#2233 - Scott Storch

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Speaker 1 Those are the three I probably are most iconic.

Speaker 1 So what do you, what are the, we're rolling now, so tell me what's like the most iconic beats you've created. Oh, you're already rolling? We're rolling.
Hey, fuck it.

Speaker 1 How you doing? Gay.

Speaker 1 I mean, look, I've got

Speaker 1 not hundreds, but thousands of songs. I've thousands, thousands,

Speaker 1 thousands of songs.

Speaker 1 I'm told most often that

Speaker 1 most iconic or identifiable one is obviously still Dre.

Speaker 1 We got

Speaker 1 give me a little net real quick.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Now if you watch my fingers while I'm playing that, if I was just like a fucking sterile, like just basic motherfucker, I'd be playing.

Speaker 1 But I wanted to do it like

Speaker 1 sloppy. Right.
Like that perfect imperfection. Like you don't want, sometimes you want a nice sloppy booty or a nice monkey.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like you don't want things always like perfect, picture perfect. Right.
You like a little grit on your hardwood floor. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
No.

Speaker 1 That's where, you know, that perfect imperfection. How did you get started? Huh? How did you get started making beats? Like, what started you in music? What started me in music? Okay.

Speaker 1 All the way back. All the way back.
All the way back

Speaker 1 listening to like Ozzy Osborne and Cheap Trick in the mirror with a tennis racket, thinking, wow, I could probably get some girls to like me if I knew how to fucking play this shit.

Speaker 1 And then my parents had like an upright piano in the house, and it was a piece of furniture, and I had a cassette,

Speaker 1 you know, at that time it was all about cassettes, and I had a little baby cassette thing. I put it on the piano bench and figure out how to play all my favorite songs.
Just self-taught. Yeah, and

Speaker 1 I ended up.

Speaker 1 taking three or four lessons

Speaker 1 and the guy was like, you should just teach yourself. Really? Yeah, like, and my family didn't, we didn't have no money.
Like, and my mom, to get to the piano lesson, all that shit was just,

Speaker 1 I did my thing. And, like, it's at a point where

Speaker 1 my mom and dad were like, can you go outside and play with the kids? I'm tired of hearing this shit. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And then that evolved into

Speaker 1 I moved with my father. My parents had divorced.
My dad was a court reporter, stenographer.

Speaker 1 and we moved from I grew I was born in New York as an infant moved to Florida but when I was 15 just turning 15 I moved to Philly with my dad

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 I was really getting into music I was experiencing like hip-hop now in my head like what year was this

Speaker 1 I don't even know what year it was. How old do you know? I'm 50.
Okay, seven years different than me. So, yeah, okay.
I'm real horrible with the years, but

Speaker 1 talking early 90s. Yeah.
Extremely early. It was the beginning of, like, the big hip-hop boom out of New York.
And when I first found a love for hip-hop,

Speaker 1 it was

Speaker 1 this music that they were sampling all these, like, cool, like, Fender Road sounds. Like, like, say, Tribe Call Quest.

Speaker 1 That's not one of mine, but it was that, like,

Speaker 1 relax yourself, girl. You know,

Speaker 1 that like native tongue, the de la soul,

Speaker 1 all that type of shit was heavy. And like, I was like, wow, music is really great in this.
It was different than like, I mean, I loved NWA and I loved like, but that was like hardcore shit.

Speaker 1 And then like this musical-y guru and jazz and like all this shit was coming around. So I got into that.

Speaker 1 And I couldn't really afford a keyboard. I'm living in Philly.
My dad was like, I was cutting school and going into the city from the burbs to like

Speaker 1 get in the music scene at this young age. And it was like, yo,

Speaker 1 go back to school and start that shit or get the fuck out. He's trying to do me a favor with tough love, but I decided to get the fuck out.

Speaker 1 15. And now I'm like couch hopping at homies.
And that

Speaker 1 led to moving into the fucking hood in West Philly with this guy who was an aspiring manager that was a videographer that I met at my dad's court reporting firm.

Speaker 1 And kind of like halfway against my dad's will, he took me in and we started hitting the pavement, man. And I joined the roots.

Speaker 1 They were called the square roots at that time. You know, the band on Jimmy Chow, Quest Love, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I didn't have much money and I bought what they call Offender Rhodes. This is like big keyboard, which is they're very expensive now'cause it's a vintage.

Speaker 1 But at that time I could get that for for like 200 bucks. And I got the keyboard, had a couple of broken notes on it and shit.
And I just made my sound with that. And it was just like this soulful

Speaker 1 thing. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 joined the roots.

Speaker 1 And now I'm a band member.

Speaker 1 Simultaneously, I'm doing construction in Philly for a friend of mine who has like these like

Speaker 1 shell houses that I got to live in one for a while. When I got my my first place, I'm like living in this thing.
He lived across the street in a kind of a nice one.

Speaker 1 This is like super horrible neighborhood, but he's got almost like the whole block and like there's construction site on the first floor.

Speaker 1 I had to walk up and this was like semi-finished one with no electricity, but he ran a cord across the street and a power strip. for my electricity.
I ran everything on that one power strip.

Speaker 1 Like I had a fucking space heater like this because it was freezing cold. I had like a keyboard set up like so I could do my thing.
And I was just, I made my existence.

Speaker 1 And if I had never made it, I was like, man, I'll just play at bar mitzvahs and weddings and fucking call it a day. But I'd rather do that than be a court reporter or some other shit.
Right.

Speaker 1 And school wasn't for me. I couldn't focus on anything but the music.
It always bums me out that there's so many people out there like that.

Speaker 1 that do have they have intelligence and ability but the system just wants wants them to plug into normal jobs you don't realize like hey there's other jobs out there there's other things that you can do it's not conventional the path's not clear you know but you want to get into music you really fucking love music get get into music yeah get into music and nobody tells you that nobody tells you and they don't tell you like find your niche within music yeah maybe you can do the actual music, but you can become a promoter or you can become, there's so many different fields within music that you you can do.

Speaker 1 If you're an expert, if you have no talent and you have no business being in music, at least be honest with yourself because we know if we're good or not.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 But what makes talent?

Speaker 1 Passion. It's no talent.
Passion. Yeah, if you're a passionate person and you love something so much, you're going to end up being good at it, I think.

Speaker 1 If you're doing it to get money or something else, it's like, it's questionable or you just want to be cool because you like music.

Speaker 1 But if you're so passionate about this shit that you're showing results and you're growing and you're seeing that, when you watch people's reactions, I still do to this day.

Speaker 1 If I'm in the studio, I'm playing some shit. Like I have this like weird thing where I start receiving satellite and I'm like playing and I don't even see

Speaker 1 satellite. So where do you use? I'm not even there anymore.
I'm just like all of a sudden I'm just doing this thing. I've been doing it for 30 years and I watch the room.
I'm like, oh, they like it.

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Speaker 1 use this. You know what I mean? That's how I know if I'm moving people.

Speaker 1 Receiving satellite is a great way to put it. Because that's what it feels like.
Like, I always say that, like, there's sometimes I write things, I'm like, I didn't really write that.

Speaker 1 I blacked out and it got ready. Yeah, that's that came from somewhere else.
I didn't have any effort involved in this. It just came to me like a gift from the gods.
Yeah, it's

Speaker 1 that's why they always call it the muse, you know, because the people that were, you know, like Shakespeare and those people, they really did kind of feel like it was being given to them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We all do, though, right? For real. But doesn't everybody kind of say that when they're being honest?

Speaker 1 Like anybody who writes anything, whether they write literature, whether they write music, comedy, whatever. It just flows through you.
Yes.

Speaker 1 If you have to work for it, it's contrived, sort of like I feel somewhat. Like if something doesn't come,

Speaker 1 I push myself, yes, because there's technical stuff that you have to, but that initial light bulb that goes off and just

Speaker 1 that zone. Yeah, downloading satellite.
And it's the thing about it is it's it's so

Speaker 1 hard to control it's just it's it comes it goes it's there it's not what's that water you're drinking what is this crazy you know what it's bag water i'm gonna tell you what it is i get like

Speaker 1 inflammation like i'm playing piano whatever like i sometimes get like a little bit like okay and this is like hydrogen water okay and i fuck with it a friend of mine my boy adam like he's like listen i think you should try my water he's invested in all kinds of things and he's just he's been my best one of my best friends my whole life this guy Adam Linder fuck cool guy I've been down and out and fucking do with take me in and you know we're both from Shuganas but you know he has this fucking water and

Speaker 1 him and randomly enough my boy who's a big songwriter Pooh Bear they're giving a go at this water thing so but I like it it's H-factor water dude Yeah, I've heard of this stuff. It's really good.

Speaker 1 So when you say you're getting inflammation in your hands, like carpal tunnel type? Yeah, kind of like, yeah, sometimes pain.

Speaker 1 Like like sometimes if it's cold and my hands it's like freezing or something I can't really like go in and like do you ever use CBD huh you ever use CBD or turmeric I your turmeric yeah like I do that type of stuff I do like the little shots like yeah you should do it all the time raw ginger raw yeah

Speaker 1 there's a place in LA that I like that I don't have it in Miami it's like

Speaker 1 my I'm real tight with I don't know if you know Rick Solomon he does this thing Sun Life and fucking they have great shit there so I do that Oh, the Sun Life place in

Speaker 1 California. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, I do. Yeah.
Yeah. Rick is fucking, he's been an inspiration to me.
And like, you know, everybody knows my story.

Speaker 1 And, you know, he, I look up to him because he was able to walk away from drugs very easily and stay there. For me, I have a hard time with it.

Speaker 1 I still struggle. And like,

Speaker 1 it's not drugs. It's

Speaker 1 to put it bluntly, it's pussy and drugs together okay

Speaker 1 it's a kill of a combination and drug sex and all that shit and like

Speaker 1 you know you get caught up in that wave and like

Speaker 1 it starts glamorously in your career of doing drugs and it's just a fucking

Speaker 1 it just turns into something real ugly so

Speaker 1 he walked away from me for a while he was like bro you're fucking up again

Speaker 1 but I'm in a great place now, man. I got good people around me and

Speaker 1 I smoke, and

Speaker 1 you know, I make my music, and I chill these days, man.

Speaker 1 That's great. I've graduated.
I was trying to tell you about your hands. Like, if you're getting inflammation and you're taking hydrogen water, like, hydrogen water would be great.

Speaker 1 But if you really want to cut it down, what we were talking about earlier is the way to cut it down. Stop eating things that give you inflammation.
That's the big one. That'll change everything.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Cut out all the sugar in the bread, and you'll be amazed at how well you feel. Bread.
Like, I'm not really like a sugar guy. Like, some people eat sweets and shit.

Speaker 1 Me, I'll go

Speaker 1 lately because I'm trying to lose like a lot of weight. I've been eating fruit like constantly, eating fruit's great.
And I feel so much better. Because

Speaker 1 I drink water until I'm blue in the face and I'm not hydrated. I eat fruits and shit like that.
I feel like it just sticks to your organs. And like

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 a lot of watermelon.

Speaker 1 Watermelon's fantastic. I love watermelon and apples.
Do you take any sort of electrolytes?

Speaker 1 I do. I do.
I mean, regularly?

Speaker 1 Gatorade, but

Speaker 1 yeah, Gatorade, but there's this other stuff. I don't even know what it's called, but it's like a powder.
It's like supposed to be less aluminum.

Speaker 1 And you just put it in your water, and it's like an accelerator of hydration. Like liquid IV or something like that? Something, yeah.
I don't even know. There's a bunch of those that are really good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's, you know,

Speaker 1 you could take care of that. Like, obviously, your fingers are still working, but if you're starting to feel like real discomfort, there's some things you could do.
CBD is a big one.

Speaker 1 CBD helps so much. My friend Dave Foley,

Speaker 1 he had arthritis to the point where his hands were like totally curled. He couldn't straighten his hands out.

Speaker 1 He started taking CBD and it all went away. That's crazy.
Yeah. The benefits of

Speaker 1 and it's incredible. It really is incredible.

Speaker 1 The diet is a big one. I think I'm getting my fair share of

Speaker 1 CBD and TV. From the cuisine.

Speaker 1 Not just that, not from the flour, but I like edibles, but not like dissolute. I know what you're saying.
I'm into rosin edibles.

Speaker 1 The difference is the CBD, you can isolate just the CBD and they can make it much higher concentrates. Oh, really? Yeah, like I love this shit.
When I have muscle soreness, there's a CBD.

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But they have great gummies and oils. And CBD is fantastic.
Anytime you can eliminate inflammation in your life, that's good.

Speaker 1 Whether it's your personal life or your body, just eliminate all the inflammation. So many people tell me this wave of like sea moss.
Sea moss. Yeah, like people like the benefits of seafloor.

Speaker 1 Are you hearing about sea moss, Jamie? I've heard of it.

Speaker 1 You're hearing about people eating it?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yeah.
I don't know. I haven't tried it, but.
I'm a big believer in ribeyes. Yeah, ribeye.
Media ribs. I love it.

Speaker 1 Butterfly with a char. Yeah, I'm not really into your sea moss.
No, I've never tried the shit, but everybody's like, you should do sea moss. Most of that shit is starvation food.
Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, people eat it when they couldn't find fish. If you could find fish, you ate a fucking fish.
Why would you eat that stupid moss?

Speaker 1 I think that's what most vegetables are. Most vegetables are starvation food.
Yeah. I think.
I fuck with salads.

Speaker 1 Actually, I fully salads, but I do them. I'm going to put dressing on it and shit and destroy its

Speaker 1 ranch. A little Caesar vibe.
I just like oil and vinegar. Olive oil and vinegar is all I like on salads.
But I like salads. So I eat salads.

