#2414 - Brian Simpson

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Speaker 1 Did you watch it? Did you watch the UFC?

Speaker 1 Oh my god. These lot of chops.

Speaker 1 Fuck dude, goes up one weight class, goes up to 170. He was the 55-pound, most dominant champion ever, most title defensive 55 ever, just dominates at 170.
Like

Speaker 1 every round. People are are saying it's boring, but listen, man,

Speaker 1 it's boring if you're a casual. The fact that he was able to do it every round, it was a little frustrating because you wanted Jack to try to adjust, but he couldn't, man.

Speaker 1 Islam shut his game down right away. He low-kicked the shit out of his front leg real quick, had him limping real quick.
Like within the first round, he had hit it three or four times. Bad.

Speaker 1 Imagine being Khabib. You know, just your protege is coming in.
And Khabib's even better than him. Right.
That's what's so crazy. That's how good those guys are.

Speaker 1 But Khabib's not better stand-up, though.

Speaker 1 Islam has really good stand-up. Like his stand-up, Khabib's stand-up was a means to an end.

Speaker 1 It was like his stand-up was to crack you so he'd get a hold of you and fuck you up, just drag you to the ground, smash you. That was Khabib's move.
But Islam is fucking KOing people, man.

Speaker 1 It's different. Yeah.
He's different. He's head-kicking Volkanovsky.
It's like a different level of stand-up. Yeah, Khabib said, you're going to be better than me.
Crazy. Crazy.

Speaker 1 Them Dagestani boys are here to stay. You know what's crazy, dude? Bilal Muhammad, you know, who was the champ at Welterweight, went down to Dagestan to train with those guys.

Speaker 1 And he was like, I thought I trained hard. I really did.
I thought I trained hard until I trained with those guys. I'm going to follow it.
If I ever have a son, I'm just dropping him.

Speaker 1 As soon as he hit puberty, I'm dropping him off in Dagestan.

Speaker 1 He says, leave him here, forget. That's the thing they always say.
Take him to Dagestan. Two, three years, forget.
Yeah, for real. For real.

Speaker 1 He comes back telling you what to do. How are you going to fuck with that? Because that's real.
That's how those dudes are really rolling out there. That's how they're really living.

Speaker 1 They pray five times a day. They're super religious.
There's no gambling. There's no drinking.
There's no partying. There's just training.
Just training.

Speaker 1 Just training and training with a bunch of fucking animals. Eating together, training together.
just getting after it every day.

Speaker 1 And then it's iron sharpens iron because everyone who comes out of there is a fucking killer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Crazy. Yeah, you got to be real.

Speaker 1 Most people don't want to live that life. Yeah, and they don't forgive the disrespect.
No.

Speaker 1 No. They just fucked Dylan Dannis up this past weekend.
Did you see that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was the fight in the crowd.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You won't forget. You got to watch what you say.
Bro, and they're, you know,

Speaker 1 the Agastanes, they're not talking shit for promotional purposes. No.
No. No, no, no.
You got to be real careful. No.
That's down in the marrow of the bones.

Speaker 1 Do you think that there would ever be, like, do you think Connor could ever apologize to Khabib and like bury the hatchet? Was it too?

Speaker 1 He would have to, it would have to be in private, and he would have to really mean it, man. You know?

Speaker 1 He would have to really mean it, and you'd have to convince Khabib that you really meant it.

Speaker 1 And that it was all, you know, because he just doesn't play that game, that talking shit to sell a fight game. He doesn't play that game.

Speaker 1 Especially when it comes to like his wife, his people. Oh, everything, man.
Everything. I saw a clip of DC

Speaker 1 saying like, he did, he had, like, Connor on his show one time, and Khabib was like, no, what's that about?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, that's my enemy. Right.
And you're my friend. Yeah.
Yeah. And, you know, DC was like, oh, yeah, I had to, I didn't look at it that way, but I had to check myself.
Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Cause you're, if you're a journalist, if you're, or if you're doing a podcast, you're going to have some people on that don't like people that are close to you.

Speaker 1 But you got to, like, that can only go to a certain level.

Speaker 1 You know, if someone is your, like, sworn enemy and this other guy's your training partner and your brother, brother, you can't really have that guy on. Oh, yeah, of course not.
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Like, there's no scenario where Khabib is going to be friendly with John Jones because he knows the history. Like, he might be respectful, but he ain't going to catch him kicking it.
Yeah. Nah.

Speaker 1 Well, I think John and DC have pretty much buried the hatchet. Really? Yeah.
I think they have. I think they communicated.

Speaker 1 I think they've had some interaction. You know, it's like

Speaker 1 when you have two bitter rivals like that and one guy comes out on top, it's just always going to be that way. Always forever.
Yeah, because they're different kind of people.

Speaker 1 I forget that sometimes. Like the competitive, the people that are like ultra competitive.
Totally different kinds of human beings, man. It doesn't go away.

Speaker 1 Their drive is, it's like, you don't understand it. You don't live it, you know?

Speaker 1 And like wrestlers, like elite wrestlers, are the only people that train the way like Khabib and his crew train.

Speaker 1 Like in any other combat sport, like if you're coming coming over from kickboxing and, you know, and then you want to fight MMA, and you know, you think, you, well, I've already trained like an animal already.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 yeah. There's a difference.
There's a difference in the kind of exhaustion that you get from like hardcore wrestling training. And that's something that these guys have.

Speaker 1 That it's like, that's why wrestling is the number one base for MMA. Because anybody who gets really good at wrestling, you got to be a fucking animal.
You got to be a fucking animal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wrestled in high school the first couple of years, and it was like, I was like, this ain't for me. You know,

Speaker 1 it was hard. It's hardcore, man.

Speaker 1 So hard.

Speaker 1 Because besides the technique and stuff, you have to be able to suffer. You're training to suffer.
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they break you all the way down every single practice. Training to suffer and then the losing weight.
The losing weight and competing on the same day. You know, I went to school with this kid.

Speaker 1 He was 5'6 ⁇ . All his brothers like 6'6'1.
It's because he wrestled all throughout his childhood and cut weight all through his childhood. He essentially starved himself and stunted his growth.

Speaker 1 Well, my friend Jeffrey,

Speaker 1 you know, Bernard used to work at the club. He used to perform at the club, but

Speaker 1 he was a wrestling guy, you know, did real well in California and all that. And now he like, he doesn't, he doesn't know when he's hungry.
Oh, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 You know, like he's, he just has to eat because he's like, oh, I haven't eaten. in, but

Speaker 1 his, whatever connection it is, like, he broke it. Yeah, like, he'll forget to eat.
That's crazy. Yeah.
It's like that, it could really fuck with you.

Speaker 1 So usually it fucks with guys the other way, where they cut weight too long and then they just blow up like balloons when they don't have to fight anymore.

Speaker 1 They get crazy and they just can't stop eating. They develop real eating disorders.
It's like, it's really common amongst guys who cut weight. Well, that's when I quit.
I quit. I did a tournament and

Speaker 1 it was the first tournament my brother was coming to see me. And

Speaker 1 I missed weight by a pound or something like that. And so I still got to wrestle, but it was like all the in the losers bracket or wrestled

Speaker 1 people off on the side. And there was a guy that he had on what I know now is an insulin pump, but I didn't know at the time.
Oh, you told me this.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he just kept fucking me up because I didn't, I was scared to hurt him and he didn't give a fuck about me.

Speaker 1 And I got my ass whooped and then and then when it was finally all over, I was like, oh, and I went to the vending machine and I fucking opened the snicker snicker bar.

Speaker 1 And my coach came over. He was like, what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 1 And I was like, when the tournament's over, he was like, you missed weight. You going to come over here and get eat snacks?

Speaker 1 And it was, and I was one of them kids where, like, I was just defiant. And I was like, fuck you.

Speaker 1 You know, and that was the last time. That was the last time he saw me.
I was like,

Speaker 1 you know, because if.

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If that's what this is going to be, I can't do it.

Speaker 1 No snacks after losing. Yeah, especially missing weight.
I mean, looking back, he had a point. How much did you miss it by? A pound.

Speaker 1 I missed it by because, you know, it's like, you can't, it's certain households where like,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 my mama didn't give a fuck about no making weight. You're going to eat that food.
You know, it wasn't like I didn't have control over my diet. Right.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 so then you would just have to run it off. Oh, yeah, run it off.
You ever figure out how much calories you actually like

Speaker 1 burn when you do a hard workout? It's not as much as you think.

Speaker 1 No, like this dude, I forget what he ate, but he had some crazy meal with like fucking pancakes, pizza, and all kinds of shit-like 10,000 calories or something like that.

Speaker 1 And then he went running to burn off the calories, and he tracked it like on an app. He ran for 10 hours, he ran like 30 miles

Speaker 1 because he was yeah dude was in really good shape but when he did this like he was tracking like where his his cow how many calories he had burned so far and it took him like a marathon like 30 hours of running

Speaker 1 to burn off a thousand calories 30 miles rather 30 miles of running no it was more than it was like 10 000 calories whatever it was you know i forget what he ate it was like pancakes and all kinds of crazy shit very calorie but the purpose was like to see what happens if you eat all this stuff.

Speaker 1 Like, what does it actually take to burn this off? So he measures all the calories and then he just goes out running. Yeah, it's kind of disappointing when you realize.
It takes a long time.

Speaker 1 It takes a long time to burn off 10,000 calories. Like, that's a lot of working out.
That's why I know I'm going to stay fat until I die.

Speaker 1 You know, because

Speaker 1 I've got this roll machine, and then it tries to tell you how many.

Speaker 1 It is more discouraging than anything. I have to turn that shit off.
Did you lose any weight when you did that carnivore diet for a month? Oh, yeah. How much did you lose? Um,

Speaker 1 I don't know, maybe like 10 pounds. Yeah, well, imagine if you did that for like six months.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Do you think you could? The diet is everything.
Yeah, that's the whole way to lose weight.

Speaker 1 You don't really lose weight in the gym. I mean, you do.
You lose a little weight. Your body gets toned, you get healthier.
That's all good. But the real way you lose weight is your diet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it's just discipline.

Speaker 1 It's hard. You know, it's hard.

Speaker 1 It was easier when I was poor. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know? Of course. Yeah.
Of course.

Speaker 1 Because I try to tell people this, but it's like

Speaker 1 when you're your own boss, you can't also be a shitty employee. Right.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 Like, I'm the one setting the rules, but I'm also the one enforcing the rules. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 you good. Yeah, that's funny.
Get it next time. Yeah, you almost have to create a boss in your brain for like certain things that you have to do.
Like a general just tells you what to do. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 You just fucking go do it. Yeah, gotta be a robot.
David Goggins could definitely sell an app, just a motivational app. He could, but just calls you a bitch every morning.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, really, all you need to do is just go watch his videos. If you want to get motivated, just go watch that guy's videos.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do people ever go to like just go stay with him? Yeah, he's done that before. David Eiler, is that who it was? No, what was his name?

Speaker 1 Who he stayed with? Yeah, the dude that wrote the book.

Speaker 1 Fuck. I can't believe I can't remember his name.
Like, he's on some like Diamond Dallas page shit where, like, he'll just.

Speaker 1 Well, he,

Speaker 1 not really.

Speaker 1 This dude was writing a book. Jesse Itzler? Yes.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 Stayed with him. And, you know, David's like, all right, we're going to train.
And, you know, you're going to do whatever the fuck I tell you to do. And we're going to do it.

Speaker 1 I forget how many days he did it for.

Speaker 1 He wrote a book about it, right? Like, living with a Navy SEAL.

Speaker 1 I think he did it for like 30 days.

Speaker 1 You probably got to pass a physical.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, you could die. You could definitely die.
You could definitely have a heart attack. But see, that's the thing.
He don't care if he die. Right.

Speaker 1 But he had something happen, some kind of heart thing. Rhabdomyelosis.
He had rhabdomyelosis. He's had a bunch of things.

Speaker 1 He's had heart surgery, but he had rhabdomyelosis that he got because rhabdos, when you push yourself so hard.

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Speaker 1 What is perplexity? We got an AI sponsor. No bullshit.
Perplexity. Yeah.
Was it like a doctor? No, it's an AI. It's an AI large language model, and it gives you answers.

Speaker 1 So process is when muscle tissue damaged by trauma, excessive exercise, prolonged immobility, metabolic or genetic disorders, infections, toxins, or certain medications.

Speaker 1 So obviously, in David Goggins' case, excessive exercise. So the muscle cell breaks down.
Substances like myoglobin,

Speaker 1 creatine, kinase, electrolytes, and enzymes leak into the blood. Myoglobin filtered by the kidneys can cause urine to turn dark brown or red and in large amounts can cause acute kidney failure.

Speaker 1 So when your piss starts looking like Diet Coke, that's when you know you got a problem. I think you just gave Hollywood the worst idea.
No.

Speaker 1 Instead of people coughing into a napkin so you know they're sick, they're going to be thinking a piss is going to turn like syrup.

Speaker 1 Well, it's only if someone works out so hard that your body's breaking down. That's really what it is.
Like, you're literally working yourself to death. Yeah.
But then

Speaker 1 this crazy motherfucker finished the race. He went to the hospital.
He went to the hospital, recovered in the hospital, went back to the exact spot where he stopped and completed the race.

Speaker 1 And then did like 100 push-ups at this finish line.

Speaker 1 He's like, you just went to the hospital for doing extra.

Speaker 1 You just can't, you know, you just have to accept that's who he is. Yeah.
That's who he is. He's got no knee cartilage.
He still runs.

Speaker 1 He's just a different, he's a different human. But again, it's like the Dagestan thing.
Like, there's levels to discipline and commitment.

Speaker 1 And those guys have, it's a very high, it's also like very high-level training, too. It's not just discipline.
It's like they're very technical.

Speaker 1 Abdul Manab, who is Khabib's dad, was a phenomenal trainer.

Speaker 1 Just phenomenal. But where did he learn all of that shit? Well, it's all Rush and Sambo, and they all have, like, a long history of, like, I think his dad,

Speaker 1 let's Google this just to make sure I'm not speaking out of my ass.

Speaker 1 But, you know, you got to think of like Sambo, like combat sambo is, that's where Federal and Million Enko came from, too.

Speaker 1 So Russian Sambo is like MMA, but they wear like a judo gi top and they have shorts on and wrestling shoes, MMA gloves, and fucking headgear. And they have combat sambo championships.

Speaker 1 They throw each other using the gi they have ground and pound. They're kicking and punching.
It's a crazy sport. So it's like a judo mixed with...
It's like judo mixed with MMA.

Speaker 1 But they're wearing wrestling shoes. Like it is really kind of crazy.
But there's no ground impound? There's ground impound. Yeah, it's basically kind of MMA.
So Abdulmanov,

Speaker 1 he was named by the Russian Book of Records as the most successful combat sambo coach in the country.

Speaker 1 So he was the head coach of Eagles MMA, MMA, coached two UFC champions, his son Khabib Nermogomedov, as well as Islam Makachev.

Speaker 1 But so he practiced from a young age while serving in the

Speaker 1 Soviet army, began to practice judo and sambo. First big success as a coach came with his brother.

Speaker 1 Nermogomed Nermogomedov won at the World Sambo Championship for Ukraine's national team in 92. He trained a total of 18 world champions through his coaching career.
That's how good that guy was.

Speaker 1 18 world champions. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Show him a video of Combat Sambo.

Speaker 1 How about show Fedor competing in Combat Sambo? It's kind of crazy when you see him because he was competing in Combat Sambo, I believe, while he was also fighting in MMA. He was still competing

Speaker 1 for Russia in Combat Sambo. Do you think there's a difference between Combat Sambo and some other kind? Yeah, well, there's Sambo, which is like just the grappling art of Sambo.

Speaker 1 But like, look at this. They're fighting with punches, with the grappling key on, and shoes on.
This is crazy, right? Oh, wow. Isn't that nuts?

Speaker 1 They got wrestling shoes on, shin pads. Oh, no knees.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They can't throw knees here. Is that what's going on?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know what the rules are.
Because I feel like if they could, he would have thrown them right there. Pretty crazy, man.
So that's Fedor when he was world champion in MMA.

Speaker 1 Maybe the greatest of all time. He's definitely in the argument of the greatest of all time.
Fedor? Yeah, it's the argument: him, Cain Velasquez, for heavyweight,

Speaker 1 Francis and Ganu,

Speaker 1 and John Jones now

Speaker 1 that he's a heavyweight, but he hasn't really, the only heavyweights that he really beat, he beat Stipe

Speaker 1 when Stipe was kind of at the end of his career, and he beat Gone, but he caught Gon in a guillotine real early.

Speaker 1 Clearly, one of the greatest fighters of all time. But the argument of him being the greatest heavyweight, he's only got two heavyweight fights.

