#2233 - Scott Storch

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Those are the three I probably most iconic... So what are the...
we're rolling now, so tell me what's like the most iconic beats you've created. Oh, we're already rolling? We're rolling.
Hey, fuck it. How you doing? I mean, look, I've got not hundreds, but thousands of songs.
Thousands, for sure. Thousands of songs.
I'm told most often that most iconic or identifiable one is obviously still Dre. We got, give me a little of that real quick.
Let's see. Now, if you watch my fingers while I'm playing that, if I was just like a fucking sterile, like just basic motherfucker I'd be playing.
But I wanted to do it like... Sloppy.
Right. Like that perfect imperfection.
Right. Like you don't want...
Sometimes you want a nice sloppy booty or a nice fucking... You know what I'm saying? you don't want sometimes you want a nice sloppy

booty or a nice you know what i'm saying you want things always like perfect picture perfect right

you like a little grit on your hardwood floor yeah yeah yeah no that's where uh you know that

perfect imperfection how did you get started huh how did you get started making beats like what

started you in music what started me in music okay all the way back all the way back all the way back

Thank you. How did you get started making beats? What started you in music? What started me in music? Okay.
All the way back? All the way back. All the way back listening to Ozzy Osbourne and Cheap Trick in the mirror with a tennis racket.
Thinking, wow, I could probably get some girls to like me if I knew how to fucking play this shit. And then my parents had like an upright piano in the house, and it was a piece of furniture.
And I had a cassette deck. You know, at that time, it was all about cassettes.
And I had a little baby cassette thing. I put it on the piano bench and figure out how to play all my favorite songs.
Just self-taught? Yeah. And, you know, I ended up taking three or four lessons.
And the guy was like, you should just teach yourself. Really? Yeah.
And my family, we didn't have no money. And my mom, to get to the piano lesson and all that shit was just, I did my thing.
And to the point where my mom and dad were like, can you go outside and play with the kids?

I'm tired of hearing this shit.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

And then that evolved into I moved with my father.

My parents had divorced.

My dad was a court reporter, stenographer.

And we moved from I was born in New York as an infant moved to Florida. But when I was 15, just turning 15, I moved to Philly.

Thank you. And we moved from, I was born in New York as an infant moved to Florida.
But when I was 15, just turning 15, I moved to Philly with my dad. And I was really getting into music.
I was experiencing like hip hop now in my head. What year was this? I don't even know what year it was.
How old do you now? I'm 50. Okay, seven years different than me.

I'm real horrible with the years, but talking early 90s.

Yeah, extremely early. The beginning of the big hip-hop boom out of New York.

And when I first found a love for hip-hop,

it was this music that they were sampling all these like cool like Fender Road sounds like say Tribe Called Quest that's not one of mine but it was that like relax yourself girl that like, the de la soul, all that type of shit was heavy. And, like, I was like, wow, the music is really great in this.
It was different than, like, I mean, I loved NWA and I loved, like, but that was, like, hardcore shit. And then, like, this musical guru and jazz and, like, all this shit was coming around.
So I got into that and I couldn't really afford a keyboard. I'm living in Philly.
My dad was like, I was cutting school and going into the city from the burbs to, like, getting the music scene at this young age. And it was like, yo, go back to school and start that shit or get the fuck out.
He's trying to do me a favor with tough love but i decided to get the fuck out at 15 and now i'm like couch hopping at homies and that led to moving into the fucking hood in west philly with this guy who was an aspiring manager that was a videographer that i met at my dad's court reporting firm and kind of like halfway against my dad's will he took me in and we started hitting the pavement man and I joined the roots they were called the square roots at that time you know the band on Jimmy's show quest love etc and um I didn't have much money and I bought what they call a fender roads this is keyboard, which is, they're very expensive now because it's a vintage. But at that time, I could get that for like $200.
And I got the keyboard, had a couple of broken notes on it and shit, and I just made my sound with that. And it was just like this soulful, this thing, you know what I mean? And joined the Roots, and now I'm a band member.
you know what I mean and um joined the roots and now I'm a band member you know at simultaneously I'm doing construction in Philly for a friend of mine who has like these like shell houses that I got to live in one for a while and I got my first place I'm like living in this thing he lived across the street in a kind of a nice one this is like super horrible neighborhood but he's got almost like the whole block and like there's construction site on the first floor i had to walk up and this was like semi-finished one no electricity but he ran a cord across the street and a power strip for my electricity i ran everything on that one power strip like i had a fucking a space heater like this because it was freezing cold i had like a keyboard set up like so i could do my thing and that was just i made my existence and wow if i had never made it i was like man i'll just play at bar mitzvahs and weddings and fucking call it a day but i'd rather do that than be a court reporter or some other shit. Right.
And school wasn't for me. Couldn't focus on anything but the music.
It always bums me out that there's so many people out there like that that do have, they have intelligence and ability, but the system just wants them to plug into normal jobs. You don't realize like, hey, there's other jobs out there.
There's other things that you can do.

It's not conventional.

The path's not clear.

You know,

but you want to get into music.

You really fucking love music.

Get into music.

Yeah.

Get into music.

And nobody tells you that.

Nobody tells you.

And they don't tell you like,

find your niche within music.

Maybe you can do the actual music,

but you can become a promoter or you can become, there's so many different fields within music that you can do. If you're an expert.
If you have no talent and you have no business being in music, at least be honest with yourself, because we know if we're good or not. Right.
You know? But what makes talent? Passion. It's no talent.
Yeah, if you're a passionate person and you love something so much you're gonna end up being good at it i think if you're doing it to get money or something else it's like it's questionable you just want to be cool because you like music but if you're so passionate about this shit that you're showing results and you're growing and you're seeing that when you watch people's reactions i still do to this day i'm in the studio i'm playing some shit like i have this like weird thing where i start receiving satellite and i'm like playing and i don't even know what the hell i'm receiving satellite so like the muse i'm not even there anymore i'm just like all of a sudden i'm just doing this thing i've been doing it for 30 years and i watch the room like oh this episode is brought to you byTax. One thing I've learned from doing this podcast is the value of having real experts around.
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Like this one. Okay, let's use this.
You know what I mean? That's how I know if I'm moving people. Receiving satellite is a great way to put it.
Because that's what it feels like. I always say that sometimes I write things.
I'm like, I didn't really write that. You blacked out and it got written.
Yeah, that came from somewhere else. I didn't have any effort involved in this.
It just came to me. Like a gift from the gods.
That's why they always call it the muse. You know because because the people that were, you know, like Shakespeare and those people, they really did kind of feel like it was being given to them.
We all do, though, right? It's real. But doesn't everybody kind of say that when they're being honest? Like anybody who writes anything, whether they write literature, whether they write music, comedy, whatever.
It flows through you. Yes.
If you have to work for it, it's contrived, sort of, like, I feel it somewhat. Like, if something doesn't come, like, I push myself, yes, because there's technical stuff that you have to, but that initial light bulb that goes off and just get in that zone.
Yeah, downloading satellite. And the thing about it is it's so hard to control.
It comes, it goes, it's there, it's not. What's that water you're drinking? What is this crazy? You know what? It's bag water.
I'm going to tell you what it is. I get, like, inflammation.
I'm playing piano or whatever. I sometimes get a little bit like, and this is like hydrogen water.
And I fuck with it. A friend of mine, like he's like listen i think you should try my water he's investing all kinds of things and he's just he's been my best one of my best friends my whole life sky adam linder fuck cool guy i've been down and out and fucking do take me in and you know we're both meshugan is but you know he has this fucking water and um him and randomly enough my boy who's a big songwriter poo bear they're giving a go at this water thing so but i like it it's h factor water dude yeah i've heard of that stuff it's really good so when you say you're getting uh inflammation in your hands like carpal tunnel type yeah kind of like yeah sometimes like sometimes if it's cold and my hands it's like freezing or something i can't go in.
Do you ever use CBD? Huh? Do you ever use CBD or turmeric? Turmeric, yeah, I do that type of stuff. I do the little shots.
Yeah, you should do that all the time. Raw ginger.
Yeah. There's a place in L.A.
that I like. I don't have it in my app.
I'm real tight with, I don't know if you know Rick Solomon. He owns this thing Sun Life.
I'm fucking, they have great shit there. So I do that.
Oh, the Sun Life place in California. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, I do.
Yeah. Yeah.
Rick is fucking, he's been an inspiration to me. And like, you know, everybody knows my story.
And, you know he i look up to him because he was

able to walk away from drugs right very easily and stay there for me i have a hard time with it um i still struggle and like it's not drugs it's to put it bluntly it's pussy and drugs together okay it's a kill of a combination and drug sex and all that shit.

You get caught up in that wave and it starts glamorously in your career of doing drugs.

It just turns into something real ugly.

He walked away from me for a while.

He was like, bro, you're fucking up again. I'm in a great place now man I got good people around me and uh I smoke and you know I make my music and I chill these days man that's great I've graduated I was trying to tell you about your hands like if you if you're getting inflammation and you're taking hydrogen water like hydrogen water be great but if you really want to cut it down what we were talking

about earlier is the way to cut it down stop eating things that give you inflammation that's

the big one that'll change everything yeah cut out all the sugar in the bread and you'll be amazed

at how well you feel bread like i'm not really like a sugar guy like some people eat sweets and

shit like me i'll go lately because i'm trying to lose like a lot of weight i've been eating fruit

Thank you. really like a sugar guy like some people eat sweets and shit like me I'll go lately because I'm trying to lose like a lot of weight I've been eating fruit like constantly eating fruits great and I feel so much better because like I drink water till I'm blue in the face I'm not hydrated I eat fruits and shit like that it's like I feel like it just sticks to your organs and like just well there's a of vitamins.
A lot of watermelon. Watermelon's fantastic.
I love watermelon and apples. Do you take any sort of electrolytes? I do.
I do. Regularly? Gatorade.
I'm just trying to help you with your hands. Yeah, Gatorade.
But there's this other stuff. I don't even know what it's called, but it's like a powder.
It's supposed to be less fattening, and you just put it in the water, and it's like an accelerator of hydration. Like liquid IV or something like that? Something, yeah.
I don't even know. There's a bunch of those that are really good.
Yeah. Yeah, that's, you know, you could take care of that.
Obviously, your fingers are still working, but if you're starting to feel real discomfort, there's some things you could do cbd is a big one cbd helps so much my friend dave foley uh he uh had arthritis to the point where his hands were like totally crooked and straighten his hands out he started taking cbd and it all went away that's crazy yeah the benefits of and it's incredible it really is incredible yeah the diet is a big one i think i'm getting my fair share of uh cbd and from the not just that not from the flour but i i like edibles but not like dissolute i know i'm into rosin edibles the the difference is the cbd you can isolate just the cbd and they can make it much higher concentrates oh really yeah like i love this shit when I love this shit. When I have muscle soreness, this is CBD.
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Anytime you can eliminate inflammation in your life, that's good. Yeah.
Whether it's your personal life or your body, just eliminate all the inflammation. So many people tell me this wave of, like, sea moss.
Sea moss. Yeah, like, people, like, the benefits of...
Are you hearing about sea moss, Jimmy? I've heard of it. Are're hearing about people eating it? I don't know.

Yeah. I don't know.

I haven't tried it, but... I'm a big believer

in ribeyes. Yeah, ribeyes.

Medium rare. I love that.

Butterflied with a char.

Yeah, I'm not really

into your sea moss.

No, I've never tried

the shit, but everybody's like, you should do sea

moss. Most of that shit is starvation

food. Really?

