Bethesda, Maryland, I believe, called it a tracheotomy scar or tracheotomy cut.

Okay.

So like they opened him up to put a trach in.

The only reason why they would do that is they don't want to attribute that to to a bullet that hit him in the front of the neck.

I think there was a bunch of different people that were trying to figure out how do we make it so that it was only this one guy.

And Lee Harvey Oswald might have pulled the trigger.

He might have been a part of it.

He does kill the policeman later, right?

I believe so.

I believe they, they, most people believe he did that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And well, he all, he already knew that he was on the run at that point in time, right?

And then when he gets arrested, he says, I'm a Patsy.

I'm a Patsy.

Okay.

Maybe.

Maybe, maybe he was involved.

Maybe he didn't pull the trigger.

Maybe somebody else who was a real expert marksman.

Because

he wasn't that good.

People say he wasn't a good marksman, but let me tell you something.

He had been, he was like, damn, great at the mouse.

Yeah,

but here's the thing about shooting rifles.

All right.

When you're talking about like 500 yards, you're talking about really long shots where you're required to be prone and lay perfectly still.

Yeah.

Yes.

I would say you really want to be an elite marksman to do that.

And there's a lot of technique involved and training.

And they're very meticulous about their preparation their breath work and it's like a very intense thing because you can't move at all you have to be like so precise but 140 yards is not far it's not that far it's like with the trump thing they said a child could have done it

when if he had a scope that kid didn't have a scope see the trump thing was fucked because that guy was using iron sights so iron sights are that's what it's like standard they don't you can adjust them slightly but like towards your side the closer to the shooter there are like two posts and at the end there's one post And

the scoop from the upper post, it lines in.

He did have a scope.

Yeah.

Oh, so why, why did they say that he didn't forever?

I don't know.

I mean, I'll say, like, down here.

But there was a photograph of it.

So this photo down the corner with my cursor doesn't have a scope?

Right.

This is from the FBI.

Okay.

But here's the thing.

I'm pretty sure there was a photograph of it laying on the roof, and it didn't have a scope.

And this is why, and this is not my theory.

theory, this is all the people that I know that are in like the tactical world that have talked to me about this.

They were saying that he had iron sights.

See if you can find it, if they show a photo of the actual rifle.

And then there's just nothing about this that's come out since then.

So

if he had a scope, that's even crazier that he missed,

because that's a chip shot.

It's not a hard shot.

You're 140 yards.

You have an accurate rifle.

So let's see.

Scoom bid on that?

It kind of does look like it has a scope.

It's hard to see.

Can I go back to that again?

A lot of these pictures from the just talking of it, though, are using a picture of a gun without a scope to confuse people too.

How did they?

Hmm, interesting.

Okay, so it's hard to tell, but go to the top one again and make that larger.

Looks like this one?

No, the one that's on the right-hand side.

Okay, okay, that looks a little bit like a scope to me.

There's something above the barrel at the middle point of the gun.

It doesn't look flat.

It looks like there might be a scope.

Okay, which is even crazier that he missed then because this guy is shooting from a very close distance, but he probably fucking panicked.

He's a 20-year-old.

He turns his head just at the right.

It's the miraculous hits.

Yeah.

But the thing is, that's not an expert marksman.

He did train a lot, though.

That was the other thing.

Like, there's a lot of people that trained in firearms with that kid.

So they knew that someone either told him to do that or he was preparing by himself to do that.

Why has nothing come out about it?

Bro.

You would think.

Because I think that MK Ultra shit keeps going.

I think that it's like that Aerosmith song.

Train kept a rolling all night long.

I think it just keeps going.

I don't think they stopped.

I think someone, whether it's our government or another government or some giant business interest, someone probably talked that kid into doing that, gave him the resources.

He had five different phones.

His entire home.

His entire home was professionally scrubbed.

there was no silverware in his home when they searched his home.

I mean, it's weird that there wasn't more.

I know there was like a guy at the golf course, and there was like a third guy, maybe,

but the temperature in the country at that time was

no one was like actively coming out and begging.

The Dems weren't coming out and saying, someone's got to kill this guy.

But they were going, this is insane.

Yeah, but it might not just be the Dems.

This is what you have to understand.

It's probably business interests.

If you're in another country, okay,

and this guy's actively campaigning, saying that he's going to raise tariffs and he's going to call,

we're going to make China pay, we're going to make Russia pay, everyone's going to pay.

If you're in some

military-controlled country that's going to lose trillions of dollars because this guy's going to make everybody pay,

you might hire someone to do something.

Well, this is why he goes Vance immediately.

This is

what I put together is the theory.

Someone else must have done it, but you pick someone who seems scarier than you, right?

You go, well, if you kill me, you get him.

Do you think Vance is scary?

I think at the time, he seemed like the furthest right protectionist candidate that Trump could have picked from on the VP list.

I don't think he really is, though.

I don't know what he is.

He's pretty reasonable when you have a real conversation with him.

He's definitely conservative.

He's pretty reasonable, but he's also like a no-nonsense, no-bullshit guy who is not ⁇ he doesn't lack in compassion.

But

he he was not the easiest

electorally.

There were other people he could have gone with who would have been.

He's young.

He's very religious.

You know, there's a lot of aspects of that that make people uncomfortable.

The young one is pretty big.

People don't want some young guy being the fucking president of the world.

Well, when was the last time it was like Kenny Roosevelt?

Kennedy was what?

He was like late 40s?

But he must have been around.

He was a known commodity.

He was handsome.

He was handsome.

He was pretty young.

He didn't look like an old leader.

He didn't look like Eisenhower.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

He didn't look like Ronald Reagan.

But he was the war.

And that added, like, when you go to the...

Have you been to the Fredericksburg Pacific War Museum?

No.

It's great.

It's a two-hour drive.

It's tremendous.

Yeah.

But, like,

they have a mural out back for all the presidents since that war.

And everyone's in World War II.

Like, it's not that America's looking for an old guy.

It's like

who it's everyone is somehow until like Clinton, everyone is a World War II vet.

Well, you got to think back then everybody signed up for the war.

Yeah, like but generationally America didn't want to move on from the World War II guys.

That was like a comforting

right, but it was also World War II was the last just war in their eyes.

Like we had to defeat the Nazis.

Yeah.

You know, we had to stop the takeover of evil in the world.

And then you got to the Vietnam War and it's like, wait, what's going on here?

This is not

well, there's a lot of people that would disagree with you.

You know, but Korea is also, you know, there's North Korea's fighting South Korea.

North Korea is communist.

But it doesn't have the same like, Korea doesn't occupy the same.

No, it doesn't have the same spot in people's heads.

And then, really, it's not one war that everyone's getting behind after that.

No.

No, there's not one.

And, you know, most people are real down on a war right now for good reasons.