Speaker 1 I'm not religious about it, but I just, I know that when I'm only eating meat and steak and eggs, I feel way better. It's just everything feels like it's in tune.
My brain works better.

Speaker 1 My body feels more relaxed.

Speaker 1 It's a tangible thing. When I eat a lot of bullshit, I feel it.
Dude, I met these

Speaker 1 coming from being a fucking middle of nowhere kid, like not a rich kid, not part of like some socialite type shit.

Speaker 1 I came up to like a certain level of people that was like pretty insane, like Russian. multi-billionaires and what is that like hanging around with those cats? That's fucking bizarre, but I remember

Speaker 1 be weird because they'll get you killed.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 It could happen, yeah. But like I'm hanging out with this one guy who's probably one of the richest men in the world, and we're eating borscht.
He's like, Scotty,

Speaker 1 you should eat soup every day. It's good.
I know what I'm telling you. I'm like, okay.
So I eat a lot of soup. Soup's good.
Soup is

Speaker 1 basically vegetable juice. You're saying like the hot broths and shit like that is just super good for you.
You live longer.

Speaker 1 Bro, I used to live in Los Angeles. I used to go to Jerry's famous deli and Jerry's and get their chicken noodle soup.
They had that chip. That's good.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Their chicken noodle soup.
No chives, though, I tell them. Do they put chives in it normally? Cherries does, yeah.
But I like... Not in a chives, guys.
I like dill. Dill? Dill, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I got, like,

Speaker 1 a Russian nanny and different things like that that work for me. And they put that fresh dill in.
Oh, my God. And that just changes everything.
That's like, that's like Mama Never Made.

Speaker 1 If you think about how cold Russia is, of course, they make a good soup.

Speaker 1 Anywhere that's cold is going to make a good soup. Yeah.
You don't hear like soup from Texas. No.
Right?

Speaker 1 You hear chili.

Speaker 1 You don't hear soup. You don't hear about their soup.
Queso. Queso.
That's kind of soup. I had the butternut squash soup where you put me at last night at the four seasons.

Speaker 1 That's not my kind of soup. It's good, but it's just

Speaker 1 not my favorite. It's basically vegetable juice.
Yeah. That's where you're drinking hot vegetable juice.
But of course it's good for you. Table cream, olives.

Speaker 1 Right. Oh, that kind of stuff where they make the little white swirls on the top like it's a latte.
Yeah. Fancy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Very fancy, Scott.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 so yeah, music, we started like talking about how

Speaker 1 my music career evolved. Pop to that mic.
Huh? So earlier we were talking about where did it start? And I went all the way back. So now

Speaker 1 I'm hanging with this guy, Richard, that my, you know, the videographer I was saying,

Speaker 1 that I met in my dad's office. He took me and started making

Speaker 1 an attempt to

Speaker 1 professionalize myself as a musician, joined the Roots, we got a record deal.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I loved it. I was now like a very

Speaker 1 lucky guy to be involved in something cool, but I was bringing something real major to the table within the group. And I just felt like after a while I wasn't appreciated.

Speaker 1 And that I was just going to be remembered as the guy who played keys for the roots. And I wanted more than that.
I left the group for a multitude of reasons.

Speaker 1 Some I usually don't talk about, but like I,

Speaker 1 you know, boohoo, I felt some reverse racism.

Speaker 1 I know that people have dealt with shit, like fucked up shit, and but I was just like kind of mortified one time on a stage, and I just remember I'm performing with the roots at in New York.

Speaker 1 This event called the Black Lily

Speaker 1 and playing the keyboards, backing everybody up and this and that and somebody was rapping

Speaker 1 They pointed me, the white devil, something else, just like,

Speaker 1 what the fuck is happening here? Like, I, I'm. Were they serious? I'm the most serious.
Were they joking? No, no, it was fucked up shit, bro. It really hurt me because I'm like, I don't see color.

Speaker 1 I don't see any of that shit. I'm the most,

Speaker 1 like, just coolest motherfucker in that aspect. Like, it's a me, racism bothers me.
But it was like,

Speaker 1 you know, my family now were not representing for me and that let that happen and then just combined.

Speaker 1 So someone on the stage had that yes one of the rappers i'm not going to say names but just i had shit was just like how is this happening right now god damn and you know

Speaker 1 i felt like all the credit and for all the like big melodies and stuff that i was creating for the group was just being swept under the rug and like

Speaker 1 i said i gotta leave this group And I'm dating this girl at the time who was like urging me not to. She was saying, you're going to be the Pete Best of the Roots.
You know who Pete Best is?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Beatle. He left the Beatles.
Yeah. So she was like, you're going to be the Pete Best of the Roots.
I was like, that's cool. She actually dumped me.

Speaker 1 And I

Speaker 1 continued on my journey attempting to be a music producer and not join bands. And I met this guy through the whole process of being in the roots.
His name was Derek Jackson.

Speaker 1 And he and I, he embraced me and said, you know, you're so talented like let's give it a go and we would take these trips from philly to new york and just go to every a r every fucking uh label trying people that contacts that this guy derek had in new york he was from new york um

Speaker 1 you know like he would just use them and then the first week we were doing that we got a couple bites and one was my first client was buster rhymes wow who's i'll never forget it buster like believes me he's like all right and I went to the studio.

Speaker 1 We made a record. One shot, one kill, baby.
That's how it is. Like, you get one shot.
You know, it's not like. And we made Bladel, which was on his album, Anarchy.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we also got that same week, maybe three days later,

Speaker 1 Capone and Noriega and CNN, the album. Nori's got his like...
is like, you know, his whole world and podcast now. So he's proud of that guy.
Great guy. But yeah, they believed in me.

Speaker 1 And the day I went in, I'll never forget it.

Speaker 1 Capone, who's partner, was coming home from jail that day. And the theme of the day was, I guess he got him some girls and like, like, on the way to the studio to come work.
And now he's like...

Speaker 1 All day he kept saying, it's nothing. It's nothing to come home from jail with these girls in your limousine and come work with me and Scotty and this and that.
It was just an amazing day.

Speaker 1 We made music. We made like three.
And then I was off to the races, man.

Speaker 1 man I was just making music wow and a whole bunch of cool stuff in between there and then still ain't make no money but I'm now like

Speaker 1 doing shit

Speaker 1 is that you yeah let me shut this off isn't it funny that that fear of like the the peep best type thing that's such a real thing in the beginning you don't have any idea what your future is gonna be like did I like and I would see shit on them yeah like they're appearing here or they're doing this and that and be like fuck but what did I do right i held in there and then

Speaker 1 i'm always a lot of people say this but i'm like a

Speaker 1 very harmonious person i always do good for everybody i never like

Speaker 1 i'm i you can accuse me of being a lot of things but being an asshole i'm not so when i was in uh my first trip to l a

Speaker 1 all right

Speaker 1 I went to LA to perform and I did this this open mic at the martini lounge. It was my first time ever going to California, and it was like, it was a roots event.

Speaker 1 I wasn't in the group anymore, but like, whatever I had to do, I was going to make a few hundred bucks to go play background on this thing.

Speaker 1 It wasn't the roots, it was like an open mic with random people coming, and this and that. So, I did this thing,

Speaker 1 and who do I see come up to me but a chick I knew from Philly?

Speaker 1 And she was like, Stewart,

Speaker 1 what up? She's like,

Speaker 1 You're not going to believe this, but I signed a record deal with Dr. Dre in aftermath.
And I was like, wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 So she's like, I'm going to hook you up with Dre. You're always fucking good to me in Philly.
And you never tried to smash. You let me go in the studio.
And we did cool stuff together.

Speaker 1 And like, it was a platonic thing. Like, she was my homegirl.
And

Speaker 1 sure enough, I go and I meet up with Trey. I'm waiting for him to come out.
I'm in the lobby, like, nervous as hell. I don't have anything to play for him.
I have my fingers. That's about it.
and

Speaker 1 I go into a room

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 he sits me down he's like I heard you good at them keys I start playing for him and this and that he's real quiet and just like listening I'm like

Speaker 1 nothing's coming from this I'm

Speaker 1 I'm gonna go home sad today

Speaker 1 he leaves the room

Speaker 1 I'm still sitting in there. I'm like, I don't know if I should be just leaving or I'm supposed to stay in here.

Speaker 1 And this dude, Larry Chapman, is like one of his like head dudes comes back in dre wants you to stay here for a long time can you get your hotel and here's some money

Speaker 1 it was like really okay dre wants you to stay here for a long time yeah he was just like let me know if dre wants you here man like you can stay because i was i was gonna get on a plane back to philly that night

Speaker 1 and i remember i went back to the hotel i got all my shit and now i'm being switched to like a fancy hotel and i'm like chilling and i got some money.

Speaker 1 I went and rented a fucking five series VMW and I was like, wow, I am in LA for the first time. I have money.
I just met Dre. I'm about to make a fucking album with Dr.
Tre.

Speaker 1 The next day I go, I go to the studio, I meet up with Dre.

Speaker 1 He's telling me all kinds of cool shit, man. Like he accepted me into his world.
Like it was like such a,

Speaker 1 it was surreal, bro. It's a good scene.
It was surreal. Dre watched you.
You got to stay for a long time.

Speaker 1 I got this. I got this.
he's telling me, I got this rapper that is really talented. I believe in him, blah, blah, blah, he's a white boy, and this and that.
And in walks Eminem. Wow.

Speaker 1 And like, he let me finish up some record that he was doing with him. It was like one of M's first releases that just the two of us, you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 And I played a little keys on that over there. The next day, me and Dre went in to work on his project.
And we made big egos, which made it. That's like that one shot, one kill thing.

Speaker 1 Like that first day worked out. It led to me being

Speaker 1 along Dre's, you know, side and in his camp for a very long time. But there's just a handful of dudes like you out there in the world that I call like a musical magician.

Speaker 1 You know, there's people that people call upon. You know, like, you got to get Storch.
I'm a producer, producer. Right, but what is that?

Speaker 1 Like, what separates you from other musicians that makes you this savant?

Speaker 1 Do you think about it or would that take you to the business? Bro, I can barely tie my shoelaces.

Speaker 1 But you know, you gotta bang out some gas.

Speaker 1 Right. I was telling you about that Russian oligarch.
Okay, he looked at me one time and he says, Scotty,

Speaker 1 you are not playing this keyboard. You are fucking the piano.
Like, I don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 It's wrong. I'm not an educated guy, but like I have rhythm

Speaker 1 on some different shit, like Bob James, like your boys, the black, the black tees.

Speaker 1 Love those kids.

Speaker 1 Look, not to jump around too much, but working with them was the first time I feel like I did anything good.

Speaker 1 I can't explain it. And why? I have all these hits like the candy shop, do this, that, Beyonce, every single day.
I'd be like, the first time I really got into it on some real,

Speaker 1 touch the culture real shit. Not what

Speaker 1 people like trap music and dumb shit like that. Yeah.
This is like the real as it gets. And I got to use these vintage keyboards.

Speaker 1 I'm playing shit with a wah-wah pedal on a keyboard and like going crazy. And like, if you look at my Instagram sometime, you'll see some of the shit that I'm doing.
Like their studio. I do.

Speaker 1 I watch it all the time. Their studio is insane, man.

Speaker 1 And those toys, like, I was really tapping in. Really? Yeah, yeah.
It was so much fun. But.

Speaker 1 I just love those two guys. They're just...

Speaker 1 And they're so fucking talented, man. We saw them out here at Stubbs.
Yeah. Fuck, it was so fun, man.
Yeah, man. And something about Nashville is a great place to make music, man.

Speaker 1 Well, think about how much great music has come out of there, and then the memory of that shit has burned into the city.

Speaker 1 I believe in that. I believe that places have memory.

Speaker 1 You know, I really do. Yeah, you feel it.

Speaker 1 I think there's an element. I mean, it's not everything about a place, but I think places have memory.
You know?

Speaker 1 I I think that a place like Nashville, I mean, and also it's small enough because it's kind of a tight community. Everybody kind of knows everybody.
There's so many musicians there. Kid Rock's there.

Speaker 1 Black Keys are there. Yeah, Kid Rock.
He told me he was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I read into it at the UFC.

Speaker 1 Kid Rock's my favorite fucking thing of all time is going to his giant track of land in Nashville and seeing his fucking White House.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like with the rotating dining room and the fucking crazy sunset. He's out of his mind.
He did well, man. Yeah.
He He was one of, I know, I met him. I met him.

Speaker 1 He used to come up to the studio when we were making the Chronic album, which right, and I think it was like,

Speaker 1 it was like visiting, I think, with

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Your money, your move. Eminem, and I don't know if he's doing some other stuff, but he was there quite a bit.

Speaker 1 Cool guy, man. Yeah, he's always at the UFC with Trump.
It's hilarious because Trump comes into American Badass.

Speaker 1 The crowd goes nuts when they know he's there, and then kid rocks behind him. It's like the Republican Avengers.
Dude, I performed at Mar-a-Lago not long ago. No way.
Yeah, I jammed out.

Speaker 1 I did a Blacks for Trump thing, and

Speaker 1 it was cool, man. Jeff Dye was telling me he's done stand-up at Mar-a-Lago.
How crazy is that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a fucking, he's a genius.

Speaker 1 I really am a book.

Speaker 1 He got a sick, sick operation over there. That Mar-a-Lago is insane, bro.
I need to check it out.

Speaker 1 We thought about doing a, we do this podcast called Protect Our Parks with Shane Gillis, Ari Shafir, and Mark Norman. It's crazy.
We get hammered and drink beer out of like this giant freedom bong.