Yeah, people eat it when they couldn't find

And, No, I've never tried the shit, but everybody's like you should do sea moss. Most of that shit is starvation food.
Really? Yeah, people eat it when they couldn't find fish. If you could find fish, you ate a fucking fish.
Why would you eat that stupid moss? That's I think that's what most vegetables are. Most vegetables are starvation food.
Yeah, I think I fuck with salads. I actually enjoy salads, but I do them.
I'm gonna put dressing on it and shit and like yeah destroy it right some ranch a little Caesar vibe i just like oil and vinegar olive oil and vinegar is all i like on salads but i like salads so i eat salads like i'm not like religious about it but i just i know that when i'm only eating like meat and steak and eggs and i feel way better. Everything feels like it's in tune.
My brain works better. My body feels more relaxed.
It's a tangible thing. When I eat a lot of bullshit, I feel it.
Dude, I met these, coming from being a fucking middle of nowhere kid, not a rich kid, not part of some socialite type shit i i came up to like a certain level of people that was like pretty insane like russian multi-billionaires and what is that like hanging around with those cats that's fucking bizarre but that must be weird because they'll get you killed right it could happen yeah but like i'm hanging out with this one guy who's probably one of the richest men in the world. And we're eating borscht.
He's like, Scotty, you should eat soup every day. It's good.
I know what I'm telling you. I'm like, okay.
I eat a lot of soup. Soup's good.
Soup is basically vegetable juice. You're saying like the hot broth and shit like that is just super good for you to live longer.
Bro, I used to live in Los Angeles. I used to go to Jerry's Famous Deli and get their chicken noodle soup.
They had the best. It's good with the matzo ball.
Oh, my God. Their chicken noodle soup.
No chives, though, I tell them. Do they put chives in it normally? Jerry's does, yeah.
But I like... No, no, chives, guy.
I like dill. Dill? Dill, yeah.
I got like a Russian nanny and different things like that that work for me and they put that fresh dill in oh my god and that just changes everything that's like that's like mama never made if it's like you think about how cold Russia is of course they make a good soup yeah anywhere that's cold is gonna make a good soup yeah you don't hear like soup from Texas no right you hear chili you don't hear soup you't hear soup. You don't hear about their soup.
Queso. Queso? That's kind of soup.
I had the butternut squash soup where you put me at last night at the Four Seasons. That's just not my kind of soup.
It was good, but it's just not my favorite. It's basically vegetable juice.
Yeah. That's where you're drinking hot vegetable juice.
But of course it's good for you. Table cream, all of it.
Right. Oh, that kind of stuff where they make the little, the white swirls on the top like it's a latte.
Yeah. Fancy.
Yeah. Very fancy, Scott.
So, so yeah, music, we started like talking about how my music career evolved. Pull up that mic.
Huh? So, earlier we were talking where did it start, and I went all the way back. So now I'm hanging with this guy Richard, the videographer I was saying that I met in my dad's office.
He took me in, started making an attempt to professionalize myself as a musician, joined the roots. We got a record deal.
And I loved it. I was now a very lucky guy to be involved in something cool, but I was bringing something real major to the table within the group.
And I just felt like after a while I wasn't appreciated and that I was just going to be remembered as the guy who played keys for the roots like and i wanted more than that i left the group for a multitude of reasons some i usually don't talk about but like i you know boohoo i felt some reverse racism i know that people have dealt with shit like fucked up shit and I was just like kind of mortified once I'm on a stage. And I just remember I'm performing with the roots at, uh, in New York, this event called the black Lily and playing the keyboards, backing everybody up and this and that.
And somebody was rapping. They pointed me the white devil.
Something just like uh what the fuck is happening here like i'm were they serious i'm the most loving no no it was fucked up shit bro it really hurt me because i'm like i don't see color i don't see any of that shit i'm the most like just coolest motherfucker in that aspect like it to me racism bothers me but it was like you, you know, my family now were not representing for me, and I let that happen. And just combined with...
So someone on the stage said that? Yes, one of the rappers. I'm not going to say names, but just...
God damn. It was just like, how is this happening right now? God damn.
And, you know, I felt like all the credit for all the big melodies, big melodies and stuff that I was creating for the group was just being swept under the rug. And, like, I said, I got to leave this group.
And I'm dating this girl at the time who was, like, urging me not to. She was saying, you're going to be the Pete Best of the Roots.
You know who Pete Best is? Yeah, the Beatle. He left the Beatles, yeah.
Yeah. So she was like, you're going to be the Pete Best of the Roots.
I was like, that's cool. She actually dumped me.
Oh, that's it. And I continued on my journey attempting to be a music producer and not join bands.
And I met this guy through the whole process of being in the roots his name was derrick jackson and he and i he embraced me into you know you're so talented like let's give it a go and we would take these trips from philly to new york and just go to every a and r every fucking uh label trying people that contacts that this guy derrick had in new york he was York you know like he would just use them and then the first week we were doing that we got a couple of bites and one was my first client was Busta Rhymes I'll never forget it Busta like believed me and I went to the studio we made a record one shot one kill baby that's how it is like you get one shot you know it's not like and we made blot out which was uh on his album anarchy um and uh we also got that same week maybe three days later capone and noriega and uh cnn the album you know nor's got his whole world in podcasts now, so he's proud of that guy, great guy. But yeah, they believed in me.
And the day I went in, I'll never forget it, Capone, whose partner, was coming home from jail that day. And the theme of the day was, I guess he got him some girls and on the way the way to the studio to come work and now he's like all day he kept saying it's nothing it's nothing to come home from jail with these girls in your limousine and come work with me and scotty and this and that it was just amazing day we made music we made like three and then i was off to the races man i was making music wow and uh a whole bunch of cool stuff in between there and then still ain off to the races, man.
I was making music. Wow.
And a whole bunch of cool stuff in between there, and then still ain't make no money, but I'm now, like, doing shit. Is that you? Yeah, let me shut this off.
Isn't it funny that fear of, like, the Pete Best type thing, that's such a real thing? In the beginning, you don't have any idea what your future's going to be. Like, did I? would see shit on yeah like they're appearing here or doing this and that and be like fuck but what did i do right i held in there and then i'm always a lot of people say this but i'm like a fucking very harmonious person i always do good for everybody i never like, you can accuse me of being a lot of things,

but being an asshole, I'm not.

So when I was in my first trip to L.A., all right,

I went to L.A. to perform, and I did this open mic at the Martini Lounge.

It was my first time ever going to California,

and it was, like, it was a roots event.

I wasn't in the group anymore, but, like, whatever I had had to do i was going to make a few hundred bucks to go play background on this on this thing it wasn't the roots it was like an open mic with random people coming and this okay so i did this thing and who do i see come up to me but a chick i knew from Philly and she was like storage she's like you're not gonna believe

this and who do I see come up to me but a chick I knew from Philly. And she was like, storage, what up? She's like, you're not going to believe this, but I signed a record deal with Dr.
Dre in Aftermath. And I was like, wow, that's crazy.
So she's like, I'm going to hook you up with Dre. You were always fucking good to me in Philly, and you never tried to smash.
You let me go in the studio, and we did cool stuff together and like it was a platonic thing like she was my homegirl and um sure enough I go and I meet up with Trey I'm waiting for him to come out I'm in the lobby like nervous as hell I don't have anything to play for him I have my fingers that's about it and uh I go into a room and he sits me down he's like i hear you good at them keys i start playing for him and this and that he's real quiet and just like listening i'm like nothing's coming from this i'm i'm gonna go home sad today he leaves the room i'm still sitting in there i'm like i don't know if I should be just leaving or I'm supposed to stay in here. And this dude, Larry Chapman, one of his head dudes comes back in.
Dre wants you to stay here for a long time. You're going to get you a hotel and here's some money.
I was like, really? Okay. Dre wants you to stay here for a long time.
Yeah. He was just like, let me know.
Dre wants you here, man. like you can stay because I was like, really? Okay.
Dre wants you to stay here for a long time. Yeah, he was just like, let me know.
Dre wants you here, man. Like, you can stay? Because I was going to get on a plane back to Philly that night.
And I remember I went back to the hotel. I got all my shit, and now I'm being switched to, like, a fancy hotel.
And I'm, like, chilling, and I got some money. I went and rented a fucking 5 Series BMW and I was like,

wow, I am in LA for the first time.

I have money.

I just met Dre. I'm about to make

a fucking album with Dr. Dre.

The next day I go to the studio

and I meet up with Dre.

He's telling me all kinds of cool shit.

He accepted me into his world.

It was such a...

It was surreal, bro.

It's a movie scene.

It was surreal.

Dre wants you to stay for a long time.

I got this – he's telling me I got this rapper that is really talented.

I believe in him.

He's a white boy and this and that.

And in walks Eminem.

Wow.

And, like, he let me finish up some record that he was doing with him.

It was one of M's first releases at Just the Two of Us. You know what I'm talking about? And I played a little Keys on that.
The next day, me and Dre went in to work on his project, and we made Big Egos, which made it to the— that's like that one shot, one kill thing. That first day worked out.
it led to me being along dre's you know side and in his his uh camp for a very long time but there's just a handful of dudes like you out there in the world that i call like a musical magician you know there's there's people that people call upon you know like you gotta get storage i'm a producer producer right but like what is that like what separates you from other musicians that makes you this savant do you think about it or would that take away the magic i can barely tie my shoelaces but you know how to bang out some i got this shit right i was telling you about that russian oligarch okay he looked at me one time And he says, Scotty, you're not playing this keyboard. You're fucking the piano.
I don't know what you're doing. It's wrong.
I'm not an educated guy, but I have rhythm on some different shit, like Bob James. Your boys, the Black Keys.
Love those guys. But, look, not to jump around too much, but working with them is the first time, like, I feel like I did anything good.
I can't explain it. I have all these hits, like, The Candy Shop, this, that, Beyonce, every single thing.
I feel like the first time I really got into it on some real touch the culture real shit. Not what's people like trap music and dumb shit like that.
Yeah. This is like the real as it gets.
And I got to use these vintage keyboards. I'm playing shit with a wah-wah pedal on a keyboard and like going crazy.
And like if you look at my Instagram sometime, you'll see some of the shit that I'm'm doing like their studio i do i watch it all the time their studio is insane man like and those toys like i was really tapping in really yeah yeah it was so much fun but i just love those two guys they're just and they're so fucking talented man we saw them out here at stubs yeah fuck it was so fun man yeah man and something about nashville is a great place to make music well think about how much great music has come out of there and then the memory of that shit is burned into the city i believe in that i believe that places have memory you know i really do yeah you feel it yeah i think there's a there's an element i mean it's not everything about place, but I think places have memory. You know? I think that a place like Nashville, and also it's small enough because it's kind of a tight community.
Everybody kind of knows everybody. There's so many musicians there.
Kid Rock's there. Black Keys is there.
Yeah, Kid Rock. He told me he was...
Yeah, I read into it at the UFC. Kid Rock's my favorite fucking thing of all time is going to his giant track of land in Nashville and seeing his fucking White House.
Yeah, like with the rotating dining room and the fucking crazy. He's out of his mind.
He did well, man. Yeah.
He was one of, I know I met him. I met him, He used to come up to the studio when we were making the Chronic album with Dre.
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I don't know if he was doing some other stuff, but he was there quite a bit. Cool guy, man.
Yeah, he's always at the UFC with Trump. It's hilarious because Trump comes into American Badass.
The crowd goes nuts when they know he's there. And then Kid Rock's behind him.
It's like the Republican Avengers. Dude, I performed at Mar-a-Lago not long ago.
No way. Yeah, I jammed out.
I did a Blacks for Trump thing. It was cool, man.
Jeff Dye was telling me he's done stand-up at Mar-a-Lago. How crazy is that? Yeah, it's a fucking...
He's a genius i really am he he got a sick sick operation over that mar-a-lago is insane bro i need to check it out we thought about doing a we do this podcast called protect our parks with shane gillis ari shaffir and mark norman's crazy we get hammered and drink beer at oh like this giant freedom bong it's like an eagle's asshole you're drinking the beer out of. And we talked about doing one from Mar-a-Lago.
We might do that still. That's cool.
I'm supposed to go there. I think I'm going to go there for us on the 13th.
They're doing some kind of event, like a Roaring Twenties vibe dinner and then a whole weekend. Of Roaring Twenties? Like you wear the outfits? I'm not going to.
Bro, I would wear one of them outfits.

