Camp Swamp Road Ep. 2: A Game of Telephone

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This series contains descriptions of violence and strong language, including unbleeped curse words.

Please be advised.

Previously, on Camp Swamp Road, I've got pictures of him aiming the gun at us, everything.

He's about to put the gun out again.

Sir, this guy aims that gun at me, we're gonna have to shoot him.

There is a guy that is waving a gun in front of me, trying to shoot at my car, car and the other one's beside us.

He's all over the road.

And I look at my cousin, I'm saying,

either Scott's been murdered or he's murdered somebody.

What's going on?

And no one will tell us.

He shot at us.

Partner, we're good.

You're good.

Don't worry about it.

Things happen, you know.

I don't understand this one.

It's the day after the shooting.

The lead investigator assigned to the Scott Spivey case is Detective Alan Jones.

This is for the audio recording

for the phone call with Mr.

Byron and Deborah Spivey, the parents of the deceit Scott Spivey.

Detective Jones records himself on his body cam.

In the video, he looks tired.

He had stayed up late.

At 2:10 a.m., Jones had filed his initial report, which said that the shooting on Camp Swamp Road appeared to be justified.

It's now around 2 in the afternoon, and Jones is reaching out to the Spivey family for the first time.

Scott Spivey's mother answers the phone.

Hello.

Is this Miss Deborah Spivey?

Yes.

Miss Spivey, I'm Madeline Jones.

I'm a detective of Lorry County Police.

Yes, sir.

Hold on just a moment.

People hold on just a moment.

Okay.

It's a detective.

You want to go back there so you can hear?

Hold on.

I'm just going to get my door.

It's your speaker.

Okay.

Where's Jennifer?

Deborah calls for her daughter, Jennifer Foley.

We were sitting in the back bedroom.

We can take all the chairs back there, and we're sitting around, and we're all, he's on speakerphone, and we're all sitting in the room.

There's probably 10 of us back there

since the early morning.

Family members have been trickling into this Bivey house: aunts, uncles, cousins, waiting to hear more about what had happened to Scott.

Well, there's, I still have a couple of, I guess, unanswered questions here and there.

Uh, and actually, I was hoping maybe talking with you guys may clear some of that up for me.

Okay, we hope we hope we can.

It started off immediately

with Scott going through a life crisis.

Just try to understand.

Scott, did he have any kind of medical issues or anything of that nature?

No, not that we're aware of, no.

Was Scott doing drugs?

Was Scott this?

Was Scott that?

And I'm like.

Pump the brakes and tell us what happened first.

Has Scott ever had any kind of issues with any

drug abuse issues or anything of that nature?

No, not really.

As a teenager, taught and

all.

Like, we got no clue what's happened.

And when those questions started coming in, we were like,

this is not...

This is not normal questioning.

This is

Scott's the criminal.

We need to record this.

Jennifer's husband takes out his phone and he starts recording.

I will say this much.

Scott, by his nature, will not start something.

Now, he may not back down from it, but he is not one to start something.

Detective Jones tells the family that they have witnesses who saw Scott Spivey waving his gun on Highway 9.

Scott pointed a gun at other people.

Other people

pointing it directly at him or

out the wind at the man behind him.

There you go.

Yes, ma'am.

He pointed, we have two other witnesses in different, two other, different vehicles that say he pointed a gun at them.

That just does not sound like him at all.

I could see him if he was frightened pointing the gun out and down behind him.

I just,

I don't see it.

I just do not.

This is not how the Spabies expected this call to go.

They thought Detective Jones might say he was sorry for their loss.

He didn't.

They thought he was starting an investigation into who killed Scott.

He wasn't.

And these crosswires would only continue.

It wouldn't be until months later that the Spabbies would figure out why.

I'm Valerie Borline, and this is Camp Swamp Road, a series from the journal.

Coming up, episode two:

A Game of Telephone.

Scott Spivey was killed on his way home.

If he'd kept going on Camp Swamp Road, he would have made it to his trailer.

Spivey lived just across the state line in North Carolina.

A few months ago, I made that same drive with my my producer, Rachel Humphreys.

We're coming up, we're getting ready to cross underneath Highway 9, actually,

the main thoroughfare just north of the line.

And

hold on, and now I'm looking at the GPS.

Highway 9's got to go across.

The shooting took place in South Carolina.

Had it happened across the state line, things might have been different.

North Carolina has a standard ground law.

But multiple lawyers and legislators there told me they would not have considered this a standard ground case.

And driving around, I realized how close Spivey was to that state line.