Speaker 1 Then the other guy

Speaker 1 is Fabricio Verdum. Fabricio Verdum,

Speaker 1 on paper, has one of the best arguments because he tapped everybody. He tapped all the world champions.
Fabricio Verder. And people forget, man, because they only look at a guy when the guy's lost.

Speaker 1 Like MMA fans, once someone loses and they start, they have a few losses in a row, people forget how good they were when they were in their prime.

Speaker 1 And Fabrizio Verdum in his prime tapped Fedora Emilianenko, Kane Velasquez, and Minotaro Noguera.

Speaker 1 Which is crazy. What are you saying? There's a window, right? Was it nine years? It's about nine years.
When fighters can put it.

Speaker 1 That heavyweight window.

Speaker 1 Shortened real fast. It gets shortened.

Speaker 1 What's the most defenses in the heavyweight?

Speaker 1 It's steep.

Speaker 1 Stipe has shown it. Two or three, right?

Speaker 1 Let's find out. It's just three.
Stipe Miocic is the... He's the consensus most successful heavyweight of all time.
You could say maybe he's the greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 You know, it's all when you catch him. I mean, the guy got through Francis in that first fight when Francis was just like taking people's heads off.
Like they were attached with sticky glue.

Speaker 1 With three, yeah, three. Three.
You would think it would be more than three, right? Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Because, like, because, because every, all the other weight classes, like, uh, uh, what's light, heavyweight? It's like four. Well, he's got four.
Hold on. Scroll back up.

Speaker 1 Oh, this thing was three in a row. Yeah, three in a row.
But he's got the most title defenses. Scroll back up, please.
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Speaker 1 Happy Dad Hard Seltzer Tea and Lemonade is a malt alcohol located in orange county california so he's got the most title defenses in the division's history with four oh right because he took the belt back from the deck from cormier right and then defended against cormier and then defended against uh francis which was the craziest one and then lost it to francis no lost no defended against francis oh no no no i fucked this up defended against francis then got knocked out by cormier Cormier knocked him out after the Francis fight.

Speaker 1 No, you're absolutely right. Then they fought a second time, and Steve beat him, stopped him.
That was the time when he was hooking him to the body. Body shots, yeah.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 He had that beautiful left hook to the body that he just had wired. So he beat Daniel, beat Daniel again.
He beat him by decision in the third fight. And then in the next one, he fought.
Scroll up.

Speaker 1 In the next one, he fought Francis again and got KO'd. That was a brutal one.
And then John Jones hit him with that brutal, beautiful spitting back kick to the body.

Speaker 1 But it's like he's in the argument too, for one of the greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 My thing about Fabricio, though, is like people forget how hard it is to submit a guy like Fedora Millionenko or a guy like Keene Velasquez and to be the guy that submits all, like out of the guys who you consider possibly all-time greats, he submitted three of them.

Speaker 1 That's nuts. When Velasquez first came on the scene, I thought nobody was going to be able to beat him.
Bro, he was a monster because he was a heavyweight with cardio like a lightweight. It was nuts.

Speaker 1 Nothing like that. Yeah, but everybody has their day, man.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's nobody that's unbeatable.

Speaker 1 Well, what happened with Kane is he didn't adjust to Mexico City. So they had a fight.
Kane and Fabricio fought in Mexico City. And Mexico City, I think, is like 7,000 feet above sea level.
What?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Put that in there. Let's see what Plex City says about that.
I'm pretty sure that's the case, though. I think it's about 7,000 feet above sea level.
And it's real thin air.

Speaker 1 Also, it's a lot of pollution. So it's not like the best air.
Like, it's not much air, and it's polluted. And Fabrizio

Speaker 1 got there way early, like months in advance.

Speaker 1 7,350 feet

Speaker 1 above sea level. So real, real high altitude already.
So your cardio is already going to be taxed if you're a heavyweight. Yeah, that's crazy.
That's 2,000 feet above Denver. But why didn't he go?

Speaker 1 Did he have a good reason? I think there was some domestic issues. Oh, man.
I think someone didn't want him leaving. You know, and

Speaker 1 he got he only got a chance to be out there, I think, for two weeks. And that's not enough time.
That's not even close. Not even close.
Fabricio was up there, I think, for six months.

Speaker 1 I think they told him that he was going to be fighting for the title. And I think he went up there for I might be talking out of school, but it was many months.
It was at least four months.

Speaker 1 And he was up in the mountains above Mexico City. So he's like, fuck it, let's go 9,000 feet.
Let's get crazy. And so got accustomed to even higher altitude.

Speaker 1 And then when he came down, he was in prime shape. And he caught Kane in a guillotine and submitted him.
It was nuts.

Speaker 1 It was like seeing him, he's, like I said, he submitted three of the greatest of all time. Like that, that alone, you got to think.

Speaker 1 So he showed up two months early.

Speaker 1 Verdum did his homework prior to the fight, showed up two months early and established a training camp in the mountains, conditioning his body to even higher elevation around 12,000 feet.

Speaker 1 So I was wrong on both counts. It wasn't four months, it was two months, and he was at 12,000 feet, which is fucking crazy.
Yeah, that's,

Speaker 1 yeah. He said for the first two weeks I was here, it felt as if I'd never trained before at all.
I was so tired. So if you got used to doing that, okay, so, okay, Kane only went 10 days early.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. I feel like that's some shit that George St.
Pierre would do just for every fight.

Speaker 1 Right. Get in the oxygen deprivation tank or something.
Well, BJ was doing that for a while. BJ Penn was sleeping in a tent.

Speaker 1 See, it was a plastic tent that he would seal off and he would sleep inside of it. Like you put it up around his bed, and there was a thing that

Speaker 1 sucked oxygen out of the air there and it made it like you were sleeping at high elevation. Apparently, that's the move.
The move is sleep at high elevation, but train at low elevation.

Speaker 1 And the reason for that is when you train at low elevation, you have more oxygen, you can get more reps, you can put in more rounds, you can put in more work.

Speaker 1 So, and then the recovery is where you really want your body to be adapting. So, then once you're done training, go back up.

Speaker 1 Like, say if you were training in like in like in the valley and then you went up to Big Bear and you were sleeping at Big Bear, which is like, I think Big Bear is like 6,000 feet or something like that.

Speaker 1 But doesn't that only work if you're if the fight is at

Speaker 1 elevation? Like if you're fighting.

Speaker 1 No, the idea is sleeping at altitude is all you need. Sleeping at altitude gets your body.

Speaker 1 The whole thing is about getting your body to sort of adapt to this new altitude. So if you just sleep at altitude, you can fight at altitude.
Exactly. Oh, okay.
Exactly. You'll have more oxygen.

Speaker 1 You'll have more. And you'll be able to work harder.

Speaker 1 So it's like they used to think training and sleeping at altitude is the move. But now they think actually it's probably better.
And maybe this is debated. I'm not sure if

Speaker 1 there's a consensus is out, but I think what they're saying now is train at sea level and then sleep at altitude, which makes sense. It makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's for people that's already training. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 Definitely.

Speaker 1 I run out of breath just going up to altitude.

Speaker 1 That's why Denver, whenever you go to Denver, like I love doing comedy there, but it's so dry. It's dry.

Speaker 1 It's so dry, your boogers get sharp yep yeah your nose starts to bleed yeah your skin is all flaky and there's no air

Speaker 1 and then you know you can get higher than that too you can go to aspen when they used to have the aspen comedy festival they used to have uh oxygen waiting for you backstage word yeah case dudes started fainting why'd they stop that I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think, you know, they stopped a bunch of those comedy festivals. They had, where was the original? One was in Montreal.
And then they started doing it in Aspen.

Speaker 1 And I think they did it in Vegas, too for a while if I remember correctly it was the same people but it's used to see those things used to be effective it used to be you would you know take time off the road go to Montreal do your best set and maybe you'd get a development deal and if you got a development deal maybe you get a sitcom that was a whole that was the carrot that they dangled the end of the stick career changing yeah like for some people it was career changing it really was um but That stopped and then so it was like why are we going to these festivals?

Speaker 1 Because I'm not getting anything anything out of this other than you selling tickets. Well, I think that, I think that's happened.
That happened.

Speaker 1 What happened to most of the institutions in comedy or just show business period is the people that used to be the tastemakers, the people that used to tell the business who was next. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think people get, because this happens all the time.

Speaker 1 There'll be some good, there'll be some, somebody will start a comedy show, then all of a sudden somebody will make it from that show, and then it becomes the show in the scene or in the city.

Speaker 1 And then they start start wanting to maintain that reputation. So instead of them just fucking with who they believe in, they'll wait to see who has a little momentum.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So they kind of give it up. They wait for the industry to tell them who's popping.
Right. And yeah, it happened to the store.
It happened to JFL. It happened to all these places.
And

Speaker 1 maybe it's coming back now. But you also have to realize who are these people.

Speaker 1 They're just people that got jobs working for whatever media company that is, whether it's NBC or Netflix or whatever it is. They're just people that got jobs.

Speaker 1 They might not have any idea like how a joke is made, what the process is of developing material, who's got talent, who's derivative.

Speaker 1 They might not have any idea. But what they do is they lick their fucking finger and they hold it up and whichever way the wind's blowing, they pretend they're a genius.
And that's what they do.

Speaker 1 And oftentimes they'll dismiss someone who turns out to be the best one of the lot. It's real common, man.

Speaker 1 And then they always want to stand by those ideas like ah i don't see it and like okay the guy's selling out arenas i think you missed it and but it happens a lot yeah it happens a lot with these folks because they they're they're not artists they're just business people and they're pretending to be artists it's weird like some of them give you advice but some people do have like there's a there's a

Speaker 1 there's a talent

Speaker 1 for dealing with talent that some people do have. Adam Egett.
Right. Adam Egot is a perfect example because Adam is an artist whose

Speaker 1 job is to be a talent coordinator. But he's genuinely an artist.

Speaker 1 He gets it.

Speaker 1 He thinks like a comic. He behaves like a comic.
He was a funny co-host of Norm McDonald's show. You know, when Norm had that show, Adam was on that show with him.

Speaker 1 Like, he gets it. He understands the business.

Speaker 1 He'll hit you with a zingo from time to time. It's a funny dude.
Yeah, he got a couple in the chamber. He's a funny dude, but he's also a smart dude.

Speaker 1 And he knows potential.

Speaker 1 He sees someone and he can give them genuinely good advice like genuinely like you could take this and develop it this way maybe you need to work on this maybe you need to you know but you know more importantly i think he has he has the courage of his convictions where it's like

Speaker 1 like when i when i first got to hollywood you know i went over you know i went everywhere at least once or twice and you know people some people you know people like come back next week or you know you got to wait till this time or whatever everyone saw me saw me at least once adam saw me he was the only person that was like come back next week like come on you get it you get a spot next week right because he gets it yeah yeah and like he started he started fucking with me immediately and it wasn't any hesitation at all it was like from the time I met him I was just getting spots at the store yeah yeah and so to to to do that to have that belief in your in your eye you know instead of needing other people's because because how most of Show business works is everybody's just, no one wants to be the first one on your dick, but no one wants to be the last one.

Speaker 1 So So even if they see something they think is dope, they'll be like, does anybody else think it's dope? Right. No, okay, neither.
Right.

Speaker 1 You know, but then as soon as a couple of people think it's dope, then it was like, I all, I saw it six months ago. It's like, you know, it's that kind of shit.
So.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's where they're pretending they have talent. Yes.
They're talent. But the problem is you don't have to have the talent talent to be in a position of that, to be in a position.

Speaker 1 No, you don't. You can just get a job and they need someone to do it.

Speaker 1 And if you sell yourself and if you worked, you know, in production before or you did something as an agent or whatever the fuck it is, you're in the business.

Speaker 1 Suffer under some tyrant.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of that. A lot of suffering under tyrants.
And then these guys, they wind up, you know, fucking ruining companies because

Speaker 1 they don't know what. Like, how many terrible specials have you seen that just fit the right demographic? Fit this like silly thing.

Speaker 1 Like, that was another problem that Adam was having at the store is that, like, he couldn't just give spots to the people that he thought was funny.

Speaker 1 It's there was pressure to make a certain amount of gay people on the set, a certain amount of women, a certain amount of, they had, like, people telling him he didn't have enough of certain demographics.

Speaker 1 But where's the pressure coming from? Oh, I don't know. It was coming from,

Speaker 1 you know, I don't want to talk out of school. Okay.
But it wasn't just

Speaker 1 comics. There was, you know, people that were buying into it.
And that's nonsense.

Speaker 1 My mind immediately went to something silly. Like, he just, he just wakes up, there's a dildo on his pillow

Speaker 1 with a note. Just like, no, he was, you've been warned.
He was being told. He was being told.
And it's just like, you know, there's a lot of vicious people in this fucking business.

Speaker 1 And if you're a guy and your job is working at a club and that's all you got.

Speaker 1 And, you know, all of a sudden that job is threatened because people are complaining about you and they think that you're not doing Your best to make the lineup more diverse, which is like it's so silly because this is the thing that we always talk about in the green room.

Speaker 1 Like, look how diverse that club is. There's everybody there, like, all kinds of different kinds of people.
And the idea that, like, it's one thing.

Speaker 1 This is the most dumb straw man that gets tossed around. Like, it's all a right-wing comedy club.
The vast majority of the people that work there are left-wing people. Vast majority.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 It's a fact. Yeah.
And you can't, like, you can't tie it down. You know, it's all white males.
That's bullshit. There's all kinds of people there.
There's Arabs and Muslim people.

Speaker 1 There's people from India. There's people from Asia.
There's black people, white people, Australians. There's people from fucking everywhere at that club.
And just there's one thing in common only.

Speaker 1 Do you love comedy? Are you trying to get better? Are you funny? There is something to be said about being aware of your blind spots, but I don't think that

Speaker 1 the way that hollywood always does diversity is wrong because they'll go instead of going and find they'll go we're missing this slice of the pie instead of going and finding the funniest people

Speaker 1 they'll just pick anyone you know

Speaker 1 and i don't i don't know if that always

Speaker 1 this is almost never the best way to it's never the best way it's like the same thing for neurosurgeons if you're like you know i'm really looking for a danish woman neurosurgeon like no no no you got you you have a brain tumor like no no no i want to really want a Danish woman.

Speaker 1 Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You got to get the best guy.
The best guy is a Chinese guy. We found him.
He was out of Harvard. This guy.
No, no, no. Like, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 And that's the same thing with everything. It's like, it should be a meritocracy.

Speaker 1 And I think ultimately, you're going to have examples of all sorts of different kinds of people that rise to the top in a true meritocracy. I mean, but the.

Speaker 1 Well, the pendulum always swings both back and forth, but it's almost never a meritocracy.

Speaker 1 In comedy? Or just I'm just talking about comedy. It's not an American.
Comedy is one of the only things where it's a genuine meritocracy. Oh, yeah.
Well, when it comes to the crowd,

Speaker 1 you can't cheat. You can't cheat.
No.

Speaker 1 It is what it is. Unless you're stealing.
That's the only thing. If someone's a joke thief.

Speaker 1 Or unless you're a fucking hack,

Speaker 1 you can get away with a lot. But you can't get away with a lot with your peers, right? You can't, like, your peers won't like you.
They won't want to be around.

Speaker 1 They won't want to go on the road with you with your whack-ass jokes. No.
No.

Speaker 1 Unless you're super famous.

Speaker 1 People are just holding their nose and go on the road with you. There's a few.
That's true. There's a few that will do that.
But ultimately, though,

Speaker 1 when it comes to sustaining a career and having

Speaker 1 years and years of people coming out to see you and multiple specials and stuff like that,

Speaker 1 it either works or it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 That's it. It's real simple.
Once people find out about you, now you've got your foot in the door, and it's all just about keeping it on the gas.

Speaker 1 keep your foot on the gas and keep producing keep making stuff keep keep writing keep working on sets and you'll you know if you're working for those people they'll keep showing up for you because you made them laugh I hope that stays true because that's it's the only thing I'm good at you know I'm bad at everything except writing except my my comedy you know well you're really good at your comedy though some people never get really good at anything but they but I feel like every year

Speaker 1 you kind of you have to be good at something else. No.
Editing, sketches, scripts. They want you to act.
They want you to. No, you don't.
You don't. You don't.
Look at David Hell. He does one thing.

Speaker 1 Does one thing. Stand-up comedy.
Everybody loves him. He's amazing.
Yeah, fact. Does one thing.
That's it.

Speaker 1 I mean, that dude doesn't even go on social media at all, which is the only reason why he's not selling out enormous arenas.