Speaker 1 It's like an eagle's asshole you're drinking the beer out of.

Speaker 1 And we talked about doing one from Mar-a-Lago. We might do that still.
That's cool. I'm supposed to go there.
I think I'm going to go there first

Speaker 1 on the 13th. They're doing some kind of event, like a Roaring 20s vibe dinner and then like a whole weekend of Roaring 20s.

Speaker 1 Like you wear the outfits? I'm not going to, but like Profield wear one of them outfits. They're a Zoots.

Speaker 1 What did they wear? What's like a Roaring 20s outfit? Zoot suit. I would imagine that's like...
Double-breasted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like the peaky blinders. What those dudes wear.

Speaker 1 What do they wear in the 20s? The Shelby's Zoot suits, man.

Speaker 1 What do they wear?

Speaker 1 Roaring 20s men.

Speaker 1 There you go. Oh, yeah.
Oh, that looks slick. Those hats.
Look at that. They all wore hats.
Isn't that crazy? Liciano shit going on. Isn't that crazy that, like,

Speaker 1 nice hats just went away? We were talking about that the other day.

Speaker 1 We were watching an old school fight with Jack Johnson, and every man on the street, like, waiting in line for the fight, all the people in the audience for the fight, all of them had fancy hats on.

Speaker 1 Men used to just wear fancy hats. Something happened.
Fancy hats just fell apart.

Speaker 1 Like, if you were in the fancy hat business in 1920, be like, bro, we got it forever.

Speaker 1 Fancy hats ain't going away. But fancy hats completely fucking went.

Speaker 1 A friend of mine was wearing a hat. He's like, you know, this hat's like four crand.
I'm like, it's like some fancy company.

Speaker 1 I'm sure there's companies, but it's not like they everybody likes to do it. Like baseball hats, everybody buys baseball hats, you know?

Speaker 1 But fancy hats they just went away if you would ask those fancy hat people do you think one day the president will be wearing a baseball hat or a fancy hat they'd be like a fancy hat he's the fucking president nope make america great again

Speaker 1 baseball hat with a suit on that's crazy you know what fancy hats just fell out of style yeah i think um you can't bring it back either it's become a much more casual world i believe and it's like i mean sometimes i always bitch like ah people knew how to dress when we used to go out i would put on a sport coat and you know, but like, at the end of the day, like,

Speaker 1 I get it shit. Yeah, that's what it is.
It's all bullshit. It's nice to dress up sometimes.
Sometimes it's a pain in the ass sometimes. Yeah.
It's a pain in the ass.

Speaker 1 Lately, I've just been changing my whole fashion ways. Like, a friend of mine said something.

Speaker 1 He's like,

Speaker 1 even though I have nice things, he's like, you don't need a Ferrari.

Speaker 1 Be the Ferrari. When you walk in a room,

Speaker 1 you're on South Beach and all these fucking guys that barely have a pop their piss in are getting out of the lambo and the fucking uh valet and the iced out and shit like i'm the king of that ship i was filthy rich and did all that shit and i might as well have just landed a fucking spaceship on top of the club like i was doing everything but lately i just it turns me off i look at myself and i look like a i feel like a poser like i feel like the richest guy in the room is wearing a fucking a fucking

Speaker 1 a bare bones, no diamonds type shit.

Speaker 1 Well, look at Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 Dude wears Occupy Mars t-shirts. Doesn't even have a watch.
Yep. You know, so that's just hanging.
That's what I'm at. You don't.

Speaker 1 I think what happens is in the beginning, you want everybody to know you're doing well, so you have all your stuff on. You dress real nice.
You know, you're like, wow, Scott's looks good.

Speaker 1 He looks sharp. But then when you're undeniable, you reach a point in your life where you're just like, what am I, who am I doing this for? This is stupid.

Speaker 1 If you're like me and you have a point in your life where you had $100 million

Speaker 1 and you were trying to impress everybody and you fucking didn't have any respect for buddy. Like my financial manager walked away from me back in the day.
He said, you're unmanageable. Why?

Speaker 1 Were you going crazy?

Speaker 1 I was spending so much money. But look, you're still here.
You had fun. I had fun.
Bitch, had a good time. Bitch, you had a good time.
But when you lose everything,

Speaker 1 you want to like fake it and be like, oh, no, I still got it. And like, I'm the guy with the most obnoxious set of diamonds.
It broke his shit. Because I just wanted to look the art.

Speaker 1 My ego wouldn't let me let go of that shit. That's a negative feedback loop.

Speaker 1 Because that doesn't feed into art either. It's the opposite.
It doesn't. It's the opposite of art.
All of that. I had to really take it back to nothing.
I don't care about labels and shit.

Speaker 1 I like nice things. Look,

Speaker 1 I don't

Speaker 1 have to do the pull-up on the club, but look, there's nothing wrong with a fucking 9-11. It's just a great car.
Yeah, there's amazing engineers. Anything, yeah.
I do it for me now.

Speaker 1 Like, whatever I do. And

Speaker 1 I'm just like, I'm really getting into my music. I'm getting into a lot of things.
I appreciate both things. I appreciate people who dress real nice, and I appreciate people who don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 I think there's a place for everybody. There's a happy medium.
Yeah. And then the stuff, stuff is not life.
Life is not your stuff. No.
But some stuff is fucking cool. Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Like Cat Williams, when he was here, he wasn't even living here or staying here. And somehow or another, he got an electric Rolls-Royce.

Speaker 1 So he's here. I mean, he's here for a day to do a show.
Wasn't he doing a show somewhere else or something? Like an arena somewhere?

Speaker 1 But one of the things he said, he said, when you're sitting in this car, you know where you spent your money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it's like,

Speaker 1 you go, oh, I know why this is $600,000. Look how fucking amazing this thing is.
No, yeah. Lights on the ceiling.
I like a lot of nice things. I just like them for a different reason.
Right.

Speaker 1 You don't like them for showing off. You like them because you like them because they're awesome.
Yeah. There's nothing wrong with luxury.
Yes. There's nothing wrong with luxury.
You're poor card.

Speaker 1 The problem is you trying to show everybody your luxury instead of just enjoying it. Like, look, in my opinion.
Or prioritizing it before your children or before anything.

Speaker 1 Before anything. Before anything.
Before food.

Speaker 1 It shouldn't come before anything. It should be just a fun thing.
And when you get to a level of success that you're at, if you don't figure that out, that's when it's the saddest.

Speaker 1 When someone makes a ton of money and doesn't go, oh, it's not about the things. It's about the relationships that I have.
It's about my friends. It's about my loved ones, my family.

Speaker 1 It's about the people that I work with. It's about everybody having a good time.

Speaker 1 It's about, let's all get together and break bread and eat and hug each other and tell each other we love each other and do great work and have a good time and just enjoy this life experience.

Speaker 1 That's the thing. That's the thing.
The car is just like, look, that's cool. That's icing.
Yeah, if you pull up in a cool car, I'm like, check it out.

Speaker 1 Like, that is all some people have to offer in their life. And they think that that is great.
Well, you know, the problem is that's seemingly the most unattainable thing.

Speaker 1 When you're broke and you see some guy who pulls up in a brand new 9-11, you're like, what the fuck? This is yours?

Speaker 1 It's mind-blowing. I had Bugattis and all kinds of shit.
I mean, everything.

Speaker 1 I had everything. I won for the best car collection on fucking MTV Cribs.
I had like 26 cars, bro. If you name it, I had like $10 million cars.
Wow. Like crazy shit.
I'm an idiot. But at any rate.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but those are fun too, if you can afford it. No, yeah, but I lived a billionaire's life as a millionaire.
I had $100 million. I thought I said 100 billion in my account.

Speaker 1 I thought there was an extra zero. But recently, I met a guy.

Speaker 1 You just met Kevin. Kevin is a fucking, like,

Speaker 1 just a great person. I had met him years and years ago.
He was the head of security for 50 Cent. And he brought 50 to my house to do the candy shop, okay?

Speaker 1 And that's when I met him, but I lost touch with him for so many years.

Speaker 1 And just, you know, not so long ago, just remet him at the studio this guy BB at Circle House said yo I got you you got this guy wants to you've met him before but he wants to meet you he's now

Speaker 1 the owner of

Speaker 1 the platinum security group which is like one of the largest corporate security companies in the nation like this guy owns so much real estate he owns half of Boca Rattan he's like a major freaking guy and he like we started he wanted to you know initially hire me to do some music for some artists that he had a record label.

Speaker 1 And we ended up partnering on that record label and partnering on these different type things that were, you know, different projects and shit that we're doing. And

Speaker 1 he is like, yo,

Speaker 1 first of all, you need to get the fuck out of Miami.

Speaker 1 And I want you to move an hour north to Boca so you can focus and really make the music and stop worrying about, because Miami, like, starts slipping into my old ways and girls are every day.

Speaker 1 It's show up and it's a cesspool, bro. And it's so much fun.
And it's so fucked up. And there's so much as, and there's so much drugs, and there's so much everything.
And it's like, fuck that.

Speaker 1 You should have to have a passport to go to Miami.

Speaker 1 That is not America. That's a new thing.
That's some new thing. Miami's wild.
It's good to go there. Yeah.
Yeah. You need to fucking be there, but like...
The energy in that place.

Speaker 1 An hour down the road is beautiful waterfront living. Right.
Normalcy. And just far enough to where the

Speaker 1 garbage is not going to

Speaker 1 hit you every day. You can get there if you want.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, you're outside of the world. That's right.
He's like from the outside. Move up here.
And since I did that, and I followed this lead, so many great things are happening. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Even just like unlocking, you know how you block your blessings?

Speaker 1 Like I was blocking my blessings and now they're starting to come. I'm here with you talking and telling my story and like things like that are happening.
Great things. I have

Speaker 1 an artist that

Speaker 1 I'm working on. I have my album.
I decided to, like, you know, how Khaled makes an album. He's got all these different people.
And, like, I'm like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'm going to, like, I've made my whole life of us

Speaker 1 making hit records for labels and for their artists. Why not develop artists and do my own album and use some of those artists for my projects? And,

Speaker 1 yeah, I'm putting out a slew of singles.

Speaker 1 This girl, Abby Stare,

Speaker 1 that Kevin introduced me to, is like so amazing. I think there might be a picture somewhere of that.

Speaker 1 I was told, like, because I'm using her for my single, for my first single, like, even though, you know, we're going to be developing her album.

Speaker 1 But I'm doing my single, featuring her, and then a whole bunch of other ones that I'm going to be putting out. I have one with Young Blue, and

Speaker 1 I have tons of singles.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we have this song. And yeah, I'm excited, man.
Like, I'm doing the things I always wanted to do.

Speaker 1 I'm taking like full-on

Speaker 1 initiative now. And you think moving an hour outside Miami was a big part of that? I think, yeah, in order to just balance.
Yeah, balance myself. You need balance, man.

Speaker 1 You need to be able to go hard, but you need to be able to recover, relax, and focus. You need privacy.
You need solitude so you can think. Everybody needs that.
You need balance in your life.

Speaker 1 If you don't, you just go, you lean in one direction.

Speaker 1 It's like your body. You only work out your biceps.
Your fucking, your hips are going to go. Something's going to go wrong.
You're going to fuck your body up with imbalance.

Speaker 1 You're going to fuck your life up with imbalance. Everything needs some sort of a balance, and everybody's balance is different.

Speaker 1 You know, for a guy like you who goes hard, you probably should get the fuck out of Miami. You should probably be living in Boca

Speaker 1 with all the quiet people. Yep.
And I'm loving it. If I need to go to Miami, I'm

Speaker 1 going to go to Miami. One hour.
Fuck it. How hard is that? I love Florida.
This is a fucking crazy ass place. It is.
Crazy place filled with reptiles. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 And they literally were walking around on your dock. There's so many iguanas like.
Giant iguanas falling out of trees when it gets cold out. Yeah, it's funny as shit.

Speaker 1 It's just such a fucked up place. But it's so fun.
There's so many good things. And during the pandemic, I think people started to really appreciate Florida.
Like, so many people moved down there.

Speaker 1 They're like, hey, you can just live here. You don't have to just be under the tyrannical control of the government.
Look, the Northeast was a great place

Speaker 1 as a young guy to build strength and the changing of the seasons and scraping the ice off your fucking windshield and just learning about being a man, wearing Timberland boots because you're fucking freezing cold.

Speaker 1 Right. And

Speaker 1 I think every young person should have to experience that. 100%.
Not just like sunshine.

Speaker 1 Bro, I grew up in Boston. Yeah.
And,

Speaker 1 you know, it's cold as fuck in the winter. When I was a kid, we made money by shoveling snow.

Speaker 1 And that, you know, that's back-breaking fucking work, shoveling long, steep driveways and shit for a hundred bucks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, but if you could do that and do that all the time, like, you build resolve. You're out there freezing.
Your hands are numb. You know, we'd play outside in the snow.

Speaker 1 Your fucking hands would go now. You come in.
You can't feel your feet.

Speaker 1 Makes you stronger. It makes you stronger.
Scraping the ice off your windshield before you go to work.

Speaker 1 Yep. Salting the fucking

Speaker 1 walk. I feel bad for people that don't grow up in those environments because I really think it gives you a little extra edge.
And those changing of seasons is amazing.

Speaker 1 It's different feelings, different moods.

Speaker 1 All my favorite comedians for the most. Well, that's not true.
I was going to say that, but then Kinnison, he was from Texas. Sam.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that was different. That dude was, that's a different thing.
I always think about back to school. I think about Sam Kinnison.
I don't know why. My mind just goes right there.
Was he right?