About two miles.

It's very hard to know when you've crossed it.

Are we still on the North Carolina side of the line?

It's so porous, it's so hard to tell.

Scott Spivey's trailer sits next to his parents' house, where he and Jennifer grew up.

As we pull in, I notice an old barn that's collapsed in on itself.

The family has been farming in this area for over 100 years.

The Spivey house is small, red brick, one story, set back from the road on a freshly mowed lawn.

As we walk through the front door, Scott Spivey's mom, Deborah, and his sister, Jennifer, are there to greet us.

Good morning.

How are you?

I'm good, I'm good.

How are y'all?

Let us come back.

It's been almost two years since Scott Spivey died, but there are traces of him everywhere.

In the living room, there's a huge portrait of him over the mantle.

The first thing I noticed is his piercing blue eyes.

One family keepsake is a video that Scott Spivey made for his father, Byron Dale Spivey.

It was recorded a couple months before he was killed.

Happy Father's Day.

I love my dad.

because he knew how important it was to do the right thing, even when it wasn't doing the right thing.

And at times we don't understand, but as we get older, we realize where we come from.

And I appreciate my dad for all the things he did for me.

Thank you Father's Day.

Scott Spibey worked as an insurance adjuster.

He would travel around the country in the wake of natural disasters to assess the damage done to people's houses.

He moved home the year before he died, just before his 32nd birthday.

He wanted to be close to his family, especially Jennifer.

What was y'all's relationship like when you were little?

Um,

he did anything I asked him to do.

Dressing up, playing dress up, playing anything.

I mean, be like, come have a tea party with me.

And he'd be like, okay.

I mean, I could get him to do anything I wanted.

Like a lot of kids who grew up out in the country, Jennifer and Scott Spivey were each other's first playmates.

They were siblings, but they were also friends.

They went to church and youth group together.

And in high school, when Jennifer made homecoming court, she asked her brother to be her escort.

Who else would I want to walk me out there on the football field than my little brother, you know?

He's my biggest cheerleader other than my little brother, so I'm going to let him, you know, be there for me.

So.

Scott Spivey's mom, Deborah, has a calming air about her.

She's a retired special education teacher.

Deborah was the last member of the family to see her son alive.

Tell me about September 9th.

How did the day start for you?

It was a normal Saturday.

I'm doing things around the house that you would do.

I walked outside to get something out of the car and he was leaving and I waved at him and

he waved and smiled.

I wish I had gone over and banged on the window and knowing what I know and just pulled him out and not let him go anywhere.

On the night of the shooting, Deborah was driving back from dinner with her husband when when she got the call from Jennifer.

Have you heard from Scott?

Do you know what's going on with Scott?

And my heart just about skipped a beat and my throat

began to feel like it was closing up.

It was dark when Deborah arrived at Camp Swamp Road.

All the cops would tell her family was that Scott's body had been road raging and was dead.

That is something that you can't believe that would happen because we've never experienced anything remotely close to that in a family or an extended family.

So

it's just difficult to even explain.

It's like the bottom of your whole being, your soul, everything just kind of drops out because

here you are, you are a wife, a mom of two kids,

and now you have one,

and you don't know what to do with what used to be.

Horry County Police said that Scott Spivey had played a major role in his own death.

He'd been drinking before he got behind the wheel.

And for Jennifer, it was hard to hear that he'd allegedly pointed a gun at drivers on Highway 9.

She and her brother both owned guns, but Jennifer didn't know how to reconcile what the police told her with how they'd been raised.

So my dad's a veteran.

We grew up respecting firearms.

They were in our home.

Is it something that we went and had Sunday shootout, like shoots in the backyard?

No, they were used for hunting, and that was the only purpose after

Vietnam.

My dad said, I don't.

And honestly, other people took Scott hunting because my dad was like, I my dad was the same after Vietnam.

Yeah.

And not even like daddy loved squirrel hunting when he was a boy, but

not after he came back.

It just

took something out out of him.

Guns are used for one purpose,

is to protect yourself at home, or it is to go hunting to provide food for your table.

Scott has tons of hunting rifles and things like that.

He owned one

handgun.

One handgun.

Scott's baby was killed just before 6 p.m.

on a Saturday.

By Sunday morning, photos of his last moments are being texted around in group chats among people in the community.

Friends start forwarding the photos to the family.

One shows Scott Spivey in his black truck, holding a gun out the window.

And then we come through the process.

The Spiveys meet to talk about the photos.

Jennifer records it.