You know,

it's like, are we fucking for real still doing this you know and this was one of the things that that trump campaigned on is no more wars yeah and that scares the shit out of people you know because then right away we're involved in this iran thing like okay

but you know

i'm so easily taken in like i was i was terrified i was like oh i don't want to be a war this is terrible and then as soon as the bombs are dropped and trump comes out and goes we're very strong i'm like oh yeah like i it's so easy to get whipped up into a fervor There's some truth to that, right?

And there's some truth to maybe it wouldn't be the best thing in the world if they developed a nuclear program and had nuclear weapons and used them on Israel.

But then, you know, you say, well, were they really close to doing that?

Well,

then you find out that Netanyahu has been saying they've been close to doing that for them.

For like 15 years, and Tulsi's saying they have no information on it.

Yeah.

But the thing is, like, what do we know?

You know, if they don't let inspectors in, what do we know?

Yeah.

You know, I mean, it would be good for America to have

a lot to pull together over something.

Someone sent me the, like that Reagan, towards the end of his term, just kept giving speeches about how he wanted there to be an alien invasion.

Yes.

And he said, if only there was some alien force that we could all get together again against the aliens.

Yeah.

But it is, that seems like America's ready for that.

Some coming together.

I can see that if you were in charge and you wanted to have civil unity, you would want there to be something like a war

to pull people back together.

I think there's a lot of value in having no civil unity.

I think there's a lot of value in keeping us at each other's throats.

This is what I always try to tell people most of us are in the middle.

Most of us,

especially after you get to a certain age, you realize, a lot of fucking things that people do, it's because, you know, they're allowed to do it, and it's stupid, and it fucks their life up, and maybe you should get your shit together.

Also, there's a lot of poor people that need help, and the idea that you're going to cut that off from them is kind of fucked up and uncharitable and un-American.

Yeah.

But also, there's people that take advantage of those programs and they stay in them forever and it kind of fucks up the whole community and that's true too.

Okay, so how do you set the standards and what do you do and how do you do it?

But most people

socially are very much in the middle.

Like most people want gay rights and civil rights and women's rights and trans rights.

We want rights.

We want everybody to be free.

We want everybody to be rights here.

But rights.

No, you just chuck the word rights on something.

Rights are important.

Like people say abortion rights, and then people say gun rights.

Yeah.

That's how you know if the media is in favor of that thing or not.

If they say rights, then they go, this should be.

Like abortion rights were confected in Roe v.

Wade.

They just...

It didn't exist beforehand.

They said there was a...

I mean, maybe people can pass that.

People can legislatively have abortion on the books, but that's not what happened.

The Supreme Court just said, we infer that there's a right to privacy somewhere in the Constitution.

We're not going to be clear about where that is.

And so the judiciary can just make it happen.

Well, that's how it got overturned, right?

Yeah, because what can be done by the judiciary can be overturned by the judiciary.

But there's heaps of stuff in America that just like the Supreme Court decided it was going to happen.

No one came in it.

Like gay marriage was just a Supreme Court

thing.

They just.

I think that's kind of also the will of the people.

Like most people are like, let them be married.

Like, what's the problem?

Like, how does that fuck with your life?

But like, California votes it in and then votes it out again, right?

Well, here's what's hilarious.

Up until 2013, Hillary Clinton was openly stating, I don't think Barack Obama.

I think he said he was against it for the first time.

Yeah, I think it was 2013 where Hillary finally said she was in favor of gay marriage.

But they used to always, like, have you ever seen those videos of Hillary being more MAGA than Trump about the border?

I believe it.

Oh, my God.

She would be queen MAGA.

She would have a diamond-encrusted Make America Great Again hat.

She would be the president if she was running today.

And I'm not bullshitting.

I am not.

I think there was.

I'm 100% not bullshitting.

I think it's a Sam Talent bit.

I don't know if he's still doing it, but he was going like, if Kamala had come out and said the word retarded, she would have won.

That's all she had to do.

Sam Talent's funny.

But he...

Yeah, there was...

I mean, the Dems were always against the.

Like, the progressive wing takes over.

The woke thing happens at some point.

But, like, Biden was out saying, super predators.

Bro, the Democrats were the ones who wanted to keep slavery.

Some of them.

The Southern Democrats.

Okay.

But understand.

Yeah, yeah.

That the Republicans are the ones that were trying to free the slaves.

It's like things just get weird and get reversed.

So now the Democrats are anti-free speech if it's hate speech

and disinformation and misinformation and malinformation.

All right, this is the Castro speech that I'm making into in a big way.

This is Castro.

So they ban it.

The revolution takes over in Cuba.

They ban a film.

They haven't had to ban a film up to that point, but they banned the first film.

And Castro comes and gives like a two-hour speech to the intellectuals explaining why they're going to start banning movies what was the film it was called pm it was a it was just a film about like poor black people having a good time it doesn't seem like there's a lot of uh political content in the movie but he gives this like it's this long beautiful like

two three thousand words up the top going i'm listening to you and you're listening to me and isn't that great that we have a conversation and then just out of nowhere he goes The revolution's in control and your freedoms are not.

You don't have a right to make whatever film film you want.

We're going to decide.

And people are clapping and going for it.

But if you like, if you take revolution and sub that out for progress or safety or anti-racism, people would totally get behind that.

Yes.

And this is what everyone who's been sounding the horn, you know, including guys like Konstantin Kisson from Trigonometry and Jordan Peterson and people that understand the history of Marxism.

They're like, this is how it always comes.

It comes in the guise of doing the greater good for the people and letting the state control things.

This is what happened in North Korea.

That's how they all lost their farms.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But they come in and then they it's centralized power and then everybody has to shut the fuck up because that's how people operate.

I think from a ma, like if you have a materialist worldview of the universe, that makes sense.

I can see how you would you would get there.

Like it's a weird thing to say God has given you a right to express yourself and to hang out with who you want.

This is like a we this is this is why it has to be in the declar what is it it's either in the declaration or the constitution, but like these are God-given rights and they're self-evident.

Because you would know if you were designing a utopia, which is what every revolutionary wants to do, you're saying we're fixing society, we're fixing human nature.

There's nothing that would intrinsically make you say people have a right to say whatever they want.

Like, that has to come from somewhere.

That's like a, that's a weird, it's beautiful.

I love it.

It has to come from somewhere.

I try and live my.

It comes from being under the brutal heel of a dictator for the entire country.

But then as soon as they have a revolution, they take that away.

You use the weapon of your master.

The revolutionaries, having been under Batista and oppressed and not allowed to say what they want, they come to power and they go, yeah, we're going to be doing that now.

That's what the guy in power gets to do.

But to say the state is ceding that, this is like a beautiful, strange

mystical outside world.

Yes, this is.

But isn't there a difference between taking over an existing country like Cuba that had been around for a long time?

Yeah.

A communist regime taking over versus the establishment of a place like the United States, which is an exercise

like an experiment, really, in self-government that had never been achieved before.

And it's not a coincidence that it's the newest country in terms of like superpowers, and yet it's the one that's achieved the most in terms of cultural impact, artistic impact, intellectual impact.