Speaker 1 Was he right?

Speaker 1 I was there.

Speaker 1 That dude is awesome. Yeah, he was awesome.
I have an an appreciation for film. I have an appreciation for comedians.

Speaker 1 Like, I like, I really like, I grew up like, dude, I was buying like Richard Pryor albums as a kid and Eddie Murphy albums. And, you know, I spent a lot of time.
I became good friends with Mike Epps.

Speaker 1 A lot of comedians. Comedians are tortured souls, you guys.

Speaker 1 I think a lot of that whole comedy-tragedy thing is very serious. There's something to do.
For many, for many. Yeah, there's something to that.
But it's,

Speaker 1 you just got to figure out how to balance it. Like we were talking about before.
For me, I balance it out with exercise. Exercise and saunas and cold plunges and yoga and shit like that.

Speaker 1 That's how I balance it out. That's how I keep my mind straight.
But if I didn't, I would be spiraling just like all of them. I think

Speaker 1 you need something in your life that's more difficult than your life.

Speaker 1 Something that you do that you choose to do that's more difficult than regular life because then it makes regular life way more manageable.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 it's kind of cool. I'm 50 and I'm like inspired like what I was in my early 20s and just like doing the music.

Speaker 1 And it's like, sometimes I get reminded of like the fact, you know, like when you're trying to like keep up, like there's a session like, and you're going to have to go meet little baby at three in the morning.

Speaker 1 It's like, and you're 50.

Speaker 1 Okay, fuck it. I just do it.
I just have to compensate for it. I could have just went for days back in the day

Speaker 1 without drugs. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 saying right like now it's like all right i'm gonna sleep real late because i'm gonna have to go at three o'clock in the morning so is that like a standard thing like what like when rappers come and they want to work with you do they generally want to work late at night rappers yeah yes they all want to work late at night and my biggest problem is

Speaker 1 i know i can't always tell them that like sometimes you should just send them cds and shit but i know when you get in a room and you make some shit right there on the spot for somebody and you feel in their energy that's when the best records happen yes these dudes like a lot of dudes are not like with it but there's some are that's the extra magic right yeah I think the best artists want that the ones that aren't really artists they just want some bullshit to rap on some more bullshit but it's there's something you're exchanging something as human beings right you're you're with that person you're experiencing them they're experiencing you the music the song everything together the lyrics there's that's a human experience.

Speaker 1 That's why I refuse to do Zoom podcasts. Like some people in other countries,

Speaker 1 they wanted to be on a screen and just sit in the living room.

Speaker 1 You got to fly here, bro. You got to be in the room.
I'll give you a perfect example.

Speaker 1 I got a call a week ago, FaceTime,

Speaker 1 and it was J. Cole, I see him on my phone.
And like, I was chilling. Like, I was like, oh, shit, it's J.
Cole. And my neighbor thinks I'm selling dope.
He says, he says he says yo storch

Speaker 1 I figured out a way and I can harness that storch thing

Speaker 1 you're in Florida I'm flying there so I'm going home from this tomorrow he's gonna be there the next day we're gonna be working at a hit factory but he gets it like we were just listening to neighbors in the green room last night we're all going motherfucker I am

Speaker 1 so I'm excited I'm excited when somebody wants to get in the room and they have an idea of what they feel like out of the Scott Storch bag of tricks. Like they want to harness or encompass.

Speaker 1 Well, you're also a guy that you find out you're working with Scott Storch that day, everybody gets fired up.

Speaker 1 So there's like a feat because you've had so much success that there's this like excitement about you and you're in the room and that creates like additional inspiration.

Speaker 1 I give my all to all clients.

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 if somebody's going to be in a room when I'm not there and they're like, this is the one Scott Storch did, that shit had better, if I like the artist or I don't, like, whatever the hell it is, they have to be like, yo, that beat is fucking flames.

Speaker 1 Like, so I give my all the shit.

Speaker 1 And for some reason, man, like I said, like, I just, this is one of the few things I can just do over and over again. I do it good.
I give results. Nothing always sounds the same.

Speaker 1 If somehow I manage to pull it off, it's like, I just remember Dr. Dre telling me, yo,

Speaker 1 because his work ethic is crazy. He says, you don't have to be on every day,

Speaker 1 just most days.

Speaker 1 And it stuck with me, and I was like, yeah, man, like, you know, you got to be known for being the guy to hit home runs almost every time. Not every time, but almost every time.

Speaker 1 But when you're dealing with something that involves creativity, it can't be every day. It's not possible.
You're asking too much of the muse. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that's also the problem with being a workaholic. You're going hard all the time.

Speaker 1 You're constantly working and you're going to have your hits and you're going to have your misses and that's just a part of the process.

Speaker 1 I go hard with everything that I do, whether it be a bad thing or a good thing. Yeah.
Like most people do.

Speaker 1 I got like, you know, the same energy I give to that, to the music and shit, I was giving to like the wrong things for a while. A good friend of mine, we were talking about a buddy of ours that died.

Speaker 1 He died from pills and he was super clean. He was a professional pool player, like a really like world-class pool player.

Speaker 1 Super clean, never did anything, never never drank, never smoked, got in a car accident, fucked his back up, started getting on pills.

Speaker 1 And pain pills, to him, he chased pain pills the way he chased being the best in the world at pool. The same thing that got him to be a wizard at playing pool, that same obsession,

Speaker 1 that same obsession got wrapped up in the pills, and he died. He died young.

Speaker 1 And we were talking about him like that is what it is. That's where obsession and addiction cross paths.
One can serve you, one can ruin you. And they're the same energy.

Speaker 1 It's just how you channel the fire. You could channel the fire to wood and cook your food, or you can channel it to your house and now you're fucked.
Like, where do you put the fire?

Speaker 1 How do you direct it? And if you direct it the right way, you can have an amazing life and do all kinds of cool shit and have a great time and meet cool people and have a fun life.

Speaker 1 Or you can do it the wrong way and just be on skid row. Yeah.
Covered in scabs. It's hard to balance sometimes things that take over your soul, like pills and shit like that.

Speaker 1 Later, I want to talk to you about I got into like the business of rehab, not for money. I got into the business of rehab to help people, but but that's later.
Um

Speaker 1 honestly, like I got

Speaker 1 my whole life was just all music, music, music. I loved music.
I loved going in my fucking car and just listening to the things I love, like music. I love music of the 70s.
And I love Marvin Gaye.

Speaker 1 I like all his fucking

Speaker 1 incredible music, Earth, Wind and Fires and this, that.

Speaker 1 That's where it all comes from. So I base my music on the past 50 years of music, 100 years of music.
And

Speaker 1 I was doing good. I smoked pounds of weed, made my music, lived a very healthy life, and became very rich.
And I was in a bubble for so long

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 one day I'm living in a house that

Speaker 1 Ivanka Trump recently just bought. It was my house on Indian Creek Island, okay? Which I owned outright.
I bought the fucking house for cash from the widow of the founder of Southern Wine and Spirits.

Speaker 1 And I bought this house, fucking massive topiary gardens and incredible thing. I was living a healthy life.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I wasn't in my mind like cool. But I was like happy.
I was cool. That was as cool as it gets because I was balanced and healthy and doing what I love to do.

Speaker 1 But I felt like I was yearning for something bad, or I don't know what I was yearning for. But this girl ended up showing up at my doorstep,

Speaker 1 a very famous girl.

Speaker 1 And look, I'm not playing the gate, the blame game or anything, but it's just a course of events happened. Paris Hilton shows up at my door initially to work on music.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we ended up connecting, and

Speaker 1 I learned this whole new way of life, like with paparazzi's and being like next to her and then,

Speaker 1 excuse me, inevitably hooking up with her. And we're now an item and shit.
And we're, you know,

Speaker 1 kind of like, we're having tons of fun. We're good friends, but I think we're both using each other in a certain way.
Like, where I'm like.

Speaker 1 like so excited to be next to this girl who's like the coolest most famous girl in the world she's like my girl and like she's next to she her passion was at that time music and she was like next to me who i'm the number one music producer in the world at the time and um

Speaker 1 it went on and then inevitably the nightlife led to fucking

Speaker 1 cocaine and

Speaker 1 she don't lie she don't lie

Speaker 1 first year year and a half going here on planes and san trope and st bards and the flyest shit you could do, and flyest the best fucking Coke and all that shit, just having a blast.

Speaker 1 And then it just goes bad. And then it's just like that you have a relationship.
You've seen the movie Blow, and you've seen how hot Penelope Cruz

Speaker 1 and Dew were like in the beginning, they were like into each other. It just comes

Speaker 1 all like there's no happy ending. Your foundation gets rotted out under your yeah, and like

Speaker 1 my A-list

Speaker 1 life

Speaker 1 was like, you know, I was born there, and like I was

Speaker 1 now like in that situation, and then I ended up with Kim Kardashian and all these different things, and like she wasn't even famous at that point, but like, you know, she's cool, man.

Speaker 1 She's always been a great person, and like, for stuff. I gained a lot of respect for her when she started working for criminal and prison reform.
Yeah, that's just shows, like, she's done.

Speaker 1 That sits on the heart, too. Advocacy for people that are wrongfully accused.
Yeah, man. She's done a lot of good things.
That lady's gotten a lot of people people out of jail. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look, as long as I've known Kim, she's never been anything but just a super sweet person.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. I met her before the fame.
Like, we dated before the fame. And, you know, I just,

Speaker 1 I was a hot mess. Like, I was the fucked up one when we were together.
Like, I just was not focused. I was just thinking about strippers and drugs and this and that.

Speaker 1 And was just, I was still on a high level, but I was living a fucked up life. I had

Speaker 1 a session. Now I moved to Palm Island from Indian Creek because

Speaker 1 everything I was doing, I was trying to impress Paris. And like, I knew that everybody wanted to be on Star Island and Palm Island and like close to the party.
South Beach was

Speaker 1 South Beach, South Beach Beach.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that where I was living already was the big daddy. Like those houses, you have to be a, you know, everybody's there, like Bezos, everybody's there now.
Like where I was,

Speaker 1 I moved to this house on Palm Island. I go from a 90-foot yacht to a much bigger, I take these leaps just trying to impress her and just blow her mind, even though she didn't need that.
But

Speaker 1 I was

Speaker 1 doing it, yeah. It was all some weird mental thing.
Like, I felt like a lot of people get caught in that spiral when they start making money.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to be famous, I wanted to be the most famous. I wanted to be the biggest boss, not just a boss.
I had to be that guy. Boy, and when I lost everything, it was like

Speaker 1 it's bad news. And look, I had Janet Jackson at my house to do a session.
Pre- or post-nipple at the Super Bowl. I don't even remember.

Speaker 1 I don't remember the nipples, but I remember this sweet, cool lady. When I met Janet,

Speaker 1 I was told to not even really talk to her, like more like, like talk to like somebody. And like, you know, it was like, it was like a forever.
Like, yeah, it was like.

Speaker 1 pass your message and tell this person that they're gonna like relay it like even in the same room to the point where within a few hours like you're collaborating with music just for the first few minutes, this happened, and then

Speaker 1 we became like homies. Like, it was like immediately, I was like, fuck that.
Well, sometimes it's the handlers that fuck things. The handlers.

Speaker 1 I've seen people that they give themselves extra importance by saying, if you want to talk to her, you have to talk to me for some of them. Yeah, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like creating a drool for themselves. And creating a little bit of insecurity on your part, too.
Like,

Speaker 1 don't address Miss Jackson, Chris. Right.
Address me? Yeah. I'll address Mrs.
Jackson. That's exactly.
And probably she might not even know about you.

Speaker 1 Dude, we were, by the end of the day, I was like, you know, I was smoking my, I was smoking my weed.

Speaker 1 She was like, I was telling her about the different kinds I had and these New York plastic jars and this and that. And like, just cool as hell.

Speaker 1 But flash forward, so now she's coming to Palm Island to work.

Speaker 1 I left her at my house for like seven or eight hours because I wanted to go to the gold rush and go get some blow and hang out with strippers. It was just like,

Speaker 1 are you fucking serious? Like, you're really going to do that? Like, you don't see it at the time because it's out of your fucking mind. You're out of your fucking mind.
Out of my mind.

Speaker 1 Out of my tits. It's just

Speaker 1 too old for things like that. When you have so much money and you have power and fame, it's like you have too much possibility.
Yeah. There's too many things that can entice you.

Speaker 1 And if you're doing blow and going to strip clubs all the time, it's just like, more titties in my face, please. Like, let's keep doing it.
Let's keep partying. Let's stay up.
It's selfish.

Speaker 1 And you're not thinking about it because

Speaker 1 what are you saying, good fellas? Ah, your brain's going to mush.

Speaker 1 It's imbalance.

Speaker 1 it's true it's imbalance it's like what we're talking about so you need a balance the a-list parties turn to b list parties the b list turns to c list the c list turns to fucking street urchins you know what i mean i remember i've had some fucking funny moments though like i remember having a party it was like a super bowl party i had like

Speaker 1 seven or eight hundred people at my house and like everybody's like fizzling out it's now like nine in the morning ten in the morning i think snoop was there mike epps was there different people were hanging out lingering chilling like family people now now it's like friends and shit and like there's a knock on my door at like 10 a.m

Speaker 1 and it's pamela anderson

Speaker 1 and that shit was the funniest shit in my house living with me at that time was one of my favorite people

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Speaker 1 He was upstairs, like sleeping or whatever, my good friend DMX, God rest his soul, and um pamela was showing up and I was like yo X yo X check this out I was all geeked out and like so I think it's so funny that I got Pamela coming to my house at 10 in the morning and he comes over the the um the railing of my house and he's like looks over he's like Baywatch and then he just walked back away walked back in the fucking thing okay

Speaker 1 X was like X was living with me man and like it was like the blind leading the blind I'm a coke addict and he's a crack addict. And I'm like trying to help him.