Speaker 1 When we had him at the club last weekend, everybody's like, dude, he's the best. He might be, he's one of the best of all time.
And he's working clubs. I mean,

Speaker 1 a lot of people put him at the very top. He's up there, dude.
It's like, it's kind of silly to rank comedians. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 And every comic that's alive today owes a debt of gratitude to the people that came before us. We all do, because it's a relatively new art form.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 I go by joke, by joke, by joke. I don't really have a favorite comedian, but there's some bits out there where I'm like, that's fucking.
And some of those come from,

Speaker 1 you know, a few of them come from the same people but but it tells one of those people where you just sometimes you just watch tis the season to cozy up with all your favorite holiday movies and shows you coming where to the North Pole of course like a very Jonas Christmas movie and home alone on Disney Plus

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Yeah. You know, beautiful.

Speaker 1 But I love that. I love getting to watch a comic to make you go, God damn, I need to just ball my shit up and fucking throw it away.
Yeah, that's the best feeling.

Speaker 1 That's where the fire starts burning and gets you going. You need to feel that.
That's why comics don't exist in a vacuum. You know, we were talking about this the other day that

Speaker 1 we were talking about like McCann. So McCann is in this thing where he might have to move.
And we're like, bro, you got to stay. Like you're killing it and what you're getting funnier.

Speaker 1 You're like funnier all the time. And I think one of the reasons why is what you're around.
Comics don't exist in a vacuum.

Speaker 1 You're not going to go to like South Dakota and find the best comic that no one's ever seen. The best comic in the world lives in South Dakota by himself.

Speaker 1 And he's, you know, he works at this little local comedy club and everybody comes to see him from miles around. No.

Speaker 1 The best comics are around other killers. You get to see a guy like David Tell go up and you're like, God damn.
You get to see Shane Gillis go up. You You go, God damn.
You get to see Joey Diaz.

Speaker 1 You get to see all these fucking killers over and over and over again. And when you're around that, you see Ron White every week.

Speaker 1 Like, that's how you get better. Like, that's where it's all.
McCann brings the heat. He brings the heat, dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's fucking talented and he's smart and he's a great guy.

Speaker 1 And he's fucking just a curious, interesting thinker. And

Speaker 1 he's got a zany

Speaker 1 delivery. Yeah.
Like, whenever I follow McCann, he always brings me me up like he auctioned enslaves. He'll be like,

Speaker 1 Bran!

Speaker 1 Sip fit. You know, he says my name like Leonardo DiCaprio and Django.
Ah.

Speaker 1 Bran.

Speaker 1 Watch,

Speaker 1 we're going to get that on tape somewhere. Yeah, we'll get that tonight.

Speaker 1 I'll bring him in tonight.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Is he coming in then?

Speaker 1 I think so. I think so.
I got to text him as soon as we get out of here. Oh, speaking of the comedy, my Don't Tell came out this week.
Go check it out. It's already out.
Oh, it was out this week?

Speaker 1 It was out but it's it's it's going it's taking off. Nice.
Beautiful. Yeah, it's like a couple of the clips, a couple million.
Beautiful. Yeah.
Go check it out. It's on YouTube.
Don't tell comedy.

Speaker 1 That whop jokes, one of my all-time favorite jokes. Oh, yeah.
That's on my

Speaker 1 YouTube.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So yeah, it's a...
Yeah, we got a lot of stuff online, man.

Speaker 1 Some people are like, I've just now discovered review. I'm like, really? That's how it works, man.
Yeah. There's so much shit out there.
That's the thing, man.

Speaker 1 A million people can watch your shit and nobody saw it. And then that's.
Yeah. That's how many people there are that are on the street.

Speaker 1 There's people that are huge fans of yours that don't even know you do stand-up. It's crazy.
You know what I mean? How's that possible? Well, there's just too many things to pay attention to.

Speaker 1 Like, how many times have you heard about an actor? Like, my kids will tell me about someone, and I'm like, who is that? And they're like, oh, my God, that person's huge. I'm like, shut up, really?

Speaker 1 And then I go to their Instagram page. They have 30 million Instagram followers.
I'm like, how?

Speaker 1 Am I that old? It happens to me all the time. I've officially reached unknows.
Yeah, I'm Unc status for sure. I'm like Grandpa status.
Grandpa Joe, Grandpa Joe doesn't know anything.

Speaker 1 Because I'm not looking. The thing is, I'm not at the point, like, I'm not looking for new stuff.
So if the kids don't tell me. Yeah, I'm not looking either.
But then that makes me feel old.

Speaker 1 You know, yeah,

Speaker 1 it'll be somebody that's like world famous. And I'm like, who the fuck is that? I know.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I completely missed the

Speaker 1 baby shark thing. I just started hearing people talk about it in jokes.

Speaker 1 Baby shark? Yeah, apparently it's like the number one YouTube. It's the most streamed YouTube video, right, Jamie?

Speaker 1 I mean, it wasn't a couple years ago, guys. But it's still number one, though, right? What the fuck? I literally missed it.
Baby shark, doot, doot, do, doot. Oh, baby shark, doot, doot, do, do.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I literally hadn't heard that song. It had been out for maybe a year and a half, and I hadn't heard anything about it.
I just heard a comic making jokes about it.

Speaker 1 And usually when something's in the pop culture, everyone will be trying to have their own thing on it. And I heard another comic say a joke about it.
I'm like, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 1 And sure enough, it's like, I completely missed it. How could I? I mean, I don't have kids.
That makes sense. That's what it is.
Okay, this is it. That video?

Speaker 1 That's a big video? I've never seen that video. The world's most watched YouTube video hasn't made its creator rich.
What?

Speaker 1 How come? Hold on.

Speaker 1 A company behind Ubiquitous Song is hampered by ad restrictions on children's content, wants to raise funds for expansion. What does that mean? Raise funds.
You had one viral video.

Speaker 1 You ain't a company. 16.4 billion views.

Speaker 1 That's it. And they can't make money? This is roughly equivalent to Taylor Swift's 10 most popular YouTube videos combined.
Whoa.

Speaker 1 Yeah, last year the company generated an equivalent of about $67 million in revenue, including earnings from YouTube. But wait a minute.
That's a lot. That's a lot.

Speaker 1 So it seems like they are making money. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 Is it saying the quandary underscores how certain restrictions

Speaker 1 scroll up a little bit? I think we must have missed something.

Speaker 1 But why is it it doesn't make any sense that the company hasn't made any money? It's saying they made money.

Speaker 1 Am I reading that wrong?

Speaker 1 Revenue isn't the same as making money, though.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Revenue is just money coming in. They could have

Speaker 1 their expenses are so high? They could have spent a lot on ads to get it out there. That's what it could be going into saying.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 No, but I'm guessing 16 billion views probably should make you more than that. Is that what they're trying to say?

Speaker 1 So revenue is your gross. Oh, your gross gross.
No, that's how much money they made total, including what they got from YouTube. That's not just from YouTube.
Oh, so they make money from other stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they probably probably licensed it out and stuff like that. So scroll up.
So you see the little graph there. It says life.
I mean, scroll down. Sorry.
So operating profit revenue.

Speaker 1 So they're making a lot more money.

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah, but that's South Korean won.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just know what I mean.
Yeah, falling down the wrong hole.

Speaker 1 No, Joe's like, bring back the AI. Yeah, I don't know what that is.
Like, like that baby shark thing. Like, why would one thing catch like that?

Speaker 1 Because it's something for kids, and people love ignoring their kids. You just play that, put that shit on, and kids are obsessed.

Speaker 1 It can't just be that, because there's so many things that kids can watch. It can't be just that.
It's got to be.

Speaker 1 Remember that banana song? Banana Phone? Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, banana phone. No.

Speaker 1 I never heard that before. It was like in the 2000s.
It became like really popular. I think it was popular on Opie and Anthony.
They kept playing it. It was like really catchy, totally innocent.

Speaker 1 And then it was like everywhere for like three or four weeks and then it went away and i always wonder like what what the fuck is it where something just catches fire i don't know remember when tickle me elmo

Speaker 1 because what was the last time we had a viral holiday toy like where was the toy everyone had to have

Speaker 1 the it's not holidays but those laboo boos were pretty viral

Speaker 1 yeah people love the laboo boos and i don't get it why though are they are they collectors is this like because they know ai is about to take over the world and then they know the aliens are landing and jesus christ is coming back and they just are freaking out.

Speaker 1 They're just buying stuffed animals. They don't know what the fuck they're doing, they're just following the lead.

Speaker 1 A labooboo is just a stuffed animal. I don't know.
I hear about them, my brain shuts off.

Speaker 1 There's a little bit of gambling involved. And it's a mystery.
You don't know what's inside the box that you bought, and then people can sell those boxes based off of what could be inside.

Speaker 1 Is it a stuffed animal? Yeah.

Speaker 1 A stuffed animal, then you got to gut your stuffed animal to find out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's in a box that's in a package, and then you don't know what's inside the box.

Speaker 1 You just buy a laboo boo without knowing which one you're going to get. Right, right, right, right.
And you might get a limited edition one inside. It's like a real-life loot box.
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 A limited edition. Yeah, it's like genie babies without knowing what you got before, and you might get the Princess Die one.
That's brilliant. You could get a limited edition Laboo Boo.

Speaker 1 That's brilliant.

Speaker 1 And other than that?

Speaker 1 How much is the buy mystery laboo boo box? It could be 20 bucks. It could be 50.
Let's take a guess. Let's take a guess.
How much do you think it costs to get a laboo boo? Retail.

Speaker 1 Retail. I'm going to say 40 bucks.
40 bucks. Yeah, I think I'm with you.
I was going to say 36.

Speaker 1 And after that, how much do you think it is a resale? That's a

Speaker 1 cost to get them, yeah. I bet it's like buying one of them, like a hot new car.
So retail is $28,000, $27.99. Okay.
Okay. $30.
And then what does it cost online if you want to buy one right now?

Speaker 1 I need a laboo-boo. Like a mystery.

Speaker 1 A mystery labo boo. What do I get? Are you Googling it? Yeah, yeah, it's going to

Speaker 1 turn off my ring. Up to $80,000 to $120.
It's not that bad. Oh, well, a few human-sized auction pieces.
Oh, that's big.

Speaker 1 $100,000. Wait a minute.
They have human-sized labuboos? I didn't know that. That's Jesus Christ.
What? That is so cr ridiculous.

Speaker 1 What is someone doing with a human-sized laboo? Who's fucking their laboo-oo? Because you know someone is. Let me see what the labo-boos look like.
Is this something like a furry would fuck?

Speaker 1 Let me try to Google this human-sized labooboo. Human-sized.
Oh, do you hear the latest that that dude who shot Trump might have been a furry? Yeah, so they found some more stuff. What? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They think he was a furry. That's like an art piece.
It's not really quite a furry. Oh.

Speaker 1 Well, that's not really human-sized either.

Speaker 1 Human-sized laboo-uoo doll sold for $150,000. Let me see what it looks like.
But what they mean might have been a furry. I feel like you would know or not know that.

Speaker 1 They're finding stuff. Like, let's find out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 There it is. There's the big luboo boo.
Whatever. This lady invented them? She invented the laboo boo?

Speaker 1 How?

Speaker 1 Again, how? How does that work? How's that catch on? How's that catch on? Like, Build-A-Bear has been in the fucking mall forever. I mean, I think I know what it is.

Speaker 1 It's probably some fucking hot, smoking-hot K-pop star.

Speaker 1 Probably, they saw her with one on. You know, there's certain women where they follow, and anytime she does any fashion thing,

Speaker 1 it just spreads like wildfire. Yeah, there's a thing that does happen whenever a popular person starts wearing a thing.
Yeah, they literally tricked all women into wearing

Speaker 1 wanting a diamond. Well, you remember when

Speaker 1 the actress to do it. Judas Priest

Speaker 1 had everybody dressing up like a gay motorcycle gang member. What? Yeah.
That started with Judas Priest? Yeah. Rob Halford from Judas Priest is gay.
Like, openly gay.

Speaker 1 And now, at least, you know, I don't know if he was back then, but he dressed like a gay biker. Like, and that became like metal.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 word. Because Judas Priest was so good, they wanted to dress like this gay guy who dressed like a gay guy who'd go to like a gay biker club.
Yeah, it almost like hot women around the world.

Speaker 1 Because dudes will do, dudes will do anything that

Speaker 1 they think will get them laid. And women will do anything that a pretty woman does.
That's true. Anything to make yourself look prettier too.
Yeah, and so it's like,

Speaker 1 because all of the dudes now talking all that gay shit, they was dressing like that in the 70s and the 80s, like earrings and makeup and purses and all of that.

Speaker 1 Bell bottoms, big collars. Yeah, because they thought it was going to get them laid.
Flouncing. You could shirt.
You could dress like Prince. You could dress like

Speaker 1 Lil Richard.

Speaker 1 That's right. Yeah.
Yeah. Anything that works.
Platform shoes. Anything that works.
Anything. Okay.
Thomas Crooks used they, them pronouns, had obsession with political violence and muscle mommies.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh, that's what I like. Yeah, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 I like a woman that can move a couch.

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 1 The lone sniper who grazed Trump in the ear, killed a beloved firefighter, critically wounded two other Trump supporters, apparently had a muscle mommy fetish and repeatedly searched for videos about female bodybuilders and muscular women.

Speaker 1 But what was the furry stuff, though? I was reading some furry stuff.

Speaker 1 Crooks had two accounts on, two possible accounts on DeviantArt, a site that hosts fan art has become notorious for its community of furries. People who identify as anthropomorphized animal characters

Speaker 1 and or are sexually attracted to them. Did I ever tell you about the time that I accidentally stumbled on a furry convention? No.

Speaker 1 We were flying into Pittsburgh for a UFC. One of DeviantArt accounts linked to Crooks shared just one post reposting of a towering, muscular female bodybuilder and a slight man in his underwear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm all over. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's like our crumb type stuff.

Speaker 1 Hilarious. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't kink shame.

Speaker 1 I don't kink shame either. No.
Have fun.

Speaker 1 me and Duncan wore furry outfits once and for the pod yeah and we had to take the hats off after like five minutes like respect to furries he could walk around all day with this fucking thing on it was heavy it was hard to breathe it was hot we took it oh yeah that's what he likes yeah baby who doesn't like that

Speaker 1 I don't know some little dudes

Speaker 1 some little dudes don't want to be dominated don't want some man

Speaker 1 some woman to use them like a dildo um

Speaker 1 when I was uh so I was flying into Pittsburgh. We were flying in for a UFC, and we got a rental, and we're driving to the hotel.

Speaker 1 And as we're driving to the hotel, I'm like, why are all these mascots on the street? The fuck's going on? It was real weird. Like, we didn't understand what was going on.

Speaker 1 This is a while ago, like, at least 10 years ago. And we're driving, and I'm like, what the fuck is this? Like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 We get to the hotel and I'm like, and I go to the guy behind the counter, I go, man, what the fuck is going on? He goes, it's a furry convention.

Speaker 1 Like, I didn't even, even, I kind of vaguely knew what a furry was, but I never really

Speaker 1 dove into it, you know? So I go, what, what are you talking about? He goes, it's a convention of all these people that get off on dressing like animals. I go, get off.

Speaker 1 He goes, dude, they're asking us to serve them food in bowls on the ground, okay? When they get room service, they want their room service in a bowl.

Speaker 1 They want it put on the ground so they can get on their knees and eat it out of a bowl. And they were asking for a litter box.

Speaker 1 I know a lot of people don't believe this, like, because I told this story about a friend of mine who lives in Utah. His wife was a school teacher there.
And one of the parents had

Speaker 1 a child that was a furry and they wanted to put a litter box in the bathroom. Now, this was entirely relayed to me by my friend who it was relayed to him by his wife who worked in the school.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's true, but everybody got so angry and they started saying what I was saying was transphobic. And I got so confused because I was like, this is a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. What does that have to do with trans people? We're talking about someone who wants to shit in a box.
Like,

Speaker 1 where's the trans part of this? So, somehow or another, furries and that kink are getting like lumped into this LGBTQTAI plus whatever.

Speaker 1 And they're trying to like lump furries in there in this

Speaker 1 debunking of my conspiracy theory. Well, furries are their own.

Speaker 1 That's what I didn't understand.

Speaker 1 Because some of them is not sexual. But these guys, it was.
When I was talking to the guy that worked behind the counter, I was like, what is going on?

Speaker 1 He goes, dude, he goes, apparently, what these guys like to do is they have like a hatch on the back of their furry outfit. And they like to bang each other without even knowing who they're banging.

Speaker 1 All they do, they pretend they're banging a giant squirrel, and they're into it. And it's apparently like part of the fun is that you don't have to think about your body.

Speaker 1 Maybe you're ashamed of your body. Maybe you don't like your body.
Maybe you're just like, I'd rather someone just fuck me and think I'm a raccoon. And so that's what they do.
See,

Speaker 1 I pray to God I don't find out that that's my kink because it's just too much work. It's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 The head is heavy, you know?