That would be badass.

What did they wear?

What's like a Roaring Twenties outfit?

Zoot suit.

I would imagine that's like...

Double-breasted.

Yeah, like the Peaky Blinders.

What those dudes wore.

What do they wear in their Twenties?

The Shelby's.

Zoot suits, man.

What do they wear?

Roaring Twenties men. There you go.
Oh, man. What do they wear? Roaring 20s men.
Oh, yeah. Oh, that looks slick.
Those hats, look at that. They all wore hats.
Lucky Luciano shit going on. Isn't that crazy that nice hats just went away? We were talking about that the other day.
We were watching an old school fight with Jack Johnson. And every man on the street waiting in in line for the fight all the people in the audience for the fight all of them had fancy hats on men used to just wear fancy hats something happened fancy hats just fell apart like if you were in the fancy hat business in 1920 be like bro we got it forever like fancy hats ain't going away but fancy hats completely fucking what if you wear a companies.
A friend of mine was wearing a hat. He's like, you know, this hat's like four grand.
I'm like, it's like some fancy company. I'm sure there's companies, but it's not like everybody's.
Like baseball hats, everybody buys baseball hats. You know? But fancy hats, they just went on.
If you would ask those fancy hat people, do you think one day the president will be wearing a baseball hat or a fancy hat? They'd be like, a fancy hat. He's the fucking president.
Nope. Make America great again.
Baseball hat with a suit on. That's great.
Fancy hats just fell out of style. Yeah, I think.
You can't bring it back either. It's become a much more casual world, I believe.
And it's like, I mean, sometimes I always bitch like, ah, people knew how to dress.

When we used to go out, I would put on a sport coat and wear, you know.

But, like, at the end of the day, like, I get it. It's all bullshit.

It's all bullshit.

It's nice to dress up sometimes.

Sometimes.

It's fun.

It's a pain in the ass sometimes.

Yeah.

It's a pain in the ass.

Lately, I've just been changing my whole fashion ways.

Like, a friend of mine said something.

He's like, even though I have nice things, things he's like you don't need a Ferrari be the Ferrari when you walk in a room you're on South Beach and all these fucking guys that barely have a pot to piss in getting out of the Lambo and the fucking valet and the iced out and shit like I'm the king of I was filthy rich and did all that shit. And I might as well have just landed a fucking spaceship on top of the club.
Like, I was doing everything. But lately, I just, it turns me off.
I look at myself and I look like, I feel like a poser. Like, I feel like the richest guy in the room is wearing a fucking, a fucking, a bare bones, no diamonds type shit.
Well, look at Elon musk yeah dude wears occupy mars t-shirts doesn't even have a watch yep you know it's just so that's just hanging that's what i'm at you don't i think what happens is in the beginning you want everybody to know you're doing well so you have all your stuff on you dress real nice you know like wow scott's looks good he looks sharp but then when you're, you reach a point in your life where you're just like, what am I, who am I doing this for? This is stupid. Well, if you're like me and you have a point in your life where you had $100 million and you were trying to impress everybody and you fucking didn't have any respect for everybody.
Like my financial manager walked away from me back in the day. He said, you're unmanageable.
Why? Were you going crazy? I was going, I was spending so. But look, you're still here.
I had fun. I had tons of fun.
I bet you had a good time. I bet you had a good time.
But when you lose everything, you want to fake it and be like, oh, no, I still got it. And I'm the guy with the most obnoxious set of diamonds.
And I'm broke as shit. Because I just wanted to look to my heart.
My ego wouldn't let me let go of that shit. That's a negative feedback loop.
Yeah. Because that doesn't feed into art either.
No, it doesn't. It doesn't.
I had to get rid of all of that. I had to really take it back to nothing.
I don't care about labels and shit. I like nice things.
Look, I don't have to do the pull-up on the club, but look, there's nothing wrong with a fucking 911. It's just a great car like yeah there's amazing engineering anything yeah like i do it for me now like whatever i do and um i'm just like i'm really getting into my music i'm getting into a lot of things i appreciate both things i appreciate people who dress real nice and i appreciate people who don't give a fuck i think there's a a place for everybody.
There's a happy medium. Yeah and then the stuff, stuff is not life.
Life is not your stuff. No.
But some stuff is fucking cool. Hell yeah.
Like Cat Williams when he was here, he wasn't even living here or staying here and somehow or another he got an electric Rolls Royce. So he's here.
I mean he's here for a day to do a show and wasn't he doing a show somewhere else or something? Like an arena somewhere? But one of the things he said, he said, when you're sitting in this car, you know where you spent your money. Because it's like, you go, oh, I know why this is $600,000.
Look how fucking amazing this thing is. No, yeah.
Lights on the ceiling. I love nice things.
I just like them for different reasons. Right.
You don't like them for showing off. You like them because you like them because they're awesome.
Yeah. There's nothing wrong with luxury.
Yes. There's nothing wrong with luxury.
If you work hard. The problem is you trying to show everybody your luxury instead of just enjoying it.
Like, look at my car. Or prioritizing it before your children or before things.
Before anything. Before anything.
Before food. Yeah.
It shouldn't come before anything. It should be just a fun thing.
And when you get to a level of success that you're at, if you don't figure that out, that's when it's the saddest. When someone makes a ton of money and doesn't go, oh, it's not about the things.
It's about the relationships that I have. It's about my friends.
It's about my loved ones, my family. It's about the people that I work with.
It's about everybody having a good time. It's about let's all get together and break bread and eat and hug each other and tell each other we love each other and do great work and have a good time and just enjoy this life experience.
That's the thing. That's the thing.
The car is just like, look, that's cool, dude. Yeah, it's icing.
Yeah, you pull up in a cool car, I'm like, check it out. That is all some people have to offer in their life, and they think that that is great.
Well, you know, the problem is that's seemingly the most unattainable thing. When you're broke and you see some guy who pulls up in a brand new 911, you're like, what the fuck? This is yours? It's mind-blowing.
I had Bugattis and all kinds of shit. You had those things? I had everything.
I won for the best car collection on fucking MTV Cribs. I had like 26 cars, bro.
If you name it, I had like $10 million cars. Wow.
Like crazy shit. I'm an idiot.
But at any rate. Yeah, but those are fun too if you can afford it.
No, yeah, but I lived a billionaire's life as a millionaire. I had $100 million.
I thought I said $100 billion in my account. I thought there was an extra zero.
But recently, I met a guy. He just met Kevin.
Kevin is a fucking, like, just a great person. I had met him years and years ago.
He was the head of security for 50 Cent. And he brought 50 to my house to do the candy shop.
And that's when I met him. But I lost touch with him for so many years.
And not so long ago, just re-met him at this studio. This guy, Bebe, at Circle House said, Yo, this guy wants to wants to you've met him before but he wants to meet you he's now the owner of um uh the platinum security group which is like one of the largest corporate security companies in the nation like this guy owns so much real estate he owns half of boca raton he's like a major freaking guy and, we started, he wanted to initially hire me to do some music for some artists.
And he had a record label. And we ended up partnering on that record label and partnering on these different type things that were, you know, different projects and shit that we're doing.
And he is like, yo, first of all, you need to get the fuck out of Miami. And I want you to move an hour north to Boca so you can focus and really make the music and stop worrying about because Miami like starts slipping into my old ways and girls are everyday it show up and it's a cesspool bro and it's so much fun and it's so fucked up and there's so much drugs and there's so much everything and it's like fuck that you should have to have a passport to go to miami right that is not america that's a new thing that's some new thing miami's wild it's good to go there if you need to fucking be there but like the energy in that place an hour down the road is beautiful waterfront living right normalcy and just far enough to where the you far enough to where the garbage is not going to hit you every day.
You can get there if you want. Yeah.
But, yeah, you're outside. That's what I think.
Attack it from the outside. Move up here.
Since I did that and a politics lead, so many great things are happening. Yeah.
Even just like unlocking. You know how you block your blessings? Like I was blocking my blessings and and now they're starting to come i'm here with you talking and telling my story and like like things like that are happening great things i have um an artist that um you know i'm working on i have my album i decided like you know khaled makes the album he's got all these different, you know what? I'm going to, like, I've made my whole life of this making hit records for labels and for their artists.
Why not develop artists and do my own album and use some of those artists for my projects? And, yeah, I'm putting out a slew of singles. this girl Abby Stare that Kevin introduced me to

is like so amazing i think there might be a picture somewhere of that uh i was told like because i'm using her for my single for my first single like even though you know we're going to be developing her album and um but i'm doing my single featuring her and then a whole bunch of other ones

that I'm going to be putting out.

I have one with Young Blue.

And I have tons of singles.

But we have this song.

And yeah, I'm excited, man.

I'm doing the things I always wanted to do.

I'm taking full-on initiative now.

And you think moving an hour outside Miami was a big part of that? I think, yeah, in order to just... Balance.
Yeah, balance myself. You need balance, man.
You need to be able to go hard, but you need to be able to recover, relax, and focus. You need privacy.
You need solitude so you can think. Everybody needs that.
You need balance in your life. If you don't, you lean in one's like it's like your body you only work out your biceps your fucking your hips are gonna go something's gonna go wrong you're gonna fuck your body up with imbalance you're gonna fuck your life up with imbalance everything needs some sort of a balance and everybody's balance is different you know for a guy like you who goes hard you probably should get the fuck out of Miami.
You probably should be living in Boca

with all the quiet people.

Yep, and I'm loving it.

If I need to go to Miami, I'm...

One hour.

I'll go to Miami.

One hour.

Fuck it.

How hard is that?

I love Florida.

This is a fucking crazy-ass place.

It is.

Crazy-ass place filled with reptiles.

Yeah, right?

And they literally were walking around on your dock.

There's so many.

I think iguanas like that. Giant iguanas falling out of trees when it gets cold out.
Yeah, it's funny as shit. It's just such a fucked up place.
But it's so fun. There's so many good things.
And during the pandemic, I think people started to really appreciate Florida. Like so many people moved down there.
They're like, hey, you can just live here. You don't have to just be under the tyrannical control

of the government.

Look, the Northeast was a great place

as a young guy to build strength

and the changing of the seasons

and scraping the ice off your fucking windshield

and just learning about being a man,

wearing Timberland boots

because you're fucking freezing cold.

Right.