It's a hard argument that the United States hasn't achieved more than anybody.

I mean, the fucking nuclear bomb was created here.

You know, shut your mouth, right?

So allegedly, we went to the moon.

I don't think we did.

But allegedly, we went to the moon.

Are you back on the moon?

Yeah, I don't think we did.

I think we did.

But, you know, also a lot of assassinations, a lot of like overturning governments in other countries, a lot of shit.

Yeah.

It's not good.

But the point is, like, this is the most free place, and the most shit gets done.

I mean, I don't disagree with that at all.

And I think this is the progress that the human civilization goes through.

It realizes that suppression ultimately is bad for everybody.

It's bad for GDP, bad for like,

it's bad for patriotism.

It's bad for everything.

It's bad for people's appreciation of each other.

It's hard to govern when people are fucking angry.

And then the break-off civilizations always seek more freedom.

Yeah.

You know, I think we've got to try one more time with Greenland.

Give it a go.

I think if Trump takes Greenland and global warming is real, that's the spot.

Well, Canada might have to become a state, and then there's a lot of good land up there.

I have a friend who went up to Greenland and went stag hunting or caribou hunting.

They hunt caribou in Greenland.

It was beautiful, man.

The area they were at was fucking gorgeous.

It was incredible.

It was like these

insane hills and these herd of caribou come through, and there's just so many caribou.

It's so beautiful.

Yeah.

It's so clean.

They're just camping.

They're just sleeping.

They get a Chick-fil-A up there.

No, fuck a Chick-fil-A.

Get a freeway and a Chick-fil-A.

You ever have caribou?

No, I can't compete with Chick-fil-A.

Chick-fil-A is very, you don't know what you're talking about.

I don't know.

I've never had caribou.

All right, I want to go back.

This thing of like, yeah, America's done a great deal.

It's very free.

But the rate of change in the culture is also unparalleled.

Like, you look at the Egyptians, and they're doing the same pictures for thousands of years.

The feet all point in the same way, and we don't mess with the artistic style.

Or, like, the medieval era, there's like a, there's a homogeneity through time and a culture that gets passed on.

If you look at America over the last 70 years, it's wacky.

Like,

a couple nights ago, I was, I was watching like the number one song in America consecutively on YouTube.

So, like, they play 20 seconds from that number one song, and then the next number one song.

And early on, it's all like guys in suits going, my baby, she's so beautiful.

beautiful, I love her, I'm going to take her to a dance.

And then by the end, it's like, you know, I'm a fist your ass and kill someone with my rifle.

Like, it's

there's a huge shift, like all the institutions are ostensibly the same.

The way people vote, the way people go to school, the actual culture that's inhabiting all those things is like radically changing all the time.

All the time, yeah.

And there's a bunch of different factors, right?

So you have the 1950s factor, you know, which was like Elvis on television and Buddy Holly and all these people.

Then the drugs come in and then the drugs come in.

And so they were probably doing drugs back then, too, but just probably not the good ones.

And then the 1960s, psychedelics.

So the 1960s, you get Hendrix, you know, you get the doors.

You get

when the Beatles and the Doors and the Stones come through.

It's like, here are the first cool people ever.

First cool people ever.

And so then that all dries up when they pass the laws in the 1970s through the Nixon administration to kill the civil rights movement and to kill the anti-war movement, make everything illegal.

Then you get the cocaine era.

So, cocaine ruins music.

The 1980s was like, there's some great music in the 80s, but there's a lot of

horseshit in the 80s, too.

There's still brilliant artists.

There's always going to be brilliant artists, but there's a lack of that psychedelic progression that Hendrix.

It definitely shifts into a weird

everything gets weird.

Yeah.

By the 80s, late 80s, they figured it out.

They figured out how to appropriate the counterculture thing and put a corporate look on it.

Well, it was cocaine.

They killed the psychedelics and it entered into an area of cocaine.

Like, you see movies get real weird.

Like, a lot of movies are like, like, real stupid.

Like, they don't make any sense.

They're dumb as shit.

And then you go back to like 1963 and you see the hustler.

And you say, well, okay, why were they so good back then?

Why were so many of these movies so

it's late 20s?

Yeah.

Early Frank Capra just watches like a normal modern film.

Yeah, there's some great movies, man.

When you started comedy, this is the early 90s?

88.

88.

88.

So there would have been a period, like, it seems like cocaine was big in American comedy circles for a time.

Oh, it was big, man.

It retreated.

Yeah.

But it disappeared at a certain...

It doesn't disappear everywhere.

There's some places that are still, they love the Coke.

I don't run into active drug addicts very often.

Well,

people earn cocaine.

They don't last.

The weed comics last.

The fucking Coke comics don't last.

Heroin people keep going.

Well, until they don't.

Yeah, but the red hot chili peppers look great.

They've been preserved.

I think they're clean.

I think they're clean for a long time.

I think they did back in from time to time.

You think so?

I don't know.

I think after, by the way, I think they.

But they were a heroin band for ages.

Yeah.

Iggy Pop.

I don't know if he's still on heroin, but he's looking.

Oh, he's terrible.

Poor Iggy.

He looks so but he looked that way 30 years ago.

He's like Alice Cooper.

He looked like a world old man.

But he looked old 30 years ago, but he had like, he was lean and he moved around on stage with his shirt off, but now he looks like he can barely walk.

Yeah, it's like something's wrong with his.

Did you see the ACDC

one that was like last week?

You got to see Iggy Pop first.

How bad?

I saw Iggy Pop like 10 years ago, and he was great.

He's great.

No, dude, I had to kick a woman in a mush pit.

I was, he was dragging.

People were saying, come on stage, everybody.

One of my favorite green room songs is Passenger.

Yeah.

Fucking great song, man.

After the show?

I couldn't listen to Passenger before a show.

It'd be too sad.

Really?

Yeah.

All right.

I'm a passenger.

What's he look like now?

Is this 2023?

Yeah.

he's just good in the face.

No, no, like he's still killing it.

It's just he has a hard time getting around.

It looks like there's something wrong with his see, like, it does look like he's got spinal biffid in there.

I think he's got something wrong with his hip or something,

which is super common, especially for performers who dance around on stage a lot and go crazy.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, so he's having a hard time moving.

Still killing it.

But let me hear some of that.

Check out.

After that, bring up the ACDC at the moment.

It's very.

Okay, he's very old.

It's just.

He's still got something.

He's got it.

He's still Iggy Pop, but his body's struggling.

And like, I know a lot of guys, like Ted Nugent had to get both his knees replaced because he was jumping off amplifiers.

Yeah.

Maynard from Tool, he had to get his hip replaced.

His hip was fucked up.

That's why Neil Diamond had the right plan.

Just stand there.

Stand there.

Just sing your beautiful songs.

You can do that forever.

Yeah, it's a good move.

No, they all get.

It's hard, man.