Speaker 1 Heavy is the head that carries the throat. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 Any kink that requires maintenance. That's a lot of washing.
You got to wash that furry outfit. And if someone jizzes on it and doesn't tell you, they don't like it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but then it might be a subsection of the community where they like they like it not washed they want the dirty furries they over there like an animal like in the woods they don't wash themselves yeah come on let's go we're furries are we are we furries or are we men i once had a um i used to work at this pub in in san diego and uh one time we had it was like a

Speaker 1 it was like i don't know if they're a subsect of the furry world but it's like they're they're like my little pony people Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What do they call them? There's a name for that.
Bronies. Bronies.
Bronies. Yeah, it was like a whole fashion or something

Speaker 1 and they and they were all very nice and respectful and you could see you know there were a handful of women involved and you could see everybody trying to angle for the but they they took they they just they filled up our pub and these are all the my little pony people yeah documentary that was like 10 years 12 years and

Speaker 1 and they heart and they hardcore like they they they don't tolerate any teasing whatsoever like if you try to come at them about it it's gonna be a problem

Speaker 1 You know like you gotta be able to take some teasing Yes if you want if you want me to take you seriously I'm telling you bro they want they're gonna throw hoofs immediately

Speaker 1 People will find a thing that they're really into no matter what it is They will find a fucking thing that they're really into But that's the reason that's why I don't kink Shane because I'm like hey man, if you

Speaker 1 Just be lucky that all the things that make you come are normal or are things you consider normal. You know what I mean? Right.
Because I feel bad. Like imagine if if you found out.

Speaker 1 Right, that that was your thing. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you could only get off if you was dressed as a wolf.

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Speaker 1 I think it's a psychological thing where they don't like who they really are.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's, that's, if I had a guess what the furry thing is, I don't think there's any well-I mean, I don't know, maybe there's some well-balanced furries out there that just have a weird thing.

Speaker 1 But I think most of them just don't like who they are. And so they just want to hide in this thing that's all smiley and hi, kids.
You know, you look like a fucking some sort of a giant animal.

Speaker 1 See, I have a theory. I think

Speaker 1 whatever, I think the first time you encounter something sexual, whatever's happening gets like burned into your shit.

Speaker 1 That's a that's called imprinting. Yeah, like if like I got a homie that

Speaker 1 that's like into like you know, the BDSM world and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 And he has no idea. And I was like, well, how did you know that? He was like, oh, I have no idea.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, years later, without completely unrelated he's telling me one time about him looking for Christmas presents and going in the back of his parents closet and finding a whole chest of you know whips and chains and shit like that when he was like six or seven years old

Speaker 1 and he didn't make the connection where it's like oh yeah well that's why you're yeah duh yeah parents into whips and chains and shit

Speaker 1 and I don't know if that had to happen because I think your kinks are genetic really yeah why do you think that I think I've read that right well I think some information is probably passed down from parents to kids, and I would imagine kinks could be in there.

Speaker 1 Because, like, artistic talent is passed down. Obviously, athletic talent is often passed down.

Speaker 1 It would make sense. I bet a lot of that.
I bet they don't know exactly what you're giving to your kids.

Speaker 1 Well, let's find out because if it's true, I mean, that's going to make you look at your mama real different. Right.

Speaker 1 You don't want to know that. That's horrible.
Yeah, but

Speaker 1 I pity the poor people that have accidentally walked in and their parents fucking.

Speaker 1 What? You never did that? No. No.
Meaning? The horror. No, actually, that's not true.
I never walked in, but I definitely knew that that's what was happening.

Speaker 1 I can block that out. Really? You can't block out the visual.
Because you've definitely touched the doorknob and be like,

Speaker 1 Your dad with his feet up in your air, your mom eating his ass.

Speaker 1 I don't have no visuals. Your dad's stroking it while your mom's eating his ass.
Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, God, watch it.
Yeah, see, there you go.

Speaker 1 I can't live anymore like that.

Speaker 1 I can't go through this world. I'm going to have to get electroshock therapy.

Speaker 1 But imagine

Speaker 1 if you walk in and, you know, I mean, what would have to happen for you to be a furry? What would you have to see? I don't think it's that.

Speaker 1 I think probably there's probably some social disorder involved in some of those folks, too. There's like furry lights, which my kids go to school with.
There's some kids that

Speaker 1 wear like ears and like maybe a tail. And every now and then you see one of those.

Speaker 1 This Bronia thing might have started as a 4chan troll that's too far in the middle. 4chan rules.

Speaker 1 They're the best. I can't tell.

Speaker 1 Do you see what they did with the free flow, a free bleeding project? What is that? Hold on, wait.

Speaker 1 They tricked women into thinking that it's like a sign of feminism to just bleed and not have a tampon or a maxi pad. Oh, like old school.
You just let it go.

Speaker 1 Free bleeding. And so they did it as a joke.
And and then some women adopted it because they thought it was like, you know, radical feminist

Speaker 1 crazy ladies. So now free bleeding is like a trend? No, it didn't last.
It's disgusting. It's probably totally unsanitary.
You smell like fish. It's hell.
It's hell.

Speaker 1 You have a pussy blood running down your fucking pants and you're showing up at the office. You expect to keep your job here at United Health? Get out of here.

Speaker 1 I don't think anybody was showing up at no offices.

Speaker 1 Those are definitely chicks with no jobs. At Starbucks, you're showing up at Starbucks? Oh, that's not real.
No way. That lady would die.

Speaker 1 She would literally be dead. That's like if you shot her with a fucking arrow.
The thing is, there's no.

Speaker 1 Is this lady free bleeding?

Speaker 1 These were the 4chan posts of people trying to share it. That it was real.
I'm not putting this on the screen. But that could be a lady that's just doing a marathon and forgot a tampon.

Speaker 1 It's like, fuck it, I'm going to push through it. Because I saw one lady who diarrhea herself.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It went all down her leg and everything, and she completed that fucking race.

Speaker 1 Well, the thing is, it's hard to tell what's real and what's AI. That's real.
That's real. That's a little pussy blood right there.
I can tell. I'm an expert.

Speaker 1 But the thing is, but free bleeding is one thing, but it's like, but just getting your pussy blood on other people's stuff. They don't care.
Like if you're doing that shit at home or in the grass,

Speaker 1 they're marking their territory.

Speaker 1 Well, what did people do before they invented tampons? Like, I mean, are you supposed to just wash it out? Like, what are you supposed to do? What does nature want you to do?

Speaker 1 Like, nature doesn't want you. That's why toxic shock syndrome is a thing.

Speaker 1 When women have tampons and they leave them up there and then they can get really sick and women have died from toxic shock syndrome from tampons i don't think people even cared about someone i don't know if this this might be full satire but this is someone talking about how it's not made up and it's a real thing

Speaker 1 people tried to claim this they started this misogynic users of the online forum 4chan would claim that they jokingly started the movement in 2014 and see how far they could make angry feminists go fake memes and twitter accounts apparently belonged to feminist activists began posting content about free bleeding.

Speaker 1 This backfired spectacularly for the 4chan trolls when they unwittingly created a discourse around the normalization of periods. What?

Speaker 1 The free bleeding movement, whether fake or not, quickly became very real and got women talking about their monthly cycle. Since then, notable moments in the free bleeding movement have included

Speaker 1 Koran Gandhi running the Boston Marathon

Speaker 1 without something while bleeding. They missed something there.
It says without while bleeding through her sports shorts.

Speaker 1 Poet Rupi Carr also became notable in the movement when an image of her menstrual blood on her pants and bed sheets was repeatedly removed from Instagram that same year.

Speaker 1 Imagine, like, you're a hero because your pussy blood is on the internet.

Speaker 1 This is so kooky. This sounds like this is satire.

Speaker 1 It could be. I mean, who wrote it? What's it in? It's a blog of.

Speaker 1 I think you have a hard time convincing most.

Speaker 1 Yeah, most, but these are crazy people. Like, most people don't want to fuck wearing a squirrel outfit, but crazy people do.
Some people do. I'm not saying furries are crazy.

Speaker 1 What is the blog? And do they have other things that seem like satire? Because that seems like satire. I'm checking real time transit.
It's hard to tell at the edges.

Speaker 1 When you get to the edges of radical feminism and radical leftism and radical right-wing, you know, Patriot Front type shit, it's hard to tell what satire when you get to the edges, when you get to the most extreme examples of any movement.

Speaker 1 Well, also,

Speaker 1 everything's AI.

Speaker 1 People just lie. People just say bullshit.
Also, all those, whether it's the right-wing movements like Proud Boys or whether it's Antifa, they get infiltrated.

Speaker 1 Those guys get infiltrated by government officials 100 fucking percent. I guarantee you there's some FBI agents in Antifa, and I guarantee you there's some FBI agents that are in the Proud Boys.

Speaker 1 I think the head of the Proud Boys was already outed as an FBI informant. Isn't that true? I think that find that out.
Google that. Really? Yes.
That's not shocking at all. I think.

Speaker 1 Every single movement gets to be a bad thing. I think he still went to jail, too.
I think he still went to jail for January 6th.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, they still locked up.

Speaker 1 Let me see.

Speaker 1 Let's say, what does it say? Head of the Proud Boys revealed to have been an FBI informant, Enrico Tario.

Speaker 1 Tario served as the national chairman of the Proud Boys from 2018 to to 2021 and was a central figure in the group's activities, including its role in the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot.

Speaker 1 However, it was later disclosed that Tario worked as an informant for federal and local law enforcement agencies between 2012 and 2014 prior to his leadership in the Proud Boys. Oh, beforehand.

Speaker 1 That's even crazier. That's even crazier.

Speaker 1 Were they telling us the truth? Like, that he's not doing it anymore? It's like, fucking, who knows, man?

Speaker 1 It's layers layers upon layers. It's those Russian nesting dolls, and you open it and there's another one in there, and you open, there's another one in there.

Speaker 1 Bro,

Speaker 1 the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 I heard there's no files. I heard it's a hoax.
And then all of a sudden, he's going to release the files. Well, I thought there was no files.
Man, he wants an investigation now. Listen.

Speaker 1 Like, what is going on? They voted 427 to 1. Who's the house? Who's the one?

Speaker 1 Who's the one?

Speaker 1 I didn't see why he said, but he did. National Security.
Let me pull it up. No fucking way you know.
No security.

Speaker 1 If you found out all of Congress voted for something and you the only one that didn't, can you change your vote?

Speaker 1 You can't be the one, guy. It shouldn't be.
It should be that it has to be like, no one can know what the vote is before you do it. Bro, I would love to hear his reasoning.
How you the one?

Speaker 1 Well, you know, I was feeling like, let's move past it and let's get on with our business.

Speaker 1 Bro, you can't move past it. These billionaires are good people.
Okay. You can't move past it.
They're good, solid people.

Speaker 1 Who? Clay Higgins. Where's he at of?

Speaker 1 Arkansas. Indiana.
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Somebody got to him. One of the bottom 10 in education or something like that.
Somebody got to him. That's crazy, though.
Before and in 20 to 1.

Speaker 1 I have been a principal note on this bill from the beginning. What was wrong with the bill three months ago?

Speaker 1 It abandons 250 years of criminal justice procedure in America. As written, this bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people, witnesses, people who provided alibis, family members, etc.

Speaker 1 If enacted in its current form, this type of broad reveal of criminal investigative files released to a rabid media will absolutely result in innocent people being hurt. Not by my vote.

Speaker 1 The Oversight Committee is conducting a thorough investigation that has already released well over 60,000 pages of documents from the Epstein case.

Speaker 1 That effort will continue in a manner that provides all due protections for innocent Americans.

Speaker 1 If the Senate amends the bill to properly address privacy of victims and or other Americans who are named but not criminally implicated, then I will vote for that bill when it comes back to the House.

Speaker 1 He's in that motherfucker. Well, that's a point, though, right? Like, there was people that had, like, people that had dinner over Epstein's house.

Speaker 1 Like, Epstein had dinners and had celebrities go over his house. Like, Chelsea Handler was one of the people that went over his house.
I don't think Chelsea Handler is out there molesting kids.

Speaker 1 No, no, I get that. You know what I mean? No, I get that, but I think we're...

Speaker 1 We're past that. We're beyond that point now because...
Right, you just have to be able to say, hey, I went to his house for dinner.

Speaker 1 dinner yeah i don't i'm not saying because because people try to do that to you with like pictures they're like any if you was in a picture with somebody that they right you know but it's like

Speaker 1 it's the difference between being in the picture with somebody and then being in 500 pictures with them right you know what i mean flying to an island

Speaker 1 i i think the

Speaker 1 because this is a big problem i mean related back to what we were talking about earlier with hollywood too is that i think a lot of i think a lot of these motherfuckers don't respect the public They don't respect our intelligence.

Speaker 1 I think the average American is smart enough to know the difference between somebody that was just in there or somebody that testified than somebody that was

Speaker 1 banging children.

Speaker 1 See, the thing is, the average American probably can tell the difference, but there are sub-average individuals that all they want to know is you're on the list, and they hear you're on the list, and they might try to kill you.

Speaker 1 And that is a fact.

Speaker 1 But here's the thing: the problem is. And I'm not advocating for not releasing the files.
I'm just saying there's enough dumb, nutty people that will think that you're guilty.

Speaker 1 There's been so much obfuscation with this. It would be different if there was no pushback.
But there's,

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 what's at stake is people's belief in the integrity of the process.

Speaker 1 That's already cooked. Oh, well, yeah.
That's already

Speaker 1 the last little shreds of it that are left. It's like, no more you getting to sift through and decide.
Because he's, you know, it's easy to say that.

Speaker 1 But the truth is, they want to be able to decide whose names get seen and whose names don't. And people aren't with that.
Like, you know. And they shouldn't be with that.

Speaker 1 Or, or we agree with this guy and then he and then we let them kennedy joints out we we've been waiting for them think about it they said the same thing about the kennedy well we don't want to hurt and every time they're supposed to release it they kick it down the road they released some new kennedy documents but no i never heard anything come out of it yeah it was supposed to be it's supposed to have been released two or three presidents there's no way those people are alive right the long what we know is this we know that i forget who said it but justice delayed is justice denied the longer we wait the more we let these fucking snakes kick the can down the road, the more they get to obfuscate and muddy the waters.

Speaker 1 Trump said about the JFK files. What? He said, I saw them, and if you saw what I saw, you wouldn't release them either.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm screaming.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 What does that mean? What does that mean? I don't even, I can't even imagine what that means. What does that mean? What could that mean?

Speaker 1 What does that mean? I don't know. Does that mean a foreign government? Does that mean our government? Does that mean the mafia? Does that mean a

Speaker 1 coordinated effort with all the above? What does that mean? I have no idea what it could possibly mean.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's crazy for something that happened in 1963.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And almost everyone involved, almost everyone that could be embarrassed somehow is dead.
62 years ago, man. So it would have to be something that destroys an institution or something.
Something.

Speaker 1 Like this Epstein shit. Right.

Speaker 1 But just the amount, the sheer amount of people with insane amounts of money that are attached to this. Because my conservative friends be like,

Speaker 1 they think I give a fuck about a Democrat. They'd be like, oh, you,

Speaker 1 with a Bill Clinton's in there. Like, I don't give a fuck who in there.
I don't care who in there. You don't care.
Put that shit in the street. Yeah.
They think you do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't have, I don't have a... Party identity.
I don't have a favorite politician.

Speaker 1 There's nobody. I don't give these motherfuckers money.
No, that's. No, there's no politician that I love enough to.
Because this is what's killing me.

Speaker 1 There's people out there that are literally like,

Speaker 1 well, how old is 16, really? You know, like they're trying to justify, like,

Speaker 1 because they want to come out of this

Speaker 1 by still showing support, but they don't want to be connected to the crime. So they're still trying to justify their support of all of this.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's like, there's no politician I love more than I love my country or more than I have my principles of like, yeah, I think if you can't draw the line at kid fucking, then you probably should stop talking in public.

Speaker 1 Like, you shouldn't have public discourse, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Man, I think this is a pattern that has existed forever in politics. They want you to be compromised when you get into any sort of a position so they can control you.

Speaker 1 And I think these things like Epstein and there's probably a bunch of other similar operations that are being run, they provide you with like a really good time or maybe you're a high-profile, extremely wealthy individual and it's hard for you to get hoes.

Speaker 1 And some guy tells you, hey, we've got everything covered. You know, you come to my island.
Nothing, you know, what happens on the island stays on the island.

Speaker 1 Bro, they just kicked, didn't they kick somebody out of the royal family? Oh, yeah. Who? Prince Andrew.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they kicked him out of the family and there hasn't even been like a former trial yet. It's not like he's convicted.

Speaker 1 But what does that, what, what happens when you're not, they just walk you out the castle and you just don't know. You're just on the street? I think he's in a house like way out in the country.

Speaker 1 Like you stay here.

Speaker 1 In my head, I just picture him like crying over some KFC because he's never eaten peasant food.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's eating peasant food. So he's just not, so he's not a regular person.
I think he's in a manor, like a beautiful home in the country. Okay, so

Speaker 1 he has to say. So being kicked out of the royal family doesn't mean that you just, that you lose everything.
Who knows? I mean, what does he have? And where did he get it?