Speaker 1 I'm like, man, you really need to get clean, man. Like, like, what the fuck is really?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm like, yo, you need to go to rehab. I'm like,

Speaker 1 so I get him, I convince him, like, to avoid, like, a jail sentencing for something, a charge that he had, whatever. He went to rehab and like was getting his shit together.

Speaker 1 The place that I had gone that didn't really work for me, but I had him there. I I really did care about him.
I wanted him off that shit, like whatever.

Speaker 1 That was like a worse evil or a faster suicide than I was even on. And

Speaker 1 he ran out of the place. I got a call from him.
The place was directly across the street from the Hard Rock in Hollywood, Florida. And he calls me.
He's like, yo, what's up?

Speaker 1 I'm like, well, how are you calling me? You don't have phone privileges like that.

Speaker 1 He's like, I'm across the street from the rehab at the Hard Rock with one of the nurses.

Speaker 1 And like, I'm like, oh, are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 1 I was like, yo, X,

Speaker 1 cover yourself up. Come back to my house.
I'm going to talk to these people, let you back in. And they wouldn't let him back in.
It was a real tough motherfucker to own this place.

Speaker 1 And he ended up, because it was court ordered, he had to go away. I'm at the Montreon one morning a couple of days later, and my security is like, yo, Doug, there's 50 federal agents here.

Speaker 1 We like crazy shit, bro. It was like, I couldn't believe it.
I felt horrible.

Speaker 1 And then you flash forward to not so long ago,

Speaker 1 I was heavily involved in a rehab center in

Speaker 1 California in Studio City where we used cannabis for healing.

Speaker 1 And it came to my attention that he was on his last legs.

Speaker 1 X was in bad shape. So

Speaker 1 I was able to make a meeting happen. My partner, Steve LaBelle, I don't know if you know who Steve LaBelle is,

Speaker 1 managed Bone Thugs and Harmony and all these people, like real legend.

Speaker 1 We were partners on this place, and

Speaker 1 we had X come in. He had emphysema, he was one rock away from death, like you know, that kind of thing.
So we convinced him, we put him on a private plane to Washington to do a detox. He went.

Speaker 1 He went through the whole detox, and his plan was

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 leave the detox and come to our facility inpatient and do rehab. He never made it back on the plane to head back, and we never saw him again.

Speaker 1 And like, that was me trying to save a man's life that I really loved, man. He was like such a special guy, but like.

Speaker 1 Such a special performer. Man, there's this.
One of the greatest to ever do it. Oh, without a doubt.
Without a doubt. The power that that guy had in his voice.
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 But wild people make wild shit. And

Speaker 1 I'm one of them. Sometimes

Speaker 1 you can't control it. You can't calculate or yeah, I mean, going back to Kennison, I mean, I just did him, man.
I mean, he died in a car accident, but he was falling apart because it was all cocaine.

Speaker 1 Cocaine and drinking. And the wildest of the wilds all get caught up in that life because

Speaker 1 you escape yourself. It's an escape.
I was just about to say. Yeah, it's an escape.
The difference between enjoying yourself and an escape is,

Speaker 1 bro, like the come down, like after, like, because after a while, while, like that, like getting fucked up and going to sleep doesn't work.

Speaker 1 It's like, it's like now you want to go for two days or three days. The way you feel at the end of that run

Speaker 1 is no good, bro. It's not good.
It's just no good. Well, you're closing in on death.
Yeah. That's the reality.
You do two days. You're just down.

Speaker 1 People don't like to think that, but if you're up for two days, you're about four days away from death.

Speaker 1 You keep that up for four days, you're going to die. You'll stroke out.
You'll have a heart attack. Something will go wrong.
You'll pop. Something will go off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 you'll get emphyzen or you'll get pneumonia. You'll get something horrible because your immune system's destroyed.
Yeah. But it's like wild people make wild shit.
And do you get a DMX without drugs?

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's like you call it sex drugs or rock and roll, rock star shit, whatever you want to call it.
No, if you get those people, I don't know if you get Hendrix without acid.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you get it. I don't know if you get it.
I don't know if you get it without heroin. I don't know.
Maybe I'm so lucky because now I finally realize and I'm like

Speaker 1 understand

Speaker 1 like all the things you're saying about you can just die and like i get it now and i'm like i'm not doing that and like i lived it though and i got the experience but the music is still fertile and like i'm still doing my thing because a lot of those memories and oh bro you made it through yeah you made it through you you made it through you're alive you're healthy you're lucky you're blessed lucky as hell lucky as shit and It's just like, that's the dance, man.

Speaker 1 The dance is how much wild do you let in your life? And if you don't let any in

Speaker 1 you might be sterile you might be boring as fuck your your art might i made it out alive

Speaker 1 all my favorite artists are a little off the rails and always have been from my favorite writers to my favorite musicians i mean so many of my favorite musicians died young

Speaker 1 hendrix probably one of my all-time favorites but like that's a great example you know jim morrison janice joplin all these people died young man kurt cobain died young because they went too fucking hard, too wild, too wild out of the gate.

Speaker 1 Amy Winehouse, too wild. I'm dealing with stuff that, like,

Speaker 1 it's not like you could just be an organized drug addict.

Speaker 1 Some people just have less of an addictive personality, but like, if you,

Speaker 1 the shit just takes over. Yeah.
It takes over. And again, if you're living that, there you go.

Speaker 1 If you're living that wild life, it's like there's no one telling you to stop. There's no one telling you to slow down.
You have all the money in the world. Like, what?

Speaker 1 Who the fuck are you? Why are are you telling me to slow down? Yeah, we fuck out of here. I just did the Star Spangled Banner with my teeth.
Get the fuck off the stage.

Speaker 1 You ever see him do that? Ever see Hendrix do the Star Spangled Banner with his teeth? Yeah, bro. Crazy.
That motherfucker.

Speaker 1 I'm told I'm one of the only guys who could play like music and smoke weed at the same time.

Speaker 1 I don't know how they play music and sing at the same time.

Speaker 1 I met this guy, Post Malone, part of his business team, like him and Dre London, this guy, Austin Rosen.

Speaker 1 Austin Rosen's a fucking awesome dude. Like, he owns

Speaker 1 Electric Field Entertainment. Post, all these guys, Lou Bell, they're all part of like some of the most

Speaker 1 talented and like

Speaker 1 just one of the coolest things going on in music are these guys. So

Speaker 1 I wanted to make a life story, like biopic.

Speaker 1 I was going to do something. I had one idea I was going to do.
And then he was like, Austin says, dude, I want you to go meet this guy. His name's Charles Roven.

Speaker 1 He owns Atlas Entertainment. I don't know if you're familiar with Atlas, but they made like

Speaker 1 one of the biggest movie producers in the history of movies. He did like Suicide Squad, that whole series, the Dark Knight,

Speaker 1 Oppenheimer, like some of the craziest movies. The list just goes on.
I'm like, oh, shit, this guy makes blockbusters. He was going to make my movie.

Speaker 1 He's like, listen, just go meet him, see what happens. I meet the guy, and I go in his office.
I'm like so nervous. He says to me,

Speaker 1 I don't like you very much,

Speaker 1 especially from what I read. But if I like you by the end of this meeting, I think we'll make a movie.
What does that mean? I don't like you very much, especially from what I read.

Speaker 1 Because like, you know,

Speaker 1 there's some fucked up shit. Like, you know, like...
No, tabloid type shit. Yeah, but a lot of it's bullshit.
Of course it is. It made me look a certain way.

Speaker 1 But meanwhile, me and him ended up really seeing eye to eye, and I was able to articulate why a lot of these things happened. There was one interview

Speaker 1 I missed because I wasn't even told about it. And apparently it was rescheduled three times.
And then I was told about it, and I unfortunately had to reschedule it.

Speaker 1 The guy wrote the most horrible story about me. It was the cover of a magazine, and it was me covered with blood all over my face and just making me just look like fucking Hitler.
And,

Speaker 1 you know, it couldn't be any further from the truth. Like, yeah, I made big mistakes, but I did it.
I was the nicest person, giving, I would give the shirt off my back.

Speaker 1 Any person that ever stopped me in the streets to get a picture, I'm going to ask them how their day was. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm that guy.

Speaker 1 I'm very, very thorough and very consistent.

Speaker 1 Well, that doesn't sell. Yeah.
What sells is you're the worst piece of shit of all time. Oh my god, let me read about this piece of shit.

Speaker 1 That's a horrible thing that journalists do for money.

Speaker 1 They make these pieces where they completely distort a person's essence and they only do it for money.

Speaker 1 They're just like emotional hit people. Let's not talk about everything I've left my footprint in the fucking world.
But at any rate. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Let's just talk about negative things and only from a very distorted perspective.

Speaker 1 Life is nuanced and bal and it's weird. Life Life is fucking crazy.
And sometimes people make mistakes, but it's not their whole being.

Speaker 1 And to try to like condense a person down to like tabloid headlines, like that's the essence of the person. That's crazy.
That's like the least compassionate,

Speaker 1 the least kind way of looking at human beings.

Speaker 1 That's not how human beings are.

Speaker 1 complicated. That's why those little hit pieces, they're gross and they don't really work.
Because people know that. They know that a person...
There's probably a lot more to this.

Speaker 1 Like, why is this per why is this so negative? Like, this is not a balance

Speaker 1 of who that person. Yeah, I'm a complex character if I was in a movie.
But of course, you are. But you're an artist.

Speaker 1 Every artist is complex. I've never met one that isn't.
Well, a very, very

Speaker 1 raw and real

Speaker 1 look at my life is happening now with Atlas Entertainment. We're making a movie, major movie.
Who's gonna play you?

Speaker 1 It's gotta be several me's because

Speaker 1 my span of my career starts ultimately. I'm a kid.
I'm going to be a kid. Maybe they can do CGI, turn you into a kid.
You can play yourself.

Speaker 1 They can do that.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to be involved in production, writing, or acting.

Speaker 1 I needed to be respected and real, raw. Like, it's not going to make me look like the greatest guy.
It's not going to make me look like a bad guy. It's just going to make me look like who I was.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Do you have any say in like because one of the things that drives me nuts is when there's a movie and no one was there and you see like this historical figure say some things and you're like, well, how do I, he didn't really say that.

Speaker 1 Some fucking writer wrote that shit. This is not a real conversation.
I spent a lot of time with

Speaker 1 somebody. This guy, Dan, is freaking amazing, talented guy.
And

Speaker 1 yeah, everything is going to be cool. If I have my way, I have...

Speaker 1 an 18-year-old son who's literally me who I make all of my music with this kid Jalen he's he's my son and he's like one of my best friends what's like when Ice Cube's son played him and this kid looks just like me and at the time I was his age acts just like me perfect to a point where it's not even normal so I can't think of anybody better but we'll get to that I'm not saying he's going to but I would I would love for that to be and I think anybody could see that this kid's capable yeah and and he is me he's like you feel me like my mouth every like different fucking things like you know

Speaker 1 But it's weird when someone's alive and someone's playing that person who's alive. And you know, like, oh, that's not really Scott Storch.
You know what I mean? It's weird.

Speaker 1 It's like a movie about you.

Speaker 1 You remember when Michael Jai White played Mike Tyson?

Speaker 1 You know, and Mike Tyson was still, I mean, they were friends. They were cool with each other.
But like, that ought to be weird. You're playing a dude who's still alive.

Speaker 1 Mike Tyson's a special guy. He's a very special guy.
He's a very good friend of mine. I'm glad he got through that fight and didn't get hurt.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what I was, I was hoping he would knock Jake Paul out.

Speaker 1 Just because that's the Cinderella story. I don't have anything against Jake Paul.
I like Jake Paul. I think what he's doing is genius.

Speaker 1 I think what he's doing is like, I mean, he's got, he's making insane amounts of money. He's having a great fucking time.
He's a legit boxer. He's absolutely a legit boxer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't hate on somebody that works that hard. You cannot.
I would never hate. If you do, you're an idiot.
No, I was like, you know what? This guy is fucking really driven.

Speaker 1 Him and his brother, they're like driven. It's not

Speaker 1 everybody starts somewhere. You know what I'm saying? So they were YouTubers or they were on Disney channel.
Who cares? What do you want to do with it?

Speaker 1 But the reality is, Mike is 58 years old, and I was worried. You know, I just, I love that guy, and he was a hero of mine when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 So, to see him, you know, 58 years old fighting, part of me was like, fuck, me and him has fought a lot of the same demons, and we were there for each other

Speaker 1 in a lot of ways. Like, I've, I talked to him, like, pretty deep conversations with Mike, and he actually checks on me, and like, yo, you good? Like, and I do the same

Speaker 1 and my friend Rick, like, we're all like kind of

Speaker 1 yeah, like

Speaker 1 that's beautiful. He's a beautiful person.
He really is, man. For a guy who was the most terrifying fighter of all time, he's a really nice guy to be around.

Speaker 1 I felt like I was in a fucking movie hangover one time, like, because I was hanging out with him in Vegas.

Speaker 1 I remember we're cruising around in my fucking Bentley Mulsane at the time, and he's like, Yo, I want to, let's go jam out.

Speaker 1 Like, we went to the Palms from my hotel to the Palms, and we rented the studio there just so I could play piano. We're jamming out, playing like old records and shit.
Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 But just cruising around Vegas, Vegas, I was like, damn, it's like fucking hangover. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 Great, dude, man. Vegas is a great example of a place where you have to have balance in.
It's like living in Miami to me.