You're bouncing around on a stage all the time and stomping the ground.

Like Anthony Keatis, his knee's all fucked up, man.

I went to see them.

This looks great.

He's great.

He killed it.

We went to see the chili peppers when they were in town.

And then afterwards, he's got an ISIS knee up real bad.

You know, he's still on stage stuff.

I don't notice it.

Every time someone says they don't like the chili peppers, I distrust them immediately.

Suck My Kiss is a fucking great.

That whole album is start to finish

with ACDC this year.

I think that one video we saw was

just kind of a weird thing.

Alright, there was one week.

He looks okay in this one.

It's 2025.

Yeah.

There was a viral video going around where they looked a little slow.

Nah, he's still got it.

I'll take it back.

But this is, I mean, if you were a classical composer, you just get to be old and wear your big powdered wig and and keep writing till you're 80 as a rock star.

A big part of it is that you're physically threatening and that women want to have sex with you, right?

Like, this is, this is.

Have you seen Mick Tiger's girlfriend?

Yes.

She's a beautiful...

Baby.

She's so hot.

She's so hot.

She's so hot, and she's like 30 or something like that.

And he's

thousand.

I got to meet Al Pacino's baby mama.

But you got to see the pictures of Mick with the girl.

With the lady?

Look at this.

Yeah, this is the one.

What's that?

This is the one that went viral.

But he's just stomping on stage.

No, it's the way he's saying oi.

Let me hear it.

ACDC urged to retire after recent concert footage goes viral.

Assholes.

Let me hear this.

He does seem tired.

I don't think he should have to retire, but.

probably still play a long set.

He probably still

That's our greatest export.

That's for sure.

We've never done anything that great before since.

Listen, guys get old, it's hard to come up with the full power always when you hit that age.

But what was the point?

Oh, Mick Jagger and his new girlfriend.

He's fly honey.

Oh, she's so hot.

And he's at least a million years old.

He...

How old is he?

Yeah, I got to see him like 10 years ago, and he seemed old then, but he was still grooving.

Oh, dude, I saw him in town as well.

I saw him at uh the circuit of the americas they did this gigantic outdoor concert it was incredible look at her

bam son what's up now

dude she's so hot

and she's like i can't believe i'm with mick jagger that's what talent does he seems happy as well he seems thrilled i would imagine that would make you happy

I mean, yeah, but then she's talking about a young woman things and you just want to read the Financial Times in peace.

I don't know, man.

Maybe that's why he's so good still.

Maybe he stays young.

He's still hyped.

They fucking killed it, man.

They killed it at Coda.

Hal Pacino.

She was backstage and I.

Another kid.

I got another one?

Yeah.

Another one?

I got dragged away when I met her because people thought I was going to ask weird stuff.

So this is a new gal?

Yeah.

Oh, boy.

He's 85.

Holy

He still looks good.

What do you want me to do?

She's got a great ass.

I mean, wow, she's hot.

It does start to look like you're.

Oh, they split.

I think that's the one I met.

That was the one that he split with, but he's got another one.

Wow.

Good for him.

He loves breeding.

He's still out there doing it.

Listen, don't give Elon shit.

Don't give him shit.

I just like it done the old-fashioned way.

I like the

Genghis Khan rooting his way across the steppe.

I fear.

Also, like, Elon's in public.

He's one of the only billionaires who allows himself to be seen and judged and thought about.

But if we had a list of the top 100 richest people in the world, we would know

eight of them.

Like, the hidden figures who are off doing that.

Well, the real richest people in the world are probably the oil builders.

The souths.

Yeah, because they don't even have to tell you how much money they have.

Yeah.

They're building an ice

tobogganing room in the desert.

Bro, they're building that

the line.

Have you seen that?

Like more

of a message that's going to be nice.

Maybe it will be.

They have so much money, they can make it nice.

Yeah.

Look what they did to Dubai.

You ever see the time-lapse photos of Dubai?

But they didn't even put.

You can't even go to the toilet in that in the Burj Khalifa.

What do you mean?

They didn't put like, it's so big, they couldn't get plumbing to work it.

So they have, like, trucks come along and pick up the poo from downstairs every day and have to drive it out.

Like, it seems like a fake.

Oh, that's an error.

Someone needs to be fired.

Somebody's probably killed.

Someone has been quietly chopped into pieces.

Oh, 100%, right?

They've got.

Because Because how are you going to fix that?

The Burj Khalif is like, how many stories?

It's too big.

And it's all buckets of shit being carried on.

I could be getting that wrong, but someone told me that they have

semi-trailers that come by in the morning.

Is it a hoax?

I take it back.

I got one wrong.

I was right about the foot binding.

I was right about.

We should probably edit that out so they don't kill you.

No, that's right.

Hey, I no, I love the kingdom of sound.

I'm a big fan.

I could be got on compromat so easily.

Send me a new car.

I'll say great things about the regime.

No one has come to me.

Not even someone selling dick pills or nothing.

I want to get to that later.

It's coming.

It's,

I don't see.

Come on, bro.

More appearances like this and it'll all happen.

I'll be doing gamble.

I'll be doing DraftKings.

Yeah, there you go.

I don't think I could.

I'm trying to figure out what companies I would have on my podcast and I wouldn't.

Do you gamble at all?

Yeah, but I don't like the companies.

I like, you know,

regular gambling.

Regular, but yeah, money for this.

It's ruined footy in Australia.

Everybody has it.

I think we're the, now I will be right on this.

Australia's the highest per capita gambling losses in the world.

Wow.

And we've been beat Singapore.

We shouldn't be beating the Asian countries.

Asians should have gambling down pat.

Is that because you don't have to raise foot in any other place?

I think so.

I think everything is so safe that it's like, I've got to lose everything on this.

You go crazy on that one thing.

That's the gambling thing.

Yeah.

Oh, no.

Because booze is expensive.

But then the way that they advertise on you, you always have to see the line.

You can't watch a game of football with someone because they don't just want their team to win anymore.

They want this guy to get 27 disposals and the second goal of the game.

It's like, just I want to watch footy.

But gambling is very exciting.

Yeah, there's a thing like that in MMA, too.

You know, it's a big factor in MMA.

I think if your guy gets, you know, he wins, but by submission, then you're upset because you didn't knock the other guy out and you lost money.

There's like the Drake thing, too, because Drake spent, he bets like the rapper Drake?

Big money on the UFC.

And did he bet on Charles Oliveira or Ilya Patulporia?

That was nutty.

Oh, my God.

I wish that.

Also,

that was the first one of those episodes.

Which since I met you.

He bet $200,000 on Charles.

Yeah, see?

They call it the Drake curse.

There's a website that's web he bets on CozDam.

Yeah, Drake has UFC betting history.

Returned $0.

Who is he?

He's not cursed when it comes to UFC overall, though.

He's up a million bucks.

Oh, all time from his public UFC bets, from his public ones.

Over 25 bets, he's wagered $13.45 million,

returning $14.48 million.