Speaker 1 Is it just money from the government? Because they do get paid by the government. They do, but I also think they're still dukes of something and lords of something.
Here it says what he lost.

Speaker 1 So after being stripped of his royal titles and forced to leave his longtime residence at Royal Lodge, Royal Lodge, Prince Andrew, now formerly known as

Speaker 1 Andrew Montbaten Windsor, will relocate to accommodation in the Sandringam. Sandrigam? How do you say that? Yeah, I think that.
Sandrigam Estate in Norfolk.

Speaker 1 He is now excluded from royal duties and public life, and his status has been dramatically reduced. His status has been reduced.

Speaker 1 Loss of titles and status, eviction from Royal Lodge, relocation to Sandringham Estate. So he's relocated to an estate in the countryside.
Public exclusion.

Speaker 1 He remains excluded from all royal engagements and official events, except for private family gatherings. That sounds sweet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, he's getting away with not having to be,

Speaker 1 you know, like not being in the public eye. That's it.
Well, they were basically like, you know, all the parts about being a royal that suck? Yeah, you don't have to do those anymore. Look at this.

Speaker 1 Financial support. The king will provide for Andrew's basic needs, but his former royal funding and security benefits have been ended.

Speaker 1 Andrew has sought private business opportunities to support himself, but no public roles are expected. Wow.
Who's going to go into business with you, my guy? He's going to go.

Speaker 1 He wants to go into business. He's going to open up a Starbucks.
He's getting money from the king all this time.

Speaker 1 This whole thing is nuts because they get money, and I don't think they have to do anything. Like, I don't think they have real function in government, do they? Bruh.
Where's the Sandringham Estates?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's where he got... Poor guy.
That's so sad. That's so sad.
They made him stay in that castle.

Speaker 1 Look how beautiful that place is. That is so nuts that this guy got kicked out of there.
Bro. He got kicked out of wherever the fuck he was, the royal lord.

Speaker 1 Unless they tell me his punishment is like, they give you that estate, but they take all the servants. Bro, look at the gardener's house.
Show me the gardener. That's the gardener's house.

Speaker 1 That's where the gardener lives. That fucking place is beautiful.
That is hilarious, dude. Like, if they give him that place, but they don't give him no servants, and he just got to clean everything.

Speaker 1 He got to walk a mile to the kitchen. Yeah, he's got to do his own dishes.
No, but

Speaker 1 this guy's living the life. So he just gets banished to a mansion.
He don't got to do no public duties.

Speaker 1 And they they probably just bring Hoes out to the mansion. Do you think he gets a puppy? It's not like he stopped banging Hose.
No. Right? I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't know what he's in trouble for. Right.
That's the thing. They haven't told us.
But to get kicked out of the royal family,

Speaker 1 they didn't even kick Megan Markle out the family, and they racist.

Speaker 1 Legal and public impact. What is this? These changes result from long-standing controversies over Andrew's association with Jeffrey Epstein and subsequent legal settlements.
Oh, he's got settlements.

Speaker 1 Particularly the civil case bought by Virginia Guffrey, which concluded without any admission of liability by Andrew, but resulted in a multi-million pound settlement. Do you know that there's

Speaker 1 the amount of money that's been paid out to victims of Jeffrey Epstein is like $300 million so far? From where? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Is that true? Yeah, but

Speaker 1 there's also a bunch of money that just moved after he died that no one really understands yet.

Speaker 1 This is all so sketchy. Bro, I'm telling you, a lot of people, if they really release this shit in earnest, a lot,

Speaker 1 it's going to change everything. I hope.
I hope it's that powerful. You think it will be?

Speaker 1 Well, all I know is the most powerful person on earth has been doing a lot to keep that shit from coming out. And

Speaker 1 I'm not like everybody else. I don't think Trump is in there in a criminal way.

Speaker 1 But I think a lot of, he has a lot of powerful friends that have been putting pressure on him to keep that shit under wraps. I think that definitely has to be.
I think it's going to be royal people.

Speaker 1 It's going to be prime ministers. It's going to be Supreme Court justices.
It's going to be all types of shit. Former presidents.
Yeah, some CEOs.

Speaker 1 It's going to be all type of shit in there. Scientists.
Get it out. Yeah.
Get it out. Yeah, yeah.
The world already,

Speaker 1 there's nothing to lose for America as a whole. What a crazy operation they were running.
What a crazy thing

Speaker 1 to have a bunch of people fly them out to an island that somehow or another you own. Like, where'd you get the money to buy a fucking island, bro? It's not as expensive as you think.
A whole island?

Speaker 1 Yeah. We looked at that island.

Speaker 1 We were trying to buy it.

Speaker 1 We were actually, I shouldn't say we're trying to buy it. We were thinking about it very briefly, but it was too expensive.
It was like $55. It's not discounted now? That's a discount.

Speaker 1 That's the discounted price? Oh, okay. Okay.
I would imagine it's worth well more than that.

Speaker 1 Like, if you buy a beautiful house in like Miami, a beautiful house in Miami might be $200 million if it's on the ocean. Those like crazy manors in like West Palm Beach.

Speaker 1 But it's like, but the island's basically haunted. You got to save the whole motherfucking thing.
It's too late. You got to level it.

Speaker 1 You got to remove the dirt and go get dirt from like some pristine island.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to remove everything. It would be that's the same reason why we never bought the One World Theater.
The same thing. Oh, that weird cult.
Yeah, the cult thing.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, man, there's not enough sage in the world. Yeah.
You have to come by with some holy water, anointing oil. That's a beautiful property.

Speaker 1 But I was like, what do they do to those poor people there?

Speaker 1 You know, and that island. is like.
I wouldn't be shocked if that dude was on it. What was his name?

Speaker 1 The cult leader of that cult. Well, he had different names.

Speaker 1 His first, I forget what his real name was.

Speaker 1 He had the same name as a boxer.

Speaker 1 I forget his fucking name. What is

Speaker 1 the cult leader's name in Holy Hell?

Speaker 1 But he changed his name twice. So

Speaker 1 he had a fake name when he was teaching yoga in West Hollywood when he started the cult.

Speaker 1 And then when the Cult Awareness Network started going after him, because after Waco, they started going after all the cults. They're like, these motherfuckers are arming up.
Like, this is dangerous.

Speaker 1 Let's find out. And also, it's like a lot of people lost their family members.
Jaime Gomez. That's right.

Speaker 1 So he was

Speaker 1 Michel, Michelle, and then he became Andreas once he came to

Speaker 1 Texas. So what happened was He, they were after him.
And so this dude picks up shop and just moves to Austin.

Speaker 1 And just to throw people off, has his followers build a theater so he could dance in front of them. They built that.
His followers built that theater.

Speaker 1 And see, I have improved

Speaker 1 for people to get sucked in and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 But I feel like we know enough now where it's like, if you're unsure if you're in a cult, like as soon as the guy wants to fuck your wife,

Speaker 1 you should be. Or your dad.

Speaker 1 Right. Or just anyone.

Speaker 1 This guy was fucking everybody.

Speaker 1 As soon as the leader needs to fuck your family. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's the red flag right there. If there was no alarm bells before that point, like when they asked you to give up all your stuff, maybe you still had hope.

Speaker 1 You know, when they started giving you duties as a servant, maybe you still had help. But when they need to fuck your family member,

Speaker 1 I feel like

Speaker 1 that should set off all the alarms for you.

Speaker 1 They wait until you're deep in the cult before they bust that one out. Like David Koresh, didn't he wait like a long time? I think they were already on the compound.

Speaker 1 He was like, God just told me I have to fuck your wife. Like for real, it was one of that, it was that dumb.
It was like that dumb.

Speaker 1 Like God spoke to him and told him that no one was allowed to have sex but him.

Speaker 1 And he could have sex with everybody's wife. Group pressure is very powerful.
I find out if that's true. Like none of us are really above it.

Speaker 1 You got to be careful with what groups you around it because that pressure to conform, you know, because it's, because I best he's not just like, I got to fuck your wife, but he's surrounded by people going, do it, do it.

Speaker 1 You know, all cheer it on with towels. They have their little saying they say, you know,

Speaker 1 that pressure to praise Jesus. Yep.

Speaker 1 That pressure to please everyone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because there's a certain type of person that gets sucked roped into those things. Well, I always wonder about that.

Speaker 1 Is there a grand pattern to the universe? Is there a

Speaker 1 mathematical formulation that we exist in where you have to have a certain amount of gullible people and then a certain amount of devious people that try to trick people and con artists, and then a certain amount of people like you that are like, What the fuck is going on?

Speaker 1 Like that, all of this sort of like dances together and balances itself out.

Speaker 1 And just like nature has predators and it has wounded antelope that get too close to the water hole, all these things like kind of have to exist at the same time in order for progress to be made.

Speaker 1 It seems like it's just a certain amount of people that are just born gullible and not just gullible, but kind of like wanting to be tricked.

Speaker 1 He reportedly annulled marriages of couples who joined the sect and took multiple women as his spiritual wives, some of whom were very young girls.

Speaker 1 Former cult members have alleged that Koresh slept with wives of other members and maintained a harem, sometimes with women who were already married, and fathered numerous children with various women.

Speaker 1 Quresh also instructed male followers to practice celibacy and surrender their wives to him.

Speaker 1 This behavior was part of his doctrine and control over the group's women and children, often accompanied by allegations of sexual abuse and manipulation. Yeah.

Speaker 1 See, the thing is, those guys, they're not influential guys.

Speaker 1 Their superpower is their ability to know who, like,

Speaker 1 they can sense who's broken in just the right way

Speaker 1 and come in and be daddy. Yeah.
You know, because, yeah,

Speaker 1 can you imagine a motherfucker telling you to be celibate while he banging your wife? Crazy. Crazy.
And you're living in a compound with him, and he's heavily armed.

Speaker 1 And you gave him all your worldly possessions. And he sings, and he's terrible.
You have to listen to him sing. You ever listen to him sing? Or he's dancing on a stage that you built?

Speaker 1 Listen, play some David Koresh movies.

Speaker 1 He would sing songs. They were terrible.
He has music. Yeah, he was terrible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was a musician. He was a frustrated musician who became an evangelical.

Speaker 1 Which one do you want me to use? I don't know. Give me one.
Anyone? They're all, I'm sure they all suck.

Speaker 1 Let's listen to David Koresh. Recorded in Waco, Texas, 1989.

Speaker 1 If I was in that cult, I'd be like, there ain't no one in the way. I ain't going to want to let him fuck my wife now.

Speaker 1 But how about that name? The name. Is that like the name of a woman he was trying to fuck? Shoshanium.
Shashanium? I mean, that's a weird name. What does it say? Very unusual name.

Speaker 1 I've never heard that name in my whole life. It probably was some girl he was trying to fucking name.
Probably has to be. That's by biblical.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Psalms.

Speaker 1 Hebrew lilies.

Speaker 1 Mentioned in Psalms 45 and 49,

Speaker 1 its meaning in these Psalms is uncertain. Some believe it's kind of lily.
Click on that, what it says? A kind of lily. What is that saying? Lily-shaped straight trumpet.
What? A six-string trumpet.

Speaker 1 A word commencing a song or the melody of which these psalms were to be sung. Like, they don't even know.
Yeah, it was probably some girl's name. Yeah, probably a chick.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I saw Lil, and I was like, was that Lilith? Do you know who Lilith is? You ever heard of Lilith?

Speaker 1 You mean, like, the demon? Well, Lilith was like apparently before Eve.

Speaker 1 There's like, this is like, you know, again, I don't know who to believe or who not to believe. And what, I don't even know what scriptures show Lilith and what don't.

Speaker 1 But the only thing I know about Lilith is from Diablo lore. Oh, that's funny.
No, Lilith is like a character in ancient religious texts. Right.
She's a daughter of.

Speaker 1 Who is... Well, we're going to find out because I'll butcher it.
I'm very hesitant to say what I think it is because I don't really remember. She's the daughter of Beelzebub.

Speaker 1 Did Wes Huff tell us about this? No. You know who told us about this? Kurt Metzger.
Kurt Metzger was ranting and raving about Lilith. You don't know? You didn't know about Lilith?

Speaker 1 There's a few different ones, but this is the one that he was talking about. Lilith is not a character in the Bible.
Her name is only mentioned in one verse in the book of Isaiah. This one here.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Origin of the legend. The story of Lilith as Adam's first wife comes from later Jewish folklore, such as the alphabet of Bensira, which was not included in the canonical Bible.

Speaker 1 The legend's core story is, according to its folklore, Lilith was created from the earth at the same time as Adam, making her his equal.

Speaker 1 When she refused to be subservient to him, she left the Garden of Eden. That sounds like...
The true story.

Speaker 1 Some interpretations claim that Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 describe two different creation stories and two different women.

Speaker 1 This is considered incorrect and ludicrous by many biblical scholars and theologians. Evolution of the figure.

Speaker 1 Over time, Lilith's story evolved from a simple night demon from Mesopotamian cultures to more complex figure in Jewish tradition.

Speaker 1 In modern times, some have reclaimed her as a feminist symbol of independence and equality. That's funny.
A Lilith fair. That's where that Lilith story.
See there. That picture of Lilith?

Speaker 1 That's from Diablo, the video game. I would play as that character.
Can you play as as her in Fortnite? No, no, no. She's the bad guy.

Speaker 1 She fucks you up. That would be a dope character for Quake if you could be Lilith and run around a map fucking people up.
I think you can beat her in Fortnite or something. Nice.

Speaker 1 I think they buy every Fortnite. That's what she looked like?

Speaker 1 In the game? In the game? Oh, yeah. And she's hard to beat.
Yeah. Yeah, I've only beat her once, but I haven't played in a long time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everything I know about her is from that game, and it sounds like it's all wrong. But isn't it funny the Shoshananime or whatever the fuck it is? They don't even know what that was.

Speaker 1 Like, it might have been a trumpet, it might have been a flute, it might have been a person.

Speaker 1 It could have been a song, it could have been the way you sing. I bet you like a Hebrew scholar could probably tell you.
Maybe. It seems like it's up for debate.

Speaker 1 That's the problem with a lot of really old shit. It's like they're just guessing.
They're really old shit. They're just guessing.
Like, what are they trying to say in the book of Ezekiel?

Speaker 1 What are they trying to say? Is it crazy? Oh, my God. I haven't read a Bible in like 20 years.
The Ezekiel stuff's bananas, man. There you go.
I asked Perplexity a little more about Shoshanahim

Speaker 1 was a group or entity related to the Branch Davidian's cult led by David Koresh. A group or entity related to it?

Speaker 1 The name seems to refer to Kores' followers who identified themselves as students of the seven seals.

Speaker 1 Oh, so they were his people.

Speaker 1 So he called his people that group. Alliteration that gets you every time.

Speaker 1 Reflecting their focus on apocalyptic teachings derived from the Bible's book of Revelation.

Speaker 1 Koresh positioned himself as a messianic figure, calling himself the Lamb who would open the seven seals, an event that would lead to salvation and the apocalypse.

Speaker 1 Followers under Quresh's leadership and ideology were sometimes referred to as Qureshians. You know what would be crazy? What really would be crazy is if heaven was real and

Speaker 1 the murder, like them being murdered, sent them to heaven. Because they were those people were murdered.

Speaker 1 Do you ever see what the actual footage of of

Speaker 1 when they stormed Waco? No. Oh, bro.
It's crazy. They killed those people.
They lit them on fire. They drove tanks into the buildings and flames are shooting out of the tanks.

Speaker 1 They just cooked those people. Not just Koresh, not just people.
They're like everybody. Men, women, children.

Speaker 1 What are they trying to do in the first place? Just have them disarm? Well, there was a problem with...

Speaker 1 There's a lot. to the story, and it seems like in the beginning, there might have been some governmental overreach, like they were trying to get a win, and they were trying to

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 who described this to us? Was it Oliver Stone?

Speaker 1 Who is telling? It might have been Daryl Cooper. Daryl Cooper has an amazing series

Speaker 1 all on

Speaker 1 the Waco. No, he doesn't.
It's the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 He has one on Guyana. That's what he has on.
Somebody has one on Koresh. Is it Cooper?

Speaker 1 So who has a series on Koresh?

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, I'm blanking here, but.

Speaker 1 The point is, they wanted to win. So they wanted to take out this cult, and so they exaggerated what they were doing, and they had a stand down.

Speaker 1 So they stood outside of the gates with fucking armored vehicles, and cops, and men with guns, and they waited them out. And eventually it escalated.
It escalated to them getting agents on the roof.

Speaker 1 Agents on the roof got shot at by the people that were in the cult. And so then they started shooting at them and it became a gunfight.