And I think every young person

should have to experience that. 100 not just like sunshine bro i grew up in boston yeah and um you know it's cold as fuck in the winter when when i was a kid we made money by shoveling snow and that you know that's back breaking fucking work shoveling long steep driveways and shit for a for $100.
But if you could do that and do that all the time, you build resolve. You're out there freezing.
Your hands are numb. We play outside in the snow.
Your fucking hands would go numb. You come in, you can't feel your feet.
It makes you stronger. It makes you stronger.
Scraping the ice off your windshield before you go to work. Yep.
Salting the fucking walk. I feel bad for people that don't grow up in those environments because I really think it gives you a little extra edge.
And those changing of seasons are amazing. Different feelings, different moods.
All my favorite comedians for the most, well, that's not true. I was going to say that, but then Kinnison.
He was from Texas. Sam.
Yeah, but that was different. That dude was, that's a different thing.
I always think about back to school. I think about Sam Pinson.
I don't know why. My mind just goes right there.
Was he right? Was he right? I was there. That dude was awesome.
Yeah, he was awesome. I have an appreciation for film.
I have an appreciation for comedians. Like, I like, I really like, I grew up like, dude, I was buying like Richard Pryor albums as a kid, Eddie Murphy albums.
I spent a lot of time, I became good friends with Mike Epps. A lot of comedians.
Comedians are tortured souls, you guys. I think a lot of that whole comedy tragedy thing is very serious.
For many, for many. Yeah, there's something to that but it's you just

got to figure out how to balance it like we were talking about before for me uh i balance it out with exercise exercise and saunas and cold plunges and yoga and shit like that that's how i balance it out that's how i keep my mind straight yeah but if i didn't i would be spiraling just like all of them. I think you need something in your life that's more difficult than your life.
Something that you do that you choose to do that's more difficult than regular life. Because then it makes regular life way more manageable.
Well, it's kind of cool. I'm 50 and I'm like inspired like when I was in my early 20s and just like doing the music.
And it's like sometimes I get reminded of like the fact, you know, like when you try to like keep up, like there's a session like and you're going to have to go meet little baby at three in the morning. It's like, okay, fuck it.
I just do it. I just have to compensate for it.
I could have just went for days back in the day without drugs. You know what I'm saying? Right, right.
And now it's like, all right, I'm going to sleep real late because I'm going to have to go at 3 o'clock in the morning. So is that like a standard thing? Like when rappers come in and they want to work with you, do they generally want to work late at night? Rappers? Yeah.
Yes. They all want to work late at night.
And my biggest problem problem is i know i can't always tell them that like sometimes you should just send them cds and shit but i know when you get in a room and you make some shit right there on the spot for somebody and you're feeling their energy that's when the best records happen yes these dudes like a lot of dudes are not like with it but there's some are that's the extra magic right yeah i think the best records happen. Yes.
These dudes, like, a lot of dudes are not, like, with it,

but there's some are.

That's the extra magic, right?

Yeah, I think the best artists want that.

The ones that aren't really artists,

they just want some bullshit to rap on, some more bullshit.

But there's something, you're exchanging something as human beings, right?

You're with that person.

You're experiencing them. They're experiencing you, the music, the song, everything together, the lyrics.

That's a human experience. That's why I refuse to do Zoom podcasts like some people in other countries.
They wanted to be on a screen and just sit in the living room. You got to fly here, bro.
You got to be in the room. I'll give you a perfect example.
I got a call a week ago FaceTime and it was J. Cole was sitting on my phone and I was chilling.
I was like oh shit, it's J. Cole.
My neighbor thinks I'm selling dope. He says, yo Storch, I figured out a way that I can harness that Storch thing.
You're in Florida. I'm flying there.
So I'm going home from this tomorrow. He's going to be there the next day.
We're going to be working at a hit factory. But he gets it.
We were just listening to neighbors in the green room last night. We're all going, motherfucker, I am.
I'm excited. I'm excited when somebody wants to get

in the room and they have

an idea of what they feel

out of the Scott Storch bag of tricks.

They want to harness

or encompass. Well, you're also

a guy that you find out you're working

with Scott Storch that day, everybody

gets fired up.

Because you've had so much success that there's

this excitement about you. And you're in the room and that creates like additional like inspiration yeah i give my all to all clients because if somebody's gonna be in a room when i'm not there and they're like this is the one scott storch did that shit had better if i like the artist or i don't like whatever the, they have to be like, yo, that beat is fucking flames.
So I give my all to shit. And for some reason, man, like I said, like, I just, this is one of the few things I can just do over and over again.
I do it good. I give results.
Nothing always sounds the same. If somehow I manage to pull it off.
And it's like, I just remember Dr. Dre telling me, yo,

because his work ethic is crazy.

He says, you don't have to be on every day, just most days.

And it stuck with me.

And I was like, yeah, man, like, you know,

you got to be known for being the guy that hit home runs almost every time. Not every time, but almost every time.

But when you're dealing with something that involves creativity,

it can't be every day. It's not possible.
You're asking too much of the muse. Yeah.
But that's also the problem with being a workaholic. You're going hard all the time.
You're constantly working. And you're going to have your hitses and you're going to have your misses.
And that's just a part of the process. I go hard with everything that I do, whether it be a bad thing or a good thing yeah like most people do i got like you know the same energy i give to that to the music and shit i was given to like the wrong things for a while a good friend of mine we were talking about a buddy of ours that died he died from pills and uh he was super clean he was a professional pool player like a really like world-class pool player

Super clean never did anything never drank never smoked got a car accident fucked his back up started getting on pills and

Pain pills to him. He chased the pain pills the way he chased being the best in the world at pool

The same thing that got him to be a wizard at playing pool that a same obsession for him that

Stay same obsession got wrapped up in the pills and he died He died young and we were talking about him like that is what it is That's that's where obsession and addiction cross paths one can serve you one can ruin you and they're they're the same energy It's just how you channel the fire. You can channel the fire to wood

and cook your food or you can channel it to

your house and now you're fucked.

Where do you put the fire? How do you

direct it? And if you direct

it the right way, you can have an amazing life and do

all kinds of cool shit and have a great time

and meet cool people and have a fun life

or you can do it the wrong way and just

be on skid row.

Covered in scabs. It's hard to balance sometimes things that take over your soul, like pills and shit like that.
Later, I want to talk to you about it. I got into the business of rehab, not for money.
I got into the business of rehab to help people, but that's later. Honestly, my whole life was just all music, music, music.
I loved music. I loved going in my fucking car and just listening to the things I loved, like music.
I love music of the 70s, and I love Marvin Gaye. I like all this fucking incredible music, earth, wind, and fires, and this, that.
Like, I just, that's where it all comes from. So I based my music on the past 50 years of music 100 years of music and um I was doing good I smoked pounds of weed made my music lived a very healthy life and became very rich and I was in a bubble for so long that one day I'm living in a house that uh um Ivanka Trump recently just bought it was my house on Indian Creek Island okay which I owned outright I bought the fucking house for cash from the widow of the founder of Southern Wine and Spirits and I bought this house it was fucking massive topiary gardens and incredible thing.
I was living a healthy life. And I wasn't in my mind, like, cool.
But I was, like, happy. I was cool.
That was as cool as it gets because I was balanced and healthy and doing what I loved to do. But I felt like I was yearning for something bad or I don't know what I was yearning for, but this girl ended up showing up at my doorstep, a very famous girl, and look, I'm not playing the blame game or anything, but it's just a course of events happen, Paris Hilton shows up at my door, initially to work on music, and we ended up connecting connecting and I learned this whole new way of life like with paparazzis and being like next to her and then excuse me inevitably hooking up with her and we're now an item and shit and we're you know kind of like we're having tons of fun we're good friends but i think we're both using each other in a certain way like where i'm like like so excited to be next to this girl who's like the coolest most famous girl in the world she's like my girl and like she's next to a few her passions at that time music and she was like next to me.
I'm the number one music producer in the world at the time.

And it went on, and then inevitably the nightlife led to fucking cocaine. No, no, no, no.
She don't lie. She don't lie.
No, no, no. first year, year and a half, going here on Plains and Saint-Tropez and St.
Bards and

the Flyers. first year year and a half going here on planes and saint tropez and saint bards and the flyest shit you could do and flyest the best fucking coke and all that shit just having a blast and then it just goes bad and then it's just like you have a relationship you've seen the movie blow oh yeah you've seen how hot uh pen and Dewar, like, in the beginning, they were, like, into each other.
Then it just comes. Of course.
All, like, there's no happy ending. Your foundation gets rotted out under you.
Yeah, and, like, my A-list life was, like, you know, was born there. And, like, I was now, like, in that situation.
ended up with kim kardashian and all these different things and like she wasn't even famous at that point but like you know she's cool man she's always been a great person and like i gained a lot of respect for her when she started working for criminal and prison reform yeah that's it just shows like she's that's it's from the heart too she's advocacy for people that are. Yeah, man.
She's done a lot of good things. That lady's gotten a lot of people out of jail.
Yeah. Look, as long as I've known Kim, she's never been anything but just a super sweet person.
That's awesome. I met her before the fame.
Like we dated before the fame. And, you know, I just – I was a hot mess.
Like, I was the fucked up one when we were together. Like, I just was not focused.
I was just thinking about strippers and drugs and this and that. It was just, I was still on a high level, but I was living a fucked up life.
I had a session. Now I moved to Palm Island from Indian Creek because everything I was doing, I was trying to impress Paris.
And, like, I knew that everybody wanted to be on Star Island and Palm Island and, like, close to the party. South Beach was.
Right. It was South Beach.
South Beach. Right.
I didn't know that where I was living already was the Big Daddy. Like, those houses, you have to be a, you know, everybody's there.
Like, Bezos, everybody's there now now like where i was i'm i moved to this house on palm island i go from a 90 foot yacht to a much bigger i take these leaps just trying to impress her and just blow her mind even though she didn't need that but um i was doing it yeah it was all some weird mental like thing like i felt a lot of people get caught in that spiral when they start making money. I didn't want to be famous.
I wanted to be the most famous. I wanted to be the biggest boss, not just a boss.
I had to be that guy. Boy.
And when I lost everything, it was like, it's bad news. And, look, I had Janet Jackson at my house to do a session.
Pre or post-nipple at the Super Bowl. I don't remember.
I don't remember the nipples, but I remember this sweet, cool lady. When I met Janet, I was told to not even like really like talk to her, like more like, like talk to like somebody.
And like, you know, it was like, it was like a, like, yeah, it was like pass your message and tell this person that they're going to like relay it. Like even in the same room, to the point where within a few hours...
When you're collaborating with music? Just for the first few minutes this happened. And then we became like homies.
We was like, immediate... I was like, fuck that.
Well, sometimes it's the handlers that fuck things. The handlers.
I've seen people that they give themselves extra importance by saying, if you want to talk to her, you have to talk to me first.

Yeah, like creating a droll for themselves.

And creating a little bit of insecurity on your part, too.

Don't address Ms. Jackson.

Address me.

I'll address Ms. Jackson.

That's exactly it.

And probably she might not even know about all that.

By the end of the day, I was smoking my weed.