Yeah, but everyone has to be a bad one.

He's won 10 out of those 25 bets, losing 15 times.

You go public when you win.

Interesting.

It's a guy who comes back to the office on Monday and goes to the bottom of the page.

But look at that.

He's only won 40% of the time.

His average UFC bet size is 538K.

That's interesting, though, because he's only won 40% of the time.

He just bets big when he's sure.

And so he's ahead.

His biggest single loss was

Adesania to beat Alex Pereira in 22, the one that

Pereira won, the first one.

Single bet victory was John Jones over Cyril Gawn

successfully predicting John Jones to win by submission.

Interesting.

Hold on, but this is a whole website dedicated to it.

He could have set this out.

No.

No, it's commonly betrayed.

He's betting on cricket.

Yeah.

Why is he betting on cricket?

He likes to bet, dude.

He's rich as fans.

He's betting on the gets his jollies off like throwing large numbers at stuff.

He's got three bets on cricket, returning 2.65 mil.

So he's ahead.

Three for three.

So he knows what he's doing.

There you go.

He's making money.

Yeah, but you always bet on the royals in the cricket.

Well, if you're going to bet, though, betting on sports where you actually know the game, that's a smart thing to bet on.

Like, I bet if I bet on fighting,

I bet I'd be right 60% of the time.

You'd have a deal where they'd say, don't you dare?

Oh, no, you can't.

The UFC won't let you.

But that was only recent, man.

That was recent because there was an accusation that one of the trainers had been posting on some website and

that they knew that this guy was injured.

Yeah.

And the guy lost in the first round, and there's a bunch of money

on him losing in the first round because he had a blown-out knee.

I think there was a footy player in Australia who was betting on himself to kick goals, which was like you have to.

He was backing himself, and it was like $15 or something.

It was very small, but he just got in trouble for that?

He got in trouble for that.

Even though he was betting on himself.

He's bet on himself to do well.

I think if you bet on yourself to win, that should be legal.

I bet on the Eurovision Song Contest.

That's my go-to.

Fighters have made personal bets with each other.

Like, I'll bet you the next one.

I'm next.

Yeah, that makes it more exciting.

Yeah.

But there's definitely room for...

If there's room for someone to throw it, that's an issue.

That is an issue.

There's an issue with fighters.

Eurovision is a good bet.

If you found out that a fighter bet against himself, like, oh, God.

Or the trainer bet against the fighter, which has happened before.

That has happened before.

It was like anonymous back in the day, like in the old boxing days.

Like, people could throw fights and, you know, that shit happened all the time.

Was it on the waterfront?

That's why.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

Mylon Brando.

That also,

that has 100% happened in MMA, especially in Japan.

In Japan, in the early days, there was a lot of fixed fights.

And you could kind of tell some of them.

You watch them, you're like, oh, my God, it's fixed.

But it was

because a lot of the Japanese stars originally in Pride came from the world of pro wrestling.

Yes.

Where they had determined outcomes.

And so some of these guys were stars.

And there's a few fights that they had as stars where it was a fixed fight.

But like that Logan Paul Mike Tyson fight.

Yeah.

He could have knocked him out earlier and clearly was choosing not to.

I mean, he bows to him at the end.

It seemed to me like sparring.

Yeah.

When I watched it, which, which,

you know, look, I paid for it.

They got me.

I thought it was going to be a real fight, but I'm not mad because I'm just happy that Mike Tyson made a ton of money.

Yeah.

And I'm happy for Jake Paul that he made it.

And look, if he decided not to try to hurt Mike Tyson at 58 years old.

Sure.

But there's some guy out there who had a million dollars on it.

That's the problem.

That's why, look, maybe it was a real fight.

Maybe that's just the level that they both fight at.

But

it seemed a little sus.

I mean, also, we watched that in the green room, I think, and we couldn't get it couldn't get it going.

Yeah, but I think that you know, at the end of the day, it's okay.

It doesn't bother me.

It's a different - that's a different situation than someone like Terrence Crawford fighting Canelo Alvarez, and I don't think that that fight's legit.

If I saw that and I didn't think it was legit, I'd be furious.

Like, you guys are in your prime.

These are the best fighters on planet Earth.

We're finally going to get to see you guys box.

And then they, and you threw a fight, but that's not what's going on, you know?

Mike Tyson, Jake Paul was the most heavily wagered fight in years.

Okay, that's a problem.

That makes it a problem.

My opinion is, I just want to say, in case someone calls me into court, I'm a fucking idiot, and I don't know nothing.

And don't take my advice.

I love the Saudi government.

Don't take my opinion.

I love the Israeli government.

I love it.

That had nothing to do with them.

That was Jake Paul promoting it.

It doesn't bother me.

It's compromising the sport, and that's bad.

It's just like if I bet on it, watching it.

Watching it with people who are so in on it.

And then also the cut, like,

man, the sports betting apps, they've like they introduced like chat apps in them in Australia.

So it's like they're trying to take the place of social media companies where you go together and you meet your friends.

Like betting should be exciting enough without having a weird

money, right?

So they're trying to draw you in any way they can.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When I was first starting to work for the UFC, I bet.

I bet a bunch of times.

And then I thought, like, I probably shouldn't do this.

But I couldn't.

I i was thinking i was justifying in my head i was like i can't affect the outcome yeah it wasn't a wall there was no rule it doesn't matter how you're calling it it's not gonna i'm not gonna change and also like i like the fights and i'm not gonna bet that much anyway but then my business partner on it and i aubrey he he would bet on things i would tell him to bet on he was up like 80 at one time yeah because in the early days like in the early like 2000s-ish when they were bringing in guys from like japan and russia there was a lot of dudes that i I knew about that the bookmakers didn't know about.

Yeah.

You know, like where like, like when Anderson Silva came over to America, I was like, bet the house.

Bet everything on Anderson.

I mean, bet everything.

Because Chris Lieban, who's a great fighter, is tailor-made for that style.

And Anderson is one of the nastiest strikers that's ever competed in the sport.

He's so good and so accurate.

And he just ran through Chris Lieban in the first round.

I was like, called it.

Because there's certain fights where you go like, this guy's special.

Like, like Ilya Toporia.

Like, if Ilya Toporia is fighting a regular guy, like, bet the house on the Spaniard.

Bet the house.

Like, that guy's special.

There's like when Alex Pereira first came to the UFC, I was telling everybody, bet the house on the Brazilian.

I'm like, if he touches you, you go into orbit.

Yeah.

Like, he's just different.

This is a different guy.

And you just have to know about that before the bookies.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but people knew about Pereira sort of, but they didn't have a lot of evidence of him being that good in MMA.

They had one fight in the LFA.

There was another fight before that where he lost by submission.

I think maybe he had one other win, but it was the kickboxing.

So I'm a big kickboxing fan, and in kickboxing, he was a two-division world champion in glory, which is like the elite kickboxing league.