Speaker 1 And then they brought in tanks and lit it on fire and killed everybody it's it's a crazy story man it is crazy it is the whole thing there was a i know there's a documentary on it as well that uh like details like all the different things that led up to the eventual storming of the compound and did that

Speaker 1 because what year did that happen was that like 80 yeah it was like i think it was like in either the early 90s like 90 or 80 what was it

Speaker 1 the siege was in 93 oh was it really 93 see i don't remember that i remember it like i remember i vague like i vaguely remember hearing about it but i in my mind it's like it's not like something that happened yeah you know because that's the same that was right around um

Speaker 1 wasn't it around the oh the oj murder too yep yep because that trial was 94.

Speaker 1 okay yeah so i was like to me that's a significant cultural event and i don't remember the waco thing being like i remember hearing about it afterwards i don't remember hearing about it while it was happening oh i heard about it but were people what did how did how did the people react to the government just killing people?

Speaker 1 Well, they didn't know. Even though

Speaker 1 there was no internet back then. It took a while before people really got hip.
There was a few documentaries that were released. There was some news footage that got released.

Speaker 1 And maybe you can get a hold of a VHS tape, some obscure VHS tape that might have had something to do with Waco.

Speaker 1 But people really didn't know until they started making documentaries about it, until they saw it on the internet.

Speaker 1 Once you can see it, because most people are just going to believe the narrative. What's the narrative? People had guns, which they did.
The guy was a piece of shit and a cult leader, which he was.

Speaker 1 But like, how did it lead to mass murder? How did it lead to them just? Well, it led to they blocked out this guy's house. They, they, you know, and that's not even the worst one.

Speaker 1 The worst one is Ruby Ridge. That one's horrible.
What happened at Ruby Ridge?

Speaker 1 Put that into perplexity. Ruby Ridge.
This one's a crazy story because the Ruby Ridge story is like totally avoidable and horrific. Like they shot a mother while she was holding her baby.
Like, crazy.

Speaker 1 This was like a family of, like, preppers that were, like, out in the woods. And, you know, maybe the guy was like a little radical, but they completely escalated it.
Was this in Texas, too? Murdered.

Speaker 1 No, I don't remember where that was.

Speaker 1 Where was that? Idaho. Okay.
Incident was an 11-day standoff in August of 1992 in Boundary County, Idaho, involving Randy Weaver, his family, and a friend, Kevin Harris, against U.S.

Speaker 1 Marshals and FBI agents. It began when U.S.
Marshals sought to arrest Randy Weaver for failing to appear in court on federal firearms charges related to the sale of a modified shotgun.

Speaker 1 The situation escalated after Weaver's dog was shot by a marshal during surveillance, leading to a firefight in which Weaver's 14-year-old son, Samuel, was killed by gunfire.

Speaker 1 Kevin Harris, a family friend, shot and killed Deputy Marshal William Deegan during the exchange. FBI hostage rescue team was called in, and during a sniper shot, Randy Weaver was wounded.

Speaker 1 The sniper second shot, intended for Harris, also hit and killed Weaver's wife, Vicki, who was holding their infant daughter behind a cabin door.

Speaker 1 The siege ended when negotiators, including activist Bo Gritz, convinced Weaver and Harris to surrender. Harris was arrested on August 30th, and Weaver, with his daughter, surrendered the next day.

Speaker 1 Criticism later arose over the FBI's rules of engagement and use of deadly force, particularly the constitutional legality of the sniper second shot that killed Vicki Weaver.

Speaker 1 The standoff highlighted tensions between federal law enforcement and citizens, especially among anti-government and white separatist groups.

Speaker 1 Weaver and Harris were charged with several offenses, but were acquitted of the most severe charges, except Weaver's conviction for failure to appear in court.

Speaker 1 Interesting. They were both acquitted.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 They got in a firefight with the feds and they were acquitted. Well, Kevin Harris popped it off.
And you know, just... Look at that statement.

Speaker 1 Weaver and Harris were charged with several offenses, but were acquitted of the most severe charges except Weaver's conviction for failure to appear in court. That's all they got him for.
So nothing.

Speaker 1 Failure to appear in court. They killed his wife.
They shot his kid. They killed his kid.
They killed his dog. And it was because he failed to appear in court.
Because he sold a modified gun.

Speaker 1 I don't even know what that means. Was it a sawed-off shotgun, which is illegal? But did he change the trigger? What did he do? Something.
Did he put a large magazine at the bottom of it?

Speaker 1 Like, what did he do that was illegal? That's crazy. But also, why are they allowed to kill your dog? Exactly.
Because that's what popped it all off, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, you want to hear one of the worst ones of that? There was a mayor. I forget

Speaker 1 what he was the mayor of. It might have been Washington, D.C., but he was a mayor.
And

Speaker 1 he had a postman. that was doing some sneaky shit.
And the postman was getting weed delivered to his house because they figured if I get it, I'm delivering the mail to the mayor's house.

Speaker 1 And if I get the weed delivered to the mayor's house, no one's going to check the mayor's packages for weed. So I know which one my friend sent to the mayor's house.
I'll just take that.

Speaker 1 And that way, you know, I'll have the weed and no one will be any the wiser. Well, unfortunately, someone was tracking that package and they knew that that weed was going to this particular address.

Speaker 1 They didn't know it was the mayor's house. So they stormed the mayor's house, shoot his fucking golden retriever, chase it out in the yard while it's cowering, and shoot it.

Speaker 1 And you've been around my golden retriever. Like the golden retrievers are not biting anybody ever, ever.
They are the worst guard dogs in the history of the world.

Speaker 1 Anybody who comes into my house, like, hey, you want to give me a treat? Like, he loves everybody. And they shot his dogs.

Speaker 1 They fucking zip-tied his family, checked the whole house for weed, couldn't find anything. And then eventually it unraveled and they realized what had happened.

Speaker 1 Like the guy who was in delivering his mail was also involved in this weed dealer. And they, you know, they didn't piece it together until after they shot this guy's fucking dogs.
Well, who's they?

Speaker 1 The cops, the SWAT team.

Speaker 1 They burst down his door. They did the whole thing, man.
They came in, guns, armor, fucking zip-tied everybody. They thought they were breaking into the house of like a drug dealer.

Speaker 1 That's how bad their information is.

Speaker 1 It sounded like they needed to be able to do it. See if you find that story.
Because it's a very, it's a crazy story.

Speaker 1 And it was so heartbreaking because because the family had to the kids had to see their dog get shot by these cops for fucking no reason no reason they they really got to start letting cops smoke weed

Speaker 1 I think so

Speaker 1 mushrooms

Speaker 1 weed's not strong enough but but something to get well also it's like therapy and you know also it's like hey know for sure. Like really do an investigation.

Speaker 1 How about find out who lives there? Oh my God, it's the mayor. Or like if you shoot a government retrieval, you should probably have to retire.
So here it is. Maryland.

Speaker 1 So police say Maryland mayor appears to be innocent victims of a scheme by two men to smuggle millions of dollars worth of marijuana by having it delivered to about a half a dozen unsuspecting recipients.

Speaker 1 So he was one of the many people that this guy delivered mail to.

Speaker 1 So he got home from work, saw a package addressed to his wife on the front porch, brought it inside, putting it on a table.

Speaker 1 Suddenly, police with guns drawn kicked in the door, stormed in, shooting to death the couple's two dogs, and seizing the unopened package.

Speaker 1 In it were 32 pounds of marijuana, but the drugs evidently didn't belong to the couple.

Speaker 1 Police say the couple appeared to be innocent victims of a scheme by two young men to smuggle millions of dollars of marijuana to unsuspecting recipients.

Speaker 1 Two men under the arrest include a FedEx delivery man. Investigators said the delivery man would drop off a package outside of a home and the other man would come by a short time later and pick it up.

Speaker 1 Wow. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 But only, hold on. So

Speaker 1 only the dogs died, though? Our dogs were our children. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Police apparently killed the dogs, he said, for sport, gunning down one of them as it was running away. Our dogs were our children, said the 37-year-old Calvo.
Two labs. Two labs were.

Speaker 1 Oh, they were labs. Oh, that's, oh, they were black labs.
I thought they were golden retrievers. I fucked it up.

Speaker 1 Our dogs were our children. Again, labs, same thing.
Labs aren't biting anybody. The sweetest dogs in the world.

Speaker 1 Said the 37-year-old Calvo, they were our reason we brought this house because it had a big yard for them to run in.

Speaker 1 unfucking believable.

Speaker 1 He was handcuffed in his boxer shorts for about two hours, along with his mother-in-law. Said the officers didn't believe him when we told them he was the mayor.

Speaker 1 No charges were brought against Calvo or his wife, who came home in the middle of the raid. Fuck, man.

Speaker 1 But they ain't even apologized for killing the dogs.

Speaker 1 Killed labs. Bro, you found out wild shit.
Like, I just, um, I just. I just so sad.
I just came from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Like, the

Speaker 1 Tulsa massacre.

Speaker 1 What's the Tulsa massacre? It was like Black Wall Street. It was like...
Why was this? This was

Speaker 1 the 20s, I think, or maybe the 1910s, like in the 1910s. Where like after the

Speaker 1 Trails of Tears, well, the civilized tribes, basically they were told that they could have Oklahoma because the land smelled funny, the air smelled funny, whatever. And then they found oil.

Speaker 1 And that set off a whole bunch of shit. Because now you got a bunch of natives and freed slaves that's about to be rich.
So you see that movie, the Flower Moon movie? No, I didn't see it.

Speaker 1 Oh, but it's kind of like that. Like they would,

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 they couldn't sell their land. Some tribes couldn't sell their land, so you had to marry into the family.
And then if you killed everybody, it was yours.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so, but Tulsa was, it's Black Wall Street, but it was like

Speaker 1 the Greenwood area. of Tulsa and they and it was basically like a prosperous wealthy black community and there was a riot one night and they burned it all down and

Speaker 1 and so they did this because of oil

Speaker 1 no well that was the backdrop for Oklahoma but but they did this just because of like racial jealous jealousy just like oh

Speaker 1 they did it because they were doing well yeah they were doing too well and there was a lot of racial tension in the community because the whole lot the whole idea behind institutional racism is that poor white people don't mind being taken advantage of because they know that it's black people somewhere that's doing worse than them.

Speaker 1 But that doesn't work if you live in next to dudes that's dressing better than you. They got cars.
They got thriving business. And it got racial.
The National Guard came in.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that was all stuff I learned before I went there. But then I went to the museum there.

Speaker 1 And I bring this up just because it would blow your mind how recently

Speaker 1 they, like, they just now acknowledged it like five years ago.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 This all happened because I was at the comedy club I was at, I mentioned to the owner, I was like, I've stayed in Hilton's all over the place.

Speaker 1 Why does my Hilton say, why does it have these pure things everywhere to tell you that the air is clean and the water's clean?

Speaker 1 And he was like, oh, yeah, they just started filtering the water that goes to the north side of town like a few years ago, like the black side of town. I was like, what? Like, how long? How recently?

Speaker 1 He was like, 20. And me and my friend were like, 20?

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, so I was like, he was like, have you not been to the museum? I'm like, no. And so we went over there and it was like, it was a heavy day.
Bro, this is crazy. Look at this statistics here.

Speaker 1 Look at how many blocks, 35 square blocks of the neighborhood. Yeah.

Speaker 1 At the time, one of the wealthiest black communities in the United States, colloquially known as Black Wall Street, more than 800 people were admitted to hospitals.

Speaker 1 As many as 6,000 black residents of Tulsa were interned, many of them for several days. The Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics officially recorded 36 dead.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Yeah.
And so they just now started, like the guy told me.

Speaker 1 Look at this. Estimates

Speaker 1 from 36 to around 300 dead.

Speaker 1 35 blocks. Yeah, they don't know how many are dead because it was a lot of mass graves and stuff that they just started looking for.
Holy shit, man. But

Speaker 1 even still to this day, they're not allowed to teach about it in schools.

Speaker 1 They just now started being allowed to teach about it, but they're not allowed to say who was who. Even the YouTube video is age restricted.
I was going to show it to you, but the account I'm on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this shit was crazy. And so, and so, Joe,

Speaker 1 if you want to feel real uncomfortable, so I'll go in the museum and they have these holograms. So,

Speaker 1 you sit in the barber chair and you can see yourself in the mirror, but there's a hologram of a barber like cutting your hair, and there's three of them in a row.

Speaker 1 And they're like having a conversation about what's going on around town.

Speaker 1 It's heavy, bro. Wow, put that back up.

Speaker 1 So the cause of it, they're saying...

Speaker 1 So it says the massacre

Speaker 1 began during Memorial Weekend after a 19-year-old Dick Rowland, a black shoeshiner, was accused of assaulting Sarah Page, a white 21-year-old elevator operator, in nearby Drexel building.

Speaker 1 He was arrested and rumors that he was to be lynched spread.

Speaker 1 The most likely, most widely reported and corroborated inciting incident occurred as the group of black men left when an elderly white man man approached O.B.

Speaker 1 Mann, a black man, and demanded that he hand over his pistol. Mann refused and the old man attempted to disarm him.

Speaker 1 A gunshot went off and then according to the sheriff's reports, all hell broke loose.

Speaker 1 The two groups shot at each other until midnight when the group of black men were greatly outnumbered and forced to retreat to Greenwood. Fuck.

Speaker 1 At the end of the exchange of gunfire, 12 people were dead, 10 white and 2 black.

Speaker 1 Alternatively, another eyewitness account account was that the shooting began down the street from the courthouse when black business owners came to the defense of a lone black man being attacked by a group of around six white men.

Speaker 1 It is possible the eyewitnesses did not recognize the fact that this incident was occurring as a part of a rolling gunfight that was already underway. Holy fuck, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, shit, shit went down in Greenwood. And the thing is, it's still not back.
So

Speaker 1 then they

Speaker 1 put a highway right through the middle of that neighborhood.

Speaker 1 And it completely destroyed all of the economy and everything.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah, man.
And

Speaker 1 I thought I knew about this shit. But then when I went there,

Speaker 1 it was real intense for me. But then

Speaker 1 we ate some good-ass food.

Speaker 1 It was me and Lucas McCurry. And when we got done, we got back to the hotel.
He was like, oh, that's the blackest day I've ever had. I was like, might be mad, too.
This is the place?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's called the...

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 It's called

Speaker 1 the Black Wall Street Museum.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they just recently admitted this?

Speaker 1 They admitted it probably in

Speaker 1 2010 or something like that. They acknowledged it.
I mean, everyone already knew. But now they're just now getting to the point where they're allowed to teach it.

Speaker 1 But they still aren't allowed to say what the people look like. So they can say group A did this and group B did that, but they can't say black, white.
They can't say Klan.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah, they still won't say certain people's names because these are like

Speaker 1 because the Klan is heavily involved too. Like when you go to the museum, there's like a Klan ledger of like the meeting,

Speaker 1 you know, like a roll call.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Yeah, it was a wild ass.
It's wild out there in Oklahoma. And the thing is, they still haven't recovered.
That neighborhood is still not recovered.

Speaker 1 I mean, mean, it never will at this point. The history of Oklahoma is so crazy.
Oklahoma is not. Well, that's the thing.
So we get done the tour.

Speaker 1 We walk out of the tour guide and I walk past this guy. I didn't know he was one of the guides because we didn't take a guide.
We just walked through the museum ourselves.

Speaker 1 And he goes, you look familiar. And I was like,

Speaker 1 you probably know me from Comedy. Well, he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he is like the guide. And then we walked around with him for like an hour.
Oh, wow. And he just, he told us, he was like, yeah, they don't even say everything.
So this is also,

Speaker 1 he took us to like all these historical spots and we ate at this place called Sweet Lisa's, which, bro, you could taste, you could taste the, the struggle, the season, everything with the season,

Speaker 1 just perfection. You know what I mean? You could just tell this recipe came from the ancestors.
It was incredible. And it's like in this little shop, they just got indoor seating.
You know, wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like, it was like, it was, it was almost like,

Speaker 1 I guess, because in my mind, it's easy to learn about shit like that and think of it as something that happened a long time ago.

Speaker 1 But then to be there and realize, like, they still haven't come all the way back.

Speaker 1 You see that photo of that lady, that Native American lady at the front door where she's breastfeeding a child? You've seen it. Oh, at the mothership? Yeah, here, here, in this room.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Outside. You never saw it? No.

Speaker 1 You know that

Speaker 1 one,

Speaker 1 you've seen the painting of a Native American face that's on bullets. It's like all the way back.
You've seen that? That's Kwana Parker.

Speaker 1 That lady, Cynthia Ann Parker, she was kidnapped by Comanches in Oklahoma. So what they used to do in Oklahoma is,

Speaker 1 this is so dark, they would give people these

Speaker 1 plots of land, knowing they were going to get attacked by the Comanches. Like, hey, you could go live out here.
And they basically like used them as bait.

Speaker 1 They started conflict to try to conquer these territories by just having people go out there and get shot at and get killed and get slaughtered.