Speaker 1 You live in Vegas. You should probably live in Henderson.
Yeah, right, Laura. Live out there.
Celine Dion.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Live close to the mountains out there.
Like, don't be right in the middle of all that. Attack it from the outside.
That's what I did in L.A.

Speaker 1 When I lived in LA, I lived like an hour outside L.A. I never lived.
I did when I first moved there, and then I slowly started moving further and further away until I got about.

Speaker 1 I am not comfortable in LA anymore. I used to be.
It's cool. I sleep with one eye open.
Yeah. I sold my house.
I got rid of that fucking place in the valley. I was just home invasions everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's like what they've done to that city in a short amount of time is shocking. I never thought it would go that bad that fast.
And it's the way it is now. It's bizarre.
Yeah, the.

Speaker 1 I always say that it's like a girl that used to date, she was really cute, but now she does meth and she works for the cartel. Like what happened here? The pandemic happened.

Speaker 1 You just remember her from when she was so sweet and cool. Yeah.
Well, the pandemic was the

Speaker 1 reason why the government was able to fuck up that city. It's the pandemic was just that was their way to fuck up the city.
Dude, there were stacks of bricks

Speaker 1 on the street. Yeah, stacks of bricks.
That's where that came from.

Speaker 1 Stacks of bricks that somebody left there hoping someone would throw through windows. Starting riots.

Speaker 1 That's some weirdo shit, bro. It's crazy.
It's like

Speaker 1 spooky and scary. It's spooky.
I don't like to go full Batman on this, but it's like there's evil villains out there that are pulling the strings of the world. And that's real.

Speaker 1 Those fucking protests are organized, man. People spend a lot of money to organize those things and then put bricks out.
The whole thing was designed to disrupt society.

Speaker 1 And then the defund the police bullshit. How anybody bought into that is so crazy.
Reform the police, yeah. Train the police better, yeah.
But defund them? Are you

Speaker 1 all not be safe? Yeah,

Speaker 1 are you out of your fucking mind? Do you not know the law of the jungle? Do you not know the real streets? Let me know when your Klaus gets robbed.

Speaker 1 You want to do fucking shit, you know, you're not going to get a cop. Like, it's not coming now.
I have had so many friends that completely flipped a 180 after they got robbed.

Speaker 1 180. They're Trump supporters now.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 People that were like full-on liberals and then they, you know, get a gun pointed in their face and all of a sudden they're like, oh, this is what we signed up for?

Speaker 1 This is, you're just letting these people out? Like, you arrest these people and let them out? And then they just do it again? And they get arrested. Like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 The assistant to

Speaker 1 the DA in New York just got attacked. Just got by some guy who had been...
See if you can find this. He got robbed by some guy who had been arrested some insane amount of times since 2023.

Speaker 1 I was looking at the story online. I was like, this is so crazy that this person just keeps getting out and keeps robbing people and then just robbed the assistant assistant to the DA, Alvin Bragg.

Speaker 1 R-O-R-d out. Here it is.
Suspected gang member accused of exposing himself, robbing Manhattan District. Exposing himself.
He pulled his dick out and he robbed him.

Speaker 1 Exposing himself is funny because they have exposed, go to the headline, exposing himself is first.

Speaker 1 The robbing part, that's second. But he showed him his penis.
That is unbelievable. Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 What do you mean to laugh about it, but it's just like, it's comedy, bro. It's like satire almost.

Speaker 1 Brandon Somosa confronted the 38-year-old victim in the hallway of her building on West 44th Street around 2 a.m.

Speaker 1 Authorities say he grabbed the victim's purse, cell phone, and bank card before exposing himself. He pulled his dick out after he robbed her.

Speaker 1 He robbed her first, but they put it exposing himself first, like the most horrible thing that he did.

Speaker 1 Police were able to track the phone and eventually arrest him near a hotel on West 45th Street, 8th Avenue on Tuesday, leading authorities to believe the suspect is a migrant. Possession of drugs.

Speaker 1 No, they know who the guy is, Jamie. They caught the guy.
He's been, see if you can find a more updated version of it because

Speaker 1 he was arrested a ton of times since 2023.

Speaker 1 Exposing himself makes more sense now that it's a lady. I thought it was, was that, Jamie? It's still on there.
Oh, okay, right there.

Speaker 1 He's been arrested six times in the last five months for similar crimes. Six times.
Wouldn't you think after five times they go, hey, maybe this guy's a real criminal? We may need to lock him up.

Speaker 1 Maybe we'd need to put him in jail. Maybe he's a real criminal.
Nope. Keep him out there.

Speaker 1 There's reasons jesus christ that's the world we're living in now and that's l a and that's new york and that's uh a lot of places that got fucked up by incompetent people i don't know i just feel safer knowing like

Speaker 1 i feel safer knowing that trump is in office i do too i like feel great about it like i've just like what i don't feel safer is right now they're launching missiles into russia yeah the how do you how are you allowed to do that when you're on the way out like the people don't want you to be there anymore this should be like some sort of a like a pause for like significant actions that could potentially start World War III.

Speaker 1 Maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid from a dying former president.

Speaker 1 The whole thing is nuts. I mean, look, I don't know shit about politics.
Zelensky says Putin is terrified. Fuck you, man.

Speaker 1 Fuck you people. You fucking people are about to start World War III.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's crazy. Russia fired a missile today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they fired an intercontinental ballistic missile for the first time ever. It's the first time one of those has ever been used.
I said insanity.

Speaker 1 It's fucking insanity because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes on them. This one didn't.

Speaker 1 But if it does, the whole world changes and it changes because of the military-industrial complex and it changes because of the money that's going to Ukraine.

Speaker 1 And it changes because the outgoing president or whoever the fuck is actually running the country has

Speaker 1 decided to do something fucking insane.

Speaker 1 Fucking insane. And we're all sitting there watching it and people are cheering it on.

Speaker 1 CNN was saying, like, finally, see what their headline was about Zelensky using, about Biden giving Zelensky the ability to use long-range missiles. U.S.
made long-range missions.

Speaker 1 It's not like nobody knows where they came from. It's not like nobody knows we've been funding this.
It's a proxy war. The whole thing is fucking insane.
It's insane.

Speaker 1 Come to the negotiation table. Sit down.
Work this out. Stop killing everybody.
U.S. allows Ukraine to use long-range missiles.
So what did they say?

Speaker 1 Someone had said that like CNN was saying that it was a good thing, which I think is how? How has the left gone so far crazy that they think it's a good thing to launch missiles?

Speaker 1 That's what's scary about life is like you don't want to pay attention to that shit. You just want to live your life.

Speaker 1 You want to just be carefree and have fun and do the thing that you're passionate about. And meanwhile, the world is burning.
And you you just can't do anything about it at that high level.

Speaker 1 It's like there's nothing.

Speaker 1 Well, we can. We voted Trump in, and

Speaker 1 his idea is to stop all this shit, and hopefully he can do that.

Speaker 1 But, you know, man, fuck. It's scary.
I feel like none of the fucking

Speaker 1 problems between the Ukraine and Russia would have been exacerbated as far as they went had Trump been in office.

Speaker 1 I like to think that.

Speaker 1 I genuinely believe that he has a way of

Speaker 1 keeping the peace in a certain way.

Speaker 1 Well, as soon as he got elected, the Taliban said, let's form a truce. You know, Hamas is saying, let's cease fire.
Everybody is saying these things

Speaker 1 right away. China was saying, we'd like to do business with America.
Russia was saying that.

Speaker 1 Let's fucking calm everybody down and stop being so fucking tribal. You're so crazy that you think that everything the left is doing is right because you're on the left.
This is insanity.

Speaker 1 And for anybody that's a left-wing progressive person to think that somehow or another missiles are a good thing, God damn it. God damn it, you people out of your fucking mindset.

Speaker 1 That's never the answer.

Speaker 1 It's never the answer. This is craziness, especially with Russia.
God damn.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 But anyways. That's the shit that keeps me up at night, man.
Oh, I know. When I get paranoid late at night when everyone's asleep, that's the thing that gets me.
World war. The war just broke.

Speaker 1 Because it's happened before, man. The world has been at peace before, and then all of a sudden chaos.
And to think that that can never happen again,

Speaker 1 you're wrong. It's happening right now.
It's just not happening here. And we don't feel it here.
So we don't, it doesn't affect our thinking process.

Speaker 1 And we support things that could lead to it happening here. And we don't even realize we're doing it while we're doing it.
As a human being, wouldn't you think that

Speaker 1 keeping yourself and the rest of the population of the world safe is priority? Number one. It's priority.
That's number one. And peace.
And by the way, everybody wants peace.

Speaker 1 Everybody wants their children to be happy. Everybody wants to be well-fed and healthy.
Everybody wants that. Just figure out a way to fucking balance it all out.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 we've got 60 more days until Trump gets in or whatever it is. How many days is it, Jamie?

Speaker 1 20th? I don't know. But who knows? Maybe once it gets in, they'll ramp it up.
Who knows? Maybe they'll sabotage his administration. That's what's even more scary.
People don't want him in power.

Speaker 1 And the people that are in power don't want to leave power, and they'll try every way they can to keep it. 60 days from today.

Speaker 1 All right. On the news.
60 days. Just keep your fingers crossed.
Yeah. Just hope Putin understands what's going on as well.

Speaker 1 And Zelensky doesn't do anything stupid, but saying that Putin's terrified, God damn it. It's like you're trying to tug the tail of a fucking sleeping

Speaker 1 dragon. Dragon.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, Zelensky, can I get a drug test? Can we just get one drug test before he's sending you any more money? Like, what are you doing? Are you doing a lot of blow over there?

Speaker 1 Like, because this is like blow-like behavior. I'm not responsible for him.

Speaker 1 But you know what I'm saying? This is like cocaine-like behavior. Putin's fucking scared, man.
Yeah. Putin's terrified.
Jacked up. We got him.
We got him, man. We got him.

Speaker 1 Like, what are you talking about? He has nuclear missiles, you fucking monkeys. Jesus Christ.
It's my chance right now. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Putin should not have invaded Ukraine. Yes, 100%.

Speaker 1 But don't start World War III.

Speaker 1 There's got to be a way to settle this. There must be.
I got to put some of this into my music, like these feelings and even the conversations we're having.

Speaker 1 One of my best, my favorite anti-war songs is Ghetto Boys. Fuck a war.
Yeah. Bushwick Bill.

Speaker 1 Willie Dee told me he wrote that in 40 minutes. I like ghetto boys.
I fucking love ghetto boys.

Speaker 1 Storytellers. Yes.
Like Polo Cool G rap. Oh, yeah, man.

Speaker 1 Cock blocking. Yeah.
Fucking

Speaker 1 best storytellers. Oh, my God.
Scarface. Yeah.
And Cool G. Hill Street Blues.
Yeah. No, I love Cool G rap.
I'm on the verge of committing murder.

Speaker 1 It's like a whole fucking plot to me. He had a great flow, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had a great flow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Cool G rap was awesome. Hip-hop's different these days, man.
I heard he's like a, someone, somebody's a devout religious man man now. Really?

Speaker 1 See if that's true. I always wondered what happened to that dude.

Speaker 1 That was a guy that I felt like didn't get his due

Speaker 1 on the world stage. Like, people don't respect him for as good as he really was.
Because I would tell like some young guys about Coogee Rap, they don't even know who he is.

Speaker 1 And I play music in the green room. You ever hear the brand new heavies, like the jazz band when they linked up with a bunch of rappers, the heavy rhyme experience? Have you ever heard that album?

Speaker 1 Of course. Coogee Rap's Death Threat is the best track on that.
I played that shit in the green room of the mothership, and I was like, What is this, man? He's saying some shit.

Speaker 1 Yes, he's saying some shit, and it's with the brand new heavies playing the music. Funky, yeah, fucking tremendous.
Jazz. Tremendous.
They did a great thing with Gangstar, too. Yep.

Speaker 1 They have a great song with Gangstar, too, that's on that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love that. That's where I entered into my passion and love for hip-hop, is that era.
Yeah. I was saying that earlier.
That's one of my favorite eras. Nas,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 Ilmatic,

Speaker 1 God's song.

Speaker 1 That's like one of, it's almost like the Sgt. Pepper is a rap.
Yeah. Ilmatic.
Yeah, man. Oh, my God.
And how old was he when he made that? He was young, man. Real young.

Speaker 1 One Love. Yeah.
Genius. How about Rewind? Yeah.
Rewind is one of the most genius rap songs of all time.

Speaker 1 It tells a story backwards. Yeah, insane.
And it's genius, and it's fun. and it's, it's, the flow's great.
Mind-melting shit, right? I think Nas is my all-time favorite lyricist.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like Nas and then everybody else is like, I mean, I love them all, but like, to me, Nas is a special lyricist. Like, his lyrics are special.

Speaker 1 Like, he's got so many oh moments where you listen to me, oh,

Speaker 1 oh.

Speaker 1 It's not even just punchlines. It's like just a whole subject matter is the way he describes the way he hits things.
You can paint a picture.

Speaker 1 He paints a picture, but it's the way the way he chooses his words. Like we were listening to Get Down last night.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 God damn, that's good. A word choice.

Speaker 1 M is to me like one of the really like the greats of that.

Speaker 1 Saying things in a different amount of syllables or a word that you wouldn't expect. It's just real creative shit.
Yeah. I love Jadakiss at Style Speed.

Speaker 1 I think Jadakiss is like in my top tops.

Speaker 1 DMX.