But the thing wasn't that he was winning, it was how he was winning.

Yeah.

He was flatlining people.

But you have to have actually watched the finals.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You have to also be able to critically analyze his movements.

They're just different.

He's just doing something.

He moves different than people.

And

when he hits guys, it's like, holy shit, man.

They can all knock each other out.

They're all elite fighters.

I watched that Oliveira fight, and

we were with

Nate's team

in San Jose.

Someone says, this man's, the man who knocked him out.

He's like, his punch is incredible.

No one knows this.

Like, within the, they were all saying, like, this is an easy anti-Oliveira is going to lose because of this man's and then when he hits him in the head you go because he knocks him out on the first punch and then catches him on the second and hits him twice after that.

But it's like if you just I don't know about fighting and then watching that I couldn't believe he was knocked out from it didn't look like it should have had that impact.

Oh, it should for sure.

Yeah, when you watch the punch being delivered in slow motion, it looks everything like a knockout punch.

He throws his punches with so much conviction.

There's so much torque and they're so perfect.

Like his whole body is coming in.

It's the coordination of the mechanics of his movements.

It's like that's a big part of, he also has very big fists, but that's a big part, especially for 145 and even in 155.

Like he's undersized compared to like guys like Rufi, who's like 6'2 ⁇ .

There's like some elite guys that are big in that weight class.

But the way he delivers his punches, it's like you just can't get hit by him, man.

He's got so much commitment and so the timing is so perfect.

When he went blam with that right hand.

Yeah.

That had everything on it.

No one's eaten that shot.

No one.

No one.

He's got what Ferasa Hobby likes to call the touch of death.

It's the perfect name for it.

It's because he hits guys.

They're just done, man.

They're done.

That seems like a lot of people.

He's got the greatest three-fight win streak in the history of the sport.

He knocks out Alexander Volkanovsky, Max Holloway, and then Charles Oliveira.

It's the greatest three-fight win streak in the history of the sport.

And Volkanovsky is currently the champ.

So he'll

do it.

He came back.

Well, that's at 45, though.

Okay.

So he went up to 55.

So Volkanovsky's the champ because he abandoned the belt at 45 because he wanted to pursue the belt at 55.

He didn't want to make weight at Ilya.

Didn't want to make 145 anymore.

So it felt like it's too draining for his body and he'd be even better at 55.

Turns out he was right.

He's even better at 55.

Charles Oliveira is really good, man.

Really good.

For him to starch him like that with essentially one punch is extraordinary.

But he called it, which is even crazier.

He said, I'm going to knock him out with one punch.

He's going to knock him out in the first round.

And he also, he had a celebration for his victory the night before the fight.

So they went to a restaurant.

He's standing on a bench.

They're cheering.

That is cool.

It worked.

I mean, listen, if you're that good.

And he's going to fight the Scouser?

The Scouser kept saying, Scassa kept going, I want him.

And then Nights Tim are going like, he thinks he wants him.

He doesn't want him.

It'll probably happen eventually because they hate each other and it'll be very marketable I don't know if it's gonna happen next this is my first year following it I'm starting that my brother watches it a lot there's a lot of really good guys at 155 though if you wanted to look if you wanted to do it according to like who deserves the shot it would be in my mind it would be either Justin Gaiti who is a very compelling argument for deserving the shot he was

the interim champion beat the shit he essentially like changed the progression of Tony Ferguson's career Like that one

just beat him down, man.

It was a brutal, brutal fight.

And then, you know, I mean, he's got so many victories.

He just beat Fazeev again after getting knocked out by Holloway.

He's one of the best of the best.

And, you know, he's fought for the title before.

He fought,

he fought

Khabib.

He's fucking really good, man.

But what would stop him?

And he's a big star, and he also deserves it.

The other guy would be Armand Saroukian.

Armand Saroukian was supposed to fight Islam for the title, but got a back injury supposedly because of the weight cut.

He had a particularly brutal weight cut and his back locked up to the point where he couldn't even fucking move.

And so they had to call the fight.

And so then they brought in Hanato Moikano and he fought for the title, like last-minute replacement.

So Sarukian is elite.

He's as good as he gets, and he could be a world champion.

And so if...

If I wanted to do it according to not marketability, but rather like who deserves it, it would be either Geiji or Sarguki.

How often does that come into it as opposed to the marketability?

I don't do that, man.

That's the thing.

It's like I'm not involved.

I would not be the right guy for the business.

Yeah.

Because

I'm kind of a purist.

I feel like if you're the number one contender, you get the shot.

That's how I feel.

But I also don't know if I agree who the number one contender is all the time.

I think that should be up for debate.

It's very subjective.

Who decides what victories count for more or who would be more compelling to fight for the title?

Who deserves it?

Like some guys have to fight a ton of guys.

And then other guys like Pereira, he got a shot at Adesanya just a few fights in.

Yeah.

But this is what then kills.

This hurts boxing is when you have a champ who just repeatedly takes on people that they can walk over to extend

victory.

But because the UFC is all

one thing.

The UFC makes you fight the big fights.

And if you don't want to fight the big fights, like John Jones didn't want to fight Tom Aspinall, like then they can strip him?

Well, he didn't strip him.

John just retired.

But I think John just decided to retire legitimately.

I think he's, you know, he's partying a lot.

He had a long career and he's the greatest of all time.

Like at a certain point in time, you have to say enough.

And at 37, as the heavyweight champion, retiring undefeated, that's probably a good move.

You know, he's got one loss, but it's a bullshit.

Have you seen those late Muhammad Ali interviews where he's going back?

He's going back again and people are begging him, you don't have to do this.

It's over.

It's fine that it's over.

You're the greatest.

That's fine.

He has not had any money, man.

How did he not have any money?

Because he got ripped off.

He got ripped off, man.

He got ripped off.

And a lot of these wild, impulsive dudes, they spend all their money.

Like, Tyson spent hundreds of millions.

Yeah.

He bought tigers and shit.

He was joking around about it.

He had Lamborghinis and Tigers and mansions.

He had a mansion in Ohio that he just abandoned.

And you could go, there was an online tour of this mansion.

And you can go

online.

Someone broke into the mansion took photos of it and everything there's a guy who did that with kanye's mansion in la recently there's an aussie he's written a book about john safran who's one of our best really yeah he wrote a book about trespassed he wrote a book about squatting in kanye's mansion he's like you could just come in through the shrubs out the back and i finished the book sitting in kanye's house he was always doing wild stuff he was uh he was a filmmaker he like ran naked through the streets of jerusalem i think jesus uh what else did he got crucified in the philippines crucified like on a a cross?

Yeah, like at Easter they they ritualistically drive nails through your hands, but they crucify people in the Philippines.

Yeah.

He did that?

He did that.

He went and got for the end for the season finale of one of his shows he got crucified in the Philippines.

Oh my God, what a fucking nut.

He's wild.

He's a very exciting.

What's his name?

John Safran.

Yeah, he is the man.