Speaker 1 And then eventually they would have to send the army out.

Speaker 1 And then they won, after a long time, they eventually went through that and went through here or at Texas with the Comanche ran this place too.

Speaker 1 But they killed her whole family and they stole her when she was nine years old and they kept her because they had a hard time having children because they had so many horse riders.

Speaker 1 They were riding horses all the time and a lot of women miscarried. So it was very difficult for them to keep their numbers up.

Speaker 1 So when they would go on raiding parties, they would kill everybody except the children and and then they incorporate the children into the tribe cynthia and parker was the last of that tribe she gave birth to Quana Parker who was the last chief of that tribe she married the chief of the tribe she had a baby with him that baby that half American baby was Quana Parker he was the last chief of the Comanches so now there's noble Comanches I mean they still exist but they don't have a reservation like you know like they don't have territory

Speaker 1 it's it's they were nomadic and they they ran all I mean, I'm sure they, is there a Comanche reservation? We should find that out. Probably not.

Speaker 1 But they don't get represented because they didn't have art.

Speaker 1 It's a crazy civilization.

Speaker 1 What a dude was telling me that, like, so there were four tribes considered the civilized tribes.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 those are the people that agreed to like stop fighting the United States, to like learn English, to like be Christian, those kind of things. And they were promised Oklahoma knowing that

Speaker 1 it was already commanded. And so they got out there and got the...

Speaker 1 Yeah, the United States government did that with everybody. Bro.
The Comanche Nation is a federal recognized tribe headquartered in Lawton, Oklahoma, but do they have a reservation there?

Speaker 1 There's no longer a Comanche reservation in Texas. The historical one established in 1854 near Clear Fork of the Brazos River in present-day Thockmorton County.

Speaker 1 The Comanche were later forced to relocate to Indian Territory, now known as Oklahoma, in 1859, after the reservation was dissolved. And the current Comanche Nation is based in Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 So it seems like they don't have a reservation. Bro, it's mad history that I'm so ignorant about.
Got to read this book, Empire of the Summer Moon. Get it on audio.
It's incredible.

Speaker 1 Empire of the Summer Moon. Empire of the Summer Moon.

Speaker 1 It's all about the Comanche in Texas and in Oklahoma. But that's part of the story.
So

Speaker 1 what I was getting at is the history of Oklahoma is just seeped in violence.

Speaker 1 And it's still not fixed. It can't be.
But a lot of people are moving there right now. Well, I bet.

Speaker 1 A lot of of people want to move to a place where they don't get fucked with as much. Do you know what California is?

Speaker 1 What's it called in the Empire of the Summer Moon?

Speaker 1 You know what California is proposing?

Speaker 1 I don't know if they're going to do this, if they're going to be able to pull this off, but there's a new wealth tax that's basically they're going to tax your savings account. I just looked it up.

Speaker 1 It's only for 200 billionaires. What? Is what that's for.
What does that mean? It's not for like every person. Okay.
Even if it's for 200 billionaires, that's their fucking money.

Speaker 1 If you have a savings account, that means you paid taxes already. Like that's the only way you get a savings account.

Speaker 1 They're taxing billionaires' savings accounts. This is what I was reading today when people were talking about the proposition, this proposition of a wealth tax for savings accounts.

Speaker 1 That sounds, if I'm not reading into this incorrectly,

Speaker 1 it sounds crazy. Whatever.
I'm just saying, I just wanted to. I understand, but why, why, why? Why do you get to have a one-time tax of money that's already taxed?

Speaker 1 California does not currently have a wealth tax, but multiple proposals have been introduced, including a recent one for a one-time 5% tax on individuals with a net worth of over $1 billion.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm with Jamie on this. Fuck them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but not fuck them because that could be you someday. Here's the thing.
It's like

Speaker 1 it starts with them and then it trickles down to someone who's worth $500,000 or $5 million or whatever. 5% on money that you've already been taxed for.

Speaker 1 And then it goes to what, though, when you say fuck them, all it does is make make more bloated government. Because what are they going to do? They're going to spend it wisely?

Speaker 1 They've never spent any money wisely. The reason I say fuck them is because most of these billionaires, they go out of their way not to pay the taxes they're supposed to pay anyway.

Speaker 1 It's not like they're getting taxed. You know, a lot of these motherfuckers don't even pay any taxes.
Oh, that's not true. No, they all pay taxes.
Everyone pays taxes. It's just

Speaker 1 taxes on what? Like a lot of them, the way it works is all your money is in assets and you get paid a certain amount by the company.

Speaker 1 Like that's how, like, so when someone's worth X amount of money, that's not like how much money they have liquid. Right, right, I get it.
You know, that's a lot of it. But the point is,

Speaker 1 the government should not be taking your money that's already been taxed.

Speaker 1 If that's, if I'm reading into this correctly, so if you get a paycheck from the mothership, and then, you know, you do your taxes, and then you take that money, and you put it in a savings account, you've already paid your taxes.

Speaker 1 So if you've already paid your taxes on that money, how can they tax money that you've already taxed? Oh, no. That's crazy.
I don't care what people much money they own.

Speaker 1 I don't care how much if there's a loophole in the tax code, fix the loophole.

Speaker 1 But if it's there and that's the law and they are able to skirt around that law in whatever way that's legal, you don't get to steal their money.

Speaker 1 According to the Washington Post, this is from a healthcare workers union. That's a recent proposal, and it will go to fund healthcare spending.

Speaker 1 It still has to be voted on, also.

Speaker 1 But either way, all you're doing is taking money from people.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the group believes this could raise about $100 billion. Right.

Speaker 1 And what would they do with it? What do they do with the fire money? What happened to all the money that was raised for the Pacific Palisades fire? Does anybody know?

Speaker 1 That's a charity being corrupt. That wasn't the government.
Right. But this is what I'm saying.
It's the same thing. It's a group of people.

Speaker 1 You're giving them a bunch of money, and they're supposed to allocate it in a positive way.

Speaker 1 Whether it's the government or whether it's a charity, who fucking trusts anybody that's doing these things to be wise with the money, where it makes sense, where you're a billionaire going, you know what?

Speaker 1 I like it. Take my 5% and we're going to fix crime.
No, you're not fixing shit. You're just going to take my money and you're just going to be more incompetent.

Speaker 1 Do you know when Gavin Newsom got into office, they had a surplus. California had a surplus.
Really? Yes.

Speaker 1 Why don't you Google that?

Speaker 1 What was the surplus of California and during the time where Gavin Newsom

Speaker 1 was

Speaker 1 the governor, how much is the deficit? Because I only hear surplus with regard to Bill Clinton. Bro, they spent $24 billion on the homeless crisis, and it got worse.

Speaker 1 So this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 You're going to take tax money, and you're going to do what with it? In 2022, California Governor Gavin Newsom announced record-breaking budget surplus of approximately $97.5 billion,

Speaker 1 which was projected to fund new initiatives like cash payments to residents and investments in drought relief, childcare, and education. However, the state later forced a significant budget deficit.

Speaker 1 Excuse me. However, the state later faced a significant budget deficit, primarily due to overestimating revenues from a booming stock market that later declined, coupled with

Speaker 1 increased spending commitments during the surplus period.

Speaker 1 By 2024, Newsom was proposing a budget to close a multi-billion dollar deficit, which required spending cuts and other measures to balance a budget. So the surplus of $97.5 billion,

Speaker 1 it became a multi-billion dollar deficit in two years. Because of the stock market? It seems like there's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 Overestimating revenues, increased spending commitments, which is probably a big part of it. They probably spent too much money during the surplus period.

Speaker 1 What if they only

Speaker 1 tax the people that's on the Epstein list? Ah, you only get so much. Just take all their money? Yeah, if you're on the list, take all your money.

Speaker 1 They'd probably only get a few hundred billion dollars. That's the thing.
It's like at the end of the day,

Speaker 1 they're going to blow through that money. It sounds crazy, but they're going to blow through that money.
They blow through all the money. But, you know, I mean, you're right.

Speaker 1 It's not fair on paper, but it's hard to have empathy for people that have way more than the people. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.
I'm not having empathy.

Speaker 1 I'm just recognizing the law and recognizing where this goes. The problem with

Speaker 1 any decision that we make on people that have more money than us, eventually it's going to trickle down to you.

Speaker 1 Because if they could just tax these people, because there's only 200 of them, they can't really talk too much shit. You know, like, okay, but why are you doing that?

Speaker 1 Like, if they did something illegal to get that money and you're going to punish them for that, I'm all with you.

Speaker 1 But if they have the money and then it's in their savings account, and then you decide to tax the savings account because you need money to do what? More incompetent bullshit? That's the problem.

Speaker 1 Like, they're not competent.

Speaker 1 If you're going to take that 5% and you knew this is going to be what cleans up the palisades this is going to be what fixes education but it's not it's not going to do anything the homeless crisis gets worse it's bigger than ever well that's that's a whole that the homeless thing is a whole racket because i i i experienced that firsthand it's just it's just people making money that money isn't going to actually help anybody that's on the streets i mean they it kind of is but not really you know it's there's so many charities that are dirty just like people that are dirty you know like those creepy guys who pretend to be male feminists and you know they're really a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like that's that's the type of people that set up charities, but they really just want the money.

Speaker 1 Like there's people that have run charities where the charity makes the actual thing makes like six percent, ten percent of the money generated.

Speaker 1 Most of it goes to the people and they they have lavish lifestyles. They get paid tremendous salaries.
Did that ever tell you to run charities?

Speaker 1 The shelter I was living in,

Speaker 1 the guy that was running the place got he got high and then the and then the the executive had to show up and he pulled up in a fucking phantom with a fancy ass pseudonym and a nice ass watch.

Speaker 1 I was like, hold on, how the fuck is he? Because that's the first time it hit everybody like, oh, this isn't a.

Speaker 1 It's a business. Yeah, it's a business, yeah.
It's a business.

Speaker 1 They're generating income, spending the least amount possible, providing you with the least amount of care that they have to, and then pocketing the rest. And say, we got a high overhead.

Speaker 1 Very high overhead. As long as somebody dies.

Speaker 1 Because that's the thing. It's all a racket, and everyone knows it's like all wink wink.
But the rules actually applied to the actual homeless residents.

Speaker 1 But it was all nonsense. It was like, they were real strict about you making sure you sign in these papers saying you were doing these activities because they were getting grants for those things.

Speaker 1 Exactly. But I was like, well, just put my signature on there.
This is all bullshit. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think most charities are scam.

Speaker 1 Most charities have an element of scam. Yeah.
There's a lot of legitimate charities out there for sure. There's a lot of really good charitable people out there for sure.

Speaker 1 Real people that are doing charities for the right reasons. Yeah, the workers, a lot of the workers are in there for the right reasons.
Yes. But it's just like

Speaker 1 colleges, right? Where it's like it's it's just that the entity has become so bloated

Speaker 1 with because think of I think you can you look it up, Jamie, how most of like the top universities, most of their money goes towards administration.

Speaker 1 So they've just created you know, they first they hire people to collect the money and then they gotta hire more people to watch over those people and then more people to get more and then before you know it the the whole admin side is so bloated that the college gets upside down if they don't raise tuition.

Speaker 1 You know, and it just keeps going. And it's a cycle just keeps going and going and going and going.
They only have donors, which is weird.

Speaker 1 I don't understand how that works. Crazy amounts of money people donate to colleges.
Yeah, that people love their alma mater, but there must be a tax thing, too.

Speaker 1 Where does the money from most universities go? The money from most universities primarily goes towards faculty and staff salaries, student services, and campus maintenance.

Speaker 1 A significant portion is also allocated to research, academic programs, and scholarships.

Speaker 1 Universities spend on maintaining buildings and facilities, supporting student housing and dining, healthcare, technology upgrades, and activities like sports and events, government funding, tuition, investments, grants, donations, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 Eventually, administrative costs and strategic initiatives also consume parts of the budget. Overall, salaries and wages usually make up the largest expenditure category for universities.

Speaker 1 So it's salaries. Yeah.
They get a lot of money. It's salary for the for the for the admin people, the fucking coaches.

Speaker 1 Some of those coaches.

Speaker 1 Well, there's weird there's weird gigs that people have where like a a major university will pay someone like a half a million dollars a year to do stuff.

Speaker 1 Like does Elizabeth Warren get paid from Harvard still?

Speaker 1 Like you could like to like speak? Yeah, like well you know who had one of them gigs? Biden.

Speaker 1 He had one of them gigs where they gave him like a million dollars a year and he pretended he was a professor. And then

Speaker 1 he said, when I taught law at Penn State or wherever it was, he taught law. He was like professor amazing.
Yeah, yeah, but he never taught a class. Like, it's all horseshit.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was never any class. He got one of them sweet gigs where you get money from the university.
Bro, sign me up.

Speaker 1 Those are like mafia jobs. Yeah, I'll take a bullshit job in my house.

Speaker 1 Elizabeth Warren, currently United States Senator, she's on leave from her teaching position at Harvard and no longer receives a salary from the university.

Speaker 1 Her current annual salary as a senator is $174,000.

Speaker 1 She and her husband, also a Harvard professor, report additional income from book royalties and investments.

Speaker 1 Her salary for this 2010 to 2011 was reported at $429,000.

Speaker 1 This figure came under scrutiny during her first Senate campaign with critics mischaracterizing it as payment for teaching only one class.

Speaker 1 PolitiFact rated this claim half-true because the amount covered a two-year period in which she taught two classes and was on leave to advise the Obama administration and also reflected her status as a high-ranking accomplished professor and researcher.

Speaker 1 Stop mischaracterizing Elizabeth, Joe. What is her net worth?

Speaker 1 Put that in there.

Speaker 1 Net worth. That's not going to be accurate.
Let's find out. Bro, this shit's always wrong.

Speaker 1 Okay. It's not a good place to look.

Speaker 1 Because I look when the net worth shit, the internet beat,

Speaker 1 they said I'm worth $4 million. I said, where the fuck that money at?

Speaker 1 Maybe they just say you should be. I think people just be making up shit.
Well, they definitely do that. Yeah.
They definitely make up stuff, especially those websites. That's like

Speaker 1 some Indian website.

Speaker 1 Some scammer dude is just faking it. Just trying to get clicks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe they say

Speaker 1 it says an estimated. This is in Open Secrets.
Oh, in the Senate. In the Senate.
So an estimated net worth of $7,977,000

Speaker 1 in 2018.

Speaker 1 That was in 2018. She was worth that much.
Isn't there an app where you can match the stock trades of senators? Yes, the Pelosi tracker. Oh, it's just Pelosi.
It's just her? Yeah, she's the best.

Speaker 1 Oh, she's the goat. So if you just make all the same moves she make,

Speaker 1 you'll make some money. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1 Especially if you act quick. I'm sure there's a lot of people doing exactly what she does the moment she does it.
I got to get one of those guys and just be like, yeah, put it all on. So she makes...

Speaker 1 Okay, now she's worth $30 million. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
What's that? This is the Pelosi tracker. Oh.
There's

Speaker 1 14,557 copiers. I was going to say she's worth way more than 30 million, right?

Speaker 1 Isn't she worth like a couple hundred million? I think so. Yeah, she's worth a lot.
She's about to retire. Of course.
She's got $400 million, and she's a million years old. Why is she still working?

Speaker 1 It's crazy. Can you imagine working at that age, 82?

Speaker 1 I think they're addicted to the power. Power? You can't have.

Speaker 1 Let's bring up Margaret Taylor Greene's recent stock trades. Oh, she's been making some stock trades? Yeah, it follows everybody.
Bro, they all do everyone. They all do.

Speaker 1 They all do.

Speaker 1 I think that should be illegal. It should be illegal.
I don't think anyone in the federal government should be able to trade stocks.

Speaker 1 Well, especially with stuff where you have some inside knowledge about a bill that's going to be passed that would be very, very good for some corporations. Right.

Speaker 1 Or they all have to invest through, like, there's like, there's a non-partisan government agency where they can put all their money they want to invest that invests everyone's money in the same thing.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Because you start doing that, and then you got more corruption, more room for bureaucracy, more room for bullshit.
You got too much money flowing around. So they're not going to be eating.

Speaker 1 So then what do you say to the argument that they should be able to?

Speaker 1 No, you're insider trading. What if they just tell people to do it for them? How do you stop that? Well, that's what they're supposed to be doing now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, what's the end?

Speaker 1 No, that could be a problem. But at least then they could catch you and you can get in trouble.
That's how insider trading works.

Speaker 1 Like, so say if they do that and they do it, you know, through WhatsApp or something like that, and then the government gets access to your WhatsApp and then they find out you've been trading.

Speaker 1 Just seen the emails thing with the lady getting email

Speaker 1 during it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, if it was up to me, it'd be Judge Dredd shit. We're like,

Speaker 1 you get four terms, and then they take you out, and they just

Speaker 1 put you out in the desert with nothing. They take all your shit, donate it back to the people, and they just send you out.