Well, you see

the pictures that we sent to you.

And I'm sorry, who took that picture?

That's the driver.

That's the shooters.

That's the shooters.

That's the shooters.

They took those pictures.

The family is shocked to discover that the source of the photos is one of Scott Spivey's killers.

Who posted those pictures?

This is the shooter sharing it.

The shooter sharing it with who?

No, it's not on social media.

These are things that he's sending his friends.

People keep sending Jennifer photos.

She's hearing rumors that an image is being shared of her brother's dead body.

And Jennifer also hears that the person sharing the photos is Weldon Boyd, but his involvement in her brother's death wasn't confirmed until three days after the shooting on Facebook.

Boyd posted, quote, The events that unfolded were truly tragic and have left a lasting impact on me.

He then addressed the Spavies directly, saying,

My thoughts and prayers are with you.

I hope you find the strength and peace you need during this incredibly difficult time.

Boyd thanked the witnesses and his supporters.

He ended the post by thanking Ori Police for their professionalism and empathy.

All of this, Boyd thanking the police, the photos being texted around, they raised a question for Jennifer.

Did the police ever take the shooter's phones as evidence?

I do have one question for you, and I'm not, I'm not trying to, please don't take this the wrong way.

Four days after the shooting, Jennifer and her mom called Detective Jones to ask about Bradley Williams and Weldon Boyd's phones.

Why?

We can't get Scott's phone back because it's evidence, and I understand that.

But the two individuals that were let go with their phones and they walked out

and they were texting people at midnight that night.

And they took pictures and they have shared those pictures of the scene with individuals since then.

Why were their phones not taken and why have they?

And why haven't they been taken?

They have evidential pictures on them.

them the one answer to that ma'am is

you know we're being cooperative as a matter of fact there's an appointment set up for them to come in and bring us their phone so they can be down with

how long before that

why was that done immediately before they had chances to to destroy destroying the phone itself

in that call detective jones mentioned that boyd and williams were going to hand over their phones that day But that didn't actually happen for another two months.

South Carolina's standard ground law was protecting Weldon Boyd and Bradley Williams, and it was preventing the Spivey family from accessing information.

In Standard Ground cases, the killer is considered the victim, making the dead person the offender.

In these cases, the dead person's loved ones aren't granted the usual victim's rights, like briefings from investigators and access to police files.

Essentially, for the loved ones left behind, the investigation is a black box.

The Spiveys don't know what's going on because they aren't entitled to know what's going on.

But they did get some information from the autopsy on Scott Spivey's body.

Spivey was shot twice.

He was killed by a bullet to the back.

After the autopsy, The family scheduled the funeral for Saturday, September 16th, a week after the shooting.

The Spiveys had wanted wanted an open casket, but the body was too damaged.

Not just from the bullets and the autopsy, but from the way the police handled Spivey's remains.

The right side of his body was so bruised, and that was the side that was the viewing side in the casket.

We just, we had to have a closed casket.

And Scott was such a handsome man.

On the night of the shooting, the Horry County Police Department towed Scott Spivey's body in his own truck from Camp Swamp Road to the police impound lot, 25 miles.

It was like he was not treated as a human being,

as something

inanimate.

Yes, it was a dead body, but it was the body of my son.

You would expect more

compassion,

more reverence

for a body

than he received.

To me, it almost bordered on desecration.

Horry County Police said they towed Scott Spivey's body in his truck because heavy rain was in the forecast, which might have compromised evidence.

It's been more than a week since the shooting, and what Jennifer is hearing is more rumors from other people than information from the police.

Jennifer says that when she got a hold of the initial police report, it didn't contain much detail.

Jennifer calls Detective Jones again.

I guess it's put doubt in my mind.

Not saying that y'all aren't doing a good job and you're doing all you can.

I just you have to understand it from my point of view, I hope.

I'm not.

I do.

I get it.

Like I said, I understand that, and that's the reason, you know,

I've been the way I have with you guys, trying to give you what what I had

versus bad information.

Because I'm sure you guys have gotten a lot of bad information, but that's part of my job.

I get all that bad information, too, that I have to sort through and figure out what of it makes sense and what of it is just bad information and complete and utter hearsay.

Yes, sir.

I mean, it's like a game of telephone.

Eventually, the Spivey's game of telephone with Detective Jones does get somewhere.

Even though they're not entitled to much, Jones invites the family to come to the police station so that they can hear a key piece of evidence.

911, I'll kiss your emergency.

Hey, I've got a guy pointing a gun at me driving.

We're armed as well.