Speaker 1 My workout music is Wu-Tang Clan. Oh, yeah.
That's my workout music.

Speaker 1 Gravel pit, when you're hitting the bag. Of course.
You know, and whenever we do shows, we have like a ritual.

Speaker 1 Like when we're driving to the arena, especially if we're getting a police escort, which is the craziest shit of all time. You're going to do a show and you got a police escort.

Speaker 1 And we always listen to Protect Your Neck. Like, oh, we got to play it.
Like, okay, here we go. Let's go.
Protect your neck. Let's go.
We're on our way to the arena.

Speaker 1 And then once we get in the door, I'm your boogeyman.

Speaker 1 Casey in the Sunshine Van. Boogeyman.
I know, Casey. Casey Man.
Yeah, like, just to get everything going. Like, let's go.
Casey.

Speaker 1 You mentioned his name. I have to do it.
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Speaker 1 I was like, wow, it's fucking KC, Casey in the Sunshine Bin.

Speaker 1 And we meet, and he's like, I saw your MTV Cribs, and I'm just going to tell you that I spend more on my flowers and my orchids than you probably do on your cars every month. I was just like,

Speaker 1 what the?

Speaker 1 Wow, what a weird flex. What a weird flex.
I was like, okay. Okay.
Cool. I think you're wasting money because those flowers are going to die.
And I I got a Bugatti. So to each his own.
Bizarre quotes.

Speaker 1 That doesn't even make any sense. You're getting robbed.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Your florist is a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 Hey, everybody's got their own thing. I know, but you're getting robbed.
If you're spending that much money on your flowers, you are getting fucking robbed. He is facetious, but he was making a point.

Speaker 1 But that's a crazy flex.

Speaker 1 It's also a weird way to introduce yourself to somebody. Yeah, I had just met him.

Speaker 1 But isn't that one of those things where you're like, you used to be on top and you want to show everybody you're still on top?

Speaker 1 Just like you were talking about, like wearing the diamonds and the jewelry. Go up to the guy who's hot right now and say, yeah, I saw your MTV cribs, but guess what? My flowers are.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I spent more money on dirt.

Speaker 1 Dude, I've seen some crazy shit in my life, bro.

Speaker 1 I've had some crazy fucking moments for a fucking poor boy that came from nothing and rose to like a place where it's like, I've seen life on every side of like, I've seen life as a poor boy, seen life as

Speaker 1 making it, made it, blew it, this, that. I've seen like,

Speaker 1 I remember sitting in St. Bard's.

Speaker 1 I had been invited on the boat of

Speaker 1 pretty successful,

Speaker 1 very wealthy

Speaker 1 Russian people that I knew, I know.

Speaker 1 And sitting there chilling, doing my normal, like,

Speaker 1 just hanging thing. And

Speaker 1 I see a battleship pull up like an actual like

Speaker 1 fucking army or navy whatever fuck boat pull up near us somebody gets off the tender

Speaker 1 gets on the boat I'm on and it was Qaddafi's son whoa yeah

Speaker 1 like what the fuck this is surreal this is and what year is this was Gaddafi still alive yeah I don't forget what year it was I think it was like 2008

Speaker 1 so he's probably still alive yeah and

Speaker 1 he was telling me how his country is becoming much more like open-minded and normal and this and that.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I had a keyboard. I was like jamming out, playing and shit.
And I'm just such a fucking weirdo. I was like playing Havana Guila.

Speaker 1 I was just like a weirdo, dude. It was funny.
But I've seen some shit, man. I've seen the fucking craziest.
It's a great American story.

Speaker 1 That's the great American story, you know? Like coming from nothing, chasing your dream, making your dream, fucking up your life along the way, but still alive to tell the story. You know?

Speaker 1 See fucking BMF out at the club all the time and like be in the club. And I'll be like, yo, these guys over there, they just sent you 20 bodies of Christal.
And you're like, okay, who are they?

Speaker 1 And they're like, this is the fucking, this is the guys. I'm like, okay, cool.
Thank you guys. Like, they were fucking cool as shit to me every time I see them.
Weird. Yeah.
I never had any drama.

Speaker 1 I never had any like crazy situations happen because I think in the terms of like

Speaker 1 I was providing opportunity for a lot of fucking people like trying to like make it like rappers from the streets.

Speaker 1 So people were just always cool with me and like

Speaker 1 I was respectful to everybody around me. Did you ever have a communication with that guy who called you the white devil? Nah.
That was it? That was it. You ever talked to him afterwards?

Speaker 1 I knew what I had to do. I had to like make my own world and like people that love me and be around those people.

Speaker 1 That's a terrible way to think.

Speaker 1 yeah it's such a terrible way to think that someone just because their color their skin even though they're they work with you and you're cool together that you could just out that person

Speaker 1 that the other side has endured over like of course beginning of time it's like okay so what whatever but it just hurt my feelings because it was my fam right i thought and like i guess like i just felt like

Speaker 1 I just felt fucked up and I was like, you know what?

Speaker 1 If anybody knows me, they know that like I'm not that devil. Like, I'm the guy that's just loving,

Speaker 1 like, free-spirited, like, open-minded, like, non-racist. Right, but that doesn't sell headlines, buddy.
Yeah, I know. The white devil sells headlines.

Speaker 1 The white devil gets people feeling better about themselves. I moved to L.A.
and started working in Trey's camp, and I felt so much love and respect.

Speaker 1 I was made to feel like what I was bringing to the table and that crew was like, they were like identifying that shit and they were like praising me and making me feel great.

Speaker 1 Well, you know the expression. Game recognizes game.
Yeah, right? Yeah, that's what it is. People see you and they hear you and they know, they see like, oh, this guy's a wizard.

Speaker 1 Like, what's going on? Okay. You're staying here for a long time, Scott.

Speaker 1 I let a lot of people down, man, when I got heavy into drugs, like... like the Dr.
Dre's of the world. It's like they're trying to hang in there with me like, fuck, bro.
Like, at some point,

Speaker 1 you know, they got to like put me on timeout. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that's probably good for you, too. Yeah.
When you disappoint people that you respect and care for,

Speaker 1 that's like, that's a real emotional rock bottom. You know, that's, and that's, sometimes people need that to course correct.

Speaker 1 If everything's going great, you have no reason to stop doing blow and partying all night. Everything's perfect.

Speaker 1 And, you know, there's a lot of people that will enable you to keep that life going because they're feeding off of you. Misery loves company.

Speaker 1 There's that, but then there's also people that like all they want to do is keep you happy because they make a living off of you, and so they don't want to rock the boat. Right.

Speaker 1 So they don't care like if you're destroying yourself. But the truth is,

Speaker 1 there's two different modes. There's the guy that can make music and smokes his weed and fucking

Speaker 1 eat pizza and just is like a normal guy. And then when I flip to that other thing,

Speaker 1 cocaine is not a drug you can really make, I feel like,

Speaker 1 good music on.

Speaker 1 It may seem good when you're making it, but you listen to it the next day. Because

Speaker 1 the emotions, it's like a whirlwind of emotions that you feel when you're in that world. Like you really feel like

Speaker 1 happiness, sadness, this, that, the other, like all these things. All within 10 minutes, you could have all these emotions and it's no good.

Speaker 1 So, how are you going to stay on something that you want to make people feel a certain way? Right.

Speaker 1 So, That's, I mean, I've never done Coke, but everybody that I know does Coke says you can't perform on it. It fucks you up.
You don't feel right. You're, you know.

Speaker 1 No, because you're feeling 20 different emotions inside of a minute. And it's like you can only think about one thing when you're on it is that.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's no real good coke story. Not recommended for anybody.
I don't know anybody who's got like a great Coke story. No.
Maybe one night.

Speaker 1 But most Coke stories lead to my life fell apart no happy ending no no happy no there's no like coke advocates right you know there's a lot of marijuana advocates they'll tell you marijuana changed my life marijuana made me more compassionate because that's me made marijuana made me a kinder person more sensitive you know more into community more into love nobody says that about there's no cocaine fixed my life my life is kind of a mess and i started doing blow and then man it all just came together you know i realized that's what i need i was a little i think i'm a little imbalanced i just need cocaine every day i remember being so perplexed i i i don't like throwing people under the bus so i won't say who it is but one of the most

Speaker 1 massive people in the world of technology like in the world of

Speaker 1 These younger computer guys that became extremely famous like start people that started Facebooks and this and that all that type of shit like one of those guys I'm not gonna say who, but like somebody who's fucking so huge.

Speaker 1 I went to visit him with some friends of mine. I was sitting at a table, whacking it up, and the dude's telling me that he had just had a heart attack a couple of nights before.

Speaker 1 And then he started talking about how

Speaker 1 cocaine is one of the most poorly publicized drugs in the world. I was like, what the fuck am I listening to? Me, even being onto the influence, was like, this is frightening.

Speaker 1 This was one of those guys, like one of the big, big,

Speaker 1 like change the world kind of people. So he was telling you he just had a heart attack.
Cocaine is awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he's super smart. Yeah.
Which is even scarier because you can convince yourself that. The whole world knows who this guy is.
Wow. The whole world.
But, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I've had many situations where

Speaker 1 people so selfishly,

Speaker 1 even knowing I'm recovering or recovered or whatever the fuck you want to call it, want to like have the opportunity to do something that'll pull me aside like I always wanted to do a bump with you

Speaker 1 man but no

Speaker 1 we can't do that bro when was the last time you did one oh shit I mean I've I've fallen within the past six months but you know I got good people around me now that's good and like the shame the guilt and everything just prevents you from

Speaker 1 from enjoying that and making like even thinking about doing it. Like, can't do that.
That's good. That's good.
Hey, man, six months is great. Yeah.
Six days is great.

Speaker 1 The whole thing is just, you're going to fall. And if you fall, get up.

Speaker 1 Get up. It's okay.
You're a human being. Human beings fuck up.
They make mistakes.

Speaker 1 Especially when you're dealing with something like addiction. And most people think that can never be me.
That could never be. I'm not like that.
Yeah, it could definitely be you.

Speaker 1 There's things that trigger it, and it's usually pussy.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like, you're not in it, like, you have no intention whatsoever of

Speaker 1 doing something, and then all of a sudden, it's right there in front of you. There's a fucking ass-naked girl, and there's a pile of this, and there's you had like

Speaker 1 drinks. I've done it before, and I could just do it this one time.
Yeah, I'm gonna be okay. Yeah, we'll be okay.

Speaker 1 Three days later, you're looking out the window, like ah, like the front, bloodshot eyes, like you got pink eyes,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, but too too much going on now, man. That's kind of being

Speaker 1 with my single, with like my album. You know, it's just.

Speaker 1 Well, it seems like you're in a good place. That's great.
That's a great place. That's awesome.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I think it's so important for people like you to tell your story raw and unedited like you do. Because I think people want to see a person that's been very successful, and they want to have this rosy

Speaker 1 view of what their life was like. People love to build you up, but they love love tearing you down at the same time.

Speaker 1 It becomes like a and then for me

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 in my business, it's such a desperate business. If people know I'm of sound mind and like at the top of my game and I'm making some fucking fire ass music, that's a threat for certain people.

Speaker 1 Of course. So they'll block it like, and they'll perpetuate the rumors and do whatever the fuck to make sure that I don't get behind.
They're like a goalie for the artist. Like, so many huge artists,

Speaker 1 they don't want me to get with them because they know what's going to happen. I'm going to make better shit.

Speaker 1 People don't like when someone's talented, and they don't like when someone's successful because everybody compares themselves to other people. That's the real problem: comparison is the thief of joy.

Speaker 1 Is that Thoreau? Is that what it was? Say that? I think it was Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Thoreau is most men

Speaker 1 lead lives of quiet desperation.

Speaker 1 But comparison is the thief of joy, that's a real thing, man.

Speaker 1 And if you're a person that's looking at someone else's success and somehow or another wanting to diminish that, you're doing it to yourself, whether you realize it or not. You are wasting your own

Speaker 1 precious life energy on hating on a person. And that will take away your gift.
It'll take away your creativity. It'll take away your ability to be present

Speaker 1 because they're fools. That's why they do it in the first place.
Job security. It's a foolish venture.

Speaker 1 And even if it works, even if it works, you're doing yourself into it because you know you're a piece of shit. You know that you've done that to a person.

Speaker 1 You know you've distorted who that person is just because you want to feel better about your own life.

Speaker 1 You want someone to falter so that you don't feel, when you're comparing yourself to them, you don't feel inadequate. And that's the reason.
It's just pettiness. It's just human weakness.

Speaker 1 And it's one of its grossest forms. And it's not called out enough.
You know,

Speaker 1 it's really

Speaker 1 a disgusting behavior pattern. It's bad for humanity.
I genuinely

Speaker 1 feel joy and excitement and

Speaker 1 happiness for friends or colleagues that have success. Yeah, you should.
And it's inspiring. I just see so many others that just

Speaker 1 don't look at it like that. Because they're selfish.

Speaker 1 They're haters. But that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 And you could say that that's selfish in a way, because when you help people and when you're inspired by other people's success and when you enjoy other people's success you are experiencing a positive thing and that positive thing is one of the most important aspects of life like

Speaker 1 to deny yourself that because you can't control your emotions and you can't control your jealousy and your feelings and to like hate on someone you're denying yourself an opportunity to feel good and you could genuinely feel happy for everyone's success and still be successful it doesn't doesn't take away your success at all.

Speaker 1 It's just a mental trap. And people need to understand that trap.
Insecurities. It is insecurity.

Speaker 1 But it's also a lack of understanding of how your mind works, how the human mind can play little tricks on you and lay traps for you and how jealousy can rear its ugly head and distort your views.