I was telling her about the different kinds I had in these, these New York plastic jars and this and that. And like, just cool as hell.
But flash forward to now she's coming to, to Palm Island to work. I left her at my house for like seven or eight hours because I wanted to go to the gold rush and go get some blow and hang out with strippers.
It was just like you fucking serious like you're really gonna do that like you don't see it at the time because it's out of your fucking mind you're out of your fucking out of my mind out of my tits it's just so much for things like that when you have so much money and you have power and fame it's like you have too much possibility yeah there's too many things that can entice you and if you're doing blow and going to strip clubs all the time it's just like more titties in my face please yeah let's keep doing it let's keep partying let's stay up it's selfish it's and it's and you're not thinking about it because you're what are you saying good fellas hey your brain's going to mush it's imbalanced it's true it's imbalanced it's like what we're talking about so you need a balance the a-list parties turn to b-listlist parties. The B-list turns to C-list.
The C-list turns to fucking street urchins. You know what I mean? I've had some fucking funny moments, though.
I remember having a party. It was like a Super Bowl party.
I had like 700 or 800 people at my house, and everybody's fizzling out. It's like, 9 in the morning, 10 in the morning.
I think Snoop was there. Mike Epps was there.
Different people were hanging out, lingering, chilling. Like, family people.
Now it's, like, friends and shit. And, like, there's a knock on my door at, like, 10 a.m.
And it's Pamela Anderson. And that shit was the funniest shit.
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My good friend DMX, God rest his soul, and Pamela was showing up, and I was like, yo, ex, yo, ex, check this out. I was all geeked out and, like, thinking it's so funny that i got pamela coming to my house at 10 in the morning and he comes over the um the railing of my house and he's like looks over he's like bay watch and then he just walked back away walked back in the fucking thing okay x was like x was living with me man and like it was like the blind leading the blind.'m a coke addict and he's a crack addict and i'm like trying to help him i'm like man you really need to get clean man like what the fuck is really yeah so i'm like yo you need to go to rehab i'm like um so i get him i convince him like to avoid like a jail sentencing for something a charge he had whatever He went to rehab and, like, so I get him, I convince him to avoid a jail sentencing for something, a charge that he had, whatever.
He went to rehab and was getting his shit together. The place that I had gone that didn't really work for me, but I had him there.
I really did care about him. I wanted him off that shit.
Whatever, that was like a worse evil or a faster suicide than I was even on. And he ran out of the place i got a call from him but the place was directly across the street from the hard rock in hollywood florida and he's like calls me he's like yo what's up i'm like how are you calling me you don't have phone privileges like that and he's like i'm across the street from the rehab at the hard rock with one of the nurses.
And I'm like, oh, my God.

Are you fucking kidding me?

I was like, yo, X, cover yourself up.

Come back to my house.

I'm going to talk to these people who get you back in.

And he wouldn't let them back in.

It was a real tough motherfucker to own this place.

And he ended up, because it was court ordered, he had to go away.

I'm at the Montreal one morning a couple of days later,

and my security is like, yo, Doug, there's 50 federal agents here.

Woo, woo, woo, like crazy shit, bro.

It was like, I couldn't believe it.

I felt horrible.

And then you flash forward to not so long ago.

I was heavily involved in a rehab center in California, in Studio City, where we used cannabis for healing. And it came to my attention that he was on his last legs.
X was in bad shape. So I was able to make a meeting happen.
And my partner, Steve LaBelle, I don't know if you know who Steve LaBelle is, managed Bone Thugs and Harmony and all these people, like, real legend. We were partners on this place, and we had X come in.
He had emphysema. He was one rock away from death.
Like, you know, that kind of thing. So we convinced him.
We put him on a plane to washington to do a detox he went he went through the whole detox and his plan was to leave the detox and come to our facility inpatient and do rehab he never made it back on the plane to head back and we never saw him again and like And, like, that was me trying to save a man's life, and I really loved, man. He was, like, such a special guy.
Such a special performer. One of the greatest to ever do it.
Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt.
The power that that guy had in his voice. It was amazing.
But wild people make wild shit. It's intense.
I'm one of them sometimes yeah you can't control it can't calculate or yeah i mean going back to kennison i mean that did him and i mean he died in a car accident but i mean his he was falling apart because it was all cocaine cocaine and drinking and uh the wildest of the wilds all get caught up in that life because it's You you escape yourself it's an escape i was just yeah it's an escape the difference between enjoying yourself and an escape is but you know bro like the calm down like after like because after a while like that like getting fucked up and going to sleep doesn't work it's like it's like now you want to go for two days or three days the way you feel at the end of that run it's no good bro it's not good it's just no good well you're closing in on death yeah that's the reality you do two days down people don't like to think that but if you're up for two days you're about four days away from death you keep that up for four days you're gonna die you'll stroke out you'll have a heart attack something will go wrong You'll pop something will go off Yeah, when you're you're you'll get emphysema or you get pneumonia You'll get something horrible because your your immune systems destroyed Yeah, but it's like wild people make wild shit and do you get a DMX without drugs? I it's like you call it sex drugs and rock and roll rock star shit Whatever you want to call it know if't know if you get those people i don't know if you get hendrix without acid i don't know if you get it i don't know if you get it i don't know if you get it without heroin i don't know maybe i'm so lucky because now i finally realize and i'm like understand like all the things you're saying about you can just die and like i get it now and i'm like i'm not doing that and like i lived it though and i got the experience but the music is still fertile and like i'm still doing my thing because a lot of those memories and oh bro you made it through yeah you made it through you made it through you're alive you're healthy you're lucky you're blessed fucking lucky lucky shit and it's just like that's the dance man the dance is how much wild do you let in your life and if you don't let any in might be you might be boring as fuck your your art might suck i made it out alive all my favorite artists are a little off the rails and always have been from my favorite writers to my favorite musicians i mean so many of my favorite musicians died young Hendrix probably one of my all-time favorites but like that's a great example you know Jim Morrison Janis Joplin all these people died young man Kurt Cobain died young because they went too fucking hard too wild too wild out of the gate Amy Winehouse too wild dealing with stuff that like it's not like you could just be an organized drug addict. Some people just have less of an addictive personality.
But, like, the shit just takes over. Yeah, it takes over.
And, again, if you live in that wild life, it's like there's no one telling you to stop. There's no one telling you to slow down.
You have all the money in the world. Like world like what what who the fuck are you why are you telling me to slow down yeah fuck out of here i just did the star spangled banner with my teeth get the fuck off the stage right you ever see him do that ever see hendrix do the star spangled banner with his teeth yeah bro that motherfucker i'm told i'm one of the only guys who could play like music and smoke weed at the same time I don't know how they play music and sing at the same time I met this guy Post Malone Part of his business team Like him and Dre London This guy Austin Rosen Austin Rosen's a fucking awesome dude like

he owns a electric field entertainment post all these guys Lou Bell they're all part of like some

of the most talented and like just one of the coolest things going on in music of these guys

so I wanted to make a life story like biopic

i was gonna do something i had one idea i was gonna do and then he was like austin says dude i want you to go meet this guy his name's charles rovin he owns atlas entertainment i don't know if you're familiar with atlas but they made like one of the biggest movie producers in the history of movies.

He did like Suicide Squad, that whole series, the Dark Knight, Oppenheimer, like, some of the craziest movies. The list just goes on.
I'm like, oh, shit, this guy makes blockbusters. He was going to make my movie? He was like, listen, just go meet him, see what happens see what happens i meet the guy and i go in his office i'm like so nervous he says to me i don't like you very much especially from what i read but if i like you by the end of this meeting i think we'll make a movie what does that mean i don't like you very much especially from what i read because like you shit, like, you know, like.
No tabloid type shit? Yeah, but a lot of it's bullshit. Of course it is.
It made me look a certain way. But meanwhile, me and him ended up really seeing eye to eye, and I was able to articulate why a lot of these things happened.
There was one interview I missed because I wasn't even told about it. And apparently it was rescheduled three times.
And then I was told about it. And I unfortunately had to reschedule it.
Guy wrote the most horrible story about me. It was a cover of a magazine.
And it was me covered with blood all over my face and just making me just look like fucking Hitler. And, you know, it couldn be any further from the truth like i yeah i made big mistakes but i did it i was the nicest person giving i would give the shirt off my back any person ever stopped me in the streets to like get a picture like i'm gonna ask them how their day was like you know i'm saying like i'm that guy yeah i'm very very thorough and very consistent well that doesn't sell yeah what sells is you're the worst piece of shit of all time oh my god let me read about this piece of shit so that's that's a horrible thing that journals do for money they make these pieces where they completely distort a person's essence and they only do it for money yeah they're just like emotional hit people let's's not talk about everything I left my footprint in the fucking world.
But at any rate. Yeah, right.
Let's just talk about negative things and only from a very distorted perspective. Selfish.
Life is nuanced and it's weird. Life is fucking crazy.
And sometimes people make mistakes, but it's not their whole being. And to try to condense a down to like tabloid headlines like that's the essence of the person that's crazy that's like the least compassionate the the the least kind way of looking at human beings it's that's not how human beings are we're complicated that's why those little hit pieces they're gross and they don't really work because people know that they know that a person there's probably a lot more to this like why is this person why is this so negative like this is not a balanced yeah this is one side of that person yeah i'm a complex character if i was in a movie but of course but you're an artist yeah every artist is complex i've never met one that isn't well Well, a very, very raw and real look at my life is happening now with Atlas Entertainment.
We're making a movie, major movie. Who's going to play you? It's got to be several me's because my span of my career starts ultimately.
You're a kid. I'm a kid.
Maybe they can'm already a kid. Maybe they can CGI, turn you into a kid.
You can play yourself. Nah.
They can do wild shit. I didn't want to be involved in production, writing, or acting.
I needed to be respected and real, raw. Like, it's not going to make me look like the greatest guy.
It's not going to make me look like a bad guy. It's just going to make me look like who I was.
You know what I mean? Do you have any say in like because no one of the things that drives me nuts is when there's a movie and no one was there and you see like this historical figure say some things and you're like well how do i he didn't really say that some fucking writer wrote that shit this is not a real conversation a lot of time with somebody this guy dan is freaking amazing talented guy. Yeah, everything is going to be cool.
If I have my way, I have an 18-year-old son who's literally me, who I make all of my music with. This kid Jalen, he's my son, and he's like one of my best friends.
It's like when Ice Cube's son played him. And this kid looks just like me.
And at the time I was his age, acts just like me.

Perfect.

To a point where it's not even normal.

So I can't think of anybody better.

But we'll get to that.

I'm not saying he's going to, but I would love for that to be.

And I think anybody could see that this kid's capable.

Yeah.

And he is me.

He's like, you feel me, like my mouth, different fucking things like yeah but but it's weird when someone's alive and someone's playing that person who's alive and you know like oh that's not really Scott Storch you know you mean it's weird it's like a movie about you and you're you remember when Michael Jai White played Mike Tyson you know and Mike Tyson was I mean they were friends they were cool with each other but like that had to be weird

You're playing a dude who's still alive

Mike Tyson's a special guy

He's a very special guy

He's a very good friend of mine

I'm glad he got through that fight and didn't get hurt

Yeah

That's what I was I was hoping he would knock Jake Paul out

Just because that's the Cinderella story not that I don't have anything against Jake Paul

I like Jake Paul I think what he's doing is genius

I think what he's doing is like I mean he's got he's making insane amounts of money

He's having a great day. Cinderella story.
I don't have anything against Jake Paul. I like Jake Paul.
I think what he's doing is genius. I think what he's doing is like, I mean, he's got, he's

making insane amounts of money. He's having a

great fucking time. He's a legit boxer.

He's absolutely a legit boxer. Yeah, you can't

hate on somebody that works that hard.

You cannot. I would never hate on him.
If you do, you're an idiot.

No, I was like, you know what? This guy

is fucking really driven. Him and his brother.

They're like driven. Like, it's not at all.