He sounds like he'd be a good podcast guest.

He stole a lot of Eurasian women's underpants to see if he liked the smell of them better.

Oh, fuck this guy.

Why?

He was stealing chicks' underwear.

No, and then he took other underpants that were not Eurasian to see if he was attracted to.

He stole his Eurasian friend's underpants.

Jewish Australian comedian journalist.

That's a lot.

Yeah.

Spent a week living in one of West's homes in Los Angeles.

As if Kanye didn't hate Jews enough.

Well, I've never heard him speak on this.

I've never heard him speak on John Stephen.

Isn't it kind of funny, though, that a Jewish guy is the guy who squatted in his house that he was a little bit more like a broken.

I think he was like.

Oh, that's hilarious.

No, he's wild.

He's hilarious.

Yeah, he was.

He was crazy.

Now he's writing writing books, but his documentary series were great.

He was in a show called Race Around the World, and everyone else would take it very seriously.

They had six aspiring filmmakers.

You know what the nuttiest spending of money was?

Was

Evander.

Evander Holyfield, who was the heavyweight champion of the world.

He made the biggest fucking house.

It was an insanely huge house.

And then I think he sold it to Rick Ross, the rapper.

But

the house is insane.

I don't know how much it cost.

I mean, I don't know how how much it costs.

I don't even want to guess, but it's the craziest house I've ever seen in my life.

It's like a house that you would say, if I'm the baddest motherfucker on earth, I want the baddest fucking house on earth.

Is he a Gypsy?

He's a Vander Holyfield.

I don't know.

You don't know who Vander Holyfield is?

Oh, my God.

One of the greatest heavyweights of all time.

Have you seen the Gypsy house?

He beat Mike Tyson.

Vander Holyfield beat Mike Tyson when he was

very little about it.

He knocked him out.

He stopped him.

And then he went and bought a.

And then Mike Tyson bit his ear off.

Oh, he was the earbuding guy.

The earbuding guy.

That was the second fight.

I did not bet the earbuding.

That was after Tyson beat him up in the first fight.

In the second fight, he bit his ear.

Was he losing the second fight?

Tyson was losing.

Okay, that's why he did that.

But

show a Vander Holyfield's house.

Look at this place.

Bro.

44,234 square feet and has 109 rooms.

It's actually very Tyson.

Including

135-seat theater, a bowling alley, and a dining room that accommodates 100 people.

Where is it?

So large, they named the highway on which it sits a Vander Holyfield Highway.

That's crazy.

I thought it would be bad.

No, no, no, no.

It's not that lovely.

No, it's gorgeous.

It cost

an estimated worth of $230 million

in 94.

What is that?

The wood paneling?

In 94.

Around that time, he had an estimate.

Oh, excuse me.

Around that time, he had an estimated worth of $230 million.

It's

an amazing house.

I mean, it's fucking spectacular.

And now Rick Ross, the rapper, lives there, which is like the perfect rapper house.

You got to spend it on.

But see if you can get photos of it.

Oh, it's gorgeous.

And it's a giant piece of land, too.

I think it's

105 acres.

See if you can set an image of it from the outside.

Yeah, there you go.

That one way you see.

Like, look at that.

It does look like the Georgia air.

If you're a Vander Holefield, that's the kind of house you want to live in when you're the baddest motherfucker alive.

Look at that place.

So beautiful.

I get hung up in the house.

There's Holyfield.

Yeah.

The yachts.

I like looking at the super yachts.

I look looking at Jeff Bezos super yachts.

Oh, they're nuts.

But this house is fucking incredible.

You'd feel so lonely.

Rick Ross bought buffaloes and shit.

You'd have your friends living there.

Yeah, but you gotta be there.

You got buffaloes?

You'd see them every

third day.

Oh, that's cool.

He's got his own buffaloes.

That is dope as fuck.

That's such a rapper move.

Have your own buffaloes on your property.

I love it.

Rick Ross, thanks his neighbors for helping him return his buffaloes.

Get out of Rick Ross.

His buffaloes are just hanging out.

They wandered over

helping him return his wander buffaloes.

He had to hire some cowboys to bring his fucking animals back home.

Yeah, no one needs to.

Why not?

Maybe I do need to.

Maybe you do.

Maybe if you become fucking huge and you start doing arenas in America and you develop an insane amount of money and all of a sudden you got giraffes at your house and

very hard to send anyone.

What the fuck?

I thought you weren't going to go full Rick Ross.

No, I mean, I would go.

I feel very lucky that I got the open for Shane and he lives very humbly.

Yeah.

And like Matt still drives his old car.

Oh, I'll be getting a big, fancy car.

You're going to go crazy.

I would like a roll through.

Shane lives humbly, but he's also got a Mercedes-ass class.

This is Mike Tyson's house that got abandoned.

Giant TV.

It looks like somebody broke it.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, it was abandoned for a long time, so they broke all the shit.

That's crazy.

So people just would break into his house when he wasn't there.

So did he just leave it there?

Or did he just...

Well, I mean, he probably was trying to sell it, and no one bought it, so that makes it abandoned, you know.

I think Michael Jordan's house he sold at a loss because of everything he'd done to it some guy just actually bought it and remake it in Airbnb He tried to take the shoe gate off he'd like the gate was a pair of Jordans or something that house was only worth 1.1 million.

That's how crazy after it's half forever That's a steal.

Oh after it's half forever

how much work you have to do to fix it back up bro if I lived in that town and I found out Mike Tyson's house is for sale I'd be like let's go there's been a lot of fentanyl Let's go you think so in Ohio

in the abandoned mansion

mansion Yeah, but I'll just use some sage.

I'll clear that out of there.

Someone did sage last night backstage.

He left in 90s.

There was an odor backstage last night, and I came off stage.

Someone had burned sage.

Yeah, the guy working security said we burned sage.

I didn't know there was a big sage ball.

Someone evil in the room?

I think someone might have just,

I won't name who it was, but someone might have left a terrible smell.

Oh.

I think someone was.

That definitely happens in that room.

There's a lot of people eating weird food that gets delivered to that room.

Yeah, I mean, I,

oh, man, Cam Patterson, I don't want to,

I should have said just a guy.

I shouldn't have added it as Cam Patterson.

He started?

No, and he headlined.

He bought like,

he bought like enough fried chicken for 50 people.

And it was just me and his whole, it was like one of the first times I was hanging out with all black people in America.

I was just quietly

from Gus's?

Did they get it from Gus's?

It was like, no, I don't know where it was from.

It was huge and it was beautiful.

And I thought, I didn't know we had to do that.

And headlining, do we have to get food for everybody?

No,

I like that.

You can definitely order food.

If you ever want to headline there, we'll order you food.

Well, I, man, I have had good meals in their green room.

Yeah, we too.

We get Terry Black's delivered.

Terry Black's is great there.

We'd have Not a Damn Chance, Not a Damn Chance burgers.