Speaker 1 We fall into certain ways. Yes.

Speaker 1 We fall into certain ways. When I was in the fucking

Speaker 1 limelight, and now I'm like in like Team Hilton, and I'm hanging out with certain people I'm hanging out with like some fucking like spoiled brat lucky sperm club ass fucking degenerates and like basically competing with who could be the most obnoxious in the crew like you don't see that happening until like I looked back at videos and things of me I was like dude what a chump I was like

Speaker 1 doing that I was like slowly but surely like turning into that yeah just to be like I don't know just

Speaker 1 that's the shit that's fucked up. Like you just have to like really always maintain

Speaker 1 who you really are and like not get lost in that shit and like live for others or try and be.

Speaker 1 Did we were we talking about this on the podcast the other day or was it a green room conversation? Someone said that

Speaker 1 personalities are as infectious as diseases.

Speaker 1 It can be. Someone was saying that like energy, like people's energy is as infectious as diseases.

Speaker 1 And when you're around someone that has a great personality and very positive, you get infected by that positivity. You start exuding that.

Speaker 1 And when you're around shitheads, like fucking dumbasses who just think it a stupid fucking way, you start thinking that way. It's contagious.

Speaker 1 There's something to it. You got to be careful about the company we keep.
Oh, my God. This world is so polluted, right? It's the most important thing.

Speaker 1 It's the most important thing is your community, right? Your family, your friends, your community, the people that you associate with.

Speaker 1 And if you're associating with shitheads, you're going to have a fucked up experience.

Speaker 1 The less people I come in contact with for me is the better. Like, I like being home.
I like going to nice restaurants, and I like being home.

Speaker 1 I don't really like going out and fucking, because all that energy rubs off on you and people's karma, whatever the fuck it is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The anxiety, everything. Although the weirdness of people, comparing with each other, who's got the the better watch, who's wearing the nicer shoes.
Like, what the fuck are we doing? Go over that.

Speaker 1 It's stupid. That's good.
You're smart. You're wiser.
Yep. It takes time to figure these things out.

Speaker 1 But better late than never. Yeah, but you still have the art.
You still have the desire for the art. Threw the whole thing.

Speaker 1 We lost that passion that we spoke of earlier for a while, and now it's back like a motherfucker. Beautiful.
Yeah, I'm in there.

Speaker 1 That's the American success story. And wouldn't you rather that than at the type, height of your fame, but the party and the drugs and the fucking chaos and falling apart?

Speaker 1 It's better to just like embrace the art. That's where it like that.
And if it's not real, I don't want to fuck with it. Right.
Like, I'm like, not going to, like,

Speaker 1 chase checks to work on music. Like, I'm going to work on what's great.
And that's how you fucking do what's right. You stay in your lane and you do what's, you know.

Speaker 1 Is there any way to play the single I got coming?

Speaker 1 Sure. I think I have it.

Speaker 1 But I'm going to show you this girl's 21.

Speaker 1 Is there a picture that you can?

Speaker 1 He's like,

Speaker 1 it's like

Speaker 1 I have a single cover. Yeah, I just have the song.
I can Google it or something. No, it's all good.
I'll show you I'll show you. But the girl is like organic.
Like she doesn't need auto-tune.

Speaker 1 She's not like

Speaker 1 she's real. So

Speaker 1 this is just an example.

Speaker 1 Auto-tune is a wild thing. Yeah.
Abby stare.

Speaker 1 Texture.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't see this every day in like artists. It's usually like some.

Speaker 1 I feel beat, I'm out clean, sitting in this room. Life is quiet all alone.

Speaker 1 She's a writer. But I'm not there, and if you cared, you'd already know.

Speaker 1 Cause the stories are all just for show.

Speaker 1 You're finally gone, but at least I have some leniency.

Speaker 1 And I may feel something just because you don't.

Speaker 1 And a girl falling hard, no, it ain't for the weak.

Speaker 1 So do try this and I

Speaker 1 guess

Speaker 1 it's a funny game still. It's your last,

Speaker 1 last,

Speaker 1 last,

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 guess.

Speaker 1 You forgot to read the label, that's your bad,

Speaker 1 bad,

Speaker 1 bad, bad.

Speaker 1 My faith would die away

Speaker 1 if I go back to that place.

Speaker 1 I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 I'd rather fly away, await ten times longer to feel the right way on my own.

Speaker 1 My faith would die away

Speaker 1 if I go back to that place.

Speaker 1 I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 I'd rather fly away, await ten times longer to feel the right way on my own. Mama told me:

Speaker 1 If you can't live without something, then you gotta give it up.

Speaker 1 Can't live with it, either. I guess I'm the problem when it's all said and done.

Speaker 1 You laughed at your fun, I got the last one.

Speaker 1 Something told me

Speaker 1 when you was popping shit. I just knew you would never live it up.
Courtesy or the bottle, you fucked around and found out about them, but you still shy your shot. You drunk off my sex, my sex.

Speaker 1 So, what you're listening to is a girl. That's an amazing voice.
She writes that shit. See, the conviction:

Speaker 1 if you get a songwriter, a big fancy songwriter to work with some girl and like teach her how to have emotion, it's not the same. That's right.
There she is. It's a lot of her Amy Winehouse vibes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, Amy Winehouse vibes in that song. In this fact that it's both organic, different.
No, not different, not like she's copying Amy Wine, but like that vibe of authenticity. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And she's a real one. She's 21.
She's 21. Damn.
And the emotion is there that comes from. And she writes all that.
Yeah, she's like... That's incredible.
That shit is not something like that could be.

Speaker 1 Put that up again, Jamie? Melody. Is that available right now? Can I get that? Yeah.
Yeah, it would just be a good idea. I'm going to add that shit to my Spotify playlist.

Speaker 1 I'm going to put that on on the green room playlist right now

Speaker 1 on my own. Yep, that's gonna be the first one.
Look, I'm showcasing her. That's my this is my single.
It's Scott Storch featuring Abby stare, but um,

Speaker 1 she we're you know, I'm part of the making of her

Speaker 1 physical her album, which is already has a bunch of stuff that she made on her own, that she made, and then stuff I've did with her, and uh, 1217 records, me and my partner, Kevin.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're.

Speaker 1 That voice is amazing, man. Oh, she's dope.
And, you know, I got some great records. I got records with A-list celebrities like that.

Speaker 1 You know, it's not exciting to play as, like, for me, a record with somebody who has already sold millions and millions of records, like, for my project. I want to break.

Speaker 1 I made a habit in my career of...

Speaker 1 breaking artists and like I've like I did Chris Brown's first song and I told him sitting in the studio, I'm gonna make you a hit record today. He was like 15, 16, and I did that.

Speaker 1 We made run it that day. I've done a lot of, you know, when I came back into the business after my like dark period of just not doing anything except doing drugs, which lasted eight, nine years,

Speaker 1 I met Steve LaBelle

Speaker 1 and Steve.

Speaker 1 Not only were we partners on the rehab center, but he was helping me get back into the music thing. And I was like, yo, get me a meeting with Jay-Z.

Speaker 1 Get me Beyonce. Give me all the people I made hits for.
He's like, fuck no.

Speaker 1 They're not going to work with you right now. Show them what you're doing.
I'm going to give you the best blueprint. Some people like to jump the gun.
Yeah, he's like,

Speaker 1 this artist, this artist, this artist, this artist, this artist. These are all new artists.
You don't know who they are.

Speaker 1 But if you make them fire,

Speaker 1 everybody's going to look at you like you're a fucking get the Heisman trophy again. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 1 One by one, every single one of those artists that he put me with that were nobodies at this point are all huge right now. Trippy Red, Abe Boogie,

Speaker 1 Roddy Rich,

Speaker 1 Russ, who's one of my favorites. Like, I love Russ.
I don't know if you're familiar with his music. He's just like, he's got something to say.
He's like...

Speaker 1 He's the man. Like, you gotta like fuck with Russ.
He's a really serious artist today. I've seen this guy without radio because he has a fan base, a cult fan fan base, because what he does is so real.

Speaker 1 Without radio or any shit, he's selling out arenas by himself.

Speaker 1 That's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing.
He's just I love that that's happening today. Yeah, they've kind of taken the

Speaker 1 gatekeeper.

Speaker 1 The gatekeeper is out of the equation now. Yeah, all something has to do is be good and get it online.
He released 200 songs in one year, just like SoundCloud or whatever the fuck goes to wow,

Speaker 1 200 songs in a year? Yeah. holy shit you know and he just started that consistency yeah

Speaker 1 it became an acquired taste and then so you just you love watching people make it yeah I like being responsible for that it's more of a challenge than just oh I'm gonna make Drake a hit you know I really want to work with Drake but I've been roadblock with Drake I know Drake loves

Speaker 1 me and my production but for whatever reason

Speaker 1 I haven't been able to get in I want to get a hold of Drake and talk to him about his fight picks yeah That motherfucker loses more money on fights.

Speaker 1 I want to call him up and talk about

Speaker 1 John Jones by KO. Before it's over, I need to get a record off with him.

Speaker 1 I want to get a record off with him. Wasn't John Jones a 600-1 favorite? I mean, well, he had it by KO.
It wasn't just the win, but yeah. That's what I would have said anyway.

Speaker 1 I would not have thought John would have. I mean, that's an easy bet.
I want to get a record off with Rihanna, too.

Speaker 1 I had a very uncomfortable meeting with Rihanna, and I'm mortified to this day. Uncomfortable because of the cocaine? No.
What happened?

Speaker 1 She was in a VIP in New York years and years ago

Speaker 1 and doing her thing and whatever and they like, obviously people know who I am so they didn't from and they let me up into her table. This was a greenhouse and back in the day and

Speaker 1 I introduced myself and whatever and I gave her a hug.

Speaker 1 And I fucking got hooked onto her hoop earring. My clothes got hooked on.
And I'm like, don't move, don't move, don't move.

Speaker 1 Shit's going to, I almost ripped the fucking ear off accidentally. Oh, no.
That walk out of that VIP room was the most mortified, most embarrassing shit I ever fucking felt in my life.

Speaker 1 I was like, she's cool. I bet she

Speaker 1 doesn't remember. I don't know if she's not really doing that.
It wouldn't mean to get her earring. I know, but that's an accident.
You're that guy at that moment. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 That guy.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, it haunts me. You're meaning somebody.
I really didn't hook up with that earring. You want to make a good impression and you get her ear ripped off.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whatever. Life is full of surprises.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 is like your favorite, your favorite thing seems to be breaking new people then. Is it because you get to show the world new talent? Is it, does it remind you of you when you were getting your breaks?

Speaker 1 You're helping sculpt what somebody's sound is going to be, the backbone of what they started, like

Speaker 1 creating something new.

Speaker 1 And I think that's a,

Speaker 1 to me, like my sound has always been to not have a sound and like, you know,

Speaker 1 have like different like genetic strains of music. I call them like different things that I brought to the table that nobody else was doing.

Speaker 1 And then when people start doing it so much, you're honored, copying you, and then you move on to the next thing. But like with artists, you get to like concoct some kind of new vibe with them.

Speaker 1 I did Beyoncé's first solo album, We Made a Sound, and we did three

Speaker 1 smashes. I I did three straight smashes out of three songs I did.
One was Baby Boy, Naughty Girl, and Me, Myself, and I. And at that point,

Speaker 1 I had just moved from

Speaker 1 L.A.

Speaker 1 And, like, I had been working with Dre for so many years. And I'm looking at Dre and I'm like,

Speaker 1 Dre has his empire.

Speaker 1 And I need to like go off and like create my empire, not competing, but doing something different within music and not using that sound that he and I created and sculpted together which was like the new wave of West Coast music I moved back to Florida to Miami where I hadn't been in eons I because I went from Florida as a kid and so I lived there until I was 15 and I moved to to Philly with my dad

Speaker 1 and then from Philly to LA.

Speaker 1 And now I'm going from back

Speaker 1 to go start my own little world. I'm now rich.
Okay, and I go home to Florida. I'm rich.
And I'm ready to fucking make my own little sound and shit, create some shit.

Speaker 1 Beyonce was one of the first contestants.

Speaker 1 And we fucking solidified that shit and made history with that album. Like, I remember she did the Grammys

Speaker 1 and she thanked God and then she thanked me first. Like, and I was like, I have it up.
I'm like, it was like one of the biggest honors of the world.

Speaker 1 And we made history. And

Speaker 1 that's the ultimate thing that I want to continue to do.

Speaker 1 I want to do that with Abby. And I feel like

Speaker 1 once I get driven like that, there's nothing can stop me.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to prove my point. That's beautiful.
Scott, it's been great talking to you, man. I really appreciate it.
I appreciate you coming down here. It's been a lot of fun.
Thanks, man.

Speaker 1 Wow, we did three hours. It's close, like two and a half hours now.
That's crazy. I could talk, right? Yeah, man.
Well, you got good stories.

Speaker 1 You got a good story. And you have a good story.
Your story is a good story. And like I said, I think it's a great story for people to hear.
People, that's why people like biographies.

Speaker 1 You know, people like to find out, like, was it easy for you? Why am I struggling? Like, what is this struggle like? Is it the same for everybody?

Speaker 1 When you're struggling yourself, you think you're alone. And when you have a dream and you don't know if it's going to come true, you go, was everybody like this?

Speaker 1 Nothing great comes easy. Nothing.
Nothing. Thank you for having me.
My pleasure, brother. Pleasure to meet you.
Pleasure to hang with you. My man.
Appreciate you very much. Sure.
All right. Bye.
Bye.

Speaker 1 Bye.