Everybody starts somewhere. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? So they were youtubers or they were on disney channel who cares do with it but but the reality is mike is 58 years old and i was worried you know i just i love that guy and he was a hero of mine when i was a kid so to see him you know 58 years old fighting part of me was like fuck me and him fought a lot of the same demons and and we were there for each other in a lot of ways. I talked to him in pretty deep conversations with Mike, and he actually checks on me and like, yo, you good? And I do the same.
That's great. And my friend Rick.
We're all kind of like. That's beautiful.
Yeah. That's beautiful.
He's a beautiful person. He really is, man.
For a guy who was the most terrifying fighter of all time, he's a really nice guy to be around. I felt like I was in the fucking movie Hangover one time because I was hanging out with him in Vegas.
I remember we're cruising around in my fucking Bentley Mulsane at the time, and he's like, yo, let's go jam out. We went to the Palms from my hotel to the Palms, and we rented the studio there just so I could play piano or jamming out and playing old records and shit.

Oh, that's awesome.

But just cruising around Vegas, I was like, damn, this is like fucking hangover.

That's awesome.

Great dude, man.

Vegas is a great example of a place where you have to have balance in.

It's like living in Miami to me.

You live in Vegas, you should probably live in Henderson.

Yeah, right?

Live out there.

Celine Dion.

Yeah, exactly. Live close to the mountains out there.
Don't be right in the middle of all that. Attack it from the outside.
That's what I did in L.A. When I lived in L.A., I lived like an hour outside L.A.
I never lived. I did when I first moved there, and then I slowly started moving further and further away until I got about an hour outside.
Because I am not comfortable in L.A. anymore.
I used to be. It's crazy now.
I sleep with one eye open. Yeah.
I sold my house. I got rid of that fucking place in the valley.
I was just home invasions everywhere. Yeah, it's crazy.
It's like what they've done to that city in a short amount of time is shocking. I never thought it would go that bad that fast.
And the way it is now is bizarre. Yeah.
I always say that it's like a girl that used to date she was really cute but now she does meth and she works for the cartel you're like what happened to you the pandemic happened you just remember her from when she was so sweet and cool yeah well the pandemic was the the reason why the government was able to fuck up that city it's the pandemic was just that was their way to fuck up the city to there were stacks of bricks

Yeah on the street. Yeah, I came from and stacks of bricks.
It's somebody left there

Hoping someone would throw through windows start riots. Yeah, that's a weirdo shit.
It's correct

It's like I don't know key and scary. It's spooky.
I don't like to go full Batman on this

But it's like they're like there's evil villains out there that are pulling the strings of the world and that's real those fucking Protests are organized man people spend a lot of money to organize those things and then put bricks out The whole thing was designed to disrupt society and then the defund the police bullshit How anybody bought into that is so crazy reform the police. train the police better yeah but defund them are you let's just all not be safe because yeah are you out of your fucking mind do you not know the law of the jungle do you not know the real streets let me know when your house gets robbed you wanted to fucking shit you know you're not going to get a cop like it's not coming now i have had so many friends that completely flipped a 180 after they got robbed

180 they're Trump supporters now. It's crazy people that were like full-on liberals and then they you know get a gun pointed in their face And also they're like oh this is what we signed up for This is you're just letting these people out like you arrest these people and let them out and then they just do it again And they get arrested like what the fuck the assistant to uh the the da in new york just got attacked just got by some guy who had been see if you can find this he got robbed by some guy who had been arrested some insane amount of times since 2023 i was looking at the story online i was like this is so crazy that this person just keeps getting out and keeps robbing people and then just robbed the assistant to the DA.
Alvin Bragg? R-O-R-L. A suspected gang member accused of exposing himself robbing Manhattan District.
Exposing himself. He pulled his dick out and he robbed him.
Exposing himself is funny. Because they have exposed.
Go to the headline. Exposing himself is first.
The robbing part, that's second. But he showed him his penis.
That is unbelievable. Unbelievable.
What is wrong with this world? I don't mean to laugh about it, but it's just like, it's comedy, bro. It's like satire almost.
Brandon Samosa confronted the 38-year-old victim in the hallway of her building on West 44th Street around 2 a.m. Authorities say he grabbed the victim's purse, cell phone, and bank card before exposing himself.
He pulled his dick out after he robbed her. He robbed her first, but they put it exposing himself first, like the most horrible thing that he did.
Police were able to track the phone and eventually arrest him near a hotel on West 45th Street, 8th Avenue on Tuesday, leading authorities to believe the suspect is a migrant. Possession of drugs.
No, they know who the guy is, Jamie. They caught the guy.
See if you can find a more updated version of it. Because he was arrested a ton of times since 2023.
Exposing himself makes more sense now that it's a lady. Was that Jamie? Oh, okay, right there.
He's been arrested six times in the last five months for similar crimes Six times when you think after five times ago. Hey, maybe this guy's a real criminal We might need to lock him up.
Maybe we need to put him in jail. Maybe he's a real criminal.
Nope. Keep him out there Jesus Christ That's the world we're living in now and that's LA and that's New York and that's a lot of places that got fucked up by incompetent people.
I don't know. I just feel safer knowing like.
Pull this microphone. Oh, I feel safer knowing that Trump is in office.
I do too. I feel great about it.
What I don't feel safer is right now they're launching missiles into Russia. Yeah.
How are you allowed to do that when you're on the way out? Like the people don't want you to be there anymore. This should be like some sort of like a pause for like significant actions that could potentially start World War III.
Maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid from a dying former president. The whole thing is nuts.
I mean, look, I don't know shit about politics. Zelensky says Putin is terrified.
Fuck you, man. Fuck you people.
You fucking people are about to start World War III. Yeah, it's crazy.
Russia fired a missile today. Yeah, they fired an intercontinental ballistic missile for the first time ever.
It's the first time one of those has ever been used. That's insanity.
It's fucking insanity because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes on them. This one didn't.
But if it does, the whole world changes. And it changes because of the military-industrial complex.
And it changes because of the money that's going to Ukraine. And it changes because the outgoing president or whoever the fuck is actually running the country has decided to do something fucking insane.
Fucking insane. And we're all sitting there watching it and people are cheering it on

CNN was saying like finally see what their headline was about

Zelensky using about Biden giving Zelensky the ability to use long-range missiles

US made long way. It's not like nobody knows where they came from

It's not like nobody knows we've been funding this. It's a proxy war.
The whole thing is fucking insane It's insane Come to the negotiation table sit down work this out stop killing everybody us allows Ukraine to use long-range missiles So what did they say? Someone had said that like CNN was saying that it was a good thing, which I think is how? How has the left gone so far crazy that they think it's a good thing to launch missiles? That's what's scary about life is like you don't want to pay attention to that shit. You just want to live your life.
You want to just be carefree and have fun and do the thing that you're passionate about. meanwhile the world is burning and you can't do anything about it at that high level it's like there's nothing well we can we voted trump in and yeah his his idea is to stop all this shit and hopefully he can do that yeah but you know man fuck it's scary like none of the fucking um problems between the Ukraine and Russia Would have been exacerbated As far as they went Had Trump been in office I'd like to think that I genuinely believe that he has a way of Keeping the peace In a certain way Well as soon as he got elected The Taliban said let's form a truce.
You know, Hamas is saying, let's cease fire. Everybody is saying these things like right away.
China was saying we'd like to do business with America. Russia was saying that like, let's fucking calm everybody down and stop being so fucking tribal.
You're so crazy that you think that everything the left is doing is right because you're on the left. This is insanity.
And anybody that's a left-wing progressive person to think that somehow or another missiles are a good thing god damn it god damn it you people are out of your fucking minds that's the answer this net it's never the end this is craziness especially with russia god damn yep but anyways That's the shit that keeps me up at night, man. God damn.
Yep.

But anyways.

That's the shit that keeps me up at night, man.

Oh, I know.

When I get paranoid late at night when everyone's asleep,

that's the thing that gets me.

World war.

Yeah.

The war just – because it's happened before, man.

The world has been at peace before and then all of a sudden chaos.

And to think that that can never happen again, you're wrong.

It's happening right now.

It's just not happening here. And we don't feel it here, so it doesn't affect our thinking process.

and we'll see feel it here so we don't it doesn't affect our thinking process and we support things that could lead to it happening here and we don't even realize we're doing it while we're doing it as a human being like wouldn't you think that keeping yourself and the rest of the population of the world safe is priority number one it's priority that's number one and peace and by the way everybody wants peace everybody wants their children to be happy everybody wants to be well-fed and healthy everybody wants that just figure out a way to fucking balance it all out yeah Jesus Christ We got 60 more days until Trump gets in or whatever it is. How many days is it, Jamie? But who knows? Maybe once it gets in, they'll ramp it up.
Who knows? Maybe they'll sabotage his administration. That's what's even more scary.
People don't want him in power. And the people that are in power don't want to leave power and they'll try every Way they can to keep it 60 days from today All right 60 days your fingers crossed yeah, just hope Putin understands what's going on as well And Zelensky doesn't do anything stupid but saying that Putin's terrified God damn it.
It's like you're trying to like tug the tail of a fucking sleeping uh dragon dragon yeah also zelinski can i get a drug test can we just get one drug test before we send you any more money like what are you doing are you doing a lot of blow over there like this is like blow like behavior i'm not responsible for him i was but you know what i'm saying this is like cocaine like behavior. Putin's fucking scared, man.
Putin's terrified.

Jacked up.

We got him.

We got him, man.

We got him.

Like, what are you talking about?

He has nuclear missiles,

you fucking monkeys.

Jesus Christ.

It's my chance right now.

Jesus Christ.

Cause destruction.

Yeah, Putin should not have invaded Ukraine.

Yes, 100%.

But don't start World War III.

Like, there's got to be a way to settle this. There must be.
I've got to put some of this into my music, these feelings and even the conversations we're having. One of my best, my favorite anti-war songs is Ghetto Boys.
Fuck a War, Bushwick Bill. Willie D told me he wrote that in 40 minutes.
I like Ghetto Boys. Loveellers like cool G rap oh yeah man cock blocking they were the best storytellers Scarface yeah the L Street Blues no I love cool G rap I'm on the verge of committing murder.
It's like a whole fucking plot. He had a great flow, too.
Yeah. Yeah, he had a great flow.
Yeah. Yeah, Cool G Rap was awesome.
Hip-hop's different these days, man. I heard he's like a...
Someone's told me he's a devout religious man now. Really? See if that's true.
I always wondered what happened to that dude. That was a guy that I felt like didn't get his due Like on the world stage like people don't respect him for as good as he really was Because I would tell like some young guys about Coogee rap They don't even know who he is and I play music in the the green room You ever hear the brand new heavies like the jazz band when they lay linked up with a bunch of rappers the heavy ever heard that album? Of course.
Cool G Raps, Death Threat is the best track on that. I played that shit in the green room of the mothership and I was like, what is this, man? He's saying some shit.
Yes, he's saying some shit and it's with the brand new Heavys playing the music. That funky, yes.
Fucking tremendous. Jazz.
Tremendous. They did a great thing with Gangstar, too.
Yep. They have a great song with Gangstar, too, that's on that.
Yeah. That's where I entered into my passion and love for hip-hop is that era.
Yeah. I was saying that earlier.
That's one of my favorite eras. Nas, Illmatic, Godson.
That's almost like the Sant pepper's a rap yeah yeah man oh my god how old was he when he made that he was young really young let's say one love yeah genius how about rewind yeah rewind is one of the most genius rap songs of all time it tells a story backwards yeah insane and it's genius and it's it's fun and it's it's the flow's great mind melting shit uh i think naz is my all-time favorite lyricist it's like naz and then everybody else is like i mean i love them all but like to me naz is a special lyricist like his lyrics are special like like He's got so many oh moments where you're listening to me and you're like, oh, oh. It's not even just punchlines.
It's like the whole subject matters of the way he describes. The way he hits things.
He can paint a picture. He paints a picture.
But the way he chooses his words. We were listening to Get Down last night.
Oh, my God. Goddamn, that's good.
A choice m is m is to me like one of the really like the greats of that oh for saying things in a different amount of syllables or yeah that you wouldn't expect it's just real creative shit yeah i love jade kiss at style speed i think jade kiss is like in my my top tops DMX. My workout music is Wu-Tang Clan.
Oh yeah. That's my workout music.
Gravel pit when you're hitting the bag. Of course.
And whenever we do shows, we have like a ritual. Like when we're driving to the arena, especially if we're getting a police escort, which is the craziest shit of all time you're