He keeps throwing the gun in our faces.

This is the first time the Spiveys hear Weldon Boyd's 911 call, but instead of clarifying things, it makes them question the shooter's claims of self-defense.

The spiveys thought standard ground was an extension of the Castle Doctrine, a centuries-old legal principle that allows a person to use lethal force against an attacker in their own home.

The way we understand standard ground is like if I'm at a stop sign, if I'm at a red light, if I'm somewhere that I have, I'm in my car minding my business and someone intrudes on my space.

If you're in your home and a intruder comes in,

you can do what, you can take the force that you need to in order to keep your home safe.

I get that.

Listen, this dude shoots at me.

We're going to put him down.

I mean, this dude's insane.

Are you following him or is he following you?

He's been following us.

Now we're behind him.

But if I get into my car, which is an extension of my home, I can chase them down until they turn around and say, what the heck?

They stopping.

He's stopping.

Hey, we're about to have a fucking shootout, dude.

This dude's got a gun.

He's got a fucking gun.

And then I can shoot and kill him and say I'm in fear for my life as long as I don't get out of my vehicle.

That's a, there's a flaw there.

There's a huge flaw there.

And then when you you start putting these pieces together, like

something's just not.

Something's not right.

Like I'm trying to ask questions, to get to the root.

What started this?

Where did it start?

And you still can't tell me any of that.

You know, I was told one time there was only three sides to the story.

His, hers, and actually what happened.

And in this case, there's only two sides because there's their side and then there is what happened because Scott's not here to tell his side.

Yes, ma'am.

And that's all I'll say.

And I'm sorry if

you feel like if we have been a little bit pushy, but I guess...

We've just been trying to advocate him because we don't know his side and we want his side to be told whatever it is, if it's good or bad.

When I say that, we were dismissed at every turn.

That's what I'm talking about.

Jennifer wanted to know her brother's side of the story, but she wasn't going to get that from the police.

So she began her own investigation.

That's next.

In the mid-2000s, TV shows about true crime forensics were having a moment, and Jennifer Foley loved one in particular.

CSI Miami was, everyone was watching it.

You know, Horatio with the glasses, taking the glasses off at the beginning.

I

am going to get to the truth.

I was like, you know, that looks, that's just so interesting.

So you watched it every week?

Yeah.

Jennifer was inspired.

In college, she studied biology and criminal justice.

She got an internship at the North Carolina State Crime Lab.

There, Jennifer got to actually work in forensics, examining carpet fibers, fingerprint analysis, the whole nine yards.

What was satisfying to you about that type of work?

Most of the time when you get those cases that come through, those are the voiceless.

Like the evidence is the only thing left to speak and

you have to make sense of that and you have to

put those physical pieces together to create a story that that person's not here to tell.

In the weeks after the shooting, Jennifer began putting together the physical pieces of her brother's story.

She scoured social media for leads.

She documented evidence inside her brother's truck.

And she began to make a timeline of everything that happened on the night of the shooting.

Witnesses said that the shooting on Camp Swamp Road had begun with the dispute nine miles south on Highway 9.

So Jennifer made that drive herself over and over to try to make some sense of it.

Somewhere in here is where this thing gets kicked off at, and they say that Scott comes the right so that earlier this year, I went along with her.

And on the right is Belle and Bell.

It's a

car dealership.

And there's a huge red bell.

That bell is about two stories tall.

Jennifer approached businesses that her brother had passed on his final drive.

She asked for their security camera footage.

So we have Scott on camera coming here at 548

on the dot.

Jennifer was able to pinpoint when Boyd's white truck and her brother's black truck first pulled onto Highway 9.

To the left of us is where the tractor supply,

where Boyd's truck is leaving from.

Jennifer lined up the photos taken by Boyd and Williams with locations along the drive.

So right here we know there's a picture taken right here because there's a snag of trees right here on the right side.

Oh yeah, some like dead trees.

Some dead trees.

So somewhere in here maybe is where

they're saying that Weldon gets run off the road through a brake check, Scott brake checks and he goes off into the median.

Jennifer matched the location of the photos with the time they were taken in order to figure out how fast both trucks were going.

Right through here, when we're dropping pins of GPS pictures from picture one to picture two,

they're going about 80 miles an hour right here.

Through here.

Through here, 80, 85.

And I'm going to 45.

They're flying.

They're flying.

I've never really thought about just how long it takes to go nine miles down the highway, but on this drive, it hit me.

This wasn't a sudden event.

There was time to think.