Speaker 1 You were in charge for, you know, however long? And now get the fuck out of here. Like, there's no way you make and seventy thousand dollars a year and you're worth

Speaker 1 let's say she's worth a hundred and eighty million i've heard it's a lot more than that i've heard estimates as high as 400 million but there's no way a regular person who makes 170 000 a year ever gets there and keeps that 170 000 a year job get the fuck out of here there's not a chance in hell you keep that 170 000 a year job where you're working eight hours a day every fucking day and on the side you've racked up $400 million.

Speaker 1 Well, bitch, that's what you're good at. Imagine if you were doing that all day long while you've been working in the Senate.
You would have even more money. Are you crazy?

Speaker 1 You're wasting all your valuable time and resources doing a job that pays you $170,000 a year, but it has nothing to do with your investments.

Speaker 1 Why would you even suspect that it has anything to do with the profit that I make for my investment? Is she the richest person in Congress?

Speaker 1 She's got to be up there. She can't be.
Well, there's probably some billionaires who signed up and won and got into office somewhere. There's probably a lot of them.

Speaker 1 But they're all, the thing is, they're all richer when they leave. Well, Bloomberg, wasn't he like a multi-billionaire when he became the mayor of New York City? I don't know.
I think he was.

Speaker 1 Isn't Michael? Michael Bloomberg is crazy rich.

Speaker 1 I think he was a billionaire while he became mayor because he wanted to fix New York City because he loved it. That's the did it did it work? Well,

Speaker 1 I was just there. It was nice.

Speaker 1 Worth $109 billion estimated. Yeah.
He's worth a lot of money. Imagine.
Richest person in the world. Bro, those sandwiches, those sandwiches you put up? Ooh, Giovanni's Italian deli, bro.

Speaker 1 But you could barely get your mouth on them. They're like that big.
I want him to come out here. I want him to open up a deli out here.

Speaker 1 Are you talking to him about it? He said he would be interested in doing it. I mean, look, he's a fucking hilarious character.
He's a very funny guy. And his food is fucking sensational.

Speaker 1 And all of it gets imported from Italy. So he can import it from Italy.
All the ingredients? Yes. Everything is imported from Italy.

Speaker 1 Or the mortadella, the mozzarella, all that stuff. So he's getting it all from Italy.
All the sun-dried peppers. Bro, it's sensational.

Speaker 1 I mean, it looked good. I've still never had a chance.
Next time. I never had a chance to try it.
Next time. Next time I go to New York, you're coming with me.
All right. Deal.

Speaker 1 Bro, you're going to feel so bad the next day, though. Oh, my God.
Sunday, I was like, I'm not eating. I'm not eating anymore.
I looked like I was pregnant. My stomach was out like that far.

Speaker 1 I ate so much. Yeah.
He gave me a four-foot-long sandwich, dude.

Speaker 1 it was four feet long i just kept stuffing it in my fat face yeah i was getting i ate meatballs i ate four or five cannolis i ate so much i should not have gone that deep what did they cater to the event well because he just why do they drop off giant sandwiches he just does it for me does like i've blown him up online i've blown him up on the podcast his his deli's killing it that's a good guy he's a great guy and i found them just randomly gnr deli in the bronx that's how i found them after you left what do you mean after you left new York.

Speaker 1 This is like. Oh, yeah, this is recently.
This is like within a couple of years.

Speaker 1 Because most of the time I eat really clean. And most of the time it's just meat.
But when I go off,

Speaker 1 I like to really go off. I've seen you literally like eat like a hostage.
Like somebody that just got released.

Speaker 1 It's a problem.

Speaker 1 I'm a real glutton, man.

Speaker 1 I eat massive. It's not just eating food that I shouldn't be eating.
I'll eat a massive amount of it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some good pasta. It's hard to stop.
I can't can't stop. It's hard to stop.
Oh, yeah. Well, so I ate at this place Teresi with my wife on Friday night.
That was incredible. It was Italian food.

Speaker 1 I ate way too much there.

Speaker 1 It was insensational. And then the next day, Giovanni shows up with these two giant four-foot sandwiches.
But

Speaker 1 my rule is when I'm in New York, all bets are off. All that diet shit's out the window.

Speaker 1 I'm eating for fun. I'm just eating for fun when I'm in New York.
My greedy ass. I ate it.
I ate it Daidouille. How you say it? Oh, Doua.

Speaker 1 At a Dai Dewey on Sunday and then I and then I did sushi about scratch last night. Oh my gosh.
Shout out to Jesse Griffiths. Jesse's the head chef and the owner of Daidouay.
He's the man. Brilliant.

Speaker 1 I stumbled onto that place and I thought I was putting you on. You're like, oh, I know that guy.
Yeah, I found out about that place years ago because he was on my friend Stephen Rennell's podcast.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh, that guy is so interesting.

Speaker 1 And so I actually had, I don't know if I had him on my podcast before I ate at his restaurant or after I don't remember but then we went to his restaurant like during the pandemic when we first moved here and it was like you had to be spread out we actually ate outside the first time we did it because we couldn't eat inside yet bro and you know you know what I because I love because you know it's great restaurants all over Austin and I and I know I know it's gonna be good whenever the staff is generally happy to be there like you go and I do it everyone fucking loves it there especially like if you see old people working there

Speaker 1 yeah you see somebody somebody that like you know that's pushing 50 and they still love and they happy and gingerly that it's you know it's gonna be good yeah dai due is sensational yeah the thing and the thing about them is everything is from texas there's nothing in there you can't like you can't even get like a diet coke in there

Speaker 1 they don't have anything that ain't from texas

Speaker 1 nothing so good too yeah and he always has like exotic shit on the menu yeah the menu is always changing but you can always get those

Speaker 1 pork chops. Oh, yes, pork chops are wild boys, pork chops.
Sensational. Yeah, everything's sensational.
Jesse's like one of the best chefs in the country.

Speaker 1 I've been there enough times now where I know like anything you order is going to be good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We are spoiled here, bro.
Yeah, big time. There's so much good food in Texas, and specifically in Austin.

Speaker 1 At the medium to high level. The fast food is trash.
Like, if you

Speaker 1 seriously, like, if you, if you're, if it's not a Texas fast food place,

Speaker 1 it's such a phenomenon to me. Like, what's trash? Like, everything that's not a Texas place.
Like, Dan's is great. Whataburger's great, but like,

Speaker 1 but like, Chick-fil-A is not as good. McDonald's is not as good.
Chick-fil-A is not as good as good. Wendy's is terrible.
I had Chick-fil-A, like, a month ago. It was amazing.
No, it's okay,

Speaker 1 but it's... It's not up to.
It's different.

Speaker 1 The service is not as good. I mean, Chick-fil-A tastes the same everywhere.
You go inside? Yeah. You know, I'm going inside or

Speaker 1 a drive-through thing, man. You want to eat in your car like a pig, like a disgusting person who hates himself.

Speaker 1 But Chick-fil-A might be somewhat of an exception, but like even In-N-Out, even In-N-Out here is not as good.

Speaker 1 Were you telling me that Chick-fil-A has like aluminum in it? Were you one of those?

Speaker 1 That's probably Kurt Mesker. It was Tony, I think.
Who's Tony? Yeah, it was Tony. Yeah, he was saying Chick-fil-A has aluminum in it or something.
What? What does it have in it?

Speaker 1 What is the controversial ingredient? I think it's the buns or something, but it's aluminum. It's in a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 Aluminum, what, though? It's not just aluminum.

Speaker 1 it's not it's like uh it's foil they grind up foil which makes it thicker but sometimes

Speaker 1 certain names sound scary right right right but it's just it's something normal right like vitamin c sounds scary exorbic acid like oh no sodium aluminum phosphate yeah is that a preservative

Speaker 1 man fuck preservatives that's what's wrong with us Everything is preserving your gut biome. It's all getting in there.
All this bacteria.

Speaker 1 Sodium, aluminum, phosphate, a food additive. Yeah, I don't think that's bad.

Speaker 1 But also, also,

Speaker 1 I've probably eaten so much of whatever that is. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 When you think about food like that, you're just not supposed to eat it every day. That's all it is.
It's really good. If you just want to eat it and enjoy it.

Speaker 1 Like, you ever have Canes, those chicken fingers? Yeah, yeah, I've heard it. Those are good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kane's. It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Just don't do it every day. Just every now and again.
But again, even Kanes,

Speaker 1 even Kane's is better in other places. What?

Speaker 1 Are you a Keynes connoisseur? No, no, but I'm just, I've eaten, I'm a fast food, I've eaten a lot of fast food. I've heard that In-N-Out Here is not as good.
In and out here is not as good. Really?

Speaker 1 Wendy's is not as good. Does the In-N-Out here have the same...
KFC is bad. Does it in-night here have the same sort of menu where you can get off-menu stuff?

Speaker 1 No, it's the same everything, except the service sucks, and the food is not as, it's just not as consistent. You know what I mean? Okay, like because I've never before been

Speaker 1 before here, I've never been to it, because you know, like Chick-fil-A and In-N-Out, that's a certain standard, especially if you're coming from LA. But you said McDonald's, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the McDonald's here is trash. It's a food distribution issue.
Is it? Yeah. This happened once when McDonald's actually bought like my favorite pizza place from Ohio.

Speaker 1 They couldn't expand it, right? Because you couldn't get the same ingredients you get in Ohio and Florida.

Speaker 1 So you don't like your quality. But doesn't McDonald's like send all the ingredients to all their places? But that means you don't have one giant McDonald's farm.
You don't? No. No.

Speaker 1 I mean, we wouldn't know where that is, you know? Oh, my God. You imagine the slaughter going on at the McDonald's farm? How many fucking cows are losing their life? I get it.
You know,

Speaker 1 but if I'm going to eat at McDonald's in any city,

Speaker 1 you can find the good McDonald's. Like, you just Google the good McDonald's in Detroit, whatever.
But here there aren't any.

Speaker 1 They're all terrible. Interesting.
Yeah. And so it's a food distribution thing? I'm pretty sure.
How are they getting bad beef in Texas? It's not bad beef, but it's just not the same.

Speaker 1 It's not consistent. It's not the exact same.
So the process might not have the same thing. Because the thing is, it's not great food.
You eat a McDonald's because you know what you're going to get.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 It tastes just like it does every other time you've had it. But it's not because it's the best.

Speaker 1 So when you settle for McDonald's, right, and you just, you know, it's like... You have a standard.
Yeah, it's like calling your ex. You know, it's like you settle for it and it's not as good.

Speaker 1 You just,

Speaker 1 no, it's like it's got to taste like I'm expecting. Got it.
You know, but it's just

Speaker 1 off.

Speaker 1 Have you ever seen some people argue that restaurants are just who can cook the best Cisco food? So they're all getting it from the same kind of distributor. Well, I think most of them are.
Really?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that's really dwindling it down to the base of like, that's not really what everything's happening.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you see like Southwest egg rolls, like it's probably a 50% chance that that came from a Cisco freezer. You know that Mexican place you turned me on to went under.
I know.

Speaker 1 That was a bummer. I can't believe that.
Bolivar, is that what it's called? No, no, that's not what it's called. Bolivars are a place it's still.

Speaker 1 I can't remember what it was called, man, but it was incredible. It was so good.
Yeah, maybe they just moved. Maybe I need to look them up because I forget the name of it.
I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 I think they went under because they spent a lot of money on that place. Remember the artwork in that place? Yeah.
Well, the location was not.

Speaker 1 Because they weren't near any other restaurants. It wasn't terrible, though.
It wasn't hard to find. Yeah, but it's still off the path of like anywhere.

Speaker 1 Like, if you had to go over there, there was no other reason to go over there unless you lived over there. But you go over there for a restaurant.

Speaker 1 Like it seemed like they were packed when I was there. That's what was confusing.
They were. They were, but

Speaker 1 towards the end, it started being less and less.

Speaker 1 That happens, man. People get excited about a new place, and it's popping at first, and then it just sort of dies off.
Yeah. But

Speaker 1 that's the first time I've seen a great restaurant go under

Speaker 1 that I like. I know.
And quick. Yeah.
It was probably a year. Yeah.
It's a fucking tough business, man. That's a tough business.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that was started by a guy that knew what he was doing.

Speaker 1 That's how tough it is. Right.
Don't you know the guy?

Speaker 1 I met him. No.
Okay, yeah. I met him there.

Speaker 1 You know what I wish they would bring here is a bizarre meet. Oh, yeah.
I mean, it's probably,

Speaker 1 he probably would go to like a bigger city than Austin, maybe.

Speaker 1 Well, he's got one in Chicago. He just opened up one in New York.
Oh, really? Yeah, we ate the one in Chicago. It was great.
Of course. And the new one in Vegas.
He's got a new new one in Vegas.

Speaker 1 He moved spots. Oh, okay, to a different casino? Yeah, same deal, though.
Oh, sensational. Gotta be sensational.
Off the chart. Oh, bro.
And they always look out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Jose Andres came on the podcast, the head chef. Oh, word? He was great.
Such a nice guy, man. That guy genuine, like, you want to talk about real charity?

Speaker 1 That guy genuinely goes to like war-torn regions, anywhere there's some sort of a natural disaster, and he brings trucks and they start cooking and they feed people for free.

Speaker 1 They feed people that level of food, too. Yes.
His food.

Speaker 1 His food. He loves helping people, like genuinely loves helping people and loves cooking for people.

Speaker 1 And he went to Poland and was catching the Ukrainian refugees when they were leaving Ukraine. And these people were starving.
He set up shop and started feeding them.

Speaker 1 That's how good a guy that is. Yeah, and he's a master.
Master chef. His restaurants are incredible.
He came in here. He was making food for us while we're doing the podcast.
Wow, like he had a hot.

Speaker 1 He had a piece of ham. He was cutting off ham and shit.
Oh, he had like that fancy ham. Yeah.
Hamon. Hamon.
This thin slice. Do you remember that? It comes with like a span.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. He gave me a whole leg.
I took it home with me. Yeah, it'll last forever.
Yeah, it lasts forever. It's cured.
Yeah. Bro, it's so good.
It's so good.

Speaker 1 Good food's going to be the downfall of me. Yeah, but you could have both.
Yeah, you can have both. You just gotta, you gotta have, like, you ever see The Rock's cheat meals?

Speaker 1 Yeah. On Sundays, The Rock will have these legendary cheat meals.
I don't know if he still does it, but he would post them on Instagram. It's like a stack of pancakes, giant chocolate chip cookies.

Speaker 1 The Rock shrunk down now, like John said.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think he got too big because he did that movie,

Speaker 1 the movie about Mark Kerr, the smashing machine.

Speaker 1 By the way, it didn't get the love it deserves. It's a really good movie.
It's not just an MMA movie. It's a very realistic MMA movie, too.
It's like really, like, The Rock is Mark Kerr.

Speaker 1 They even gave him like a forehead thing, like a prosthesis, so he looked more like a Neanderthal, like Mark Kerr does. I thought he was going to get a nomination for that.

Speaker 1 He gained 30 pounds of muscle, wore 22 prosthetics, and trained in MA camp to physically transform for his role as Mark Kerr. Look what he looked like.
Scroll up so you can see what he looked like.

Speaker 1 Look what he looked like there. That's Mark.
That's the actual Mark, and that's the rock next to him. But that's the rock, obviously, playing Mark when he was younger.
Oh, is Mark Kerr still alive?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, he did my podcast recently. Oh.

Speaker 1 yeah, man, that Smashing Machine documentary is crazy. I thought The Rock was going to get a nominated for that.
He should have. He should have.

Speaker 1 He did a fantastic job, but nobody watched it. It's one of those just slipped under.
If it comes out to streaming, I can't recommend it enough.

Speaker 1 It's a really good movie, and it's not just an MMA movie. It's like there's moments in that movie where you get anxiety.
You're like, oh my God, don't do that. Jesus Christ, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 It's one of those movies. It's crazy, but he does a phenomenal job.
Phenomenal. He hasn't not been nominated yet.
They haven't come out yet. Oh, okay.
Oh, well, he should be for that.

Speaker 1 I don't think he will get, you know, it's hard. The Academy and a martial arts movie, and it's like, you know, it's for meatheads.
Jimmy, I'm surprised you ain't got no sponsorships with a search app.

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 What you mean? You're literally known for looking shit up. Well, they should call me.

Speaker 1 Holla at your boy.

Speaker 1 Let's wrap this bitch up. Let's get it.
So tell everybody, name your special, where they can get it.

Speaker 1 Special is live from the mothership you can see it right now streaming on netflix you can also watch the don't tell thing just came out and you can come see me on tour brian simpsoncomedy.com and my podcast bs with brian simpson also on youtube and all the other streaming platforms and i will see you in a few hours we're gonna have some fun

Speaker 1 tonight let's go all right goodbye everybody