going to do a show and you got a police escort and we always listen to protect your neck like oh we got to play it like okay here we go let's go protect your neck let's go we're on our way to the arena and then once we get in the door i'm your boogeyman casey and the sunshine band I'm your boogeyman

just to get everything going

let's go

KC and the Sunshine Band. Boogie man.
I know KC. Boogie man.
Yeah, like just to get everything going. Like, let's go.
KC. You mentioned his name.
I have to do it. I see him at the Hit Factory in Miami one time.
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And we meet and he's like, I saw your MTV cribs and I'm just going to tell you that i spend more on my flowers and my orchids than you probably do on your cars every month it's just like what wow what a weird flex what a weird flex i was like okay okay cool i think you're wasting money because them flowers are gonna die right and i got a bugatti so to each his own bizarre quotes that doesn't even make any even make any sense. You're getting robbed.
Okay? Your florist is a piece of shit. Hey, everybody's got their own thing.
I know. You're getting robbed.
If you're spending that much money on your flowers, you are getting fucking robbed, sir. He's being facetious, but he was making a point.
But that's a crazy flex. It's also a weird way to introduce yourself to somebody.
Yeah, I had just met him. But isn't that one of those things where you used to be on top and you want to show everybody you're still on top? Right.
Just like you were talking about, like wearing the diamonds and the jewelry. Go up to the guy who's hot right now and say, yeah, I saw your MTV cribs, but guess what? My flowers.
Yeah, I spend more money on dirt. Dude, I've seen some crazy shit in my life, bro.
I've had some crazy fucking moments for a fucking poor boy that came from nothing and rose to, like, a place where it's, like, I've seen life on every side of, like, I've seen life as a poor boy, seen life as making it, made it, blew it, this, that. I remember sitting in St.
Bards. I had been invited on the boat of pretty successful, very wealthy Russian people that I knew, I know.
And sitting there, chilling, doing my normal, like, just hanging thing. And I see a battleship pull up, like an actual, like, fucking army or navy or whatever the fuck boat pull up near us.
Somebody gets off the tender, gets on the boat I'm on. And it was Gaddafi's son.
Whoa like what the fuck this is surreal and what year is this was Gaddafi still alive yeah I don't forget what year it was I think it was like 2008 okay yeah so he's probably still alive yeah definitely still alive and he was telling me how his country is becoming much more like open minded and normal and this and that. And I had a keyboard.
I was jamming out, playing and shit. I'm just such a fucking weirdo.
I was playing Java Nagila. I'm just a weirdo, dude.
That was funny. But I've seen some shit, man.
I've seen the fucking craziest. It's a great American story.'s the great american story you know like uh coming from nothing chasing your dream making your dream fucking up your life along the way but still alive tell the story you know see fucking bmf out at the club all the time like be in the club and be like you know these guys over there they just sent you 20 bottles of cristal and you, who are they? And they're like, this is the fucking, this is the guys.
I'm like, okay, cool. Thank you, guys.
Like, they were fucking cool as shit to me every time I see them. Weird.
Yeah. I never had any drama.
I never had any, like, crazy situations happen because I think in terms of, like, I was providing opportunity for a lot of fucking people, like, trying to, like, make it. Like, rappers from the streets, like, so people were just always cool with me.
And, like, I was respectful to everybody around me. Did you ever have a communication with that guy who called you the white devil? No.
That was it? That was it. You ever talked to him after that? I knew what I had to do.
I had to, like, make my make my own world and like yeah that love me and be around those people and that's a terrible way to think yeah it's such a terrible way to think that someone just because of the color of their skin even though they're they work with you and you're cool together that you could just out that person shit that the other side is endured over like of course beginning like, okay, so what, whatever. But it just hurt my feelings because it was my fam.
Right. I thought, and, like, I guess, like, I just felt like, I just felt fucked up.
And I was like, you know what? If anybody knows me, they know that, like, I'm not that devil. Like, I'm the guy that's just loving, like, free-spirited-minded like non-racist right but that doesn't sell headlines buddy yeah i know the white devil sells headlines the white devil gets people feeling better about themselves i moved to la and and started working in trey's camp and i felt so much love and respect and like um I was I was made to feel like what I was bringing to the table and that crew was like they were like identifying that shit and they were like praising me and making me feel great.
Well you know the expression game recognizes game. Yeah right.
Yeah that's what it is. People see you and they hear you and they know, like, oh, this guy's a wizard.
Like, what's going on? Okay. You're staying here for a long time, Scott.
I let a lot of people down, man, when I got heavy into drugs, like the Dr. Dre's of the world.
It's like they're trying to hang in there with me like, fuck, bro. Like, at some point, you know, they got to, like, put me on time out.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, that's probably good for you good for you too yeah when you disappoint people that you respect and care for yeah it's that's like that's a real emotional rock bottom you know that's and that's sometimes people need that to course correct if everything's going great you have no reason to stop doing blow and partying all night everything's perfect and you know there's a lot of people that will enable you to keep that life going because they're feeding off of you.
Misery loves company. There's that, but then there's also people that, like, all they want to do is keep you happy because they make a living off of you, and so they don't want to rock the boat.
Right. They don't care, like, if you're destroying yourself.
But the truth is there's two different modes. There's the guy that can make music and smokes his weed and fucking eat pizza and just like a normal guy.
And then when I flip to that other thing, cocaine is not a drug you can really make, I feel like, good music on. It may seem good when you're making it, it right you listen to it the next day because any the emotions it's like a whirlwind of emotions that you feel when you're in that world like you really feel like happiness sadness this that the other like all these things all within 10 minutes you could have all these emotions it's no good.
So how are you going to stay on something that you want to make people feel a

certain way?

Right.

So that's, I mean, I've never done Coke,

but everybody that I know does Coke says you can't perform on it.

It fucks you up.

You don't feel right.

You're, you know.

No, because you're feeling 20 different emotions inside of a minute.

And it's like, you can only think about one thing when you're on it. It's that.
That's it. So, yeah, there's no real good Coke stories.
Not recommended for anybody. I don't know anybody who's got like a great Coke story.
No. Maybe one night.
But most Coke stories lead to my life fell apart. No happy ending.
No. No happy ending.
There's no like like, Coke advocates. Right.
You know, there's a lot of marijuana advocates. They'll tell you, marijuana changed my life.
Marijuana made me more compassionate. That's me.
Marijuana made me a kinder person, more sensitive, you know, more into community, more into love. Nobody says that about Coke.
There's no cocaine fixed my life life my life is kind of a mess and i started

doing blow and then man it all just came together you know i realized that's what i need i was a

little i think i'm a little imbalanced i just need cocaine every day i remember being so perplexed

i i don't like throwing people under the bus so i won't say who it is but one of the most

massive people in the world of technology like in the world of

Thank you. One of the most massive people in the world of technology, like in the world of these younger computer guys that became extremely famous, like people that started Facebooks and this and that, all that type of shit.
Like one of those guys. I'm not going to say who, but like somebody who's fucking so huge.
I went to visit him with some friends of mine. I'm sitting at a table, whacking it up, and the dude's telling me that he just had a heart attack a couple of nights before.
And then he started talking about how cocaine is one of the most poorly publicized drugs in the world. And I was like, what the fuck am I listening to? Me, even being the influence was like, this is frightening.
This was one of those guys, like one of the big, big, like change the world kind of people. So he was telling you he just had a heart attack, but cocaine is awesome.
Yeah. And he's super smart.
Yeah. Which is even scarier because you can convince yourself that you're right.
The whole world knows who this guy is.

Wow.

The whole world.

But, you know, I don't know.

I've had many situations where people so selfishly,

even knowing I'm recovering or recovered or whatever the fuck you want to call it,

want to, like, have the opportunity to do something.

They'll pull me aside. Like, I always wanted to do a bump with you yeah man but no we can't do that bro when's the last time you did one oh shit i mean i've fallen within the past six months but you know i got good people around me now that's good and like the shame and the guilt and everything just prevents you from from enjoying that and making like even thinking about doing it like can't do that's good that's good hey man six months is great yeah six days is great the whole thing is just you're gonna fall and if you fall get up yeah get up it're a human being.
Human beings fuck up. They make mistakes, especially when you're dealing with something like addiction.
And most people think that could never be me. That could never be me.
I'm not like that. Yeah, it could definitely be you.
There's things that trigger it, and it's usually pussy. You know what I'm saying? You have no intention whatsoever of um doing something and then all of a sudden it's right there in front of you there's a fucking ass naked girl and there's a pile of this and there's you had like two drinks i've done it before and i could just do it this one time yeah i'm gonna be okay yeah it won't be okay three days later you're looking out the window like, ah, what the fuck? Bloodshot eyes, like you got pink eye.
Yeah. Yeah.
But too much going on now, man. That's kind of being the movie.
With my single, with like my album, you know, it's just. Well, it seems like you're in a good place.
That's great. I'm in a great place, man.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
Well, I think it's so important for people like you to tell your story raw and unedited like you do because i think people want to see a person that's been very successful and they want to have this rosy view of what their life was like people love to like build you up but they love tearing you down oh yeah like it becomes like a and then for me like in my business it's such a desperate business if people know i'm of sound mind and like at the top of my game and i'm making some fucking fire ass music that's a threat for certain people of course so they'll block it like and they'll perpetuate the rumors and do whatever the fuck to make sure that i don't get behind there they're like a goalie for the artists like right so many huge artists they like they don't want me to get with them because they know what's gonna happen i'm gonna make better shit people don't like when someone's talented and they don't like when someone's successful because everybody compares themselves to other people That's the real the real problem is that comparison is the thief of joy. Is that Thoreau? So what was so that Thomas Jefferson Yeah, throw is most men leave live lead lives of quiet desperation But comparison is a thief of joy is that's a real thing, man And if you're a person that's looking at someone else's success and somehow or another wanting to diminish that you're doing it to yourself whether you really realize it or not you are wasting your own precious life energy on hating on a person and that will take away your gift it'll take away your creativity it'll take away your ability to be present because they're fools.
That's why they do in the first place. Job security.
It's, it's a foolish venture. And even if it works, even if it works, you're doing yourself into, cause you know, you're a piece of shit.
You know that you've done that to a person. You know, you've distorted who that person is for just because you want to feel better about your own life.
You want someone to falter so that you don't feel when you're comparing yourself to them, you don't feel inadequate. And that's the reason.
It's just pettiness. It's just human weakness.
And it's one of its grossest forms. And it's not called out enough.
You know, it's really, it's a disgusting behavior pattern that's bad for humanity. I genuinely feel joy and excitement and happiness for friends or colleagues that have success yeah you should and it's inspiring i just see so many others that just don't like look at it like that because they're selfish but it's haters but that's a good thing And you you could say that that's selfish in a way because when you help people and when you're inspired by other people's success and when you enjoy other people's success, you are experiencing a positive thing.