As we drive, Jennifer points out all the places that someone could pull off the road.

Driveways, parking lots, intersections.

To Jennifer, each one was an opportunity for Weldon Boyd to end the altercation.

She logged every spot.

According to her count, there were 96.

By the time of the shooting, Jennifer had been a biology teacher for 12 years.

She worked at the same high school that she and her brother went to.

After Scott Spivey was killed, Jennifer took three months off work to focus on the case.

The other teachers donated their sick days so that she wouldn't miss a paycheck.

The day after Christmas break ended, I went into my principal's office like, I'm not, I can't do this.

I've been here

in body.

My mind's not here.

But by the end of the year, She knew she needed to spend all her time on the investigation.

I feel like I've been a very very effective teacher for the last 12 years,

but I don't feel like I'm an effective teacher right now because

I'm distracted.

And that if I don't go fight for him now, it will be no sense in fighting for him later.

While Jennifer was working as an amateur detective, there was someone else looking into her brother's case, the state attorney general's office.

In the week after the shooting, the attorney general had been asked to review the Horry County police file and determine whether any charges should be brought against Boyd and Williams.

The review process took months, and the Spavies were hoping that the AG's office would bring criminal charges.

In early April 2024, the Attorney General's office came to a decision, and the Spavies got to hear it in person.

Jennifer records the meeting.

I thank you for y'all coming up as quickly as you did, especially on short notice.

I wasn't sure

how that would

work out this morning.

I know y'all have been waiting for what the AG's office was, what decision they were going to make.

Jennifer and her parents, Byron Dale and Deborah Spivey, sit at a conference room table.

The lieutenant delivers the message.

They felt that there was insufficient evidence to merit a criminal prosecution.

Insufficient evidence to merit a criminal prosecution.

That's all.

The Attorney General's letter was just a few lines long.

There would be no criminal charges in the killing of Scott Spivey.

At this point in the meeting, Scott Spivey's father speaks up.

I haven't said a word.

Go ahead, sir.

Nope, absolutely.

As far as I'm concerned, that young man murdered my son, and I mean flat-out murdered.

When you go down a major highway

on a weekend and you travel 9.75 miles chasing him, shooting at him, and the other young man she was talking about, he was shooting too.

Yes, sir.

That's true.

All I know is the other guy said

he'd said before this he was going to take him out.

The spivies back their chairs away.

The meeting is over.

Well, I thank you for your time.

And

anyway, thank you all for the information.

You just presented it to us.

I don't know what your feelings are about this or about anybody in this situation.

But this stuff of what you can go down the road and shoot somebody dead.

That ain't right.

I'm going to go get time on my mother.

It's still it, Daddy.

It's still it.

All right, that's good.

Thank y'all.

Appreciate it.

We've always said that Scott played a part.

We've never denied that.

Obviously, whatever happened to father up the road, there was a handgun involved.

Like, I don't know.

I just don't.

And had we gone, had he gone another mile,

this would be a completely different story.

North Carolina does not,

there's a very fine line

there

as far as

what's considered justifiable and what's not.

Excessive force versus

redneck justice.

At a later meeting, the Spiveys would get more information.

Deputy Attorney General Heather Weiss defended her office's decision, arguing that the case did meet meet the criteria for a standard ground defense.

She cited witness statements and Boyd's 911 call as proof that Spivey was threatening people on Highway 9.

She said that when Spivey got out of his truck, he became the aggressor.

Weldon Boyd and Bradley Williams stayed in their truck.

According to Weiss, once Spivey raised his gun at Borden Williams,

they had a right to fire because they were in fear for their lives.

The Attorney General's decision was a huge blow, but the Spiveys had one final option, suing the shooters in civil court.

That was the only

way we were left

to get any kind of justice for Scott

was to have to file a civil suit.

My involvement is I am a civil lawyer.

At the end of the day, the only thing that I can do is try to get a jury to award money damages.

Mark Tinsley is a personal injury lawyer.

He made a name for himself when he led a wrongful death claim against Alex Murdoch, a wealthy South Carolina lawyer.

That story got a lot of national attention after Murdoch was later convicted for the murder of his wife and son.

Jennifer thought getting Mark to take her case was a long shot, but she gave his office a call.

And to her surprise, Mark called her back.

I said, you know, the problem that we have is

it's law in South Carolina.

They're saying it stands your ground, but

how can that be stand your ground when you're behind somebody?

And what did Mark say about that?

Mark was like, you can't, that's not stand your ground.

I was like, yeah, we're saying the same thing, but that ain't what the law's saying.