Brian Simpson ordered ramen and didn't want to eat the eggs.

Everyone looked at me funny for eating it.

He said, I don't want these.

And I said, I'll eat them.

I'm a bit hungry.

Why not, man?

There's also, it's kind of a food.

There's a pizza place next door, and there's a Chick-fil-A way down the road.

It's a really good taco truck up the street, too.

And the Diddy Dog is good.

There's a lot of things in vans.

But I am more suspicious of eating out of trucks and vans now than I used to be.

What I like is the Mexicans doing the weird hot dogs with like

whatever.

They've got huge onions and capsicum.

Oh, yeah.

I've got a capsule or a hot sauce guy.

I love, I just like those men with like a thousand things and a little hot plate.

There's less of them now there than there used to be.

Who can say why?

I hope they won't come back.

We'll see.

It's a...

That was what I'd always, like,

there was always a contingent of the American, like, people chatting on cable news who would say that illegal immigration wasn't a huge thing and that people were inflating the numbers.

And then when I got here and I, no one warned me, but I was like setting up a house.

And I went to a Home Depot in the morning and it was like,

I don't know, it was like 150 guys.

Just out there.

This, I mean, this is old hat and Americans don't talk about it anymore because you've just all known for decades that this is what happens out front of a Home Depot.

Well, especially L.A.

If you go to L.A.,

it was way higher numbers in L.A., I think.

Texas actually has some pretty high numbers too, though.

They have to figure out a pathway to citizenship for these folks and amnesty for people that have been here and established.

Getting in the front door is a bitch.

Yeah.

And also, a lot of those people are good people.

Good people, hard workers.

What I liked is that the hombres out front of the Home Depot, a lot of them wearing like pro-American gear, like big American hats and bald eagle shirts and things.

So it's like, I'm going to be the most pro-American.

Yeah.

Or they just need a pathway.

Let's make sure that they're not cartel members and criminals and murderers.

That seems easy.

Yeah.

It seems like it's doable.

And it's also, they're valuable.

Like these are people that come over here with ambition.

That's what this country wants.

But why wouldn't they?

There's so, like, I think if you polled Americans, like, huge numbers of people would support that.

I agree.

So why doesn't anybody...

It's a good question.

Why can't anybody get it together?

Well, the thing is, it was so, I think it's an over-correction because it was so bad for the last four years where they had an open border.

And they were encouraging people to come in.

They were encouraging people, they were helping people, they were moving people to swing states.

The problem is when you have- They admit it.

They're admitting it.

I watched the Fedeman one where he was going, yeah, I mean, what you got to do?

Yeah.

This is crazy.

It's crazy.

Because the thing is, it affects elections in more ways than one.

Even if they can't vote, it affects the amount of congressional seats dependent upon the population, regardless of whether that population is legal or illegal.

So if you have 20 million people live in a place, you get a certain amount of congressional seats.

Regardless of if they're registered.

That's where things get weird.

That's the reality of politics in America, and they wanted to stop that, and the Democrats did not.

The Democrats wanted that to keep going.

That was one of the things that Trump ran on.

But then also he gets in.

He's like, can we get the white South Africans out of here immediately?

Can we move a million white South Africans to

Arizona?

Right?

Because you're bringing them in, but you're not bringing the persecuted Mexicans in.

It seems like a pathway would be

the things I had to do to get it.

The Africa thing is nuts, man.

The South Africa thing, the killing of the farmers.

People want to deny that that exists.

I have seen the rally.

The kill the boar, kill the farmer.

Oh, he's really doing it.

I've seen it.

And then he gets on trial and he's singing it.

I was saying.

And he goes, I was saying kiss.

I said, kiss the boy.

Right.

Yeah.

With his cold, dead eyes.

He's a spooky cat.

Yeah.

I forget his name.

He's a...

Yeah.

Yeah, they got some things to sort out.

Indeed.

But listen, the camera.

Sorry, I didn't mind.

I'm glad you're in America.

That's a terrible note to go, Adam.

Johnny Bones said, I've just re-entered the testing pool.

That lasted about two weeks.

Figured we'd keep everyone's options open.

A lot of the fighters are tweeting right now.

They're very excited about fighting on the White House lawn.

Oh, that's right.

They're going to fight on the White House.

July 4th, 2026, White House lawn.

I knew about it.

I kept it under my hat for months.

Sorry, people.

They're going to fight in the Rose Garden?

They're going to fight on the White House lawn.

20,000 people.

25,000.

Connor's in.

It's the.

Yeah.

He says he's going to be the president of Ireland by then next year.

He's chosen a weird time to run.

Yeah.

But the world's weird.

McKenna.

Yeah.

I love you to death, brother.

Thank you for being here.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, sir.

I appreciate it.

It's been awesome having you around.

You're a fucking great guy.

If I said anything crazy, I didn't mean it.

You're very, very funny, too.

And if anyone hasn't seen you stand up, go see them.

I can't recommend you enough.

You've changed my life.

Can I say something touching at the end?

Okay.

All right.

I mean, I was poor.

No opportunities.

I got pasted that club and it's revolutionized.

I get to pay my rent on time.

I get to do comedy often and people are nice about it.

This is...

It's been very, very strange.

And I couldn't have done it if you hadn't set that club up.

I appreciate that very much.

And that's the whole reason why we set it up the way we set it up in the first place.

We wanted to make it a place where that can happen.

And like I said, about open micers that are good, they just never saw a path and couldn't figure it out.

I think we can save some of those people in the future.

You know, I think we can make we can lessen the attrition rate and we can make better comics.

Yeah.

And make a real supportive community, which is what we're really doing.

And, you know, that was the whole goal of the place, is to make the best club possible.

And the best club possible has to have development.

You have to have people coming up that are really good.

It's like that's the key that a lot of these like improvs and stuff they miss.

They don't have like a night where you can just a bunch of people are doing 15 minutes.

They don't develop a local community.

Yeah.

And so they only rely on the headliners to come in on the weekend.

And the rest of the shows, you have various headliners who do one night or two nights or something like that, which is fine occasionally.

But the reality is, you want a vibrant development community.

And if you don't have that, you're not going to get new talent.

You're only going to have to import talent every week.

There's three cities in all of America where you can reliably do it.

It used to be two.

This has changed it.

Yeah.

And

Shane brought me over here.

I want to shout him out.

He's the best.

I was in Ohio.

I was having a good time, but

there was nothing happened for me.

And then the fact that there is a place that you can come and if you're going to work hard and do it.

Well, I mean, that's insane.

It's awesome.

Ah, look, I don't want to go on about it.

We're happy to have you, brother.

I'm very touched.

Thank you.

God bless you.

Tell everybody your Instagram so they can follow you

at JDF McCann, the James Donald Fools McCann Catamaran Plan.

That's a great podcast that everybody should check out.

I think they've got lots of poems.

That's it.

Okay, all right.

Hey, thanks so much.

Thank you, bro.

Bye, everybody.