And that positive thing is one of the most important aspects of life.

Like to deny yourself that because you can't control your emotions and you can't control your jealousy and your feelings and to like hate on someone you're denying yourself an opportunity to feel good and you could genuinely feel happy for everyone's success and still be successful it doesn't take away your success at all it's just It's a mental trap, and people need to understand that trap. It is insecurity.

But it's also a lack of understanding of how your mind works How the human mind can play little tricks on you and lay traps for you and how jealousy can rear its ugly head and distort your views We fall into certain ways. Yes Like we fall into certain ways when I was in the fucking the limelight and now i'm like in like team hilton and i'm hanging out with certain people i'm hanging out with like some fucking like spoiled brat lucky sperm club ass fucking degenerates and like basically competing with who could be the most obnoxious in the crew like you don't see

that happening until like i looked back at videos and things i mean i was like dude what a chump i was like doing that i was like slowly but surely like turning into that yeah just to be like i don't know just that's the shit that's fucked up like you just have to like really always maintain who you really are and like not get lost in that shit and like live for others or try and be, did we, were we talking about this on the podcast the other day or was it a green room conversation? Someone said that person personalities are as infectious as diseases. It can be.
Someone was saying that like energy, like people's energy is as infectious as diseases. And when you're around someone that has a great personality and very positive, you get infected by that positivity.
You start exuding that. And when you're around shitheads, like fucking dumbasses who are just thinking a stupid fucking way, you start thinking that way.
It's contagious. There's something to it.
You got to be careful about the company we keep. Oh, my God.
This world is so polluted right now. It's the most important thing.
It's the most important thing is your community, right? Your family, your friends, your community, the people that you associate with. And if you're associating with shitheads, you're going to have a fucked up experience.
The less people I come in contact with for me is the better. Like I like being home.
I like going to nice restaurants and I like being home. I don't really like going out and fucking, because all that energy rubs off on you and people's karma, whatever the fuck it is.
Yeah. the anxiety everything although the weirdness of people comparing with each other who's got the better watch who's wearing the nicer shoes like what the fuck are we doing over that it's stupid that's good you're smart you're wiser yep takes time to figure these things out like but but better late than never yeah but but you still have the art you still have the desire for the art like that through the whole thing lost that um passion that we spoke of earlier for a while and now it's back like a motherfucker beautiful yeah i'm in there like that's the american success story and when you rather that than at the type height of your fame with the party and the drugs and the fucking chaos and falling apart.

It's better to just, like, embrace the art.

That's where, like, the creating. And if it's not real, I don't want to fuck with it.

Right.

Like, I'm, like, not going to, like, chase checks to work on music.

Like, I'm going to work on what's great.

And that's how you fucking do what's right.

You stay in your lane and you do what's, you know.

Is there any way to play the single I got coming? Sure. I think I have it.
But I'm going to show you this girl is 21. Is there a picture that you can? I don't have a picture.
You don't have a picture? It's like a, it's like a, I have a single cover. Yeah, I just have the song.
I can Google it or something. No, it's all good.
I'll show you. But the girl is, like, organic.
Like, she doesn't need auto-tune.

She's not, like, she's real.

So this is just an example.

Auto-tune is a wild thing.

Yeah.

Abby Stare.

Texture.

I mean, I don't see this every day in, like, artists.

It's usually, like, some...

What do you hear?

Wow. She's a writer, too.
it ain't for the weak so don't try this

I guess

it's a funny game still

it's your last

last

last

I guess

you forgot to read the label

that's your bad

bad

bad

bad

my faith would die to waste

if I'd go back to that place

Thank you. Bad, bad, bad My faith would die to waste If I'd go back to that place I know, I know, I know I'd rather fly away Wait ten times longer To feel the right way on my own My faith would die to waste If i'd go back to that place i know i know i know i'd rather fly away or wait ten times longer to feel the right way on my own mama told me if you can't live without something then you gotta gotta give it up.
Can't live with it either. I guess I'm the problem when it's all said and done.
You laugh at your fun. I got the last one.
Something told me, when you was popping shit, I just knew you would never live it up. Courtesy of the bottle.

You fucked around and found out about him.

But you still shy, you shy.

You drunk off my side.

So what you're listening to is a girl.

That's an amazing voice, man.

She writes that shit. See, the conviction.

You get a songwriter, a big fancy songwriter to work with some girl and teach her how to have emotion. It's not the same.
There she is. It's a lot of Amy Winehouse vibes.
Yeah. Amy Winehouse vibes in that song.
In this fact that it's both organic. It's different.
No, not different. Not like she's copying Amy Winehouse, but like that vibe of authenticity.
Yeah. Yeah.
And she's a real- She's 21? 21. Damn.
And emotion is there that comes from. And she writes all that.
Yeah. She's like.
That's incredible. That shit is not something like that could be taught.
Put that up again, Jamie. Melody.
Is that available right now? Can I get that? Yeah. Yeah.
I'm going to add that shit to my Spotify playlist. Right.
I'm going to put that on the Green Room playlist right now. On my own.

Yep.

That's going to be the first one.

I'm showcasing her.

This is my single.

It's Scott Storch featuring Abby Stare.

But I'm part of the making of her physical, her album,

which already has a bunch of stuff that she made on her own that she made,

and then stuff I did with her, and 1217 Records, me and my partner, Kevin. That voice is amazing, man.
She's dope. And I got some great records.
I got records with A-list celebrities. It's not exciting to play, for me, a record with somebody who has already sold millions and millions of records for my project.
I made a habit in my career of breaking artists. I did Chris Brown's first song, and I told him sitting in the studio, I'm going to make you a hit record today.
He was like 15, 16, and I did that. We made Run It that day.
I've done a lot of, you know. When I came back into the business after my, like, dark period of just not doing anything except doing drugs, which lasted eight, nine years, I met Steve LaBelle.
And Steve, not only were we partners on the rehab center,

but he was helping me get back into the music thing,

and I was like, yo, get me a meeting with Jay-Z.

Get me Beyonce.

Get me all the people I made hits for.

He's like, fuck no.

They're not going to work with you right now.

Show them what you're doing.

I'm going to give you the best blueprint.

Some people like to jump the gun.

Yeah, he's like, this artist, this artist, this artist, this artist this artist these are all new artists you don't know who they are but if you make them fire everybody's gonna look at you like you're a fucking get the heisman trophy again like you know i'm saying yeah one by one every single one of those artists that he put me with that were nobodies at this point are all huge right now. Trippie Redd, A Boogie, Roddy Rich, Russ, who's one of my favorites.
Like, I love Russ. I don't know if you're familiar with his music.
He's just like, he's got something to say. He's like, he's the man.
Like, you got to, like, fuck with Russ. He's a a really serious artist today I've seen this guy without radio because he has a fan base a cult fan base because what he does is so real without radio or any shit he's selling out arenas by himself that's amazing yeah it's amazing he's just I love that that's happening today yeah they've kind of taken the gatekeeper the gatekeeper is out of the equation now yeah all something has to do is be good and get it online he released uh 200 songs in one year just like soundcloud or whatever wow 200 songs in a year yeah holy shit you know and he just started that consistency Yeah He just became an acquired taste.
So you just, you love watching people make it. Yeah, I like being responsible for that.
It's more of a challenge than just, oh, I'm going to make Drake a hit. You know, I really want to work with Drake, but I've been roadblocked with Drake.
I know Drake loves me and my production, but for whatever reason, I haven't been able to get in. I want to get a hold of Drake and talk to him about his fight picks.
That motherfucker loses more money on fights. I want to call him up.
Before it's over, I need to get a record off with him. I want to get a record off with him.
Wasn't Jon Jones a 600-1 favorite? I mean, well, he had it by KO. It but yeah well that's what i would have said anyway i mean i would not have thought john would i mean that's an easy bet i want to get a record off with rihanna too i had a very uncomfortable meeting with rihanna and i'm mortified to this day uncomfortable because of the cocaine no what happened i she was in a vip in new york years and years ago and doing her thing and whatever and they like obviously people know who i am so they didn't front me they let me up into her table this was a greenhouse and back in the day and i introduced myself and whatever and i gave her a hug and i fucking got hooked onto her hoop earring my clothes got hooked on I'm like, don't move, don't move, don't move.
No, it was shit's going to, I almost ripped her fucking ear off accidentally. That walk out of that VIP room was the most mortified, most embarrassing shit I ever fucking felt in my life.
Oh, she's cool. I bet she, I bet she doesn't even remember that.
Did I just really do that? Like, I didn't mean to get her earring. I know, but still.
That's an accident. You're that guy at that moment.
Oh, no. That guy.
So, yeah, it haunts me. If I only didn't hook up with that earring.
You want to make a good impression and you get her ear ripped off. Yeah.
Yeah. Whatever.
Life is full of surprises. Yeah.
So, is it like your favorite thing seems to be breaking new people then. Is it because you get to show the world new talent? Is it does it remind you of you when you were getting your breaks?

you're helping sculpt what somebody's sound is going to be the backbone of what they're where they started like like creating something new and uh i think that's a to me like my sound has always

been to not have a sound and have different genetic strains of music. I call them different things that I brought to the table that nobody else was doing.
And then when people start doing it so much, you're honored, copying you, and then you move on to the next thing but like with artists you get to like concoct some kind of new vibe with them i did beyonce's first solo album we made a sound we did three smashes i did three straight smashes out of three songs i did one was Baby Boy, Naughty Girl and me, myself and I and at that point I had just moved from LA and like I had been working with Dre for so many years and I'm looking at Dre and I'm like Dre has his empire empire. And I need to go off and create my empire, not competing, but doing something different within music and not using that sound that he and I created and sculpted together, which was like the new wave of West Coast music.
I moved back to Florida, to Miami, where I hadn't been in eons because I went from Florida as a kid I lived there until I was 15 and I moved to Philly with my dad and then from Philly to LA and now I'm going from back to go start my own little world I'm now rich okay and I go home to Florida I'm rich and I'm ready to fucking make my own little world i'm now rich okay and i go home to florida i'm rich and i'm ready to fucking make my own little sound and shit create some shit beyonce was one of the first contestants and we fucking solidified that shit and made history with that album like i remember she did the grammys she thanked God, and then she thanked me first.

And I was like, I have it up.

It was like one of the biggest honors in the world.

And we made history.

And that's the ultimate thing that I want to continue to do.

I want to do that with Abby.

I feel like once I get driven like that, there's nothing can stop me. And I'm going to prove my point.
That's beautiful. Scott, it's been great talking to you, man.
I really appreciate it. I appreciate you coming down here.
It's been a lot of fun. Thanks, man.
Wow, we did three hours. It's close, like two and a half hours now.
It's crazy. I could talk, right? Yeah, man.
Well, you got good stories. You got a good story.
And you have a good story.

Your story is a good story.

And like I said, I think it's a great story for people to hear.

That's why people like biographies.

People like to find out, like, was it easy for you?

Why am I struggling?

Like, what is this struggle like?

Is it the same for everybody?

When you're struggling yourself, you think you're alone.

And when you have a dream and you don't know if it's going to come true,

you go, was everybody like this?

Nothing great comes easy.

Nothing.

Nothing.

Thank you for having me.

My pleasure, brother.

Pleasure to meet you.

Pleasure to hang with you.

My man.

Appreciate you very much.

Sure.

All right.

Bye, everybody.

Bye. Thank you.