I didn't see how this could be.

I didn't see how you could stand your ground while you're chasing someone else's.

No one has ever challenged a Sand Your Ground case in South Carolina civil court.

That's according to the court office and a half dozen of the state's best-known attorneys.

This would be a very tough case to win.

But Jennifer walked Mark through everything she had discovered, and he was impressed.

She is dogged in her pursuit of the what happened.

She is a master of all the information and sorting through the information and finding it and going back and pulling it out.

And so I'm very impressed with Jennifer.

Mark agreed to represent Jennifer.

In June 2024, he filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Weldon Boyd and Bradley Williams.

If he and Jennifer could prove this was not a standard ground case, the Spiveys could be entitled to damages.

Boyd and Williams have denied any wrongdoing.

For months, Jennifer had been fighting with the Horry County County Police Department for information.

But because it was considered a standard ground case, her brother wasn't a victim and the family wasn't entitled to much.

However, after the lawsuit was filed, Weldon Boyd's lawyer pressured the Horry County Police Department to turn over their evidence file in order to help Boyd's defense.

Because of that move, Jennifer's lawyers now had access to reams of evidence connected to her brother's death.

There was so much there that it was taking a long time for Mark Tinsley's office to actually go through all the files.

So Jennifer decided to do it herself.

And then I was like, can I have, can I see what y'all have?

And because they were saying, have you seen this?

I'm like, no.

They're like, oh, well, let me share that with you.

I mean, you should be able to have access to that, you know?

And then that's when

the digging started.

Finally.

Jennifer would get to see the evidence for herself.

On February 7th, 2025, a Friday, she she drove to her lawyer's office to pick up a flash drive containing the police file.

She had no idea what to expect.

Jennifer took it home to look through over the weekend.

It took a day for them to download on the flash drive.

I mean, thousands of files.

Jennifer isn't someone with a lot of time on her hands.

She has two young kids, and that weekend her family had plans to watch the Super Bowl.

But Jennifer really wanted to see what was in those files.

She told her husband that she needed some time alone.

And he was like, I'll take the babies with me and we'll go to mama's and we'll watch the Super Bowl.

And they sit over there from like 3:30 until like 11:30 that night.

Jennifer sits down at the kitchen table.

She opens her laptop and starts clicking through the police files.

I didn't know

what to look at first, so I just opened the first folder.

and there they were

what

the 90 phone calls

the first file I click on

is a

it says it's an audio file and I open it up

and I hear Terry Richardson's voice

Jennifer is very confused She knows who Terry Richardson is.

Richardson is a reporter with the Myrtle Beach Sun News.

And I'm like, I know that voice.

Why is she in

this dump?

Hi, Weldon.

This is Terry Richardson calling with the Sun News.

How are you today?

I'm all right.

How are you doing?

And I realized that she's, this is a phone call that she's called, she's talking to Weldon and asking Weldon to give comment.

And I'm like,

that's weird.

And then the next one.

And then the next one was a 911 call.

Hey, I've got a guy pointing a gun at me driving.

I'm well-armed as well.

He keeps.

And I'm like, that doesn't sound like what i heard in

the horry county version there's no dispatch there's no noise in the dispatch room like

there's there's

why the f

couldn't you just left him alone

why couldn't we fucking leave him alone

there's a lot there that i couldn't hear before

And I just, I mean, at that point, you can't stop looking.

I chased him.

Oh, I was on his ass.

And his truck couldn't outrun my truck.

And he knew it.

So, yeah, he was terrified.

Next time on Camp Swamp Road, Weldon Boyd's phone calls.

Bradler, I know it's fucked up to say, but I had a fucking blast.

I know it's fucked up, but I'm a fucked up person.

Camp Swamp Road is part of the journal, which is a co-production of Spotify and the Wall Street Journal.

I'm Valerie Borline.

Our producer is Heather Rogers.

Our senior producer is Rachel Humphreys.

Editing by Colin McNulty.

Fact-checking by Nicole Pasulka.

Music, sound design, and mixing by Nathan Singapock.

Additional music by Peter Leonard.

Our theme music is by So Wiley, remixed for the series by Nathan Singapock.

Special thanks to Catherine Brewer, Miguel Bustillo, Sam Enriquez, Pia Gaccari, Carlos Garcia, Matt Kuong, Jennifer Levitz, Jessica Mendoza, Bruce Orwal, Filana Patterson, Sarah Platt, and Cam Pa.

Thanks for listening.

Episode three will be released next Sunday.